




From: Papa Joe <papajoe@CHORUS.NET>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 03:44
Subject: Clover Money Fold Challenge!

>Subject: Money Fold
> My Name is Manuel, i'm in Dallas, Texas. If any one can help me on this
> i'll be thankful. What i'm looking for are a folding of a three(3) leaf
> clover, and/or a four leaf clover out of a us dollar bill. Thank you.

THIS IS A CHALLENGE TO ALL ON THE LIST!

I have a 3 leaf clover (made from 2 one dollar bills).
No diagrams yet because I have not found a good
way to lock the 2 dollars together.  I am confident
I could overcome this problem but I have no time
and St. Patrick's is on it's way!

If anyone want's to try to work this problem out feel free.
I ask only that the clover be available to all,
and you give Francis Ow and myself some credit.
(The clover is based on Francis Ow's "Double Hearts".)

What you need to do to make the clover...

Fold the "Double Hearts" out of a dollar (omitting the color change)
Be sure to make the hearts out of the green side of the dollar.
You will end up with 2 hearts with a long thin strip of dollar between.
Make one more, with only one heart on one side.
Think of each heart as a petal of the clover.
The dollar with one heart forms the center petal and stem.
The dollar with the 2 hearts makes the right and left petels.

It sounds strange but when all the "petals" are touching and
"stem" is poking out from behind (about 1 inch and at a slight angle)
 The effect is quite good!

Problems.......
The stem needs to be shortened (easy)
And the dollars need to be brought together and locked (not so easy).

Anybody on the list up to the challenge?

Want to see a photo?
E-mail me. PapaJoe@chorus.net

Joe Gilardi





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 03:57
Subject: Re: Web Pages Update

Aloha Jack Mello,

I.m guessing you are using Microsoft Internet Explorer
for the Macintosh. I'm using Microsoft Internet Explorer
4.0 on a PC. I'm not having a problem with the font size,
but Internet Explorer should allow you to force the font to
display larger for your convenience.

I don't think Anool needs to change his font size,
unless you're talking about the fine print "hosted by"
in the Tripod logo, and I don't think he has control
over that.

Anool does specify font Ventana, point size 10, which is
a bit small, but, at least in my version of Internet Explorer,
I can override that with the View|Fonts|Larger menu
selection.

Aloha,
Kenneth Kawamura

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Mello
<snip>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 03:57:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Web Pages Update

>Hi,
>
>  I just checked your web site. You need to use a larger font size, the
text
>is too small to read.
>
>
>Jack...
>
>
>----------
>>From: Anool
    <snip>
>>Subject: Web Pages Update
>>Date: Sun, Feb 27, 2000, 5:37 AM
>>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> My project this week end was to set up my web pages and give them some
>> structure. I guess I've succeeded. Follow this link:
>> http://anools-origami.tripod.com
<snip>





From: Kosmo <kosmo@FREE.FR>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 05:11
Subject: do you read me ?

Hello everybody

I post a message last week and i receive back a message of the
MITVMA.MIT.EDU that i dont understand ( about help i think ) because i'm
french. So do you read me and do you see my last message about diagram ? I
asked you if you know where i can find the diagram of nautilus by Tomoko
Fuse online or if someone can send it me by mail ?

Sorry for my english, i hope you understand me :))

Thank you for help

Biatrice





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 05:13
Subject: Re: do you read me ?

I saw your message but I didn't have the diagram.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kosmo [mailto:kosmo@FREE.FR]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 10:09 AM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: do you read me ?

Hello everybody

I post a message last week and i receive back a message of the
MITVMA.MIT.EDU that i dont understand ( about help i think ) because i'm
french. So do you read me and do you see my last message about diagram ? I
asked you if you know where i can find the diagram of nautilus by Tomoko
Fuse online or if someone can send it me by mail ?

Sorry for my english, i hope you understand me :))

Thank you for help

Biatrice





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 06:08
Subject: Re: do you read me ?

Bonjour Biatrice!

Bienvenue sur la liste!

At 11:08 28.02.00 +0100, you wrote:

 do you read me and do you see my last message about diagram ? I
>asked you if you know where i can find the diagram of nautilus by Tomoko
>Fuse online or if someone can send it me by mail ?

