




From: Gilad Aharoni <gaharoni@NETVISION.NET.IL>
Date: 19 May 2000 03:57
Subject: Re: Kawahata

I have Imaginary Animals of the World.
I think I would rate it on the simple-low intermediate side. Most of the
models are made from 2 (sometimes more) sheets,
but still, there are some nice models in there (like a cute centaur and a
3p. minotaur). The models are mostly 2D.
If you are looking for any "Origami Fantasy"-like challenges - you can
forget about it...
For a really good Imaginary animals books - I would highly recommend "Seres
de Ficcion" by Mario Adrados Netto and J. Anibal Voyer.
Most of the models in this book are quite complex and the resaults are just
stunning and extremely "Wowable".

Cheers
Gilad Aharoni
http://GiladAharoni.homestead.com

----- Original Message -----
From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 3:54 AM
Subject: Kawahata

> Does anyone have World's Wild Animals or Imaginary Animals of the World?
I
> was wondering how good the models are.  Are the simple, intermediate,
> complex?  Are they 3d, 2d?  Are they one sheet?
>
> David





From: Craig Willis <Craig.Willis@CHELSEAFC.NET>
Date: 19 May 2000 05:36
Subject: 2 Answer 2 Questions

Hiya List.

Answers 1 & 2

Just off the big 30 and started and have been folding off and on since the
age of twelve.  Although it may be against the whole philosophy of Origami I
got interested in it as a money making idea.  At the school fare I folded
origami animals for ten English pence each, although I must add all money
raised did go to the school.

Questions 1 & 2

Have started to attempt to fold the Kawasaki Rose, can any one give me any
advice or tips on this, also how many attempts did it take other folders to
create a satisfactory Kawasaki Rose?

I will be getting married in 6 months time and would like to be able to fold
a more creative napkin fold than that normally created by the Hotel itself.
Any books, sites etc... that could help me?

I think that is probably more than 2 questions but I look forward to your
many and varied answers.

Regards

Craig





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: 19 May 2000 05:43
Subject: Re: 2 Answer 2 Questions

Someone sent this round a few weeks ago, it shows various stages of the
rose.
There was another version which was animated but I can't find the link
anymore.

http://chocolate.custard.org/origami/rose.html

I've only had 1 go at the rose but it was with small paper and I got fairly
lost in all the creases. I haven't tried again yet but when I do it will be
with a bigger piece of paper.

-------------------------
        Allan   (ICQ 65208096)

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Willis [mailto:Craig.Willis@CHELSEAFC.NET]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 10:36 AM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: 2 Answer 2 Questions

Hiya List.

Answers 1 & 2

Just off the big 30 and started and have been folding off and on since the
age of twelve.  Although it may be against the whole philosophy of Origami I
got interested in it as a money making idea.  At the school fare I folded
origami animals for ten English pence each, although I must add all money
raised did go to the school.

Questions 1 & 2

Have started to attempt to fold the Kawasaki Rose, can any one give me any
advice or tips on this, also how many attempts did it take other folders to
create a satisfactory Kawasaki Rose?

I will be getting married in 6 months time and would like to be able to fold
a more creative napkin fold than that normally created by the Hotel itself.
Any books, sites etc... that could help me?

I think that is probably more than 2 questions but I look forward to your
many and varied answers.

Regards

Craig





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: 19 May 2000 08:22
Subject: Re: Kawahata

David, check the list archives. I've listed models in both books and
mentioned their complexity levels. BTW, all models in WAWO are 1-square,
no cuts, most high intermediate.

        Sincerely,
                Carlos





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 19 May 2000 08:41
Subject: Re: New Origami House Insect Book

Ditto over here!

-----Original Message-----
From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 08:41:21 -0400
Subject: Re: New Origami House Insect Book

>That books sounds awesome!  I want to ask something for all people on the
>list: if you find out information about ordering this book and its
>availability would you please pass it on?  Thank you.
>
>David





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 19 May 2000 08:49
Subject: Re: Kawahata

Hey, Dave. I acquired a copy of Imaginary Animals of the World about two
years ago for my association. Half the book are single-sheet creations, the
other are multi-sheet. My favorites: a Sphinx and Pyramid, each from a
single sheet; Pegasus and a centaur, both from two sheets; and the
ever-present dragon and a Minotaur from three sheets. Most of the models ae
high-intermediate, much like Kawahata's Origami Dinosaurs. There are other
cool animals, but since the book's in Japanese I have no idea what some of
them really are. There's something like a fox with 9 tails and another that
might be a fairy, but that's my guess. Most of the models are pretty much 2d
(to paraphrase David Brill, they look like they were "run over by a
steamroller"), but don't put them down: the dragon is simply amazing (it's
on the cover). If you're thinking of purchasing this book, I would give it a
4.5 on a 1-to-5 scale, so yeah, go ahead.

JC

-----Original Message-----
From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 08:49:51 -0400
Subject: Kawahata

>Does anyone have World's Wild Animals or Imaginary Animals of the World?  I
>was wondering how good the models are.  Are the simple, intermediate,
>complex?  Are they 3d, 2d?  Are they one sheet?
>
>David





From: T <origami@CATTAIL.NU>
Date: 19 May 2000 08:49
Subject: Re: 2 Answer 2 Questions

There's an animated rose on my page and a rather crumpled tutorial (do not
fold paper when you are in a foul mood - it shows).
http://www.cattail.nu/origami.html

Since posting this url to the list, K.A. Lundberg taught me a much easier
way to do the twist fold, and I'm planning on updating my page accordingly.
It may even be easier than the squash fold on the rose.html below, which is
still a great improvement over how I was doing the twist fold.

> http://chocolate.custard.org/origami/rose.html
Does the owner of this site mind if I link to it from mine?

- T





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 19 May 2000 09:21
Subject: Re: 2 Answer 2 Questions

>I will be getting married in 6 months time and would like to be able to
fold
>a more creative napkin fold than that normally created by the Hotel itself.
>Any books, sites etc... that could help me?
>
>Regards
>
>Craig

Hey, Craig, congratulations! Hope it's a great wedding. There's a beautiful
book on napking folding which I think is called -- duh -- "Napking Folding",
by Gay Merrill Gross. I know you can find a copy at
http://www.fascinating-folds.com , and probably Amazon has a copy. I once
saw another book on napkin folding at the local bookstore, and I bought
another one, but the one by Gay Merrill Gross is by far the best. I've
always meant to buy it but it keeps eluding me.

