




From: "Mark Y. McKinnon" <mym@LUCENT.COM>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 07:37
Subject: Re: lover's knot

Thank you for all of the input on the lover's knot.
I have most of the books mentioned and will fun
folding to night.

Mark





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 07:43
Subject: Re: (NO) Did anyone figure out the error message

Aloha Dave Stephenson,

I think the error message is an artifact caused by
you sending from the AOL browser using (I'm
guessing, based on similar experience) the AOL
format for an annotated email address, where
the address itself goes first, followed by a
descriptive label or nickname in parentheses.

It looks to me like the AOL browser ignores
what's in the parentheses and just displays
that as a label. But when it ships it outside of the
AOL network, thru the gateway to the Internet,
it doesn't seem to know to convert to non-AOL
format.

I'm not really sure what the difference is. I just know
that in Microsoft Internet Explorer, regular email
addresses seem to display label-first, then the
address in angle-brackets.

The errors I got were consistent with Outlook Express
trying to read the AOL format, complete with
parentheses, and, because it didn't recognize the
parentheses as a grouping signal (must be looking
for something else), breaking the string of addresses
at each space, and objecting to the odd leftover parts.

Try just using the plain e-mail address,
name@something.something without
anything in parentheses.

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:43:49 -0500
Subject: (NO) Did anyone figure out the error message

>>>Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
>>>
>>>terryh,LAMG BBS (The name was not found at the remote site. Check that
the
>>>name has been entered correctly.)
>
>?
>Dave





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 07:58
Subject: Reaching the stage of simple origami!

My first books were by Montroll and Lang, as a result of which Im used to
having every fold laid out nicely for me and the end product resembling its
real life counterpart due to its anatomical correctness etc..

Yesterday I received the Yoshizawa Book I ordered from Kims Crane, due to
this I have come to realise complex origami isn't that complicated. Anyone
can fold Langs Ant or Issei's stegosaur and it will look good if you reach
the end, however try folding the Bunnies from the Yoshizawa Book and you
realise that even though theres less than 20 easy steps in order to actually
make it look good requires more skill than you would ever need for complex
origami. As a result my folding area is littered with snowballs with ears
which I am assured by the book can be formed into something that really looks
like a rabbit, i'll tell you if I manage this feat :) )

C'ya
Dave

(Of course I am willing to accept it may mearly need different skills to
those required for complex origami, but I just dont feel like it at the
moment... theres a snowball with ears that seems to be laughing at me... lets
see if my little Jack Russell recognises it as a rabbit...)





From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 12:08
Subject: Booklist

To the Walkers: I have been trying to send you a message but it keeps being
returned to me. Could you please get in touch with me at Ftemko@aol.com. Best
from Florence.





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 21 Mar 2000 12:48
Subject: Re: Craig Kilborne T.V. Show

Does anyone know of this Italian person Enio something or other who was on
the Craig Kilborne T.V. show at 1:30 A.M during the night and did this act
using his clothing as Origami paper and folded it somehow into a butterfly
and other models.  My friend saw it and this is all she could tell me except
that it was really great and very interesting.....I would love to know more
about him and his act......Dorigami





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 13:10
Subject: Mini meeting

Hello,
        I'll be holding a Mini Meeting on 26th March in Cairneyhill, Scotland.
     If
anyone is interested, e-mail me at TheWalkers@iname.com for
details/directions,

                                Dennis Walker





From: Evi <d.evi.l@MUENSTER.DE>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 13:18
Subject: who knows the creator?

Forgive me please for sending this attachment. Does anybody know, who
created this model? I'd like to publish it in our fairy-tale booklet and
would like to ask the creator for his/her permission. Is it from Vinicio? If
so, who knows his e-mail
address?

Happy folding!
Evi





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 21 Mar 2000 14:00
Subject: Re: Craig Kilborne T.V. Show

In a message dated 3/21/00 1:48:05 PM, DORIGAMI@AOL.COM writes:

<< Does anyone know of this Italian person Enio something or other who was on
the Craig Kilborne T.V. show at 1:30 A.M during the night and did this act
using his clothing as Origami paper and folded it somehow into a butterfly
and other models.  My friend saw it and this is all she could tell me except
that it was really great and very interesting.....I would love to know more
about him and his act......Dorigami





From: Bimal Ramesh Desai <desaib@MEDICINE.WUSTL.EDU>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 14:41
Subject: Re: (NO) Did anyone figure out the error message

> I think the error message is an artifact caused by
> you sending from the AOL browser using (I'm
> guessing, based on similar experience) the AOL
> format for an annotated email address, where
> the address itself goes first, followed by a
> descriptive label or nickname in parentheses.

I got the same error message when I sent my last post and I didn't use an
AOL browser.  I suspect what happened is that the user "Terry@lamg.com"
(I think that's what the error message said) changed email addresses, and
some of us who sent posts got an error message when the message couldn't
be delivered to the old address.

-B





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 15:05
Subject: Re: Mini meeting

Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM> sez

> I'll be holding a Mini Meeting on 26th March in Cairneyhill, Scotland. If
>anyone is interested, e-mail me at TheWalkers@iname.com for
>details/directions,

Best of luck Dennis, I'll have a look on the map & see where it is!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    www.britishorigami.org.uk





From: Alan Shutko <ats@ACM.ORG>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 15:28
Subject: Re: (NO) Did anyone figure out the error message

Mad <madhawn@concentric.net> writes:

> I think the error message is an artifact caused by
> you sending from the AOL browser using (I'm
> guessing, based on similar experience) the AOL
> format for an annotated email address, where
> the address itself goes first, followed by a
> descriptive label or nickname in parentheses.

That's a valid RFC 822 address format, so that's probably not the
problem.

