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On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote:

> Any chance that I can go to Web pages from Pine??

Just cut'n'paste the address from Pine to your browser window.

Works for me.

-- 
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>> "PK" == Peter Karlsson <dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se> writes:

PK> On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote:
>> Any chance that I can go to Web pages from Pine??
PK> Just cut'n'paste the address from Pine to your browser window.
PK> Works for me.

This is about the LaMEsT thing one could come up with... If you had at 
least had the decency to propose piping the message through a perl
script that extracts the url and fires up lynx in a Screen
console. But this is ... pathetic.

Robin - happily clicking away at highlighted urls.

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
DOS: n., A small annoying boot virus that causes random spontaneous
system crashes, usually just before saving a massive project. Easily
cured by UNIX. See also MS-DOS, IBM-DOS, DR-DOS.  (David Vicker)

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To whom it may concearn:
  I was on my computer when a bug report came on.  I was wondering wht it
was.  Could it be that our computer has been freezing up?  Please let me
know. 
     Thank you for your time nd patience.
      Gary Lynch 12 yrs. old


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>> "L" == Lynch  <glynch@suffolk.lib.ny.us> writes:

L> To whom it may concearn: I was on my computer when a bug report
L> came on.  I was wondering wht it was.  Could it be that our
L> computer has been freezing up?

Could you submit the report, please? It's kinda hard to *guess* what
kind of bug you encountered from 5.000 miles away ;-)

L> Gary Lynch 12 yrs. old

A 12-year-old on a Sun? Geez...

Cheers,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
"Even more amazing was the realization that God has Internet access. I
wonder if He has a full newsfeed?"                      (Matt Welsh)

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hello  ,,
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On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Henrik Edlund wrote:

> Anyone have any info on when Pine 4 is due?

It's been *due* for some time now... :)

When it will actually arrive is not yet clear,
but it is progressing, and hopefully won't be *too* much longer.

-teg


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On 1 Nov 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:

> >> "PK" == Peter Karlsson <dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se> writes:
> 
> PK> On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote:
> >> Any chance that I can go to Web pages from Pine??
> PK> Just cut'n'paste the address from Pine to your browser window.
> PK> Works for me.
> 
> This is about the LaMEsT thing one could come up with... If you had at 
> least had the decency to propose piping the message through a perl
> script that extracts the url and fires up lynx in a Screen
> console. But this is ... pathetic.

Well... I don't do much work at a terminal where I can run X, but usually
from a win95 or MacOS machine with several telnet sessions open and a
browser or two or three.

On the win95 box, you've got the option of passing the URLs to lynx using
a filter, or cut-n-paste it to your browser. (yuck)

On the unix box, similar concept of being able to pass to lynx using
filter, but with the ability to use a graphical browser if in X- and to
use the patches posted recently that make clicking URLs in pine a bit
easier. (haven't used 'em myself)

On the MacOS machine, command-click the url, and it'll be passed to the
current browser. The system'll fire up your default browser if none is
currently running. If you're running OS 8, try a Control-click on the
address to pop up a menu of actions for the URL in question. Internet
Config is a wonderful tidbit, as is IAD. :)

Haven't seen anything for win95 to make arbitrary URLs clickable.

Anyone?

-jeff

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>> "J" == Jeff  <jeff@tcnet.org> writes:
J> On 1 Nov 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:
>> >> "PK" == Peter Karlsson <dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se> writes:
PK> On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote:

>> >> Any chance that I can go to Web pages from Pine??
PK> Just cut'n'paste the address from Pine to your browser window.
>> This is about the LaMEsT thing one could come up with... [...]
J> Well... I don't do much work at a terminal where I can run X, but
J> usually from a win95 or MacOS machine with several telnet sessions
J> open and a browser or two or three.

I never said "X", did I? I said "screen", which is a tool that lets
you open virtual consoles in *1* telnet session. Fine thing to
have... ;-)
[...]
<OT>
J> On the MacOS machine, command-click the url, and it'll be passed to the
J> current browser. The system'll fire up your default browser if none is
J> currently running. If you're running OS 8, try a Control-click on the
J> address to pop up a menu of actions for the URL in question. Internet
J> Config is a wonderful tidbit, as is IAD. :)

BTW, KDE offers the same stuff with its mailer and newsreader. The KDE 
help browser also works as a WWW browser. KDE's kinda neat...
<http://www.kde.org>
</OT>

J> Haven't seen anything for win95 to make arbitrary URLs clickable.
J> Anyone?

Ever tried fdisk? Should work, I guess...

Cheers,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
"They don't let you teach there, do they?"
Annelise Anderson in comp.mail.pine

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On 1 Nov 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:

> This is about the LaMEsT thing one could come up with... 

...and the simplest. Doesn't require you to learn shell programming, or
anything...

> Robin - happily clicking away at highlighted urls.

Good for you. Personally I prefer not to click, although I have to do that
for cut'n'paste since gpm seems to require a mouse ;)

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Hello.  When I am using pine, and I compose a message, if I want to send
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On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Peter Karlsson wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote:
> 
> > Any chance that I can go to Web pages from Pine??
> 
> Just cut'n'paste the address from Pine to your browser window.
> 

But this sounds like you're using PC-Pine, or something that is not
recognizable to me.

Commands can't be pasted into a CLI.  Need typing.

> Works for me.
> 
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On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Peter Karlsson wrote:

> On 1 Nov 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:
> 
> > This is about the LaMEsT thing one could come up with... 
> 
> ...and the simplest. Doesn't require you to learn shell programming, or
> anything...

But, ok, maybe someone can teach me shell programming.  You're right, I'm
a simpleton.

I tried out a script someone sent me, but it said Permission denied, or
Access denied.  

Pine gives me a whole bunch of options when Piping, but then, all of them
gave me the same result I believe.

> 
> > Robin - happily clicking away at highlighted urls.
> 
> Good for you. Personally I prefer not to click, although I have to do that
> for cut'n'paste since gpm seems to require a mouse ;)
> 
> -- 
> \\//
> Peter - my other .signature has a cool remark
> 
> 



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On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote:

> But this sounds like you're using PC-Pine, or something that is not
> recognizable to me.

I'm using Pine under Linux, and I use gpm to cut'n'paste between virtual
consoles.

> Commands can't be pasted into a CLI.  Need typing.

With gpm they can. I don't know if gpm works on anything other than Linux,
though.

-- 
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>> "WFY" == William F Youssef <wfy200@is6.nyu.edu> writes:

Hi, William,

WFY> When I am using pine, and I compose a message, if I want to send it
WFY> to more than one address, I press Ctrl-T to go to the address book.
WFY> If I press S to select another address, the address does not appear
WFY> in the To: or CC: boxes.  It is either blank, or just appears as a
WFY> comma.  Even if I do the List command in the address book, and
WFY> select one (or more) addresses to compose to, they do not appear on
WFY> my letters.  If there is a way to solve this problem, please let me
WFY> know.

That's not the wanted behaviour, allright. Try this: while reading a
mail, hit "T" to Take the address. This will give a an address that is
supposed to work. Then compose a new message, using this address. If
it works, the other addresses are broken. If not, your addressbook is
broken. You might then want to submit parts of it to the Pine
developers or someone else who knows the syntax. The file is usually
called ~/.addressbook.

WFY> Also, I would like to know if there is a way to have a BCC (Blind
WFY> Carbon Copy) command or box with Pine, when sending a message.

That's an easy one (and a FAQ, too, you might want to read the docs...):
While composing a message, say "R" for Rich headers. You can customize
the default headers Pine presents you with in M(ain) S(etup) C(onfig).

Cheers,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
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hello.
     i just downloaded powwow program. but i can't get it run like it
should. it keeps show winsock 11004 error on it. help if you can and
tell me what i can down winsock soft waer.thanks......winnie


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I had asked a question earlier as to how I could access a folder which had
locked itself due to the fact that I had placed too many articles in it?
I opened the folder into my pico editor and was deleting articles which
were not all that important in order to attempt to decrease the size of
the folder so that it would open in my email.
When I originally began this my editor did not seem to corrupt the folder
at all. It would simply delete the articles leaving the folder/articles
intact such that I could access each article individually. Now when I open
a folder into my pico and then access this same folder through my email I
find that the folder now has become one huge file .. therefore no longer
allowing me to access each article individually. This is not acceptable
due to the fact that I need to forward only certain files. 
Can this be rectified?

Tom watchman@nucleus.com
  


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On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, winnie chilton wrote:

>      i just downloaded powwow program. but i can't get it run like it
> should. it keeps show winsock 11004 error on it. help if you can and
> tell me what i can down winsock soft waer.thanks......winnie

Hummm....  "powwow" is that a new spelling for "pine"?

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On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, Tom Hennessy wrote:

> I had asked a question earlier as to how I could access a folder which had
> locked itself due to the fact that I had placed too many articles in it?
> I opened the folder into my pico editor and was deleting articles which
> were not all that important in order to attempt to decrease the size of
> the folder so that it would open in my email.
> When I originally began this my editor did not seem to corrupt the folder
> at all. It would simply delete the articles leaving the folder/articles
> intact such that I could access each article individually. Now when I open
> a folder into my pico and then access this same folder through my email I
> find that the folder now has become one huge file .. therefore no longer
> allowing me to access each article individually. This is not acceptable
> due to the fact that I need to forward only certain files. 
> Can this be rectified?

Yes, it *may* be possible to rectify the situation.  However, it may be
difficult for you to do it.  

The folders used by a mail program are in a specific format such that the
program can properly display the contents.  Prior to the MIME standards
the format was a bit easier to understand than it is now.  So, without
specific knowledge of the format you can end up in the situation you now
find yourself.

Since you didn't know better, you messed things up.  Un-messing things
will require you gain that knowledge.

Regards,
Ed

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                                   Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
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I hope you can explain to me why everytime i send an e-mail to someone
they get my address being "accounts payable" and THEn my e-mail address?
My e-mail address is lt@interport.net and that is all that should
appear..is all this mail ALSO going into some mailbox called "accounts
payable?" please let me know! thank you, Lois Tanner


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On 29 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:

> DG> Then I switched to qmail as my MTA and started using subaddressing
> DG> heavily.  I'm not even using procmail at the moment.  (You can do
> DG> subaddressing with sendmail+procmail by enabling procmail as the
> DG> local delivery agent... but I didn't find it as nice to use.)
> 
> Yup. But that's not an end-user thing, is it?

Yes, the whole point of subaddressing is that users can create their own
addresses.  All addresses of the form dgaudet-whateverfoo@arctic.org are
controlled by the user dgaudet.  (For procmail/sendmail it would be
dgaudet+whatever@arctic.org).  If I want to create a mailing list using
ezmlm it requires a single command (and includes automatic bounce handling,
archiving, and secure sub/unsub). 

The same support is used to put entire virtual domains under the control
of ordinary users.  My system has a dozen virtual email domains under
control of users and I (root) don't have to do a thing when they need new
aliases, or mailing lists.

> >> >> Different sender addresses, signatures, etc
> >> Fine - will it be included? Pine isn't gpl'ed. I know and respect
> >> the reasons, but it's... not very satisfactory?
> DG> I don't understand what you're asking.  Will that patch be
> DG> included in pine?  No, I doubt it.  It uses a qmail feature to
> DG> set the envelope from, because I couldn't be bothered to do it
> DG> in a way that works with sendmail.  But isn't this the point of
> DG> having the source code?
> 
> I think it is. Can I use the modified source in a commercial
> environment?  What if the UoW decides to change their licence?  This
> is purely hypothetical, and I'm not imposing they would, but that's a
> "business" decision - if you spent a lot of time (=money) to set up a
> site "for pine".

Read <ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/softwarelaw.html>, you can modify
source code and use it, regardless of what the shrinkwrap says, even in
the backwater USA, folks in Europe are even more free.  Even so, the pine
license currently allows local modification explicitly, and allows for
distribution of patches.  In order to seriously change things they'd
have to stop distributing source code.  At which point I would find
the mailer with the most features I need, and add the rest that it
needs and leave pine behind.

> DG> Furthermore, GPL is not a holy grail that all software must meet.
> DG> I'm one of the Apache devlopers.  Apache is not GPL'd.  GPL has
> DG> various limitations that can actually hinder its use; or hinder
> DG> the involvement of some developers.  Apache is available under a
> DG> variant of the Berkeley license.
> 
> Which is different from the pine licence. Correct me if I'm wrong, but 
> I may distribute modified versions of Apache, may I not? Anyway,
> that's not the point (my point, that is) here. As I see it (and I
> don't subscribe to RSM's communists drivel), the GPL and similarly
> oriented licences promote the development of software. IMHO, the pine
> licence does it not in the same way. But that, again, is not the point 
> here. Let's bury the licence discussion, shall we?

Yup you can distribute Apache under the terms of its license, which
minimally means you must state:

    This product includes software developed by the Apache Group
    for use in the Apache HTTP server project (http://www.apache.org/).

In various places.

> [...]
> >> BTW, did you guys have a hard time quoting this mail? Pico must die
> >> RSN... ]:-> Hehehe...
> DG> I've never had pico flake out on me.  I'm using vi at the moment
> DG> however, which I usually do when I need to actually edit.  pico is
> DG> great for quick answers.  Anything more than a half-dozen lines
> DG> and I hit ^_.
> 
> Exquise me - but what's the advantage of pico over vi? It's not faster,
> and that's about the only thing I could ever think of if I were to say
> something positive about pico. You simply *cannot* yank the quotes I use
> properly with pico. Mine and some less fancy ones. I remember clearly
> cursing heavily when several people on one list I subscribed to as a
> newbie were using supercite. Pine needs a better editor, that's all I'm
> saying. I don't expect bells and whistles (actually, I quite like the
> way quotes from different posters get different colours here), but
> pine's editor should provide more in the yanking area than it
> currently does.

Did you enable compose-cut-from-cursor ?  If I want to I can edit your
quotes and citations easily enough in pico, but not as easy as in vi.

pico is way faster if I'm typing a reply in which I do no quoting.  I
don't have to wait for vi to be forked... frequently I can be done the
reply in less time if I use pico.

In practice when I'm using email in the work place I find that it is best
to reply to messages, leaving the previous message quoted but untouched
and placing my response at the top.  Workplace email sometimes starts
off between a few people and is then forwarded on.  Having the full
thread in each message makes this a lot easier to do.

>From a stylistic point of view I find messages of that form far easier
to understand.  I rarely write messages such as this one which include
quotes broken up with my comments.  I also rarely read messages with
nested quotes like this ... which may explain why I have no problem
reading high volume mailing lists with pine ;)  You see, I don't
miss threading because complicated threads usually indicate in-depth
religious or political discussion which is frequently off-topic on the
almost entirely technical mailing lists I frequent... but that, as the
rest of this, is just my opinion, YMMV :)

Dean


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> The folders used by a mail program are in a specific format such that the
> program can properly display the contents.  Prior to the MIME standards
> the format was a bit easier to understand than it is now.  So, without
> specific knowledge of the format you can end up in the situation you now
> find yourself.
> 
The part that I cannot understand is how three days ago the pico editor
did not compromise/change the format of the folder.. IE did not change the
folder in the least. It left the folder as is.. the articles could still
be accessed as single files/articles. Today the pico editor changes the
folder to one huge file..???
Would something have been changed at my server??

Tom watchman@nucleus.com
 


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Tom,

> The part that I cannot understand is how three days ago the pico editor
> did not compromise/change the format of the folder.. IE did not change the
> folder in the least. It left the folder as is.. the articles could still
> be accessed as single files/articles. Today the pico editor changes the
> folder to one huge file..???
> Would something have been changed at my server??

I suspect that it was not pico which did this....but an inadvertent act performed 
by the human using pico.

Remember pico is a text editor.  If you edit a file which actually a mailbox and 
you change the contents then there is a chance the file will become corrupted and 
look to the mail agent as one big message.  

I think that is what you are saying, anyway.  Meaning, you looked at the folder 
with an email UA, like pine, and saw many email messages.  You then looked at it 
with pico, maybe did some editing, and when you used the mail UA again you had 
only one *very* long email with the contents of all emails inside of it.

If that is the case...then the file is corrupted and needs to be fixed. (If 
possible.)

You can try fixing it yourself, if you knew the format.  Or you may be able to get 
help from someone at your helpdesk....if you helpdesk *is* a helpdesk.  

Regards,
Ed


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Abidjan, le 03 novembre 1997




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	Je voudrais par la pr=E9sente lettre vous adresser un message afin que
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	J'ai d=E9velopper une page Web et je voudrais faire son h=E9bergement su=
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votre aide me sera d'un apport appr=E9ciable. Je voudrais que vous
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Dear .....Pine-info...office,
I am a  Ph D student of physical chemistry and want to get a free copy of your 
Pine E-mail software to use it for my correspondation.
Please tell me how to do it or where can I find and take it from  INTERNET.
Yours sincerely I. Zhivkov.

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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Machavariani Tamara wrote:

With what?

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This should help....


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This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to
aid readers in finding information about Pine.  Before sending questions 
to the mailing list, please consult these resources:

The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive
help.  Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, 
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       http://www.washington.edu/pine/

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     - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can
       also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection
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using, Pine.  Because system functions and configuration can vary from
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> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 09:46:35 -0600
> From: winnie chilton <winnie@nightowl.net>
> Subject: showing winsock errer......
> 
>      i just downloaded powwow program. but i can't get it run like it
> should. it keeps show winsock 11004 error on it. help if you can and
> tell me what i can down winsock soft waer.thanks......winnie
> 

Directly from www.sockets.com:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WSANO_DATA (11004) Valid name, no data record of requested type 

Berkeley description: The requested name is valid, but does not have an
Internet IP address at the name server. This is not a temporary error.
This means another type of request to the name server will result in an
answer. 

WinSock description: Same as Berkeley for host resolution. For protocol
and services resolution, the name or number was
not found in the respective database. 

User suggestions: see WSAHOST_NOT_FOUND for details. 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Synopsis: either you are sending to a non-existant host, or you are using
an existing host as an SMTP that is not set up to process mail. (IE using
gorn.indy.net instead of mail.indy.net as my SMTP would result in a 11004
(I think) even though gorn is an existing machine.

Pat



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You may be running into a bug. If your address book entries don't have
nicknames, then Ctrl-T won't work correctly. This will be fixed in
Pine4.00. You can work around the problem by giving nicknames to address
book entries, even if you don't intend to use those nicknames.

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Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle


On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, William F Youssef wrote:

> Hello.  When I am using pine, and I compose a message, if I want to send
> it to more than one address, I press Ctrl-T to go to the address book.  If
> I press S to select another address, the address does not appear in the
> To: or CC: boxes.  It is either blank, or just appears as a comma.  Even
> if I do the List command in the address book, and select one (or more)
> addresses to compose to, they do not appear on my letters.  If there is a
> way to solve this problem, please let me know.
> 
> Also, I would like to know if there is a way to have a BCC (Blind Carbon
> Copy) command or box with Pine, when sending a message.  Thank you very
> much for all of your help.
> 
> William F. Youssef
> wfy200@is6.nyu.edu
> 
> 


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On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote:

> Any chance that I can go to Web pages from Pine??

Pine 4 will allow you to fire up your web browser on an embedded URL
just like viewing an attachment....


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I tried to use the latest and greatest version of Pine (3.96) 
together with smail 3.2.0.97 under Linux. When compiled "out of
the box", Linux Pine uses SMTP to deliver mail. The problem is
that Pine sends a "HELO localhost" to the smail process, and
smail does not like that at all, but insists on a real, fully
qualified host name, for security reasons, I presume.

Has anybody run into this problem before, andw what would be the
best way to solve it?

Johan Myreen
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Anything in particular?  If we guess right do we get a prize?



Christ G. Kallas
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>From: Tom Hennessy <watchman@nucleus.com>
>Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 23:41:18 -0700 (MST)

>The part that I cannot understand is how three days ago the pico editor
>did not compromise/change the format of the folder.. IE did not change the
>folder in the least. It left the folder as is.. the articles could still
>be accessed as single files/articles. Today the pico editor changes the
>folder to one huge file..???

>Would something have been changed at my server??

Yes; you corrupted a message boundary line. Your folders are kept in mailbox
format as one large file each. When a message is added, a line in the following
format is prepended to the message headers:

>From ahk@chinet.chinet.com Mon Nov  3 12:33:56 1997

except for the ">" character. When pine sees a blank line followed by the
string "From " (the space character is significant), it checks to see if a new
message follows by looking for the boundary line. So, find the line you
corrupted, and fix the message boundary, and you will once again see individual
messages in the reader.

A mailbox of this type is often called "Berkeley-format" or just "unix-style".
It seems not to have an official name. There are other mailbox styles, however.


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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, David L Miller wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote:
> 
> > Any chance that I can go to Web pages from Pine??
> 
> Pine 4 will allow you to fire up your web browser on an embedded URL
> just like viewing an attachment....
> 
> 
> -- 
> David L. Miller <dlm@cac.washington.edu> | The gods too are fond of a joke.
> Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | -- Aristotle
> Box 354841, University of Washington     |
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> 

Is pine 4 finally out, and if not, do you have any idea when it will be ?

Malcolm
(malcolm@pnp.co.za)



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I was wondering if there was a way to block messages coming from a certain
sender? And if there is, could you please tell me how to do it?

