From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 01:10:38 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 01:10:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA11383 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 01:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA00638 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 01:07:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA00634 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 01:07:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vU7my-00038BC; Sun, 1 Dec 96 01:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jie.yuan@uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: ipop3d NOT allowing 'Leave mail on server' Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:40:28 -0500 Message-ID: References: <57eb6c$3q7@chaos.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <57eb6c$3q7@chaos.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be>, Herman.VanUytven@cc.kuleuven.ac.be wrote: > Hello, > > I wonder if it is possible to compile ipop3d (we use 3-6), so that > it is not possible for Eudora users to set 'Leave mail on server'. > If too much of our Eudora users do this, our 2G /var/spool/mail > will get full. Impose disk quota on the storage of email. If users lose emails due to disk quota, it is their fault. Try to warn them early and frequently so that you are protected... :-) > > We use at another place another pop server which does not allow this, > but this pop server has problems with locked mailboxes, so I like to use > the POP server of the imap distribution because most of our users use > Pine. You can disable the POP3 altegether if you want. When this happens, all Eudora users will have to find IMAP clients and you'll get earful of complaints. You still have to impose disk quota since IMAP does not solve disk problems. Jie -- -- Jie Yuan - Pharmacology & Cell Biophysics - U. Cincinnati -- -- POBox 670575, 231 Bethesda Av., Cincinnati, OH 45267-0575 -- -- jie.yuan@uc.edu - www.uc.edu/~yuanj - using NewsWatcher -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 05:21:35 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 05:21:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA14250 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 05:21:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA06474 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 05:17:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA06469 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 05:17:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUBio-00038BC; Sun, 1 Dec 96 05:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Subject: Re: Mass mailing Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:55:51 -0800 Message-ID: References: <329B36E3.4187@sparc1.castles.com> <57qb7m$cdu@news.eecs.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <57qb7m$cdu@news.eecs.umich.edu> Hi R., On 30 Nov 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: : kenh@castles.com (Ken Hamidi) writes: : : >Hi, : >I need to know if there is a sofware which can send multiple (1000's) : >e-mails and the names do not show at the To: section. : >Would you please help? : : Why should we? There are hardly any useful or legitimate reasons to send : 1000's of copies of an email message. I hope you get the help you : deserve. : Well said! Looks like I'll be adding castles.com to my filter :) . C-ya, Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 10:07:14 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 10:07:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA15832 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 10:07:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA09334 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 10:04:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA09330 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 10:04:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUG9z-00038UC; Sun, 1 Dec 96 09:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Pine vs NX Date: 1 Dec 1996 17:19:48 GMT Message-ID: <57senk$ops@due.unit.no> References: In article , Michael wrote: >On a side note: > >Do you know if it is normal for the default composer (PICO) to have trouble >justifying a line once the message has been postponed? I would guess it's "normal", since I have this problem too.. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 11:34:30 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 11:34:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA15749 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 11:34:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA10624 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 11:27:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us [204.198.80.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA10612 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 11:27:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (sfd5r@localhost) by scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (8.8.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA06043; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 14:26:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 14:26:55 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Perkins X-Sender: sfd5r@scfn To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: "Tech. Asst. (SCFN)" Subject: Re: posting failed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Bob Perkins wrote: I can't post a message in the sci.med.hepatitis conf. When I press the p for post. A message tell me the posting failed and the message is put into my home box labled dead.articil. > On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Bob Perkins wrote: This is how I go about getting to the problem conference. > > > > > 1. menue = main #12 > > > > 2. menue = med #7 > > > > 3. menue =health #6 > > > > 4. menue = hepatitis #1 > > > > On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Bob Perkins wrote: > > > > > > > > I have tried several times to post a message on the > > > sci.med.diseases.hepatitis users group. Each time after entering the proper commands I get a message that the posting failed and > > > the message is sent my home box labled as dead.articl > > > I've notice all week that the number of postings on the hepititus news group hasen't changed. None of the postings have been deleted > > > and no others have been posted. > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 13:55:52 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 13:55:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA10298 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 13:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA14374 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 13:48:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mirage.skypoint.com (mirage.skypoint.com [199.86.32.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA14370 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 13:48:35 -0800 Received: by mirage.skypoint.com via sendmail with stdio id for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 15:48:33 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 15:48:33 -0600 (CST) From: Max Swanson X-Sender: maxswn@mirage To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help wanted on Overlap setting in Ver. 3.91. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could somebody kindly let me know how to get the overlap between screenfuls of a message down from 2 to 0 in Pine 3.91. It does not have the "overlap default" feature in the options menu as does Ver. 3.95. If this is too basic for the list, just e-mail me at: maxswn@skypoint.com. Just decided to jump in here right away, 'cause that overlap is driving me nuts! Ciao fer now from, Max, KA0-IZH! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 13:56:01 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 13:56:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA17719 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 13:56:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA14431 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 13:52:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA14427 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 13:52:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUJjg-00038BC; Sun, 1 Dec 96 13:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Clyde Taylor Subject: pine & linux Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:40:24 -0600 Message-ID: <329A66A8.4377@ec.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit howdy, trying to get pine to get mail from isp, i can send mail and retrieve newsgroups. but perplexed on how to get mail??? thanks clyde From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 14:41:20 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 14:41:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA18138 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 14:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA13626 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 14:37:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA13620 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 14:37:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUKUC-00038BC; Sun, 1 Dec 96 14:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Question: receive message problem Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:33:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32A081C9.572E@unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32A081C9.572E@unm.edu> On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, C. L. Choong wrote: > [...] > my question is: How can I solve this problem? --> I don't want the > receiver see the 100 persons' names. because it is > too long and make the screen mess. Use Bcc: or, in later versions of Pine, Lcc:. In Pine, information about these header fields is available online. If you use Bcc:, you should put at least one address, such as your own, in the To: field. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 14:54:14 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 14:54:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA18329 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 14:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA15277 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 14:50:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA15273 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 14:50:10 -0800 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 2 Dec 96 06:48:47 +0800 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 06:48:47 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Max Swanson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help wanted on Overlap setting in Ver. 3.91. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Max Swanson wrote: > Could somebody kindly let me know how to get the overlap between > screenfuls of a message down from 2 to 0 in Pine 3.91. > > It does not have the "overlap default" feature in the options menu as > does Ver. 3.95. The "real" answer is upgrade to 3.95 since you'll get some new features and bug fixes. To answer your question, however,... In the source go to the pine/osdep directory and edit the appropriate os-xxx.h file. (xxx=OS in the build command.) Make changes to the "#define DF_OVERLAP " line and recompile. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 16:41:47 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 16:41:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA18976 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 16:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA16856 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 16:37:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA16852 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 16:37:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUMM9-00038BC; Sun, 1 Dec 96 16:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: logan@kronos-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov (Logan Shaw) Subject: Re: inefficiency when saving messages remotely Message-ID: <1996Dec1.180707.18575@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov> References: <1996Nov30.172351.35308@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 18:07:07 GMT In article <1996Nov30.172351.35308@ucl.ac.uk>, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: >I'm at home, using PC Pine (OS/2) to read stuff in my remote mailbox >on the University machine. > >When I tag a whole bunch of messages and save them to a remote mail folder, >it takes forever. What seems to be happening is that Pine is sending each >message to my PC, and then back again to the remote folder. > >Pine is usually so good at handling the remote/local distinction elegantly. >This seems an anomalous failing. Well, is it an IMAP mailbox or a POP mailbox? If the latter, I'm going to guess (though I don't actually have any direct knowledge) that the protocol doesn't give you much of a choice. - Logan -- Logan Shaw, Unix Systems Administrator "everybody / loves to see / justice done / on somebody else" (Bruce Cockburn) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 17:49:04 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:49:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA19526 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA16476 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:43:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA16472 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:43:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUNNm-00038BC; Sun, 1 Dec 96 17:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: ipop3d NOT allowing 'Leave mail on server' Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:02:01 -0800 Message-ID: References: <57eb6c$3q7@chaos.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <57eb6c$3q7@chaos.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be> On 26 Nov 1996, Studenten Administratie wrote: > I wonder if it is possible to compile ipop3d (we use 3-6), so that > it is not possible for Eudora users to set 'Leave mail on server'. > If too much of our Eudora users do this, our 2G /var/spool/mail > will get full. > > We use at another place another pop server which does not allow this, > but this pop server has problems with locked mailboxes, so I like to use > the POP server of the imap distribution because most of our users use > Pine. The decision of whether or not mail is left on the server is completely up to the POP3 client. The POP3 client must issue an explicit delete command (DELE in POP3 protocol) to remove messages. There is no way that the server can force the client to download messages. You could something like automatically delete the mailbox when a POP3 session completes. It's up to you whether or not destroying users' mail is a good idea. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 17:54:25 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:54:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA19605 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA16595 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:51:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA16585 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:50:58 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA23986 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:50:57 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 17:50:56 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: inefficiency when saving messages remotely In-Reply-To: <1996Dec1.180707.18575@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dominik, Logan is right that we don't have enough info to help you. If your inbox-path and folder collection both have the same IMAP server specification, then Pine will issue an IMAP COPY command, in which case the copy operation is local to the server. Otherwise, the message(s) will be pushed from Pine to the destination IMAP server via an IMAP APPEND command. -teg On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Logan Shaw wrote: > In article <1996Nov30.172351.35308@ucl.ac.uk>, > Dominik Wujastyk wrote: > >I'm at home, using PC Pine (OS/2) to read stuff in my remote mailbox > >on the University machine. > > > >When I tag a whole bunch of messages and save them to a remote mail folder, > >it takes forever. What seems to be happening is that Pine is sending each > >message to my PC, and then back again to the remote folder. > > > >Pine is usually so good at handling the remote/local distinction elegantly. > >This seems an anomalous failing. > > Well, is it an IMAP mailbox or a POP mailbox? > > If the latter, I'm going to guess (though I don't actually have any > direct knowledge) that the protocol doesn't give you much of a choice. > > - Logan > -- > Logan Shaw, Unix Systems Administrator > "everybody / loves to see / justice done / on somebody else" (Bruce Cockburn) > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 18:38:54 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 18:38:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA19609 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 18:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA18571 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 18:33:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA18567 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 18:33:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUO8c-00038BC; Sun, 1 Dec 96 18:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Gabriele F. A. Oleotti" Subject: copy to sent-mail? Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:20:06 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I have the following problem using pine 3.95. I setup pine to save messeges in various folders depending on the name of the sender. This work well, but when I compose a message for one of that senders it saves me the message to his/her folder instead of the sent-mail folder. I want all messages I write to be saved in sent-mail folder. Does anybody know why this happen? For instance I setup (*) default-fcc from fcc-name-rule section in config. Thanks to all. Gabriele ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gabriele Oleotti V. Fabio Filzi, 8 20124 Milano (Italy) Phone: +39-2-66985557 mailto:gabriele@sauron.mat.unimi.it ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ God made the integers; all else is the work of Man. (Kronecker) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Dec 1 19:27:27 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 19:27:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA26108 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 19:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA18001 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 19:21:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca (sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.88]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA17997 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 19:21:46 -0800 Received: from localhost (carolw@localhost) by sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca (8.8.3/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA22082 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 22:21:39 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca: carolw owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 22:21:38 -0500 (EST) From: Carol Wilson X-Sender: carolw@sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Tonight I accessed my e-mail and was told I had new mail. When I accessed PINE I pushed "return" without waiting, in order to get to the mail faster. Unfortunately, the computer had been asking me if I wanted to move my sent mail to a folder called "sent-mail-1996" (I think). I thought I should look at the folder and probably delete everything in it, because I don't need any of it, but I cannot find it when I list the folders. How can I access it? Glad you're there! Regards, Carol. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Dec 2 03:09:10 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 03:09:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA23825 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 03:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA24899 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 03:04:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA24893 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 03:04:16 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA19109 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:03:00 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA26465; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:05:02 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:05:01 +0300 (MSK) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Mark Crispin cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: newsgroups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > On 28 Nov 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > > What about storing local copy of available newsgroups and update them if > > neccessary (e.g. when requested group was not found)? I understand, that > > it would be hard to do currently, as you have no idea which server is > > accessed, but if you are moving to multiple servers support, it should be > > easy. > > It isn't as easy to fix as you think. This problem is actually in the > user interface (not my code) and has very little to do with the handling > of .newsrc files or of multiple server support. As I understand it, > here's what's going on: > > The user interface has a menu of newsgroups for subscribing, so it needs > the full list for the menu. However, this list is big, so keeping it > around is difficult for 16-bit PC Pine. Even UNIX Pine users would object > to another 200+K of growth of Pine's memory use (we're trying to shrink > it, really!). Have I ever said about keeping them in memory? I just thought about something like: if newsgroups-list-file not initialized init it from server if group not in newsgroups-list-file refresh it from server look in the file again sigh ... Searching disk file will be faster as accessing server; if you have really fast connection, disable caching of newsgroups. > Then there are those who complain "alt.blurdybloop.sarasoop > just got created 5 minutes ago, but my Pine session that's been running > for 2 months doesn't show it in the menu, what's wrong with you guys." > Well, it is the way most browsers work (I admit not being familiar with pure newsreaders). Just add the command "Update news groups list"; also it is possible to set some threshhold value to update list automatically (let's say, once a month). And again, those, who don't like it, can always disable cacheing. greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Dec 2 06:28:58 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 06:28:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA25904 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 06:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA28962 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 06:18:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from utso.ut.nrcs.usda.gov (utso.ut.nrcs.usda.gov [162.79.82.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA28958 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 06:18:39 -0800 Received: from utfocs1 by utso.ut.nrcs.usda.gov with SMTP (8.7.6/itc-cust.Revision: 1.8 $) id OAA01146; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:17:51 GMT Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:17:51 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19961202071846.08279072@utso.ut.nrcs.usda.gov> X-Sender: mwilson@utso.ut.nrcs.usda.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mary Ann Wilson Subject: pop servers I am trying to find information on how to set up a Solaris 2.4 system as a pop server. I have done this on a UNIXWARE 2.03 computer, but can't seem to find what I need for the Solaris computer. Any advice is appreciated. Mary Ann Wilson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Dec 2 09:16:07 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:16:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA29379 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA01002 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:11:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from info.elf.stuba.sk (info.elf.stuba.sk [147.175.111.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA00985 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:11:14 -0800 Received: from alpha.euba.sk by info.elf.stuba.sk with SMTP id AA07348 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:10:02 +0100 Received: by alpha.euba.sk; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/17Oct96-0530PM) id AA29517; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:11:10 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:11:09 +0100 (MET) From: Michal Rebej To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: rebej@alpha.euba.sk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you for the explanation. I am a beginning user of INTERNET. Please, send me now a FAQ list, if possible. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Dec 2 09:30:22 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:30:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA29742 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:30:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA01334 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:25:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tavarua.cc.odu.edu (tavarua.cc.odu.edu [128.82.3.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA01330 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:25:29 -0800 Received: from localhost (cme400z@localhost) by tavarua.cc.odu.edu (8.7.6/8.6.4) with SMTP id MAA28003 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:29:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:29:18 -0500 (EST) From: Chris X-Sender: cme400z@tavarua To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: can't post to newsgroups Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am just writing to ask why I can no longer post to newsgroups. Up until last week, I had no problems, but since then an error comes up each time I try and doesn't allow me to post. Please get back to me as soon as possible with some sort of explanation, for there are certain newsgroups I must stay in contact with. Just in case, I have tried many different newsgroups, and none of them work for me. Thank you. chris enderly From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Dec 2 11:30:41 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:30:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA15343 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA04795 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:26:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA04791 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:26:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUdxo-00038VC; Mon, 2 Dec 96 11:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ucgadkw@ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Subject: inefficiency when saving messages remotely Message-ID: <1996Nov30.172351.35308@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 17:23:51 GMT I'm at home, using PC Pine (OS/2) to read stuff in my remote mailbox on the University machine. When I tag a whole bunch of messages and save them to a remote mail folder, it takes forever. What seems to be happening is that Pine is sending each message to my PC, and then back again to the remote folder. Pine is usually so good at handling the remote/local distinction elegantly. This seems an anomalous failing. Dominik -- Best wishes, Dominik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Dec 2 11:31:03 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:31:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA26222 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA06087 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:26:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA06083 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:26:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUdxo-00038UC; Mon, 2 Dec 96 11:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: djmer@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au (Darren Merritt) Subject: Help! 451 Failed to queue message: spool file Date: 30 Nov 1996 08:40:47 +1100 Message-ID: <57nl8v$1fc$1@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au> I have been working on this for days but have been beaten so far.. When sending mail (ie: from pine or Elm) I can do it from root but not as a user. The error message in Pine is: 451 failed to queue message: spool file call_mailer ERROR: Mail not sent. In my smail paniclog it says: cannot create spool file, dir=/var/spool/smail I have checked permissions, links, .. whatever I can think of over and over and can't work out why it only works while logged in as root. If anyone has an answer, idea or even a guess where to look, I'ld be very appreciative. Many thanks, Darren Merritt email: djmer@quest.apana.org.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Dec 2 11:46:25 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:46:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA21548 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:46:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA06637 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:42:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opus.csd.uwm.edu (opus.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.124.22]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA06631 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:42:42 -0800 Received: (dave@localhost) by opus.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.3/8.6.4) id NAA24766 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:42:40 -0600 From: Dave Rasmussen Message-Id: <199612021942.NAA24766@opus.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: Inbox conflict - how to deal with? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 13:42:39 -0600 (CST) Word-of-the-day: glide X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23beta2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If pine refers to the /usr/spool/mail/$user file as the inbox and then some user creates a folder in their mail directory called inbox, how can I as a system administrator make sure that this either doesn't happen or that the users will see these as seperate files? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:34:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA07056 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA13762 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:29:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA13758 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:29:24 -0800 Received: from sea-ts2-p61.wolfenet.com (sea-ts2-p61.wolfenet.com [204.157.98.179]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id PAA18252 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:30:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:30:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.16.19961202152326.3767fec2@wolfenet.com> X-Sender: jullman@wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (16) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Ullman Subject: Can PINE be used to forward email to another ISP? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I would like to be able to have all my email forwarded to another ISP for a while. Is there a function in PINE that does this, or is there some other way to do this on a typical UNIX server? Thanks, John Ullman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:46:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA27510 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA14170 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:42:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com (nerc1.nerc.com [205.247.120.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA14159 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:42:34 -0800 Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (luomat@nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA24856; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:41:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:41:37 -0500 (EST) From: Timothy Luoma Reply-To: Tim Luoma To: John Ullman cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can PINE be used to forward email to another ISP? In-Reply-To: <3.0.16.19961202152326.3767fec2@wolfenet.com> Message-ID: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-URL: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII put a file in your home directory with the email address of the other ISP in it. name the file ".forward" TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:16:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA29561 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA15025 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:10:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA15021 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:10:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUiPA-00038BC; Mon, 2 Dec 96 16:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chris Gushue Subject: Viewing a MIME type? Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:49:58 -0330 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I need to be able to view a MIME type of html in pine 3.95. Using the viewer complains that it can't view that type of message. I assume it is mail sent from Netscape, and I would like to be able to scan the message over before I save it and view it with an editor or lynx. TIA - -- Chris Gushue http://www.geocities.com/~seymour/ finger cgushue@sparky2.esd.mun.ca for PGP public key "We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. We are the Borg." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMqNkJ9j6Y8oZEvxtAQFxhgQAubOU9MoJHewoX4N3XVSvDH6QYXnfD9zs zZJPc+aqvYBRq3G1R1GOsHB1OF4GuGqpI31QOq8qig12TCJwtbgAOEECxJWRcLgi sUAiJ663K3OhHEamNaAEZuj+3X8iqd/hHOiXbnsNxE/L7Q1WMWGtGLPUewvi11iB ZmYBAaDfCSE= =tQea -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:24:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA06901 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA13797 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:20:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA13791 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:20:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUiZG-00038TC; Mon, 2 Dec 96 16:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Duic Subject: Integration of pine and unix Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:32:46 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please let me know if one have succesfuly integrate pine with pgp on SCO Open Server 5.0. I have found some scripts on the net but they have errors and some functions which they are use are not implemented in SCO commands. Any help or hint will be helpfull Please send your comments directly to : I have try to customize these utils ... ftp://ftp.pgp.net/pub/pgp.utils/pine E-Mail: robert@wimal.waw.pl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:31:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA28040 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA15410 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:25:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA15406 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:25:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUidx-00038TC; Mon, 2 Dec 96 16:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jab@floodland.netis.com (GreyStar) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and pine.conf/pine.conf.fixed Message-ID: References: <32A23ACA.1DDD@wsg.net> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 23:12:46 GMT On Sun, 01 Dec 1996 21:11:22 -0500, David M. Fogarty wrote: > Hello all, > > I would like to set up Pine to default to a file (Mailbox) in the user's > home directory. I know I need to set inbox-path=Mailbox but for some > reason Pine seems to ignore it's system wide configuration file. If you > specify the system wide file, it works fine. > > I've got pine.conf in /usr/local/lib/ as specified as the default > location for the global config file in the man pages.... Where'd I go > wrong? > Try putting the file in /usr/local/etc. HTH. -jab -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __ __ __ _ _ __ ___ _ __ | _ |__| |__ \ / |__ | /_\ |__| jab@floodland.netis.com .|__| | \ |__ | __| | / \ | \. http://lapent.cs.uml.edu/ -+crazy . overcast . ash . grey . wording+- Undernet: GreyStar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:46:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA18823 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA15971 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:42:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA15967 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:42:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUitn-00038TC; Mon, 2 Dec 96 16:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: problem importing text Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:26:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: <57ud6c$i81@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <57ud6c$i81@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> On 2 Dec 1996, Christian Doellner wrote: > Every time I cut and paste my word processed documents the line wrapping > is always screwed up and the apostphroes and quoatation marks change > into U's. I've tried converting my posts to ASII and it makes no > difference. Unfortunately, as a rule of thumb it often causes problems to use a word processor to compose email or news. A text editor is much safer. Like it or not, the Internet is still largely based on ASCII with a hard end-of-line indication, and most word processors use other internal mechanisms. Some WP's allow exporting of a document in ASCII, but even then there can be gotchas. I suggest a text editor over a word processor. As for apostrophes and quotation marks, make sure you are entering the ASCII characters, not some nice looking symbol which is not ASCII. > Yet when I cut and paste most internet documents into Pine there are > no format problems. Such documents may already be in correct ASCII format. > Can anyone help me? And why is it that my ARROWS in my word > processor work, but don't work in Pine? I'm using a MAC 190cs lap-top. Are you using your laptop to dial into a host computer? If so, then it could be that the signals generated by your arrow keys (so to speak) are not getting translated correctly into the control sequences expected on the host system for cursor movement. For example, when I dial into my provider, DOS communications software on my DOS PC emulates a VT100 terminal. When I press an arrow key, the comm s/w translates that into the equivalent control sequence standardized for a VT100, and the cursor moves. If you are dialing in somewhere, you might check your terminal emulation. This is only one possibility, of course. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:13:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA10922 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:13:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA17822 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:01:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA17807 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:00:57 -0800 Received: from localhost(127.0.0.1) by mlode via smap (V1.3) id sma016421; Mon Dec 2 19:00:22 1996 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:00:21 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: "Penpal Msg" Virus Alert Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII FYI... a communication received today from a friend at GSI: ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Metzer, Rick To: Applegate, John; Felker, Barbara Subject: FW: Virus Alert -- VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!! Date: Monday, December 02, 1996 10:59AM Barb & John, I don't know if you have already been alerted to this one. Better safe than sorry I guess. Regards, Rick ---------- >Subject: Virus Alert >Importance: High >If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL GREETINGS! please delete it WITHOUT reading it. Below is a little explanation of the message, and what it would do to your PC if you were to read the message. If you have any questions or concerns please contact techhelp. >This is a warning for all internet users - there is a dangerous virus propogating across the internet through an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!". DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GREETINGS!" >This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is too late. The "trojan horse" virus will have already infected the boot sector of your hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is present in YOUR mailbox! >This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your inbox, and who's mail is in their inbox, and so on. If this virus remains unchecked, it has the potntial to do a great deal of DAMAGE to computer networks worldwide!!!! >Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" as soon as you see it! And pass this message along to all of your friends and relatives, and the other readers of the newsgroups and mailing lists which you are on, so that they are not hurt by this dangerous virus!!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:40:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA22274 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA19978 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:36:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA19973 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:36:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUlcS-00038BC; Mon, 2 Dec 96 19:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdoell@prairienet.org (Christian Doellner) Subject: problem importing text Date: 2 Dec 1996 11:05:48 GMT Message-ID: <57ud6c$i81@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Every time I cut and paste my word processed documents the line wrapping is always screwed up and the apostphroes and quoatation marks change into U's. I've tried converting my posts to ASII and it makes no difference. Yet when I cut and paste most internet documents into Pine there are no format problems. Can anyone help me? And why is it that my ARROWS in my word processor work, but don't work in Pine? I'm using a MAC 190cs lap-top. -- Christian Doellner cdoell@prairienet.org --------------------------------------- "This is all going to end badly. I'm going to end up old, broke, and a flasher." ----- Walker Percy to Shelby Foote November 28, 1977 -------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:52:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA08572 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA20720 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:46:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA20712 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:46:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUneK-00038BC; Mon, 2 Dec 96 21:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: art Subject: Can someone help me? Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 22:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: <32A39A5D.26CD@is.nyu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of a way that I can get msmail to automatically extract a few pertinent lines of text that is always at the end of my message? Or conversely,just delete say like the first 40 lines of text automatically? The reason I need to do this is that at the end of every day, I get my stock quotes and news in one email. At the end of this email is the data that i need to see,the quotes. I have my email sent to my alphanumeric pager using a paging program,but the problem is,each beep/page can handle only 240 characters,therefore with all the blanks and dashes in the beginning of my email from this particular service takes up all my allotted space! Any help or suggestions at all are GREATLY AND GRACIOUSLY appreciated,my wisdom is finite,very finite. THANK YOU From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:29:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA14395 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:29:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA23570 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:25:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA23565 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:25:07 -0800 Received: from phakt.usc.edu (phakt.usc.edu [128.125.253.144]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with ESMTP id AAA10568 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rburrell@localhost) by phakt.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id AAA26181 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:25:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:25:00 -0800 (PST) From: **Birdie** To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: hELP! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was fooling around with my email one day, and somehow, I changed it so that I cannot see the heading of the letters when ppl write to me. In other words, I can not see who it came from or their address at the top like it used to. I am talking about the stuff above the words "message text". Please help me change it back! Thanx...Robinne Burrell Bones From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 03:56:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA16347 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 03:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA27821 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 03:52:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA27817 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 03:52:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUtOO-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 03:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Reginald N Patton Subject: Re: can't post to newsgroups Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:48:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 2 Dec 1996, Chris wrote: > I am just writing to ask why I can no longer post to newsgroups. > Up until last week, I had no problems, but since then an error comes up > each time I try and doesn't allow me to post. Please get back to me as > soon as possible with some sort of explanation, for there are certain > newsgroups I must stay in contact with. Just in case, I have tried many > different newsgroups, and none of them work for me. Thank you. > What is the error that you get? maybe your nntp-posting-host is no longer allowing posting. -- Reginald N Patton | Hunger and greed are similar, except rnp@mdtsoft.com | that hunger can be satisfied. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:36:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA17084 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA27718 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:32:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA27714 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:32:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUuxM-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 05:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bo Branten Subject: Warning Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 22:19:29 +0100 Message-ID: <32A347E1.1AD2@ing.umu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The precompiled versions on ftp.cac.washington.edu gives the .pine-debugn files. (On our system that wastes 19MB) /Bo Branten From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:39:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA03027 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA29382 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:31:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA29372 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:30:38 -0800 Received: from troika.demon.co.uk ([158.152.49.204]) by relay-6.mail.demon.net id aa624323; 3 Dec 96 12:50 GMT Received: (from firth@localhost) by troika.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/v3.0) id MAA00462; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 12:47:51 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 12:47:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Bob Firth To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:43:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA17308 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA29440 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:35:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goodguy.goodnet.com (goodnet.com [207.98.129.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA29428 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 05:34:56 -0800 Received: from goodguy (mail [207.98.129.2]) by goodguy.goodnet.com (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id GAA21409 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:34:29 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:34:29 -0700 (MST) From: "Kathleen P. Daily-Herrman" X-Sender: kdh@goodguy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Windows 95 and Pine Mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi... I use Pine Mail in the Unix Shell when I login to my ISP with Windows 95 and Procomm Plus for windows (communications software) In my pine mail setup I use the "attached to ANSI" for my printer..and there is a printer set up in Windows 95. When I was running strictly Windows I had no problem printing...now when I threw windows 95 on my pc...I suddenly can't print to my attached printer. Help? Anyone? My mailbox is starting to fill up. Kathleen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:14:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA12829 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA29933 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:07:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA29921 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:07:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUvRR-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 06:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Attachment while replying Date: 2 Dec 1996 15:47:29 GMT Message-ID: Situation: I am replying to a mail and I want to attach some other mails from some of the folders in my folder collection. Can I do this? i.e. I hit 'R' to reply to a certain mail and I decide that I want to attach/forward or whatever certain other mails? Right now, I am going about it by a very cumbersom way i.e. Export the attachments I need to Unix files (using Pine's wonderful ';' feature) and then simply 'read' them in in my editor when I am composing my reply or attach that file in the message header. Any better solution? Thanks, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:30:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA26863 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:30:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA28516 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:24:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA28512 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:24:04 -0800 Received: (qmail 6409 invoked from network); 3 Dec 1996 14:23:56 -0000 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@130.79.74.66) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr with SMTP; 3 Dec 1996 14:23:56 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:23:56 +0100 (MET) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: viewing/mailcap problems... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello, i just received a mail with teh following content: [Part 2, Application/OCTET-STREAM (Name: "FIBU.DE") 4.4KB] [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] [Part 3, Application/OCTET-STREAM (Name: "PIZZAP1.GIF") 4.1KB] [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] now the first one is only an ascii-file and the second as the name says a gif. As i tryed to view them i got a [VIEWER Result: sh: hd: command not found] error.... which is in conformance with my .mailcap (i corrected hd to od BTW) now how should be the line in the mailcap for gifs/jpeg's? and what has my sender to do so that the type is set correctly? And how shall i view those thingies when the type is set wrong? ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr ============================================================== Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (official & not reliable) http://erm6.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (inofficial & reliable :) =============================================================== the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. human population is growing.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:56:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA15305 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:56:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA00714 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:46:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA00710 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 06:46:36 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 03 Dec 96 15:46:34 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00290 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:50:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:50:42 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problem importing text In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: >> Every time I cut and paste my word processed documents the line wrapping >> is always screwed up and the apostphroes and quoatation marks change >> into U's. I've tried converting my posts to ASII and it makes no >> difference. > > Unfortunately, as a rule of thumb it often causes problems to use a >word processor to compose email or news. A text editor is much safer. >Like it or not, the Internet is still largely based on ASCII with a >hard end-of-line indication, and most word processors use other >internal mechanisms. Some WP's allow exporting of a document in ASCII, >but even then there can be gotchas. I suggest a text editor over a >word processor. There is another "dirty" solution, though. You can save it as "DOS with codes" in Word (if you use it, which you shouldn't, of course). This way, you can keep your Umlaute, however, you'll lose the "apostrophes" which probably aren't apostrophes, anyway, but rather special characters. Cheers, Robin ++--+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Bonner Talweg 56 53113 Bonn Germany Tel (0228) 22 21 78 Fax (0228) 22 21 79 email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++--+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++--+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:22:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA20323 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA29413 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:17:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA29409 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:17:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vUwZS-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 07:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Hutchinson Subject: Re: header parsing pine problem...Blank Lines. Date: Sun, 01 Dec 1996 20:52:40 -0500 Message-ID: <32A23668.3EA8B4A@pfc.mit.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know one important way in which a spurious blank line is introduced into a mail message. It is to use cat message | sendmail -t to send a preformatted mail (e.g. when you might have used formail to put a new header on to a reply message) to whomever the mail is preaddressed to. On my system: Linux RedHat, sendmail-8.7.4, a blank line is inserted somehow after X-Status: This is particularly bad for multi-part messages because the MIME description is then not recognized. This appears to be a sendmail bug, unless there is some reason why a blank line ought to be acceptable but is not acceptable to pine. Ian Hutchinson. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:41:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA18536 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:41:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA29601 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:30:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA29597 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:30:12 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA20694 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:30:10 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:30:10 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Thanks list advice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello Have recently joined the list and much appreciate the advice and shared knowledge. AsI have become more familiar with Pine, the inevitable questions arise. I post one question/observation per email for convenience Rgds John de Boer ####################################################################### E-mail: jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au Tel/Direct:(067) 73 2639 Tel (24 hr voice mail): (02) 9975 3777 Mail: PO Box U140, University of New England, Armidale 2351, Australia ####################################################################### __o _`\<,_ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(_)/ (_)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MOUNTAINBIKING? Rides through formidable, majestic national parks around Armidale - enjoying nature or just "careering" down fire trails? It's wonderful. Marvellous. Incredible. - Call me when you're ready to go. ####################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:50:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA18640 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA29692 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:35:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA29688 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:35:17 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA29113 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:35:15 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:35:15 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: stop scrolling down Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When deleting (eg in reply mode) using Ctrl K, frequently the number of deleted lines is greater than I want. I have to undelete and start again. Is there a stop-command command that can be used? I have this problem only on Mac, not on a PC. (but I more frequently use the Mac (-: I've tried but seem unable to use the ctrl K command Using v3.93 thank you Rgds John de Boer ####################################################################### E-mail: jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au Tel/Direct:(067) 73 2639 Tel (24 hr voice mail): (02) 9975 3777 Mail: PO Box U140, University of New England, Armidale 2351, Australia ####################################################################### __o _`\<,_ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(_)/ (_)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MOUNTAINBIKING? Rides through formidable, majestic national parks around Armidale - enjoying nature or just "careering" down fire trails? It's wonderful. Marvellous. Incredible. - Call me when you're ready to go. ####################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:50:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA17260 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA29855 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:43:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA29851 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:43:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA09954 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:43:09 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:43:08 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: folder w/in folders Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII is it possible to set up folders within folders? I have a number of groupings of saved documents (different subjects) each with abut 3o folders in them. It would be more efficient I think, when saving mails, S, if I can Ctrl T first to the "subject" folder, and then to the individual folder to get the right folder for saving in. The individual folders change quite frequently. I can't remember all the folder names Using v 3.93 Rgds John de Boer ####################################################################### E-mail: jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au Tel/Direct:(067) 73 2639 Tel (24 hr voice mail): (02) 9975 3777 Mail: PO Box U140, University of New England, Armidale 2351, Australia ####################################################################### __o _`\<,_ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(_)/ (_)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MOUNTAINBIKING? Rides through formidable, majestic national parks around Armidale - enjoying nature or just "careering" down fire trails? It's wonderful. Marvellous. Incredible. - Call me when you're ready to go. ####################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:51:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA18296 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA29912 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:46:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA29906 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:46:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA32659 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:46:35 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:46:34 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: fax to email Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is prob off-topic I would like to fax document to my email account and then EDIT the text. I've got about 40 a4 pages of text. Would save me a lot of input typing Don't have access to a OCR scanner Rgds John de Boer ####################################################################### E-mail: jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au Tel/Direct:(067) 73 2639 Tel (24 hr voice mail): (02) 9975 3777 Mail: PO Box U140, University of New England, Armidale 2351, Australia ####################################################################### __o _`\<,_ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(_)/ (_)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MOUNTAINBIKING? Rides through formidable, majestic national parks around Armidale - enjoying nature or just "careering" down fire trails? It's wonderful. Marvellous. Incredible. - Call me when you're ready to go. ####################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:51:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA18679 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA29782 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:39:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA29776 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:39:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA07530 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:39:21 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:39:21 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer Reply-To: John de Boer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: stop scrolling Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When scrolling down the list of folders (i have about 120) the scrolling frequently passes the folder I need. Is there a stop-command command that can be used? Using v3.93 Rgds John de Boer ####################################################################### E-mail: jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au Tel/Direct:(067) 73 2639 Tel (24 hr voice mail): (02) 9975 3777 Mail: PO Box U140, University of New England, Armidale 2351, Australia ####################################################################### __o _`\<,_ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(_)/ (_)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MOUNTAINBIKING? Rides through formidable, majestic national parks around Armidale - enjoying nature or just "careering" down fire trails? It's wonderful. Marvellous. Incredible. - Call me when you're ready to go. ####################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:21:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA21646 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA02405 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:10:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA02397 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:10:30 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:00:05 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id RAA29519; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:00:22 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:59:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: John de Boer cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: stop scrolling down In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" There is no "Stop deleting" command. This is mainly because each ^K deletes one line. Ergo you should only type the number of ^K's you actually need to delete the text. It sounds like either your Mac, network link or host is introducing a delay, and you are getting lost with the number of ^K's you have typed. Or perhaps you are holding down the ^K and using auto-repeat to delete lots of lines? If so it is very difficult to judge when to release the key because of all the buffering of keystrokes that can be happening on your Mac, in your network link, or on your mainframe. If you have a number of lines of text to delete try NOT using ^K to do so, but to mark the block and THEN use ^K. This will delete all the lines within the marked section: ... move to first line of block to be deleted ^^ ... set the mark ... move to last line to be deleted ^K ... delete the block Notes: * Some Mac terminal emulators require ^^ (Control/^ -- that's circumflex, NOT Up Arrow!) to by typed as Control+Shift+6. * If you can't get ^^ typed in try Escape-Escape-^ * A second ^^ (or Escape-Escape-6) will cancel the remove the mark. * If you change your mind after deleting the block type ^U to UnCut it and get it back. * You can uncut text after moving the cursor elsewhere. This is a useful way of moving a paragraph from one part of the message to another. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, John de Boer wrote: > When deleting (eg in reply mode) using Ctrl K, frequently the number of > deleted lines is greater than I want. I have to undelete and start again. > > Is there a stop-command command that can be used? > > I have this problem only on Mac, not on a PC. (but I more frequently use > the Mac (-: > > I've tried but seem unable to use the ctrl K command > > Using v3.93 > > thank you > > Rgds > > John de Boer From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:52:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA22216 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA03242 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:41:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from skutt.creighton.edu (skutt.creighton.edu [147.134.2.226]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA03218 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:41:09 -0800 Received: from localhost by skutt.creighton.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA009084850; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 11:40:50 -0600 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 11:40:50 -0600 (CST) From: Hollie Mello To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Got a question. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whoever is reading these things, I got a question. Back in Gretna where I used to have e-mail, we had a telephone type thing where you could call someone up and write to them in a phone coversation sort of way. We don't have that here at Skutt and I would like to know how to set it up. Any help is appreciated. Hollie Mello hmello@skutt.creighton.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:52:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA22535 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA03224 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:41:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA03211 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:40:32 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:31:00 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id RAA12357; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:31:23 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:30:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: John de Boer cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: stop scrolling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" No, there is no "Stop" command. As with your previous message you must be either typing in the Down Arrow key too often, or else holding it down and letting it auto-repeat. Instead try using the additional navigation commands that move by a screenful at a time instead of just one item at a time. When composing a message these are ^V and ^Y for next and previous screenful respectively. In the screens for the index of your messages, folders, and in most other places (eg, Address Book and online help) these are SPACE and - for next and previous screenfuls respectively. These are almost invariably shown in the Command Menu at the bottom of the display if you're not sure which applies for any given screen. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, John de Boer wrote: > When scrolling down the list of folders (i have about 120) the scrolling > frequently passes the folder I need. > > Is there a stop-command command that can be used? > > John de Boer From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:54:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA22538 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA03237 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:41:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA03217 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:40:57 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:39:11 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id RAA15320; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:39:35 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:39:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: John de Boer cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: folder w/in folders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Using present Pine/IMAP technology it is not possible to set up truly hierarchical folders (folders within folders within folders ...). However you will probably find that Pine's concept of "collections" of folders adequate for your needs. A collection is a group of related folders. For example I have a collection about "Software", one for "People", and one for "Information" in addition to my default "Mail" collection. These show up as "main-level" items in the Folder List screen which can be quickly Arrow-ed between. Once on the collection of interest you press Return to "expand" it and see the names of the folders within it. When saving messages to a folder, or switching between them, you can use ^N and ^P to move between collections, before tpying in the folder name (or using ^T to list the folders in the collection). You set up collections of folders in Pine's Setup Configuration screen. Please see the built-in help there and elsewhere (eg, probably on the Folder List screen) for further details. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, John de Boer wrote: > is it possible to set up folders within folders? > > I have a number of groupings of saved documents (different subjects) each > with abut 3o folders in them. > > It would be more efficient I think, when saving mails, S, if I can Ctrl T > first to the "subject" folder, and then to the individual folder to get > the right folder for saving in. > > The individual folders change quite frequently. I can't remember all the > folder names > > Using v 3.93 > > Rgds > > John de Boer From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:08:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA25980 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:08:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA08750 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:03:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA08746 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:03:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vV1v3-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 12:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jca@bighorn.accessnv.com (J.C. Archambeau) Subject: Locking out bulk e-mail... Date: 27 Nov 1996 13:59:13 GMT Message-ID: <57hhfh$ii@raven.eva.net> I have been receiving lots of bulk e-mail lately. Is there a way for a user to some how block out receiving bulk e-mail or is that something my ISP has to do for me? I will probably be having my ISP changing my service so I will be a Unix site dialing into his system via FreeBSD rather than having a shell account on their system. Whichever way it needs to be done, I am interested to know the strategy necessary to get rid of this nuisance. -- /* ** Internet: jca@accessnv.com | Don't blame me, I didn't vote for Clinton. ** jca@anv.net | Intel is the word for 'errata.' */ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:16:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA24966 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA11037 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:13:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA11033 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:13:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vV26g-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 13:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Duic Subject: Re: Integration of pine and PGP Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 11:24:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > > Please let me know if one have succesfuly integrate pine with pgp on > SCO Open Server 5.0. I have found some scripts on the net but they have > errors and some functions which they are use are not implemented in SCO > commands. > > Any help or hint will be helpfull > Please send your comments directly to : > > I have try to customize these utils ... > > ftp://ftp.pgp.net/pub/pgp.utils/pine/pgppine.tar.gz > > E-Mail: robert@wimal.waw.pl > > > Particualry there is a problem with -cbreak option of stty comand. Such option doesn't exist in SCO's stty and i don't know how to adjust the script. This is the problematic part of pgpdecode Perl script: ---------- if (! (@ARGV[0] =~ /dontask/i) ) { # option -dontask given? # no -dontask: print STDERR "Message uses PGP, do you wish to run PGP on it? [Y/n] "; system("/bin/stty cbreak < /dev/tty"); # read char without pressing RETURN open (IN, " Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:27:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA10111 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:27:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA09451 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:23:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA09447 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:23:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vV2H8-00038YC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 13:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David M. Fogarty" Message-ID: <32A23ACA.1DDD@wsg.net> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 1996 21:11:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Pine 3.95 and pine.conf/pine.conf.fixed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, Just a quick question for today. I recently installed q-mail on my system to replace sendmail. One of the things required by this install is moving the mail folders to the users directories. System is FreeBSD 2.1.5-Release, Pine is version 3.95. I would like to set up Pine to default to a file (Mailbox) in the user's home directory. I know I need to set inbox-path=Mailbox but for some reason Pine seems to ignore it's system wide configuration file. If you specify the system wide file, it works fine. I've got pine.conf in /usr/local/lib/ as specified as the default location for the global config file in the man pages.... Where'd I go wrong? Thanks for any pointers!! -Dave PS: An e-mailed reply in addition to a follow up post is greatly appreciated as my news feed isn't all that great ;) -- ~|~|_ _ | _ _ _| _ |` /~`|_ _ _ _ | | |(/_ |_(_)| (_| (_)~|~ \_,| |(_((_)_\ Ever been to the Realm of Chaos? Check it out!! http://www.wsg.net/~chaos | chaos@wsg.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:41:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA26908 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA11705 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:38:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA11701 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:38:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vV2Wp-00038TC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 13:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shohreh Bozorgmehri Subject: Approval Header for Moderated Newsgroup Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 10:16:20 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have recently joined the list and would like to ask ... How the approval header can be added to a mail message (for a moderated newsgroup using PINE). I appreciate any help anyone can provide. Shohreh (shohreh@uci.edu) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:31:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA28142 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA10978 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:27:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.137]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA10974 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:27:36 -0800 Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu (songj@rac6.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.106]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.8.2/8.8.0) with ESMTP id RAA02969 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (songj@localhost) by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.8.3/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA08071 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:27:27 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac6.wam.umd.edu: songj owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:27:26 -0500 (EST) From: john songster To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unable to print Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ever since installing Smith Micro (U.S.Robotics) communications software QuickLink, I have been unable to Print. Nothing else has changed with my system. Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for me? When selecting prYnt, the message window appears to get scanned, but no print queue appears at the bottom of the screen nothing prints. John Songster From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:36:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA28460 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA11164 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:33:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA11160 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:33:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vV3Kv-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 14:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: pine 4.0 suggestion Date: 3 Dec 1996 13:47:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <57lp5m$v2m@netnews.upenn.edu> mrobinsn@credit.wharton.upenn.edu (Mike Robinson) writes: >One thing that might be nice is to have a location for all of pines >files, such as the .pinerc, .pine-debug, pico-saves, .addressbooks,etc. >Just like elm has the ".elm" directory, I'd like to have a ~/.pine and >then put all these bloody files in there. I agree completely! And the directory should be specifiable by the user. Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:57:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA28408 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA13579 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:53:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA13575 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:53:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vV3iJ-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 14:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: daniel12@iadfw.net (Daniel Jacobson) Subject: Re: Question: receive message problem Date: 30 Nov 1996 22:37:37 GMT Message-ID: <57qcvh$j8c@library.airnews.net> References: <32A081C9.572E@unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <32A081C9.572E@unm.edu>, ccleong@unm.edu says... > >I have one question, hope someone can help: > > I have a message need to send to 100 persons. I typed the 100 persons >e-mails address into my "nickname" (address book) . > > when I send this message to the 100 persons, they receive this >message, but the 100 persons name shown on e-mail message "to: " >session. > > my question is: How can I solve this problem? --> I don't want the >receiver see the 100 persons' names. because it is >too long and make the screen mess. 1. use BCC: for the list with your E-Mail address in the TO: field 2. Upgrade to version 3.0 and you can also use the nickname in the TO: field as long as you have entered a name on the INFO tab of the address book. (ie. Nickname: 'Newsletter', Name field on INFO tab: 'News Subscribers' then the list members will see 'News Subscribers' in the TO: field on their incoming E-Mail message. Over and Out Daniel Jacobson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:22:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA28272 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA12336 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:18:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA12332 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:18:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vV45T-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 15:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Integration of pine and PGP Date: 3 Dec 1996 13:09:26 GMT Message-ID: <5818q6$65n$2@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , Robert Duic writes: > Particualry there is a problem with -cbreak option of stty comand. > Such option doesn't exist in SCO's stty and i don't know how to > adjust the script. This is the problematic part of pgpdecode Perl script: How about an alternative way? Check this URL: http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html Cheers! BTW, the scheme in this example does not use -cbreak option ... :-) Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == Email: Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = WWW: http://uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews== == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:02:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA30644 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA15271 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:58:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA15267 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:58:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vV4i3-00038TC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 15:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Hard sorting folders Date: 30 Nov 1996 23:13:31 GMT Message-ID: <57qf2r$7a1@due.unit.no> References: <57pfre$rg6@due.unit.no> [Posted and mailed] In article , Terry Gray wrote: >Ørjan, >Aggregate operations, including save, certainly do work via IMAP. >If you have any info on what's behind the rumor to the contrary, >please let me know... The rumor I heard (actually, it was a posting here in this group, you might try DejaNews) is that while aggregate save works over IMAP, it uses an IMAP command for this, which naturally does not know about pine's internal ordering. So you cannot use it to physically reorder a folder, as the original poster of this thread requested. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:47:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA00047 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA16120 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:43:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA16116 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:43:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vV6ML-00038TC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 17:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: can't post to newsgroups Date: 2 Dec 1996 19:00:03 GMT Message-ID: References: On 2 Dec 1996 09:30:32 -0800, Chris wrote: [<-->] I am just writing to ask why I can no longer post to newsgroups. [<-->] Up until last week, I had no problems, but since then an error comes up [<-->] each time I try and doesn't allow me to post. Please get back to me as [<-->] soon as possible with some sort of explanation, for there are certain [<-->] newsgroups I must stay in contact with. Just in case, I have tried many [<-->] different newsgroups, and none of them work for me. Thank you. Now.. now.. now.. You should know better than to just ramble on without giving _ANY_ details whatsoever about your problem. :) We are not magicians here, you know! What errors are you getting? What is your environment? Have you tried to get in touch with your sys admins or NNTP admin to see if they have disallowed posting from that NNTP server? --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:42:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA00770 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA19204 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:39:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA19196 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:38:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vV7B4-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 18:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sdx@linnea.asogy.stockholm.se (Dawnshadow) Subject: IMAPd locks - why reside in /var/spool/mail? Date: 1 Dec 1996 21:55:04 GMT Message-ID: <57suro$e7b@rosa.asogy.stockholm.se> Is there a way to make imapd 4.1 (except changing big sources) write it's lockfiles somewhere else rather than in the mail spool dir? I don't feel comfortable with having /var/spool/mail as mode 1777 .. /tmp is enough! :) Greetz.. Oscar From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:42:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA00861 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA17203 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:39:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA17195 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:39:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vV7E6-00038TC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 18:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Henry Stilmack - JAC System Manager Subject: User name lookup in PC-Pine Date: 02 Dec 1996 14:00:42 -1000 Message-ID: Version PC-Pine 3.94, Windows 3.11 Is there any way to replicate the Unix Pine composer's username lookup for PC users (other than copying our passwd file)? -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Henry Stilmack Computing Systems Administrator UK/Netherlands/Canada Joint Astronomy Centre Tel: +1 808-969-6530 660 N. A'ohoku Place, Hilo, HI 96720 Fax: +1 808-969-6591 Finger for PGP key; RIPEM key on servers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:18:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA29688 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA17856 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:14:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA17852; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:14:52 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA18982; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:14:46 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:14:45 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray Reply-To: Terry Gray To: Orjan Johansen cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Hard sorting folders In-Reply-To: <57qf2r$7a1@due.unit.no> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Ørjan, I have some new info on this: In fact, sorting/saving works fine via IMAP provided that a) you are using a recent version of Pine and b) you haven't turned on the hidden feature "save-aggregates-imap-copy" --which optimizes performance but doesn't guarantee the order of the saved messages. -teg On 30 Nov 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > [Posted and mailed] > > In article , > Terry Gray wrote: > >Ørjan, > >Aggregate operations, including save, certainly do work via IMAP. > >If you have any info on what's behind the rumor to the contrary, > >please let me know... > > The rumor I heard (actually, it was a posting here in this group, you > might try DejaNews) is that while aggregate save works over IMAP, it > uses an IMAP command for this, which naturally does not know about pine's > internal ordering. So you cannot use it to physically reorder a folder, > as the original poster of this thread requested. > > Greetings, > Ørjan. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:20:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA31340 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA17909 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:17:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA17905 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:17:36 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA19040; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:17:33 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:17:33 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Dave Rasmussen cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Inbox conflict - how to deal with? In-Reply-To: <199612021942.NAA24766@opus.csd.uwm.edu> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dave, I don't have answers to your specific questions, but I believe you can at least access the miscreant inbox by doing a GOTO ~/mail/inbox (or whatever path is appropriate). -teg On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Dave Rasmussen wrote: > If pine refers to the /usr/spool/mail/$user file as the inbox and then > some user creates a folder in their mail directory called inbox, how > can I as a system administrator make sure that this either doesn't happen > or that the users will see these as seperate files? > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:08:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA19617 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA21355 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:04:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA21348 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:04:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vV9S1-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 21:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Gerald Lim" Subject: Why is Pine mixiing sentences of two messages together? Date: 4 Dec 1996 04:29:15 GMT Message-ID: <01bbe19b$e86a9460$5e2168cf@starraider> How can I stop Pine from inserting sentences from a previously read message between each sentence of the message I am currently reading? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:13:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA18260 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA20306 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:09:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA20302 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:09:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVASE-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 22:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tilmann@we1x01.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Tilmann Boess) Subject: privacy hole in pine Date: 28 Nov 1996 07:56:41 GMT Message-ID: <57jgjp$fd4@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> The versions 3.94 (tested on IBM AIX 3.2) and 3.95 (tested on Linux 2.0) (I don't know about earlier versions.) of pine include a privacy hole: If you write a new message, pine creates a backup file (named `#pico#') of the mail text in your home directory. The access mode of this file is determined by your standard umask. For most users this is set to `022', thus setting the access mode for the backup file to 644, so that the text you just write is world-readable. Also the files `~/.pinerc' and `.addressbook' are created using the default umask. IMHO these files should be readable by no one except its owner. Ok, you can choose a more private location for `.addressbook' in `~/.pinerc', but that is not possible for `~/.pinerc'. As a workaround, I created the following simple shell script and aliased pine to pine-secure: -------------------------------- #!/usr/local/bin/tcsh # /usr/local/bin/pine-secure set default_umask=`umask` umask 077 /usr/local/bin/pine $* umask $default_umask unset default_umask -------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________________ Tilmann Boess Internet: Experimentelle Physik 1 tilmann@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de Am Hubland D-97074 Wuerzburg Tel.: (++49)/(0)931-888 4904 - Germany - Fax : (++49)/(0)931-888 4906 _________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:18:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA02583 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA22342 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:14:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA22338 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:14:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVAXP-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 22:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: Iso-8859-1 ...??? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: References: <57e9q2$92h@sugar.h.belgacom.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:59:53 GMT On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > ISO-8859-1, I believe, is the standard designation, not ISO-Latin-1, > even though the character set is commonly referred to as Latin-1. That's also my interpretation. The term Latin-1 designates a repertoire of characters, without particular reference to their assignment to a character code. One could refer to DOS CP850, and EBCDIC CECP1047, as Latin-1 codes, but they certainly aren't ISO-8859-1 !! ISO-8859-1 is the specific ISO code that is defined for the Latin-1 character repertoire. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:44:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA03212 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA20762 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:39:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA20758 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 22:39:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVAwu-00038BC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 22:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: h9515668@hkusua.hku.hk (Jackie Mak) Subject: Hiding Distribution List Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 09:17:59 GMT Message-ID: <32a3eff6.17597403@news.hku.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can I hide the distribution list on To: field? My list has over 300 addresses. I use pine 3.91 and 3.93. Please email me directly. Regards, Jackie My web site: http://hkusub.hku.hk:8000/~h9515668 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:20:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA08834 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:20:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA23255 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:17:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hq.vni.net (hq.vni.net [205.252.27.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA23251 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:17:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (highway@localhost) by hq.vni.net (8.6.12/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA08110; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:17:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:17:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Abort, Retry, Ignore, Fail?" To: Jackie Mak cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Hiding Distribution List In-Reply-To: <32a3eff6.17597403@news.hku.hk> Message-ID: X-Confirm-Reading-To: highway@vni.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Jackie Mak wrote: > How can I hide the distribution list on To: field? > My list has over 300 addresses. > I use pine 3.91 and 3.93. > Please email me directly. use the Bcc: field. > > > Regards, > Jackie > > My web site: http://hkusub.hku.hk:8000/~h9515668 > "THE FATE OF BILLIONS ALL DEPEND ON YOU... HEH HEH HEH ... SORRY." - RAYDEN John "Highway" Tze-Chang Wu Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Svc Fraternity highway@vni.net highway@wam.umd.edu (Epsilon Mu) http://www.vni.net/~highway http://www.wam.umd.edu/~highway (World Wide Web Developer) (Home of NBC Friends WEB Page) ======================[Chapter Treasurer - Fall 1996]====================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:29:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA19470 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA23351 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:24:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA23347 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:24:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVBXi-00038ZC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 23:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Subject: cmsg cancel <01bbdff8$71799ee0$7ec0d8cd@nort> Date: 3 Dec 1996 01:41:24 GMT Control: cancel <01bbdff8$71799ee0$7ec0d8cd@nort> Message-ID: Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19961203.14. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19961203.14.html for complete report. Original Subject: Send a Personalized Santa Letter to a Child From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:07:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA01617 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA21952 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:04:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA21948 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:04:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVC5C-00038cC; Tue, 3 Dec 96 23:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dan@beach.net (Dan Busarow) Subject: Re: Integration of pine and PGP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:40:41 GMT In article , Robert Duic writes: > Particualry there is a problem with -cbreak option of stty comand. > Such option doesn't exist in SCO's stty and i don't know how to > adjust the script. This is the problematic part of pgpdecode Perl script: Don't bother with that line. Leave it out. All that will happen is that you have to press [Enter] after entering the y or n. Dan -- Dan Busarow DPC Systems / BeachNet Dana Point, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:57:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA04066 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:57:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA24671 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:54:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA24667 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:54:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVD67-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 00:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: stop scrolling down Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 20:57:08 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Dec 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > * Some Mac terminal emulators require ^^ (Control/^ -- that's circumflex, > NOT Up Arrow!) to by typed as Control+Shift+6. How should one else type that character? I just got it to work with PCPine with Ctrl-Shift-6 (I was just about to ask how I cuold get that character anyway), since I have a Swedish keyboard, and those only have circumflex as a deadkey (shift-diaeresis). (Shift-6 is '&'). Hmm, seems Ctrl-6 worked to... \\// Peter - Sladdpost: m9944@abc.se - Webb: http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:28:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA02657 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA23122 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:24:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA23118 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:24:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVDVy-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 01:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mrobinsn@credit.wharton.upenn.edu (Mike Robinson) Subject: pine 4.0 suggestion Date: 29 Nov 1996 04:35:02 GMT Message-ID: <57lp5m$v2m@netnews.upenn.edu> One thing that might be nice is to have a location for all of pines files, such as the .pinerc, .pine-debug, pico-saves, .addressbooks,etc. Just like elm has the ".elm" directory, I'd like to have a ~/.pine and then put all these bloody files in there. -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ Mike Robinson : The Wharton School : 3620 Locust Walk Suite 2400 : mrobinsn@wharton.upenn.edu Philadelphia, PA 19104 : V://215.898.2761 F://215.573.2054 : - Write Me! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:32:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA04240 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA25127 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:29:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA25123 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:29:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVDae-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 01:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbuntin@linux.scott.home (Scott Buntin) Subject: Re: Can PINE be used to forward email to another ISP? Date: 4 Dec 1996 06:44:08 GMT Message-ID: References: <3.0.16.19961202152326.3767fec2@wolfenet.com> On 2 Dec 1996 15:47:01 -0800, Timothy Luoma wrote: > >put a file in your home directory with the email address of the other ISP >in it. > >name the file ".forward" > >TjL Make that "*your* email address at the other ISP." -- -- Scott Buntin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:48:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA02072 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:47:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA23442 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:44:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA23438 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:44:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVDra-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 01:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kjell Andresen Subject: macros in (future) pine? Date: 3 Dec 1996 10:16:51 GMT Message-ID: <580umj$5l0@ratatosk.uio.no> Hello! I've checked through the online help as well as http://www.washington.edu/pine/ and underlying pages without finding anything about macros. I've been using the aggregate command set and miss the abillity to use macros e.g to select all messages in a folder and apply the delete-commando to them and then purge the deleted items ;aadxy Or e.g to select all messages with a special subject and delete them: ;ts"subject-text-to-select"d If it is already possible and I justed missed any documentation on the subject please notify me and update your Q&A page with the answer! TIA Kjell Andresen Systems administrator, University of Oslo, Norway Center for Information Technology Services and Department of Geophysics From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:00:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA05432 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:00:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA26329 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:54:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA26325 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:54:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVEu9-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 02:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: 19 Nov 1996 21:53:04 -0500 Message-ID: <56trqg$351@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: <567bj6$fmq@news.duke.edu> Holger Lillqvist wrote: : Wouldn't it be better if the pine team concentrated on making the mail : program better and faster, and at least for the time being left the news : business to specialists? I feel exactly the same way. Perhaps, enhanced support for IMAP4 is much more desirable than spending a lot of time to enhance news reader part of Pine(threading,kill file,etc). Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:07:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA05797 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA24532 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:04:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA24528 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:04:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVF60-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 03:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Duic Subject: Re: Integration of pine and PGP Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:52:12 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5818q6$65n$2@news.ececs.uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5818q6$65n$2@news.ececs.uc.edu> Thanks, it works *but* .... :( When I am sending the mail with pine 3.94 and choose the option to pass the outgoing mail thru filter pgpencrypt, all works fine, the mail is corectly encrypted and sent but after that i am not able to go back to pine menu. The screen freeze with note that 100% mail has been sent and after that pine stops to response on *any* keystroke :( The only way is to *kill* the pine proces. The same happened when I try to reade pgp-encoded mesage. :( E-Mail: robert@wimal.waw.pl On 3 Dec 1996, Jie Yuan wrote: > In article , > Robert Duic writes: > > > Particualry there is a problem with -cbreak option of stty comand. > > Such option doesn't exist in SCO's stty and i don't know how to > > adjust the script. This is the problematic part of pgpdecode Perl script: > > How about an alternative way? Check this URL: > > http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp..html > > Cheers! > > BTW, the scheme in this example does not use -cbreak option ... :-) > > Jie > -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- > == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == > == Email: Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = WWW: http://uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews== > == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:29:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA05478 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:29:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA24787 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:24:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA24783 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:24:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVFO7-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 03:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: stop scrolling Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:56:40 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On 3 Dec 1996, John de Boer wrote: > When scrolling down the list of folders (i have about 120) the scrolling > frequently passes the folder I need. Instead of scrolling the list and looking for the folder name by eyes, use ^W to search for the folder. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:29:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA31718 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:29:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA26704 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:24:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA26700 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 03:24:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVFMm-00038TC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 03:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: stop scrolling down Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:54:55 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On 3 Dec 1996, John de Boer wrote: > When deleting (eg in reply mode) using Ctrl K, frequently the number of > deleted lines is greater than I want. I have to undelete and start again. You can use ^^ to mark the block of text to be deleted. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 04:46:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA20586 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 04:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA27858 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 04:40:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA27854 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 04:40:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVGa3-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 04:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chet Lad Subject: Receiving forwarded mail Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:18:37 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Whenever I receive forwarded mail from mailtool (another unix based gui type mailer), it comes into my INBOX as two separate messages. If I receive a forwarded piece of from another pine user, then it comes into my INBOX normally (as one message). Any ideas? Chet --------------------------------------------------------- Chet Lad Phone: (905) 882-2600 CAD Engineer Ext: 8484 Fax: (905) 882-9339 ATI TECHNOLOGIES INC. 33 Commerce Valley Drive East Thornhill, Ontario Canada L3T 7N6 Email: clad@ATItech.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 05:12:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA04796 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 05:12:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA26279 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 05:05:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA26275 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 05:05:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVGvo-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 05:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: how to set up filters in pine? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:21:45 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Jason Burnett wrote: > i need to set up pine so that it puts all emails coming > from a certain email address in it's own folder automatically. Pine doesn't do this. See if Procmail or Elm Filter are installed on your system ... they do what you described. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:04:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA07119 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA28745 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:00:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA28741 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:00:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVHox-00038XC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 05:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Reply to all recipients? Date: 2 Dec 1996 15:02:13 GMT Message-ID: Guys, Is it possible to turn off the 'Reply to all recipients?' question when I hit 'R' to reply to a email? i.e. can it be set to either always-yes or always-no so that this question can be skipped? It is not too annoying but a feature for this would certainly be appreciated. I am using Pine 4.0 on Solaris 2.5 Thanks, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:32:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA25652 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA29102 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:27:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA29095 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:27:41 -0800 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA04616; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:01:35 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa28419; 4 Dec 96 14:56 WET Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:56:05 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 4.0 suggestion In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Dec 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > mrobinsn@credit.wharton.upenn.edu (Mike Robinson) writes: > >One thing that might be nice is to have a location for all of pines > >files, such as the .pinerc, .pine-debug, pico-saves, .addressbooks,etc. > I agree completely! And the directory should be specifiable by the > user. Yes, but if the directory should be specifiable by the user, where would such a specification go? In .pinerc perhaps? :-) (I know, I know, you could solve this with an environment variable. But that's not something you want to spring on unexperienced users...). Cheers! - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Open minds use Open Systems | | CI International. The Netherlands | (which O.S. are you using?) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:32:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA07150 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA27304 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:28:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA27297 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:28:14 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:33/EUnetD-2.6.1.a) via EUnet id PAA12055; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:27:59 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id PAA06283; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:26:13 +0100 From: kompf@ife-le.de Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:53:16 +0100 (MET) To: Bruno Boettcher cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: viewing/mailcap problems... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: -> hello, -> -> i just received a mail with teh following content: -> [Part 2, Application/OCTET-STREAM (Name: "FIBU.DE") 4.4KB] -> [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] -> -> -> [Part 3, Application/OCTET-STREAM (Name: "PIZZAP1.GIF") 4.1KB] -> [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] -> -> now the first one is only an ascii-file and the second as the name says a -> gif. -> -> As i tryed to view them i got a -> [VIEWER Result: sh: hd: command not found] -> error.... -> -> which is in conformance with my .mailcap (i corrected hd to od BTW) -> now how should be the line in the mailcap for gifs/jpeg's? and what has my -> sender to do so that the type is set correctly? -> -> And how shall i view those thingies when the type is set wrong? -> -> ciao -> bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr -> -> ============================================================== -> Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr -> http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (official & not reliable) -> http://erm6.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (inofficial & reliable :) -> =============================================================== -> the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. -> human population is growing.... -> I'm using xv to view images. So the line in my mailcap is image/*; xv %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 07:01:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA05861 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 07:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA29507 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:57:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from paknet1.ptc.pk ([203.135.0.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA29498 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 06:56:52 -0800 From: arbab@paknet1.ptc.pk Received: by paknet1.ptc.pk; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Apr96-0132PM) id AA06932; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:56:06 +0500 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:56:06 +0500 Message-Id: <9612041456.AA06932@paknet1.ptc.pk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Dear Sir, Please send us some message to check the mail service becaus its seems to be not in working order. Thank arbab@paknet1.ptc.pk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 07:09:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA07470 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 07:09:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA29672 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 07:06:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA29665 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 07:06:42 -0800 Received: (qmail 18610 invoked from network); 4 Dec 1996 15:06:38 -0000 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@130.79.74.66) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr with SMTP; 4 Dec 1996 15:06:38 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:06:38 +0100 (MET) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: kompf@ife-le.de cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: viewing/mailcap problems... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > I'm using xv to view images. So the line in my mailcap is > image/*; xv %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" ok found that seems to be there by default... remain the other two questions: (1) what has the sender to do to set the type correctly? (2) How do i view those misconfigured attachments ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr ============================================================== Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (official & not reliable) http://erm6.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (inofficial & reliable :) =============================================================== the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. human population is growing.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 07:45:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA02706 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 07:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA28391 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 07:40:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA28387 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 07:40:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVJP6-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 07:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: palacio@quijote.lang.usf.edu (Eric g. Palacio) Subject: PC-Pine, attaching files under Win95 and long file names: HELP Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 12:55:14 GMT Message-ID: <32a421b5.28130888@news.usf.edu> Hello, Sorry if this is a FAQ, I searched the Pine home page but didn't not find anything on the topic. When I use ^J ^T to attach a file in PC-Pine (3.95) under Win95, and if part of the path contains a space (eg: c:\My Documents\test.doc) PC-Pine cannot locate the file. I tried playing around with quotation marks but with no success. The only way too get it to work is to either edit the path or enter it manually to use the standard DOS 8.3 convention for file names (eg: c:\mydocu~1\test.doc), which renders the ^T feature pretty useless. Any config setting I overlooked or any way around it? Thansk for your help Eric Eric G. Palacio Division of Languages and Linguistics University of South Florida, Tampa (813) 974-3155 palacio@quijote.lang.usf.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 08:45:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA32357 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 08:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA29655 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 08:40:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA29651 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 08:40:51 -0800 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA02627; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:01:44 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa01929; 4 Dec 96 16:39 WET Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:39:55 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering Reply-To: Richard Gering To: Robert Duic Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Integration of pine and PGP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Robert Duic wrote: > Thanks, it works *but* .... :( > > When I am sending the mail with pine 3.94 and choose the option to pass > the outgoing mail thru filter pgpencrypt, all works fine, the mail is > corectly encrypted and sent but after that i am not able to go back to > pine menu. > > The screen freeze with note that 100% mail has been sent and > after that pine stops to response on *any* keystroke :( > > The only way is to *kill* the pine proces. The same happened when I try > to reade pgp-encoded mesage. :( There was a signal problem in the SCO Unix version of Pine 3.94 that caused Pine to lock up when remote commands (like filters) where being issued. This problem was fixed in the next release by switching to System V signal handling. Your choices therefore are to either switch to Pine 3.95, or to uncomment the line that defines SYSV_SIGNALS in pine/osdep/os-sco.h and rebuild. Hope this helps! Kind regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Open minds use Open Systems | | CI International. The Netherlands | (which O.S. are you using?) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:31:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA10770 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA00872 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:24:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cgate.ace.sait.ab.ca (cgate.ace.sait.ab.ca [142.110.131.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA00859 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:24:01 -0800 Received: from DN-RELAY by cgate.sait.ab.ca (PMDF V5.0-7 #15163) id <01ICLXH2JHA88WY27L@cgate.sait.ab.ca> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 04 Dec 1996 10:25:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from it.sait.ab.ca (mail.mp.sait.ab.ca) by acdm.sait.ab.ca (PMDF V5.0-6 #9279) id <01ICLXDJ2YK08WXDY2@acdm.sait.ab.ca> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 04 Dec 1996 10:23:01 -0700 (MST) Received: by it.sait.ab.ca; id AA15734; Wed, 04 Dec 1996 10:22:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 10:22:16 -0700 (MST) From: steve belmore Subject: Printing from Unix to a dial-up console To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:13:22 -0700 (MST) From: steve belmore To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Subject: Greeting! We use Pine 3.85 on the Unix system here at the Southern Alberta Institute of Technology, and I think that most of us enjoy it a lot. There is a programming FEATURE in Pine, not a bug, that I would like to understand. Pine will print by default to my computer printer when I am connected to our SAIT system through dial-in access. I'm at home using the system over the telephone line and a VT-220 terminal emulation. I would like to be able to issue a Unix system command that would do this. I have tried numerous approaches. I've read all your documentation (whew), and the setup files. I've queried all of the Unix people in the school, including the most expert Unix instructor. None of them know how it is done. Unix in a Nutshell doesn't give away the secret either. Please tell me how you did this. If I need to write a C program to do this would you send me the critical code. I will thank you in advance. One of my objectives for this semester has been to track this down and you seem to be the best possible hope. Thanks again. Steve Belmore From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:56:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA10208 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:56:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA01566 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:53:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogonip.scs.unr.edu (pogonip.scs.unr.edu [134.197.222.131]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA01556 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:53:24 -0800 Received: from chemgrad.mines.unr.edu (chemgrad.mines.unr.edu [134.197.44.161]) by pogonip.scs.unr.edu (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17892 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:53:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:52:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Mirna Martinovic" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: mirna@postoffice.scs.unr.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have not been receiving messages regularly in last 4-5 weeks and I do not know how to find them. I would appreciate if you help me solve this problem because spme of these messages are very important. My adress is: mirna@scs.unr.edu Thank you, Mirna From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:39:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA11990 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA02703 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:35:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wisco.wimal.waw.pl (wisco.wimal.waw.pl [193.59.131.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA02651 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:35:02 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:35:26 +0100 (MET) From: Robert Duic To: Richard Gering cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Integration of pine and PGP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you very much for your submission! I was suspicious about pine and i have compiled pine3.95! All works fine! I was only suprised with the largenes of the binary pine! It is almous 4 MB large. The previous version was only 1.8 MB large. Anyway oncemore muchos gracias ! Best regards, Robert Duic WIMAL International Phone: (48 22) 47-94-62 Fax: (48 22) 47-94-22 E-Mail: robert@wimal.waw.pl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:05:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA09503 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:05:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA05161 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:59:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA05151 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:59:35 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA03360; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:59:24 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:59:23 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Vikas Agnihotri cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply to all recipients? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Vikas, No, not currently. If there was to be such an option, would you rather have it "always-yes" or "always-no" ? (And what's the probability that most folks would agree? :) -teg On 2 Dec 1996, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: > > Guys, > Is it possible to turn off the > 'Reply to all recipients?' question when I hit 'R' to reply to a > email? > i.e. can it be set to either always-yes or always-no so that this > question can be skipped? It is not too annoying but a feature > for this would certainly be appreciated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:09:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA32306 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA05335 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:05:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cagw1.att.com (cagw1.att.com [192.128.52.89]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA05331; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:05:52 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from socrates.insight.att.com by caig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id OAA28926; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:07:51 -0500 Received: from joshua.insight.att.com (joshua.insight.att.com [135.205.200.52]) by socrates.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25056; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:04:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:04:29 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: Terry Gray Original-cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply to all recipients? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Terry Gray wrote: [<-->] Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:59:23 -0800 (PST) [<-->] From: Terry Gray [<-->] Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu [<-->] Subject: Re: Reply to all recipients? [<-->] [<-->] Vikas, [<-->] No, not currently. [<-->] [<-->] If there was to be such an option, would you rather have it "always-yes" [<-->] or "always-no" ? (And what's the probability that most folks would [<-->] agree? :) [<-->] [<-->] -teg Thanks for responding No.. No. I did not mean to imply that it should be SET to always-yes or always-no. Of course not. Put 3 Pine users in a room and I am sure all 3 would have different opinions :) It could be a user-specified Pine feature similar to all the other features out there. So if I dont want to be bothered by the question, I would simply set that feature. In fact, it could be user-configurable via Setup/Config (.pinerc) to be one of 3 values: o Always-yes o Always-no o Always-ask-user (the present situation) (sigh...) anyway, here's to hoping that you wonderful guys out there at CAC implement this feature soon. --Vikas [<-->] [<-->] On 2 Dec 1996, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: [<-->] [<-->] > [<-->] > Guys, [<-->] > Is it possible to turn off the [<-->] > 'Reply to all recipients?' question when I hit 'R' to reply to a [<-->] > email? [<-->] > i.e. can it be set to either always-yes or always-no so that this [<-->] > question can be skipped? It is not too annoying but a feature [<-->] > for this would certainly be appreciated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:05:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA01602 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA08494 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:01:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA08489 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:01:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVPJ5-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 13:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "\"Multiservices\"" Subject: MAIL OFF-LINE & WIN95 Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 07:44:26 +0100 Message-ID: <32A51DCA.1719@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, When I try to read my mail off line with Netscape or Internet Mail I have a dialog box saying : "DNS not found ...." Is it possible to configurate Netscape (or Internet Mail) not to look for the connexion ? If you know, thanks for answering. Daniel KUROCZYCKI email : mlts20@wanadoo.fr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:29:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA18012 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:29:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA09167 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:26:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA09161 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:26:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVPjJ-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 14:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Sending from the command line Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 21:56:32 GMT Message-ID: <584ruq$9uv@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <329C3424.4598@nt.com> On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Francois Babin wrote: >I am using Pine3.95 with a remote SMTP server because I >don't have sendmail installed on my UNIX box (HP-UX). >Can I somehow call the pine command and send a mail >using a content file and WITHOUT starting the whole >pine menu ? For me, the following sort-of does what you want (I think): pine (recipient's address) < text-file This puts me in COMPOSE mode with the message body and TO: fields already in place. I fill in the SUBJECT line, hit CTRL-X to send and I'm back at the system prompt, never having seen any Pine menus. