




From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 02 Apr 2000 11:54
Subject: Re: Kawahata Diagrams

>I am getting fed up with people asking for copies of diagrams from 'Origami
>Fantasy' by Kawahata. As a result, I have scanned all of 'Origami Fantasy'
>and placed the diagrams on my website. Click on the 'Kawahata' button to
>see
>them. I'm sure Mr Kawahata won't mind, if it frees up my Inbox a little.
>
>On my Animals page, I've also put up a diagram from a friend of mine,
>Odolaf
>Shubtill, of his stunning 'Poisson d'Avril'.
>
>Enjoy,
>
>Stephen

To all those who have written to me (I won't give names) asking where the
kawahata diagrams are...APRIL FOOL!

Stephen

PS : Poisson d'Avril is french for 'April fool'

PPS : 'Odolaf Shubtill' is an anagram for 'Load of Bull****'

Dr Stephen O'Hanlon MA(oxon) MB.BChir(cantab)
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From: Rakostar@AOL.COM
Date: 02 Apr 2000 14:16
Subject: Re: Dr. O'Hanlon's Crocodile Eyes

Dear Dr. O'Hanlon,
                            I did it. Eyes look great. My George does not
look shifty.  He looks quite respectable.  Thanks.
                                                 Rae

>Dear Dr. O'Hanlon,
>                              I really love your George the Crocodile, and I
can fold everything but the eyes.
>(http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/4800/anidiag.html )
>In Step 16, where you say 'fold eyes', I can't make out the diagram.  I've
>fooled around a bit, but it doesn't come out like the picture of the finished
>George.  Could you describe a bit more about folding the eyes?
>                      Thanks.
>                                   Rae

Hi rae,

The head part is basically a small frog base. If you fold it correctly, you
should end up with two small flaps pointing backwards. Fold the tips of
these to the outer lateral side of the head, at about 45 degress. Now the
fun part! You should be able to slip a finger nail or a pin inside the front
of these flaps and open it slightly. This reveals the inside colour and
gives george his shifty look ( the actual George soft toy is far sweeter
looking). If you cant get it, practice using a frog base.

All the best,

Dr Stephen O'Hanlon MA(oxon) MB.BChir(cantab)





From: Lori Gregory <LBGregory77@GATEWAY.NET>
Date: 02 Apr 2000 15:26
Subject: OUSA Affiliate Calendar

Reminder:

The next deadline for the OrigamiUSA Paper is April 15.  If anyone has
anything they would like added to the affiliate calendar, please email me
privately by April 12.

The regularly scheduled affiliate meetings that I have been notified of for
the next publication of the Paper and will be included again in the following
publication are:
Denver, CO
Ann Arbor, MC
Raleigh, NC
Kingston, NY
Havertown, PA
Seattle, WA

Please include any special events that your group will be involved in.
Thank you!
Lori Gregory
LBGregory77@gateway.net





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 02 Apr 2000 16:22
Subject: Re: Pop-up Thing

Ron,
At 09.37 1/4/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>Ten or more years ago Shawn Troy Truitt offered diagrams for a dollar
>bill fold action model called "Pop Up Penis". Is this guy still offering
>same, and how can I get in touch with him?

???? I've been in correspondence for years with TRICIA Troy Truitt..... a
lady ! Same person ???? :-(
It was snail-mail time then (prehistory....), and I only have her
snail-mail address.

>Is this subject too risque for the list?

Maybe. But I suppose that, if you have "that" kind of problems, just one
dollar is hardly enough to solve them..... ;-)

Roberto





From: drlouise <drlouise@GATEWAY.NET>
Date: 02 Apr 2000 17:17
Subject: Re: teaching models

Perhaps everyone knows this, but I thought it might be a good moment to
review what I assume are "Lillian's" models--
--Start off with the "magazine cover box"--that way folders have something
to put their models in.  (I always teach it with Gay's storigami.  I have
students who have turned this into a family tradition, amusing younger
cousins.  I also have had students who decide to make up their own stories
with each subsequent fold I teach.)
--I usually teach the very simple cup you can drink from--the class gets to
get up and get a drink
--Next teach a frog to jump into the box (I teach the index card frog)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Arruda" <arruda@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: teaching models

> I have a few models I like to teach: each has different reasons for being
> on my list.
>
> The Crane: though not easy for tyros, it means so much to me that I can
> teach it with love and people can't fail to catch on. This one has such a
> rich context, all over the world. A great connector of people.
>
> Astro Tube: from Steven Weiss' Wings and Things. Wonderful flying device
> that is a complete surprize. Can be made quickly and is many sizes, from
> figer ring size to three pound coffee can size. Kids really love it,
> great outdoors, and not too destructive indoors either.
>
> Concorde: I always call this Harbin's Looper Plane. I saw this (as a John
> Cunliffe diagram i think) in BOS mag #90 (Oct 1981), but it's from
> Harbin's Origami Compendium (sheet 6). Another kid pleaser, and again
> with that surprize looper trick. Very elegant, though the sharp nose can
> poke your little eyes out if you're not careful!
>
> Traditional Crown: Quick, and makes a good size hat from not too big a
> sheet. As in Paul Jackson's Classic Origami, page 15. Hats are good
> because the product of the fold is a public advertizement for others to
> ask "Where'd you get that hat?" Contagion ensues!
>
> I think the best teaching folds are those which the student can gain
> mastery of quickly enough to teach it to someone else before too long,
> links in the chain! It's when I teach something that I really learn it
> myself. The folds also have to be wonderful enough to compel "outsiders"
> to want to be on the "inside".
>
> Ron Arruda, on the coast of California





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 02 Apr 2000 17:23
Subject: New Model Alert

Hi gang!

Well actually it isn't a lert it's a coot, that is I am informed
a water fowl that is seldom hunted and it's taste lives up to
it's name, fowl.  Any way I wasn't quite sure so I called on the
help of a specialist in the field and was told it was definitely
a Coot!  What a hoot!  Sorry about that it just slipped out.  I
didn't put this up yesterday as I didn't want to spoil any of
the pranksters fun.  The paper is is made from is some of Anita
Barbers's Sumanigashi paper that she sent me!  I hope you like
it, it is a simple one page model.