Alisa


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With unix pine how can I tell pine that I want to use a different user
id to login into the imap server than my login name one the unix system.

Thanks Marty

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Change, for example, the entry from:

	{imap.your.site}INBOX

to:

	{imap.your.site/user=yourimapusername}INBOX

Cheers,

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On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Everett, Marty wrote:

> With unix pine how can I tell pine that I want to use a different user
> id to login into the imap server than my login name one the unix system.
> 
> Thanks Marty
> 


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So How did you find this info? I did look at the doc and the pine web
page? Would just like to know so I can read this set of docs also.

Thanks Marty Everett

	----------
	From:  Mike Brudenell[SMTP:pmb1@york.ac.uk]
	Sent:  Tuesday, November 04, 1997 12:06 PM
	To:  Pine Discussion Forum
	Subject:  Re: imap user id

	Change, for example, the entry from:

		{imap.your.site}INBOX

	to:

		{imap.your.site/user=yourimapusername}INBOX

	Cheers,

	-- 
	Mike Brudenell
<pmb1@york.ac.uk>

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	On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Everett, Marty wrote:

	> With unix pine how can I tell pine that I want to use a
different user
	> id to login into the imap server than my login name one the
unix system.
	> 
	> Thanks Marty
	> 

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This works great!!!!!! but I still have a long time out before it comes
back and asked me for a password for the imapuserid password. Can I pass
the password in some way or make it just prompt at start up and not have
to wait for timeout.

Thanks Marty Everett

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	From:  Mike Brudenell[SMTP:pmb1@york.ac.uk]
	Sent:  Tuesday, November 04, 1997 12:06 PM
	To:  Pine Discussion Forum
	Subject:  Re: imap user id

	Change, for example, the entry from:

		{imap.your.site}INBOX

	to:

		{imap.your.site/user=yourimapusername}INBOX

	Cheers,

	-- 
	Mike Brudenell
<pmb1@york.ac.uk>

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	On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Everett, Marty wrote:

	> With unix pine how can I tell pine that I want to use a
different user
	> id to login into the imap server than my login name one the
unix system.
	> 
	> Thanks Marty
	> 

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>> "EM" == Everett, Marty <MEverett@IKON.com> writes:

EM> So How did you find this info? I did look at the doc and the pine
EM> web page? Would just like to know so I can read this set of docs
EM> also.

I got it in:

<http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/user.guide/node21.html>
"Syntax for IMAP Folders and Collections"

so it's on the pine site, too.

Cheers,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
                             Linux is obsolete
                             (Andrew Tanenbaum)

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I found it but it does not seem to be complete. For example I know that
the {hostname/pop3}INBOX works for to getting pop mail but it is not in
the doc. Also how would you pass for exampe
{hostname/pop3/user=popuserid}INBOX.

Thanks Marty

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	From:  Robin S. Socha[SMTP:r.socha@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de]
	Sent:  Tuesday, November 04, 1997 2:29 PM
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	Subject:  Re: imap user id

	>> "EM" == Everett, Marty <MEverett@IKON.com> writes:

	EM> So How did you find this info? I did look at the doc and the
pine
	EM> web page? Would just like to know so I can read this set of
docs
	EM> also.

	I got it in:

	<http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/user.guide/node21.html>
	"Syntax for IMAP Folders and Collections"

	so it's on the pine site, too.

	Cheers,
	Robin

	-- 
	Robin S. Socha M.A.
	                             Linux is obsolete
	                             (Andrew Tanenbaum)

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Dear friends:

I am trying to set up Pine v3.96, but I have not achieved. Is it
possible using Pine in stand-alone? I use a dial-up connection to
server.

Attached, I send you debug file. You will see I have tried out almost
all of possible choices about inbox-path. Always I am asked for giving a
remote inbox folder; so I understand may be Pine is not running in
stand-alone mode.

I'm running Windows 95.

Un abrazo,

Javier Villate
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Bilbo - Euskadi


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On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, alisa arlene anderson wrote:

> I was wondering if there was a way to block messages coming from a certain
> sender? And if there is, could you please tell me how to do it?
> 

I do not believe there is any way within pine to do this as pine gives you
whatever is in your mailbox(s).  This is in the realm of mail filtering,
which is not too hard to do, depending upon your host machine.  If you are
on a PC, then I don't know how you do it.  

If you are on a Unix host then there are a couple of ways.  I would
recommend 'procmail'.  procmail allows you to filter mail in all sorts of
ways, most usually it is used to put your incoming mail in different
folders by subject.  You would then enable the 'folder-collections'
feature of pine to access these separately.  However, once you can filter
mail on an arbitrary header string, you can do almost anything you want,
like deleting mail from a specific address or domain, etc.  Many people
use this to filter out spam.  One reference to this is
http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/.

Hope this helps...

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Steve Witt                                              (714) 730-3245
PairGain Technologies, Inc.


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In Pine for unix how can I set the from-address that pine generates to
be different from the login name on the unix system I log into. 

Thanks Marty

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Hi, I have accounts on more than one network.  I was wondering if there
was an option in the setup or config. of pine that would enable pine to
automatically forward email to another one of my accounts. could you tell
me the general setup for doing such a thing...if pine doesn't have this
kind of thing ...it should.

thanks,


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Howard Jung                       
University of Toronto                        "It's all good..."    
Engineering 9T9                   
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hi,

look, you dont actually need pine to do that, you just create a file named
.forward on your home dir and inside it you just put the email address you
want your mail forwarded.
hope it'll help

regards,

alex

On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Howard Jung wrote:

> Hi, I have accounts on more than one network.  I was wondering if there
> was an option in the setup or config. of pine that would enable pine to
> automatically forward email to another one of my accounts. could you tell
> me the general setup for doing such a thing...if pine doesn't have this
> kind of thing ...it should.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Howard Jung                       
> University of Toronto                        "It's all good..."    
> Engineering 9T9                   
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 


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>> "EM" == Everett, Marty <MEverett@IKON.com> writes:

EM> In Pine for unix how can I set the from-address that pine generates
EM> to be different from the login name on the unix system I log into.

It's a secret we must not tell anyone. If we told you, we'd have to
shoot you. There is only one way to do what you want: take a dead
chicken, wave it over your monitor three times at midnight. Then read
the secrets of pine, available from the UoW.

Next one, please...

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
main(){printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);}

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>> "HJ" == Howard Jung <jung@ecf.toronto.edu> writes:

HJ> Hi, I have accounts on more than one network.  I was wondering if
HJ> there was an option in the setup or config. of pine that would
HJ> enable pine to automatically forward email to another one of my
HJ> accounts. could you tell me the general setup for doing such a
HJ> thing...if pine doesn't have this kind of thing ...it should.

No, it shouldn't. Say "man vacation". If your system doesn't have this 
kind of thing ...it should.

Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Windows 95,
Windows NT 4.0, or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform.

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please let me know what is home directory and how to download files and
open the same in the concerned application at the earliest.

thanks
k.kashinathan



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On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Everett, Marty wrote:

> So How did you find this info? I did look at the doc and the pine web
> page? Would just like to know so I can read this set of docs also.

I think I originally learned of it either from this list, or else from
looking at the source code for the mtest program (part of the Pine
distribution used for testing IMAP connections).

It's mentioned briefly in the Release Notes screen for Pine 3.95 (which
we're still using for technical reasons); I don't know about 3.96.

Ideally, of course, a description of the "/user=username" flag should be
added to the information about valid folder names in the help for the
Folder List screen, along with....


On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Everett, Marty wrote:

> This works great!!!!!! but I still have a long time out before it comes
> back and asked me for a password for the imapuserid password. Can I pass
> the password in some way or make it just prompt at start up and not have
> to wait for timeout.

...this one too.

When you use UNIX Pine to access a folder on an IMAP server specified
along these lines:

	{imap.your.site}INBOX		(with or without /user= etc)

Pine first tries to establish a "pre-authenticated connection" to the IMAP
server by giving the command:

	rsh imap.your.site /etc/rimapd

Assuming you have rsh access to your IMAP server machine *and* its
administrator has set up /etc/rimapd as a symbolic link to the real IMAP
server program this will get your connection established without your
needing to type in a username and password.  (The rsh mechanism handles
all the authentication information.)

However if you don't have rsh access, or the symbolic link hasn't been set
up, this can slow down the opening of the connection.  Indeed depending on
circumstances there may be a significant (several seconds) delay before
rsh times out.  Pine then falls back to connecting directly to the IMAP
server's port (143), but then requires you to type in your username and
password.

If you *know* that you don't have rsh access and/or the symbolic link
hasn't been set up then you can persuade Pine to not bother trying the
pre-authenticated connection attempt using rsh.  This can be done in
either of two ways:

Method 1 - Affects connections to *all* IMAP servers
----------------------------------------------------
Edit your $HOME/.pinerc file with your favourite editor (sorry, but
certainly as of version 3.95 this can't be done from within Pine; it
should really have been set up as a global setting by the administrator in
the systemwide Pine configuration file).  Look for the string
"rsh-open-timeout" and set this to 0 (zero).  As its comment says, this
turns off the rsh attempt, and affects all IMAP servers.

Method 2 - Affects *selected* IMAP servers
------------------------------------------
Change the host specification from:
	{imap.your.site}
to:
	{imap.your.site:143}
If your site runs the IMAP service on some port other than 143 use that
port number instead.  Because you are explicitly giving a port number, and
this is meaningless to rsh, Pine interprets this as an instruction not to
bother trying the rsh mechanism when accessing _this_ folder/collection of
folders.  Note that if you go this route you will probably have to make
the change in more then one place in the Setup Configuration screen, eg:
	inbox-path
	folder-collections
	incoming-folders	(if you are using this)


On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Everett, Marty wrote:

> I found it but it does not seem to be complete. For example I know that
> the {hostname/pop3}INBOX works for to getting pop mail but it is not in
> the doc. Also how would you pass for exampe
> {hostname/pop3/user=popuserid}INBOX.

I don't know for certain as we don't use POP3 here.  However I would
expect you to just compbine the flags as per your suggestion.

Cheers,

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On 5 Nov 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:

> >> "HJ" == Howard Jung <jung@ecf.toronto.edu> writes:
> 
> HJ> Hi, I have accounts on more than one network.  I was wondering if
> HJ> there was an option in the setup or config. of pine that would
> HJ> enable pine to automatically forward email to another one of my
> HJ> accounts. could you tell me the general setup for doing such a
> HJ> thing...if pine doesn't have this kind of thing ...it should.
> 
> No, it shouldn't. Say "man vacation". If your system doesn't have this 
> kind of thing ...it should.

Hummm.....doesn't he really want to say either "man forward" or on some
systems, "man sendmail"?

Ed

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On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, GEEPEE SHIPPING AGENCIES PVT. LTD. wrote:

> please let me know what is home directory and how to download files and
> open the same in the concerned application at the earliest.

The "home directory" is the directory you are placed in when you first
logon to a system.

As for downloading and uploading files....well that generally depends on
the capabilities of your system.  I believe you are in Mumbai and
connecting via VSNL.  You should call their help desk....

Ed

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On 5 Nov 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:

> >> "EM" == Everett, Marty <MEverett@IKON.com> writes:
> 
> EM> In Pine for unix how can I set the from-address that pine generates
> EM> to be different from the login name on the unix system I log into.
> 
> It's a secret we must not tell anyone. If we told you, we'd have to
> shoot you. There is only one way to do what you want: take a dead
> chicken, wave it over your monitor three times at midnight. Then read
> the secrets of pine, available from the UoW.

There you go again, Robin.  Leaving out important details.  If memory
serves me it must be a "dead *virgin* chicken".

Ed

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>> "EMG" == Edward M Greshko <Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com> writes:
EMG> On 5 Nov 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:
>> >> "EM" == Everett, Marty <MEverett@IKON.com> writes:
EM> In Pine for unix how can I set the from-address that pine
EM> generates to be different from the login name on the unix system I
EM> log into.
>> It's a secret we must not tell anyone. If we told you, we'd have to
>> shoot you. There is only one way to do what you want: take a dead
>> chicken, wave it over your monitor three times at midnight. Then
>> read the secrets of pine, available from the UoW.

EMG> There you go again, Robin.  Leaving out important details.  If
EMG> memory serves me it must be a "dead *virgin* chicken".

Nonsense. Here's the jargon files' entry:

wave a dead chicken /v./ 
To perform a ritual in the direction of crashed software or hardware
that one believes to be futile but is nevertheless necessary so that
others are satisfied that an appropriate degree of effort has been
expended. "I'll wave a dead chicken over the source code, but I really
think we've run into an OS bug." Compare voodoo programming, rain
dance.

Robin

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free*".' (Linus Torvalds)

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I want to make more room to the file since it says "error in
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I am a Mac user and always encounter problems with BinHex. I download
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When I get a BinHex file with the .exe extension, what should I do?

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>> "AL" == Ashley Louis <ash@vbresources.com> writes:

AL> I am a Mac user and always encounter problems with BinHex. I
AL> download ..exe files from the Net to run under SoftWindows on my
AL> Mac but can never successfully use BinHex or Stuffit or anything
AL> to get it to work right.

And what made you think that the mailing list for the Mail User Agent
"Pine" would be the appropriate place to ask this question.

AL> When I get a BinHex file with the .exe extension, what should I
AL> do?

	<http://www.dejanews.com>

Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
"All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory..."
(Larry Wall)

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I am not able to receive email from 2 people in Canada, Tennessee,as well 
as people located in my home state of Florida. They can all respond
to my email however they are unable to send a new email. Are you able to
help with this problem?

Sincerely,

Dale Davis
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I want to email a paper to someone, but I have it on disk.
Someone told me that I might be able to save it as a text 
file but I do not know how to do that. How can I transfer a file from a
disk to pine in order for me to email it?

encarnacion gutierrez 




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On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote:

>>   
> > It's a secret we must not tell anyone. If we told you, we'd have to
> > shoot you. There is only one way to do what you want: take a dead
> > chicken, wave it over your monitor three times at midnight. Then read
> > the secrets of pine, available from the UoW.
> 
> There you go again, Robin.  Leaving out important details.  If memory
> serves me it must be a "dead *virgin* chicken".

Actually according to the "Druids Guide to Computing" the chicken must be
sacrificed over the monitor [For further info consult Chapter 7: Animal
Sacrifice and Pine Mail].  

Brian Nisonger
"Druid" Computer Consultant
AXBEN@UAA.ALASKA.EDU
"Daddy why doesnt my magnet pick up theses floppy disks'


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Hello my name is Sharmia McCloud and while I was checking my inbox
messages I decided to check my sent-mail folder and nothing was there but
2 messages that I sent today.  I had important documents that I had sent.
Is there anyway to retrive this folder because I do not know what truly
happened to it is lost forever. Please respond as soon as possible.  I
will supply any information needed to aid you in helping me.

Sharmia McCloud
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On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Sharmia N McCloud wrote:

> Hello my name is Sharmia McCloud and while I was checking my inbox
> messages I decided to check my sent-mail folder and nothing was there but
> 2 messages that I sent today.  I had important documents that I had sent.
> Is there anyway to retrive this folder because I do not know what truly
> happened to it is lost forever. Please respond as soon as possible.  I
> will supply any information needed to aid you in helping me.

I'm sure there are *lots* of folks wanting to help you....but it is
unfortunate that none of us have access to your account to check things 
for you.

Seems like you are part of a University?  A student, maybe?  Well,
you should check with your helpdesk or the department that gave you
the email account.  They are the ones to talk to....

Ed

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                                   Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
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Hello.  My name is Debra and I am doing a group project for Columbia
College located in Freeport Illinois.  My groups topic is privacy on the
Internet and we have narrowed it down to cookies and spamming.  My area of
discussion is what is spamming, statistics, history, etc.  If you could
mail me with and Information I would greatly appreciate it.  My project is
due on Monday.  I am sorry about the short notice but there are just so
many web sites about spamming that I just got to yours.  If you could help
us we would appreciated....sincerely...
MIS group from Illinois

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On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, MS NMBR 3 wrote:

> Hello.  My name is Debra and I am doing a group project for Columbia
> College located in Freeport Illinois.  My groups topic is privacy on the
> Internet and we have narrowed it down to cookies and spamming.  My area of
> discussion is what is spamming, statistics, history, etc.  If you could
> mail me with and Information I would greatly appreciate it.  My project is
> due on Monday.  I am sorry about the short notice but there are just so
> many web sites about spamming that I just got to yours.  If you could help
> us we would appreciated....sincerely...

You have managed to email to the pine-info@u.washington.edu mailing list
which is devoted to the discussion of the email user agent known as pine.

While pine and spam are both 4 letter words....they are not the same.
The pine list is, at times, a target for spamming.  But we don't talk
about it.

Sorry to hear that Monday is the due date. 


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                                   Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
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My name is Pamela Lynne Sweeney and I am a student at the University of
West Florida.  I am interested in any additional information on Pine that
you may be able to provide.  I have a personal computer in my dorm room
and would appreciate any and all help in learning about the program.
Thank you for your time.  

Sincerely,

Pamela L. Sweeney



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>> "PLS" == Pamela L Sweeney <psweeney@students.uwf.edu> writes:

PLS> I am interested in any additional information on Pine that you
PLS> may be able to provide.

There's the pine information centre:

	<http://www.washington.edu/pine/index.html>

PLS> I have a personal computer in my dorm room and would appreciate
PLS> any and all help in learning about the program.

All information about Pine is available from the above site. You can
find printable documents on my own site:

	<http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/pine.html>

HTH,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
I killed a 6-pack just to watch it die.

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>> "EMG" == Edward M Greshko <Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com> writes:

EMG> On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, MS NMBR 3 wrote:
[cookies and spamming]

EMG> While pine and spam are both 4 letter words....they are not the
EMG> same.  The pine list is, at times, a target for spamming.  But we
EMG> don't talk about it.

Okay, the starting point is Nancy "Windows CE" McGough's filtering FAQ:

ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/
       hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html
ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering\mail\faq.txt

What you're probably looking for is Gandalf's spam FAQ. It's mentioned 
in that document.

Happy hunting,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Your job is being a professor and researcher: That's one hell of a
good excuse for some of the brain-damages of minix.
(Linus Torvalds to Andrew Tanenbaum)

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     Could  you please tell me  how to deal with it?
  I have a file attached with the message which sent to me,but I don't
know how to view it  ..when
 I try, the screen showed that 'don't know how
to display' 
and worst of it..a file attachment will be almost unavailable now...could
you please answer me as soon as you can..I'm dying,if I can't see it
       please  .........thank you very much....
                                  
                                 


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>> "PS" == Piyaratwadee Sawadee <u3919020@student.chula.ac.th> writes:

PS> I have a file attached with the message which sent to me,but I
PS> don't know how to view it ..when I try, the screen showed that
PS> 'don't know how to display' and worst of it..a file attachment
PS> will be almost unavailable now...

Ok, when you try to display the file, pine looks for an application to 
launch, e.g. winword for .doc and so on. You don't have the proper
application set in /etc/mailcap, so you need to save the file to disk
and transfer it to a computer that is capable of displaying the
file. Just follow the instructions at the bottom of the screen.

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
"Mounting is used for three things: climbing on a horse, linking in a
hard disk unit in data systems, and, well, mounting during sex".
(Christa Keil)

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my messages on the month of october islost when I tried to viewed it.What
will I do to retrieve it back?


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To Whom It May Concern,
  I would like to ask how to e-talk on PINE from one school with another? 
  Thank you.

Sincerely,
Quyen Thang


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Dear Sir or Madam:

Please install the latest release for me.

                             Marion w. Keys
                             Cockeysville/Hunt Valley, Maryland

Thank for your kindness.




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I have pine for unix setup to use pop. If I then set the
mail-check-interval=15 it does not go out to the pop server and check
mail. This does work if I use imap. How can you make pop recheck for
mail.

Thanks Marty

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>> "EM" == Everett, Marty <MEverett@IKON.com> writes:

EM> I have pine for unix setup to use pop. If I then set the
EM> mail-check-interval=15 it does not go out to the pop server and
EM> check mail. This does work if I use imap. How can you make pop
EM> recheck for mail.

Do what the FAQ tells you - use a program that "pop"s your mail
server. fetchmail is pretty much ok.

Robin - totally drunk

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
What the world needs now is killfiles that actually kill.

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On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, David L Miller wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote:
> 
> > Any chance that I can go to Web pages from Pine??
> 
> Pine 4 will allow you to fire up your web browser on an embedded URL
> just like viewing an attachment....

That's good.  

But if that is done, perhaps is there any Pine Web site that may have a
script to accomplish it already with previous Pine's?

Or how about, where can I find scripts anyhow, for miscellaneous purposes?
Does anyone have any??

Here is what happened with a script Robert gave me.  'lyx' is the name of
Robert's script.

It no longer tells me Permission denied, since Robert gave me an odd
looking command chmod to type to fix this.  

But still, it won't accomplish the goal for me.

What happens is exactly like this.  Viewing a message, I type '|' and then
'lyx' Return.  Then, Lynx does seem to start up.  However, what I get is a
blank screen.  The screen is empty, except for the help line at the
bottom.  Going up and down, still finds the screen empty.