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:35:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA17777 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA11160 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:31:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA11151 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:31:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVPqK-00038BC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 14:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: newsgroups Date: 26 Nov 1996 12:29:03 GMT Message-ID: References: On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:46:02 +930, Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> wrote: [You wrote ] The reason that all groups show up in both collections is that there can [You wrote ] only be one newsrc file. Well. thats because Pine __supports__ only ONE newsrc file. A lo t of other newsreaders out there support a per-NNTP-server newsrc file so that you can have adifferent newsrc file for each NNTP server that you use.. Oh well.. here is to hoping that NNTP is standardised soon and the good folks over at CAC,Washington implement all the wonderful Newsreading 'features' already found in many newsreaders out there.. --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:00:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA09636 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA20445 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:57:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA20441 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:57:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVYbf-00038UC; Wed, 4 Dec 96 23:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfreeman@interaccess.com (Richard E. Freeman) Subject: Re: How to add address(s) using T (TakeAddr) ??? Date: 4 Dec 1996 07:43:12 GMT Message-ID: <583a2g$4o8@nntp.interaccess.com> References: <57pu5n$jhn@fiber.eng.umd.edu> Thomas Yoon (toy@Glue.umd.edu) wrote: : : Hi all. Can someone tell me how I can add address(s) to existing : distribution list by using T (TakeAddr) command, so that I don't have : to manually type in all the names and addresses? : Much thanks in advance. : : -- : _________________________________________________________________ : Thomas Yoon toy@glue.umd.edu http://www.glue.umd.edu/~toy -- You have to set up a mailing list with a name, say "list1" When using the T function, choose the address you want added to list1. Pine will ask you for an abbreviation of the name you have chosen. Type "list1" as the abbreviation and then choose the "add" option to add the address to the list. You can do this indefinitely. Rich Freeman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:30:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA10551 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA23209 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:27:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA23201 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:27:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVZ6E-00038UC; Thu, 5 Dec 96 00:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: showie@uoguelph.ca.foo (Steve Howie) Subject: Re: Integration of pine and PGP Date: 4 Dec 1996 20:12:52 GMT Message-ID: <584m04$336@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: On 4 Dec 1996 10:41:07 -0800, Robert Duic wrote: > >Thank you very much for your submission! > >I was suspicious about pine and i have compiled pine3.95! > >All works fine! I was only suprised with the largenes of the binary pine! >It is almous 4 MB large. The previous version was only 1.8 MB large. > It's only 1.7Mb. running here under HP-UX (we also have a fairly fat local mod too). Make sure you strip the executable - that'll shave a *lot* of size off of it if you're worried about that. Also, executable size varies depending on the architecture of the machine you are running Pine on. Scotty ========================================================================= Steve Howie | **Remove the .foo when replying** NetNews and Listserv Admin. | (519) 824-4120 x2556 University of Guelph | showie@uoguelph.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:59:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA04040 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA21217 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:57:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA21213 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:57:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVZXN-00038BC; Thu, 5 Dec 96 00:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: Hiding Distribution List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 04:15:39 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <32a3eff6.17597403@news.hku.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 3 Dec 1996, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:58:37 GMT, Eric Tse wrote: > [<-->] On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Jackie Mak wrote: > [<-->] > [<-->] > How can I hide the distribution list on To: field? > [<-->] > My list has over 300 addresses. > [<-->] > [<-->] Put the list of addresses in the BCC field, and put at least 1 address > [<-->] in the TO field (necessary). > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > A 'To:' address is not necessary. [ snipped ] Thanks for the information. Things are now much better than back in Pine 3.89. :-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 01:50:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA27036 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 01:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA24176 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 01:47:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA24172 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 01:47:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVaL0-00038BC; Thu, 5 Dec 96 01:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jcrepa@cns.nyu.edu (Chris Repa) Subject: cmsg cancel <57i784$of4@news.nyu.edu> Control: cancel <57i784$of4@news.nyu.edu> Date: 27 Nov 1996 20:23:48 GMT Message-ID: <57i80k$pfa@news.nyu.edu> References: <57i784$of4@news.nyu.edu> <57i784$of4@news.nyu.edu> was cancelled from within rn. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:02:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA27343 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA24950 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 02:57:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA24937 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 02:56:33 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:53:38 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA22384; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:54:03 GMT Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:54:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Robert Duic cc: Richard Gering , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Integration of pine and PGP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Make sure that you changed the Makefiles to, for example: Change "-g" C compilation to "-O" This optimises your code instead of leaving it unoptimised and with lots of additional information for the debugger. Consider _not_ having the "-DDEBUG" option to the C compiler This omits certain debugging code within Pine (including the stuff which generates the $HOME/.pine-debugN files). Check your C compiler will use shared C libraries by default Using shared libraries can also reduce the size of the final executable file. Having compiled Pine make sure you: strip pine to remove unnecessary symbol table information from the executable. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Robert Duic wrote: > > Thank you very much for your submission! > > I was suspicious about pine and i have compiled pine3.95! > > All works fine! I was only suprised with the largenes of the binary pine! > It is almous 4 MB large. The previous version was only 1.8 MB large. > > Anyway oncemore muchos gracias ! > > > Best regards, > > > > Robert Duic > WIMAL International > > Phone: (48 22) 47-94-62 > Fax: (48 22) 47-94-22 > E-Mail: robert@wimal.waw.pl > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:17:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA28475 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA22740 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:12:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA22736 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:12:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVbeZ-00038UC; Thu, 5 Dec 96 03:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: ALERT: Solaris 2.5.1 locks up on TCP connections in Pine 3.9x Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:14:54 -0800 Message-ID: References: <56uhi1$nj0$1@shade.twinsun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 26 Nov 1996, Casper H.S. Dik wrote: > Mark Crispin writes: > >2) The 0 byte read serves a purpose. On all systems except Solaris, it > > enables Pine to report a TCP/IP connection failure after doing a > > blocking select(). Otherwise, a failure to open the connection will > > not be detected until Pine tries to read data from the connection, and > > it will report the wrong message. > It still is bad programming; the proper way to do a non-blocking connect is > to retry the connect you eitehr get an already connected error or > a timeout. Please explain why an extraneous connect() is in any way "better" programming than an extraneous read(). "Not the way I do it" does not equate to "bad programming". The extraneous read() allows determination of "success" vs. "failure" by whether or not the read() fails. A successful (= no-op) read() means success. The extraneous connect() requires the programmer to analyze the returned error code to determine "success" vs. "failure" condition. That, in turn, can lead to portability problems. Is SUN willing to guarantee that all ports of UNIX and all UNIX-like systems for all time will only return a certain connect() error code (or codes) in the success case, and will never return any of those code in the failure case? Somehow, I doubt it. In any case, a different technique is used in Pine 4.00. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:35:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA28244 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:35:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA25351 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:32:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA25347 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:32:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVc1F-00038UC; Thu, 5 Dec 96 03:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john haggerty Subject: Why is pine slow? Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:18:41 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The network copy of pine (version 3.95) is slow why? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:43:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA28691 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:43:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA23040 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:37:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA23028 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:37:00 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:33/EUnetD-2.6.1.b) via EUnet id MAA23861; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 12:36:55 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id MAA24414; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 12:35:09 +0100 From: kompf@ife-le.de Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:35:09 +0100 (MET) To: Bruno Boettcher cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: viewing/mailcap problems... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: -> > -> > I'm using xv to view images. So the line in my mailcap is -> > image/*; xv %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" -> ok found that seems to be there by default... -> remain the other two questions: -> (1) what has the sender to do to set the type correctly? -> (2) How do i view those misconfigured attachments -> -> -> ciao -> bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr -> -> ============================================================== -> Bruno.Boettcher@ensps.u-strasbg.fr -> http://www-ensps.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (official & not reliable) -> http://erm6.u-strasbg.fr/~bboett/ (inofficial & reliable :) -> =============================================================== -> the total amount of intelligence on earth is constant. -> human population is growing.... -> (1) The sender should use a MUA with MIME-encoding/decoding such as Pine or Netscape. Pine maps MIME type and subtype information to the file name extension of attachments by reading the files ~/.mime.types, /etc/mime.types, and /usr/local/lib/mime.types (in this order). A line in ~/.mime.types views e.g. as: image/gif gif or: application/postscript ai eps ps (2) Save the attachment to a file and check the content by any viewer. Hope this helps Rudolf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 06:11:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA29894 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 06:11:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA24894 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 06:02:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA24889 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 06:02:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVeN5-00038UC; Thu, 5 Dec 96 06:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mgiorgin@squit.dsi.unive.it (Giorgini Manuel) Subject: Multiple attachments Date: 5 Dec 1996 13:33:12 GMT Message-ID: <586iup$c8m@moo.dsi.unive.it> I apologize if this question is mentioned in an eventual pine FAQ and I'd like to know where I can find it, if there is one. I need to mime-attach a high number of text files and the pine browser won't accept wildcards. How can I do that without going n-times through the browser and without typing those huge unix paths? I know I could .tgz everything - that is exactly how I resolved :) but I'd like to know if there is another solution. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:18:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA31716 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:18:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA29266 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:13:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA29262 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:13:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVgMM-00038UC; Thu, 5 Dec 96 08:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Duic Subject: Re: Integration of pine and PGP Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:50:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: It was realy the matter of pine ! Version 3.95 works fine ! -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3i mQCNAzKl0QgAAAEEAM8zgbT2/Vy8799+Btvh0Bu/hcKqGy0RM11CYINJam9pvnl2 2Is138ooHK1rYfmL1yp2CRYUcXL3n300BigL0Tfb0PjG77Eg+clB1Mfd54YxGuer 2pKPto++o8jKOwP243ZqY6Eqxw829j8QKiV7hyHCEg/TEJYTT47bWJZJOVFlAAUR tCFSb2JlcnQgRHVpYyA8cm9iZXJ0QHdpbWFsLndhdy5wbD6JAJUDBRAypdEJjttY lkk5UWUBAW2UBACT/db8sIMH+6KuOnVKkyRfcxB+4pF/iKI5PZIg9Hf5OQc73qes 4kp64YwVVwqRHUk1ZPVNEqY4R9dW+dXxqmzJxJvBoL12vv8vmLRGoidqhjz+glRg ipH9ONYvOv1m8UBc8cOOUiqOvM+8CCmNTrIDKr/SnZawhLOGgqde+3YwGA== =FA+W -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:59:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA09862 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA00351 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:55:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA00347 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:55:27 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA09230; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:54:55 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:54:54 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: john haggerty cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Why is pine slow? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, john haggerty wrote: > The network copy of pine (version 3.95) is slow why? Please be *much* more specific. What operations, exactly, are slow? -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 13:29:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA26547 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 13:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA05600 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 13:23:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA05596 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 13:23:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVlD3-00038BC; Thu, 5 Dec 96 13:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdoell@prairienet.org (Christian Doellner) Subject: why wont ARROWS work in PINE w/ MAC? Date: 5 Dec 1996 20:34:31 GMT Message-ID: <587bkn$p9h@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Why wont moving the cursor with arrows NOT work with my MAC (the arrows work in word-processing). While the arrows (moving the cursor) do work in PINE with my PC? Any advice? I'd like to get my Mac to work with the arrows in PINE. -- Christian Doellner cdoell@prairienet.org --------------------------------------- "This is all going to end badly. I'm going to end up old, broke, and a flasher." ----- Walker Percy to Shelby Foote November 28, 1977 -------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:06:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA04848 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA06461 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:02:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA06457 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:02:52 -0800 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp4.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp4.UU.NET [192.48.96.35]) id QQbsvg12970; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 17:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp4.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 17:03:00 -0500 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA849823192 Thu, 05 Dec 96 13:59:52 Date: Thu, 05 Dec 96 13:59:52 Message-Id: <9611058498.AA849823192@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussion group" Subject: Re: why wont ARROWS work in PINE w/ MAC? Christian Doellner wrote: Why wont moving the cursor with arrows NOT work with my MAC (the arrows work in word-processing). While the arrows (moving the cursor) do work in PINE with my PC? Any advice? I'd like to get my Mac to work with the arrows in PINE. I'm not sure about the Macintosh, but the following worked for me on an RS/6000 AIX 4.1.4: In the ./pine/makefile.a32 file, added the "-DTERMCAP_WINS" entry: STDCFLAGS= -Dconst= -DA32 -DSYSTYPE=\"A32\" -DMOUSE -DTERMCAP_WINS And in the ../pico/makefile.a32 file, added the "-DTERMCAP_WINS" entry: STDCFLAGS= -D_ALL_SOURCE -Da32 -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -DTERMCAP_WINS After doing a "./build clean" and a "./build a32" to recompile, the function keys now work great on our Wyse-50 terminals. While I don't know how you get this same thing done on a Macintosh, I hope this points you in the right direction. - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: why wont ARROWS work in PINE w/ MAC? Author: cdoell@prairienet.org (Christian Doellner) at INTERNET Date: 12/5/96 1:41 PM Why wont moving the cursor with arrows NOT work with my MAC (the arrows work in word-processing). While the arrows (moving the cursor) do work in PINE with my PC? Any advice? I'd like to get my Mac to work with the arrows in PINE. -- Christian Doellner cdoell@prairienet.org --------------------------------------- "This is all going to end badly. I'm going to end up old, broke, and a flasher." ----- Walker Percy to Shelby Foote November 28, 1977 -------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:05:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA07981 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA09942 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:01:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from abyss.ecst.csuchico.edu (abyss.ecst.csuchico.edu [132.241.1.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA09936 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:01:55 -0800 Received: from localhost (ettelber@localhost) by abyss.ecst.csuchico.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA05535 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:59:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:59:43 -0800 (PST) From: Edilberto Valadares To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: world-wide mainling-list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:37:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA09315 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA10736 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:34:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA10732 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:33:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVnII-00038BC; Thu, 5 Dec 96 15:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vincent Hancock Subject: Virus/Trojan hoax Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 17:06:36 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You both have recently posted warnings to UseNet news groups about a supposed trojan horse named "Penpal Greetings" I can find _NO_ information about this trojan after searching the Web sites of the majority of the reputable ant-virus/virus-alert companies. I am extremely suspicious that this is a variation of the "Good Times" virus hoax warning that has infiltrated UseNet over the past three years. I would encourage you read the "Good Times Virus Hoax FAQ" located on the Web at: http://users.aol.com/macfaq/goodtimes.html to arrive at your own conclusion. In essence, it is impossible to get infected by reading your e-mail. BTW, you will notice that the only information that could authenticate the sender of this warning is a mysterious "SAF-IA" agency, whose supposed phone number is amazingly missing the area code. I request that you each forward my message to the individuals from whom you received this message as a way to stop this hoax. In closing, I understand and appreciate your effort to warn other users of a potential threat. However, I would encourage you to forward any future messages of this type to your local IS department administrator. They can then take the appropriate measures to confirm or debunk the reality of the threat. I am cross-posting this message to the news groups in which you posted your copies of the warnings, and request that any personal replies be sent via e-mail. -- This message was written with 100% recycled electrons --- \|^|/ (o o) ______________ooO_(_)_Ooo_______________ | Vince Hancock: vhancock@southwind.net | +----------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:51:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA09613 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA11039 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:48:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA11035 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:48:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA21683; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 10:47:50 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 10:47:50 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer Reply-To: John de Boer To: Mike Brudenell cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Folder Collections In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello Mike A few days ago you were kind enough to advise on folder colections, to "group" folders with a common subject together. I was able to set up a collection, by adding, in Setup, Configuration the name of the collection, namely: MTB, ie: folder-collections = mail/[] MTB/[] I restarted Pine. Now, when I tried to Add a new folder in this collection, in the same way as I did when there was onlt yhe default collection, I get the following response: (This is the screen): -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Incoming Message Folders -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- INBOX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection ** Default for Saves ** (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] And this is the message: [Can't create mailbox MTB/Admin: No such file or directory] I was also unable to find the way to transfer folders in the first collection to the MTB collection. I'd certainly appreciate any advice Thank you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:05:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA09839 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA11383 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:02:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gordon.cfr.washington.edu (gordon.cfr.washington.edu [128.95.36.98]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA11379 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:01:58 -0800 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by gordon.cfr.washington.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02658 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:02:44 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:02:44 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Lane X-Sender: root@gordon.cfr.washington.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: recurrence? error writing configuration "/root/.pinerc" in V3.95 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello pine-folks, I've just finished searching the pine-info archives and have seen my problem described in the following message: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Subject: Pine 3.92 and user root : update .pinerc ? bug ? From: caron@jade.jouy.inra.fr (Christophe Caron) Date: 22 Mar 1996 13:24:04 GMT Hi, On HP/UX and Solaris 2.4 with pine 3.92 when user root uses pine , i have [Error saving configuration in file "/.pinerc": No such file or directory] when pine try to update /.pinerc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Apparently, the above problem was fixed for version 3.93, however I'm experiencing it with 3.95. I just downloaded the rpm'd source for Pine3.95 (pine-3.95-2.src.rpm) from the RedHat ftp server (I'm running Linux 2.0.18 on an i586, gcc 2.7.2) so that I could recompile with the "ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM" option. It compiled successfully, and I merely swapped the resulting pine executable with the previous one I'd been using (also 3.95 from the binary distribution rpm), and suddenly I got the above error... Please point me to the error in my ways (or, better yet, a fix)! Cheers, Dave ******************************************************************** * Dave Lane, NZFRI research scientist, UW visiting scientist * * and general troublemaker * * dlane@gordon.cfr.washington.edu * ******************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:08:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA01796 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA09377 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:04:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gordon.cfr.washington.edu (gordon.cfr.washington.edu [128.95.36.98]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA09372 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:04:55 -0800 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by gordon.cfr.washington.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02661 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:05:40 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:05:40 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Lane X-Sender: root@gordon.cfr.washington.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ADDENDUM: recurrence? error writing configuration... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I should mention that I'm running pine as root (thus the use of "/root/.pinerc" - but problem also occurs when I run it as user dlane, but with file "/home/dlane/.pinerc"). I apologise for forgetting this detail previously ******************************************************************** * Dave Lane, NZFRI research scientist, UW visiting scientist * * and general troublemaker * * dlane@gordon.cfr.washington.edu * ******************************************************************** Hello pine-folks, I've just finished searching the pine-info archives and have seen my problem described in the following message: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Subject: Pine 3.92 and user root : update .pinerc ? bug ? From: caron@jade.jouy.inra.fr (Christophe Caron) Date: 22 Mar 1996 13:24:04 GMT Hi, On HP/UX and Solaris 2.4 with pine 3.92 when user root uses pine , i have [Error saving configuration in file "/.pinerc": No such file or directory] when pine try to update /.pinerc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Apparently, the above problem was fixed for version 3.93, however I'm experiencing it with 3.95. I just downloaded the rpm'd source for Pine3.95 (pine-3.95-2.src.rpm) from the RedHat ftp server (I'm running Linux 2.0.18 on an i586, gcc 2.7.2) so that I could recompile with the "ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM" option. It compiled successfully, and I merely swapped the resulting pine executable with the previous one I'd been using (also 3.95 from the binary distribution rpm), and suddenly I got the above error... Please point me to the error in my ways (or, better yet, a fix)! Cheers, Dave ******************************************************************** * Dave Lane, NZFRI research scientist, UW visiting scientist * * and general troublemaker * * dlane@gordon.cfr.washington.edu * ******************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:17:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA11684 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA12956 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:14:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA12952 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:14:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVpkv-00038BC; Thu, 5 Dec 96 18:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Qin An Subject: [BUG]Cannot type 8bit char at Subject! Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 22:12:03 +0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hi, Is it possible to type 8bit characters at Subject field in the current version? Why not? Regards, Qin. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Qin An ÇØèñ Email: anqin@peflinux1.ie.cuhk.edu.hk WWW: http://peflinux0.ie.cuhk.edu.hk/~anqin/ ~ ~ __o ÏãžÛÖÐÎÄŽóѧѶϢ¹€³Ìѧϵ ~ ~ _-\<,_ The Department of Information Engineering ~ (_)/ (_) The Chinese University of Hong Kong --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:42:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA05615 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA15273 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:39:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA15269 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:39:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVqAQ-00038BC; Thu, 5 Dec 96 18:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Lane Subject: Pine 3.95, Linux - can't save "/root/.pinerc"?? Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 16:16:45 -0800 Message-ID: <32A765ED.3F4A203D@gordon.cfr.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello pine-folks, I've just finished searching the pine-info archives and have seen my problem described in the following message: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Subject: Pine 3.92 and user root : update .pinerc ? bug ? From: caron@jade.jouy.inra.fr (Christophe Caron) Date: 22 Mar 1996 13:24:04 GMT Hi, On HP/UX and Solaris 2.4 with pine 3.92 when user root uses pine , i have [Error saving configuration in file "/.pinerc": No such file or directory] when pine try to update /.pinerc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Apparently, the above problem was fixed for version 3.93, however I'm experiencing it with 3.95. I just downloaded the rpm'd source for Pine3.95 (pine-3.95-2.src.rpm) from the RedHat ftp server (I'm running Linux 2.0.18 on an i586, gcc 2.7.2) so that I could recompile with the "ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM" option. It compiled successfully, and I merely swapped the resulting pine executable with the previous one I'd been using (also 3.95 from the binary distribution rpm), and suddenly I got the above error... I should mention that I'm running pine as root (thus the use of "/root/.pinerc" - !!NOTE: the problem also occurs when I run pine as user dlane, but it complains about the file "/home/dlane/.pinerc"). Please point me to the error in my ways (or, better yet, a fix)! Cheers, Dave -- ******************************************************************** * Dave Lane, NZFRI research scientist, UW visiting scientist * * and general troublemaker * * dlane@gordon.cfr.washington.edu * ******************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:54:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA11499 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:54:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA15478 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:51:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from foo.icanect.net (foo.icanect.net [208.202.14.72]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA15471 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:51:36 -0800 Received: from default (19.Pool1.Ascend09.MIA.Icanect.Net [206.142.164.211]) by foo.icanect.net (8.8.4/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA21961 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 21:51:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32A788CE.73DC@icanect.net> Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 21:45:34 -0500 From: Jay Kratter Organization: Internet Communications Of America, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HTML compatibility Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is Pine HTML compatible as a Mail Reader? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 20:09:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA11664 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 20:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA14780 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 20:04:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA14776 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 20:04:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vVrS7-00038BC; Thu, 5 Dec 96 19:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Risner Subject: Re: unable to print Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:56:16 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Dec 1996, john songster wrote: > Ever since installing Smith Micro (U.S.Robotics) communications software > QuickLink, I have been unable to Print. Nothing else has changed with my > system. Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for me? > > When selecting prYnt, the message window appears to get scanned, but no > print queue appears at the bottom of the screen nothing prints. QuickLink does not do printing in response to VT print codes (which is what Pine uses to print). You should go back to using whatever software you were using before. -- David G. Risner -- Network Services Administrator Southwestern University School of Law, Los Angeles, CA Business: drisner@swlaw.edu Personal: dgrisner@pacbell.net (Preferred), dgrisner@aol.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 22:22:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA00939 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 22:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA17091 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 22:18:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gate930.buct.edu.cn (gate930.buct.edu.cn [202.4.130.115]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA17073 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 1996 22:18:02 -0800 From: chenaf@wsroom.buct.edu.cn Received: from rs2.wsroom.buct.edu.cn (rs2.wsroom.buct.edu.cn [202.4.133.42]) by gate930.buct.edu.cn (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9/edkagu-r8-master-95041109) with SMTP id OAA14459 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:22:18 +0800 Received: by rs2.wsroom.buct.edu.cn (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/3.3W9/edkagu-95040810) id AA14587; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:20:42 +0800 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:20:42 +0800 Message-Id: <9612060620.AA14587@rs2.wsroom.buct.edu.cn> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Dear sir: I am a gratuate student of BUCT (Beijing University of Chemical Techenology) and would like to study your software of Pine. If you send me some materials of its usage ,namely how to use it ,by e-mail,I would feel very much indebted to you. I am waiting for your quick reply and my e-mail address is: chenaf@wsroom.buct.edu.cn Thanks! Yours sincerely Dec.6 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 06:31:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA19506 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 06:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA25258 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 06:26:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA25254 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 06:26:06 -0800 Received: from alfred.uib.no by noralf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:19:36 +0100 Received: from localhost by alfred.uib.no with SMTP id PAA25305 (8.7.6/3.HMK for uib.no); Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:19:33 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:19:32 +0100 (MET) From: Daniela Scorza Reply-To: Daniela Scorza To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problems in receiving mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I really don't know if this is the right place where to ask information about it, but I'll try. The problem is the following: when I login a sentence appears: "you have old mail waiting"...what does it mean? And when I enter Pine there's written something about a process Number 24151 which keeps a folder closed. What shall I do to read my old mail which is still waiting? Thank you in advance Daniela From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 13:17:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA29039 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 13:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA04806 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 13:12:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.iol.co.il (mail.iol.co.il [192.116.192.30]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA04798 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 13:12:01 -0800 Received: from ELADBAR- (dial-8-10.slip.huji.ac.il [128.139.9.80]) by mail.iol.co.il (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA02286 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:12:23 +0200 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:12:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199612062212.AAA02286@mail.iol.co.il> X-Sender: abn34567@mail.iol.co.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Elad Bar-Natan Subject: PROBLEM HI ! HOW ARE YOU DOING ? I NEED SOME HELP AND I THOUGHT THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE YO HELP ME ! IF YOU GOT THE TIME AND WILL TO HELP ME ,PLEASE E-MAIL ME BACK AND I WILL TELL YOU MY PROBLEM . YOU SEEMS TO KNOW YOUR WAY IN THE INTERNET ! IF YOU CAN'T , OH WELL,WHATEVER,NEVERMIND. THANK YOU PLEASE SEND ME E-MAIL BECK !! ELAD BAR-NATAN /\ /\ . . \(^_^)/ ! --- "You want the Real Thing, and I'm a diet coke, okay?" "I FIND IT HARD, IT WAS HARD TO FIND, OH WELL,WHATEVER,NEVERMIND" KURT COBAIN, SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 13:22:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA29187 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 13:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA05024 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 13:19:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from un1.satlink.com (un1.satlink.com [200.9.212.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA05020 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 13:19:32 -0800 Received: from ba5.aluar.com.ar.aluar.com.ar (Ualuar@localhost) by un1.satlink.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with UUCP id RAA25761 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:43:09 -0300 Received: from BA3.aluar.com.ar by ba5.aluar.com.ar.aluar.com.ar (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18389; Fri, 6 Dec 96 16:46:03-030 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:45:11 -0300 (GMT-0300) From: "Edgardo S. Safranchik" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Info about VMS/Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! I've been trying to compile Pine/Pico on VAX/OpenVMS and I have a little problem. I don't know who can help me, so I write you. I build Pico without problems, but not Pine. In the distribution files I don't find the file VMSBUILD.COM for Pine. Could you help me, please? Regards ------------------------ Edgardo S. Safranchik Gcia. de Sistemas Aluar Aluminio Argentino b21393@ba3.aluar.com.ar TE: 725-8000 (ext 2262) ------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:05:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA30284 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA06253 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:01:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA06247 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:01:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vW8KE-00038UC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 14:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: NSantiam@inmail.com (Bob Wilson, Jr.) Subject: Re: Locking out bulk e-mail... Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 21:46:21 GMT Message-ID: <32a88acf.40359988@news.zzz.com> References: <57hhfh$ii@raven.eva.net> <57hj0f$fnc@clarknet.clark.net> <32A72F65.7B4C1CDA@spinne.com> On Thu, 05 Dec 1996 15:24:05 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: >> J.C. Archambeau (jca@bighorn.accessnv.com) wrote: >> : I have been receiving lots of bulk e-mail lately. Is there a way for >> : a user to some how block out receiving bulk e-mail <> Please don't say "bulk" unless you're talking about the message priority that was labeled to the internet message. Some people send Unsolicited Comerical Email, this is known as UCEs. Usually it's sent by use of a list of e-mail addresses. I suspect you are talking about UCEs that are mailed from a broadcasted mailing list. Some mail readers have filtering ability. A few domains are common problems, but few domains are nothing but businesses involved in these "junk mailings." Forinstance, geocities.com is a frequent reference in junk mail. Eariler today I communicated with someone at the Pentagon that has a e-mail address at Geocities. So filtering mail by the source domain is not really great. With a Unix-type email system you can "easily" dump any message that is sent to more than 15 people. But that will need a filter -ahead- of it that saves messages from any mail list you read. That will get rid of 3/4 or more of the junk mail. Best bet is to always respond with a complaint, and a request that they NOT use your address in the future. Their mail will slowly clog up their lifes too! Don't just hit reply, locate their contact address. If it's a local-to-you phone number, please call and tell them every week for a month that you DO NOT want to ever hear from them again. If they're local you could sue them (not for much). If anyone wants to start a class action suit against any of these Bozos I'd be happy to join if they had fouled my screen just once. Otherwise, get their provider to warn them, and don't make it profitable to send junk mail to your email address that you must pay to access. >> : >> : Whichever way it needs to be done, I am interested to know the strategy >> : necessary to get rid of this nuisance. <> > >Bulk mailers are, by their definition, automated. You underestimate humans. I've received email from single-senders at a time. I've had my nethandle discovered and replyed to...that's a single lookup. It will get worse until the law starts criminal charges on these jaspers. > When they add your >e-mail address to their database and then try to send mail to it, mail >will bounce. This also stops malicious people who use a hacker program >to subscribe you to every mailing list on the Internet. > >The downside of this is that every person replying privately to an >article you wrote must edit the address, or their mail too will bounce. >It's also a pain for Netscape people, because they can't have separate >news and e-mail origin addresses. Minor pain, as another mailreader can be added.. ALSO a pain to your IP provider, as his domain keeps getting hit with undeliverable email. The GOOD answer to these these things TODAY would be for all mail machines to hold -any- message that had two "bad addresses" messages returned. Might stop quite a bit of the junk for a little while. Established mailing lists could be configured to not have this limit. >-- >Jeff Garzik Jeff.Garzik@spinne.com >Spinne, Inc. http://www.spinne.com/ > > State-of-the-art efficient systems for the Internet. CC: jca@bighorn.accessnv.com, Jeff.Garzik@spinne.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:32:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA30377 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA06906 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:27:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from anduin.woodsoup.org (anduin.woodsoup.org [129.186.242.23]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA06897 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:27:29 -0800 Received: from localhost (vlewis@localhost) by anduin.woodsoup.org (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21575 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:31:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:31:29 -0600 (CST) From: Vasily Lewis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: garbled screen after pico exits Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greets, I've recently built pine 3.95 for NetBSD. Pine itself works fine. Pico itself works fine (afaik). The problem occurs when exiting pico *in* pine after a finished compose session. For some reason, it appears as though the "redraw" that would normally occur fails, and the new text is simply scrolled onto the screen lines at a time, with what appear to be escaped control codes. I'm hoping this is a known problem, and someone can offer some guidance. I've been unable to locate mention of this in any of the documentation or FAQs. I have tried to isolate the problem to pico by enabling another editor for message composition, but alas pico is still invoked to for the headers, so the problem still occurs. To be more precise.. it occurs after the user confirms a ^C cancel, or confirms a ^X send. The problem persists from a variety of terminal types (vt100/vt102/xterm/screen). Pico has been built w/ TERMCAP as the os_unix.h file indicates for a bsd system. Any help is appreciated. -Vasily Lewis -- |========================_======___=========_____==[vlewis@woodsoup.org]= |Its a damned poor mind | | /| / (_)__ ___/ / _ \__ _____ ___ ___ ____ |that can only think of | |/ |/ / / _ \/ _ / , _/ // / _ \/ _ \/ -_) __/ |one way to spell a word|__/|__/_/_//_/\_,_/_/|_|\_,_/_//_/_//_/\__/_/=== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:04:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA31730 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA05820 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:01:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA05816 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:01:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vW9FM-00038UC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 14:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Hiding Distribution List Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 20:30:59 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32a3eff6.17597403@news.hku.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Eric Tse wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Jackie Mak wrote: > > > How can I hide the distribution list on To: field? > > My list has over 300 addresses. > > Put the list of addresses in the BCC field, and put at least 1 address > in the TO field (necessary). Or, at least in PINE 3.95, you can put the nickname of the distribution list in the Lcc: field. You'll see the names listed, but they won't be in the To: field. I currently do this method with a distribution list with success. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { kings@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~kings/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc. } { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:39:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA32070 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA06760 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:36:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA06756 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:36:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vW9kd-00038UC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 15:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: JND Subject: How do I use PC-PINE 3.95 with multiple internet accounts? Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 04:40:58 -0800 Message-ID: <32A41F4E.3A0C@peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for information on configuring/using PINE with two different email accounts. Can this only be done by having one account's INBOX a read-only incoming folder? Ideally, I would like to be able to send to and receive email from both accounts during the same on-line PINE session. I have read, read, and re-read every document I could find on the net regarding this inquiry but have not been able to find any information that directly addresses any methods/options I have to accomplish this with PINE. I am using PC-PINE 3.95 under Windows 3.1 on an IBM based machine. Thanks for your help... Jeff (Please reply directly to darbutj@peak.org) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:40:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA32236 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:40:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA08654 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:36:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA08650 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:36:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vW9kf-00038VC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 15:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ARGH! Memory usage in Pine 3.95 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:21:40 -0800 Message-ID: References: <56sk61$ief@tear.cybercash.com> <56vpkt$78f@tear.cybercash.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1482339761-849662500=:12776" In-Reply-To: <56vpkt$78f@tear.cybercash.com> This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1482339761-849662500=:12776 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 20 Nov 1996, Brian Miller wrote: > Mark Crispin (mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU) wrote: > : On 19 Nov 1996, Brian Miller wrote: > : > I'm running Pine 3.95 on a P120 under BSDI 2.0.1 w/32M > : > memory and 200M of swap. Not often (only about three > : > times a day...grrrr) Pine will die on me with an "Out of free > : > storage" error when attempting to access a mailbox > : > that's larger than approx. 6MB in size. > [snip] > > : Suggestion: consider using an alternative format for your mail, such as > : tenex format. Read the Pine technical note for more information. We long > : ago gave up on mbox format for big mailboxes. Some of our people have > : tenex format mailboxes in the tens of megabytes. > > Thanks Mark. Will definitely look into it (and probably > use it, as long as it doesn't affect other things like > 'procmail', etc...) You need to make sure that procmail doesn't deliver to a Tenex folder. I pipe messages through tmail for delivery to my non-mbox folders. Tmail is available in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z Note that since Sendmail prepends an mbox "From " line and procmail keeps it, you need to get rid of that line. Tmail also uses "user+folder" syntax to allow direct delivery to a folder. Unfortunately procmail doesn't (AFAIK) make the delivery address available directly, but it does show up in the first Received: header. I use the attached .procmailrc rules and script to handle this. It is pretty crude, but it gets the job done for me (improvements welcome ;) Good luck! --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8520.28 --0-1482339761-849662500=:12776 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=x Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: .procmailrc extract using tmail R1RGUlRNUEZJTEU9L3RtcC9ndGZydG1wZmlsZS4kJA0KDQojIHN0cmlwIG9m ZiAiRnJvbSAiIGxpbmUgZnJvbSBiZWdpbm5pbmcgb2YgbWVzc2FnZQ0KOjBm dw0KfCBnZXQtdG8tZnJvbS1yZWNlaXZlZA0KDQpFTlZFTE9QRVRPPWBoZWFk IC0xICRHVEZSVE1QRklMRSA7IHJtICRHVEZSVE1QRklMRWANCg0KIyBJbnNl cnQgZGVsaXZlcnkgcnVsZXMgaGVyZS4NCg0KIyMgb3RoZXJ3aXNlLCBjYWxs IHRoZSBsb2NhbCBkZWxpdmVyeSBhZ2VudCB0byBoYW5kbGUgd3JpdGluZyBz eXN0ZW0NCiMjIHN0YW5kYXJkIGluYm94LiAgSE9XRVZFUiwgYmVmb3JlIHRo ZSBoYW5kLW9mZiBtYWtlIHN1cmUgdG8gYmxhdCB0aGUNCiMjIGdyYXR1aXRv dXMgYmVya2VsZXkgZGVsaW1pdGVyIHByb2NtYWlsIGluc2lzdHMgb24gYWRk aW5nLiAgc2hlZXNoLg0KOjANCnwgL3Vzci9sb2NhbC9ldGMvdG1haWwgJHtF TlZFTE9QRVRPLWRsbX0NCg== --0-1482339761-849662500=:12776 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=get-to-from-received Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: get-to-from-received script IyEvYmluL3NoDQojDQojIENvbnZlcnQgdGhlIGxlYWRpbmcgIkZyb20gIiBs aW5lIHRvIEJlemVyay1Gcm9tOg0KIyBFeHRyYWN0IHVzZXIrZm9sZGVyIGZy b20gUmVjZWl2ZWQ6IGhlYWRlciB0byB0ZW1wIGZpbGUuDQojIA0KIyBCdWc6 IGNvdWxkIGdldCB3cm9uZyBmb2xkZXIgaWYgbm8gQmV6ZXJrIGhlYWRlci4N CiMNCg0KR1RGUlRNUEZJTEU9JHtHVEZSVE1QRklMRS0vdG1wL2d0ZnJ0bXAu JCR9DQoNCnNlZCAtZSAnMXMvXkZyb20gL1NlbmRtYWlsLUZyb206IC8NCjEs MnsNCgl0DQoJaA0KCXMvXlJlY2VpdmVkOi4qIGZvciA8Ki8vDQoJdHNraXAN CgliDQo6c2tpcA0KCXMvOy4qJC8vDQoJcy9ALio+Ly8NCgl3ICckR1RGUlRN UEZJTEUnDQoJeA0KfScgMj4gL2Rldi9udWxsDQo= --0-1482339761-849662500=:12776-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:40:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA31771 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:40:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA08648 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:36:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA08644 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:36:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vW9kd-00038BC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 15:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Duic Subject: Pine & PGP Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:14:32 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII #!/bin/ksh # ---------- pgpdecode --------- # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld # # Sun Mar 24 12:01:21 MET 1996 Andreas Klemm # The tmp files in the original version were world readable for # the short time of unpacking, setting suitable umask prevents this # umask 077 trap "rm -f /tmp/pgpdecode.???.$$; exit" 0 1 2 15 (pgp -f > /tmp/pgpdecode.txt.$$) 2>&1 | tee /tmp/pgpdecode.pgp.$$ 1>&2 sed -e 's/^/| /' /tmp/pgpdecode.pgp.$$ echo " " cat /tmp/pgpdecode.txt.$$ ---------------------------- #!/bin/ksh # ---------- pgpencrypt --------- # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld pgp -feast $* ---------------------------- #!/bin/sh # ---------- pgpsign --------- # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld pgp -fast Here are 3 scripts (pine filters which I am trying to use with pine 3.95. The problem is when i try for example to mail encrypted message i press <^X> choose filter pgpencrypt and all works fine, mail is sent but !!!! but after that (100% mail sent) i cannot back to pine. The pine dont resp0onse to *any* keystroke ! E-Mail: robert@wimal.waw.pl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:14:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA32074 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA07538 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:11:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA07533 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:11:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWAKj-00038BC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 16:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: problem importing text Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:00:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <57ud6c$i81@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <57ud6c$i81@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> On 2 Dec 1996, Christian Doellner wrote: > Every time I cut and paste my word processed documents the line wrapping > is always screwed up That would not be so strange, since word processing documents usually don't have line wrapping like text files, but instead are free-flowing (the line-wrapping symbols only appear at paragraph endings). Unfortunately, the Internet mail and news format usually does not allow for free-flowing text (if you ask me, it's a "bug" in the format), you would need to manually re-format the texts before pasting them into Pine. > and the apostphroes and quoatation marks change > into U's. Are you using the ASCII quotation marks ("), or "typographical" quotation marks (code 147 and 148 in ISO 8859-1). \\// Peter - m9944@abc.se - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:19:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA30117 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:19:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA09602 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:16:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA09598 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:16:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWANo-00038BC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 16:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: madhat@c2.org (Mad Hatter) Subject: Boycot bulk mailers Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 23:08:58 GMT Message-ID: <58a92e$qe0@tofu.alt.net> Content-Type: text/plain NEW KID on the block bulk mailing the masses. WE MUST Teach these idiots a lesson. Filter out this domain ASAP and after which be sure to send all mail that looks like spam, junk and bulk to the root, abuse, security or technica contact of the domain it came from. Mail Loop Software (MAILLOOP-DOM) 1112 Weston Rd, #238 Weston, FL 33326 US Domain Name: MAILLOOP.COM Administrative Contact, Billing Contact: Hernandez, Jorge (JH4219) jorge@MAILLOOP.COM 954-748-3912 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:20:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA19330 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA09039 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:16:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA09035 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:16:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWBId-00038BC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 17:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Subject: Re: Locking out bulk e-mail... Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 09:55:51 -0800 Message-ID: References: <57hhfh$ii@raven.eva.net> <57hj0f$fnc@clarknet.clark.net> <32A72F65.7B4C1CDA@spinne.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32A72F65.7B4C1CDA@spinne.com> Hi Jeff, On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Jeff Garzik wrote: : You can also do something very simple -- put an invalid character in : your e-mail address. : : For example, my e-mail address would be : : Bulk mailers are, by their definition, automated. When they add your : e-mail address to their database and then try to send mail to it, mail : will bounce. This also stops malicious people who use a hacker program : to subscribe you to every mailing list on the Internet. : I really like this idea a lot. Does this also mean that the Reply-to: field should either be removed, should be done to it as well, or it will let someone reply, but it will still goof up the bots? : The downside of this is that every person replying privately to an : article you wrote must edit the address, or their mail too will bounce. : It's also a pain for Netscape people, because they can't have separate : news and e-mail origin addresses. : What's the point of Multi-tasking if you never run more then one program. It took Windows 10 years to get true Multi-tasking and no one will use it after a generation of nit-wits started using Nutscrape. The hell with people that can run more then one program like the rest of us :) . Oh, cough, err.... Yeah :) . L8R, Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:52:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA31008 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA09591 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:48:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from qlink.queensu.ca (Qlink.QueensU.CA [130.15.129.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA09581 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:48:01 -0800 Received: from localhost by qlink.queensu.ca (SMI-8.6/ccs9603) id UAA28721; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 20:47:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 20:47:57 -0500 (EST) From: Schwartz David J <6djs1@qlink.queensu.ca> X-Sender: 6djs1@qlink1 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attachment problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Schwartz David J wrote: > any hope for trying to open this attachment? > type:application > subtype:mac-binhex40 > encoding:7bit > parameters:name=hanukah > approx size:19kb > display method:can't, unknown attachment format > > thanks > david > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:05:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA00890 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:05:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA11662 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:01:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA11658 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:01:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWC3u-00038WC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 18:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Doug Moncur." Subject: pc pine for winsock - chnaging the imap port number Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:18:38 -0000 Message-ID: <01bbe207.303a5bc0$12e22090@tacitus.york.ac.uk> this is one of these things that ought to be dead obvious - anyone know of a simple way to change the port number pc pine uses to connect to the imap server from the default of 143 ? -Doug -- Doug Moncur, Head of Personal Systems, Computing Service, University of York, York YO1 5DD phone: +44-1904-433815, fax: +44-1904-433740, WWW: http://www.york.ac.uk/~dgm1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:05:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA01481 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:05:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA09812 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:01:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA09806 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:01:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWC3x-00038XC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 18:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rute Mesquita Subject: Source Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:28:49 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Where can i find the source of pine?? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:05:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA24405 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:05:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA11656 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:01:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA11649 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:01:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWC3m-00038BC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 18:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs Date: 4 Dec 1996 12:54:03 -0500 Message-ID: <584drr$k8m@saltmine.radix.net> You can convert your mail address lists between Elm Pine Eudora Netscape Pegasus all conversions are supported. Go to http://www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm NEW Database/Spreadsheet/Tabbed-ASCII to all of above!!!. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Technical Web Service, Perl/CGI, E-mail address conversion service 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:07:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA01756 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA09804 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:01:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA09800 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:01:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWC3p-00038VC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 18:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ebromber@forest.drew.edu Subject: Automatic Reply Message-ID: <1996Dec4.120630.152337@forest> Date: 4 Dec 96 12:06:30 EST I am going away for two weeks and was wondering if there was any way to have an automatic reply sent out to whoever sends me mail. I use pine 3.91 Thanks ebromber@drew.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:39:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA02184 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA12102 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:36:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA12092 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:36:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWCbK-00038BC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 18:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edwin Roedder Subject: Saving Messages... How? Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:11:10 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am new to using Pine and I am having trouble downloading my messages. I am particularly interested in downloading the attachments. I can't figure out how to do that. How is it done? Any help appreciated! Ed. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 20:59:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA01419 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 20:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA13704 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 20:57:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA13700 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 20:56:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWEl0-00038VC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 20:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Forwarding Mail Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:39:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1996Dec4.173012.152396@forest> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1996Dec4.173012.152396@forest> On 4 Dec 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: > At school I use Pine. But winter break is coming up and I won't be able to > get to my mail. However, I have an AOL account and was wondering if there > was any way to forward all of my Pine mail to my AOL account. This is not really a Pine question, because Pine does not do mail forwarding. There may be ways to do what you want, but exactly how will depend on what operating system you are using Pine on. If you are on a Un*x-like system, just put a one-line file named .forward in your home directory containing the email address you want mail forwarded to. (Remember to remove it when you get back!) For other systems you might need to check other newsgroups. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 20:59:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA19248 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 20:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA11845 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 20:56:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA11841 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 20:56:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWEka-00038BC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 20:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Albert S Chi Subject: Unsubscribing from Newsgroups? Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 19:41:10 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Using Pine 3.93 running under ULTRIX V4.4 (Rev. 69), I can't seem to properly unsubscribe from newsgroups. When I use the D command in the Folder Index, I'm prompted to confirm the removal, and all appears well. But when I restart Pine, the unsubscribed newsgroups reappear. In my .newsrc, the unsubscribed newsgroups were !'d. The only way I could get Pine to ignore the groups was to delete them from the .newsrc. Is this normal? Thanks in advance. ***************************************************************************** Albert Chi Cal Hoops '96-97: Countdown to Probation chi@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu GOOD NIGHT NOW! ***************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:24:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA31976 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA12180 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:22:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA12175 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:21:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWFBh-00038BC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 21:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurry@imap2.asu.edu Subject: Re: suggestion for PC Pine 4 Date: 7 Dec 1996 03:25:12 GMT Message-ID: <58ao2o$jrm@news.asu.edu> References: <589gdl$kp2@amenti.rutgers.edu> On 6 Dec 1996 11:08:21 -0500, Ricardo Stella (stella@rci.rutgers.edu) wrote: > Currently, if the username is not set on the pinerc file, it would prompt > for it and modify the pinerc file with it making it the default. > Could there be a way to leave the default username blank, then use the > username and default imap server for the reply address ? > This would be very helpfull in a lab environment, where users vary from > session to session. Since they still need to log into the IMAP server, > there wouldn't be any problem with security. Actually, just manually edit the pinerc so it has a set of empty quotes "" where the user-name should be. This is discussed in the pine tech notes. -- Adam Myrow From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:05:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA02612 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:05:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA12692 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:02:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA12688 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:02:21 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA09051; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 11:34:55 +0530 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 11:34:55 +0530 (IST) From: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND To: Edwin Roedder cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Saving Messages... How? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, download mails to your home directory by pressing "E". view attachments by using "V" and download them by using "S" hope that works fine, bye, ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Edwin Roedder wrote: > I am new to using Pine and I am having trouble downloading my messages. I > am particularly interested in downloading the attachments. I can't figure > out how to do that. How is it done? > > Any help appreciated! > > Ed. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:39:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA02273 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:39:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA14810 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:37:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA14806 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:37:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWGJc-00038BC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 22:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: greg@newbury.edu (Greg) Subject: Re: Reading news in Pine Date: 4 Dec 96 13:50:03 GMT Message-ID: References: In article , Krispie wrote: >Hi, > > I've recently (with a bit of help) managed to configure pine to >let me read the news groups, however when I have read a message it marks >it as read but next time I access the newsgroup it is marked as unread. > > If anyone could throw some light on this I'd be most appreciative. Although the "New" flag disappears when you read news articles, you have to "delete" the messages for them not to show up next time. The name *sounds* dangerous, but "deleting" an article doesn't do anything evil like cancel articles -- it just changes the high mark in your .newsrc From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 23:24:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA23270 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 23:24:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA13590 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 23:22:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA13580 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 1996 23:22:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWH1a-00038BC; Fri, 6 Dec 96 23:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Qin An Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=5BBUG=5D=3D=3FISO-8859-1=3FB=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F?= Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 22:58:06 +0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hi, When I set the character-set as ISO-8859-1, and post articles to newsgroup with 8bit characters in Subject field, why PINE insert the string =?ISO-8859-1? in the Subject field, and turn off the high bit of each character? Is it possible to disable it? Other news readers do not support this kind of stuff. Thank you in advance. Qin. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Qin An ÇØèñ Email: anqin@peflinux1.ie.cuhk.edu.hk WWW: http://peflinux0.ie.cuhk.edu.hk/~anqin/ ~ ~ __o ÏãžÛÖÐÎÄŽóѧѶϢ¹€³Ìѧϵ ~ ~ _-\<,_ The Department of Information Engineering ~ (_)/ (_) The Chinese University of Hong Kong --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:13:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA02643 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:13:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA14130 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:11:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA14126 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:11:35 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id NAA19476; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:42:57 +0530 (IST) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:42:54 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: Newsgroups Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello eveyone, I am having great difficulty in access newsgroups. Does anyone know of a news server which I can use? The ISP does not provide me with newsgroups access. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much, Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:22:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA04881 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:22:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA15978 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:20:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA15971 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:19:57 -0800 Received: (from drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id NAA18046; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:51:14 +0530 (IST) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:51:09 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: Pine Header Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello everyone, I basically save all the messages I want to a folder. Than I donwload the folder filer from the ISP hard disk to mine. I am using MS-DOS system. How can read the email, which are on my hard disk? Also I was wondering whether all the information which one sees when view the message with a rich header, is also available through the files? Thank you, Regards, Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:32:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA04039 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA14315 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:30:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lin2.tpu.ee (lin2.tpu.ee [193.40.239.27]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA14292 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:28:35 -0800 Received: from localhost (zina@localhost) by lin2.tpu.ee (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA13738 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 10:27:44 +0200 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 10:27:43 +0200 (EET) From: Zinaida Burlakova To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have files in letters, how can I read them? I have only pine and telnet.(our computers) and I don't understand how I can use files there. Please,answer. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:49:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA04718 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:49:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA16245 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:44:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA16235 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:44:47 -0800 From: tina@freenet.bishkek.su Received: (from tina@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id NAA19857; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:47:58 +0600 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:47:58 +0600 Message-Id: <199612070747.NAA19857@freenet.bishkek.su> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-URL: mailto:pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 X-Personal_name: tina Subject: heeeeeeeeeelp! pipe doesn't work merry meet all! please, help me... i have probs with piping to unix cmd i have pine.config.fixed where piping is allowed and i have (very) restricted shell wich allows me to run only pine, ls, w, more, du. i've thought that at least to these commands i can pipe please, give me advice, where can i find more info about pine-unix integration (technical details) and about pine error messages thanx love to all From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:10:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA06683 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA19350 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:07:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA19346 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:07:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWMRk-00038BC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 05:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: Hiding Distribution List Date: 3 Dec 1996 21:34:51 GMT Message-ID: References: <32a3eff6.17597403@news.hku.hk> On Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:58:37 GMT, Eric Tse wrote: [<-->] On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Jackie Mak wrote: [<-->] [<-->] > How can I hide the distribution list on To: field? [<-->] > My list has over 300 addresses. [<-->] [<-->] Put the list of addresses in the BCC field, and put at least 1 address [<-->] in the TO field (necessary). ^^^^^^^^^^ A 'To:' address is not necessary. If the 'To:' field is blank, Pine puts the string empty-header-message = "To? To you, of course! :)" (( default-value is 'Undisclosed recipients'. I have modified it above to what I wanted)) --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:20:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA06179 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA17616 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:18:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA17612 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:17:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWMZQ-00038BC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 05:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Martin Ligr Subject: enable-mouse-in-xterm Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:33:08 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello: Is the feature 'enable-mouse-in-xterm' functional in pine 3.92? On my SGI Irix 5.3 the cursor sits motionless in the corner of the xterm. (If I understood the help text well, I should be able to use the mouse to select commands.) I will be grateful for any hints on how to make this feature work. Martin --- Martin Ligr Institut fuer Biochemie Universitaet Stuttgart Pfaffenwaldring 55 D-70569 Stuttgart Germany phone: +49-(0711)-685-4383 fax: +49-(0711)-685-4392 home: +49-(07151)-905-901 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:45:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA00432 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA19717 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:43:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA19713 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:43:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWN1O-00038BC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 05:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stella@rci.rutgers.edu (Ricardo Stella) Subject: Re: [Help?] pine lock not on FAQ Date: 6 Dec 1996 10:40:43 -0500 Message-ID: <589epr$jfh@amenti.rutgers.edu> References: <3297A5BE.41C6@jhu.edu> <57e0dg$6kl@news.liberty.com> batchman@shell.liberty.com (Shoeless in San Jose ) writes: >I get this when I shell out of Pine and start a new copy. The new copy will >only run in 'Read-Only' mode. Try quitting out of Pine and typing fg at the >prompt. If that doesn't work, log out and try again. >Greg >batchman@liberty.com Not sure if it might be system specific, but using Pine under Solaris 2.4 or 2.5, if a new instance of Pine is run by the same user, it will try to claim the lock, and the other instance would become read-only. DISCLAIMER: These are only my own opinions and views... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- stella@pluto.njcc.com Ricardo Stella http://pluto.njcc.com/~stella Up the Irons... _suAve_ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:55:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA04361 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:55:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA17972 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:53:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA17968 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 05:53:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWNBG-00038VC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 05:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: marking headers read in Usenet Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 09:33:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <584nd3$r8f@andromeda.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <584nd3$r8f@andromeda.rutgers.edu> On 4 Dec 1996, Housen Maratouk wrote: > I recently began using pine as a newsreader. In the past, I have always > used 'nn' and when I wanted to mark all headers in a group read, I would just > hold -X. Is there any equivalent to that command in pine or are we > expected to individually 'delete' each header? From the Main Menu, go into your personal configuration and make sure you have aggregate commands enabled. Then, when viewing the index listing for a newsgroup, just enter the sequence ;aad This will mark all messages as read. If you want the messages to disappear from the display ("expunged"), add an x at the end of that sequence. (Depending on your hookup, you may have to enter the four or five characters one at a time.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 07:04:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA07295 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 07:04:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA20472 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 07:02:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metronet.lib.mi.us (metronet.lib.mi.us [199.179.30.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA20468 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 07:01:59 -0800 Received: from localhost by metronet.lib.mi.us (8.6.12/2.2) with SMTP id JAA08627; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:48:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:48:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Motlagh, Cyrus K. - Personal Acct." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to get to Pine using Microsoft Exchange? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have tried our local service but they could not help me. My local service has a menu prior to connectiing to pone. When I use the Microsoft Exchange, the menu and everything prior to the Pine menu display and then I get unreadab;e characters representing the Pine main menu. Any ideas what I should do? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:08:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA04800 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA21217 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:06:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA21213 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:06:30 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA25602; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:06:24 -0800 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:06:23 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "Doug Moncur." cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pc pine for winsock - chnaging the imap port number In-Reply-To: <01bbe207.303a5bc0$12e22090@tacitus.york.ac.uk> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII {imap.host.name:XXX}inbox <-- where XXX is the desired port # -teg On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Doug Moncur. wrote: > > this is one of these things that ought to be dead obvious - anyone know of > a simple way to change the port number pc pine uses to connect to the imap > server from the default of 143 ? > > -Doug > > -- > Doug Moncur, Head of Personal Systems, > Computing Service, University of York, York YO1 5DD > phone: +44-1904-433815, fax: +44-1904-433740, > WWW: http://www.york.ac.uk/~dgm1/ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:10:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA07189 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA21239 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:08:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA21235 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:08:13 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA14358; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:08:11 -0800 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:08:10 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Albert S Chi cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unsubscribing from Newsgroups? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I seem to recall some bugs in 3.93 that might be related to this... Please see if it happens in 3.95. -teg On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Albert S Chi wrote: > Using Pine 3.93 running under ULTRIX V4.4 (Rev. 69), I can't seem to > properly unsubscribe from newsgroups. When I use the D command in the > Folder Index, I'm prompted to confirm the removal, and all appears well. > But when I restart Pine, the unsubscribed newsgroups reappear. > > In my .newsrc, the unsubscribed newsgroups were !'d. The only way I could get > Pine to ignore the groups was to delete them from the .newsrc. Is this > normal? Thanks in advance. > > ***************************************************************************** > Albert Chi Cal Hoops '96-97: Countdown to Probation > chi@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu GOOD NIGHT NOW! > ***************************************************************************** > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:07:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA05223 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA24755 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:03:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA24751 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:03:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWTq5-00038BC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 12:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Hard sorting folders Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:31:47 +0000 Message-ID: References: <57qf2r$7a1@due.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: yes. This used to work up to and including 3.91; was broken 3.92-3.94, and was fixed for 3.95 following strong representations from me!=20 On 3 Dec 1996, Terry Gray wrote: :>=CFrjan, :>I have some new info on this:=20 :> :>In fact, sorting/saving works fine via IMAP provided that a) you are usin= g :>a recent version of Pine and b) you haven't turned on the hidden feature :>"save-aggregates-imap-copy" --which optimizes performance but doesn't :>guarantee the order of the saved messages. :> :>-teg :> :>On 30 Nov 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: :> :>> [Posted and mailed] :>>=20 :>> In article , :>> Terry Gray wrote: :>> >=CFrjan, :>> >Aggregate operations, including save, certainly do work via IMAP. :>> >If you have any info on what's behind the rumor to the contrary, :>> >please let me know... :>>=20 :>> The rumor I heard (actually, it was a posting here in this group, you :>> might try DejaNews) is that while aggregate save works over IMAP, it :>> uses an IMAP command for this, which naturally does not know about pine= 's :>> internal ordering. So you cannot use it to physically reorder a folder= , :>> as the original poster of this thread requested. :>>=20 :>> Greetings, :>> =CFrjan. :>>=20 :> :> :> :> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:33:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA29108 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:33:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA23230 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:28:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA23226 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:28:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWUEP-00038BC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 13:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shohreh Bozorgmehri Subject: Approval Header for Moderated newsgroups Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 12:27:12 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII So, here I found the answer .... "How do I define my own headers like Approved:? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Config. Move down to the customized-hdrs option and read the context-sensitive help screen. " Source: http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/faq/FAQs.html -Shohreh -------- Answer to my question below: Hi, I have recently joined the list and would like to ask ... How the approval header can be added to a mail message (for a moderated newsgroup using PINE). I appreciate any help anyone can provide. Shohreh (shohreh@uci.edu) -------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:34:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA09880 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:34:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA25058 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:29:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA25054 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:28:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWUER-00038TC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 13:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Approval Header for Moderated Newsgroup Date: 3 Dec 1996 18:55:54 GMT Message-ID: <581t3q$qg3@due.unit.no> References: In article , Shohreh Bozorgmehri wrote: > >How the approval header can be added to a mail message (for a moderated >newsgroup using PINE). I appreciate any help anyone can provide. That is one question where my attitude is: If you can't find it out by yourself, you don't need to know. If you want to find out by yourself, I suggest you check in the Setup/Config menu, press ? at any option to get help about it. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:36:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA32744 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA23301 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:34:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA23297 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:33:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWUL0-00038BC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 13:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Garzik Subject: Re: Locking out bulk e-mail... Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 15:24:05 -0500 Message-ID: <32A72F65.7B4C1CDA@spinne.com> References: <57hhfh$ii@raven.eva.net> <57hj0f$fnc@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > J.C. Archambeau (jca@bighorn.accessnv.com) wrote: > : I have been receiving lots of bulk e-mail lately. Is there a way for > : a user to some how block out receiving bulk e-mail or is that something > : my ISP has to do for me? I will probably be having my ISP changing my > : service so I will be a Unix site dialing into his system via FreeBSD > : rather than having a shell account on their system. > : > : Whichever way it needs to be done, I am interested to know the strategy > : necessary to get rid of this nuisance. You can also do something very simple -- put an invalid character in your e-mail address. For example, my e-mail address would be Bulk mailers are, by their definition, automated. When they add your e-mail address to their database and then try to send mail to it, mail will bounce. This also stops malicious people who use a hacker program to subscribe you to every mailing list on the Internet. The downside of this is that every person replying privately to an article you wrote must edit the address, or their mail too will bounce. It's also a pain for Netscape people, because they can't have separate news and e-mail origin addresses. -- Jeff Garzik Jeff.Garzik@spinne.com Spinne, Inc. http://www.spinne.com/ State-of-the-art efficient systems for the Internet. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:11:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA09355 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:11:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA25555 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:09:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA25547 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:08:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWUsb-00038BC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 14:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Stuart Robertson" Subject: Problems retrieving mail (named's fault?) Date: 7 Dec 1996 21:59:59 GMT Message-ID: <01bbe3a8$85626690$0100007f@srobertson> Hi, I have an interesting problem with mail... For about 2 weeks now we have been using smail for our office email system. We have Win95 clients (using pop3) and pop3d on the Linux server. Everything was working fine. Then, today I set up a nameserver... :-( The problem is that now our mail clients are unable to connect to the server to retrieve mail. The mail clients start up ok. But when I press the Send/Receive button in either MS Internet Mail (or MS Exchange), a message pops up saying "The connection was unexpectedly terminated by your mail server....." Some points: - The name server is working correctly. That is, Win95 clients that are configured to use my name server are able to correctly resolve hostnames to IP-addresses. - The problem occurs on all machines, regardless of whether or not they are configured to use the name server (we were using local hosts files on all of the machines...). - If I kill named on the server, the problem goes away immediately. - We are using diald and the ip-masquerading features of Linux to allow the Win95 clients to access the web as though we had a leased line. That works perfectly. I tested this with some clients directly contacting our ISP's name servers, and with other clients contacting my name server (in which case my name server contacts our ISP's name servers on their behalf). As I say, this all works correctly. - I suspect that the problem has to do with the pop3 mail retrieval and not with SMTP mail delivery (i.e. smail itself) because if I watch the sockets opened on the linux machine, I only see POP3 connections being established by the Win95 clients.... - The problem is the same whether or not I include an MX record in named.hosts. I shouldn't think this would make much difference, anyways, because the clients are able to directly contact the mail server... besides, the MX records don't have anything to do with POP3, do they? - The problem is the same whether or not I hardcode the POP server IP-address or use a hostname (which is then resolved by DNS). Is there something really simple that I've done wrong (i.e., am I just being plain stupid), or is there something more subtle going on here? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Regards, Stuart Robertson. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:11:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA09622 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA23787 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:09:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Walden.MO.NET (walden.mo.net [199.250.196.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA23783 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:09:17 -0800 Received: from 205.139.241.17 (MARITZ.MARITZ.COM [205.139.241.17]) by Walden.MO.NET (8.8.3/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA07515 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:15:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <32A99731.11E@mo.net> Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 16:11:30 +0000 From: "Darren P. Chapman" Reply-To: dpc68@mo.net Organization: SJI, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine and HP-UX 9.04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Please help if you can? I need to run PINE on an HP9000 w/ HP-UX 9.04 running many Wyse terminals. I think 50's and 150's, possibly 60's? The binary seems to work fine, but the cursor up and down keys do not work as expected. Any ideas? Thanks! Darren Chapman Manager, Network Administration SJI, Inc. / SJI Fulfillment, Inc. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 17:01:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA11236 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 17:01:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA27466 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:59:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA27462 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:59:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWXZ7-00038BC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 16:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: Hiding Distribution List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <32a3eff6.17597403@news.hku.hk> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:58:37 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <32a3eff6.17597403@news.hku.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Jackie Mak wrote: > How can I hide the distribution list on To: field? > My list has over 300 addresses. Put the list of addresses in the BCC field, and put at least 1 address in the TO field (necessary). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 17:01:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA06088 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 17:01:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA25777 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:59:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA25773 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:59:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWXZA-00038TC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 16:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bobj@uic.edu (Bob Jackiewicz) Subject: Pine 3.95 locking up Date: 3 Dec 1996 20:54:14 GMT Message-ID: <58241m$7hnu@piglet.cc.uic.edu> I recently installed pine 3.95 for our users and we are having a big problem. About 25% of the time, when you hit Compose or Reply, pine will seemingly lock up. Sometimes, you can do ^L to refresh the screen. Sometimes, you have to do ^Z and then fg to get the screen to refresh. And on rare occasions, you have to kill pine. This is happening on our AIX machine running 4.1.4 compiled with cc. If there's a patch for this, I'd appreciate a tip. Thanks! -- Bob Jackiewicz UIC Academic Computer Center bobj@uic.edu University of Illinois at Chicago Network Services From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:07:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA02254 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:07:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA29198 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:04:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA29191 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:04:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWZTD-00038BC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 18:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: adding reply-to field Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 21:29:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <587ofm$l1r@badger.wmin.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <587ofm$l1r@badger.wmin.ac.uk> On 6 Dec 1996, David Waters wrote: > Does anyone know if it is possible to add a reply-to: field > in outgoing mail. > > I should note that this answer should not include editing > the source and recompiling!! Simply put in in your personal configuration. There is plenty of online help if you don't know how to do that. (This is an old, old question.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:27:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA11919 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA27754 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:19:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA27750 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:19:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWZlt-00038BC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 19:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ebromber@forest.drew.edu Subject: Forwarding Mail Message-ID: <1996Dec4.173012.152396@forest> Date: 4 Dec 96 17:30:12 EST At school I use Pine. But winter break is coming up and I won't be able to get to my mail. However, I have an AOL account and was wondering if there was any way to forward all of my Pine mail to my AOL account. Thanks in advance ebromber@drew.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:22:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA13116 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA00181 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:19:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA00177 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:19:55 -0800 Received: from fraser (fraser-ep7.sfu.ca [192.168.0.101]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.6/SFU-2.7H) id UAA02801 for (from eharper@sfu.ca); Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:19:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by fraser with SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/SFU-2.6C) id UAA02316 for (from eharper@sfu.ca); Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:19:54 -0800 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:19:54 -0800 (PST) From: Erin Anne Harper X-Sender: eharper@fraser To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: stored files Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am asking for help to find my stored files. After deleting the selected files I mistakenly said YES to the question "Do you want to store your messages?" I need these messages but can't find where they are stored. Please help me, I am distressed. thanks, erin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 21:01:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA13446 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 21:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA00606 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:59:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA00599 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:59:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWbJz-00038BC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 20:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Subject: Re: Justify During Reply (was Pine vs NX) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:38:29 -0800 Message-ID: References: <584rn1$9uv@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <584rn1$9uv@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Hi Ramanuj, On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Ramanuj Basu wrote: : Pine seems to be "smart" about re-wrapping lines paying attention to the : quote character only when REPLYing to a message. When you resume a : reply, you're in COMPOSE mode, not REPLY mode. That's my theory, anyway. : So would this seem to be a bug? An oversight? Worthy of a Bug report? Seeing how the composer should be able to justify in either COMPOSE or REPLY mode. This seems to happen to quite a few people, since I have received mostly replies via E-Mail and not follow-ups to this NewsGroup. Thanks for your reply, Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:57:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA12423 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA00481 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:55:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA00477 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:55:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWd4F-00038UC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 22:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: Automatic Reply Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1996Dec4.120630.152337@forest> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:13:37 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <1996Dec4.120630.152337@forest> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 4 Dec 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: > I am going away for two weeks and was wondering if there was any way to > have an automatic reply sent out to whoever sends me mail. I use pine 3.91 Use the "vacation" program, if it is installed on your system. Type "man vacation" for some system-dependent information. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:02:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA28476 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:02:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA02217 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:00:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA02213 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:00:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWd9Z-00038TC; Sat, 7 Dec 96 22:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: batchman@shell.liberty.com (Shoeless in San Jose ) Subject: Re: "Penpal Msg" Virus Alert Date: 8 Dec 1996 03:40:50 GMT Message-ID: <58ddc2$ca7@news.liberty.com> References: Linda Emerson (lindae@mlode.com) wrote: : FYI... a communication received today from a friend at GSI: : ... : ... : :: : Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra : lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California : ---------- Forwarded message ---------- : From: Metzer, Rick : To: Applegate, John; Felker, Barbara : Subject: FW: Virus Alert -- VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!! : Date: Monday, December 02, 1996 10:59AM : Barb & John, : I don't know if you have already been alerted to this one. Better safe : than sorry I guess. : Regards, : Rick : ---------- : >Subject: Virus Alert : >Importance: High : >If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL GREETINGS! please delete it : WITHOUT reading it. Below is a little explanation of the message, and what : it would do to your PC if you were to read the message. If you have any : questions or concerns please contact techhelp. : >This is a warning for all internet users - there is a dangerous virus : propogating across the internet through an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL : GREETINGS!". DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GREETINGS!" : >This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are : interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is too : late. The "trojan horse" virus will have already infected the boot sector : of your hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a : self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will AUTOMATICALLY : forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is present in YOUR mailbox! : >This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds the potential to DESTROY : the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your inbox, and who's mail is in : their inbox, and so on. If this virus remains unchecked, it has the : potntial to do a great deal of DAMAGE to computer networks worldwide!!!! : >Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" as soon as you see : it! And pass this message along to all of your friends and relatives, and : the other readers of the newsgroups and mailing lists which you are on, so : that they are not hurt by this dangerous virus!!!! Geez, the non-existent 'Good Times' virus seems to have mutated into another non-existent virus. Does anyone else recognize these 'warnings?' ;) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:32:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA11906 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:32:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA02568 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:30:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA02564 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:30:35 -0800 Received: from nerc.com ([205.247.120.204]) by nerc3.nerc.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA13304; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 02:29:43 -0500 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by nerc.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA00807; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 02:30:28 -0500 (GMT-0500) Message-Id: <199612080730.CAA00807@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-URL: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Sun, 8 Dec 96 02:30:22 -0500 To: ebromber@forest.drew.edu Subject: Re: Automatic Reply cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu References: <1996Dec4.120630.152337@forest> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Eric Tse Original Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:13:37 GMT Message-ID: > On 4 Dec 1996 ebromber@forest.drew.edu wrote: > > > I am going away for two weeks and was wondering if there was any > > way to have an automatic reply sent out to whoever sends me mail. > > I use pine 3.91 > > Use the "vacation" program, if it is installed on your system. > Type "man vacation" for some system-dependent information. Yes, just make sure that you are not subscribed to any list servs when you use vacation, otherwise the whole group may get email whenever you send a message -- or the person who sent it to the list. -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:33:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA29329 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:33:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA00903 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:32:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA00899 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:31:58 -0800 Received: from nerc.com ([205.247.120.204]) by nerc3.nerc.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA13310; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 02:31:07 -0500 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by nerc.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA00810; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 02:31:54 -0500 (GMT-0500) Message-Id: <199612080731.CAA00810@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-URL: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: <1996Dec4.173012.152396@forest> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b5) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Sun, 8 Dec 96 02:31:50 -0500 To: ebromber@forest.drew.edu Subject: Re: Forwarding Mail cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu References: <1996Dec4.173012.152396@forest> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: ebromber@forest.drew.edu Original Date: 4 Dec 96 17:30:12 EST Message-ID: <1996Dec4.173012.152396@forest> > At school I use Pine. But winter break is coming up and I won't be > able to get to my mail. However, I have an AOL account and was > wondering if there was any way to forward all of my Pine mail to my > AOL account. Sure, use "pico" to create a file called ".forward" in your home directory. Put the email address in the .forward file. Ie if your AOL account is "eman@aol.com" then put "eman@aol.com" in the .forward (no " marks, of course) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:42:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA13806 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA02687 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:40:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server07.icaen.uiowa.edu (server07.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.47]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA02683 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:40:16 -0800 From: anantha@icaen.uiowa.edu Received: from server01.icaen.uiowa.edu (root@server01.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.41]) by server07.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id BAA21111 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 01:40:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from l-ecn034.icaen.uiowa.edu (anantha@l-ecn034.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.154]) by server01.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id BAA28314 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 01:40:14 -0600 (CST) Received: by l-ecn034.icaen.uiowa.edu (1.37.109.16/client-1.3) id AA123660812; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 01:40:12 -0600 Message-Id: <199612080740.AA123660812@l-ecn034.icaen.uiowa.edu> Subject: Hi To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 01:40:12 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Can someone tell me how to setup an auto reply? I'm using elm and have the following .vacation.msg and .forward files. .vacation.msg : You're mail regarding ... .forward : \anantha, |/usr/bin/vacation anantha It still doesn't seem to work. Does it work only with pine??? Thanks in advance. Anantha ________________________________________________________________________________ Thou(->God) ought to be grad student. Only then will He know how much it sucks. Ananthakrishnan Ramamurti 932 E.Washington st. #2 Iowa City Iowa 52240 anantha@icaen.uiowa.edu 319 358 7031 http://www.icaen.uiowa.edu/~anantha ________________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:33:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA15165 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA03328 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:31:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from boris.ucdavis.edu (boris.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.151]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA03324 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:31:27 -0800 Received: from localhost by boris.ucdavis.edu (8.8.3/UCD3.7.3) id AAA27995; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:31:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:31:25 -0800 (PST) From: Patricia You X-Sender: ez065435@boris.ucdavis.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When we start up pine, the program opens the inbox as read only. There are 235 messages in the inbox, and we want to delete them, but can't! Help me!!!! What should we do? Thanks! Patti please also copy the message to ppjriyasetapong@ucdavis.edu since my account may not receive it...thanx! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:53:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA06159 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA03569 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:51:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA03565 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:51:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWesU-00038UC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 00:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Drown Subject: New Mail notification via POP Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 18:40:13 -0500 Message-ID: <32A75D5C.41C67EA6@cs.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently switched to getting my mail via pop instead of via local disk. Unfortunately it doesn't check for new mail on the pop server on a regular basis like it used to. Is this possible? I've tried it with my INBOX and as well as another folder. As my INBOX I need to quit pine to get it to check my mail again. As a standard folder it works better, but I need to switch to another folder and back to the pop one to get it to check for new pop mail. This is with Pine 3.95. -- -Matt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:54:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA01174 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA01889 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:51:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA01885 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:51:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWesU-00038TC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 00:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: streiner@ma.iup.edu (Justin M. Streiner) Subject: Re: User name lookup in PC-Pine Message-ID: Date: 5 Dec 96 14:44:09 EST References: >Is there any way to replicate the Unix Pine composer's username lookup for PC >users (other than copying our passwd file)? That might depend on how those PC users are connected to your network. If they have access to some type of shared network drive (NFS, whatever) you could possibly point the PC clients to a global address book which resides there. That's the only semi-efficient way I know of to do what you want, unless your PCs are also NIS clients or something similar to get at your password file to match the GECOS field when doing the lookup. jms From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:54:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA14996 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA01895 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:51:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA01891 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:51:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWesV-00038VC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 00:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Qin An Subject: [BUG]Pipe header to filter? Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 22:14:11 +0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hi, Is it possible to pipe the header of news and mail to filters? Why not? Regards, Qin An. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Qin An ÇØèñ Email: anqin@peflinux1.ie.cuhk.edu.hk WWW: http://peflinux0.ie.cuhk.edu.hk/~anqin/ ~ ~ __o ÏãžÛÖÐÎÄŽóѧѶϢ¹€³Ìѧϵ ~ ~ _-\<,_ The Department of Information Engineering ~ (_)/ (_) The Chinese University of Hong Kong --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 09:07:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA18563 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 09:06:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA08970 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 09:03:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sundance.usd.edu (sundance.usd.edu [192.55.228.42]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA08952 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 09:03:20 -0800 Received: from localhost (cellefso@localhost) by sundance.usd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA22271 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 11:00:41 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: sundance.usd.edu: cellefso owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 11:00:41 -0600 (CST) From: Cindy Ellefson X-Sender: cellefso@sundance To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For the past few days the mail I SEND ends up showing in my NEW MAIL RECIEVED folder. I use the send command as usual. What's up with this?? cellefso@sundance.usd.edu Cindy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 09:08:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA18327 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 09:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA09016 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 09:06:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA09012 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 09:06:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWmdJ-00038BC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 09:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mlake@melake.erols.com (Marshall Lake) Subject: Attaching a File on the Command Line Date: 5 Dec 1996 03:35:22 GMT Message-ID: Is it possible to attach a file and send it via the command line with Pine? I want to automate sending a file that can't be handled if included in the text body of an email. -- Marshall Lake - TEAM Software - mlake@melake.erols.com http://melake.erols.com/~the-beach http://melake.erols.com/~genealogy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:00:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA20886 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA10506 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 13:56:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA10502 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 13:56:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWrCS-00038BC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 13:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAPd locks - why reside in /var/spool/mail? Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:40:45 -0800 Message-ID: References: <57suro$e7b@rosa.asogy.stockholm.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <57suro$e7b@rosa.asogy.stockholm.se> On 1 Dec 1996, Dawnshadow wrote: > Is there a way to make imapd 4.1 (except changing big sources) write it's > lockfiles somewhere else rather than in the mail spool dir? I don't feel > comfortable with having /var/spool/mail as mode 1777 .. /tmp is enough! :) Don't forget that one of the "big sources" that you have to change is sendmail and whatever program (/bin/mail, mail.local, etc.) that you call from sendmail to deliver the mail. imapd doesn't lock that way because the author of imapd thinks it's a good idea. The author of imapd thinks it's a terrible idea. But if he expects mail delivery to leave the mailbox alone when imapd is doing an update, he has to play by the rules established by UNIX mail delivery software. One of those rules are to use lock files in /var/spool/mail. The same holds true for MMDF or whatever other mail delivery system you use. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:07:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA20157 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA10631 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:05:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from monty.phys.UVic.CA (monty.phys.UVic.CA [142.104.61.62]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA10627 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:05:17 -0800 Received: from localhost by monty.phys.UVic.CA with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA146172715; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:05:15 -0800 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:05:14 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Bishop To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Quick question Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there: This isn't so much a suggestion is it is a very quick question. I was just curious as to how often PINE 3.94 cycles in its attempts to resend email that is initially unable to reach it's destination. Every hour, every 2 hours....?? Thanks. ************************************************************************ * Shawn Bishop, B.Sc. "May you have the strength of Eagles' * * wings, the faith and courage to fly * * University of Victoria to new heights, and the wisdom of * * Department of Physics, universe to carry you there." * * P.O. Box 3055, * * Victoria, B.C. * * V8W 3P6 "No bird soars so high as that with * * his own wings." * * * * Work Phone: Office (250) 721-7732 * * Lab (250) 721-8336 * ************************************************************************ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:45:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA18804 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:45:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA13132 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:42:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA13128 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:42:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWrtb-00038UC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 14:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5BBUG=5DCannot_type_8bit_char_at_Subjec?= Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 21:21:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Qin An wrote: > Is it possible to type 8bit characters at Subject field > in the current version? Yes it is. At least I've done it (in the Linux, SunOS, MS-DOS, Win16 and Win32 versions) \\// Peter - Sladdpost: m9944@abc.se - Webb: http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:45:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA20048 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA11151 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:42:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA11147 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:41:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWrtb-00038TC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 14:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stella@rci.rutgers.edu (Ricardo Stella) Subject: Re: Pine Upgrade Date: 6 Dec 1996 10:51:29 -0500 Message-ID: <589fe1$k29@amenti.rutgers.edu> References: <57chaj$9jm@news.mhv.net> scvikevich@news.mhv.net () writes: >My provider mhvnet is not currently willing to upgarde from their current >3.89 version of Pine to 3.95. I have a UNIX shell account there. Could I >just copy some binaries and get the necessary instructions for changing the >config files (.pinerc and such) and do the upgrade just for myself ? >The shell environment uses the Sun Solaris 2.X. Sure... but you need some decent space... It takes 2697984 bytes on Solaris 2.4 DISCLAIMER: These are only my own opinions and views... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- stella@pluto.njcc.com Ricardo Stella http://pluto.njcc.com/~stella Up the Irons... _suAve_ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:46:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA18715 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA11166 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:42:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA11162 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:42:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWrtf-00038XC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 14:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: przec@westminster.ac.uk (David Waters) Subject: adding reply-to field Date: 6 Dec 1996 00:13:42 GMT Message-ID: <587ofm$l1r@badger.wmin.ac.uk> Hello, Does anyone know if it is possible to add a reply-to: field in outgoing mail. I should note that this answer should not include editing the source and recompiling!! David -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:46:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA20093 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA13126 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:42:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA13122 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:41:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWrrm-00038BC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 14:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Why aggregate so difficult? Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 17:31:06 -0500 Message-ID: References: <58d9ji$add@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <58d9ji$add@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 8 Dec 1996, Andrew Vardy wrote: > I'd just like to know why are the aggregate commands so difficult? [...] > But why isn't Pine smart enough to let me do this: Any computer program is only as "smart" as the programming design and effort put into it. Are you volunteering to reprogram Pine? :-) You may, of course, make your wishes known to the Pine Development Team at the University of Washington. > [...] > As it is, too many keypresses are required to select messages. > > The selection criteria are Ok, sort of - IF the messages I want match some > simple criteria. But it's too cumbersome. And presuming there is a > criteria I can use, if I am in a News folder, it will take too long. It all depends on what you want to do. For the tasks I wish to use the aggregate commands for, the current setup has been not only adequate but fast and easy. I suspect that, like many things in life, Pine's design contains a few trade-offs. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:46:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA20672 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA11160 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:42:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA11156 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:42:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWrtc-00038VC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 14:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stella@rci.rutgers.edu (Ricardo Stella) Subject: suggestion for PC Pine 4 Date: 6 Dec 1996 11:08:21 -0500 Message-ID: <589gdl$kp2@amenti.rutgers.edu> Currently, if the username is not set on the pinerc file, it would prompt for it and modify the pinerc file with it making it the default. Could there be a way to leave the default username blank, then use the username and default imap server for the reply address ? This would be very helpfull in a lab environment, where users vary from session to session. Since they still need to log into the IMAP server, there wouldn't be any problem with security. DISCLAIMER: These are only my own opinions and views... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- stella@pluto.njcc.com Ricardo Stella http://pluto.njcc.com/~stella Up the Irons... _suAve_ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:46:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA21280 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA13138 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:42:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA13134 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:42:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWrtd-00038WC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 14:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Got a question. Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 09:29:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Dec 1996, Hollie Mello wrote: > I got a question. Back in Gretna where I used to have e-mail, we > had a telephone type thing where you could call someone up and write to > them in a phone coversation sort of way. We don't have that here at Skutt > and I would like to know how to set it up. > Any help is appreciated. This is not a Pine question, because Pine is not intended to do the sort of thing you are inquiring about. There may be various ways of doing what you want to do. Because you appear to be writing from an educational institution, I would suggest inquiring of the help desk or information center or whatever they have set up to help users. (Most universities of any quality have them.) There are too many variables, and you did not provide enough information, even if your question were relevant to this group. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:53:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA21254 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA11293 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:52:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA11288 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:52:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWs0X-00038TC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 14:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Domain name in Message-Id using PCPine/PCP Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 20:49:14 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I get the domain name in the Message-Id when using the PCPine PCP (packet driver) version? I only get my IP address in brackets. When I use the Win16 version, PCW, it gets it there. \\// Peter - Sladdpost: m9944@abc.se - Webb: http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:54:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA21563 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:54:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA13262 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:52:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA13258 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:51:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWs0P-00038BC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 14:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov (Stefan Chakerian) Subject: Re: can't post to newsgroups Date: 4 Dec 1996 12:03:19 -0700 Message-ID: <584htn$or4@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov> References: On 2 Dec 1996, Chris wrote: » I am just writing to ask why I can no longer post to newsgroups. I have a counterexample. stef -- Stefan Chakerian Sysadmin, Sandia National Labs schake@cs.sandia.gov I do not speak for my employer Don't anthropomorphize computers. They don't like it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:08:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA21326 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA11470 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:06:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA11466 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:06:09 -0800 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 9 Dec 96 07:04:53 +0800 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:04:52 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Shawn Bishop cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Quick question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Shawn Bishop wrote: > I was just curious as to how often PINE 3.94 cycles in its attempts to > resend email that is initially unable to reach it's destination. Every > hour, every 2 hours....?? Never. Once pine (a User Agent) hands over the email to an MTA (Message Transport Agent), e.g. sendmail, MMDF, PMDF, etc., it is the job (responsibility) of the MTA to retry delivery. Normally, the retry time is set to something around 15minutes with a max. of 72 hours at each MTA. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:52:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA21447 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:52:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA12189 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:50:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from host.pc.centuryinter.net (host.znut.com [206.65.177.250]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA12185 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 15:50:34 -0800 Received: from anxp14.mc.centuryinter.net by host.pc.centuryinter.net; (5.65/1.1.8.2/16Aug95-0520PM) id AA24653; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:50:24 -0500 Message-Id: <32AB5483.3540@centuryinter.net> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:51:31 -0500 From: Danny X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: (no subject) X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00725.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In Paul's second letter to the Thessalonians, verse 15 he wrote; " So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter." 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Please join us at: http://www.Christway.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:14:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA22340 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA14497 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:12:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA14493 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:12:20 -0800 Received: from LOCALNAME (bal-md3-09.ix.netcom.com [199.183.205.105]) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA01080 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:12:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199612090012.QAA01080@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 96 19:03:58 -0800 From: "E. Neil Jacobs" X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; U; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii could you explain to me, or help me find basic information on how to down loada nd up load files and other material? I'd be very grateful, as a novice I'm losst and your address is the closest title U can find. Thanks for your consideration. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:15:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA21155 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA14485 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:12:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA14481 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:12:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWtKG-00038BC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 16:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Justify During Reply (was Pine vs NX) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 01:04:56 GMT Message-ID: <585708$fsj@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <584rn1$9uv@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I don't think it's a bug; I think it's a feature. No, really. The reply-indent-string is (theoretically) only of special significance during a REPLY. Justification using CTRL-J works just fine in both REPLY and COMPOSE modes; it just doesn't pay special attention to the reply-indent-string during COMPOSE mode. It would be nice if Pine kept track of the current mode when a message gets postponed, so that resuming that message returned you to the appropriate (REPLY or COMPOSE) mode. This would, I think, solve the problem of continuing a postponed reply and having CTRL-J "misbehave." On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Michael wrote: >On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Ramanuj Basu wrote: >: Pine seems to be "smart" about re-wrapping lines paying attention to the >: quote character only when REPLYing to a message. When you resume a >: reply, you're in COMPOSE mode, not REPLY mode. That's my theory, anyway. >So would this seem to be a bug? An oversight? Worthy of a Bug report? >Seeing how the composer should be able to justify in either COMPOSE or >REPLY mode. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:14:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA20563 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA16203 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:12:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA16199 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:12:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWv98-00038UC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 18:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: marking headers read in Usenet Date: 4 Dec 1996 21:09:08 GMT Message-ID: References: <584nd3$r8f@andromeda.rutgers.edu> On 4 Dec 1996 15:36:51 -0500, Housen Maratouk wrote: [<-->] I recently began using pine as a newsreader. In the past, I have always [<-->] used 'nn' and when I wanted to mark all headers in a group read, I would just [<-->] hold -X. Is there any equivalent to that command in pine or are we [<-->] expected to individually 'delete' each header? Enable the 'enable-aggregate-command-set' feature in Pine. Use ;AAD [ ; = Select command A = All articles A = Apply comand D = Mark deleted ] to mark all the articles are read. --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:15:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA22905 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA14226 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:12:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA14221 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:12:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWv8S-00038TC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 18:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: Reply to all recipients? Date: 4 Dec 1996 20:24:46 GMT Message-ID: References: <584ko9$ca7$1@news.ececs.uc.edu> On 4 Dec 1996 19:51:37 GMT, Jie Yuan wrote: [<-->] In article , [<-->] vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) writes: [<-->] [<-->] > I am using Pine 4.0 on Solaris 2.5 [<-->] [<-->] I thought 3.95 was the current. Is 4.0 out? Maybe he is a beta [<-->] tester. But ... Oops... Sorry for the typo.. I am using Pine 3.95 on Solaris 2.5 --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:55:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA23564 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:55:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA15745 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:47:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA15741 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:47:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWwfQ-00038TC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 19:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdewick@lios.apana.org.au (Craig Dewick) Subject: PINE and newsgroup subject threading Date: 9 Dec 1996 11:31:59 +1100 Message-ID: <58fmlv$sth@lios.apana.org.au> When using PINE to read articles in newsgroups, is it possible to configure it to correctly sort and index news articles in a group according to the progress of subject threads? I use NN extensively because it's support of subject threading is very good. PINE doesn't seem to have any support for subject threading at all. The articles are presented in the order that the NNTP server provides them. Is support for subject threading something that other people would like to see in future releases? I think it's important because for PINE to be a universal solution it needs to support features which make newsreading more intuitive. Regards, Craig. -- Craig Dewick. Send email to 'cdewick@lios.apana.org.au' Point a web browser at 'http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick/sun_ark.html' to access my collection of Sun information and links to other places. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:01:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA23231 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:01:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA17854 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:57:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com (nerc1.nerc.com [205.247.120.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA17844 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:57:37 -0800 Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (luomat@nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA25752; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:56:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:56:33 -0500 (EST) From: Timothy Luoma Reply-To: Tim Luoma To: Craig Dewick cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE and newsgroup subject threading In-Reply-To: <58fmlv$sth@lios.apana.org.au> Message-ID: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-URL: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try sorting by "OrderedSubject" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:20:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA11780 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA18135 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:17:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opera.iinet.net.au (opera.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA18125 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:17:39 -0800 Received: from grunge.iinet.net.au (grunge.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.9]) by opera.iinet.net.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28055 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:17:36 +0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by grunge.iinet.net.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id MAA14638 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:09:48 +0800 Received: by winthrop.wininv.iinet.net.au (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA08262; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:10:03 +0800 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:10:02 +0800 (WST) From: Nick Higgins Subject: Unable to EXPUNGE from INBOX (Still) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have two separate SCO boxes running mmdf and pine. One will expunge messages from the inbox (and any other folder) the other will not. I have looked at and compared all the permissions on all the files/programs involved (at least all the ones I know about). These were /usr/spool/mail/???? /tmp /usr/bin/pine The version of pine is a precompiled version from cac.washington.edu: v3.91 Nothing appears to _me_ to be different. That's not to say they aren't and quite obviously there is a difference between the configurations. But I'll be b******d if I can see it! I have had a look at locking and can't see anything. I have had a look at the .pine-debug files with -d9 set. Nada. The annoying thing is that it says it it doing it all ok, but then the messages are there again when I re-enter pine. I have logged on as root and the same thing happens. I have set the uid and guid for pine itself to root. Zip. Someone please help as either my forehead or the screen is going to break in the not too distant future. All suggestions gratefully received... TIA Nick. ******************************************************************************** Nick Higgins ;-) nick@wininv.iinet.net.au 'Phone (09) 474 2111 (work) fax (09) 367 4214 (09) 343 5406 (home) ... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this article.) ******************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:20:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA24194 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA18124 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:17:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA18119 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:17:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vWx6R-00038BC; Sun, 8 Dec 96 20:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdewick@lios.apana.org.au (Craig Dewick) Subject: Re: Unsubscribing from Newsgroups? Date: 7 Dec 1996 21:54:32 +1100 Message-ID: <58bid8$qsb@lios.apana.org.au> References: In Albert S Chi writes: >Using Pine 3.93 running under ULTRIX V4.4 (Rev. 69), I can't seem to >properly unsubscribe from newsgroups. When I use the D command in the >Folder Index, I'm prompted to confirm the removal, and all appears well. >But when I restart Pine, the unsubscribed newsgroups reappear. >In my .newsrc, the unsubscribed newsgroups were !'d. The only way I could get >Pine to ignore the groups was to delete them from the .newsrc. Is this >normal? Thanks in advance. NN ignores entries that have been marked with '!' replacing the ':' in .newsrc, and I'd assumed PINE did the same thing. Maybe this was fixed in one of the later versions? Regards, Craig. -- Craig Dewick. Send email to 'cdewick@lios.apana.org.au' Point a web browser at 'http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick/sun_ark.html' to access my collection of Sun information and links to other places. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:26:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA24211 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA18214 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:24:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server07.icaen.uiowa.edu (server07.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.47]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA18210 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:23:59 -0800 From: anantha@icaen.uiowa.edu Received: from server01.icaen.uiowa.edu (root@server01.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.41]) by server07.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA00639 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:23:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from l-ecn033.icaen.uiowa.edu (anantha@l-ecn033.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.153]) by server01.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA07988 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:23:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by l-ecn033.icaen.uiowa.edu (1.37.109.16/client-1.3) id AA259915436; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:23:56 -0600 Message-Id: <199612090423.AA259915436@l-ecn033.icaen.uiowa.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:23:56 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe pine-info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:26:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA16593 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA16224 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:23:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server07.icaen.uiowa.edu (server07.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.47]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA16220 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 20:23:27 -0800 From: anantha@icaen.uiowa.edu Received: from server01.icaen.uiowa.edu (root@server01.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.41]) by server07.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA00633 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:23:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from l-ecn033.icaen.uiowa.edu (anantha@l-ecn033.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.153]) by server01.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA07974 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:23:24 -0600 (CST) Received: by l-ecn033.icaen.uiowa.edu (1.37.109.16/client-1.3) id AA259795402; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:23:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199612090423.AA259795402@l-ecn033.icaen.uiowa.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:23:22 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit help From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:46:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA21523 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA17992 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:40:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acme.csusb.edu (acme.csusb.edu [139.182.2.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA17988 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:40:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (gharrell@localhost) by acme.csusb.edu (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA12517 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:38:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:38:36 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Harrell To: PineBoard Subject: Entertainment!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey have you heard of these great Web sights accessed by typing in engien words like "Date" "Fun" "Stocks" "Chat" "INNER" "Future" "Sports" "Games" "Love" "Money", if you search any of the following you'll know what I'm saying; these search engines can be used on: What's New Too, NCSA What's New, Tradewave Galaxy (E!NET), A2Z, World Wide Yellow Pages, Virtual Yellow Pages, Yahoo, Apollo, Excite Hotbot and the Mega Mall maybe some others or less try it and see. They say if you like it tell a friend... if you have any problem or questions just E-me...! Remember to tell a friend. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 00:46:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA25670 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 00:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA19568 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 00:43:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA19564 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 00:43:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vX1IL-00038BC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 00:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stella@rci.rutgers.edu (Ricardo Stella) Subject: Port to java or cgi ? Date: 6 Dec 1996 10:48:22 -0500 Message-ID: <589f86$jta@amenti.rutgers.edu> Has anyone looked at the possibility of porting Pine to either Java or a CGI ? This would enable e-mail access to an IMAP server from within a browser... I've seen at least one such thing but going the POP route... DISCLAIMER: These are only my own opinions and views... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- stella@pluto.njcc.com Ricardo Stella http://pluto.njcc.com/~stella Up the Irons... _suAve_ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 01:53:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA13646 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 01:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA22383 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 01:48:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA22379 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 01:48:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vX2Gy-00038BC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 01:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vincent Hancock Subject: Re: adding reply-to field Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 04:46:59 -0600 Message-ID: References: <587ofm$l1r@badger.wmin.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <587ofm$l1r@badger.wmin.ac.uk> On 6 Dec 1996, David Waters wrote: > Does anyone know if it is possible to add a reply-to: field > in outgoing mail. > > I should note that this answer should not include editing > the source and recompiling!! In PINE 3.95, from the main menu, choose Setup, then Configuration. Look for "OPTION: Customized-Headers". From the PINE online help: You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. Each header you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value for that header. If you want to see these custom headers each time you compose a message, you must add them to your default composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part of the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich header (Ctrl-R) command. i.e., I could use: Reply-To: Vincent Hancock to encourage replies to my alternate address. BTW, did you realize that you can use PINE as your news reader? I'm using it right now to reply to you and cross-post to the news group at the same time :-) With that in mind, please send any personal replies via e-mail (I don't read news that often.) -- This message was written with 100% recycled electrons --- \|^|/ (o o) ___________________ooO_(_)_Ooo_____________________ | Vince Hancock: vhancock@southwind.net (Preferred) | | vincent.hancock@twsubbs.twsu.edu (alternate) | | WWW: http://www2.southwind.net/~vhancock | +---------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 03:50:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA18046 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 03:50:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA21571 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 03:43:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA21567 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 03:43:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vX45K-00038BC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 03:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Reply to all recipients? Date: 4 Dec 1996 19:51:37 GMT Message-ID: <584ko9$ca7$1@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) writes: > I am using Pine 4.0 on Solaris 2.5 I thought 3.95 was the current. Is 4.0 out? Maybe he is a beta tester. But ... Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == Email: Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = WWW: http://uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews== == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 04:46:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA28136 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 04:46:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA24346 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 04:43:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA24342 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 04:43:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vX52I-00038BC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 04:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Gerald Pfeifer) Subject: Re: [BUG]Cannot type 8bit char at Subject! Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 12:27:20 GMT Message-ID: <32ac04a6.4465347@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Qin An wrote: > Is it possible to type 8bit characters at Subject field > in the current version? Why not? Yes it is. (And yes, Pine doesn't just do it, it complies with the according standards when doing so.) Ciao, Gerald ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- .. Gerald Pfeifer (Jerry) Vienna University of Technology . .. pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ . From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 05:51:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA26512 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 05:51:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA23014 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 05:48:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA23004 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 05:48:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA08893; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:48:19 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:48:19 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer To: Mike Brudenell cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Folder Collections In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I want to set up "Collections" to save folders by subject. I was able to set up a second collection, by adding, in Setup, Configuration the name of the collection, namely: MTB, ie: folder-collections = mail/[] MTB/[] I restarted Pine. Now, when I try to save a message or add a new folder in the MTB collection I get a message as folows: [Can't create mailbox MTB/accident: No such file or directory] (The screen looks like this): -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Incoming Message Folders -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- INBOX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection ** Default for Saves ** (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] I'd certainly appreciate any early advice. Have been unable to get from the help screens. Thank you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 06:33:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA28791 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 06:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA23440 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 06:28:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA23436 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 06:28:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vX6fO-00038BC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 06:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5BBUG=5DCannot_type_8bit_char_at_Subjec?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?t!___--=3E=E5=E4=F6?= Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 08:42:32 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Peter Karlsson wrote: > On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Qin An wrote: >=20 > > Is it possible to type 8bit characters at Subject field > > in the current version?=20 >=20 > Yes it is. At least I've done it (in the Linux, SunOS, MS-DOS, Win16 and > Win32 versions) By what means do you get the 8-bit characters into the subject field? (I saw the ones you entered without difficulty: =E5=E4=F6. The message body is easy when using an appropriate alternate editor.) I think it is interesting that the MIME headers still marked your post as US-ASCII. Apparently Pine does not look at the headers when deciding whether to flag the message as something other than US-ASCII. (Also, unfortunately, I have been told that "officially" Usenet is still 7-bit, like email, and that not all news transporters reliably pass MIME headers.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key=20 Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart =20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:04:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA24621 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:04:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA23818 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 06:59:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA23814 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 06:59:33 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:55:57 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id OAA05813; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:56:30 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:56:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: John de Boer cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Folder Collections In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Have you remembered to create the "MTB" directory (at your command prompt, outside of Pine)? The folder collection string "MTB/[]" means "the folder (whatever) in the directory MTB in my home directory". Whilst Pine is prepared to create the folder file if it doesn't already exist, it isn't willing to create the directory itself. Personally I use a somewhat sneaky trick of putting my folder collection directories inside my "Mail" directory in my home directory, and giving them names beginning with a ".". This makes them invisible to most Pine functions so they're out of the way, but configured into the mail-collections variable they work just fine. This MAY mean they'll be easier to migrate to when true hierarchical folders come along. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, John de Boer wrote: > hello Mike > > A few days ago you were kind enough to advise on folder colections, to > "group" folders with a common subject together. > > I was able to set up a collection, by adding, in Setup, Configuration the > name of the collection, namely: MTB, ie: > > > folder-collections = mail/[] > MTB/[] > > I restarted Pine. > > Now, when I tried to Add a new folder in this collection, in the same way > as I did when there was onlt yhe default collection, I get the following > response: > > > (This is the screen): > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Incoming Message Folders > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > INBOX > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Folder-collection ** Default for Saves ** > (Local) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Folder-collection > (Local) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] > > > And this is the message: > > > [Can't create mailbox MTB/Admin: No such file or directory] > > > > > I was also unable to find the way to transfer folders in the first > collection to the MTB collection. > > > I'd certainly appreciate any advice > > > Thank you > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:42:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA29615 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA26405 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:34:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA26401 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:34:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vX7hX-00038BC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 07:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmiles@borabora.bbn.com (Robert Miles) Subject: Re: Reply to all/doesnt Date: 9 Dec 1996 10:25:51 -0500 Message-ID: <58hb1v$b5@borabora.bbn.com> References: <19961207164200.LAA17495@ladder01.news.aol.com> In article <19961207164200.LAA17495@ladder01.news.aol.com>, wrote: >We are using pine via a un*x system. Users swear that when "reply to all" >is >selected, some users are left out of the loop. Is this possible? How? I remember seeing a UNIX mail system where if a message was sent to a list of users, and one of the addresses in the list was unreachable, then all attempts to deliver the message to the addresses following the unreachable one were delayed until the address became reachable - which often didn't happen. I've forgotten the details, though, including which flavor of UNIX it was. If this is the problem, the solution is to edit all permanently unreachable addresses out of the list, and move the temporarily unreachable ones to the end of the list. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:51:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA31911 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:51:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA27895 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:46:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opus.csd.uwm.edu (opus.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.124.22]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA27890 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:46:55 -0800 Received: (dave@localhost) by opus.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.3/8.6.4) id KAA14943; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:46:51 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:46:50 -0600 (CST) From: Dave Rasmussen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: using external speller with pine? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I had a user ask me about using ispell with pine, so if I setenv SPELL "ispell -x" all I get is the syntax from ispell on how to use it. Is this a known bug in pine 3.95 or should I be using some other options or? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 09:09:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA32403 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 09:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA26460 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 09:05:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from beta.loyno.edu (beta.loyno.edu [141.164.1.44]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA26454 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 09:05:27 -0800 Received: by beta.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/31Oct96-0621AM) id AA05532; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:09:46 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:09:46 -0600 (CST) From: Russell Johnson To: pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info Russell Johnson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:04:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA29872 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA01495 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:58:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from howard.paciolan.com ([165.113.222.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA01491 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:58:12 -0800 Received: by howard.paciolan.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA44447; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:58:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:58:40 -0800 (PST) From: Shivinder Singh To: Eric Tse Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Hiding Distribution List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Where can one find the BCC field **************************************************************************** Shivinder Singh |"Time they say is the cure for all worries Paciolan Systems |and pain, the worry is that, Time is in ssingh@paciolan.com |fact the cause..." /sh/ ***************************************************************************** On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Eric Tse wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Jackie Mak wrote: > > > How can I hide the distribution list on To: field? > > My list has over 300 addresses. > > Put the list of addresses in the BCC field, and put at least 1 address > in the TO field (necessary). > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:13:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA02620 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA29527 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:09:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA29523 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:09:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXB2d-00038UC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 11:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Folder Collections Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 17:12:25 GMT Message-ID: <589k27$3t8@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: I suspect the problem is that you haven't yet created the MTB directory. Setting the "folder-collections" identifies files in the MTB directory as mail folders, but the directory itself must exist. Exit Pine and create the directory at the system level, then re-enter Pine. -Ram Basu -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On 5 Dec 1996, jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au (John de Boer) wrote: >I was able to set up a collection, by adding, in Setup, Configuration the >name of the collection, namely: MTB, ie: >folder-collections = mail/[] > MTB/[] >Now, when I tried to Add a new folder in this collection, in the same way >as I did when there was onlt yhe default collection, I get the following >response: > [Can't create mailbox MTB/Admin: No such file or directory] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:58:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA03008 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA00932 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:51:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opus.csd.uwm.edu (opus.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.124.22]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA00920; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:51:34 -0800 Received: (dave@localhost) by opus.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.3/8.6.4) id NAA15691; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:51:33 -0600 From: Dave Rasmussen Message-Id: <199612091951.NAA15691@opus.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: Re: Inbox conflict - how to deal with? To: gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:51:32 -0600 (CST) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Terry Gray" at Dec 3, 96 07:17:33 pm Word-of-the-day: goer X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23beta2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Dec 3 21:27:43 1996 >I don't have answers to your specific questions, but I believe you can at >least access the miscreant inbox by doing a GOTO ~/mail/inbox (or >whatever path is appropriate). > >-teg > >> If pine refers to the /usr/spool/mail/$user file as the inbox and then >> some user creates a folder in their mail directory called inbox, how >> can I as a system administrator make sure that this either doesn't happen >> or that the users will see these as seperate files? >> This works, but for the novice user who wants to see it on his folder list, are there any plans in the pine team to address this issue? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:01:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA03188 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA01091 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:56:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from beta.loyno.edu (beta.loyno.edu [141.164.1.44]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA01078 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:56:30 -0800 Received: by beta.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/31Oct96-0621AM) id AA14052; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:42:24 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:42:23 -0600 (CST) From: Russell Johnson To: pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info Russell Johnson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:37:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA05659 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA06071 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:27:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from centigram.com (pix253.centigram.com [198.137.183.253]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA06066 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:27:19 -0800 Received: from rod ([129.5.226.15]) by centigram.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14234 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:27:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32AC135C.129C@smtpgateway.centigram.com> Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 13:25:48 +0000 From: Roderick Toliver Organization: Centigram X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Fast Cash!!! X-URL: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00771.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit !Fast Cash 1! [Image] STARTING A MAILING LIST AS A $50,000.00 A MONTH BUSINESS This is a real opportunity to make BIG money fast and begin your own home-based business at the same time. Read the information below and follow the guidelines exactly. You too will be on your way to making your financial dreams a reality! This program was given to me and now I am sharing it with you. Give it a chance and you too will make the money you need to get the life you want and deserve. I have already seen the money coming in from it. This program takes very little time and energy to put into action, and it REALLY works! So, if you want to make allot of money and start your own business at the same time, then GO FOR IT! INSTRUCTIONS Follow these instructions EXACTLY and in 20-60 days you will have received well over $50,000.00 cash in the mail. 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Columbus, OH 43214 2. Laurel Kelly 4533 Niagra Ave. San Diego, CA 92107 3. Chris Zasarno 5313 NW 53 CI Coconut Creek, Fl. 33073 4. Darrin Mc Laughlin PO Box 261312 San Diego, CA 92196 5. Toliver Enterprise PO Box 1006 Vallejo, CA 94590 2.) Print out this page. Remove the name that appears as number 1 on the list. Move the other 4 names up one position (Number 2 becomes number 1, number 3 becomes number 2 and so on). Place your name, address and zip code in the number 5 position. ( you can use a photocopier to do this) 3. With your name in the number 5 position you are now ready to begin developing your own mailing list. There are two ways to do this. The first is to Bulk E-mail this same document to as many E-mail addresses as possible. The recipients will then intern do the same while sending you $1.00 to be on your mailing list. 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[Image] [Image] [Image] [Image] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:38:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA06408 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA07842 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:31:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from outpost (outpost.sage.edu [199.98.171.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA07833 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:31:53 -0800 Received: from Sage.Edu (hopper-bb) by outpost (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26723; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:27:41 -0500 Received: by Sage.Edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA05606; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:30:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:30:41 -0500 (EST) From: Rolf Ahlers To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ISO 8859-1 character set Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to request information on the ISO 8859-1 character set. Your address was mentioned as a possible source of this character set on my www search. I write in American English on the Internet. I also write in German on the Internet, and all German messages I send out lack specific German characters. When I receive from family members, friends and colleagues from Germany messages, they always come with a preface indicating that the messages have been sent in the ISO 8859-1 character set and have been translated into the ASCII character set. When I receive that message, I get the whole German message intact, with all Umlauts and other unique German characters. But I cannot reply with all of the characters intact in the whole message. It occurs to me that I must use that same character set, instead of the ASCII character set. I have received messages from American colleagues in the USA with that same preface, they write in the ISO 8859-1 character set, quoting German text within otherwise English text. That is, when one writes with the ISO 8859-1 set, one can also write English in addition to German. The German alphabet simply has more characters than English. Please inform me as to how I can get and use this character set. I use here at Sage the Pine system, for which reason I write to you. Please respond. Sincerely, Prof. Dr. Rolf Ahlers University Heights 3 Academy Road Albany, New York, 12208-3102 Fax/Phone: (518) 270-2322 e-mail: ahlerr@sage.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:40:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA09618 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA09608 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:35:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA09589 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:34:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXFDe-00038TC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 15:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stella@rci.rutgers.edu (Ricardo Stella) Subject: Re: "Penpal Msg" Virus Alert Date: 6 Dec 1996 11:14:51 -0500 Message-ID: <589gpr$l43@amenti.rutgers.edu> References: Please... not another GOOD TIME virus type... I still get them messages even after 2-3 years... It's most likely a hoax... DISCLAIMER: These are only my own opinions and views... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- stella@pluto.njcc.com Ricardo Stella http://pluto.njcc.com/~stella Up the Irons... _suAve_ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:40:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA08163 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:40:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA09617 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:35:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA09610 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:35:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXFDf-00038VC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 15:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vkruse@NL.net (Villy Kruse) Subject: Re: pop servers Date: 6 Dec 1996 17:54:07 +0100 Message-ID: <589j3f$gd2@solair1.inter.NL.net> References: <1.5.4.16.19961202071846.08279072@utso.ut.nrcs.usda.gov> mwilson@ut.nrcs.usda.gov (Mary Ann Wilson) writes: >I am trying to find information on how to set up a Solaris 2.4 system as a >pop server. I have done this on a UNIXWARE 2.03 computer, but can't seem to >find what I need for the Solaris computer. >Any advice is appreciated. >Mary Ann Wilson If you are not afraid of compiling the source, you can find a pop3 server in the pine package. This should be available on any of the linux distri- bution ftp sites. I have done that for a Motorola Delta box and it works fine as a pop server. Another possibility is "popper", but I dont remember where to find that one. Maybe you should ask archie, the archie program. Best of luck, Villy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:41:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA16012 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:41:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA07297 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:35:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA07285 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:35:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXFDe-00038UC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 15:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stella@rci.rutgers.edu (Ricardo Stella) Subject: Re: Warning Date: 6 Dec 1996 11:19:16 -0500 Message-ID: <589h24$l9p@amenti.rutgers.edu> References: <32A347E1.1AD2@ing.umu.se> Bo Branten writes: >The precompiled versions on ftp.cac.washington.edu gives the >.pine-debugn files. (On our system that wastes 19MB) > /Bo Branten Somewhere on the readme files, it specifies why it was compiled that way. Simply run pine with the -d 0 switch. Or simply, rename pine to say pine-real and then create a 'pine' script that calls 'pine-real -d 0' DISCLAIMER: These are only my own opinions and views... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- stella@pluto.njcc.com Ricardo Stella http://pluto.njcc.com/~stella Up the Irons... _suAve_ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:48:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA30114 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA09092 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:45:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA09088 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:45:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXGJD-00038TC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 16:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: úÈ6·jim@acb2.cgs.edu (Jim Kieley) Subject: SMTP not supported with Netscape's mail server? Date: 9 Dec 1996 21:01:24 GMT Message-ID: <58hun4$g4g@epcot.pomona.edu> I have set up Netscape's mail server 2.0 on a Sparc running Solaris 2.5. When I try to send mail when logged into the system via Pine I get the message: cgssun.cgs.edu SMTP not supported Any suggestions? Jim Kieley jim@cgs.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:50:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA30247 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA10451 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:45:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from coopext.cahe.wsu.edu (coopext.cahe.wsu.edu [134.121.1.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA10447 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:45:38 -0800 From: kasap@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu Received: by coopext.cahe.wsu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/24Aug94-0837AM) id AA24799; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:45:37 -0800 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:45:37 -0800 Message-Id: <9612100145.AA24799@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.3 BETA X-Personal_Name: Patt Kasa Subject: pine problem I keep getting the following error message: "Disc quota exceeded". There are only a few messages in any of my folders. What caused this and how can I get rid of it? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:11:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA17020 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:11:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA11785 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:08:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cruznet2.cruznet.net (cruznet2.cruznet.net [204.140.239.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA11781 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:08:37 -0800 Received: from cruznet2.cruznet.net (indigo@cruznet2.cruznet.net [204.140.239.2]) by cruznet2.cruznet.net (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA19419 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:28:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:28:31 -0800 (PST) From: Wendy Van Camp To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem with Adding Newsgroups Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use Pine 3.91 not only for email, but to read my newsgroups as well. For the last several months, I have been unable to add any new newsgroups to my folder list. Is this a bug that was fixed by a later version of Pine? Or are there settings that I need to do to my PINE program that would fix the problem? I think that I probably have the configuration correct though since I am able to read the few newsgroups I was able to gather when I first started here in a normal manner. **Wendy Van Camp** **indigo@cruznet.net** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:14:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA10693 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA11836 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:12:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from academ03.sal.itesm.mx (academ03.sal.itesm.mx [200.34.106.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA11832 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:12:31 -0800 Received: from localhost by academ03.sal.itesm.mx (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA05780; Mon, 9 Dec 96 20:47:46 CST Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:47:45 -0600 (CST) From: "Ing. Jose Sergio Arizpe Trevino" Reply-To: "Ing. Jose Sergio Arizpe Trevino" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: .pine-debug* files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, how can i stop creating the .pine-debug* files, cause i have a little quota and they occupies space. Thanks //Sergio A. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:17:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA12530 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:17:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA11871 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:15:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from academ03.sal.itesm.mx (academ03.sal.itesm.mx [200.34.106.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA11864 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:14:59 -0800 Received: from localhost by academ03.sal.itesm.mx (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA05793; Mon, 9 Dec 96 20:50:09 CST Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:50:08 -0600 (CST) From: "Ing. Jose Sergio Arizpe Trevino" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Precompiled version. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, where can i find the precompiled file of the pine collection for the FreeBSD operating system. Thanks //Sergio A. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:43:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA12954 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:43:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA15580 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:40:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA15576 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:40:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXJxj-00038TC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 20:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marc Montemorra Subject: Re: UNIX Pine reading mail on NT based NS Mail 2.01 via IMAP Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 19:36:34 -0800 Message-ID: <32ACDABA.12B6@CSUN.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops...in my post I said that UNIX Pine version 3.95 gave the same results as the other versions but it really gives the following: In the "Folders List" after trying to add a new folder with {darkwing.csun.edu/user=marc.montemorra}INBOX I get "[rsh to IMAP server timed out]" and then HOST: darkwing.csun.edu USER: marc.montemorra ENTER PASSWORD: I enter my password and then get [CREATE failed: Can't create mailbox INBOX: mailbox already exists] What am I doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated. Please post responses to the group and to my email. aTdHvAaNnKcSe ----- Marc Montemorra Networking and Systems Analyst California State University, Northridge EMail: Marc.Montemorra@CSUN.Edu Phone: (818) 677-4114 FAX: (818) 677-3241 Pager: (818) 513-4360 *** In the fields of observation chance favors only the prepared mind. *** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:28:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA14306 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:28:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA15517 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:25:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA15513 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:25:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXMW1-00038TC; Mon, 9 Dec 96 23:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: martok@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Housen Maratouk) Subject: marking headers read in Usenet Date: 4 Dec 1996 15:36:51 -0500 Message-ID: <584nd3$r8f@andromeda.rutgers.edu> I recently began using pine as a newsreader. In the past, I have always used 'nn' and when I wanted to mark all headers in a group read, I would just hold -X. Is there any equivalent to that command in pine or are we expected to individually 'delete' each header? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Housen Maratouk Rutgers University- Newark Campus martok@andromeda.rutgers.edu English Dept. 614 Hill Hall From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:10:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA08138 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA18384 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:07:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zwei.siemens.at (zwei.siemens.at [193.81.246.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA18380 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:07:02 -0800 Received: from graz.pseg.siemens.co.at (root@[10.1.143.100]) by zwei.siemens.at (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08556 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:07:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from ws6a21.pseg.siemens.co.at by graz.pseg.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3 for ) id m0vXNEX-000LB4C; Tue, 10 Dec 96 09:08 MET Received: from localhost by ws6a21.pseg.siemens.co.at (1.39.111.2/1.37) id AA208155151; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:05:51 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:05:51 +0100 (MET) From: Diethard Ohrt Reply-To: ohrt@ws2318.gud.siemens.co.at To: Dave Rasmussen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: using external speller with pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Company: Siemens AG Organization: PSE TMN Graz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Dave Rasmussen wrote: [> I had a user ask me about using ispell with pine, so if I [> setenv SPELL "ispell -x" [> all I get is the syntax from ispell on how to use it. Is this a known [> bug in pine 3.95 or should I be using some other options or? [> [> Maybe it's the same problem as that with printers which was discussed here some time ago? What I guess: if you call your speller from within pine, it is accessed via a pipe, so it gets its input from stdin, not from a file, similar to: cat {temporary file} | ispell -x If so, you have to check if and how ispell can handle this correctly. If not -- well, this was just a suggestion ... Cheers, Diti _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _ __------ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | -- \ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ |_ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | ___-\ o | _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ /_/ | | |__---| Diethard Ohrt Steiermark - das gruene Herz Oesterreichs SIEMENS AG / PSE TMN G1 Styria - the green heart of Austria A-8054 Graz Austria Styrie - le coeur vert d'Autriche =========================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:02:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA16155 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:02:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA19794 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 01:59:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA19786 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 01:59:41 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:55:49 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA09555; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:56:24 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:56:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Dave Rasmussen cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: using external speller with pine? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I believe the "official" way of using a different spell checker within Pine is to set it up in Pine's Setup Configuration screen. There you will find a variable called "speller" (complete with built-in context sensitive help!) which can be set up to invoke your spell checker. Here our ispell program lives in the /usr/local/pub directory, so we have speller set to: speller = /usr/local/pub/ispell Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Dave Rasmussen wrote: > I had a user ask me about using ispell with pine, so if I > setenv SPELL "ispell -x" > all I get is the syntax from ispell on how to use it. Is this a known > bug in pine 3.95 or should I be using some other options or? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:14:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA16231 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:14:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA19946 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:11:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA19942 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:11:47 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:59:47 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA10649; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:00:21 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:00:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Shivinder Singh cc: Eric Tse , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Hiding Distribution List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Finding the ulusive(?) Bcc: header... 1. Put cursor on any message header line when composing a message. 2. Look at command menu at bottom of screen. 3. Gasp in astonishment at the "^R Rich Header" item shown there. 4. Try typing ^R and be amazed at the appearance of all the available headers (including Bcc:) :-) Festive Cheers! -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Shivinder Singh wrote: > Where can one find the BCC field From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:23:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA04653 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA20045 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:21:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA20041 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:21:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXPHx-00038TC; Tue, 10 Dec 96 02:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rick Sedona Subject: Re: Question: receive message problem Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:10:14 -0800 Message-ID: <32AD3705.6E32@ziplink.net> References: <32A081C9.572E@unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit C. L. Choong wrote: > > I have one question, hope someone can help: > > I have a message need to send to 100 persons. I typed the 100 persons > e-mails address into my "nickname" (address book) . > > when I send this message to the 100 persons, they receive this > message, but the 100 persons name shown on e-mail message "to: " > session. > > my question is: How can I solve this problem? --> I don't want the > receiver see the 100 persons' names. because it is > too long and make the screen mess. > > Thank you for your help. > > -- > > C. L. Choong > ---------------------------------------- > MBA student at University of New Mexico > Albuquerque, NM, U.S. > http://www.unm.edu/~ccleong > ccleong@unm.edu > ----------------------------------------- Send the message using the BCC: (Blind Carbon Copy) choice. It will suppress all recepients names and/or email addresses. Rick -- Best Regards, Rick Sedona ------------------------------- SKYWATCH Regional Director Southern California - San Diego mailto://sedona@ziplink.net ------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:55:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA03933 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA17969 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:46:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA17965 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 02:46:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXPgL-00038TC; Tue, 10 Dec 96 02:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Vladimir A. Pertsel" Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=5BBUG=5D=3D=3FISO-8859-1=3FB=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F?= Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:11:20 +0200 Message-ID: References: <58gmlk$9uq@ammu.research.nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <58gmlk$9uq@ammu.research.nokia.com> |> Qin An (anqin@peflinux1.ie.cuhk.edu.hk) wrote: |> : When I set the character-set as ISO-8859-1, and post articles |> : to newsgroup with 8bit characters in Subject field, why PINE |> : insert the string =?ISO-8859-1? in the Subject field, and |> : turn off the high bit of each character? Is it possible to |> : disable it? Other news readers do not support this kind of |> : stuff. It is a typical problem for the Russians. They have a patch at ftp://ftp.kiae.su/unix/mail/pine3.95-rus-2b.diff.gz Those patches enable an option not to encode the 8bit header and an option not to encode the 8bit body The patched binary for x86 sun-solaris2.5 may be found at ftp://mail.sagantec.co.il/pub/i386-sun-solaris2.5/pine3.95-koi-i386-sun-solaris25.tar.gz There was also a discussion (in Russian) on the matter in the group news://relcom.fido.ru.unix under the thread name "pine, that dog, doesn't want to send Russian letters" From the Holy Land, with respect /\ /\ Vladimir A. Pertsel S/W engineer ((ovo)) E-mail: \|/ Sagantec Israel ():::() voldemar@sagantec.co.il (o o) tel.972-4-8572781 --PVA------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------ an ancestor of mine by the name of Noah was once the commanding admiral of the combined fleets of my planet. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 05:19:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA16266 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 05:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA19769 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 05:14:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA19765 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 05:14:24 -0800 From: fygrave@freenet.bishkek.su Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id SAA19120; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 18:18:49 +0600 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 18:18:49 +0600 Message-Id: <199612101218.SAA19120@freenet.bishkek.su> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-URL: mailto:pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 X-Personal_name: fyodor Subject: mailto:pine-info@cac.washington.edu subscribe fygrave@freenet.bishkek.su From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 06:12:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA11923 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 06:12:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA22789 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 06:08:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from canes.gsw.peachnet.edu (canes.GSW.PeachNet.EDU [168.18.217.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA22785 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 06:08:18 -0800 Received: (from jigang@localhost) by canes.gsw.peachnet.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA14658; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:08:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:08:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Dr. Jigang Liu" To: kasap@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <9612100145.AA24799@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Usually, you can get rid of it by exiting from the system and re-logging into the system. You can use "quota -v kasap" to check if it works. Good luck. On Mon, 9 Dec 1996 kasap@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu wrote: > X-Personal_Name: Patt Kasa > Subject: pine problem > > I keep getting the following error message: "Disc quota exceeded". There are only a few messages in any of my folders. What caused this and how can I get rid of it? > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 06:54:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA10125 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 06:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA23236 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 06:47:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA23217 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 06:46:57 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id TAA19945; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 19:45:53 +0600 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 19:45:52 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: new question.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hey I am new here,.. so I'd first intorduce myself... I am fyodor and i study C.S in Slavic Uni in Kyrgyzstan. . well, and here are two questions.. is it possible now to add PGP to Pine 3.9?.. i havbe read some older messages about it, but they weren't enough for me.. and another question: i wanna just know the mecahnism of pipe "|" woking.. anyone can explain me? and the lastone : how does pine act with shell... thank you Fyodor From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:38:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA22688 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA26883 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:33:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mufasa.wt.k12.pa.us (mufasa.wt.k12.pa.us [199.234.65.84]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA26876 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:33:28 -0800 Received: from 199.234.65.127 ([199.234.65.127]) by mufasa.wt.k12.pa.us (8.7.3/8.6.10-MT4.00) with SMTP id MAA00684; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:37:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <83E1E533.6390@city-net.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1904 19:04:35 +0100 From: "Richard L. Moore" Reply-To: hanskl@city-net.com Organization: dns.city-net.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu CC: Charles N May Subject: pine: precompiled binary for Power Mach 4.0.3? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a precompiled binary of pine for Power Mach 4.0.3? I cannot locate it on your ftp server. -Charles May From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:57:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA23244 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA25318 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:53:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu (post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA25309 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:53:36 -0800 Received: from unixs6.cis.pitt.edu (cxm2@unixs6.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.44]) by post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu with SMTP (8.8.3/cispo-2.0.1.7) ID for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:50:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:50:32 -0500 (EST) From: Charles N May X-Sender: cxm2@unixs6.cis.pitt.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine: precompiled binary for Power Mach 4.0.3? (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This message was really from me, not Billy Moore (my student)! Pleas respond to cxm2@pitt.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1904 19:04:35 +0100 From: "Richard L. Moore" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Charles N May Subject: pine: precompiled binary for Power Mach 4.0.3? Is there a precompiled binary of pine for Power Mach 4.0.3? I cannot locate it on your ftp server. -Charles May From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:13:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA11180 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA29345 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:09:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from homer.cssnps.com (homer.cssnps.com [206.30.231.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA29335 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:08:57 -0800 Received: (from mattc@localhost) by homer.cssnps.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA07968 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:14:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612101914.OAA07968@homer.cssnps.com> Subject: addressbook To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 10 Dec 96 14:14:01 EST From: Matt Coffey X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Content-Type: text HELP WANTED!! I am installing pine 3.95 on solaris unix. We have about 300 end users. The problem I am having has to do with the addressbook. It is my impression that the addressbook will allow you to assign many email address to one single name. For example I create a group called managmnt. In this group I include ten addresses all seperated by a comma in the addressbook. When I attempt to mail the group I get the following error: [Mail not sent. Sending error: 451 queuename: Cannot create "qfOAA16490] It is my initial thought that this may be a permissions issue within the system itself. Is it necessary to have any additional software to mail to groups or will pine and unix together do the job. Any help is greatly appreciated! Matt Coffey Consumer Satellite Systems From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:00:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA20326 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA05334 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:56:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from iac6.navix.net (iac6.navix.net [207.91.5.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA05330 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:56:28 -0800 Received: (from tb62719@localhost) by iac6.navix.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id QAA09980; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:56:27 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:56:26 -0600 (CST) From: Tigh Buckles Reply-To: tigh@navix.net To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello my name is tigh and I use the program pine...I can't get much help from the system cause they don't use pine that often. I want to change the from line to my alias on the system but haven't been able to figure out how to do it. I know I can put a reply to header but I still would like to put tigh@navix.net on the from category...Does the pine configuration also configure Network News or tin???? Because when I post messages on tin I want just my name to appear instead of my account which is tb62719@navix.net Any help would be appreciated!!! Thanks! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:56:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA04072 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA14691 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:49:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from beryllium.cobaltgroup.com (beryllium.cobaltgroup.com [207.149.72.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA14687 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:49:37 -0800 Received: from Stephen (D-128-95-25-68.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.25.68]) by beryllium.cobaltgroup.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA20530 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:47:15 -0800 Message-ID: <32AEE584.4E81@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:47:00 -0500 From: Stephen Suor X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: My email won't work! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My october file has somehow replaced my in file and so I get no mail, please help me!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:58:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA04044 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:58:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA12523 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:52:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from beryllium.cobaltgroup.com (beryllium.cobaltgroup.com [207.149.72.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA12519 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:52:53 -0800 Received: from Stephen (D-128-95-25-68.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.25.68]) by beryllium.cobaltgroup.com (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA20554 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:50:31 -0800 Message-ID: <32AEE649.5729@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:50:17 -0500 From: Stephen Suor X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Email is broke! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit my phone is 634-1729!!! saved october mail has some how replaced my in box I can't get mail and its finals soon I need help so help me please, thank you Steve Suor From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:23:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA05031 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:23:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA12836 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:18:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA12832 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:18:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXjpD-00038TC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 00:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: haggman@possu.research.nokia.com (Kaj Haggman) Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=5BBUG=5D=3D=3FISO-8859-1=3FB=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F?= Date: 9 Dec 1996 09:37:56 GMT Message-ID: <58gmlk$9uq@ammu.research.nokia.com> References: Qin An (anqin@peflinux1.ie.cuhk.edu.hk) wrote: : When I set the character-set as ISO-8859-1, and post articles : to newsgroup with 8bit characters in Subject field, why PINE : insert the string =?ISO-8859-1? in the Subject field, and : turn off the high bit of each character? Is it possible to : disable it? Other news readers do not support this kind of : stuff. Well, I have to admit I haven't read the nntp and related RFC's for a while, but regarding the use of mime and smtp, the "subject" field is not encoded, and thus not allowed to be anything else that 7bit. So this (the subject line in this thread) is the right way to express it. That is also why the posting was US-ASCII, since the message body was not 8bit (this was commented by someone else). Um, hope I didn't miss the whole point here, just reading very quickly through the messages... Cheers, HeGe -- Kaj Haggman P.O.Box 407 tel. +358-9-4376 6388 Nokia Research Center FIN-00045 NOKIA GROUP fax. +358-9-4376 6227 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:30:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA06237 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA16060 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:23:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA16056 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:23:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXkrO-00038UC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 01:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Wei Kang Chen" Subject: EMAIL QUESTION Date: 6 Dec 1996 05:20:53 GMT Message-ID: <01bbe335$3314e5c0$492074cf@wchen> HOW COME SOMETIMES WHEN I SEND A MESSAGE OVER THE INTERNET, VIA CCMAIL, I GET A RETURN RECEIPT, AND OTHER TIMES I DO NOT ? I ALWAYS REQUEST ONE. IS IT SOMETHING ON THE RECEIVING SIDE THAT DETERMINES WHETHER A RETURN RECEIPT CAN OCCUR ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:53:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA30083 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA14962 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:48:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA14958 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:48:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXmD6-00038VC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 02:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rachel@juno.virago.org.au (Rachel Polanskis) Subject: Pine and Reply-To: bugs? Date: 10 Dec 1996 01:16:33 GMT Message-ID: <58idlh$nhi@janis.virago.org.au> hello, There seems to be a problem with the Reply-To: header in PINE 3.95. We have seen this problem on one Solaris 2.5 two 2.5.1 and one linux 2.0.27 machines. All four machines were using sendmail 8.8.3/8.8.4 but I saw it happen on a machine that originally had sendmail 8.7.5. The problem is when someone sends mail to an acct that only exists as an alias or has a .forward file. When the ultimate recipient selects to reply to the address in the Reply-To: line, PINE seems to actually use either the original sender (FROM:) or the alias/.forward recipient (To:) This behaviour is inconsistant in that for some addresses Pine works exactly as expected... Why??? Is some thing broken somewhere or is this a feature? rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia grove@zeta.org.au http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html r.polanskis@nepean.uws.edu.au http://www.nepean.uws.edu.au/ccd/ Witty comment revoked due to funding cuts From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 04:54:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA03477 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 04:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA18856 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 04:48:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA18852 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 04:48:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXo4b-00038VC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 04:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: EMAIL QUESTION Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 08:48:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <01bbe335$3314e5c0$492074cf@wchen> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <01bbe335$3314e5c0$492074cf@wchen> On 6 Dec 1996, Wei Kang Chen wrote: > HOW COME SOMETIMES WHEN I SEND A MESSAGE OVER THE INTERNET, VIA > CCMAIL, I GET A RETURN RECEIPT, AND OTHER TIMES I DO NOT ? I > ALWAYS REQUEST ONE. IS IT SOMETHING ON THE RECEIVING SIDE THAT > DETERMINES WHETHER A RETURN RECEIPT CAN OCCUR ? Yes. The receiving system "decides" whether it will honor the request for a return receipt, depending on how the system administrator set it up. Some systems honor the request and some do not. At the present time, there is no way you can force a remote system to give you a receipt. (And in case anybody asks, no, there is no way at present to force any system to tell you that your recipient has actually opened and read your message. A few proprietary systems do this, but you cannot do it on the Internet in general.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 05:11:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA23795 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 05:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA16792 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 05:08:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA16788 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 05:08:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXoMN-00038VC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 05:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sean Allison" Subject: Pine Mail for SCO Unix Date: 11 Dec 1996 11:48:24 GMT Message-ID: <01bbe758$f3a5faa0$2d0100c0@pick5> Hi I am new to this newsgroup so please forgive me if this has already been covered. Can anyone tell me what is the latest version of Pine mail for Unix? Also is it possible to get a pre-compiled copy for use under SCO Unix - Release 5? If so where from? Any help would be much appreciated. Regards, Sean Allison seana@pickerings.co.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 05:48:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA07743 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 05:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA17197 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 05:43:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA17193 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 05:43:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXow4-00038VC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 05:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: voldemar@sagantec.co.il (Vladimir A. Pertsel) Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=5BBUG=5D=3D=3FISO-8859-1=3FB=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F?= Date: 10 Dec 1996 07:14:27 GMT Message-ID: <58j2kj$18e@news.NetVision.net.il> References: <58gmlk$9uq@ammu.research.nokia.com> |> Qin An (anqin@peflinux1.ie.cuhk.edu.hk) wrote: |> : When I set the character-set as ISO-8859-1, and post articles |> : to newsgroup with 8bit characters in Subject field, why PINE |> : insert the string =?ISO-8859-1? in the Subject field, and |> : turn off the high bit of each character? Is it possible to |> : disable it? Other news readers do not support this kind of |> : stuff. It is a typical problem for the Russians. They have a patch at ftp://ftp.kiae.su/unix/mail/pine3.95-rus-2b.diff.gz Those patches enable an option not to encode the 8bit header and an option not to encode the 8bit body The patched binary for x86 sun-solaris2.5 may be found at ftp://mail.sagantec.co.il/pub/i386-sun-solaris2.5/pine3.95-koi-i386-sun-solaris25.tar.gz There was also a discussion (in Russian) on the matter in the group news://relcom.fido.ru.unix under the thread name "pine, that dog, doesn't want to send Russian letters" -- From the Holy Land, with respect /\ /\ Vladimir A. Pertsel S/W engineer ((ovo)) E-mail: \|/ Sagantec Israel ():::() voldemar@sagantec.co.il (o o) tel.972-4-8572781 --PVA------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------ an ancestor of mine by the name of Noah was once the commanding admiral of the combined fleets of my planet. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 05:50:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA28999 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 05:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA19474 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 05:43:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA19470 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 05:43:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXovh-00038TC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 05:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sharding@owl.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding) Subject: pine dource for MkLinux Date: 10 Dec 1996 03:46:51 GMT Message-ID: <58imfb$9ev@pith.uoregon.edu> Hi there. I am running MkLinux on a PowerMac and I haven't been able to find a suitable pine that will compile. The only Linux Pine I see anywhere is the i386 binary, which will not work for me since I have a PowerPC chip. Any pointers? sean ------- "I recognize the walls inside; I recognize them all. I've paced between them chasing demons down until they fall in fitful sleep, enough to keep their strength enough to crawl, into my head with tangled threads they riddle me to solve. Again & again & again." --Natalie Merchant "I May Know the Word" Sean Harding, sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sharding From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:02:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA04570 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:02:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA20484 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 06:58:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA20480 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 06:58:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXq6o-00038TC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 06:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nicolas Moulin_Fournier Subject: problem of compilation of the 3.95 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:24:09 +0100 Message-ID: <32ADE309.287C@supaero.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just compiled the latest version of pine 3.95, just coming from ftp cac.washington but the mouse stay unrecognised where the version 3.94 was running well I work on HP serie 9000 Please help if it is a known bug -- /| ) ' _ / _ _ / |/ / ( () ( (/ _) (E-mail : Nicolas.Moulin_Fournier@supaero.fr or moulin@supaero.fr) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:06:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA08371 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA18209 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 06:59:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs3.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (rs3.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.100.214]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA18205 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 06:59:25 -0800 Received: by rs3.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE id AA18371 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:58:22 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:58:21 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Bialasinski To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: "New mail..." message and filter Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi, I have just installed mail filtering via filter and it works fine. =20 There is just one problem: =20 when I recieve a mail into the main inbox, I get a message "New Mail...". When a mail gets filtered and therefor gets into a additional inbox, I don't get this message. I can however scan for new mails using the tab-key, but that's not the same. =20 Anyone a clue ? =20 Ciao, Martin *** Please Reply via email, as I am not subscribed to the list *** -- _____________________________________________________________ =20 / \=20 > stud. rer. pol. ------- Wirtschaftskapit=E4n < =20 > Universit=E4t zu K=F6ln / university of cologne < \_____________________________________________________________/ =20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:47:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA09191 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:47:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA21116 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:38:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zeus.netset.com (zeus.netset.com [205.133.220.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA21112 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:37:57 -0800 Received: from 192.153.31.15.capital.edu ([205.133.186.16]) by zeus.netset.com (8.8.4/NetSet-v.1.6+) with SMTP id KAA24677 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:37:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32AED5ED.DA3@csg.capital.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:40:29 -0500 From: "Thomas W. Tappan" Organization: Columbus School for Girls X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine upgrade and machine transfer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are in the process of moving our mail server from a linux system running Pine 3.91 to a Solaris x86 2.5.1 system running Pine 3.95. We will tar and ftp the users home directories and the mail directory over to the new machine. I notice that the .pinerc file is substantially larger on the Pine 3.95 system. If we do a straight tar and ftp the .pinerc file from the 3.91 version will be moved over. Will this cause a serious problem? If so how should I handle it. We have approximately 400 user accounts on the system. Thomas W. Tappan Columbus School for Girls From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:26:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA10313 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA21961 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:16:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccucs.coastal.edu (CCUCS.COASTAL.EDU [199.120.21.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA21951 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:15:55 -0800 Received: from csd1.coastal.edu by ccucs.coastal.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/20Jul95-0200PM) id AA02632; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:16:03 -0500 Received: from CSD1/SpoolDir by coastal.edu (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 11 Dec 96 11:15:49 GMT+5 Received: from SpoolDir by CSD1 (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 11 Dec 96 11:15:21 GMT+5 From: "Dan Lawless" Organization: Coastal Carolina University To: alpha-osf-managers@ornl.gov, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:15:20 EST Subject: Ctrl-x problem with Pine mailer Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-Id: <72869417C6@coastal.edu> On our Alpha 3000/500 (DU 4.0) we have Pine 3.91. All functionality in Pine works fine on the server. However, when sessions connect through our Decserver 90M terminal server we lose the functionality of Ctrl-X and Ctrl-O (Vital commands in Pine). I've tested the Windows 3.1 terminal session parameters to no avail. From scanning pine mail archives it appears that the terminal server is the culprit. It apparently uses those key combinations for other operations and filters them out before the transmission reaches the server. Has anyone else experienced this on their systems? If so, do you know what commands we can give the terminal server to let that traffic through? Or, any other workarounds? Thanks in advance. dan@coastal.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:33:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA10465 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:33:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA22333 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:29:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA22329 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:29:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXrTw-00038VC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 08:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Richelle Subject: Remote (IMAP) folder in Folder List Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:41:47 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi, I can't find a way to specify a remote folder (accessed through IMAP) so that it will appear in the "Folder List" window. Is such a thing possible ? Jean ___________________________________________________________________________= __ Jean Richelle Unit=E9 de Conformation des Macromol=E9cules Biologiques Tel: 32-2-650= 35 87 Universit=E9 libre de Bruxelles FAX: 32-2-648 8= 9 54 av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium ___________________________________________________________________________= __ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:35:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA09646 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:35:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA19741 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:29:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA19735 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:29:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXrTv-00038TC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 08:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fleet@cbl.cees.edu (Fleet Teachout) Subject: External Address list? Date: 10 Dec 1996 12:11:35 GMT Message-ID: <58jk1o$qtg@gamera.cbl.cees.edu> Is it possible to get Pine to use a file containing e-mail addresses as an 'address list?' I operate a small 'classifieds' web area and like to send reminders to the advertisers to let me know when they no longer need an ad (the ads are free and there is no time limit). I can grep the "mailto:" address and put the addresses into a file, but I can't seem to find a way to get Pine to use it. (On reflection, maybe I should pose this question in a 'spammers' newsgroup :-) ). - fleet - fleet@cbl.cees.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:32:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA03777 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA21324 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:24:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA21314 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:24:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXsL5-00038TC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 09:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurry@imap2.asu.edu Subject: Re: "New Mail" message and filter Date: 11 Dec 1996 17:20:21 GMT Message-ID: <58mqgl$pbj@news.asu.edu> References: <58mga6$sma@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de> On 11 Dec 1996 14:26:14 GMT, Martin Bialasinski (agr30@rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE) wrote: > Hi, > I have just installed mail filtering via filter and it works fine. > There is just one problem: > when I recieve a mail into the main inbox, I get a message "New Mail...". > When a mail gets filtered and therefor gets into a additional inbox, I > don't get this message. I can however scan for new mails using the > tab-key, but that's not the same. Pine is not able to constantly monitor mail outside of your main INBOX. Thus, you are forced to use the tab key. -- Adam Myrow From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:50:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA05397 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:50:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA25937 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:44:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cronus.bentley.edu (cronus.bentley.edu [141.133.112.25]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA25932 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:44:48 -0800 Received: from bentley.edu by bentley.edu (PMDF V5.0-4 #11752) id <01ICVWJUN2WG8YB4DN@bentley.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:48:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:48:04 -0400 (EDT) From: DOWNEY_S@bentley.edu Subject: listserv group for soundgarden To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: <01ICVWJUN6OI8YB4DN@bentley.edu> X-VMS-To: IN%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT i am looking for a listserv group for the band soundgarden. please return this mail and let me know if you can help. --steve downey-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:08:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA11980 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA26606 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:04:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA26602 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:04:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXtvK-00038TC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 11:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rnortman@huitzilo.tezcat.com (Randall C. Nortman) Subject: Pine support for DSN? (Delivery Status Notification) Date: 11 Dec 1996 19:00:00 GMT Message-ID: Is there a way to get Pine (I'm using 3.95) to use DSN (Delivery Status Notification) if the MTA supports it? FYI: DSN provides a way for the sender of a message to be notified upon successful, failed, and/or delayed delivery of the message. Note that this is for delivery (the message was placed in the users mail spool), not receipt (the user's MUA received the message). It's part of RFC 1891 (Jan 1996), "SMTP Service Extension for Delivery Status Notifications." Related RFC's are 1892 and 1894. It replaces the Return-Receipt-To header, which was never standard AFAIK. TIA -- Randall Nortman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:04:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA13602 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:04:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA28009 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:59:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from megahertz.njit.edu (megahertz.njit.edu [128.235.251.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA28004 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:59:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (tla2390@localhost) by megahertz.njit.edu (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA05100 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:58:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:58:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Tomlee L. Abraham, the typing tornado!" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sending error 452 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. What does sending error 452 mean? Tomlee L. Abraham ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tomlee L. Abraham (aka "The Typing Tornado!") E-mail addresses: Primary: tla2390@megahertz.njit.edu Secondary: TornadoTLA@msn.com ***I will not be forwarding junk mail anymore. (At least 90% of the time.) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:05:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA15498 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA25620 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:59:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA25614 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:59:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXunQ-00038ZC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 11:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "William C Bonner" Subject: Feature request for future. Message-ID: <01bbe79c$782bc730$828c60cc@ambra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BBE76A.2D946470" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:51:40 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE76A.2D946470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Netscape adds a "References:" header in a reply message. It references the message ID of the message that is being replied to. I was wondering if this was a semi-standard header? Is there is any way to enable it in the current version of pine? Is there a reason that it is not going to be used at some time? (Netscape has been known to do things wrong in the past) etc... I like the way Netscape will thread messages that have the references header, but I seem to do half of my mail work in pine. Wim. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE76A.2D946470 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Netscape adds a "References:" = header in a reply message.  It references the message ID of the = message that is being replied to.  

I was wondering if this = was a semi-standard header? Is there is any way to enable it in the = current version of pine? Is there a reason that it is not going to be = used at some time?  (Netscape has been known to do things wrong in = the past)  etc...

I like the way Netscape will thread = messages that have the references header, but I seem to do half of my = mail work in pine.

Wim.

------=_NextPart_000_01BBE76A.2D946470-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:10:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA03545 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA29645 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:04:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA29628 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:04:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXvlP-00038WC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 13:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: invest@goldbergservices.com Subject: $$$$ $50,000 for the New Year $$$$ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:55:34 PST Message-ID: <58n75i$f2l@hil-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> $$$$ $50,000 for the New Year $$$$ Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life. The Internet has grown tremendously. It doubles in size every 4 months. think about it. You see those 'Make.Money.Fast' posts more and more. That's ... because it WORKS ! So I thought, all those new users might make it work. And I decided to try it out, a few months ago. Besides, whats $5.00, I spend more than that in the morning on my way to work on coffee and cigs for the day. So I sent in my money and posted.Everyone was calling it a scam, but there are SO many new users from AOL, Netcom, etc. they will join in and make it work for you. Well, two weeks later, I began recieving bucks in the mail! I couldn't believe it! Not just a little, I mean big bucks! At first only a few hundred dollars, then a week later, a couple of thousand, then BOOM. By the end of the fourth week, I had recieved nearly $47,000.00. It came from all over the world. And every bit of it perfectly legal and on the up and up. I've been able to pay off all my bills and still had enough left over for a nice vacation for me and my family. Not only does it work for me, it works for other folks as well. Markus Valppu says he made $57,883 in four weeks. Dave Manning claims he made $53,664 in the same amount of time. Dan Shepstone says it was only $17,000 for him. Do I know these folks? No, but when I read how they say they did it, it made sense to me. Enough sense that I'm taking a similar chance with $5 of my own bucks. Not a big chance, I admit--but one with incredible potential, because $5 is all anyone ever invests in this system. Period. That's all Markus, Dave, or Dan invested, yet their $5 netted them tens of thousands of dollars each, in a safe, legal, completely legitimate way. Here's how it works in 3 easy steps: STEP 1. Invest your $5 by writing your name and address on five seperate pieces of paper along with the words: "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST." (In this way, you're not just sending a dollar to someone; you're paying for a legitimate service.) Fold a $1 bill inside each paper, and mail them by standard U. S. Mail to the following five addresses: 1-Aaron McDaniel 2014 Powell Dr. ElCajon, Ca 92020 2-Faroon Khan 12343 77A Avenue Surrey, BC V3W2W9 3-Hoffman Eric 3150 Riviere-Cachee Boisbriand, PQ Canada J7H 1A3 4-Stuart Koch Connolly Hall Box C115 501 E. St. Joseph Rapid City, SD 57701-3995 5-Karen Lundgren 3889 Kencrest Ave. Halifax, NS Canada B3K 3L4 STEP 2. Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other names up.This way, #5 becomes #4 and so on. Put your name in as the fifth one on the list. STEP 3. Post the article to at least 250 newsgroups. There are at least 19000 newsgroups at any given moment in time. Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can. Remember the more groups you post to, the more people will see your article and send you cash! STEP 4. You are now in business for yourself, and should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days! Remember, the Internet is new and huge. There is no way you can lose. Now here is how and why this system works: Out of every block of 250 posts I made, I got back 5 responses. Yes, thats right,only 5. You make $5.00 in cash, not checks or money orders, but real cash with your name at #5. Each additional person who sent you $1.00 now also makes 250 additional postings with your name at #4, 1000 postings. On average then, 50 people will send you $1.00 with your name at #4,....$50.00 in your pocket! Now these 50 new people will make 250 postings each with your name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average return, 500 people= $500. They make 250 postings each with your name at #2= 100,000 postings=5000 returns at $1.00 each=$5,000.00 in cash! Finally, 5,000 people make 250 postings each with your name at #1 and you get a return of $60,000 before your name drops off the list.And that's only if everyone down the line makes only 250 postings each! Your total income for this one cycle is $55,000. From time to time when you see your name is no longer on the list, you take the latest posting you can find and start all over again. The end result depends on you. You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of. The more postings you make, the more cash ends up in your mailbox. It's too easy and too cheap to pass up!!! So thats it. Pretty simple sounding stuff, huh? But believe me, it works. There are millions of people surfing the net every day, all day, all over the world. And 100,000 new people get on the net every day. You know that, you've seen the stories in the paper. So, my friend, read and follow the simple instructions and play fair. Thats the key, and thats all there is to it. Print this out right now so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep an eye on all the postings you made to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should be. If you're really not sure or still think this can't be for real, then don't do it. But please print this article and pass it along to someone you know who really needs the bucks, and see what happens. REMEMBER....HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE THE BUCKS! GOOD LUCK TO ALL, AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND YOU WILL WIN AND MAKE SOME REAL INSTANT FREE CASH! *** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the bucks to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent the 5 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10,000! TRY IT AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY!!! :o) !!!!!!!!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:52:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA21537 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA29979 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:48:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nargun.cc.uq.oz.au (nargun.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.119]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA29972 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:48:44 -0800 Received: from dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (root@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.14]) by nargun.cc.uq.oz.au (8.8.4/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA14064 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 08:48:41 +1000 (GMT+1000) Received: from localhost (zzhines@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (8.8.4/8.8.3) with SMTP id IAA20391 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 08:48:40 +1000 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 08:48:34 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Michael Hines X-Sender: zzhines@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII help From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:33:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA07936 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA04805 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:30:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA04801 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:30:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXz1w-00038WC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 16:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dan@beach.net (Dan Busarow) Subject: Re: Approval Header for Moderated Newsgroup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:32:15 GMT In article , Shohreh Bozorgmehri writes: > How the approval header can be added to a mail message (for a moderated > newsgroup using PINE). I appreciate any help anyone can provide. I just set the prYnt command to pipe the message to approve.pl You need to turn on full headers before prYnting for this to work. Since the user we have moderating a group is decidedly non-technical I hacked a copy of pine to always run in full header mode for him. Dan -- Dan Busarow DPC Systems / BeachNet Dana Point, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:33:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA23721 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA02493 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:30:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA02486 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:30:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vXyzV-00038VC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 16:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pete@cloud9.net (Peter Leftwich) Subject: Re: Quick question Date: 9 Dec 1996 19:35:32 -0500 Message-ID: <58ib8k$kjb@cloud9.net> References: Shawn Bishop (bishop@monty.phys.UVic.CA) wrote: I think this has more to do with your University's (or ISP's) sendmail program settings, and what timeouts they have specified. For more info, type "man sendmail" - or email your sysadmins :) : Hi there: : : This isn't so much a suggestion is it is a very quick question. : : I was just curious as to how often PINE 3.94 cycles in its attempts to : resend email that is initially unable to reach it's destination. Every : hour, every 2 hours....?? : : Thanks. : : ************************************************************************ : * Shawn Bishop, B.Sc. "May you have the strength of Eagles' * : * wings, the faith and courage to fly * : * University of Victoria to new heights, and the wisdom of * : * Department of Physics, universe to carry you there." * : * P.O. Box 3055, * : * Victoria, B.C. * : * V8W 3P6 "No bird soars so high as that with * : * his own wings." * : * * : * Work Phone: Office (250) 721-7732 * : * Lab (250) 721-8336 * : ************************************************************************ : : From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:49:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA24302 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA04182 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:45:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA04178 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:45:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vY0Cy-00038VC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 17:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chet Lad Subject: Config file problem Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:31:29 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using PINE 3.95 for UNIX. Whenever I try to edit my configuration, it says: [Config file not editable, can't change options or settings] What the name of the config file and where does it reside? Thanks Chet clad@atitech.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:52:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA10872 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA04275 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:49:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gw.wmich.edu (gw.wmich.edu [141.218.1.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA04271 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:49:36 -0800 Received: from eeyore.cc.wmich.edu (PMDF_BATCH@eeyore.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.103]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA02190 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:49:35 -0500 Received: from wmich.edu by wmich.edu (PMDF V5.0-6 #5064) id <01ICWBAVOG6891W5X4@wmich.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:49:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:49:35 -0500 (EST) From: 31battah@wmich.edu Subject: Where is bcc? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Is there a blind carbon copy function in pine 3.91? If so, where is it and how is it used? Thanks, Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:59:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA22882 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA06732 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:57:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from howard.paciolan.com ([165.113.222.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA06728 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:57:09 -0800 Received: by howard.paciolan.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA46358; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:57:56 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:57:56 -0800 (PST) From: Shivinder Singh To: 31battah@wmich.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Where is bcc? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Press the ^R for rich headers. **************************************************************************** Shivinder Singh |"Time they say is the cure for all worries Paciolan Systems |and pain, the worry is that, Time is in ssingh@paciolan.com |fact the cause..." /sh/ ***************************************************************************** On Wed, 11 Dec 1996 31battah@wmich.edu wrote: > > Is there a blind carbon copy function in pine 3.91? > If so, where is it and how is it used? > > Thanks, > Brian > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:08:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA24153 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:08:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA04546 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:04:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dc.isx.com (mole.dc.isx.com [205.138.218.44]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA04542 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:04:53 -0800 Received: from jtfweb18 (jtfweb18.nosc.mil) by dc.isx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02367; Wed, 11 Dec 96 21:04:45 EST Message-Id: <32AF682C.790B@dc.isx.com> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 21:04:28 -0500 From: Murtaza Kamal Organization: ISX Corp X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsbscribe References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe mkamal@dc.isx.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:08:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA25054 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:08:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA04621 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:05:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dc.isx.com (mole.dc.isx.com [205.138.218.44]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA04612 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:05:22 -0800 Received: from jtfweb18 (jtfweb18.nosc.mil) by dc.isx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02378; Wed, 11 Dec 96 21:05:16 EST Message-Id: <32AF684B.3031@dc.isx.com> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 21:04:59 -0500 From: Murtaza Kamal Organization: ISX Corp X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsbscribe References: <32AF682C.790B@dc.isx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe mkamal@isx.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:02:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA25592 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:02:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA07726 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:00:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA07722 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:00:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vY1N0-00038VC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 18:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dan@beach.net (Dan Busarow) Subject: Re: anti-relay (check_rcpt) and pine no good? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:16:48 GMT In article , loki@world.std.com (Greg Mortensen) writes: > Has anyone tried the anti-gateway (ie. check_rcpt) ruleset (from > http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~ca/email/check.html) with the Pine > mailer? I have those rules installed and use Pine. Works just fine. However, Pine lets user configure their domain name for the From: line. I doubt they would all set it to something goofy, but maybe your rules like user, user@localhost, user@host and user@host.domain but do not like user@domain. Take a look in your syslog, the bounces get recorded there so you should be able to see what the rule doesn't like. Dan -- Dan Busarow DPC Systems / BeachNet Dana Point, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:53:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA25278 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:53:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA06151 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:50:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA06147 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:50:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vY27q-00038VC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 19:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfreeman@interaccess.com (Richard E. Freeman) Subject: Re: Hiding Distribution List Date: 4 Dec 1996 07:50:33 GMT Message-ID: <583ag9$4o8@nntp.interaccess.com> References: <32a3eff6.17597403@news.hku.hk> Jackie Mak (h9515668@hkusua.hku.hk) wrote: : How can I hide the distribution list on To: field? : My list has over 300 addresses. : I use pine 3.91 and 3.93. : Please email me directly. : : : Regards, : Jackie : : My web site: http://hkusub.hku.hk:8000/~h9515668 -- Use BCC: (Blind Carbon Copy) instead of To: (Do a Ctrl. R while in the header to get at the BCC: field) Rich Freeman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:14:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA14554 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA08684 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:11:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nicnet.nic.in (nicnet.nic.in [164.100.3.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA08680 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:11:05 -0800 Received: from hub.nic.in by nicnet.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA26537; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:44:15 +0530 Received: from localhost by hub.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA11182; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:38:20 +0530 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:38:19 +0530 (IST) From: "0000-Admin(0000)" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE OVER SCO-XENIX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is Pine available under SCO-XENIX.Most of our users in India at remote centres are still working over SCO-XENIX.What kind of mail interface solution can we give them .Is ver urgent, so please respond at the earliest... regards, seema From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:53:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA26067 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA09148 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:50:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA09144 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:50:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vY342-00038WC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 20:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: imapd/pine3.94/file perms Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:35:27 -0800 Message-ID: References: <58ksu0$s1v@news3.texas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <58ksu0$s1v@news3.texas.net> On 10 Dec 1996, Michael Douglass wrote: > Okay, I need imapd to set the perms on the mail boxes to 660, not 600... > I'm tired of trying to decode the source; anyone know how to do this--is > there a FAQ? Anything?? If you want to do this as a systemwide default, the easiest way is to edit env_unix.c and change the value of mbx_protection. At least this is what you do in the latest imap-4.1 toolkit. Pine 3.94 is very old, and probably uses imap-3.5. It looks like mbx_protection is in dummy.c instead of env_unix.c in that old version. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 23:11:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA20996 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 23:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA11025 for pine-info-out; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 23:08:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA11021 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 1996 23:08:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vY5BC-00038WC; Wed, 11 Dec 96 23:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine support for DSN? (Delivery Status Notification) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 21:06:01 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 11 Dec 1996, Randall C. Nortman wrote: > Is there a way to get Pine (I'm using 3.95) to use DSN (Delivery > Status Notification) if the MTA supports it? I expect that Pine 4.00 will support DSN. I just wrote the c-client support for it earlier this week, and I believe that my colleagues are working on the user interface portion. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:06:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA18526 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA09467 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:03:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA09462 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:03:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vY644-00038VC; Thu, 12 Dec 96 00:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rnortman@huitzilo.tezcat.com (Randall C. Nortman) Subject: Re: Pine support for DSN? (Delivery Status Notification) Date: 12 Dec 1996 05:45:33 GMT Message-ID: References: In article , Mark Crispin wrote: [...] >I expect that Pine 4.00 will support DSN. [...] No rush, of course, but when will 4.00 be out? (Just curiosity; I understand that things like this generally "take as long as they take") (Nice work with Pine in general, BTW. Great work, actually.) TIA -- Randall Nortman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:06:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA28157 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:06:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA11670 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:03:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA11666 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:03:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vY64A-00038WC; Thu, 12 Dec 96 00:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gary Subject: Re: pine problem Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 13:49:55 +0800 Message-ID: References: <9612100145.AA24799@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9612100145.AA24799@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu> > I keep getting the following error message: "Disc quota exceeded". There are only a few messages in any of my folders. What caused this and how can I get rid of it? you can try going to your mail prompt and type "compress". ie: MAIL>compress After that, delete a file called MAIL.OLD in your directory. what this does is that it frees up the space occupied by deleted messages... It worked for me...:) See my mails on "disk quota problem" Gary From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 01:23:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA12669 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 01:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA10439 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 01:20:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA10429 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 01:19:57 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id OAA06962; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:25:00 +0600 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:24:59 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Mail for SCO Unix In-Reply-To: <01bbe758$f3a5faa0$2d0100c0@pick5> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Dec 1996, Sean Allison wrote: > I am new to this newsgroup so please forgive me if this has already been > covered. Can anyone tell me what is the latest version of Pine mail for > Unix? well, i suppose 3.91.. if anyone knows newer? -X----- Fyodor --- fygrave@freenet.bishkek.su --------------------------X-- "With heart and hand I pledge you while I load my gun again, you will never be fogotten or the enemy forgiven, my good comrade..." - Anton Szandor LaVay -X--http://www.freenet.bishkek.su/fygrave.html---tel:(3312)474465-------X-- -X--http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8302-mirror-at-geocities-X-- pgp is awaliable from pgp-key-servers : pub 2048/3D22AF59 1980/03/24 Fyodor Yarochkin Key fingerprint = 1F 38 55 07 98 F9 42 7D 57 73 74 FA 9C 5B 29 FB "As Above, So Below. The Macrocosm, the Microcosm. The Entire Universe is Contained In The Human Creature" To The Fallen Angels From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 01:25:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA28188 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 01:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA10459 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 01:22:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA10455 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 01:21:35 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id OAA06989; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:26:20 +0600 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:26:20 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, "Vladimir A. Pertsel" Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=5BBUG=5D=3D=3FISO-8859-1=3FB=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F?= In-Reply-To: <58j2kj$18e@news.NetVision.net.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Dec 1996, Vladimir A. Pertsel wrote: > There was also a discussion (in Russian) on the matter in the group > news://relcom.fido.ru.unix under the thread name > "pine, that dog, doesn't want to send Russian letters" yeah..:) That' was a big surprise for me..:) it doesn't want to put russian subject and whatever..:) -X----- Fyodor --- fygrave@freenet.bishkek.su --------------------------X-- "With heart and hand I pledge you while I load my gun again, you will never be fogotten or the enemy forgiven, my good comrade..." - Anton Szandor LaVay -X--http://www.freenet.bishkek.su/fygrave.html---tel:(3312)474465-------X-- -X--http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8302-mirror-at-geocities-X-- pgp is awaliable from pgp-key-servers : pub 2048/3D22AF59 1980/03/24 Fyodor Yarochkin Key fingerprint = 1F 38 55 07 98 F9 42 7D 57 73 74 FA 9C 5B 29 FB "As Above, So Below. The Macrocosm, the Microcosm. The Entire Universe is Contained In The Human Creature" To The Fallen Angels From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:07:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA29349 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:07:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA10907 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:03:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA10903 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:03:43 -0800 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 12 Dec 96 18:02:30 +0800 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:02:29 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Fyodor Yarochkin cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Mail for SCO Unix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Fyodor Yarochkin wrote: > On 11 Dec 1996, Sean Allison wrote: > > I am new to this newsgroup so please forgive me if this has already been > > covered. Can anyone tell me what is the latest version of Pine mail for > > Unix? > well, i suppose 3.91.. if anyone knows newer? > Yep, 3.95. And problems related to MIME encoding in the Subject has been fixed at that release... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:10:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA28239 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA13057 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:06:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA13050 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:06:29 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id PAA07488; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:11:48 +0600 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:11:48 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII By the way anyone knows how to Get "Strong" text in pine? I have seen some dudes where sending their messages where some lines were strong or whatever.. but i can find it out myself -X----- Fyodor --- fygrave@freenet.bishkek.su --------------------------X-- "With heart and hand I pledge you while I load my gun again, you will never be fogotten or the enemy forgiven, my good comrade..." - Anton Szandor LaVay -X--http://www.freenet.bishkek.su/fygrave.html---tel:(3312)474465-------X-- -X--http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8302-mirror-at-geocities-X-- pgp is awaliable from pgp-key-servers : pub 2048/3D22AF59 1980/03/24 Fyodor Yarochkin Key fingerprint = 1F 38 55 07 98 F9 42 7D 57 73 74 FA 9C 5B 29 FB "As Above, So Below. The Macrocosm, the Microcosm. The Entire Universe is Contained In The Human Creature" To The Fallen Angels From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:18:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA28560 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA13151 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:14:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA13140 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:14:05 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id PAA07563; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:18:31 +0600 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:18:31 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Configurate NewSGroups.