




From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 17 May 2000 23:01
Subject: Re: When was your first time ;) (Was Re: age.)

dan newman wrote:
>
> i started origami to entertain my brother's oldest when she was born, she's 12
> now.
>
> Lar deSouza wrote:
>
> > Hello all :)
> >
> > Here's a variation on the age thread.  When did people start folding? :)
> >
>     I started folding when I was around 4 years old because of my father and
     because of the Shari Lewis shows my mother had my siblings and I watching.
     I have been folding since.

Erralee
> >
> >
"Continental chambermaids
are very hard to shock,
first they wait until your naked
then they enter, then they knock!"

Victor Buono from "It could be verse"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 17 May 2000 23:09
Subject: Re: Will you stay, Erralee?

Ella-mae wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Woodmansee" <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
> Subject: Will you stay, Erralee?
>
> > We'd love to
> > have you carry on in the Bailey name!!
>
> I have to agree, there is something warm, fuzzy and comfortable about seeing
> his name on posts, still.
> email: ella-mae@msn.com

Hi Everyone!
        I plan to carry on the Bailey name and at this time I still
want to leave the email address in his name.  It is comforting
to me too.

Erralee
--
"Continental chambermaids
are very hard to shock,
first they wait until your naked
then they enter, then they knock!"

Victor Buono from "It could be verse"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!





From: Todd Vernon <tvernon@CROSSWINDS.NET>
Date: 18 May 2000 00:54
Subject: Many threads...

Well, let's see how many threads I can attack in this message (as I delurk).

I just about fell out of my chair when I noticed your mention of glassine as
it was the answer a few days back in my Mensa puzzle a day calendar. I had
never heard of the word before (probably why I'm not actually in Mensa). I
even checked the dictionary and couldn't locate what it was.

And then today, the question was Lynn likes paper but not folders...or
something along those lines. It was the first mention of origami (kinda)
that I had noticed in the calendar.

Onto seeing origami in the 'real' world, Tuesday night (my 2nd wedding
anniversary) my wife and I went to see 'Centerstage' and there was a folded
modular unit hanging on one of the dorm room walls.

I thought that while I delurk, I might as well answer a few of the more
recent questions here. I'm encroaching on 29 and did have the gestation
period. I stumbled upon origami in one the Rupert annuals at 8 or 9 years of
age. Took a long time to figure out how to fold the paper boat. It was the
only model I knew (well, ok...except for the paper airplane which every
little boy knows how to fold). At twelve or thirteen, I learned how to make
'A chinese throwing star' which we used to chuck around at each other during
recess. That was pretty much it until university where I discovered origami
again and actually picked up 'The Art of Origami' by Gay Merrill Gross...my
first origami book. Now I'm a full fledged addict. I get nervous without my
paper, kids always ask me 'whatcha doing?' and I get teased at work about
the collection adorning my monitor.

Well that's all for me tonight.

Todd...

P.S. That was fun. Maybe I'll try it again sometime ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Origami Mailing List [mailto:Origami@MIT.Edu]On Behalf Of Steve
Woodmansee
Sent: May 17, 2000 10:02 PM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: odd paper

Sounds like glassine.  I buy mine from Fascinating Folds and it comes in
beautiful translucent colors (yellow, red, pink, green, etc.).  The
Kawasaki Rose looks stunning made from this stuff, IMHO.





From: Larry Wood <origami@TELEPORT.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 01:02
Subject: Re: apology and OUSA stuff

Usually takes about 3 - 4 weeks, sometimes less. It's faster if you order
online, but I'm not sure if they are set up as a secure site yet.  You might
also visit www.kimscrane.com or www.fascinating-folds.com to order supplies.
They have secure sites with good pricing.  I have and do order from all
three.

Larry Wood

----- Original Message -----
From: "david whitbeck" <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 5:11 PM

I'm thinking of buying some paper from OUSA and was
> wondering how long it usually takes.
>
> David





From: "John L. Payton" <John_L._Payton@UP.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 01:27
Subject: Re: When was your first time ;) (Was Re: age.)

I've been lurking for a while; this is my first posting.

Just turned 39.  I don't remember when I started folding paper airplanes, must
have been shortly after starting school.  I found a book - can't even remember
the title now, for shame! - with the waterbomb, the magpie, and a wonderful
multi-stage fold that went from card table, catamaran, wallet, candy box, and
finally chinese junk.  I still use this one as my demonstration piece.  I
managed to get origami banned from the fifth grade by teaching the waterbomb to
practically everyone - not because they were using them as such, just because of
the enormous amounts of "folded litter" that ensued.

The year after that I made my first contribution to the world of folding - a
redesigning of the classic V-shaped paper wad that kids shoot from a rubber band
stretched between two fingers.  Better lift, higher density, more sting.

Two years later I met a model airplane hobbyist, who taught me some interesting
designs for paper planes that I'd never seen before - the cylindrical design,
the shortened dart.  That year I created my second and last design - a paper
airplane, naturally, based upon the shape of a feather.

I hadn't done much of anything else until 1991 or so - shortly after my daughter
was born.  I'm still not sure what rekindled my interest - maybe it was just
self-defense because of all the different crafts and hobbies in which my wife
has great proficiency.  That year every birthday card included a crane - we
collected some interesting good-luck stories in that time.  That christmas we
sent out 200 cards, with a paper puppy in every one.  Since then, of course, all
my restaurant tips are folded.

Currently I'm working on the thousand.  It's a birthday surprise for my wife,
who had coronary bypass in March at the tender age of 38.  I've never designed
any real folds and doubt I have the capacity for it, so I'm one of those who
make origami a craft.

In spite of the fact that I have little to offer, I'm pleased to meet you all.





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 18 May 2000 01:29
Subject: Re: apology and OUSA stuff

Thanks Larry!  Since you've also ordered from fascinating folds and Kim's
crane can you tell me do they have the same time as well?

David





From: Atsina <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: 18 May 2000 01:34
Subject: Re: apology and OUSA stuff

Kim's Crane sends stuff really really fast. Don't know about the other place.
The last time I ordered from Kim's Crane the wait time was days not weeks and it
wasn't that many of them.