Next thing is I type capital Q to quit Lynx.  Then the following message
appears at the bottom of the screen.
 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
              [PIPE MESSAGE Result: -: No such file or directory]
? Help       M Main Menu  P PrevMsg     - PrevPage    D Delete      R
Reply
O OTHER CMDS V ViewAttch  N NextMsg   Spc NextPage    U Undelete    F
Forward

------------------------------------------------------------------------

This whole scenario happens with ANY message I try it with. There could be
plenty of http parts in the message.  It always happens, regardless of
message content.  


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Th problem I have with that is then I have to setup mail on the unix
box. And the user ids on unix do not match mail server so will have to
keep some type of table to match unix user id to mail server id. That
seems like alot of maintance. At this piont I do not even have to have
sendmail runing becuase I am pointing outgoing mail to a smtp gateway.
All my config at this piont is either in the global pine.conf or local
.pinerc. I would like to keep maintance down as mouch as possible. These
system have no requirement for local unix mail. And in the future will
migrate to PC based mail and will use a gui client to the same server.

Imap seems like the better way to go but at this time I am still
tracking down a problem I have will all imap mail messages having trash
( ie extra characters ) at the end of the mail message. The mail
messages look fine but just have characters appended to the end of the
messages. If I pop in and get the message the "trash" is not is the
local poped message.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Robin S. Socha [SMTP:r.socha@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de]
> Sent:	Friday, November 07, 1997 2:00 AM
> To:	Everett, Marty
> Cc:	Pine Discussion Forum
> Subject:	Re: Suport for pop and the check mail setting
> 
> >> "EM" == Everett, Marty <MEverett@IKON.com> writes:
> 
> EM> I have pine for unix setup to use pop. If I then set the
> EM> mail-check-interval=15 it does not go out to the pop server and
> EM> check mail. This does work if I use imap. How can you make pop
> EM> recheck for mail.
> 
> Do what the FAQ tells you - use a program that "pop"s your mail
> server. fetchmail is pretty much ok.
> 
> Robin - totally drunk
> 
> -- 
> Robin S. Socha M.A.
> Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
> What the world needs now is killfiles that actually kill.

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To whom it may concern:
	I have been using pine for two years now, and I really like it.
But lately it has been telling me that I have exceeded my quota.  I can
no longer save anything, nor can I update addresses.  What can I do to fix
this?  I have tried deleting stuff that I have saved, but that isn't
working either.  Is this something that I can fix myself or do you have to
do it?  OR do you even know what my problem is?  I would appreciate your
help if you have the time.  Thanks!

Sincerely,
Kris Rempe

my address is   00207592@bigred.unl.edu



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On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Kristin Michelle Rempe wrote:

> To whom it may concern:
> 	I have been using pine for two years now, and I really like it.
> But lately it has been telling me that I have exceeded my quota.  I can
> no longer save anything, nor can I update addresses.  What can I do to fix
> this?  I have tried deleting stuff that I have saved, but that isn't
> working either.  Is this something that I can fix myself or do you have to
> do it?  OR do you even know what my problem is?  I would appreciate your
> help if you have the time.  Thanks!

Sometimes, after you delete the files to bring your disk usage below the
quota, you need to logout of the machine and re-log in ... I know this is
true with some UNIX systems.  Try removing whatever files that you don't
need to bring yourself down under the quote and logout/login.

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Hi,

How about a feature that will look into the .addressbook files and not
'take' the address if it is already in the file.   I have taken many
addresses and then having to go through them and delete duplicates.

Please send me feedback.






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On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Solstice wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Kristin Michelle Rempe wrote:
> 
> > [Standard quota problem]
> 
> Sometimes, after you delete the files to bring your disk usage below the
> quota, you need to logout of the machine and re-log in ... I know this is
> true with some UNIX systems.  Try removing whatever files that you don't
> need to bring yourself down under the quote and logout/login.

One other thing that most people simply do not realize is that on a LOT of
unix systems, you have more than one quota associated with your account.
On the one I use, for instance, I have 3 quotas.  One quota is for my user
account, another is for my mail spool, and yet another is for my space on
/tmp.  If you are deleting messages from your saved folders, you are
deleting them from your USER space.  If it is your MAIL quota that is
overstuffed, deleting saved messages will have no affect whatsoever
(assuming that you have one quota for your userspace and another for your
mail spool, which you probably do)  Do bring your MAIL quota down, you
have to delete stuff from your inbox. If you are interested in the unix
command for checking your quota/usage, try 'man quota'  If you don't want
to read the man pages (shame shame) try 'quota -v', which may or may not
work on your system.

Hope this helps.
Pat



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On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, ACTING1 wrote:
> How about a feature that will look into the .addressbook files and not
> 'take' the address if it is already in the file.   I have taken many
> addresses and then having to go through them and delete duplicates.
> Please send me feedback.
> 
None of us is getting any younger!  For those who have "oldtimer's" it's
nice just to be able to remember we once were...  uhm what am I thinking
of?  Strange dejavu, I seem to have forgotten this before.  (-:
John de Boer


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can also try vquota 9which I use)

On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Noone Special wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Solstice wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Kristin Michelle Rempe wrote:
> One other thing that most people simply do not realize is that on a LOT of
> unix systems, you have more than one quota associated with your account.
snip
> have to delete stuff from your inbox. If you are interested in the unix
> command for checking your quota/usage, try 'man quota'  If you don't want
> to read the man pages (shame shame) try 'quota -v', which may or may not
> work on your system.


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To whom it may concern,

	I am having trouble changing my password, can you please help me.

				Thanks,

				Alan


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   Thank you very much for your great help. well, I didn't try it on..but
if  I work it out , I'll let you know
   I 'm really appreciate for that and vey very nice to know you
                                    bye,
                                     Kay




On 6 Nov 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:

> >> "PS" == Piyaratwadee Sawadee <u3919020@student.chula.ac.th> writes:
> 
> PS> I have a file attached with the message which sent to me,but I
> PS> don't know how to view it ..when I try, the screen showed that
> PS> 'don't know how to display' and worst of it..a file attachment
> PS> will be almost unavailable now...
> 
> Ok, when you try to display the file, pine looks for an application to 
> launch, e.g. winword for .doc and so on. You don't have the proper
> application set in /etc/mailcap, so you need to save the file to disk
> and transfer it to a computer that is capable of displaying the
> file. Just follow the instructions at the bottom of the screen.
> 
> -- 
> Robin S. Socha M.A.
> "Mounting is used for three things: climbing on a horse, linking in a
> hard disk unit in data systems, and, well, mounting during sex".
> (Christa Keil)
> 


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The 'ports' info in the 3.96 distribution mentions that this is part
complete.    Where can I obtain more information as I wish to
attempt to run pine on a Nile running dcosx.

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I have received some e-mail from a neighbor in MIME format.  I cannot decode
it.  Please help!!!

Thank you!

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Dear sir
               I have received a mail containing an attached file of
Type MESSAGE/PARTIAL
How do i decode it.

Thanx in advance
JayaPrasad
jayap@giasmd01.vsnl.net.in


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I have a question. I know how to clean the new mail, but I do not know how
to erase old mails. Will you tell me as soon as possible?


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I would really like some nude women pics, please!

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>>>>> "Micah83" == Micah83  <Micah83@aol.com> writes:

    Micah83> I would really like some nude women pics, please!

Perhaps a warning in the FAQ about the public flogging one can expect
to get from Robin the Terrible with a post like this would serve as an 
effective deterrent.  =)

Matt

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>From: Matt Simmons <simmonmt@acm.org>
>Date: 08 Nov 1997 20:20:10 -0600

>Micah83@aol.com writes:

>>I would really like some nude women pics, please!
>Perhaps a warning in the FAQ about the public flogging one can expect
>to get from Robin the Terrible with a post like this would serve as an 
>effective deterrent.  =)

Hey, don't get him excited.


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>> "G" == GTE/meg1  <meg1@gte.net> writes:

G> Please advise if there is a way that I can create a list of e-mail
G> addresses to correspond with.  If there is a charge etc.

Wrong forum, young man, *w-r-o-n-g* forum... Do a websearch for
"mailing lists" or such at:

	 <http://www.metacrawler.com>

Robin

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In-Reply-To: Yumiko  Abe's message of "Sat, 8 Nov 1997 18:19:03 -0500 (EST)"
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>> On Sat, 8 Nov 1997 18:19:03 -0500 (EST), Yumiko  Abe
>> <ya63@columbia.edu> said: 

YA> I have a question. I know how to clean the new mail, but I do not
YA> know how to erase old mails.

Two options:

    1) Rambo mode:
       dive into the subdirectories (should be ~/Mail/something) and
       kill those files manually. Only for the adventurous user...

    2) Clever mode:
       Enter Pine's M(ain) S(etup) C(onfig) and enable aggregate
       commands. If you hit "?", you'll get an explanation of what
       that command does. Then open the respective folder, mark by
       date and eXpunge the mails.

YA> Will you tell me as soon as possible?

No. It's already 4 in the morning...

Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
       On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better"  
	       			      ...  so I got myself Linux. 

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Subject: Re: Hey!!
In-Reply-To: Matt Simmons's message of "08 Nov 1997 20:20:10 -0600"
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>> "MS" == Matt Simmons <simmonmt@acm.org> writes:
>>>>>> "Micah83" == Micah83 <Micah83@aol.com> writes:
Micah83> I would really like some nude women pics, please!
MS> Perhaps a warning in the FAQ about the public flogging one can
MS> expect to get from Robin the Terrible with a post like this would
MS> serve as an effective deterrent.  =)

Naahhh... what the young man *really* wants is this address:

	  <http://www.farmsex.com>

at least that's where all the other aol users go... >KeWL<
site... Heheheee... };->

Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
One question: How come the .44 magnum is the worlds only usable point
and click interface ?

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Dear Sirs;

I am lokking to be able to spell check while seding email using AT&T's
Worldnet inernet service. Any suggestion are welcome.


Thank you 

Rich Sobel

richsobel@worldnet.att.net


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We use them a lot at work.  Did you try looking at the termcap of SCO =
unix?  Works well with us, although we use either Tiny Term or Maestro =
for wyse-50 emulation, tiny term is my preference.   Hope I help!


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could you send me a encoded message so that i can see if my decoder and
encoder work properly?

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On Sun, 9 Nov 1997, RICHARD SOBEL wrote:

> I am lokking to be able to spell check while seding email using AT&T's
> Worldnet inernet service. Any suggestion are welcome.

Hummm....you do not appear to be using "pine" as your "User Agent" when
sending from your att.net account.  

Can you confirm that you are using....or will be using "pine"?  If you
are, then this group can be of assistance.  If not.....then you should
contact the "helpdesk" of att.net.  (Ahhh....actually that in itself is
a good idea.)

Regards,
Ed


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Hi,
	I am currently not subscribed to this list.  I hope any reply
	can be sent directly to me and a copy of the reply cc to this
	list.

	My question is this:
	I have configured pine to launch an alternate editor(emacs)
	implicitly.  I have also configured pine to have my signature
	file be included at the bottom of the message.

	The problem arises when I want to forward a message.  The
	problem is that the message I want to forward does not appear
	in the message body.  But the signature file is included.  If
	I do not use emacs and use a signature file, the problem does
	not arise.  If I use emacs and do not include the signature
	file, everything is fine too.  The bottom line is: everything
	is fine as long as I do not include both emacs and the
	signature file.  Is there a work around anybody can provide?
	Or is this an emacs problem?  Any suggestion is appreciated.

Thanx
Jimmy
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Good day, I'd like to know how have straight e-mail: one man
write and the second after this answers? Thanks.








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Dear Sir or Madam,

I found out that I may either keep a message in the INBOX folder or
forward it to my pager. But I want to do both, i.e. being beeped when a
mail comes in via ".forward" AND being able to view / edit /reply a
message at my unix-terminal. 
But with the ".forward" command, the message is being
transferred to my pager and hence lost in terms of being able to view /
edit it with pine.
Answer would be nice.
Thank you.

                                              	Sincerely yours
						Michael Mann
						mmann@student.uni-kl.de


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>> "MM" == Michael Mann <mmann@student.uni-kl.de> writes:

MM> I found out that I may either keep a message in the INBOX folder or
MM> forward it to my pager. But I want to do both, i.e. being beeped
MM> when a mail comes in via ".forward" AND being able to view / edit
MM> /reply a message at my unix-terminal.  But with the ".forward"
MM> command, the message is being transferred to my pager and hence
MM> lost in terms of being able to view / edit it with pine.  Answer
MM> would be nice.  Thank you.

Use a filtering tool that keeps a copy on your account.

    man procmail

Later,
Robin

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>> "JO" == Jimmy Oh <jimmy.oh@icommerce.com.sg> writes:

JO> My question is this: I have configured pine to launch an alternate
JO> editor(emacs) implicitly.

Gnuserver? If not, that's braindead.

JO> The bottom line is: everything is fine as long as I do not include
JO> both emacs and the signature file.  Is there a work around anybody
JO> can provide?  Or is this an emacs problem?  Any suggestion is
JO> appreciated.

M-x gnus

Robin

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You could try putting your own address in your .forward file as well as
the address that you want to forward your messages to.  Let us know if it
works. 

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On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Michael Mann wrote:

> 
> Dear Sir or Madam,
> 
> I found out that I may either keep a message in the INBOX folder or
> forward it to my pager. But I want to do both, i.e. being beeped when a
> mail comes in via ".forward" AND being able to view / edit /reply a
> message at my unix-terminal. 
> But with the ".forward" command, the message is being
> transferred to my pager and hence lost in terms of being able to view /
> edit it with pine.
> Answer would be nice.
> Thank you.
> 
>                                               	Sincerely yours
> 						Michael Mann
> 						mmann@student.uni-kl.de
> 
> 


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Hello,


I've just tried to open a message and my Pine core dumped. I am suprised
with this. I would expect an error message or something alike, but not a
crash. It shows the following message when I try to open the message:

Problem detected: "Received abort signal".
Pine Exiting.
Abort (core dumped)

I've just subscribed this list to tell you about this because it can be
some bug.

The e-mail message seems a little bit strange, but I can read it with the
native "mail" client of the Solaris.

I am using UW Pine 3.95 and UW IMAP 4.1-Beta server.

Sorry if I am talking about some known problem.

Alex

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Hello -

I just received an email message from a potential employer who sent me
two files which are encoded using the application octet-stream. Is there
anyplace I can get a free copy of this program to download so I can read
my two attached files. The information says they are base 64.????

Thanks for your help. Della.

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>> "DD" == Della Dash <DellaDash@worldnet.att.net> writes:

DD> Hello - I just received an email message from a potential employer
DD> who sent me two files which are encoded using the application
DD> octet-stream. Is there anyplace I can get a free copy of this
DD> program to download so I can read my two attached files. The
DD> information says they are base 64.????

What does the line on your monitor say, too? Hit v to view, S to
save. Copy the stuff to disc, it's probably WinWord.

Robin

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 20:25:31 -0600 (CST)
From: c716689@showme.missouri.edu
To: jenny oliver <OLIVR11@aol.com>, erin stremsterfer <strem@siu.edu>,
    jody jordan <c717211@showme.missouri.edu>,
    maggie basile <basilemm@SLU.EDU>,
    matt villasana <mavillasana@DELTA.IS.TCU.EDU>,
    laurie mason <lcm009s@nic.smsu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Alert about some viruses being sent, this is ok to read (fwd)





---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 14:55:03 -0600 (CST)
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To: Jeff Hood <c713857@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Jeff Patton <c716800@showme.missouri.edu>, Jen Bueler <X395@TRUMAN.edu>,
    Jen Doyle <jmdoyle@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu>,
    John Sprague <c713450@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Kristi Orms <ormskm@muohio.edu>, Meagan McQuiggan <Y315@TRUMAN.edu>,
    Nader Rajab <N8DOGG@aol.com>,
    Natalie Ramlow <c716689@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Phil Schaeffer <PSXXIII@aol.com>, Ryan Eason <reason@students.uiuc.edu>,
    Sarah Sieve <ssieve@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>,
    Andrew Probert <c724275@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Alex MacDowell <yalishanda@aol.com>
Subject: Fwd: Alert about some viruses being sent, this is ok to read (fwd)



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 20:23:27 -0700
From: HEATHER  REBECCA HERNANDEZ <heather.hernandez@mailexcite.com>
To: ryan nicholas eason <reason@students.uiuc.edu>,
    plueder <plueder@ibm.net>, "Tiffany B." <c714873@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Katie Konrad <c714483@showme.missouri.edu>,
    John Rinaldis <jrinaldi@niagara.com>,
    Jenny O'Keefe <c715771@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Jennifer Nations <c688357@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Erin Zinna <c713681@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Chris Doss <c722052@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Alert about some viruses being sent, this is ok to read (fwd)

>
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 16:47:13 -0600 (CST)
>From: Rieanne Myers <c718895@showme.missouri.edu>
>To: Betsey Lowe <bdl2354@griffon.mwsc.edu>
>Cc: Liz Clarkson <c714640@showme.missouri.edu>,
>    Melanie Tate <m037091t@mail.macc.cc.mo.us>,
>    Sabrina Turner <sabbymarie@hotmail.com>,
>    Stephanie Paalhar <stefip@hotmail.com>,
>    Anitra Walgren <awalgren@hotmail.com>,
>    Susan Coulter <c718188@showme.missouri.edu>,
>    Angela Dorrell <fallenangel6_6_6@hotmail.com>,
>    Gini Fite <gaf1451@griffon.mwsc.edu>,
>    Brad Groves <bsg921s@nic.smsu.edu>,
>    Amy Hischke <c717178@showme.missouri.edu>,
>    Quiana Jones <c718488@showme.missouri.edu>,
>    Tabitha Kurtz <c719832@showme.missouri.edu>,
>    Michele Kuznitz <c718656@showme.missouri.edu>,
>    Stephanie Sinclair <c718566@showme.missouri.edu>,
>    Meg Vanderliest <c719928@showme.missouri.edu>,
>    Natalia Villanova <c718830@showme.missouri.edu>,
>    Amanda Volk <c718740@showme.missouri.edu>,
>    Amanda Willis <c715795@showme.missouri.edu>
>Subject: Alert about some viruses being sent, this is ok to read
>
>
>>Subject:  ****  VIRUS ALERT!  *****
>>> WARNING!!!!!! If you receive an e-mail titled "JOIN THE  CREW" DO
>>> NOT open it! It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! Send
>>>  this letter out to as  many people you can.......this is a new virus
>>> and  not many people know about it! This information was received this
>>>  morning from IBM, please share it with anyone that might access
>>>  the  Internet.
>>>
>>> Also, If anyone receives mail entitled; PENPAL GREETINGS! please
>>delete
>>> it WITHOUT reading it!!  This is a warning for all Internet users
>>> there is a dangerous virus propagating across the Internet through
>>> an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!".
>>>
>>> DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GREETINGS"!!
>>> This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are
>>> interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is
>>> too late. The trojan horse" virus will have already infected the
>>> boot sector of your hard drive, destroying all of the data present.
>>> It is a self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will
>>> AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is
>>> present in YOUR mailbox!
>>> This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds the potential to
>>> DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your in box, and
>>> who's mail is in  their in box and so on.  If this virus keeps
>>>  getting passed, it has the potential to do a great deal of DAMAGE to
>>> computer networks worldwide!!!! Please, delete the message
>>> entitled  "PENPAL GREETINGS!" as soon as you see it!  And pass this
>>> message along to all of
>>> your friends, relatives  and the other readers of the newsgroups and
>>> mailing lists which you are on so that they are not hurt by this
>>> dangerous virus!!!! Please pass this along to everyone you know so
>>this
>>> canbe
>>> stopped. PASS THIS ON TO YOUR FRIENDS!!! WARNING !!!
>>> There is a new virus going arround in the last couple of days!!!
>>> DO NOT open or even look at any mail that you get that says:
>>>  "Returned or Unable to Deliver" This virus will attach itself to
>>> your computer components and render them useless. Immediately
>>>  delete any mail items that says this. AOL has said this is a very
>>>  dangerous virus, and there is NO remedy for it at this time, Please
>>Be
>>> Careful, And forward
>>> to all your on-line friends A.S.A.P.Forward this A.S.A.P. to every
>>single
>>> person you know!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Angela  Di Lollo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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From: Rieanne Myers <c718895@showme.missouri.edu>
To: Betsey Lowe <bdl2354@griffon.mwsc.edu>
Cc: Liz Clarkson <c714640@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Melanie Tate <m037091t@mail.macc.cc.mo.us>,
    Sabrina Turner <sabbymarie@hotmail.com>,
    Stephanie Paalhar <stefip@hotmail.com>,
    Anitra Walgren <awalgren@hotmail.com>,
    Susan Coulter <c718188@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Angela Dorrell <fallenangel6_6_6@hotmail.com>,
    Gini Fite <gaf1451@griffon.mwsc.edu>,
    Brad Groves <bsg921s@nic.smsu.edu>,
    Amy Hischke <c717178@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Quiana Jones <c718488@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Tabitha Kurtz <c719832@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Michele Kuznitz <c718656@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Stephanie Sinclair <c718566@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Meg Vanderliest <c719928@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Natalia Villanova <c718830@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Amanda Volk <c718740@showme.missouri.edu>,
    Amanda Willis <c715795@showme.missouri.edu>
Subject: Alert about some viruses being sent, this is ok to read


>Subject:  ****  VIRUS ALERT!  *****
>> WARNING!!!!!! If you receive an e-mail titled "JOIN THE  CREW" DO
>> NOT open it! It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! Send
>>  this letter out to as  many people you can.......this is a new virus
>> and  not many people know about it! This information was received this
>>  morning from IBM, please share it with anyone that might access
>>  the  Internet.
>>
>> Also, If anyone receives mail entitled; PENPAL GREETINGS! please
>delete
>> it WITHOUT reading it!!  This is a warning for all Internet users
>> there is a dangerous virus propagating across the Internet through
>> an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!".
>>
>> DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GREETINGS"!!
>> This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are
>> interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is
>> too late. The trojan horse" virus will have already infected the
>> boot sector of your hard drive, destroying all of the data present.
>> It is a self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will
>> AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is
>> present in YOUR mailbox!
>> This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds the potential to
>> DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your in box, and
>> who's mail is in  their in box and so on.  If this virus keeps
>>  getting passed, it has the potential to do a great deal of DAMAGE to
>> computer networks worldwide!!!! Please, delete the message
>> entitled  "PENPAL GREETINGS!" as soon as you see it!  And pass this
>> message along to all of
>> your friends, relatives  and the other readers of the newsgroups and
>> mailing lists which you are on so that they are not hurt by this
>> dangerous virus!!!! Please pass this along to everyone you know so
>this
>> canbe
>> stopped. PASS THIS ON TO YOUR FRIENDS!!! WARNING !!!
>> There is a new virus going arround in the last couple of days!!!
>> DO NOT open or even look at any mail that you get that says:
>>  "Returned or Unable to Deliver" This virus will attach itself to
>> your computer components and render them useless. Immediately
>>  delete any mail items that says this. AOL has said this is a very
>>  dangerous virus, and there is NO remedy for it at this time, Please
>Be
>> Careful, And forward
>> to all your on-line friends A.S.A.P.Forward this A.S.A.P. to every
>single
>> person you know!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>
>Angela  Di Lollo











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Hello,

I recently started PINE and am finding it interesting.
However I need clarification on certain things....