J'ai bien lu ton message...
Je ne sais pas quelle rponse tu as reue, et je ne suis pas certaine du
modle que tu cherches. Tomok Fuse a en effet crit deux livres d'origami
avec pour thme les spirales. Celui que je possde contient plusieurs
modles de coquillage et d'escargots, et je pense que ton nautilus pourrait
tre l'un d'entre eux.  Tu peux commander ces livres (en japonais), qui en
valent la peine, auprs de Viereck Verlag en Allemagne (si cela
t'intresse, je t'enverrai l'adresse exacte dans un autre e-mail, car je ne
l'ai pas sous la main en ce moment).

A ma connaissance, il n'y a pas de diagrammes de Tomoko Fuse sur Internet.

A propos de photocopies: si tu achtes le livre, les auteurs reoivent un
petit pourcentage pour leur travail. Si tu te contentes de les photocopier,
les auteurs en sont pour leurs frais. Du moment que le livre peut tre
obtenu sur le march, je trouve plus thique de le commander que de le
pirater... et de ne recourir  une demande de photocopies que s'il est
puis. Et je crois que la plupart des membres de la liste partagent cet avis.

Amitis,

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 06:12
Subject: Apology

Sorry everyone,

That message in French was meant to be private... but I forgot to check the
recipient line before I pressed the "send" button.

All my apologies.

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 06:16
Subject: Re: Apology

Thats ok, it was readable through the Altavista translator.

I agree with what you said though......

-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Palffy [mailto:jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 11:11 AM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Apology

Sorry everyone,

That message in French was meant to be private... but I forgot to check the
recipient line before I pressed the "send" button.

All my apologies.

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 28 Feb 2000 06:33
Subject: JOAS Membership and Books

Dear all,

I will be sending another order to Japan soon for Japan Origami Academic
Society (JOAS) membership ($40/year for six magazine issues) and orders for
their Tanteidan Convention Book #5 ($28) and Yamaguchi's latest book "Joyful
Life with Origami" ($19).

If anyone is interested in ordering any of the above, please e-mail me right
away your intent to order and for further information.  Orders will be sent
to Japan later this week.  Next order will be end of next month  :)

Yours,

June Sakamoto





From: Ella-mae <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 06:52
Subject: Re: Apology

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julia Palffy" <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
>
> That message in French was meant to be private... but I forgot to check
the
> recipient line before I pressed the "send" button.
>
> All my apologies.
>
> Julia Palffy
> Zug, Switzerland
> jupalffy@bluewin.ch