When I last looked at the error, it looked like a standard error that
you get when the list is trying to deliver to an address which doesn't
exist.  (Ie, someone moved, account got closed, temporary failure,
that kind of thing.)  Those errors are supposed to be delivered to the
list manager, but there are a lot of broken mail servers out there
which don't.

--
Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> - In a variety of flavors!
234 days, 19 hours, 14 minutes, 44 seconds till we run away.
Good day for overcoming obstacles.  Try a steeplechase.





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 17:24
Subject: Re: (NO) Did anyone figure out the error message

Aloha Bimal Ramesh Desai,

Yep,  I think you're right and I was wrong.
The clincher is that I just got the same error
message in response to my posting,
and I was sending from Outlook Express,
not AOL.  :-D

What a nuisance!

My apologies for the wrong guess.

Mahalo,
Kenneth Kawamura

-----Original Message-----
From: Bimal Ramesh Desai
    <snip>
>I got the same error message when I sent my last post and I didn't use an
>AOL browser.  I suspect what happened is that the user "Terry@lamg.com"
>(I think that's what the error message said) changed email addresses, and
>some of us who sent posts got an error message when the message couldn't
>be delivered to the old address.
>
>-B





From: Howard Portugal <howardpo@MICROSOFT.COM>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 17:32
Subject: PCOC Report (long)

I returned from PCOC Sunday night and thought that y'all might want a quick
report.

Several of us from the Seattle paperfolding group (PAPER) went down to San
Francisco for PCOC. Some arrived on Thursday but the group that I was with
arrived early Friday afternoon. The hotel was a short, not unpleasent
shuttle bus ride from the airport and check-in went without a hitch. After
unloading my stuff in the room I wandered on down to the Mezzanine level of
the hotel where the festivities were taking place. It turned out that we
were sharing the floor with a New Age type of convention which was mainly
concerned with the mind-altering and perhaps medical properties of a certain
plant (not marijuana) but I cannot remember the name right now. Anyway,
throughout the weekend we were mixing with folks that would have been
completely at home in SFO's Haight-Ashbury district 30 years ago. I found
some old friends and we hung out and chatted until registration started
around 7pm.

Registration was much like a NYC convention, with some added bonuses. Each
attendee was given one of Mark Kennedy's wonderful pins. There was a large
variety available. We were also given a copy of OUSA's Models by Members Vol
1 and a copy of the PCOC convention book. I kind of expected a convention
book, but the pin and Models by Members were a pleasent surprise After
registration several of us headed off to an Indian restaurant for dinner. We
came back later and folded in the main ballroom until about midnight when
were were asked to leave because they were closing up.

Saturday morning things really started up. Ticketing was at 8:30 and there
was a NY style model menu to peruse. Ticketing went quickly and even though
I had #134 and didn't show up until #180 was called, I didn't get locked out
of any of my classes. I chose:
        16-page book
        Single sheet Flower Box
        Mette Ring
        Robert Lang's Modular (4 intersecting triangles)

Classes were held in the main ballroom and several other nearby rooms. The
ballroom was more than large enough to accomodate several classes without
them interfering with each other (it was similar to the arrangement at ORCA,
but on a larger scale.)

After my morning class several of us strolled a few blocks (5 I think) up to
Japan town and the Paper Tree and Kinokunia to buy books and paper. The
selections of both were good and convention attendees received a 10%
discount at both stores. I purchased a Kasahara book, sorry it was Japanese
and I cannot read the title, and had him autograph it. We took longer than
expected at lunch so I missed the Flower Box class. It was just as well
anyway as a friend who took it on Sunday was able to teach me. Robert Lang's
modular class went well and a few folks even finished the model before the
end of the class period. I didn't, but I finished it over dinner. According
to Robert, the model was inspired by Tom Hull's 5 intersecting Tetrahedra.
Anyway, the units aren't too bad to fold, but like in all modulars, the
assembly is tough. Robert mentioned something about diagrams being available
in this summer's OUSA convention book. After the class, he decided to cancel
his 60 unit modular that he had planned on teaching on Sunday and instead
teach a Koi due to the amount of time it took us to complete the 12 units
for our class.

The dinner Saturday night was quite good and the Entertainment was hosted by
our very own Origami MC Johnathan Baxter. There was a story by Gay Gross,
then an Origami game show hosted by Johnathan, Brian Cox did some string
figures, and there was another gent who did some juggling. The evening led
up to Jeremy Shafer's act. Jeremy showed some flashers, did some juggling,
and then went outside to do more juggling with unicycle riding and fire. He
claimed that he didn't get burned, but it looked like it was close to me.
After the show, some of us adjourned to a local drinking establishment to do
some folding and catching-up.

Sunday's ticketing was about the same as Saturday and I decided to take the
following classes:
Rhododendron
Modular Ball
Koi
Santa Claus

The classes all went well and the teachers were great. I opted to not go up
to Japan town at lunch but I asked a friend to pick up some more of 2 types
of paper which I had purchased on Saturday. When she caught up with me later
on in the afternoon she had to sadly report that it had already been
purchased and they were all out. Later on in the afternoon things kind of
winded down and there were the inevitable good-byes and "see ya at the next
convention's" and we were off to the airport to return home.

I didn't mention the exhibition which was quite nice, I don't want to miss
anyone, so I'll just say that there were many exquisite models on display by
a variety of folders in addition to an Origami-by-children display.

All in all, I had a good time and will, if my schedule permits, return for
the next one.

Howard





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 18:07
Subject: Re: who knows the creator?

Evi,
At 19.14 21/3/2000 +0100, you wrote:

>Forgive me please for sending this attachment. Does anybody know, who
>created this model? I'd like to publish it in our fairy-tale booklet and
>would like to ask for permission. Is it from Vinicio? Who knows the e-mail
>address?

