




From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 14:41
Subject: Re: Paper Packet diagrams

Yes -- makes me crazy! I bought a pack of paper that had some great
penguins and some other creatures on it... the only digrams included
were the penguins (which were of the fold the paper diagonally and then
fold down thw wings and head variety.... sigh) I would imagine that if
one were really creative person rather than a great direction follower,
I might be able to figure them out....

> BTW, has anyone ever noticed that with some brands of Origami paper there>
     are models shown on the packaging that are not included on the instruction
     sheet within?





From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 14:41
Subject: Re: Working with Chiyogami Papers

A friend of mine recently acquired a duplicate book called Origami
Dolls, and let me purchase it from her. Wow! I now know what to do with
all MY chiyogami! These dolls, while some may not consider them "true"
origami are absolutely gorgeous! They are similar to the little dolls we
are all probably familiar with that wear kimonos and have crepe paper
hair... but WAY more involved! The pictures alone were worth the price
of the book! The different presentations.... beautiful! I don't read
Japanese, so I can't give you an srtist's name, but the ISBN is:
4-8347-1239-7 and she bought it from Kinokuniya.

It seems as though the directions are clear - even the proportions of
paper that you need... I will have to figure out from inference and
pictures what exactly is what... but that is part of the fun, eh? ;-)

Dee

Jeadams1@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> I have a nice supply of chiyogami papers (150mm squares) that I use to make
> modular boxes. Ignoring the fact that the paper can be soft and, as a result,
> a little difficult to use for making complex models, what other kinds of
> subjects look nice when made from chiyogami? Simple models, like waterbombs,
> look good, but animals (with a few exceptions) seem to come out too busy
> looking for my taste. That's really is the nub of my question: Which models
> benefit from being made from "busy" papers?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jim
>
> http://members.aol.com/jeadams1/origami.html





From: Lar deSouza <fresco@SENTEX.NET>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 17:00
Subject: Re: Working with Chiyogami Papers

Dee,

>A friend of mine recently acquired a duplicate book called Origami
>Dolls, and let me purchase it from her. Wow! I now know what to do with
>all MY chiyogami!

I can totally second this book! :)  It's one of my favourites.  My wife and
I are doll collectors and I have made several of these that I've mounted
and given away as gifts :)  I've done a little online research to figure
out who is what, so drop me a line if you'd like me to share what I know.

On another topic, I'm totally fascinated that since joining this list
recently, I've been hit with several topics which reflect what I've been
doing.  I just bought some new chiyogami paper a couple weeks ago and was
flipping through my books for designs to use them up on when BANG! this
thread starts :)  I had been folding some of them into kimonos and BANG
that other thread started :)  You're reading my mind, people, and I don't
know whether to be freaked by it, or totally reassured.  I'm aiming for the
latter though ;)

Later!

Lar





From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 15:05
Subject: sharks

Hi!

I need an easy (teachable to small children) shark. There is a good one
in the new Biddle book, but I would like it to be one piece (cuts down
on the amount of paper I have to buy... :-)

I found a some in my library, but they are all really hard. Anyone have
on on a web site?

Thanks!

Dee





From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 15:06
Subject: Jeremy's book

Anyone have the scoop on Jeremy's book? They keep telling me it hasn't
been published, but, according to the last newsletter from Jeremy, it
was going to the press then!

Dee





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 18:27
Subject: Re: sharks

>>X-Sender: "Dee and Bob" <deenbob@pop.ecentral.com> (Unverified)
>>Subject:      sharks
>>
>>I found a some in my library, but they are all really hard. Anyone have
>>on on a web site?

I'd recommend the one in Kasahara's Creative Origami. Very simple (no
lower lobe of caudal or pectoral fins), but easy and quite convincing.
Another, a little bit more complicated, can be found in Momotani's
Origami Fish.
Then there's Kasahara's intermediate model in Origami Omnibus (very
good appearance/complexity ratio) IMHO copied in Stoker's Fantastic Folds.
Probably you know (and discarded) Montroll's blue shark in Origami
Sea Life and.

But since you asked for a web site, check the AEP (www.publynet.com/aep)
for Fernando Gilgado Gomez's model. It's intermediate (starting from
a stretched bird base) and gets a bit thick int the tail, perhaps
too complex for little children.
There's JWu's great white in his site, but it's even more complex...

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Wendi Curtis <rebelgami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 15:55
Subject: Re: Working with Chiyogami Papers

This book can be purchased from Kim's Crane, http://kimscrane.com.
WC

>From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Working with Chiyogami Papers
>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:41:54 -0700
>
>A friend of mine recently acquired a duplicate book called Origami
>Dolls, and let me purchase it from her. Wow! I now know what to do with
>all MY chiyogami! These dolls, while some may not consider them "true"
>origami are absolutely gorgeous! They are similar to the little dolls we
>are all probably familiar with that wear kimonos and have crepe paper
>hair... but WAY more involved! The pictures alone were worth the price
>of the book! The different presentations.... beautiful! I don't read
>Japanese, so I can't give you an srtist's name, but the ISBN is:
>4-8347-1239-7 and she bought it from Kinokuniya.
>
>It seems as though the directions are clear - even the proportions of
>paper that you need... I will have to figure out from inference and
>pictures what exactly is what... but that is part of the fun, eh? ;-)
>
>Dee
>
>
>Jeadams1@AOL.COM wrote:
> >
> > I have a nice supply of chiyogami papers (150mm squares) that I use to
>make
> > modular boxes. Ignoring the fact that the paper can be soft and, as a
>result,
> > a little difficult to use for making complex models, what other kinds of
> > subjects look nice when made from chiyogami? Simple models, like
>waterbombs,
> > look good, but animals (with a few exceptions) seem to come out too busy
> > looking for my taste. That's really is the nub of my question: Which
>models
> > benefit from being made from "busy" papers?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > http://members.aol.com/jeadams1/origami.html

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From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 09:45
Subject: Re: Working with Chiyogami Papers

On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Dee and Bob wrote:

> A friend of mine recently acquired a duplicate book called Origami
> Dolls, and let me purchase it from her.