Though late last night I found myself thinking what if a
Scotsman were washed up on a deserted island and found this
bottle beautifully preserved even the the seal a great big lead
one was intact.  He would break the seal thinking whether or not
the contents were still drinkable and out of the mouth of the
bottle a great cloud of smoke would appear and form itself into
a vast manlike form looking down on the scot, then when it
declared "I am the Djinn of the bottle what is your wish ?
would he then ask, "if your the gin where's the tonic?".

Perry
--
"Continental chambermaids
are very hard to shock,
first they wait until your naked
then they enter, then they knock!"

Victor Buono from "It could be verse"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!





From: Ron Arruda <arruda@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Date: 02 Apr 2000 17:29
Subject: Re: Pop-up Thing

Roberto,

Trish Troy Truitt is Shawn's mother. She was living in Florida when i was
acquainted with her. Shawn had a P.O. Box address in Texas then. maybe I
can contact him through his mom?

Ron Arruda





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 02 Apr 2000 18:50
Subject: Cigarette Paper Umbrellas, update, Modular Origami

Aloha,

In case anyone else was interested, Beth Stern and I
finally got around to comparing notes, and apparently
we both have copies of the same twelve-page
diagrammed instructions, in Japanese.

Beth is looking for a different, two-sided, single-sheet,
simplified set of instructions, that she once had access
to, and that I've never seen.

By the way, looking at the diagrams again, I noticed
a few more construction details I missed. There seem
to be two modules, one for the ribs of the top of the
parasol, and a smaller one for the supporting struts
underneath, and the struts are pierced and threaded
together with thread(?), and glued in place.

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura  (a.k.a. "Mad")





From: Faye Goldman <FayeG@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: 02 Apr 2000 20:16
Subject: Re: New Model Alert

Next Meeting of the Greater Philadelphia Paper Folders  - Monday April 3.
The Greater Phila Paper Folders is meeting on the First Monday
of each month, 6:30-9:00pm.
New Place: Havertown PA.  Temple Lutheran Church on the corner of Earlington
     Road and Brookline Blvd. Entrance for folding is from Brookline, between
     the large steps, and the house next door.
The Church is not too far from City Line (rt 1) and West Chester Pike (rt 3).

Call Faye Goldman (610) 642-2901 (h) or (610) 971-5644(w)  for info.





From: Faye Goldman <FayeG@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: 02 Apr 2000 20:18
Subject: Re: Kawahata Diagrams

I loved your joke, will look for another one next year.
Faye Goldman





From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: 02 Apr 2000 22:54
Subject: Re: OUSA Affiliate Calendar

We at OPOSD (Origami Paperfolders of San Diego) always meet on the third
Saturday of each month. I think V'Ann Cornelius usually notifies you but I
thought I'd just add this to your enquiry. All best from Florence.





From: Ross Cooper <Zxenor@AOL.COM>
Date: 02 Apr 2000 23:13
Subject: New Wolf Diagram

For a long time, i have been searching for a good wolf fold...after a while i
got impatient and "invented" my own (i say "invented" because it is made by
tweaking another diagram)

Just as a little sidenote: I folded this diagram very hastily for the first
time out of some notebook paper during my 'Japanese I' class at my high
school (this is the picture you'll see).  Sensei kept saying "dame, dame,
dame.  you need to listen" :-)

A picture is at: http://homes.arealcity.com/zxenor/files/wolf.jpg

The instructions for this fold are (and i do take full copyright or whatever
for this):

Fold the 'dragon' from Kasahara's "Origami Omnibus" (this is a VERY nice book
by the way, and i recommend that ANY big folder should have a copy, whether
beginner or advanced) and stop on step 31 or so.  From here, you will have to
go by the picture while reading the instructions.

1.  For the wolf's upper mouth, prefold the dragon's upper mouth back towards
the ears and then tuck this inside itself (reverse petal fold?)
2.  For the wolf's lower mouth, simply fold the dragon's lower mouth down and
tuck it underneath so that when you fold it in half, it stays under
3.  For the ears, do tuck them back inside themselves (another reverse petal
fold?) and crimp them the same as the dragon's
4.  For the feet, simply do not last reverse folds and leave them as if they
weren't curled (you could also reverse fold them in on themselves to give
them a more realistic affect)
5.  For the body, pleat fold the lower back inside the upper back to shorten
body length and give him a stronger looking upper body
6.  For the tail...this was hard to create and i probably won't explain it
right...but...heregoes: a.  on step 29-32 or so, open the tail and fold it
back in on itself on both sides so that it bisects the upper two angles b.
pleat fold the tail back so that it goes inside itself and almost to the leg
c.  mess with it a bit until it looks OK
5.  Follow the rest of the model and it should look good...

Got it? No?  Well, it's really hard to dictate a diagram, but any comments
corrections, or adjustments would be LARGELY appreciated.

I made this diagram because i LOVE wolves and I figured there should be a
nice looking origami model of one out there :-)

Happy Folding!

   -Ross





From: Darren Scott <Darren.Scott@SCI.MONASH.EDU.AU>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 00:13
Subject: Winnie the Pooh !