For sure it was not written by an Italian: the correct spelling is
PINOCCHIO, not PINOKKIO......
Who is Vinicio ?
Evi, in 1983 we made a world competition-exhibition "Origami for
Pinocchio", with 100s of entries. Its catalog has been published in book
form with lots of models related to the novel (including diagrams). The
best one was the 1st-prize-winner model by Alfredo Giunta. The one you
attached does not look particularly attractive.....

Roberto





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 21:39
Subject: Re: who knows the creator?

> For sure it was not written by an Italian: the correct spelling is
>  PINOCCHIO, not PINOKKIO......

Perhaps Unkie Walt has a copyright on this too ?

(^_^)
Dave





From: CQBERKEY3 <CQBERKEY3@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 22:10
Subject: Re: Testing...(NO)

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To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 3:45 AM
Subject: Testing...(NO)

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>
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From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
Date: 21 Mar 2000 23:17
Subject: Oribana CDs were sent

Note to all who ordered Oribana before March 1st. All CDs were sent from
Russia at the beginning of March and you should have received your by now. If
you did not, please contact me privately.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Evi <d.evi.l@MUENSTER.DE>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 03:26
Subject: Re: who knows the creator?

Dear Robby,

thank you very much for the information! How do I get in contact with
Alfredo? Unfortunately he didn't send any contributions for our booklet yet.
I am very interested in his Pinocchio diagrams.

Happy folding!
Evi





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 09:45
Subject: Re: who knows the creator?

Dave,
At 21.39 21/3/2000 EST, you wrote:
>> For sure it was not written by an Italian: the correct spelling is
>>  PINOCCHIO, not PINOKKIO......
>
>Perhaps Unkie Walt has a copyright on this too ?

Oh, maybe..... If I remember well, in the cartoon movie the spelling was
correct.
May I add that I've seen other wrong variants: PINOCHIO, PINNOCHIO,
PINNOCCHIO and more. A pizza shop in Amsterdam is proudly named PINOCCIO.....

Roberto





From: Andy Wilson <andy@STARFALL.COM>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 11:05
Subject: What's a blintz frog base?

I'm trying to make Kalei Lundberg's calyx for the Kawasaki rose, and
I'm stuck at step zero: what's a blintz frog base?  It's not in any
book I have, not on the web (at least by that name), and I wasn't able
to reinvent it based on the pictures.

Can some kind soul tell me what this is, how it differs from a normal
frog base, or where I could find instructions?

Thanks!

-- Andy

--
Andy Wilson              |
Ying tong iddle i po!    |                  andy@starfall.com
                         |  CERTE, TOTO, SENTIO NOS IN KANSATE IAM NON ADESSE





From: Ron Arruda <arruda@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 11:09
Subject: Ennio Marchetto

The performer who uses paper costumes is Ennio Marchetto, currently
appearing in San Francisco (till May 7). I don't know whether his outfits
are origami or not. You can read reviews of his act in newpaper back
issues by looking up his name in your library news index. He's been doing
his act for several yers now.

Ron Arruda





From: Craig Willis <Craig.Willis@CHELSEAFC.NET>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:12
Subject: Hi from new member

I don't know whether or not this is the done thing but as a new member I
     thought I'd introduce myself.

Name: Craig Willis
Age:    29
Location:    Bristol, England
Favourite Origami Fold:    Joseph Wu's Great White Shark.

What are other folders favourite pieces??

Regards

Craig





From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:21
Subject: Insects book at Ebay!

Hi everybody!

I think you insect enthusiasts out there should take a look here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=289617736
Great book isn't it? Too bad I don't have the money nor the ability to do such
complex models :P
Hope you will like it :)
                           Anine

____________________________________________________________________
Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1





From: "Melissa D. Johnson" <johnsonm@ACU.EDU>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:33
Subject: Re: What's a blintz frog base?

Andy Wilson wrote:
> I'm stuck at step zero: what's a blintz frog base?  It's not in any

Well, a blintz base can be found at:

http://library.thinkquest.org/27152/towns/oriville/oriver/practice/b_forms.htm

Then, I think you just do the frog base from the blintz base. Is that
correct?

Melissa Dawn :)
http://MelissaDawn.Johnson.org/origami.html

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From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:59
Subject: Re: What's a blintz frog base?

Andy asked:

>I'm stuck at step zero: what's a blintz frog base?

    Start color side up, fold all four corners to the center. Fold a
preliminary base, then squash and petal fold each flap... a frog base. You
then have to extract the original four corners, which entails unfolding each
petal fold and partially opening the model. When the corner is free, refold
the petal. Repeat on the other corners, and you'll have what you need to
continue the calyx.

    And thank you Kalei, the calyx is a great addition to the Kawasaki Rose!
It works with the Winson Chan version, too.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: "Antonio Erlindo Braga Jr." <erlindo@AMAZON.COM.BR>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 15:12
Subject: Furniture

    Where do I find furniture folds ? I mean Internet sites ...

    Thanks,

            Antonio Erlindo





From: William Nelson <wnelson18@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 15:16
Subject: BOS 200

Hi Lorenzo
No, thank you. I received BOS 200 an hour after I sent the email.
William





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 16:49
Subject: Booklist. Plea for Help!

Hello,

        As you are probably aware, I have started a list of published origami
     books
for the BOS website. There is a lot to do!

        However, I have a slight problem. One particular author is causing me
     some
considerable grief! Ms. Tomoko Fuse's huge output is appearing in lists sent
to me time and time again. Variation in translation is causing me to have
difficulty identifying and eliminating duplicates.

        Ideally, I would like someone to willingly sacrifice themselves to the
     task
of compiling a list of ONLY Ms. Fuse's books!

        Please! Pretty Please! :-)

                Yours, suddenly realising exactly what he's taken on

                                                Dennis Walker





From: Tommy <twstevens@HOME.COM>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 17:35
Subject: Re: Booklist. Plea for Help!