1. How do we check for mail after we have started using PINE
apart from the the automatic checking time set in the SETUP option ?

2. How can we define multiple PINE logins for the same UNIX login ?

Thanks in advance.






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This is a hoax.  Please disregard this.

Brian Nisonger
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>> "BEN" == BRIAN E NISONGER <axben@UAA.ALASKA.EDU> writes:

BEN> This is a hoax.  Please disregard this.

Thanks, Brian, I was about to start reformatting my harddrive! *phew*

Robin

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I HAVE A FEW QUESTION. FIRSTLY, CAN I INCLUDE A PICTURE IN MY MESSAGE?
SECONDLY, CAN I USE PINE AS FOR INTERNET SURFING ENGINE? THIRDLY, HOW CAN
I CONTACT OTHER TELNET LINK AND CAN I DO THIS WITHOUT TAKING PERMISSION
FROM LOCAL STAFF WORKER? 




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Ok, the next person to post a virus hoax here, gets 10,000 hail mary's ,
wearing shorts, kneeling on ground glass...

:)  sounds like fitting punishment to me...


At 06:36 AM 11/12/97 +0100, Robin S. Socha wrote:
>>> "BEN" == BRIAN E NISONGER <axben@UAA.ALASKA.EDU> writes:
>
>BEN> This is a hoax.  Please disregard this.
>
>Thanks, Brian, I was about to start reformatting my harddrive! *phew*
>
>Robin
>
>-- 
>Robin S. Socha M.A.
>Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
>Windows NT - How to make a 100 MIPS Linux
>workstation perform like an 8 MHz 286
>
>


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On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Ashok Nair wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I recently started PINE and am finding it interesting.
> However I need clarification on certain things....
> 
> 1. How do we check for mail after we have started using PINE
> apart from the the automatic checking time set in the SETUP option ?

The ^L (Ctrl/L) command clears the screen and redraws it (useful if it has
become corrupted for some reason); it also checks for new mail as it does
so.

An older method which, I believe, still works is to move to the last
message in the Index screen and press the Down Arrow a few (3?) times.

^L is better IMHO.

> 2. How can we define multiple PINE logins for the same UNIX login ?

Just start Pine as usual.

However if two or more people are hoping to access the same mail folder
(eg, the INBOX) concurrently then you will have to be using a mail folder
format that supports concurrent access.  The format most commonly found
(often referred to as Berkeley format) does not support this.

Cheers,

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On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Pine Versions wrote:

> 
> You could try putting your own address in your .forward file as well as
> the address that you want to forward your messages to.  Let us know if it
> works. 

DON'T NEVER DO THIS !!!!!!

You create a mail-loop: sending to an address which is forwarded to an
address with a forward, which ......

The correct method is this format of the .forward file:
\old-address,  new-address

The old-address is your standard E-mail address, and new-address is your
pager or whatever.

The \ is an escape character which tells sendmail to don't use the
.forward file, and the loop is broken!


> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>  
> 
> On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Michael Mann wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Dear Sir or Madam,
> > 
> > I found out that I may either keep a message in the INBOX folder or
> > forward it to my pager. But I want to do both, i.e. being beeped when a
> > mail comes in via ".forward" AND being able to view / edit /reply a
> > message at my unix-terminal. 
> > But with the ".forward" command, the message is being
> > transferred to my pager and hence lost in terms of being able to view /
> > edit it with pine.
> > Answer would be nice.
> > Thank you.
> > 
> >                                               	Sincerely yours
> > 						Michael Mann
> > 						mmann@student.uni-kl.de
> > 
> > 
> 
> 





Regards

Lars Scheffmann,  Network Adm.            E-Mail: scheffmann@dou.dk
Dept. of Academic Information Systems     Phone:  +45 6615 8600 ext.2867
DOU,  Odense University                   Direct: +45 6557 2867
Niels Bohrs Alle 11,  5230  Odense M      Fax:    +45 6612 3366


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On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Mohd Ali Samsudin wrote:

>I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. 
>FIRSTLY, CAN I INCLUDE A PICTURE IN MY MESSAGE?
Yes, use attach.
>SECONDLY, CAN I USE PINE AS FOR INTERNET SURFING ENGINE? 
No, pine is NOT a web browser. 
As you appear to use telnet, 
try 
	lynx http:/.....
for web browsing.

>THIRDLY, HOW CAN I CONTACT OTHER TELNET LINK 
???? (depends upon your telnet software, try a "handbook")
>AND CAN I DO THIS WITHOUT TAKING PERMISSION
>FROM LOCAL STAFF WORKER? 
????

-- 
hal :-)
----------------------------------------------------------
                                               bork@plb.de



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Could consider developing one's own personal internet such as some do a 
private country club.  :-)

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On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, H. Bork wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Mohd Ali Samsudin wrote:
> 
> >I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. 
> >FIRSTLY, CAN I INCLUDE A PICTURE IN MY MESSAGE?
> Yes, use attach.
> >SECONDLY, CAN I USE PINE AS FOR INTERNET SURFING ENGINE? 
> No, pine is NOT a web browser. 
> As you appear to use telnet, 
> try 
> 	lynx http:/.....
> for web browsing.
> 
> >THIRDLY, HOW CAN I CONTACT OTHER TELNET LINK 
> ???? (depends upon your telnet software, try a "handbook")
> >AND CAN I DO THIS WITHOUT TAKING PERMISSION
> >FROM LOCAL STAFF WORKER? 
> ????
> 
> -- 
> hal :-)
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>                                                bork@plb.de
>  there is one more question, how can I use lynx http:/ for web browsing
and where can Ii get it? Lastly thank you for your kindness and
cooperation. 


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Thanks for the info. I'll keep it for our files.

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Sr.Consultant, Helpdesk Services           helpline@mcmaster.ca
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McMaster University, ABB-132           Fax: (905) 528-3773
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On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Lars Scheffmann wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Pine Versions wrote:
> 
> > 
> > You could try putting your own address in your .forward file as well as
> > the address that you want to forward your messages to.  Let us know if it
> > works. 
> 
> DON'T NEVER DO THIS !!!!!!
> 
> You create a mail-loop: sending to an address which is forwarded to an
> address with a forward, which ......
> 
> The correct method is this format of the .forward file:
> \old-address,  new-address
> 
> The old-address is your standard E-mail address, and new-address is your
> pager or whatever.
> 
> The \ is an escape character which tells sendmail to don't use the
> .forward file, and the loop is broken!
> 
> 
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Jessie Kleefstra                    E-Mail:kleefstr@offsv1.cis.mcmaster.ca
> > Sr.Consultant, Helpdesk Services           helpline@mcmaster.ca
> > Computing & Information Services     Phone: (905) 525-9140  ext. 24357
> > McMaster University, ABB-132           Fax: (905) 528-3773
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  
> > 
> > On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Michael Mann wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Dear Sir or Madam,
> > > 
> > > I found out that I may either keep a message in the INBOX folder or
> > > forward it to my pager. But I want to do both, i.e. being beeped when a
> > > mail comes in via ".forward" AND being able to view / edit /reply a
> > > message at my unix-terminal. 
> > > But with the ".forward" command, the message is being
> > > transferred to my pager and hence lost in terms of being able to view /
> > > edit it with pine.
> > > Answer would be nice.
> > > Thank you.
> > > 
> > >                                               	Sincerely yours
> > > 						Michael Mann
> > > 						mmann@student.uni-kl.de
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Lars Scheffmann,  Network Adm.            E-Mail: scheffmann@dou.dk
> Dept. of Academic Information Systems     Phone:  +45 6615 8600 ext.2867
> DOU,  Odense University                   Direct: +45 6557 2867
> Niels Bohrs Alle 11,  5230  Odense M      Fax:    +45 6612 3366
> 
> 


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I need help with the talk mechanism of the system...Today a freind
requested to talk with me and I dont know how ot respond yes or
no...Please send me directions on how to do so...Thanks a lot



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tO WHOM IT MAY CON CERN WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR.. SO I9 CAN PROPERLY APPLY..
THANK YOU.. IS THIS A BD SITE FOR BAD BOYS

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RESPONDING TO MYT CHANCE OF A LIFETIME.. I HAVE BEEN BAD .. WHAT SHOULD BE
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>> "k" == kamuller  <kamuller@CC.OWU.EDU> writes:

k> I need help with the talk mechanism of the system...

No. You need to read the netiquette, you need a spellchecker, and you
need a new signature. Yours sucks.

k> Today a freind requested to talk with me and I dont know how ot
k> respond yes or no...Please send me directions on how to do
k> so...Thanks a lot


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Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
"They don't let you teach there, do they?"
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hello,  im having a problem with my mail.  it says that i have filled my
disk qouta.  is there a way to save the mail with out deleteing the old
saved messages.  or a way to expand the saving files.
thanx kevin kleinchester


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>> "KJK" == Kevin J Kleinchester <s2kjklei@titan.vcu.edu> writes:

KJK> hello, im having a problem with my mail.  it says that i have
KJK> filled my disk qouta.  is there a way to save the mail with out
KJK> deleteing the old saved messages.

I guess that what the term "copying to disk" means, yes...

KJK> or a way to expand the saving files.  

No. But you can compress the old mail, using e.g. gzip, the problem
being that pine cannot read gzipped files.

Later,
Robin

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    I would like to buy e-mail address in the united states only please send 
price list by e-mail or ph 910-826-0557

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>> "D" == D13M6  <D13M6@aol.com> writes:

D> I would like to buy e-mail address in the united states only please
D> send price list by e-mail or ph 910-826-0557

How much are you willing to pay? This kind of service is kinda
expensive... And if you'd kindly state what purpose you need these
addresses for, it would make it a lot easier for us to calculate the
costs, because we could narrow the search for possible targets.

Yours sincerely,
Robin S. Socha M.A.

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 

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        For some unknown reason I received a load of info about Pine.  I
have no idea why?  What happened?

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Please, tell me how to get off this list
i need the listserv address and the command!
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Thank you for copiration with PERDECA organization  beacouse they ectualy
this team of folk give us a free of paymont E_mail.
I`M a student of International Bussines School this school oh let me say
corectly I live in Tashkent this is the capital of Uzbekistan.
THANK YOU.









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Is their a way that I can get pine to tell me if I have new mail in any of
my folders?  I am using procmail to filter into different folders, and the
only way that I can check to see if their is any new mail is to open each
box, which is a real pain.  Anyone know any tricks, or is their a pine
flag I can set?

Regards,

	Jason A. Lixfeld

.oO
System Administrator [Level4]
TUCOWS Interactive Inc. o/a Internet Direct
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>> "JL" == Jason Lixfeld <jlixfeld@idirect.ca> writes:

JL> Is their a way that I can get pine to tell me if I have new mail
JL> in any of my folders?  I am using procmail to filter into
JL> different folders, and the only way that I can check to see if
JL> their is any new mail is to open each box, which is a real pain.
JL> Anyone know any tricks, or is their a pine flag I can set?

man biff / xbiff / asmail...

Later,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
"Note that if I can get you to \"su and say\" something just by asking,
you have a very serious security problem on your system and you should
look into it."     (By Paul Vixie, vixie-cron 3.0.1 installation notes)

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On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Jason Lixfeld wrote:

> Is their a way that I can get pine to tell me if I have new
> mail in any of my folders?  I am using procmail to filter into
> different folders, and the only way that I can check to see if
> their is any new mail is to open each box, which is a real
> pain.  Anyone know any tricks, or is their a pine flag I can
> set?

In FOLDER INDEX mode, press the Tab key.

Johan Myreen
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>> "TOG" == The Only God <root@mail.tropical.co.mz> writes:

TOG> Please, tell me how to get off this list i need the listserv
TOG> address and the command!  thanks!

Check the pine website. Who made you sysadmin, anyway?

Later,
Robin

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  Hi, Do you have any infomation on this subject? If You do would you please
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Missing libpico.a file stops pine from completing the compiling process.
I looks good until the very last when I get this error message:
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It won't allow any binaries to be built.  

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I have a machine that doesn't open the Inbox when pine opens. If I go to
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users. Thsi however is not the case. It is this machine only that
doesn't open and all other machines are fine. A reboot doesn't help so
it's a little trickier than that. Please help.

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I have a file with names of files.
I want to "tail -10" to all these files. Who can I do it ?

Thanks for your help.

Regards.. Marco Moreno

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>> "MAM" == Marco Antonio Moreno <mmoreno.ccq@spicer.com.mx> writes:

MAM> I have a file with names of files.  I want to "tail -10" to all
MAM> these files. Who can I do it ?

for i in `cat file_with_names` ; do tail -10 $i ; done

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University 
One question: How come the .44 magnum is the worlds only usable point
and click interface ?					     Alan Cox

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I am looking for a way to set the IMAP password in PINE.

I understand that the username can be set in the .pinerc with...
   inbox-path={mailserver.domain.com/username}INBOX 
and I am looking for a similar method of setting the password.

My ultimate goal is for users to be able to access a remote mailbox as if
it were local without the hassle of entering a username and password every
time they use PINE.
 






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Sigh... Pine is a cross-platform product: are you talking about Pine on
UNIX, or PC-Pine?

If you are talking about PC-Pine then create an (empty) file called
pine.pwd in the same directory as your pinerc file.  PC-Pine will then
allow you to save your password in a (lightly) encrypted form within that
file.  [This is described in Pine's Technical Notes file.]

If you are talking about UNIX Pine then a different mechanism is used
based on UNIX's "rsh" mechanism.  Basically you need to arrange for your
IMAP server to have two things:

1.  To trust hosts on which people run Pine to use the rsh mechanism to
    connect to the machine on which the IMAP server runs: eg,
	rsh imap.your.site
    works.  (Clue: You probably want to set up a hosts.equiv file on it
    to list UNIX machines allowed to connect, or else set up a .rhosts
    file for each individual user (hassle to do and to maintain).)

2.  A symbolic link is made so that /etc/rimapd points to the real imapd
    executable.

Pine will then use this rsh-based pre-authenticated method of connecting
to your IMAP server automatically (unless you have deliberately turned the
attempt off in your Pine settings file).

Hint:  Many sites have a dedicated machine running their IMAP service.
Consequently they don't want random people being able to execute arbitrary
commands on the IMAP server.  A solution is to set the users' shell on the
IMAP server machine to execute a minimal blocker program which only allows
the /etc/rimapd program to be run.

Cheers,

-- 
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On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Jason Rains wrote:

> I am looking for a way to set the IMAP password in PINE.
> 
> I understand that the username can be set in the .pinerc with...
>    inbox-path={mailserver.domain.com/username}INBOX 
> and I am looking for a similar method of setting the password.
> 
> My ultimate goal is for users to be able to access a remote mailbox as if
> it were local without the hassle of entering a username and password every
> time they use PINE.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Folks,

    What should I have to do to use Pine software at my company ?

Thanks in advance.
Carlos Hastenreiter.


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>> "CH" == Carlos Hastenreiter <carlosh@tupy.com.br> writes:

CH> What should I have to do to use Pine software at my company ?

Read the documentation. Hitting "?" or "^G" somewhere should get you
started... 

Robin

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	Hi.

	Is there a way to find out if anyone is
	"fingering" my user name?  Are there records
	kept of this?  Are there automatic records kept?

	If someone "fingers" my user name, say, 20 times,
	will i get a notification of this fact?  200 times?

	I am using Pine.

	Thanks.


			
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Sorry,

    I want some commercial information. Should I have to pay a fee to UW
? Yes or No ? If yes, what are the legal proceedings ?

Thanks,
Carlos Hastenreiter.

Robin S. Socha wrote:

> >> "CH" == Carlos Hastenreiter <carlosh@tupy.com.br> writes:
>
> CH> What should I have to do to use Pine software at my company ?
>
> Read the documentation. Hitting "?" or "^G" somewhere should get you
> started...
>
> Robin
>
> --
> Robin S. Socha M.A.
> Why use Windows, since there is a door?

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Please could you help me. I have a problem sending my mail and I can't
understand why. I have followed the usual procedures, but the words 
"user quota exceeded" appear on the sceen frequently; as do "write to 
sent-mail: Failed", "/home/alpha2/user3/wyl/dead.letter" ect...

I would really appreciate it if you could give me some advice to sort 
this out once and for all. Thank you.

Yours sincerely,
Ms W.Y.Leung


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On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, CHRISTINE wrote:

:=	Hi.
:=
:=	Is there a way to find out if anyone is
:=	"fingering" my user name?  Are there records
:=	kept of this?  Are there automatic records kept?
:=
:=	If someone "fingers" my user name, say, 20 times,
:=	will i get a notification of this fact?  200 times?

Depending on what monitoring systems your system administrator has put in
place, you may be able to get this information.  You should talk to your
system administrator about this.

:=	I am using Pine.

What mail program you use makes no difference to your question.

:=	Thanks.

You're welcome.

--
Dylan Northrup <*> 
northrup@nwe.ufl.edu <*> 
http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~northrup <*>

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Major proplems. When Im in the middle of typin

m



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>> "DN" == Dylan Northrup <northrup@ucet.ufl.edu> writes:

[detect finger]
DN> Depending on what monitoring systems your system administrator has
DN> put in place, you may be able to get this information.  You should
DN> talk to your system administrator about this.

Yeah, right - tripwire for users... ]:->

SCNR,
Robin

-- 
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hacking (and/or conversations with God)."               (Matt Welsh)

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>> "WYL" == Wing Yin Leung <W.Y.Leung@bton.ac.uk> writes:

WYL> Please could you help me. I have a problem sending my mail and I
WYL> can't understand why. I have followed the usual procedures, but
WYL> the words "user quota exceeded" appear on the sceen frequently;
WYL> as do "write to sent-mail: Failed",
WYL> "/home/alpha2/user3/wyl/dead.letter" ect...

Your Internet Service Provider decided that each user should only have 
X amount of space on his hard-drive. You've been assigned this quota X 
and have exceeded it. You need to delete some files in your home
directory (i.e. /home/alpha2/user3/wyl/ or simply ~/). You can run a
unix command called "du" (i.e. du ~/) to find out which files or
directories take up too much space. Probably, you'll want to delete a
bunch of old mailfolders. Best thing for you to do is to talk to your
local help desk and ask them how to proceed. If you're the adventurous 
kind of person, try saying:

	man quota
	man du
	man rm
	man mcopy
	man pine

to find out how to help yourself. WARNING: rm cannot be "undeleted"...

Cheers,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Your job is being a professor and researcher: That's one hell of a
good excuse for some of the brain-damages of minix.
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>From: Dale Davis <sf2gyv@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
>Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:21:01 -0500 (EST)

>Major proplems. When Im in the middle of typin

>m

You have made powerful enemies who will stop at nothing to get you.


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To whom it may concern,
   how do i get help retrieving lost stored messages? i did not store them
in a separate file - only in my view folder. this morning i sat down to
check my e-mail, and my folder was completely empty.  Any advice or help
would be greatly appreciated. 

                        apablo


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On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, ANGELA ENRIQUEZ PABLO wrote:

:=To whom it may concern,
:=   how do i get help retrieving lost stored messages? i did not store them
:=in a separate file - only in my view folder. this morning i sat down to
:=check my e-mail, and my folder was completely empty.  Any advice or help
:=would be greatly appreciated. 

Ask your system administrator if he has good backups.

--
Dylan Northrup <*> 
northrup@nwe.ufl.edu <*> 
http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~northrup <*>

---------------
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  concept."
'Join the club.'
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Contact me ASAP!