JC





From: Kate Goff & Erik Rohman <erikkate@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 19 May 2000 09:46
Subject: Re: age and first time

Hello!

    I'm 28 years old, and I've been folding actively for about a year.
I can't remember when I learned to fold the crane, but when I got my
very own first Xmas tree, I didn't have any ornaments, so I folded foil
cranes to decorate it (and I still have those cranes, they go up every
year!).  Then last May my sister asked if I'd ever heard of folding 1000
cranes.  I hadn't, and she explained it to me.  So I took up the
challenge.  After about 500, I was getting bored with folding the same
things over and over, so I checked out a couple of books from the
library.  Everyone in my office was delighted with my new creations!
Then I bought Origami Omnibus, and as it's been said, it was all
downhill from there.  I now own at least 15 books, although I haven't
mastered them all.  This summer I will be teaching six origami classes,
as well as giving an origami demonstration for the public library at a
large summer festival.  So I'm always looking for new book
recommendations!

BTW, on the online ordering thread, I've ordered from both Fascinating
Folds and Kim's Crane, and they are both very speedy, usually a week or
less (less, in the case of Kim's -- and I live much closer to Arizona
than Virginia!)

Kate





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 19 May 2000 10:11
Subject: Re: Kawahata

David Whitbeck asked:

>Does anyone have World's Wild Animals or Imaginary Animals of the World?

Wild Animals of the World has 15 models, simple to high intermediate, and
all 3-D, (I think OUSA lists the book as 3-D Animals):

    Fox
    Squirrel
    Anteater (?)
    Elephant - simple and cute
    Polar Bear - simple and realistic, a favorite
    Rhino
    Elk - I'm guessing, some large antlered beastie
    Musk Ox - very much like Kawahata's in Montroll's North American Animals
    Bull
    Yak - might be a water buffalo or an ox
    Buffalo - might be a bison  ;^) also like the one in NAA
    Wolf - howling pose
    Gorilla - seated, ready to thump chest, another favorite
    Baby Panda
    Oryx - guessing, long pointy antlers

There is little in this book that would remind you of Origami Fantasy, but
Kawahata's simple designs often have unique folding sequences and Aha! moves
that make them a pleasure to fold.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Jason Challenger <Aspersions@AOL.COM>
Date: 19 May 2000 10:23
Subject: Difference between Tanteidan Convention Books and JOAS magazines?

Do the Tanteidan Convention books and the JOAS magazines contain different
models?   Or are there duplicates?  I was considering subscribing the JOAS
magazines, but I was hesitant and their webpage suggested to me that they
contained exactly the same models?  Any information would be greatly
appreciated.





From: Larry Wood <origami@TELEPORT.COM>
Date: 19 May 2000 10:38
Subject: Re: 2 Answer 2 Questions

Check out OUSA site, www.origami-ousa.org and work your way into the book
section.  As I recall they have several small "booklet" type publications
regarding napkin folding.

Larry

> I will be getting married in 6 months time and would like to be able to
fold
> a more creative napkin fold than that normally created by the Hotel
itself.
> Any books, sites etc... that could help me?





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 19 May 2000 10:48
Subject: Re: Difference between Tanteidan Convention Books and JOAS magazines?

>Do the Tanteidan Convention books and the JOAS magazines contain different
>models?

    You betcha... no overlap, all new models in each, every time.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Lara <lara.hartley@GTE.NET>
Date: 19 May 2000 11:04
Subject: folding groups?

Hi, I am  new to this list - fairly new to folding - started in '88 stopped
for a while and now started again.

I am looking for any kind of folding group within a couple of hours of
Barstow, Ca - halfway between LA and Las Vegas - rather the middle of the
desert. Great place to live - not so great in meeting other origami
enthusiastists.

Any suggestions anyone?

Lara

"I am certain of nothing but the holiness of the heart's affections and the
truth of the imagination."       John Keats

http://www.digitalstoryteller.com/YITL/Lara%20Hartley/current.html

http://www.digitalstoryteller.com/BTV99/hartley/index.html

http://www.exploring-barstow.com/





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 19 May 2000 11:32
Subject: Jim Churn's $ Crane Ring, permissions ... [NO, long]

Hey Ros,

Were you trying to get permission from Jim Churn to include
diagrams for his $ Crane Ring in an OUSA publication?

I know someone was, don't know who.

Didn't know about this until I recently talked with Jim Churn,
and found he'd been holding it up, waiting to talk to me,
because he felt he should credit me for helping design it.

I'm not sure why, all I did was show him the theory and
techniques for my rings, and later, improve the lock on his
ring.  But he came up with that ring himself.

Jim says he derived the ring from the base of the $ Bill
"Two Frogs on a Teeter-Totter", and I confess I still don't
see the connection, maybe because I don't know that fold,
but I gotta believe him. :-)

Anyway, my apologies for accidentally derailing the process,
I didn't know this was happening ("Nobody tells me anything."
...)

I did leave a message for someone at OUSA, trying to find
out what was going on, and who to send what to, to fix the
problem, but I haven't had an answer back yet.  Oh, I just
found my copy of that.  it was to marc@origami-usa.org
Saturday, April 22, 2000 4:14 PM.

My apologies to you and both lists, but I'm cross-posting this,
in hopes of a quicker resolution.

Whoever can help, I need copies of whatever forms Jim and I
need to fill out and send in, and clear instructions of where to
send the forms.  Jim has the letter someone sent him, someplace,
but I don't know if he can find it now, and I'm a little too impatient
to wait.

I just looked thru my notes.  If Jim has an email address, I don't
know about it.

Also, altho I have a data/fax modem, I apparently don't have fax
software installed, so I can't fax anything, sorry. Guess I'm a
techno-klutz.  Haven't figured out what to do about that.  Haven't
needed the ability, until two weeks ago, when my neighbor
wanted something sent by fax, and I thought to try it, and, gee, it
wouldn't work.  What a disappointment.  _sigh_.

Aloha,
"Mad"
madhawn@concentric.net

Kenneth M. Kawamura
328 N. Fairview
Lansing, MI  48912-3110

(517) 482-6905
(but I only have one phone line, and I cancelled
"Call Waiting" to save the $5/month, so you're
likely to get a busy signal.)