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyonce can help me to configurate Pine Using NewsGroups geee From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:32:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA28274 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:32:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA11151 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:29:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA11147 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:29:18 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id PAA07731; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:33:17 +0600 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:33:16 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: Chet Lad cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Config file problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII maybe your Sysadm closed prms for that or fixed it? > > I'm using PINE 3.95 for UNIX. Whenever I try to edit my configuration, it > says: > > [Config file not editable, can't change options or settings] > > What the name of the config file and where does it reside? > > > Thanks > > Chet > clad@atitech.ca > -X----- Fyodor --- fygrave@freenet.bishkek.su --------------------------X-- "With heart and hand I pledge you while I load my gun again, you will never be fogotten or the enemy forgiven, my good comrade..." - Anton Szandor LaVay -X--http://www.freenet.bishkek.su/fygrave.html---tel:(3312)474465-------X-- -X--http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8302-mirror-at-geocities-X-- pgp is awaliable from pgp-key-servers : pub 2048/3D22AF59 1980/03/24 Fyodor Yarochkin Key fingerprint = 1F 38 55 07 98 F9 42 7D 57 73 74 FA 9C 5B 29 FB "As Above, So Below. The Macrocosm, the Microcosm. The Entire Universe is Contained In The Human Creature" To The Fallen Angels From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:34:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA29178 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA13324 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:31:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA13314 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:31:19 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id PAA07748; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:34:33 +0600 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:34:33 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: 31battah@wmich.edu cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Where is bcc? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Is there a blind carbon copy function in pine 3.91? > If so, where is it and how is it used? yes.. you can get "extended" header like this To : 31battah@wmich.edu Cc : pine-info@cac.washington.edu Bcc : Newsgrps: Fcc : sent-mail Attchmnt: Subject : Re: Where is bcc? ----- Message Text ----- pressing ^R in header... -X----- Fyodor --- fygrave@freenet.bishkek.su --------------------------X-- "With heart and hand I pledge you while I load my gun again, you will never be fogotten or the enemy forgiven, my good comrade..." - Anton Szandor LaVay -X--http://www.freenet.bishkek.su/fygrave.html---tel:(3312)474465-------X-- -X--http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8302-mirror-at-geocities-X-- pgp is awaliable from pgp-key-servers : pub 2048/3D22AF59 1980/03/24 Fyodor Yarochkin Key fingerprint = 1F 38 55 07 98 F9 42 7D 57 73 74 FA 9C 5B 29 FB "As Above, So Below. The Macrocosm, the Microcosm. The Entire Universe is Contained In The Human Creature" To The Fallen Angels From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:34:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA29210 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA13338 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:32:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA13326 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:32:09 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id PAA07810; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:36:32 +0600 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:36:32 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: "0000-Admin(0000)" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE OVER SCO-XENIX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Is Pine available under SCO-XENIX.Most of our users in India at remote > centres are still working over SCO-XENIX.What kind of mail interface > solution can we give them .Is ver urgent, so please respond at the > earliest... i guess you can compile sourse code using make or something... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:37:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA28150 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA11224 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:35:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA11206 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:34:25 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id PAA07846; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:39:38 +0600 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:39:36 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hey.. is there any possiblities to fix rich header alwayz while icompose message ( so i won't have to press ^r everytime) and another thing, is it possible to fix Fcc: if i don't want to copy ever my message to sent-mail? regards fyoodr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:02:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA29402 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:02:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA12135 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 03:59:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA12131 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 03:59:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vY9io-00038VC; Thu, 12 Dec 96 03:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcheney@lexis.pop.upenn.edu (Timothy P. Cheney) Subject: Re: display Application/POSTSCRIPT Date: 9 Dec 1996 17:08:10 GMT Message-ID: <58hh1q$363@netnews.upenn.edu> References: Yvan Guillemain (yvan@erv.ericsson.se) wrote: : Hello, : Is it possible to set some configuration in pine which enable me to : display a "Application/POSTSCRIPT" attachement with a chosen command : (PS viewer) : \yvan Use .mailcap in your home directory for your personal configurations and /etc/mailcap for system-wide config. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | tcheney@pop.upenn.edu | | Timothy P. Cheney (215) 898-3197 | | Population Studies Center | | 219 McNeil/6298 | | University of Pennsylvania | | Philadelphia, PA 19104 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:50:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA27512 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:50:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA12881 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:48:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA12871 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:47:55 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id RAA09935; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:52:33 +0600 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:52:32 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: "Timothy P. Cheney" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: .mailcap In-Reply-To: <58hh1q$363@netnews.upenn.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Use .mailcap in your home directory for your personal configurations and /etc/mailcap > for system-wide config. hey.. I just searched MailCap file in my sistem and didn't find it, and i didn't find any .mailcap files in my home directory as well, is there any other config files? just wonder? fyodor From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:51:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA23826 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:51:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA15025 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:47:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA15021 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:47:54 -0800 Received: from thiru.vetri.com by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA20305; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:47:41 -0800 Received: from kajal.thiru.vetri.com by thiru.vetri.com (4.1/(SYL)SMI-4.1) id AA22394; Thu, 12 Dec 96 18:10:53 EST Received: by kajal.thiru.vetri.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11920; Thu, 12 Dec 96 18:16:31-050 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:16:31 -0500 (GMT-0500) From: Vemmuri Ramakrishna Subject: Need Help To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I got mails with following attachements 1)BinHEx 2)IPM NOTE 3)++lotusscripts 4)Octet How can I convert these mails. V.SaiRamakrishna +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Vetri Software(India) Ltd +Telephone:(044) 8273452,82706665 + 3rd Floor ,Thiru Building + 160,Greams Road + Madras-60006 + +E-Mail:uramve01@kajal.thiru.vetri.com + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:53:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA17868 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:53:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA15055 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:50:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA15051 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:50:37 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id RAA09972; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:55:53 +0600 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:55:52 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: RTF Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII anyone knows how to USE RTF format with pine? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:40:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA30621 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:40:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA15603 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:37:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA15599 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:37:08 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id RAA09935; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:52:33 +0600 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:52:32 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: "Timothy P. Cheney" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: .mailcap In-Reply-To: <58hh1q$363@netnews.upenn.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Use .mailcap in your home directory for your personal configurations and /etc/mailcap > for system-wide config. hey.. I just searched MailCap file in my sistem and didn't find it, and i didn't find any .mailcap files in my home directory as well, is there any other config files? just wonder? fyodor From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:42:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA12702 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:42:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA13487 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:40:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from commedia.smsu.edu (commedia.smsu.edu [146.7.105.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA13483 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:40:05 -0800 Received: (from wicks@localhost) by commedia.smsu.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) id HAA02218 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:46:49 -0600 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:46:49 -0600 From: "Randolph L. Wicks Jr." Message-Id: <199612121346.HAA02218@commedia.smsu.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine versions 3.90 and higher and MkLinux Here is the current situation we are dealing with: Everytime you attempt to run pine, it will say Mailbox is open by another process, access is read-only Reading through all the FAQs and prior messages about this type of problem all point at another instance of pine running. Well, this is after a clean boot... and ps -aux reveals no copy of pine running. Checking /var/spool/mail reveals nothing. No lock files or anything. However, we do notice that /tmp now has a file .803.307 What is happening? We have removed this file, and everytime we run pine this little file pops up. If anyone can provide assistance, we would appreciate it. By the way, it does this for every version of pine that we were able to compile on MkLinux DR-2. ---- Randolph L. Wicks Jr. Lab Administrator and System Administrator for The Communication and Mass Media Dept. at Southwest Missouri State University From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:58:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA31309 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA13620 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:53:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA13616 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 05:53:47 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:34/EUnetD-2.6.1.f) via EUnet id OAA27265; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:53:41 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id OAA22701; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:51:58 +0100 From: kompf@ife-le.de Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:47:03 +0100 (MET) To: Fyodor Yarochkin cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: .mailcap In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Fyodor Yarochkin wrote: -> > -> > Use .mailcap in your home directory for your personal configurations and /etc/mailcap -> > for system-wide config. -> hey.. I just searched MailCap file in my sistem and didn't find it, and i -> didn't find any .mailcap files in my home directory as well, is there -> any other config files? -> just wonder? -> -> -> fyodor -> I found the wanted file as /doc/mailcap.unx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 06:44:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA07884 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 06:44:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA14242 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 06:41:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccucs.coastal.edu (CCUCS.COASTAL.EDU [199.120.21.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA14238 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 06:41:43 -0800 Received: from csd1.coastal.edu by ccucs.coastal.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/20Jul95-0200PM) id AA09140; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:42:18 -0500 Received: from CSD1/SpoolDir by coastal.edu (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 12 Dec 96 9:42:01 GMT+5 Received: from SpoolDir by CSD1 (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 12 Dec 96 9:41:48 GMT+5 From: "Dan Lawless" Organization: Coastal Carolina University To: alpha-osf-managers@ornl.gov, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:41:45 EST Subject: (SUMMARY) Ctrl-x problem with Pine mailer Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-Id: <88F8564F92@coastal.edu> First, thanks to the following for their quick responses: Paul Sand, David Romani, Matt Moore, Fred Lance, Karen Thomas, Bill Bathurst, Harlod Lundberg. The quick fix was to use the ESC ESC X key sequence, which passes through the Decserver 90 to the Alpha. We'll be using the suggested modifiactions to the terminal server itself for the long term solution. dan@coastal.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 06:51:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA28927 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 06:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA16385 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 06:46:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA16381 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 06:46:15 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:40:28 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id OAA15389; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:40:58 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:40:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Fyodor Yarochkin cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Headers available when composing... The set shown by default (without having to give the ^R Rich Header command) can be set using the "default-composer-hdrs" in Pine's Setup Configuration screen. Turning off the Fcc: folder... In the Setup Configuration screen ste the "default-fcc" value to the empty string (""). On-line help is available for both of these... in the Setup Configuration screen put the cursor on the item you want to learn about and type "?". Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Fyodor Yarochkin wrote: > hey.. is there any possiblities to fix rich header alwayz while icompose > message ( so i won't have to press ^r everytime) > and another thing, is it possible to fix Fcc: > if i don't want to copy ever my message to sent-mail? > > > regards > fyoodr > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:01:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA31976 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:01:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA20213 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:54:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA20209 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:54:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYFI5-00038WC; Thu, 12 Dec 96 09:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ca@informatik.uni-kiel.de (Claus Assmann) Subject: Re: anti-relay (check_rcpt) and pine no good? Date: 12 Dec 1996 09:07:05 +0100 Message-ID: <58oef9$e4l@mine.informatik.uni-kiel.de> References: In dan@beach.net (Dan Busarow) writes: >In article , > loki@world.std.com (Greg Mortensen) writes: >> Has anyone tried the anti-gateway (ie. check_rcpt) ruleset (from >> http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~ca/email/check.html) with the Pine >> mailer? >I have those rules installed and use Pine. The problem is with a new Pine version which talks SMTP to sendmail, but uses sendmail -bs. In this case, the ${client_addr} is 0 :-( So you need to add R0 $@ ok client_addr is 0 for sendmail -bs before R$={LocalIP}.$* $@ ok from here This solved the problem. The Web page and the HACKs have been updated. Regards, Claus Assmann -- Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Albert Einstein From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:33:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA04111 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:33:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA19056 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:24:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA19052 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:24:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYFla-00038WC; Thu, 12 Dec 96 10:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William C Bonner Message-ID: <32AF5DA3.739A@lgx.com> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:19:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Pine support for DSN? (Delivery Status Notification) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randall C. Nortman wrote: > > Is there a way to get Pine (I'm using 3.95) to use DSN (Delivery > Status Notification) if the MTA supports it? > > FYI: DSN provides a way for the sender of a message to be notified > upon successful, failed, and/or delayed delivery of the message. Note > that this is for delivery (the message was placed in the users mail > spool), not receipt (the user's MUA received the message). > > It's part of RFC 1891 (Jan 1996), "SMTP Service Extension for Delivery > Status Notifications." Related RFC's are 1892 and 1894. It replaces > the Return-Receipt-To header, which was never standard AFAIK. I've got the following two lines in my .pinerc file. If I send to someone who is getting mail on a sendmail 6.x setup, I get delivery notices. If I send to someone who is behind a ccMail gateway, I get actial read receipts. customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To: William C Bonner , Bcc: William C Bonner The Bcc: is just so that I get more than the Fcc default. I can't remember a location to lookup RFCs right now, so I am not positive I'm answering the correct question. -- William C Bonner 6110 E Mockingbird Ln Home Fax: +1-214-692-9277 Voice: +1-214-692-9278 Suite 102-762 Work Fax: +1-214-989-9782 Voice: +1-214-989-9781 Dallas, TX 75214-2600 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:08:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA00624 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:08:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA23268 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:03:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA23264 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:03:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA08635; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:03:00 -0800 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:02:58 -0800 (PST) From: Stefan Kramer Reply-To: Stefan Kramer To: Jean Richelle cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Remote (IMAP) folder in Folder List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington Computing and Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Jean, For information on specifying an IMAP folder or folder collection in Pine, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/user-guide/info/imap.syntax.html For a single folder, you can add it to your list of "incoming folders" -- to create that folder list, which then also (and initially only) will include your INBOX, you need to first check the "enable-incoming-folders"= =20 feature in the SETUP CONFIGURATION screen; read the context-sensitive help screen for that feature while you're there. You could also just type the IMAP single-folder definition at the "GOTO folder..." prompt (if you have no need to access a certain remote folder frequently), for example: =09*{imap.mid.net/anonymous}pub/NET/96-12-11 to look at yesterday's postings to the Net-Happenings mailing list (thanks to Nancy McGough (posting to Pine-Info on 6 Jul 1996) for discovering that resource).=20 For *multiple folders stored in the same directory* on an IMAP server, you'd need to set up a new folder collection, in SETUP CONFIGURATION. For example, to set up a folder collection to access the entire archives of the Pine-Info discussion forum, the IMAP syntax for that folder collection in Pine is:=20 =09*{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[]=20 That way, you could then search the Pine-Info message archives month-by-month -- say, if you remember seeing something of interest posted in November or October -- in contrast to the search across all months back to Jan. 1995 you can perform via the Web page at http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu Computing & Communications University of Washington =20 ------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Jean Richelle wrote: # Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:41:47 +0100 # From: Jean Richelle # To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu # Subject: Remote (IMAP) folder in Folder List #=20 # Hi, #=20 # I can't find a way to specify a remote folder (accessed through IMAP) so # that it will appear in the "Folder List" window. Is such a thing possible # ? #=20 # Jean #=20 # _________________________________________________________________________= ____ # Jean Richelle # Unit=E9 de Conformation des Macromol=E9cules Biologiques Tel: 32-2-6= 50 35 87 # Universit=E9 libre de Bruxelles FAX: 32-2-648= 89 54 # av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium # _________________________________________________________________________= ____ #=20 #=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:33:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA04751 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA23900 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:30:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA23893 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:30:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYHhX-00038WC; Thu, 12 Dec 96 12:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Adam Love" Subject: SMTP gone away! Date: 4 Dec 1996 21:09:26 GMT Message-ID: <01bbe22f$f1f92d40$8a0bf926@dabug.onebellevue.com> 421 SMTP gone away or something close to that is the message I get when trying to subscribe to a news group! Can anyone help me? If so email me at: dabug@onebellevue.com Thanks! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:01:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA08690 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:01:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA24341 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 13:55:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from newra.src.umd.edu (newra.src.umd.edu [128.8.111.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA24337 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 13:55:33 -0800 Received: from bar.isr.umd.edu (bar.isr.umd.edu [128.8.111.169]) by newra.src.umd.edu (8.8.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA00891 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:55:32 -0500 (EST) From: Sandeep Rao Received: (from pooja@localhost) by bar.isr.umd.edu (8.8.3/8.7.3) id QAA26770 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:55:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:55:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612122155.QAA26770@bar.isr.umd.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem with pine I am experiencing this strange problem with pine. I am not able to send messages from pine (However I am able to recevive messages). Whenever I try to send a message it says - `error ..42 ...'. Any idea whats going on? , From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:50:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA31349 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA26873 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:45:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA26869 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:45:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYKkM-00038XC; Thu, 12 Dec 96 15:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mélanie Auger <"melanie auger"@callisto.si.usherb.ca> Subject: guy Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 04:34:48 -0500 Message-ID: <32A545B8.6E65@callisto.si.usherb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bonjour From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:44:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA08868 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:44:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA29744 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:40:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA29740 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:40:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYLc1-00038WC; Thu, 12 Dec 96 16:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Tracey O'Brien" Subject: Re: HELP Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:34:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, The Dix wrote: > Being quite new to emailing (and therefore PINE) I was wondering.... > > When I am in a newsgroup for the first time, and want to delete a hundred > or so messages (so I can get to the last 10!)... > > How do I go about doing this???? > > I would appreciate any advice.... > > Thanks in advance! > > Kerri Dixon > Kerri-- I dunno! Tracey From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:38:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA11241 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA29098 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:35:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA29093 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:35:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYMU5-00038WC; Thu, 12 Dec 96 17:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikedoug@texas.net (Michael Douglass) Subject: imapd/pine3.94/file perms Date: 10 Dec 1996 23:49:20 GMT Message-ID: <58ksu0$s1v@news3.texas.net> Okay, I need imapd to set the perms on the mail boxes to 660, not 600... I'm tired of trying to decode the source; anyone know how to do this--is there a FAQ? Anything?? -- Michael Douglass Texas Networking, Inc. "The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there." L. P. Hartley, British author. The Go-Between, Prologue (1953). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:53:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA12365 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA01136 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:50:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA01132 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:50:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYMhX-00038WC; Thu, 12 Dec 96 17:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marty Brenneis Subject: Connection Refused Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:36:43 -0800 Message-ID: <32B0268B.186B@well.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to run pine 3.95 on a Win95 system at my office. When I try and connect to the pop server, I get an error message that the connection was refused. I can run PC-Pine on my home system to other pop servers. I can also access the office pop server fron nutscrape's mailer and fron procomm's mail client. Any suggestions? Any clues? =Marty Brenneis Industrial Magician droid@well.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:38:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA12035 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA00100 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:35:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA29997 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:35:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYNQ8-00038WC; Thu, 12 Dec 96 18:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: Config file problem Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:32:06 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Chet Lad wrote: > I'm using PINE 3.95 for UNIX. Whenever I try to edit my configuration, it > says: > > [Config file not editable, can't change options or settings] > > What the name of the config file and where does it reside? ~/.pinerc is the name of the config file. Nathan D Richards Toronto, Ontario, Canada E-mail: nathanr@k2.ashpool.com WWW: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ & http://paradise.ashpool.com/ - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzKvVLUAAAEEAK/aJ0sFtNX4s5IVeJr02fOawamnfndU4CBfPYcgqL63xIoJ 8jCyAdkFj8LrvWf8US3rnT7tk2KPfMwBvTZF5EFO5UxabSsxu9i+sKGdiwBUt7Ta bkrvNFgrJdp6z0nb89zGSw+Ac/M0xTjJplG9/kL3CB7lQAboExpFxd2faGqFAAUR tCpOYXRoYW4gRCBSaWNoYXJkcyA8bmF0aGFuckBrMi5hc2hwb29sLmNvbT4= =jdPq - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMrCkGBpFxd2faGqFAQHa5wP/YyXsPKGadTzeoqO0Qmt9nj/vmrZXkbzP +Ld6TsI8o7BmIRSYyh0usNp5/LuoJNRK0k0WG9KYuGnvEduaRzmy8S6gOJxy75fK NVq3qY9/v2+kLhed+6tfWPPPIEhL5QzdAnd8Ysqanpdhm7f949twsz/WH0fLT7ea tfA3IFp6ga4= =J2N8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:02:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA09589 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA00393 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:00:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from md2.md.chula.ac.th (md2.md.chula.ac.th [161.200.96.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA00377 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:59:18 -0800 Received: by md2.md.chula.ac.th (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA23588; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:01:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:01:51 -0700 (GMT-0700) From: Sasathorn Chaiyapet To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ftp Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir, I would like to know, How to use ftp? Thank, Sasathorn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:48:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA12120 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA02644 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:45:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nicnet.nic.in (nicnet.nic.in [164.100.3.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA02634 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:45:08 -0800 Received: from hub.nic.in by nicnet.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA05439; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:18:19 +0530 Received: from localhost by hub.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA25138; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:12:26 +0530 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:12:26 +0530 (IST) From: "0000-Admin(0000)" To: Fyodor Yarochkin cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE OVER SCO-XENIX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Thanks for replying, I have tried compiling using the make and build command.But there are numerous libraries that are missing in the SCO-XENIX platform which pine needs for successful compilation.That's the reason why I need help doing it.If you have any further info please let me know as it is very urgent... regards, seema On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Fyodor Yarochkin wrote: > i guess you can compile sourse code using make or something... > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:34:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA14385 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA03353 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:31:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA03349 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:31:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYPFh-00038YC; Thu, 12 Dec 96 20:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Justify During Reply (was Pine vs NX) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 21:52:23 GMT Message-ID: <584rn1$9uv@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: On 30 Nov 1996 21:04:50 -0800, shotgun@best.com (Michael) wrote: >Do you know if it is normal for the default composer (PICO) to have trouble >justifying a line once the message has been postponed? >It seems it loses track of the character used for quoting >(reply-indent-string = : in my case) and justifies the hole line missing >the point of what the reply-indent-string is for. >This DOESN'T happen if I do the same thing to the original message before a >postpone, only after the message was postponed. Pine seems to be "smart" about re-wrapping lines paying attention to the quote character only when REPLYing to a message. When you resume a reply, you're in COMPOSE mode, not REPLY mode. That's my theory, anyway. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:35:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA29886 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:35:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA03359 for pine-info-out; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:31:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA03355 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:31:30 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA28753; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:54:39 +0530 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:54:39 +0530 (IST) From: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: Fyodor Yarochkin cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Mail for SCO Unix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Fyodor Yarochkin wrote: > On 11 Dec 1996, Sean Allison wrote: > > I am new to this newsgroup so please forgive me if this has already been > > covered. Can anyone tell me what is the latest version of Pine mail for > > Unix? > well, i suppose 3.91.. if anyone knows newer? i have using 3.93 > > > -X----- Fyodor --- fygrave@freenet.bishkek.su --------------------------X-- > "With heart and hand I pledge you while I load my gun again, you will > never be fogotten or the enemy forgiven, my good comrade..." > - Anton Szandor LaVay > -X--http://www.freenet.bishkek.su/fygrave.html---tel:(3312)474465-------X-- > -X--http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8302-mirror-at-geocities-X-- > pgp is awaliable from pgp-key-servers : > pub 2048/3D22AF59 1980/03/24 Fyodor Yarochkin > Key fingerprint = 1F 38 55 07 98 F9 42 7D 57 73 74 FA 9C 5B 29 FB > > "As Above, So Below. > The Macrocosm, the Microcosm. > The Entire Universe is Contained > In The Human Creature" > To The Fallen Angels > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:10:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA13748 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:10:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA06180 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:06:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA06167 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:05:49 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id NAA17996; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:11:13 +0600 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:11:12 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine and Shell Commands.. and Spell CHecker Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hey.. I wonder if there is anywayz to Run Shell Commands right from Pico-Pine's Editor without Exit... and, What might be caused if my "Spell" Checker doesn't work.. acutally it does, but all the time, whatever i type, it says Spell Checkin' is ok [ Done checking spelling ] like this one.. Any Ideas?> Regards Fyodor From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:24:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA16481 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA04748 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:20:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA04731 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:19:46 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id NAA18183; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:24:53 +0600 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:24:51 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: Marty Brenneis cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Connection Refused In-Reply-To: <32B0268B.186B@well.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I am trying to run pine 3.95 on a Win95 system at my office. When I > try and connect to the pop server, I get an error message that the > connection was refused. > > I can run PC-Pine on my home system to other pop servers. I can also > access the office pop server fron nutscrape's mailer and fron procomm's > mail client. > > Any suggestions? Any clues? what port does it use to connect... maybe the problem is that port conection is closed on that host? ( i am refering to finger "same " message,... when you finger to some hosts, where finger daemon "is dead" you get the same message From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:24:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA16248 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA04745 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:20:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA04729 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:19:32 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id NAA18165; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:22:42 +0600 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:22:41 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: Sandeep Rao cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with pine In-Reply-To: <199612122155.QAA26770@bar.isr.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > I am experiencing this strange problem with pine. I am not able to send messages from pine (However I am able to recevive messages). Whenever I try to send a message it says - `error ..42 ...'. Any idea whats going on? > , check permittions to mail dir, then to sent-mail file.. then check if sendmail sends messages correctly,.. then get rich header and check if there is all ok.. that's what 'd do if i got this From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:58:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA16347 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA05165 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:55:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from resu1.ulb.ac.be (resu1.ulb.ac.be [164.15.59.200]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA05161; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:55:20 -0800 Received: from knopf.ulb.ac.be by resu1.ulb.ac.be (8.6.8.1/2.18.ap) id JAA22409; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:53:29 +0100 Received: from localhost by knopf.ulb.ac.be (4.1/ULB.940202) id AA10611; Fri, 13 Dec 96 09:52:57 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:52:56 +0100 (MET) From: Jean Richelle X-Sender: jean@knopf To: Stefan Kramer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Remote (IMAP) folder in Folder List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi Stefan, Thank you very much ! Now I got it. Some suggestions ? 1. In the context-sensitive help for "eneable-incoming-folders", it could be told that for the server the following syntax is correct: =09ucmb.ulb.ac.be/usr=3Da_user 2. In the same help, the folder can be INBOX or the full pathname of the mailbox. 3. In http://www.washington.edu/pine/user-guide/info/imap.syntax.html be more explicit about the different places where IMAP addresses can be used. Once again, thank you for your help. Jean On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote: > Jean, >=20 > For information on specifying an IMAP folder or folder collection in Pine= , > see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/user-guide/info/imap.syntax.html >=20 > For a single folder, you can add it to your list of "incoming folders" -= - > to create that folder list, which then also (and initially only) will > include your INBOX, you need to first check the "enable-incoming-folders"= =20 > feature in the SETUP CONFIGURATION screen; read the context-sensitive hel= p > screen for that feature while you're there. You could also just type the > IMAP single-folder definition at the "GOTO folder..." prompt (if you have > no need to access a certain remote folder frequently), for example: >=20 > =09*{imap.mid.net/anonymous}pub/NET/96-12-11 >=20 > to look at yesterday's postings to the Net-Happenings mailing list (thank= s > to Nancy McGough (posting to Pine-Info on 6 Jul 1996) for discovering tha= t > resource).=20 >=20 >=20 > For *multiple folders stored in the same directory* on an IMAP server, > you'd need to set up a new folder collection, in SETUP CONFIGURATION. Fo= r > example, to set up a folder collection to access the entire archives of t= he > Pine-Info discussion forum, the IMAP syntax for that folder collection in > Pine is:=20 >=20 > =09*{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[]=20 >=20 > That way, you could then search the Pine-Info message archives > month-by-month -- say, if you remember seeing something of interest poste= d > in November or October -- in contrast to the search across all months bac= k > to Jan. 1995 you can perform via the Web page at > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu > Computing & Communications University of Washington =20 > ------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 > On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Jean Richelle wrote: >=20 > # Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:41:47 +0100 > # From: Jean Richelle > # To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > # Subject: Remote (IMAP) folder in Folder List > #=20 > # Hi, > #=20 > # I can't find a way to specify a remote folder (accessed through IMAP) s= o > # that it will appear in the "Folder List" window. Is such a thing possib= le > # ? > #=20 > # Jean > #=20 > # _______________________________________________________________________= ______ > # Jean Richelle > # Unit=E9 de Conformation des Macromol=E9cules Biologiques Tel: 32-2= -650 35 87 > # Universit=E9 libre de Bruxelles FAX: 32-2-6= 48 89 54 > # av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium > # _______________________________________________________________________= ______ > #=20 > #=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 ___________________________________________________________________________= __ Jean Richelle Unit=E9 de Conformation des Macromol=E9cules Biologiques Tel: 32-2-650= 35 87 Universit=E9 libre de Bruxelles FAX: 32-2-648 8= 9 54 av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium ___________________________________________________________________________= __ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:30:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA06781 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA07574 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:25:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA07561 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:24:02 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id RAA21492; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:29:16 +0600 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:29:16 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Text formating (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY=OpenStep-Mail-14841-19 Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --OpenStep-Mail-14841-19 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-ID: Anyone knows how torepeat that thing i am sending as attach? if you do please.. share with me --OpenStep-Mail-14841-19 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY=OpenStep-Mail-26884-20 Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --OpenStep-Mail-26884-20 Content-Type: TEXT/ENRICHED; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: > NOw I can't seem to repeate it but=20 > See if this has it ?? :) well, This HaSN't.. and i tried to repeat it as well, but all = the time i failed.. and.. worked only when i tried to bounce that message = to me. Hmm I think I also bounced my first message to you . Unfoutantly I cant remember anthing but cutting and pasting. So = maybe I bounced the resent and cut and pasted the message. Mike --OpenStep-Mail-26884-20-- --OpenStep-Mail-14841-19-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:15:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA05487 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA09456 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:08:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orca.cc.metu.edu.tr (orca.cc.metu.edu.tr [144.122.1.104]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA09446 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:08:08 -0800 Received: from localhost by orca.cc.metu.edu.tr (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03.METU.CLIENT) id AA65608; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:01:14 +0300 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:01:14 +0300 (MEST) From: ulas ceran To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! My name is Ulas. I am from Turkey. I am an 18 years-old boy. I want to have an E-Mail friend. If this friend is from Europa or North America, I will be very happy. I am waiting your answer. My address is e104161@narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:06:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA25326 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA16164 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:03:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA16160 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:03:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYcqV-00038ZC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 11:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rlindber@kendaco.telebyte.net.REMOVE.THIS.TO.REPLY (Ralph Lindberg & Ellen Winnie) Subject: Re: My NNTP server requires a password! How with Pine? Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 19:12:10 -0700 Message-ID: References: <58iaq8$bht@tofu.alt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <58iaq8$bht@tofu.alt.net>, wyatt@dis.org wrote: > >Does anybody have any idea what I am talking about? Yup, I don't think pine support this. But there are applications on every platform that do (Netscape, tin, YA-Newswatcher, Free-Agent, Agent). Just depends on which one you are using. -- Ralph Lindberg N7BSN RV and Camping FAQ Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:32:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA25247 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA18412 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:27:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA18408 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:27:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYf8C-00038WC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 13:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de (Joachim Schaaf) Subject: ispell in pine? Date: 13 Dec 1996 15:24:09 +0100 Message-ID: <58rou9$3p9-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Hello, is it possible to use the spell-checker ispell in (Unix-) pine? Thanks in advance, Joachim. -- ------Jeder neuer Disney-Film ist ein Meisterwerk. Hahaha.--------- Joachim Schaaf @ home running Linux (0221-9624593 login gast/gast). e-mail: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de, Joachim.Schaaf@gmd.de www : http://www.dvz.fh-koeln.de/~bn500/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:07:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA27006 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:07:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA20357 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:02:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA20353 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:02:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYfcj-00038WC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 13:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Duic Subject: Re: adding reply-to field Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:33:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <587ofm$l1r@badger.wmin.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Peter Karlsson wrote: > > OK this is nice but how can I automaticaly have filed in value of the > > address ? > > Yes. You can supply a value when you enter the "Reply-To" field in the > settings. Just add a colon and the text after it (in my case I have > "Reply-To: dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se" on some computers). > > > Supose I have two adresses an I want ppl to reply on both of them ? > > I don't believe that can be achieved. Thanks for answer. I know it work that way but is there a way to achive second goal. (Reply to 2 different e-mail addresses) I am not sure for what purpose is "alt-addresses=" entry in .pinerc ?! please reply both ... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:09:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA25785 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA19467 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:05:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA19463 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:05:38 -0800 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18433>; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:44:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:49:41 -0500 From: SandraB To: Joachim Schaaf Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ispell in pine? In-Reply-To: <58rou9$3p9-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <96Dec13.164454est.18433@gateway.happy.com> We run ipsell with pine on our system (AIX). ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be result of the past than a cause of the future. On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Joachim Schaaf wrote: > Hello, > > is it possible to use the spell-checker ispell in (Unix-) pine? > > Thanks in advance, > > Joachim. > > -- > ------Jeder neuer Disney-Film ist ein Meisterwerk. Hahaha.--------- > Joachim Schaaf @ home running Linux (0221-9624593 login gast/gast). > e-mail: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de, Joachim.Schaaf@gmd.de > www : http://www.dvz.fh-koeln.de/~bn500/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:15:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA28827 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA19663 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:11:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rohan.sdsu.edu (rohan.sdsu.edu [130.191.143.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA19659 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:11:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (browna@localhost) by rohan.sdsu.edu (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02649; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:08:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:08:08 -0800 (PST) From: brown To: Undisclosed recipients: ; Subject: HELP! 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:20:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA30789 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:20:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA22252 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:18:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA22248 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:18:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYgpw-00038YC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 15:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Mail-on-demand? Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 18:55:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Charlie Negyesi wrote: > hi! Szervusz, > I'd like to get some Linux mailagent which is possible of showing the > headers (ie. From/Subject) of the incoming letters and download only those > that are really needed. Az pont ami csinal az IMAP protocol! (I will continue in English from here) That is what IMAP/Pine do. The mail stays on a remote server. When you view the index with Pine on an IMAP server, only the headers are retrieved. Only when you select a message for reading/printing/saving, etc is the body retrieved. > PS. How could I set up Pine as a POP3 client? After asking the question that you asked, I don't really understand why you want to do that, but just specify the remote host for pine to use with {host.name.here/pop3} in the inbox path. > Charlie Negyesi <> chx@cs.elte.hu <> I love Pooh and teddy bears! <> Most people reading this won't know that the Hungarian translation of Pooh is better than the original. -Dzseff -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:21:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA25647 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:21:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA21229 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:18:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA21225 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:18:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYgor-00038WC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 15:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steven C King Subject: Re: .pine-debug* files Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:22:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 9 Dec 1996, Ing. Jose Sergio Arizpe Trevino wrote: > Hello, how can i stop creating the .pine-debug* files, cause i > have a little quota and they occupies space. pine -d 0 The -d option tells PINE to do 0 level debugging, meaning that no debug files will be made. If PINE is stable for you, the debug files are useless. Of course, the only drawback is that PINE could always mysteriously crash, which you'll have no debug files for reference. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { kings@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~kings/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc. } { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:56:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA32677 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA24241 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:52:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu (autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.24]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA24234 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:52:46 -0800 Received: from localhost (ashapiro@localhost) by autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id TAA05984 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 19:52:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 19:52:44 -0500 (EST) From: Adam E Shapiro To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Paper Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whomever it may concern, I typed my paper on the email and tried to send it out. The computer said error, message FAILED and my paper was gone. Where is it? Please tell me how to get it back. My grade depends on it. Signed, Adam Shapiro From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:11:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA16157 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:11:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA23625 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:08:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA23621 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:08:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYiWp-00038WC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 17:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rlindber@kendaco.telebyte.net.REMOVE.THIS.TO.REPLY (Ralph Lindberg & Ellen Winnie) Subject: Re: pine dource for MkLinux Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:45:24 -0700 Message-ID: References: <58imfb$9ev@pith.uoregon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <58imfb$9ev@pith.uoregon.edu>, sharding@owl.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding) wrote: >Hi there. I am running MkLinux on a PowerMac and I haven't been able to >find a suitable pine that will compile. The only Linux Pine I see anywhere >is the i386 binary, which will not work for me since I have a PowerPC chip. > Have you tried downloading the source tar file and running the Build script for regular Linux? I didn't try Pine, but I did run the build script for Pico and it works fine. I didn't see anything that would lead me to believe that I couldn't do it. Ralph -- Ralph Lindberg N7BSN RV and Camping FAQ Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:13:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA31987 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA24621 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:11:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from micro.internexus.net (internexus.net [206.152.14.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA24617 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:11:11 -0800 Received: from localhost (gthieman@localhost) by micro.internexus.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA22152 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:11:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:11:07 -0500 (EST) From: Eugene Thiemann To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I remove empty folders? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have figured out how to get rid of files within a folder in PINE, but once the folder is empty, how do I delete the empty folder? Thanks. Gene. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:06:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA13606 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA25387 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:03:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA25380 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:03:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYjNy-00038WC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 17:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Wilcutts Subject: Re: display Application/POSTSCRIPT Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:31:06 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1749011191-850282266=:11451" In-Reply-To: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1749011191-850282266=:11451 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII IF you are using Unix pine, you need to set up .mailcap and .mime.types files in your home directory. I have attached mine for reference. I have set up dxpsview as my viewer, yours will probably be something else. 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tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:21:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA00087 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA24558 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:18:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA24554 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:18:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYjd7-00038WC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 18:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wmoore51@laser.net (bill moore) Subject: test Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:35:08 -0500 Message-ID: test From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:46:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA02003 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:46:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA27490 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:44:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA27486 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:44:26 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm4-adr77.interl.net [205.244.161.77]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA27212; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:41:04 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00261; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:44:20 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:44:20 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Joachim Schaaf cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ispell in pine? In-Reply-To: <58rou9$3p9-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 13 Dec 1996, Joachim Schaaf wrote: > is it possible to use the spell-checker ispell in (Unix-) pine? Here's what I have in my $HOME/.pinerc # Specifies the program invoked by ^T in the Composer. speller=ispell -x Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMrIwkCGB07hAGnFhAQH7rwQAp6t41rJCgBtSSEgsV+6b9kJgQ8eFcaKs 28Hwz72gRW5k0ko0SiC0YMqr/d0SlMglRdCDAEZ5oh4PX9ma9W9q0PVJSFHrC35w rb/6fOxW1w9h2iD+HlPMEG1vSqGJZxs8ivsRBipLQ5r/yMjPipViXc+fUpRO1Ngl TBAx9Q7IKcM= =nofc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @isonline.com, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:05:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA20474 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA26709 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:03:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA26705 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:03:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYmG4-00038aC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 21:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: greg@newbury.edu (Greg) Subject: Re: How do I remove empty folders? Date: 14 Dec 96 02:44:16 GMT Message-ID: References: In article , Eugene Thiemann wrote: > >I have figured out how to get rid of files within a folder in PINE, but >once the folder is empty, how do I delete the empty folder? When you're in the list of folders, just highlight the empty one and press D. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:06:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA01932 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:05:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA27710 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:03:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA27705 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:03:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYmFm-00038ZC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 21:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bob van der Poel Subject: using pipe with dialup ppp Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 19:20:02 -0700 Message-ID: <32B20ED2.4B236B6F@awinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a way to use pine on a dialup line. I have an ISP I use a modem to connect to. I would like to compose stuff while disconnected using pine, and then after I connect push a button to transmit my stuff. I have told pine about my SMPT, etc. but when I compose a message it barfs when I try to send it. Doesn't seem to be a send-later switch. Perhaps there is a FAQ I can access somewhere Thanks! -- __ / ) / Bob van der Poel /--< ____/__ bvdpoel@awinc.com /___/_(_) /_) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:06:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA23441 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:06:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA27415 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:03:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA27411 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:03:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 14 Dec 96 14:02:24 +0800 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 14:02:23 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Bob van der Poel cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: using pipe with dialup ppp In-Reply-To: <32B20ED2.4B236B6F@awinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Bob van der Poel wrote: > Is there a way to use pine on a dialup line. I have an ISP I use a modem > to connect to. I would like to > compose stuff while disconnected using pine, and then after I connect > push a button to transmit > my stuff. I have told pine about my SMPT, etc. but when I compose a > message it barfs when I try to send it. Doesn't seem to be a send-later > switch. Perhaps there is a FAQ I can access somewhere Pine does not yet support a "disconnected" mode. That will come with the support of IMAP4 in pine4.0. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:39:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA26862 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA27800 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:37:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA27790 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:37:11 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA22899; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:37:07 -0800 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:37:06 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Edward M Greshko cc: Bob van der Poel , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: using pipe with dialup ppp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just to be extra precise: the IMAP4 support that is being incorporated in Pine 4.00 is necessary but not sufficient for disconnected operation. Both offline and disconnected operation is still planned, but won't be ready for Pine 4.00 -teg On Sat, 14 Dec 1996, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Bob van der Poel wrote: > > > Is there a way to use pine on a dialup line. I have an ISP I use a modem > > to connect to. I would like to > > compose stuff while disconnected using pine, and then after I connect > > push a button to transmit > > my stuff. I have told pine about my SMPT, etc. but when I compose a > > message it barfs when I try to send it. Doesn't seem to be a send-later > > switch. Perhaps there is a FAQ I can access somewhere > > Pine does not yet support a "disconnected" mode. That will come > with the support of IMAP4 in pine4.0. > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:47:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA00952 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:47:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA28884 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:44:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA28879 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:44:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYnld-00038bC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 22:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: Newsgroups Date: 10 Dec 1996 01:32:17 GMT Message-ID: References: On 7 Dec 1996 00:14:02 -0800, Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: [<-->] Hello eveyone, [<-->] I am having great difficulty in access newsgroups. Does anyone know of a [<-->] news server which I can use? The ISP does not provide me with newsgroups [<-->] access. [<-->] [<-->] Any help will be greatly appreciated. [<-->] [<-->] Thank you very much, Dinesh. You can access a Public NNTP server (www.yahoo.com, search for public usenet) _ONLY_ if you are directly connected to that NNTP server i.e. if you can do a telnet NNTP_SERVER 119 Since you are coming thru a ISP, I doubt you can do this. But, if you can, I too would like to do the exaclt same thing. I am behind a security firewall and would like to access a public NNTP server. Please forward any direct emails you get on this to me. Thanks. --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:52:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA02334 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:51:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA27950 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:49:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA27946 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:49:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYnth-00038bC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 22:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: janus@giasmd01.vsnl.net.in Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:11:12 -0600 Subject: How to access Newgroups from Pine?? Message-ID: <850442293.8293@dejanews.com> Hi! I am using pine to send and recv mail and have Internet Shell account. I would like to know how to access news groups via Pine. When I press Ctrl-R from the To: field I get a field for Newgroups also. But when I enter the name of a newsgroup in it it says something about no remote news server being defined. Do I have to create a .newsrc file?? what are all the steps I should under-take in order to access newgroups through Pine?? I would be extremely grateful if somebody could help me on this. By the way, in case I have to provide in pine, the name of a remote-news server, kindly also tell me where I can find them. (I mean the list of remote-news servers) Thanks in advance Dilip -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:52:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA01875 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA27944 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:49:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA27940 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:49:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYntg-00038aC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 22:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: how to set up filters in pine? Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:26:36 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Jason Burnett wrote: > hi > > i need to set up pine so that it puts all emails coming > from a certain email address in it's own folder automatically. > anyone know how to do this? 'man filter' or 'man procmail' will give you the info you need. Nathan D Richards Toronto, Ontario, Canada E-mail: nathanr@k2.ashpool.com WWW: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ & http://paradise.ashpool.com/ - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzKvVLUAAAEEAK/aJ0sFtNX4s5IVeJr02fOawamnfndU4CBfPYcgqL63xIoJ 8jCyAdkFj8LrvWf8US3rnT7tk2KPfMwBvTZF5EFO5UxabSsxu9i+sKGdiwBUt7Ta bkrvNFgrJdp6z0nb89zGSw+Ac/M0xTjJplG9/kL3CB7lQAboExpFxd2faGqFAAUR tCpOYXRoYW4gRCBSaWNoYXJkcyA8bmF0aGFuckBrMi5hc2hwb29sLmNvbT4= =jdPq - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMrCiwhpFxd2faGqFAQGLbQQAkC+zMwpuMT/FdJIAWHBc80hGVT/uh1vP xvejn6En4t9AF6QcPIzbn+6i9PY7VXlosoFReySJ4/M7ZzaS3qXi6uTEDwm81NnE LJLWpysyQoCpZGhCL48sWEzA2OPCYEiPTWrrhJD8AzOXJEgeVTSVRnCkuRNeEJky SzjYyo/8zlU= =jkq4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:52:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA31770 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA28961 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:49:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA28957 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:49:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYntg-00038ZC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 22:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: fax to email Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:22:12 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 3 Dec 1996, John de Boer wrote: > This is prob off-topic > > I would like to fax document to my email account and then EDIT the text. > I've got about 40 a4 pages of text. Would save me a lot of input typing > > Don't have access to a OCR scanner Try http://www.tpc.int/ They're an email to fax service, if that is what you are looking for. Otherwise, you're pretty much stuck. Nathan D Richards Toronto, Ontario, Canada E-mail: nathanr@k2.ashpool.com WWW: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ & http://paradise.ashpool.com/ - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzKvVLUAAAEEAK/aJ0sFtNX4s5IVeJr02fOawamnfndU4CBfPYcgqL63xIoJ 8jCyAdkFj8LrvWf8US3rnT7tk2KPfMwBvTZF5EFO5UxabSsxu9i+sKGdiwBUt7Ta bkrvNFgrJdp6z0nb89zGSw+Ac/M0xTjJplG9/kL3CB7lQAboExpFxd2faGqFAAUR tCpOYXRoYW4gRCBSaWNoYXJkcyA8bmF0aGFuckBrMi5hc2hwb29sLmNvbT4= =jdPq - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMrChvRpFxd2faGqFAQHDBQP9EBz932NRYgamGDeNF0eyw855X34a8xV4 UzXY3h47xTXIvy48xZgCVGm8O4YQxKT1kJ+D4hGTV43lNskWjX2e0UTB3T6iPRLB oZBIW1PfV7v9eXlsYYx0Q0QZ5i1PR8LCD1E58n0cPTBBO4SU69Nh/YAtCWV+eWr9 RJM/sM646x4= =x1kL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:52:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA03110 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA28978 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:49:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA28965 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:49:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYnti-00038cC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 22:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The Dix Subject: HELP Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:27:41 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Being quite new to emailing (and therefore PINE) I was wondering.... When I am in a newsgroup for the first time, and want to delete a hundred or so messages (so I can get to the last 10!)... How do I go about doing this???? I would appreciate any advice.... Thanks in advance! Kerri Dixon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:56:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA00964 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA29027 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:54:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA29023 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:54:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYnuQ-00038ZC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 22:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The Dix Subject: Re: HELP Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:44:19 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > > Being quite new to emailing (and therefore PINE) I was wondering.... > > > > When I am in a newsgroup for the first time, and want to delete a hundred > > or so messages (so I can get to the last 10!)... > > > > How do I go about doing this???? > > > > I would appreciate any advice.... > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Kerri Dixon > > > > > Kerri-- I dunno! > Tracey Screw off Tracey!!! You are the one I am ASKING this for!!!!! Let the people talk!!! I am sorry for my friend's STUPIDITY!!! You'll have to excuse us...we have a warped sense of humour!!! BUT....as you can see...we do need help in more ways than one..... Thanks again!! Kerri Dixon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:57:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA02899 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA27999 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:54:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA27995 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:54:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYnua-00038YC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 22:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: folder w/in folders Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:25:37 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 3 Dec 1996, John de Boer wrote: > is it possible to set up folders within folders? No, not that I'm aware of. Nathan D Richards Toronto, Ontario, Canada E-mail: nathanr@k2.ashpool.com WWW: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ & http://paradise.ashpool.com/ - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzKvVLUAAAEEAK/aJ0sFtNX4s5IVeJr02fOawamnfndU4CBfPYcgqL63xIoJ 8jCyAdkFj8LrvWf8US3rnT7tk2KPfMwBvTZF5EFO5UxabSsxu9i+sKGdiwBUt7Ta bkrvNFgrJdp6z0nb89zGSw+Ac/M0xTjJplG9/kL3CB7lQAboExpFxd2faGqFAAUR tCpOYXRoYW4gRCBSaWNoYXJkcyA8bmF0aGFuckBrMi5hc2hwb29sLmNvbT4= =jdPq - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMrCihhpFxd2faGqFAQGR3AP/QhnL8FFz5akLAa/CwI1QnmbVgaH5TmIU pLr9kgCap5Rj2zN7fh8EftIKXn6jbaMObJ1ffOaNfQ4V1Zn2imd7Z7GzJQfQzgwv P+/VPP0F6JhfRSH1Fb3IkgHwe4ikgzeAbCjflF93pXhZF8sWXF/utYmeBQgcdOcQ cYzl8HdsXtw= =abQ7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:57:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA02461 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA28005 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:54:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA28001 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:54:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYnuR-00038aC; Fri, 13 Dec 96 22:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: Got a question. Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:24:05 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 3 Dec 1996, Hollie Mello wrote: > To whoever is reading these things, > I got a question. Back in Gretna where I used to have e-mail, we > had a telephone type thing where you could call someone up and write to > them in a phone coversation sort of way. We don't have that here at Skutt > and I would like to know how to set it up. If you mean 'talk', just type 'talk person@whereever.com' if you are using UNIX or a variant of it. There are programs for Windows that use Talk, go to http://www.tucows.com/ for a talk program if you are running Windows. Nathan D Richards Toronto, Ontario, Canada E-mail: nathanr@k2.ashpool.com WWW: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ & http://paradise.ashpool.com/ - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzKvVLUAAAEEAK/aJ0sFtNX4s5IVeJr02fOawamnfndU4CBfPYcgqL63xIoJ 8jCyAdkFj8LrvWf8US3rnT7tk2KPfMwBvTZF5EFO5UxabSsxu9i+sKGdiwBUt7Ta bkrvNFgrJdp6z0nb89zGSw+Ac/M0xTjJplG9/kL3CB7lQAboExpFxd2faGqFAAUR tCpOYXRoYW4gRCBSaWNoYXJkcyA8bmF0aGFuckBrMi5hc2hwb29sLmNvbT4= =jdPq - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMrCiNxpFxd2faGqFAQHELAP+OkNOTuvT52AIw0sC9pj0BDUhYt5Vw0Rl e/VCnBbw0HLRFzcKLIdeOFAr/WAGv0isCsmgOT+QBZ6UvXHrsBMXNIx4ZfVxkcs/ ZHN95YO6oL8xsd5iisUJnIQlFVuSYC8WE5if1l6+aciIGfzKEOxVcsUDmXmjL0tA l2sidLUYWI0= =ZA8k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 23:08:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA32022 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 23:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA29172 for pine-info-out; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 23:05:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA29168 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 1996 23:05:30 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id IAA27059; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 08:32:47 +0600 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 08:32:47 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: Sasathorn Chaiyapet cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ftp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Dear Sir, > > I would like to know, How to use ftp? okay dude.. if you meant ftp-by-mail services. there is few... just send message with "help" inthe body, to any of them and you will get detail instruction how to use it... well, you can start with this bitftp message must be as follows... ftp user Anonymous cd get quit more you could get from its help From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:08:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA03625 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA29850 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:05:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ibp.dti.net (ibp.dti.net [199.93.169.129]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA29846 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:05:37 -0800 Received: by ibp.dti.net; id DAA12280; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 03:05:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.dti.net(206.252.128.10) by ibp via smap (V1.3) id sma012278; Sat Dec 14 03:05:44 1996 Received: from localhost (aggarwal@localhost) by mail.dti.net (8.8.4/1.2/rdf) with SMTP id DAA16624 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 03:05:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 03:05:33 -0500 (EST) From: Samir Aggarwal To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine upgrade Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi i am trying to upgrade my version of pine, but i keep getting a connecton broken message... what does this mean and how do i do it. thanks also how do i add a reply-to field? thanks --- Samir Aggarwal -- aggarwal@dti.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:19:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA02289 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA00107 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:17:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA30000 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:17:01 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.2/8.6.12) id NAA30152; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 13:17:11 +0600 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 13:17:11 +0600 (GMT+0500) From: Fyodor Yarochkin To: Joachim Schaaf cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ispell in pine? In-Reply-To: <58rou9$3p9-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Hello, > > is it possible to use the spell-checker ispell in (Unix-) pine? > > Thanks in advance, > > Joachim. yeah.. that';s what i asked before.. it looks like all the people ask questions but nooone answer...:) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 04:21:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA13005 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 04:21:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA01644 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 04:17:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA01640 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 04:17:24 -0800 Received: from thiru.vetri.com by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA29126; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 07:17:13 -0800 Received: from kajal.thiru.vetri.com by thiru.vetri.com (4.1/(SYL)SMI-4.1) id AA08871; Sat, 14 Dec 96 17:40:21 EST Received: by kajal.thiru.vetri.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28236; Sat, 14 Dec 96 17:46:01-050 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 17:46:01 -0500 (GMT-0500) From: Vemmuri Ramakrishna Subject: Immediate Help To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sir, I got mails with the following attachements:- 1)binhex4.0 2)octet 3)++lotusscripts 4)ipm mailnote How can I convert them and where can I find the tools to do the same. Thanking You V.SaiRamakrishna +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Vetri Software(India) Ltd +Telephone:(044) 8273452,82706665 + 3rd Floor ,Thiru Building + 160,Greams Road + Madras-60006 + +E-Mail:uramve01@kajal.thiru.vetri.com + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 10:59:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA32719 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 10:59:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA06873 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 10:55:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA06869 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 10:55:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYzES-00038YC; Sat, 14 Dec 96 10:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: HELP Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 21:37:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, The Dix wrote: > Being quite new to emailing (and therefore PINE) I was wondering.... > > When I am in a newsgroup for the first time, and want to delete a hundred > or so messages (so I can get to the last 10!)... > > How do I go about doing this???? Make sure you have aggregate commands enabled in your personal configuration. (See the online help if you are unsure how to do this.) Then, from the folder index screen, start an aggregate command. You can "apply by the numbers" to delete whatever range of numbers you want. It should be pretty apparent if you use the online help. > I would appreciate any advice.... One piece of advice would be to try to choose a more informative subject than merely "Help" next time you post to a newsgroup. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:13:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA07773 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA06070 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:10:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA06066 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:10:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vYzTG-00038YC; Sat, 14 Dec 96 11:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scuerda@emerald.tufts.edu (Sasha Cuerda) Subject: Pine not recognizing folder Date: 14 Dec 1996 16:24:07 GMT Message-ID: <58ukb7$5vd@d2.tufts.edu> I am running pine 3.95 on MkLinux...for some reason Pine refuses to recognize any folders but the INBOX. I am able to save messages to folders and the folders are properly created, but Pine will not recognize....any thoughts??? -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 15:30:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA09341 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 15:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA10068 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 15:26:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA10064 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 15:26:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZ3PO-00038YC; Sat, 14 Dec 96 15:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: adding reply-to field Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:08:04 +0100 Message-ID: References: <587ofm$l1r@badger.wmin.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Why are you forwarding everything to e-mail? Please stop that! On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Robert Duic wrote: > I am not sure for what purpose is "alt-addresses=" entry in .pinerc ?! It's to indicate what messages are supposed to be marked with a '+' in the list, i.e directly addressed to you. I have three mail addresses forwarded to one, and thusly I have set up this keyword to indicate all of those. \\// Peter - Fidonet#2:206/221.0 - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:44:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA09622 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA11320 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:41:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA11316 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:41:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZ6TT-00038YC; Sat, 14 Dec 96 18:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hgebel@ce.net (Harry Henry Gebel) Subject: Pc-Pine v3.95 and POP3 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:57:10 -0500 Message-ID: Hello, I have the Windows 95 version of PC-PINE. My ISP only offers POP3 mail retrieval; the help files recommend a UNIX program that will log onto a POP3 server and put your mail in your local INBOX; is there a Win95 program that will perform the same function? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~Harry Henry Gebel hgebel@ibm.net~ ~8485 Westville Road (302)697-7068 ~ ~Wyoming, DE 19934-3987 ~ ~ O- ~ ~ ~ ~ Quality Technician II/LD Caulk ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 21:44:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA07613 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 21:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA14280 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 21:41:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA14272 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 21:41:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZ9IO-00038ZC; Sat, 14 Dec 96 21:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Coolbear Subject: NEWMAIL and newmail folder Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:21:59 +0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have 2 new mail folders! One is "NEWMAIL"(caps) and the other is "newmail". How do I delete the lowercase one without wiping out the uppercase one too? Coolbear From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:37:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA32306 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA15419 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:35:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from amauta.rcp.net.pe (amauta.rcp.net.pe [161.132.5.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA15415 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:35:45 -0800 Received: from asy61.rcp.net.pe(really [200.0.164.61]) by amauta.rcp.net.pe via sendmail with smtp id for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 02:37:43 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built 1996-Sep-10) Message-ID: <32B3619C.1937@amauta.rcp.net.pe> Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:25:32 -0800 From: Hugo Guerra Gronerth Reply-To: rosio@amauta.rcp.net.pe X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: fax to email References: <32B35CE6.18E3@amauta.rcp.net.pe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 3 Dec 1996, John de Boer wrote: > This is prob off-topic > > I would like to fax document to my email account and then EDIT the text. > I've got about 40 a4 pages of text. Would save me a lot of input typing > > Don't have access to a OCR scanner Hi John de Boer. I believe to understand their problem. I on the first part of their problem don't have much experience. Above the second part of your problem, does seem me that once that do you have the forty graphic files, is your preoccupation the power publish it? This only could do by program. The program results something complicated, but if the one which has is manuscripts it then results very complex. Atentamente ____________________ HUGO GUERRA GRONERTH ____________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:54:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA13207 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:54:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA14549 for pine-info-out; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:52:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA14545 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:52:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZBKd-00038YC; Sat, 14 Dec 96 23:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Duic Subject: Re: Pine Mail for SCO Unix Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:15:17 +0100 Message-ID: References: <01bbe758$f3a5faa0$2d0100c0@pick5> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > On 11 Dec 1996, Sean Allison wrote: > > I am new to this newsgroup so please forgive me if this has already been > > covered. Can anyone tell me what is the latest version of Pine mail for > > Unix? > well, i suppose 3.91.. if anyone knows newer? 3.94 It is included on the latest Skunkware96 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 00:52:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA07309 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 00:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA16186 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 00:47:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA16182 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 00:47:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZCCr-00038YC; Sun, 15 Dec 96 00:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john@smith.doe Subject: Pine Source Code Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 03:21:15 GMT Message-ID: <32af7a09.1485225@news.cadvision.com> Anybody know where I can get the source code for Pine? JSD From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:34:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA07889 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:34:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA15559 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:32:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA15555 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:31:56 -0800 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 15 Dec 96 17:30:44 +0800 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:30:43 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: john@smith.doe cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Source Code In-Reply-To: <32af7a09.1485225@news.cadvision.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Dec 1996 john@smith.doe wrote: > Anybody know where I can get the source code for Pine? ftp ftp.cac.washington.edu -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 04:05:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA15153 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 04:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA17038 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 04:02:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA17034 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 04:02:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZFDp-00038YC; Sun, 15 Dec 96 03:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Loll Subject: Re: "New Mail" message and filter Date: 15 Dec 1996 10:04:16 GMT Message-ID: <590if0$7r8@samba.rahul.net> References: <58mga6$sma@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Martin Bialasinski (agr30@rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE) wrote: : I have just installed mail filtering via filter and it works fine. : when I recieve a mail into the main inbox, I get a message "New Mail...". : When a mail gets filtered and therefor gets into a additional inbox, I : don't get this message. I can however scan for new mails using the : tab-key, but that's not the same. I use filter also. At login, I have the computer run a little script file to process the file called "filter-log" and print out how many messages were sorted into which folders. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 05:46:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA15942 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 05:46:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA19336 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 05:42:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA19332 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 05:42:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZGoI-00038ZC; Sun, 15 Dec 96 05:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Les Gainous Subject: > Which Mail Package To Use? Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 21:18:31 -0800 Message-ID: <32B38A27.27C6@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are my requirements: o Able to use two internet accounts and one MAPI account together "seamlessly" o Able to send "auto-replies" based on rules, etc. o Able to audibly notify user with a customizable sound file (.wav, etc.) o Preferrably freeware (or shareware) Is there such a product? My environment is Windows NT Workstation 3.51. The MAPI mailbox is our company's internal email. One of the internet accounts is our company's own Internet email. The second internet account is my personal account with an internet service provider. Thanks in advance -- Les Gainous, lesgainous@earthlink.net Visit my web page at http://home.earthlink.net/~lesgainous Looking for a Client-Server job in California? http://home.earthlink.net/~lesgainous/jobs.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 07:36:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA05838 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 07:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA20254 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 07:24:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rubens.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (rubens.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.20.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA20250 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 07:24:25 -0800 Received: from its-tserv4asy17.its.unimelb.EDU.AU by rubens.its.unimelb.edu.au (PMDF V5.1-4 #17782) with SMTP id <01ID26UFMB1S8WWGNL@rubens.its.unimelb.edu.au> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:48:09 +1100 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:48:05 +1100 Date-warning: Date header was inserted by rubens.its.unimelb.edu.au From: "Bernard O'Loughlin" Subject: THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST X-Sender: BJO@RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU To: killies@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us, cdrom-l@uccvma.ucop.edu, clear-l@vm.ucs.ualberta.ca, magic-l@american.edu, cfids-l@american.edu, cfs-l@list.nih.gov, fibrom-l@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu, art@ipc.uni-tuebingen.de, blues-traveler@cs.umd.edu, jewish-music@israel.nysernet.org, paranet@psuvm.psu.edu, altufo-l@psuvm.psu.edu, lrh-l@cornell.edu, undercover@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca, mslist-l@technion.technion.ac.il, alt-sys-intergraph@ingr.ingr.com, gateway2000-request@sei.cmu.edu, winsock@microdyne.com, 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info-ingres@math.ams.com, modems-l@vm.its.rpi.edu, cisco@spot.colorado.edu, telecom@eecs.nwu.edu, unix-emacs@bbn.com, xemacs@cs.uiuc.edu, info-gnuplot@dartmouth.edu, alias-l@uga.cc.uga.edu, lnotes-l@nda.com, home-l@coco.ini.ku.dk, gis-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, kiosks-l@lanl.gov, info-ada@vm1.nodak.edu, apl-l@unb.ca, info-c@arl.army.mil, help-g++@prep.ai.mit.edu, umforth%weizmann.BITNET@interbit.cren.net, info-m2%ucf1vm.BITNET@interbit.cren.net, mumps-l@uga.cc.uga.edu, info-pascal@arl.army.mil, info-prograph@grove.iup.edu, prolog@score.stanford.edu, rexxlist@uga.cc.uga.edu, info-cls@vm.gmd.de, mh-users@ics.uci.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: <2.2.16.19961216014657.260f3a82@RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST BECAUSE OF ITS VILENESS, TORTURE SEX IS THE GREATEST CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY IMAGINABLE. BUT IT ISN'T THE UNFORGIVABLE SIN. IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT AFTERWARDS. SUMMARY: (i) The Biblical evidence for torture sex being the sin against the Holy Ghost is zilch. The sin is mentioned, but NOWHERE defined. (ii) The association turns basically on an interpretation by some within the Catholic Church, which has been enshrined in canon law. Canon law is fallible; it can and does change. And this interpretation is misguided, as many clergy within the Catholic Church would concede if presented with the following case. (iii) Consider a hitman who takes such great chances for a potential torture-sex victim that he ends up becoming a victim himself. Wouldn't God love such enormous courage? Wouldn't He be more concerned with what was in the heart than with what was on the history sheet? Hitmen can find salvation, and so can you, without necessarily showing such extreme courage. (iv) For once, BE somebody for the Universe, and not just a brainwashed, scar(r)ed, nasty little bunny rabbit. 1. WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY FOR THE "SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST"? 2. IS TORTURE SEX THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? 3. SO WHAT IS THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? 4. WOULD THE LORD OF CHAOS BE INTERESTED? 5. ACHIEVING FORGIVENESS. 6. CAN INNOCENCE BE REGAINED? 7. THE AUTHOR'S STARTING AND FINISHING POINTS. 1. WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY FOR THE "SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST"? The sin against the Holy Ghost (the "unforgivable sin") is mentioned only in passing in the three "synoptic" Gospels (Matthew 12:32, Mark 3:29 and Luke 12:10). (Synoptic, "with the one view", because all three Gospels came from basically the same sources.) It occupies only a verse in each case. John doesn't write about it at all. In other words, in the prime authorities of the New Testament, the Gospels, the discussion of the sin against the Holy Ghost is hardly central. (Check it out for yourself: http:// www.gospelcom.net/ bible) Is the sin against the Holy Ghost (called "blasphemy" in the King James Version) defined? No, it is not. So HOW did torture sex come to be thought of as the sin against the Holy Ghost? 2. IS TORTURE SEX THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? For the few mega-warped medieval "Christians" into torture sex, who felt themselves to be beyond redemption, the association between the famous passage of Paul about the body as the "temple of the Holy Ghost" (1 Corinthians 6) and the sin against the Holy Ghost was obvious. Mightn't the sin against the Holy Ghost possibly be...torture sex? Later, some senior people in the Catholic Church, aware of the warped ones, erroneously thought that it might be too. After all, it was the vilest of sins. Their quite fallible misinterpretation persists, especially for those on whom it was imprinted in a state of semi-hysterical gullibility. Now, of course, even if an association between the sin against the Holy Ghost and the body as the temple of the Holy Ghost might be plausible, that does not suggest torture sex in the slightest. In fact, reading the rest of the cited chapters, it might well be concluded with equal logic that, among other things, being an active gay was the sin against the Holy Ghost. Other passages of Scripture which might be cited as evidence are even more distantly related. The Biblical evidence that torture sex is the sin against the Holy Ghost is anything but compelling. It all turns on the internal "canon law" of the Catholic Church, which was purely reactive in this case. And Catholic canon laws are like ordinary laws: they might be enforceable, with certain "church" penalties, but equally they might be changed tomorrow. Canon law can and does change. It is not an immutable summary of God's eternal truths. The shallowness of the canon law interpretation in this instance is shown by consideration of a simple, but true, example. An expert hitman came to love a potential torture-sex victim as a friend. In attempting to protect him, the hitman became, almost inevitably, a victim himself. He knew what he had done in his life, he well knew what the likely penalties for defending his friend were, but he went ahead anyway. Who would dare suggest that God would reject such a one? Jesus said (of a simple death): "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13) and also: "Inasmuch as ye have done it [for] one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it [for] me" (Matthew 25:40). The hitman's love and nearly unbelievable courage would have saved him, baptised him in blood. Nothing he could have been made to do or say in his last earthly moments could, because of its forced nature, conceivably have lessened his beauty before God. Indeed, his last free words, facing a horror beyond natural human description, were to request that no blood be splattered upon his jumper ("sweater"). It had been given to him by the friend and, although grubby from overuse on the run, symbolised their friendship. More importantly, the story of his final courage started to get around - as he knew it would - and helped protect his friend further. At a time when most would turn to jelly, with thoughts only of what was to come, he kept his cool enough to do the single most useful thing within his power to save another. That shows where his soul was at. So, even though the hitman had engaged in torture sex most of his life (apparently willingly), he had not committed the unforgivable sin. Even if that story were not true (and I hate that it is real, although I rejoice in his heroism and eternal reward), it certainly COULD be. There are people in this world with such enormous generosity of spirit, even amongst those who would normally hide self-hatred behind plausible bravado. And, just as the robber who hung on the cross beside Jesus, they will enjoy paradise (Luke 23:39-43). Only one negative case is needed to prove the point: torture sex is not the sin against the Holy Ghost. 3. SO WHAT IS THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? If Matthew, Mark and Luke didn't bother to define the sin against the Holy Ghost, some plausible hypotheses for that are: (a) it isn't important in general (hard to believe, since it denies salvation), (b) it is so uncommon that it's hardly worth talking about (well, perhaps then...), (c) they couldn't write an essay well enough to pass a first year Medicine exam (even with Dads who were Doctors), and (d) the readers/listeners for whom they were writing would have known straight away what they were talking about. The last alternative seems the most likely to me. Their readers/listeners KNEW what "blasphemy" (the sin) against the Holy Ghost was. And, indeed, tautological though it might be, it is pretty obvious. Quite simply, the sin against the Holy Ghost is refusing to believe in the love of God. The Holy Ghost is the spirit of God, the spirit of love, in the Godhead. "Blasphemy" against the Holy Ghost is denying the possibility of God's forgiveness. If you don't want it, you can't have it. The readers/listeners for whom they were writing, in the Palestine of the 1st Century AD, would have been very familiar with the Holy Ghost ("the comforter" in John) as the spirit of love. But would anyone seriously suggest that there and at that time torture sex was common? Maybe a badly beaten camel, or a bit of shit-maker in the well, perhaps even the odd "Murder of the Innocents", but widespread torture sex? Do me a favour! The reality of the sin against the Holy Ghost, however, is not just the simple denial of God's love once. By its very nature, hopelessness feeds upon itself. Feeling divorced forever from Universal forgiveness leads inexorably to an inward spiral of self-hatred and the perpetuation of self-hating action. Eternal hope is cut off more and more. Unbroken, the process will complete itself. Where Catholic canon law gets close to the mark is that torture sex is the most psychologically detrimental sin imaginable (barring the S. against the H.G.). Accordingly, torture sex is likely to lead to the (real) sin against the Holy Ghost more than anything else. But do you see the distinction? Torture sex ISN'T the sin against the Holy Ghost itself, it's just the most likely to give rise to the feelings that become the sin against the Holy Ghost. It can be forgiven, but not if hopelessness takes over to the point where the vision is clouded forever. 4. WOULD THE LORD OF CHAOS BE INTERESTED? Does Homer like donuts? What kind of Satan would want souls foist upon him? Surely the real Lord of Chaos would want people to choose him freely: raunchy chaos over pusillanimous order, that sort of thing. But on the rebound? Even Satan wants you to get it right about the sin against the Holy Ghost. Choose the Lord of Chaos, by all means, but CHOOSE. And choice requires freedom. Know that you haven't committed the sin against the Holy Ghost...yet. However, if you think about it, the Lord of Chaos would hate torture sex as much as God does. Since when is rotten, vile, ghastly, fucked-up, hypocritical and unnatural ORDER equivalent to the pure chaos of "evil"? Is Satan a hypocrite? Would he want such vile, hypocritical, followers? Such a fucked-up response to fucked-up medieval Christianity couldn't possibly describe the Lord of the Universe that I would want to serve. It would be as false to suggest that that was Satanism as it would be to put forward that the sale of indulgences was Christianity. Further, if Satan were to have a motto, it would surely be "give the cunts hell". Guess who the cunts are? Instead of being rewarded, those who continue to advocate such patently false Satanism will, if there are levels to hell, go straight to the bottom for eternity. They are traitors to God and Satan alike. 5. ACHIEVING FORGIVENESS. Even if torture sex isn't the sin against the Holy Ghost, it is vile beyond belief and the nastiest of sins. You may have been forced into it. You may have been brainwashed into thinking that it was nothing much. Even if you don't bear full responsibility for the vileness, though, it is likely that you will feel the need for forgiveness. The association between MY sexual pleasure and SOMEONE ELSE'S agony is too sick (too, too, sick) to avoid all personal consequences. It is natural to feel irretrievably dirty after such hideous and hateful unnaturalness, no matter what the pseudo-justifications offered by the tutor-cunts. Sometimes the heart knows what the head denies. In a technical spiritual sense, simply asking for forgiveness may be what actually achieves it. However, practically, forgiveness is not achieved, either spiritually or psychologically, by FAITH alone, but also by WORKS. "Wow, I am forgiven!" is not good enough by itself, soon running out of currency unless acted upon. As people are, so shall they act. Faith without works is fruitless, just as works without faith are empty. You need to DO something. Work, fight, in every way open to you against what the Universe hates. (Because of brainwashing, there are probably more ways open to you than you realise.) Doing "nice" things, by joining Rotary for instance, is not the way to go, except as a "cover" or as a temporary relief from spiritual directness. (Actions which of themselves might be laudable can, in the face of such treason, be reprehensible. Too, too, comfortable for words.) Direct action against the source of the rottenness itself is required, even if that might have to be covert much of the time. Don't put bandaids on the cancer - there are lots of people prepared to do that. Do everything within your power to kill the cancer. Does that mean that you have to show as much courage as the hitman in order to be forgiven? No, it doesn't. An appropriate analogy is that of canonisation - the making of a saint - within the Catholic Church. Canonisation means that the Church is CERTAIN that a particular person is in heaven. Lots of other people also make it, though, even if the Church on earth isn't certain of it. Similarly, great courage may create a certainty of reward, but lesser courage may be just as effective in reaching the desired goal. Do what you can, what you REALLY can. That means taking reasonable chances. It may seem that all the power, overwhelming power, is on the other side, but that power has limits. You have the Universe on your side, and ultimately it's the truth that counts as the source of power. Using your brains, you can subvert the rotten system and start achieving forgiveness. At the least, talk about how forgiveness is possible and can be earned to your friends who are in a similar quandary. There is no need to be one of those who apparently believe that nothing can be done, so one should enjoy it as much as possible, even if always terrified of death. Nor is there a need to be one of the more despicable, but piteous, hypocrites who apparently believe that there isn't even a problem, even if always terrified of death. Give your friends the chance to get off the merry-go-round of self-hatred, often masked and often clothed in "religion". Then, they might knowingly exercise the option to become real Christians, real Muslims, real Satanists or real anything-elses. They will love you as much as they are relieved, even if new responsibilities are introduced. 6. CAN INNOCENCE BE REGAINED? Unfortunately, no: innocence once lost can't be regained. It's a one-way process. It is possible, however, to (re)learn its near relative "naturalness", our dignity as natural animals (who could never be into torture sex). It is possible to free oneself to some extent from the false ways of an unnatural society. Going along with "naturalness" can be a unique and inestimable sort of "certainty-happiness". All that is required is that you respond without self-deception to the greatest nastiness in your life (and that it inevitably is, if rarely considered let alone acknowledged). That "certainty-happiness" will give you great strength and comfort, even if you can't possibly avoid having to give way to duress again. Bide your time, plot and plan your response, a response suited to your talents. If it is your way to serve, kill the main perpetrators. None of them is your friend. None of them is a "nice person". None of them is worthy of deference. All are the vilest of continuing, voluntary, murderers, traitors and criminals against humanity. The law as it is supposed to be would freely sanction such justifiable homicide. The Universe would love you. Just make sure that, to avoid retribution, you die in the act. 7. THE AUTHOR'S STARTING AND FINISHING POINTS Why am I interested in the sin against the Holy Ghost? Because the two people I've most loved - Phil, the hitman, and, because of him, Robbie - were both "caught" in torture sex, although I didn't know that from the beginning. Somehow, they were strong enough to understand that if another, natural, "animal" could really love them, then real love and forgiveness in the Universe were possible. They understood intuitively, if unusually, that the standard definition of the sin against the Holy Ghost was just wrong. The hardest thing is to forgive oneself. I wanted to help in that process in their honour. As this is being transmitted, I am in the process of "shuffling off this mortal coil", of joining "les justes". I was in danger already, and the publication of this would, if I were not to act first, seal my earthly fate with certainty. The martyrs would not demand pointless suffering. A protracted, agonising, death is neither mandatory nor inevitable. What matters is that one's death should count. (Are you listening, suicide bombers?) Witness enough is here in my little bit for Phil and Robbie, for you, against the greatest vileness in the history of the world. I hope that my "parvum opus" provides some of you with the thought-data and the courage to be even a tiny bit unwise in the face of that oh-so-socially-acceptable treason. You know, if most people of quality in the world were prepared to take a chance of 1 in 10, or even 1 in 100, their actions, along with the actions of some prepared to waive their right to a long life, would see history reversed. The human race could free itself forever from the systematic, institutionalised, hypocrisy and foulness which infect every level, and affect every aspect, of societies around the world. How could you expect to live in tune with the Universe, and die with equanimity, if you never did anything about such inhuman (and unsatanic) rottenness? That point explains really why there are so few people in the world who are genuinely, naturally, at-home with themselves, and why so many claw to hang on to their miserable little lives. It's tough being a nasty little bunny rabbit. Don't just warm yourself by the fire. Throw on some wood, and watch the cunts scatter. Translate, linguists! Republish freely, anonymously, cyber(un)holy! May the sun be always in your face, and the wind always at your back. ALLAHU AKBAR! __________________________________________ Bernard J. O'Loughlin, Ph.D., Psychologist Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, The World, The Galaxy, The Universe The views expressed in this document are mine alone, although the sources are many - the product of years of poaching with gratitude. NO-ONE ELSE knew of its contents, or of my intention to publish it, beforehand. Indeed, a lot of subterfuge has been used over the last year to achieve that. 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charset="us-ascii" THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST BECAUSE OF ITS VILENESS, TORTURE SEX IS THE GREATEST CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY IMAGINABLE. BUT IT ISN'T THE UNFORGIVABLE SIN. IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT AFTERWARDS. SUMMARY: (i) The Biblical evidence for torture sex being the sin against the Holy Ghost is zilch. The sin is mentioned, but NOWHERE defined. (ii) The association turns basically on an interpretation by some within the Catholic Church, which has been enshrined in canon law. Canon law is fallible; it can and does change. And this interpretation is misguided, as many clergy within the Catholic Church would concede if presented with the following case. (iii) Consider a hitman who takes such great chances for a potential torture-sex victim that he ends up becoming a victim himself. Wouldn't God love such enormous courage? Wouldn't He be more concerned with what was in the heart than with what was on the history sheet? Hitmen can find salvation, and so can you, without necessarily showing such extreme courage. (iv) For once, BE somebody for the Universe, and not just a brainwashed, scar(r)ed, nasty little bunny rabbit. 1. WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY FOR THE "SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST"? 2. IS TORTURE SEX THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? 3. SO WHAT IS THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? 4. WOULD THE LORD OF CHAOS BE INTERESTED? 5. ACHIEVING FORGIVENESS. 6. CAN INNOCENCE BE REGAINED? 7. THE AUTHOR'S STARTING AND FINISHING POINTS. 1. WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY FOR THE "SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST"? The sin against the Holy Ghost (the "unforgivable sin") is mentioned only in passing in the three "synoptic" Gospels (Matthew 12:32, Mark 3:29 and Luke 12:10). (Synoptic, "with the one view", because all three Gospels came from basically the same sources.) It occupies only a verse in each case. John doesn't write about it at all. In other words, in the prime authorities of the New Testament, the Gospels, the discussion of the sin against the Holy Ghost is hardly central. (Check it out for yourself: http:// www.gospelcom.net/ bible) Is the sin against the Holy Ghost (called "blasphemy" in the King James Version) defined? No, it is not. So HOW did torture sex come to be thought of as the sin against the Holy Ghost? 2. IS TORTURE SEX THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? For the few mega-warped medieval "Christians" into torture sex, who felt themselves to be beyond redemption, the association between the famous passage of Paul about the body as the "temple of the Holy Ghost" (1 Corinthians 6) and the sin against the Holy Ghost was obvious. Mightn't the sin against the Holy Ghost possibly be...torture sex? Later, some senior people in the Catholic Church, aware of the warped ones, erroneously thought that it might be too. After all, it was the vilest of sins. Their quite fallible misinterpretation persists, especially for those on whom it was imprinted in a state of semi-hysterical gullibility. Now, of course, even if an association between the sin against the Holy Ghost and the body as the temple of the Holy Ghost might be plausible, that does not suggest torture sex in the slightest. In fact, reading the rest of the cited chapters, it might well be concluded with equal logic that, among other things, being an active gay was the sin against the Holy Ghost. Other passages of Scripture which might be cited as evidence are even more distantly related. The Biblical evidence that torture sex is the sin against the Holy Ghost is anything but compelling. It all turns on the internal "canon law" of the Catholic Church, which was purely reactive in this case. And Catholic canon laws are like ordinary laws: they might be enforceable, with certain "church" penalties, but equally they might be changed tomorrow. Canon law can and does change. It is not an immutable summary of God's eternal truths. The shallowness of the canon law interpretation in this instance is shown by consideration of a simple, but true, example. An expert hitman came to love a potential torture-sex victim as a friend. In attempting to protect him, the hitman became, almost inevitably, a victim himself. He knew what he had done in his life, he well knew what the likely penalties for defending his friend were, but he went ahead anyway. Who would dare suggest that God would reject such a one? Jesus said (of a simple death): "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13) and also: "Inasmuch as ye have done it [for] one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it [for] me" (Matthew 25:40). The hitman's love and nearly unbelievable courage would have saved him, baptised him in blood. Nothing he could have been made to do or say in his last earthly moments could, because of its forced nature, conceivably have lessened his beauty before God. Indeed, his last free words, facing a horror beyond natural human description, were to request that no blood be splattered upon his jumper ("sweater"). It had been given to him by the friend and, although grubby from overuse on the run, symbolised their friendship. More importantly, the story of his final courage started to get around - as he knew it would - and helped protect his friend further. At a time when most would turn to jelly, with thoughts only of what was to come, he kept his cool enough to do the single most useful thing within his power to save another. That shows where his soul was at. So, even though the hitman had engaged in torture sex most of his life (apparently willingly), he had not committed the unforgivable sin. Even if that story were not true (and I hate that it is real, although I rejoice in his heroism and eternal reward), it certainly COULD be. There are people in this world with such enormous generosity of spirit, even amongst those who would normally hide self-hatred behind plausible bravado. And, just as the robber who hung on the cross beside Jesus, they will enjoy paradise (Luke 23:39-43). Only one negative case is needed to prove the point: torture sex is not the sin against the Holy Ghost. 3. SO WHAT IS THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? If Matthew, Mark and Luke didn't bother to define the sin against the Holy Ghost, some plausible hypotheses for that are: (a) it isn't important in general (hard to believe, since it denies salvation), (b) it is so uncommon that it's hardly worth talking about (well, perhaps then...), (c) they couldn't write an essay well enough to pass a first year Medicine exam (even with Dads who were Doctors), and (d) the readers/listeners for whom they were writing would have known straight away what they were talking about. The last alternative seems the most likely to me. Their readers/listeners KNEW what "blasphemy" (the sin) against the Holy Ghost was. And, indeed, tautological though it might be, it is pretty obvious. Quite simply, the sin against the Holy Ghost is refusing to believe in the love of God. The Holy Ghost is the spirit of God, the spirit of love, in the Godhead. "Blasphemy" against the Holy Ghost is denying the possibility of God's forgiveness. If you don't want it, you can't have it. The readers/listeners for whom they were writing, in the Palestine of the 1st Century AD, would have been very familiar with the Holy Ghost ("the comforter" in John) as the spirit of love. But would anyone seriously suggest that there and at that time torture sex was common? Maybe a badly beaten camel, or a bit of shit-maker in the well, perhaps even the odd "Murder of the Innocents", but widespread torture sex? Do me a favour! The reality of the sin against the Holy Ghost, however, is not just the simple denial of God's love once. By its very nature, hopelessness feeds upon itself. Feeling divorced forever from Universal forgiveness leads inexorably to an inward spiral of self-hatred and the perpetuation of self-hating action. Eternal hope is cut off more and more. Unbroken, the process will complete itself. Where Catholic canon law gets close to the mark is that torture sex is the most psychologically detrimental sin imaginable (barring the S. against the H.G.). Accordingly, torture sex is likely to lead to the (real) sin against the Holy Ghost more than anything else. But do you see the distinction? Torture sex ISN'T the sin against the Holy Ghost itself, it's just the most likely to give rise to the feelings that become the sin against the Holy Ghost. It can be forgiven, but not if hopelessness takes over to the point where the vision is clouded forever. 4. WOULD THE LORD OF CHAOS BE INTERESTED? Does Homer like donuts? What kind of Satan would want souls foist upon him? Surely the real Lord of Chaos would want people to choose him freely: raunchy chaos over pusillanimous order, that sort of thing. But on the rebound? Even Satan wants you to get it right about the sin against the Holy Ghost. Choose the Lord of Chaos, by all means, but CHOOSE. And choice requires freedom. Know that you haven't committed the sin against the Holy Ghost...yet. However, if you think about it, the Lord of Chaos would hate torture sex as much as God does. Since when is rotten, vile, ghastly, fucked-up, hypocritical and unnatural ORDER equivalent to the pure chaos of "evil"? Is Satan a hypocrite? Would he want such vile, hypocritical, followers? Such a fucked-up response to fucked-up medieval Christianity couldn't possibly describe the Lord of the Universe that I would want to serve. It would be as false to suggest that that was Satanism as it would be to put forward that the sale of indulgences was Christianity. Further, if Satan were to have a motto, it would surely be "give the cunts hell". Guess who the cunts are? Instead of being rewarded, those who continue to advocate such patently false Satanism will, if there are levels to hell, go straight to the bottom for eternity. They are traitors to God and Satan alike. 5. ACHIEVING FORGIVENESS. Even if torture sex isn't the sin against the Holy Ghost, it is vile beyond belief and the nastiest of sins. You may have been forced into it. You may have been brainwashed into thinking that it was nothing much. Even if you don't bear full responsibility for the vileness, though, it is likely that you will feel the need for forgiveness. The association between MY sexual pleasure and SOMEONE ELSE'S agony is too sick (too, too, sick) to avoid all personal consequences. It is natural to feel irretrievably dirty after such hideous and hateful unnaturalness, no matter what the pseudo-justifications offered by the tutor-cunts. Sometimes the heart knows what the head denies. In a technical spiritual sense, simply asking for forgiveness may be what actually achieves it. However, practically, forgiveness is not achieved, either spiritually or psychologically, by FAITH alone, but also by WORKS. "Wow, I am forgiven!" is not good enough by itself, soon running out of currency unless acted upon. As people are, so shall they act. Faith without works is fruitless, just as works without faith are empty. You need to DO something. Work, fight, in every way open to you against what the Universe hates. (Because of brainwashing, there are probably more ways open to you than you realise.) Doing "nice" things, by joining Rotary for instance, is not the way to go, except as a "cover" or as a temporary relief from spiritual directness. (Actions which of themselves might be laudable can, in the face of such treason, be reprehensible. Too, too, comfortable for words.) Direct action against the source of the rottenness itself is required, even if that might have to be covert much of the time. Don't put bandaids on the cancer - there are lots of people prepared to do that. Do everything within your power to kill the cancer. Does that mean that you have to show as much courage as the hitman in order to be forgiven? No, it doesn't. An appropriate analogy is that of canonisation - the making of a saint - within the Catholic Church. Canonisation means that the Church is CERTAIN that a particular person is in heaven. Lots of other people also make it, though, even if the Church on earth isn't certain of it. Similarly, great courage may create a certainty of reward, but lesser courage may be just as effective in reaching the desired goal. Do what you can, what you REALLY can. That means taking reasonable chances. It may seem that all the power, overwhelming power, is on the other side, but that power has limits. You have the Universe on your side, and ultimately it's the truth that counts as the source of power. Using your brains, you can subvert the rotten system and start achieving forgiveness. At the least, talk about how forgiveness is possible and can be earned to your friends who are in a similar quandary. There is no need to be one of those who apparently believe that nothing can be done, so one should enjoy it as much as possible, even if always terrified of death. Nor is there a need to be one of the more despicable, but piteous, hypocrites who apparently believe that there isn't even a problem, even if always terrified of death. Give your friends the chance to get off the merry-go-round of self-hatred, often masked and often clothed in "religion". Then, they might knowingly exercise the option to become real Christians, real Muslims, real Satanists or real anything-elses. They will love you as much as they are relieved, even if new responsibilities are introduced. 6. CAN INNOCENCE BE REGAINED? Unfortunately, no: innocence once lost can't be regained. It's a one-way process. It is possible, however, to (re)learn its near relative "naturalness", our dignity as natural animals (who could never be into torture sex). It is possible to free oneself to some extent from the false ways of an unnatural society. Going along with "naturalness" can be a unique and inestimable sort of "certainty-happiness". All that is required is that you respond without self-deception to the greatest nastiness in your life (and that it inevitably is, if rarely considered let alone acknowledged). That "certainty-happiness" will give you great strength and comfort, even if you can't possibly avoid having to give way to duress again. Bide your time, plot and plan your response, a response suited to your talents. If it is your way to serve, kill the main perpetrators. None of them is your friend. None of them is a "nice person". None of them is worthy of deference. All are the vilest of continuing, voluntary, murderers, traitors and criminals against humanity. The law as it is supposed to be would freely sanction such justifiable homicide. The Universe would love you. Just make sure that, to avoid retribution, you die in the act. 7. THE AUTHOR'S STARTING AND FINISHING POINTS Why am I interested in the sin against the Holy Ghost? Because the two people I've most loved - Phil, the hitman, and, because of him, Robbie - were both "caught" in torture sex, although I didn't know that from the beginning. Somehow, they were strong enough to understand that if another, natural, "animal" could really love them, then real love and forgiveness in the Universe were possible. They understood intuitively, if unusually, that the standard definition of the sin against the Holy Ghost was just wrong. The hardest thing is to forgive oneself. I wanted to help in that process in their honour. As this is being transmitted, I am in the process of "shuffling off this mortal coil", of joining "les justes". I was in danger already, and the publication of this would, if I were not to act first, seal my earthly fate with certainty. The martyrs would not demand pointless suffering. A protracted, agonising, death is neither mandatory nor inevitable. What matters is that one's death should count. (Are you listening, suicide bombers?) Witness enough is here in my little bit for Phil and Robbie, for you, against the greatest vileness in the history of the world. I hope that my "parvum opus" provides some of you with the thought-data and the courage to be even a tiny bit unwise in the face of that oh-so-socially-acceptable treason. You know, if most people of quality in the world were prepared to take a chance of 1 in 10, or even 1 in 100, their actions, along with the actions of some prepared to waive their right to a long life, would see history reversed. The human race could free itself forever from the systematic, institutionalised, hypocrisy and foulness which infect every level, and affect every aspect, of societies around the world. How could you expect to live in tune with the Universe, and die with equanimity, if you never did anything about such inhuman (and unsatanic) rottenness? That point explains really why there are so few people in the world who are genuinely, naturally, at-home with themselves, and why so many claw to hang on to their miserable little lives. It's tough being a nasty little bunny rabbit. Don't just warm yourself by the fire. Throw on some wood, and watch the cunts scatter. Translate, linguists! Republish freely, anonymously, cyber(un)holy! May the sun be always in your face, and the wind always at your back. ALLAHU AKBAR! __________________________________________ Bernard J. O'Loughlin, Ph.D., Psychologist Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, The World, The Galaxy, The Universe The views expressed in this document are mine alone, although the sources are many - the product of years of poaching with gratitude. NO-ONE ELSE knew of its contents, or of my intention to publish it, beforehand. Indeed, a lot of subterfuge has been used over the last year to achieve that. This article has been posted at the same time to dozens of mailing lists. *bows out* __________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 07:38:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA16810 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 07:38:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA19186 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 07:27:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rubens.