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This is as simple an answer to your question that you will ever get:
NO!
Don't you know that "if it looks to good to be true, then it probably is"?
This is a discussion forum for users of a specific email package called
"Pine"....look at the address you sent your mail to. Does that suggest to
you...for even a moment...that this list has *any* connection with "Get
Rich Quick" scams???
Please...if all else deserts you and things look hopeless, use your
intelligence and common sense!
-Colin
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HDS Lab, Inc
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"Communications at the Speed of Life"
 On Fri, 14 Nov 1997 VQuickley2@aol.com wrote:

> Contact me ASAP!
> 


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This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to
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Hi there, 


I am using a dumb terminal to key in data.  I wish to use the data keyed in
the dumb
terminal for further (math and statiscal ) processing in my PC without
retyping the data in my PC. Actually, to be of any use to me, I  would need
to capture the full contents  of the screen (besides the data) in my PC.
 
How can I do it?
Can it be done by connecting the terminal to my PC and if so how can be
they be
connected?

Thanks in advance for any pointers. 

Regards.

Ivan Chew
weaver@mbox2.singnet.com.sg (Please reply to this email direct.)


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pls advise how to get rid of an armadillo. yard sprayed holes filled in but
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There are few known methods for ridding your yard of armadillos, and the
few known anfd tested methods are fairly drastic in nature. Before we
begin, you should realize that some really fundamental alterations are
going to take place in the topography of your yard. Here are a few ways to
rid yourself of this annoying critter:
1) Place a tripwire around the perimeter of his most frequently used hole,
this should be wired to an 88mm mortar placed sufficiently far away from
the hole as to assure maximum shell trajectory and accuracy. The next time
he surfaces....BOOM..he's armadillo meat, served up table ready, and
without those annoying shell fragments usually associated with mortared
dinner.
2)Create a number of "intersecting fields of fire" around the known
egress holes, and mount 50mm machine guns and grenade launchers
alternately around the hemispherically defined limit of the free fire zone
you have just created. Now this method will work, but  has the
disadvantage of not yielding lunch. Lead fragments are hazardous to human
health, and can damage dental work as well.
3) (My own preferred method) As in #2 above, create your fire zones, but
place Claymore anti-personnel charges in an arc around each hole.
Tripwires will be required of course, and care should be exercised to
ensure that your domestic pets do not stray into this most lethal kill
zone.....for example, it's a known fact that Claymore mines can short
circuit all of a cats' nine lives simultaneously.
4) This is perhaps the single most effective method of all, but can result
in large scale asset destruction. It accomplishes the objective, but
causes massive collateral damage. The theory is to cause an enormous
explosion, somewhat analogous to a below ground thermonuclear detonation.
The steps are shown below:
	a) Dig a hole in the center of your yard (measure carefully,
please) approximately 35 feet deep,(plus or minus two feet) and ten feet
in diameter.
	b) Place at least 400 lbs of either submarine gelignite,
"Plastique" (or any readily available former Soviet Union equivalent) in
the base of the hole. I strongly recommend a *very* remote hard wired
detonator, as opposed to any radio frequency method, because calling your
buddy on the cell 'phone to inform him of your triumphant "Ultimate
Armadillo Solution" could inadvertently destroy YOU as well as the
armadillo and the rest of your neighborhood. 
	c) 250 gallons of aviation fuel(JP5 is without doubt the way to go
here) immediately above the explosive.(A fuel bladder works, and explodes
in a more satisfying manner than a tank or other means of containment)
	d) 200+ lbs of commercial fertilizer packed tightly around the
fuel bladder and on top of it.
	e) Fill in earth above the contents of the hole, illuminate the
entire area thoroughly, retreat to a safe distance, arm your detonator,
wait for nightfall, and patiently await the arrival of your annoying
garden pest.
	f) Detonate immediately upon sight of this 'lil fella crawling out
of his hole.
I guarantee the results of option number four, you won't have a
neighborhood left to speak of, but by gum you *WILL* eliminate the
armadillo, most vegetation, the greater majority of any neighborhood
structures, and any other horticultural pests that formerly inhabited your
yard.
I do hope this helps!
Robin, did I miss anything?? It's been a while since I had to get rid of a
common garden pest.
-Colin


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> pls advise how to get rid of an armadillo. yard sprayed holes filled in but
> he justs digs another hole. live in very very heavy plant area and  can not
> remove or cut plants down HELP
> 


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> On Sun, 16 Nov 1997 WALTSAN@aol.com wrote:
> 
> pls advise how to get rid of an armadillo. yard sprayed holes filled in but
> he justs digs another hole. live in very very heavy plant area and  can not
> remove or cut plants down HELP

What Colin J. Raven suggests will work, but I think it would be best for
you to contract this job to someone who already has the necessary weapons
of mass destruction.   (Besides, I've got to use them up before those
savage Americans get to me!)  Contact me at the address below for further
information:

Saddam Hussein
Somewhere in Baghdad
(My friends know where I am hiding)
Iraq



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everytime i try and save something to my comp on email or even try and
send a message it says that my disc is exceeded it's quota limit.  how can
i fix this and what does it mean?  it says no room for files.  pleas help
me.  thank you .
melissa phillips


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On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Drop the Sanctions wrote:

> > On Sun, 16 Nov 1997 WALTSAN@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > pls advise how to get rid of an armadillo. yard sprayed holes filled in but
> > he justs digs another hole. live in very very heavy plant area and  can not
> > remove or cut plants down HELP
> 
> What Colin J. Raven suggests will work, but I think it would be best for
> you to contract this job to someone who already has the necessary weapons
> of mass destruction.   (Besides, I've got to use them up before those
> savage Americans get to me!)  Contact me at the address below for further
> information:

Oh, for crying out loud.

SoDamn Insane, aren't you kind of busy to be drumming up new
business right at the moment?  And while I appreciate Colin's
attention to detail, might I gently point out....it's an
ARMADILLO, OK? 

As in, get out the damn shotgun, and wait on the porch.  Geez.

Lea


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>> "L" == Lea  <Marianne.Aldridge@UAlberta.CA> writes:
L> On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Drop the Sanctions wrote:
>> > On Sun, 16 Nov 1997 WALTSAN@aol.com wrote:
>> > pls advise how to get rid of an armadillo. yard sprayed holes
>> > filled in but he justs digs another hole. live in very very heavy
>> > plant area and can not remove or cut plants down HELP
L> Oh, for crying out loud.  SoDamn Insane, aren't you kind of busy
L> to be drumming up new business right at the moment?  And while I
L> appreciate Colin's attention to detail, might I gently point
L> out....it's an ARMADILLO, OK?
L> As in, get out the damn shotgun, and wait on the porch.  Geez.

May I kindly suggest Armadillo-baseball? Huh-huh, KeWL, huh-huh...

Robin

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>> "MAP" == Melissa Ann Phillips <map6779@ksu.edu> writes:

MAP> everytime i try and save something to my comp on email or even
MAP> try and send a message it says that my disc is exceeded it's
MAP> quota limit.  how can i fix this and what does it mean?  it says
MAP> no room for files.

Ask you local help-desk.

Robin

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Dear Friend:

I look forward to getting home in the evenings and checking my mailbox 
so that I can count the amount of money I have received for the day. You 
can be in my position too,by counting as much as $200-$400 each day. 
This is real and I am a real person on a mission to achieve financial 
freedom. Do not give up on this and do not throw this aside because I 
tell you without reservations, that this does work!! I am glad that I 
did not throw this away when I received it because I am now going to the bank to make deposits instead of withdrawals! Join me and the others by gaining your own 
financial freedom and continuing this process by sharing it with 
whomever you come in contact with because the more you share, the  more 
money you make.

You may have an interest in receiving an INTEREST FREE LOAN, even if 
you have had CREDIT PROBLEMS IN THE PAST. Well, read on because this 
one can really bring the CASH FAST! And it only costs a minimum.

$7,000 LOAN--NO PAYBACK EVER!!!!!!!

Time: 12-30 days

Interested? Read on.


WOULD YOU LIKE A $7,000 LOAN THAT NEVER HAS TO BE REPAID?


You can definitely get up to $7000 within a few weeks and you will
not have to pay it back. This program is designed to raise money fast.
It is VERY inexpensive to participate in because it's been designed 
to be run totally online, there are no postage or name list expenses! 
Read this over and carefully follow the instructions. It has worked 
very well for me each time that I have used it. In addition, this 
program is inexpensive and brings quick response.
Need cash quick?? USE IT!!

To get started quickly: Put two, 2 line ads in the classified section
of any online server.

There is no need to run your ads longer than two weeks. You will 
receive more than enough responses in that period of time to assure 
your success. However, if your need for cash is great, run it as long 
as you wish.

America Online is a good place to advertise this money making loan 
program. Place your ads in classifieds under Business Opportunities. 
Place your ads as often and in as many categories as possible because
AOL's classifieds is like a ticker tape, it changes minute by minute. 
Try to place your ads at least two to three times per day. If you can
do this, you should have enough responders in a couple of days to
receive money. Get started Now!! 

If you use BULK EMAIL, then you will even reach more people and then you 
can triple your profits. You can also find other innovative ways to 
share this wonderful experience to make you more money.


****IMPORTANT****For FASTEST response

If you have previous e-mail contacts with opportunity seekers be sure to
send them a copy of this program. They can then pass it along to their
contacts and the whole process will move much faster.


Now You Can Have $7000 in 4 Weeks!!

Can't be true, You Say??

Believe Me, It's 100% True!!

Please Read to Find Out Why....

If you want to make a few thousand dollars weekly, then please take the
time to read this carefully and understand the Multi-Level Program I am
sharing with you. No, its not what you think! 

**You will not have to send $5 to five people for a report or a recipe,
or any other product; and then later invest more time and money to get
things going.

**NO SPONSORING OR MEETINGS
**NOTHING TO BUY, NO PRODUCTS
**NO PERSONAL CONTACT
**NOT MLM

I'll show you proof that it works!

First of all, there are only three levels, not four, five or six, like
other programs. This three level program is more realistic and much
faster to operate. The response rate for this program is very high!

Here's proof. The originator of this program regularly makes money with
it. It has worked very well for me EACH time that I have used it. Cindy
Allen ran this loan summation four times last year. The first time she
received $3000. in cash and over $7000 the last three times. When the
letter is continued as it should be, everyone profits!!

You only need 20 responses (not 200 or more as in other programs). You
should send this to people who send you their programs because you know
yours is better and faster. Even if you are already in a program, try
this one. It's simple, it only has these three pages to e-mail and it
is a very small investment compared to the other MLM programs that cost
you hundreds of dollars to get started.

Thanks for reading this far... Now here are the simple details!!!

Here is How it Works!

Just loan two persons Five Dollars each, that's all!!! Don't worry about
finance charges or repaying the money. After the first time, you'll see
how easy it is. And it does work! (it's like loaning to your relatives
who you know won't pay you back but you don't care because your
generosity always gets repaid.)

Follow What to Do on the next page and in two to four weeks you'll have 
at least $7000 because most people will respond due to the low investment and
high profit potential! Remember your fee is only ten dollars. 

What To Do:
READ AND FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS CAREFYLLY:

1. On a blank sheet of paper, write your name and address and the
words, "Here is your loan." Wrap the note around two five dollar bills. 
Send one to the first name on the list below and also one to the third 
name on the list below. Only the first person (#1) and the third person 
(#3) on the list gets your name and a $5.00 loan! (NOTE: loans are not 
counted as taxable income. When you receive your loans be sure to keep 
the notes for your tax records.)

2. Copy this whole file to use as a download file. Change the name and
address list only.

3. Remove the first person's name from the list

4. Move the other two names up one and,

5. Add your name and address to the list in the third position.

6. Advertise EVERYWHERE and when you get responses just send them this 
same letter with the changes that you have made with your name in the 
number three position.



List of Participants:


1.  S-bar-S 
    P.O. Box 1886
    Dillon  CO    80435

2.  T. Ellis
    16660 Montauk Rd.
    Apple Valley, CA 92307

3.  LTI
    8547 E. Arapahoe Rd. #J451
    Greenwood Village, CO 80112


Act Fast...Get Money Fast!!! 
This isn't "snail-mail" we are Online...

That is all there is to it. When your name reaches the first position
in a few days it will be your turn to collect your loans.

Honesty and integrity make this plan work! Be sure to copy this letter
entirely and omit nothing. At this time we are receiving an almost 75%
return from people participating in this plan. The majority receives
about $7000, so far.

This is not an illegal chain letter. You may wish to refer to Title 18,
section 1302 of the Postal and Lottery Code.


Remember: Cost - $10.00... Time- 12-30 Days... Value- $7000.00

Thank you and may you have a Prosperous 1997!!

Final Note: To succeed with this opportunity, please be sure to complete
all the steps above (including sending money to the proper recipient and
putting the other names and addresses in the proper sequence). Not
following the rules would stop the flow of prosperity. This is a team
effort.

Thank-you and God Bless

C. Lawson


SOME EASY PLACES TO ADVERTISE:

1Mall
Free classified ads for 14 days
http://www.1mall.com/classified/

A-Z Free Classifieds
Free Classified Ads for 1 month
...then $19 for 6 months..5 lines
http://www.freeclassifieds.com

Advertise It! Net Images Web Classifieds
http://www.netimages.com/classifieds.html

A.P.R.C. Classifieds
Free two-weeks classifeds and as low as $3.00 a month.
http://uran.net/aprc/d.html

Banana Pages Classifeds
Free 30 days ads
http://www.ebp.com/classifieds/

Dollar Ads
l week free ads, $1 a week thereafter
http://www.dollarads.com/

E-Junk Classifieds
3 month + free listing
http://www.eskimo.com/~pither/ejunk/entry.html

God's Free Classifeds
http://www.god.co.uk/text/addnad.html

Icemall Free Classifieds Links
Great site with dozens of links to FREE ads 
http://www.icemall.com/allabout/links.html

IF Classifieds
Free ads for 30 Days
http://www.infront.com/classad/class_act.html

Jetcity Free Ads Links
Another big free classified ads links
http://www.jetcity.com/~perfect/class.htm

NEWS GROUPS:
News: alt.business.multi-level 
News: biz.entrepreneurs

The EPages Internet Classifieds
Free classified advertising for private parties
http://ep.com/h/post.html

The Globe Free Ads
http://www.webgenesis.com/theglobe/

UC Classified
Free ad for 4 weeks
http://ucclassifieds.com/

UK Classified
100 character ad free
http://.traders.co.uk/traders/free_ads/fa_cats.htm

WorldPort Classifeds 
Free ad posting
http://www.bizclassifieds.com/

WWW Classifieds
Free ads, Personal and Commercial
http://www.fy.com/WC/misc.html

WWW Service Opportunities
Offer ads for 1 month
http://www.nitehawk.com/valuable/links.html

NOTE: You should also try searching the phrase "free classified ads" on
WWW.SEARCH.COM for many more great places to post ADS WHICH HAVE 
PRODUCED GOOD RESPONSES:

1. Would you spend $10 in order to receive $7000 in return in your mail
box?? Put "7,000" as Subject. Email XXXXXXXXX for FREE Information
NOW!!!

2. Could you use $7000 delivered to your mail box?? This is money that
you receive FREE No strings attached!! Put "7,000" as Subject. 
Email XXXXXXX for INFORMATION NOW!!!!

3. Very little effort will gain you $7000 or MORE delivered directly to
your mailbox in 15 to 30 days. This plan is IT. Put "7,000" as Subject. 
Email for FREE information NOW!!

Feel free to use these ads for the success you so richly deserve.

Your friend,

C. Lawson

P.S. Remember, any downline program is successful as long as you are
persistent. 
STICK WITH IT AND YOU WILL SUCCEED. If you quit the program before you 
receive 20 commitments, chances are you will not make as much as you 
possibly can. All it takes is one or two hours on the weekend (the best 
days to submit your free classified ad), and maybe two or three (at the 
most) weekends to build your downline. Stick with it and you will be 
successful!

************************************************************************

To use this text, just copy and paste all of the text here.
Save it to any notepad application you have and desire. That way you can
send and/or use it anywhere you wish. (i.e.: your own web page,
classified
ads, or e-mail). Also, don't forget to replace my name with yours at the 
"Thank You" and "Your Friend" sections of this text.


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Anyone,

I recently started receiving messages from someone (on another list) 
that 
contained MS-TNEF attachements.So please tell me how to download these 
files and to make the work, and also the software/plug-ins needed.

Regards & Thanks

subbu.

P.S :- my E-Mail address is " scomptek@hd1.vsnl.net.in"

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>> "su" == subbu uppus <subbu58@hotmail.com> writes:

su> Anyone, I recently started receiving messages from someone (on
su> another list) that contained MS-TNEF attachements.So please tell
su> me how to download these files 

They're in your mail, aren't they? *sigh* What do you think the word
"attachment" means?

su> and to make the work, 

They don't work.

su> and also the software/plug-ins needed.

A lobotomy or rat-poison.

Robin

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I want to create a forum same like this forum but In this forum
subscribed peoples just get the mail on daily basis / weekly basis/
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I think this work is based on CGI Scripting ( i have no idea of
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I also wants to send mail automatically by using mailto function in unix.

I am waiting for the +ve response .

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hi I've got a problem
I'd like to know is there any possibility to get lost messages from friday
14th nov.It's very important for me .I need an e-mail that came with it.
please write to me as soon as possible.
thanks


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>> "US" == Uzma Siddiqui <uzma@wavenet.cyber.net.pk> writes:

US> I want to create a forum same like this forum but In this forum
US> subscribed peoples just get the mail on daily basis / weekly
US> basis/ monthly basis.

listserv, majordomo, petitdomo would be programs of choice. Check
	<http://www.metacrawler.com>
to find them.

US> I think this work is based on CGI Scripting ( i have no idea of
US> CGI Scripting)

Obviously.

US> please if any body have the idea related to this (CGI/ Forum) or
US> have any address (either it may be mailing subcription address or
US> browsing address) forward to me as soon as possible.

This is the wrong forum for your question.

US> I also wants to send mail automatically by using mailto function
US> in unix.

Ummm... you sure?

Cheers,
Robin

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"World domination. Fast"
(Linus Torvalds)

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>> "GD" == Grzegorz Dargiewicz <gregoryd@art.olsztyn.pl> writes:

GD> hi I've got a problem I'd like to know is there any possibility to
GD> get lost messages from friday 14th nov.It's very important for me
GD> .I need an e-mail that came with it.  

What do you mean by "lost"? Have you checked your saved messages
folder? If they're not in there, you might want to consult your local
help desk, as they might have backups of your files.

Later,
Robin

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(Attributed to B.G., Gill Bates)

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On 17 Nov 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:

> >> "GD" == Grzegorz Dargiewicz <gregoryd@art.olsztyn.pl> writes:
> 
> GD> hi I've got a problem I'd like to know is there any possibility to
> GD> get lost messages from friday 14th nov.It's very important for me
> GD> .I need an e-mail that came with it.  
> 
> What do you mean by "lost"? Have you checked your saved messages
> folder? If they're not in there, you might want to consult your local
> help desk, as they might have backups of your files.
> 
> Later,
> Robin
> 
> -- 
> Robin S. Socha M.A.
> We are MicroSoft. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
> (Attributed to B.G., Gill Bates)
> 
thaks for that ;I'm going to check it
bye



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I am on a system at Mirror Lake Public Library that does not have .JPG
viewer capabilities. An email that was sent to me had a file with a  .JPG
file attached. I was wondering if there was a way that I can forward the
entire email with attachment to another email address? If so, could you
explain how?

Thank you in advance for your time.

Sincerely,

Dale
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Hi!  I was happy to find your posting on the Internet, regarding
the Millay Family in Surry, Maine, and their cottage industry,
making Christmas wreaths, to support their lucky protected children.

I would like to buy a wreath for my daughter and son-in-law from
the Millay Family, but cannot get an answer at 207-667-8331.  I tried
Maine information and that is the correct phone number, as you posted
it.

Do you know if the Millays are still offering their Christmas wreaths
for sale?  I would appreciate a response at your earliest convenience.
Want to have a wreath sent ASAP to my family and would like it to come
from the Millays if possible.
Thanks for your time and efforts, Lorraine

______________________________________________________
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>> "DD" == Dale Davis <sf2gyv@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> writes:

DD> I was wondering if there was a way that I can forward the entire
DD> email with attachment to another email address? If so, could you
DD> explain how?

Hit "F"

HTH,
Robin

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Subject: Re: your posting: Christmas wreaths
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>> "LG" == Lorraine Giaimo <lgiaimo@hotmail.com> writes:

LG> Hi!  I was happy to find your posting on the Internet, regarding the
LG> Millay Family in Surry, Maine, and their cottage industry, making
LG> Christmas wreaths, to support their lucky protected children.

Yeah, we can be kinda nice here...

LG> I would like to buy a wreath for my daughter and son-in-law from
LG> the Millay Family, but cannot get an answer at 207-667-8331.  I
LG> tried Maine information and that is the correct phone number, as
LG> you posted it.

Hmmm...

LG> Do you know if the Millays are still offering their Christmas
LG> wreaths for sale?  I would appreciate a response at your earliest
LG> convenience.  Want to have a wreath sent ASAP to my family and
LG> would like it to come from the Millays if possible.  Thanks for
LG> your time and efforts, Lorraine

My, my, Lorraine, seems you got the totally wrong address... This is
an email discussion forum for an Email User Agent called "pine". We do 
not sell anything.