(not that) Kim

david whitbeck wrote:
>
> Thanks Larry!  Since you've also ordered from fascinating folds and Kim's
> crane can you tell me do they have the same time as well?
>
> David





From: Spider Barbour <spider@ULSTER.NET>
Date: 18 May 2000 02:46
Subject: De-lurking

Friends ~~
        The threads that bring out lurkers or encourge newcomers to write
are a special treat, and reading their letters is one of the privileges of
being on this list.  John Payton, you have more to offer than you may think,
even if it's just a question or a request for help on a particular model.
My best to your wife -- may she recover completely and quickly.
        Anita F. Barbour





From: Larry Wood <origami@TELEPORT.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 04:02
Subject: Re: apology and OUSA stuff

My experience with both Kim's Crane and Fascinating Folds is FAST service,
max of 1 - 2 weeks.Ordering over the internet really speeds things up.  One
consideration is that Kim's is in the Washington DC area and Fascinating is
in the Southwest, Arizona if I remember right.  Both have a huge inventory
to explore in origami and paper as well as many other areas of interest.  If
you join OUSA you get The Paper which is currently being expanded to 6
issues a year as I recall and a 10% discount on many supplies you can order
from The Source.  You don't have to be an OUSA member to order from the
source, just send a request for a catalog and a couple of bucks to help
cover cost of postage and handling to, The Source, c/o Phyliss Meth, 40-05
166th Street, Flushing, NY 11358, or pop into the web site at
www.origami-usa.org and check out inventory and prices.  All 3 suppliers
have given me great service.  Oh, almost forgot, I always hit www.amazon.com
to check prices on books.  Even with shipping I can often get the best price
there.  Michael LaFosse's new book, Origamido is $24.50 at Amazon and lists
at $34.95 everywhere else.  It's on my want list right now, after all,
Father's Day is coming up soon.

Larry Wood

----- Original Message -----
From: "david whitbeck" <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: apology and OUSA stuff

> Thanks Larry!  Since you've also ordered from fascinating folds and Kim's
> crane can you tell me do they have the same time as well?
>
> David





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 18 May 2000 04:23
Subject: D.Lister. The Yoshizawa Exhibition, Section Three.

D.Lister. The Yoshizawa Exhibition, Section Three.

An Assessment.

I came away from the Yoshizawa exhibition with a new perspective of
Yoshizawa's skills as a paperfolder and with a deeper admiration for his
unique achievement  It is not often realised today just how great was the
revolution that he wrought in the art of paperfolding or just how much the
transformation of paperfolding from the middle of the 20th Century was due to
him. He was self-taught. He devised his own geometrical and folding
techniques and single-handedly transformed Japanese origami from a somewhat
stilted , formal pastime into what is truly an art form. Other folders were
quick to build on the foundations that he laid, particularly by extending the
geometrical complexity of folding, even to the extent of using computers to
assist in the creation of appropriate bases. Other folders have diverged from
Yoshizawa's own folding in other ways. They have used modular and multi-piece
folding, geometrical folding, tessellations, highly complex bases and
"box-pleating" among many other styles,  As the Paris Origami exhibition
showed, the world of Origami is now very wide and diverse and has often taken
directions of which Yoshizawa has made it plain that he strongly disapproves.

Yoshizawa himself  never uses complexity for the sake of complexity or merely
as a dazzling display of virtuosity. All his technique is employed as the
servant of his art and he has steadfastly held on to his spiritual approach
to origami. His own skills and techniques have continued to develop during
his lifetime and we have seen how he has adopted more complex bases which
have enabled him to fold four-legged creatures from single piece of paper and
to give them three-dimensional form and solid backs. He has developed his
wet-folding techniques, too.  All of this has been directed to achieving a
truer likeness and a greater liveliness in his creations.

Yoshizawa fully accepts that whatever technique we use we can never achieve
by paperfolding a truly accurate reproduction of a creature. There has to be
stylisation and suggestion. But given this, it is remarkable how Yoshizawa
brings to life the creature he is folding. He has instructed us to look
closely at an animal to see how it is formed, to see its build, its
underlying skeleton and structure, how its limbs and muscles lie and the
natural poses into which it falls.  He strives to avoid surplus creases and
to ensure that the creases that he cannot avoid emphasise the natural form of
the animal. As a result, his animals and birds have the appearance of life.
More than that, he admonishes us to try to get into the inner being of a
creature, its character, expression, emotions and humour. In other words, he
tries to get into the very spirit of the creature he is folding. It is in
this way  that Yoshizawa surmounts the mechanical technique of paperfolding
and turns folding into art.

The overwhelming impression I have of Akira Yoshizawa is his devotion. I have
slowly become very aware of this over many years. Repeatedly he has said that
he uses his hands to fold in the service of God and he has often says that he
hopes that his folding will help to bring peace to the world. On many
occasions I have seen him pray before settling down to fold, Indeed,
Yoshizawa has said how he studied Buddhism for two years when he was a young
man. But If I had needed any confirmation of his deep and humble faith, I saw
it during our visit to the Kensoin Temple.

For me, my visit to Kyoto has served to increase my understanding of
Yoshizawa's spiritual nature. Above all, Yoshizawa's is a spiritual art,
which has its roots in his deep personal faith. Call it what you will, all
art is deeply rooted in the spirit and if origami is to grow and develop as
an art form, whatever form that may be, it will necessarily follow Yoshizawa
in the approaches and attitudes pioneered by him.

Yoshizawa has steadfastly pursued this personal approach to folding and his
exhibition shows that he has succeeded supremely. Whatever approaches other
paperfolders may have and whatever direction or directions paperfolding my
take in the future, Yoshizawa's personal achievement of eighty-eight years
has been immense. Whether or not origami would have grown and flourished in
the way that it has without Yoshizawa is a matter of conjecture. But the
historic fact is that Yoshizawa did transform paperfolding  and origami will
always have its roots in Yoshizawa's achievement. Akira Yoshizawa has secured
his place as a giant of origami for all time.

Copyright Reserved.

David Lister.

!5th May, 2000.

This concludes my Report on the Yoshizawa Exhibition held to celebrate his
88th Birthday.