Don't apologize, great brush-up on French mullosc names. Ah, coquilles et
escargots... gotta go cook up a nice mergherite sauce... All the best - c!!!

`````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
>From all these trees--
in salads, soups, everywhere--
cherry blossoms fall
                       -Basho





From: Manuel Rodriguez <jemmml@FLASH.NET>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 10:22
Subject: Re: Clover Money Fold Challenge!

This is Manuel again. Thanks to Anita's Origami web site I was able to
modify the dollar bill into a square and using her folds of the shamrock
I was able to fold a three (3) leaf clover with stem, may I add. My
thanks to her and her web site, my credit go solely to her. Below is her
web site, Once again thank you Anita. Have paper will fold, Manuel.
http://www.ulster.net/~spider/

Papa Joe wrote:
>
> >Subject: Money Fold
> > My Name is Manuel, i'm in Dallas, Texas. If any one can help me on this
> > i'll be thankful. What i'm looking for are a folding of a three(3) leaf
> > clover, and/or a four leaf clover out of a us dollar bill. Thank you.
>
> THIS IS A CHALLENGE TO ALL ON THE LIST!
>
> I have a 3 leaf clover (made from 2 one dollar bills).
> No diagrams yet because I have not found a good
> way to lock the 2 dollars together.  I am confident
> I could overcome this problem but I have no time
> and St. Patrick's is on it's way!
>
> If anyone want's to try to work this problem out feel free.
> I ask only that the clover be available to all,
> and you give Francis Ow and myself some credit.
> (The clover is based on Francis Ow's "Double Hearts".)
>
> What you need to do to make the clover...
>
> Fold the "Double Hearts" out of a dollar (omitting the color change)
> Be sure to make the hearts out of the green side of the dollar.
> You will end up with 2 hearts with a long thin strip of dollar between.
> Make one more, with only one heart on one side.
> Think of each heart as a petal of the clover.
> The dollar with one heart forms the center petal and stem.
> The dollar with the 2 hearts makes the right and left petels.
>
> It sounds strange but when all the "petals" are touching and
> "stem" is poking out from behind (about 1 inch and at a slight angle)
>  The effect is quite good!
>
> Problems.......
> The stem needs to be shortened (easy)
> And the dollars need to be brought together and locked (not so easy).
>
> Anybody on the list up to the challenge?
>
> Want to see a photo?
> E-mail me. PapaJoe@chorus.net
>
> Joe Gilardi





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 11:17
Subject: Re: JOAS Membership and Books

Hi June,

    Inside the back cover of the latest Tanteidan is (I assume) an ad for
two books, one of which appears to be about Kawahata insects. Are these also
available through JOAS and you? I imagine more than a few of us would be
interested!

Thanks in advance,

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Brian Moses <moses@POP.UKY.EDU>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 12:08
Subject: pending demise of the US $1 bill

I am new to this list, so forgive me if this has been discussed before.  I
have not yet figured out how to search the database.

I was visiting my family this weekend, and my sister asked me if I had seen
the new $1 coin.  I was not aware that a coin was being made.  It's gold, a
little larger than a quarter, with a Native American woman and papoose on
the front and the American eagle on the back.  I presume the gold tone is to
avoid confusion with the American quarter, which is the reason the Susan B.
Anthony $1 coin flopped.

Apparently, if the $1 coin is a hit, the US Treasury will cease production
of the $1 bill because it isn't cost effective.  I was also told that
vending machines are already being manufactured to be compatible with the
new coin.  Currently you can only get the coins through US banks or -
WalMart!  You have to ask your WalMart cashier for change in $1 coins.

I hope this is of interest to origami-l.  It appears you may soon be
offering your $5 rings for $10.

Yours truly,

Brian Moses, moses@pop.uky.edu
www.uky.edu/~moses





From: Jeadams1@AOL.COM
Date: 28 Feb 2000 12:31
Subject: New Diagrams of a Buffalo Mask

I just added to my web sites diagrams for a buffalo mask I concocted. Enjoy!

Jim
http://members.aol.com/jeadams1/origami.html





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 12:37
Subject: Re: JOAS Membership and Books

At 10:55 AM 2/28/00 -0500, you wrote:
>     Inside the back cover of the latest Tanteidan is (I assume) an ad for
>two books, one of which appears to be about Kawahata insects. Are these also
>available through JOAS and you? I imagine more than a few of us would be
>interested!

Actually, that's a book of Tanteidan insects, not exclusively Kawahata's.
And June should be able to get it.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Ron Arruda <arruda@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 13:02
Subject: Re: pending demise of the US $1 bill

The $1 bill may be on the way out, but don't panick yet. The acceptance of
the coin is by no means assured. On the other hand, England (1983) has had