Better luck next time,
Robin

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Pine is lumping all of my email messages into one big read only message.
I can't get my mail from Microsoft Exchange either.  I don't know what the
problem is.  Please Help.

Curtis


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>From: curtis ray cornwell <ccornwel@students.uiuc.edu>
>Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:32:34 -0600 (CST)

>Pine is lumping all of my email messages into one big read only message.
>I can't get my mail from Microsoft Exchange either.  I don't know what the
>problem is.  Please Help.

I read this on a mailing list, so it must be true. You are dealing with the
Forces of Evil when you use these servers:

The classically-minded among us may have noted a new TV ad for Microsoft's
Internet Explorer e-mail program which uses the musical theme of the
"Confutatis Maledictis" from Mozart's Requiem. 

"Where do you want to go today?" is the cheery line on the screen. Meanwhile,
the chorus sings "Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus addictis," which means
"The damned and accursed are convicted to flames of hell."



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Follow the following steps:


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After that, pine and exchange should retrieve the mail fine....

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On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, curtis ray cornwell wrote:

> Pine is lumping all of my email messages into one big read only message.
> I can't get my mail from Microsoft Exchange either.  I don't know what the
> problem is.  Please Help.
> 
> Curtis
> 


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I've been having trouble sending mail to people with compuserve addresses.
Did they go out of business, change their e-mail format.  example
"76212.2620@compuserve.com"
help,
Will


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Hi, I have a problem getting my new messages.  There is a message that
says there is a problem retrieving them from the spool.  I tried deleating
files to make more disk room and I tried the diskclean option, but
nothing happened either time. Can you help? Thanks, Sadie Bauer


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Hi all,
        I am interested in writing an offline mailer from a linux pc. I
would like to tell pine to redirect the mail replies to a file rather than
sendmail on my box. In fact I read that pine calls sendmail and the
files in /tmp get deleted later. Could this be stopped at this stage? Is
this possible?? 
Thanks
krishnan
 


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Hi all,
	I have pine at my local linux box and my ISP's sun server. The
feature of pine which gives mails without a CC field as prefixed by a + on
the inbox listing is available on my acount at my ISP. How do I get this
on my local box? I tried the config options and nothing seemed to match
this.
Thanks
krishnan


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How can I hide the addresses of my members in the cc ?
example :
To : rest@myus.chjd.net
CC : gdjkah@yfa.com, kkkd@mghre.net, ijfaj@mvgjdssa.com,
     hfkjajakj@jfgkjsakmdf.net

I want the CC  become :
To : rest@myus.chdj.net
CC : multiple recipients of Z Magazines

and when my members receive the mail they don't see the address of the
other members (exactly as the example above)


Thank you for your asistance


Bakhtiar


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from 'baytiytiyjannatiy with love
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Hi there,
I'm Gerald and I'm doing research about democracy in Thailand at the
Chulalongkorn University/Bangkok. My friends have sent me some pictures
from home and I would really like to see them. Unfortunately I haven't got
a clue how to do that. Is there somebody who could kindly help me? 
Thank You in advance for spending Your time with this problem
Best regards

G E R A L D

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From: BRIAN E NISONGER <axben@UAA.ALASKA.EDU>
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I guess that means Im supposed to answer since its from my state.  Well
what you need to do is save it and then FTP it to yourself.  If you have
question email me personally.  By the way this is a Frequently Asked
Question be glad I answered and spared you the wrath of the rest of us (
Ihave a soft spot for those from AK lemme alone okkk otherwize he be bait
for you all)  Laterz

Brian Nisonger
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> Hi, I have a problem getting my new messages.  There is a message that
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> nothing happened either time. Can you help? Thanks, Sadie Bauer
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Staff at Columbia can help.  The rest of this mailing list worldwide
cannot, no.  We'll check this tomorrow (Tuesday).

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HI bakhtiar,
	Yes you can. While composing, type ^R (ctrl R ). There is a field
called bcc (blind CC ) which does exactly what you want.
hope this helps
cheers!
krishnan

On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, bakhtiar wrote:

> 
> 
> How can I hide the addresses of my members in the cc ?
> example :
> To : rest@myus.chjd.net
> CC : gdjkah@yfa.com, kkkd@mghre.net, ijfaj@mvgjdssa.com,
>      hfkjajakj@jfgkjsakmdf.net
> 
> I want the CC  become :
> To : rest@myus.chdj.net
> CC : multiple recipients of Z Magazines
> 
> and when my members receive the mail they don't see the address of the
> other members (exactly as the example above)
> 
> 
> Thank you for your asistance
> 
> 
> Bakhtiar
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------
> from 'baytiytiyjannatiy with love
> -------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
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Greetings 
	I may be way off track here, but can anyone help me.
I have received a few videos via email and they require a Plug-in to
enable running under Netscape. Do you know (or can you find out) where
to download software for 
                        "Application/X-Lotus-Notes" type files?

	I thank anyone who can help

	regards
		Gary Taylor
		Auckland 
		New Zealand

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Save the attachments (pictures) to files; than use xv (Un*x) to view them
On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Guest wrote:

-> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 20:26:11 +0000 (WET)
-> From: Guest <atc!guest@ife-le.de>
-> To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@ife-le.de>
-> Subject: image-display, Bangkok
-> 
-> 
-> Hi there,
-> I'm Gerald and I'm doing research about democracy in Thailand at the
-> Chulalongkorn University/Bangkok. My friends have sent me some pictures
-> from home and I would really like to see them. Unfortunately I haven't got
-> a clue how to do that. Is there somebody who could kindly help me? 
-> Thank You in advance for spending Your time with this problem
-> Best regards
-> 
-> G E R A L D
-> 
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On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Guest wrote:

> I'm Gerald and I'm doing research about democracy in Thailand at the
> Chulalongkorn University/Bangkok. My friends have sent me some pictures
> from home and I would really like to see them. Unfortunately I haven't got
> a clue how to do that. Is there somebody who could kindly help me? 
> Thank You in advance for spending Your time with this problem

Rudolf gave you one idea.  Another would be to use NetScape or IE since
the images are JPEG format and both NetScape and IE have inline viewers.

BTW, it is generally bad form to set image files to mailing lists.  This
is especially true if you *don't* know what they may contain!

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> Subject: application/x-lotus-notes
> 
> Greetings 
> 	I may be way off track here, but can anyone help me.
> I have received a few videos via email and they require a Plug-in to
> enable running under Netscape. Do you know (or can you find out) where
> to download software for 
>                         "Application/X-Lotus-Notes" type files?

Uhm..  just a stab in the dark, but did you try www.lotus.com??

Pat



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Thanks, I didnt see that command at the bottom of my screen!

Sincerely,

Dale Davis
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Hello:

I have set up a FreeBSD mailserver running 2.2.2 FreeBSD.  I am running
POP3, Sendmail, and Pine 3.96 on that box.  I have MANY wyse50 & wyse60
terminals that connect to the mailserver.  When the wyse50 & wyse60
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If there is someone out there who may help to shed some light, it would be
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I have gotten remarried and I want my address and log on changed.  The
current name on there, Iarussi, is my ex's name and I really don't want
that one anymore.  I would like it changed to Cypher (me new last name.)
My log on and address are currently  "iarussis"
Thank you so much,
Shetye Cypher



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Dear sir or madam,
I want to know how we use 'pine' advancely.If you give me some advice and
the other e-mail addresses I'll be so happy.
                                                                              
       SINCERELY.


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On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Shetye S Iarussi wrote:

> I have gotten remarried and I want my address and log on changed.  The
> current name on there, Iarussi, is my ex's name and I really don't want
> that one anymore.  I would like it changed to Cypher (me new last name.)
> My log on and address are currently  "iarussis"

You need to talk to your system administrator.  Start off by sending your
email to "postmaster@tenet.edu"

Regards

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                                   Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
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>> "A2" == Apolet 2266 <h943329@kho.edu.tr> writes:

A2> Dear sir or madam, I want to know how we use 'pine' advancely.If
A2> you give me some advice and the other e-mail addresses I'll be so
A2> happy.

You'll find printable versions of the pine docs at:

	<http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/pine.html>

Shameless plug, but the docs might help }:->

Robin

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Microsoft spel chekar vor sail, worgs grate !!
(Felix von Leitner)

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        I've set the mail notification, but it seems it doesn't work. I
am running Pine 3.96 on a AIX 4.1.4 box, reading messages from a remote
POP3 server.
        The value of mail-check-interval is 60. ^L to and N keys don't
work, too. Is there anything else to set ?

Thanks in advance,
Carlos Hastenreiter.





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My 85 year old mother wants to change her last name back to her first 
marriage name (my father's).  What do we need to do to achieve this 
desire?  Do we need to go through a lawyer for this process?

Any help to this request would help.  Thanks.



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hi can you send me a program that will unmime
Thanks 
SKOLZ

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Hi,

	I have looked through the pine web site and archives, and I
haven't seen this, but perhaps I am just missing something.

	I have several "alt-addresses" defined in my 3.95 pine, under
solaris. Pine correctly identifies all messages to those addresses with
the little '+' in the index listing.

	So, is there a way I can use the select (;) command to select all
of those (ie, zoom in on them, to read them first).

	Sort of "reading the important mail before the junk mail" analogy
to "real mail".  (today's 400 e-mails, with 18 "to me" put me into a
"there's gotta be a better way" mode). 

	I _think_ I'm on the mailing list, but, please, reply directly
back to me at cayz@lib.de.us, and I'll summarize / post for others who
wish the same information.

	Thanks in Advance.

	James Cayz

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>From: James Cayz <cayz@lib.de.us>
>Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:22:47 -0500 (EST)

>	I have several "alt-addresses" defined in my 3.95 pine, under
>solaris. Pine correctly identifies all messages to those addresses with
>the little '+' in the index listing.

>	So, is there a way I can use the select (;) command to select all
>of those (ie, zoom in on them, to read them first).

select (;), text (t), to (t), [text-entry]

Do all of your addresses have something in common, like the same domain or
subdomain? Then, search for that string. Otherwise, you'll have to enter a
string from your first address, and use the "broaden" command

select (;), broaden (b), text (t), (t), [text-entry]

with each of your remaining addresses.

Otherwise, learn how to filter with procmail. But this list isn't the place to
discuss filtering. See:

<a href="http://www.ii.com/internet/faqs/launchers/mail/filtering-faq/">filtering FAQ</a>


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Dear Best Postmaster
and Pine Staff Member:


Could you please help me with the following:

Best ISP hosts my domain name, vitt@vitt.net, while my ISP account name is
fritz@best.com;  How can I get pine to display " vitt@vitt.net " as the
"reply to" address and suppress "fritz. "   Currently I have it configured
so that it reads reply to " fritz@vitt.net "  I would like it to read "
vitt@vitt.net but don't now what the configure commands are.

Thank You,
Scott Vitt


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hi !

i have several messages with octet-stream (base64 encoding)
attachments. I do not know how to read/open them.

please help.

thanks.

ode


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I've asked this before but pine seems rather restricted as to where it
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I have a shell script that builds a soft link on the fly and works well
but there must be a better way to do this...

Thanks

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I can't find a list of OS versions where pine builds correctly. A large
number are available via build but I've no idea which version this is
supposed to work at e.g.

i.e. pine builds on OS YYY but is that version 1  or 2 ?

Thanks

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>From: scott vitt <fritz@vitt.net>
>Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 00:43:13 -0800 (PST)

>How can I get pine to display " vitt@vitt.net " as the "reply to" address and
>suppress "fritz. " 

>From the main menu, s (select), c (configure)

Go to "customized-hdrs" and add "Reply-To: vitt@vitt.net", and read the
context-sensitive help for more information.


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>From: "Odelon Noel M. Zeta" <odezeta@mozcom.com>
>Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:07:25 -0800

>i have several messages with octet-stream (base64 encoding) attachments.

Likely, these are documents prepared with a word processor. Octet-stream is a
MIME header that means miscellaneous.

The best thing you can do is to send a message to your correspondents
requesting that they save the output of their word processors as plain text,
formatted with no more than 78 characters per line in a fixed font. This way,
all proprietary encoding is removed and the message can be displayed on any
common terminal emulation.

Unless you know your recipient has the identical tools that you have, it is
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I am trying to figure out how to send some notes out to my sister in law
who runs a charter boat and is currently in Venezuela, West Indies.  I
would like to leave some messages at hotels around that area but have
not figured out how to do it. Help!> This is one of many messages in the
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> Hello,
>       Does anybody knows how can I send a message to many people ( about 80
> different address ) ? I have a distribution list on my address book ( Pine
> 3.91, running under RS6000 ) with maybe 80 persons, and when I try to send
> it a message Pine only send about 66, I don't know if this is a
> restriction or there are a better way to do that. Suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
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I have some MSWord files included as part of the body of an email I have
recieved. I want to, ultimately, convert these to html and am considering
the rtftohtml package, but I want to get the attachments out of the email 
first. Any one help. I'm working on Sparc and Linux machines.

PS. I've spent an unfruitful hour studying the archives of this list and
pine FAQ's...

Ed



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>> "ED" == Ed Down <E.M.Down@city.ac.uk> writes:

ED> I have some MSWord files included as part of the body of an
ED> email I have recieved. I want to, ultimately, convert these to
ED> html and am considering the rtftohtml package, but I want to get
ED> the attachments out of the email first. Any one help.

Save to file, install Applix Office or Star Office, open, convert,
done.

So much for theory... Better: have the person resend the mail as rtf
or html, or even ascii - that'll be much quicker. Otherwise, there's
always trusty old "strings" and a couple of word2something converters,
only one of which I've more or less successfully used. I don't have
www access right now, but I've put a couple of converter links on a
page of my LUG (it's German, so it might be "Konverter"):

     <bolug.uni-bonn.de/linux.bonn.xemacs.html>

or go to CTAN directly.

ED> I'm working on Sparc and Linux machines.

Good ;-)

Later,
Robin

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>From: Ed Down <E.M.Down@city.ac.uk>
>Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:50:48 +0000 (GMT)

>I have some MSWord files included as part of the body of an email I have
>recieved. I want to, ultimately, convert these to html and am considering
>the rtftohtml package, but I want to get the attachments out of the email 
>first. Any one help. I'm working on Sparc and Linux machines.

While reading the message, use the v (view) command to get an index of all
attachments. (Many plain text attachments can be viewed.)

Choose the attachment you want to save, and s (save) to a file. If it is
already named, you can keep the original name.

Attachments can also be piped to other processes.


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The tiger mail box of mine is getting all screwed up. There is saying
there is an error in opening files,saving them and when people try to
write me it screws up. Error opening it says and with other things in
files says cannotopen. Why my friends on the same cpu works fine?

-help
????


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Dear Pine Staff:

I would appreciate your help with the following:

thank you/

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 02:36:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Best Internet Support <support@best.com>
To: scott vitt <fritz@vitt.net>
Subject: Re: Pine Question: how do I configure Pine so that the "reply to" address uses my domain address - please read below:


  Scott,

   I am not too familar with the pine configuration, but I think that it
  takes the name from the user that is using it.  You will probably get
  a better answer from the pine people though.

  Regards,

  Mike

On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, scott vitt wrote:

> 
> 
> Dear Best Postmaster
> and Pine Staff Member:
> 
> 
> Could you please help me with the following:
> 
> Best ISP hosts my domain name, vitt@vitt.net, while my ISP account name is
> fritz@best.com;  How can I get pine to display " vitt@vitt.net " as the
> "reply to" address and suppress "fritz. "   Currently I have it configured
> so that it reads reply to " fritz@vitt.net "  I would like it to read "
> vitt@vitt.net but don't now what the configure commands are.
> 
> Thank You,
> Scott Vitt
> 
> 

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Hi, everyone! Had a few questions about pine.  I've just been trying to
learn it and have just joined the list.  One question I have is when you
sort it by ordersubj in the configuration menu, when you get new mail it
will only put it in your in-box after getting 3 new messages or two  Why
is this/  Is there a way to fix it? I'm using version 3.95.  Another
question I have is does pine use word wrap?  You can either write to me
privately or on the list.  thanks!


Rebecca and Abra



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Hi, everyone! just forgot to ask one question.  In teh replying to a
message menu, what are the several options? like reply to all recipients,
reply to the from address or too address or whatever it says?  If you are
on a mailing list, how do you reply to the list?  Which option do you use?
Thanks!


Rebecca and Abra



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>From: Rebecca and Abra <r542254i@edinboro.edu>
>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:52:32 -0500 (EST)

>In teh replying to a message menu, what are the several options? like reply to
>all recipients, reply to the from address or too address or whatever it says? 
>If you are on a mailing list, how do you reply to the list?  Which option do
>you use?

It depends.

If you are replying to a message that has a Reply-To header in it, pine will
give you a choice of using it or the From header. If you reply, and your name
is not in the To header, pine will ask if you want to reply to all recipients.
There are other variations when the Cc header exists.

Sometimes, it's not obvious to me which choice to use. If I wish to reply on
list, instead of only to the original author, I must make sure that the mailing
list submission address is in the To header. If it's not, I cancel the message,
and make the other choice.

When I send a reply to this mailing list, I choose "reply to all", but then I
must cut the original author's name, and cut and paste the Pine-Info from the
Cc header to the To header. I do the extra step as some MXs dislike messages
without To headers, and it's neater. For all I know, sendmail might create the
To header for me automatically if it's blank.


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I have reached The E-mail robot at Washington before about 90 days.
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Hi,
   I am Nagraj Rao from Bangalore,India I have been trying to configure 
Microsoft Exchange.The setup/configuration seems to be OK.
Since our domain name is in the process of getting registered ,I am 
configuring everything using IP addresses.
The problem now is that I can only send mails using the MS Exchange
Server (nagraj@202.54.37.155),
but if anyone tries to reply back they get a "Host UnKnown" message from 
their SMTP servers.I donot understand as to what would be wrong is it 
that mu SMTP server is not properly configured or what?

I would be very happy if you could throw some light in to this.
Anxiously Waiting for your reply
Nagraj Rao
S/W Engg
Wisdom Information Consultants
Bangalore
India

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On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, rao nagraj wrote:

>    I am Nagraj Rao from Bangalore,India I have been trying to configure 
> Microsoft Exchange.The setup/configuration seems to be OK.
> Since our domain name is in the process of getting registered ,I am 
> configuring everything using IP addresses.
> The problem now is that I can only send mails using the MS Exchange
> Server (nagraj@202.54.37.155),
> but if anyone tries to reply back they get a "Host UnKnown" message from 
> their SMTP servers.I donot understand as to what would be wrong is it 
> that mu SMTP server is not properly configured or what?
> 

The problem is that 202.54.37.155 is not a valid hostname.  It would be
what is called a "domain literal".  (Read RFC822 to learn more about
"domain literals".)

In order to have any chance for folks to reply to this you need the
address to be specified as <nagraj@[202.54.37.155]>.  However, be advised
that this may or may not work on some individual's systems.

Best to wait for your domainname to become valid in the DNS.

-- 
Edward M. Greshko                  Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce
                                   Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
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 I want information haw to use PINE





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On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Lucian Niculescu (IX D) wrote:

:=
:= I want information haw to use PINE

When you start up pine, there's a menu option to get help on how to use
pine.  Just press the '?'.

It's amazing what you can learn when you actually take the time to look at
the program and read the friggin instructions.  And in case you think I'm
being harsh, I'm almost completely overlooking the obvious typo in the
preceding message.

--
Dylan Northrup <*> 
northrup@nwe.ufl.edu <*> 
http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~northrup <*>

---------------
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  bones, a new beginning and end I cannot say.  We are surrounded by 
  Signs and Portents and I feel a great darkness pressing on out 
  backs."
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>>>>> "Petr" =3D=3D Petr Novotny <root@hop.hk.ds.mfcr.cz> writes:

    Petr> 	Novotn=FD Petr - Ho=F8ice

I love MULE.

Matt

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Please advise how and where I might acquire (buy) a BASE64 decoding to
add to my Windows 95, Netscape, e-mail software. I've received an
important document via international e-mail with instructions to
download the BASE64 format. 
Bernard Robinson
amalie@earthlink.net

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I've had trouble with this blasted email account ever since the power
outage.  I use an account on the internet now, but I'd really like to make
use of my technology fee here at Western.  Since the up and running Titan
took over, I have tried to access my account three times.  Each time I
open my Inbox, it says:

"file is not in valid inbox format"

Could someone please help me figure this out?  As far as I know, I can
send messages, but I know I cannot receive any.  Thank you.  

Lindsay


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I just sent a message regarding my Titan account at Western. Since my
account does not receive messages, I should probably give you an address
at which you can reach me:  lindsay2@hotmail.com  Thanks again.


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I'm having difficulty with a message I received from a friend labeled
"Just for fun."  It apparently is a game of sorts and our system at
Western Maryland College can not handle its configurations (or whatever
you call it).  I tried different stuff, which I probably should not have
done.  I first saved the message than thought I could append (?) it to
open the message.  Now every time I open up my email I get the same
message dated Nov 17th (today I recieved three times (Nov 20th)).  Is this
some kind of bug or did I just royally screw my system up.