From: Bimal Ramesh Desai <desaib@MEDICINE.WUSTL.EDU>
Date: 18 May 2000 05:52
Subject: Re: age

Just when I was starting to feel like an origami veteran of sorts...

Alas, I must confess I'm only 26.  But REALLY, I've been folding since the
age of six.  Twenty years, half a SCORE, one fifth of a century, ten
thirteenths of twice the seventh smallest prime number!  Surely that
constitutes a respectable folding life, no?  Humor me here, people.

By the way, I just bought _Origamido_ and truly dig it.  Strong work, Mr.
LaFosse.

As a second aside, has Eric Joisel published or taught the generic folding
pattern for his faces?  I did a bit of reverse engineering and came up
with what I think is a decent facsimile, though my inept fingers and
general lack of paper finesse prohibit me from attaining the same level of
artistry...  I guess I'll stick with my day job.

-Bimal

===============================================================================

Bimal R. Desai                                               Apartment 508
(314) 361-1500                                      4615 Lindell Boulevard
desaib@medicine.wustl.edu                              St. Louis, MO 63108





From: Paula & Gerard <su008787@WOLMAIL.NL>
Date: 18 May 2000 06:05
Subject: Re: odd paper

David Whitbeck wrote:
> I recently bought a pack of origami paper that was very thin, translucent.
> It felt kind of like wax paper, maybe a little like tissue paper.

and Steve Woodmansee:
> Sounds like glassine.
> Kawasaki Rose looks stunning made from this stuff, IMHO.

I think I have that paper also. It's very strong and perfectly square. It's
Japanese, 15 x 15 cm, 12 colors (bright yellow, deeper yellow, pink, red,
light green, dark green, light blue, dark blue, black, purple, violet and
brown), 48 pieces, costs 200 yen and has a number on it: no. 15-2009. On the
back there are diagrams for a flying object (I think).
Is this the same? I would like to know, because I think it's great paper and
I cannot buy it anymore in this country. I've just visited fascinating
folds, but they haven't got it either (only white, 24" x 36"). But it's
helpfull to know it's English name!

I'm not using this paper much, just because I think it's great. I'm saving
it for special models and occasions. I have made some Magic Rose Cubes of
this, and also the Kawasaki-rose. I was thinking about making miniature
cranes out of it.

Paula from Holland.
http://www.home.zonnet.nl/gerard.en.paula/





From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Friederike=20Noether?= <f_noether@YAHOO.DE>
Date: 18 May 2000 06:20
Subject: Re: gestation

--- david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU> schrieb:
> Speaking of gestation periods: I've found that my skill in folding improves
> over the periods that I don't fold....... When I get back into folding I find
     that my skill and
> patience has improved.

You took the words right ou of my mouth. But I have this "problem" with every
     creative process.
>From time to time I have to take a break and take a step back. It helps me to
     realize mistakes and
find a solution to correct them. Suddenly you have a new sight of what you are
     creating.

>...  I find that I really enjoy folding during the spring and summer, but not
     much in the
> fall and winter.

Jusat the opposit with me. I enjoy origami in Winter and times with bad
     weather. But when it is
hot I dont like to work with paper. Especially when the models are complicated
     and take some time
to fold.
What is your favourite time to fold?
Mine is in Winter and at night. Ok I admit it, I was an owl in my former life ;)

Friederike

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From: Mark Plant <mplant@UK.ORACLE.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 06:22
Subject: Re: age

> Just when I was starting to feel like an origami veteran of sorts...
>
> Alas, I must confess I'm only 26.  But REALLY, I've been folding since the
> age of six.  Twenty years, half a SCORE, one fifth of a century, ten
> thirteenths of twice the seventh smallest prime number!  Surely that
> constitutes a respectable folding life, no?  Humor me here, people.
>

I think you will find that 20 is a WHOLE score !

> By the way, I just bought _Origamido_ and truly dig it.  Strong work, Mr.
> LaFosse.
>
> As a second aside, has Eric Joisel published or taught the generic folding
> pattern for his faces?

Eric attended the April 2000 Convention of the British Origami Society in
Cambridge, where he taught two ways to fold masks, as well as how to
introduce textures such as scales into models. If that was not enough, he
displayed some of his fabulous models, including a number of masks, a
cockerel (which looked like it was made from beaten copper rather than
paper, and a family of hedgehogs.

As part of the convention pack, we were given a specially printed set of
instructions for generic mask construction, with photographs of Eric's very
own hands at work.

I do not know if you would be able to get a copy of the above from the
Society - http://www.britishorigami.org.uk

>I did a bit of reverse engineering and came up
> with what I think is a decent facsimile, though my inept fingers and
> general lack of paper finesse prohibit me from attaining the same level of
> artistry...  I guess I'll stick with my day job.
>

Maybe you have invented something new !

Regards

Mark





From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
Date: 18 May 2000 06:35
Subject: Creativity 2

Hi!

Before I read any further mails I can see I wasn't clear enough in my
question. When I just wrote creativity and not specify creativity it's because
I only have one association to creativity ;)
By being creative I mean people like me who do painting, folding, molding,
weaving and so on and so on... whatever we can get our hands on. I don't do
all these things at the same time, but before I found origami I tried all
those things and because of the little impatience I have I never did them for
long, but I go back to them now and then. My room is filled with paint,
papers, drawing paper and tools and all the stuff I've had my hands on. I have
some need to use my hands/be creative like that. Even if I'm just copying
someone, so for me it's not about doing or inventing new stuff, it's about
just doing something.
And I know people who never fold or paint or draw or weave or anything like
that and it was those people I meant that they don't like to be creative. I
mean you can ask them to paint or draw or something and they won't find any
fun in doing it. So my question again: Why are some people creative and some
not?
Hope that made it more clear :)
                                    Anine

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From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: 18 May 2000 06:37
Subject: Emotional response

In a previous post I wrote:

>>To my horror I find I agree with this too. And so I guess will most of the
>> rest of the origami community.

and Julia (?!??!!???!!!) Palffy replied:

>Why does it horrify you? Why must art be something nobody wants to display
>in their living-room? Why should the function of art be only to puzzle and
>to shock, rather that just to be appreciated? What's wrong with beauty? Why
>should one want to identify with an art establishment which thinks that
way?

