




From: Sjaak Adriaanse <S.Adriaanse@INTER.NL.NET>
Date: 04 May 2000 13:38
Subject: VIRUS WARNING. This is serious, read this!

Hi everybody,

a very aggressive virus is on the loose in Asia and Europe at this moment.
It is called 'I LOVE YOU'. Do not open attachments coming with mail
messages with the same subject. Reading the message itself is harmless
(unless your computer then opens attachments automatically of course). If
you receive a message with subject 'I LOVE YOU', throw the message and
especially attachments away.

The virus infects Windows computers. It will spread from your computer if
you use Outlook. If you use Windows but not Outlook, it will not spread but
still harm your computer in various ways. If you do not use Windows, you
are out of danger.

If you Windows users have already opened the attachment, you may already
have spread the virus if you were online at the time. If you were not
online, do not attempt to go online anymore. In all these cases: DO NOT
OPEN ANY MORE FILES on your disk (the virus overwrites some program and
data files with itself, but does not change the name). Stop working on your
computer and get an expert.

Do not ask me how to get rid of the virus, I am not an expert.

Hope this will prevent some harm.

Greetings,
Sjaak

Sjaak Adriaanse
---------------------------------------------------------------
Tekst & Uitleg





From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@FANTASYFARM.COM>
Date: 04 May 2000 14:18
Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING. This is serious, read this!

On 4 May 2000, at 19:33, Sjaak Adriaanse wrote:

Just as a footnote to this [from someone who has now gotten over SEVENTY
warnings about this trojan/worm already this morning]:

> a very aggressive virus is on the loose in Asia and Europe at this moment.
> It is called 'I LOVE YOU'. Do not open attachments coming with mail
> messages with the same subject.

THIS IS VERY VERY VERY VERY BAD ADVICE.  You should not open attachments
you don't know a *lot* about **EVER**.  Your warning implies
*exactly*backwards* behavior: that you have a mental list of "these are
dangerous subjects" you should be watching out for and otherwise you're
cavalier about attachments.. VERY BAD IDEA.

Exactly the opposite behavior is what's called for: NEVER open an
attachment unless you absolutely have to, and if you *do*, treat EVERY
attachment, regardless of its source or apparent content, as dangerous.
If you're not *sure*, don't open it...

Getting hit by one of these trojans is a foolish act of self-infection.

  /Bernie\
--
Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
mailto:bernie@fantasyfarm.com     Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 04 May 2000 14:54
Subject: Origami despair?

Hi folks,

I'm curious: what is it that drives you most desperate or crazy while
folding origami? What is it that gets you begging for help, or howling with
rage, or just weeping for sheer frustration?

Or do you think origami is a panacea for peace of mind?

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 04 May 2000 15:17
Subject: Re: Origami despair?

Oh, this is rich! Basically, most really complex models from Robert Lang or
Marc Kirschenbaum make me seriously consider slitting my wrists (and I
really mean that in a good way!). In most cases, it's a move that I can't
accomplish neatly no matter how I try, or simply not at all. I mean, the
diagram looks clear enough, but the actual fold doesn't seem to match!
Points in case: Peter Engel's butterfly, Marc Kirschenbaum's blue crab
(ESPECIALLY the crab!), Robert Lang's dragonfly, butterfly and sea urchin...
Maybe I'm just not using the right type of paper or something. Also, I hate
it even more when it's recurrent, when there is no way I can fold the damn
model no matter how hard I try (RJL's pill bug, dragonfly, butterfly and sea
urchin, PE's Knight on Horseback and Butterfly, and Marc's crab continue to
elude me!). And even more, when I finally do it and my mother throws it out!
(Maarten van Gelder's water lily...)

But yet, I do think folding does bring you peace of mind. To just sit,
listen to your favorite music in your living room or bedroom, and fold away.
Just let your fingers flow through the paper. That gives me authentic stress
relief, almost better than reading a book, as the 27 models in my office can
tell. And hey, as a last solution, crumpling the whole messy thing up and
throwing across the room always does the trick!

-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 15:17:39 -0400
Subject: Origami despair?