Anybody know of any Winnie the Pooh diagrams,
in books of on the web or any one keen to design one

Thanks in advance

Darren





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 03 Apr 2000 00:42
Subject: Re: Display

In a message dated 3/27/00 1:27:55 PM, scram@LANDMARKNET.NET writes:
This is a thing I do too and everyone loves it...My schtick to use with it
from just two cards is, "I am going to make you something mystical and
magical and it will bring you good luck" and up comes the pyramid before they
know it.  Image my surprize and delight when my arthritis Dr. turned out to
be Egyptian.  Now he loves my origami gifts so much that they are displayed
beautifully in his office.....and  sometimes I bring in a simple model and he
wants to learn it so I have to teach him right there and then. He learns very
fast.....
<<
    There must be others out there who, when in a store that has a business
card dispenser on the counter, automatically takes four cards and turns them
into a cuboctahedron while standing in line?  This does not always get oohs
and aahs from the proprietor, but the other customers usually find it
interesting. >>

This is a thing I do too and everyone loves it...My schtick to use with it
from just two cards is, "I am going to make you something mystical and
magical and it will bring you good luck" and up comes the pyramid before they
know it. And their name shows on the outside.   Image my surprize and delight
when my  Dr. turned out to be Egyptian.  Now he loves my origami gifts so
much that they are displayed beautifully in his office.....and  sometimes I
bring in a simple model and he wants to learn it so I have to teach him right
there and then. He learns very fast..... Just one of the delightful
experiences I have with origami almost on a daily basis.  Dorigami





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 03 Apr 2000 01:03
Subject: JOAS membership and Book orders

Dear All,

The following people have contacted me and placed their orders for JOAS
membership, renewals and book orders:

Ms. Tricia Tait
Mr. Lorenzo Lucioni
Ms. Paula Versnick
Ms. Tiffany Tam,
Ms. Dee Lynch
Mr. Dennis W. Manasco
Mr. Richard Hunter
Mr. David G. Chow
Mr. Daniel Scher
Mr. Scott Cramer
Mr. Robert A. Schwartz
Mr. Michael J. Naughton
Ms. Helen Sperber
Ms. Mette Pederson
Mr. John Marcolina
Mr. Garrett Alley
Mr. Rodrigo Antonio Pantoja
Mr. J. Robert A. Lemieux

Your orders have been placed and you should be receiving your publications
soon.  :)

Yours,

June Sakamoto
9 Merrill Drive
Mahwah, NJ  07430

PS:  The next order to Japan will be collected and sent to Japan at the end
of this month.   If you are interested in renewing your Japan Origami
Academic Society (JOAS) membership, please e-mail me of your intent and I
will make sure it is processed in my next order.





From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 02:08
Subject: JOAS convention 2000

Dear folders,
We are pleased to announce the 6th JOAS convention and
4th Issei Yoshino Fund Invitation here.
Please share the information with your origami friends.

*6th Origami Tanteidan Convention

Japan Origami Academic Society is going to hold its 6th Origami Tanteidan
Convention on August 4-6, 2000, at Toyo University, Tokyo. More than 200
origami lovers will enjoy many origami classes, classes in origami studies,
and interesting events. In addition, you can share origami experiences with
advanced designers or eager beginners.

We exempt all foreigners from the admission fund of the 6th Convention. We
will welcome all of you to our Convention 2000. For further information,
please consult our magazine and our website, http://www.origami.gr.jp/.
Also you can contact us by e-mail at webman@origami.gr.jp.

*4th Issei Yoshino Fund Invitation

We have established the Issei Yoshino Fund to commemorate the talented
origami designer Issei Yoshino and invite foreign origamists to our
conventions. This year, we would like to invite two foreign origamists to
the 6th JOAS convention.

We are accepting candidates until the end of April. We will accept both
recommendations and direct applications. The selection committee will decide
who we will invite and announce the conclusion this May in our magazine,
website, and directly to the winners. The members of the committee are
Tomoko Fuse, Fumiaki Kawahata, Toshikazu Kawasaki, Jun Maekawa, Seiji
Nishikawa, Masao Okamura, Yoshihisa Kimura, and Makoto Yamaguchi.

The selected guests must attend the 6th convention and teach some models.
They must also supervise an exhibition at Gallery Origami House. Issei
Yoshino Fund offers them 200,000 yen for traveling and living expenses. We
will also make the arrangements for their stay.

Send your application with the candidate's name, age, address, telephone
number, fax number, e-mail address, and some works (photographs of models,
diagrams, or books), to:  Issei Yoshino Fund, c/o Gallery Origami House,
1-33-8-216, Hakusan, Bunkyu-ku, Tokyo, 113-0001, Japan.

     Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
             International Liaison of
          Japan Origami Academic Society
                webman@origami.gr.jp
 _ _ _ _ _
|         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
|_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
|         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
|_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
 If they keep on risking failure, they're still artists. (S.Jobs)





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 02:51
Subject:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mad" <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
> Those Thousand Cranes pictures, remind me of the pictures
> created by Japanese chefs and caterers from over-lapping
> thin slices of food of different colors on a large plate or tray.
> Now that's a garnish.
>
> (Then again, I just like the idea of playing with my food. :-D
> I love the idea of applying kirigami and origami techniques
> to food.)
>

Not just Japanese, I've used folded dough, wantons, and tortillas. Folded
items papillote are common in French cookery, and pasta folding we've all
seen, if only at the level of tortellini and tortelloni, yet there are many
shapes and possibilities I've seen or done. Bouquets of thinly sliced and
arranged turnip and daikon 'flowers' are commonly used guarde mange for
banquets and displays. Also there are blitzes, blinis, stuffed grape leaves,
and even lotus packages filled with sticky rice. Even thin wood veneer is
used to wrap roasts or fish in, then fired in an oven to 'smoke' the item.
Playing with food is great, it's the most ephemeral of the art forms (if
you're willing to count it as such). All the best - c!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
With clear melting dew,
I'd try to wash away the dust
of this floating world
                      -Basho
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

email: ella-mae@msn.com





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 03:42
Subject: NO-Sacramento folder-types (come out come out, wherever you are...)

I was in Borders books today, and mentioned to the cashier that they should get
     in more origami books, as I already had everything that they were selling,
     whereupon I was told that some others had made the same comment. This is
     Borders in Sacramento, so I

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
With clear melting dew,
I'd try to wash away the dust
of this floating world
                      -Basho
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

email: ella-mae@msn.com





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 09:18
Subject: Re: Winnie the Pooh !

As far as I know, Disney don't own the Copyright to Aladdin and Tarzan,
although they have sucessfully sued a non-profit making childrens hospital
as a likeness of Mickey mouse appeared on a mural, for a LOT of money. How
about 'Evil capitalist paedophile rodent figure of hate?'

Anyway (he says reflecting on a hard day at work), if anyone comes across a
'Tigger' (either the Disney one, or the proper one) origami, my girlfriend
is mad about this ruddy thing, so I'd also appreciate diagrams. Experiments
with Montrolls inside-out tiger have ended up looking like it urgently
needed a vet.