Perhaps art (like origami) is too broad a word to use in discussions like
this and we need to clarify what kind of art we are talking about. Origami
is undoubtedly a form of 'popular art' .... but it isn't generally accepted
as 'intellectual art' ... and I think it's this acceptance that we're
talking about. As to why we should want it ... I don't know ... except that
it would give what we do anyway a little more social status, perhaps?

Dave





From: Deb Claypool <dsc-pod@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 18 May 2000 06:43
Subject: Re: Creativity

What makes people creative?  I think self-challengers become creative.
Whether it's creating "from scratch" or taking on a set of directions,
it's a desire to see if one can have personal success at a self-chosen
task.

What makes people not creative?  It must be the reverse.  Maybe some
people are not satisfied meeting their own challenge, maybe it makes
them feel lonely.

Deb Claypool





From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
Date: 18 May 2000 08:39
Subject: Modular origami and BOS Booklets!

Hi everyone!

Yeah sorry it's me again! But this time I won't ask hard questions ;P

First, some days ago I got the 2 BOS booklets I ordered: Booklet 18 Philip
Shen: selected Geometric Paperfolds
Booklet 31 Jeff Beynon More 'igami

and I have to say they are GREAT!!! And they were even cheap!!!
The other day I made the form from Booklet 18 and I really like it :) I also
succeeded in making Dish 1, but I have problems with step 8-9 in dish 2...
I'll keep trying when my patience allow it though.
I do seem to like the Jeff Beynon book even more though. I wanna try all the
models in it :) Which leads to my question: Where can I buy big amounts of
kami or any other kind of origami paper to make modular origami from cheap? It
would be nice if there were not only different colours but also patterned
paper. Even if I have a lot of kami paper I never have enough of one colour to
make colour the combinations I want. Hope you understand what I mean..
How do you solve the problem?
For example if you wanna make a modular model where you need 80 pieces for
example and you'd like to make it in green, blue and red. Where do you get the
paper from?
Hope to hear from you soon :)
                                   Anine

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From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 18 May 2000 08:50
Subject: JOAS and Book Orders

Dear all,

I will be sending another order to Japan soon for Japan Origami Academic
Society (JOAS) membership and subscription renewals ($40/year for six
magazine issues -- Vol. #10 & Vol. #11 same price) and orders for their
Tanteidan Convention Book #5 ($28) and Yamaguchi's latest book "Joyful Life
with Origami" ($19).

If anyone is interested in ordering any of the above, please e-mail me
privately right
away your intent to order and for further information.  Orders will be sent
to Japan later this month.  Next order will be end of NEXT month  :)

Yours,

June Sakamoto
9 Merrill Drive
Mahwah, NJ  07430





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 18 May 2000 08:51
Subject: Re: odd paper

I haven't seen that paper, but by your description, I wouldn't recommend
very complex folds. Maybe a flower or simple butterfly could be quite
beautiful.

JC

-----Original Message-----
From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:51:49 -0400
Subject: odd paper

>I recently bought a pack of origami paper that was very thin, translucent.
>It felt kind of like wax paper, maybe a little like tissue paper.  For
>those who have folded with paper like this, what would you suggest are good
>things to fold with this?  Bad things?  And why?  In other words your
>opinion on the qualities of the paper is asked for.
>
>David





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 18 May 2000 09:00
Subject: Re: apology and OUSA stuff

I've shopped from Fascinating Folds (http://www.fascinating-folds.com) and
they are pretty efficent, not to mention they have an amazing selection of
EVERYTHING. I have a PO BOX in Miami and usually it takes amonth from the
time I order to the time I receive my package. Give 'em a try. I know I'm
trying Kim's Crane as soon as I get my credit card back! (Oh, sorry; here's
Kim's Crane URL: http://www.kimscrane.com).

JC

-----Original Message-----
From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:00:26 -0400
Subject: apology and OUSA stuff

>I want to apologize to people for making it clear several months ago that I
>was going to the PCOC and not showing up at all.  I was busy with finals
>(it was smack in the middle of finals week here at UCD), and I was so
>preoccupied with my schedule (6 upper division classes) that I didn't even
>think about it.
>
>On the second matter: I'm thinking of buying some paper from OUSA and was
>wondering how long it usually takes (I live in California.)  I've bought
>Fuse books from there before but since I had to wait for them to be shipped
>overseas it doesn't really count.  So anyone out there with experience from
>ordering from OUSA have any idea?  I'm thinking of joining OUSA at the same
>time.  It would be good to receive the discounts and the Paper.
>
>David





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 18 May 2000 09:06
Subject: Re: When was your first time ;) (Was Re: age.)

John L. Payton wrote:

>In spite of the fact that I have little to offer, I'm pleased to meet you
all.

Little to offer? Says who? I only have, what, two, maybe three weeks on the
list and I see we all have something to offer. It's because we all have a
different point of view. That's not just enough -- that's a lot. The
pleasure is all mine. I'm glad your wife's feeling better.

JC





From: "Furlong, John T" <john.t.furlong@LMCO.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 09:14
Subject: Re: apology and OUSA stuff (on-line shopping)

On the topic of on-line shops:

I've placed several different orders with Fascinating Folds and have always
received my orders within the week.  If I order on Monday, the package
usually comes Thursday or Friday.  In the United States, they ship their
packages using the US Postal Service's Priority Mail which is a 2-3 day
service.  They also include a nice paper catalog with orders (much better
for browsing then the web, although the web is more up to date and includes
more esoteric material like foreign books which aren't in the paper
catalog).





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 18 May 2000 09:29
Subject: Re: Modular origami and BOS Booklets!

Anine wrote:

>Hi everyone!

>Yeah sorry it's me again! But this time I won't ask hard questions ;P

How come? I welcome the chance to give the brain a jumpstart!

>First, some days ago I got the 2 BOS booklets I ordered: Booklet 18 Philip
>Shen: selected Geometric Paperfolds
>Booklet 31 Jeff Beynon More 'igami

That leads to a question: does the BOS take credit card orders?