>Hi folks,
>
>I'm curious: what is it that drives you most desperate or crazy while
>folding origami? What is it that gets you begging for help, or howling with
>rage, or just weeping for sheer frustration?
>
>Or do you think origami is a panacea for peace of mind?
>
>Julia Palffy
>Zug, Switzerland
>jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 04 May 2000 15:23
Subject: Denver folders

Allen --

Yes there are folders in Denver. I do have a group. I am the only member
of OUSA in the group. I DO put a "little effort" into my group --
including spending several hours a month putting together a newsletter.
I have put up flyers where I can and I make our group known as best I
can at functions that we attend as a group. My membership stays at about
the same 8 people locally. I have sent mailings to people in the Denver
area that are listed as OUSA members informing them of our meetings. No
one bothers to come. There was an OBC winner in Denver several years ago
-- I sent his family an invitation to attend our meetings. No response.
I even asked the OTHER group (I don't know if they are still in
existence at the moment) to join forces -- no one bothered to answer my
phone calls or letters. I do the best I can.

Our group attends three to four functions annually. We generally get one
or two people that attend one or two meetings, then we never see them
again. I don't think it is because I am not a dynamic enough person. I
hold a great meeting. I try to keep models I teach to the level that I
know people can do. I bend over backwards for some of these people...

I can only conclude there just doesn't seem to be an on-going interest
here.

If anyone else in the Denver area would like to start a group, be my
guest. Let me know when you plan on meeting. I would like to have some
of you come to OUR meetings. Email me privately and I'll get you meeting
information...

Dee





From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 04 May 2000 15:38
Subject: Re: Origami despair?

Not being able to "see" exactly how that next step is suppopsed to go.
There is some origami that I can fold and completely relax (modulars,
simple stuff, stuff I can do by heart practically blindfolded). Other
models send me over the edge... the "Jackstone" for about 10 years, just
about anything in "Origami Sea Life"...

Dee

Julia Palffy wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm curious: what is it that drives you most desperate or crazy while
> folding origami? What is it that gets you begging for help, or howling with
> rage, or just weeping for sheer frustration?
>
> Or do you think origami is a panacea for peace of mind?
>
> Julia Palffy
> Zug, Switzerland
> jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Andy Wilson <andy@STARFALL.COM>
Date: 04 May 2000 15:46
Subject: Re: Origami despair?

Julia Palffy wrote:
> I'm curious: what is it that drives you most desperate or crazy while
> > folding origami?

I really, really hate seeing a sheet of nice paper break along crease
lines.  I'm working on largeish tessellations (the sheet starts out as
about 24" square), and sometimes with stiff paper or dense crease
patterns the paper will tear when I'm about halfway through collapsing
it.  _Sometimes_ it's small enough that a tiny piece of scotch tape
will fix the problem without ruining the finish or the collapse.
Usually not.  Usually, about fifteen or thirty minutes later, one of
the main creases will let go and I'll be left with a disaster.

I will, however, admit that crumpling something that large can be
awfully satisfying.





From: "K. A. Lundberg" <klundber@MNSINC.COM>
Date: 04 May 2000 16:01
Subject: May Calendar

Hi All,

The May Calendar is up for those interested. The diagrams for Madame Chance
are taking longer than I expected so this month features two models by Neal
Elias from Secrets of Origami by Robert Harbin.  I also included a link to
my favorite book locator/pricing engine. Enjoy.

Kalei
http://www.kalei.com/origami/calendar.html





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 04 May 2000 16:56
Subject: Request

Hi, people.

Listen, I have a little pet project I've been meaning to make for quite =
a while now. I mean, we've all heard of John Montroll, Robert J. Lang, =
Akira Kurosawa (IS HE STILL ALIVE?), Kunihiko Kasahara, and countless =
others through their books. But I've found some amazing talent in the =
'net of several folders who have yet to be published worldwide =
(excluding the OUSA collection). Therefore, I would like to make a who's =
who of folders on the net, whose work is mostly seen online, whether is =
it pictures or diagramas. I am calling those folders to please send me a =
brief autobigraphy, something I can quote them on, and a picture of them =
and their favorite/most noted original model (no diagrams necessary at =
this point) attached to the message yo my e-mail adress. Once I have all =
the info, I hope to post it on my future website, or if that takes too =
long, I'll send it over to one of your websites, no copyright charges on =
it. I just wish to share what I've seen (I hardly think I've discovered =
them) with the rest of the world. People I'm particularly interested in =
(and there is no particular order in this list):

Anita Barbour
Robin Glynn
Ronald Koh
Marc Kirschenbaum
Jos=E9 Tom=E1s Buitrago Molina
Joseph Wu (of course)
Sy Chen
Jeremy Shafer (although I know his book is coming soon)
Perry Bailey (especially)
Dino Andreozzi
Kalei Lundberg
Anybody else that you can think of.