The book is titled:

Origami Dolls Representing Japanese Tradition - Origami Ningyo
Publisher: Boutique Sha Binding

Toshie Takahama featured some wonderful 2D dolls (the "poets"?) in her
second of the series Creative Life with Creative Origami. The dolls are
made of many layers of paper, folded as one, but slightly offset to show
the various colours/patterns used.

regards
Michael





From: Cathy <cathypl@GENERATION.NET>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 20:50
Subject: Re: Perry Bailey

At 09:59 AM 09/04/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>I am stunned. I didn't know Perry except through his postings on the
>list and through his website.
>
>We'll all miss him.
>
>Dee
>
>

I hadn't checked my e-mail for a week, and I am really stunned by this
news.  I had exchanged messages a few times with Perry because we had
similar interests, esp Sci-fi models and dragons.  I am finding it hard to
deal with his passing, we never met and like you I only knew him via the
web.  The last time I wrote to him was to ask him help with the Enterprise
model--he kindly sent me a photo of the model viewed from above to help me.
 He was generous, too, giving me permission to photocopy and teach his
models to my friends in sci-fandom.

Will anyone on the list be able to take on some  of his webpage?  It would
be sad to lose this resource.  Maybe something could be done as a memorial?

                                        Cathy

******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 18:47
Subject: Re: The Horse

i wonder when i will receive my copy of issue #60 =-I

>From: Mike Wareman <mwareman@ADMIN.OLDSCOLLEGE.AB.CA>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: The Horse
>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:42:22 -0600
>
>Hello Fellow folders:
>
>I am working on the horse model from issue #60 of the JOAS magazine.  I am
>stuck on step 79.  Do I try and get that fold back to what it was in step
>45?  Or do I fold using the creases from step 45?  Do I just mountain fold
>the layers or is there some sort of pinching procedure?  As you can tell I
>am not quite sure what needs to be done.  I sort of just folded and
>squished the paper based on the creases from step 45.
>
>Thank you for your help,
>Mike,
>
>
>
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>
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From: CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 20:34
Subject: Re: Kawahata Diagrams

LOL  HAHAHAHA
----- Original Message -----
From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 10:18 AM
Subject: Kawahata Diagrams

> I am getting fed up with people asking for copies of diagrams from
'Origami
> Fantasy' by Kawahata. As a result, I have scanned all of 'Origami Fantasy'
> and placed the diagrams on my website. Click on the 'Kawahata' button to
see
> them. I'm sure Mr Kawahata won't mind, if it frees up my Inbox a little.
>
> On my Animals page, I've also put up a diagram from a friend of mine,
Odolaf
> Shubtill, of his stunning 'Poisson d'Avril'.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Stephen
>
> Dr Stephen O'Hanlon MA(oxon) MB.BChir(cantab)
> Origami Web page  - http://www.geocities.com/paperfolder.geo
> Visit this site!  - http://www.thehungersite.com
>
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From: CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 20:48
Subject: Re: Kawahata Diagrams

LOL  HAHAHA
----- Original Message -----
From: <slickwillie@MYLAPTOP.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kawahata Diagrams

> Yes I really liked Origami Fantasy diagrams you posted up on your
> website.  Maybe you could also scan a few more books and put
> the diagrams there also.
>
> > I am getting fed up with people asking for copies of diagrams from
'Origami
> > Fantasy' by Kawahata. As a result, I have scanned all of 'Origami
Fantasy'
> > and placed the diagrams on my website. Click on the 'Kawahata' button to
see
> > them. I'm sure Mr Kawahata won't mind, if it frees up my Inbox a little.
> >
> > On my Animals page, I've also put up a diagram from a friend of mine,
Odolaf
> > Shubtill, of his stunning 'Poisson d'Avril'.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > Dr Stephen O'Hanlon MA(oxon) MB.BChir(cantab)
> > Origami Web page  - http://www.geocities.com/paperfolder.geo
> > Visit this site!  - http://www.thehungersite.com
> >
> > Phone : 0118 969 4644
> > Mobile: 0771 327 8855
> >
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From: CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 20:51
Subject: Re: [Re: Kawahata Diagrams]

JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS THERE ARE   " NONE"
----- Original Message -----
From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: Kawahata Diagrams]

Hi!

I can't find the Kawahata buton :((((  I've tried to refresh in both
Netscape
and Explorer but no Kawahata button pops up!
Heelp!
          Anine

slickwillie@MYLAPTOP.COM wrote:
Yes I really liked Origami Fantasy diagrams you posted up on your
website.  Maybe you could also scan a few more books and put
the diagrams there also.

> I am getting fed up with people asking for copies of diagrams from
'Origami
> Fantasy' by Kawahata. As a result, I have scanned all of 'Origami Fantasy'
> and placed the diagrams on my website. Click on the 'Kawahata' button to
see
> them. I'm sure Mr Kawahata won't mind, if it frees up my Inbox a little.
>
> On my Animals page, I've also put up a diagram from a friend of mine,
Odolaf
> Shubtill, of his stunning 'Poisson d'Avril'.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Stephen
>
> Dr Stephen O'Hanlon MA(oxon) MB.BChir(cantab)
> Origami Web page  - http://www.geocities.com/paperfolder.geo
> Visit this site!  - http://www.thehungersite.com
>
> Phone : 0118 969 4644
> Mobile: 0771 327 8855
>
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From: CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 21:59
Subject: Re: Pooh & Patricia Crawford

WHEN SOMEONE BECOMES SUCCESSFUL ITS NOT FAIR TO MAKE THEM QUITE. RATHER
,THEY SHOULD ENCOURAGE THEM . IT ONLY BENEFITS EVERYONE AS A WHOLE IN LIFE.
AND  ALL MORE HAPPY LIFE ....
----- Original Message -----
From: Kennedy, Mark <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 4:41 PM
Subject: Pooh & Patricia Crawford