There is a web page that has a very good compilation of Tomoko Fuse's
books.

Check out Rosa's Fuse Bibliography web page
http://members.aol.com/rrosalinda/Fuse.html

It may be just the resource you need.

Regards,
Tommy





From: Desdemona Taylor <Thalassa5@AOL.COM>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 17:38
Subject: Re: Hi from new member

Dear Mr. Willis,
  My husband and I will be going to England in May.  Where is Bristol, by the
way?
I only do modular (30 and 60 piece construction) origami which some
individuals do not consider origami at all.

Eleanor Andujar





From: "Sandra P. Hoffman" <ghidra@HOME.COM>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 19:08
Subject: Re: Reaching the stage of complex origami!

On 15 Mar 2000, at 10:51, Michael Anderson wrote:

> I wonder if there is a curriculum - a strategy or a sequential
> tutorial that can take you from point a to point b systematically
> without a live teacher.. Has anyone considered doing such a thing?

If no one else has mentioned it yet (I'm behind on my mail and
haven't looked ahead) I found Montroll's Teach Yourself Origami to
be very useful for bringing me closer to being able to do complex
origami. I did not skip through the early easy stuff. I did everything
and redid it if I did not get it perfect. I was a much better folder after
disciplining myself to work through the book a bit each day.

I also find that, as I am an on again off again folder, that I should
practice on easy low complexity folds before trying a complex or
difficult piece. I make sure I am doing easy to moderate folds
perfectly and am in good practice, and folding precisely first.

Then I use large 10-12" practice sheets for the first couple of times
through. Although some of my efforts become crumplegami, I try to
push through a model even if I can't get one part of it. I can often
fiddle around till I get something that is either an approximation or
will allow me to work past the problem area and continue with the
model. You can get some interesting variations this way, and you
get practice on the rest of the model so that you have a nice end
result when you do finally get the problem part resolved.

Still, there are models that I never expect to be skilled enough to
do. I don't do origami obsessively enough to get there with my
limited natural talent. But that is fine, because I really enjoy
working with fine paper and producing simple models that become
works of great beauty when I create a perfect harmony between
model and paper.

sph





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 20:43
Subject: Re: Hi from new member

> I only do modular (30 and 60 piece construction) origami which some
>  individuals do not consider origami at all.
>
>  Eleanor Andujar

Now thats not true... we all consider each individual unit folded from a
square without cutting or gluing to be origami (^_^).

Dave





From: Howard Portugal <howardpo@MICROSOFT.COM>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 20:54
Subject: Re: Hi from new member

Since when do the units have to be from a square, hmmmmmmmmmm?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Stephenson [mailto:EruditusD@AOL.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 5:43 PM
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: Hi from new member
>
>
> > I only do modular (30 and 60 piece construction) origami which some
> >  individuals do not consider origami at all.
> >
> >  Eleanor Andujar
>
> Now thats not true... we all consider each individual unit
> folded from a
> square without cutting or gluing to be origami (^_^).
>
> Dave





From: "B. Becker" <gryfebecker.b@SYMPATICO.CA>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 21:35
Subject: Business conference folds

Hi all.  I have been a lurker for a few months and have been impressed with the
level of skill and creativity of the regulars here.

I now have a question, please:

Can anyone recommend non-complex  folds that can be done with rectangular paper
where the exact proportion is not that important?  I am looking for things I can
fold quietly (and surreptitiously) at speaker conferences, where the hotel or
the organizers provide those little pads of paper for notes. ( Trying to tear
them into squares is usually too noisy.)

This is my version of doodling, when the speaker is less than enthralling.

Brenda





From: Darryl Sheldon <Johydee1126@AOL.COM>
Date: 22 Mar 2000 22:37
Subject: Another new member with questions

Hi everyone!  I've been following this list for a couple of weeks now and am
very impressed.  Everyone seems to be friendly and helpful.  These days on
the web its hard to find that combination when you get more than two people
writing\chatting to a group.  WAY COOL!!
   I have a dillema and maybe someone here can help.  I have found a really
neat dragon on the C.D.O. website titled Draghi, but I cant figure out how to
make figures 3 & 4 on page 2\11.  If anyone can enlighten me at all I would
totally appreciate it.
    Thanks in advance





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 00:30
Subject: Re: Business conference folds

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, B. Becker wrote:

> Can anyone recommend non-complex  folds that can be done with rectangular
     paper
> where the exact proportion is not that important?

Greetings Brenda,

Yes, there is a booklet published through the British Origami Society by
John Morgan on just such a subject! The models range from simple to
complex, and all were created in similar circumstances to what you
described ie. doodling with notpad paper without changing the shape.

John has also published two further booklets using "A" proportioned paper.

Thankyou for asking this question Brenda - I have been egging for a chance
to promote our local talent :-}

regards
Michael Janssen-Gibson





From: Kernan Jang <kernan@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 00:35
Subject: new on list & coating origami

Hi everybody, I'm new to the list. I'm also one of the people who went to
PCOC, which was my first convention, and now I'm going to try this.
    Is anybody out there at Cal or in Berkeley (got you PC) or in Marin
county?
    Do people really need to tell the rest of the country about their local
meetings though?
    What does everybody use to coat their models, as in for jewelry and
decorations? Do some papers work better than others?
    Thank you Mark Kennedy for the pins at PCOC. What was used for the mask
of pan pins? Red washi on embossed foil? Is Mark the one who runs The Paper
Dragon? Where is he? I didn't get a chance to buy, but I don't want to pay
shipping, so please tell me he's a Bay Area resident.
    Kasahara's Mask of Pan is from the bird base, right?
    Thanks all, happy folds,
Kernan Jang
kernan@uclink4.berkeley.edu





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 00:49
Subject: Re: new on list & coating origami

At 09:12 PM 3/22/00 -0800, Kernan Jang <kernan@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU>  wrote:
>>    Kasahara's Mask of Pan is from the bird base, right?