From: Doug Philips <dgou@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 19 May 2000 11:34
Subject: Re: odd paper

Anita Barbour indited:
>   If the paper you are describing has a slight pebbly texture, slightly
>shiny on one side, matte on the other,  it may be "flower paper."

>         Flower paper, besides the obvious, is good for small, complex
>models, because it is so thin and it creases beautifully.  Bad things to
>use
>it for?  Anything  that requires the suggestion of bulk, like elephants and
>hippos!

Mostly, agreed. I gave a few sheets to local folder who proceeded to fold
Maekawa's Demon from it. He said it was the strongest paper he'd ever used (
I think this was before we knew of Elephant hide, but I'm not sure how to
compare them, since EH is way more thick, making the flower paper stronger
per unit of thickness ;-) ).

I said "Mostly" because if the model uses open spaces to create the illusion
of bulk, this isn't the paper for that kind of model. If the model uses
layers of paper, then this is the paper to use (Maekawa's Demon is a great
example of this).

-D'gou
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 19 May 2000 12:06
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Orchide_du_Par=EDs?=

Hi, people! I need a little help. I'm folding an orchid I found on the French
     origami association (forgot the name, sorry). I managed to fold it right
     up to the two steps, where the diagrams stopped being clear and I just
     couldn't figure out the instructi

1.- Double enfoncement  partir es plis existants: Insrez votre dolgt par le
     haut et formez une pyramide  partir de la base en rpartissant
     symtriquement les battants intrieurs duex par deux.

2.- Vue du dessus -- le carr reprsente la base creuse de la pyramide  base
     carre. Pincez le haut de la pyramide afin de donner une forme triangulaire
     cette base (suggrre par le pointille). Insrez la pointe b dans la ponte a
     pour forme la corolle;

Merci! I mean, gracias! I mean, thanks a lot!

JC





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 19 May 2000 12:22
Subject: Thank you, Florence Temko, Doug Philips,

> You were high bidder on...
> Joyful Life ...
> Funny Money ...

> Doug will send you "Joyful Life" and Florence Temko "Funny Money"

Aloha Rachel,

I've received both books, thank you.

"Funny Money", by Florence Temko,
copyr. 1998, ISBN 0-87406-895-9,
arrived from Florence Temko, Monday, 5/15/00,
autographed, with a nice note, a very pretty addition
to my collection of moneyfold books.

"Joyful Life with Origami", by Makoto Yamaguchi,
copyr. 1999 (?), ISBN 4-7916-0085-1,
arrived from Doug Philips, Wednesday, 5/17/00.
I think it's inscribed, but, sorry Doug,
I can't figure out how to read that,  :-) ,
not even sure what language it's in.
Neat book, another one of those that makes me
wish I'd learned to read my grandparent's language,
and I'm certain I don't already own it. A lot of cutting,
and wrapping and packaging and utility folds,
but I like those categories, very interesting.

I'm a little too confused to know what Doug's email address is,
and I forgot to copy you in on the thank you note to Florence
Temko, and I wanted you to know the books arrived, so,
I'm cross-posting this to origami-l, in hopes that Doug'll see
this.  Besides, this way I can tell everyone about the books.

Mahalo nui loa, domo arigato, muchas gracias, merci beaucoup,
bolshoyo sposibo, ..., thank you very much,

Kenneth M. Kawamura
328 N. Fairview
Lansing, MI  48912-3110

madhawn@concentric.net

P.S. -- [NO]  (funny story) As I was sitting here typing this, I thought
my computer had started burning, then I recognized the smell.
I guess it's a cold morning, my furnace just turned on, and is
blowing stale air thru the ducts.  Nasty smell.  <wrinkle nose>
:-D





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 19 May 2000 12:30
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:______Orchide_du_Par=EDs?=

Hi Juan Carlo,

Cut and paste the phrases you want translated to:

http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/

and you'll get what you're looking for, mostly. i.e.:

1. - Double depression to be left be existing folds: Insert your dolgt by
the top and form a pyramid starting from the base by distributing the
interior leaves symmetrically duex by two.
2. - Sight of the top -- the square represents the hollow base of the
pyramid at square base. Grip the top of the pyramid in order to give a
triangular form to this base (suggirrie by dots). Insert the point B in the
laying has as a form the corolla; the point C should advance forwards in
order to forming the pistil.

Close enough, given the cost!

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: "K. A. Lundberg" <klundber@MNSINC.COM>
Date: 19 May 2000 13:35
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:__Orchide_du_Par=EDs?=

I'm guessing the problem happens in the final sink--steps 28 and 29.  Last
time this came up someone from the site contacted me.  Since then I have put
together a page of photos showing the model as it progresses through the
sink.  I think it would be nice to keep the helpful hint page on the same
site as the diagrams...so if that person will contact me again I will send
them the photos.

Kalei
klundber@mnsinc.com





From: Cal faile <calfaile@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 19 May 2000 14:12
Subject: Re: age

I'm 16, I've been folding for as long as I can remember (Which, isn't as
impressive as it sounds, since my memory is really err. . . "limited"). I'm
new to this list, I think this is my first post (Not sure though, see above
note).  I never knew that there was such a thriving community of folders out
here, wish I had discovered it sooner!

-Calfaile

P.S. I own a copy of Lang's "Origami insects and their kin"  I LOVE it!
It's one of the few books that I've found that have challenging models.
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 19 May 2000 14:58
Subject: Re: age

Calfaile wrote:
>
>P.S. I own a copy of Lang's "Origami insects and their kin"  I LOVE it!
>It's one of the few books that I've found that have challenging models.

Try these on for size. Some are not as challenging as "Insects" but they'll
still make your fingers bleed:

1.- Origami: From Angelfish to Zen (Peter Engel)
2.- Origami Sea Life (John Montroll and Robert Lang)
3.- Origami Sculptures (John Montroll)
4.- Origami in Action (Robert Lang)
5.- Origami for the Connoiseur (Kunihiko Kasahara)

And if your appetite for challenge isn't enough, try visiting these
websites:

 Ronald Koh's page:
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Palace/3457/ronald.htm

Marc Kirschenbaum's page:
http://marckrsh.home.pipeline.com/

Ronald's page is more pictures of his work than diagrams, but the diagrams
he does have are quite more than enough, as ALL his models are a pleasure to
fold and see once you finish. And Marc's page has a mix of simple,
intermediate and very complex models. His Blue Crab make Robert Lang's
Scorpion seem like high intermediate instead of complex -- I have NEVER been
able to fold beyond the first dozen or so steps!