> The BOS booklet by Anthony O'Hare has a lovely Pooh Bear. It is a side
view
> from a fish base. I am not sure if it is still in print.
>
> From Lillian, I had learned that Pat Crawford lead a very creative live in
> origami but her husband made her quit.
>
> She then turned to making ships in the bottles until her fame grew too
great
> there as well. He also made her give that up as well.
>
> Lillian explained this all away as this was a different time when wives
were
> subservient to their husbands.
>
> I suspect that Jay Nolan contacted her to publish her unicorn in his book
so
> she still must be around.
>
> It would be good to see her at a convention.
>
> Mark Kennedy





From: CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 11 Apr 2000 22:10
Subject: Re: quicky

WHY WHAT?????
----- Original Message -----
From: <RPlsmn@AOL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: quicky

> why?





From: "Courtney Winter  :-)" <CoCo330@AOL.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 01:39
Subject: Re: Paper Packet diagrams

I always keep the diagrams, since I am a beginner, they are sometimes very
useful.
    Has anyone found a website with either an angel or a realistic bunny? I
was hoping to make a easter bunny for my Aunt, Uncle, and cousin, since I
will be spending spring break with them. If you know a website please send it
to me at CoCo330@aol.com. Thanks! :-)
CoCo





From: "Courtney Winter  :-)" <CoCo330@AOL.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 01:42
Subject: Lots of origami

I have lots of origami hanging around my house and I don't know what to do
with it. It is all over, on top of my dresser, in my closet, everywhere. What
should I do with it? Any ideas??





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 04:22
Subject: Re: Lots of origami

The general consensus seems to be ' Buy a Cat' (^_^)

Dave
> I have lots of origami hanging around my house and I don't know what to do
>  with it. It is all over, on top of my dresser, in my closet, everywhere.
> What
>  should I do with it? Any ideas??





From: Marion Riley <marion-r@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 04:33
Subject: Re: Lots of origami

Buy a cat? Fold and they will come. To wit;
pic of Langston Hughs at bottom of my web
site. Didn't cost me a thing.

              Marion

http://community.webtv.net/marion-r/ModularOrigami





From: Michael Antonette <mylor@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 07:18
Subject: Re: Lots of origami

   For a change from cats, you could get a ferret. Not only do they play
with pieces just like a feline, but they tend to put them away as well after
playing. Ferrets tend to be "pack rat" types...
   Of course, then you NEVER know where you're going to find tired-looking
bits of origami in your house, but hey! at least YOU didn't have to put them
there!!!:)

                                       Michael

(Yes, I speak from experience...sigh!)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Courtney Winter :-)" <CoCo330@AOL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: April 11, 2000 10:42 PM
Subject: Lots of origami

> I have lots of origami hanging around my house and I don't know what to do
> with it. It is all over, on top of my dresser, in my closet, everywhere.
What
> should I do with it? Any ideas??





From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 09:20
Subject: Re: Jeremy's book

Dee asks:

>>>
Anyone have the scoop on Jeremy's book? They keep telling me it hasn't
been published, but, according to the last newsletter from Jeremy, it
was going to the press then!
<<<

I've been informed that the editor who handles origami books at
St. Martin's Press (who is Jeremy's publisher) went on a "sudden"
leave of absence, and this has delayed production on Jeremy's
book.  He's been told that it should come out before Xmas...

It's all rather sad.  St. Martin's Press has a very good history
of publishing origami books and treating their authors well.
My impression is that this devotion to origami was kept alive by
a wonderful senior editor there, Barbara Anderson.  But then in 1996
she left St. Martin's, and ever since then the work of maintaining
their "origami line" of books has fallen on the shoulders of junior
editors, who often don't stay on at St. Martin's for more than a year.
Thus the editing leadership for origami books at St. Martin's Press
has suffered from lack of continuity.  And now, with Jeremy's book,
we're seeing delays and a lack of professionalism.  I hope this
trend does not continue.  If I ever write another origami book
I'd hope that I could go back to St. Martin's Press.  (Both
of my books were published with them, in 1994 and 1998, and I had no
problems.)

------ Tom "happy boy" Hull
       thull@merrimack.edu
       http://web.merrimack.edu/~thull





From: Terry Rioux <trioux@WHOI.EDU>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 09:27
Subject: Re: Origami ties

CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM> shouted:
>HEY,  I'D LIKE TO GET A TIE WITH ORIGAMI CRANES ON IT .  INFO PLEASE ON
>WHERE TO GET ONE???

Ouch, my ears! You don't have to shout.

Well, being a good little web surfer, I found the web site for the
Boston Museum of Fine Arts:

http://www.mfa.org/home.htm

If you click on the 'shop' icon, and then on the next page the 'find it
for me' icon, and type in 'origami tie' you'll find two silk ties with
origami cranes offered..... ON SALE!! (oops, sorry, I got excited). One
is burgundy and the other navy with multicolored origami cranes.  The
original price (the one I paid several years ago) was US $36.50, while
the sale price is $19.99.

If you don't want to surf, you can just go directly to the ties:

The URL for the burgundy tie is:
http://store.yahoo.com/mfa/41672-405.html
The URL for the navy tie is:
http://store.yahoo.com/mfa/41672-425.html

A little diclaimer: I have no idea if they are still available or not,
since sales sometimes indicate a closeout item, but I might order
another one (the blue one this time) since the price is pretty good.