Yours, (only 14 more hours until this shift finishes...)

Stephen

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From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 09:28
Subject: Origami Step-by-step

I've finally gotten around to ordering this book from amazon, and in arrived
over the weekend. What a jolly good read. For #3 ish, you get an impressive
range of models. The book first came out in 1974, and some of the models are
surprisingly complex, especially those by Patricia Crawford. I havent seen
many books of complex models before the Lang/Montroll era. I wonder, was
Patricia Crawford unique in the complexity of her models this long ago, and
contributed to a trend? Or was she simply years ahead of her time?

Also, did she go on to write any books of her own, or contribute to another
collection like 'Step by step'? Any more info on her?

All the best,

Stephen

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From: "Tomlinson, Kristine" <ktomlinson@CONCORD.COM>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 10:07
Subject: [NO] burning of paper charms

Hi Kenneth, Dee, and others,

One common Chinese use of paper charms is to burn them, then mix the ashes
with water and drink it as a potion.  This way you take in the protective
qualities of the charm.  Remember that written characters are considered
powerful themselves.  For example, painting the symbol for water on a
building protects it from fire.  I've got a book that elaborates on burning
paper charms -- I'll get the citation tonight.  As Kenneth wrote, messages,
paper clothes, and hell money are sent to the ancesters by burning.  In at
least one case I've read of, the gift/message is wrapped in blank paper
which has holes punched in it.  The holes are intended to confuse bad
spirits so that the gifts/messages get to the intended when burned.  It's
considered just like posting a package to the other world.  Similarly, in
Judaism the same is accomplished by writing prayers on small slips of paper
and tearing them up.  This is the equivalent of burning, so that it can go
to the world of spirit.

Regarding the Otoni, Puebla, Nahuatal ? Mexican Indians and their bark paper
-- I don't remember either if they burn the figures. I know they sprinkle
offerings and sacrifical chicken blood on them. So they are well used by the
end.  I *think* the shamans leave them on mountains or in special locations
where folks have to be careful not to stumble on them accidently.  As I
recall, some ceremonial figures are kept from year to year in special
cabinets and taken out for ceremonial use.  As in Asia, the paper figures
are sometimes dressed in cloth clothes.  The Sandstrom's have written at
least one impressive book on Mexican ceremonial paper cut figures which I
cited at this listserv a few years ago.

I'd never heard of making mosaic pictures from cranes -- sounds neat.  I
have seen Japanese 1000 crane "curtains" -- multiple strings that form a
picture.  It think it was filmed in a PBS special on Japan.  The only images
I remember off-hand were of something like Mickey Mouse or maybe a baseball
team logo, but don't quote me.  They must look great as they ripple in the
breeze.

Kristine Tomlinson (she's B-A-A-C-K :-)
Marlboro, MA, USA





From: "Gary W. Boyd" <mini@VOLSTATE.NET>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 10:12
Subject: Magician

Hello folders,

   Can anyone tell me who the artist is?  The picture is of an old
occidental waving paper in the air which turns into birds that fly away
 http://www.thok.dk/vanity2.html ).  Is it in the public domain?

          Gary Boyd
Constructive Alternatives
     mini@volstate.net

Creature Console
http://www.miniaturemonuments.com





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 10:20
Subject: Re: Origami Step-by-step

>>From: "Dr Stephen O'Hanlon" <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>

Hi Doc,

>>over the weekend. What a jolly good read. For #3 ish, you get an impressive
Agreed. Few books offer more bang-for-the-buck - just forget that awful
cover's color scheme...

>>surprisingly complex, especially those by Patricia Crawford. I havent seen
>>many books of complex models before the Lang/Montroll era. I wonder, was
Don't forget Viva! Origami was published ca. 1983, just a bit
after OftEnthusiast. Surely Yoshizawa had even earlier created highly complex
models, although we usually know only his more simple creations, which
has misled a lot of people about his true creativity.
On the other hand, by several reasons very few authors published original
origami books at that time, so most of the "classic" (no, I won't define
that term here) models are known only by magazines like The Flapping
Bird, BOS and other associations's booklets or collection books like
Harbin's.

>>Patricia Crawford unique in the complexity of her models this long ago, and
>>contributed to a trend? Or was she simply years ahead of her time?
Although certainly unique and impressive, she was not alone. Many
comtemporary works by Elias and Rohm are on a par regarding complexity
and elegance. Also, the 'double-subject' theme (two or more subjects
from a single paper, like the horse+rider, mermaid+seaweed,
squirrel+log) was once a trend, much like 3D, inside-out and closed
backs are today.
All three creators have fallen in undeserved obscurity today.

>>Also, did she go on to write any books of her own, or contribute to another
>>collection like 'Step by step'? Any more info on her?
She was mentioned in origami-l a few times, especially on how her
husband apparently forced her to give up creating.

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Lar deSouza <fresco@SENTEX.NET>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 10:20
Subject: Re: Patricia Crawford

Stephen,

I don't know much, but I know some more of her models are in the Harbin
book Origami 4.  I used to own this book (loaned out, never returned -
argh!) and it had the most wonderful baby grand piano :)  The thing that
has always struck me with her models was not only the fine modelling but
the 3d quality!  I nearly burst a brain vessel when I found Step by Step
back in print!  Luckily I was in one of those big bookstores with comfy
chairs and I could sit down and just let the adrenaline high wear off :)  I
saw the book when it came out in '74, but I was just starting out on
origami and it was way beyond me.  I'd never forgotten it though.

> I wonder, was
>Patricia Crawford unique in the complexity of her models this long ago, and
>contributed to a trend? Or was she simply years ahead of her time?

I vote for the latter :)  I still find her models among some of my favourites.

Lar





From: Marion Riley <marion-r@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 12:20
Subject: Re: Origami Step-by-step

   There is a link to a Patricia Crawford unicorn
at http://fold.net Also an eeyore diagram for the
Pooh fans at the same site.