	Thanks - Cameron Chesnik


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Where can we find binhex conversion utilities for unix solaris 2.*
we have the mcvert but it dosnt work at all, Any recomendation
or pointers please reply to me. dita@cs.technion.ac.il

THanks in advance Dita. J.

<system engineer at CS technion>

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On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, rao nagraj wrote:

> Hi,
>    I am Nagraj Rao from Bangalore,India I have been trying to configure 
> Microsoft Exchange.The setup/configuration seems to be OK.
> Since our domain name is in the process of getting registered ,I am 
> configuring everything using IP addresses.
> The problem now is that I can only send mails using the MS Exchange
> Server (nagraj@202.54.37.155),
> but if anyone tries to reply back they get a "Host UnKnown" message from 
> their SMTP servers.I donot understand as to what would be wrong is it 
> that mu SMTP server is not properly configured or what?
> 
> I would be very happy if you could throw some light in to this.
> Anxiously Waiting for your reply

Almost smtp server using sendmail as their MTA, and sendmail only now
FQDN.
Just wait for your Domain Name.

BTW:
I think you send to wrong disc-forum, try to ask bill gates to solve your
problem, or change your server using linux (or other unix) box, to get
stable email system.
I just change my "stupid" MSMAIL server with linux+sendmail+ipop3+imap4.

regard's


SI-POER
 


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i'm trying to get info about how to do email attachments effectively for
a class & my team and myself are not coming up with much information.
can you help by giving us sources we can search?


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What would be the process to have your name
restored to original Birth Name?
If it was changed during early childhood?
Please reply to email for legal procedure .
THANKS
Rita


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On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Rita G. Atchison wrote:

>What would be the process to have your name
>restored to original Birth Name?
>If it was changed during early childhood?
>Please reply to email for legal procedure .
>THANKS
>Rita

What is it about this list that brings out the 'name change' people?

    Shawn Jeffries
    shawn_jeffries@vetri.com


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Well I would recommend :





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On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Daniel Gonzalez Gasull wrote:

> 
> 
> 


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I just installed PC-Pine to a computer, and I am able to receive
messages (I received the welcome from Washington U.), but I can't seem
to use the compose command.  The error message I get is "Can't send
message without an open remote folder".  I tried changing the
smtp=server line in the configuration to "localhost", as suggested in
the release notes, but this didn't help.



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I have twice received an e-mail  photo attachment which is has 
been encoded as per above (Octet-stream, base64). Can anyone please 
enlighten me as to how this can be deciphered for displaying. Thankyou.

regards
Bob Gray

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When I go to Main Menu to change password, as directed, enter "O", then 
"P", I keep getting the previous message, not "Password".  What am I doing
wrong?

Also, when will the next Pine edition be available.  Is it true it will 
work with a POP E-mail provider?  

Thanks for getting back to me.

						John Lowry


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Hi,

I'm runnig pine on a Sun Solaris (SunOS 5.4). Pine is not installed
system-wide, so I installed it in my home-directory. 
When I start it, I get the message:

ld.so.1: pine: warning: /usr/4lib/libc.so.1.8 has older revision than
expected 9

Everytime I send a message, Pine aborts saying:

Problem detected: "Received abort signal".
Pine Exiting.
Floating exception (core dumped)

(but sending the mail).

What is wrong here, and what can I do? The systems's manager is not
cooperative, and says they wouldn't support Pine!!!

Thank you, Jo

Please send any answer to me directly, since I haven't subscribed to the
list.




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Hi i was just wondering why all of my inbox messages might have gotten
erased.  I opended my email today and it said inbox opened with 5 messages
when I had a lot more than that, and now they are gone!  What happened?
Kati Krajewski



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From: "Kwan F. Cheung" <eekwan@u.washington.edu>
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Subject: optical mouse for PC for sale
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Hi, IBM PC users,

If you think your ball mouse is OK'd except:

1. the mouse ball and the capstan require cleaning away from dust from
time to time.

2. the mouse requires a fairy good mouse-pad for strolling.

3. the mouse requires the user to drag-and-bounce the mouse for large
scale movement. And thus requires the lift-up of wrist and arm for mouse
movement. It can strain the wrist after long hour using.

4. the mouse requires the user to manually tune the mouse speed once the
screen resolution is changed.

5. it'd be nice if the mouse has page schrolling function. And it'd be
more convenient if the schroll speed can be adjusted during schrolling.



THEN... you should visit my homepage at 
           http://members.aol.com/joy2switch/index.html

and learn about the WinPoint mouse: 100% optical, smallest footprint,
and very friendly to your wrist.

Retail or wholesale is welcome.

Regards,

-Kwan Cheung,Joy Switch Company, Seattle-

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:54:42 -0500 (EST)
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To: amber aallen <aja1@keene.edu>, katie Tracanna <track6l0@numen.elon.edu>,
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>From horowi64@matrix.newpaltz.edu Sun Nov 23 15:15:25 1997
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        kirstin lemme <lemme47@matrix.newpaltz.edu>,
        tanya saverick <saveri75@matrix.newpaltz.edu>,
        adele goldberg <goldbe98@matrix.newpaltz.edu>,
        alexandre acey <acey99@matrix.newpaltz.edu>,
        Monica Goldberg <ST963356@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>,
        Joseph Jamal <camel@jhu.edu>, John Ramsey <jramsey1@email.unc.edu>,
        Jonathan Somma <sommaj@lafvax.lafayette.edu>,
        Red Cliff <horowitz@hal.muhlberg.edu>, white@muhlberg.edu,
        KellyAnn Harkins <keh3@lehigh.edu>,
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:13:32 -0500
From: Brian Granata <roccio@frontiernet.net>
To: Wes Love <WLOVE1000@aol.com>, Tara Lown <tlown@eagle.ycp.edu>,
    Nicole Toto <ntoto@rs01.kings.edu>,
    Melissa Cardinal <witerook@warwick.net>,
    Josh Parker <parker94@matrix.newpaltz.edu>,
    Jenn Lichtler <jmlichtler@mail.utexas.edu>,
    Chris Cuneo <chris.cuneo@mailexcite.com>,
    Becky Valk <kzkp@maristb.marist.edu>,
    Arlette Kopp <kopp@genius.rider.edu>
Subject: Fw: [VIRUS ALERT] (fwd)


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian A. Granata <granatab@union.edu>
To: roccio@frontiernet.net <roccio@frontiernet.net>
Date: Sunday, November 23, 1997 12:02 AM
Subject: [VIRUS ALERT] (fwd)


>
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:24:07 -0500 (EST)
>From: PHARMDOC3@aol.com
>To: MIRROR4HIM@aol.com, MYTEEGOD@aol.com, CSmith0216@aol.com,
>    granatab@union.edu, jennielea@ipass.net
>Subject: [VIRUS ALERT]
>
>While I have not come across any virus programs via e-mail that will
>erase your hard drive, that doesn't mean it cannot be done who has the
>knowledge, so please read the following with that in mind. - Jim
>
>     Please read this virus alert:
>     _______________________________________________________
>
>
>     << WARNING!!!!!!! - 3 Virus Below - This information was received
>from
>     IBM, please share it with anyone that might access the internet.
>
>     1. ***********************
>        If you receive an e-mail titled "JOIN THE  CREW" DO NOT  open
>it.
>     It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive. Send this letter out
>to
>     as many people you can.......this is a new virus and not many
>people
>     know about it.
>
>     2. ***********************
>        Also, If anyone receives mail entitled; PENPAL GREETINGS, please
>
>     delete it WITHOUT reading it. This is a warning for all Internet
>users
>     there is a dangerous virus propagating across the Internet through
>an
>     e-mail message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS".
>
>        DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GREETINGS"  This
>     message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are
>     interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is
>
>     too late. The "trojan horse" virus will have already infected the
>boot
>     sector of your hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It
>is
>     as self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will
>     AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is
>present
>     in YOUR mailbox.
>
>        This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds the potential
>to
>     DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your in box, and
>     who's mail is in their in box and so on.  If this virus keeps
>getting
>     passed, it has the potential to do a great deal of DAMAGE to
>computer
>     networks  worldwide.
>
>        Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS" as soon
>as
>     you see it.  And pass this message along to all of your friends,
>     relatives and the other readers of the newsgroups and mailing lists
>
>     which you are on so that they are not hurt by this dangerous virus,
>
>     please pass this  along to everyone you know so this can be
>stopped.
>
>     3. ***********************
>        There is a new virus going around in the last couple of days. DO
>
>     NOT open or even look at any mail that you get that says:
>"Returned
>     or Unable to Deliver" This virus will attach itself to your
>computer
>     components and render them useless. Immediately delete any mail
>items
>     that says this. AOL has said this is a very dangerous virus, and
>there
>     is NO remedy for it at this time, Please Be Careful, And forward to
>
>     all your on-line friends A.S.A.P. Forward this A.S.A.P. to every
>     single person you know.
>
>
>






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On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, A.U.G. Signals Ltd. wrote:

> I just installed PC-Pine to a computer, and I am able to receive
> messages (I received the welcome from Washington U.), but I can't seem
> to use the compose command.  The error message I get is "Can't send
> message without an open remote folder".  I tried changing the
> smtp=server line in the configuration to "localhost", as suggested in
> the release notes, but this didn't help.
> 
> 
> 

I have used PC-Pine for more than two years, but never seen your error
message. 

My best guess from the text is, that you want to save your outgoing E-mail
(Fcc) on a remote server, but mis some configuration.

If you don't get any qualified answers, drop me a mail, and I am willing
to send a copy of my configuration on the PC,  pinerc.



Regards

Lars Scheffmann,  Network Adm.            E-Mail: scheffmann@dou.dk
Dept. of Academic Information Technology  Phone:  +45 6615 8600 ext.2867
DOU,  Odense University                   Direct: +45 6557 2867
Niels Bohrs Alle 11,  5230  Odense M      Fax:    +45 6612 3366


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I have this same problem. Has any one come up with a fix yet??????

Thanks Marty Everett

	----------
	From:  Carlos Hastenreiter[SMTP:carlosh@tupy.com.br]
	Sent:  Tuesday, November 18, 1997 2:07 PM
	To:  Pine Discussion Forum
	Subject:  Mail notification.

	        I've set the mail notification, but it seems it doesn't
work. I
	am running Pine 3.96 on a AIX 4.1.4 box, reading messages from a
remote
	POP3 server.
	        The value of mail-check-interval is 60. ^L to and N keys
don't
	work, too. Is there anything else to set ?

	Thanks in advance,
	Carlos Hastenreiter.



	

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On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Johannes Walcher wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm runnig pine on a Sun Solaris (SunOS 5.4). Pine is not installed
> system-wide, so I installed it in my home-directory. 
> When I start it, I get the message:
> 
> ld.so.1: pine: warning: /usr/4lib/libc.so.1.8 has older revision than
> expected 9
> 

How did you install pine?  The error you're getting is an indication that
the application is finding a different library at runtime than it was
compiled with.  This would indicate that you probably installed a binary
image instead of compiling the source.  If you didn't compile it from
source, I would recommend you do that, it isn't difficult. 

======================================================================
Steve Witt                                              (714) 730-3245
PairGain Technologies, Inc.


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To whom it may concern:
	I have recently received an e-mail message from someone who is not
familiar.  I have received two messages from this person already and I
believe that there is something wrong with the address that this person is
sending the e-mail messages too. I am not sure how to redirect this
problem of receiving somebody else's mail. Should I change my e-mail
address? I hope you can clear this up for me. 
	Thanks.

--christine albino


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>> "ca" == christine albino <christine.albino@utoronto.ca> writes:

ca> To whom it may concern: I have recently received an e-mail message
ca> from someone who is not familiar.  I have received two messages
ca> from this person already and I believe that there is something
ca> wrong with the address that this person is sending the e-mail
ca> messages too. I am not sure how to redirect this problem of
ca> receiving somebody else's mail. Should I change my e-mail address?
ca> I hope you can clear this up for me.  Thanks.

You gotta talk to your local help desk or Internet Service Provider -
I'm afraid we won't be much help here.

Cheers,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Running Windows on a Pentium is like having a brand new Porsche but
only be able to drive backwards with the handbrake on.

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I HAVE A QUESTION. MY MESSAGES KEEP COMING UP DELETED. I AM NOT DOING IT.
HOW DO I FIND OUT WHO IS DOING IT AND HOW DO I MAKE IT STOP? NO ONE KNOWS
MY PASSWORD B/C I CHANGED IT AGAIN A FEW DAYS AGO. ANOTHER PROBLEM,
SOMEONE ON THIS CAMPUS (BETHUNE-COOKMAN COLLEGE-DAYTONA BEACH, FL.) IS
GETTING INTO PEOPLE'S EMAIL AND FORWARDING THEIR MESSAGES TO OTHER PEOPLE.
HOW DO YOU FIND OUT WHO IS DOING THAT B/C THERE IS NO RETURN ADDRESS ON
THE MAIL BEING FORWARDED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I'LL BE WAITING FOR
YOUR RESPONSE.


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There is a bug in my address book and it won't allow me to add new
addresses to my book.  What do I do?? 
				Thank - you
				Susan Lyrla


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G'day folks

Does anyone know, aside from rebuilding the program, how I can disable
control-s from freezing pico?

Thanks

Peter J Unmack 			peter.unmack@asu.edu
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DESERT FISHES RULE: To boldly thrive where no other fish can make it!

Australian desert fishes pages at ozdesertfish.base.org (don't forget to 
visit the Desert Fishes Council pages too)
Native Fish Australia pages at www.nativefish.asn.au
North American Native Fishes Association at www.nanfa.org 



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 Hello, this is Kwon, Do-hun. I'm interesting in your university, but I'm
not MBA course student. I am a undergraduate course student. I just got
this, graduate course address. So I hope you can send me academic address
or please send me the information of your academic university and
admission for undergraduate course. Now I am studying in Ashland
University in OHIO. Actually I will transfer from South Korea. Because I
just finished freshman in yeungnam university in Korea. Now my major is
Computer science, so I would like to get the information of computer
science or other computer field major in your university. And I also
wonder whether I can transfer my credits from Korea and Ashland
University, and what I need to prepare for transfering to your university.
So, please if you don't mind, send me whole of the information which I
mentioned the upper part( about under-graduate course.) I really am
interesting in your university. Please let me know your university.
I hope I take a good news from you.
Have a nive day.

Sincerely

Kwon,Do-Hun

This is my address:
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#1955 Ashland University-
Ashland OH 44805        -
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Hello how can i activate the vacation message in Pine?

Thank you,
Luba.

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>>>>> "LM" == Luba Marshalkina <luba@armory.com> writes:

Hi,

 LM> Hello how can i activate the vacation message in Pine?

what about 'man vacation'?


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Cute signature, really :-/

l8er, norbert.

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ok i did man vacation before i mailed, first: not on all UNIX machines
this option is installed and second even if it's installed i have to have
empty /var/mai/<username> file
I'm trying to  find a way to use vacation without deleting all msgs i
already have

Luba.

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>> "p" == peter  <peter@fish.la.asu.edu> writes:

p> G'day folks Does anyone know, aside from rebuilding the program,
p> how I can disable control-s from freezing pico?

By reading an introduction to Unix or - better - reading "man
bash". C-s toggles scroll lock.

Robin

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"We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds."
(Linus Torvalds)

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From: "Robin S. Socha" <r.socha@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de>
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Subject: Re: vacation msg
In-Reply-To: Luba Marshalkina's message of "Mon, 24 Nov 1997 22:45:28 -0800 (PST)"
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>> Regarding Re: vacation msg; Luba Marshalkina <luba@armory.com>
>> adds: 

LM> ok i did man vacation before i mailed, first: not on all UNIX
LM> machines this option is installed and second even if it's
LM> installed i have to have empty /var/mai/<username> file I'm
LM> trying to find a way to use vacation without deleting all msgs
LM> i already have

Are we talking about the same vacation program? Since this is a faq,
I'll just include the important part of the man page. Read it and see
if it says "delete all your old mail". BTW, vacation can be installed
locally, too, so you can grab it from your favourite ftp server.

Robin

VACATION(1)                                           VACATION(1)
NAME
       vacation - reply to mail automatically
SYNOPSIS
       vacation [ -I | -i ]
       vacation  [ -j ] [ -a alias ] [ -tN ] [ -r ] [ -?  ] user
       name
DESCRIPTION
       vacation automatically  replies  to  incoming  mail.   The
       reply  is contained in the file .vacation.msg in your home
       directory.  The vacation program  run  interactively  will
       create  a .vacation.msg file for you (which you may edit).
       Type vacation with no arguments.  (See USAGE below.)
       For example, the message created by vacation is:
              Subject: away from my mail
              From:  smith (via the vacation program)
              I will not be reading my mail for a while. Your
              mail regarding "$SUBJECT" will be
              read when I return.
       The .vacation.msg file should include  a  header  with  at
       least  a  'Subject:'  line  (it should not contain a 'To:'
       line and need not contain a 'From:' line, since these  are
       generated automatically).
       The  fields  'From', 'From:' and 'Reply-To:' are evaluated
[...]
USAGE
       To start vacation, create a .forward  file  in  your  home
       directory containing a line of the form:
              \username, "|/usr/ucb/vacation username"
       where username is your login name.
       Then type in the command:
              vacation -I
       To  stop vacation, remove the .forward file, or move it to
       a new name.
       If vacation is run with no arguments, it will create a new
       .vacation.msg  file for you, using the editor specified by
       the VISUAL or EDITOR environment  variable,  or  vi(1)  if
       neither  of  those  environment  variables  are set.  If a
       .forward file is not present in your  home  directory,  it
       creates it for you, and automatically performs a 'vacation
       -I' function, turning on vacation.
FILES
       $HOME/.forward
       $HOME/.vacation.msg

       A list of senders is kept in the file .vacation.db in your
       home directory.

LM> Luba.

LM> ######################################################
LM> ########   E-Mail: luba@deeptht.armory.com ########
[...]
LM> ######################################################

Nice signature...

Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody. It doesn't generate revenue.
(Dave '-ddt->` Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux)

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Hi,

My friend (Pine 3.96, Solaris) gets HIS machine name in the TO:   adress .
How this can be avoided?



Thanks,

Yossi

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My printer will print my word processed letter, but in pine it won't print
from the Y command. Whattsamatta? Don


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Scheesh! PENPAL GREETINGS is a _very_ old hoax.
I hope you weren't taken in by this silly old thing.

THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET A VIRUS IS BY RUNNING INFECTED CODE!

But do remember, when you open a MS-Word-6 document you automatically 
run any "autoexec" macro in the document so don't open an _attached_
MS document unless your sure about it.

-- 
Rob.                           (Robert de Bath <http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayday)
                                                 <http://poboxes.com/rdebath

... Rot13'ed to confound the hard of thinking ...

> Cyrnfr ernq guvf ivehf nyreg:
> _______________________________________________________ 
> 
> << JNEAVAT!!!!!!! - 3 Ivehf Orybj - Guvf vasbezngvba jnf erprvirq sebz
> VOZ, cyrnfr funer vg jvgu nalbar gung zvtug npprff gur vagrearg. 
> 1. ***********************
>    Vs lbh erprvir na r-znvy gvgyrq "WBVA GUR  PERJ" QB ABG  bcra vg.
> Vg jvyy renfr RIRELGUVAT ba lbhe uneq qevir. Fraq guvf yrggre bhg gb
> nf znal crbcyr lbh pna.......guvf vf n arj ivehf naq abg znal crbcyr
> xabj nobhg vg.
> 
> 2. ***********************
>    Nyfb, Vs nalbar erprvirf znvy ragvgyrq; CRACNY TERRGVATF, cyrnfr 
> qryrgr vg JVGUBHG ernqvat vg. Guvf vf n jneavat sbe nyy Vagrearg hfref
> gurer vf n qnatrebhf ivehf cebcntngvat npebff gur Vagrearg guebhtu na
> r-znvy zrffntr ragvgyrq "CRACNY TERRGVATF".
> 
>    QB ABG QBJAYBNQ NAL ZRFFNTR RAGVGYRQ "CRACNY TERRGVATF"  Guvf
> zrffntr nccrnef gb or n sevraqyl yrggre nfxvat lbh vs lbh ner
> vagrerfgrq va n cracny, ohg ol gur gvzr lbh ernq guvf yrggre, vg vf 
> gbb yngr. Gur "gebwna ubefr" ivehf jvyy unir nyernql vasrpgrq gur obbg
> frpgbe bs lbhe uneq qevir, qrfgeblvat nyy bs gur qngn cerfrag. Vg vf
> nf frys-ercyvpngvat ivehf, naq bapr gur zrffntr vf ernq, vg jvyy
> NHGBZNGVPNYYL sbejneq vgfrys gb nalbar jub'f r-znvy nqqerff vf cerfrag
> va LBHE znvyobk.
> 
>    Guvf ivehf jvyy QRFGEBL lbhe uneq qevir, naq ubyqf gur cbgragvny gb
> QRFGEBL gur uneq qevir bs nalbar jubfr znvy vf va lbhe va obk, naq
> jub'f znvy vf va gurve va obk naq fb ba.  Vs guvf ivehf xrrcf trggvat
> cnffrq, vg unf gur cbgragvny gb qb n terng qrny bs QNZNTR gb pbzchgre
> argjbexf  jbeyqjvqr.
> 
>    Cyrnfr, qryrgr gur zrffntr ragvgyrq "CRACNY TERRGVATF" nf fbba nf
> lbh frr vg.  Naq cnff guvf zrffntr nybat gb nyy bs lbhe sevraqf,
> eryngvirf naq gur bgure ernqref bs gur arjftebhcf naq znvyvat yvfgf 
> juvpu lbh ner ba fb gung gurl ner abg uheg ol guvf qnatrebhf ivehf, 
> cyrnfr cnff guvf  nybat gb rirelbar lbh xabj fb guvf pna or fgbccrq.
> 
> 3. ***********************
>    Gurer vf n arj ivehf tbvat nebhaq va gur ynfg pbhcyr bs qnlf. QB 
> ABG bcra be rira ybbx ng nal znvy gung lbh trg gung fnlf: "Erghearq
> be Hanoyr gb Qryvire" Guvf ivehf jvyy nggnpu vgfrys gb lbhe pbzchgre
> pbzcbaragf naq eraqre gurz hfryrff. Vzzrqvngryl qryrgr nal znvy vgrzf
> gung fnlf guvf. NBY unf fnvq guvf vf n irel qnatrebhf ivehf, naq gurer
> vf AB erzrql sbe vg ng guvf gvzr, Cyrnfr Or Pnershy, Naq sbejneq gb 
> nyy lbhe ba-yvar sevraqf N.F.N.C. Sbejneq guvf N.F.N.C. gb rirel
> fvatyr crefba lbh xabj.