Hope this helps,

Terry Rioux
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From: Brian Moses <moses@POP.UKY.EDU>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 09:42
Subject: Angels, Easter Bunnies, Chicks [was Paper Packet diagrams]

Hi CoCo,

I'm relatively new to origami as well.  I found a neat book in my public
Library by Paul Jackson, Festive folding: decorative origami for parties and
celebrations.  It is (was?) published by North Light Books (1991),
ISBN0891344020.  In addition to a bunny, it contains easter chicks, and
there's a very nice angel in the Christmas section, I believe by Dave Brill.
I picked it up because I enjoy geometric models, and the bauble ornament
fascinated me.  It's a bit tricky, but the Christmas bell, a blow-up model,
is also fun and easy, and I believe that one is Mr. Jackson's own model.  I
don't have the book in front of me, but I've noticed that both Jackson and
Brill are online.  Please correct me if I have not credited the models to
the right designer.

Best wishes,

Brian Moses

-----Original Message-----
From: Origami Mailing List [mailto:Origami@MIT.Edu]On Behalf Of Courtney
Winter :-)
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 1:39 AM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Paper Packet diagrams

I always keep the diagrams, since I am a beginner, they are sometimes very
useful.
    Has anyone found a website with either an angel or a realistic bunny? I
was hoping to make a easter bunny for my Aunt, Uncle, and cousin, since I
will be spending spring break with them. If you know a website please send
it
to me at CoCo330@aol.com. Thanks! :-)
CoCo





From: Lisa Hodsdon <lisagami@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 07:18
Subject: Origami Publishing?

I composed the following before I read Tom Hull's
recent comments about St. Martins Press. This might
possibly be more timely than I thought.

A friend of mine runs a small publishing house. We
were talking recently about directions in which they
might expand their catalog. He's not looking for best
sellers, but rather for books that can be counted on
to sell a substantial portion of a short press run.
(They currently focus primarily on linguistics books
which often have press runs of well under 1000
copies.)

I've heard people on this list saying that they would
like to get a book published if only they could find a
publisher, but publishers tend to think that the
market is too small. I suggested to him that there are
a number of people with self-published or unpublished
origami books which have the potential to have, from
his perspective, quite a large market.

So, if a publisher were interested in breaking into
the origami market, what would you like to see them
do? Are there books out there waiting to be published?
If you've self-published, how many copies have you
sold? What are the editorial needs specific to origami
books? Any comments, ideas, suggestions?

For the moment, I'm playing go between. His schedule
is too busy for the next couple of weeks to pursue
this, but I thought I would float the idea here to see
what kind of response I get. I'll be saving messages
to forward to him when he's ready to further research
the idea, so not hearing back immediately doesn't mean
you won't hear back at all.

Lisa Hodsdon
lisagami@yahoo.com

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From: Bimal Ramesh Desai <desaib@MEDICINE.WUSTL.EDU>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 10:17
Subject: Re: Lots of origami

Don't guinea pigs shred paper to line their cages?  Perfect disposal for
those origami models of a sensitive nature.

-B





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 00:10
Subject: Re: Lots of origami

Oh? Has a pair of hamsters been ruled out? :o)

Dave Stephenson wrote:

> The general consensus seems to be ' Buy a Cat' (^_^)
>
> Dave
> > I have lots of origami hanging around my house and I don't know what to do
> >  with it. It is all over, on top of my dresser, in my closet, everywhere.
> > What
> >  should I do with it? Any ideas??





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 18:50
Subject: Re: Origami ties

Hello,

        I also saw the ties in Boston in the Museum shop and in the offshoot
     store
in the Prudential centre. If anyone is interested it is possible to buy
cotton material with various chiyogami style prints on them, including the
crane pattern seen on the silk tie. I bought some in a shop in Cape Cod
(called Tumbleweeds I think) but it should be pretty easy to find or order
(there are a number of large fabric shops in New England). My intention is
to make a paper wallet with some of it and try to back the rest with thin
paper and fold it. It should make great Fuse boxes!

                                                        Dennis





From: Russell Sutherland <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 13:54
Subject: The Coyote is Diagrammed... Check it out.

Hey Fellow Folders,

Due to the overwhelming response for diagrams for the coyote head I designed,
I have step folded and posted it online at:

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Salon/5668/coyote.html

The link to the step folds is at the bottom of the page.  Although it may not
be obvious, there is a color change in the eyes and ears of the coyote.  I am
leaving these diagrams online for a LIMITED TIME.

A couple of people have test folded it and have informed me that (aside from
minor inconsistencies)  the step folds are workable.

Please let me know if you fold it. I am anxious to hear how it turned out.

Thanks in advance,

Russell Sutherland
AKA: LoneFolder

DARE TO FOLD IT!!!!!!!!!!!!





From: "Tomlinson, Kristine" <ktomlinson@CONCORD.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 16:47
Subject: (NO) Fortune Teller Paper doll thread (was Working with Chiyogami

Hi,

I was tickled to read Lar deSouza's reply to Dee about both the Origami
Dolls book and the fact he and his wife collect dolls.  There's an origami
challenge I've been wanting to share with others based on some research I'm
doing.  But first, some background:

While browsing through doll books looking for Hina examples, I stumbled upon
Fortune Teller dolls -- a form of pedlar doll from the 18th and 19th
centuries.  Since I'm doing research on all sacred and magical uses of
paper, I started researching these dolls and am not finding much beyond
pictures.  I *think* they are only from England, but am not sure (Lar can
you confirm this?).

The skirts (full or half circle) are made of many pieces of folded paper --
each much like a kite-shape folded length-wise with the shorter triangle
folded inside or the tip bent back into a tab for easy access to the fortune
written inside. The paper was often colored on one side. The fortunes are
hand-written and in one example I found, they were in French. One modern
example (1999) has a skirt made out of 128 of these V-shapes and I believe
scissors are involved.

I guess orginally, people purchased the fortunes (hence, the pedlar doll
classification), and then later, the dolls were used as Victorian parlor
games. The bodies were wooden or porcelain depending on their age.

Here's the challange:

Make an origami fortune-teller doll!  (My first thought was of a "fortune
teller" with a Yakkosan on top, but that was sheer folly :-).  My second
thought was to try and modify something like a nun or Mother Hubbard figure
that has a hood and big skirt.  The challenge, as I see it, is in folding
the skirt with enough folds so that you can have enough fortunes for it to
be usefull (unlike the "fortune teller" model with only eight fortunes).