Do you agree? Do you have any suggestions? Are you interested? I would =
deeply appreciate any feedback.=20

Saludos,
Juan Carlo





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: 04 May 2000 17:21
Subject: Re: Professor Engel, I presume...

At 11:37 AM 5/3/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Whatever happened to Peter Engel?

I remember trying to write to him just after his book was published. I soon
learned he moved off to India on an architecture assignment. Apparently he
has been pretty busy since then. A couple of years ago a model of his
appeared in OrigamiUSA's The Paper, revealing that he has been living in
California and still doing some origami designing. From what little I have
seen, his new work seems much more refined than the stuff he has in
"Folding The Universe" (much of which was produced in his teenage years).
It would be great to see some more published work by him.

Marc





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 04 May 2000 17:23
Subject: Re: Up the creek without a kayak

Scott Cramer wrote:

  Does anyone know of a kayak model that is
> available?

In Harbin's "Secrets of Origami", there is a model by Neal Elias called
"Hiawatha". I know a canoe isn't exactly the same thing as a kayak, but it's
the closest model I know that I can think of...

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 04 May 2000 19:19
Subject: Several threads: Dragon Book & 2 OUSA

Quickly, I was told at PCOC that the Dragon book and PCOC convention book
would be available at the OUSA convention in June. Also there is a volunteer
to teach the Russian Flower ball at convention.

As to the convention deadlines, the little that I know is from going into to
NYC once a month to run the monthly Origami Sundays which is informal
teaching/sharing of models. The mailings are all dumped at the post office
on one day. While logic would predict that NYC ballots would be delivered
more quickly than California, the Post Awful's logic does not necessarily
apply. When I worked in book stores in NJ, I could mail to California at
book rate within 3 days to a week, while NYC was a week to 10 days,
sometimes longer. There is a certain frenzy in the NYC area to return the
registration forms quickly so as to get a low registration number.

Before the mail registration included numbers, the numbers were assigned as
you lined up at the convention doors. Entry was slowed down as everyone
received their registration number. Before that there was a mad dash for the
class selection wall with mad grabs for the coveted tickets to the class. So
much for history.

To try and mitigate the mail proximity advantage, the first week (I am not
sure of the exact time factor here) is thrown into a pool. This means that
your number priorities could be different for Saturday and Sunday. My wife
and I have used the same envelope for registrations and our numbers have
been different over the years. I think that there has been an effort to
ensure fairness in the selection process for class registration priorities.
I think that the methodology is not reported loudly enough and some people
just like to complain.

IF there is a more fair way of distributing the registration forms and
assigning class priority numbers I would like to know. The idea if having
higher fees the later registration came out came from my history in SF
Fandom and the Worldcon. The earlier registration comes in the easier it is
to make plans and assess needs. The "seed" also helps on expenses. In a
certain sense, you can learn most everything taught in the informal after
hours sharing that is taught in class. Mostly, I take classes now to see
teachers style and sense of delivery, so priority ticketing numbers are
mainly bragging rights.

Also, from my Fanish background, I know that it is hard to have a
functioning group. I was in the NYC suburbs of NJ there were two north
Jersey SF groups and two open groups in NYC (plus one closed group for the
elitist). When I saw people looking at the SF books I would tell them about
the local SF groups and when the meet. Most people would respond that I only
read the stuff and am not interested in joining a group. This would be
people with 5 or 10 books in their arms. Sometimes, I could even say that
the author of one of the books would be at the local meeting next Saturday -
nothing.

There are more people reading SF than folding paper. I think of Origami as
participatory fandom. The SF world has many magazines, TV Shows and Fanzine
all talking about the clubs and conventions. It is almost possible to go to
an SF Convention any weekend somewhere in the US. There is a regular
convention circuit on the East Coast: February - Boston; March - NYC area;
Easter - Baltimore; Memorial Day - Washington, D.C.; November -
Philadelphia. There are many smaller conventions. The large conventions have
about 2,000 in attendance and are run by the local clubs. The local clubs
generally have 20 to 50 members. At lot of the convention staff works on all
of the conventions so resources and knowledge is shared. To make the large
conventions work, the convention committee (concom) runs several tracks of
programming to draw in the crowd and cover expenses.