Enjoy!

Juan Carlo Rodrmguez
Lonely Venezuelan on the Origami list...
But making great friends overseas!





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 19 May 2000 15:06
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Orchide_du_Par=EDs?=

Thanks to everyone who answered back. I knew I could find help amongst you
     guys. God bless you all! You know you can count on me for Spanish
     translations.

JC





From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 19 May 2000 18:30
Subject: Alternative translation site

Another good translating site is: http://www.translation.go.com/

IT will translate websites link by link, page by page.

Unfortunately for JC it only does the major European languages to English
and back.

I have found it to be useful at work although it is sometimes very slow.
Depending on the graphics
set up some pages do not translate. Sometimes I get Spanglish or Franglais,
but at least I can
understand the general flow of the text.

Mark Kennedy





From: Zack Brown <zbrown@LINUXCARE.COM>
Date: 19 May 2000 20:06
Subject: Underground Origami Page has moved

Hi folks,

the Underground Origami Page has moved to

http://underground.zork.net/

Please update your bookmarks and links. There are also a couple new models,
by Kim Best and Guillerno Garcia.

Zack





From: Weldon MacDonald <weldon.macdonald@SYMPATICO.CA>
Date: 19 May 2000 20:48
Subject: Re: Creativity 2

Your being to restrictive, you can be creative and not do crafts or art.
The goal is or should be, to be creative in what you do.  I make a living
solving problems. My solutions are always creative, and I get great pleasure
out of watching problems melt out of the way of my solutions, second only to
the pleasure of being paid for them.  I get all the satisfaction from it as
I do other artistic endeavors.
Learning to fold etc... are just different ways to explore my creative
spirit.

I've been a father, I dream, I wonder about the world and how things work
and I am continually reinventing myself. Isn't that creative? Don't sell
people short because they don't express themselves in the way you choose to
do. There's more to them than you think.

Weldon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anine Cleve" <anine21@USA.NET>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 6:35 AM
Subject: Creativity 2

Hi!

Before I read any further mails I can see I wasn't clear enough in my
question. When I just wrote creativity and not specify creativity it's
because
I only have one association to creativity ;)
By being creative I mean people like me who do painting, folding, molding,
weaving and so on and so on... whatever we can get our hands on. I don't do
all these things at the same time, but before I found origami I tried all
those things and because of the little impatience I have I never did them
for
long, but I go back to them now and then. My room is filled with paint,
papers, drawing paper and tools and all the stuff I've had my hands on. I
have
some need to use my hands/be creative like that. Even if I'm just copying
someone, so for me it's not about doing or inventing new stuff, it's about
just doing something.
And I know people who never fold or paint or draw or weave or anything like
that and it was those people I meant that they don't like to be creative. I
mean you can ask them to paint or draw or something and they won't find any
fun in doing it. So my question again: Why are some people creative and some
not?
Hope that made it more clear :)
                                    Anine

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From: Rachel Katz <rachel_katz@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 19 May 2000 21:33
Subject: good news and not so good

Hi All,

I just got word that Yurii and Katrin (creators of
Oriland) received their Visas from the U.S.
Apparently, because they were in California in
November, they are being penalized and have to pay for
a multi-entry visa to the tune of $200 each.

They will be attending the OUSA convention with their
origami including their new city "Sun City" on
display.

Due to this additional expense, and Toby Schwartz'
industriousness, I will be holding another auction in
a little while. Anyone having any duplicate books
willing to donate them please contact me privately.

Thanks to all who have participated so far.

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From: Rachel Katz <rachel_katz@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 19 May 2000 21:43
Subject: Info for Americans

This concerns Americans and Canadians who might want
to purchase The Shumakovs Oriland CDs. Since Katrin
and Yurii will not be returning to their home till the
middle of July (They are attending both the French and
American origami conventions), I am sending out the
CDs from here. This will save you on shipping costs.
Any American need pay just $1.25 and Canadians $1.75
for shipping. If you choose to pay over the Internet
using Paypal.com, they are offering $5 credit the
first time you pay with your Visa or Mastercard
through them. I've been using this method for a while
and seems to work fine. If you use me as a referral,
they will credit my (all proceeds go to Yurii and
Katrin) account with an additional $5 too.

The cost of the CDs is $30 each and my account is:
origamiteacher@yahoo.com

Please email me privately for any more information.

=====

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com/





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 20 May 2000 01:51
Subject: Re: Kawahata

Thanks Gilad!  I will certainly take in mind your suggestion.  The kind of
book I'm looking for is intermediate to complex, but not hypercomplex like
Origami Fantasy.

David





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 20 May 2000 01:54
Subject: [RE:  When was your first time ;)] and a question about a paper

Hey Joe (Wezorek) it might be the same one if you used balsa wood to make
the tail, my friend knows how to fold it and I'll have him email you.  It's
a simple model, I reverse engineered it in less than 30 seconds but
everytime I try to describe how to fold something I always fail.

David





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 20 May 2000 02:40
Subject: Origami Insects was Re: age

Yes Origami Insects is a great book.  Right now I'm working on the Scarab
Beetle.  The first time I folded it was nearly a disaster, but the second
time it worked out beautifully.  I'm trying to consider what color paper I
will find the final one out of.

David





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 20 May 2000 05:59
Subject: Re: New Origami House Insect Book

>  New Origami House Insect Book

Is this the Insect book everyones been waiting for ? Where can I get it !!!!!

C'ya
Dave

(trying to read through the 6832 that have built up in the past few weeks :)





From: Ho <gmjkho@PRIMUS.COM.AU>
Date: 20 May 2000 08:54
Subject: Yoshizawa Exhibition Report by D. Lister. --- Thank you !

Dear David,

I enjoyed reading the Akira Yoshizawa's exhibition report,  very reflective and
     descriptive.

Thank you for your time and effort in sharing the valuable Kyoto experience.