That was one of my favorite models. It is from a stretched bird base folded
in half. The upper flap becomes the eyes, nose and upper lip, and the back
flap becomes the lower lip. If I am wrong, this is merely evidence of what
happens from not folding a model after a decade or so.

Marc

http://marckrsh.home.pipeline.com





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 02:55
Subject: Re: Business conference folds

Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU> sez

>Thankyou for asking this question Brenda - I have been egging for a chance
>to promote our local talent :-}

An impressively global concept of "local"! Origami (and the Net) makes
the world smaller indeed.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    www.britishorigami.org.uk





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 03:32
Subject: Re: Business conference folds

On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Nick Robinson wrote:

> An impressively global concept of "local"! Origami (and the Net) makes
> the world smaller indeed.

With the recent Queen's visit, I was feeling a little regal and referring
to the royal "we" (or "our") ;-} - John Morgan is a Canberra man, and a
good friend.

regards
Michael





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 23 Mar 2000 04:50
Subject: Re: new on list & coating origami

Kernan Jang, a new subcriber, who attended the recent PCOC  wrote last night,
for him, early this morning for me,

>Is anybody out there at Cal or in Berkely or in Martin County)

> Do people really need to tell the rest of the country about their local
> meetings though?

>What does everybody use to coat their models?

It's not just the rest of the country, Kernan. The Origami List (or
Origami-L) is an international list with many active subscribers from all
over the world, not just North America.

Origami-L is an excellent way for paperfolders to communicte and to tell each
other  what they are doing. I find it very intereting to know what other
groups are geting up to.  And PCOC, too, is a local group, though an
important one! I have very treasured memories of the first PCOC in 1997 and
am very sorry I was uable to attend this time. (Last time, I even took the
BART to Berkeley to have a look at the university and bookshops.)  So I am
very appreciative of all the reports about PCOC that are being posted to
Origami-L. I should be grateful for more of them.

As for coating materials for origami models, Mark Kennedy is the acknowledged
expert. (Sorry, but he's not a Bay Area resident.) But there have been
several long discussions about coating and coating materials on Origami-L. I
suggest that you should learn to use the Archives and make a search under the
heading "coating materials" and any other relevant words. I'm sure that you
would find an enormous, if not overwhelming amount of informtion. Access to
the Archives can conveniently be made through Joseph Wu's Web Site.

As for other paperfolders in the Bay Area, get in touch with Jeremy Shafer,
the secretary of BARF (The Bay Area Rapid Folders) at 1744, Virginia Street,
Berkeley, CA 94703. You'll never regret it.

BARF meets on the first Saturday of the month, 2-6 pm, at the Bernal Heights
Branch Library, 500 Cortland Street, San Francisco, CA 94110. Membership is
free to everybody, though membership is encouraged. ($15  year). The BARF
Newsletter alone is worth far more than this.

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 23 Mar 2000 04:50
Subject: Modular Folding (formerly Hi from new member)

Eleanor Andujar wrote:

> I only do modular (30 and 60 piece construction) origami which some
>  individuals do not consider origami at all.

Since I recently asked (with my tongue in my cheek) whether modular origami
could properly  be called "origami" I feel I should make it clear that  I do
not consider myself to be one of those induividuals that do not consider
modular origami to be origami at all. I asked the question because in
answereing it we arrive at a deeper undertaning of what we mean by origami.

I found the replies very helfpful. One day I hope to contribute a piece about
modular and multipiece origami.

Is there anyone on the List who doesn't consider modular origami to be
origami? If so, I should like to hear from him or her.

Incidentally, since  Eleanor asks, Bristol is in the south-west of England
close to the south bank of the River Severn. It's a fine maritime city with a
rich history and its own paperfolders. The British Origami Society holds ils
conventions there fairly regularly.

David Lister.





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 07:34
Subject: Re: Hi from new member

> Since when do the units have to be from a square, hmmmmmmmmmm?

If they want to consider themselves origami they do :) )

Dave





From: Elsje vd Ploeg <evdploeg@BETUWE.NET>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 08:14
Subject: [No] thank you: diagrammed in envelope

Dear lovely people on the list,

Thank you all for your nice wishes, e-mails, cards
and the messages in the guest-book.
It was so heart-warming to receive them
from all new and old friends, to see "real" cards
by mail with cats and paperfolding ( I like both
very much).     A wall in my room is filled-full with cards.

Thanks to Sjaak Adriaanse, he told origami-land what happened to me.
Great adventure having a brain-attach and a heart-attack....
--First it looked to me as if he was talking about someone else--
than I had to cry for all these sweet reactions, still being alive
and belonging to such a great and nice family.

I have been lurking ( in Dutch "lurking" sounds to me like
a perfect word for sucking your thumb) quiet and enjoying the list
just happy to belong to it.

Now I feel much better, only my fingertips (right hand)
and my lips feel "deaf". I hope that will leave in future

I fold cranes whispering hope.

In my dreams I was followed by sweet friendly envelope
in my mind, it came up every time and was
like a comfort to me in dark moments, when I was locked up in myself.
My whole world was changed---the envelope stayed the same.
I have made the diagram for you all and
hope you see it as a "thank you"
http://www.betuwe.net/pepi/23elfa_start.2.html
click on the finished model in the middle and you see the diagram.