The World Con is held on a rotational basis around the world; east coast,
west coast, middle of the country; and over seas. These Cons are bid on for
several years with a final ballot taken two years before the event. World
Cons also attract over 10,000 attendees.

My vision when I was on the board that our regional groups would one day
expand to start running mini conventions. I started that at libraries in NJ
and have continued that at my home. When I was doing these in NJ, I would
send out flyers to the NJ members and post a flyer in the office and if
there was time in the newsletter. If the meetings were open to the public
and free, I could get the library space for free. I would get 50 to 70
people to come to a library for a day of folding. I would open a half after
the library and close an hour earlier. My total cost was under $30 for the
mailing. I am not big on organizational things. It worked.

I think that OUSA works because we have a central location that pulls in
regular volunteers. The continuity is essential for organization. I think
that loyalty to the organization grows from interpersonal contacts made. I
have benefited from being able to meet with people who have come to the US
and want to stop at the home office while they are visiting the
neighborhood. With perks like that also have come the extra responsibilities
of the work. I feel as if there are lots of people who I don't even know who
toil daily at the office to make sure things work. I think that they deserve
our support not rock throwing.

Time to get back to work, I have a deadline at the end of the month and am
working too many hours.

I will not make the May Origami Sunday.

Mark Kennedy

"That's why they call it a deadline and not a funline."
                                             Joe Douress





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 04 May 2000 20:05
Subject: Re: Origami despair?

> What is it that drives you most desperate or crazy while folding origami?

Reaching the final stages of a model and reading the words add glue or make a
small cut...

> What is it that gets you begging for help, or howling with rage, or just
weeping for > sheer frustration?

1. Those damned inconsiderate authors who dont write their books in English ;
)

2. Delivery times longer than 5mins for books

3. A certain insect book (^_^)

4. Anyone who says "If you made lots of those they would make great christmas
tree   ornaments".

>  Or do you think origami is a panacea for peace of mind?

Its helped me to retain my sanity while others loose theirs (Usually
wondering where I suddenly found the paper to make all those squirrels... and
where all of the notes from the meeting went...)

C'ya
Dave





From: Atsina <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: 04 May 2000 20:14
Subject: Re: Origami despair?

> > What is it that drives you most desperate or crazy while folding origami?
>

Step 100. Unfold the model back to Step 3.





From: Phil Schulz <fyl@USWEST.NET>
Date: 04 May 2000 22:26
Subject: Southwest designs?

Are there any Southwest-themed designs available online, anywhere?
(That's Southwest US, Arizona desert, by the way...)  Ideally, a howling
coyote, or roadrunner would be perfect, or maybe a saguaro cactus?  A
friend at work is retiring on the 19th, and she has decorated her house
in that theme.  People at work were very impressed with a Kawasaki rose
I had given someone else, so now I have expectations to live up to. . .
.

I'm having some trouble in creating a couple designs myself, (despite my
wife's firm belief that all she has to do is ask me for something, and
magically it appears :-) ) so any help would be appreciated...

TTFN,
Phil
--
FyL@uswest.net
Animal Stories and Star Wars Origami at:
http://fyl.xymox.net/





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 04 May 2000 22:53
Subject: Re: Southwest designs?

On Thu, 4 May 2000, Phil Schulz wrote:

> Ideally, a howling
> coyote, or roadrunner would be perfect, or maybe a saguaro cactus?

Coyote - the new Montroll book "Bringing Origami to Life"
Roadrunner - seem to remember one from Origami Zoo (Robert Lang and
Stephen Weiss), and another - maybe Montroll?
Cactus - again, I think there is a Montroll model - a stab in the dark and
I would guess North American animals?

Memory failing at this point.....

regards
Michael





From: dan newman <dnewman@CAPITAL.NET>
Date: 04 May 2000 23:01
Subject: Re: Origami despair?

i've been working on montroll's brontosaurus for over a year, hate that model.

Julia Palffy wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'm curious: what is it that drives you most desperate or crazy while
> folding origami? What is it that gets you begging for help, or howling with
> rage, or just weeping for sheer frustration?
>
> Or do you think origami is a panacea for peace of mind?
>
> Julia Palffy
> Zug, Switzerland
> jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Elaina Quackenbush <elaina_quackenbush@NETZERO.NET>
Date: 04 May 2000 23:25
Subject: Re: Origami despair?