Anyone up for it? :-)  By the way, I'm a better "origami historian" than I
am a folder, and so I have no problem with using more than one sheet, or
with scissors and glue! :-}

Kristine Tomlinson

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From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 14:47
Subject: Re: Lots of origami

I keep two deep bowls of origami by the front door. One is for guests to
cull from (at my insistance), the other is for Basho the cat to sleep in. If
either one starts to overflow, I take drastic measures. So far Basho is a
drastic enough measure as it is, though. All the best - c!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
With clear melting dew,
I'd try to wash away the dust
of this floating world
                      -Basho
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

email: ella-mae@msn.com





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 14:55
Subject: Re: Paper Packet diagrams

----- Original Message -----
From: "Courtney Winter :-)" <CoCo330@AOL.COM>
>     Has anyone found a website with either an angel or a realistic bunny?

I have to admit, I'm not very web-origami savvy, I'm lucky if I get to surf
around Joseph's page, and Thoki's. Montroll has a real nifty rabbit in
Origami for the Enthusiast, and there's a neat Lang inflated rabbit in
Complete Origami. As for the web, that's uncharted territory here, sorry.
All the best - c!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
With clear melting dew,
I'd try to wash away the dust
of this floating world
                      -Basho
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

email: ella-mae@msn.com





From: Peter Muller <Pemul2197@CS.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 18:18
Subject: cats

who knows good cat models?
                                Pemul2197@cs.com





From: "Courtney Winter  :-)" <CoCo330@AOL.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 18:36
Subject: Re: cats

I have a cat model. It is a rather simple two piece cat, and can be found in O
rigami by  Steve and Megumi Biddle. It is a beginner book. If you would like
a picture of the cat e-mail me at CoCo330@aol.com.
CoCo





From: Kelly Reed <Kelly@WHITING.LIB.IN.US>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 17:49
Subject: Re: (NO) Fortune Teller Paper doll thread (was Working with

>>> "Tomlinson, Kristine" <ktomlinson@CONCORD.COM> 04/12 3:47 PM >>>
Hi,

I
Fortune Teller dolls -- a form of pedlar doll from the 18th and 19th
centuries.  Since I'm doing research on all sacred and magical uses of
paper, I started researching these dolls and am not finding much beyond
pictures.  I *think* they are only from England, but am not sure (Lar can
you confirm this?).

The skirts (full or half circle) are made of many pieces of folded paper --
each much like a kite-shape folded length-wise with the shorter triangle
folded inside or the tip bent back into a tab for easy access to the fortune
written inside. The paper was often colored on one side. The fortunes are
hand-written and in one example I found, they were in French. One modern
example (1999) has a skirt made out of 128 of these V-shapes and I believe
scissors are involved.

Kristine Tomlinson

This sounds interesting.  Is there a picture of one of these dolls on the web
     somewhere?

Thanks,
Kelly

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From: Ron Arruda <arruda@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 16:08
Subject: Tumbleweeds Fabric Shops

There's also a Tumbleweeds in Harvard Square Cambridge, Mass. They're a
chain though I don't know how many stores or where else they are.

Ron Arruda





From: Kelly Reed <Kelly@WHITING.LIB.IN.US>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 18:18
Subject: Re: Teaching an Origami Class

I like to teach simple modular folds because I figure that if the kids repeat
     the same fold six or eight or more times there is a better chance that
     they will remember when they go home.  Putting it together is another
     story and I am often the "third hand

Kelly





From: "John R. S. Mascio" <mascio@RYU.COM>
Date: 08 Apr 2000 10:55
Subject: Re: Lots of origami

I'll frequently use mine for

        - package toppers
        - leave with tip at resturant
        - give away to flight attendants, wait-personnel,
          receptionists, ...
        - leave in random locations where someone will pick
          it up.  (NO LITTERING!)

The problem I have, it keeping my wife from trying to keep all
my work.  I find that 1/2 the fun is folding, the other 1/2 is
giving it away, especially if there is a story or interesting
fact to pass with it.

JRSM
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From: Karen Reeds <reeds@OPENIX.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 20:33
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 11 Apr 2000 to 12 Apr 2000 (#2000-103)

>So, if a publisher were interested in breaking into
>the origami market, what would you like to see them
>do? Are there books out there waiting to be published?
>If you've self-published, how many copies have you
>sold? What are the editorial needs specific to origami
>books? Any comments, ideas, suggestions?

>Lisa Hodsdon
>lisagami@yahoo.com

Speaking as both a retired editor for scholarly presses and a folder with a
book in mind, I think you have just done your friend a big favor.

A line of origami books would mean virtually guaranteed sales and an
eternal backlist for low (in the publishing world's terms) printruns,
minimal marketing.  What's more, they'll be a foothold for his whole list
to get into  bookstores.

The books don't all have to be fancy, could often be done camera-ready. He
could probably get folders groups to serve as testers of the
directions/diagrams (he probably pays $100+ to expert readers in
linguistics to review book mss)--thus insuring early word of mouth
publicity. Doing a sub-list of educational origami books might give him a
school/afterschool care market.

Full-color covers and "galleries" of color illustrations are essential to
marketing. I think; but I don't think he'd need to do full-color throughout
or 2-color diagrams on all books.  I would draw up a style sheet about use
of , e.g. OUSA terms/diagramming conventions, but would not be rigid about
any aspect of this as long as symbols are clearly explained in a book  (I
like the individual styles of drawing/explanations that show up in
convention annual volumes). Get a  copy-editor who knows origami. Ask Gay
Merrill Gross about her experience with book packagers.

Get him to come to the June convention and see the fervor for himself. Ask
the OUSA organizers if it's OK for him to sit at a designated table in the
cafeteria to collect ideas of all sorts.