Making the diagrams and bring it to the homepage
was very difficult
(my short memory and coordination don't work like I think it works)
but I succeeded and I hope
you tell me about mistakes if there are.
Again  thank you all.
xxxxxxelsje





From: "Sandra P. Hoffman" <ghidra@HOME.COM>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 10:23
Subject: Re: Reaching the stage of complex origami! (long)

On 17 Mar 2000, at 21:30, Perry Bailey wrote:

> I don't really look at models as being super complex or
> intermediate, but rather how well they are diagrammed.

I'm not sure I agree. I see several processes involved in folding
models. One is the dexterity of the folder. To me a distinction could
be made between intermediate and supercomplex models based
on the level of dexterity required.

Another process is what for lack of a better term, I would call
visualization. That is the ability to see several steps ahead whether
or not they are clearly diagrammed for you, and the ability to
visualize in 3 dimensions a 2 dimensional representation. To me a
simple model can be easily visualized from beginning to end, and a
supercomplex model would have to be broken down in to more
manageable fragments. Intermediate would land somewhere in
between. (I'm not sure I'm getting across quite what I mean here).

Another process is time involved. If less time required to complete
the model and less practice time is required before attempting the
model, the model is simpler on my scale of rating models. I'm sure
there are other processes involved, but those are the main ones for
me.

My biggest pesonal limiting factor is dexterity. I have joint problems
in my hands that cause a slight shaking at times, and stiff jonts all
the time. Some complex folds are beyond the physical limtations
of my hands.

Two people I know have the ability to visualize as a limiting factor.
Both these people have tried origami, but never progressed past a
simple level because their minds just don't work that way naturally,
and the effort to get past that is more than they think doing origami
is worth. Well diagrammed simple models work well for these
people, but complex models lose them no matter how well
diagrammed.

Finally, for me, a simple model is one I can fold creditably and
quickly no matter how long it has been since I last folded. An
intermediate model is one I can fold creditably in a moderate
amount of time as long as I have done a few simple models
recently. A complex model is one I need to dedicate practice time
to for a couple of weeks before I have a hope of doing a creditable
result. A complex model is one I expect to take 45 minutes to
several hours to complete. Again this is irregardless of how well
diagrammed the model is.

sph





From: Joe Wezorek <joew@DYNAVOXSYS.COM>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:13
Subject: Italian origami books

Does anyone know of a better source
for getting the Italian origami books
that keep on appearing on Ebay? That
insect book looks pretty good, but you
just know it's going to sell (again) for
a ridiculously inflated price. Also what's
the story on Alfredo Giunta? Is he still
an active folder?

Joe





From: Howard Portugal <howardp@FAST.NET>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:17
Subject: Re: Business conference folds

I usually bring 4" (or smaller) squares along to meetings and such and fold
modulars.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Origami Mailing List [mailto:Origami@MIT.Edu]On Behalf Of B.
> Becker
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 6:32 PM
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Business conference folds
>
>
> Hi all.  I have been a lurker for a few months and have been
> impressed with the
> level of skill and creativity of the regulars here.
>
> I now have a question, please:
>
> Can anyone recommend non-complex  folds that can be done with
> rectangular paper
> where the exact proportion is not that important?  I am looking
> for things I can
> fold quietly (and surreptitiously) at speaker conferences, where
> the hotel or
> the organizers provide those little pads of paper for notes.

> Trying to tear
> them into squares is usually too noisy.)
>
> This is my version of doodling, when the speaker is less than enthralling.
>
> Brenda





From: Gerard Blais <gblais@NORTELNETWORKS.COM>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:56
Subject: Origami-Montreal next meeting

The next meeting of Origami-Montreal will be held:

Sunday, March 26, from 1 PM to 4 PM,
     at 6848 Christophe-Colomb, Montreal.

On the menu:
    - Discussions: local events, international events, new books,
      interesting news, etc.
    - The latest number of the BOS magazine has arrived.
    - Information on the "Origami by Children" contest of Origami USA.
    - Folding workshop:
          "Dragons", presented by Cathy.
    - Free folding, discussion, etc.

Origami material (i.e. paper) will be provided for those who need it.

See you Sunday!  Be there or be "square"! :-)

Gerard

+-----+ Origami-Montreal
|     | Phone & fax: (450) 448-2530 (Hideko Sinto)
|     | email: origami@francomedia.qc.ca (Hideko Sinto)
+-----+ web: http://www.geocities.com/orimtl





From: "K. A. Lundberg" <klundber@MNSINC.COM>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:50
Subject: Re: What's a blintz frog base?

Andy:
> I'm trying to make Kalei Lundberg's calyx for the Kawasaki rose, and
> I'm stuck at step zero: what's a blintz frog base?  It's not in any
> book I have, not on the web (at least by that name), and I wasn't able
> to reinvent it based on the pictures.

____________________________
The first time I ran across this particular term was in James Sakoda's book
Origami Flower Arrangement where he discusses several blintz bases.  Though
many models involve this folding sequence it is often not identified as
being a blintz frog. The calyx is not much more than an innovated use of
this base.

> Can some kind soul tell me what this is, how it differs from a normal
> frog base, or where I could find instructions?

_______________
For anyone still having trouble after Scott's elegant description, I have
added a separate page of photos, accessible from the calyx page, showing the
basic moves for the blintz frog.

Thanks, Scott, for letting me know that it works with the Winson Chan
version too. I don't usually fold that model and wasn't sure if it worked or
not.

Kalei
http://www.kalei.com/origami





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:58
Subject: Booklist, plea for help etc. (longish)

Hello everyone,

        Thank you all very much for the response to my last e-mail.
     Astonishing! I
have decided to reply to them in one go on the list rather than separately.
I hope you'll forgive this slightly impersonal approach.

        Firstly, the ISBN would be the ideal course, but not everyone has noted
     the
ISBN numbers in their lists, and those that did have ISBNs didn't have them
all, and I'm not going to mention typing errors!!