Let's hope that, as wished by Mr.Yoshizawa --- paperfolding will help to bring
     peace to the world.

Sincerely,

George Ho
Australia

***************************************************************
Origami & Mental Health Therapy

http://go.to/origami





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 20 May 2000 09:50
Subject: Re: gestation

I'm taking up this little discussion rather later...

I too have experienced this "period of gestation" while learning various
things. Sometimes it lasts only half an hour, and sometimes it spans several
years.
I think I first noticed it when learning languages at school - I'd go back
after the summer holidays thinking I'd forgotten everything, and instead it
just seemed to flow out again so nicely from somewhere at the back of my
mind...
I found it useful to keep up practising when I started learning juggling...
I've learnt to depend on it when I get stuck in the process of folding a
relatively complex model or trying to create a new model...
BTW, there's a really interesting article on this subject in Peter Engel's
"Origami from Angelfish to Zen".

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Origami Mailing List [mailto:Origami@MIT.Edu]On Behalf Of david
> whitbeck
> Sent: jeudi, 18. mai 2000 02:02
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: gestation
>
>
> Speaking of gestation periods: I've found that my skill in
> folding improves
> over the periods that I don't fold.  I will fold for awhile and get tired
> of it, and in that period there will be folds that I will have tried but
> didn't succeed.  When I get back into folding I find that my skill and
> patience has improved.  Maybe it's because when I produce some good models
> I get overconfident and greedy for more models and start to folder faster,
> faster than I should and keep botching up models.  When I just
> start in the
> game I take my time on the models and make less mistakes than I did.  I
> myself didn't have a gestation period when I first started folding but
> several times I've periodically left origami for a few months.





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: 20 May 2000 09:52
Subject: Origami Meeting

Hello Everyone,

        Another Scottish Mini-meeting will take place in Perth on 28th May. If
anyone wishes further details, reply to me privately. All welcome!

                                                        Dennis Walker
                                                        (TheWalkers@iname.com)





From: Margaret Skladzien <goshia@ENTER.NET.PL>
Date: 20 May 2000 10:15
Subject: I've been folding without talking till now

Hello,

Following John Payton example, I would like to let you know I've been
lurking :) here for a couple of months.
My name is Malgorzata (Margaret) Skladzien, I'm from Wroclaw in Poland.
Today is my 10022th day of life. Oops! I missed my ten thousandth day.

On last Sunday I finished 1000 cranes for my friend (it took me
10 weeks). They are small - 40 from one A4-size paper (narrowed a little).
Together - about 1.5 litres of  cranes in 10 colours. I'm going to pack them
into a transparent container like a jar or a bottle.

I started folding when I was about 14 years old. Yesterday I searched
my old belongings and found some origamiworks which had survived: snail,
frog, birds, flowers, dinosaurs...,  and diagrams which I had cut from
journals. The most complex model I folded in that time was a stegosaur
from a magazine "Young technician".
Then I didn't fold anything for a long time.

A few months ago I began to look for diagrams on-line. I found lots of
them and The Origami List.

By now I've folded (not complete list):
- Gecko and Fly on a Wall,
- Kawasaki rose,
- daffodil (wonderful model)
- cranes-go-round (it was a tricki one - without diagrams)
- a few different dragons
- pair of swans and two mice (slim and fat) from spanish page
- Fujimoto hexagonal boxes
- a few modular "balls"
- George the Crocodile (my favourite)

!!!  Thanks to all of you who put diagrams on the web. !!!

Greetings,

Gosia Skladzien





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 20 May 2000 14:50
Subject: info Perry's death

Hi everyone!

        I thought that I should inform of what was suppose to be the
cause of death for my Dad and I will explain as best as I can.
IN the death certificate it says he died from a Cardiac
Arrythmia which was due to Apneic spell of Pickwickian Syndrome
which overcall cause is suppose to be from Morbid Obesity.  They
blame it all on his weight but my Aunt said a lot of times when
an overweight person dies there tends to be some blame put on
their weight.  Any ways, (as far as I understand) it was a heart
attack/  The heart attack came on because for some reason or
another he was holding his breath.  In normal circumstances when
someone hold their breathe they tend end up starting to breath
again eventually a natural reaction, but my dad's case that
apparently did not occur.  If any one else can explain the
technical jargon better feel free to.  I just thought you should
know the cause of death.

Erralee Bailey
--
"Continental chambermaids
are very hard to shock,
first they wait until your naked
then they enter, then they knock!"

Victor Buono from "It could be verse"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 20 May 2000 15:13
Subject: Re: info Perry's death

Dear Erralee,

Thank you for sharing that with us.  We're delighted you're with us,
carrying on in the Bailey tradition. I eagerly look forward to more of
your original designs!

Dorothy

PS - Diagrams for Erralee's neat cobra bookmark fold are at:

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/





From: Zach White <8trak@INDY.NET>
Date: 20 May 2000 15:13
Subject: statistics

    i'm sorry to say this message isn't really about origami, but i'm looking
     for lots of data to use in my statistics project. i'm trying to look for a
     relationship between height and hand length and to use that relationship
     to do stats stuff, but first

     --zach white--





From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: 20 May 2000 16:40
Subject: Can we resurrect the [NO] protocol?

Hi all:

With so many newcomers adding to our cyber-family, I wanted to ask if we
could re-instate use of the [NO] designation in the subject when the topic
of an e-mail is "Non-Origami."  I really enjoy reading about some of the
peripheral activities we enjoy, our travels, interesting projects, etc.,
but I for one sort my mail by subject, and I with the volume of Origami
topics that comes in, I'd prefer to keep the non-origami stuff for later.

Not complaining, just recommending - if no one wants to go back to the more
meaningful subject lines, it is likely I will survive such a decision.

It's just my opinion; it can't hurt you.

"Peace in Creases"
Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com
steve.woodmansee@connext.com
Bend, Oregon, USA





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
Date: 20 May 2000 16:44
Subject: Oriland CDs for International customers

Hi people across the pond and elsewhere in the world. If you would like to
order the Oriland CDs, I've found a site called Billpoint which allows payment
by Visa or Mastercard from many countries. You can click on to:

http://billpoint.com/services/international.html

I haven't signed up yet but am willing to do so if this makes it more
convenient and cheaper to pay for the CDs.