> Which leads to my question: Where can I buy big amounts of
>kami or any other kind of origami paper to make modular origami from cheap?

Which leads to my answer: check the other replies on the list today. Try
Fascinating Folds and Kim's Crane. Huge stock, pretty cheap.

Keep those questions coming, it's good for the soul.

!Chao!

JC
____________________________________________________________________
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From: RPlsmn@AOL.COM
Date: 18 May 2000 09:44
Subject: Re: When was your first time ;) (Was Re: age.)

I remember my first contact with Origami was the "Color Changer" or "Salt
Cellar",  in which we second graders, (37 years ago, [you do the Math,])
would write numbers on the four colored triangles, and words on the four
white triangles, and you could pull out the inside surface triangles to read
selected messages:  the holder of the color changer opting whether to count
or spell off the "selection", or open to the message underneath;  implying
that the message to the "selector" was enforced by either fate, or their own
preferences;  making them a true and veritable "butt-head".  Is that Art?
...  or Bullshit?  ...  or Psychology?





From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 09:54
Subject: Papa Joe

Two score or not to score that is the Question!

I guess that would make me two score plus 10.

I want to be Peter Pan when I don't grow up. Thanks to a casual dress code,
I don't have to wear a tie.

Mark Kennedy

>Date:    Tue, 16 May 2000 01:45:17 -0700
>From:    Papa Joe <papajoe@CHORUS.NET>
>Subject: Re: age (Was Re: Origami sigting and a sort of a sighting...)

>One half of 4 score.  ;-)





From: Tina <tinan@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: 18 May 2000 10:14
Subject: AW: D.Lister. The Yoshizawa Exhibition, Section Three.

David,

   thank you for sharing your report. I was wondering if there's any chance
you might put some of the pictures of Yoshizawa's work on the net somewhere?
I'd love to see them!

   Tina

http://www.tinaspages.de   <--- Origami





From: Tina <tinan@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: 18 May 2000 10:21
Subject: AW: Modular origami and BOS Booklets!

JC,

   yes, BOS sure does accept credit card orders - and what's even better,
they're REALLY fast! I once ordered on a Friday, and my package was
postmarked Monday - I'd say that's pretty good:-)

   Tina

http://www.tinaspages.de   <--- Origami

> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Origami Mailing List [mailto:Origami@MIT.Edu]Im Auftrag von Juan
> Carlo Rodrmguez
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2000 15:27
> An: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Betreff: Re: Modular origami and BOS Booklets!
>
>
> Anine wrote:
>
> >Hi everyone!
>
> >Yeah sorry it's me again! But this time I won't ask hard questions ;P
>
>
> How come? I welcome the chance to give the brain a jumpstart!
>
>
> >First, some days ago I got the 2 BOS booklets I ordered: Booklet
> 18 Philip
> >Shen: selected Geometric Paperfolds
> >Booklet 31 Jeff Beynon More 'igami
>
> That leads to a question: does the BOS take credit card orders?
>
>
> > Which leads to my question: Where can I buy big amounts of
> >kami or any other kind of origami paper to make modular origami
> from cheap?
>
>
> Which leads to my answer: check the other replies on the list today. Try
> Fascinating Folds and Kim's Crane. Huge stock, pretty cheap.
>
> Keep those questions coming, it's good for the soul.
>
> !Chao!
>
> JC
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1





From: Erica Knopper <eak@FUTUREXP.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 10:44
Subject: Re: Papa Joe

>Two score or not to score that is the Question!
>

This sounds more like the obsession of testosterone driven teenage
boys than a discussion of age! ;-)

-Erica





From: Spider Barbour <spider@ULSTER.NET>
Date: 18 May 2000 10:50
Subject: Re: odd paper

  If the paper you are describing has a slight pebbly texture, slightly
shiny on one side, matte on the other,  it may be "flower paper."  OUSA has
it for sale -- 6" squares, 50 sheets for $8.75 (plus tax and shipping --  NY
state charges tax on the shipping!  Outrageous.)
        Also, OUSA sells kami in all-one-color packages, 6" squares, 100
sheets for $5.00.
        Sasuga Japanese bookstore sells a "blue box" of 550 sheets, 11
sheets per color of 50 colors, which was $15 the last time I ordered it
(plus shipping.)  It's the best deal I know of, with colors you don't find
in other assortments, like olive green, mustard, goldenrod, coral,
gray-blue, and very pale tints of lilac, pink, and green.

        Flower paper, besides the obvious, is good for small, complex
models, because it is so thin and it creases beautifully.  Bad things to use
it for?  Anything  that requires the suggestion of bulk, like elephants and
hippos!
                Anita

>>origami paper that was very thin, translucent. It felt kind of like wax
paper, >>maybe a little like tissue paper.  For those who have folded with
paper like this, >>what would you suggest are good things to fold with this?
Bad things?
        David





From: Erica Knopper <eak@FUTUREXP.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 11:08
Subject: fathers' day "joke"

In the last few days I had an idea which sort of took on a life of it's own:

I'd seen somewhere a suggestion of making a "box of shirts" by
folding a box and the shirts inside of it. I went to a local re-use
store called "The Scrap Box" where I bought these little gift boxes,
and some wall paper sample books. I took apart the wallpaper books
and folded some shirts with samples that looked like they would make
festive men's shirts, and then layered two or three in a gift box
with tissue paper, just as it might come from a fancy store. It was
so silly it made me happy right away, and I asked my daughter if she
thought the kids in her class (4th grade) would like to make those
for fathers' day. She was quite excited by it, and we brought the
sample gift box to show her teacher, who also thought it was a riot.
This is one of those "gifts" that of course is making fun of the
traditional gift it represents while showing some effort and skill,
so I think fathers in general may enjoy it. The wallpaper samples
also have a different feel to them than other paper so they make the
shirts seem more substantial and convincing.

-Erica





From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
Date: 18 May 2000 11:21
Subject: Re: [Re: When was your first time ;) (Was Re: age.)]

Hi again!