        Secondly, thanks for all the offers of help on the Fuse problem (and the
hints on who else may be problematic i.e. Yoshizawa, Kasahara etc.). I think
that I'll take up the links that were offered first and contact the people
suggested (Rosalind's Fuse site and Peter Messer. If they could contact me
directly that would be great). Once I've explored those avenues I'll see
what's left.

        Special thanks to Brian Goodall who has offered the BOS library list.
     CSV
seems to be acceptable to Access, so that will be fantastic and also to
David Lister whose list I would love to see and probably rivals the BOS
library!

        Keep up your enthusiasm for this project, 'cos it definitely helps keep
     my
enthusiasm going!

                                Thanks again,

                                                Dennis





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 15:05
Subject: Re: Reaching the stage of complex origami! (long)

"Sandra P. Hoffman" wrote:
>
> On 17 Mar 2000, at 21:30, Perry Bailey wrote:
>
> > I don't really look at models as being super complex or
> > intermediate, but rather how well they are diagrammed.
>
> I'm not sure I agree. I see several processes involved in folding
> models. One is the dexterity of the folder. To me a distinction could
> be made between intermediate and supercomplex models based
> on the level of dexterity required.

I don't know that I would really agree with this, one I have
arthritis early onslaught due to other things, more importantly
I never have been able to as you say visualize an entire model,
I have short term memory loss, so that makes your visualizing
next to impossible for me.  Yet I fold complex and even super
complex models, by doing them one step at a time, if the
diagrams are good the model comes out if they aren't then it
becomes very hard.  I firmly believe the only real limitations
are the ones we set on ourselves, at least as far as origami is
concerned.  It often takes me a week or more to do a high
complex model as I have to stop when the joints start to hurt
too much, but I just pick up where I left off the next time!  I
even have to use the diagrams to fold my stuff, not to mention
that I generally have to diagram backwards as I can't remember
how I got there.

Perry
--
"Continental chambermaids
are very hard to shock,
first they wait until your naked
then they enter, then they knock!"

Victor Buono from "It could be verse"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 23 Mar 2000 15:41
Subject: Re: new on list & coating origami

In a message dated 3/23/00 1:35:41 AM, kernan@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU writes:

<<   Do people really need to tell the rest of the country about their local
meetings though? >>

I think it is very nice to know what is happening in various groups around
the country in case you are visiting that area on a meeting day.  With our
mobile society that is often the case.  Sorry Mark Kennedy lives in
Allentown, Pa. His jewelry is absolutely exquisite and very worthwhile
buying.....Come to the N.Y. convention if you can and you can buy all of his
jewelry that you want.  Welcome to the Origami world and tell us about
yourself.....Dorigami





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 16:25
Subject: ISBN numbers

Hi everyone,

        Sorry to bother you again, but there is just one thing I'd like to add
     to
all those busily preparing book lists to send to me.

        PLEASE use ISBN numbers where possible!!

        In frustration I must also point out the following facts about ISBN
numbers:-

        1. ISBN numbers have 10 digits, no more, no less.
        2. The last digit is a check digit (which may be X)
        3. The first digit (or 2) is a indication of the country grouping and
        hence (but not always) the language e.g. 0 and 1 are used for English
speaking countries, 4 is Japanese etc.

        The remaining digits indicate the publisher and the title/edition of the
book.
        This means that I can tell vaguely when the number is wrong, and I
     already
have quite a few errors. This just makes it more difficult to sort out.
        Please don't let this put you off, keep the lists coming,

                                                Dennis





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 17:22
Subject: Re: Italian origami books

Kim's Crane stocks about 10 Italian origami books (last time I checked),
including a translation of Akira Yoshizawa's Museum I:Animals, and Eric
Kenneway's Folding Faces (Volti).

Giunta only has one book currently in print (that I know of) available
through OUSA - DIVERTITEVI CON L'ORIGAMI. A shame the others are still not
available.

regards

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Michael Janssen-Gibson                 e-mail: mig@isd.canberra.edu.au
ISD, Library                    phone/voice mail: +61 6 (02) 6201 5665
Communication & Education                    fax: +61 6 (02) 6201 5068
University of Canberra
PO Box 1 Belconnen, ACT 2616

University of Canberra - 30 years making the difference





From: "John R. Mizell" <superj@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 17:47
Subject: Re: Any news on new $ book?

        I would also like to know if you have heard anything on
Making More with Money Vol. 2 from Origami USA. Last I heard
Marc Kirschenbaum said (I believe we corresponded around Aug./Sept.)
that the sequel to "Making More with Money" was in the works and that
it should be finished in about a year. Now I know that still leaves us
about 5-6 months, but I can't believe that there's no hype for this book out
yet. I hope that it hasn't been scrapped. (I highly doubt it, knowing that
just abouth EVERYONE loves money folds! I have all of the books that I
could find, except for Neale's "Folding Money Fooling". I'm kinda
waiting on the price of this one to drop a little.)

    Happy Folding,

    John

Papa Joe wrote:

> Anyone have any new information on the Montroll $book?
> Thanks,
> Joe
> --------------------Below is from the archives----------------------------
>
> >Subject: Re: new Montroll book
> >Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:01:13 -0500
>
> >Snip<
> > Mr. Montroll told us that the book after B.O.t.L. would be
> >coming out in February, and will be a book of $ animal folds. The class
> >where I learned this was for the purpose of beta-testing some of those $
> >diagrams... I remember a Triceratops, a shark, an elephant, a rhino and a
> >pig, but there were numerous others.
> >snip<





From: Bimal Ramesh Desai <desaib@MEDICINE.WUSTL.EDU>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 20:31
Subject: Selling books

I've got a few rare (or at least out of print) origami books I'm trying to
sell, but I'm not sure the best way to do it.  It looks like many folks
here sell through Ebay.  Can anyone comment on the process?  Does it cost
the seller anything?  Is it easy to use?