its 1 pound note replaced by a coin, and Canada (1985?) has the dollar
coin (called a "looney" after the water bird on the reverse), another
success.

Largely unknown in most parts of the is the $2 bill (with Jefferson's
face)! I think these are still being produced, but they are almost extinct in
circulation. I'm from New England, and we had them fairly often there in
the 1950's and 1960's, but people from outside the area had a deep seated
aversion, amounting to a superstition, against even handling them! Are
there others on line who remembr such a strange attitude?

Ron Arruda





From: Karen Reeds <reeds@OPENIX.COM>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 13:31
Subject: Re: Your Poverty Folds

>Hi Karen!
>
>You've picqued my curiousity.  What exactly are poverty folds? Pureland
>and/or minimalist folds?
>
>Dorothy  FoldingCA@webtv.net (Dorothy Engleman)

Hi, Dorothy,  2/27/2000

Poverty folds really refers to the material, not the technique. They are
models that use miscellaneous scraps of "found" paper, like recycled typing
paper, brochures, maps, candy wrappers, business cards, tea bag wrappers,
or blow-in subscription cards (my favorite). To my mind, money folds count
because they make you think again before spending the money.

Poverty folds typically start from rectangles and exploit the asymmetry and
proportions of the particular rectangle at hand. The thickness and
crispness of the material also influences the kinds of possible
models--subscription cards don't allow delicate, intricate folds, but they
have a sturdiness and springiness that is fun to play with.

I can't remember where I first heard the term--either on the listserve, or
at an OUSA convention in the past 5 years or so (David Lister, is it in
your archives?)--but I love the idea that,  no matter how poor you are, you
can always find something to fold with.

Karen
reeds@openix.com





From: Larry Finch <LarryFinch@AOL.COM>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 14:56
Subject: Re: pending demise of the US $1 bill

In a message dated 2/28/00 12:08:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
moses@POP.UKY.EDU writes:

> I was visiting my family this weekend, and my sister asked me if I had seen
>  the new $1 coin.  I was not aware that a coin was being made.  It's gold, a
>  little larger than a quarter, with a Native American woman and papoose on
>  the front and the American eagle on the back.  I presume the gold tone is
to
>  avoid confusion with the American quarter, which is the reason the Susan B.
>  Anthony $1 coin flopped.
>

The Native American woman is Sacajawea [sp?], the guide of the Lewis and
Clark expedition.

Larry





From: Michael Anderson <manderso@ACAD2.DANA.EDU>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 15:52
Subject: greetings

Hello all,

I am completely new to this list and new to Origami. I seemed to have
caught the bug!

I am a college professor in Nebraska and am glad to have found this
group of people. Please excuse my newbie questions.

I adore folding the crane and find myself doing it all the time.. in
meetings, watching the tube.. stopped at a light.. etc.

I am looking for a similar model that I can fold for variety. In
needs to be something as beautiful and elegant if possible and also
something that I can fold in my hand... in other words, something
that doesn't require a flat surface. I fold the cranes out of small
paper and enjoy collecting them. I can do this without bothering
others in a meeting or concert. :-)

Does anyone have any ideas for me? I have tried folding more
elaborate patterns that I have found on Joseph Wu's page. I'm afraid
I have failed miserably at most of them due to my lack of experience
and  knowledge, but I enjoy it none-the-less. Last night I tried to
do the Armadillo.. yikes! I spent 2-3 hours on it and it looked like
a cross between a daschsund and an anteater when I finished. Oh well.
:-)

Thanks for any advice you may have.

Michael Anderson





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 15:56
Subject: NO: Clover Money Fold Challenge!

Re St Patricks day. (Non origami and political)

You're correct, St Patricks day is coming around. May I request that any
americans, especially new yorkers, take care when giving money to
collectors, especially those who claim it is going to help 'the cause'. If
anyone wonders why I ask this, cast an eye on international news.

Stephen O'Hanlon
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From: Nathan Webb <webbnc@ZEUTER.COM>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 15:59
Subject: NO: Re: pending demise of the US $1 bill

I'm from Canada, and just this weekend I saw the movie Twin Falls Idaho.  In
it there was a $2 bill that appeared as a significant part of the story.  I
was puzzled, because i didn't think they existed.  But what do ya know? they
do.

In Canada both 1 and 2 $ denominations have 'always' been an integral part
of our currency.  And it is true that in 86 the $1 bill became a coin.  But
guess what?  In 95 or 6 our $2 bill morphed into a coin too!  Its been
dubbed the "twonie," which sounds stupid and is lacking in imagination.  It