> I remember my first contact with Origami was the "Color Changer"
> or "Salt Cellar",  in which we second graders, (37 years ago,

37 years ago! O_O I'm 21 and we did exactly the same when I was small!

About when I started folding... I remember borrowing an origamibook (origami
made easy? Just remember the cover was a pic of an origami  duckfamily on a
lake and the next book in the serie had a pic of some origami camels in a
desert) at the local library.. I don't remember why I borrowed it.. I guess I
just stumbled on it when looking for craft books (as I mentioned earlier I was
always trying all the crafts/hobbies I could get my hands on) but I didn't
understand the diagrams (I think the text might have been in English and at
that time I hadn't learned English yet) and so nothing happened, but then
about 7? years ago a new neighbour gave me an origamibook (don't remember the
title... the cover was independent pics of models from the book) and a package
of origamipaper for christmas and I've been addicted ever since!
Best wishes,
                 Anine

____________________________________________________________________
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From: Joe Wezorek <joew@DYNAVOXSYS.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 12:38
Subject: [RE:  When was your first time ;)] and a question about a paper

Hey everybody,
        I'm 27 years old. I discovered origami about twenty years ago in a
"Reader's Digest Guide to Crafts and Hobbies" which had about two pages
devoted to the subject. It had diagrams for the traditonal crane, frog-base
frog, and frog-base lily. After that, I picked up a bunch of folds here and
there just through the oral tradition, I guess. It's kind of interesting to
think back on. I think I learned the flapping bird from a girl at these
summer art classes I attended at a convent. She also knew how to make some
kind of a daisy that I don't remember, which in retrospect must have been
folded from the blintz base. I learned various paper airplanes all over the
place -- it's amazing how rich the culture of children is. I remember in
fifth grade I taught a kid I barely knew how to make a certain paper
airplane in exchange for something tangible, I don't remember what it was.
Eventually, (junior high?) I came into possession of "Origami for the
Enthusiast" and "Complete Origami" and it was all downhill from there.
        Anyway, all this reminiscing has caused me to remember one particular
relatively complex paper airplane that I learned from a really unlikely
source, my father. My father is not an arts and crafts sort of a guy but he
knew how to make an airplane from a rectangle of paper that started with
waterbomb-base, had a couple of rabbit-ears in there, and then ended with a
lot of cutting. He says he learned it from an older neighborhood kid when he
was young, maybe in the early 1940's. It's an interesting plane; it flies
well and it looks slightly more like a real airplane than most paper
airplanes.  Below is an attempted ascii art rendering of this airplane as
seen from above:

   ___________
  /           |    _
 /            |  ||
 |\           |    ||
/--\--------------- |
\--/---------------||
 |/           |    ||
 \            |    -
  \___________|

Does this ring any bells in anyone? I'd like to track down the source, if
there is one.

Joe





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 18 May 2000 12:40
Subject: Re: fathers' day "joke"

Congratulations on that idea! I just might use it over here with my old man.
And I'll pass it on to the younger members of my association.

JC

-----Original Message-----
From: Erica Knopper
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:40:13 -0400
Subject: fathers' day "joke"

>In the last few days I had an idea which sort of took on a life of it's
own:
>
>I'd seen somewhere a suggestion of making a "box of shirts" by
>folding a box and the shirts inside of it. I went to a local re-use
>store called "The Scrap Box" where I bought these little gift boxes,
>and some wall paper sample books. I took apart the wallpaper books
>and folded some shirts with samples that looked like they would make
>festive men's shirts, and then layered two or three in a gift box
>with tissue paper, just as it might come from a fancy store. It was
>so silly it made me happy right away, and I asked my daughter if she
>thought the kids in her class (4th grade) would like to make those
>for fathers' day. She was quite excited by it, and we brought the
>sample gift box to show her teacher, who also thought it was a riot.
>This is one of those "gifts" that of course is making fun of the
>traditional gift it represents while showing some effort and skill,
>so I think fathers in general may enjoy it. The wallpaper samples
>also have a different feel to them than other paper so they make the
>shirts seem more substantial and convincing.
>
>-Erica





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 18 May 2000 13:07
Subject: Re: Modular origami and BOS Booklets!

Juan Carlo Rodrguez <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE> sez

>That leads to a question: does the BOS take credit card orders?

We do indeed - you can order online, or offline if you prefer.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    www.britishorigami.org.uk





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 18 May 2000 13:07
Subject: Re: Modular origami and BOS Booklets!

Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET> sez

>Booklet 18 Philip Shen: selected Geometric Paperfolds
>Booklet 31 Jeff Beynon More 'igami
>and I have to say they are GREAT!!! And they were even cheap!!!

>Which leads to my question:

Why hasn't everybody taken advantage of the incredible resource of
unpublished (elsewhere) folding material in the BO booklet series?
They're a handy size, wide ranging in folding approaches and excellent
value for money. Visit the BOS page & click "supplies" for a complete
list of booklets, with reviews and illustrations of the contents.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    www.britishorigami.org.uk





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 18 May 2000 13:24
Subject: Re: fathers' day "joke"

Erica wrote:
> I'd seen somewhere a suggestion of making a "box of shirts" by
> folding a box and the shirts inside of it.  I folded some shirts with
samples that looked like they would make
> festive men's shirts, and then layered two or three in a gift box
> with tissue paper, just as it might come from a fancy store.

This is such a fun idea!

Can anyone tell where to find diagrams for the shirts (book or web
reference)?

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Erica Knopper <eak@FUTUREXP.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 13:50
Subject: Re: fathers' day "joke"

I got the directions I used from this site:
http://www.accessin.com.au/~paris/origami/origami.htm
near the bottom of the page.

>Erica wrote:
>  > I'd seen somewhere a suggestion of making a "box of shirts" by
>  > folding a box and the shirts inside of it.  I folded some shirts with
>samples that looked like they would make
>  > festive men's shirts, and then layered two or three in a gift box
>  > with tissue paper, just as it might come from a fancy store.
>
>
>This is such a fun idea!
>
>Can anyone tell where to find diagrams for the shirts (book or web
>reference)?
>
>Julia Palffy





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 18 May 2000 14:01
Subject: Re: fathers' day "joke"

I know that there are diagrams for a shirt in a book by Gay Merrill Gross,
but I forget the name. I think it's "Paper Projects". It also includes a
koala bear, a gyroscope, the kissing penguins, and some other fun models. I
loaned this book to a friend over two years ago and he still doesn't want to
give it back! Also, Florence Temko includes one in her series of book called
"Money Folding" (at least I think it's by Florence Temko).