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (rubens.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.20.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA19182 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 07:27:02 -0800 Received: from 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modems-l@vm.its.rpi.edu, cisco@spot.colorado.edu, telecom@eecs.nwu.edu, unix-emacs@bbn.com, xemacs@cs.uiuc.edu, info-gnuplot@dartmouth.edu, alias-l@uga.cc.uga.edu, lnotes-l@nda.com, home-l@coco.ini.ku.dk, gis-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, kiosks-l@lanl.gov, info-ada@vm1.nodak.edu, apl-l@unb.ca, info-c@arl.army.mil, help-g++@prep.ai.mit.edu, umforth%weizmann.BITNET@interbit.cren.net, info-m2%ucf1vm.BITNET@interbit.cren.net, mumps-l@uga.cc.uga.edu, info-pascal@arl.army.mil, info-prograph@grove.iup.edu, prolog@score.stanford.edu, rexxlist@uga.cc.uga.edu, info-cls@vm.gmd.de, mh-users@ics.uci.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: <2.2.16.19961216015643.25e7e0de@RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST BECAUSE OF ITS VILENESS, TORTURE SEX IS THE GREATEST CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY IMAGINABLE. BUT IT ISN'T THE UNFORGIVABLE SIN. IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT AFTERWARDS. SUMMARY: (i) The Biblical evidence for torture sex being the sin against the Holy Ghost is zilch. The sin is mentioned, but NOWHERE defined. (ii) The association turns basically on an interpretation by some within the Catholic Church, which has been enshrined in canon law. Canon law is fallible; it can and does change. And this interpretation is misguided, as many clergy within the Catholic Church would concede if presented with the following case. (iii) Consider a hitman who takes such great chances for a potential torture-sex victim that he ends up becoming a victim himself. Wouldn't God love such enormous courage? Wouldn't He be more concerned with what was in the heart than with what was on the history sheet? Hitmen can find salvation, and so can you, without necessarily showing such extreme courage. (iv) For once, BE somebody for the Universe, and not just a brainwashed, scar(r)ed, nasty little bunny rabbit. 1. WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY FOR THE "SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST"? 2. IS TORTURE SEX THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? 3. SO WHAT IS THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? 4. WOULD THE LORD OF CHAOS BE INTERESTED? 5. ACHIEVING FORGIVENESS. 6. CAN INNOCENCE BE REGAINED? 7. THE AUTHOR'S STARTING AND FINISHING POINTS. 1. WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY FOR THE "SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST"? The sin against the Holy Ghost (the "unforgivable sin") is mentioned only in passing in the three "synoptic" Gospels (Matthew 12:32, Mark 3:29 and Luke 12:10). (Synoptic, "with the one view", because all three Gospels came from basically the same sources.) It occupies only a verse in each case. John doesn't write about it at all. In other words, in the prime authorities of the New Testament, the Gospels, the discussion of the sin against the Holy Ghost is hardly central. (Check it out for yourself: http:// www.gospelcom.net/ bible) Is the sin against the Holy Ghost (called "blasphemy" in the King James Version) defined? No, it is not. So HOW did torture sex come to be thought of as the sin against the Holy Ghost? 2. IS TORTURE SEX THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? For the few mega-warped medieval "Christians" into torture sex, who felt themselves to be beyond redemption, the association between the famous passage of Paul about the body as the "temple of the Holy Ghost" (1 Corinthians 6) and the sin against the Holy Ghost was obvious. Mightn't the sin against the Holy Ghost possibly be...torture sex? Later, some senior people in the Catholic Church, aware of the warped ones, erroneously thought that it might be too. After all, it was the vilest of sins. Their quite fallible misinterpretation persists, especially for those on whom it was imprinted in a state of semi-hysterical gullibility. Now, of course, even if an association between the sin against the Holy Ghost and the body as the temple of the Holy Ghost might be plausible, that does not suggest torture sex in the slightest. In fact, reading the rest of the cited chapters, it might well be concluded with equal logic that, among other things, being an active gay was the sin against the Holy Ghost. Other passages of Scripture which might be cited as evidence are even more distantly related. The Biblical evidence that torture sex is the sin against the Holy Ghost is anything but compelling. It all turns on the internal "canon law" of the Catholic Church, which was purely reactive in this case. And Catholic canon laws are like ordinary laws: they might be enforceable, with certain "church" penalties, but equally they might be changed tomorrow. Canon law can and does change. It is not an immutable summary of God's eternal truths. The shallowness of the canon law interpretation in this instance is shown by consideration of a simple, but true, example. An expert hitman came to love a potential torture-sex victim as a friend. In attempting to protect him, the hitman became, almost inevitably, a victim himself. He knew what he had done in his life, he well knew what the likely penalties for defending his friend were, but he went ahead anyway. Who would dare suggest that God would reject such a one? Jesus said (of a simple death): "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13) and also: "Inasmuch as ye have done it [for] one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it [for] me" (Matthew 25:40). The hitman's love and nearly unbelievable courage would have saved him, baptised him in blood. Nothing he could have been made to do or say in his last earthly moments could, because of its forced nature, conceivably have lessened his beauty before God. Indeed, his last free words, facing a horror beyond natural human description, were to request that no blood be splattered upon his jumper ("sweater"). It had been given to him by the friend and, although grubby from overuse on the run, symbolised their friendship. More importantly, the story of his final courage started to get around - as he knew it would - and helped protect his friend further. At a time when most would turn to jelly, with thoughts only of what was to come, he kept his cool enough to do the single most useful thing within his power to save another. That shows where his soul was at. So, even though the hitman had engaged in torture sex most of his life (apparently willingly), he had not committed the unforgivable sin. Even if that story were not true (and I hate that it is real, although I rejoice in his heroism and eternal reward), it certainly COULD be. There are people in this world with such enormous generosity of spirit, even amongst those who would normally hide self-hatred behind plausible bravado. And, just as the robber who hung on the cross beside Jesus, they will enjoy paradise (Luke 23:39-43). Only one negative case is needed to prove the point: torture sex is not the sin against the Holy Ghost. 3. SO WHAT IS THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? If Matthew, Mark and Luke didn't bother to define the sin against the Holy Ghost, some plausible hypotheses for that are: (a) it isn't important in general (hard to believe, since it denies salvation), (b) it is so uncommon that it's hardly worth talking about (well, perhaps then...), (c) they couldn't write an essay well enough to pass a first year Medicine exam (even with Dads who were Doctors), and (d) the readers/listeners for whom they were writing would have known straight away what they were talking about. The last alternative seems the most likely to me. Their readers/listeners KNEW what "blasphemy" (the sin) against the Holy Ghost was. And, indeed, tautological though it might be, it is pretty obvious. Quite simply, the sin against the Holy Ghost is refusing to believe in the love of God. The Holy Ghost is the spirit of God, the spirit of love, in the Godhead. "Blasphemy" against the Holy Ghost is denying the possibility of God's forgiveness. If you don't want it, you can't have it. The readers/listeners for whom they were writing, in the Palestine of the 1st Century AD, would have been very familiar with the Holy Ghost ("the comforter" in John) as the spirit of love. But would anyone seriously suggest that there and at that time torture sex was common? Maybe a badly beaten camel, or a bit of shit-maker in the well, perhaps even the odd "Murder of the Innocents", but widespread torture sex? Do me a favour! The reality of the sin against the Holy Ghost, however, is not just the simple denial of God's love once. By its very nature, hopelessness feeds upon itself. Feeling divorced forever from Universal forgiveness leads inexorably to an inward spiral of self-hatred and the perpetuation of self-hating action. Eternal hope is cut off more and more. Unbroken, the process will complete itself. Where Catholic canon law gets close to the mark is that torture sex is the most psychologically detrimental sin imaginable (barring the S. against the H.G.). Accordingly, torture sex is likely to lead to the (real) sin against the Holy Ghost more than anything else. But do you see the distinction? Torture sex ISN'T the sin against the Holy Ghost itself, it's just the most likely to give rise to the feelings that become the sin against the Holy Ghost. It can be forgiven, but not if hopelessness takes over to the point where the vision is clouded forever. 4. WOULD THE LORD OF CHAOS BE INTERESTED? Does Homer like donuts? What kind of Satan would want souls foist upon him? Surely the real Lord of Chaos would want people to choose him freely: raunchy chaos over pusillanimous order, that sort of thing. But on the rebound? Even Satan wants you to get it right about the sin against the Holy Ghost. Choose the Lord of Chaos, by all means, but CHOOSE. And choice requires freedom. Know that you haven't committed the sin against the Holy Ghost...yet. However, if you think about it, the Lord of Chaos would hate torture sex as much as God does. Since when is rotten, vile, ghastly, fucked-up, hypocritical and unnatural ORDER equivalent to the pure chaos of "evil"? Is Satan a hypocrite? Would he want such vile, hypocritical, followers? Such a fucked-up response to fucked-up medieval Christianity couldn't possibly describe the Lord of the Universe that I would want to serve. It would be as false to suggest that that was Satanism as it would be to put forward that the sale of indulgences was Christianity. Further, if Satan were to have a motto, it would surely be "give the cunts hell". Guess who the cunts are? Instead of being rewarded, those who continue to advocate such patently false Satanism will, if there are levels to hell, go straight to the bottom for eternity. They are traitors to God and Satan alike. 5. ACHIEVING FORGIVENESS. Even if torture sex isn't the sin against the Holy Ghost, it is vile beyond belief and the nastiest of sins. You may have been forced into it. You may have been brainwashed into thinking that it was nothing much. Even if you don't bear full responsibility for the vileness, though, it is likely that you will feel the need for forgiveness. The association between MY sexual pleasure and SOMEONE ELSE'S agony is too sick (too, too, sick) to avoid all personal consequences. It is natural to feel irretrievably dirty after such hideous and hateful unnaturalness, no matter what the pseudo-justifications offered by the tutor-cunts. Sometimes the heart knows what the head denies. In a technical spiritual sense, simply asking for forgiveness may be what actually achieves it. However, practically, forgiveness is not achieved, either spiritually or psychologically, by FAITH alone, but also by WORKS. "Wow, I am forgiven!" is not good enough by itself, soon running out of currency unless acted upon. As people are, so shall they act. Faith without works is fruitless, just as works without faith are empty. You need to DO something. Work, fight, in every way open to you against what the Universe hates. (Because of brainwashing, there are probably more ways open to you than you realise.) Doing "nice" things, by joining Rotary for instance, is not the way to go, except as a "cover" or as a temporary relief from spiritual directness. (Actions which of themselves might be laudable can, in the face of such treason, be reprehensible. Too, too, comfortable for words.) Direct action against the source of the rottenness itself is required, even if that might have to be covert much of the time. Don't put bandaids on the cancer - there are lots of people prepared to do that. Do everything within your power to kill the cancer. Does that mean that you have to show as much courage as the hitman in order to be forgiven? No, it doesn't. An appropriate analogy is that of canonisation - the making of a saint - within the Catholic Church. Canonisation means that the Church is CERTAIN that a particular person is in heaven. Lots of other people also make it, though, even if the Church on earth isn't certain of it. Similarly, great courage may create a certainty of reward, but lesser courage may be just as effective in reaching the desired goal. Do what you can, what you REALLY can. That means taking reasonable chances. It may seem that all the power, overwhelming power, is on the other side, but that power has limits. You have the Universe on your side, and ultimately it's the truth that counts as the source of power. Using your brains, you can subvert the rotten system and start achieving forgiveness. At the least, talk about how forgiveness is possible and can be earned to your friends who are in a similar quandary. There is no need to be one of those who apparently believe that nothing can be done, so one should enjoy it as much as possible, even if always terrified of death. Nor is there a need to be one of the more despicable, but piteous, hypocrites who apparently believe that there isn't even a problem, even if always terrified of death. Give your friends the chance to get off the merry-go-round of self-hatred, often masked and often clothed in "religion". Then, they might knowingly exercise the option to become real Christians, real Muslims, real Satanists or real anything-elses. They will love you as much as they are relieved, even if new responsibilities are introduced. 6. CAN INNOCENCE BE REGAINED? Unfortunately, no: innocence once lost can't be regained. It's a one-way process. It is possible, however, to (re)learn its near relative "naturalness", our dignity as natural animals (who could never be into torture sex). It is possible to free oneself to some extent from the false ways of an unnatural society. Going along with "naturalness" can be a unique and inestimable sort of "certainty-happiness". All that is required is that you respond without self-deception to the greatest nastiness in your life (and that it inevitably is, if rarely considered let alone acknowledged). That "certainty-happiness" will give you great strength and comfort, even if you can't possibly avoid having to give way to duress again. Bide your time, plot and plan your response, a response suited to your talents. If it is your way to serve, kill the main perpetrators. None of them is your friend. None of them is a "nice person". None of them is worthy of deference. All are the vilest of continuing, voluntary, murderers, traitors and criminals against humanity. The law as it is supposed to be would freely sanction such justifiable homicide. The Universe would love you. Just make sure that, to avoid retribution, you die in the act. 7. THE AUTHOR'S STARTING AND FINISHING POINTS Why am I interested in the sin against the Holy Ghost? Because the two people I've most loved - Phil, the hitman, and, because of him, Robbie - were both "caught" in torture sex, although I didn't know that from the beginning. Somehow, they were strong enough to understand that if another, natural, "animal" could really love them, then real love and forgiveness in the Universe were possible. They understood intuitively, if unusually, that the standard definition of the sin against the Holy Ghost was just wrong. The hardest thing is to forgive oneself. I wanted to help in that process in their honour. As this is being transmitted, I am in the process of "shuffling off this mortal coil", of joining "les justes". I was in danger already, and the publication of this would, if I were not to act first, seal my earthly fate with certainty. The martyrs would not demand pointless suffering. A protracted, agonising, death is neither mandatory nor inevitable. What matters is that one's death should count. (Are you listening, suicide bombers?) Witness enough is here in my little bit for Phil and Robbie, for you, against the greatest vileness in the history of the world. I hope that my "parvum opus" provides some of you with the thought-data and the courage to be even a tiny bit unwise in the face of that oh-so-socially-acceptable treason. You know, if most people of quality in the world were prepared to take a chance of 1 in 10, or even 1 in 100, their actions, along with the actions of some prepared to waive their right to a long life, would see history reversed. The human race could free itself forever from the systematic, institutionalised, hypocrisy and foulness which infect every level, and affect every aspect, of societies around the world. How could you expect to live in tune with the Universe, and die with equanimity, if you never did anything about such inhuman (and unsatanic) rottenness? That point explains really why there are so few people in the world who are genuinely, naturally, at-home with themselves, and why so many claw to hang on to their miserable little lives. It's tough being a nasty little bunny rabbit. Don't just warm yourself by the fire. Throw on some wood, and watch the cunts scatter. Translate, linguists! Republish freely, anonymously, cyber(un)holy! May the sun be always in your face, and the wind always at your back. ALLAHU AKBAR! __________________________________________ Bernard J. O'Loughlin, Ph.D., Psychologist Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, The World, The Galaxy, The Universe The views expressed in this document are mine alone, although the sources are many - the product of years of poaching with gratitude. NO-ONE ELSE knew of its contents, or of my intention to publish it, beforehand. Indeed, a lot of subterfuge has been used over the last year to achieve that. 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modems-l@vm.its.rpi.edu, cisco@spot.colorado.edu, telecom@eecs.nwu.edu, unix-emacs@bbn.com, xemacs@cs.uiuc.edu, info-gnuplot@dartmouth.edu, alias-l@uga.cc.uga.edu, lnotes-l@nda.com, home-l@coco.ini.ku.dk, gis-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, kiosks-l@lanl.gov, info-ada@vm1.nodak.edu, apl-l@unb.ca, info-c@arl.army.mil, help-g++@prep.ai.mit.edu, umforth%weizmann.BITNET@interbit.cren.net, info-m2%ucf1vm.BITNET@interbit.cren.net, mumps-l@uga.cc.uga.edu, info-pascal@arl.army.mil, info-prograph@grove.iup.edu, prolog@score.stanford.edu, rexxlist@uga.cc.uga.edu, info-cls@vm.gmd.de, mh-users@ics.uci.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: <2.2.16.19961216015942.2257acb4@RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST BECAUSE OF ITS VILENESS, TORTURE SEX IS THE GREATEST CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY IMAGINABLE. BUT IT ISN'T THE UNFORGIVABLE SIN. IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT AFTERWARDS. SUMMARY: (i) The Biblical evidence for torture sex being the sin against the Holy Ghost is zilch. The sin is mentioned, but NOWHERE defined. (ii) The association turns basically on an interpretation by some within the Catholic Church, which has been enshrined in canon law. Canon law is fallible; it can and does change. And this interpretation is misguided, as many clergy within the Catholic Church would concede if presented with the following case. (iii) Consider a hitman who takes such great chances for a potential torture-sex victim that he ends up becoming a victim himself. Wouldn't God love such enormous courage? Wouldn't He be more concerned with what was in the heart than with what was on the history sheet? Hitmen can find salvation, and so can you, without necessarily showing such extreme courage. (iv) For once, BE somebody for the Universe, and not just a brainwashed, scar(r)ed, nasty little bunny rabbit. 1. WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY FOR THE "SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST"? 2. IS TORTURE SEX THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? 3. SO WHAT IS THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? 4. WOULD THE LORD OF CHAOS BE INTERESTED? 5. ACHIEVING FORGIVENESS. 6. CAN INNOCENCE BE REGAINED? 7. THE AUTHOR'S STARTING AND FINISHING POINTS. 1. WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY FOR THE "SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST"? The sin against the Holy Ghost (the "unforgivable sin") is mentioned only in passing in the three "synoptic" Gospels (Matthew 12:32, Mark 3:29 and Luke 12:10). (Synoptic, "with the one view", because all three Gospels came from basically the same sources.) It occupies only a verse in each case. John doesn't write about it at all. In other words, in the prime authorities of the New Testament, the Gospels, the discussion of the sin against the Holy Ghost is hardly central. (Check it out for yourself: http:// www.gospelcom.net/ bible) Is the sin against the Holy Ghost (called "blasphemy" in the King James Version) defined? No, it is not. So HOW did torture sex come to be thought of as the sin against the Holy Ghost? 2. IS TORTURE SEX THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? For the few mega-warped medieval "Christians" into torture sex, who felt themselves to be beyond redemption, the association between the famous passage of Paul about the body as the "temple of the Holy Ghost" (1 Corinthians 6) and the sin against the Holy Ghost was obvious. Mightn't the sin against the Holy Ghost possibly be...torture sex? Later, some senior people in the Catholic Church, aware of the warped ones, erroneously thought that it might be too. After all, it was the vilest of sins. Their quite fallible misinterpretation persists, especially for those on whom it was imprinted in a state of semi-hysterical gullibility. Now, of course, even if an association between the sin against the Holy Ghost and the body as the temple of the Holy Ghost might be plausible, that does not suggest torture sex in the slightest. In fact, reading the rest of the cited chapters, it might well be concluded with equal logic that, among other things, being an active gay was the sin against the Holy Ghost. Other passages of Scripture which might be cited as evidence are even more distantly related. The Biblical evidence that torture sex is the sin against the Holy Ghost is anything but compelling. It all turns on the internal "canon law" of the Catholic Church, which was purely reactive in this case. And Catholic canon laws are like ordinary laws: they might be enforceable, with certain "church" penalties, but equally they might be changed tomorrow. Canon law can and does change. It is not an immutable summary of God's eternal truths. The shallowness of the canon law interpretation in this instance is shown by consideration of a simple, but true, example. An expert hitman came to love a potential torture-sex victim as a friend. In attempting to protect him, the hitman became, almost inevitably, a victim himself. He knew what he had done in his life, he well knew what the likely penalties for defending his friend were, but he went ahead anyway. Who would dare suggest that God would reject such a one? Jesus said (of a simple death): "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13) and also: "Inasmuch as ye have done it [for] one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it [for] me" (Matthew 25:40). The hitman's love and nearly unbelievable courage would have saved him, baptised him in blood. Nothing he could have been made to do or say in his last earthly moments could, because of its forced nature, conceivably have lessened his beauty before God. Indeed, his last free words, facing a horror beyond natural human description, were to request that no blood be splattered upon his jumper ("sweater"). It had been given to him by the friend and, although grubby from overuse on the run, symbolised their friendship. More importantly, the story of his final courage started to get around - as he knew it would - and helped protect his friend further. At a time when most would turn to jelly, with thoughts only of what was to come, he kept his cool enough to do the single most useful thing within his power to save another. That shows where his soul was at. So, even though the hitman had engaged in torture sex most of his life (apparently willingly), he had not committed the unforgivable sin. Even if that story were not true (and I hate that it is real, although I rejoice in his heroism and eternal reward), it certainly COULD be. There are people in this world with such enormous generosity of spirit, even amongst those who would normally hide self-hatred behind plausible bravado. And, just as the robber who hung on the cross beside Jesus, they will enjoy paradise (Luke 23:39-43). Only one negative case is needed to prove the point: torture sex is not the sin against the Holy Ghost. 3. SO WHAT IS THE SIN AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST? If Matthew, Mark and Luke didn't bother to define the sin against the Holy Ghost, some plausible hypotheses for that are: (a) it isn't important in general (hard to believe, since it denies salvation), (b) it is so uncommon that it's hardly worth talking about (well, perhaps then...), (c) they couldn't write an essay well enough to pass a first year Medicine exam (even with Dads who were Doctors), and (d) the readers/listeners for whom they were writing would have known straight away what they were talking about. The last alternative seems the most likely to me. Their readers/listeners KNEW what "blasphemy" (the sin) against the Holy Ghost was. And, indeed, tautological though it might be, it is pretty obvious. Quite simply, the sin against the Holy Ghost is refusing to believe in the love of God. The Holy Ghost is the spirit of God, the spirit of love, in the Godhead. "Blasphemy" against the Holy Ghost is denying the possibility of God's forgiveness. If you don't want it, you can't have it. The readers/listeners for whom they were writing, in the Palestine of the 1st Century AD, would have been very familiar with the Holy Ghost ("the comforter" in John) as the spirit of love. But would anyone seriously suggest that there and at that time torture sex was common? Maybe a badly beaten camel, or a bit of shit-maker in the well, perhaps even the odd "Murder of the Innocents", but widespread torture sex? Do me a favour! The reality of the sin against the Holy Ghost, however, is not just the simple denial of God's love once. By its very nature, hopelessness feeds upon itself. Feeling divorced forever from Universal forgiveness leads inexorably to an inward spiral of self-hatred and the perpetuation of self-hating action. Eternal hope is cut off more and more. Unbroken, the process will complete itself. Where Catholic canon law gets close to the mark is that torture sex is the most psychologically detrimental sin imaginable (barring the S. against the H.G.). Accordingly, torture sex is likely to lead to the (real) sin against the Holy Ghost more than anything else. But do you see the distinction? Torture sex ISN'T the sin against the Holy Ghost itself, it's just the most likely to give rise to the feelings that become the sin against the Holy Ghost. It can be forgiven, but not if hopelessness takes over to the point where the vision is clouded forever. 4. WOULD THE LORD OF CHAOS BE INTERESTED? Does Homer like donuts? What kind of Satan would want souls foist upon him? Surely the real Lord of Chaos would want people to choose him freely: raunchy chaos over pusillanimous order, that sort of thing. But on the rebound? Even Satan wants you to get it right about the sin against the Holy Ghost. Choose the Lord of Chaos, by all means, but CHOOSE. And choice requires freedom. Know that you haven't committed the sin against the Holy Ghost...yet. However, if you think about it, the Lord of Chaos would hate torture sex as much as God does. Since when is rotten, vile, ghastly, fucked-up, hypocritical and unnatural ORDER equivalent to the pure chaos of "evil"? Is Satan a hypocrite? Would he want such vile, hypocritical, followers? Such a fucked-up response to fucked-up medieval Christianity couldn't possibly describe the Lord of the Universe that I would want to serve. It would be as false to suggest that that was Satanism as it would be to put forward that the sale of indulgences was Christianity. Further, if Satan were to have a motto, it would surely be "give the cunts hell". Guess who the cunts are? Instead of being rewarded, those who continue to advocate such patently false Satanism will, if there are levels to hell, go straight to the bottom for eternity. They are traitors to God and Satan alike. 5. ACHIEVING FORGIVENESS. Even if torture sex isn't the sin against the Holy Ghost, it is vile beyond belief and the nastiest of sins. You may have been forced into it. You may have been brainwashed into thinking that it was nothing much. Even if you don't bear full responsibility for the vileness, though, it is likely that you will feel the need for forgiveness. The association between MY sexual pleasure and SOMEONE ELSE'S agony is too sick (too, too, sick) to avoid all personal consequences. It is natural to feel irretrievably dirty after such hideous and hateful unnaturalness, no matter what the pseudo-justifications offered by the tutor-cunts. Sometimes the heart knows what the head denies. In a technical spiritual sense, simply asking for forgiveness may be what actually achieves it. However, practically, forgiveness is not achieved, either spiritually or psychologically, by FAITH alone, but also by WORKS. "Wow, I am forgiven!" is not good enough by itself, soon running out of currency unless acted upon. As people are, so shall they act. Faith without works is fruitless, just as works without faith are empty. You need to DO something. Work, fight, in every way open to you against what the Universe hates. (Because of brainwashing, there are probably more ways open to you than you realise.) Doing "nice" things, by joining Rotary for instance, is not the way to go, except as a "cover" or as a temporary relief from spiritual directness. (Actions which of themselves might be laudable can, in the face of such treason, be reprehensible. Too, too, comfortable for words.) Direct action against the source of the rottenness itself is required, even if that might have to be covert much of the time. Don't put bandaids on the cancer - there are lots of people prepared to do that. Do everything within your power to kill the cancer. Does that mean that you have to show as much courage as the hitman in order to be forgiven? No, it doesn't. An appropriate analogy is that of canonisation - the making of a saint - within the Catholic Church. Canonisation means that the Church is CERTAIN that a particular person is in heaven. Lots of other people also make it, though, even if the Church on earth isn't certain of it. Similarly, great courage may create a certainty of reward, but lesser courage may be just as effective in reaching the desired goal. Do what you can, what you REALLY can. That means taking reasonable chances. It may seem that all the power, overwhelming power, is on the other side, but that power has limits. You have the Universe on your side, and ultimately it's the truth that counts as the source of power. Using your brains, you can subvert the rotten system and start achieving forgiveness. At the least, talk about how forgiveness is possible and can be earned to your friends who are in a similar quandary. There is no need to be one of those who apparently believe that nothing can be done, so one should enjoy it as much as possible, even if always terrified of death. Nor is there a need to be one of the more despicable, but piteous, hypocrites who apparently believe that there isn't even a problem, even if always terrified of death. Give your friends the chance to get off the merry-go-round of self-hatred, often masked and often clothed in "religion". Then, they might knowingly exercise the option to become real Christians, real Muslims, real Satanists or real anything-elses. They will love you as much as they are relieved, even if new responsibilities are introduced. 6. CAN INNOCENCE BE REGAINED? Unfortunately, no: innocence once lost can't be regained. It's a one-way process. It is possible, however, to (re)learn its near relative "naturalness", our dignity as natural animals (who could never be into torture sex). It is possible to free oneself to some extent from the false ways of an unnatural society. Going along with "naturalness" can be a unique and inestimable sort of "certainty-happiness". All that is required is that you respond without self-deception to the greatest nastiness in your life (and that it inevitably is, if rarely considered let alone acknowledged). That "certainty-happiness" will give you great strength and comfort, even if you can't possibly avoid having to give way to duress again. Bide your time, plot and plan your response, a response suited to your talents. If it is your way to serve, kill the main perpetrators. None of them is your friend. None of them is a "nice person". None of them is worthy of deference. All are the vilest of continuing, voluntary, murderers, traitors and criminals against humanity. The law as it is supposed to be would freely sanction such justifiable homicide. The Universe would love you. Just make sure that, to avoid retribution, you die in the act. 7. THE AUTHOR'S STARTING AND FINISHING POINTS Why am I interested in the sin against the Holy Ghost? Because the two people I've most loved - Phil, the hitman, and, because of him, Robbie - were both "caught" in torture sex, although I didn't know that from the beginning. Somehow, they were strong enough to understand that if another, natural, "animal" could really love them, then real love and forgiveness in the Universe were possible. They understood intuitively, if unusually, that the standard definition of the sin against the Holy Ghost was just wrong. The hardest thing is to forgive oneself. I wanted to help in that process in their honour. As this is being transmitted, I am in the process of "shuffling off this mortal coil", of joining "les justes". I was in danger already, and the publication of this would, if I were not to act first, seal my earthly fate with certainty. The martyrs would not demand pointless suffering. A protracted, agonising, death is neither mandatory nor inevitable. What matters is that one's death should count. (Are you listening, suicide bombers?) Witness enough is here in my little bit for Phil and Robbie, for you, against the greatest vileness in the history of the world. I hope that my "parvum opus" provides some of you with the thought-data and the courage to be even a tiny bit unwise in the face of that oh-so-socially-acceptable treason. You know, if most people of quality in the world were prepared to take a chance of 1 in 10, or even 1 in 100, their actions, along with the actions of some prepared to waive their right to a long life, would see history reversed. The human race could free itself forever from the systematic, institutionalised, hypocrisy and foulness which infect every level, and affect every aspect, of societies around the world. How could you expect to live in tune with the Universe, and die with equanimity, if you never did anything about such inhuman (and unsatanic) rottenness? That point explains really why there are so few people in the world who are genuinely, naturally, at-home with themselves, and why so many claw to hang on to their miserable little lives. It's tough being a nasty little bunny rabbit. Don't just warm yourself by the fire. Throw on some wood, and watch the cunts scatter. Translate, linguists! Republish freely, anonymously, cyber(un)holy! May the sun be always in your face, and the wind always at your back. ALLAHU AKBAR! __________________________________________ Bernard J. O'Loughlin, Ph.D., Psychologist Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, The World, The Galaxy, The Universe The views expressed in this document are mine alone, although the sources are many - the product of years of poaching with gratitude. NO-ONE ELSE knew of its contents, or of my intention to publish it, beforehand. Indeed, a lot of subterfuge has been used over the last year to achieve that. This article has been posted at the same time to dozens of mailing lists. *bows out* __________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:22:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA10489 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:21:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA23278 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:19:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA23274 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:19:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (bnjenks@localhost) by cpcug.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA17753 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 16:17:53 -0500 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 16:17:53 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Jenks To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printing from Pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Our server group has recently switched to the new pine and we have trouble printing all of the text of our messages. Unless it is a very short message, the middle or end of the text is missing. We had been using pine for years with no trouble until now. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 16:22:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA20058 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 16:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA26403 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 16:19:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA26398 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 16:19:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZQlD-00038YC; Sun, 15 Dec 96 16:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de (Joachim Schaaf) Subject: Re: ispell in pine? Date: 13 Dec 1996 22:38:30 +0100 Message-ID: <58sicm$ihv-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> References: <58rou9$3p9-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Randall C. Nortman wrote: > In article <58rou9$3p9-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de>, Joachim Schaaf wrote: > [...] > >is it possible to use the spell-checker ispell in (Unix-) pine? > [...] > Yes: > Go to: (M)ain Menu -> (S)etup -> (C)onfig > Then, scroll down until you see the "speller" option (it's very near > the bottom for me). Select it, then choose [(C)hange Val], and type > in the name of the spelling program you want (i.e. "ispell"). Thank you, I'll get the new version of Pine, 3.93 has no "speller" option. Joachim. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Joachim Schaaf @ home running Linux (0221-9624593 login gast/gast). e-mail: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de, Joachim.Schaaf@gmd.de www : http://www.dvz.fh-koeln.de/~bn500/ We can predict everything, except the future. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:09:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA10433 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA26020 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:04:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA26016 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:04:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZROj-00038YC; Sun, 15 Dec 96 16:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: adding reply-to field Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:47:33 +0100 Message-ID: References: <587ofm$l1r@badger.wmin.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Robert Duic wrote: > OK this is nice but how can I automaticaly have filed in value of the > address ? Yes. You can supply a value when you enter the "Reply-To" field in the settings. Just add a colon and the text after it (in my case I have "Reply-To: dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se" on some computers). > Supose I have two adresses an I want ppl to reply on both of them ? I don't believe that can be achieved. \\// Peter - Who is Miss Christmas, and why should I merry her? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:46:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA23451 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA00433 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:43:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Elvira.home (in-110.Concordia.CA [132.205.119.110]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA00429 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 21:43:20 -0800 Received: from localhost (syl@localhost) by Elvira.home (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA01515 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:42:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:42:58 -0500 (EST) From: Sylvain Robitaille Reply-To: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Incorrect From: in header (Pine 3.93) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I hope someone can help me. I would like to know if there is a way to change the From: address in the headers of a message prepared with Pine. I use a Linux machine at home, and connect to the school network via SLIP. I've managed to have Pine include a Reply-To: header with my correct email address, but I would prefer the From: to read correctly. I am currently running Linux 2.0.0, and using Pine 3.93 as my mail program, and sendmail as the delivery agent. I am willing to upgrade to a newer Pine, if it will make a difference. One other concern is with the remote mailbox feature. I have a different userid on my home machine than I do on the machine which handles my mail. I use a remote mailbox within Pine to gather my mail from the machine at school, yet the IMAP always defaults to my userid on the machine at home. If there is a way I can change this, I'd like to know. This is nothing more than a slight nuisance if anything. Ultimately I'd like to be able to have two remote INBOX's, so I can gather mail separately from two machines which both know me by different userid's, and be able to configure Pine so that replies I send to messages in either inbox appear to come from the appropriate account, rather than from my home machine. This may be asking quite a bit, but then again, it's possible to do from less sophisticated programs, (such Eudora Light for windows, using separate configuration files -- I have no problems with using different .pinerc files if that will solve my problems, but I can't find any documentation anywhere that tells how to solve these problems), so I figure it must be possible with Pine. I have read all the documents I know of: Getting_Started_On_Pine.txt pine-FAQs.html pine-faq-custom.html pine-secrets.html pine-setup.html and the docs that went into /usr/doc/pine when I installed Pine: brochure.txt imap.vs.pop mailcap.unx If anybody can help me find the information I'm looking for, or knows of how I can correct the From: address in messages I send, I'd really appreciate the help. Thank you for your time... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi Cahn's Axiom: When all else fails, read the instructions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (tried that!) :-( From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 23:56:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA19547 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 23:56:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA01844 for pine-info-out; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 23:49:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA01840 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 23:49:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZXn9-00038ZC; Sun, 15 Dec 96 23:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: How do I remove empty folders? Date: 14 Dec 1996 07:01:34 GMT Message-ID: <58tjce$rgs@news1.epix.net> References: Eugene Thiemann (gthieman@micro.internexus.net) wrote: : I have figured out how to get rid of files within a folder in PINE, but : once the folder is empty, how do I delete the empty folder? : Thanks. Gene. Highlite the folder name and type D in pine, or if you have access to a unix shell type rm foldername From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:33:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA22943 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:33:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02912 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:28:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02908 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:28:43 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:27:50 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA19611; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:28:33 GMT Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:28:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: wyatt@dis.org cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: My NNTP server requires a password! How with Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On the contrary, Pine 3.95 copes with NNTP servers wanting username/password information just fine. (Even those which want you to authenticate before even allowing you to read news articles.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Ralph Lindberg & Ellen Winnie wrote: > In article <58iaq8$bht@tofu.alt.net>, wyatt@dis.org wrote: > > > > >Does anybody have any idea what I am talking about? > Yup, I don't think pine support this. But there are applications on every > platform that do (Netscape, tin, YA-Newswatcher, Free-Agent, Agent). Just > depends on which one you are using. > > -- > Ralph Lindberg N7BSN > RV and Camping FAQ They call it "Sur'n the Net" 'cause you can wipe out so easy > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:18:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA25892 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA03812 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:10:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA03808 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:10:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZbnV-00038ZC; Mon, 16 Dec 96 04:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The Dix Subject: a big thanks (was HELP) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:06:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > > One piece of advice would be to try to choose a more informative > subject than merely "Help" next time you post to a newsgroup. > > Paul Point taken...(but I did say I was new at this! ;) Thank again for your time. It is much appreciated. Kerri From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:30:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA24936 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:30:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA04929 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:25:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA04925 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:25:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZc5B-00038ZC; Mon, 16 Dec 96 04:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: Using PGP with Pine for UNIX Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:22:39 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Jean Richelle wrote: > Yes there is a way ! I've got it now thanks. Nathan D Richards Toronto, Ontario, Canada E-mail: nathanr@k2.ashpool.com WWW: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ & http://paradise.ashpool.com/ - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzKvVLUAAAEEAK/aJ0sFtNX4s5IVeJr02fOawamnfndU4CBfPYcgqL63xIoJ 8jCyAdkFj8LrvWf8US3rnT7tk2KPfMwBvTZF5EFO5UxabSsxu9i+sKGdiwBUt7Ta bkrvNFgrJdp6z0nb89zGSw+Ac/M0xTjJplG9/kL3CB7lQAboExpFxd2faGqFAAUR tCpOYXRoYW4gRCBSaWNoYXJkcyA8bmF0aGFuckBrMi5hc2hwb29sLmNvbT4= =jdPq - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMrF0wRpFxd2faGqFAQHQ2QQArYFwR48hIjjGdAF76PxFqLlDQN7IVSyF 20HSYvB3YdgoPiM86L6aNpwHvuT1BHBG2J8dCDWrHwbt8//5Gpuco5vMTBGn/dRz M5eo/cCY9WTwPy1xu3FQlxGlEfSl5kXyNYe2HI2AIpC0pxgzRc58VhSzKgfR7U5v GLhXEXK8CcE= =Je/3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 05:30:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA26243 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 05:30:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA05650 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 05:20:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ilgaz.ug.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (ilgaz.ug.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.11.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA05646 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 05:20:36 -0800 Received: from nane (nane [139.179.11.86]) by ilgaz.ug.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA22164 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:20:08 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:19:48 +0200 (EET) From: Onur Hasilik X-Sender: hasilik@nane To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII please give information about the pine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 06:07:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA24803 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 06:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA05046 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 06:01:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gwa.ericsson.com (gwa.ericsson.com [198.215.127.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA05042 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 06:01:21 -0800 Received: from mr1.exu.ericsson.se (mr1.exu.ericsson.com [138.85.147.11]) by gwa.ericsson.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id IAA12167 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:01:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (screamer.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.13]) by mr1.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.1/NAHUB-MR1.1) with SMTP id IAA29808 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:01:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from rtppub (rtppub.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.179]) by screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA03373 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:01:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (orange@localhost) by rtppub (SMI-8.6/8.6.8) with SMTP id JAA21578 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:01:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rtppub.rtp.ericsson.se: orange owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:01:17 -0500 (EST) From: Cary Orange X-Sender: orange@rtppub To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Exec for Intergraph/Clix OS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm looking for an exec of Pine for an Intergraph workstation running Clix. Do you have one or can you make one for me? Unfortunately, I don't have the equipment or the compiler otherwise I'd try to build it myself from the source. It's for a friend. Regards, Cary From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:46:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA29549 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA07371 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:41:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA07367 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:40:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZg4t-00038aC; Mon, 16 Dec 96 08:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: Feature request for future. Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:47:38 +0100 Message-ID: References: <01bbe79c$782bc730$828c60cc@ambra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <01bbe79c$782bc730$828c60cc@ambra> On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, William C Bonner wrote: (BTW, what's the HTML part of your message about?) > Netscape adds a "References:" header in a reply message. It references the > message ID of the message that is being replied to. References are (afaik) only meant to be used in Usenet news. Pine supports them there. \\// Peter - Who is Miss Christmas, and why should I merry her? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:06:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA29373 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:06:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA08867 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:01:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA08860 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:01:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZgPR-00038ZC; Mon, 16 Dec 96 09:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Kramer Subject: Re: ispell in pine? Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:12:49 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <58sicm$ihv-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> For using ispell with Pine versions prior to 3.92, a workaround by Michael Ramey is described at URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/custom.html#xtocid1883310 (Title: "How do I change spell checking in Pine (pre-3.92) and Pico?") (PC-Pine users may be interested in the item above that: "How can I perform spell checking with PC-Pine for Windows?") ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu University of Washington Computing & Communications ------------------------------------------------------------ On 13 Dec 1996, Joachim Schaaf wrote: # Date: 13 Dec 1996 15:24:09 +0100 # From: Joachim Schaaf # Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine # Subject: ispell in pine? # # Hello, # # is it possible to use the spell-checker ispell in (Unix-) pine? # # Thanks in advance, # # Joachim. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:18:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA30002 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:18:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA08280 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:13:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sensenet.com (ip.sensenet.com [199.33.238.23]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA08276 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:13:23 -0800 From: micro@sensenet.com Received: from localhost (micro@localhost) by sensenet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA03779 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:13:25 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:13:25 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: micro@sensenet.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: verbose error when sending mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mon Dec 16 12:00:58 EST 1996 Hello all: I have been using pine now for 2 weeks and simply love it! I have noticed the following error: [Mail not sent. VERBOSE mode error: 502 Verbose unavailable.] The sendmail.cf config line that causes this is: O PrivacyOptions=goaway,authwarnings It also occurs if noexpn or novrfy is included in place of goaway. I have the following in my pine config: [X] enable-verbose-smtp-posting So, 2 questions: 1) Any ideas as to why this error is generated, and if there is a fix available? I do not want the ability for external 'vrfys' or 'expns', but do want the verbose SMTP messages when I send mail. 2) Can I have 'verbose' posting as the default when I do " X" and not have to do " X W" ? -primus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:51:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA30628 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:51:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA10688 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:46:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from merlin.kitsap.lib.wa.us (merlin.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.19]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA10682 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:46:25 -0800 Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.22]) by merlin.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA06826 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:43:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:47:23 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Schuyler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ";" option Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One of our subscribers reports the ; option does not work to select messages. She's right. I assumed some sort of option in pine.conf, but after a perusal I can't find how to turn that option on. I'm obviously doing something wrong. Anybody know what? o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | LinkNet Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | | 'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|____________________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ============================================================================ Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:16:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA00072 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:16:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA12285 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:07:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from comm1.ab.umd.edu (comm1.ab.umd.edu [134.192.1.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA12278 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:07:48 -0800 Received: from umabnet.ab.umd.edu (umabnet.ab.umd.edu [134.192.1.6]) by comm1.ab.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA14837 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by umabnet.ab.umd.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18506; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:05:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:05:46 -0500 (EST) From: Carol H Pfeffer Reply-To: Carol H Pfeffer To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: America on line Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2034237178-1712840087-850762716=:75166" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2034237178-1712840087-850762716=:75166 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Gentlepersons, Could you help me, please? I really want to understand why my associates who have "America on Line" cannot receive my E-mail messages. I can send messages to other universities, and those who have Erol's, but people who have AOL, cannot receive my messages. I can also be reached at (410) 328-2185. Thank you for any help you can give me. Sincerely, Carol Pfeffer Administrative Assistant ---2034237178-1712840087-850762716=:75166-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:37:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA23088 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA12855 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:32:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from merlin.kitsap.lib.wa.us (merlin.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA12851 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:32:55 -0800 Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.22]) by merlin.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA08463 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:30:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:33:54 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Schuyler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: America on line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, Carol H Pfeffer wrote: > Could you help me, please? I really want to understand why my associates > who have "America on Line" cannot receive my E-mail messages. I can send > messages to other universities, and those who have Erol's, but people who > have AOL, cannot receive my messages. We send dozens of messages to AOL daily with no problem. In fact, it's a whole lot easier than Compuserve. It's just the person's e-mail address @aol.com and away they go. If yours don't get there, you might peruse the bounce message you would inevitably receive from your own server for clues as to why there might be a problem. o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | LinkNet Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | | 'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|____________________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ============================================================================ Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:22:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA03870 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA14445 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:16:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA14435 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:16:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZkLL-00038YC; Mon, 16 Dec 96 13:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: UNIX Pine reading mail on NT based NS Mail 2.01 via IMAP Date: 16 Dec 1996 16:14:55 GMT Message-ID: <593shv$4sh@due.unit.no> References: <32ACDABA.12B6@CSUN.Edu> <32ADE3D4.76FC@CSUN.Edu> In article <32ADE3D4.76FC@CSUN.Edu>, Marc Montemorra wrote: >Due to the lack of responses to my post it may be that nobody is >interested in this. It's December. 'Nuff said. >Pine. Does anybody know if there is any way to tell Pine to not attempt >to make a rsh connection to the remote machine? Add an explicit port number (147 I think): {darkwing.csun.edu:147/user=marc.montemorra}inbox Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:21:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA04073 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA17003 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:16:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA16999 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:16:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZlHm-00038YC; Mon, 16 Dec 96 14:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Pine Mail for SCO Unix Date: 16 Dec 1996 17:10:33 GMT Message-ID: <593vq9$65f@due.unit.no> References: <01bbe758$f3a5faa0$2d0100c0@pick5> In article , Robert Duic wrote: >> On 11 Dec 1996, Sean Allison wrote: >> > I am new to this newsgroup so please forgive me if this has already been >> > covered. Can anyone tell me what is the latest version of Pine mail for >> > Unix? >> well, i suppose 3.91.. if anyone knows newer? > >3.94 It is included on the latest Skunkware96 Um, you are supposed to blithely ignore the FAQ before _asking_ questions, not before _answering_ them. Yours hypocritically, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:34:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA05374 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA17369 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:30:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nermal.cssnps.com (nermal.cssnps.com [206.30.231.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA17363 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:30:06 -0800 From: mattc@nermal.cssnps.com Received: (from mattc@localhost) by nermal.cssnps.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id RAA03133 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:36:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:36:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612162236.RAA03133@nermal.cssnps.com> Content-Type: text unsubscribe pine-info mattc@homer.cssnps.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:39:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA07104 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA19083 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:35:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA19079 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:35:52 -0800 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 17 Dec 96 07:34:43 +0800 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 07:34:43 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Michael Schuyler cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ";" option In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, Michael Schuyler wrote: > One of our subscribers reports the ; option does not work to select > messages. She's right. I assumed some sort of option in pine.conf, but > after a perusal I can't find how to turn that option on. I'm obviously > doing something wrong. Anybody know what? This is an "easy" one to miss... FEATURE: enable-aggregate-command-set Setting this feature enables the commands and subcommands that relate to performing operations on more than one message at a time. We call these "aggregate operations". In particular, the "; Select", "A Apply", and "Z Zoom" commands are enabled by this feature. Select is used to "tag" one or more messages meeting the specified criteria. Apply can then be used to apply any message command to all of the selected/tagged messages. Further, the Zoom command allows you to toggle the Folder Index view between just those Selected and all messages in the folder. This feature also enables the "^X" subcommand in the FOLDER INDEX WhereIs command which causes all messages matching the WhereIs argument to become selected. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:57:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA09435 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:57:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA18541 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:51:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA18534 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:51:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZmol-00038ZC; Mon, 16 Dec 96 15:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Kramer Subject: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:57:07 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Archive-name: mail/pine-faq Posting-Frequency: monthly URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html The most Frequently Asked Questions about Pine What documentation is available for Pine? The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive online help. Additional documentation, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, and information on where to obtain the software, can be accessed: * In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ * Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. + The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] _________________________________________________________________ Who should I ask for help with Pine? If you need assistance with Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using Pine. Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users. You may also be able to find the answer to your question through the Pine Discussion Forum -- see http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ * If you are posting a question to the Pine Discussion Forum but do not subscribe to it, request in your message that replies be sent directly to you, with a copy to the forum. (Conversely, if you are answering a question in the Pine Discussion Forum, be sure to include the inquirer's email address in your reply, since s/he may not be a subscriber and will otherwise not see your answer). _________________________________________________________________ Why does command X not work? Some of the Pine commands you may read or hear about have to be explicitly enabled in the SETUP CONFIGURATION menu, which is accessed from Pine's MAIN MENU, to be functional. For example, to be able to use the "Bounce" command, the following feature has to be checked: [X] enable-bounce-cmd and to be able to use the "Select"/"Apply" operations, you must first check: [X] enable-aggregate-command-set _________________________________________________________________ How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." For details on selection and configuration of such programs, see the Filtering Mail FAQ (by Nancy McGough) at one of the following locations: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/ faq.html ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt Once you have successfully set up your delivery filtering, you will have new mail arriving in several different folders, in addition to your INBOX. You can then access these folders just like any other mail folder. You can also define a collection of incoming message folders in Pine, through which you can then TAB to read new messages. For more information, see Pine's internal help on the enable-incoming-folders feature in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION menu. _________________________________________________________________ How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Config. Move down to the customized-hdrs option and read the context-sensitive help screen. _________________________________________________________________ Why does my message index show From: instead of To:? Applies to Pine for Unix only A number of Pine 3.95 users have reported seeing their own name, rather than the name of the recipient, in folder index listings of messages they have sent. This occurs when Pine detects the specific hostname of the computer on which it is running in the From: header. To avoid this from happening, set use-only-domain-name in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION menu to Yes; this strips the name of the specific host from your From: address. Alternatively, specify your domain name in user-domain (be sure you enter it correctly, otherwise all your outgoing messages will have an invalid return address! Ask your local computing support people if in doubt). When setting either of these options, also read the help screen for quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file to see whether you should enable that feature too. Administrators of systems where Pine exhibits this behavior should also check the /etc/hosts file for invalid entries; as an example, it should read: 123.456.78.90 hostname.domain hostname not just 123.456.78.90 hostname -- otherwise, users' setting of use-only-domain-name to Yes will not have the intended effect. _________________________________________________________________ How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Signature. The text you enter in the SIGNATURE EDITOR (new in Pine 3.92) will be appended to all messages you compose. _________________________________________________________________ How do I send a message to multiple recipients without showing all their names? In Pine's message composer, with the cursor in the message headers area, press Ctrl-R ("rich headers"). Then read the context-sensitive help screens for the Bcc: and Lcc: fields. _________________________________________________________________ How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment to a message I send? Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for attaching files to email messages. Any MIME-capable mailer should be able to "understand" Pine's attachments. If the recipient of your message with attachment does not have MIME-capable email software, they should be able to save the attachment to a file and then decode that. One freely-available program which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie Mellon. It is available at: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack _________________________________________________________________ Can Pine be used with a POP server? As of version 3.95, PC-Pine cannot be used with a POP (Post Office Protocol) server. Pine for Unix can be configured to access the message INBOX on a POP3 server using the folder definition syntax {pop3server/pop3}INBOX where pop3server is the hostname of the POP3 server. However, this method accesses the POP server in quasi-online mode, not in offline mode, which POP was designed for. Accessing the inbox on a POP3 server with Pine does not preserve changes to message flags (New, Answered, Deleted, etc.) between sessions. As an alternative, a program such as fetchmail (which supercedes popclient) can be used to download email from a POP server to a local Unix account, where it can then be accessed with Pine. fetchmail can be obtained from: http://locke.ccil.org:80/~esr/esr-freeware.html#fetchmail Note: support for the offline mode of email access (using either POP or IMAP) is planned for a future release of Pine and PC-Pine. For a more detailed comparison of the POP and IMAP protocols, see Message Access Paradigms and Protocols at the URL: http://www.imap.org/imap.vs.pop.html _________________________________________________________________ End of Pine Frequently Asked Questions - more questions & answers about Pine can be found at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt _________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:42:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA06112 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA20861 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:38:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA20853 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:38:40 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA26193 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:36:03 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:36:03 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Date Problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. If you look at the header of this note, you'll notice that in parentheses, where it should be showing CST for my time-zone, it has in its place a control-A. Can anyone let me know why Pine wouldn't be reading my time zone correctly, why the control-A, and how I can fix this? It's screwing up the colors on a lot of people's screens. Thanks very much. Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:45:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA09294 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA22224 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:42:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA22219 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:42:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZoV3-00038ZC; Mon, 16 Dec 96 17:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marcos@totalaccess.net (The TEAM) Subject: WOW...486 PC FORSALE $600.00 COMPLETE Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:17:02 GMT Message-ID: <32b5e65a.36065633@news.88net.net> AWSOME...CHRISTMAS GIFTS!!! 486 PC W/ MINI TOWER HARD DRIVE CD ROM SOUND CARD TOUCH SCREEN SVGA MONITOR KEY BOARD MOUSE COMPLETE SYSTEM $600.00 PLUS S/H QUESTIONS TO marcos@totalaccess.net HURRY..GOING FAST !!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:45:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA10074 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:45:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA22073 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:42:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA22069 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:42:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZpT5-00038YC; Mon, 16 Dec 96 18:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Rudy Amid" Subject: FYI: compiling Imap4 Beta for BSd/OS 2.1 Date: 12 Dec 1996 08:49:24 GMT Message-ID: <01bbe809$5fc61f70$0f7847c7@radix> Anyone who is trying to compile Imap4 BETA from ftp.cac.washington.edu on BSD/OS should be aware that one bug in the /usr/bin/false command. The makefile calls the script in src/afs/afs-patches and it passes a command called "false" (or true if you have AFS). Apparently false is not behaving the correct way, so this script always includes the AFS includes and vars to build the c-client makefile. BSD/OS compilation will choke on this. The solution is simple, just comment out everything in the afs-patches script file and you're on your way. I'm not sure why /usr/sbin/false is not working, I'll probably look into the BSD/OS 2.1 source on the cdrom tomorrow. Rudy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:48:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA21664 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA25701 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:42:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA25697 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:42:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZsG0-00038YC; Mon, 16 Dec 96 21:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be (Benjamin Gonay) Subject: Re: Pine and HP-UX 9.04 Date: 12 Dec 1996 11:43:31 GMT Message-ID: <58or53$jis@sugar.h.belgacom.be> References: <32A99731.11E@mo.net> Darren P. Chapman (dpc68@mo.net) wrote: : Hi! Please help if you can? : I need to run PINE on an HP9000 w/ HP-UX 9.04 running many : Wyse terminals. I think 50's and 150's, possibly 60's? Don't know for this, : The binary seems to work fine, but the cursor up and down keys do not : work as expected. Any ideas? but for that, see your TERM variable (echo $TERM) It's probably an emulation problem, see also if you can see '@' in the adresses...if not, it's the problem. -- Cybersalutations ;-) _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Email : Benjamin.Gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be _/ _/ From Brussels, Belgium , capital of Europe... _/ _/ linux forever...Linux Forever...Linux FOREVER... LINUX FOREVER !!!!! _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:51:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA27990 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:51:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA24610 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:49:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu (ultrix.ramapo.edu [192.107.108.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA24606 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:49:09 -0800 Received: by ultrix.ramapo.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07563; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:49:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:49:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Marcelo N. Halpern" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: About pine 3.95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I just finished compiling Pine3.95 on my linux system. I have encountered a few problems that hopefully you will be able to help me with (or forward this message to the rigth address). What I'm trying to do is to connect to an IMAP server (on a UNIX box) using pine3.95(*nix, too). The problem that I have is that UNIX-pine will not let me set the user-id to the user-id on the machine where I keep the mail: ie my usename on this machine is "mhalpern", and my username on the linux system is "mnh". I understand that 1) Pine gives me the option of changing the user-id when it connects to the mailserver, but I also have to enter my username/password _every_ time I go to to a different folder, and this becomes rather anoying after 3 or 4 times; and 2) Being able to do that (overriding the passwd file) could be a security problem, but as I said, it's rather annoying to have to login 3 or 4 times to be able to read my mail... I have traced this down to pine/init.c and changed the entries to: #if defined(DOS) || defined(OS2) /* Have to have this on DOS, PC's, Macs, etc... */ {"user-id", 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, #else /* Don't allow on UNIX machines for some security */ {"user-id", 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, #endif /^\ | but that doesn't seem to change anything (Well, it gives me the entry user-id under Main/Setup/Config, but still the same problem connecting with a different user-id). Is there anything I'm doing wrong? How can I set this up??? The second (minor) question that I have is: is there any way to _disable_ the rsh connection to the server? I know it's not as secure, but my mail server is not running any of the r* commands, so the rest of my *NIX machines on the network time out trying to connect to it, and then they connect over the standar IMAP port, wich delays the connection a few seconds... anything that I can do about it, besides setting up rsh-imapd on the other side? Security is not a big problem here, the mail machine is bechind a firewall, and so are the rest of the *NIX machines on the network.... Thank you very much, --Nico Halpern. __________________________________________________________________________ On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux. Antoine de Saint-Exupery From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:35:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA12043 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:35:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA25161 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:32:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA25157 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:32:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZt1m-00038ZC; Mon, 16 Dec 96 22:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Re: Pine support for DSN? (Delivery Status Notification) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 12:36:34 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32AF5DA3.739A@lgx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32AF5DA3.739A@lgx.com> On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, William C Bonner wrote: > customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To: William C Bonner , How often does this actually work? Rasheed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:01:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA03777 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA26544 for pine-info-out; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 23:57:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zwei.siemens.at (zwei.siemens.at [193.81.246.12]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA26534 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 23:57:27 -0800 Received: from scenlg01.nlg.siemens.at (root@[10.1.143.100]) by zwei.siemens.at (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA24584; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:56:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from ws6a21.pseg.siemens.co.at by scenlg01.nlg.siemens.at with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA265069414; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:56:55 +0100 Received: from localhost by ws6a21.pseg.siemens.co.at (1.39.111.2/1.37) id AA194149243; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:54:03 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:54:03 +0100 (MET) From: Diethard Ohrt Reply-To: ohrt@ws2318.gud.siemens.co.at To: Benjamin Gonay Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and HP-UX 9.04 In-Reply-To: <58or53$jis@sugar.h.belgacom.be> Message-Id: Company: Siemens AG Organization: PSE TMN Graz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Dec 1996, Benjamin Gonay wrote: [> Darren P. Chapman (dpc68@mo.net) wrote: [> : Hi! Please help if you can? [> [> : I need to run PINE on an HP9000 w/ HP-UX 9.04 running many [> : Wyse terminals. I think 50's and 150's, possibly 60's? [> Don't know for this, [> : The binary seems to work fine, but the cursor up and down keys do not [> : work as expected. Any ideas? [> but for that, see your TERM variable (echo $TERM) [> [...] On HP-UX, the default terminal emulation usually is "hpterm", at least in a X Windows environment; but I'm quite sure that HP forces its own emulation to be used in every environment. We are using HP-UX V10.01 with VUE (Visual User Environment, X11/Motif compliant). Pine only works as expected if you use "xterm" terminal emulation. Cheers, Diti _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _ __------ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | -- \ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ |_ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | ___-\ o | _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ /_/ | | |__---| Diethard Ohrt Steiermark - das gruene Herz Oesterreichs SIEMENS AG / PSE TMN G1 Styria - the green heart of Austria A-8054 Graz Austria Styrie - le coeur vert d'Autriche =========================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:48:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA14400 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:47:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA28272 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:44:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA28268 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:44:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZv2u-00038bC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 00:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Richelle Subject: Re: Using PGP with Pine for UNIX Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:44:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: Yes there is a way ! Have a look at =09http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html Jean On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Nathan D Richards wrote: > Is there a way to use PGP with Pine? If there is, please email me as I > haven't found it. >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > Nathan D Richards > Toronto, Ontario, Canada > E-mail: nathanr@k2.ashpool.com > WWW: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ & http://paradise.ashpool.com/ >=20 >=20 >=20 ___________________________________________________________________________= __ Jean Richelle Unit=E9 de Conformation des Macromol=E9cules Biologiques Tel: 32-2-650= 35 87 Universit=E9 libre de Bruxelles FAX: 32-2-648 8= 9 54 av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium ___________________________________________________________________________= __ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:14:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA12911 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:14:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA27406 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:10:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA27402 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:10:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZvQM-00038bC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 01:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rnortman@huitzilo.tezcat.com (Randall C. Nortman) Subject: Re: ispell in pine? Date: 13 Dec 1996 19:18:59 GMT Message-ID: References: <58rou9$3p9-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> In article <58rou9$3p9-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de>, Joachim Schaaf wrote: [...] >is it possible to use the spell-checker ispell in (Unix-) pine? [...] Yes: Go to: (M)ain Menu -> (S)etup -> (C)onfig Then, scroll down until you see the "speller" option (it's very near the bottom for me). Select it, then choose [(C)hange Val], and type in the name of the spelling program you want (i.e. "ispell"). Two things to take note of here: 1) I'm using Pine 3.95. I don't know how recently this feature was added, but I think it's pretty new. So, if you're using an older version, the "speller" option may not be there. 2) ispell must be installed on your system. If it's not in your path, you may have to provide the complete path to it. I tried to keep this quick and to the point, and so I assumed that you're familiar with Pine. If you need more detailed help, feel free to mail me directly, or followup to the group if you feel that's appropriate. -- Randall Nortman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:39:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA03013 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA27691 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:33:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA27687 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:33:41 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:32:18 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA07638; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:33:05 GMT Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:33:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Orjan Johansen cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UNIX Pine reading mail on NT based NS Mail 2.01 via IMAP In-Reply-To: <593shv$4sh@due.unit.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Close... the standard port number for an IMAP server is actually 143, not 147. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 16 Dec 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > In article <32ADE3D4.76FC@CSUN.Edu>, > Marc Montemorra wrote: > >Due to the lack of responses to my post it may be that nobody is > >interested in this. > > It's December. 'Nuff said. > > >Pine. Does anybody know if there is any way to tell Pine to not attempt > >to make a rsh connection to the remote machine? > > Add an explicit port number (147 I think): > > {darkwing.csun.edu:147/user=marc.montemorra}inbox > > Greetings, > Xrjan. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:21:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA09854 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:21:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA29329 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:13:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA29325 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:13:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZwUf-00038XC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 02:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Richelle Subject: Re: Question: receive message problem Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:01:03 +0100 Message-ID: References: <32A081C9.572E@unm.edu> <32AD3705.6E32@ziplink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: <32AD3705.6E32@ziplink.net> Another way: type your 100 persons e-mail addresses in a Distribution List and send the message to the list using the LCC: (List Carbon Copy). It will show only the name of the Distribution List. This is a relatively new features in pine. Jean On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Rick Sedona wrote: > C. L. Choong wrote: > >=20 > > I have one question, hope someone can help: > >=20 > > I have a message need to send to 100 persons. I typed the 100 persons > > e-mails address into my "nickname" (address book) . > >=20 > > when I send this message to the 100 persons, they receive this > > message, but the 100 persons name shown on e-mail message "to: " > > session. > >=20 > > my question is: How can I solve this problem? --> I don't want the > > receiver see the 100 persons' names. because it is > > too long and make the screen mess. > >=20 > > Thank you for your help. > >=20 > > -- > >=20 > > C. L. Choong > > ---------------------------------------- > > MBA student at University of New Mexico > > Albuquerque, NM, U.S. > > http://www.unm.edu/~ccleong > > ccleong@unm.edu > > ----------------------------------------- > Send the message using the BCC: (Blind Carbon Copy) choice. It will > suppress all recepients names and/or email addresses. >=20 > Rick >=20 > --=20 > Best Regards, >=20 > Rick Sedona > ------------------------------- > SKYWATCH Regional Director > Southern California - San Diego > mailto://sedona@ziplink.net > ------------------------------- >=20 >=20 ___________________________________________________________________________= __ Jean Richelle Unit=E9 de Conformation des Macromol=E9cules Biologiques Tel: 32-2-650= 35 87 Universit=E9 libre de Bruxelles FAX: 32-2-648 8= 9 54 av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium ___________________________________________________________________________= __ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:12:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA12208 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA28713 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:10:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA28709 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:10:14 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA01609 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 05:09:42 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 05:09:42 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Distribution Lists Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If I have a text file in my Unix account with a list of e-mail addresses in it, is there any way I can import this list into a distribution list for use with the LCC field in a Pine header? I'm using Unix Pine 3.95. Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:00:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA15255 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA29207 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:58:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA29203 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:58:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA01735 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 05:57:45 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 05:57:45 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Checking MAil with Pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. I'm using Pine from a Unix shell account. This provider has several servers attached to it. The shell server is not the same as the mail server. Thus, mail doesn't automatically come to a place where Pine can reach it. The way I solved the problem is to FTP to the mail server, which is also the web server, and put a .forward file in my home directory there with the address of the shell server, which (lucky for me) can still grab mail, even though it's not the primary mail server. Is this the most efficient way of accomplishing what I need to accomplish? Another service I know of uses a pop client to grab the mail whenever you invoke Pine. I find this to be quite inconvenient. My .forward file technique seems a lot more transparent. The disadvantage is that I can't use ma PPP program to pick up mail from the normal mail server if I want to, because it automatically gets forwarded over to the shell server. But it's a relatively small price to pay. Basically, I'm just wondering if I'm being as efficient as I can be in this regard. Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:25:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA15430 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA29690 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:23:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA29686 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:23:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vZyV8-00038XC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 04:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marcos@totalaccess.net (The TEAM) Subject: cmsg cancel <32b5e65a.36065633@news.88net.net> Control: cancel <32b5e65a.36065633@news.88net.net> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:17:02 GMT Message-ID: ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by roberto@eurocontrol.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in fr.usenet.divers. Date: Tue Dec 17 12:08:54 1996 Original subject was: WOW...486 PC FORSALE $600.00 COMPLETE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 06:25:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA16368 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 06:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA02359 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 06:18:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA02355 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 06:18:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0va0LF-00038cC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 06:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: EMAIL QUESTION Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:52:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <01bbe335$3314e5c0$492074cf@wchen> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Peter Karlsson wrote: > On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > > Yes. The receiving system "decides" whether it will honor the > > request for a return receipt, > > On systems that do honour requests, what do I set in the message header to > get it to send one? Go into the configuration screen and scroll down to "customized-hdrs." Add the following line: Return-Receipt-To: your_email_address_goes_here Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 06:47:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA16656 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 06:47:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA01522 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 06:43:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zodiac2.mimuw.edu.pl (zodiac2.mimuw.edu.pl [148.81.15.16]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA01516 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 06:42:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (mk167153@localhost) by zodiac2.mimuw.edu.pl (8.8.1/8.8.0) with SMTP id PAA15327 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:41:30 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:41:30 +0100 (MET) From: Maciej Kotowski To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi !!!!!!! It's me . From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 07:43:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA06146 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 07:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA02457 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 07:38:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA02453 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 07:38:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0va1Wy-00038XC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 07:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: news@HAMMER.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <32B54D0D.1E4A@worldnet.att.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <32B54D0D.1E4A@worldnet.att.net> no reply ignore Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:15:24 GMT ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov. Make Money Fast has been posted thousands of times, enough to qualify as cancel-on-sight spam. The chain letter scheme it describes is illegal in many countries. For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:52:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA29423 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:52:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA03807 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:47:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mucc.mahidol.ac.th (mucc.mahidol.ac.th [202.28.162.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA03803 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:47:19 -0800 Received: from lox2.loxinfo.co.th (boonya@lox2.loxinfo.co.th [202.44.203.12]) by mucc.mahidol.ac.th (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA08138 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:44:57 +0700 (GMT+0700) X-Authentication-Warning: mucc.mahidol.ac.th: boonya@lox2.loxinfo.co.th [202.44.203.12] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <32B79D43.2782@mahidol.ac.th> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:29:07 -0800 From: Sutat Saetang Organization: Mahidol University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: find algorithm of MIME Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi.. I would like to alogrithm of MIME or source code of MIME. please you suggest me. thank From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:04:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA07152 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:04:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA08237 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:59:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA08232 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:59:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0va4fb-00038XC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 10:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anirvan@crl.com (Anirvan Chatterjee) Subject: pine feature request Date: 17 Dec 1996 05:03:03 GMT Message-ID: <5959i7$n6t@nexp.crl.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I'd like to be able to specify a subject line for new mail messages set up from the subject line, the same way you can with mailx. E.g. if the '-s' switch was interpreted as the "subject" option, I'd like to be able to do things like this: pine -s "urgent memo" my-boss@dev.nul This would make pine an acceptable plug-in substitute for mailx in terms of easy command line mailing capabilities, which is a Good Thing. ___________________________________ Anirvan Chatterjee anirvan@crl.com PGP: 0x93C5C165 finger -> PGP/geek -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMrYpgmTQ0LuTxcFlAQE9QgQAiqN6zybzMR4zaXPOx8d80Fonc4wfs5qf NFJzukJn9rsuAN5lCbEuCp76FpiFhE6nqXMDpEPgs0LWPfi7QM/xD2tRx3/Gth08 8Oof8k1CnhLwQ8KCN8h+83lw/staWI2OSqO7LdNjsd0dJWomfv35Ki1L7MsWiku8 HVSSXd/Nyt4= =BJc7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:48:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA23352 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA08284 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:44:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA08278 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:44:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0va5MP-00038XC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 11:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: error no valid authore spec. Date: 17 Dec 1996 18:49:06 GMT Message-ID: References: <594dfi$dr2@news1.panix.com> In-reply-to: wolcott@panix.com's message of 16 Dec 1996 21:03:46 GMT In article <594dfi$dr2@news1.panix.com> wolcott@panix.com writes: I have been installing PINE for sco unix. I got very far, but now I have problem and can not seem to find and answer. After composing new mail and pressing ^x to send I get this error and no mail is sent. --- "no valid author specification"-- What does this mean and how can I fix the error.? Evidently your From: header was broken. Hope this helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov http://www.dc-sage.org/bios/rick_troxel 301/435-2983 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:55:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA23796 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA09620 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:51:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA09616 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:51:32 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id OAA09523; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:49:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:49:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine feature request In-Reply-To: <5959i7$n6t@nexp.crl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 17 Dec 1996, Anirvan Chatterjee wrote: >I'd like to be able to specify a subject line for new mail messages set >up from the [command] line Me too. -S From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:23:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA10364 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA11968 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:19:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA11964 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:19:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0va6tp-00038XC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 13:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: agr30@rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Martin Bialasinski) Subject: Re: "New Mail" message and filter Date: 12 Dec 1996 15:34:13 GMT Message-ID: <58p8ll$4i3@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de> References: <58mga6$sma@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de> <58nurh$ohv@news1.epix.net> DearOldDad (dad@epix.net) wrote: > : BTW: I could set up a webpage showing how to filter mails using filter, > : if there is a need > There probably is, but you should understand how it (the email) works 1st > before you advise others. Please take this post in the manner in which it > is intended, not meant to be a flame, just trying to advise that filtering > sometimes needs to be thought out carefully. BYE. I don't care, but I noticed, that many users are can't aggregate the infos in the filter man pages, the elm filter guide and pine help. So I just thought of a step-by-step instuction how to configure pine, filter-rules and .forward, nothing more. Would have been more work for me than I already have, so maybe it's best not to do it. BTW: Not to know, that pine doesn't support monitoring multiple inboxes, when the helpfiles doesn't mention it (at least I didn't found anything about that), doesn't mean I don't understand how email works. Ciao, Martin -- _____________________________________________________________ / \ > stud. rer. pol. ------- Wirtschaftskapitän < > Universität zu Köln / university of cologne < \_____________________________________________________________/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:16:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA30554 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA16196 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:09:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA16186 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:09:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaATe-00038bC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 17:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: why wont ARROWS work in PINE w/ MAC? Date: 17 Dec 1996 19:27:17 GMT Message-ID: <596s6l$7ee$3@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <587bkn$p9h@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <594c4l$7c1@nexp.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <596gha$i48$2@news.sas.ab.ca>, andrewh@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () writes: > Anirvan Chatterjee (anirvan@crl.com) wrote: >: Christian Doellner (cdoell@prairienet.org) wrote: >: : Why wont moving the cursor with arrows NOT work with my MAC >: : (the arrows work in word-processing). >: What terminal emulator are you using? That's probably where the >: problem is. > > Try using Zterm 1.0.1, it works for me. Zterm is good for modem connection. Use Comit if you have ethernet connection. NiftyTelnet is fine, too. Play around with optional key functions while you are at it. I use Comit most of time. Haven't used NCSA Telnet for a few years. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == Email: Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = WWW: http://uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews== == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:22:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA21904 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA17376 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:19:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA17372 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:19:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaAen-00038XC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 17:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dana Booth Subject: OS/2 port of Pine mail Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 19:41:47 GMT I've been using the os/2 port to read just a couple of newsgroups. I don't post, but recently a friend installed linux and wanted me to test some of his setup before going online. He setup a 'test' newsgroup, and I used the os/2 Pine to send a test message to that group. His news, though, wouldn't accept my posting because there was a lack of domain information left by Pine. Normally, the message ID should read something like 'PineOS2xxxxxxxxxx@domain.com', but on the postings that I tried, it would simply put 'PineOS2xxxxx@'. Here is the important stuff from pinerc: ===============================top of cut # Updated by Pine(tm) 3.95, copyright 1989-1996 University of Washington. # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name=Dana Booth # Your login/e-mail user name user-id=crom # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain=eskimo.com # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server=mail.eskimo.com # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. nntp-server=eskinews.eskimo.com ====================================bottom of cut Anyway, I just used the servers Pine to send this *G*. I hope someone might be able to tell me what the matter is. ---------------------------- Dana Booth ---------------------------- -- ---------------------------- Dana Booth ---------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:07:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA31390 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA18197 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:05:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA18193 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:04:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaBMi-00038bC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 18:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Teerapong Raksasung Subject: new Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:03:03 +0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII goodluck ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:07:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA30850 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:07:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA17277 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:04:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA17273 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:04:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaBIm-00038XC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 18:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Using PGP with Pine for UNIX Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:26:16 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to use PGP with Pine? If there is, please email me as I haven't found it. Thanks. Nathan D Richards Toronto, Ontario, Canada E-mail: nathanr@k2.ashpool.com WWW: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ & http://paradise.ashpool.com/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:17:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA22093 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:17:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA19305 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:15:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA19301 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:15:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaDOh-00038XC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 20:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Richelle Subject: Fcc default bug back in 3.95 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:10:38 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hello all of you, In a previous version there was a bug that reset the default value of the Fcc: field when the To: field was `visited' again. This bug is back in 3.95 ! Is there any way to correct it ? Jean ___________________________________________________________________________= __ Jean Richelle Unit=E9 de Conformation des Macromol=E9cules Biologiques Tel: 32-2-650= 35 87 Universit=E9 libre de Bruxelles FAX: 32-2-648 8= 9 54 av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium ___________________________________________________________________________= __ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:39:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA26481 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA20471 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:35:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA20465 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:35:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaDfy-00038XC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 20:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jorge@mailloop.com Subject: Bulk Mail Software Date: 18 Dec 1996 03:08:21 GMT Message-ID: <597n75$k57@crawler.dlc.fi> Mailloop is bulk-mailing software that will revolutionize how people advertise on the internet. See what all the fuss is about: http://www.mailloop.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:03:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA01180 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:03:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA21626 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:00:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA21622 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:00:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaFyi-00038XC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 22:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Headers & FCC (was Untitled) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:27:24 GMT Message-ID: <58pf65$735@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: 1. Please remember to put a Subject in your posts; it makes reading the group much more pleasant. 2. You can define your own default headers (the headers you'll see each time you compose a message). Go into setup (S,C from the Main Menu), find the option called "default-composer-hdrs" and hit "?" for help on this option. 3. You can set your default FCC: to "" by going to the setup option call "default-fcc" and replacing the current value with a pair of empty double quotes. -Ram On 12 Dec 1996, fygrave@freenet.bishkek.su (Fyodor Yarochkin) wrote: >hey.. is there any possiblities to fix rich header alwayz while icompose > message ( so i won't have to press ^r everytime) > and another thing, is it possible to fix Fcc: > if i don't want to copy ever my message to sent-mail? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:14:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA29785 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA22685 for pine-info-out; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:10:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA22675 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:10:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaG4R-00038XC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 23:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sef@kithrup.com Subject: cmsg cancel <597n75$k57@crawler.dlc.fi> Date: 18 Dec 1996 04:51:15 GMT Control: cancel <597n75$k57@crawler.dlc.fi> Message-ID: Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:39:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA27928 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:39:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA23731 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:35:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA23727 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:35:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaINH-00038WC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 01:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Buck Subject: Address Book doesn't work (PC-Pine 3.95 on WinNT) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 13:07:59 -0500 Message-ID: <32B049FF.17E4@rrinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been trying to set up an address book with PC-Pine v3.95 running under NT 4.0. Pine crashes (Dr. Watson/GPF) anytime I try to do *anything* with the Address book function. I've also tried this with NT 3.51 and Windows95, and the same thing happens. Does anyone know if the Address book even works in Pine 3.95 under Windows? If so, what must I do to use it? Tim Buck * Systems Administrator * Recognition Research, Inc. PH 540/231-6500 * FAX 540/231-3568 * WEB http://www.rrinc.com/~tim EMAIL (primary) tim@rrinc.com (secondary) timbuck@webtv.net QUOTE "The U.S. Constitution is not a rough draft." -Pat Schroeder From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:44:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA18048 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:44:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA24657 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:40:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA24653 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:40:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaIQY-00038WC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 01:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cary Orange Subject: Pine for Intergraph/Clix? Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:03:49 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have or know of a place that I can get a Pine executable for an Intergraph machine running Clix OS. I think Clix is a flavor of Unix for running CAD type workstation applications. It's for a friend. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:09:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA02305 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:09:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA24140 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:05:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA24136 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:05:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaIrZ-00038WC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 02:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: Pine Source Code Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:15:55 -0600 Message-ID: References: <32af7a09.1485225@news.cadvision.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32af7a09.1485225@news.cadvision.com> On Thu, 12 Dec 1996 john@smith.doe wrote: > Anybody know where I can get the source code for Pine? ftp ftp.u.washington.edu, i think From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:34:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA20011 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA25197 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:22:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA25193 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:22:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaJ5H-00038XC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 02:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcheney@lexis.pop.upenn.edu (Timothy P. Cheney) Subject: Re: UNIX Pine reading mail on same server Date: 17 Dec 1996 15:38:12 GMT Message-ID: <596ep4$8vc@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <58q39d$ffg@epcot.pomona.edu> Jim Kieley (ŸŸŸŸŸúÈ6·jim@acb2.cgs.edu) wrote: : I have been flailing miserably trying to configure UNIX Pine to : work correctly on a box that uses Netscape's Mail server 2.02 which is : IMAP4 compliant. The problem has to do with the correct specification for : "inbox-path" in pine.conf. : The Netscape mail server seems to store unread mail in : /var/spool/mailbox. Directories are named Joe_Doe rather than given : a UNIX account name like doej. Inside the First_Last name directory : is a subdirectory called "in". How about for each user create a symbolic link ln -s /var/spool/mailbox/Joe_Doe /usr/spool/mail/doej ??? : > # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox : > # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). : > inbox-path= : I have tried numerous combinations of things including : inbox-path=inbox,inbox-path=,inbox-path=INBOX,/var/spool/mailbox/$USER. I : have tried hard coding /var/spool/mailbox/Joe_Doe in .pinerc while leaving : the pine.conf field blank. : Using a Pine client on a remote UNIX box works fine if I specify : {cgssun.cgs.edu}inbox. If I try this configuration with Pine running on the : server I get "Bad log in password and/or username". : Any help or ideas would be appreciated. : One other question. Is there a way to let a person logging into a : UNIX account on a machine running an IMAP4 server know that he/she has : mail waiting to be read. That is, can a terminal message be : automatically generated without firing up Pine. : Jim Kieley : jim@cgs.edu -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | tcheney@pop.upenn.edu | | Timothy P. Cheney (215) 898-3197 | | Population Studies Center | | 219 McNeil/6298 | | University of Pennsylvania | | Philadelphia, PA 19104 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:55:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA22917 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA24735 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:52:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA24731 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 02:52:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaJaN-00038XC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 02:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Enrico I. Pangan" Subject: Re: Can PINE use external address file? Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 12:05:08 -0800 Message-ID: References: <596207$q59@gamera.cbl.cees.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <596207$q59@gamera.cbl.cees.edu> Yes, definitely! All you have to do is... (1) quit pine, then you will go to the $ prompt. (2) at the $ prompt, type pico .addressbook or vi .addressess (3) you can now edit the .addressess file. You can also create your own file, using your own defined filename and then choose Setup(S):Config(C) from the main menu of Pine and change the default addressbook to you desired filename. Good luck! ......................................................................... ...... _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ ..................................... ..... _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................................... .... _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ .........................(632)127773090 ... _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ........................enrico i. pangan .. _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ .....................undergrad bcs upd.ph .............................................epangan@zeus.engg.upd.edu.ph On 17 Dec 1996, Fleet Teachout wrote: > Can I create an address list external to PINE and have PINE use that for > sending mail? If yes, how please. > > - fleet - > fleet@cbl.cees.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 03:59:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA21081 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 03:59:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA26514 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 03:56:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA26510 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 03:56:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaKXf-00038WC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 03:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Erik Olsson Subject: sent-mail Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 12:40:49 +0100 Message-ID: <32B7D841.4D6C@und.ida.liu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have problem when I want to list the letters in my sent-mail folder by the persons I've sent them to. At first they appear in that way but after a couple of days they are listed by the sender (my own name). What's the secret? = -- = *************************************************************** Erik Olsson Telefon 013-27 31 59 Drabantgatan 6, 1 tr E-post q96eriol@edu.ida.liu.se 583 14 Link=F6ping WWW http://und.ida.liu.se/~q96eriol *************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 04:23:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA02307 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 04:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA26129 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 04:21:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA26125 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 04:21:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaKyW-00038XC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 04:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: led@aquanet.co.il Subject: email Date: Wed, 18 Dec 96 12:06:51 GMT Message-ID: <850917941.564897@cache> anyon knows if there is a program that extract email address from text or from the neet or something like that? if yes pliz let me know bye email: led@aquanet.co.il From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 05:04:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA04696 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 05:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA27490 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 05:01:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA27486 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 05:01:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaLbk-00038WC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 05:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: How to access Newgroups from Pine?? Date: 16 Dec 1996 20:14:09 GMT Message-ID: <594aih$a8s@due.unit.no> References: <850442293.8293@dejanews.com> [Posted and mailed] In article <850442293.8293@dejanews.com>, wrote: >it says something about no remote news server being defined. [snip] >what are all the steps I should under-take in order to access newgroups >through Pine?? All you have to do is set the remote news server (Setup Config nntp-server) and restart pine. A newsgroup folder collection will be automatically created, and a .newsrc if it doesn't already exist. >By the way, in case I have to provide in pine, the name of a remote-news >server, kindly also tell me where I can find them. (I mean the list of >remote-news servers) I don't remember where to find that list, but the machine news.vsnl.net.in exists, so that is probably your local news server. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:19:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA28391 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:19:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA27348 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:16:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA27344 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:16:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaMmg-00038WC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 06:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: Pine Source Code Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:51:41 +0100 Message-ID: References: <32af7a09.1485225@news.cadvision.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32af7a09.1485225@news.cadvision.com> On Thu, 12 Dec 1996 john@smith.doe wrote: > Anybody know where I can get the source code for Pine? ftp to ftp.cac.washington.edu in the directory /pine \\// Peter - Who is Miss Christmas, and why should I merry her? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:26:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA29084 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:26:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA27457 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:23:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA27453 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:22:57 -0800 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 18 Dec 96 22:21:49 +0800 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:21:49 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Nathan D Richards cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Source Code In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 17 Dec 1996, Nathan D Richards wrote: > On Thu, 12 Dec 1996 john@smith.doe wrote: > > > Anybody know where I can get the source code for Pine? > ftp ftp.u.washington.edu, i think > ftp ftp.cac.washington.edu to be "sure". -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 07:21:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA05257 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 07:21:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA29129 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 07:16:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from neotek.tessier.com (neotek.tessier.com [206.229.212.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA29125 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 07:16:48 -0800 Received: from k2.ashpool.com (nathanr@k2.ashpool.com [206.229.212.10]) by neotek.tessier.com (8.7.5/8.6.10) with SMTP id FAA07259; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 05:57:51 -0600 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:16:34 -0600 (CST) From: Nathan D Richards To: Edward M Greshko cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Source Code In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Encrypted: PGP Organization: The @shpool Project X-Home-Page-URL: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 17 Dec 1996, Nathan D Richards wrote: > > > On Thu, 12 Dec 1996 john@smith.doe wrote: > > > > > Anybody know where I can get the source code for Pine? > > ftp ftp.u.washington.edu, i think > ftp ftp.cac.washington.edu > to be "sure". Oh yeah, my bad. Sorry. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:06:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA01777 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:05:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA29848 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:01:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com ([147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA29841 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:01:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaOOl-00038XC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 07:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Al Byers Subject: Using -i option Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:24:31 -0500 Message-ID: <32B7FE9F.76D7@cfw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I periodically perform this exercise in frustration by asking if anyone can tell me how to tab from one header field to the next using the initial keystroke option, -i. From the console, the tab or enter key works fine, but I cannot find a way to embed those keystrokes in my keystroke list. I can get into the compose mode all right, but then it interprets everything as an address. -- Al Byers Automation Group of Virginia, Inc. byersa@cfw.com P.O. Box 1091 540.949.8777 Waynesboro, VA 22980 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:09:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA27040 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA29941 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:05:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from beta.loyno.edu (beta.loyno.edu [141.164.1.44]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA29937 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:05:55 -0800 Received: by beta.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/31Oct96-0621AM) id AA02371; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:10:15 -0600 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:10:15 -0600 (CST) From: Russell Johnson To: pine Subject: subscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info Russell Johnson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:20:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA08314 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA01755 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:17:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA01744 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:17:01 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr23.interl.net [205.244.161.23]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA22570; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:13:31 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA00855; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:16:28 -0600 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:16:27 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Nathan D Richards cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using PGP with Pine for UNIX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Nathan D Richards wrote: > Is there a way to use PGP with Pine? If there is, please email me as I > haven't found it. Try the PGP User's Mailing List home page at http://pgp.rivertown.net/ There is a link to mkpgp2.1 which is a csh script. If you don't have their key, it will get it for you, etc., etc. You set it up as an alternate editor. It's very good, I've been using it for about 6 months. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMrgm4SGB07hAGnFhAQFUDwQAq58i2GDdEOyk2fj6iymMX6tpTnGLQrFA FkAudzscJ3q0Em3BIK5jJp9HLXOa6hXrVBFci/7stEAA9zlsaMfbgPZt/gJ2tTxs qjah4pvJzKTtRXd1QiuJO3fBBz/bk210Rvno9gGXAsc//4YC47YfXKiUfmGpBlhn AkilefsGSs8= =j7Ry -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @isonline.com, @usa.net Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:24:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA09818 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:24:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA00878 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:21:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from techunix.technion.ac.il (techunix.technion.ac.il [132.68.1.28]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA00843 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:20:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (daniel@localhost) by techunix.technion.ac.il (8.8.3/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA12187 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:19:46 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:19:45 +0200 (IST) From: Daniel Weinfeld To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HI Last week I am not cuccseede to work with the "Alternate Speller" (Control _) What's happed Sincerely \\\|||/// / O O \ | I | | \___/ | \___,___/ Danny Weinfeld From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:25:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA30615 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA01889 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:22:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from neotek.tessier.com (neotek.tessier.com [206.229.212.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA01884 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:21:56 -0800 Received: from k2.ashpool.com (nathanr@k2.ashpool.com [206.229.212.10]) by neotek.tessier.com (8.7.5/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA07556; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 07:48:11 -0600 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:20:01 -0600 (CST) From: Nathan D Richards To: Jason Englander cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using PGP with Pine for UNIX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Encrypted: PGP Organization: The @shpool Project X-Home-Page-URL: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Jason Englander wrote: > Try the PGP User's Mailing List home page at http://pgp.rivertown.net/ > There is a link to mkpgp2.1 which is a csh script. If you don't have their > key, it will get it for you, etc., etc. You set it up as an alternate > editor. It's very good, I've been using it for about 6 months. Got it thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:03:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA09474 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:03:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA03494 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:58:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yoda.neiu.edu (yoda.neiu.edu [143.43.160.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA03489 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:58:35 -0800 Received: from localhost by yoda.neiu.edu (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/22Nov96-0150PM) id AA02673; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:42:22 -0600 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 06:42:22 -0600 (CST) From: ozair noor To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: onoor@orion.it.luc.edu Subject: Pico Speller Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi:- I have installed Pico/pine first time on unix system. My problem is that whenever i use pico and do spell check it always says DONE SPELL CHECKING I have rebuild pico two three times for DIGITAL UNIX O/S but same result. YOur help will be appriciated. Thanks. Ozair From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:33:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA06934 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:33:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA05830 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:26:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA05825 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:26:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaRb0-00038WC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 11:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Randall Watson Subject: Re: My Name Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:19:14 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Enrico I. Pangan wrote: > Why is it that everytime i post a message to any newsgroups using pine, i > don't see my name in the index. Instead, I see the text "TO: " plus the > name of the newsgroups to which i sent my mail. This is true for personal > messages i send to other people. > > As proof, look at the index of this newsgroup. You won't see "Enrico I. > Pangan" but instead see, "TO: comp.mail.pine". Why? Help me! > > ......................................................................... > ...... _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ ..................................... > ..... _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................................... > .... _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ .........................(632)127773090 > ... _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ........................enrico i. pangan > .. _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ .....................undergrad bcs upd.ph > .............................................epangan@zeus.engg.upd.edu.ph > Pine figures that you know you sent it so it shows you where you sent it. When I look at your message in the index, it shows your name and not "TO: comp.mail.pine". When you see this message in the index you will see my name, but I will see "TO: comp.mail.pine". Rest assured that everybody but you will see your name. -- | Randall Watson - email at rwatson@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu | | or at rwatson@students.uiuc.edu | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:43:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA30891 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA06993 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:36:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA06989 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:36:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaRnD-00038WC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 11:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shawn Kearley Subject: PINE for VMS-VAX and VMS-AXP Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:26:55 -0800 Message-ID: <32B5CCAE.6AB@nfopwer.nf.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am wondering if anyone can direct me to a version of PINE for OpenVMS VAX and OpenVMS AXP, if it is available for these platforms. Thanks in advance for any help Shawn Kearley From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:11:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA12337 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA08440 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:07:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adelicia.belmont.edu ([198.146.88.12]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA08433 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:07:07 -0800 From: robbinsa@BELMONT.EDU Received: from 198.146.92.64 by BELMONT.EDU (PMDF V5.0-6 #16821) id <01ID5RCB5FM8003YNU@BELMONT.EDU>; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:06:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:05:51 +0000 Subject: binhex 4.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: <32B8084F.CBA@belmont.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-URL: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00060.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > [Prev][Next][Index][Thread] > > Re: Need HELP! BinHEX conversion? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > * To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > * Subject: Re: Need HELP! BinHEX conversion? > * From: jrh@swl.msd.ray.com (John Howley {91404}) > * Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 17:49:39 GMT > * References: <3fmv6r$86n@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> > > > * Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Ralf Matthies (matthies@rzserv2.fh-lueneburg.de) wrote: > >: On 19 Jan 1995, Richard Hsiung wrote: > > >: > I got a mail from someone with an attachment (supposedly), well, in the > >: > message, it tells me I need BinHex 4.0 to convert it?! Where do I find > >: > BinHex and how do I get this attachment back into file form? > > >: you will find BinHex on the following aFTP servers: > > >: ftp.demon.co.uk /simtel20/msdos/mac/binhex13.zip > >: micros.hensa.ac.uk /mirrors/simtel/msdos/mac/binhex13.zip > > >: PS: Ask me, if you have more questions... ;-) > How do I get to the ftp servers? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:56:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA11628 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA11744 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:52:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA11736 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:52:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaVhr-00038XC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 15:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Lee Crites (arl)" Subject: splitting digests into individual messages... Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:06:10 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'd like to split out the individual messages from the digests I've got. Is there a simple way of doing this? Thanks muchly... Lee From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:35:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA16518 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA12667 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:30:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA12663 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:30:23 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA25657; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:28:26 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:28:26 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: "Lee Crites (arl)" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: splitting digests into individual messages... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you are subscribed to a mailing list that runs on listserv 1.8C, you have the option of having your digests sent to you as a message with a mime-encoded attachment for each message. Hope this helps. Bruce On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Lee Crites (arl) wrote: > > I'd like to split out the individual messages from the digests I've got. > Is there a simple way of doing this? > > Thanks muchly... > > Lee > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:08:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA17602 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA14072 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:04:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns1.arlut.utexas.edu (ns1.arlut.utexas.edu [129.116.212.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA14062 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:04:01 -0800 Received: from mail-firewall.arlut.utexas.edu (ns1.arlut.utexas.edu [129.116.212.1]) by ns1.arlut.utexas.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23697; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:03:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from mamba.arlut.utexas.edu (mamba.arlut.utexas.edu [129.116.176.42]) by mail-firewall.arlut.utexas.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA23691; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:03:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost by mamba.arlut.utexas.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA17664; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:03:38 -0600 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:03:37 -0700 (CST) From: "Lee Crites (arl)" X-Sender: crites@mamba To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: splitting digests into individual messages... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Bruce Toews wrote: > If you are subscribed to a mailing list that runs on listserv 1.8C, you > have the option of having your digests sent to you as a message with a > mime-encoded attachment for each message. Hope this helps. That would be nice, but I believe the ones I am interested in are all generated by majordomo instead of listserv. Thanks anyway... Lee From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:16:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA17997 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA14309 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:12:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA14305 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:12:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaX0g-00038XC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 17:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ANSI escape code support in 3.95? Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:19:56 -0800 Message-ID: References: <59480a$ifm@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <59480a$ifm@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> On 16 Dec 1996, Steve Howie wrote: > We recently jumped from Pine3.91 to Pine3.95 (HP-UX 9.05) and found that > ANSI character codes in the message text body ( e.g. bolding of text ) no > longer seems to work. The codes are just displayed unfiltered and not > interpreted. Is this a function of the new display filtering code in 3.92 > onwards? Actually, Pine 3.92 and later _filter_ the control characters out by default. The default was changed to protect the users with terminals that can't handle ANSI characters (some terminals will lock completely with certain sequences). > If so, are there any workarounds anyone knows of that would > allow these characters to be interpreted. You can revert to the old behavior by selecting the pass-control-characters-as-is feature in the Setup/Config screen. > A user likes to have fancy bold boxes around their .sig This is not > a high priority item - I just need to know if this is do-able. Just be aware that not everyone has terminals that support ANSI controls... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8584.44 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:21:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA18094 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA13823 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:17:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA13816 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:17:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaX6X-00038bC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 17:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: showie@uoguelph.ca.foo (Steve Howie) Subject: ANSI escape code support in 3.95? Date: 16 Dec 1996 19:30:18 GMT Message-ID: <59480a$ifm@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> We recently jumped from Pine3.91 to Pine3.95 (HP-UX 9.05) and found that ANSI character codes in the message text body ( e.g. bolding of text ) no longer seems to work. The codes are just displayed unfiltered and not interpreted. Is this a function of the new display filtering code in 3.92 onwards? If so, are there any workarounds anyone knows of that would allow these characters to be interpreted. A user likes to have fancy bold boxes around their .sig This is not a high priority item - I just need to know if this is do-able. I checked the change logs for the various releases and couldn't see anything definitive. Thanks for any info. Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:22:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA17836 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA13858 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:19:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from blaise.dfci.harvard.edu (blaise.dfci.harvard.edu [134.174.51.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA13854 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:19:08 -0800 Received: from crunch.dfci.harvard.edu (crunch [134.174.51.16]) by blaise.dfci.harvard.edu (8.8.4/8.8.3) with ESMTP id UAA02240 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:18:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ellozy@localhost) by crunch.dfci.harvard.edu (8.8.4/8.7.2) id UAA06585 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:18:57 -0500 (EST) From: Mohamed el Lozy Message-Id: <199612190118.UAA06585@crunch.dfci.harvard.edu> Subject: NFS exporting of mail spool on pure Solaris 2.5 network To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:18:57 -0500 (EST) X-Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute X-phone: 617-632-3034 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have a pure Solaris 2.5 network, and are thinking of using pine. We very much want to NFS export /var/mail, and are not sure what the warnings in the FAQ really mean. So we would very much appreciate as much input as possible. Please remember that we have, by design, a homogeneous network, and do not face interoperability problems. Thanks! Mohamed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:42:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA06054 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA14908 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:37:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA14904 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:37:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaXQH-00038XC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 17:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: news@HAMMER.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <594b59$j80@oolong.memphis.edu> Subject: cmsg cancel <594b59$j80@oolong.memphis.edu> no reply ignore Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 20:50:30 GMT ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov. Make Money Fast has been posted thousands of times, enough to qualify as cancel-on-sight spam. The chain letter scheme it describes is illegal in many countries. For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:51:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA04423 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA15083 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:48:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA15076 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:48:49 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 19 Dec 96 09:47:37 +0800 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:42:53 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Steve Howie cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ANSI escape code support in 3.95? In-Reply-To: <59480a$ifm@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 16 Dec 1996, Steve Howie wrote: > We recently jumped from Pine3.91 to Pine3.95 (HP-UX 9.05) and found that > ANSI character codes in the message text body ( e.g. bolding of text ) no > longer seems to work. The codes are just displayed unfiltered and not > interpreted. Is this a function of the new display filtering code in 3.92 > onwards? If so, are there any workarounds anyone knows of that would > allow these characters to be interpreted. A user likes to have fancy bold > boxes around their .sig This is not a high priority item - I just need to > know if this is do-able. I checked the change logs for the various > releases and couldn't see anything definitive. > > Thanks for any info. Take a look at: FEATURE: pass-control-characters-as-is This feature controls how certain characters contained in messages are displayed. If set, all characters in a message will be sent to the screen. Normally, control characters are automatically suppressed in order to avoid inadvertently changing terminal setup parameters. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:10:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA17307 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA14603 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:57:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA14593 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:57:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaXgD-00038XC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 17:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: madhat@c2.org.anti-spam (Mad Hatter) Subject: Re: Bulk Mail Software Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 04:40:39 GMT Message-ID: <597sk9$8ef@tofu.alt.net> References: <597n75$k57@crawler.dlc.fi> Content-Type: text/plain On 18 Dec 1996 03:08:21 GMT, jorge@mailloop.com spewed out the following : >-: >-:Mailloop is bulk-mailing software that will revolutionize how >-:people advertise on the internet. >-: >-:See what all the fuss is about: >-: >-:http://www.mailloop.com >-: you sure are trying to cover the bases here arent you jorge, leme gues if it says mail in the header you think they want your trash? HINT ONE the people here are the ones who want your trash disposed of, net abuse is abuse plain and simple has nothing to do with having your own domain yourstill a piece of shit abuseing the net from another domain. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:19:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA03307 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:19:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA14932 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:12:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA14922 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:12:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaXut-00038XC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 18:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ambrose@mercury.interpath.com (Michael's Music Service) Subject: Re: Printing from Pine Date: 16 Dec 1996 13:42:08 GMT Message-ID: <593jjg$43l@redstone.interpath.net> References: Bruce Jenks (bnjenks@cpcug.org) wrote: : ... the new pine and we have trouble : printing all of the text of our messages. Unless it is a very short : message, the middle or end of the text is missing. Same here. The last screen doesn't print but the bottom help lines do. Perhaps if we turned them off to print? Cheers! Michael -- MICHAEL'S MUSIC SERVICE | CIS: 70731/3403 |---| Organ Music Our Specialty 4146 Sheridan Drive | ambrose@mercury.interpath.cam |----| John Apple Charlotte, NC 28205-5654| (704) 567-1066 |-------------| Michael Johnston Christ Episcopal Church |---| St. Gabriel's RC Church |--| Temple Beth-El |--> Support the Blue Ribbon Campaign for free speech online () <--| |--> http://www.eff.org/BlueRibbon/bluehtml.html /\ <--| From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:56:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA08478 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:56:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA16736 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:52:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA16732 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:52:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaZTJ-00038XC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 19:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcheney@lexis.pop.upenn.edu (Timothy P. Cheney) Subject: Re: America on line Date: 17 Dec 1996 15:42:53 GMT Message-ID: <596f1t$8vc@netnews.upenn.edu> References: Are you sending your mails as MIME attachments like your posting to this group? Maybe that has something to do with it. Carol H Pfeffer (cpfeffer@umabnet.ab.umd.edu) wrote: : This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, : while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. : Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. : ---2034237178-1712840087-850762716=:75166 : Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII : Content-ID: : Gentlepersons, : Could you help me, please? I really want to understand why my associates : who have "America on Line" cannot receive my E-mail messages. I can send : messages to other universities, and those who have Erol's, but people who : have AOL, cannot receive my messages. : I can also be reached at (410) 328-2185. Thank you for any help you can : give me. : Sincerely, : Carol Pfeffer : Administrative Assistant : ---2034237178-1712840087-850762716=:75166-- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | tcheney@pop.upenn.edu | | Timothy P. Cheney (215) 898-3197 | | Population Studies Center | | 219 McNeil/6298 | | University of Pennsylvania | | Philadelphia, PA 19104 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:25:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA12294 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:25:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA18620 for pine-info-out; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:18:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA18616 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:18:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vack6-00038XC; Wed, 18 Dec 96 23:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrewh@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Subject: Re: why wont ARROWS work in PINE w/ MAC? Date: 17 Dec 1996 16:08:10 GMT Message-ID: <596gha$i48$2@news.sas.ab.ca> References: <587bkn$p9h@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <594c4l$7c1@nexp.crl.com> Anirvan Chatterjee (anirvan@crl.com) wrote: : Christian Doellner (cdoell@prairienet.org) wrote: : : Why wont moving the cursor with arrows NOT work with my MAC : : (the arrows work in word-processing). : What terminal emulator are you using? That's probably where the : problem is. Try using Zterm 1.0.1, it works for me. -- andrew >< ********************************** /\ * Wishing you and yours * //\\ * all the best * ///\\\ * that the season has to offer * [] ********************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:33:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA22368 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA19392 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:28:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA19388 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:28:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vadot-00038bC; Thu, 19 Dec 96 00:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jakob Buch Subject: Experience using IMAP from U. of W.? Date: 13 Dec 1996 09:00:43 +0100 Message-ID: Hi, I like the imap-4.1 package from the University of Washington, but I cannot figure out how to use the c-client to connect to a plain POP3 server and read the mail from there! Any of you got any experiences (sure there are!) using this package in connection with POP3? Maybe point me to some educational examples (not pine or other imap-utils from U. of W.)? Thanks! And merry christmas!! /Jake From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:33:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA21922 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA19984 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:28:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA19980 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:28:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vadpI-00038cC; Thu, 19 Dec 96 00:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mozilla 3.0" Subject: Re: header parsing pine problem... Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 19:05:48 -0500 Message-ID: <32B1EF5C.AF@no.spam> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bruno Boettcher wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > > > You *don't* have Subject: any more - the X-Status: is followed by blank > > line, and anything after it becomes a body :-( It is problem of your local > > mail delivery program, which treats X400-* header as start of *body*. > what about lines beginning with trailing blanks? > > > > > But I didn't spend time to investigate it - I am pretty happy with > > sendmail/procmail/Pine. > i am now using qmail/deliver/pine, but i had exactly the same problem as i > was using sendmail/deliver/pine.... > > i suspect it is more a problem with the X.400/SMTP gateway than one of my > local system.... > But i think that i have not enough authority to let it fix by the > responsible persons :) > thsu i need a local fix... The problem is not with pine. I had this problem. Upgraded my sendmail/sendmail.cf and local delivery program and it went away. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:35:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA22267 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:35:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA19978 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:28:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA19974 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:28:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vadom-00038XC; Thu, 19 Dec 96 00:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ahk@chinet.chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman) Subject: References headers (was: Feature request for future.) Date: 13 Dec 1996 01:43:56 -0600 Message-ID: <58r1fs$73p@chinet.chinet.com> References: <01bbe79c$782bc730$828c60cc@ambra> In article , Peter Karlsson wrote: >On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, William C Bonner wrote: >> Netscape adds a "References:" header in a reply message. It references the >> message ID of the message that is being replied to. >References are (afaik) only meant to be used in Usenet news. Pine supports >them there. There is also a References header in mail. This is meant to be used to refer to other e-mail messages that are related to the message being sent, but not one of its precursors. Its counterpart in news is See-Also. The References header in news corresponds to the In-Reply-To header in mail. Often, gateways between mail and news don't change In-Reply-To to References, which means that the user can't read his news threaded. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:31:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA23072 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:31:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA21599 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:28:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA21595 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:28:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vagcJ-00038XC; Thu, 19 Dec 96 03:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cary Orange Subject: Re: find algorithm of MIME Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:25:15 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32B79D43.2782@mahidol.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32B79D43.2782@mahidol.ac.th> Hi, I think the algorithm is documented in RFC-1522. This should be available on the RFC web page at ds.internic.net. Also, the MIME source code is available from ftp.cac.washington.edu and has an implementation of it in source code. Check the "mail" directory for the c-client library on this FTP site. Cary On 17 Dec 1996, Sutat Saetang wrote: > Hi.. > I would like to alogrithm of MIME or source code of MIME. please you > suggest me. > > thank > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:31:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA31513 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:31:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA22213 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:28:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA22209 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:28:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vagdL-00038bC; Thu, 19 Dec 96 03:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Morneau Subject: News Groups? Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:44:38 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm new to pine, and to e-mail. Can any one suggest any good news groups I might what to subscribe to. How do I get there names? Thanks for your help! Paul s589613@uottawa.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:02:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA04920 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA25016 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 07:59:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vega.unitbv.ro (vega.unitbv.ro [193.230.54.27]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA25009 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 07:58:38 -0800 Received: (from ciobanc1@localhost) by vega.unitbv.ro (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA01856; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 13:21:06 +0200 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 13:21:06 +0200 (GMT+0200) From: KATALIN AQUARIUS To: INFO Pine Subject: Hallo! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Send to ciobanc1@vega.unitbv.ro THE NEWS!!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:57:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA27265 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA26171 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:51:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA26167 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:51:29 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA06246; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:51:24 -0800 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:51:23 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Jakob Buch cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Experience using IMAP from U. of W.? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Jakob, If you are developing software based on the c-client libraries, you might want to consider joining the c-client developers list: c-client-request@cac.washington.edu -teg On 13 Dec 1996, Jakob Buch wrote: > > Hi, > > I like the imap-4.1 package from the University of Washington, but I > cannot figure out how to use the c-client to connect to a plain POP3 > server and read the mail from there! > > Any of you got any experiences (sure there are!) using this package in > connection with POP3? Maybe point me to some educational examples (not > pine or other imap-utils from U. of W.)? > > Thanks! And merry christmas!! > > /Jake > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:58:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA26100 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA26243 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:54:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA26235 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:54:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0valiC-00038XC; Thu, 19 Dec 96 08:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Quoting all text Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:03:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: <597ccp$bph@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <597ccp$bph@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 18 Dec 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > I have noticed the following problem. Someone sent me a message. But I > had to press V to view the message. And then I noticed difficulty in > quiting this text when replying. How can I quote these attachments? There is a configuration option to include attachments in the reply. Toggle that on. > Another Pine question. Is there any way I can put more than one address > in my addressbook but as one entry, tied to one nickname? In the addressbook, you can set up distribution lists, so that a nickname stands for any (reasonable) number of addresses all at once. It should be explained in the online help screens for the addressbook. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:43:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA31975 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA01257 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:39:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA01244 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:39:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vaoFR-00038XC; Thu, 19 Dec 96 11:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Untitled Date: 18 Dec 1996 00:20:01 GMT Message-ID: References: On Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:17:37 -0600, Nathan D Richards wrote: >On 9 Dec 1996, Russell Johnson wrote: > >> subscribe pine-info Russell Johnson >This isn't a mailing list, it's a newsgroup. Which happens to be gatewayed to the pine-info mailing list ... that Russell Johnson attempted to subscribe to. Later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research University of Wisconsin-Madison From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 16:53:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA05841 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 16:53:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA08456 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 16:50:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA08450 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 16:50:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vat69-00038bC; Thu, 19 Dec 96 16:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: How do I make a Kill file Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:16:52 -0600 Message-ID: References: <32ac9f09.7407901@sys14.dx.deere.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32ac9f09.7407901@sys14.dx.deere.com> On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Bryan Ragon wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to create a kill file for pine on a AIX > box? I'm interested in killing email not usenet postings. Thanks. > Bryan try man procmail or man filter, that's what you need. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:58:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA07506 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:58:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA10635 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:55:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA10631 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:55:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vav4I-00038XC; Thu, 19 Dec 96 18:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbgeo002@huey.csun.edu (jeffrey trust) Subject: Re: Field To: problem References: Message-ID: <32b89cf6.0@newz.csun.edu> Date: 19 Dec 96 01:40:06 GMT Andrey V Shain (dron@raatp.msk.ru) wrote: > When I attempt replay to any message, pine put REAL NAME and then addres > in To: field. As example To: Andrey Shain There isn't a problem with this. Pine only cares about what's inside < >. In fact, pine will complain if you try to form an invalid address (i.e., an address without anything after the '@'). Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Trust (jtrust@csun.edu). Student, Dept. of Geological Sciences, California State University, Northridge (for which I don't speak). "The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves." -John Muir http://www.csun.edu/~hbgeo002/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:40:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA27693 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA11086 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:20:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA11082 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:20:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vavTE-00038XC; Thu, 19 Dec 96 19:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Luis Quintana Subject: Re: binhex 4.0 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:24:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32B8084F.CBA@belmont.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32B8084F.CBA@belmont.edu> To get to the ftp server, if you are using UNIX: ftp ftp.demon.co.uk login you enter "anonymous" password you enter your email address at the "ftp" prompt, you may enter a "?" for help. Regards. Luis. On 18 Dec 1996 robbinsa@BELMONT.EDU wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [Prev][Next][Index][Thread] > > > > Re: Need HELP! BinHEX conversion? > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > * To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > * Subject: Re: Need HELP! BinHEX conversion? > > * From: jrh@swl.msd.ray.com (John Howley {91404}) > > * Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 17:49:39 GMT > > * References: <3fmv6r$86n@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> > > > > > > * Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >Ralf Matthies (matthies@rzserv2.fh-lueneburg.de) wrote: > > >: On 19 Jan 1995, Richard Hsiung wrote: > > > > >: > I got a mail from someone with an attachment (supposedly), well, in the > > >: > message, it tells me I need BinHex 4.0 to convert it?! Where do I find > > >: > BinHex and how do I get this attachment back into file form? > > > > >: you will find BinHex on the following aFTP servers: > > > > >: ftp.demon.co.uk /simtel20/msdos/mac/binhex13.zip > > >: micros.hensa.ac.uk /mirrors/simtel/msdos/mac/binhex13.zip > > > > >: PS: Ask me, if you have more questions... ;-) > > > > How do I get to the ftp servers? > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:49:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA07572 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA11261 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:40:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA11250 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:40:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vavmE-00038XC; Thu, 19 Dec 96 19:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Sent Message Archives Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 21:23:44 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just noticed that one year of archived sent messages were changed from who they were sent to, to my name or address, which means that they have to be opened to see where they went. Question 1. How did this happen? Question 2. Are they correctible? Victor From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:38:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA07000 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:38:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA12134 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:35:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acme.csusb.edu (acme.csusb.edu [139.182.2.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA12130 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:35:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (gharrell@localhost) by acme.csusb.edu (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA15338; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:33:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:33:16 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Harrell To: "Houghton Mifflin Pub. Corp." cc: Guy Harrell , Ray Haynes , White House , John Tavaglione , Charlene Nguyen , Charlene Nguyen , PineBoard , Ted Weggeland , UCR-Ray , Michael Webster , Brian Arnold Subject: Book's for sick kid's! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear, Houghton Mifflin Pub. Corp. When I heard all I had to do was E-mail your company to have a book sent to a sick kid and that I should pass the word I did. Hopefully you will recieve an E-mail from these fine people especially since they are all associated with education in some fashion. Thanks for caring. Guy A. Harrell P.S. note to CC's all you've got to do is E-mail them and they will give a book to sick children in need. They recieved 23,000 E-mails last year they have about 3,400 before today and for every E-mail they recieve they give another book, so pass the work quick. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:54:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA20007 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:54:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA12371 for pine-info-out; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:51:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tor-srs2.netcom.ca (tor-srs2.netcom.ca [207.93.1.164]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA12367 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:51:19 -0800 From: Nima@netcom.ca Received: from navid-mehregani by tor-srs2.netcom.ca (8.7.5/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id XAA29625; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 23:51:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32BA1B10.1314@netcom.ca> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 23:50:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NC320 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: BOMBS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm a 25 year old man, in university. I've been trying to make some kind of explosive stuff for my big project I'm doing, so far I've had failed because I don't have a lot expriences about bombs can you please tell me how to make a simple bomb without using Plutonium or other products that are hard to find? please send me your letter at Nima@netcom.ca I would really appriciated if you help me on this. Thank you very much From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 01:54:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA10155 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 01:54:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA16210 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 01:51:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA16206 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 01:51:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vb1Zj-00038XC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 01:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: Moving the status-line. Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:23:17 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, William F. Acker (WB2FLW) +1-303-777-8123 wrote: > Also, it would be neat to make Pine scroll the text Can't you use the arrow keys to scroll the text? That works in all the versions I've tried (Sun, Linux, PC/DOS, PC/Win16, PC/Win32) \\// Peter - Who is Miss Christmas, and why should I merry her? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 03:48:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA11245 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 03:48:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA17500 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 03:36:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA17496 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 03:36:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vb3Cg-00038XC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 03:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjenks@solaria.sol.net (Mark Jenks) Subject: Re: Bulk Mail Software Date: 18 Dec 1996 20:21:36 GMT Message-ID: <850940476.345737@smyrno.sol.net> References: <597n75$k57@crawler.dlc.fi> <597sk9$8ef@tofu.alt.net> Mad Hatter (madhat@c2.org.anti-spam) wrote: : On 18 Dec 1996 03:08:21 GMT, jorge@mailloop.com spewed out the following : : >-: : >-:Mailloop is bulk-mailing software that will revolutionize how : >-:people advertise on the internet. : >-: : >-:See what all the fuss is about: : >-: : >-:http://www.mailloop.com : >-: : you sure are trying to cover the bases here arent you jorge, leme gues if it : says mail in the header you think they want your trash? : HINT ONE the people here are the ones who want your trash disposed of, net abuse : is abuse plain and simple has nothing to do with having your own domain : yourstill a piece of shit abuseing the net from another domain. Wow, talk about a looser. Look at the groups that are in this header. What an awful selection. Mark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 06:35:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA32090 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 06:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA19588 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 06:31:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA19584 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 06:31:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vb5xv-00038XC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 06:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Newsrc formats compatible? Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 21:07:10 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Are the newsrc formats for the PCPine versions compatible with the Linux version? (I.e can I have Linux use a symbolic link to my PCPine newsrc file?) \\// Peter - dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 07:08:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA03777 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 07:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA20026 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 07:03:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us (burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us [204.91.160.98]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA20022 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 07:03:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (rcummins@localhost) by burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA09720; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:03:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:03:24 -0500 (EST) From: Ray Cummins To: Nima@netcom.ca cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: BOMBS In-Reply-To: <32BA1B10.1314@netcom.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 19 Dec 1996 Nima@netcom.ca wrote: > Hi, I'm a 25 year old man, in university. I've been trying to make some > kind of explosive stuff for my big project I'm doing, so far I've had > failed because I don't have a lot expriences about bombs can you please > tell me how to make a simple bomb without using Plutonium or other > products that are hard to find? > please send me your letter at Nima@netcom.ca > I would really appriciated if you help me on this. > > Thank you very much > Fill a large spray bottle with gasoline, go into a small room and start spraying. When the bottle's empty, light a match. Merry Christmas! P.S. I take no responsibilty for any damage to body or property caused by the above statement. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 07:10:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA13153 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 07:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA20194 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 07:06:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA20189 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 07:06:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA10596 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:03:43 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:03:42 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine and Date Stamps Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I haven't received any answers yet regarding the fact that Pine puts a control-A in my message header instead of the CST for the time zone. Can someone tell me where Pine gets this information from? Maybe I can start from there. Thank you. Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:08:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA15261 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:08:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA22091 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:02:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA22087 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:02:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vb8KU-00038bC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 09:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.helsinki.fi (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: ";" option Date: 19 Dec 1996 06:16:37 GMT Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Edward M Greshko: > This is an "easy" one to miss... > > FEATURE: enable-aggregate-command-set > > Setting this feature enables the commands and subcommands that relate to > performing operations on more than one message at a time. We call these > "aggregate operations". And why must that feature be specifically enabled? What harms could there be if it was always active, without options? -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:50:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA05211 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA24554 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:42:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA24550 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:42:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vb9pG-00038XC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 10:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and Date Stamps Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:26:39 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine calls the tzset(3) function and reads the time zone from the tzname[] global variable. See the man page for tzset(3)... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8603.84 On 20 Dec 1996, Bruce Toews wrote: > From: Bruce Toews > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Pine and Date Stamps > Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:10:26 -0800 > Organization: PSGnet mail to news gate > Sender: nobody@psg.com > Message-ID: > NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.psg.com > X-M2n: psg.com > > I haven't received any answers yet regarding the fact that Pine puts a > control-A in my message header instead of the CST for the time zone. Can > someone tell me where Pine gets this information from? Maybe I can start > from there. Thank you. > > Bruce > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:24:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA21225 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA27582 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:06:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gate.cfe.gob.mx (gate.cfe.gob.mx [159.16.0.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA27565 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:06:36 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by gate.cfe.gob.mx (8.7.6/8.7.3) id NAA32572; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:12:14 -0600 Received: from unknown(159.16.210.3) by gate.cfe.gob.mx via smap (V1.3) id sma032569; Fri Dec 20 13:12:11 1996 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:55:21 -0600 (CST) From: Jorge Villanueva To: Simon Bradley cc: D4txy0.5uL@news.hawaii.edu, Lee Ann Sakihara , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, GASDAILY@pasha.com, Salvador de la Mora , Paco Cortez , Francisco de la Parra , Carlos Villanueva , Juan Ignacio Vanegas , Hector Angulo , Martin Gonzalez , Alejandro Varela , Informaticos de Generacion --Alejandro Varela , Carlos Lopez , Daniel Tenorio , Hector Angulo , Juan Ignacio Vanegas , Jaime Moctezuma , Lorenzo Morales , Manuel Alvarez , Mariano Gonzalez , Raul Meza , Tere del Moral Subject: UU-decode an attached file in ASCII Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 961220 fri 14:55 Mexico City Simon Bradley I received an e-mail that has an attachment file within the body of the text (something like an ASCII file within the text). I understand that you have been dealing with UU-decode and e-mail. I quote: "If you're sent a uuencoded file as an attachment (though I don't see why anyone would use both!), you can (in Pine 3.9x) V (View) the attachment, then | (Pipe) it to uudecode." But it doesn't work fine with me, I issue the following commands: 1) In Pine (v3.91 in Unix) I receive the e-mail with the attached file, with the ASCII file within the text. 2) I Export the whole message to a file (i.e. email.txt) in my Unix disk 3) I edit (with Pico) this email.txt file, and I add an End line at the end of the "ASCII" lines. At the beginning of the "ASCII" part it says: Begin 666 gf.pdf 4) When I run the uudecode command in Unix it says: Short file $ uudecode email.txt Short file but it generates de correspondent gf.pdf file 5) But the application program, that it was the creator of this gf.pdf, can not read it What can I do?. Will you be so kind and help me. Jorge Villanueva office [52] (5) 595 5400 ext 5665 Comision Federal de Electricidad fax [52] (5) 595 5400 ext 5736 home [52] (5) 595 6468 email jvillanueva@cfe.gob.mx -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reference: Re: Does .mailcap support uudecode? http://www1.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.03/msg00065.html To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Does .mailcap support uudecode? From: Brad Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 17:18:19 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu If you're sent a uuencoded file as an attachment (though I don't see why anyone would use both!), you can (in Pine 3.9x) V (View) the attachment, then | (Pipe) it to uudecode. ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another reference From GASDAILY@pasha.com From: "by way of Francisco de la Parra " To: Jorge Villanueva Subject: Gas Daily Gas Daily Dear Francisco: I am sorry we're having problems with the attached GD.PDF file. I am attaching the (binary) file to my (ASCII) e-mail, but it appears your e-mail software is reattaching it. I believe the problem is that our system UU-encodes binary files for transmission over the Internet (all files must be in ASCII text to be transmitted). This means your system must use UU-decoding to turn the file back into a binary file. I am guessing your system is using a different encryption method, namely MIME. For the purposes of sending you a copy of Gas Daily, the problem can be resolved in a number of ways. 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Can anyone please tell me how to get PINE to forward my mail to another email address while I am on vacation? I'm on a UNIX system at work with a firewall and will be out for a week and wish to receive my mail at another location. Thanks so much. Sandra Friedman International Information Specialist National Criminal Justice Reference Service From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:50:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA19164 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA29820 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:42:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA29816 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:42:08 -0800 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp4.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp4.UU.NET [192.48.96.35]) id QQbuys22168; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp4.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:42:07 -0500 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA851120688 Fri, 20 Dec 96 14:24:48 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 14:24:48 Message-Id: <9611208511.AA851120688@mailya.yakima.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help please (UNIX forwarding mail) Sandra: To get PINE to forward your e-mail on a UNIX system, simply create a text file in your home directory called ".forward" and include a one-line entry for your new e-mail address: .forward username@company.com That's all there is to it. - Michael ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Help please Author: Sandra Friedman xORIC Subject: Help please at INTERNET Date: 12/20/96 1:43 PM Hi there! Can anyone please tell me how to get PINE to forward my mail to another email address while I am on vacation? I'm on a UNIX system at work with a firewall and will be out for a week and wish to receive my mail at another location. Thanks so much. Sandra Friedman International Information Specialist National Criminal Justice Reference Service From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:01:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA11497 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA00282 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:57:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA00278 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:57:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbDps-00038XC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 14:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rwockner@netcom.com (Rex Wockner) Subject: ??Import pine adr book to Eudora?? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:05:43 GMT I'm switching from pine e-mail on a unix shell account to eudora e-mail on a slip/ppp account. How do I import my huge pine addressbook to eudora, hopefully keeping pine mailing lists intact? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:03:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA23575 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA00288 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:57:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA00284 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:57:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbDry-00038cC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 14:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrey V Shain Subject: Field To: problem Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 02:24:38 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello ! When I attempt replay to any message, pine put REAL NAME and then addres in To: field. As example To: Andrey Shain And I must every time delete real name manualy Can anybody help me ? -==- Andrey V Shain Chief of computer center E-mail: dron@raatp.msk.ru Phohe: +7 (095) 700-0870, 700-0871 dron@ambagro.ru Fax: +7 (095) 700-0673, 700-0669 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:12:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA22793 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA00422 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:57:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA00418 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:57:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbDry-00038bC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 14:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrey V Shain Subject: can anybody help me turn of BASE64 ? Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 02:21:41 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello ! Pine send letters in base64 Many peoples have problems when attempt replay on my cyrillic letters. How can I turn off base64 if it possible ? -==- Andrey V Shain Chief of computer center E-mail: dron@raatp.msk.ru Phohe: +7 (095) 700-0870, 700-0871 dron@ambagro.ru Fax: +7 (095) 700-0673, 700-0669 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:14:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA04355 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA02018 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:02:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA02014 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:02:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbEqL-00038XC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 15:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Melusky" Subject: UW PINE from home/ Eudora? Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 03:00:07 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi All, I am at the University of Washington using PINE from home. I heard from someone that I maybe can use Eudora Pro to UW instead of PINE or with PINE or something similar? Eudora would be nicer than Pine from home, (no offense) Thanks for the info, ya'll, J ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ Our page. _ _ __ __ Wagner Codes: _| \_) |_ (_/ _| a+--f--e--d-b++g+w+v (_ _ _) _ (_ Puzzle |_( )_|__( >__| By Jon and Randy R. |_ _| |_ http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7889 _) |_ _( mailto:whatfer@u.washington.edu /_ _|_ ___ | Windows 95, Micron 133mhz, Seattle USA (_< (_) ^ ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:51:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA11424 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA02862 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:48:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA02857 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:48:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbFZn-00038bC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 16:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: auto kill Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:41:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 16 Dec 1996 ebuljuba@stutz.iupui.edu wrote: > Could you please email me on a way to access a news group and > then use some kind of an "auto kill" command so that whenever a posting is > submitted from a particular address, it is automatically "killed" without > me having to see it displayed when I used my account to access newsgroups. There is no way currently to do this with Pine. In the opinion of some people, the lack of killfile capability is a rather glaring and major shortcoming of Pine as a newsreader. Some day.... Some day.... On a Un*x-like system, I use a kludge involving trn. It isn't perfect, but it's better than nothing. However, it has nothing to do with Pine as such, so I won't go into in on this newsgroup. If you are on a Un*x-like system and are interested, email me and I will send you the script, although you will have to learn about trn killfiles on your own. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:01:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA10213 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA03127 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:58:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA03123 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:58:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbFjA-00038XC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 16:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Procmail help needed, please Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:43:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Online Corruption wrote on comp.mail.pine: > Hullo. I am very very new to UNIX and I need some step by step help in > setting up Procmail and a recipe. [...] Your question is important and meaningful, but it doesn't have anything to do with the purpose of this newsgroup, which is Pine, not Procmail. There is a mailing list dedicated to all sorts of arcane Procmail questions. You might find more assistance there. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:12:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA25903 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA03159 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:03:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA03122 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:03:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbFpw-00038XC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 17:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: PINE 3.95 build problem :-( Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:34:29 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, Andrey V Shain wrote: > I get pine3.95.tar.gz and unpuck it in /pine/pine3.95 > When I say: > build lnx > Linux say: > cannot open lnx.s > What I must doing ? Try "./build lnx" instead of "build lnx". You seem to be running some other program called "build" that wants a .s file. My guess is that it's an assembler. By using ./build instead, you force the use of Pine's build. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:46:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA26302 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:46:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA03945 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:38:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA03941 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:38:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbGM9-00038XC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 17:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Monreal Subject: fcc-by-recip into alternate collection Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 04:37:55 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, While it's easy to define a new folder collection, is there any way to use it as a destination for fcc-by-recipient? There's nowhere in config (3.95) that lets you set a path for anything other than default-fcc. -Ben M @ Benjamin Monreal Yale 99 YRC @ | bmonreal@pantheon.yale.edu CA | | benjamin.monreal@yale.edu YPMB | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:21:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA26367 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:21:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA05198 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:18:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA05194 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:18:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbHvA-00038XC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 19:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oakley@conti.oz.net (Reid Conti) Subject: Pine 3.95 From: header Date: 21 Dec 1996 00:51:32 GMT Message-ID: Hi, I use pine to send/receive mail. I use fetchmail to get pop mail from my server, but I send mail out directly. My address locally is oakley@conti.oz.net but my address that I use (due to lack of smtp queueing) is conti@oz.net. I use reply-to, but many systems don't awknowledge it. I heard you can enter a From: header in custom headers, but that you had to compile it to allow you to do so. I've tried From: and it doesn't work. What option do I have to set when compiling to allow me to enter From: headers? I looked through the source for something that looked useful, but couldn't figure it out. Thanks! -- ---------------------------------------- Definitive Computing Systems Flat rate Seattle-area PPP for $20/month http://www.oz.net/dcs -+- dcs@oz.net Voice Mail: (206) 663-9890 ---------------------------------------- Finger conti@oz.net for PGP public key! ---------------------------------------- Try to understand The ones I love And their demands It's so unfair When they can't see That I'm the boy Who really needs Their love -- Smashing Pumpkins, "Frail and Bedazzled" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:47:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA26050 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:47:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA05476 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:43:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA05472 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:43:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbIIu-00038XC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 19:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ";" option Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:39:39 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 16 Dec 1996, Michael Schuyler wrote: > One of our subscribers reports the ; option does not work to select > messages. She's right. I assumed some sort of option in pine.conf, but > after a perusal I can't find how to turn that option on. I'm obviously > doing something wrong. Anybody know what? In pine.conf, set feature-list=enable-aggregate-command-set This can also be selected per-user in the Setup/Config screen... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:13:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA28243 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA07259 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:10:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA07255 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:10:07 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 21 Dec 96 14:09:04 +0800 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:04:15 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Ben Monreal cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: fcc-by-recip into alternate collection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, Ben Monreal wrote: > While it's easy to define a new folder collection, is there any way to use > it as a destination for fcc-by-recipient? There's nowhere in config > (3.95) that lets you set a path for anything other than default-fcc. > Using pine 3.95? Check out the feature of the Address book.... You will find what you want....with a little reading. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:18:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA27706 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA07220 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:15:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA07216 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:15:42 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 21 Dec 96 14:14:39 +0800 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:09:50 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Paul O Bartlett cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Procmail help needed, please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Online Corruption wrote on comp.mail.pine: > > > Hullo. I am very very new to UNIX and I need some step by step help in > > setting up Procmail and a recipe. [...] > > Your question is important and meaningful, but it doesn't have > anything to do with the purpose of this newsgroup, which is Pine, not > Procmail. There is a mailing list dedicated to all sorts of arcane > Procmail questions. You might find more assistance there. FWIW, that address would be: procmail@Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 23:21:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA00636 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 23:21:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA07991 for pine-info-out; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 23:18:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA07987 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 23:18:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbLeA-00038cC; Fri, 20 Dec 96 23:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Online Corruption Subject: Procmail help needed, please Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:40:36 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hullo. I am very very new to UNIX and I need some step by step help in setting up Procmail and a recipe. I've looked at several references, but I'm still lost on some basics. To give you an idea: How is the recipe called? Procmail has so many flags that I can't imagine how long I'll spend trying to find out which flag I should or shouldn't be using... :) What I'm hoping someone will be able to do is give me a step by step list that would contain friendly tips that may have been overlooked in the Procmail documentation...I don't want anyone to use up a lot of time explaining everything in detail when that has already been done in the documentation. If someone could give me a template recipe and a few steps aimed at a complete UNIX beginner plus one or two of their favourite references, that would be perfect. Thank you very much for your time. Hugo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 00:06:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA29070 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 00:06:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA08399 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 00:03:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA08395 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 00:03:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbMO1-00038cC; Sat, 21 Dec 96 00:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: ftp Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:20:58 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 12 Dec 1996, Sasathorn Chaiyapet wrote: > Dear Sir, > > I would like to know, How to use ftp? This is completely unrelated to the Pine discussion. Nathan D Richards Toronto, Ontario, Canada E-mail: nathanr@k2.ashpool.com WWW: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ PGP Public key available on public key servers and upon request. PGP Key ID: 95258E35 PGP Key Fingerprint = 8E 0B 79 63 53 3F 13 48 84 39 D9 30 A6 28 1C 86 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 02:47:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA27673 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 02:47:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA10337 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 02:44:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA10333 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 02:44:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbOpi-00038eC; Sat, 21 Dec 96 02:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdudziak@qualcomm.com (Matthew Dudziak) Subject: Re: ??Import pine adr book to Eudora?? Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:29:35 -0800 Message-ID: References: In article , rwockner@netcom.com (Rex Wockner) wrote: >I'm switching from pine e-mail on a unix shell account to eudora e-mail >on a slip/ppp account. How do I import my huge pine addressbook to >eudora, hopefully keeping pine mailing lists intact? Here are two great web pages to check out for Eudora-related software and information: For Andrew Starr's personal web page which contains possibly every third-party utility which is designed to work with Eudora Pro. For information on converting to Eudora from tons of other mail clients, and back to those other clients. Also, this page contains info on such things as the TOC (Table Of Contents) file format. Matt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 03:32:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA20667 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 03:32:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA10702 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 03:29:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA10698 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 03:29:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbPZ1-00038fC; Sat, 21 Dec 96 03:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 04:21:02 -0600 Subject: Please Help Message-ID: <851161997.8770@dejanews.com> I have created a .forward file. I have entered my new E-mail address. Address is typed properly. The problem is .forward file is not forwarding messages to my new E-mail address. Can any body help. Regards -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 04:37:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA30682 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 04:37:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA11719 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 04:34:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA11715 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 04:34:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbQYy-00038eC; Sat, 21 Dec 96 04:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Richard Ashton Subject: Newbie,Linux-Sendmail-Help. Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 21:48:42 +1100 Message-ID: <32BA6F0A.6775@ans.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, I wish to set up my home pc to retrieve mail from my local Internet Service Provider, I am using Linux and I know little about how to do this. My ISP uses PoP3 protocol and I tried to set up my sendmail.cf file by replacing it with one that was supposed to work.When I ran my script to start sendmail and popclient, my screen was filled with error messages refering to the sendmail.cf file? I know I have not given very specific infomation but could someone point me in the right direction to get things up and running. Thanks in advance, Richard Ashton. mailto:ashtons@ans.com.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 07:07:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA30998 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 07:07:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA13327 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 07:05:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA13323 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 07:05:24 -0800 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 21 Dec 96 23:04:20 +0800 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 23:04:20 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Please Help In-Reply-To: <851161997.8770@dejanews.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 21 Dec 1996 grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in wrote: > I have created a .forward file. I have entered my new E-mail address. > Address is typed properly. The problem is .forward file is not forwarding > messages to my new E-mail address. Can any body help. Regards Ensure the permissions on the .forward file are set to be world-readable. Other than that....contact the "helpdesk" at VSNL Bombay. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:17:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA31504 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA14003 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:14:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA13999 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:14:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbU31-00038fC; Sat, 21 Dec 96 08:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrey V Shain Subject: QUOTED-PRINTABLE !!! Can i turn it OFF ??? Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 03:03:17 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello ! When i send message using Pine 3.91 in message header I occure line Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Followly I have problems with cyrillic messages It looks like "=CA=C3=D1" etc Can I turn off QOUTED PRINTABLE or not ? -==- Andrey V Shain Chief of computer center E-mail: dron@raatp.msk.ru Phohe: +7 (095) 700-0870, 700-0871 dron@ambagro.ru Fax: +7 (095) 700-0673, 700-0669 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:33:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA00824 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA16599 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:30:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA16595 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:30:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbX7S-00038hC; Sat, 21 Dec 96 11:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Greg Derylo Subject: Re: My Name Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:14:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Enrico I. Pangan wrote: > Why is it that everytime i post a message to any newsgroups using pine, i > don't see my name in the index. Instead, I see the text "TO: " plus the > name of the newsgroups to which i sent my mail. This is true for personal > messages i send to other people. > > As proof, look at the index of this newsgroup. You won't see "Enrico I. > Pangan" but instead see, "TO: comp.mail.pine". Why? Help me! PINE assumes you know that you sent it and it is therefore unnecessary to list yourself as author. If you want to change this, you can change this in the setup menu by adding in the following under "index-format": STATUS MSGNO DATE FROM(33%) SUBJECT(67%) This should then force PINE to list yourself as author. Hope this helps. ________________________________________________________________________ Gregory E. Derylo gderylo@nyx.net www.nyx.net/~gderylo "That government is best which governs least." -- Thomas Jefferson PGP ID C0129AC5 / 15 59 3E 48 E3 A3 22 E5 B2 2A D8 33 72 5F 15 AE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 13:58:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA29823 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 13:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA18111 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 13:55:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA18106 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 13:55:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbZKu-00038hC; Sat, 21 Dec 96 13:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrey V Shain Subject: Can't upgrade from 3.91 to 3.95 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 00:19:47 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello ! Now I use Pine 3.91 I want use 3.95 I get the next files: total 5742 --------------------- -rw-rw-r-- 1 dron dron 819550 Dec 21 23:06 imapd-bin.linux -rw-rw-r-- 1 dron dron 553869 Dec 21 23:12 pico-bin.linux -rw-rw-r-- 1 dron dron 551446 Dec 21 23:18 pilot-bin.linux -rw-rw-r-- 1 dron dron 3923777 Dec 21 23:58 pine-bin.linux ------------------------ First question. Size of this files is not the same as on ftp site --------------------- -rwxrwxr-x 1 172 0 819902 Jul 15 14:33 imapd-bin.linux -rwxrwxr-x 1 172 0 554143 Jul 15 14:41 pico-bin.linux -rwxrwxr-x 1 172 0 551717 Jul 15 14:41 pilot-bin.linux -rwxrwxr-x 1 172 0 3925282 Jul 15 15:21 pine-bin.linux ----------------------- Why ? Transfers always ended normal. Second question. What i must doing with getted files ? Where is instructions ? -==- Andrey V Shain Chief of computer center E-mail: dron@raatp.msk.ru Phohe: +7 (095) 700-0870, 700-0871 dron@ambagro.ru Fax: +7 (095) 700-0673, 700-0669 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 15:04:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA02071 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 15:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA19099 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 15:01:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA19095 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 15:01:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbaLD-00038iC; Sat, 21 Dec 96 14:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Koen Claessen Subject: Pine 3.95 crashes UNIX - sun4 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:49:56 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, I have this problem that Pine often crashes UNIX machines. I am using 3.95 on a sun4. Does anybody else has this problem? The behavior is as follows: You are typing an email in pine and suddenly the machine doesn't respond anymore. All the xterms you have on the machine become very slow. Sometimes there is just enough time to type in `top', and you can see that pine takes 70 - 80% of the CPU time. Then, after a few seconds, it's over. Sometimes pine displays the message: "Cannot allocate 16 bytes", even when I am alone here and running no other processes than an xterm. Who has the same problem? Who can help me? Regards, Koen. -- | Koen Claessen, kcclaess@cse.ogi.edu. | | http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~kcclaess/ | |------------------------------------------------------| | Visiting student at OGI, Portland, Oregon, USA. | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:03:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA31669 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA19786 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:01:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA19782 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:01:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbbGT-00038jC; Sat, 21 Dec 96 15:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William C Bonner Message-ID: <32B8C64F.4D8D@lgx.com> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:36:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Pine support for DSN? (Delivery Status Notification) References: <32AF5DA3.739A@lgx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rasheed Baqai wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, William C Bonner wrote: > > > customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To: William C Bonner , > > How often does this actually work? These days, with sendmail 8.7 and above in use in more and more places, the only places I really get return receipts from are places that use Microsoft Exchange for mail. I've not taken the header out, just because it doesn't seem to hurt. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:03:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA02398 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA19647 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:01:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA19643 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:01:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbbGR-00038iC; Sat, 21 Dec 96 15:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tpfh@io.com (The Philosopher from Hell) Subject: Changing Pines editor to vi or emacs Date: 19 Dec 1996 03:22:44 GMT Message-ID: <59ace4$700@nntp-3.io.com> I hope this isn't a FAQ but I'm used to using vi (and trying to learn emacs) and I'm wondering if there is a way to use Pine as a mail reader with vi or emacs as the editor, because (no offense to people who like pico or programmed it) I find pico really annoying. I like how in vi you can move a paragraph at a time, and delete as such.... and I'm just used to the #*$!ing thing :) So how do I set up Pine to use vi (or pico so that it emulates vi) as the editor? -- \ tpfh@io.com news:alt.fan.richard-nixon http://www.io.com/~tpfh/ / 1.look both ways when crossing roads 2.don't wear slippers 'til / \ you're old 3.never do what you are told --Chumbawamba / / O- Fight spam on the internet! http://www.vix.com/spam/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:30:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA00660 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:30:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA20759 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:28:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA20749 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:28:27 -0800 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 22 Dec 96 09:27:23 +0800 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:27:23 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: Andrey V Shain cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can't upgrade from 3.91 to 3.95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, Andrey V Shain wrote: > First question. Size of this files is not the same as on ftp site When you did the "ftp" did you ensure the transfer mode was binary? At the ftp prommpt "ftp>" issue the "bin" command before the "get". > What i must doing with getted files ? Where is instructions ? The following outline should help.... 1. Change the mode of the files to make they executable. chmod 555 "file-name". (Do a "man chmod" to read about the chmod command). 2. Rename the files to something you can remember. mv pine-bin.linux pine for example. (Read the man page for the mv command.) 3. Move the files to someplace in your "PATH". Hope that helps... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:37:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA03977 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:37:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA20865 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:35:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA20861 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:35:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbclB-00038iC; Sat, 21 Dec 96 17:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: invest@goldbergservices.com Subject: $$$$ $50,000 for the New Year $$$$ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:55:34 PST Message-ID: <58n75i$f2l@hil-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> $$$$ $50,000 for the New Year $$$$ Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life. The Internet has grown tremendously. It doubles in size every 4 months. think about it. You see those 'Make.Money.Fast' posts more and more. That's ... because it WORKS ! So I thought, all those new users might make it work. And I decided to try it out, a few months ago. Besides, whats $5.00, I spend more than that in the morning on my way to work on coffee and cigs for the day. So I sent in my money and posted.Everyone was calling it a scam, but there are SO many new users from AOL, Netcom, etc. they will join in and make it work for you. Well, two weeks later, I began recieving bucks in the mail! I couldn't believe it! Not just a little, I mean big bucks! At first only a few hundred dollars, then a week later, a couple of thousand, then BOOM. By the end of the fourth week, I had recieved nearly $47,000.00. It came from all over the world. And every bit of it perfectly legal and on the up and up. I've been able to pay off all my bills and still had enough left over for a nice vacation for me and my family. Not only does it work for me, it works for other folks as well. Markus Valppu says he made $57,883 in four weeks. Dave Manning claims he made $53,664 in the same amount of time. Dan Shepstone says it was only $17,000 for him. Do I know these folks? No, but when I read how they say they did it, it made sense to me. Enough sense that I'm taking a similar chance with $5 of my own bucks. Not a big chance, I admit--but one with incredible potential, because $5 is all anyone ever invests in this system. Period. That's all Markus, Dave, or Dan invested, yet their $5 netted them tens of thousands of dollars each, in a safe, legal, completely legitimate way. Here's how it works in 3 easy steps: STEP 1. Invest your $5 by writing your name and address on five seperate pieces of paper along with the words: "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST." (In this way, you're not just sending a dollar to someone; you're paying for a legitimate service.) Fold a $1 bill inside each paper, and mail them by standard U. S. Mail to the following five addresses: 1-Aaron McDaniel 2014 Powell Dr. ElCajon, Ca 92020 2-Faroon Khan 12343 77A Avenue Surrey, BC V3W2W9 3-Hoffman Eric 3150 Riviere-Cachee Boisbriand, PQ Canada J7H 1A3 4-Stuart Koch Connolly Hall Box C115 501 E. St. Joseph Rapid City, SD 57701-3995 5-Karen Lundgren 3889 Kencrest Ave. Halifax, NS Canada B3K 3L4 STEP 2. Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other names up.This way, #5 becomes #4 and so on. Put your name in as the fifth one on the list. STEP 3. Post the article to at least 250 newsgroups. There are at least 19000 newsgroups at any given moment in time. Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can. Remember the more groups you post to, the more people will see your article and send you cash! STEP 4. You are now in business for yourself, and should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days! Remember, the Internet is new and huge. There is no way you can lose. Now here is how and why this system works: Out of every block of 250 posts I made, I got back 5 responses. Yes, thats right,only 5. You make $5.00 in cash, not checks or money orders, but real cash with your name at #5. Each additional person who sent you $1.00 now also makes 250 additional postings with your name at #4, 1000 postings. On average then, 50 people will send you $1.00 with your name at #4,....$50.00 in your pocket! Now these 50 new people will make 250 postings each with your name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average return, 500 people= $500. They make 250 postings each with your name at #2= 100,000 postings=5000 returns at $1.00 each=$5,000.00 in cash! Finally, 5,000 people make 250 postings each with your name at #1 and you get a return of $60,000 before your name drops off the list.And that's only if everyone down the line makes only 250 postings each! Your total income for this one cycle is $55,000. From time to time when you see your name is no longer on the list, you take the latest posting you can find and start all over again. The end result depends on you. You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of. The more postings you make, the more cash ends up in your mailbox. It's too easy and too cheap to pass up!!! So thats it. Pretty simple sounding stuff, huh? But believe me, it works. There are millions of people surfing the net every day, all day, all over the world. And 100,000 new people get on the net every day. You know that, you've seen the stories in the paper. So, my friend, read and follow the simple instructions and play fair. Thats the key, and thats all there is to it. Print this out right now so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep an eye on all the postings you made to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should be. If you're really not sure or still think this can't be for real, then don't do it. But please print this article and pass it along to someone you know who really needs the bucks, and see what happens. REMEMBER....HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE THE BUCKS! GOOD LUCK TO ALL, AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND YOU WILL WIN AND MAKE SOME REAL INSTANT FREE CASH! *** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the bucks to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent the 5 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10,000! TRY IT AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY!!! :o) !!!!!!!!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 18:03:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA02399 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 18:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA21258 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 18:01:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasmda.vsnl.net.in (giasmdb.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.162]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA21254 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 18:01:16 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasmda.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA12646; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:31:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:31:36 -0500 (GMT) From: VIJAY KOUSHIK DWARAKANATH X-Sender: vkoushik@giasmdb To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sug (ID Y777J): (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII koushik ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADDRESS: SARASWATHY DWARAKANATH D5 "SATHYASRAYA" #120 L.B.ROAD THIRUVANMIYUR CHENNAI-600 041. PH - +91 44 4928705 FAX - +91 44 4928705 EMAIL - vkoushik@gaismda.vsnl.net.in ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:27:03 -0500 (GMT) From: VIJAY KOUSHIK DWARAKANATH To: pine.info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sug (ID Y777J): (fwd) koushik ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADDRESS: SARASWATHY DWARAKANATH D5 "SATHYASRAYA" #120 L.B.ROAD THIRUVANMIYUR CHENNAI-600 041. PH - +91 44 4928705 FAX - +91 44 4928705 EMAIL - vkoushik@gaismda.vsnl.net.in ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 05:27:02 -0500 (GMT) From: VIJAY KOUSHIK DWARAKANATH To: Pine Developers Subject: Sug (ID Y777J): how will you copy the letters in to the hardisk directly? koushik ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADDRESS: SARASWATHY DWARAKANATH D5 "SATHYASRAYA" #120 L.B.ROAD THIRUVANMIYUR CHENNAI-600 041. PH - +91 44 4928705 FAX - +91 44 4928705 EMAIL - vkoushik@gaismda.vsnl.net.in ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 19:29:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA15610 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 19:29:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA22136 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 19:25:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA22132 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 19:25:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbeUT-00038hC; Sat, 21 Dec 96 19:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be (Benjamin Gonay) Subject: How to implement PGP in Pine ? Date: 20 Dec 1996 09:55:47 GMT Message-ID: <59dnr3$qut@sugar.h.belgacom.be> Hi all, I'd like to find any document about how to use PGP in Pine. I know there are some stuff on some pages on the Net, but first i've not access to the Net, and two, it's more easy to print any doc, and read it coolly...:-)) So, is such document existing, and if yes, where can i find it ? Thanks a lot. -- Cybersalutations ;-) _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Email : Benjamin.Gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be _/ _/ From Brussels, Belgium , capital of Europe... _/ _/ linux forever...Linux Forever...Linux FOREVER... LINUX FOREVER !!!!! _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 21:38:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA05422 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 21:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA23771 for pine-info-out; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 21:35:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from m5.boston.juno.com (m5.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.197]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA23767 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 21:35:46 -0800 From: emilez@juno.com Received: (from emilez@juno.com) by m5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id AKK04017; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 00:34:46 EST To: sfriedman@ncjrs.aspensys.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help please Message-ID: <19961221.213321.5399.7.EmileZ@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-5,7-12,17-21 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 00:34:46 EST On Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:21:29 -0500 (EST) Sandra Friedman xORIC writes: >Hi there! > Can anyone please tell me how to get PINE to forward my mail to another >email address while I am on vacation? I'm on a UNIX system at work with a firewall and will be out for a week and wish to receive my mail at another location. > >Thanks so much. > >Sandra Friedman As a number of people mentioned to me when I had the same request last week, create a file with the email address you want your mail forwarded to and put it in your directory on the UNIX server you use PINE on. Name it: ".forward" be sure the file contains only the email address and no extraneous characters such as end of file or end of page characters. I know this works since I am using it now. John Ullman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:35:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA08016 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA01662 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:32:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA01658 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:32:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbrgk-00038ZC; Sun, 22 Dec 96 09:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrey V Shain Subject: PINE 3.95 build problem :-( Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 02:07:46 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello ! I get pine3.95.tar.gz and unpuck it in /pine/pine3.95 When I say: build lnx Linux say: cannot open lnx.s What I must doing ? -==- Andrey V Shain Chief of computer center E-mail: dron@raatp.msk.ru Phohe: +7 (095) 700-0870, 700-0871 dron@ambagro.ru Fax: +7 (095) 700-0673, 700-0669 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:14:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA08708 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA01986 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:12:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA01982 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 10:12:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbsMR-00038ZC; Sun, 22 Dec 96 10:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Upgraded to Sol2.5.1, terminal screwups in jove and pine. HELP? Date: 22 Dec 1996 13:15:26 GMT Message-ID: <59jc9e$669@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <59i7tq$tf@news.eecs.umich.edu> ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) writes: Sorry to follow up my own post so soon, but I forgot two things: 1) to crosspost to the pine as well as solaris group. 2) I see the following problems when connecting to the ES3000 from a SPARC running Sol 2.5 that has worked just fine with the same binary versions of the apps running on the old 4/690. >We have just purchased and installed a new E3000 to replace our 4/690. The >E3000 was cut over today. The E3000 runs 2.5.1, while the 4/690 ran 2.4. I >am having trouble with screen updates on both jove and two versions of >pine. The basic behavior is that cursor movements near the beginning of a >line do not work right. >For example, pine periodically checkpoints. When it does it inserts two >asterisks near the beginning of its status line. When the checkpoint is >through it overwrites them with blanks. Now it is leaving them on screen, >plus the blank, so the status line keeps moving farther to the right. >Also when I 'c'ompose a message, pine writes the header labels twice, e.g. >Subject: Subject: >but the insert point is before the second one. >In jove, inserting at the beginning or the middle of a line screws up. As I >am typing this, it seems that jove is not screwing up. I guess it must just >be when jove is loaded as the alternate editor from pine. Anyway, if I move >the cursor to the beginning of a line that has text on it, and us ^F to move >forward on the line, the text is moved forward, but also rewritten under the >cursor. >In any of these screwups the screen is rewritten correctly if I type ^L. >It does the same thing with two versions of tcsh. >Anybody got any clues? [... Sig ...] -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:26:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA31013 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:26:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA02907 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:23:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA02903 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:23:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbtRW-00038iC; Sun, 22 Dec 96 11:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Upgrade to Sol2.5.1, terminal screwups jove and pine.SOLVED! Date: 22 Dec 1996 13:37:28 GMT Message-ID: <59jdio$7kl@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <59i7tq$tf@news.eecs.umich.edu> <01bbf001$2e987ec0$44a1eac2@jb.relief.dk> "Jan Birk" writes: >Hi, >I have had nearly the same problem with vt220. The solution was to copy the >old >terminfo to the the new. >Jan Birk >R. Stewart Ellis skrev i artiklen ><59i7tq$tf@news.eecs.umich.edu>... >> We have just purchased and installed a new E3000 to replace our 4/690. >The >> E3000 was cut over today. The E3000 runs 2.5.1, while the 4/690 ran 2.4. > I >> am having trouble with screen updates on both jove and two versions of >> pine. The basic behavior is that cursor movements near the beginning of >a >> line do not work right. >> [...] A couple of people suggested terminfo description problems, so I decided to inspect them. After inspecting the terminfo entries for xterm on my home machine, nova and novaold (using infocmp), and discovering that they were all identical, I decided to kill the remote session in the xterm where I normally run pine, and try a local jove in that window. It screwed up in exactly the same way. I did a Ctrl-MidButton "Full Reset", and things are cleared up. The little bitty stuff can sure grind your ass. Thanks for the suggestions. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 12:50:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA08602 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 12:50:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA03852 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 12:47:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA03848 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 12:47:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbujp-00038iC; Sun, 22 Dec 96 12:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: 2 Fcc folders Date: 19 Dec 1996 19:50:43 GMT Message-ID: <59c6aj$lh8@news1.halcyon.com> I'd like to be able to specify two Fcc folders in PC Pine for Windows - one would be on my PC and the other would be on the Net. Are there any plans to allow this or tricks for how to do it now? Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:51:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA08081 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:51:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA04493 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:47:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA04489 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:47:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbvfT-00038iC; Sun, 22 Dec 96 13:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: binand@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (S.Binand Raj) Subject: Re: want to view the INBOX directly Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:07:47 GMT References: <32998539.499512B3@hss.hns.com> Greg (greg@newbury.edu) wrote: : In article <32998539.499512B3@hss.hns.com>, Bharath Kumar wrote: : >Hi, : > : >Can we read the messages of the INBOX directly after invoking pine ?? Can : >someone help me... : Go to the configuration screen (S C from the main menu) and press W. : When it asks you what word to find, type in: initial : The cursor will jump down to this line: : initial-keystroke-list = : Press "a" (for Add value), and enter the letter I. : Then, press E to return to the main menu. : From now on, Pine will always try to display your inbox wherever it starts. -- invoking pine with the -i option also works........ Binand (binand@aero.iitb.ernet.in) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:29:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA11688 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA04855 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:23:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA04851 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:23:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vbwHA-00038iC; Sun, 22 Dec 96 14:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: splitting digests into individual messages... Date: 19 Dec 1996 20:21:04 GMT Message-ID: References: In-reply-to: "Lee Crites's message of Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:06:10 -0700 In article "Lee Crites (arl)" writes: I'd like to split out the individual messages from the digests I've got. Procmail, the well known Unix mail preprocessor, can do this. ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail-3.11pre4.tar.gz which is quite stable for production despite the beta-sounding name. Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov http://www.dc-sage.org/bios/rick_troxel 301/435-2983 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:56:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA15822 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA11123 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:49:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA11113 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:49:49 -0800 Received: from dante19.u.washington.edu (dante19.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.69]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.2+UW96.11) with ESMTP id TAA06216 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:49:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (amanio@localhost) by dante19.u.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.11) with SMTP id TAA65854 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:49:48 -0800 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:49:47 -0800 (PST) From: "A. Manio" Reply-To: "A. Manio" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: BUG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to report a bug or problem in our computer at home. When I turned it on, it said that there was no thing as a folder open when I opened my inbox. I don't know what happened. Only the messages in my inbox were erased, and no longer there. I hope you could find the problem along with a solution. Thanks Aimee From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:56:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA15477 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA11152 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:50:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA11142 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:50:50 -0800 Received: from homer35.u.washington.edu (homer35.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.18]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.2+UW96.11) with ESMTP id TAA11096 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:50:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (bran@localhost) by homer35.u.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.11) with SMTP id TAA32220 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:50:49 -0800 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 19:50:49 -0800 (PST) From: "'Al' Allen Scher" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I had trouble contacting FTP tonight and then later tried to access Pine and my e-mail files, particularly my inbox . It has disappeared. The The incoming messages in inbox are not in any other file in my e-mail group. Is there anything I can do? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:41:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA10975 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA12288 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:32:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA12284 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:32:03 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 12:30:58 +0800 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 12:26:10 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "A. Manio" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: BUG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, A. Manio wrote: > I would like to report a bug or problem in our computer at home. > When I turned it on, it said that there was no thing as a folder open when > I opened my inbox. I don't know what happened. Only the messages in my > inbox were erased, and no longer there. > I hope you could find the problem along with a solution. If you machine is a 166Mhz Pentium or better with 1.2GB of disk space then kindly package it and send it to the address below and I will take a look at the problem and report back. :-) :-) Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:47:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA16561 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA12642 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:43:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bkumar.hss.hns.com (bkumar.hss.hns.com [139.85.241.90]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA12638 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:43:06 -0800 Received: from bkumar (bkumar@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bkumar.hss.hns.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA01149; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:36:48 GMT Message-ID: <32BE52AE.2795910C@hss.hns.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:36:46 +0000 From: Bharath Kumar Organization: Hughes Software Systems, New Delhi X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.1.59 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Is this possible?? X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/current/msg00003.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have a mailing list of about 100 addresses. I want to hide all the addresses. It can be done by Bcc. Fine!! But is it possible that the addressee sees only his address in the 'To: ' column when he receives the mail. That is each of these 100 people should see only their name in the mail received. Is this possble!!!! e-mail reply is preferred. Cheers, Bharath Kumar. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 21:06:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA16637 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 21:06:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA13343 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 21:02:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailer.fsu.edu (mailer.fsu.edu [128.186.6.122]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA13333; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 21:02:00 -0800 Received: from localhost (jgriffin@localhost) by mailer.fsu.edu (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA00178; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:01:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:01:58 -0500 (EST) From: JENNIFER E GRIFFIN Reply-To: JENNIFER E GRIFFIN To: Pine Developers cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sug (ID Y777J): poblem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been using pine for about a year and a half now. With this new update, I am getting the message "[Incomplete maildomain "mailer".]" and then "[Return address in mail you send may be incorrect.]" I didn't know if I needed to mail you, or my server. Thank you, Jennifer Griffin jgriffin@mailer.fsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 21:50:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA01651 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 21:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA14483 for pine-info-out; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 21:44:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nj5.injersey.com (nj5.injersey.com [206.139.48.252]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA14478 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 1996 21:44:20 -0800 Received: from localhost (fsimmond@localhost) by nj5.injersey.com (8.8.4/8.8.3) with SMTP id AAA15218 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:53:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:53:54 -0500 (EST) From: Fred Simmonds Reply-To: Fred Simmonds To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Was composing a message. got disconnected. when reconnected had difficulty finding my message and when found it, no commands would respond. finally lost by composed message before i could send it. how do i find a message that was interrupted when my fone line disconnected and was reconnected? there seems no applicable folder in which it would end up. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:12:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA20527 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA19521 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:07:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA19514 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:07:20 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:04:18 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA10876; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:05:08 GMT Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:05:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: The Philosopher from Hell cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Changing Pines editor to vi or emacs In-Reply-To: <59ace4$700@nntp-3.io.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Perhaps you should be Extremely Brave and Pluck Up Your Courage... and look in Pine's "Setup" screen: you know, the thing you see mentioned on the Main Menu whenever you start Pine? At the Main Menu: S C ... go to Setup Configuration screen w editor ... do a "whereis" to look for the word "editor" amongst the list of options ? ... ask Pine for help about the option. Hint: you should find several options with the word "editor" in them, all affecting which editor is used and how you get into it. Have a look at the help information for each of them. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 19 Dec 1996, The Philosopher from Hell wrote: > I hope this isn't a FAQ but I'm used to using vi (and trying to learn > emacs) and I'm wondering if there is a way to use Pine as a mail reader > with vi or emacs as the editor, because (no offense to people who like > pico or programmed it) I find pico really annoying. I like how in vi > you can move a paragraph at a time, and delete as such.... and I'm just > used to the #*$!ing thing :) > > So how do I set up Pine to use vi (or pico so that it emulates vi) as > the editor? > > -- > \ tpfh@io.com news:alt.fan.richard-nixon http://www.io.com/~tpfh/ > / 1.look both ways when crossing roads 2.don't wear slippers 'til / > \ you're old 3.never do what you are told --Chumbawamba / > / O- Fight spam on the internet! http://www.vix.com/spam/ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:13:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA20979 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:13:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA19517 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:07:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA19512 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:07:17 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:00:18 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA10564; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:01:13 GMT Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:01:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Holger Lillqvist cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ";" option In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The reason that the aggregate command set is not enabled by default is, I believe, the aim of keeping Pine simple to use for novice users. This includes protecting them against some of the more powerful commands, at least until they have gained sufficient experience with general use of Pine so as not to be thrown by them. If Systems Administrator disagress with this policy (s)he can quite easily "turn the option on" for everyone simply by adding the appropriate line to the systemwide configuration file used by Pine. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 19 Dec 1996, Holger Lillqvist wrote: > Edward M Greshko: > > This is an "easy" one to miss... > > > > FEATURE: enable-aggregate-command-set > > > > Setting this feature enables the commands and subcommands that relate to > > performing operations on more than one message at a time. We call these > > "aggregate operations". > > > And why must that feature be specifically enabled? What harms could there > be if it was always active, without options? > > -- > Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 05:08:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA15910 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 05:07:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA22363 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 05:04:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA22359 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 05:04:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcA0H-00038XC; Mon, 23 Dec 96 05:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: How to implement PGP in Pine ? Date: 23 Dec 1996 12:37:58 GMT Message-ID: <59luf6$ptl$1@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <59dnr3$qut@sugar.h.belgacom.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <59dnr3$qut@sugar.h.belgacom.be>, gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be (Benjamin Gonay) writes: > Hi all, > > I'd like to find any document about how to use PGP in Pine. > I know there are some stuff on some pages on the Net, but first i've not > access to the Net, and two, it's more easy to print any doc, and read it If you have no access to the Internet, how can you post this article to a netsgroup? WWW is only one part of the Net. Email, FTP, Gopher, and many other things exist. If you have figured out how to access WWW, here is a URL for the web pages on PGP in Pine (Unix): http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/Pine_pgp.html Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == www.uc.edu/~yuanj = Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = using Knews (Irix5.3) == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 06:11:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA22464 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 06:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA23052 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 06:07:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cdshub.cdc.com (mailhub1.cdc.com [129.179.161.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA23048 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 06:07:17 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by cdshub.cdc.com; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 08:07:14 -0600 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 22:06:09 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Jie Yuan cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to implement PGP in Pine ? In-Reply-To: <59luf6$ptl$1@news.ececs.uc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23 Dec 1996, Jie Yuan wrote: > In article <59dnr3$qut@sugar.h.belgacom.be>, > gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be (Benjamin Gonay) writes: > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to find any document about how to use PGP in Pine. > > I know there are some stuff on some pages on the Net, but first i've not > > access to the Net, and two, it's more easy to print any doc, and read it > > If you have no access to the Internet, how can you post this article to > a netsgroup? WWW is only one part of the Net. Email, FTP, Gopher, and > many other things exist. NEWS existed for quite some time very nicely without a connection to the Internet. Many people still have access to NEWS without a connection to the Internet since NEWS can (and does) travel in a store and forward fashion similar to UUCP. So, *yes* it is quite possible to post news and read news without access to the Internet and all of its features. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:14:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA15366 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:14:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA23624 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:09:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA23617 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:09:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcBwK-00038cC; Mon, 23 Dec 96 07:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alan Blakely Subject: Pine for Win95 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:39:00 -0600 Message-ID: <32BE3714.4D41@vyger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I've been using pine on my Linux box for some time now, and want to install it on my Win95 machine. I have unzipped it, and followed the installation instructions as far as I know, but keep getting 2 errors which drive me nuts: 1. Access error when trying to open mail folders. 2. Can't "C"ompose mail; get error saying "Can't send message without an open remote folder." Ideas? Thanks! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:58:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA24301 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA24327 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:54:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bebop.chass.utoronto.ca (bebop.chass.utoronto.ca [128.100.160.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA24320 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:54:19 -0800 Received: from chass.utoronto.ca by bebop.chass.utoronto.ca via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/940406.SGI) for <@bebop.chass.utoronto.ca:pine-info@cac.washington.edu> id KAA03201; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:53:39 -0500 Received: from localhost by chass.utoronto.ca via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/930416.SGI) for id KAA00153; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:53:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 10:53:38 -0500 (EST) From: George Vandervelde To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printing problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If I press print when the printer is either off-line, or spimply not turned on, I get the message printer error, giving me various options. When I gine the command to discard, or to try again, the entire system locks up. I cannot even get out of pine into DOS. I have to turn off the computer and restart, then get into the server and pine once more. What is the solution to this irritating problem? Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 08:28:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA24264 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 08:28:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA24689 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 08:22:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lorien.creol.ucf.edu (lorien.creol.ucf.edu [132.170.160.102]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA24685 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 08:21:54 -0800 Received: from aztec.creol.ucf.edu by lorien.creol.ucf.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04591; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 11:25:58 -0500 Received: from localhost by aztec.creol.ucf.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA05533; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 11:20:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 11:20:44 -0500 (EST) From: Yohan Baillot X-Sender: baillot@aztec To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help!!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-851358044=:5524" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-851358044=:5524 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I work on an SGI Onyx IRIX 5.3 and pine is not working anymore since the machine crashed and the file /etc/sendmail.cf has been replaced by a new one. Now pine does not work on my machine. Also, when it was working before the time was screwed at -500h previous the date I send it! Could you give me a tip for I find some documentation to configure and fix these problem. Here is an attachament of my sendmail.cf file if you want to take a look. My domain is creol.ucf.edu (University of Central Florida, orlando) and the name of the worstation is 'vision'. I thank you for your help. have a great day yohan _______________________________________________________________________________ COORDINATES _______________________________________________________________________________ Yohan Baillot, BAILLOT Yohan, 12100 Knight's Krossing Cir., Chez Mr Broucksaux, #B306, Orlando, FL 32817, USA. 23 rue Henri Dunant, 89100 PARON, FRANCE. 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-0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id LAA24654 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 11:23:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA28813 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 11:20:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA28809 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 11:20:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcFr9-00038XC; Mon, 23 Dec 96 11:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dkobayas@mahi.nmfs.hawaii.edu (Donald R. Kobayashi) Subject: Viewing attachments? Date: 23 Dec 1996 19:05:42 GMT Message-ID: <59ml66$3ua@news.Hawaii.Edu> Hello, Can anyone help me view the attachments in the following email? This is pine 3.95 on a sparc 20, solaris 2.4. ============ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:09:53 -0500 From: To: dkobayas@mahi.nmfs.hawaii.edu Subject: Parts/attachments: 1 Shown 3 lines Text 2.1 601 bytes Application 2.2 72 KB Application ---------------------------------------- Dear Don, ...... [Part 2.1, Application/APPLEFILE 802bytes] [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file] [Part 2.2, Application/OCTET-STREAM (Name: "RESPONSE TO DON") 96KB] [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file] ============== When I tried to "V" view, "S" save, I got something there but it's definitely not ascii, and I'm not sure which route to go. TIA, Don (dkobayas@mahi.nmfs.hawaii.edu) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:53:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA28895 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:53:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA02471 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:50:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA02467 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:50:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcIDa-00038XC; Mon, 23 Dec 96 13:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d7dot@mindspring.com (d7dot) Subject: Re: ??Import pine adr book to Eudora?? Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 23:17:56 GMT Message-ID: <32bb1e42.52138960@news.mindspring.com> References: rwockner@netcom.com (Rex Wockner) wrote: > >I'm switching from pine e-mail on a unix shell account to eudora e-mail >on a slip/ppp account. How do I import my huge pine addressbook to >eudora, hopefully keeping pine mailing lists intact? Well today is your lucky day! Click on this link, what you seek will be found... http://mango.human.cornell.edu/kens/MoreFAQ.html#Convert Regards, Brad IP Address (Dynamic) d7dot@mindspring.com d7dot@juno.com Web Page URL http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/2540/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:11:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA20734 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:11:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA03347 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:09:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from howard.paciolan.com ([165.113.222.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA03343 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:08:50 -0800 Received: by howard.paciolan.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA57550; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:09:49 -0800 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:09:49 -0800 (PST) From: Shivinder Singh To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for Win95 In-Reply-To: <32BE3714.4D41@vyger.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:19:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA01405 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:19:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA05318 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:16:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from theory.physics.ubc.ca (black-hole.physics.ubc.ca [137.82.43.40]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA05312; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:16:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (unruh@localhost) by theory.physics.ubc.ca (8.8.4/8.8.3) with SMTP id QAA28984; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:16:08 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: black-hole: unruh owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:16:06 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Unruh X-Sender: unruh@black_hole To: pine@cac.washington.edu cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a problem with Pico, the Pine editor. I am running Pine 3.95 on a SunOS 4.1.3 machine. If I cut and paste text from elsewhee and try to insert it into a message, I get total garbage if the message already contains text after the insertionpoint. The pasted text will be scattered throughout the other text, and teh formatting of the text already there is totally destroyed. This even happens if I am typing in text. blank lines between the text I am typing and the text already there will disappear and then the text already there will get swallowed up in the text that is there. ______________________________________________________________________________ William G. Unruh Canadian Institute for Tel: +1(604)822-3273 Dept of Physics Advanced Research Fax: +1(604)822-5324 University of BC Program in Cosmology unruh@physics.ubc.ca Vancouver, BC and Gravity http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ Canada V6T 1Z1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here is and example. If I take the above text in my signature and paste it in after this here is what I get: *************************Start Example***************** ______________________________________________________________________________ WilliamG.UnruhCanadianInstituteforTel: +1(604)822-3273 Dept of Physics Advanced Research Fax: +1(604)822-5324 University of BC Program in Cosmology unruh@physics.ubc.ca Vancouver, BC and Gravity http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ Canada V6T 1Z1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ************************End Example********************* If I now have the signature in the text properly formatted, and then insert something else in front of it, here is what I get (Note what I have dome is to take these four lines and copy and paste them in front of a properly formatted copy of the signature. ***********************************Start Example*************** If I now have the signature in the text properly formatted, and then ______________________________________________________________________________ William G. Unruh Canadian Institute for Tel: +1(604)822-3273 Dept of Physics Advanced Research Fax: +1(604)822-5324 University of BC Program in Cosmology unruh@physics.ubc.ca Vancouver, BC and Gravity http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ Canada V6T 1Z1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ insert something else in front of it, here is what I get (Note what I have dome is to take these four lines and copy and paste them in front of a properly formatted copy of the signature. ************************************End Example***************** Ie, even though I inserted the text in front of the signature, it ended up half after a mangled signature. What is going on here? Is there some way of correcting this (some misconfiguration?) Bill Unruh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 17:13:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA03399 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 17:13:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA06985 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 17:10:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA06981 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 17:10:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcLJm-00038XC; Mon, 23 Dec 96 17:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: warren@itexjct.jct.ac.il (Warren Burstein) Subject: Re: Pine for Win95 Message-ID: References: <32BE3714.4D41@vyger.net> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 23:23:45 GMT In <32BE3714.4D41@vyger.net> Alan Blakely writes: >Hi. I've been using pine on my Linux box for some time now, and want to >install it on my Win95 machine. I have unzipped it, and followed the >installation instructions as far as I know, but keep getting 2 errors >which drive me nuts: >1. Access error when trying to open mail folders. >2. Can't "C"ompose mail; get error saying "Can't send message without >an open remote folder." The first problem causes the second - you can't compose mail if you haven't opened a remote folder. Are you running imapd on your linux? If not, see if you have imapd in your /etc/hosts and /etc/inetd.conf commented out. If you do, uncomment it, and restart inetd. If not, get imapd and install it, either from your linux distribution or from wherever you got Pine. If you are running imapd, are you specifying the remote mail folder as {foo} where foo is the hostname of your linux? -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 17:31:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA03536 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 17:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA06730 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 17:25:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA06726 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 17:25:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcLcB-00038XC; Mon, 23 Dec 96 17:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Erwin Authried" Subject: Re: > Which Mail Package To Use? Date: 23 Dec 1996 15:57:38 GMT Message-ID: <01bbf0ea$0ca0d120$0301a8c0@smithwicks.softsys.co.at> References: <32B38A27.27C6@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You could try mail4u, a UUCP transport provider for MS Exchange. It can be used together with other transport providers like MS-mail. Have a look at http://www.mail4u.atnet.at You can play whatever sound you want with MS Exchange for mail notificiation. Auto-replies, aliases for multiple users can be configured in UUCP. Regards, Erwin Les Gainous schrieb im Beitrag <32B38A27.27C6@earthlink.net>... > Here are my requirements: > > o Able to use two internet accounts and one MAPI account together > "seamlessly" > o Able to send "auto-replies" based on rules, etc. > o Able to audibly notify user with a customizable sound file (.wav, > etc.) > o Preferrably freeware (or shareware) > > Is there such a product? My environment is Windows NT Workstation 3.51. > The MAPI mailbox is our company's internal email. One of the internet > accounts is our company's own Internet email. The second internet > account is my personal account with an internet service provider. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 23:20:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA20451 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 23:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA10941 for pine-info-out; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 23:15:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca (bock.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.214]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA10937 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 23:15:37 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA) id AAA11377 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:15:43 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA45966 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:15:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:15:35 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: ??Import pine adr book to Eudora?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Rex Wockner wrote: > I'm switching from pine e-mail on a unix shell account to eudora e-mail > on a slip/ppp account. How do I import my huge pine addressbook to > eudora, hopefully keeping pine mailing lists intact? http://www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm Joseph has conversion scripts available for five major e-mail packages, including one to convert Pine addressbooks to Eudora nickname files. Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:11:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA06702 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA11933 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:06:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA11923 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:06:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcRrr-00038XC; Tue, 24 Dec 96 00:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Few question on PINE. Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:17:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32BE8F92.49E3@infosys.ernet.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32BE8F92.49E3@infosys.ernet.in> On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Harshavardhan D wrote: > Have a couple of questions regarding PINE: > > 1. Can we create 'forms' in PINE as we can do in 'elm'? This I cannot help you with, as I am not familiar with elm and do not know what its forms look like and how they work. > 2. Can additional headers be added to outgoing mails apart > from those added by PINE? Yes. From the Main Menu, go into Setup and Configuration. Look for a field called customized-hdrs (or something like that). You may add your own legal headers (unless the system administrator has set Pine up in such a way as to prevent you from making personal changes to the configuration). When you add the header fields, you may either put values in them so they will always be there, or you may leave a field value blank so that you have to add it individually or not for each message, as you decide. (You may need to invoke Rich Headers to see the added headers.) > ps. I use PINE-3.91. If I remember correctly, customizable headers were already available in version 3.91. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:00:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA11397 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA12511 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:57:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA12507 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:57:02 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:55:56 +0800 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:51:09 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Paul O Bartlett cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Few question on PINE. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Harshavardhan D wrote: > > > Have a couple of questions regarding PINE: > > > > 1. Can we create 'forms' in PINE as we can do in 'elm'? > > This I cannot help you with, as I am not familiar with elm and do > not know what its forms look like and how they work. I can help on this one.... pine does not support AT&T forms as supported by elm. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:01:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA06998 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:01:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA12183 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:56:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA12179 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:56:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcSem-00038XC; Tue, 24 Dec 96 00:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christian Labadie Subject: Re: Pine for Win95 Date: 24 Dec 1996 08:53:54 GMT Message-ID: <59o5n2$55l$1@news.nacamar.de> Hi comp.mail.pine, I have been using pine on DEC-OSF1, and I would like to install it on Win95. Could someone give me the FTP address from which I could download it. Thanks Christian PS: Is there a version for MacOS? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:24:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA05545 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA12467 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:20:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA12463 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:20:13 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:19:10 +0800 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:14:20 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Christian Labadie cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for Win95 In-Reply-To: <59o5n2$55l$1@news.nacamar.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 24 Dec 1996, Christian Labadie wrote: > I have been using pine on DEC-OSF1, and I would like to > install it on Win95. Could someone give me the FTP address > from which I could download it. ftp.cac.washington.edu > PS: Is there a version for MacOS? No. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:51:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA07332 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA13173 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:46:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA13166 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:46:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcTMu-00038XC; Tue, 24 Dec 96 01:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wolcott@panix.com Subject: error no valid authore spec. Date: 16 Dec 1996 21:03:46 GMT Message-ID: <594dfi$dr2@news1.panix.com> I have been installing PINE for sco unix. I got very far, but now I have problem and can not seem to find and answer. After composing new mail and pressing ^x to send I get this error and no mail is sent. --- "no valid author specification"-- What does this mean and how can I fix the error.? scott From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 02:30:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA07277 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 02:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA13221 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 02:26:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA13217 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 02:26:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcU1e-00038XC; Tue, 24 Dec 96 02:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Help please Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:46:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 20 Dec 1996, Sandra Friedman xORIC wrote: > Can anyone please tell me how to get PINE to forward my mail to another > email address while I am on vacation? I'm on a UNIX system at work with > a firewall and will be out for a week and wish to receive my mail at > another location. Uh, actually, Pine will not forward your mail at all. It isn't designed to. However, since you are asking for a Un*x system, go to your home directory and create a one-line file called exactly .forward and containing nothing but the email address to which the mail is to be forwarded. I'm honestly not sure if the firewall makes any difference. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 07:30:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA08659 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 07:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA16907 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 07:23:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from utciva.civ.utwente.nl (utciva.civ.utwente.nl [130.89.1.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA16903 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 07:22:59 -0800 From: G.J.Slooijer@el.utwente.nl Received: from civp.utwente.nl (utcivb.civ.utwente.nl) by utciva.civ.utwente.nl with SMTP id AA21906 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:22:57 +0100 Message-Id: <199612241522.AA21906@utciva.civ.utwente.nl> Received: by civp.utwente.nl with VINES ; Tue, 24 Dec 96 16:22:54 MET Date: Tue, 24 Dec 96 16:22:49 MET Subject: Mime aware tools To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu How do I recieve Mime aware tools ? Greetings, Gerrit Slooijer E-mail: g.j.slooijer@el.utwente.nl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:42:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA09796 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:42:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA17668 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:37:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cdshub100.cdc.com (mailhub1-100.cdc.com [129.179.100.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA17664 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:37:01 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by cdshub.cdc.com; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:36:59 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 00:35:54 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: G.J.Slooijer@el.utwente.nl cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mime aware tools In-Reply-To: <199612241522.AA21906@utciva.civ.utwente.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 24 Dec 1996 G.J.Slooijer@el.utwente.nl wrote: > How do I recieve Mime aware tools ? Please tell us more of what you expect of "MIME aware Tools". Pine is a MIME aware User Agent. Does that qualify? Also, there is a newsgroup devoted to MIME. Have you tried there? > Greetings, And Happy Holidays to you too... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:27:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA03635 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:27:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA23670 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:23:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA23666 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:23:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcfCn-00038iC; Tue, 24 Dec 96 14:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: ipopd timeout on Solaris 2.5 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:26:30 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <58vkhq$54f@news.supernal.net> On 15 Dec 1996, Peter J Naylor wrote: > Hi, we're running the imapd and ipopd's that came with Pine3.95 on our > Solaris/SPARC 2.5 mail server. Normally everything works fine, but > occasionally with a user on a slow PPP link and a large file in their > mailbox, they get a timeout. Anyone else experienced this and got some > tips? I've checked out the latest developer's imapd package from UW, but > the only things which might be relevant in there are in the imaprc file. > None of the timeout parameters in there seem like they'd be a problem, as > their default is set to infinite. This bugs me... please help! :) > > Our syslog lists a "Kiss of Death" for the pop login, if that helps... This is a frequently asked question. The user has some sort of "check for new mail" background task running. This periodically opens a POP3 connection to probe the user's mailbox. In the UNIX mbox format, only one process can have the mailbox opened in read/write mode at a time. In our implementation, if a new process discovers that some other process has the mailbox read/write, it sends a "kiss of death" to the old process requesting that it kill itself so the new process can acquire read/write mode. This is done because PCs, Macs, and similar toy computers tend to crash frequently. This leaves stuck servers at the other end. After the user reboots her toy computer and tries to connect again, she expects to be able to get at her mail and not be told "you already have it open, go away." The POP3 protocol specification specifically forbids more than one active POP3 session per user on a server at a time. So the choice is either "new kills old" or "you already have it open, go away". So, why are your users getting a Kiss of Death? There are a number of little background programs (TSRs and the like) floating around which "check for new mail". They work by periodically connecting to the POP3 server to see what new mail exists. Guess what happens when this background task fires off when the user has an active POP3 session. You got it, that POP3 session gets killed. The immediate fix is to stop using those "check for new mail" background tasks. If the user really insists upon using one, get ahold of one which does a query via IMAP4 instead of POP3. IMAP4 has a "STATUS" command which will return information about new mail without requiring a read/write lock. POP3 has no such choice. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:28:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA14030 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA23999 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:23:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA23995 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:23:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcfCn-00038jC; Tue, 24 Dec 96 14:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Kramer Subject: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:57:07 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Archive-name: mail/pine-faq Posting-Frequency: monthly URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html The most Frequently Asked Questions about Pine What documentation is available for Pine? The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive online help. Additional documentation, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, and information on where to obtain the software, can be accessed: * In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ * Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. + The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] _________________________________________________________________ Who should I ask for help with Pine? If you need assistance with Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using Pine. Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users. You may also be able to find the answer to your question through the Pine Discussion Forum -- see http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ * If you are posting a question to the Pine Discussion Forum but do not subscribe to it, request in your message that replies be sent directly to you, with a copy to the forum. (Conversely, if you are answering a question in the Pine Discussion Forum, be sure to include the inquirer's email address in your reply, since s/he may not be a subscriber and will otherwise not see your answer). _________________________________________________________________ Why does command X not work? Some of the Pine commands you may read or hear about have to be explicitly enabled in the SETUP CONFIGURATION menu, which is accessed from Pine's MAIN MENU, to be functional. For example, to be able to use the "Bounce" command, the following feature has to be checked: [X] enable-bounce-cmd and to be able to use the "Select"/"Apply" operations, you must first check: [X] enable-aggregate-command-set _________________________________________________________________ How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." For details on selection and configuration of such programs, see the Filtering Mail FAQ (by Nancy McGough) at one of the following locations: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/ faq.html ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt Once you have successfully set up your delivery filtering, you will have new mail arriving in several different folders, in addition to your INBOX. You can then access these folders just like any other mail folder. You can also define a collection of incoming message folders in Pine, through which you can then TAB to read new messages. For more information, see Pine's internal help on the enable-incoming-folders feature in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION menu. _________________________________________________________________ How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Config. Move down to the customized-hdrs option and read the context-sensitive help screen. _________________________________________________________________ Why does my message index show From: instead of To:? Applies to Pine for Unix only A number of Pine 3.95 users have reported seeing their own name, rather than the name of the recipient, in folder index listings of messages they have sent. This occurs when Pine detects the specific hostname of the computer on which it is running in the From: header. To avoid this from happening, set use-only-domain-name in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION menu to Yes; this strips the name of the specific host from your From: address. Alternatively, specify your domain name in user-domain (be sure you enter it correctly, otherwise all your outgoing messages will have an invalid return address! Ask your local computing support people if in doubt). When setting either of these options, also read the help screen for quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file to see whether you should enable that feature too. Administrators of systems where Pine exhibits this behavior should also check the /etc/hosts file for invalid entries; as an example, it should read: 123.456.78.90 hostname.domain hostname not just 123.456.78.90 hostname -- otherwise, users' setting of use-only-domain-name to Yes will not have the intended effect. _________________________________________________________________ How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Signature. The text you enter in the SIGNATURE EDITOR (new in Pine 3.92) will be appended to all messages you compose. _________________________________________________________________ How do I send a message to multiple recipients without showing all their names? In Pine's message composer, with the cursor in the message headers area, press Ctrl-R ("rich headers"). Then read the context-sensitive help screens for the Bcc: and Lcc: fields. _________________________________________________________________ How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment to a message I send? Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for attaching files to email messages. Any MIME-capable mailer should be able to "understand" Pine's attachments. If the recipient of your message with attachment does not have MIME-capable email software, they should be able to save the attachment to a file and then decode that. One freely-available program which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie Mellon. It is available at: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack _________________________________________________________________ Can Pine be used with a POP server? As of version 3.95, PC-Pine cannot be used with a POP (Post Office Protocol) server. Pine for Unix can be configured to access the message INBOX on a POP3 server using the folder definition syntax {pop3server/pop3}INBOX where pop3server is the hostname of the POP3 server. However, this method accesses the POP server in quasi-online mode, not in offline mode, which POP was designed for. Accessing the inbox on a POP3 server with Pine does not preserve changes to message flags (New, Answered, Deleted, etc.) between sessions. As an alternative, a program such as fetchmail (which supercedes popclient) can be used to download email from a POP server to a local Unix account, where it can then be accessed with Pine. fetchmail can be obtained from: http://locke.ccil.org:80/~esr/esr-freeware.html#fetchmail Note: support for the offline mode of email access (using either POP or IMAP) is planned for a future release of Pine and PC-Pine. For a more detailed comparison of the POP and IMAP protocols, see Message Access Paradigms and Protocols at the URL: http://www.imap.org/imap.vs.pop.html _________________________________________________________________ End of Pine Frequently Asked Questions - more questions & answers about Pine can be found at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt _________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 15:50:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA17132 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 15:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA24883 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 15:48:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA24877 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 15:48:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcgYX-00038BC; Tue, 24 Dec 96 15:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Portera Filippo Subject: Waiting for unlocking sent-mail Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:24:34 +0100 Message-ID: <32BE8812.515@bora.iuav.unive.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks! I don't understand why my pine hangs when it tries to write on sent-mail file. After about 5 minutes of waiting it complains that sent-mail is locked... What's going on? Thanks in advance, Filippo -- filippo@brezza.iuav.unive.it From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:25:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA16216 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA26512 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:23:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA26508 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:23:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vci3T-00038BC; Tue, 24 Dec 96 17:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 crashes UNIX - sun4 Date: 22 Dec 1996 15:58:52 GMT Message-ID: <59jlrs$gk5@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: Koen Claessen writes: >Hi there, >I have this problem that Pine often crashes UNIX machines. I am using 3.95 >on a sun4. Does anybody else has this problem? You left out the most important datum: what OS? >The behavior is as follows: You are typing an email in pine and suddenly >the machine doesn't respond anymore. All the xterms you have on the >machine become very slow. Sometimes there is just enough time to type in >`top', and you can see that pine takes 70 - 80% of the CPU time. Then, >after a few seconds, it's over. Sometimes pine displays the message: >"Cannot allocate 16 bytes", even when I am alone here and running no other >processes than an xterm. >Who has the same problem? Who can help me? >Regards, >Koen. >-- >| Koen Claessen, kcclaess@cse.ogi.edu. | >| http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~kcclaess/ | >|------------------------------------------------------| >| Visiting student at OGI, Portland, Oregon, USA. | -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:05:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA03497 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:05:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA26573 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:03:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA26569 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:03:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcifA-00038BC; Tue, 24 Dec 96 18:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nagarwal@cs.uml.edu (Niraj Agarwalla) Subject: Automatic Forwarding? Date: 22 Dec 1996 19:56:56 GMT Message-ID: <59k3q8$2s1$1@ulowell.uml.edu> Does anyone know how I can set pine to automatically forward my e-mail to another account? I have PINE 3.91 on a Digital Unix OS. Any ideas? Please reply be e-mail. Thanks. -- Niraj Agarwalla - nagarwal@cs.uml.edu - http://www.hardlink.com/~niraj From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:56:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA18485 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA27127 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:53:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cdshub.cdc.com (mailhub1.cdc.com [129.179.161.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA27123 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:53:56 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by cdshub.cdc.com; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 20:53:53 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 10:52:49 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: "R. Stewart Ellis" cc: Pine Info , Koen Claessen Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 crashes UNIX - sun4 In-Reply-To: <59jlrs$gk5@news.eecs.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 22 Dec 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > Koen Claessen writes: > > >Hi there, > > >I have this problem that Pine often crashes UNIX machines. I am using 3.95 > >on a sun4. Does anybody else has this problem? > > You left out the most important datum: what OS? The header showed SUN in the messageID. So, tht would make it SunOS4.X. It would still be nice to know the X and what compiler was used, cc or gcc. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 19:34:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA15437 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 19:33:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA27905 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 19:32:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gmi.edu (nova.gmi.edu [192.138.137.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA27901 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 19:31:57 -0800 Received: from localhost by gmi.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA07743; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:31:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:31:05 -0500 (EST) From: "R. Stewart Ellis" X-Sender: ellis@nova To: Edward M Greshko cc: "R. Stewart Ellis" , Pine Info , Koen Claessen Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 crashes UNIX - sun4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute - Flint MI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Dec 1996, Edward M Greshko wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 10:52:49 +0800 (GMT) > From: Edward M Greshko > To: "R. Stewart Ellis" > Cc: Pine Info , > Koen Claessen > Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 crashes UNIX - sun4 > > On 22 Dec 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > > > Koen Claessen writes: > > > > >Hi there, > > > > >I have this problem that Pine often crashes UNIX machines. I am using 3.95 > > >on a sun4. Does anybody else has this problem? > > > > You left out the most important datum: what OS? > > The header showed SUN in the messageID. So, tht would make it > SunOS4.X. It would still be nice to know the X and what compiler was > used, cc or gcc. Are you sure? Since I use a real newsreader, I have no idea what the headers Pine constructs for news articles look like. To me SUN is diagnostic of nothing except hardware. Solaris is as much SUN as anything else. If it were Solaris, then this could be the bug that was reported with a patch on September 4. If it is indeed SunOS (actually Solaris is SunOS5.x), then this would be a new bug report. > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 19:51:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA17892 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 19:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA28110 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 19:49:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cdshub.cdc.com (mailhub1.cdc.com [129.179.161.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA28106 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 19:49:47 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by cdshub.cdc.com; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 21:49:45 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 11:48:41 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: "R. Stewart Ellis" cc: Pine Info , Koen Claessen Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 crashes UNIX - sun4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 24 Dec 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > > > You left out the most important datum: what OS? > > > > The header showed SUN in the messageID. So, tht would make it > > SunOS4.X. It would still be nice to know the X and what compiler was > > used, cc or gcc. > > Are you sure? Since I use a real newsreader, I have no idea what the > headers Pine constructs for news articles look like. To me SUN is > diagnostic of nothing except hardware. Solaris is as much SUN as anything > else. If it were Solaris, then this could be the bug that was reported with > a patch on September 4. If it is indeed SunOS (actually Solaris is > SunOS5.x), then this would be a new bug report. Suppose I wasn't quite clear, sorry. I'm on the mailing list pine-info. The original poster's headers show: Message-ID: This indicates that "build sun" was used instead of "build sol". The "build sun" is for SunOS4.X while the "build sol" is for SunOS5.X or Solaris. So, that would lead me to conclude the OS in question to be SunOS4.X. Unless, or course, the Makefiles, etc., were hacked to make "build sun" build a Solaris environment...but I would think that somewhat unlikely. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 20:00:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA12332 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 20:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA27780 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 19:58:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gmi.edu (nova.gmi.edu [192.138.137.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA27776 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 19:58:50 -0800 Received: from localhost by gmi.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA08157; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:58:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:58:17 -0500 (EST) From: "R. Stewart Ellis" X-Sender: ellis@nova To: Edward M Greshko cc: "R. Stewart Ellis" , Pine Info , Koen Claessen Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 crashes UNIX - sun4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute - Flint MI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Dec 1996, Edward M Greshko wrote: > Return-Path: > Received: from cdshub.cdc.com by gmi.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) > id WAA08057; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:49:15 -0500 > Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by cdshub.cdc.com; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 21:49:45 -0600 > Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 11:48:41 +0800 (GMT) > From: Edward M Greshko > To: "R. Stewart Ellis" > cc: Pine Info , > Koen Claessen > Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 crashes UNIX - sun4 > In-Reply-To: Above is my pine version. > Message-ID: This is yours. > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Length: 1535 > > On Tue, 24 Dec 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > > > > > You left out the most important datum: what OS? > > > > > > The header showed SUN in the messageID. So, tht would make it > > > SunOS4.X. It would still be nice to know the X and what compiler was > > > used, cc or gcc. > > > > Are you sure? Since I use a real newsreader, I have no idea what the > > headers Pine constructs for news articles look like. To me SUN is > > diagnostic of nothing except hardware. Solaris is as much SUN as anything > > else. If it were Solaris, then this could be the bug that was reported with > > a patch on September 4. If it is indeed SunOS (actually Solaris is > > SunOS5.x), then this would be a new bug report. > > Suppose I wasn't quite clear, sorry. > > I'm on the mailing list pine-info. The original poster's headers > show: > > Message-ID: > > This indicates that "build sun" was used instead of "build sol". > The "build sun" is for SunOS4.X while the "build sol" is for SunOS5.X or > Solaris. So, that would lead me to conclude the OS in question to > be SunOS4.X. Unless, or course, the Makefiles, etc., were hacked to make > "build sun" build a Solaris environment...but I would think that somewhat > unlikely. OK. Inspecting the headers of this message, I see that the second word in the pine version info is derived from the "build x" command. I guess his bug is not the dreaded Solaris death bug. > > Regards, > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:36:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA12744 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA29793 for pine-info-out; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:34:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA29783 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:33:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcmqy-00038BC; Tue, 24 Dec 96 22:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Defeating e-mail SPAM using Pine? Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:26:08 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII First, my most humble apologies if this is a worn-out and much-discussed topic. If answers to my questions are available on the web or in a FAQ somewhere, please point me there, gently. :-) Thanks! I am SO sick of spam/ads in my mailbox, and I'm looking for ways to foil spambots searching for e-mail addresses in posts and on my web pages. Eventually, when I have every- thing in place, I'll be changing my login name and starting anew, so it won't matter if my name is already on various lists (which it obviously is...let the bounces begin!). I'm pretty used to working with Pine for both e-mail and newsreading, and even though I have access to and can use things like Eudora, News Express, etc., I choose to stick with Pine. However, I'm having a problem figuring out exactly how to configure it. It'll be obvious that I've already discovered how to change my user-domain in Setup/Config, as well as add a Reply-To in customized headers, but it's still not working the way I want it to. Every test I've done, mailing and replying to myself, still brings up my regular e-mail address. Ideally, what I want is to have the spam foil appear whenever I post to news, but to *easily* be able to *NOT* use the spam foil when I mail to friends or sign up for mailing lists. "Easily" meaning that I don't want to have to go into Setup/Config, make changes, log out, log back in, blah blah blah whenever I just want to mail my son or boyfriend or join (or unsubscribe from) a music list, etc. Tips? Suggestions? Hate mail from potential spammers? (just kidding, I doubt there are any here.) (At least here, I know I'm not going to get any well-meaning, but clueless advice to just "use a filter/killfile") My blood pressure thanks you in advance! Vickie (who would be very happy if e-mail spam were illegal) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 00:13:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA02984 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 00:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA00548 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 00:11:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cdshub100.cdc.com (mailhub1-100.cdc.com [129.179.100.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA00544 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 00:10:59 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by cdshub.cdc.com; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 02:10:56 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 16:09:53 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: "Xenu's Sister" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Defeating e-mail SPAM using Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, Xenu's Sister wrote: > First, my most humble apologies if this is a worn-out > and much-discussed topic. If answers to my questions > are available on the web or in a FAQ somewhere, please > point me there, gently. :-) Thanks! Well, I won't point you to an FAQ but I will tell you, gently, that you shouldn't alter your email address such that other have to edit it to reply to you. Then again, if you don't want replies..... > I am SO sick of spam/ads in my mailbox, and I'm looking for > ways to foil spambots searching for e-mail addresses in > posts and on my web pages. Eventually, when I have every- > thing in place, I'll be changing my login name and starting > anew, so it won't matter if my name is already on various > lists (which it obviously is...let the bounces begin!). The "spammers" are generally smart enough not to put valid return addresses with their "spam". So, the only folks to be hurt by "bounces begin" will be your postmaster and others where "bounces" will be bouncing around. Trying to hide your email address is like trying to hide your address on a surface mail. It will either be visible/correct for everyone or it will be invisible/incorrect to everyone. > I'm pretty used to working with Pine for both e-mail and > newsreading, and even though I have access to and can use > things like Eudora, News Express, etc., I choose to stick > with Pine. However, I'm having a problem figuring out > exactly how to configure it. > > It'll be obvious that I've already discovered how to change > my user-domain in Setup/Config, as well as add a Reply-To > in customized headers, but it's still not working the way > I want it to. Every test I've done, mailing and replying > to myself, still brings up my regular e-mail address. Well, I got your mangled email address and for some strange reason, (Hummmm, it is Christmas...), I took the time to edit it to reply. > Ideally, what I want is to have the spam foil appear > whenever I post to news, but to *easily* be able to *NOT* > use the spam foil when I mail to friends or sign up for > mailing lists. "Easily" meaning that I don't want to have > to go into Setup/Config, make changes, log out, log back > in, blah blah blah whenever I just want to mail my son or > boyfriend or join (or unsubscribe from) a music list, etc. > > Tips? Suggestions? Hate mail from potential spammers? (just > kidding, I doubt there are any here.) I don't think you can accomplish what you want with pine or any UA. The design you wish is just not gone into the code. > (At least here, I know I'm not going to get any well-meaning, > but clueless advice to just "use a filter/killfile") If you have the time...and the desire...you could compile pine such that it will call a program other than sendmail (I'm making the rash assumption that your pine is currently configured to call sendmail on the localhost). This program would do as you wish to the headers, etc., and then call the real sendmail to start the delivery process. IMHO, it is not worth the effort and indeed may do more harm than good. You may make better use of your time by developing a good set of rules for an inbound mail filter program like procmail. Regards, Ed P.S. Since I had to edit your address to respond to you, and since comp.mail.pine is gatewayed to a mailing list...and since I use the mailing list and not the news group your email address is once again "in the clear". Oooopppss....sorry. :-) :-) -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 01:31:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA21041 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 01:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA01541 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 01:29:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA01537 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 01:29:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vcpe7-00038TC; Wed, 25 Dec 96 01:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrey V Shain Subject: My problems with PINE resolved. Thanks all !!! Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 20:24:48 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -==- Andrey V Shain Chief of computer center E-mail: dron@raatp.msk.ru Phohe: +7 (095) 700-0870, 700-0871 dron@ambagro.ru Fax: +7 (095) 700-0673, 700-0669 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 05:37:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.11/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA21043 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 05:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA04894 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 05:34:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA04890 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 05:34:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vctOx-00038BC; Wed, 25 Dec 96 05:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: greg@newbury.edu (Greg) Subject: Re: BOMBS Date: 20 Dec 96 07:42:00 GMT Message-ID: References: <32BA1B10.1314@netcom.ca> In article <32BA1B10.1314@netcom.ca>, Nima@netcom.ca wrote: >Hi, I'm a 25 year old man, in university. I've been trying to make some >kind of explosive stuff for my big project I'm doing, so far I've had >failed because I don't have a lot expriences about bombs can you please >tell me how to make a simple bomb without using Plutonium or other >products that are hard to find? Bombs are easy to come by, if you look in the right place. Try dropping the shell account and switching to Windows. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 09:18:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA12020 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 09:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA06934 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 09:14:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from health.moph.go.th (health.moph.go.th [203.157.0.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA06930 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 09:14:47 -0800 Received: from localhost by health.moph.go.th; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/29Jul96-0315PM) id AA19976; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 00:16:42 +0700 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 00:16:42 +0700 (GMT+0700) From: Chalie To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ask and report problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 1.after type pine to enter pine main menu always saw [XON char received. Set " Preserve-start-stop"feature in setup/config. ] was shoen at the bottom of screen of pine main menu with the sound heard like a pop-pop-... 2.after press " C " to compose the E-mail always show [ Unknown command ^Q ]at the bottom of the compose message screen with the sound of pop-pop...at first that I 'm not yet to touch any keyboard command 3.How can I setup the configuration and to solve the two problem 4.I'm using pine 3.95 Thank for the advise Chalie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 13:36:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA10983 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 13:36:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA09913 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 13:33:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA09909 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 13:33:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vd0tm-00038VC; Wed, 25 Dec 96 13:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski) Subject: Re: Bulk Mail Software Date: 25 Dec 1996 21:26:52 GMT Message-ID: <59s66s$r3c@nw101.infi.net> References: <597n75$k57@crawler.dlc.fi> <597sk9$8ef@tofu.alt.net> <32BF93C0.2EDE@homepagers.com> Wayne Browning (info@homepagers.com) wrote: : So to all you well-intentioned anti-spammers please re-think : your strategy and realize that the people you are attacking are not : always con artisit but rather small business and home business trying : to use the power of the tool. All you well intentioned spammers keep in mind that it's a two way medium and as long as there's people who don't want you shoveling your crap at them, they're going to say so. Since it happens to be the vast majority of people who have any opinion on the matter, get ready for a pretty tough future. You want one way communication, go to broadcast. It's a very simple problem. You want to treat people in a way they don't want to be treated. You want money and they want respect. You'll ignore them for a long time, but they won't go away. You'll end up doing the PR job that they'd like you to; you'll make yourself into the bad guy. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 14:46:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA09742 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 14:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA11062 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 14:43:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA11058 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 14:43:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vd20x-00038VC; Wed, 25 Dec 96 14:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mlake@melake.erols.com (Marshall Lake) Subject: Attaching a File from the Command Line Date: 22 Dec 1996 00:14:57 GMT Message-ID: I posted here once before concerning this subject but received no replies. I'm hoping it was just missed by someone who can help me, so I'm posting again. Can a file be attached (externally ... not within the text body) to a mail message using Pine from the command line? If not, can someone tell me another mailer to use (or any other way) to attach a file externally please. What I want to do is automate a back-up procedure where I will be emailing back-up files off-site. I can't send the file as part of the text body because the receiver can't handle the file that way. Thanks for any help. -- Marshall Lake - TEAM Software - mlake@melake.erols.com http://melake.erols.com http://melake.erols.com/~team http://melake.erols.com/~the-beach http://melake.erols.com/~genealogy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:12:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA25463 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA10980 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:08:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA10970 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:08:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vd2Oq-00038VC; Wed, 25 Dec 96 15:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be (Benjamin Gonay) Subject: Re: Printing from Pine Date: 20 Dec 1996 09:51:33 GMT Message-ID: <59dnj5$qut@sugar.h.belgacom.be> References: <593jjg$43l@redstone.interpath.net> Michael's Music Service (ambrose@mercury.interpath.com) wrote: : Bruce Jenks (bnjenks@cpcug.org) wrote: : : ... the new pine and we have trouble : : printing all of the text of our messages. Unless it is a very short : : message, the middle or end of the text is missing. : Same here. The last screen doesn't print but the bottom help lines do. : Perhaps if we turned them off to print? : Depending your pine configuration, Pine use the same printing program as when you are on telnet or shell session, like lpr. So try first to print some text with lpr, and if it works, you should print mail from Pine. Nor, run Pine and hit 'S' ,next 'P' and choose '2' option. I'm using Pine 3.91, and it works great. Hope this help you... -- Cybersalutations ;-) and Merry Christmas... _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Email : Benjamin.Gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be _/ _/ From Brussels, Belgium , capital of Europe... _/ _/ linux forever...Linux Forever...Linux FOREVER... LINUX FOREVER !!!!! _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:31:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11009 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA11512 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:29:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cdshub100.cdc.com (mailhub1-100.cdc.com [129.179.100.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11508 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:29:24 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by cdshub.cdc.com; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 17:29:22 -0600 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 07:28:19 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Marshall Lake cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Attaching a File from the Command Line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 22 Dec 1996, Marshall Lake wrote: > Can a file be attached (externally ... not within the text body) to a mail > message using Pine from the command line? If not, can someone tell me > another mailer to use (or any other way) to attach a file externally please. You will not be able to use pine in that manner. Suggest you pick up the "metamail" distribution. It can be found at: ftp thumper.bellcore.com in pub/nsb. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:34:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA14234 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA11227 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:32:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cdshub.cdc.com (mailhub1.cdc.com [129.179.161.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11223 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:32:29 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by cdshub.cdc.com; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 17:32:26 -0600 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 07:31:23 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Chalie cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ask and report problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Chalie wrote: > 1.after type pine to enter pine main menu always saw [XON char received. > Set " Preserve-start-stop"feature in setup/config. ] was shoen at the > bottom of screen of pine main menu with the sound heard like a pop-pop-... > 2.after press " C " to compose the E-mail always show [ Unknown command > ^Q ]at the bottom of the compose message screen with the sound of > pop-pop...at first that I 'm not yet to touch any keyboard command > 3.How can I setup the configuration and to solve the two problem > 4.I'm using pine 3.95 This does not sound like a problem with pine. It sounds like you are in a "dialup" environment and that your communication SW needs some configuration and maybe even your modem. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 17:18:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA12709 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 17:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA12646 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 17:14:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA12642 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 17:14:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vd4ND-00038WC; Wed, 25 Dec 96 17:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: voldemar@sagantec.co.il (Vladimir A. Pertsel) Subject: Re: can anybody help me turn of BASE64 ? Date: 24 Dec 1996 16:43:16 GMT Message-ID: <59p174$1uu@news.NetVision.net.il> References: In article , Andrey V Shain writes: |> Pine sends letters in base64 |> [...] problems [...] cyrillic letters. |> How can I turn off base64 if it possible ? It can be safely done for ISO-8859-5, KOI8-R, CP-1241(MS-Windows Russian), but not always for CP-866(MS-DOS Russian) The same thing solves the problem with Hebrew (ISO-8859-8) Here is a patch enabling new options, that solve the problem. dont-encode-8bit-text-and-subject, dont-encode-text-attachments, I have taken it from ftp://ftp.kiae.su/unix/mail/pine3.95-rus-2b.diff.gz I have tested it on Sun-4.1, Sgi IRIX 4.0.1 and HP-UX 9000/712 The files that are changed, except for LINUX-specific os-lnx.h and makefile.lnx can be found at ftp://mail.sagantec.co.il/pub/PackRat/pine3.95.files_changed_for_koi8.tgz (231Kb) The complete changed source tree ready for compilation at ftp://mail.sagantec.co.il/pub/russian/pine3.95.with-8-th-bit.tar.gz (2099Kb) The example of pine.conf, utilising the new options at ftp://mail.sagantec.co.il/pub/russian/pine3.95-8bit-doc-config.tar.gz (11Kb) -- From the Holy Land, with respect /\ /\ Vladimir A. Pertsel S/W engineer ((ovo)) E-mail: \|/ Sagantec Israel ():::() voldemar@sagantec.co.il (o o) tel.972-4-8572781 --PVA------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------ diff -rbBc -C 3 pine3.95.orig/pine/init.c pine3.95/pine/init.c *** pine3.95.orig/pine/init.c Thu Jul 11 02:05:31 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/init.c Wed Sep 18 11:33:12 1996 *************** *** 1340,1345 **** --- 1340,1347 ---- {"disable-signature-edit-cmd", F_DISABLE_SIGEDIT_CMD}, {"enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation", F_ENABLE_8BIT}, {"enable-8bit-nntp-posting", F_ENABLE_8BIT_NNTP}, + {"dont-encode-8bit-text-and-subject", F_DONT_ENCODE}, + {"dont-encode-text-attachments", F_DONT_ENCODE_TXTATTS}, {"enable-aggregate-command-set", F_ENABLE_AGG_OPS}, {"enable-alternate-editor-cmd", F_ENABLE_ALT_ED}, {"enable-alternate-editor-implicitly", F_ALT_ED_NOW}, diff -rbBc -C 3 pine3.95.orig/pine/makefile.lnx pine3.95/pine/makefile.lnx *** pine3.95.orig/pine/makefile.lnx Fri Aug 16 11:56:15 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/makefile.lnx Wed Aug 14 19:07:51 1996 *************** *** 61,68 **** LOCLIBES= $(PICODIR)/libpico.a $(IMAPDIR)/c-client.a LIBES= $(EXTRALIBES) $(LOCLIBES) $(STDLIBES) STDCFLAGS= -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE ! CFLAGS= $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) $(EXTRACFLAGS) $(STDCFLAGS) obj= addrbook.o adrbklib.o args.o context.o filter.o \ folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o \ --- 61,69 ---- LOCLIBES= $(PICODIR)/libpico.a $(IMAPDIR)/c-client.a LIBES= $(EXTRALIBES) $(LOCLIBES) $(STDLIBES) + LOCALEFLAGS= -DLC_COLLATE -DLC_CTYPE STDCFLAGS= -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DMOUSE ! CFLAGS= $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) $(EXTRACFLAGS) $(STDCFLAGS) $(LOCALEFLAGS) obj= addrbook.o adrbklib.o args.o context.o filter.o \ folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o \ diff -rbBc -C 3 pine3.95.orig/pine/osdep/os-lnx.h pine3.95/pine/osdep/os-lnx.h *** pine3.95.orig/pine/osdep/os-lnx.h Fri Aug 16 12:55:37 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/osdep/os-lnx.h Wed Jun 5 20:13:29 1996 *************** *** 249,255 **** /*----------------- locale.h -------------------------------------------*/ ! #include /* To make matching and sorting work right */ --- 249,255 ---- /*----------------- locale.h -------------------------------------------*/ ! /* #include /* To make matching and sorting work right */ *************** *** 313,324 **** /* #include /* BSD-based systems */ /*--------- System V terminal driver -----------------------------------*/ ! /* #define HAVE_TERMIO /* this is for pure System V */ ! /* #include /* Sys V */ /*--------- POSIX terminal driver --------------------------------------*/ ! #define HAVE_TERMIOS /* this is an alternative */ ! #include /* POSIX */ --- 313,324 ---- /* #include /* BSD-based systems */ /*--------- System V terminal driver -----------------------------------*/ ! #define HAVE_TERMIO /* this is for pure System V */ ! #include /* Sys V */ /*--------- POSIX terminal driver --------------------------------------*/ ! /* #define HAVE_TERMIOS /* this is an alternative */ ! /* #include /* POSIX */ *************** *** 328,334 **** /*-------- Use terminfo database instead of termcap --------------------*/ ! #define USE_TERMINFO /* use terminfo instead of termcap */ --- 328,334 ---- /*-------- Use terminfo database instead of termcap --------------------*/ ! /* #define USE_TERMINFO /* use terminfo instead of termcap */ *************** *** 358,364 **** /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- If no nntp-servers are defined, this program will be used to post news. ----*/ ! #define SENDNEWS "/usr/lib/news/inews -h" /* news posting cmd */ /*--------- Program employed by users to change their password ---------*/ --- 358,364 ---- /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- If no nntp-servers are defined, this program will be used to post news. ----*/ ! /* #define SENDNEWS "/usr/local/bin/inews -h" /* news posting cmd */ /*--------- Program employed by users to change their password ---------*/ diff -rbBc -C 3 pine3.95.orig/pine/other.c pine3.95/pine/other.c *** pine3.95.orig/pine/other.c Thu Jul 11 02:05:59 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/other.c Tue Sep 17 14:43:04 1996 *************** *** 2484,2489 **** --- 2484,2493 ---- return(h_config_cruise_mode_delete); case F_ALLOW_GOTO : return(h_config_allow_goto); + case F_DONT_ENCODE: + return(h_config_dont_encode); + case F_DONT_ENCODE_TXTATTS: + return(h_config_dont_encode_txtatt); default : return(NO_HELP); } diff -rbBc -C 3 pine3.95.orig/pine/pine.h pine3.95/pine/pine.h *** pine3.95.orig/pine/pine.h Thu Jul 11 21:15:44 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/pine.h Wed Sep 18 11:36:32 1996 *************** *** 1153,1159 **** #define F_FROM_DELIM_IN_PRINT 80 #define F_BACKGROUND_POST 81 #define F_ALLOW_GOTO 82 ! #define F_LAST_FEATURE 82 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! --- 1153,1161 ---- #define F_FROM_DELIM_IN_PRINT 80 #define F_BACKGROUND_POST 81 #define F_ALLOW_GOTO 82 ! #define F_DONT_ENCODE 83 ! #define F_DONT_ENCODE_TXTATTS 84 ! #define F_LAST_FEATURE 84 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! diff -rbBc -C 3 pine3.95.orig/pine/pine.hlp pine3.95/pine/pine.hlp *** pine3.95.orig/pine/pine.hlp Fri Jun 21 03:45:20 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/pine.hlp Wed Sep 18 11:27:30 1996 *************** *** 363,368 **** --- 363,370 ---- o disable-signature-edit-cmd o enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation o enable-8bit-nntp-posting + o dont-encode-8bit-text-and-subject + o dont-encode-text-attachments o enable-cruise-mode (SPACE acts like tab when at end of msg) o enable-cruise-mode-delete (look at it once, then it disappears) o enable-dot-files (file browser normally hides dot files) *************** *** 5478,5483 **** --- 5480,5507 ---- characters is to leave Pine's MIME encoding turned on, but recipients who lack MIME-aware tools are often annoyed when they receive MIME-encoded messages. + + + ====== h_config_dont_encode ===== + FEATURE: dont-encode-8bit-text-and-subject + + This feature forces Pine to send message header and body \"as-is\", i.e + unencoded, even if it does contain non-ascii characters. This way the + in-country mail goes in former USSR. May be it's against the rules, but... + + So, this feature has to be set if you do use Pine within ex-USSR with + koi8-r charset. Unset it otherwise... + + + ====== h_config_dont_encode_txtatt ===== + FEATURE: dont-encode-text-attachments + + This feature forces Pine to send text attachments \"as-is\", i.e + unencoded, even if it does contain non-ascii characters. This way the + in-country mail goes in former USSR. May be it's against the rules, but... + + So, this feature has to be set if you do use Pine within ex-USSR with + koi8-r charset. Unset it otherwise... ====== h_config_tab_new_only ===== diff -rbBc -C 3 pine3.95.orig/pine/send.c pine3.95/pine/send.c *** pine3.95.orig/pine/send.c Mon Jul 8 21:10:50 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/send.c Wed Sep 18 11:49:55 1996 *************** *** 4131,4136 **** --- 4131,4141 ---- * it from getting encoded in "pine_rfc822_output_body" by * temporarily inventing a synonym for ENC8BIT... */ + + /* Changed for incorporating F_DONT_ENCODE */ + if (F_OFF(F_DONT_ENCODE, ps_global)){ + /* */ + if(bp && sending_stream->ok_8bitmime){ int i; *************** *** 4146,4151 **** --- 4151,4160 ---- } } + /* End if block for the above change */ + } + /* */ + TIME_STAMP("smtp start", 1); if(!error_mess && !smtp_mail(sending_stream, "MAIL", fake_env ? fake_env : header->env, body)){ *************** *** 4186,4195 **** --- 4195,4212 ---- error_mess = error_buf; } + /* Changed for incorporating F_DONT_ENCODE */ + if (F_OFF(F_DONT_ENCODE, ps_global)){ + /* */ + /* repair modified "body_encodings" array? */ if(bp && sending_stream->ok_8bitmime) body_encodings[bp->encoding] = NULL; + /* End if block for the above change */ + } + /* */ + TIME_STAMP("smtp closing", 1); smtp_close(sending_stream); sending_stream = NULL; *************** *** 5497,5504 **** *(p = tmp) = '\0'; rfc822_header_line(&p, field, header ? header->env : NULL, rfc1522_encode(tmp_20k_buf, (unsigned char *) text, ! ps_global->VAR_CHAR_SET)); return(((writehdr && f) ? (*f)(s, tmp) : 1) && ((localcopy && local_so && !local_written) ? so_puts(local_so,tmp) : 1)); --- 5515,5531 ---- *(p = tmp) = '\0'; rfc822_header_line(&p, field, header ? header->env : NULL, + + /* Changed to disable header encoding */ + F_OFF(F_DONT_ENCODE, ps_global) ? + rfc1522_encode(tmp_20k_buf, (unsigned char *) text, ! ps_global->VAR_CHAR_SET) ! ! : text ); ! /* Changes end here */ ! ! return(((writehdr && f) ? (*f)(s, tmp) : 1) && ((localcopy && local_so && !local_written) ? so_puts(local_so,tmp) : 1)); *************** *** 5540,5548 **** } ptmp = alist->personal; /* remember personal name */ ! alist->personal = rfc1522_encode(tmp_20k_buf, (unsigned char *) alist->personal, ! ps_global->VAR_CHAR_SET); pruned = prune_personal(alist, &ch); atmp = alist->next; alist->next = NULL; /* digest only first address! */ --- 5567,5584 ---- } ptmp = alist->personal; /* remember personal name */ ! ! /* Changed to disable header encoding */ ! alist->personal = ! F_OFF(F_DONT_ENCODE, ps_global) ? ! ! rfc1522_encode(tmp_20k_buf, (unsigned char *) alist->personal, ! ps_global->VAR_CHAR_SET) ! ! : alist->personal; ! /* Changes end here */ ! pruned = prune_personal(alist, &ch); atmp = alist->next; alist->next = NULL; /* digest only first address! */ *************** *** 5617,5625 **** tmp[0] = '\0'; ptmp = alist->personal; /* remember personal name */ ! alist->personal = rfc1522_encode(tmp_20k_buf, (unsigned char *) alist->personal, ! ps_global->VAR_CHAR_SET); pruned = prune_personal(alist, &ch); atmp = alist->next; alist->next = NULL; /* tie off linked list */ --- 5653,5670 ---- tmp[0] = '\0'; ptmp = alist->personal; /* remember personal name */ ! ! /* Changed to disable header encoding */ ! alist->personal = ! F_OFF(F_DONT_ENCODE, ps_global) ? ! ! rfc1522_encode(tmp_20k_buf, (unsigned char *) alist->personal, ! ps_global->VAR_CHAR_SET) ! ! : alist->personal; ! /* Changes end here */ ! pruned = prune_personal(alist, &ch); atmp = alist->next; alist->next = NULL; /* tie off linked list */ *************** *** 6084,6093 **** --- 6129,6152 ---- switch (body->encoding) { /* all else needs filtering */ case ENC8BIT: /* encode 8BIT into QUOTED-PRINTABLE */ + + /* Added to allow F_DONT_ENCODE */ + if (!((body->type == TYPETEXT) && + ((F_ON(F_DONT_ENCODE, ps_global) && (body->id == NULL)) || + (F_ON(F_DONT_ENCODE_TXTATTS, ps_global) && (body->id != NULL))))) + /* Changes end here */ + gf_link_filter(gf_8bit_qp); break; case ENCBINARY: /* encode binary into BASE64 */ + + /* Added to allow F_DONT_ENCODE */ + if (!((body->type == TYPETEXT) && + ((F_ON(F_DONT_ENCODE, ps_global) && (body->id == NULL)) || + (F_ON(F_DONT_ENCODE_TXTATTS, ps_global) && (body->id != NULL))))) + /* Changes end here */ + gf_link_filter(gf_binary_b64); break; *************** *** 6137,6146 **** sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst),"; %s=",param->attribute); rfc822_cat (*dst,param->value,tspecials); } while (param = param->next); ! else if (body->type == TYPETEXT) strcat (*dst,"; charset=US-ASCII"); strcpy (*dst += strlen (*dst),"\015\012"); if (body->encoding) /* note: encoding 7BIT never output! */ sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst), "Content-Transfer-Encoding: %s\015\012", body_encodings[(body->encoding == ENCBINARY) ? ENCBASE64 : (body->encoding == ENC8BIT) --- 6196,6227 ---- sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst),"; %s=",param->attribute); rfc822_cat (*dst,param->value,tspecials); } while (param = param->next); ! else if (body->type == TYPETEXT) ! ! /* Changed to insert right charset when F_DONT_ENCODE is set */ ! { ! /* strcat (*dst,"; charset=US-ASCII"); /* The only string from original file */ ! ! strcat (*dst,"; charset="); ! ! if (body->encoding && (F_ON(F_DONT_ENCODE, ps_global) && !body->id)) ! strcat (*dst,ps_global->VAR_CHAR_SET ? ps_global->VAR_CHAR_SET ! : (getenv("LANG") ? getenv("LANG") : "koi8-r")); ! else ! strcat (*dst,"US-ASCII"); ! } ! /* Changes end here */ ! strcpy (*dst += strlen (*dst),"\015\012"); if (body->encoding) /* note: encoding 7BIT never output! */ sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst), "Content-Transfer-Encoding: %s\015\012", + + /* Added to substitute encoding "8bit" for a text when F_DONT_ENCODE is set */ + ((F_ON(F_DONT_ENCODE, ps_global) && (body->type == TYPETEXT) && !body->id) || + (F_ON(F_DONT_ENCODE_TXTATTS, ps_global) && (body->type == TYPETEXT) && body->id)) + ? "8bit" : + /* Changes end here */ + body_encodings[(body->encoding == ENCBINARY) ? ENCBASE64 : (body->encoding == ENC8BIT) *************** *** 6341,6346 **** --- 6423,6432 ---- * Fake that we've got clearance from the transport agent * for 8bit transport for the benefit of our output routines... */ + + /* Changed for incorporating F_DONT_ENCODE */ + if (F_OFF(F_DONT_ENCODE, ps_global)){ + /* */ if(F_ON(F_ENABLE_8BIT_NNTP, ps_global) && (bp = first_text_8bit(body))){ int i; *************** *** 6357,6362 **** --- 6443,6452 ---- } } + /* End if block for the above change */ + } + /* */ + /* * Set global header pointer so we can get at it later... */ *************** *** 6368,6375 **** --- 6458,6474 ---- smtp_close(sending_stream); sending_stream = NULL; + + /* Changed for incorporating F_DONT_ENCODE */ + if (F_OFF(F_DONT_ENCODE, ps_global)){ + /* */ + if(F_ON(F_ENABLE_8BIT_NNTP, ps_global) && bp) body_encodings[bp->encoding] = NULL; + + /* End if block for the above change */ + } + /* */ } else { /*---- Open of NNTP connection failed ------ */ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 19:33:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA27494 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 19:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA13886 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 19:29:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA13879 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 19:29:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vd6Rb-00038XC; Wed, 25 Dec 96 19:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: 2 Fcc folders Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:44:30 -0800 Message-ID: References: <59c6aj$lh8@news1.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <59c6aj$lh8@news1.halcyon.com> Sorry, we don't have any way to have multiple Fcc's right now. You should be able to work out using Cc: and a procmail rule though... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8599.94 On 19 Dec 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > I'd like to be able to specify two Fcc folders in PC Pine for > Windows - one would be on my PC and the other would be on the > Net. Are there any plans to allow this or tricks for how to > do it now? > > Thanks, > Nancy > > -- > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 19:42:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA26940 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 19:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA14256 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 19:39:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA14252 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 19:39:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vd6f1-00038XC; Wed, 25 Dec 96 19:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Friedson Subject: Approve: and password in Header? Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 09:43:18 -0800 Message-ID: <32BC21B6.320@mail.idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to be able to send Majordomo listserver an Approve: password in the header of the message I send it. Anyone know how this can be done in Pine? thanks, John+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 20:33:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA12207 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 20:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA14554 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 20:29:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA14550 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 20:29:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vd7PX-00038XC; Wed, 25 Dec 96 20:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Changing Pines editor to vi or emacs Date: 20 Dec 1996 16:04:17 GMT Message-ID: <59ede1$k9t@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <59ace4$700@nntp-3.io.com> tpfh@io.com (The Philosopher from Hell) writes: >I hope this isn't a FAQ but I'm used to using vi (and trying to learn >emacs) and I'm wondering if there is a way to use Pine as a mail reader >with vi or emacs as the editor, because (no offense to people who like >pico or programmed it) I find pico really annoying. I like how in vi >you can move a paragraph at a time, and delete as such.... and I'm just >used to the #*$!ing thing :) >So how do I set up Pine to use vi (or pico so that it emulates vi) as >the editor? Set enable-alternate-editor-implicitly then set editor=${EDITOR} so it will track whatever your preferred editor is. >-- > \ tpfh@io.com news:alt.fan.richard-nixon http://www.io.com/~tpfh/ > / 1.look both ways when crossing roads 2.don't wear slippers 'til / > \ you're old 3.never do what you are told --Chumbawamba / > / O- Fight spam on the internet! http://www.vix.com/spam/ -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:23:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28717 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA15357 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:19:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA15353 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:19:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vd89h-00038XC; Wed, 25 Dec 96 21:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eguy@mindspring.com (Eric Guy) Subject: Re: Bulk Mail Software Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 05:06:21 GMT Message-ID: <32c40493.807155@news.mindspring.com> References: <597n75$k57@crawler.dlc.fi> <597sk9$8ef@tofu.alt.net> <32BF93C0.2EDE@homepagers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:26:40 +0500, Wayne Browning wrote: :Mad Hatter wrote: :> :> On 18 Dec 1996 03:08:21 GMT, jorge@mailloop.com spewed out the following : :> :> >-: :> >-:Mailloop is bulk-mailing software that will revolutionize how :> >-:people advertise on the internet. :> >-: :> >-:See what all the fuss is about: :> >-: :> >-:http://www.mailloop.com :> >-: :> :> you sure are trying to cover the bases here arent you jorge, leme gues if it :> says mail in the header you think they want your trash? :> :> HINT ONE the people here are the ones who want your trash disposed of, net abuse :> is abuse plain and simple has nothing to do with having your own domain :> yourstill a piece of shit abuseing the net from another domain. :>>>> :Corporations like anti-spammers as it forces out the little guy from enpowering :himself by using e-mail to market good product that would otherwise never come to light. Advertise responsibly, put up a web page, create links on web search engines, create a sig'vertisement, and post responsibly in the various newsgroups. :Have any of you anti-spanmmers ever considered this fact, or did you know it to be a fact. :While there are those who would abuse welcome to life and its' natural order, there will :abusers of all things. Those who take it upon themselves to police this are little more :than narrow mindede manipulated corporate puppets Bull, I don't want to pay for your advertisments, postage due. :whom have not caught on to the fact that the internet is being bought :up. Soon only those who could afford big marketing dollars will benefit :the little guys will lose as other little guys flame them for trying to :succeed. So to all you well-intentioned anti-spammers please re-think :your strategy and realize that the people you are attacking are not :always con artisit but rather small business and home business trying :to use the power of the tool. don't let the corporations rule give us :space to enpower ourselves. :signed, :Future Watch :Enpower don't disarm. Hey, If you pay for my internet connection, you can send me as much Unsolicited Bulk Email as you want. I'll still trash it, but I won't report you to your ISP for spamming my email box. ng clipped of trash, followups set to nanae. : ``` "You know how dumb the average person is? Well, by definition, (o o) half of 'em are dumber than THAT." - J.R. "Bob" Dobbs oOO--(_)--OOo---------------------------------------------- Sr. Systems Analyst Eric Guy *New Email Address* eguy@mindspring.com ---oOO-OOo------------------------------------------------- "Live Faust, Die Jung, Leave it to Beaver." *Notice: Unsolicited commercial email is subject to archival fee of $150 US per message--mailing denotes acceptance of these terms From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:03:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA20471 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA15526 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:59:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA15522 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 21:59:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vd8pw-00038YC; Wed, 25 Dec 96 21:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Adam Vardy Subject: Print folder Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:52:38 -0330 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it not possible to print the Pine folder Index? As in all the screens of the Inbox. I thought before that Y would do this, but apparently not. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:43:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA29148 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:43:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA16275 for pine-info-out; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:39:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA16271 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:39:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vd9QC-00038YC; Wed, 25 Dec 96 22:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@trashcan.nws.net (Michael Loftis) Subject: Re: BUG Date: 23 Dec 1996 16:48:42 GMT Message-ID: References: Notice, he NEVER mentions sending the thing back! >:-) In article , Ed Greshko wrote: >On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, A. Manio wrote: > >> I would like to report a bug or problem in our computer at home. >> When I turned it on, it said that there was no thing as a folder open when >> I opened my inbox. I don't know what happened. Only the messages in my >> inbox were erased, and no longer there. >> I hope you could find the problem along with a solution. > > If you machine is a 166Mhz Pentium or better with 1.2GB of disk >space then kindly package it and send it to the address below and I will >take a look at the problem and report back. :-) :-) > > Regards, > > Ed > >-- >Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region >Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 >FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 02:10:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA30847 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 02:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA18299 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 02:07:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA18272 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 02:05:15 -0800 Received: (from fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.4/8.6.12) id PAA04151; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:10:16 +0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961225104048.00690320@smtp1.abraxis.com> X-Sender: camcc@smtp1.abraxis.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 10:40:49 -0500 To: Cypherpunks From: camcc@abraxis.com (Alec) Subject: Bubbaonics [Ebonics] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk ReSent-Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:10:10 +0600 (GMT+0500) ReSent-From: Fyodor Yarochkin ReSent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu ReSent-Message-ID: 12/25/96 The Atlanta Journal/The Atlanta Constitution "The Vent--The Whine Line," page C2 "It's time for our schools to recognize redneck English. It's called Bubbaonics." with no attribution. Alec From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 02:52:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA30492 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 02:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA18764 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 02:50:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA18760 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 02:50:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdDKy-00038YC; Thu, 26 Dec 96 02:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Don Miller Subject: Re: Approve: and password in Header? Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 02:42:51 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32BC21B6.320@mail.idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32BC21B6.320@mail.idt.net> Hi: That should be fairly easy: From the PINE main menu, select (S)etup, then (C)onfig, then look for the entry "customized-headers" - you can specify the additional headers here (in _exactly_ the form they need to be in, in the message to be sent). In recent versions, help will be available for this item. Then, when you address a message that needs to use the custom headers, do a Ctrl-R while you are in the headers on the compose-message screen (for Rich Headers) - the additional items will be visible, and you can enter the data you wish. If you always need the same entry in these headers, you could avoid this step by including the whole string AS the custom header in the config screen entry - i.e. Password: 556671, BUT be aware that that information will be added to every message you send, unless you delete it manually... Hope that helps. Don Miller -------------------------- On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, John Friedson wrote: > I need to be able to send Majordomo listserver an Approve: password in > the header of the message I send it. Anyone know how this can be done > in Pine? /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Donald S. Miller | Windows 95: Where DID you want to go today, | | Network Operations | and HOW MANY errors did you get, saying | | JFK University | YOU CAN'T GET THERE? | | e-mail: |----------------------------------------------------| | dmiller@jfku.edu | Microsoft Monopoly: Just Say NO! | \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:45:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA22341 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:45:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA25408 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:40:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA25404 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:40:13 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA26723 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 19:38:52 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA27123; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:54:37 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:54:35 +0300 (MSK) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list cc: David L Miller Subject: Suggestion for Pine 4.x (Was: Re: 2 Fcc folders) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It is not the direct answer to original question; rather, I just use the chance to present some idea for future Pine version. Apart from the original problem (save file in several folders) there were some postings about different options for different Folders/Collections, e.g. sort order. It seems, that it could be solved by using sort of macro language in configuration. Such language shold provide: - access to info on folders (type, host for remote folders, if folder is incoming or not - any more?) - access to message info (value of headers) - access to address book - control structures (conditional, loops or goto, probably special ones like "for every address in Cc field") - some string operators (compare, match, probably special like "if this address is present in header") - variables (string in any case; associated arrays would be very helpful). It would provide general way of customizing Pine configuration. Such macros can also be seamlessly integrated in current configuration. Of course not every option is to support such macro definition - I can think of all Fcc/Sort/Save options, custom headers (yes, could be very useful for putting 'Reply-To: user+list@...' header for mailing to lists) and probably some others. I understand, that the changes are extensive, so I don't hope to see it in Pine 4.0 - but I would like to know if the idea is worthwhile. greetings and Happy New Year On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, David L Miller wrote: > > Sorry, we don't have any way to have multiple Fcc's right now. You > should be able to work out using Cc: and a procmail rule though... > > --DLM > > -- > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8599.94 > > On 19 Dec 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > > > I'd like to be able to specify two Fcc folders in PC Pine for > > Windows - one would be on my PC and the other would be on the > > Net. Are there any plans to allow this or tricks for how to > > do it now? > > > > Thanks, > > Nancy > > > > -- > > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:18:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA27791 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA26090 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:16:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA26086 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:16:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdLFf-00038ZC; Thu, 26 Dec 96 11:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomas Jess Bowers Subject: Q: Auto sort newsgroups Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 12:16:52 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I set pine to sort newsgroups by subject every time I open a group? I'm looking for a way to automate the $S key sequence and can't find the appropriate help screen. TIA, T. Jess Bowers GSU College of Law tjbowers@gsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 13:35:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA02451 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 13:35:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA28662 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 13:31:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA28652 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 13:31:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdNLS-00038bC; Thu, 26 Dec 96 13:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dacoder@netcom.com (David Coder) Subject: Problem with pine headers Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 21:14:49 GMT Problem: My posts (using pine) to mailing lists are coming back to me with "To: " instead of my own name. How can I change this? I have been in & out of setup/config a zillion times without success. Thanks. David Coder -- dacoder@netcom.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:14:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA04844 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA00590 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:11:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA00586 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:11:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdOsy-00038lC; Thu, 26 Dec 96 15:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harshavardhan D Subject: Few question on PINE. Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 18:56:34 +0500 Message-ID: <32BE8F92.49E3@infosys.ernet.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Have a couple of questions regarding PINE: 1. Can we create 'forms' in PINE as we can do in 'elm'? 2. Can additional headers be added to outgoing mails apart from those added by PINE? regards, -harsh ps. I use PINE-3.91. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:14:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA06889 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA00412 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:11:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA00408 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:11:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdOuQ-00038mC; Thu, 26 Dec 96 15:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: psalzman@landau.ucdavis.edu (Just Peter) Subject: [Q] Moving messages to mbox.pine Date: 26 Dec 1996 22:19:32 GMT Message-ID: <59utlk$b8h@mark.ucdavis.edu> hi there i run pine 3.95 (or whatever the very latest verision is). i don't want pine to ask me if i want read messages to be saved in mbox.pine, because the answer is always no. how can i get pine to stop asking me this? lastly, is there someone we can email at washington.edu for feature requests? peter From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:59:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA06860 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:59:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA01080 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:57:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cdshub.cdc.com (mailhub1.cdc.com [129.179.161.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA01076 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:57:09 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by cdshub.cdc.com; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:57:06 -0600 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 07:56:04 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Just Peter cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] Moving messages to mbox.pine In-Reply-To: <59utlk$b8h@mark.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 26 Dec 1996, Just Peter wrote: > i don't want pine to ask me if i want read messages to be saved in > mbox.pine, because the answer is always no. how can i get pine to stop > asking me this? Try reading the help on: OPTION: Read-Message-Folder and see if that will help your situation. > lastly, is there someone we can email at washington.edu for feature > requests? You can post your suggestions here and the folks at washington.edu will read them. This way other on this list can "comment" on your suggestions as well. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 16:24:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA08161 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 16:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA01461 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 16:21:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA01457 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 16:21:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdQ36-00038lC; Thu, 26 Dec 96 16:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Q: Auto sort newsgroups Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 19:03:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Thomas Jess Bowers wrote: > How do I set pine to sort newsgroups by subject every time I open a group? > I'm looking for a way to automate the $S key sequence and can't find the > appropriate help screen. TIA, Simple enough. Just set the sort-key in your personal configuration to sort by subject. That's pretty basic. If you don't know how to do that, start with the online help from the Main Menu. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:43:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA08269 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA03240 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:39:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA03236 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:39:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA07088 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:35:07 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 20:35:06 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Getting Desperate Re. Date Field Problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have posted this question before recently, but nobody seems to have an answer. I will try one more time, hoping that someone has recently joined this list who can help. I have what seems to be an intermitent problem with Pine when I send mail. The host I'm running Pine off of is Red Hat Linux version 4. The kernal is 2.0.18, and it's being run on an Alpha. We're using Pine 3.95. It seems that usually, though not always, in the Date: header of my messages, where it should be putting my time zone (CST) in parentheses, it is instead putting a control-A (^a) in parentheses instead. This screws things up for some people, changing their screen colors. I'm not using the newsgroup, but rather the pine-info mailing list. Can anyone possibly shed some light on why the system is doing this and what I can perhaps do? Thanks very much for your assistance. Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 19:55:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA24705 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 19:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA04025 for pine-info-out; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 19:47:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA04015 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 19:46:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdTDM-00038nC; Thu, 26 Dec 96 19:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sudharshan. S." Subject: Re: Automatic Bcc?? Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 08:59:22 +0500 Message-ID: <32C3499A.68F3@inf.com> References: <59v2et$l30@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, You can do this by setting the "customized-hdrs". From the Main menu, go to Setup and Config. Here you can set the "customized-hdrs" field as "Bcc: ". This would ensure automatic Blind Carbon Copy to the address specified. You can also edit the .pinerc to achieve this. Hope it helps. Sudharshan. Didier C. Charles wrote: > > Is there a way of setting up PINE so that it sends a Blind carbon copy to > another address automatically? > > Thank you > > Didier From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:07:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA09700 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:07:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA06669 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:02:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA06665 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:02:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdXCX-00038nC; Thu, 26 Dec 96 23:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Wayne Browning Subject: Re: Bulk Mail Software Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:26:40 +0500 Message-ID: <32BF93C0.2EDE@homepagers.com> References: <597n75$k57@crawler.dlc.fi> <597sk9$8ef@tofu.alt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mad Hatter wrote: > > On 18 Dec 1996 03:08:21 GMT, jorge@mailloop.com spewed out the following : > > >-: > >-:Mailloop is bulk-mailing software that will revolutionize how > >-:people advertise on the internet. > >-: > >-:See what all the fuss is about: > >-: > >-:http://www.mailloop.com > >-: > > you sure are trying to cover the bases here arent you jorge, leme gues if it > says mail in the header you think they want your trash? > > HINT ONE the people here are the ones who want your trash disposed of, net abuse > is abuse plain and simple has nothing to do with having your own domain > yourstill a piece of shit abuseing the net from another domain. >>>>Corporations like anti-spammers as it forces out the little guy from enpowering himself by using e-mail to market good product that would otherwise never come to light. Have any of you anti-spanmmers ever considered this fact, or did you know it to be a fact. While there are those who would abuse welcome to life and its' natural order, there will abusers of all things. Those who take it upon themselves to police this are little more than narrow mindede manipulated corporate puppets whom have not caught on to the fact that the internet is being bought up. Soon only those who could afford big marketing dollars will benefit the little guys will lose as other little guys flame them for trying to succeed. So to all you well-intentioned anti-spammers please re-think your strategy and realize that the people you are attacking are not always con artisit but rather small business and home business trying to use the power of the tool. don't let the corporations rule give us space to enpower ourselves. signed, Future Watch Enpower don't disarm. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 05:11:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA12649 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 05:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA10245 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 05:07:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA10241 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 05:07:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdc0G-00038nC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 05:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: Defeating e-mail SPAM using Pine? Date: 25 Dec 1996 15:15:18 GMT Message-ID: <59rge6$nvq@cdshub.cdc.com> References: In article Xenu's Sister wrote: > Sorry, I thought any replies I might get would be in this > newsgroup. They go to both places. Nothing to be sorry about. The folks on the mailing list are just as happy to be of help as the folks reading the newsgroup. For personal reasons I generally stick with the mailing list. (Except once in a while...like now). >> If you have the time...and the desire...you could compile >> pine such that it will call a program other than sendmail (I'm making the >> rash assumption that your pine is currently configured to call sendmail >> on the localhost). This program would do as you wish to the headers, >> etc., and then call the real sendmail to start the delivery process. > > It is too much trouble, but thanks for the suggestion. OK. But, as I said, I doubt that any other UA will meet your requirements. >> IMHO, it is not worth the effort and indeed may do more harm than >> good. You may make better use of your time by developing a good set of >> rules for an inbound mail filter program like procmail. > > Filters are useless for e-mail spam, except for occasional > cases like "earthstar" or "cybercom" because generally you > never know where spam going to come from. Well, that is true. But, maybe you know where most of your "non spam" email is coming from and you can sort things according to that and "shunt" the suspect mails to a folder for later review. Also, some creative keyword searches may be helpful. > The message I've been getting left and right is that the > spammers now rule the Internet, and that e-mail spam is > the price we pay for having a public net presence. I'm > having a hard time accepting that. It's bad and it's only > going to get worse. I've really loved using Pine for > mail and News, but I guess I'm going to have to search > for something else. Ah well... Again, moving to another UA is not going to solve anything. Spam is like junk mail, which I get tons of here in Taiwan, it just ends up in the trash. While it clogs up the system, it only takes less than a second to hit the delete key. It only wastes your time if you read it. >> P.S. Since I had to edit your address to respond to you, and since >> comp.mail.pine is gatewayed to a mailing list...and since I >> use the mailing list and not the news group your email address >> is once again "in the clear". Oooopppss....sorry. :-) :-) > > S'ok, I've given up on it. Thanks for answering. Good luck...a pleasure. > I had no idea that comp.mail.pine was gatewayed into a > mailing list. My profuse apologies. I won't bother you > all again. No problem!!! Don't say you are sorry since there is no need. That is what the group and mailing list are chartered to do. Regards and Happy Holidays.... Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 05:15:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA07532 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 05:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA10213 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 05:12:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA10209 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 05:12:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdc1H-00038nC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 05:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jim@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Jim Ennis) Subject: Re: Florida Land 4 lease for tree research Date: 27 Dec 1996 13:00:50 GMT Message-ID: <5a0ha2$clf@news.cc.ucf.edu> References: <32C33452.3AB@pwrnet.com> This is the wrong group but the state of Florida has many web sites. Surf one of them and contact the dept. of agriculture. Frederick King (kingfmf@pwrnet.com) wrote: : Greetings, : Could anyone email me with interests or : information on how I can lease 11.5 : acres of Florida land for the purpose : of tree research? : Thank you, : Frederick King -- Jim Ennis | jim@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu Systems Administrator | (407) 823-1701 | Fax: (407) 823-5476 University of Central Florida | Murphy's paradox: | Doing it the hard way is always easier. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 08:50:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA18000 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 08:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA12844 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 08:43:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA12840 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 08:43:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdfLp-00038pC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 08:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Emil Isberg Subject: Shell sorting inboxes .. Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:39:53 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you all .. Hmm .. I was wondering if it is possible to execute a shellscript in .pinerc ? Like incoming-folders=`/path/to/myshellcript` and myshellcript need to output: "" , "" also it would be great if two or more newshosts are defined that it uses several .newsrc files (like .newsrc-host) .. because you can subscribe to newsgroups on one host that can't be found on the other newshost .. Hmm .. could be good if you had full 8bit support in headers too (I know there are patches that do that .. but anyway) Else: you are doing a great job .. /Emil From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 09:32:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA07477 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 09:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA13277 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 09:28:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA13273 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 09:28:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdg0C-00038rC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 09:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hynek Med Subject: ipop3d security.. Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 01:22:39 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, there has been a security hole in a POP3 daemon (some buffer overflow problem), is pine's ipop3d safe from this? Hynek -- Hynek Med, xmedh02@manes.vse.cz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:08:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA14987 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA13684 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:01:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA13680 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:01:39 -0800 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id NAA43444; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 13:00:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 13:01:04 -0500 (EST) From: Gregor J Jones To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Getting Desperate Re. Date Field Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Bruce Toews wrote: | I have posted this question before recently, but nobody seems to have | an answer. | It seems that usually, though not always, in the Date: header of my | messages, where it should be putting my time zone (CST) in parentheses, | it is instead | putting a control-A (^a) in parentheses instead. I don't have really have an answer, but just so you don't feel too lonely... I am using MSDOS and PCPine, but also have access to a Unix version. I looked at your message with a DOS editor and it does indeed have a real 'crl-A' character in the Date: header. In PCPine, the information for this header is taken from an environment variable TZ, which has to be set on each machine. Mine is set to EST5EDT in one of my startup files. The details for this are in the Pine Technical Notes. I looked there for Unix information, but couldn't find anything. However, I checked on the Unix machine where I have access to Pine, and there there is the same environment variable! It seems to me that Unix Pine probably uses this as does PCPine, so your problem should be something like, 1) this environment variable is not set correctly, 2) Pine cannot access it, 3) Pine is incorrectly setup so it is misreading it. Hope that helps. Yours Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-262-8205 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:26:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA15533 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA14073 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:21:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA14065 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:21:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15204; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:16:14 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:16:13 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: Gregor J Jones cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Getting Desperate Re. Date Field Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > In PCPine, the information for this header is taken from an environment > variable TZ, which has to be set on each machine. Mine is set to EST5EDT > in one of my startup files. The details for this are in the Pine Technical > Notes. I looked there for Unix information, but couldn't find anything. > However, I checked on the Unix machine where I have access to Pine, and > there there is the same environment variable! It seems to me that Unix > Pine probably uses this as does PCPine, so your problem should be > something like, 1) this environment variable is not set correctly, 2) > Pine cannot access it, 3) Pine is incorrectly setup so it is misreading > it. I checked, and the TZ variable is set correctly. I appreciate the response, but regretably, the problem remains. Plus, it is intermitent, which makes no sense. Does anyone know if a CTRL/A has any significance for Pine? Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:44:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA14858 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA14607 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:38:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA14602 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:38:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdh99-00038sC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 10:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: Defeating e-mail SPAM using Pine? Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 04:11:43 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 25 Dec 1996, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, Xenu's Sister wrote: > > > First, my most humble apologies if this is a worn-out > > and much-discussed topic. If answers to my questions > > are available on the web or in a FAQ somewhere, please > > point me there, gently. :-) Thanks! > > Well, I won't point you to an FAQ but I will tell you, > gently, that you shouldn't alter your email address such that > other have to edit it to reply to you. Then again, if you don't > want replies..... Sorry, I thought any replies I might get would be in this newsgroup. > The "spammers" are generally smart enough not to put valid > return addresses with their "spam". So, the only folks to be > hurt by "bounces begin" will be your postmaster and others where > "bounces" will be bouncing around. > Trying to hide your email address is like trying to hide > your address on a surface mail. It will either be visible/correct > for everyone or it will be invisible/incorrect to everyone. > I don't think you can accomplish what you want with pine > or any UA. The design you wish is just not gone into the code. Right. Ok thanks. That's good to know. > If you have the time...and the desire...you could compile > pine such that it will call a program other than sendmail (I'm making the > rash assumption that your pine is currently configured to call sendmail > on the localhost). This program would do as you wish to the headers, > etc., and then call the real sendmail to start the delivery process. It is too much trouble, but thanks for the suggestion. > IMHO, it is not worth the effort and indeed may do more harm than > good. You may make better use of your time by developing a good set of > rules for an inbound mail filter program like procmail. Filters are useless for e-mail spam, except for occasional cases like "earthstar" or "cybercom" because generally you never know where spam going to come from. The message I've been getting left and right is that the spammers now rule the Internet, and that e-mail spam is the price we pay for having a public net presence. I'm having a hard time accepting that. It's bad and it's only going to get worse. I've really loved using Pine for mail and News, but I guess I'm going to have to search for something else. Ah well... > Regards, > > Ed > > P.S. Since I had to edit your address to respond to you, and since > comp.mail.pine is gatewayed to a mailing list...and since I > use the mailing list and not the news group your email address > is once again "in the clear". Oooopppss....sorry. :-) :-) S'ok, I've given up on it. Thanks for answering. I had no idea that comp.mail.pine was gatewayed into a mailing list. My profuse apologies. I won't bother you all again. Vickie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 11:46:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA16389 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 11:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA15046 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 11:38:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA15042 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 11:38:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdi2W-00038rC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 11:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Problem with pine headers Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 19:08:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, David Coder wrote: > Problem: My posts (using pine) to mailing lists are coming back to me > with "To: " instead of my own name. How can I > change this? I have been in & out of setup/config a zillion times without > success. Nothing is broken. This is just the way Pine works. The presumption is that you already know your own name, so why tell you your own name again? In version 3.95 it may be possible to reset the fields in an index listing, but I am only on 3.94, so I am uncertain about that. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:33:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05097 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA16062 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:28:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA16052 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:28:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdipb-00038uC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 12:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: da2693@aloha.net Subject: veiwing jpgs,gifs.. Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 18:08:52 GMT Message-ID: <59el8n$5hs@nuhou.aloha.net> how do i view a selected file of gifs,jpgs in pine from a newgroup.. I have opened the file and would like to veiw it graphiclly.. I get the message. x11 required.. How do i set up this.. I export the file to dir. but cant veiw it.. it seems there is no decoding available.. help appreciated.. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 13:05:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA17042 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 13:05:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA16054 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:58:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA16050 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:58:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdjIK-00038uC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 12:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fishbowl@fotd.netcomi.com (James L. McGill) Subject: MH-style folders? Date: 27 Dec 1996 14:48:58 -0600 Message-ID: <5a1cnq$27h@fotd.netcomi.com> Is it possible to use MH style folders with pine? I am interested in using procmail's capability to write to MH folders, but I suspect that Pine is not able to deal with them :-( -- g-r-a-t-e-f-u-l-l-y---[ email: ]---l-i-v-i-n-g d-e-a-d-i-c-a-t-e-d---[ http://www.conservatory.com/~fishbowl ]-----l-i-g-h-t From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:05:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA16219 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA18907 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 15:59:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA18903 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 15:59:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdmAN-00038tC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 15:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Qoute-A-Day@juno.com Subject: Good Quotes (stwMpI) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 96 23:23:41 GMT Message-ID: <5a1lpk$pq4@usenet1y.prodigy.net> Every day, we at Quote-A-Day e-mail an interesting quote to people on the Internet. 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Later, if you like, you can stop receiving this mailing by sending e-mail to Unsubscribe2@Juno.com (stwMpI) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:20:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA01704 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA18680 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:09:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA18676 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:09:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdmG5-00038tC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 16:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Qoute-A-Day@juno.com Control: cancel <5a1lpk$pq4@usenet1y.prodigy.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <5a1lpk$pq4@usenet1y.prodigy.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Dec 96 23:23:41 GMT Cancelled - doesn't fit Prodigy(r) "Terms of Use" Questions to admin@prodigy.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:38:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA08821 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA20912 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:34:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA20908 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:34:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdoaW-00038vC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 18:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jojo@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de (Juergen Sauer) Subject: Re: Automatic Forwarding? Date: 27 Dec 1996 17:21:56 +0100 Message-ID: <5a0t34$l5c@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de> References: <59k3q8$2s1$1@ulowell.uml.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Niraj Agarwalla schrieb am 22 Dec 1996 19:56:56 GMT in comp.mail.pine: NA> Does anyone know how I can set pine to automatically forward my e-mail to NA> another account? I have PINE 3.91 on a Digital Unix OS. Any ideas? Please Why bother pine even the OS can do it already ? Just put in your home directory a file called .forward with this content: $HOME/.forward -------x----cut------x----here-----x----------- nagarwal@cs.uml.edu, eleswhere@email.to.send.to.edu -------x----cut------x----here-----x----------- This mechanism is called 'forward' and may be done by every eMail system in Unix-World and is a absolute standard feature of any usable email transport system. If not, it's not a recommended email system. In this case download smail or sendmail and install it. mfG Jojo -- -Schneckenpost-SlowMail-+--------Telefon-----+---eMails-FastMail---------- Jürgen Sauer Tel. +49 4209-3021 jojo@sae.extern.fh-hannver.de Neue Str. 11 +49 172-4254411 jojo@linux.rz.fh-hannover.de 28790 Schwanewede/Germany FAX +49 4209 5217 CI$: 100013,1564 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:43:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA18594 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:43:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA21028 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:40:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA21024 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:40:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdoel-00038vC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 18:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark A. Brandel" Subject: Re: Bulk Mail Software Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 18:44:24 -0500 Message-ID: <32C1BC58.64C@quiknet.com> References: <597n75$k57@crawler.dlc.fi> <597sk9$8ef@tofu.alt.net> <32BF93C0.2EDE@homepagers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A spammer spouts bullshit. It is very easy for the 'Little Guy' to join the net. 99 percent of the spam I recieve is bullshit people trying to scam a buck. Legitimate people usually get my attention with their product or service and then ASK me if I WANT to be on their mail list, IF I am interested I join. Wayne Browning wrote: .... > Enpower don't disarm. -- Mark A. Brandel markb@quiknet.com "Reality is for those who can't handle science fiction" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:23:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA20121 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA21510 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:19:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA21506 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:19:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdpI3-00038wC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 19:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Jackson Subject: Basic Config Queston? Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 11:45:28 -0800 Message-ID: <32C42758.CFB436F@salt_peanuts.jaz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Linux 2.0 and Pine? I got the news-group to configure fine (nntp.ix.netcom.com and smpt.ix.netocm.com) but I cann't get the email configured (popd.ix.netocm.com), where does my mail server go (INBOX). tx djj From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:50:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA20605 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA21873 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:47:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kani.wwa.com (kani.wwa.com [198.49.174.58]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA21866 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:47:03 -0800 Received: from rwilshe.wwa.com by kani.wwa.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0vdpij-007WnbC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 21:46 CST Message-Id: From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: Subject: Re(2): Automatic Forwarding? Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:46:51 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Another way I'm using currently is this: Write a file in your home directory called .forward In that file, enter the email address you want your mail forwarded to. For example: me@address.com That's all you have to do. Works like a charm! (I've never tried the way below.... I'll have to give it a shot. The routine I'm using works on UNIX SVR4) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Robert J. Wilshe Chicago, Illinois Mail : rwilshe@wwa.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ---------- From: Juergen Sauer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Automatic Forwarding? Date: Friday, December 27, 1996 10:21 AM Niraj Agarwalla schrieb am 22 Dec 1996 19:56:56 GMT in comp.mail.pine: NA> Does anyone know how I can set pine to automatically forward my e-mail to NA> another account? I have PINE 3.91 on a Digital Unix OS. Any ideas? Please Why bother pine even the OS can do it already ? Just put in your home directory a file called .forward with this content: $HOME/.forward -------x----cut------x----here-----x----------- nagarwal@cs.uml.edu, eleswhere@email.to.send.to.edu -------x----cut------x----here-----x----------- This mechanism is called 'forward' and may be done by every eMail system in Unix-World and is a absolute standard feature of any usable email transport system. If not, it's not a recommended email system. In this case download smail or sendmail and install it. mfG Jojo -- -Schneckenpost-SlowMail-+--------Telefon-----+---eMails-FastMail---------- Jürgen Sauer Tel. +49 4209-3021 jojo@sae.extern.fh-hannver.de Neue Str. 11 +49 172-4254411 jojo@linux.rz.fh-hannover.de 28790 Schwanewede/Germany FAX +49 4209 5217 CI$: 100013,1564 ---------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:58:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA29525 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:58:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA21449 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:54:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA21445 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 19:54:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdpoY-00038wC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 19:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jojo@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de (Juergen Sauer) Subject: Re: veiwing jpgs,gifs.. Date: 27 Dec 1996 17:27:11 +0100 Message-ID: <5a0tcv$lc6@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de> References: <59el8n$5hs@nuhou.aloha.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit da2693@aloha.net schrieb am Fri, 20 Dec 96 18:08:52 GMT in comp.mail.pine: dan> how do i view a selected file of gifs,jpgs in pine from a newgroup.. dan> I have opened the file and would like to veiw it graphiclly.. I get the dan> message. x11 required.. How do i set up this.. [...] X11 is the common graphical environment in the Unix world, a very old speaking is X-Windows. If you are eMail reading on a workstation directly, try to start 'startx', if X11 get up try it with pine again, it should go, if you sysadmins are doing their job well. To configure a X11 base system is not recommended for beginners, it's a very complex procedure. Good Luck Jojo -- -Schneckenpost-SlowMail-+--------Telefon-----+---eMails-FastMail---------- Jürgen Sauer Tel. +49 4209-3021 jojo@sae.extern.fh-hannver.de Neue Str. 11 +49 172-4254411 jojo@linux.rz.fh-hannover.de 28790 Schwanewede/Germany FAX +49 4209 5217 CI$: 100013,1564 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:21:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA20342 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:21:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA22326 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:19:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA22322 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:19:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdqDz-00038wC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 20:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Frederick V. Heitkamp" Subject: mail lock error message Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 03:25:56 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I post or mail a message using pine 3.95 I get an error that says something to the effect that it can't write a lock or temporary file to some /mail/tmp directory or something. I can see that is a problem because I have no mail directory off the root filesystem. I do have a mail directory in my home directory. Does anyone know how I can fix this? I didn't see anything obvious in the .pinerc file. Thanks! ################################################################# # Fred Heitkamp # # Linux m68k/i486 AmigaOS OS/2 Warp # # fheitka@ibm.net fheitkamp@worldnet.att.net # ################################################################# From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:37:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA11523 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA22020 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:34:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA22014 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:34:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdqQn-00038wC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 20:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) Subject: Re: Mass mailing Date: 28 Dec 1996 01:46:59 GMT Message-ID: <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com> References: <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> In article <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine, LRC-Lienzer Dolomiten wrote: >How can i send 1000s of emails ?? type 'rm -rf * pine' at a Unix shell prompt. The "rm" means "read mail" and the "-rf" option means "really fast", which is most appropriate when you are sending out more than 100 pieces at a time. The "*" means for the "readmail" command to send to as many addresses as it can find, and the "pine" of course means to use pine to do it. The "readmail" command is named that way for historic reasons. Don't ask. HTH Bill -- billd@doa.net billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) "Yesterday, apropos of nothing, one friend said to me 'Do you ever have days where you just want to get everyone you know together in one place, have them all take off their clothes, and let nature take its course?'" --Susan Groppi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:58:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA04582 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA22775 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:55:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca (bock.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.214]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA22771 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:55:44 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA) id VAA27496 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:56:17 -0700 Received: from gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.19]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA39066 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:55:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:55:42 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Mass mailing In-Reply-To: <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Dec 1996, Bill D wrote: > type > > 'rm -rf * pine' > > at a Unix shell prompt. > > The "rm" means "read mail" and the "-rf" option means "really fast", which > is most appropriate when you are sending out more than 100 pieces at a > time. The "*" means for the "readmail" command to send to as many > addresses as it can find, and the "pine" of course means to use pine to do > it. You're hilarious, Bill. To any newbies out there who might take Bill seriously: DON'T. Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:10:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA21115 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA22948 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:07:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca (bock.