                  Marion

http://community.webtv.net/marion-r/ModularOrigami





From: Bimal Ramesh Desai <desaib@MEDICINE.WUSTL.EDU>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 13:28
Subject: Re: Magician

> Hello folders,
>
>    Can anyone tell me who the artist is?  The picture is of an old
> occidental waving paper in the air which turns into birds that fly away
>  http://www.thok.dk/vanity2.html ).  Is it in the public domain?

Gary,

The print is by Katsushika Hokusai and is called "A Magician Turns Sheets
of Paper Into Birds".  It is a wood block print c. 1819.  This information
is from _Folding the Universe_ by Peter Engel.

-Bimal





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 13:32
Subject: Re: NO-Sacramento folder-types (come out come out, wherever you are...)

Did you leave Borders any contact information they could give
to any future people who comment on origami books?
You know, your name and phone number, or mail address,
or email address, a list of origami mailing lists, newsgroups, and
websites, whatever.

After all, Internet access isn't universal, and the Internet's a big
place that not everybody knows how to search.

Maybe an origami "trail of breadcrumbs" is in order.

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura  (a.k.a. "Mad")

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:32:33 -0400
Subject: NO-Sacramento folder-types (come out come out, wherever you are...)

I was in Borders books today, and mentioned to the cashier that they should
get in more origami books, as I already had everything that they were
selling, whereupon I was told that some others had made the same comment.
This is Borders in Sacramento, so I was wondering if there were any lurkers
or contributers out there in the area who might be on this list. Else, just
forget I ever mentioned it... All the best - c!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
With clear melting dew,
I'd try to wash away the dust
of this floating world
                      -Basho
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

email: ella-mae@msn.com





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 13:32
Subject: Re: Winnie the Pooh !

Umm .. I don't think Winnie the Pooh is a Disney character.
I expect they licensed him from the author's estate.
But, yes, somebody certainly owns the rights to the character.

Likewise, the Burroughs estate still owns Tarzan.

Used to be, there was a small number of invented
characters that had caught on and become some kind
of special intellectual property in their own right,
surviving the death of their creator, and were owned
by either their creators or their creators' estates, or
had been sold, like Superman, and were owned by
whoever bought them.

I dunno. Has the list gotten a lot larger recently?

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura (a.k.a. "Mad")

-----Original Message-----
From: Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 13:32:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Winnie the Pooh !

>I don't know of any designs for Winnie the Pooh. But it's a good idea and I
>will have a go at it. Mind you with Disney's attitude towards use of their
>characters, it will probably have to be called 'bear in a T shirt'. We
could
>do the other Disney characters that way too....
>
>Mickey Mouse - Mouse with stupid looking ears
>Donald Duck - Duck dressed up like a Japaneses schoolgirl
>Flik - Ant with 2 legs missing
>Tarzan - Man in underpants
>....
>
>Robin Glynn - Bald man with glasses





From: KADUKU <kaduku@CDEPOT.NET>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 13:49
Subject: Re: NO-Sacramento folder-types (come out come out,wherever you are...)

i live in amador county which is a 1 hour from sac.
 I now of one other folder who lives in stockton but works in sac.
is it borders in elk groove?
my name is frederique e. gullatt

> Christopher Holt wrote:
>
> I was in Borders books today, and mentioned to the cashier that they
> should get in more origami books, as I already had everything that
> they were selling, whereupon I was told that some others had made the
> same comment. This is Borders in Sacramento, so I was wondering if
> there were any lurkers or contributers out there in the area who might
> be on this list. Else, just forget I ever mentioned it... All the best
> - c!!!
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> With clear melting dew,
> I'd try to wash away the dust
> of this floating world
>                       -Basho
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> email: ella-mae@msn.com





From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 14:45
Subject: Re Magician.

The illustration Gary Boyd asked about is a famous Japanese print by the
artist Hokusai. It is shown on page 93 of "The Art of Origami" by Sam
Randlett, publ.1961, with a credit to "Mary Baum  (John Andreas collection)."
  The caption reads: "A Hokusai print illustrating a Japanese legend about a
magician who folded a paper crane so realistic that it came to life and flew
away." I believe the Metropolitan Museum in New York has a copy of the
original print. All best from Florence.





From: Allen Parry <parry@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 17:00
Subject: Getting a group started in Sacramento

On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Mad wrote:

> Did you leave Borders any contact information they could give
> to any future people who comment on origami books?

Better yet.  I heard of one affiliate group having success by putting a
postcard with contact information in all the origami books.  Not only
bookstores, but also the libraries.

Then there are the paper supply stores.  They're usually happy to post a
flyer. In Seattle, we found several through the paper stores.

Good luck.  Let me know if I can be of more help to anyone wanting to
start a folding group in your area.  There are several of us who can
impart our experience in helping you get off the ground.

Allen Parry
parry@eskimo.com





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <dinogami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 18:51
Subject: Re: Patricia Crawford

Hi All -

   I had a brief postal correspondence with Patricia Crawford many years ago
in my quest to track down all her models; in one form or another, the only
model of hers I don't have, and which hasn't been published anywhere to the
best of my knowledge, is a deer (I think), which I believe _is_ on file with
the BOS.  Her response to my letter was a few jotted notes on the back of
the same envelope I sent my letter to her in.  As I understand things, she
has left origami behind her, ne'er to return.  Her "Unicorn" remains one of
my personal favorite models; her "Stellate Octahedron" (from one of the old
"Origamian" issues) remains one of very few models I have yet to
successfully fold (I think there's something peculiar with the instructions,
although I have not figured out what as yet...)  Although I have an
original, I was pleased to see _Origami: Step-by-Step_ back in print...and
dismayed to note that the erroneous diagram in Step 2 of the "Mermaid" was
reprinted (not corrected!) as well!

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From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 03 Apr 2000 19:44
Subject: Pooh & Patricia Crawford

The BOS booklet by Anthony O'Hare has a lovely Pooh Bear. It is a side view
from a fish base. I am not sure if it is still in print.

>From Lillian, I had learned that Pat Crawford lead a very creative live in
origami but her husband made her quit.

She then turned to making ships in the bottles until her fame grew too great
there as well. He also made her give that up as well.