There's also a shirt design on Paris' Place (I think it's the same). The URL
is:

http://www.accessin.com.au/~paris/origami/origami.htm

The diagrams for the shirt is at the bottom of the page. There's also some
very original models to make a Nativity scene. This year I'm making mine
from this page!

JC

-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 14:01:32 -0400
Subject: Re: fathers' day "joke"

>Erica wrote:
>> I'd seen somewhere a suggestion of making a "box of shirts" by
>> folding a box and the shirts inside of it.  I folded some shirts with
>samples that looked like they would make
>> festive men's shirts, and then layered two or three in a gift box
>> with tissue paper, just as it might come from a fancy store.
>
>
>This is such a fun idea!
>
>Can anyone tell where to find diagrams for the shirts (book or web
>reference)?
>
>Julia Palffy
>Zug, Switzerland
>jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Arlene Anderson <aanderso@BCPL.NET>
Date: 18 May 2000 16:26
Subject: Origami in Fabric for quilters

I just spotted a a new book in our library called Fantasies & Flowers,
Origami in Fabric for Quilters by Kumiko Sudo. c.2000.  ISBN 0-8442-2666-1

Note that this is a QUILTING book, but it adapts origami for the flower
patterns. Of course, since it is quilting and not three dimensional, the
patterns are adjusted, as are they for fabric instead of paper.

There are many blocks of flowers, and beautifully created pieces. Dream
on, but fun to look at anyway.

Arlene





From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 17:40
Subject: Re: Modular origami and BOS Booklets!

Well -- you'll probably get a gazillion answers to this all saying about
the same thing. Memo pads. They are great. I like the astrobright ones.
They are available just about anyplace that sells office supplies.
Sometimes you have to look at them closely to make sure they are truly
square (sometimes I think they get squiffy when they're being cut). You
can sometimes find memo pads with patterns. I have seen clouds and a
marble look to the paper. I love them for modulars.

Dee

Anine Cleve wrote:
Where can I buy big amounts of kami or any other kind of origami paper
to make modular origami from cheap?





From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 18:28
Subject: Father's day shirt

Erica,

The father's day/tax man's shirt off of your back is a variation on one
designed by Toshi Takahama many years ago.

Marc Cooman had designed another variation of this for a long sleeved shirt.
In Step 2, you fold both the top and the bottom down for collar and cuff.
Proceed with the cupboard door folds in step three. In step four, fold the
collar back as in the diagram; fold the bottom edge up (this is a rat fold
i.e. right about there) and rabbit ear to one side. The diagrams indicated
to the left. Fold the extend rabbit ear in half to "skinny" the sleeve.
Proceed to fold down the corner in step 5. For the final step, fold up the
bottom edge and tuck under the collar, the sleeve is then folded over the
center - just as in the stores.

This make take some adjusting of where to fold  up in step four and where to
place the rabbit ear so that when you fold up in step five the diamensions
of the shirt and selve are correct.
It has been 3/4 of a score since I first saw this diagram - in Dutch.

Mark Kennedy

>Date:    Thu, 18 May 2000 13:49:02 -0400
>From:    Erica Knopper <eak@FUTUREXP.COM>
>Subject: Re: fathers' day "joke"

>I got the directions I used from this site:
>http://www.accessin.com.au/~paris/origami/origami.htm
>near the bottom of the page.





From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 18:41
Subject: Odd Paper

David,

Many years back, I got some paper like you describe with a kaleidoscope
design on it from Lillian. It was 6 inches or 15cm. This paper was called
Stain Glass Window paper, it is translucent and colorful. It also made good
butterflies. I am still hording a few packs.I found them good for Cerceda's
Macaw and other birds. I quarter them for earring size birds. There is a
border around the edge so I make the  one corner where the border meet the
beak and the center of the Mandala the tail. The plastic turns them
translucent when I dip them. It is a wonder effect.

There was also some other similar paper  with large "hippy" designs.
Unfortunately, I think that I have used up my last few sheets of these
patterns. They had started to get brittle and I had to reinforce the stress
points with a bit of tape on the inside of the frog base.

I was also able to get some small white translucent paper with cherry
blossoms lightly printed on them in 3 inch or 7.5 cm.
These made good doves. I still have a few packs that I am hording.

As far as I know all of these papers are from Japan and out of print and
unavailable and I will not pay E-bay prices.

Mark Kennedy

>Date:    Wed, 17 May 2000 17:20:36 -0700
>From:    david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
>Subject: odd paper

>I recently bought a pack of origami paper that was very thin, translucent.
>It felt kind of like wax paper, maybe a little like tissue paper.





From: Charles Knuffke <knuffke@SIRIUS.COM>
Date: 18 May 2000 19:51
Subject: New Origami House Insect Book

Two years ago, at the SEOF convention (I think), I had the opportunity to meet
and talk to Mr. Yamaguchi of Japan's Origami House. At that time, I asked him
about the Japanese Insects that I saw on display at the OUSA convention in NY
several months previous.

Mr. Yamaguchi let me know about a new book that he was editing, which would
include drawings for many of these incredible insect models. He let me know what
he thought the cost would be, and basically I couldn't get the money out of my
wallet quick enough. At that time, he hoped that it might be ready in 9 months
or sooner - Maybe in time for Christmas!

I've seen Mr. Yamaguchi twice since that meeting in Charlotte, and I asked him
about the book both times, trying desperately not to be too much of a pain about
it. Both times, he let me know that it was still in progress, but not to worry,
I was still due to get a copy of the book. However, due to the length of the
book and the number of models, it was no longer going to be a single book. No
matter, I was still sure it would be worth the wait.