For any newbies not familiar with the work of Yurii and Katrin Shumakov (of
Russia) you can access their site at:

www.origami.aaanet.ru

Seems I've been dropped from the Origami-L again so please email me privately
for more information.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: An de Vries & John Blackman <blackman@XS4ALL.NL>
Date: 20 May 2000 17:34
Subject: virus warning

Hi everyone,

Today I got a virus warning, when I opened Zach White's e-mail.
So, beware!

If this message turns out to be infected too, please let me know.

An de Vries





From: Nancy Hulen <nhulen@SOCKETS.NET>
Date: 20 May 2000 17:53
Subject: Re: virus warning

I got a virus warning also.

Nancy Hulen

At 04:34 PM 05/20/2000 , you wrote:
Hi
everyone,

Today I got a virus warning, when I
opened Zach White's e-mail.
So, beware!

If this message turns out to be infected
too, please let me know.

An de Vries





From: Bruce Stephens <bruce@CENDERIS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 20 May 2000 19:18
Subject: Re: virus warning

An de Vries & John Blackman <blackman@XS4ALL.NL> writes:

> Today I got a virus warning, when I opened Zach White's e-mail.

I didn't, but then I don't have a virus checker.

Zach's messages contains what looks to me like extremely suspicious
script.  I don't know enough about whatever the language is supposed
to be to know what the script is trying to do, but I wouldn't open it
in a Windows mail reader: no mail message should be trying to run
regedit, for example.

> If this message turns out to be infected too, please let me know.

No, looks like just HTML.





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 20 May 2000 20:08
Subject: Virus warning

The following message from my ISP might be old hat by the time it gets
to you, but just in case some may find the info useful, here it is ...

Ronald

To All SingNet Email Users,

A newly discovered email virus, VBS.NewLove.A, has just hit USA (May 18,
2000 USA time). It is an extremely destructive Visual Basic script worm
that affects Windows 95/98/NT/2000, and like the recent VBS_LOVELETTER
worm, the virus tries to spam itself to all users in the Microsoft
Outlook
address book.

However, VBS.NewLove.A does not use the same filename -- outgoing
messages
can have a different subject line, as well as different file
attachments,
making it more difficult to detect.

This virus is very destructive and disables Windows. If an infected
system
cannot be restarted Windows must be re-installed. Users are advised to
make backups of the files that were not destroyed by the virus before
re-installing Windows.

However, if the virus has still not performed its payload, and Windows
is
still functional, the following steps may be followed to remove the
virus
from the system.

Scan the system, and list down the files detected as VBS_SPAMMER. Please
check with your anti-virus software vendors for the latest pattern
file. If you are using Trend Micro, the latest pattern file that detects
this virus is available upon special requests to
Virus_Doctor@trendmicro.com.

Alternatively, concerned users who do not have any anti-virus software
installed on their PC, can also make use of the free on-line scanning
service, such as HouseCall at http://housecall.antivirus.com/ to ensure
that their systems are not infected.

For more information on the virus, you may visit the url at:
1) http://www.singnet.com.sg/virus/NEWLOVE_A.html
2)
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=VBS_NEWLOVE.A

Regards,
SingNet





From: Michael Antonette <mylor@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Date: 20 May 2000 20:09
Subject: Re: virus warning

   Ditto here. Luckily, my system wouldn't even let me open it...

                           Michael

"The great square has no corners." -- Lao Tzu

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Stephens" <bruce@CENDERIS.DEMON.CO.UK>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: May 20, 2000 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: virus warning

> An de Vries & John Blackman <blackman@XS4ALL.NL> writes:
>
> > Today I got a virus warning, when I opened Zach White's e-mail.





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 20 May 2000 23:29
Subject: [NO] [long] Oops!  Problem deleting Zack White's message ...

I'm not sure about Zack White's message.
I did notice that when I read it, my connection
to my ISP was suddenly terminated.
When I tried to re-read it, it seemed to trigger
two attempts to re-connect.

I managed to save it as a .txt file and look at it.
Sure enough, it has an html tail that echoes the
text of the message, then veers off into a
script (is there such an animal as an ActiveX
script?) in what seems to be a script language
I don't know (like most of them) that looks
suspiciously like it's meddling in the registry,
and trying to do file i/o and creation.

I made the mistake of trying to delete it, without
first checking to make sure my "focus" was
where it should be, and accidentally deleted
the whole mail directory it was in, the one where
I was keeping all the last several month's origami-l
messages. _sigh_.

Not that this kind of thing hasn't happened to me
before, I lost over two years of AOL email, including
origami-l messages, when an incoming AOL Instant
Message locked up my system, and after
re-booting I discovered my AOL "Personal Filing
Cabinet"-'s index had gotten well and truly scrambled.

I think the messages were still there, but without a
good index, they had to be pulled out, cleaned up,
and reformatted, one by one, which was just too
much work.

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 20 May 2000 23:38
Subject: [NO] [lshort] Oops!  Problem deleting Zack White's message ...

I just now got clumsy, and accidentally
deleted my whole origami-l folder, when I
tried to delete my local copy of Zack
White's message,  :-(  .

So, if I fail to reply to anyone, it may be that
I've lost your email address and/or message,
instead of my usual procrastination and
forgetfulness.  :-)

I'm assuming that, since I use Outlook Express
rather than Outlook, that I've been spared the
effects of the recent viruses, <crossing fingers>.

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura





From: Bob Burt <rburt@MEDIAONE.NET>
Date: 21 May 2000 00:08
Subject: How to get on origami-l

This may seem like a dumb question but how do I get on origami-l?

Thanks





From: Zach White <8trak@INDY.NET>
Date: 21 May 2000 00:27
Subject: don't open this unless you already got a warning from my first message

    i got a message from some router too telling me my message was infected. i
     did have a virus on my system a couple weeks ago and i thought i had
     gotten it all cleaned out and taken care of, but apparently it's still on
     here, it can get into my e-mails,





From: "Monica Crump, Lady Protector of the Realm" <monica@SCRUZNET.COM>
Date: 21 May 2000 00:37
Subject: {NO} Re: Virus warning

Hello from a recent lurker.  Here's a good way to block the ability of the "I
Love You" class of virus attacks:

http://www.F-Secure.com/virus-info/u-vbs/

This is for Windows users.  Start by selecting your version of the operating
system (95, 98, 2000, NT) and follow the very easy directions.  They include
screenshots for the novice (like me ;-) users.