More power to him and you in the enterprise!
Karen
reeds@openix.com





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 17:46
Subject: Re: cats

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Muller" <Pemul2197@CS.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 3:18 PM
Subject: cats

> who knows good cat models?
>                                 Pemul2197@cs.com

Peter Engel's Tiger is beautiful, though the back legs are kind of wambly. I
think the shape of its head does justice to cat-dom, and I know that my cat
loves to tear it to pieces. The Persian Cat in Origami Omnibus is a beaut
from the proper angle, and it's simple and elegant enough that you can
bedeck all your shelves with it, so long as you have a real cat to regularly
thin the pack. All the best - c!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
With clear melting dew,
I'd try to wash away the dust
of this floating world
                      -Basho
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

email: ella-mae@msn.com





From: Lar deSouza <fresco@SENTEX.NET>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 20:53
Subject: Re: (NO) Fortune Teller Paper doll thread (was Working with Chiyogami

Hi Kristine,

I've emailed you seperately about some doll threads, and I'll be in touch
if I get anything more.

>Make an origami fortune-teller doll!  (My first thought was of a "fortune
>teller" with a Yakkosan on top, but that was sheer folly :-).  My second
>thought was to try and modify something like a nun or Mother Hubbard figure
>that has a hood and big skirt.  The challenge, as I see it, is in folding
>the skirt with enough folds so that you can have enough fortunes for it to
>be usefull (unlike the "fortune teller" model with only eight fortunes).

I think this is a very exciting idea.  Perhaps some sort of modular fold
for the skirt?  I'm wondering too if some fashion based on the modern washi
dolls could be employed for the body.  I'll have to let this percolate.
Perhaps I'll actually get inspired to create a design :)

Thanks for the challenge! :)

Lar





From: Lar deSouza <fresco@SENTEX.NET>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 20:59
Subject: Re: cats and origami

I gotta find out where you people find your playful cats :)P  I have three
in the house and the only thing they like to do is sit upon my books when
I'm trying to fold.  The final folds they just leave alone :)

My uses for origami are mostly giving it away.  I agree with John Mascio
that half the fun is folding and half giving them away.  I need to clear
space so I can fold more!  Very few of my models I choose to keep forever.
Of course, my friends and family are so inundated by folds that I think
I've about exhausted them.  Last Christmas I filled clear plastic balls
with dozens of tiny hexahedrons (sonobe unit) and gave those away till my
finger tips ached from working so small :)

Later!

Lar





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 20:16
Subject: Re: Perry Bailey

Cathy wrote:
>
> At 09:59 AM 09/04/2000 -0700, you wrote:
> >I am stunned. I didn't know Perry except through his postings on the
> >list and through his website.
> >
> >We'll all miss him.
> >
> >Dee
> >
> >
>
> I hadn't checked my e-mail for a week, and I am really stunned by this
> news.  I had exchanged messages a few times with Perry because we had
> similar interests, esp Sci-fi models and dragons.  I am finding it hard to
> deal with his passing, we never met and like you I only knew him via the
> web.  The last time I wrote to him was to ask him help with the Enterprise
> model--he kindly sent me a photo of the model viewed from above to help me.
>  He was generous, too, giving me permission to photocopy and teach his
> models to my friends in sci-fandom.
>
> Will anyone on the list be able to take on some  of his webpage?  It would
> be sad to lose this resource.  Maybe something could be done as a memorial?
>
>                                         Cathy

>
> ******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****
>
> Cathy Palmer-Lister
> Ste. Julie, Quebec
> Canada
> cathypl@generation.net
>
> *****^^^^^*****^^^^^******

Hi cathy!

        This is Erralee Bailey (Perry Bailey's Daughter)  If it
startles you to get email from my dad I apologize I don't know
how to put this into my name.  Any ways, My dad's friend Steve
said it was okay to leave the <-Website on his server and that
he could help with a memorial for my father on the <-Website.
So I would not be to worried.

sincerely,
Erralee Bailey
--
"Continental chambermaids
are very hard to shock,
first they wait until your naked
then they enter, then they knock!"

Victor Buono from "It could be verse"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 12 Apr 2000 18:44
Subject: Re: Perry Bailey

>         This is Erralee Bailey (Perry Bailey's Daughter)  If it
> startles you to get email from my dad I apologize I don't know
> how to put this into my name

You're doing fine with this name, besides, it's sort of a comfort. I hope I
speak for everyone when I say 'thanks' for staying on the list, and keeping
us apprised of the situation. It's also nice to see Perry's name appear on
the list, still. All the best - c!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
With clear melting dew,
I'd try to wash away the dust
of this floating world
                      -Basho
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

email: ella-mae@msn.com





From: Annie Tran <tran_annie@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 01:52
Subject: Re: (NO) Fortune Teller Paper doll thread (was Working with Chiyogami

Hi Kristine and Lar,

My name is Annie and I am very interested in exploring designs and new
designs of origami.  Do you guys have the folding instructions on the net or
on a website where I may learn?

Thanks,
Annie

>From: Lar deSouza <fresco@SENTEX.NET>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: (NO) Fortune Teller Paper doll thread (was Working with
>       Chiyogami              Papers)
>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:53:57 -0500
>
>Hi Kristine,
>
>I've emailed you seperately about some doll threads, and I'll be in touch
>if I get anything more.
>
> >Make an origami fortune-teller doll!  (My first thought was of a "fortune
> >teller" with a Yakkosan on top, but that was sheer folly :-).  My second
> >thought was to try and modify something like a nun or Mother Hubbard
>figure
> >that has a hood and big skirt.  The challenge, as I see it, is in folding
> >the skirt with enough folds so that you can have enough fortunes for it
>to
> >be usefull (unlike the "fortune teller" model with only eight fortunes).
>
>I think this is a very exciting idea.  Perhaps some sort of modular fold
>for the skirt?  I'm wondering too if some fashion based on the modern washi
>dolls could be employed for the body.  I'll have to let this percolate.
>Perhaps I'll actually get inspired to create a design :)
>
>Thanks for the challenge! :)
>
>Lar

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From: "John R. S. Mascio" <mascio@RYU.COM>
Date: 08 Apr 2000 14:00
Subject: Re: cats and origami

Lar,

I'll loan you our male cat.  He loves chewing on paper.  Don't
leave out any papers you want to keep, or it will be repeatedly
spindled and mutalated.  He is lousing at folding. ;-)

I folded a 12 unit stellate octahrdron from 1" paper.  The tried
a 30 unit stellate icosahedron.  The icosahedron was tougher!
With 3" or 6" paper, it is the other way around.  The 1" figures
are keepers and on my shelf!