Cut to 4 days ago. In my stack of mail was a thin letter from Origami House. I
thought it was a renewal notice, but inside was a cryptic letter that apologized
for printing errors in the new Origami house book, and attached was a sheet that
listed the corrections. First time I ever got the corrections before I got the
book! This really was a tease, since I figured that the book would not be long
in coming.

Today the book finally arrived!

It is very similar in cover and style to Fuse's Origami Mask book, or Issei's
Super Complex Origami. It's title is simply Origami Insects 1, and if there is
an ISBN #, I apologize for not being able to find it. Total length of the book
is 195 pages.

Origami Insects 1 contains models by Fumiaki Kawahata and Seiji Nishikawa, and
they all look to be High intermediate to Complex in difficulty. The drawings are
all in the clear, marvelously detailed style of the other Origami House/JOAS
publications. And of course, there are several small sections of information
that will remain hidden to me because they are in Japanese. However, the drawing
should be easy to follow regardless of the folders native tongue.

The book is divided up into 2 sections based on the creator, and includes the
following models...

Fumiaki Kawahata:
Jambar giant scarab
Jambar giant scarab (updated)
Flying cicada
Neptune giant beetle
Caucasus giant beetle
Golden-ringed (Anotogaster) dragonfly
Japanese Giant grasshopper
Leaf insect
Eupatorus horned beetle

Seiji Nishikawa
Japanese horned beetle (male)
Japanese horned beetle (female)
Asiatic locust
Flying asiatic locust
Long-horned beetle
Lucanus stag beetle
Goliath horned flower beetle
Hercules giant beetle

One interesting addition that I wish more Origami books would include shows up
in Kawahata's section. At the start of every model it shows the ratio of the
initial piece of paper to final model. So if you want a dragonfly exactly 5
inches long, you know where to start. Interestingly, this info does not show up
for the models by Nishikawa (unless it is in Japanese). A crease pattern is also
shown at the beginning of the models for both creators.

The book also has the pages for each model individually "tagged" on the side
edge of the book so it is very easy to find exactly the model you're looking
for, another very thoughtful addition.

Right now the book appears to only be available from Origami House in Japan, but
I doubt that will be the case for very long.

Now if you'll excuse me, there's a Flying cicada with my name on
it..................





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 18 May 2000 20:01
Subject: Re: odd paper

Well Paula it sounds like you have the same kind of paper that I have, but
I have 200 sheets from Kotobuki (they supply all the paper at the store I
go to.)  the Kotobuki number is 810-357.  It's 15 by 15 cm like yours, and
same colors.  It's 10 US dollars.

David





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 18 May 2000 20:03
Subject: Re: Creativity 2

I think that almost everybody likes being creative.  It might not be in
drawing, painting etc., but I think alot of people have something.  For
instance cooking!  I have friends and family that get a great thrill of
making their own recipes up as they go along.  Photography, designing
websites, there's so many different ways to express yourself from the
profound to the absurd.

David





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 18 May 2000 20:03
Subject: Re: Modular origami and BOS Booklets!

Hi Anine!  Think small and you'll find cheap.  1 and 2 inch paper is
amazingly cheap!  Koma makes packages of 2inch of 245 sheets for 2 dollars!
Kotobuki makes 3 inch packages of 55 sheets for a dollar.  What a
difference the size makes.

David





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 18 May 2000 20:09
Subject: Re: AW: D.Lister. The Yoshizawa Exhibition, Section Three.

Hey Tina check out http://www.origamido.com/index.html I believe I saw his
elephants there.

David





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 18 May 2000 20:09
Subject: [RE:  When was your first time ;)] and a question about a paper

Joe I just saw that a few days ago, a friend folded it, let me forward this
to him and see.  If I'm right then it comes from folding a waterbomb base
on rectangular paper.

David





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 18 May 2000 21:18
Subject: Re: New Origami House Insect Book

That books sounds awesome!  I want to ask something for all people on the
list: if you find out information about ordering this book and its
availability would you please pass it on?  Thank you.

David





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 18 May 2000 21:21
Subject: fortune teller (was re:first time)

On Thu, 18 May 2000 RPlsmn@AOL.COM wrote:

> ...open to the message underneath

A couple of years back I used this model in a behavioural management
school, where the messages under the flaps had to be positive messages, or
compliments you would like to give to others (kind of a "words hurt"
idea).

A successful and worthwhile lesson, but I couldn't help inwardly smiling
the whole time as I remembered how opposite my own messages had generally
read as a kid folding this model (and exactly what I was trying to
discourage in this lesson) - "your butt smells", "kiss my butt",
"you're a doodie-head".

Butts and smells were an ever popular insult ;-)

Maybe I can find a nice compromise - "you have a lovely smile...now kiss
my butt".

regards
Michael





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 18 May 2000 21:54
Subject: Re: BOS Booklets!

On Thu, 18 May 2000, Nick Robinson wrote:

> Why hasn't everybody taken advantage of the incredible resource of
> unpublished (elsewhere) folding material in the BOS booklet series?

Certainly an often-overlooked resource, and a shame. Whilst Philip Shen's
booklet is a particular jewel, it is not alone in warranting a mention.
Both Neil Elias and Fred Rohm have sketchbooks published - talk about
complex origami! Forget 150 step insects, try puzzling out one these
models from three drawings showing all the crease lines needed to create a
horse-and-cart. Not to forget Edwin Corrie, Max Hulme, Martin Wall and
David Petty (can you still get these?).

I have also seem some partcularly fine convention books, which would be
worth their price for even 3-4 of the models included.

Then again, maybe it is better to keep these a secret - I don't want the
price driven up ;-)

regards
Michael





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 18 May 2000 21:54
Subject: Kawahata

Does anyone have World's Wild Animals or Imaginary Animals of the World?  I
was wondering how good the models are.  Are the simple, intermediate,
complex?  Are they 3d, 2d?  Are they one sheet?

David





From: Larry Wood <origami@TELEPORT.COM>
Date: 19 May 2000 01:31
Subject: Out of Print, Hard to Find and Used  Source

I don't remember who was recently asking about an older, out of print book.  A
     source I use frequently for used and/or out of print books is
     www.powells.com .  I have picked up a number of books old, used and/or out
     of print, through them.  They will also

Larry Wood