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.214]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA22944 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:07:39 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA) id WAA27862 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 22:08:12 -0700 Received: from gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.19]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA62630 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 22:07:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 22:07:37 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, 'Al' Allen Scher wrote: > I had trouble contacting FTP tonight and then later tried to access Pine > and my e-mail files, particularly my inbox . It has disappeared. The > The incoming messages in inbox are not in any other file in my e-mail > group. Is there anything I can do? Since yours was the first of two reporting similar problems with pine on the same provider link, I'd suspect the problem is at your provider's end. Call and check it out. Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:23:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA21549 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:23:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA23111 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:19:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA23107 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:19:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdr7b-00038wC; Fri, 27 Dec 96 21:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dacoder@netcom.com (David Coder) Subject: Re: Problem with pine headers Message-ID: References: Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 03:50:48 GMT Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, David Coder wrote: : > Problem: My posts (using pine) to mailing lists are coming back to me : > with "To: " instead of my own name. How can I : > change this? I have been in & out of setup/config a zillion times without : > success. : Nothing is broken. This is just the way Pine works. The : presumption is that you already know your own name, so why tell : you your own name again? In version 3.95 it may be possible to : reset the fields in an index listing, but I am only on 3.94, so : I am uncertain about that. : Paul : ---------------------------------------------------------- You mean none of the other people who are posting to mailing lists are using pine? Or does the mailing list somehow know when an addressee = the original poster? DC -- dacoder@netcom.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:41:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA21432 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA22857 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:39:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cdshub100.cdc.com (mailhub1-100.cdc.com [129.179.100.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA22853 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:39:23 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by cdshub.cdc.com; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 23:39:21 -0600 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:38:19 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: David Coder cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with pine headers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 27 Dec 1996, David Coder wrote: > You mean none of the other people who are posting to mailing lists are > using pine? Or does the mailing list somehow know when an addressee = the > original poster? Please go to the setup/configure menu and find the option: index-format Then read the "?" help about this option paying close attention to the FROM and FROMORTO parameters. Also, find: alt-addresses and read the "?" help about this option. Remember the meaning of "RIF"? Reading is Fundamental. In this case, as in many cases, reading is fundamental to understanding how/why things work as they do. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 22:13:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA21161 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 22:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA23234 for pine-info-out; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 22:07:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maki.wwa.com (maki.wwa.com [198.49.174.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA23230 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 1996 22:07:34 -0800 Received: from shoga.wwa.com by maki.wwa.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0vdrvh-000rKmC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 00:07 CST Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:07:33 -0600 (CST) From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: Bill D cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mass mailing In-Reply-To: <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ahem..... not too sure I agree with this one. :) UNIX/Pine novices beware... You are a mean person, Bill! :) You had me thinking there for a second. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Robert J. Wilshe Chicago, Illinois Mail : rwilshe@wwa.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% On 28 Dec 1996, Bill D wrote: > In article <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> in newsgroup > comp.mail.pine, LRC-Lienzer Dolomiten > wrote: > > >How can i send 1000s of emails ?? > > type > > 'rm -rf * pine' > > at a Unix shell prompt. > > The "rm" means "read mail" and the "-rf" option means "really fast", which > is most appropriate when you are sending out more than 100 pieces at a > time. The "*" means for the "readmail" command to send to as many > addresses as it can find, and the "pine" of course means to use pine to do > it. > > The "readmail" command is named that way for historic reasons. Don't > ask. > > HTH > Bill > > > -- > billd@doa.net billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) "Yesterday, apropos of nothing, > one friend said to me 'Do you ever have days where you just want to get > everyone you know together in one place, have them all take off their > clothes, and let nature take its course?'" --Susan Groppi > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:35:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA23083 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA24849 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:30:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA24834 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:30:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdu7B-00038wC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 00:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dn544@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Didier C. Charles) Subject: Automatic Bcc?? Date: 26 Dec 1996 23:41:17 GMT Message-ID: <59v2et$l30@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Is there a way of setting up PINE so that it sends a Blind carbon copy to another address automatically? Thank you Didier From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 01:29:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA09694 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 01:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA26003 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 01:25:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA25999 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 01:25:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vduwd-00038wC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 01:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Frederick King Subject: Florida Land 4 lease for tree research Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:28:34 -0800 Message-ID: <32C33452.3AB@pwrnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, Could anyone email me with interests or information on how I can lease 11.5 acres of Florida land for the purpose of tree research? Thank you, Frederick King From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 03:59:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA18073 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 03:59:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA27118 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 03:55:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA27114 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 03:55:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdxHn-00038wC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 03:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barry@clark.net (Barry Strassler) Subject: addressbackup Date: 28 Dec 1996 11:40:27 GMT Message-ID: <5a30vb$6lc@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello I am new to this newsgroup and am seeking help or advice. I maintain a weekly e-mail newsletter of some 3,000 subscribers. The subscriber addresses are maintained on my Pine Distribution list. I also maintain a back up file of these addresses on my Excel spreadsheet, in case of catastrophe. I FTP the Pine Distribution list onto my Excel spreadsheet and discovered that my old temporary, one-time short mailing lists that I have deleted a long ago, have been appended into the FTP file. Why is it that? Is it something I should be concerned about to save unix shell space or something I should ignore as a quirk. Hope to hear from any of you and thanks. Barry Strassler barry@clark.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 04:19:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA13174 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 04:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA28084 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 04:15:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA28080 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 04:15:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdxeE-00038wC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 04:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruno Rosenthal Subject: Pine PC as a ROL, possible ? Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 09:55:13 -0800 Message-ID: <32C40D81.36A@amsat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, Could someone help me to solve my problem ? I'm connected to an Internet Provider which enables me to connect to his host with VT100 term emulation. His host is running Linux O/S and when connected I just have to start a host-Pine session which works quite well. The only problem for me is that everything must be done On-Line which costs me telephone charges (compose and read mail). I would like to know if the Pine PC software could allow me to prepare mail off line then connect and transmit for just mail/file transferring, then read mail received off line. I've tried to use the Pine-PC offline to prepare mail but it does'nt want to enter the Compose option without having a remote folder open (i.e. to be already connected to the ISP). I've tried then to launch my Pine-PC after connecting to my ISP through an external dialer (Trumpet Winsock) whose I've customized the login script. Login OK, no success with Pine-Pc. Thanks for any help you could provide. In the meantime, I wish you, all, a very Happy New Year. Best Regards Bruno From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:12:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA24571 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA28798 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:05:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA28794 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:05:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vdzM6-00038wC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 06:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: avir@black (Alexander Virtser) Subject: Pine as Mail Editor in Lynx Date: 28 Dec 1996 13:44:15 GMT Message-ID: <5a387f$o4d@news.huji.ac.il> Hi! I tried to put pine as e-mail editor in Lynx, but when I write some comment to some Home Page owner, I get something like this: To: HGDS/DJHD/hgwd@math.bgu.ac.il Why? How can I make Pine to write in the To: entry the e-mail address of the Home Page owner? -- 10x & Byebye ... ___ _ ___ _ _ | . \ ___ <_>/ __> ___ | \ | E-mail .............: avir@math.bgu.ac.il | _// . \| |\__ \/ . \| | FidoNet ...................: 2:403/467.77 |_| \___/|_|<___/\___/|_\_| UltiNet ..................: 97:200/267.77 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 07:02:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA24979 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 07:02:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA29316 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:59:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA29311 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:59:01 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:57:56 +0800 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:57:56 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Bruno Rosenthal cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine PC as a ROL, possible ? In-Reply-To: <32C40D81.36A@amsat.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Very sorry to say that pine does not yet support disconnected mode operations. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 07:23:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA24257 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 07:23:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA00322 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 07:20:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA00318 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 07:20:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ve0YA-00038zC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 07:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Mass mailing Date: 28 Dec 1996 15:15:47 GMT Message-ID: <5a3dj3$ahg@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com> billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) writes: >In article <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> in newsgroup >comp.mail.pine, LRC-Lienzer Dolomiten >wrote: >>How can i send 1000s of emails ?? >type You forgot the first two commands: 'su' 'cd /' >'rm -rf * pine' >at a Unix shell prompt. >The "rm" means "read mail" and the "-rf" option means "really fast", which >is most appropriate when you are sending out more than 100 pieces at a >time. The "*" means for the "readmail" command to send to as many >addresses as it can find, and the "pine" of course means to use pine to do >it. >The "readmail" command is named that way for historic reasons. Don't >ask. >HTH >Bill >-- >billd@doa.net billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) "Yesterday, apropos of nothing, >one friend said to me 'Do you ever have days where you just want to get >everyone you know together in one place, have them all take off their >clothes, and let nature take its course?'" --Susan Groppi -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:31:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA25396 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA00395 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:25:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA00391 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 08:25:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ve1Wu-00038yC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 08:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Subject: prYnt Command Date: 26 Dec 1996 21:49:23 GMT Message-ID: <59urt3$evi$1@news.sas.ab.ca> A curious thing has developed. When I first started on the Freenet, we were using PINE, and were told that theb Y command will print ON THE FREENET SERVER, and since there was no printer attached to this server, it won't print anything. For the past 6 months, I have been getting questions from people who said: "I used to be able to print my email using the Y command, but now it doesn't seem to work, or it prints gibberish, what is wrong?" I have written our resident PINE expert, and Washington University about this and have not received a response. I have had no trouble printing on my sister's bubblejet printer so I do not know WHY, A: some people CAN print and others can't, and B: some people USED to be able to print, but now can't. Any suggestions? Steve Thorne -- Ramblins courtesy of The Edge Magazine http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~thornes "Grandma got run over by a reindeer, walking home from our house Christmas Eve. You can say there's no such thing as Santa, but as me and Grandpa, we believe." -Will Millar- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:22:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA12111 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA01706 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:18:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA01696 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:17:54 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 28 Dec 96 19:17:39 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00299 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:04:28 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:04:28 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: veiwing jpgs,gifs.. In-Reply-To: <5a0tcv$lc6@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Dec 1996, Juergen Sauer wrote: >da2693@aloha.net schrieb >am Fri, 20 Dec 96 18:08:52 GMT in comp.mail.pine: >dan> how do i view a selected file of gifs,jpgs in pine from a newgroup.. >dan> I have opened the file and would like to veiw it graphiclly.. I get the >dan> message. x11 required.. How do i set up this.. >[...] >X11 is the common graphical environment in the Unix world, a very old >speaking is X-Windows. >If you are eMail reading on a workstation directly, try to start >'startx', if X11 get up try it with pine again, it should go, >if you sysadmins are doing their job well. Another way - an easier one I guess>;-> - would be to get a command-line picture viewer (see bottom of message). Why start X for emailing? >To configure a X11 base system is not recommended for beginners, >it's a very complex procedure. Is it? If you're using an advanced LinuX distrib like the German S.u.S.E., it's a cakewalk, provided you got your tex-spex-sheets at hand. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | GRAV 3.5 (C) Michael Knigge | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ I've uploaded the fourth public Release of my Graphic-Viewer GRAV to sunsite.unc.edu and tsx-11.mit.edu. GRAV runs at the Linux Console (NOT X11!!!). It uses a nice (I think so) User Interface to select the images you want to look at. GRAV supports many popular formats of graphics: GIF, PCX, LBM, IFF, PPM PBM, BMP, JPEG, PNG and many many other.... To get GRAV running you must have installed at least NCurses 1.8 and SVGALIB 0.98. Newer releases would be better of course ;-) But beware that there are some bugs in ncurses versions > 1.8.7 and < 1.9.1a and GRAV will probably not run with these versions of ncurses. And for the new JPEG-Support you need the JPEGLIB >= 5.0 from the IJG! There are no really "new" features, but I think GRAV now looks a little bit nicer at some points, I fixed many bugs and I've included the full source code of all used libraries - so all you ELF users can now use GRAV, too. Sometimes GRAV can't handle PING-Images correctly. Please eMail your Ping-Images to me if you have problems with them. Especially I need some Truecolor Ping-Images for testing! So, watch out for the files grav-3.5.tar.gz and grav-3.5.lsm! Please send any suggestions, comments and cakes ;-) to knick@cove.han.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:23:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA24515 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:23:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA01695 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:17:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA01691 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:17:39 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 28 Dec 96 19:17:33 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00514 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:20:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:20:19 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Mass mailing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 27 Dec 1996, Lea wrote: >On 28 Dec 1996, Bill D wrote: > >> type >> >> 'rm -rf * pine' >> >> at a Unix shell prompt. >> >> The "rm" means "read mail" and the "-rf" option means "really fast", which >> is most appropriate when you are sending out more than 100 pieces at a >> time. The "*" means for the "readmail" command to send to as many >> addresses as it can find, and the "pine" of course means to use pine to do >> it. > >You're hilarious, Bill. > >To any newbies out there who might take Bill seriously: >DON'T. You're pathetic - anyone trying to harrass people sending mass mail ought to know that command. If they don't, they don't deserve any better... Well, even if they did, they wouldn't. Nevermind, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:59:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA12269 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA02939 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:56:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA02935 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:56:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ve3sf-00038yC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 10:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Al Byers Subject: Using -i option Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:24:31 -0500 Message-ID: <32B7FE9F.76D7@cfw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I periodically perform this exercise in frustration by asking if anyone can tell me how to tab from one header field to the next using the initial keystroke option, -i. From the console, the tab or enter key works fine, but I cannot find a way to embed those keystrokes in my keystroke list. I can get into the compose mode all right, but then it interprets everything as an address. -- Al Byers Automation Group of Virginia, Inc. byersa@cfw.com P.O. Box 1091 540.949.8777 Waynesboro, VA 22980 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:21:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA31295 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA04711 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:16:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA04706 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:16:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ve70v-00038yC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 14:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbrown@btc.btechnet.com (Paul B. Brown) Subject: Re: subscribe Date: 27 Dec 1996 21:23:25 GMT Message-ID: <5a1eod$jt8@news.dgsys.com> References: In-Reply-To: Not quite, big guy! Try sending this to a mailing list instead of Usenet. Also a better format would be: subscribe pine-info OR subscribe pine-info rjk@beta.loyno.edu Majordomo does not understand how to send e-mail to "Russell Johnson" but does know how to send to "rjk@beta.loyno.edu". Luck . . . . Paul In article , rkj@beta.loyno.edu (Russell Johnson) writes: > subscribe pine-info Russell Johnson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:59:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA15895 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:59:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA06365 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:56:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA06361 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 15:56:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ve8aP-00038yC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 15:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barry@clark.net (Barry Strassler) Subject: addressbackup Date: 28 Dec 1996 23:53:57 GMT Message-ID: <5a4bul$5b2@nr1.vancouver.istar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello I am new to this newsgroup and am seeking help or advice. I maintain a weekly e-mail newsletter of some 3,000 subscribers. The subscriber addresses are maintained on my Pine Distribution list. I also maintain a back up file of these addresses on my Excel spreadsheet, in case of catastrophe. I FTP the Pine Distribution list onto my Excel spreadsheet and discovered that my old temporary, one-time short mailing lists that I have deleted a long ago, have been appended into the FTP file. Why is it that? Is it something I should be concerned about to save unix shell space or something I should ignore as a quirk. Hope to hear from any of you and thanks. Barry Strassler barry@clark.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 16:14:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA28857 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 16:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA05916 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 16:10:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from upsmot03.msn.com (upsmot03.msn.com [204.95.110.85]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA05912 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 16:10:01 -0800 Received: from upmajb02.msn.com (upmajb02.msn.com [204.95.110.74]) by upsmot03.msn.com (8.6.8.1/Configuration 4) with SMTP id QAA01411 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 16:09:22 -0800 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 96 00:06:01 UT From: "Tom Sage" Message-Id: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.95 on AIX 4.1 During COMPOSE MESSAGE, when I enter ^X to send the message, Pine will seem to hang for 2+minutes at the message "[Sending mail 0%]". Thanks for any suggestions. Tom Sage From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:29:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA17528 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA07630 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:27:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA07626 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:26:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veA1G-00038yC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 17:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jojo@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de (Juergen Sauer) Subject: Re: Mass mailing Date: 28 Dec 1996 15:57:42 +0100 Message-ID: <5a3ch6$jos@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de> References: <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit LRC-Lienzer Dolomiten schrieb am Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:02:52 +0100 in comp.mail.pine: LD> Can anybody tell me: LD> How can i send 1000s of emails ?? Yes, but I won't. I do not support spawner. mfG Jojo -- -Schneckenpost-SlowMail-+--------Telefon-----+---eMails-FastMail---------- Jürgen Sauer Tel. +49 4209-3021 jojo@sae.extern.fh-hannver.de Neue Str. 11 +49 172-4254411 jojo@linux.rz.fh-hannover.de 28790 Schwanewede/Germany FAX +49 4209 5217 CI$: 100013,1564 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:56:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA29758 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA07365 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:52:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA07361 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 17:52:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veALw-00038yC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 17:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: .sig at end? Date: 29 Dec 1996 01:22:28 GMT Message-ID: <5a4h4k$5b2@nr1.vancouver.istar.net> References: <5a2k6r$atk@news.preferred.com> Stephen Lane writes: >hi, i'm a relatively new user of pine (3 months), and i have >a simple problem/question. when i reply to a message, my >.sig appears -above- the quoted message, rather than below. >my sysadmin says he's always seen this behavior, but i think >it's kinda wacky (elm always put the .sig at the end). Your sysadmin sounds kind of clueless. >anything i can do about this? i'm a very experienced unix >user, if that helps any. and yes, i did read pinerc and >the FAQ :). thanks for any help, Steve While in pine, go to the main menu, type 's', then 'c', then read all the wonderful config options. You will find one of them does what you are looking for. >-- >Steve Lane >Preferred Internet, Inc. of East Tennessee and Southwest Virginia -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:11:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA17884 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA08825 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:07:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA08821 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:07:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veBXJ-00038yC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 19:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeff@jehosophat.com (Jeff Davis) Subject: Re: Mass mailing Date: 28 Dec 1996 13:52:16 GMT Message-ID: References: <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com> In article , Robert J. Wilshe wrote: : :Ahem..... not too sure I agree with this one. :) UNIX/Pine novices :beware... : :You are a mean person, Bill! :) You had me thinking there for a second. : I don't know, given the volume of SPAM these days I think it was a GREAT answer to a guy who asked "how can I get PINE to send 1000's of emails" Nice job Bill! -- Jeff Davis Finger: PGP Key ID 87C3D289 http://jehosophat.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:30:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA22516 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:30:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA08458 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:27:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA08454 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:27:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veBqS-00038yC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 19:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: psalzman@landau.ucdavis.edu (Just Peter) Subject: Re: Bulk Mail Software Date: 26 Dec 1996 21:52:48 GMT Message-ID: <59us3g$b8h@mark.ucdavis.edu> : Future Watch : Enpower don't disarm. Future Watch, Your argument is absolutely stupid and naive. Here is the blatant hole in your garbage argument: Once the "small companies" are all gone, we only have the few large mega spam companies to deal with, right? Well, once that happens, our sysadms can all block them, and then they'll die too. Case in point. My school has blocked all email coming from the domain moneyworld.com. What do you think will happen to that company if EVERYBODY blocked their email? You can't have a billion blocked domains. Better that we take action into our own hands for the small guys, and let our school/company/what ever take care of the rest. Personally, I think we should send people who take advantage of free USENET posting to advertise products to prison. Then again, I know that i'm somewhat of a radical on this point. Peter ps- *.test newsgroups have been DELETED from the followup header. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:44:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA29408 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:44:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA09218 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:42:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA09214 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:42:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veC61-00038yC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 19:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pappa Schlumpf Subject: Re: Pine for Win95 Date: 24 Dec 1996 15:08:11 GMT Message-ID: <59orkr$fvk@pf1.phil.uni-sb.de> References: <32BE3714.4D41@vyger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Alan Blakely wrote: AB:Hi. I've been using pine on my Linux box for some time now, and want to AB:install it on my Win95 machine. I have unzipped it, and followed the AB:installation instructions as far as I know, but keep getting 2 errors AB:which drive me nuts: AB:1. Access error when trying to open mail folders. AB:2. Can't "C"ompose mail; get error saying "Can't send message without AB:an open remote folder." AB:Ideas? AB:Thanks! Nod. I had the same, and I managed it to remove them. In pinerc you must fill in the remote INBOX path like: {fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de}INBOX. It seems that pine must!!! have an open remote connection versus tcp/ip and IMPAD. ThatŽs the reason I deleted it from my w95, using Microsoft Mail an News tool. Second Problem is, that PC Pine for W95 does't manage to make pipes, so I can't use pgp (my main reason to install pine on pc). On linux everything is working fine. Perhaps someone else knows how to set up pine for offline reading/mailing and using pgp under w95. That's all, Schlumpf. - -- Christian Stoehr aka Pappa Schlumpf emails:schlumpf@{schlumpfhausen.cs|fsinfo.cs|calypso.cs|cscip|asta}.uni-sb.de When old friends come together, everything is losing its sense. War, Famine, Pestilence and Death. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: PGP encrypted by Pappa Schlumpf aka Christian Stoehr iQCVAwUBMr/yGouj86la0yeVAQF6HAP/V8PI8PjZQGSHOyYuUDIIEPe9C3weok0D pnLHItxs9SsnATlIH41jftvByuhqYNcQms/igef/XPyVzDkxac5h3kcAcrb6wXvT YbIpxDTH10K83PtiZ9RFXQkbeW1XTmYutEbMQEL25PgD7kLIvi9W88GZqbR3c7sM l2tTz4DzhlY= =KYM1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:47:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA28807 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:47:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA08702 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:43:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from commedia.smsu.edu (commedia.smsu.edu [146.7.105.20]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA08698 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:43:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (wicks@localhost) by commedia.smsu.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11320 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 21:44:22 -0600 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 21:44:22 -0600 (CST) From: "Randolph L. Wicks Jr." cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <59us3g$b8h@mark.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:50:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA30571 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA08775 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:47:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA08771 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:47:21 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 29 Dec 96 04:47:15 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA02655; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:44:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:44:30 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: off-topic, was [Re: Mass mailing] In-Reply-To: <5a3ch6$jos@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Dec 1996, Juergen Sauer wrote: >LRC-Lienzer Dolomiten schrieb >am Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:02:52 +0100 in comp.mail.pine: >LD> Can anybody tell me: >LD> How can i send 1000s of emails ?? > >Yes, but I won't. >I do not support spawner. /* flame on This thread makes me wonder if it wouldn't be convenient to either have a moderator (yeah, unlikely and unwanted, but still always nice to have) or some kind of warning in the auto-reply to any subscription to the list. "Inspired" by the large amount of requests for procmail/automailer-related mailings in the last few weeks, I'd like to suggest something along these lines: "If you: - tend to mail/post stuff that is obviously unrelated to the respective mailing list or newsgroup; - haven't RTFM at least three times; - think a faq is something obscene/kewl/uninteresting/unneccessary/; - haven't consulted the online help; - are using LinuX because some sleazy creep in a hip "online magazine" has announced it at the hippest thing to do this month; - feel the compulsion to harrass people by drooling them to death on a regular basis; - think cross-postings are really nice; - think mass mails are a cool way to make total strangers really, really happy; - want to make money fast; - (worst of all) have a provider with something like "online", "telekom" or "cool" in its address; PLEASE a) get a life, b) drop dead, c) use Win95". */ flame off Apart from that... Is there any way to influence the way pine sorts the reply-to's when there are several recipients? In the case of this mail, I had (?) to manually delete the original author's address and replace it with the list's. Thanks for any kind of non-medical help in advance. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:06:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA31391 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA08965 for pine-info-out; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:02:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA08961 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 20:02:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veCOY-00038yC; Sat, 28 Dec 96 19:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbgeo002@huey.csun.edu (jeffrey trust) Subject: Re: Field To: problem References: Message-ID: <32b89cf6.0@newz.csun.edu> Date: 19 Dec 96 01:40:06 GMT Andrey V Shain (dron@raatp.msk.ru) wrote: > When I attempt replay to any message, pine put REAL NAME and then addres > in To: field. As example To: Andrey Shain There isn't a problem with this. Pine only cares about what's inside < >. In fact, pine will complain if you try to form an invalid address (i.e., an address without anything after the '@'). Jeffrey -- Jeffrey Trust (jtrust@csun.edu). Student, Dept. of Geological Sciences, California State University, Northridge (for which I don't speak). "The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves." -John Muir http://www.csun.edu/~hbgeo002/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:31:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA28355 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA13094 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:28:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA13090 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:28:28 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA09119; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:01:25 +0530 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:01:25 +0530 (IST) From: Prateek A Rastogi X-Sender: prateek@giasbma To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Dead-letter. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello Pine users! Kindly take a minute to read my problem. Whenever i cancel a letter pine writes a dead-letter in my home dir..which i have to remove using the rm command.Although it doesn't cause any problems it is very troublesome. Is there any way i can stop pine from writing the dead-letter? Thanking you, Prateek. -. .- _..-'( )`-.._ ./'. '||\\. (\_/) .//||` .`\. ./'.|'.'||||\\|.. (o o) ..|//||||`.`|.`\. ./'..|'.|| |||||\`````` '`"'` ''''''/||||| ||.`|..`\. ./'.||'.|||| || Prateek A.Rastogi ||||||.`||.`\. /'|||' Email:prateek@giasbma.vsnl.net.in '|||`\ '.|||'.||||||| |||| ||||||||||||.`|||.` '.||| ||||||||| |/' ``\||`` ''||/'' `\| ||||||||||||.` |/' \./' `\./ \!|\ /|!/ \./' `\./ `\| V V V }' `\ /' `{ V V V ` ` ` V ' ' ' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:28:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA01045 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA13694 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:26:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA13690 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:26:15 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:25:14 +0800 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:25:14 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: Prateek A Rastogi cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Dead-letter. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, Prateek A Rastogi wrote: > Whenever i cancel a letter pine writes a dead-letter in my home > dir..which i have to remove using the rm command.Although it doesn't cause > any problems it is very troublesome. Is there any way i can stop pine from > writing the dead-letter? In a previous post I wrote something along like.... Some years ago the US government would broadcast an "informercial" on TV and radio. The theme of these was "RIF". The meaning of "RIF"? Reading is Fundamental. These broadcast were to extol the virtues of reading for sake of knowledge. In this case, as in many cases, reading is fundamental to understanding how/why things work as they do. So, in the spirit of "RIF", why not go to setup/configure and find the option: [X] quell-dead-letter-on-cancel Then, "read" the "?" help...... While you are there....why not spend a few minutes, as you say, reading! It may save you having to ask questions and waiting for some person to feel sorry for you and answer your questions. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:35:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA31424 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:35:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA13756 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:33:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA13752 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:33:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veIWY-000391C; Sun, 29 Dec 96 02:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski) Subject: Re: Bulk Mail Software Date: 27 Dec 1996 06:46:33 GMT Message-ID: <59vrc9$db@nw101.infi.net> References: <59us3g$b8h@mark.ucdavis.edu> Just Peter (psalzman@landau.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : : Personally, I think we should send people who take advantage of free : USENET posting to advertise products to prison. Then again, I know that : i'm somewhat of a radical on this point. Prison? They can't pay the fines if they're in prison. It's a fine idea, certainly, but the end of spam is nigh. It's in the courts and thefederal agency conference rooms as we speak. The decision is determined. All that remains is how to write it up properly. That and deciding if the fines set forth in USC 47 section 227 are appropriate. These assholes waste a LOT of disk space when taken together. It could well cost them a lot more than the $500 per. Lock and load, folks. Keep them at bay until the ruling is handed down. We ARE going to win this one. Very shortly. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:47:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA01175 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA13333 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:44:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA13323 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:44:16 -0800 Received: (from pdp@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id QAA09655; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 16:15:14 +0530 (IST) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 16:15:14 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Mr. Parag Dundappa Patil" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: please could u send me the information if a offline email writer for pine is available. if available i would be interested in buying it . thanking u. parag. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:57:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA32230 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:57:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA14892 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:53:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA14888 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:53:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veKhH-000391C; Sun, 29 Dec 96 04:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Daniel W. Erskine" Subject: Using Pine 3.94 with POP3 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 07:57:18 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings: Being somewhat out-of-touch with this newsgroup, can someone tell me how to configure Pine 3.94 for use with a POP3 server? I would appreciate!!! Thank you for your time, ------------------------------------------------------ THE PRECEDING REFLECTS THE VIEWS OF THE AUTHOR AND NOT, NECESSARILY, THE VIEWS OF EDWARD JONES. ------------------------------------------------------ Daniel W. Erskine "mailto:derskine@apci.net" (314) 515-2226 "mailto:sys0087@edwardjones.com" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:44:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA12496 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA19681 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:35:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA19677 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:35:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA11115; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:33:50 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:33:49 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: Prateek A Rastogi cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Dead-letter. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, here's the standard reply to many questions. From the main menu, choose (s)etup and (c)onfig. One of the options there does exactly what you're after. Bruce On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, Prateek A Rastogi wrote: > Hello Pine users! > Kindly take a minute to read my problem. > Whenever i cancel a letter pine writes a dead-letter in my home > dir..which i have to remove using the rm command.Although it doesn't cause > any problems it is very troublesome. Is there any way i can stop pine from > writing the dead-letter? > > Thanking you, > Prateek. > > -. .- > _..-'( )`-.._ > ./'. '||\\. (\_/) .//||` .`\. > ./'.|'.'||||\\|.. (o o) ..|//||||`.`|.`\. > ./'..|'.|| |||||\`````` '`"'` ''''''/||||| ||.`|..`\. > ./'.||'.|||| || Prateek A.Rastogi ||||||.`||.`\. > /'|||' Email:prateek@giasbma.vsnl.net.in '|||`\ > '.|||'.||||||| |||| ||||||||||||.`|||.` > '.||| ||||||||| |/' ``\||`` ''||/'' `\| ||||||||||||.` > |/' \./' `\./ \!|\ /|!/ \./' `\./ `\| > V V V }' `\ /' `{ V V V > ` ` ` V ' ' ' > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:39:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05587 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA19722 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:32:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA19718 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:32:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veRpl-00038VC; Sun, 29 Dec 96 12:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tkn@wien.speech.ibm.com (Thomas K. Netousek) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 on AIX 4.1 Date: 29 Dec 1996 19:33:22 GMT Message-ID: <5a6h22$b0u@lisa.speech.ibm.com> References: I assume pine is waiting for sendmail to deliver the message. One should be able to tell sendmail to deliver in the background, but this "feature" did not yet annoy me enough to dig into the source. Thomas Netousek From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:56:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05145 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:56:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA20453 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:47:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA20449 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:47:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veS8Q-00038VC; Sun, 29 Dec 96 12:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbrown@btc.btechnet.com (Paul B. Brown) Subject: Re: Mass mailing Date: 29 Dec 1996 19:24:10 GMT Message-ID: <5a6ggq$li6@news.dgsys.com> References: In-Reply-To: <5a4svn$5b2@nr1.vancouver.istar.net> thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () writes: >Hello, >I agree that fooling someone who 'appears' to be doing a spam is clever, >but for those of us who are A: Unitiated, and B: Prone to experimentation, >what exactly DOES Bill's command do (I do not have access to my servers >command line anyway, soooo...), just so that some slightly adventurous >person does not actually DO this. > >Steve > Your kidding, right Steve? Well, in case you are not: rm -rf * rm = remove a file or directory. -r = a flag for rm telling it to remove all files and directories from a given point recursing through all subdirectories. -f = a flag for rm telling it to force the removal of the file or directory. * = means accept all files and directories as arguments So, rm -rf * Will remove everything from wherever you in a given filesystem. Now lets assume you are root and you are at the root level: su - makes you root cd / - takes you to the root level of the root filesystem Executing the command will wipe you harddisk(s)! . . . and have a nice day! ;-> Paul From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:07:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA05692 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA20074 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:02:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA20070 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:02:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veSIW-00038VC; Sun, 29 Dec 96 12:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: LRC-Lienzer Dolomiten Subject: Mass mailing Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 21:02:52 +0100 Message-ID: <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anybody tell me: How can i send 1000s of emails ?? thanx From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:04:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA06071 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA21426 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:58:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA21422 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:58:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veUB0-00038VC; Sun, 29 Dec 96 14:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: 29 Dec 1996 17:44:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) writes: >Does anyone know of a Unix POP client I could use that does not require >me to become root to install it? I have a shell account with my local >ISP and would like to check mail on my POP account from time to time when >I only have access to telnet. Ideally, I'd like something that would >allow me to check the messages waiting for me on the POP server without >removing them. > >It'd be treat if PINE or elm could read from POP servers, but I don't >think they can. Many (maybe most) ISPs have imapd installed on their mail server so you can access your messages using either a POP client or an IMAP client. To see if your ISP has imapd installed, edit your .pinerc file so it contains: incoming-folders=ispx.inbox {mail.ispx.com/user=mwu}inbox Where * ispx is replaced by your ISP's name (e.g., crl) * mail.ispx.com is replaced by the mail server (aka pop server) * mwu is replaced with your login name on that system Now start up pine and go to the folder list (by typing L) and tab to ispx.inbox and press return. If you get an error message then send ispx a message asking them to install imapd. If they say no, tell them that Netscape Communicator, which is in beta now, supports IMAP and if they want to stay in business they should probably eventually support IMAP. If they do it now and announce it on their Web pages, they'll look like they are staying on top of the industry. Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 16:37:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA03678 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 16:37:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA22955 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 16:33:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA22951 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 16:33:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veVep-00038WC; Sun, 29 Dec 96 16:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fishbowl@fotd.netcomi.com (James L. McGill) Subject: Large folders take long to close Date: 27 Dec 1996 17:58:45 -0600 Message-ID: <5a1nrl$3mf@fotd.netcomi.com> Even on a very, very fast machine, with a very, very large amount of RAM, large folders (e.g., 2 months worth of linux-kernel@vger), take a long, long time to close. They open quickly, but when I want to change to another folder, it takes a very long time to close 'this' one. I'm talking about tens of seconds for approx. 2500 messages. -- g-r-a-t-e-f-u-l-l-y---[ email: ]---l-i-v-i-n-g d-e-a-d-i-c-a-t-e-d---[ http://www.conservatory.com/~fishbowl ]-----l-i-g-h-t Every program has (at least) two purposes: the one for which it was written and another for which it wasn't. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:44:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA04327 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:44:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA23210 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:38:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA23206 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:38:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veWgA-00038jC; Sun, 29 Dec 96 17:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Subject: Re: Mass mailing Date: 28 Dec 1996 20:46:47 GMT Message-ID: <5a40vn$jqs$1@news.sas.ab.ca> References: Hello, I agree that fooling someone who 'appears' to be doing a spam is clever, but for those of us who are A: Unitiated, and B: Prone to experimentation, what exactly DOES Bill's command do (I do not have access to my servers command line anyway, soooo...), just so that some slightly adventurous person does not actually DO this. Steve -- Ramblins courtesy of The Edge Magazine http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~thornes "Grandma got run over by a reindeer, walking home from our house Christmas Eve. You can say there's no such thing as Santa, but as me and Grandpa, we believe." -Will Millar- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:33:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA27577 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:33:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA24365 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:28:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA24361 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:28:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veXSa-00038XC; Sun, 29 Dec 96 18:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ice Man Subject: The PINE Manual Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 21:56:59 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone have any idea how to D/L the PINE help manual on-line so that it can be printed up through a word processor? 300 odd pages is a little much to be reading on-line and trying to sort through. Thanks. Steve Ramblins courtesy of The Edge Magazine http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~thornes "Grandma got run over by a reindeer, walking home from our house Christmas Eve. You can say there's no such thing as Santa, but as me and Grandpa, we believe." -Will Millar- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:59:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA26175 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:59:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA24852 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:43:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA24848 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:43:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veYbr-000393C; Sun, 29 Dec 96 19:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oakley@conti.oz.net (Reid Conti) Subject: From: header Date: 30 Dec 1996 04:14:39 GMT Message-ID: I've heard there's a way to change the From: header in pine. I use pine over a ppp. when I send mail out it says from oakley@conti.oz.net. I want to make it say conti@oz.net because that's my pop3 mailbox. Reply-to doesn't work for most mailing lists, so they send mail to me randomly and not in a timely fashion. Now I'm a volunteer for an organization that gives me an alias and I want to be able to use that too. I've heard you can compile pine to let you use a from: header but couldn't find anything in the source that pointed me to it. Could someone give me some help? Thanks! -- ---------------------------------------- Definitive Computing Systems Flat rate Seattle-area PPP for $20/month http://www.oz.net/dcs -+- dcs@oz.net Voice Mail: (206) 663-9890 ---------------------------------------- Finger conti@oz.net for PGP public key! ---------------------------------------- Try to understand The ones I love And their demands It's so unfair When they can't see That I'm the boy Who really needs Their love -- Smashing Pumpkins, "Frail and Bedazzled" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:05:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA09039 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA25894 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:01:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kani.wwa.com (kani.wwa.com [198.49.174.58]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA25890 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:01:18 -0800 Received: from rwilshe.wwa.com by kani.wwa.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0veZpe-007WzFC; Sun, 29 Dec 96 23:00 CST Message-Id: From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: , "Ice Man" Subject: Re: The PINE Manual Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:01:04 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, Whatever manual you are trying to read (is it from U of Washington?), you should be able to download it from an ftp site, or maybe load it into your web browser and print it (doubt it though). Assuming you can download it from a ftp site, save it with a .txt extension (assuming it's text) and open it in Word, or your favorite Word Processor. Then format it as necessary (it may be necessary to format it using a fixed pitch font, like courier), adjust the margins, etc., and you should be on your way. By the way, ftp.cac.washington.edu doesn't have any 300 page manuals. I'd be interested to hear where you found such a text. Could you let me know? Let me know if you have other questions. Good luck, %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Robert J. Wilshe Chicago, Illinois Mail : rwilshe@wwa.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ---------- > From: Ice Man > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: The PINE Manual > Date: Thursday, December 26, 1996 10:56 PM > > Anyone have any idea how to D/L the PINE help manual on-line so that it > can be printed up through a word processor? > 300 odd pages is a little much to be reading on-line and trying to sort > through. > > Thanks. > Steve > > > Ramblins courtesy of The Edge Magazine > http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~thornes > > "Grandma got run over by a reindeer, walking home from our house Christmas > Eve. > You can say there's no such thing as Santa, but as me and Grandpa, we > believe." > > -Will Millar- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:30:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA02063 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA26660 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:24:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA26656 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:24:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vea8B-00039fC; Sun, 29 Dec 96 21:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Porter Subject: Q: Using expanded-view-of-addressbooks ??? Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:37:18 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! I am using Pine 3.95 on a Sun Solaris 2.5.1 system. I want to set up a number of global addressbooks for our users. I would like users' personal addressbooks to be expanded automatically when they enter the addressbook screen, but not the global addressbooks. There is an option in the Pine setup called expanded-view-of-addressbooks, but as far as I can tell this can only be applied to all of the addressbooks in the addressbook screen, not individual ones. Does anyone know a way of only expanding certain addressbooks automatically, or am I asking for too much?? Many thanks, Tim --- Tim Porter | t.porter@fcrd.gov.uk Forestry Commission, | "Unless stated otherwise, all opinions Research Division, UK | expressed are my own, not those of my employer" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:10:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA26420 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA26629 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:03:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.mpsi.net (shell.mpsi.net [207.238.102.24]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA26625 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:02:59 -0800 From: alewis@shell.mpsi.net Received: from localhost (alewis@localhost) by shell.mpsi.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA01199; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:04:38 -0600 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:04:38 -0600 (CST) To: "Robert J. Wilshe" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The PINE Manual In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I filter messages in Pine so that they are filtered into different mailboxes upon receipt? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:43:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA05255 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA27952 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:39:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA27948 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:39:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vecFI-00038XC; Sun, 29 Dec 96 23:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: psalzman@landau.ucdavis.edu (From comp.mail.pine) Subject: [Q] Printing headers in reply Date: 30 Dec 1996 02:40:53 GMT Message-ID: <5a7a3l$d67$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> Hi all OK, I give up. There are two or three configuration options which toggle showing headers. I want to reply with *all* the headers, but only 3 are showing-- From: Date: and Subject:. What is the proper options/settings for ALL the headers to show up? Much thanks! Peter From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:55:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA30339 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA28658 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:48:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kani.wwa.com (kani.wwa.com [198.49.174.58]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA28654 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:48:52 -0800 Received: from rwilshe.wwa.com by kani.wwa.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0vecRm-007WsKC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 01:47 CST Message-Id: From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: Cc: Subject: Re: The PINE Manual Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 01:48:37 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello: I think you can use a utility called procmail, but I'm not sure how.... Pine gurus? Can you help out? Thanks! RJW ---------- > From: alewis@shell.mpsi.net > To: Robert J. Wilshe > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: The PINE Manual > Date: Sunday, December 29, 1996 10:04 PM > > > How can I filter messages in Pine so that they are filtered into different > mailboxes upon receipt? > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:05:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA10456 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:05:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA28765 for pine-info-out; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:59:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA28761 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:59:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vecaE-00038YC; Sun, 29 Dec 96 23:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruno Rosenthal Subject: Re: Pine PC as a ROL, possible ? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:54:10 -0800 Message-ID: <32C7F3B2.7509@amsat.org> References: <32C40D81.36A@amsat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Edward M Greshko wrote: > > Hello, > > Very sorry to say that pine does not yet support disconnected > mode operations. > > Regards, > OK Ed, That's very clear. Thanks you so much for this info. Best wishes for the New Year Regards Bruno From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 01:03:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA09729 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 01:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA28839 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:59:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA28835 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:59:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vedUa-00038XC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 00:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dave@pandora.ucdavis.edu (Dave Zavatson) Subject: Re: Using Pine 3.94 with POP3 Date: 30 Dec 1996 08:47:25 GMT Message-ID: <5a7vit$d8u$3@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: Daniel W. Erskine (sys0087@edj.co) wrote: : Greetings: : Being somewhat out-of-touch with this newsgroup, can someone tell me how to : configure Pine 3.94 for use with a POP3 server? I would appreciate!!! pine does not support POP, only IMAP. -Dave From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 01:40:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA08780 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 01:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA29779 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 01:34:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA29775 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 01:34:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vee3r-00038XC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 01:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rupesh Kapoor Subject: Info on c-client API Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:25:11 -0800 Message-ID: <32C60EC7.1F92@whowhere.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I need help in locating the documentation on c-client api. The search on the Web doesn't return anything useful. Thanks Rupesh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 02:33:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA11082 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 02:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA29768 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 02:29:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA29764 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 02:29:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veevZ-00038ZC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 02:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vashti@aol.com (Vashti) Subject: Retrieving names from global addressbook Date: 30 Dec 1996 02:13:33 GMT Message-ID: <19961230021200.VAA25992@ladder01.news.aol.com> It seems that pine accesses addresses from the global addressbook based on the nickname. In other words, non-unique names seems to prevent me from retrieving the address I want from the addressbook. Is there some other way i can set up my addressbook or do all of my nicknames have to be unique From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 02:45:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA11383 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 02:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA00559 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 02:39:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA00555 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 02:39:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vef54-00038ZC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 02:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aaronk@pconline.com (Aaron Kaase) Subject: US-ASCII vs. ISO-8895 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 09:34:53 GMT Message-ID: <32c83a15.4437967@news.pconline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When receiving mail from a friend using Microsoft Internet Mail (the applet bundled with Internet Explorer v3.01), I get the following message in Pine: [The following text is in the "ISO-8859-1" character set] [Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set] [Some characters may be displayed incorrectly] This is becoming somewhat of an eye sore. Since I'm a religious Pine user, I hate to use MS-Mail in order to not see that message. I installed MS-Mail and sent mail to myself to see what I can do to configure MS-Mail to send US-ASCII instead of ISO-8859, but I can't seem to change it (I think it's buried in the Windows 95 MIME settings in the Windows Registry in the form of cryptic hex). If anybody has any ideas about this, it'd be appreciated... But an easier solution might be to just get Pine to not display that message. Any ideas? I'm using Pine 3.91 on Linux. --- Aaron Kaase | email: aaronk@pconline.com P.O. Box 1888 | WWW: www.pconline.com/~aaronk St. Paul, MN 55101-0888 USA | Tel: +1 612.698.8270 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 06:35:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA00261 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 06:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA02429 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 06:30:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA02425 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 06:30:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veiee-00038aC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 06:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Steve McIntyre) Subject: Re: Pine Command Line Options Date: 30 Dec 1996 14:13:53 GMT Message-ID: <5a8in1$m66@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <32C7C6B7.1F2550CE@terhech.snafu.de> In article <32C7C6B7.1F2550CE@terhech.snafu.de>, Christoph Terhechte wrote: > >It would have to accept a given subject line - nothing about that in the >manual. > >It would have to accept a given file to be edited - nothing about that >either. > >Does anyone have an idea how to do this. It's easy in elm - just use the >-s (subject) and -i (file) switches. I normally use pine, though - is >there a way? Any hints appreciated. I don't think you can supply a subject, but you can pipe the article body into pine, e.g.: pine user@localhost < .article -- Steve McIntyre, CURS Secretary, Cambridge, UK. stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk My home page "Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, +------------------ "Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..." |Finger for PGP key From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:36:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA14080 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03746 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:30:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA03742 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:30:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vejao-00038aC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 07:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Bob Hamling" Subject: Pine for DG/UX 5.4R3.10 Date: 30 Dec 1996 15:06:13 GMT Message-ID: <01bbf663$1d028440$4bc00bce@bhamling> Does anyone have Pine already compiled for DG/UX version 5.4R3.10. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:41:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA27834 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:41:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03166 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:35:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA03162 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:35:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veji8-00038aC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 07:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul McCauley Subject: Not using sendmail Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:23:43 -0800 Message-ID: <32C7EC8F.79E5@gnn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello: I am using Pine 3.95 for SCO UNIX. I downloaded the binaries from UW and things are working fine on my SCO box. However, I want to install Pine on a box that does not have sendmail. The binaries I have are compiled to use sendmail. I have read the help and README on how to change the mailer used ( sendmail_path). I am trying to use submit ( only because I know it is on the other machine) but not having much luck. Is there an easier way? Does anyone have a conifiguration like this? Are there any other tools out there for what I am trying to do? I do not want to have two compiled versions if I do not have to. All help will be appreciated. Paul McCauley From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:41:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA30718 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:41:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03173 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:35:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA03168 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:35:46 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 30 Dec 96 16:35:40 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00465; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:16:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:16:34 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Dave Zavatson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine 3.94 with POP3 In-Reply-To: <5a7vit$d8u$3@mark.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 30 Dec 1996, Dave Zavatson wrote: >Daniel W. Erskine (sys0087@edj.co) wrote: >: Greetings: >: Being somewhat out-of-touch with this newsgroup, can someone tell me how to >: configure Pine 3.94 for use with a POP3 server? I would appreciate!!! > >pine does not support POP, only IMAP. True, but maybe the information that programs like "popclient" or "fetchpop" do might be of some help. You can write a small shell script to use them with pine. ================================snip here==================================== DESCRIPTION popclient is a Post Office Protocol compliant mail retrieval client which supports both POP2 (as specified in RFC 937) and POP3 (RFC 1725). Typically, popclient will be used to download mail in batch from the remote mailserver specified by host to a mail folder on the local disk. The retrieved mail will then be manipulated using a local mail reader, such as mail or elm. To facilitate the use of popclient in scripts, pipelines, etc, it returns an appropriate exit code upon termination. ============================================= DESCRIPTION The fetchpop program retrieves mail from a remote host using the POP3 mail transfer protocol as described in RFC1225 and RFC1081. By default, fetchpop retrieves new unread mail and appends it to your mailbox file using information specified in the file $HOME/.fetchhost. If the environment variable $MAIL is set, fetchpop appends to the file named. Otherwise it appends the mail to MAILSPOOLDIR/$USER. The retrieved messages will be appended to the mail folder file with an exclusive write lock, which means that the mailbox is pro- tected from other processes writing to it while a fetchpop session is modifying it. If there are more than one mail host that you want to retrieve mail from, the -f flag can be used. Check the FILES and OPTIONS sections for informa- tion. ================================snip here==================================== If anyone feels bothered by my mailing tex-spex, please let me know>;-> Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:41:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA14046 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03177 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:35:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA03170 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:35:50 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 30 Dec 96 16:35:43 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00395; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:07:31 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:07:31 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: "Robert J. Wilshe" cc: alewis@shell.mpsi.net, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The PINE Manual In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Robert J. Wilshe wrote: >> How can I filter messages in Pine so that they are filtered into >> different >> mailboxes upon receipt? >I think you can use a utility called procmail, but I'm not sure how.... >Pine gurus? Can you help out? I'm certainly not a pine guru, quite far from it, actually, but let me briefly quote from the SECRETS OF PINE 3.9 [snip] How to Use "Incoming Message" Folders It is often convenient to have incoming messages vectored into different folders, depending upon their subject (or any other criteria). This is sometimes called "Delivery Filtering". Pine has no knowledge of how mail delivery is done on any given computer, so it is not feasible for Pine to control delivery filtering. That means you must use whatever delivery filtering tools are available on your system to provide this function. Some of the programs used on Unix systems to accomplish this include: "procmail", "deliver", and "filter". Some sites also arrange for messages addressed in the form "user+folder@site" to be automatically vectored into the named folder. Once the delivery filtering arrangements have been made according to the local practice at your site --and that's the hard part-- Pine needs to be told about the additional folders you are using for incoming messages, besides your INBOX. This is done by selecting the "enable-incoming-folders" feature via the Setup/Config command. Then in the FOLDER LIST screen, you can use the "A Add" command to register the names (and optionally, nicknames) of the additional folders. In cases where these folders are on a remote mailserver other than the one holding your INBOX, you will need to know the name of that mail server as well. [snip] Any questions left? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:45:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA09884 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:45:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03873 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:40:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA03869 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:40:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vejlx-00038cC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 07:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kyle VanderBeek Subject: Re: Problem with pine headers Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 10:09:04 -0500 Message-ID: <32C7DB10.5015@calvin.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Coder wrote: > > Problem: My posts (using pine) to mailing lists are coming back to me > with "To: " instead of my own name. How can I > change this? I have been in & out of setup/config a zillion times without > success. This actually has little to do with Pine. When you send to a mailing list, you even specify the "To:" as the mailing list address, right? When the list software sends out the mail, it maintains this "To:" field, and handles the delivery to each of the list's members itself. You may even notice that the "From:" header isn't even you in some cases. The remailer might change that as well. Again, this behavior is not a function of pine. Kyle. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:46:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA13018 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:46:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03189 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:36:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA03179 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:35:59 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 30 Dec 96 16:35:46 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00309; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:47:28 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:47:28 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: "From comp.mail.pine" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] Printing headers in reply In-Reply-To: <5a7a3l$d67$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323328-962223920-851956582=:187" Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323328-962223920-851956582=:187 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On 30 Dec 1996, From comp.mail.pine wrote: >OK, I give up. Yeah, sure... >There are two or three configuration options which toggle showing >headers. So? >I want to reply with *all* the headers, but only 3 are >showing-- From: Date: and Subject:. >What is the proper options/settings for ALL the headers to show up? The proper setting is called RTFM, a.k.a RIE or RIF. Here is how to adjust your system properly to this setting: Use a browser to connect to the WWW search-engine of your choice, look for "pine", "FAQ" and "ignorant". Not to mention the fact that this pops up, when you access Pine' help: Pine files and documentation are available via FTP or WWW: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine you'll find the following: SECRETS OF PINE 3.9 How to use Pine for Reading and Posting Internet News [snip] * The Composer's ^R command means two different things, depending on where your cursor is positioned. If you are editing the header of a message, ^R will cause additional headers to be displayed, e.g. "BCC" for Blind Carbon Copies. If you are editing the body of the message, ^R means "Read File". The file you specify will be included in the message text at the position of the cursor. * You can now control which headers show up by default in the composer. This is done by using the Setup/Config screen to set the "default-composer-hdrs" option. You would specify a list of headers you wish to be visible immediately when you enter the Composer. Other headers are still accessible via the "^R Rich Header" command. * The "H HdrMode" command now conditions not just the MESSAGE TEXT viewer, but also the Print, Pipe, Export, Reply, and Forward commands. This command, if enabled, toggles between displaying or including the basic set of message headers Pine normally shows and all the headers in the message, including the "Received-from: " diagnostic headers. The "H" command is a toggle; be careful to turn it off after use so that you don't inadvertently send unwanted headers when you forward a message. [snip] Apart from this, pressing S(etup), C(onfig), W(here is), "header" will give you about the same information. Can't be that difficult, can it? Just for the sake of it, I've attached the entire document to this message. Sorry if anyone feels molested by this. But ever being the curious one, could you, dear "From comp.mail.pine" , please tell me how one could NOT find this information? Any non-medical advice will be highly appreciated. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. 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Dec 1996 08:24:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA03764 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:20:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA03757 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 08:19:58 -0800 Received: from jasoneng (pm2-adr32.interl.net [205.244.161.32]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA18322; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 10:16:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199612301616.KAA18322@Stormbringer.InterL.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jason Englander" To: dave@pandora.ucdavis.edu (Dave Zavatson) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 10:20:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Using Pine 3.94 with POP3 CC: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5a7vit$d8u$3@mark.ucdavis.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) > : Being somewhat out-of-touch with this newsgroup, can someone tell me how to > : configure Pine 3.94 for use with a POP3 server? I would appreciate!!! > > pine does not support POP, only IMAP. Pine for UNIX does support POP3. My mail server is mailhost.interl.net so I set the following as an incoming folder: "Remote Inbox" {mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX ...but I've been using fetchmail (and popclient before that) for quite a while so don't quote me on the exact syntax. I'm not sure what versions have 'support' for it, but I used it in version 3.95 Jason =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- E-mail: jasoneng@interl.net, @isonline.com, @usa.net Home: http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux: http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key: homepage + pgpkey.asc =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:27:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA15187 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA04757 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:23:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu11.psi.com (uu11.psi.com [38.8.24.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA04750 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:23:00 -0800 Received: by uu11.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA11390 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 96 12:14:46 -0500 Received: from t.sage by uu1611.prelude.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA81286; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:16:38 -0600 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:16:38 -0600 Message-Id: <9612301716.AA81286@uu1611.prelude.com> X-Sender: t.sage@prelude.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 2 (High) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: t.sage@prelude.com (Tom Sage) Subject: Pine 3.95 hangs on AIX 4.1 In the screen Compose Message after I enter a message and press X, the screen hangs for 2+ minutes. I am running AIX 4.1, and I have tried Pine 3.95 for AIX 4.1 and Pine 3.95 for AIX 3.2. Both programs act the same. Thanks for any ideas, Tom Sage From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:56:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA12604 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA07078 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:47:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA07071 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:47:55 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 30 Dec 96 20:47:50 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00236 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:46:02 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:46:02 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: monthly FAQ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Because of the many easily answered questions in the last few days, was wondering if it might make sense to mail the FAQ on a monthly basis. Just my 2 cents. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:01:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA17942 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA08246 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 12:55:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA08242 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 12:55:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veoic-00038eC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 12:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Re: compose hangs - AIX and Mac NCSA Telnet Date: 30 Dec 1996 20:45:39 GMT Message-ID: <5a99lj$fmu@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: Mark Westergaard writes: >I've seen several questions/responses about Pine 3.95 compose "hanging" >(or "locking") under AIX. I applied the suggested changes to the pico >sources and have solved all problems but one. The only persistent >"hanging" problem seems to be with NCSA Telnet on Macs. Does this sound >familiar to anyone else? no, when exactly does Pine hang? Or is it just your terminal? Maybe it helps undefining (in NCSA Telnet's settings on your Mac) ^c, ^s and ^q. Did you already try that? >The particulars: Pine 3.95 on AIX 4.1.4 and AIX 4.2 > NCSA Telnet 2.7 on Macintosh System 7 Did you switch your settings to ISO-8859-1 in NCSA Telnet? I do so (in fact right now) and it works great, though I must admit I'm not using AIX. -- Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui) Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:02:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA13304 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA08183 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 12:50:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from xmission.xmission.com (xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA08179 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 12:50:46 -0800 Received: from localhost (slick_rk@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.4/8.7.5) with SMTP id NAA18216; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:50:44 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:50:44 -0700 (MST) From: Rick To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: Casey Shultz Subject: posting problem In-Reply-To: <59v2et$l30@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A friend of mine is having a curious problem. He has recently been upgraded to pine 3.95 in VMS and it seems to work fine, except when trying to post to a newsgroup. It will compose the msg and all just fine, but when we attempt to post it it gives the error message: "441 article is empty" Could anyone give us a clue as to what the problem is. Do we need to set some value somewhere or what?? Any help would be appreciated. Amiga/ / slick_rk@xmission.com 500 / / Rick Kelley \ \/ / 2736 Grant Ave. \/\/ Ogden, UT 84401 -------------------------------------------- Member of "Team AMIGA" -------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:19:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA18531 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA09701 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:13:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from landau.ucdavis.edu (landau.ucdavis.edu [128.120.9.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA09697 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:13:42 -0800 Received: from localhost by landau.ucdavis.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13255; Mon, 30 Dec 96 14:01:50 PST Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:01:50 -0800 (PST) From: Peter To: "Robin S. Socha" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] Printing headers in reply In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Robin S. Socha wrote: dear robyn, > Any non-medical advice will be highly appreciated. yes, i will give you advice. while it is unlikely that you'll ask me a question directly, i frequest newsgroups of things that i know more about than pine (which, imho is definitely NOT my first choice of mailer, but i'm stuck with it for now), and perhaps you'll have a question on things that i know about, like physics, math, statistics, c programming, shell scripting, expect scripting, unix programming, motorcycle mechanics, Tex, LaTeX or other things. your shitty reply alienated me. that in itself deserves a sarcastic 'oooh, now i've blown it!', but i put it to you that if you alienate enough people, it is conceivable that nobody will reply to your questions. it's happened before, and i can rattle off a bunch of people that won't get replies on comp.lang.c, comp.text.tex, comp.unix.questions and other good newsgroups. we all specialize in things, and the thing is that sometimes we can't learn about EVERYTHING. so the usenet provides a good resource for asking questions about things we don't know much about, a kind of sharing of each other's resources. for your sake, i suggest that you treat people with a kind of dignity that you would want them to have with you if you ask a question. aside from getting a better and wider assortment of replies, it's also common courtesy. but perhaps you don't care about common decency. in any event, do me a favor and don't reply to any of my questions in the future. i got enough helpful replies and would rather not read what you have to say. peter From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:06:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA19184 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:06:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA11114 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:01:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA11106 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:01:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veqfr-00038gC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 14:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dave@pandora.ucdavis.edu (Dave Zavatson) Subject: Re: Automatic Bcc?? Date: 30 Dec 1996 22:55:32 GMT Message-ID: <5a9h94$3tr$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <59v2et$l30@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Didier C. Charles (dn544@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote: : : Is there a way of setting up PINE so that it sends a Blind carbon copy to : another address automatically? : : Thank you : : Didier : Yes, customized-hdrs=BCc: address in your .pinerc will work. It will not show up in the headers on your screen unless you do a ^r, but it will add it to the mail. -Dave -- ''' \|/ (o o) (O O) /------------------oOO--(_)--OOo---------o00--(_)--00o----------------------\ | Dave Zavatson | Information Systems Management | |dhzavatson@ucdavis.edu | UC Davis / Information Technology | \---------------------------------------------------------------------------/ The internet is a prime example of a product that was released to the consumer before it was ready. -Paul Vixie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:21:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA08821 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:21:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA10608 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:16:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA10604 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:16:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veqt2-00038fC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 15:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbrown@btc.btechnet.com (Paul B. Brown) Subject: Re: UW PINE from home/ Eudora? Date: 27 Dec 1996 22:34:50 GMT Message-ID: <5a1iua$jt8@news.dgsys.com> References: In-Reply-To: Hi, You forgot to mention the platform and OS you are using. From what I understand, Eudora is a Windoze application and Pine is a Unix app. I don't remeber eith or both of them having versions on both Windoze and Unix. If you are using Windoze, definitely use a graphical mail user agent like Eudora Pro 3.0. Talk with the E-mail administrator at your university to see if they have one you can get through the them. They probably have standard package which they will support (a _big_ plus!). Make sure they help you set up your mail user agent as a POP3 client. Anyway, if you are using Unix without X then you have two good choices for a non-graphical mail user agent. Pine and Elm. Each have their proponents and their detractors. Personally, I prefer Pine! (no flames please! To each his own.) If you are using Unix with X you will have to do some research. I don't know of any good graphical mail users agents for Unix that support POP3. Maybe that is another question for your university's e-mail admin. Good luck! Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------- In article , "J. Melusky" writes: >Hi All, I am at the University of Washington using PINE from home. I heard >from someone that I maybe can use Eudora Pro to UW instead of PINE or with >PINE or something similar? Eudora would be nicer than Pine from home, (no >offense) Thanks for the info, ya'll, J > >~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ > Our page. > _ _ __ __ Wagner Codes: > _| \_) |_ (_/ _| a+--f--e--d-b++g+w+v > (_ _ _) _ (_ Puzzle > |_( )_|__( >__| By Jon and Randy R. > |_ _| |_ http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7889 > _) |_ _( mailto:whatfer@u.washington.edu > /_ _|_ ___ | Windows 95, Micron 133mhz, Seattle USA > (_< (_) ^ ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- /\_/\ Paul B. Brown ((( ( -.- ) pbrown@btc.btechnet.com || > " < Cape Dory 25D, Paul's Option (( (] | [) "Sailing is a state of mind . . . ." ((( | ) (_ | _) "Thirty minutes of begging is NOT considered foreplay." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:11:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA22556 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:11:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA12119 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:04:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA12115 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:03:58 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA26974 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:03:41 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:03:40 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: When All Else Fails Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Are there any other places one can go for help when nobody on the Pine-Info list can help, and the Pine bug-report people don't respond? thanks. Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:29:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA19435 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA11649 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:26:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.acmenet.net (shell.acmenet.net [206.152.182.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA11645 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:26:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (toad@localhost) by shell.acmenet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA17350; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:45:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:45:46 -0500 (EST) From: Herb Townsend Reply-To: Herb Townsend To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: When All Else Fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Bruce Toews wrote: :)---->Are there any other places one can go for help when nobody on the :)---->Pine-Info list can help, and the Pine bug-report people don't respond? :)---->thanks. :)----> :)---->Bruce :)----> :)----> There's always your local system admin, although they might not really be able to help. Then there's tons of docs available if you want to sift through them. If you have web access, try http://www.washington.edu/pine/ or if you want to ftp... ftp.cac.washington.edu good luck From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:44:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA06903 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA11885 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:39:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA11879 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:39:17 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 31 Dec 96 01:39:12 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA02674; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 01:37:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 01:37:14 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: When All Else Fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Bruce Toews wrote: >Are there any other places one can go for help when nobody on the >Pine-Info list can help, and the Pine bug-report people don't respond? >thanks. Maybe if you gave a little more detailled description of the problem, someone might be able to help you;-) Beside that, there are really good manuals available from pine's ftp-server and on the net, too. Cf, e.g.: http://worf.ubalt.edu/~abento/pinemail/pcpinefaq.html or http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/pine-faq/. Dunno if that's any help, though. Cheers and happy holidays. Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" .... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:54:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA20653 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA12081 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:50:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA12077 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:50:55 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA29930; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:50:21 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:50:20 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: "Robin S. Socha" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: When All Else Fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Bruce Toews wrote: > > >Are there any other places one can go for help when nobody on the > >Pine-Info list can help, and the Pine bug-report people don't respond? > >thanks. > > Maybe if you gave a little more detailled description of the problem, someone > might be able to help you;-) > > Beside that, there are really good manuals available from pine's ftp-server > and on the net, too. Cf, e.g.: > > http://worf.ubalt.edu/~abento/pinemail/pcpinefaq.html or > http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/pine-faq/. > > Dunno if that's any help, though. > Okay, I'll try one more time to be as detailed as is humanly possible. Our System Administrator can't help me either, and the answer is not available in any of the documentation, which I checked before asking my question in the first place. I am using my Internet provider's shell service. It runs on Red Hat Linux version 4, with a kernal of 2.1.18. The version of Unix pine is 3.95. The problem is that, intermitently, and usually, Pine puts a control-A into the Date: field instead of the CST, which should be in parentheses to denote my time zone. If you look at the top of this message, you will probably see this. The TZ environment variable is correctly set, the date command in Unix returns the correct date, sendmail is, to my knowledge, correctly configured. There's nothing more I can offer about this problem, but it's driving me and other who are affected by my postings crazy. If anyone can either help or direct me to someone who can, I'd be most grateful. Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:35:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA20836 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:35:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA12732 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:31:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA12722 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:31:05 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 31 Dec 96 02:30:59 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA03149 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 02:29:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 02:29:13 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: When All Else Fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Bruce Toews wrote: [snip] >I am using my Internet provider's shell service. It runs on Red Hat Linux >version 4, with a kernal of 2.1.18. The version of Unix pine is 3.95. >The problem is that, intermitently, and usually, Pine puts a control-A >into the Date: field instead of the CST, which should be in parentheses to >denote my time zone. I know that sounds slightly ridiculous, but have you tried using smail instead of sendmail? I was told that the problem also uccured at our university. They've successfully switched to smail. Hope that's any help. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:56:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA19484 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:56:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA14534 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:41:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA14530 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:41:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veu7r-00038eC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 18:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Changing user id in Pine Date: 30 Dec 1996 21:11:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: Timo Newton-Syms writes: >Is is possible to change the user id in Pine? Currently all my mail says >it comes from tns96@vsonic.fi, as that is my login, but how can I change >it to tns@vsonic.fi? I can change the domain, but that's of no use to me. If you're using PC Pine for Windows just set your user-id to `tns' in your PINERC. Set your inbox-path, incoming-folders, etc. to use `{mail.vsonic.fi/user=tns96}'. If you're using Unix pine you need to compile it so that ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM is not commented out and then set a customized From header. I wish the default Pine compilation allowed changing the From header so that those of us who have a zillion ISPs could easily use the same From header from all of them. -Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:22:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA20597 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:22:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA13988 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:16:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA13984 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:16:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veuet-00038eC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 19:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christoph Terhechte Subject: Pine Command Line Options Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:42:15 +0100 Message-ID: <32C7C6B7.1F2550CE@terhech.snafu.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to call pine from tin under Linux. To acquire this, pine would have to accept three command line options: It would have to accept a receiver's address - no problem, it says so in the manual. It would have to accept a given subject line - nothing about that in the manual. It would have to accept a given file to be edited - nothing about that either. Does anyone have an idea how to do this. It's easy in elm - just use the -s (subject) and -i (file) switches. I normally use pine, though - is there a way? Any hints appreciated. -- Christoph Terhechte "Toto? - I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:28:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA15192 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA15010 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:21:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA15006 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:21:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veukS-00038eC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 19:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbrown@btc.btechnet.com (Paul B. Brown) Subject: Re: Newbie,Linux-Sendmail-Help. Date: 27 Dec 1996 22:21:02 GMT Message-ID: <5a1i4e$jt8@news.dgsys.com> References: <32BA6F0A.6775@ans.com.au> In-Reply-To: <32BA6F0A.6775@ans.com.au> Hi! Is there a reason you want to use POP services _and_ sendmail? I must assume that you are not online 24x7 and need a place to store your mail while you are not online. A POP3 client is used to get mail from a POP3 server (daemon) on the mail server where you messages are stored. Presumably on your ISP's E-mail server. Sendmail simply allows you to keep your mail account on your local machine by having the ISP's E-mail server route mail directly to your sendmail daemon. It seems you are trying to mold the two together . . . Why?? Why would you want to mix the two?? Perhaps you should go strictly POP3 and take sendmail out of your rc.M file. That will make sure that it does not come up when rebooting your system. On the other hand, you may want to get rid of the POP client and go strictly sendmail. This assumes that you are online 24x7 (like me) and can accept mail at any time. If not, talk with you ISP to get alternatives. The following is my sendmail config. Modify the Cw line for your own fully qualified domain name and or your own domain (like I have). Also, make sure your ISP have these things configures in their sendmail.cf and in their DNS: # # Copyright (c) 1983, 1995 Eric P. Allman # Copyright (c) 1988, 1993 # The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. # # Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without # modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions # are met: # 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright # notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. # 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright # notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the # documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. # 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software # must display the following acknowledgement: # This product includes software developed by the University of # California, Berkeley and its contributors. # 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors # may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software # without specific prior written permission. # # THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND # ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE # IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE # ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE # FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL # DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS # OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) # HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT # LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY # OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF # SUCH DAMAGE. # ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### ##### SENDMAIL CONFIGURATION FILE ##### ##### built by root@darkstar on Sat May 11 18:33:51 CDT 1996 ##### in /tmp/sendmail-8.7.5/cf/cf ##### using ../ as configuration include directory ##### ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### @(#)cfhead.m4 8.3 (Berkeley) 9/15/95 ##### ##### @(#)cf.m4 8.24 (Berkeley) 8/16/95 ##### ##### linux for smtp-only setup ##### ##### @(#)linux.m4 8.2 (Berkeley) 8/21/93 ##### ##### @(#)nouucp.m4 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/7/93 ##### ##### @(#)always_add_domain.m4 8.1 (Berkeley) 6/7/93 ##### ##### @(#)proto.m4 8.100 (Berkeley) 12/3/95 ##### # level 6 config file format V6/Berkeley ################## # local info # ################## #Cwlocalhost Cw btechnet.com btc.btechnet.com btc.dgsys.com # my official domain name # ... define this only if sendmail cannot automatically determine your domain #Dj$w.Foo.COM CP. # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DS # place to which unknown users should be forwarded #Kuser user -m -a<> #DLname_of_luser_relay # operators that cannot be in local usernames (i.e., network indicators) CO @ % # a class with just dot (for identifying canonical names) C.. # Mailer table (overriding domains) #Kmailertable dbm /etc/mailertable # Domain table (adding domains) #Kdomaintable dbm /etc/domaintable # who I send unqualified names to (null means deliver locally) DR # who gets all local email traffic ($R has precedence for unqualified names) DH # class L: names that should be delivered locally, even if we have a relay # class E: names that should be exposed as from this host, even if we masquerade # class M: domains that should be converted to $M #CL root CE root # dequoting map Kdequote dequote # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) (see also $=M) DM # my name for error messages DnMAILER-DAEMON # Configuration version number DZ8.7.3 ############### # Options # ############### # strip message body to 7 bits on input? O SevenBitInput=False # 8-bit data handling O EightBitMode=pass8 # wait for alias file rebuild (default units: minutes) O AliasWait=10 # location of alias file O AliasFile=/etc/aliases # minimum number of free blocks on filesystem O MinFreeBlocks=100 # maximum message size #O MaxMessageSize=1000000 # substitution for space (blank) characters O BlankSub=. # avoid connecting to "expensive" mailers on initial submission? O HoldExpensive=False # checkpoint queue runs after every N successful deliveries #O CheckpointInterval=10 # default delivery mode O DeliveryMode=background # automatically rebuild the alias database? #O AutoRebuildAliases # error message header/file #O ErrorHeader=/etc/sendmail.oE # error mode #O ErrorMode=print # save Unix-style "From_" lines at top of header? #O SaveFromLine # temporary file mode O TempFileMode=0600 # match recipients against GECOS field? #O MatchGECOS # maximum hop count #O MaxHopCount=17 # location of help file O HelpFile=/usr/lib/sendmail.hf # ignore dots as terminators in incoming messages? #O IgnoreDots # name resolver options #O ResolverOptions=+AAONLY # deliver MIME-encapsulated error messages? O SendMimeErrors=True # Forward file search path O ForwardPath=$z/.forward.$w:$z/.forward # open connection cache size O ConnectionCacheSize=2 # open connection cache timeout O ConnectionCacheTimeout=5m # use Errors-To: header? O UseErrorsTo=False # log level O LogLevel=9 # send to me too, even in an alias expansion? #O MeToo # verify RHS in newaliases? O CheckAliases=False # default messages to old style headers if no special punctuation? O OldStyleHeaders=True # SMTP daemon options #O DaemonPortOptions=Port=esmtp # privacy flags O PrivacyOptions=authwarnings # who (if anyone) should get extra copies of error messages #O PostMasterCopy=Postmaster # slope of queue-only function #O QueueFactor=600000 # queue directory O QueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue # timeouts (many of these) #O Timeout.initial=5m #O Timeout.helo=5m #O Timeout.mail=10m #O Timeout.rcpt=1h #O Timeout.datainit=5m #O Timeout.datablock=1h #O Timeout.datafinal=1h #O Timeout.rset=5m #O Timeout.quit=2m #O Timeout.misc=2m #O Timeout.command=1h #O Timeout.ident=30s #O Timeout.fileopen=60s O Timeout.queuereturn=5d #O Timeout.queuereturn.normal=5d #O Timeout.queuereturn.urgent=2d #O Timeout.queuereturn.non-urgent=7d O Timeout.queuewarn=4h #O Timeout.queuewarn.normal=4h #O Timeout.queuewarn.urgent=1h #O Timeout.queuewarn.non-urgent=12h # should we not prune routes in route-addr syntax addresses? #O DontPruneRoutes # queue up everything before forking? O SuperSafe=True # status file O StatusFile=/etc/sendmail.st # time zone handling: # if undefined, use system default # if defined but null, use TZ envariable passed in # if defined and non-null, use that info #O TimeZoneSpec= # default UID (can be username or userid:groupid) O DefaultUser=1:1 # list of locations of user database file (null means no lookup) #O UserDatabaseSpec=/etc/userdb # fallback MX host #O FallbackMXhost=fall.back.host.net # if we are the best MX host for a site, try it directly instead of config err #O TryNullMXList # load average at which we just queue messages #O QueueLA=8 # load average at which we refuse connections #O RefuseLA=12 # work recipient factor #O RecipientFactor=30000 # deliver each queued job in a separate process? #O ForkEachJob # work class factor #O ClassFactor=1800 # work time factor #O RetryFactor=90000 # shall we sort the queue by hostname first? #O QueueSortOrder=priority # minimum time in queue before retry #O MinQueueAge=30m # default character set #O DefaultCharSet=iso-8859-1 # service switch file (ignored on Solaris, Ultrix, OSF/1, others) #O ServiceSwitchFile=/etc/service.switch # hosts file (normally /etc/hosts) #O HostsFile=/etc/hosts # dialup line delay on connection failure #O DialDelay=10s # action to take if there are no recipients in the message #O NoRecipientAction=add-to-undisclosed # chrooted environment for writing to files #O SafeFileEnvironment=/arch # are colons OK in addresses? #O ColonOkInAddr # how many jobs can you process in the queue? #O MaxQueueRunSize=10000 # shall I avoid expanding CNAMEs (violates protocols)? #O DontExpandCnames # SMTP initial login message (old $e macro) O SmtpGreetingMessage=$j Sendmail $v/$Z; $b # UNIX initial From header format (old $l macro) O UnixFromLine=From $g $d # delimiter (operator) characters (old $o macro) O OperatorChars=.:%@!^/[]+ # shall I avoid calling initgroups(3) because of high NIS costs? #O DontInitGroups ########################### # Message precedences # ########################### Pfirst-class=0 Pspecial-delivery=100 Plist=-30 Pbulk=-60 Pjunk=-100 ##################### # Trusted users # ##################### # this is equivalent to setting class "t" #Ft/etc/sendmail.ct Troot majordomo majordom Tdaemon Tuucp ######################### # Format of headers # ######################### H?P?Return-Path: $g HReceived: $?sfrom $s $.$?_($?s$|from $.$_) $.by $j ($v/$Z)$?r with $r$. id $i$?u for $u$.; $b H?D?Resent-Date: $a H?D?Date: $a H?F?Resent-From: $?x$x <$g>$|$g$. H?F?From: $?x$x <$g>$|$g$. H?x?Full-Name: $x HSubject: # HPosted-Date: $a # H?l?Received-Date: $b H?M?Resent-Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> H?M?Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> # ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### ##### REWRITING RULES ##### ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ########################################### ### Rulset 3 -- Name Canonicalization ### ########################################### S3 # handle null input (translate to <@> special case) R$@ $@ <@> # strip group: syntax (not inside angle brackets!) and trailing semicolon R$* $: $1 <@> mark addresses R$* < $* > $* <@> $: $1 < $2 > $3 unmark R$* :: $* <@> $: $1 :: $2 unmark node::addr R:include: $* <@> $: :include: $1 unmark :include:... R$* : $* <@> $: $2 strip colon if marked R$* <@> $: $1 unmark R$* ; $: $1 strip trailing semi # null input now results from list:; syntax R$@ $@ :; <@> # strip angle brackets -- note RFC733 heuristic to get innermost item R$* $: < $1 > housekeeping <> R$+ < $* > < $2 > strip excess on left R< $* > $+ < $1 > strip excess on right R<> $@ < @ > MAIL FROM:<> case R< $+ > $: $1 remove housekeeping <> # make sure <@a,@b,@c:user@d> syntax is easy to parse -- undone later R@ $+ , $+ @ $1 : $2 change all "," to ":" # localize and dispose of route-based addresses R@ $+ : $+ $@ $>96 < @$1 > : $2 handle # find focus for list syntax R $+ : $* ; @ $+ $@ $>96 $1 : $2 ; < @ $3 > list syntax R $+ : $* ; $@ $1 : $2; list syntax # find focus for @ syntax addresses R$+ @ $+ $: $1 < @ $2 > focus on domain R$+ < $+ @ $+ > $1 $2 < @ $3 > move gaze right R$+ < @ $+ > $@ $>96 $1 < @ $2 > already canonical # do some sanity checking R$* < @ $* : $* > $* $1 < @ $2 $3 > $4 nix colons in addrs # if we have % signs, take the rightmost one R$* % $* $1 @ $2 First make them all @s. R$* @ $* @ $* $1 % $2 @ $3 Undo all but the last. R$* @ $* $@ $>96 $1 < @ $2 > Insert < > and finish # else we must be a local name R$* $@ $>96 $1 ################################################ ### Ruleset 96 -- bottom half of ruleset 3 ### ################################################ S96 # handle special cases for local names R$* < @ localhost > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 no domain at all R$* < @ localhost . $m > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 local domain R$* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $: $1 < @@ [ $2 ] > $3 mark [a.b.c.d] R$* < @@ $=w > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $3 self-literal R$* < @@ $+ > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 canon IP addr # look up domains in the domain table #R$* < @ $+ > $* $: $1 < @ $(domaintable $2 $) > $3 # pass to name server to make hostname canonical R$* < @ $* $~P > $* $: $1 < @ $[ $2 $3 $] > $4 # local host aliases and pseudo-domains are always canonical R$* < @ $=w > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 R$* < @ $* $=P > $* $: $1 < @ $2 $3 . > $4 R$* < @ $* . . > $* $1 < @ $2 . > $3 # if this is the local hostname, make sure we treat is as canonical R$* < @ $j > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 ################################################## ### Ruleset 4 -- Final Output Post-rewriting ### ################################################## S4 R$* <@> $@ handle <> and list:; # strip trailing dot off possibly canonical name R$* < @ $+ . > $* $1 < @ $2 > $3 # eliminate internal code -- should never get this far! R$* < @ *LOCAL* > $* $1 < @ $j > $2 # externalize local domain info R$* < $+ > $* $1 $2 $3 defocus R@ $+ : @ $+ : $+ @ $1 , @ $2 : $3 canonical R@ $* $@ @ $1 ... and exit # delete duplicate local names R$+ % $=w @ $=w $1 @ $j u%host@host => u@host ############################################################## ### Ruleset 97 -- recanonicalize and call ruleset zero ### ### (used for recursive calls) ### ############################################################## S97 R$* $: $>3 $1 R$* $@ $>0 $1 ###################################### ### Ruleset 0 -- Parse Address ### ###################################### S0 R<@> $#local $: <@> special case error msgs R$* : $* ; <@> $#error $@ 5.1.3 $: "list:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses" R<@ $+> $#error $@ 5.1.1 $: "user address required" R$* <$* : $* > $* $#error $@ 5.1.1 $: "colon illegal in host name part" R$* < @ . > $* $#error $@ 5.1.2 $: "invalid host name" # handle numeric address spec R$* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $: $>98 $1 < @ [ $2 ] > $3 numeric internet spec R$* < @ [ $+ ] > $* $#smtp $@ [$2] $: $1 < @ [$2] > $3 still numeric: send # now delete the local info -- note $=O to find characters that cause forwarding R$* < @ > $* $@ $>97 $1 user@ => user R< @ $=w . > : $* $@ $>97 $2 @here:... -> ... R$- < @ $=w . > $: $(dequote $1 $) < @ $2 . > dequote "foo"@here R$* $=O $* < @ $=w . > $@ $>97 $1 $2 $3 ...@here -> ... # handle local hacks R$* $: $>98 $1 # short circuit local delivery so forwarded email works R$=L < @ $=w . > $#local $: @ $1 special local names R$+ < @ $=w . > $#local $: $1 regular local name # not local -- try mailer table lookup #R$* <@ $+ > $* $: < $2 > $1 < @ $2 > $3 extract host name #R< $+ . > $* $: < $1 > $2 strip trailing dot #R< $+ > $* $: < $(mailertable $1 $) > $2 lookup #R< error : $- $+ > $* $#error $@ $1 $: $2 check -- error? #R< $- : $+ > $* $# $1 $@ $2 $: $3 check -- resolved? #R< $+ > $* $: $>90 <$1> $2 try domain # resolve fake top level domains by forwarding to other hosts # pass names that still have a host to a smarthost (if defined) R$* < @ $* > $* $: $>95 < $S > $1 < @ $2 > $3 glue on smarthost name # deal with other remote names R$* < @$* > $* $#smtp $@ $2 $: $1 < @ $2 > $3 user@host.domain # if this is quoted, strip the quotes and try again R$+ $: $(dequote $1 $) strip quotes R$+ $=O $+ $@ $>97 $1 $2 $3 try again # handle locally delivered names R$=L $#local $: @ $1 special local names R$+ $#local $: $1 regular local names ########################################################################### ### Ruleset 5 -- special rewriting after aliases have been expanded ### ########################################################################### S5 # deal with plussed users so aliases work nicely R$+ + * $#local $@ $&h $: $1 R$+ + $* $#local $@ $2 $: $1 + * # prepend an empty "forward host" on the front R$+ $: <> $1 # send unrecognized local users to a relay host #R< > $+ + $* $: < $L . > $( user $1 $) + $2 #R< > $+ $: < $L . > $( user $1 $) look up user #R< $* > $+ <> $* $: < > $2 $3 found; strip $L #R< $* . > $+ $: < $1 > $2 strip extra dot # handle plussed local names R< > $+ + $* $#local $@ $2 $: $1 # see if we have a relay or a hub R< > $+ $: < $H > $1 try hub R< > $+ $: < $R > $1 try relay R< > $+ $@ $1 nope, give up R< $- : $+ > $+ $: $>95 < $1 : $2 > $3 < @ $2 > R< $+ > $+ $@ $>95 < $1 > $2 < @ $1 > ################################################################### ### Ruleset 90 -- try domain part of mailertable entry ### ################################################################### #S90 #R$* <$- . $+ > $* $: $1$2 < $(mailertable .$3 $@ $1$2 $@ $2 $) > $4 #R$* <$- : $+ > $* $# $2 $@ $3 $: $4 check -- resolved? #R$* < . $+ > $* $@ $>90 $1 . <$2> $3 no -- strip & try again #R$* < $* > $* $: < $(mailertable . $@ $1$2 $) > $3 try "." #R<$- : $+ > $* $# $1 $@ $2 $: $3 "." found? #R< $* > $* $@ $2 no mailertable match ################################################################### ### Ruleset 95 -- canonify mailer:host syntax to triple ### ################################################################### S95 R< > $* $@ $1 strip off null relay R< $- : $+ > $* $# $1 $@ $2 $: $3 try qualified mailer R< $=w > $* $@ $2 delete local host R< $+ > $* $#relay $@ $1 $: $2 use unqualified mailer ################################################################### ### Ruleset 93 -- convert header names to masqueraded form ### ################################################################### S93 R$=E < @ *LOCAL* > $@ $1 < @ $j . > leave exposed R$=E < @ $=M . > $@ $1 < @ $2 . > R$=E < @ $=w . > $@ $1 < @ $2 . > R$* < @ $=M . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . @ $M > $3 convert masqueraded doms R$* < @ $=w . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . @ $M > $3 R$* < @ *LOCAL* > $* $: $1 < @ $j . @ $M > $2 R$* < @ $+ @ > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 $M is null R$* < @ $+ @ $+ > $* $@ $1 < @ $3 . > $4 $M is not null ################################################################### ### Ruleset 94 -- convert envelope names to masqueraded form ### ################################################################### S94 #R$+ $@ $>93 $1 R$* < @ *LOCAL* > $* $: $1 < @ $j . > $2 ################################################################### ### Ruleset 98 -- local part of ruleset zero (can be null) ### ################################################################### S98 # ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ##### ##### MAILER DEFINITIONS ##### ###################################################################### ###################################################################### ################################################## ### Local and Program Mailer specification ### ################################################## ##### @(#)local.m4 8.21 (Berkeley) 11/6/95 ##### Mlocal, P=/usr/bin/procmail, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@ShP, S=10/30, R=20/40, T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix, A=procmail -a $h -d $u Mprog, P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMoeu, S=10/30, R=20/40, D=$z:/, T=X-Unix, A=sh -c $u # # Envelope sender rewriting # S10 R<@> $n errors to mailer-daemon R$+ $: $>50 $1 add local domain if needed R$* $: $>94 $1 do masquerading # # Envelope recipient rewriting # S20 R$+ < @ $* > $: $1 strip host part # # Header sender rewriting # S30 R<@> $n errors to mailer-daemon R$+ $: $>50 $1 add local domain if needed R$* $: $>93 $1 do masquerading # # Header recipient rewriting # S40 R$+ $: $>50 $1 add local domain if needed #R$* $: $>93 $1 do all-masquerading # # Common code to add local domain name (only if always-add-domain) # S50 R$* < @ $* > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 already fully qualified R$+ $@ $1 < @ *LOCAL* > add local qualification ##################################### ### SMTP Mailer specification ### ##################################### ##### @(#)smtp.m4 8.32 (Berkeley) 11/20/95 ##### Msmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuX, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h Mesmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuXa, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h Msmtp8, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuX8, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h Mrelay, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuXa8, S=11/31, R=61, E=\r\n, L=2040, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h # # envelope sender rewriting # S11 R$+ $: $>51 $1 sender/recipient common R$* :; <@> $@ list:; special case R$* $: $>61 $1 qualify unqual'ed names R$+ $: $>94 $1 do masquerading # # envelope recipient rewriting -- # also header recipient if not masquerading recipients # S21 R$+ $: $>51 $1 sender/recipient common R$+ $: $>61 $1 qualify unqual'ed names # # header sender and masquerading header recipient rewriting # S31 R$+ $: $>51 $1 sender/recipient common R:; <@> $@ list:; special case # do special header rewriting R$* <@> $* $@ $1 <@> $2 pass null host through R< @ $* > $* $@ < @ $1 > $2 pass route-addr through R$* $: $>61 $1 qualify unqual'ed names R$+ $: $>93 $1 do masquerading # # convert pseudo-domain addresses to real domain addresses # S51 # pass s through R< @ $+ > $* $@ < @ $1 > $2 resolve # output fake domains as user%fake@relay # # common sender and masquerading recipient rewriting # S61 R$* < @ $* > $* $@ $1 < @ $2 > $3 already fully qualified R$+ $@ $1 < @ *LOCAL* > add local qualification # # relay mailer header masquerading recipient rewriting # S71 R$+ $: $>61 $1 R$+ $: $>93 $1 ======================= END OF SENDMAIL.CF ============================= In article <32BA6F0A.6775@ans.com.au>, Richard Ashton writes: >Hello All, > >I wish to set up my home pc to retrieve mail from my local Internet >Service Provider, I am using Linux and I know little about how to do >this. My ISP uses PoP3 protocol and I tried to set up my sendmail.cf >file by replacing it with one that was supposed to work.When I ran my >script to start sendmail and popclient, my screen was filled with >error messages refering to the sendmail.cf file? >I know I have not given very specific infomation but could someone >point me in the right direction to get things up and running. > >Thanks in advance, Richard Ashton. mailto:ashtons@ans.com.au > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- /\_/\ Paul B. Brown ((( ( -.- ) pbrown@btc.btechnet.com || > " < Cape Dory 25D, Paul's Option (( (] | [) "Sailing is a state of mind . . . ." ((( | ) (_ | _) "Thirty minutes of begging is NOT considered foreplay." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:40:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA22101 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA14171 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:31:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA14167 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:31:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0veusu-00038gC; Mon, 30 Dec 96 19:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: korio001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Subject: Include command during Compose Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:15:51 -0600 Message-ID: <32C87756.A20@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a way in pine 3.95 to setup the "include message" command to appear *after* one's text insert, not before? Thanks much. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:15:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA20583 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:15:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA15541 for pine-info-out; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:10:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA15537 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:10:06 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:09:01 +0800 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:04:01 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Christoph Terhechte cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Command Line Options In-Reply-To: <32C7C6B7.1F2550CE@terhech.snafu.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Christoph Terhechte wrote: > I'd like to call pine from tin under Linux. To acquire this, pine would > have to accept three command line options: > > It would have to accept a receiver's address - no problem, it says so in > the manual. > > It would have to accept a given subject line - nothing about that in the > manual. > > It would have to accept a given file to be edited - nothing about that > either. At least item #2 kills your concept. Type "pine -h" and you will see.... hobbes[8]% pine -h Possible Starting Arguments for Pine program: Argument Meaning ... Go directly into composer sending to given address Standard input redirection is allowed with addresses. -d n Debug - set debug level to 'n' -f Folder - give folder name to open -c Context - which context to apply to -f arg -F File - give file name to open and page thru -h Help - give this list of options -k Keys - Force use of function keys -z Suspend - allow use of ^Z suspension -r Restricted - can only send mail to one self -sort Sort - Specify sort order of folder: subject, arrival, date, from, size, /reverse -i Index - Go directly to index, bypassing main menu -I Initial keystrokes to be executed -n Entry in index to begin on -o ReadOnly - Open first folder read-only -conf Configuration - Print out fresh global configuration -pinerc Configuration - Put fresh pinerc configuration in -p Use alternate .pinerc file -P Use alternate pine.conf file -create_lu create .lu from script -nr Special mode for UWIN -a Special anonymous mode for UWIN -l List - Expand List of folder collections by default -