Lillian explained this all away as this was a different time when wives were
subservient to their husbands.

I suspect that Jay Nolan contacted her to publish her unicorn in his book so
she still must be around.

It would be good to see her at a convention.

Mark Kennedy





From: Phil Schulz <fyl@USWEST.NET>
Date: 04 Apr 2000 04:24
Subject: Four legged fox

Jeff Kerwood wrote on march 10th:

> Opposite "My Favorite Fox" on
> page 254 of Origami Omnibus there is a variation of "My Favorite Fox".
The
> trouble is that above the variation it say's "Try your hand at folding
the
> four legs from the kind of rectangular paper shown". Wellllll, I and
two
> friends tried for an embarrassingly long time to figure out how to
fold
the
> 4 legged variation and well, we couldn't figure it out. It looks like
it
> should be easy but... :-(.....
>
> Has anyone been able to fold this variation? If so,
HELLLLPPPPPPPP........
> (please :-)

I did manage to make a  four legged fox when I first got 'Origami
Omnibus'.  It's not identical to the one in the book, but it was close
enough to make me happy.

I scanned it in if anybody wants to look at it,  along with some step
fold pictures which may or may not be helpful.  You can see them at:
Http://fyl.xymox.net/fox.htm

And now, i shall go to bed.

Good night,
Phil

--
We've Moved! Please note the new e-mail and URL
FyL@uswest.net
Animal Stories and Star Wars Origami at:
http://fyl.xymox.net/





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 04 Apr 2000 06:06
Subject: Re: Four legged fox

Excellent taste in fox folds, but, being stricken with temporary insomnia, I
must play devil's advocate and say; 'who really needs anything besides "My
Favorite Fox"?'. I should have included that with my list of favorites, 'cuz
it's simple, hard, stylistic and very representative, all at the same time.
The four legged version is nice, but, as you noted, hard to get to look like
the beauty they have in the book. I guess it just takes more attempts (I
believe). The fox in Origami Zoo by Lang and Weiss is neat, as well,
although some fiddling with the ears works wonders. The key to My Favorite
Fox is the fold that brings the ears forward, the Four-Legged Fox replicates
the technique of that fold, but doesn't do as much justice to it by
de-emphasizing the body, instead making the body both another sheet of
paper, and difficult to replicate, as well. Montroll's fox in Animal Origami
for the Enthusiast is quite a nice fold, also. Off to drink some warm milk,
and seek the land of nod... All the best - c!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
With clear melting dew,
I'd try to wash away the dust
of this floating world
                      -Basho
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

email: ella-mae@msn.com





From: Nina Ostrun <gavs-413@MTU-NET.RU>
Date: 04 Apr 2000 15:10
Subject: Thank's everybody

Dear all!!!!

We are preparing International Origami Exhibition in Moscow.And we want to
     thank everybody who help us and especially V'Ann Cornelius who helped to
     oranize sending of American Folders' models.

@}-'-,-'-,---
Nina   mailto:gavs-413@mtu-net.ru





From: Joel Stern <Joel_Stern@CANDLE.COM>
Date: 04 Apr 2000 19:38
Subject: Pat Crawford

When I used to attend folding sessions at Lillian's apartment back in the 1970's
Pat Crawford was a living legend.  Though she never attended meetings, she was
always a topic of conversation. Here are some of the things I remember about
her:

- Harbin "discovered" her, and encouraged her creativity.  He really wrote the
book "Step-by-Step" to provide her a showcase.
- She would fold in spurts -- she would give herself three days to come up with
a model.  If by the end of that period she was unsuccessful, she would throw her
work on that model away and never revisit it.
- She ultimately gave up paperfolding for sculpting.

There was a wonderful profile of her in the Origamian many years ago.  I would
be happy to send someone a copy to scan and place on their web site.

Joel

Joel_Stern@candle.com





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 04 Apr 2000 23:37
Subject: JOAS membership updates

Dear All,

It has been brought to my attention that some JOAS magazine subscribers have
not received issues #59 & 60 yet.  According to Mr. Yamaguchi, several people
who were early subscribers paid only $30.00 membership fees.  The current fee
of $40.00 was established after the fact due to rising mailing costs.
Therefore, unless you paid the additional $10.00, you received only the first
four issues, #55-58.

If you are one of these people and would like to receive the remaining two
issues of Volume 10, please let me know.  If you send a check for $10.00 made
payable to me at the address below, I will make sure your membership is
updated.  If you want to renew your membership, you may do so at the same
time and change the amount of the check to $50.00.  I will ensure that the
corrections are made and your membership is updated at the end of this month.

Yours,

June Sakamoto
9 Merrill Drive
Mahwah, NJ  07430





From: Deg Farrelly <StickmanAZ@AOL.COM>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 00:37
Subject: *that* pop-up model

I bought the diagram from Shawn at a FOCA convention years ago, and now know
the model by heart.  I sometimes fold it as a tip for bartenders.

Since it was a privately published model, I will not copy it... but I am
happy to teach the model to others.

Don't think OUSA would let it be one of the officially taught models tho.

StickmanAZ@aol.com





From: CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 02:54
Subject: Re: Display

IN BOXES TO KEEP DUST OFF ....
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Anderson <manderso@ACAD2.DANA.EDU>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 9:06 AM
Subject: Display

> Ok. I have been folding for 3 months now. :-)
>
> I have given away LOTS of what I have folded, but still I am left
> with mounds of folded models. The top of the piano is completely
> packed. I have even taken all the cranes and thrown them into a bowl.
>
> What do you all DO with finished models? Where do you put them? Do
> you simply eliminate duplicates?
>
> There is a finite amount of space in our house and I think my wife
> would not want to see it spread from the piano to other surfaces. :-)
>
> Let's hear what everyone does.
>
> Michael





From: CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 03:01
Subject: Re: quicky

who is RPLsmn@aol.com????????
----- Original Message -----
From: <RPlsmn@AOL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 12:14 PM
Subject: quicky

> Montroll's Grasshopper by the way
>                                                          RPLSMN