>>
>> I'm curious: what is it that drives you most desperate or crazy while
>> folding origami?

usually the semi circle of kids sitting in my front yard asking a million
and one questions...

What is it that gets you begging for help, or howling with
>> rage, or just weeping for sheer frustration?
>>
Multi folds that I have to precrease and then sit and cuss alot while I try
and figure out how they go

>> Or do you think origami is a panacea for peace of mind?
>>
>> Usually, if between spouse and child, I can find 10 min to fold, it's
great for that.

Elaina
being terribly tounge in cheek on no sleep today

_____________________________________________
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From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 04 May 2000 23:53
Subject: kawasaki help

Greetings all,

Didn't you think it was about time this subject reared its head again?

No, I'm not asking for help, I'm offering it. It seems a general consensus
that this model is best learnt from another folder - in person. Now while
I would be willing to offer to teach this model to anyone willing to fly
me over ;-), I hope the next best thing may be if I can send an example of
the model at a couple of the crucial stages to help through the tricky
bits.

If help is needed (now or in the future), people can write to me for an
address, and then send a stamped self-addressed envelope to collect their
examples. Standard post for a letter is $AUS1.50, as long as you don't
mind the model/s being a little squished. Otherwise, include a bigger
envelope with a little more postage. Details can be sorted out at the
time.

I'm not asking for money!! Just a bit of (global) community service....

regards

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Michael Janssen-Gibson                 e-mail: mig@isd.canberra.edu.au
ISD, Library                    phone/voice mail: +61 6 (02) 6201 5665
Communication & Education                    fax: +61 6 (02) 6201 5068
University of Canberra
PO Box 1 Belconnen, ACT 2616

University of Canberra - 30 years making the difference





From: Ron Arruda <arruda@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Date: 04 May 2000 23:55
Subject: Re: Origami despair?

I'm most over the edge when i can't figure out if the diagam is drawn
incorectly, or if it's just my bone-headedness that won't let me
understand what I'm looking at. I oscillate between these views of reality.

Ron Arruda





From: Ron Arruda <arruda@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Date: 05 May 2000 00:48
Subject: Re: Several threads: Dragon Book & 2 OUSA

Mark,

Thanks for your practical perspecive on conventions, meetings, and the
continuing work you've done for OUSA. Hearing of what another set of
clubs (Sci Fi) is like is very instructive.

Ron Arruda





From: Michael Antonette <mylor@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Date: 05 May 2000 00:59
Subject: Re: Southwest designs?

   Hi Phil,

   You'll find that Montroll's 'North American Animals in Origami' has a
Saguaro Cactus, a Roadrunner, and a Coyote (not a howling one, however;
can't recall seeing one anywhere, but hmmm.... maybe a project in
conversion?;).  The cactus is pretty neat, and open to lots of variation.
I'm sure the roadrunner could be easily altered to be running rather than
standing, as well.

   Hope this helps!

                                  Michael

"The great square has no corners." -- Lao Tzu
mylor@telusplanet.net





From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: 05 May 2000 01:04
Subject: ori sighting

I saw a slightly unusual use of origami flapping birds on the news a couple
of evenings ago.  It is the second (I think) anniversary of the Port Arthur
shooting (when a young man shot a number of people at a historic colonial
prison in Tasmania, Australia).  While dedicating the memorial, white
origami birds were floated on a memorial pool - I imagine representing each
of those people slain or injured.  It was very moving in the low light with
these white birds floating across the water.

We did also see the President filling in his valuable time......

AND to my amazement, I have seen 4 copies of ORIGAMIDO in our local shops -
mind you, the covers were all so tatty I insisted on a discount....... and
got it ;-)  If the other four copies get remaindered, I'll get one for our
local library which has NO origami books, even through ILL!

As to origami frustration......just finding some time to fold is my biggest
one!!

All hail from the land of Oz!

Clare





From: Tom May <MayTom431@AOL.COM>
Date: 05 May 2000 04:22
Subject: Re: Origami despair?

Dear Julia,

Usually, folding helps me keep calm and tranquil, but on some occasions I've
been known to lose my cool, such as constructing a modular sphere with
hundreds of units and running out of the paper for the squares when it's 90%
complete and losing the supplier for said paper and not being able to find
another. The other instances are very similar to some already mentioned.