I'll be making icosahedrons (and some octahedrons) from 2" foil
wrapping paper for  Xmas ornaments.

JRSM
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From: Leong Cheng Chit <leongccr@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 08:49
Subject: Faces and Masks

Dear Fellow Folders,

I've folded a face. Perhaps, it's not as expressive as those by Eric
Joisel, but there are fewer folds and it does have a classical Greek god
(or goddess)
sculpture look.

You can view it at:
http://www.paperfolding.com/chengchit

Cheng Chit





From: Leong Cheng Chit <leongccr@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 08:11
Subject: Re: cats

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Muller" <Pemul2197@CS.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 3:18 PM
Subject: cats

> who knows good cat models?
>                                 Pemul2197@cs.com

The cat I like most is the one designed by Herman Goubergen. Bas-relief
like and suitable for mounting on a picture frame.

Cheng Chit





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 16:19
Subject: Re: cats

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Leong Cheng Chit wrote:

> The cat I like most is the one designed by Herman Goubergen. Bas-relief
> like and suitable for mounting on a picture frame.

Excellent cat model, though expect to waste a few pieces of paper getting
it to look good. Another fine cat model is by Toshie Takahama - fun to
fold, and a highly individual design. I have seen it in a couple of places
- one of Paul Jackson's books (Classic?), and Creative Life with Creative
Origami 3.

regards
Michael





From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Wong=20Sonny?= <w_sonny@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 02:17
Subject: List Stopped?

Dear Sir/Madam
I am enquiring why I am not rceiving the origami list?
Rgds
Sonny

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From: THE' ORIGAMIMASTER <THE_ORIGAMIMASTER@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 02:35
Subject: Re: No: Re: Rejected messages

sorry Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 4:07 PM
Subject: No: Re: Rejected messages

> > ITS ONLY ON THE ONES THAT DON'T ENTER THEIR E-MAIL ADDRESS          >
> CORRECTLY !!!!!
>
> I thought this had been sorted out long ago, it's been over a week since I
> last received a returned message from Terry. However I can assure you that
my
> e-mail is always entered correctly, therefore I don't think that this was
the
> problem...
>
> Incidentally I think you accidentally left the caps lock on... sorry to
see
> the '1' keys sticking too, quite terrible I do hope your keyboard isn't
> broken.
>
> Dave





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 06:37
Subject: Re: cats

> who knows good cat models?
>                                 Pemul2197@cs.com

I like the one by Fumiaki Kawahata in Montrolls North American Animals.

Dave





From: "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel@EXC.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 07:32
Subject: Origami Fantasy?

About a month ago someone asked about "favorite books," and Origami
Fantasy appeared many times, so I tried to order a copy.  But I
haven't been able to find one.  I ordered one from Fantastic Folds,
but they just informed me that it's out of print.

Does anyone know where I might get a copy??

Thanks.

-Joel
(joel@exc.com)





From: Mark Morden <marmonk@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 05:55
Subject: Re: cats

> Another fine cat model is by Toshie Takahama - fun to
> fold, and a highly individual design. I have seen it in a couple of places
> - one of Paul Jackson's books (Classic?), and Creative Life with Creative
> Origami 3.
>
If you visit the Origami Olio at the address below, I have diagrams for
folding the Takahama cat out of a dollar bill.  Follow the original bill
folds links to find the diagrams.

Mark Morden == marmonk@eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
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From: Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@EIEE.UNIVALLE.EDU.CO>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 08:30
Subject: Re: cats

> > who knows good cat models?
> >                                 Pemul2197@cs.com
>
There is a good cat model at:
http://teleline.terra.es/personal/j.anibal/E1/E2/E3-instr/Gato.pdf

It was created by Anibal Voyer I.

Good luck,
Jose Tomas Buitrago

     Jos Tomas Buitrago Molina M.Sc.
     buitrago@eiee.univalle.edu.co
     http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago

     "Origami y Robtica"





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 07:10
Subject: Re: cats

Here's one of my favorite origami kitty cats, Anita Barbour's Halloween
Cat, expressive and fetchingly feline:

http://www.ulster.net/~spider/weencat1.htm

Dorothy





From: Annie Tran <tran_annie@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 15:29
Subject: Re: Lots of origami

What kind of origmis do you have Courtney.  I would like to learn and take a
look at the different designs.  If you don't mind sending it to me....

Thanks

Annie

>From: "Courtney Winter  :-)" <CoCo330@AOL.COM>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Lots of origami
>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:42:40 EDT
>
>I have lots of origami hanging around my house and I don't know what to do
>with it. It is all over, on top of my dresser, in my closet, everywhere.
>What
>should I do with it? Any ideas??

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From: Annie Tran <tran_annie@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 15:32
Subject: Re: The Horse

Is there a magazine each month for origami?? If so, where may I subscribe?
Does anyone knows the phone # or webaddress??