Thanks for letting me join this wonderful community.  I really enjoy what an
upbeat, happy group of people you all seem to be!

~Monica

Ronald Koh wrote:

> The following message from my ISP might be old hat by the time it gets
> to you, but just in case some may find the info useful, here it is ...
>
> Ronald
>
> To All SingNet Email Users,
>
> A newly discovered email virus, VBS.NewLove.A, has just hit USA (May 18,
> 2000 USA time). It is an extremely destructive Visual Basic script worm
> that affects Windows 95/98/NT/2000, and like the recent VBS_LOVELETTER
> worm, the virus tries to spam itself to all users in the Microsoft
> Outlook
> address book.
>
> However, VBS.NewLove.A does not use the same filename -- outgoing
> messages
> can have a different subject line, as well as different file
> attachments,
> making it more difficult to detect.
>
> This virus is very destructive and disables Windows. If an infected
> system
> cannot be restarted Windows must be re-installed. Users are advised to
> make backups of the files that were not destroyed by the virus before
> re-installing Windows.
>
> However, if the virus has still not performed its payload, and Windows
> is
> still functional, the following steps may be followed to remove the
> virus
> from the system.
>
> Scan the system, and list down the files detected as VBS_SPAMMER. Please
> check with your anti-virus software vendors for the latest pattern
> file. If you are using Trend Micro, the latest pattern file that detects
> this virus is available upon special requests to
> Virus_Doctor@trendmicro.com.
>
> Alternatively, concerned users who do not have any anti-virus software
> installed on their PC, can also make use of the free on-line scanning
> service, such as HouseCall at http://housecall.antivirus.com/ to ensure
> that their systems are not infected.
>
> For more information on the virus, you may visit the url at:
> 1) http://www.singnet.com.sg/virus/NEWLOVE_A.html
> 2)
> http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=VBS_NEWLOVE.A
>
> Regards,
> SingNet

--

You may arise.

**************

Before you leave our presence,
please take a moment to visit
the following worthy sites.

http://www.thehungersite.com
http://www.therainforestsite.com





From: dan newman <dnewman@CAPITAL.NET>
Date: 21 May 2000 00:50
Subject: cigar and golf club

hello

I have a friend who wants me to fold her a cigar and a golf club, does
anyone know of any diagrams?

thank you

Dan





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 21 May 2000 01:47
Subject: Re: How to get on origami-l

Hi Bob!

Since we got your message, I assume you already are on origami-l...

Welcome to the club!

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Origami Mailing List [mailto:Origami@MIT.Edu]On Behalf Of Bob Burt
> Sent: dimanche, 21. mai 2000 05:56
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: How to get on origami-l
>
>
> This may seem like a dumb question but how do I get on origami-l?
>
> Thanks





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 21 May 2000 02:10
Subject: Re: (NO) Virus warning

Hi folks!

I didn't get any warning of a virus with Zach's message. There had been a
funny announcement when I started my computer that the system could not open
one file, but I pressed "OK" and forgot about it until I opened my mail. The
first I knew about the new virus was from Ronald's mail -  thanks for the
warning! And heartfelt thanks also to Monica Crump for the URL she sent.
It turned out that I did apparently have the virus tag in my files, so I
hope none of the messages I sent this morning are infected. This one
shouldn't be.

Best wishes & happy folding to all!

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Tommy <twstevens@HOME.COM>
Date: 21 May 2000 02:44
Subject: [NO] Wscript.KakWorm information

Here are some links to information that may help those affected by the
recent script sent to the list.

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/wscript.kakworm.html

http://www.pchell.com/internet/kakworm.shtml

http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=VBS_KAKWORM.A

http://www.sweep.nl/virusinfo/analyses/vbskakworm.html

Tommy





From: "John L. Payton" <John_L._Payton@UP.COM>
Date: 21 May 2000 03:08
Subject: (NO) info Perry's death

Errallee,

Pickwickian Syndrome is when a person has trouble breathing and the doctor
believes it is because of obesity.  An apneic incident simply means that he
stopped breathing for more than 10 seconds.  Very long apneas can cause a heart
attack because of lack of oxygen to the heart and brain.  Usually, apneas happen
while sleeping.

I agree with your aunt that doctors tend to seize upon a person's weight as the
cause of practically every medical problem.  I have sleep apnea, and have had it
since I was a skinny teenager.  When I finally decided to do something about it,
my doctor didn't want to take any steps until after I'd lost weight, saying that
this would probably cure me.

My wife got the same treatment when she expressed concern over her cholesterol.
Had she been put on the proper medecines at that time, she may not have had to
undergo heart surgery.

Large people really need to be assertive when it comes to insisting upon good
medical care.  Yes, sometimes we really need to lose weight, but that's no
excuse to not get good care RIGHT NOW.

Well, that's enough ranting.

Thanks for sharing with us.  I know that this can't be easy for you.

John





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 21 May 2000 05:42
Subject: Re: Virus warning

Ron,
At 08.08 21/5/2000 +0800, you wrote:

>A newly discovered email virus, VBS.NewLove.A, has just hit USA (May 18,
>2000 USA time). It is an extremely destructive Visual Basic script worm
>that affects Windows 95/98/NT/2000, and like the recent VBS_LOVELETTER
>worm, the virus tries to spam itself to all users in the Microsoft
>Outlook address book.

Thanks for the advice. I suppose that the virus installs itself only when
you "open" the attached file(s), and not when you just read the message.
So, be careful to disable any kind "automatic opening of attachments"
option, and NEVER open such attachments unless you are absolutely sure of
their safe origin (better, use an updated antivirus shield..... meaning
"weekly" updated !)

Roberto (happily living with Eudora & good old Win 3.11.....)





From: Larry Finch <LarryFinch@AOL.COM>
Date: 21 May 2000 07:39
Subject: Re: How to get on origami-l

In a message dated 5/21/00 12:10:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rburt@MEDIAONE.NET writes:

> This may seem like a dumb question but how do I get on origami-l?
>

You are on it. The name changed to "origami" when it moved to the MIT
listserv.