From: CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 03:18
Subject: Re: [ousa-members] Classic Origami Models

hi
----- Original Message -----
From: Ella-mae <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ousa-members] Classic Origami Models

> I know this response is a bit late--my system crashed--but I'd like to put
> my own two cents in... Everyone has what can be called 'classics' that
they
> personally  view as embodying the soul of origami. For me, Momotani's
> seagull, Hulme's Jack-in-the-box, Engel's valentine, the flapping bird,
both
> traditional and Randlett's, the crane, Fuse's triangular boxes, and Lang's
> flapping seagull are all classics. The cup, waterbomb, and salt-cellar are
> also classics in that they are ubiquitous, and often are the only models
> that some learn, and therefore take origami outside the fold of pure
> folders. One should also consider traditional funerary offerings, napkin,
> nappi, and envelope and letter folds as being classic. I think that the
> lexicon of origami, having gone through an explosion of new and innovative
> techniques in the last few decades, has expanded the concept of 'classic'
> folds, as the diversity of favorites that people have and discuss on this
> list gives testament to. On another subject that was discussed about the
> time my 'puter went south, Momotani's seagull also falls in the realm of
> fool-proof origami. It's hard to end up with something that doesn't fly,
but
> then I just can't say enough about that model. I have about a hundred of
> them lying around (my cat loves them), and I always leave one or two
behind
> wherever I visit. Glad to be back on line! All the best - c!!!
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> With clear melting dew,
> I'd try to wash away the dust
> of this floating world
>                       -Basho





From: CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 03:20
Subject: Re: NO (test)

hi
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Christopher Holt
  To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
  Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 12:12 AM
  Subject: NO (test)

  Much as I try to retain control of this infernal machine, it keeps imposing
     its own name on all my accounts. Just checking to make sure that this is
     from me...All the best - c!!!

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  With clear melting dew,
  I'd try to wash away the dust
  of this floating world
                        -Basho





From: CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 03:24
Subject: Re: quicky

and what dose RPLSMN   MEAN???????hummmm
----- Original Message -----
From: CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: quicky

> who is RPLsmn@aol.com????????
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <RPlsmn@AOL.COM>
> To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 12:14 PM
> Subject: quicky
>
>
> > Montroll's Grasshopper by the way
> >                                                          RPLSMN





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 04:48
Subject: Re: Winnie the Pooh !

Didn't Disney buy the rights to Winnie the Pooh & co?

-------------------------
        Allan   (ICQ 65208096)

-----Original Message-----
From: Mad [mailto:madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET]
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 6:18 PM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Winnie the Pooh !

Umm .. I don't think Winnie the Pooh is a Disney character.
I expect they licensed him from the author's estate.
But, yes, somebody certainly owns the rights to the character.

<snip>





From: Tom May <MayTom431@AOL.COM>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 06:38
Subject: Kimono folds

I'm looking for diagrams of kimono folds. If anyone knows of good books,
web-sites, etc., let me know. I'm also interested in any information on
Japanese traditions concerning the paper construction of kimonos. I have been
looking on the web, and I'm surprised at how little I find on this subject. I
am new to the web so perhaps my search skills are at fault. Any pointers are
welcome.

Thanks, Tom May (maytom@aol.com)





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 07:21
Subject: Re: *that* pop-up model

Deg Farrelly <StickmanAZ@AOL.COM> sez

>Since it was a privately published model, I will not copy it... but I am
>happy to teach the model to others.

Copy it if you wish - I'm not embarrased!

>Don't think OUSA would let it be one of the officially taught models tho.

Nor the BOS ;)

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    www.britishorigami.org.uk





From: Tom May <MayTom431@AOL.COM>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 07:43
Subject: Kimono folds

Please excuse my foolishness. I listed the wrong e-mail address in the body
of my message. I hope no one was inconvenienced. I'm probably compounding my
superfluous idiocy. I'd better get some sleep before I do anything else silly.

Sincerely, Tom May





From: Lar deSouza <fresco@SENTEX.NET>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 08:23
Subject: Re: Kimono folds

Dear Tom,

Funny you should bring this up, as I've been folding kimonos just the past
couple days :)  Both Honda's "World of Origami" and Harbin's "Secrets of
Origami" have a traditional kimono fold in them.  Both require a 3x1 piece
of paper to fold and are quite easy.  I have no further information on
Japanese tradition regarding kimonos though.

Hope this helps.

Lar





From: Marion Riley <marion-r@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 08:38
Subject: Re: Kimono folds

Lar & Tom-

 Check this site for one of my favorite kimono
folds  http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/k.html

                  Marion

http://community.webtv.net/marion-r/ModularOrigami





From: RPlsmn@AOL.COM
Date: 05 Apr 2000 09:05
Subject: Re: quicky

why?





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@MOEBIUS.INKA.DE>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 09:54
Subject: Re: JOAS membership updates

On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 11:35:55PM -0400, Foldmaster@AOL.COM wrote:
> It has been brought to my attention that some JOAS magazine
> subscribers have not received issues #59 & 60 yet.  According to
> Mr. Yamaguchi, several people who were early subscribers paid only
> $30.00 membership fees.

I paid only 3000 yen, and my issues came with a little piece of paper
that said that 3000 yen wouldn't cover the mailing costs, so some issues
would be sent together -- but it didn't say that I wouldn't receive some
issues at all. :-(( Thanks for bringing this to my attention; I was
still waiting for the issues be delivered together.

(Not really nice, that, first saying I would get all issues and then
withholding two without telling me anything ... Grmbl grmbl ... Makes
you consider whether you should renew your membership after all
... Grmbl grmbl ...)

--
Yours, Sebastian <skirsch@moebius.inka.de>

You know you've been hacking too long when you count things with your
fingers in binary.





From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 10:57
Subject: Re: Spirals and teaching models

Well, I guess of you're teaching in a one one one or one on a very few
situation you can do harder stuff. I generally teach anywhere from 15 to
25 people at a time... and you just can't do the harder stuff...

But even with my group, most of whom have been folding for several years
now we barely got through Yoda in the two hours allotted for our
meeting.