Thanks

Annie
>From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: The Horse
>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:47:56 PDT
>
>i wonder when i will receive my copy of issue #60 =-I
>
>>From: Mike Wareman <mwareman@ADMIN.OLDSCOLLEGE.AB.CA>
>>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>>Subject: The Horse
>>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:42:22 -0600
>>
>>Hello Fellow folders:
>>
>>I am working on the horse model from issue #60 of the JOAS magazine.  I am
>>stuck on step 79.  Do I try and get that fold back to what it was in step
>>45?  Or do I fold using the creases from step 45?  Do I just mountain fold
>>the layers or is there some sort of pinching procedure?  As you can tell I
>>am not quite sure what needs to be done.  I sort of just folded and
>>squished the paper based on the creases from step 45.
>>
>>Thank you for your help,
>>Mike,
>>
>>
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>>
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From: Annie Tran <tran_annie@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 15:42
Subject: Help, please advice!

Hello Everyone,

I am working on a group project in  a Japanese American Art and Expression
course.  My instructor wants my group to demonstrate our topic about
Isolation.  Within isolation we are focusing on the community.  do you guys
have any suggestions and ideas on how to present this.  My group and I came
up with the  idea to make a collage about the internment affecting the JA
and then the positive aspect in which the children and the society
recognized the problem in the past.  The reverse side of the colllage , we
plan to copy George bush's apology letter on it and maybe the surrounding of
the letter add quotes from books and then fold it into cranes to send to the
community.  What do you guys think????  Do you guys have any other ideas to
suggest to me about "Isolation in relating to the community as a whole???  I
was thinking about folding origami of the internment camp and the people but
that takes too much work and I am a beginner at origami.  But this would be
neat I think.  Any ideas, please feel free to email me.

Thanks a million,

Annie
tran_annie@hotmail.com
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From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 11:49
Subject: Paper website

My section of the company is having our quarterly Rewards and Recognition
Celbration, soon. The theme for the next on is
Cinco do Mayo. We are encouraged to make a Piata for a chance to win
prizes. In October, we got to decorate pumpkins to look like the managers in
our business unit. The bald guys got picked on.

Anyway, the reason that I mention this is that we were refered to a website
in case we did not know how to do paper mache.

I think that I have done paper mache longer than I have done Origami (it
will be 40 years on election night this November - this time I will watch
the election returns rather than NET (now PBS)). The website is interesting.
The opening page has an animated cootie catcher/fortune teller that gives
out paper factoids.  I think that some of you might be interested. The
details are:

TAPPI, the Technical Association of the Pulp and Paper Industry, is a
professional society for individuals working in the paper industry
worldwide. Our members work at the science of papermaking every day; it is
their job to understand the facts about papermaking and forest practices,
and how to protect our environment while producing the quality paper
products we all need and enjoy.  http://www.tappi.org/paperu/index.asp

I hope that you enjoy it.

Mark Kennedy





From: Gillian Wiseman <gilladian@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 12:52
Subject: Re: cats and origami

Playful cats? We train ours daily. Paperwads, feathers on strings, rabbit
fur mice, etc... One of ours is an olympic class backflipper. Even the old
lady at age 14 likes to take dainty swats dangled at the proper height and
distance!

Really, I suspect it's how much they are taught to play that makes the
difference.

Somebody asked about cat diagrams; on the index at Joseph Wu's site there is
a sitting cat which I played with last night. It's fairly complex, and I
never quite got the leg/tail folds quite right, but it's pretty!

Gillian
>
>I gotta find out where you people find your playful cats :)P  I have three
>in the house and the only thing they like to do is sit upon my books when
>I'm trying to fold.  The final folds they just leave alone :)
>
>My uses for origami are mostly giving it away.  I agree with John Mascio
>that half the fun is folding and half giving them away.  I need to clear
>space so I can fold more!  Very few of my models I choose to keep forever.
>Of course, my friends and family are so inundated by folds that I think
>I've about exhausted them.  Last Christmas I filled clear plastic balls
>with dozens of tiny hexahedrons (sonobe unit) and gave those away till my
>finger tips ached from working so small :)
>
>Later!
>
>Lar

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From: Lar deSouza <fresco@SENTEX.NET>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 17:00
Subject: Re: cats and origami

Gillian,

>Playful cats? We train ours daily. Paperwads, feathers on strings, rabbit
>fur mice, etc... One of ours is an olympic class backflipper. Even the old
>lady at age 14 likes to take dainty swats dangled at the proper height and
>distance!

Oh they enjoy string, threads and a cat toy that has a spray of feathers on
the end of a wire.  My wife can't do needlework without one eye ready to
save her thread end from a playful claw or three, but they have no interest
in my origami.  Maybe I should fill some modulars with catnip ;)

Lar - who is off topic for the list, but loves his cats anyhow.





From: Valerie Kull <VKull@ENVIRONCORP.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 17:07
Subject: Cats for Origami

Combining threads, does anyone know where to find diagrams for a cat model
realistic enough to play with and use up extra origami models?

;-)

Valerie Kull





From: "Tomlinson, Kristine" <ktomlinson@CONCORD.COM>
Date: 13 Apr 2000 17:06
Subject: Re: (NO) Fortune Teller Paper doll thread

Annie Tran wrote April 13, 2000:
>>
My name is Annie and I am very interested in exploring designs and new
designs of origami.  Do you guys have the folding instructions on the net or
on a website where I may learn?
>>
Hi Annie,

If you mean desgins for the fortune teller doll, I've been unable to find a
Web site with even a picture of one.  The "skirt" leaves as I described them
came from looking at photographs of fortune teller dolls in various books
for doll collectors.  They appear in most of the doll books at my local
library. Also, people teach contemporary classes in making them (I found 2
of these on the Web) -- so you *may* find design information somewhere -- I
just don't know where.  Ideally, I'd like to get to a museum, collector, or
teacher and take a closer look.

My challenge was to see if someone could design one of these dolls in
origami since no such thing exists. However, it is hard to do this without a
picture of the original =smile= . Someday I'll  just have to get a scanner
:-).

Kristine

P.S. -- my current plan is to handle the skirt like a Troublewit-style fan
with 2 right angle-bends for the doll's waist.  That's the plan anyway ...