Larry





From: Larry Finch <LarryFinch@AOL.COM>
Date: 21 May 2000 07:41
Subject: Re: don't open this unless you already got a warning from my first

In a message dated 5/21/00 12:28:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 8trak@INDY.NET
writes:

>     i got a message from some router too telling me my message was
infected.
> i did have a virus on my system a couple weeks ago and i thought i had
gotten
> it all cleaned out and taken care of, but apparently it's still on here, it
> can get into my e-mails, and my mcafee virus scanner isn't picking it up.
is
> there something i can do other than reformatting my computer to get this
> taken care of? thanks.. i hope no one thought i did anything on purpose.
> please respond to 8trak@indy.net if you know stuff about computers

The "quick fix" put out by some of the antivirus programs against
vbs.newlove.a caused a lot of false positives, so that may be your problem,
especially if it only started happening Friday. You don't have vbs.newlove.a
if you can still boot your system.

Larry





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 21 May 2000 07:56
Subject: Scottish Paper Airplane Competition

Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM> sez

>        Another Scottish Mini-meeting will take place in Perth on 28th May. If
>anyone wishes further details, reply to me privately. All welcome!

A bit early, but can I also invite any Scottish members to the first
Scottish Paper Airplane Competition, to be held at the Museum of flight,
just outside Edinburgh, 12/13 July - I'm doing some teaching there. More
details on their website, including diagrams for planes -

http://www.nms.ac.uk/flight/index.htm

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    www.britishorigami.org.uk





From: Ho <gmjkho@PRIMUS.COM.AU>
Date: 21 May 2000 09:02
Subject: Welcome --- Malgorzata (Margaret) Skladzien

Welcome to the list --- Malgorzata (Margaret) Skladzien,

Thank you for sharing your interesting origami experience in Poland. This is
a wonderful place to exchange ideas about origami, sharing the fun and
meeting friends from different countries.

I never learned so much about paperfolding before I joined the list.  Thank
you for the person(s) who made this possible.  You  helped to elevate a
humble piece of paper to a respectable level.

Happy folding!

George Ho
Australia

******************************************************
Origami & Mental Health Therapy
 http://go.to/origami
******************************************************

P.S. .......I try to avoid the unnecessary HTML attachments this time.  Hope
it
works........





From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 21 May 2000 09:20
Subject: Origami Sunday

Folding Sunday
(Formerly Folding-Free-For-All)

Origami Sunday will be held next Sunday inRoom 319 at the Museum of Natural
History

Any OrigamiUSA members in or visiting the New York City area on the 4th
Sunday of each month are welcome to join our monthly folding meetings at the

American Museum of Natural History from 1:00 to 4:00 PM.

Please bring folding paper plus something to share. It's especially
appreciated if you
bring a model to teach, but if you're not comfortable teaching yet please
bring something else to contribute such as a model to show that you've been
enjoying folding, an origami book or newsletter others might find of
interest, or paper for the group. We will have a special "sharing table" set

aside for display of models to teach, models to show, books, publications,
and paper contributions.

These monthly meetings are a continuation of the tradition Lillian
Oppenheimer began over 40 years ago of encouraging paperfolders to get
together to teach each other and exchange ideas. OrigamiUSA is able to
provide a meeting space - the rest is up to those attending. When you arrive

at the museum please check at any information desk for the meeting room
number.

The folding sessions are similar to the informal folding at convention.

Note: Due to a heavy work load, I will not make it Origami Sunday this
Month.
         I had notified that I could not attend a month ago. Have fun
folding.

                                   Mark Kennedy





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 21 May 2000 09:37
Subject: Re: [NO] Wscript.KakWorm information

Tommy,
At 01.39 21/5/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Here are some links to information that may help those affected by the
>recent script sent to the list.

Oooops..... now I see that, thanks to a bug in Outlook Express (now
corrected by a Micro$oft patch), there are worms embedded in signatures
which are executed by just reading the message..... not opening any
attachment ! Wow !

Well, one more reason to stay away from Outlook and its relatives.... <;-)

Good luck !

Roberto





From: Alice MacDonald <amacd@BMI.NET>
Date: 21 May 2000 14:28
Subject: {NO} - Would somebody explain yesterday's virus e-mails???

Would somebody please explain (in layman's terms) what happened yesterday on
the list?  Was there or was there not a virus unleashed on those of us with
Mac's (specifically Outlook Express e-mail programs)?
Thanks
Alice





From: Cal faile <calfaile@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 21 May 2000 14:40
Subject: Re: age

>Try these on for size. Some are not as challenging as "Insects" but they'll
>still make your fingers bleed:

Ok, I lied, I've read a few of these.

>1.- Origami: From Angelfish to Zen (Peter Engel)

I finally own a copy of this, after borrowing it from my local library
countless times.  Does anyone know how to keep the paper from splitting
along the crease in the last few steps?

>2.- Origami Sea Life (John Montroll and Robert Lang)
>3.- Origami Sculptures (John Montroll)
>4.- Origami in Action (Robert Lang)

Wish I had a copy of this one.  The "springy thing" was a great hit with my
friends, I was churing them out continuously for a while.

>5.- Origami for the Connoiseur (Kunihiko Kasahara)

I concidered buying this one, but decided against it since I already owned
many of the models.  The ses shells were really cool though!

Thanx, for the websites!  I'll be sure to check them out!

-Calfaile
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From: Larry Wood <origami@TELEPORT.COM>
Date: 21 May 2000 16:33
Subject: Re: {NO} - Would somebody explain yesterday's virus e-mails???

No virus. It was an Active X content issue, which is a part  of the security
settings in both Outlook Express and Explorer.  Go to TOOLS, then go to
OPTIONS, then go to the SECURITY tab.  If you received a warning, your
security setting is probably set at Medium in Explorer and Internet Zone in
Outlook.  You will receive a prompt, before downloading potentially unsafe
content, one of which is unsigned Active X controls.  The warning I received
was that the problem was with an unsafe Active X control and not a virus.
Hope this is helpful.

Larry Wood

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alice MacDonald" <amacd@BMI.NET>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 11:25 AM
Subject: {NO} - Would somebody explain yesterday's virus e-mails???

> Would somebody please explain (in layman's terms) what happened yesterday
on
> the list?  Was there or was there not a virus unleashed on those of us
with
> Mac's (specifically Outlook Express e-mail programs)?
> Thanks
> Alice