Happy folding, Tom May





From: Tom May <MayTom431@AOL.COM>
Date: 05 May 2000 04:22
Subject: Re: Up the creek without a kayak

Dear Scott,

Your request for a kayak got me to fiddling and I devised a kayak as a dollar
bill fold. I'm currently diagramming it. E-mail me if you're interested.

Happy folding, Tom May





From: Michael Antonette <mylor@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Date: 05 May 2000 04:22
Subject: Re: Origami despair?

> I'm curious: what is it that drives you most desperate or crazy while
> folding origami?

I agree with the "Step 100: Unfold everything to Step 3"; oh, and I usually
feel that when someone (Montroll, for example) says (in the instructions):
"This next step is the most difficult in the model...", that they were
probably giggling with insane glee at the thoughts of all the groans THAT
line would elicit...

 > What is it that gets you begging for help, or howling with
> rage, or just weeping for sheer frustration?

After an hour (or whatever) of patient folding, creasing, reversing creases,
and I get to a crucial collapse and the paper tears because of "folding
fatigue"...

> Or do you think origami is a panacea for peace of mind?

This, actually, I heartily agree with, all joking (or griping) aside. I find
that even the most nerve-wracking folding still calms me, contradictory
though it sounds. A patience builder (the gods know that patience isn't my
middle name...), and a good meditation exercise as well.

                                     Michael

"The great square has no corners." -- Lao Tzu





From: Allen Parry <parry@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: 05 May 2000 04:38
Subject: Re: Denver folders

Where do you have your meetings?

It is important to have your meetings in a public place.  People are
intimidated going into a stranger's home.  We were renting a place in a
Community Center, which was excellent.  Now, I believe they are meeting in
a Mall (that provides a vacant store front free as a community service).

Do you try to meet on a regular basis?  When?

Meeting regularly is important.  People don't always pay attention to
changes in the meeting times.  If you're consistant, people will
eventually show up.

Seattle has been in touch with over 200 folders in the area. The ORCA
convention had a some to do with that.  It started with four, but
blossomed.  The group is advanced.  We find people rise to the teaching
level and learning new things keeps them coming back.  I would say the
more advance folders tend to be more committed (they've already made a
committment to the art).  So, I'd suggest not being afaid of teaching the
more challenging models.  The last meeting, I attended in Seattle, the
class was on wet folding technique. This may not work for all groups, but
it is worth a try.

One thing that I suggest is a regular mailing to the people you know in
the Denver area.  We did that in Seattle.  With some, it took up to six
mailings before they showed up.  Some of them are our most active people.
Also, don't be afraid to call.  I find most folders are excited to talk
with someone else who shares their passion.  A warm welcome over the phone
helps break the barriers of showing up to a place where you don't know
anyone.

Another thing tried, I think in Arizona (Is that right Doris?) was they
had business cards made up with a contact phone number and their meeting
time and place.  Business cards can be made cheaply. Anyway, they went to
the bookstores and libraries and put them into the origami books.  I guess
this was a real success for them.

Also it doesn't hurt to put some origami models on display in some of the
bookstores, with notices of your meetings.  Bookstores like displays that
will encourage people to buy a book.

The different affiliate leaders talk and we trade information on what
works.  We are more than willing to help out others.

Hopefully these starters will help.  If you need/want more help, let us
know. If you can give us some more particulars, we may be able to help you
further.

If there is anyone else out there who is interested in getting a group off
the ground and would like our help, please e-mail me.

Allen Parry
parry@eskimo.com





From: Mathieu Ciarlet <mciarlet@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 05 May 2000 04:44
Subject: ISBN

Does anyone know the ISBN for "Origami Fantasy" ?

please let me know

Mathieu
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From: Leong Cheng Chit <leongccr@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 05 May 2000 04:48
Subject: Re: Penrose Tiles

Dennis Walker on May 02, 2000 wrote:
>
> Inspired by Leong Cheng Chit, I have managed to fold the two tiles (kite
> and dart) required for Penrose Tiling. I'll get diagrams together
sometime.
>
> I'm not overly happy with them as I would like to have locking versions,
> but I'll post the diagrams in the hope that someone else (more
experienced
> in creating modulars) can provide the missing bits.
>
Anybody else who would like to have a go at folding the Penrose tiles can
get the diagrams for folding the platinum rectangle from:
http://www.paperfolding.com/chengchit

Happy folding!