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>>>>> "DEM" == Donald E Moser <dmoser@zoo.uvm.edu> writes:

 DEM> My printer will print my word processed letter, but in pine it
 DEM> won't print from the Y command. Whattsamatta? Don

Hi,

what do you mean by 'word processed'? Is it word like in MS Word? In
this case, imo, you should write a filter text/plain -> word/processed. 

If your printer is able to handle ps output and you are running a Unix
machine try something like a2ps (that's 'man a2ps' and follow the
instructions). Sorry, no information about NT systems (apart from using
ghostscript that is) :-]

l8er, norbert.

-- 
Norbert Koch
a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing!

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Subject: Re: HOAX (Fw: [VIRUS ALERT] (fwd))
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>> "RdB" == Robert de Bath <robert@mayday.cix.co.uk> writes:

RdB> THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET A VIRUS IS BY RUNNING INFECTED CODE!

Yeah, and it's usually called setup.exe and resides under
c:\windows... 

RdB> But do remember, when you open a MS-Word-6 document you automatically
RdB> run any "autoexec" macro in the document so don't open an _attached_
RdB> MS document unless your sure about it.

Not true. You can turn off that "feature" somewhere, i.e. prevent
Wankword from launching startup macros. You can also run
mime-sweeper. Or you could do something to get rid of viruses
altogether and install Linux.

Robin - MS-exorzist

-- 
Robin S. Socha M.A.
Why use Windows, since there is a door?

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	I just recieved a bug report. I'm not sure what to do. Is there a
way to get rid of the bug?      Please reply soon.  CCN




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I will apreciate if you can hep me in reading some news which are
published in your dailies.I also apreciate if you can introduce me to some
good friends.GOOD BYE. 


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The Pine-Info archives in HTML format now do have a FORM-based search input
page, at: 

	http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/Search.html

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  Stefan Kramer                   skramer@cac.washington.edu
  PINE Information Center    http://www.washington.edu/pine/
  Computing & Communications        University of Washington    
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	When you load up Pine, and press 'A' immediately for the address
book, and then press 'A' immediately again to enter a new address, the
screen does not clear, so one has to refresh it manually using Ctrl-L.

			 	
			 NJD Child Of The Sun
			 


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Hello:

I have pine 3.96 running on FreeBSD 2.2.2.  Through the kind help of one of
the admins on this list, I have been able to get my wyse 60 terminals
working correctly with pine, but my wyse50 terminals are misaligning the
menubar highlighter.  

It appears that the highlighter bar starts at the end of the line above
where it should be.  this causes the highlighter to wrap from one line to
the next.  When one arrows up or down the menu, various effects occur as a
result.  If you go up, it doesn't highlight at all, and if you go down,
everything becomes highlighted.

I am looking through my termcap man pages with no luck.  Can anyone point
me in a more useful direction?

Thank You, 

don.


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On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Alan Thew wrote:

AT> I can't find a list of OS versions where pine builds correctly. A large
AT> number are available via build but I've no idea which version this is
AT> supposed to work at e.g.
AT> 
AT> i.e. pine builds on OS YYY but is that version 1  or 2 ?

Here's what we are using here at UW:

port		OS		version
----		--		-------
ult		Ultrix		4.2a
osf		Digital Unix	3.2/4.0
lnx		Linux		2.0.30
hpx		HP/UX		9.05
nxt		NeXT		3.0?
sun		SunOS		4.1
sol		SunOS		5.4 (aka Solaris 2.4)
a41		AIX		4.2

All of the other (unix) ports are contributed, so we don't have direct
knowledge of what OS versions were used.  Some of the ports include a
version number of the OS used for the original port, but that is
almost never changed what contributors send patches :-(

About the best you can do is send a note to pine-info with a specific
OS/version and see if anyone has experience with it... 




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Terry Gray has pointed the correct way to use -c0 and I know understand...
this is what I wanted/needed.

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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, David L Miller wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Alan Thew wrote:
> 
> AT> I've asked this before but pine seems rather restricted as to where it
> AT> thinks folders live compared to say elm or mutt which will allow users to
> AT> read folders anywhere.
> 
> Pine is perfectly capable of reading folders anywhere, unless you have
> operating-dir set to restrict access to a sub-tree.  The default
> folder collection is relative to the $HOME/mail/ directory, but you
> can set a collection to point to any directory you want... 
> 
> 
> -- 
> David L. Miller <dlm@cac.washington.edu> | There are only two ways to live
> Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | your life. One is as though
> Box 354841, University of Washington     | nothing is a miracle. The other is
> 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA  | as though everything is a miracle.
> Phone: (206)685-6240  FAX: (206)685-4045 | -- A. Einstein
> 
> 


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On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Alan Thew wrote:

AT> I've asked this before but pine seems rather restricted as to where it
AT> thinks folders live compared to say elm or mutt which will allow users to
AT> read folders anywhere.

Pine is perfectly capable of reading folders anywhere, unless you have
operating-dir set to restrict access to a sub-tree.  The default
folder collection is relative to the $HOME/mail/ directory, but you
can set a collection to point to any directory you want... 


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4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA  | as though everything is a miracle.
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Pine 3.95 does not have this bug... I just checked...

Andrew

On Tue, 25 Nov 1997,
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> 
> 	When you load up Pine, and press 'A' immediately for the address
> book, and then press 'A' immediately again to enter a new address, the
> screen does not clear, so one has to refresh it manually using Ctrl-L.
> 
> 			 	
> 			 NJD Child Of The Sun
> 			 
> 
> 

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hi there i am hoping you can help...  I have just updated to Pine 3.96 on
a Redhat 4.2 system.  I am now having a problem with file locking for
users.  This error doesn't occur for root just normal users. the error is
Error creating
/var/spool/mail/USERNAME.lock.A-BUNCH-OF-NUMBERS.SOME-MORE-NUMBERS.kosmos.online.bc.ca.
could you please tell why this is happening...  I have check permissions
and everything seems to be normal.?

Any info would be greatly appreciated...
thanks,
Sean Clarke - Network Administrator - Online Communications




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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, root wrote:

> hi there i am hoping you can help...  I have just updated to Pine 3.96
> on a Redhat 4.2 system.  I am now having a problem with file locking for
> users.  This error doesn't occur for root just normal users. the error
> is Error creating
> /var/spool/mail/USERNAME.lock.A-BUNCH-OF-NUMBERS.SOME-MORE-NUMBERS.kosmos.online.bc.ca. 
> could you please tell why this is happening...  I have check permissions
> and everything seems to be normal.? 

Hi, "root".

You say that you've checked the permissions, but what did you compare them
with to verify that they were correct?. The Linux standard filesystem has
setup the permissions of the mail directory wrong, which Pine very much
dislikes ("wrong" could be a matter of opinion, but there are more reasons
in favor of changing it as there are against doing so).

Try a "chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail", try again and report what happens.

Good luck!

Regards,

- Richard Gering.

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hello .

when i send email to other they get the first field as :

To:bla@blabll

instead of  getting it normally as from : 

supper@netvision.net.il


please let me know how to change it .




best regards 

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Can any one provide a pointer on how to configure pine such that the inbox
lock resides in /usr/spool/mail instead of /tmp (this is on a unix box
running aix 4.1)


TIA
Dawn

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Hello, who ever you are!

I am a grafik-design student at the Art college/ dueselldorf-germany.
At the momemt I prepare an interaktive installtion, which is based on 
a speech control software. This propgramm selects all spoken word by the
audience of the exhibition and transfers it to some periphere machines,
as there
are at the first point a "needle"-printer. On the endless paper the
recognized words 
of the audience will be mixed with the questions/ sentences according to
my topic:
"informationSense" or "deus ex machina".

Afterwards the word collage will be send by a faxmachine. The recieving
faxmachine 
transports this collage to a document-shredder-machine, the never ending
paper strips fall towards the ground in front of a artificial fireplace.

This will be my diploma work...

So my idea is to show that the more information will be avaiable at one
point
of time simultanousley, the less you are able to capture.

This is an invitation to take part at a global brainstorming according
to my
project.
At the moment I am in contact with "arthouse" dublin /ireland, austria
and Karlsruhe/Germany.
So please send me your feedback/ideas/critics to my e-mail adress. Dont
be shy!
you will be a part of my artwork next year february, the 9.th. Promised.
So tell your friends and let my message circulate....

Thanks a lot for your interest and help
have a nice day

max :-)



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Dear Sir,

It is the first time I received a binhex 4.0 message.
I do not not how I can convert the text into a binhex 4.0 message. I reaaly
appreciate with you could help me.
I look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely yours,
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I am having the same problem. I have a Macintosh Proforma 637 with 36Mb
of ram and using system 7.5.5. My browser is Netscape Communicator
4.0.4. I am trying to send JPEG Pictures to a friend who has a P/C with
Windows 95 with 36MB and using Netscape 3.0 Gold. I put the pictures in
Netscape E-mailer as Attachments and use the UUecoding or the Mime
format. He is unable to open the attachments in either format. I even
tried Plug -in. He told me that he can open attachment that were sent by
a P/C user.I need help
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what do i9 need to do to download gif files

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>> "WT" == William Tauer <wtauer@atlantic.net> writes:

WT> I am having the same problem. 

It would seem this way. This is a mailing list for an email program
for unix and one other inferior OS. Noone here knows anything about
Apples - I hope ;-)

Cheers,
Robin

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from a suddenly blue screen.  Damn it.  If they survived this, a
certain Redmond, USA, earth would find itself in hot plasma...

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Please advise on how to obtain binhex 4.0. I have some incomming mail that
need it to convert transmitted pictures.

Thanking you in anticipation

Darryl Kingsbury

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Hello, again!

	Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 23:09:44 -0400 (EDT)
	From: Out of his mind <tv@pobox.com>
	To: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de
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	Subject: Re: [mail] Getting Mail headers without mail prog???

Wow - one of my oldest emails which are still in my mailbox.
Gotta reply to it now!

Quoting Out of his mind (tv@pobox.com):
> > Well, this looks at *all* lines which contain "From".
> > It should be "^From: ", though.
> > And even this does not skip "included non-quoted mails".
> > So - could somebody give a better script?  PERL, anyone?
> Here is a Perl replacement for 'from' that I use,
> 	#!/usr/local/bin/perl -s
> 	# from - Find out who incoming mail is from, with support for
> mailfiles and I could certainly customize it for anything you want,
> or super-condense it and add support for the Apparently-From: header.
> Which parts of headers do you want?

How about making it customizable with some switches?
I think these are the most important:
	Date:|From |From:|Subject:|To:

> Use 'from -h' to get usage; it runs under both Perl 4 and Perl 5.
> It even re-canonicalizes addresses to the standard "Name <address>"
> format, no matter what format it's currently in.

That is certainly cool!

> > I'd promise the best script a postcard from Berlin.
> > How about one of the "wrapped Reichstag"?

I think I'll have to send you that postcard still.

Sven  [finally replying to old emails]

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Is it possible to specify an Attachment from a command line argument ?

Doug Miller


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>> "m" == millerd  <bts@btlip06.bt.co.uk> writes:

m> Is it possible to specify an Attachment from a command line
m> argument ?  

Not with pine. mutt can do it.

Cheers,
Robin - always nagging ;-)

-- 
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>From: millerd <bts@btlip06.bt.co.uk>
>Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 16:39:37 +0000 (GMT)

>Is it possible to specify an Attachment from a command line argument?

Not with pine. The only information you can affect in the headers is what will
go in the To.


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Greetings, folks.  I beg your help with a question:

Basically, all the time I've been using Pine for news, it hasn't been able
to killfile.  But then I mentioned to someone that I love Pine except for
the fact that you can't killfile, and he said "Oh, no, you can" and
forwarded the following email (identifying headers snipped): 

******
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 23:32:47 -0500
Subject: FW: Killfile

-----Original Message-----
Sent:	Thursday, November 27, 1997 1:47 AM
Subject:  Killfile

After opening the News Group, you have about three rows of instructions at
the bottom of the screen.  On mine, the Killfile is at the end of the
first line. . . you hit control-K  (^K) and it goes to the "Kill Select"
screen.  It asks you about 4 or 5 questions, and after you've put in the
name of the file you want to Kill, it asks if you want to save it.  The
next time you open that news group, the killed files should no longer show
up.
******

Now, I have tried exactly what this note suggested, and also looked in the
FAQs...have never found anything about a killfile.  So is she using a
separate version of Pine, or is this person mistakenly talking about
another newsreader and just getting the name wrong?

I'm sorry to ask such a terribly trite and oft-asked question, but if
there is any way I can kill on Pine I would love to know it.  (BTW, a
Yahoo search didn't turn up any info...I DID look, I swear!)

Thank you all very much!

           Cheers,

              Maximum Woman


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I write on a MacPlus and use Z-term.  Whenever I send or respond ot
messages, a portion of a letter are put in automatically.  I do not know
how to get rid of this.  Can anyone help me?
	Arthur Boers

ieux.  There is a great purity of heart that Margaret shares with these
two remarkable young women.  "Blessed are the pure of heart, they will see
God."  She saw God during her illness.  She is seeing God now!

Your responses to her letters are very real. Truly a brother's response.
You are honest, not afraid to share your feelings, and very caring.  I
love the way you speak about Lorna and your children There is a great
simplicity and lucidity to the whole text.  Indeed, as you say, 'ordinary
heroism,' I would say 'ordinary sanctity.'

Can it be published?  I certainly hope so, but it is not going to be easy
to find a publisher that can give it the push it needs.  It remains a risk
for a publisher since it isn't the most 'popular' subject.  It is a book
that needs to be discovered.  It's great simplicity is it's great virtue,
but also makes it hard to sell!  But I believe in it and want to work for
you to get it published. I .

Peace,



Henri Nouwen



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I want more information about 'pine'
(about all)

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>> "VSM" == <No Value Set:COSTACHE MIHAI> schrieb am Fri, 28 Nov 1997 17:46:46 +0200 (EET):

VSM> I want more information about 'pine' (about all)

In the initial screen, hit "?". Other locations:

	<http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine >
	<ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine>

"For a copy of the current Pine "Frequently Asked Questions" (FAQ) list,
send an empty message to pine-faq@cac.washington.edu  -- or, if it is
available at your site, use the Setup/Update command under the Main Menu."

HTH,
Robin

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How?email please...THX


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>> "JF" == John Fitzpatrick <johnfitz@netsoc.ucd.ie> writes:
JF> How?email please...THX

Not at all. Go away, you suck.

Robin

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On Fri, 28 Nov 1997, John Fitzpatrick wrote:

> How?email please...THX

I was just in Dublin a few days ago.  Had I seen your email earlier I
would have dropped by and shown you personally what I think about folks
that fake emails. 


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On Thu, 27 Nov 1997, kingsbury wrote:

> Please advise on how to obtain binhex 4.0. I have some incomming mail that
> need it to convert transmitted pictures.

I've a shell script which will accomplish the feat.  It run on Unix.  So,
let me know if you want it.

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had you have let the rest of us know we would have had a laugh :)

tut tut for faking mail!!!!


On Sat, 29 Nov 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Nov 1997, John Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
> > How?email please...THX
> 
> I was just in Dublin a few days ago.  Had I seen your email earlier I
> would have dropped by and shown you personally what I think about folks
> that fake emails. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Edward M. Greshko                  Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce
>                                    Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
> PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D  Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC  3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE
> 
> 


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I down loaded your product to be used in our open labs at Washtenaw
community college.
I am very pleased and satisfied with all the features. Except.--How do I
get the PC version to
use a full Personal name rather than the user ID.

We would like students to access their mail via Pc pine and be able to
go to  any work station without
setting their Personal name. Work stations use Windows 95. I am testing
your 32bit version.

We are using  red  hat linux server. Is there anything we can do on the
UNIX side, or can a parameter
be set in the pinerc file locally on the Windows 95 workstations?

Pleas help. Thank you.

Amin Ladha, Network Manager
(313) 973-3611



Personal name
   -------------
      Your name as you want it to appear on outgoing email.  You may
have
      spaces and punctuation in the name. Personal name




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I have received a file created in a Mac version of MS Word. The sender
tells me that he has converted it to IBM format, but when I try to open i=
t
I get the message "must be converted through BinHex 4.0".

A search on the Internet led me to you for info, where I find a query for=

you from Sven Guckes with reference to decoding through BinHex 4.0 under
Unix. =


I'm using Windows 95, and I assume that I shall have to download BinHex 4=
=2E0
from somewhere and then find out how to apply it to the MS Word file I
received. Can you give me some guidance on this?

Many thanks!

John Todaro.    E-Mail address:
todaro@compuserve.com

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To whom it may concern,

I have recently received a number of attachments to email sent through an
unknown internet provider, and it tells me that the attached files have been
saved as an "mim" file.  I understand that the "pine" program is a utility
that can in some (magical) way decode the files, but pine is so unfriendly,
that I have had troubles figuring out how to extract/decode the attached jpg
files within the parent mim file.  If you could give me a simple way to use
pine or direct me to another utility that can convert/decode the jpg files
without needing a degree in computer science, I would REALLY appreciate it.
 Thanks for your time.

Matthew McPherson

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hello 

since i donot know your name so i thought only heelo will do .
Know conming to the point about the purpose of the mail
I would like to know the following things
1. why do the student connection takes so long to connect and most of 
the time ii get connected to a junk connection like   ether it take no 
input just displays the first screen that of the login one or it take 
sone junk as input .
2. how to download a txt file from my pc to the internet to for send 
mils purpose and aslo try to explain me the how the attachmennt work 
using the pine.
3. how ccam i create my fre email using the student connection in the 
hotmail.comand alo tell me the procedure to search the different sites 
on the net using the text connection

please reply back in detail as possible .
right know even i was not able to connect the student connection so i am 
using a tcpip account 
please reply me back on both the addresss i. e.
      ASHANU@HOTMAIL.COM
      MANISHB@GIASDLA.VSNL.NET.IN
THANK YOU 
bye manish


______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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maybe you could help me..i am trying to get information on nexus-lexus,,i
understand the information in this data base could assist me in my work..can
you help

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This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to
aid readers in finding information about Pine.  Before sending questions 
to the mailing list, please consult these resources:

The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive
help.  Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, 
Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are 
available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be 
accessed:

     - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL:
       http://www.washington.edu/pine/

     - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the
       subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the
       documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form.

     - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can
       also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection
       (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to
       folder-collections and choose Add Value) as:
            *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[]
    

The messages from this mailing list are archived.  These archives can be 
accessed:

     - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL:
       http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
       (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information
        on how to subscribe to this mailing list)

     - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the
       subdirectory /pine/pine-info/.

     - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN
       MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and 
       choose Add Value) as:
            *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[]

Please note: the mailing list is no longer mirrored in the comp.mail.pine 
newsgroup.

If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before
and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past
messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: 

http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ 
  or
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt

If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact
the technical support staff or computer help desk of YOUR Internet Service
Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization
provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on
using, Pine.  Because system functions and configuration can vary from
site to site, they are best qualified to assist you.  (Due to the large
number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington
cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other
organizations.)

Sun Nov 30 03:00:06 PST 1997

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  Pine development and support team
  University of Washington        
  Computing & Communications        
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Dear PINE-INFO:

There seem to be a problem in my inbox.  When I try to open it, it said,
[>Can't connect to t.imap.itd.umich.edu,143: Connection refused<]                     
                   [>Can't access server<]

-Thiphasone


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On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Thiphasone T Phimviengkham wrote:

> There seem to be a problem in my inbox.  When I try to open it, it said,
> [>Can't connect to t.imap.itd.umich.edu,143: Connection refused<]                     
>                    [>Can't access server<]

Did it ever work?

>From a shell account try typing:

telnet t.imap.itd.umich.edu 143  and see what happens....

If you get "connection refused" then you to talk with the system admin
since it seems that an IMAP server is not running.

-- 
Edward M. Greshko                  Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce
                                   Control Data Asia/Pacific Region
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