actually looks kind of cool:  a small goldish coloured medallion inside a
donut shaped nickle ring, overall about the size of a silver dollar, with a
bear on its tale side.  Ya, we have to tow great bags of coinage with us
everywhere we go.  But that's okay since in Canada we can pull them around
on a sleigh 12 months of the year :)

Anyway, so much for bill folding, eh?

Nathan Webb

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Arruda <arruda@CATS.UCSC.EDU>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: pending demise of the US $1 bill

> The $1 bill may be on the way out, but don't panick yet. The acceptance of
> the coin is by no means assured. On the other hand, England (1983) has had
> its 1 pound note replaced by a coin, and Canada (1985?) has the dollar
> coin (called a "looney" after the water bird on the reverse), another
> success.
>
> Largely unknown in most parts of the is the $2 bill (with Jefferson's
> face)! I think these are still being produced, but they are almost extinct
in
> circulation. I'm from New England, and we had them fairly often there in
> the 1950's and 1960's, but people from outside the area had a deep seated
> aversion, amounting to a superstition, against even handling them! Are
> there others on line who remembr such a strange attitude?
>
> Ron Arruda





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 16:07
Subject: Dinosaurs

On a less political note,

While spending a week in Devon, I've finally diagrammed several complex
dinosaurs that Ive been meaning to do for ages. Space is limited on my
geocities site, so I'm construction a tripod one for dinosaurs alone. The
new ones include an ankylosaurus, a styracosaurs, a T rex, an allosaurs and
a deinonychus. Im still waiting to put up several ornithopoda up, and to
replace the dreadfully inaccurate page Ive got on my site already. My
question is...what dinosaurs would you like to see on the new set of pages?
Have you got a favourite that no-ones diagrammed? I'm not quite sure I could
design something as tangled as a Tuojiangosaurs (kawahata's model) but I'll
give anything a go...

Waiting to hear from you,

Stephen
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From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 17:17
Subject: One Joyful Life

June,

Thanks so much for doing this for us. Please order "Joyful Life" for me. I'll
get Atsushi to autograph it for me.

I'll send you a check right away.

Missed you yesterday at Folding Sunday but do put August 27th on your calendar
for our L.I.F.E. Fold Fest.

Rachel





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 28 Feb 2000 17:34
Subject: Re: Apology

Julia Palffy wrote earlier today:

"Sorry everyone, That message in French was meant to be private... but I
forgot to check the  recipient line before I pressed the "send" button. All
my apologies."

And why not in French? I dare say that the French language has its own
Internet Origami List, but I hope that there are no rigid barriers between
paperfolders who happen to speak different languages. At any rate, the
language of Origami is universal.

And Julia's message is so beautifully and clearly written that even I can
understand it!

David Lister





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 17:54
Subject: Re: Bidding deadline February 28th

Hi Michael,

Thanks so much for your bid. It appears to be the highest so you win:) Doug
Phillips, who donated and has the books has offered to absorb the cost of
shipping too. We are so pleased that you are helping us with this fund. It
appears that The Shumakovs WILL be able to come here for this year's OUSA
Convention thanks to the money we are raising.

You will need to send me a check for $50 and when I return (I'm going away for
a couple of weeks) I'll arrange for the books to be sent to you.

The check should be made out and sent to me:

Rachel Katz
45 Lone Oak Path
Smithtown, NY 11787

Thanks again and I hope to meet you at the Convention to thank you personally.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 18:03
Subject: Oops - Re: One Joyful Life

Sorry all, my message to June was meant to be sent privately.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: David Taylor <dataylor@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 19:17
Subject: Request for folding ideas

Michael Anderson announced...
>I am looking for a similar model that I can fold for variety.

My favorite of all the birds I know of (I once folded a line-up) is
Kasahara's Crane in Flight (p 133 of Origami Omnibus). It's fun to fold,
attractive, &--though the author doesn't say so--it flaps nicely.

--Elise

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
(Jim Elliot)





From: David Taylor <dataylor@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 19:17
Subject: Re: pending demise of the US $1 bill

Brian M says...
>Apparently, if the $1 coin is a hit, the US Treasury will cease production
>of the $1 bill because it isn't cost effective.

It must be a move by restaurant personnel. Do they need bigger tips, or are
they tired of unfolding things?
--Elise

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