  Beginners can do some pretty amazing things when you give them enough
> time and guidance!  Waaaaaay back when I started the now-defunct (?) Front
> Range Origami Guild in Denver, it was only about 5 people,





From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 10:57
Subject: Re: NO-Sacramento folder-types (come out come out, wherever you are...)

You know, it is interesting you bring this up -- I can go to the local
Borders and see a book and decide not to get it that day... go back the
next day (or a couple of days later) and it will be gone! Same with
origami paper. I generally don't buy it at Michael's anymore, but I
always check "just to make sure" there isn't anything new that I might
have missed, and it gets sold out really fast! (I thought they just
never got it in, so I asked and the clerk said it leaves as fast as they
put it up --- why don't they buy MORE then?!)

 Any Denver lurkers?

> I was in Borders books today, and mentioned to the cashier that they
> should get in more origami books, .... if
> there were any lurkers or contributers out there in the area who might
> be on this list.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> With clear melting dew,
> I'd try to wash away the dust
> of this floating world
>                       -Basho
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> email: ella-mae@msn.com





From: Ron Arruda <arruda@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 11:15
Subject: Re: *that* pop-up model

Wonderful! Underground models! I love it!

Ron Arruda

On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Deg Farrelly wrote:

> I bought the diagram from Shawn at a FOCA convention years ago, and now know
> the model by heart.  I sometimes fold it as a tip for bartenders.
>
> Since it was a privately published model, I will not copy it... but I am
> happy to teach the model to others.
>
> Don't think OUSA would let it be one of the officially taught models tho.
>
> StickmanAZ@aol.com





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 05 Apr 2000 11:52
Subject: Re: JOAS membership updates

In a message dated 04/05/2000 9:54:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
skirsch@MOEBIUS.INKA.DE writes:

<< On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 11:35:55PM -0400, Foldmaster@AOL.COM wrote:
 > It has been brought to my attention that some JOAS magazine
 > subscribers have not received issues #59 & 60 yet.  According to
 > Mr. Yamaguchi, several people who were early subscribers paid only
 > $30.00 membership fees.

 I paid only 3000 yen, and my issues came with a little piece of paper
 that said that 3000 yen wouldn't cover the mailing costs, so some issues
 would be sent together -- but it didn't say that I wouldn't receive some
 issues at all. :-(( Thanks for bringing this to my attention; I was
 still waiting for the issues be delivered together.

 (Not really nice, that, first saying I would get all issues and then
 withholding two without telling me anything ... Grmbl grmbl ... Makes
 you consider whether you should renew your membership after all
 ... Grmbl grmbl ...)
  >>

Dear Sebatian,

I have not seen the enclosure you are referring to.  It was probably written
in English by a Japanese person so the written context may have been a little
confusing. (Imagine how difficult it would be for you to make such an
explanation in a foreign language!)  However, I believe the message was there
-- that your subsciption fee of $30 was insufficient to cover the mailing
costs.

If you assumed you would still receive all six issues, the fault would be
yours.   There was no intention to deliberately cheat you out of the last two
issues of Volume 10.  The rest of the JOAS members (myself included) paid
$40.00 to receive six issues.

Yours,

June Sakamoto





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 12:42
Subject: Re: Winnie the Pooh !

I don't know, but I doubt it. I think the estate would
be foolish to get rid of a valuable property like that.
Can you say "money machine"?    :-D

(Apologies if I'm quoting too  much here. It's a
judgement call, and my judgement is suspect.)

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura

-----Original Message-----
From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@CREATIONS.CO.UK>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 12:42:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Winnie the Pooh !

>Didn't Disney buy the rights to Winnie the Pooh & co?
>
>-------------------------
>        Allan   (ICQ 65208096)
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mad [mailto:madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET]
>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 6:18 PM
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Winnie the Pooh !
>
>
>Umm .. I don't think Winnie the Pooh is a Disney character.
>I expect they licensed him from the author's estate.
>But, yes, somebody certainly owns the rights to the character.
>
><snip>





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 05 Apr 2000 13:37
Subject: Re: Kimono folds

Aloha Tom May and the list,

"kimono folds"?

I wasn't sure whether you were asking for information on

(1) Origami folds that represented kimonos,
      (a) there's the old traditional one that someone's already
            mentioned in another response, which, by the way,
            can be adapted to a dollar bill;

     (b) and somewhere I have a sample of a different one,
            folded out of what looks like a square handkerchief
            and sold as a decorative craft item, I'll look for it,

      (c) and there are the traditional (?) japanese long thin flat
            paper dolls, I've got a little book about them
            somewhere  here, "anesama ningyo" dolls,
            "elder sister" dolls, I think they were called,
            remind me later to go look for that book;

(b) how to make a usable kimono by folding, I don't know of a
      workable kimono fold;

(c) how and to fold the cloth when making a real kimono,
      no information;

(d) how to fold a kimono, for storage I would guess, like folding
      laundry, I'm sure there's a right way, but I don't know it;

(e) how to add decorative folds to a real  kimono, sorry, I draw
      a blank on this possibility, too.

Books, websites?  I'll look around. Sorry, I don't have a list handy,
and don't have time for more than a quick answer right now.

Paper construction of kimonos?

The only reference I remember is a section in one book on a
Japanese tradition, in a particular village, like so many things
in Japan, this is a regional specialty, where sheets of white
paper are slit into thin strips, which are then carefully rolled
into threads, which are woven into cloth, which is then cut and
sewn to make kimonos. A very labor-intensive process. Was
that maybe what you were looking for? I'll look for the book,
later, to get more details.

"... I'm surprised at how little I find on this subject. I
am new to the web ..."

I think the problem is more that the Web itself is relatively
new. There's still lots of stuff that hasn't made it into the web,
plus more and more stuff falling out of the web, as people
die or lose their accounts or whatever.  And, of course,
an awful lot of the pre-existing stuff is covered by copyright,
so it won't make it to the web, at least not legally and
ethically.

You might try looking in your "bricks and mortar" library
under papercrafts.

Aloha,
"Mad"  (Kenneth M. Kawamura)

"Oh! My ears and whiskers! I'm late ..." -- W.R.