-Bimal





From: Jeadams1@AOL.COM
Date: 23 Mar 2000 21:29
Subject: New Swan Diagrams Are Up!

I just posted diagrams to a swan model I came up with at
http://members.aol.com/jeadams1/origami.html. Enjoy!

Jim





From: Neil Eisman <neisman@ALUM.MIT.EDU>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 23:48
Subject: Re: Any news on new $ book?

Papa Joe asked:

> Anyone have any new information on the Montroll $book?

Here's info from Barnes & Noble's website:

>Dollar Bill Animals in Origami
>bn.com Price: $10.95
>This book will be available April1st, place your advance order now and we will
>ship it when it arrives!
>Format: Paperback,120pp.
>ISBN: 1877656143
>Publisher: Antroll Publishing Company

They also show a Dover edition of the same book (ISBN 0486411575) as being
due in June.

-- Neil





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 23 Mar 2000 23:51
Subject: JOAS Membership Renewals - Now being accepted!

Dear All JOAS Members,

I am now able to accept JOAS (Japan Origami Academic Society) membership
renewals.  The price for Volume 11 (issues #61-66) will be the same as for
Volume 10 (issues #55-60) which is $40.00 US.

For those of you who are interested in becoming a new JOAS member, please be
sure to indicate WHICH volume you want to order.  Volume 10 will be sent
complete with all six issues at once.  Volume 11 orders will be sent as they
are published - once every two months.

Regarding the new insect book:  I will not be accepting orders for this item.
 However, Origami USA will be stocking the book and I'll announce to the list
when it will become available and the price.

Please respond to me privately if you are interested in the JOAS membership.
I will be sending an order to Japan the end of this month.

Yours,

June Sakamoto





From: Neil Eisman <neisman@ALUM.MIT.EDU>
Date: 23 Mar 2000 23:59
Subject: PCOC Dragon Challenge

Does anybody know what happened with the PCOC Origami Dragon Challenge?

-- Neil





From: I M <eldo1960@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 24 Mar 2000 01:08
Subject: Re: Selling books

eBay is easy to use and effective.  The listing price is 25c and up,
depending on your asking price.  They also keep a small percentage of your
selling price.
I bought a great origami video from an eBay auction just last week.
IM
-----------

It looks like many folks
here sell through Ebay.  Can anyone comment on the process?  Does it cost
the seller anything
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 24 Mar 2000 01:48
Subject: Re: [ousa-members] Classic Origami Models

In a message dated 3/11/00 10:04:50 PM, vann@lht.com writes:

<< If people will post the models that seem 'classic' to them, I'll compile
the list. If you know the designer, add that. If you don't know the
designer, maybe someone else will. >>

Hmmm, classics......It would seem to me a classic is a model that has been
popular for a long time.  Well, to start with, I think the crane and the
flapping bird, the hopping frog from a business card, the money folded bow
tie, the magazine cover box. Of course many others of varying degrees of
difficulty. Personally, I have been doing these for 35 years and they  always
bring a smile of joy to whomever I show them to or teach them to.  They each
have the aha factor in them and that is what I think makes them so
successful.  You have mentioned some more difficult models which some of us
do not attempt to make...we just admire them.  They are indeed classics for
those who like to make models with many folds in them but for the general
public the quick and easies are great because in one moment we can create a
surprise for old and young alike.  The harder models are really for display
and can't be made in front of someone.  I think a model has much more effect
on a novice if they can see how to do it before their eyes.  What do  you
think?





From: "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel@EXC.COM>
Date: 24 Mar 2000 07:51
Subject: Any news on new $ book?

Curious.  Amazon doesn't have it yet.

Also, is there any difference between the Antroll and the Dover
editions?

>> Anyone have any new information on the Montroll $book?
>
>Here's info from Barnes & Noble's website:
>
>>Dollar Bill Animals in Origami
>>bn.com Price: $10.95
>>This book will be available April 1'st, place your advance order now and we=
>>ship it when it arrives!
>>Format: Paperback, 120pp.
>>ISBN: 1877656143
>>Publisher: Antroll Publishing Company
>
>They also show a Dover edition of the same book (ISBN 0486411575) as being
>due in June.





From: Faye Goldman <FayeG@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: 24 Mar 2000 08:13
Subject: Re: Business conference folds

Even with the small pockets (if any) I can fit 2-3" squares and
quietly
fold them at conferences.  It keeps me awake also!
Faye

Subject: Re: Business conference folds

> I usually bring 4" (or smaller) squares along to meetings and such
and fold
> modulars.





From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:15
Subject: Folding Sunday -NYC

Folding Sunday
(Formerly Folding-Free-For-All)

Origami Sunday will be held this Sunday in Room 319 at the Museum of Natural
History

Any OrigamiUSA members in or visiting the New York City area on the 4th
Sunday of each month are welcome to join our monthly folding meetings at the

American Museum of Natural History from 1:00 to 4:00 PM.

Please bring folding paper plus something to share. It's especially
appreciated if you
bring a model to teach, but if you're not comfortable teaching yet please
bring something else to contribute such as a model to show that you've been
enjoying folding, an origami book or newsletter others might find of
interest, or paper for the group. We will have a special "sharing table" set

aside for display of models to teach, models to show, books, publications,
and paper contributions.

These monthly meetings are a continuation of the tradition Lillian
Oppenheimer began over 40 years ago of encouraging paperfolders to get
together to teach each other and exchange ideas. OrigamiUSA is able to
provide a meeting space - the rest is up to those attending. When you arrive

at the museum please check at any information desk for the meeting room
number.

The folding sessions are similar to the informal folding at convention.

There should be returning folders from PCOC ready to teach the models that
they
learned in San Francisco.