Cheng Chit





From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Friederike=20Noether?= <f_noether@YAHOO.DE>
Date: 05 May 2000 05:35
Subject: Re: ISBN

--- Mathieu Ciarlet <mciarlet@HOTMAIL.COM> schrieb:
> Does anyone know the ISBN for "Origami Fantasy" ?

It doesn4t have one. Just checked mine. Sorry.

Friederike

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From: Sf2p4 <Sf2p4@BMW.DE>
Date: 05 May 2000 05:46
Subject: Antwort: ISBN

Sorry, AFAIK Origami Fantasy doesn't have an ISBN. It might also be out of
print.

    HTH, Tina





From: "Tomlinson, Kristine" <ktomlinson@CONCORD.COM>
Date: 05 May 2000 06:50
Subject: 1836 American Origami Reference

Hi,

Here's another find for you origami historians.

The reference is in a newspaper article called "Extraordinary Exhibition of
the Works of Nature and Art! Master Sanders K.G. Nellis, born without arms"
The Salem, Massachusetts newspaper is unnamed, but the article is circa
January 29, 1836.  The actual paper is in the collection of the Essex
Institute, Salem, MA.

The article is reproduced on page 175 of Priscilla S. Lord and David J.
Foley's book "The Folk Arts and Crafts of New England", Philadelphia and New
York: Chilton Books, [c1965].  Mr. Nellis gave at least two performances
consisting of seven different parts at Washington Hall. The second part is
of folding interest:

"2nd, He will make a Paper Fly Box and fold a Letter in the True Love
style."

So, we know the balloon was known in the US in the 1830s. As for the letter
'in the true love style' -- this could be anything including a knotted
letter, but I'm voting for my personal favorite: the puzzle purse (known as
the thread container in Japan).

Kristine Tomlinson

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 05 May 2000 08:26
Subject: Re: Professor Engel, I presume...

Hi, Marc, thanks for answering back. What model was that? And do you know if
he can still be contacted?

By the way, how's YOUR book going?

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 08:26:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Professor Engel, I presume...

>At 11:37 AM 5/3/00 -0400, you wrote:
>>Whatever happened to Peter Engel?
>
>I remember trying to write to him just after his book was published. I soon
>learned he moved off to India on an architecture assignment. Apparently he
>has been pretty busy since then. A couple of years ago a model of his
>appeared in OrigamiUSA's The Paper, revealing that he has been living in
>California and still doing some origami designing.





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Carlo_Rodr=EDguez?= <tciprograming@TELCEL.NET.VE>
Date: 05 May 2000 08:51
Subject: Re: Southwest designs?

Hey, Phil. By the way, GREAT website! Nothing is cooler than joining my two
loves into one: Star Wars and origami! By the way, I could use a Darth Vader
in origami, but I just can't seem to create it yet... ;-)

As for Southwestern, I confirm whay everybody has already told you:

HOWLING COYOTE: John Montroll's latest, "Bringing Origami to Life".

ROADRUNNER: John Montroll's "North American Animals in Origami". Also has a
non-howling coyote. There's a running roadrunner in R.J. Lang's and Stephen
Weiss' "Origami Zoo".

CACTUS: There is a saguaro and a prickly pear  (?) cactus in "North American
Animals".

Enjoy!

JC

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Schulz <fyl@USWEST.NET>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 08:51:56 -0400
Subject: Southwest designs?

>Are there any Southwest-themed designs available online, anywhere?
>(That's Southwest US, Arizona desert, by the way...)  Ideally, a howling
>coyote, or roadrunner would be perfect, or maybe a saguaro cactus?  A
>friend at work is retiring on the 19th, and she has decorated her house
>in that theme.  People at work were very impressed with a Kawasaki rose
>I had given someone else, so now I have expectations to live up to. . .
>.
>
>I'm having some trouble in creating a couple designs myself, (despite my
>wife's firm belief that all she has to do is ask me for something, and
>magically it appears :-) ) so any help would be appreciated...
>
>TTFN,
>Phil
>--
>FyL@uswest.net
>Animal Stories and Star Wars Origami at:
>http://fyl.xymox.net/