(Jim Elliot)





From: David Taylor <dataylor@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 19:34
Subject: NO: Multilingualism

D. Lister proposed...
>And why not in French? I dare say that the French language has its own
>Internet Origami List, but I hope that there are no rigid barriers between
>paperfolders who happen to speak different languages. At any rate, the
>language of Origami is universal.

Actually, the French list specifies that contributions are to be "in  the
language of Molire." From time to time I read a discussion of France's
efforts to establish a bigger Francophone presence on the
WWW--understandable if you think it through. Although we Anglophones may
not intend to dominate worldwide communication, people of other backgrounds
might consider their access to information unfairly limited. I'd better
stop. This isn't a language forum!

Elise

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
(Jim Elliot)





From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Wong=20Sonny?= <w_sonny@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 19:52
Subject: Re: JOAS Membership and Books

Hi
Can I have a brief description of Yamaguchi's
 latest book "Joyful Life with Origami" ($19).
Thank you
Sonny
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From: zealous Fuse fanatic <origamifreak@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 21:41
Subject: MC Escher Patterns

Hello,

Haven't contributed for a while since moving from
Nevada to New York, but anyway, here's something y'all
might have fun with.

I have created some tesselations based on an MC Escher
pattern which can be folded up into a rather
satisfying stellated octahedron.  (Ala Joy of Origami
by Gross)  You can view/download the images here:

http://www.geocities.com/origamifreak/

enjoy,

anja
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From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 22:33
Subject: Re: JOAS Membership and Books

Dear June,  Please include me for an order for JOAS membership and six
magazines, Tanteidan Convention book and Yamaguchi's Joyfdul Life with
Origami.   Thanks.  James </ Sakoda.





From: Nancy Lau <Totoro1117@AOL.COM>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 22:49
Subject: Re: JOAS Membership and Books

hi...i'm new so can anyone please fill me in?

     nancy





From: Cindy Walker <cw@JPS.NET>
Date: 28 Feb 2000 22:58
Subject: Tanteidan insect book

June,  I'm interested in this, although I don't see the ad for it in the 5th
convention book or in Tanteidan Magazine 58.  Perhaps there's a more recent
issue that I don't have.  How much is it?

Cindy

>>     Inside the back cover of the latest Tanteidan is (I assume) an ad for
>>two books, one of which appears to be about Kawahata insects. Are these also
>>available through JOAS and you? I imagine more than a few of us would be
>>interested!
>
>Actually, that's a book of Tanteidan insects, not exclusively Kawahata's.
>And June should be able to get it.





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 29 Feb 2000 00:31
Subject: Re: JOAS Membership and Books

In a message dated 02/28/2000 7:53:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,
w_sonny@YAHOO.COM writes:

<< Can I have a brief description of Yamaguchi's
  latest book "Joyful Life with Origami" ($19).
  >>

Hi!  Here's a partial list of contents from Mr. Yamaguchi's "Joyful Life With
Origami" which is 200 pages long, has color photographs and over 50 models
diagrammed:

The book is divided into six parts:

    TABLE SENSE - 8 groupings (napkin folds, bowls, chopstick holders, candy
dishes, bottletop decorations, etc.)

    GREETINGS & GIFTS - 8 groupings (gift boxes, noshi envelopes, bottle neck
wraps, letterfolds, gift cards, shopping bag & cardholder)

    SMALL ITEMS & ACCESSORIES - 4 groupings (wallets, photo stand, tissue
case, brooch & earrings, barrette)

    INTERIOR DECORATION - 6 groupings (flower arrangements, mobile, namecard,
lampshade, vase)

    HOME PARTY FUN - 4 groupings (table settings, napkin rings, fish game,
party games)

    SEASONAL EVENTS - 7 groupings (New year's decorations, Kabuki lion
dancers, Hina dolls, tanabata steamers, various Christmas ornaments)

Sincerely,

June Sakamoto





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <LOKICORP@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 00:31
Subject: Re: JOAS Membership and Books

Message text written by Origami List
>Actually, that's a book of Tanteidan insects, not exclusively Kawahata's.
And June should be able to get it.<

        Are some (or all) of these the wonderful, presumably highly complex
models of which some photos are on the Tanteidan website?  If so, I'm
definitely interested in getting this book...

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 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 841-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2808
 LOKICORP@compuserve.com





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 29 Feb 2000 00:43
Subject: Re: JOAS Membership and Books

In a message dated 02/28/2000 10:50:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Totoro1117@AOL.COM writes:

<< hi...i'm new so can anyone please fill me in?
  >>

Dear Nancy,

Here are some new origami books to add to your library (partial list of
contents):

Tanteidan 5th Convention book (63 models, intermediate to complex, 256 pages,
Black & white softcover)

Chrysanthemum by Hiroaki Takai (simple modular flower with effective results)
Sports Car by Ryo Aoki
Case Crab by Yoshihisa Kimura (clever two pc model with small box for body)
Caterpillar by Hideo Komatsu
"Twister" by Miyuki Kawamura (30 pc modular star)
Spiral Box by Tomoko Fuse (4pc lid and 4pc base cut from A4 sized paper)
Nishiki Koi (Japanese Carp) by Go Kinoshita (color change to create spots on
back)
A number of dinosaurs, dragons and mythical creators by various Japanese
creators

Models by foreign creators:
Vase "Duet" by Yurii Shumakov (decorative vase with two holes for flowers)
Clown by Yurii & Katrin Shumakov (3D 5pc modular fits together without glue)
Oleander by Katrin Shumakov (1 or 2 pc flowers with leaf & stem assembly)
Edelweiss by Katrin Shumakov (multi piece flower with leaf & stalk assembly)
Seagull, Butterfly, Flapping Butterfly, Boomerang, Seashell & Cobra by David
Derudas (the boomerang really flies!, cobra on display was remarkable)
$ Pyramid and Balancing $ Eagle by Jeremy Shafer ($ eagle balances on $
pyramid)
Ostrich, Anteater and Alligator by Peter Budai
"Fluffy" by Marc Kirschenbaum (cute 3-D teddy bear model)

Here's a partial list of contents from Mr. Yamaguchi's "Joyful Life With
Origami" which is 200 pages long,  has color photographs and over 50 simple
to high intermediate models diagrammed:

The book is divided into six parts:

    TABLE SENSE - 8 groupings (napkin folds, bowls, chopstick holders, candy
dishes, bottletop decorations, etc.)

    GREETINGS & GIFTS - 8 groupings (gift boxes, noshi envelopes, bottle neck
wraps, letterfolds, gift cards, shopping bag & cardholder)

    SMALL ITEMS & ACCESSORIES - 4 groupings (wallets, photo stand, tissue
case, brooch & earrings, barrette)

    INTERIOR DECORATION - 6 groupings (flower arrangements, mobile, namecard,
lampshade, vase)

    HOME PARTY FUN - 4 groupings (table settings, napkin rings, fish game,
party games)

    SEASONAL EVENTS - 7 groupings (New year's decorations, Kabuki lion
dancers, Hina dolls, tanabata steamers, various Christmas ornaments)

The cost of the books are:

        Tanteidan 5th Convention book       $28.00
        Yamaguchi's book                    $19.00

Cost of the books includes shipping to overseas addresses.

Also available is membership to JOAS (Japan Origami Academic Society)
bi-monthly publication.  This magazine has a full color photo on the front
page, clear diagrams of models (intermediate to complex level) as well as
various articles and columns in Japanese.  The six issues/year membership
cost is $40.00/year.

The following information is required for their application form:

Full name
Mailing address
Telephone/Fax Nos.
E-mail address
Date of birth
Sex
Occupation
Hobbies

Please let me know if you are interested in any of the books and give me your
mailing address (and other details if interested in ordering JOAS
membership).  I will add your order to others and mail to Mr. Yamaguchi later
this week.  If you miss this mailing, the next one will be end of next month.
 :)

Sincerely yours,

June Sakamoto
9 Merrill Drive
Mahwah, NJ  07430

PS:  I can accept US personal checks, money orders, int'l postal money
orders, bank drafts, etc. in US currency.

PPS:  You will receive your publications directly from Tokyo about 3-4 weeks
after the order has been sent to Mr. Yamaguchi.





From: Lucille Jacobson <lucijay@HOME.COM>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 00:49
Subject: Dyeing/Cutting Paper

Hi, Everyone!

The real world jerked me back to reality for a while, and I had trouble
getting back here to thank you all for the wonderful suggestions on
colouring my paper.  I will try several methods, but really liked the
idea of using a sponge.  So that is where I started, haven't worked out
all the difficulties yet, but looks like it is going to be successful.

For cutting I use the old guillotine-style paper cutter because of the
magnitude of my Peace Crane 2000 Project.  I cut five sheets of paper
(stapled together in the center section which is discarded) at once.
Accuracy is not 100%, but with care - almost.

And yes, as someone commented, photocopy paper is stiff!  Since I work
in an office it is readily available, and makes the most sense to me.
As a bonus, I get the satisfaction of know I am re-cycling in a small
way.

Got my WebSite updated this weekend.  600 Peace Cranes strung - new
photo up - and on my way to 800.  I also added "Ring of Origami Art"
link.

from Lucille ~ folding my life away in Beautiful British Columbia
http://members.home.net/lucijay/





From: Lucille Jacobson <lucijay@HOME.COM>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 00:49
Subject: *Cranes*

Hi, Michael and *Welcome* from another newcomer to the list.

I was so happy to hear someone else is hooked on cranes.  Everyone on
the list is involved in all these great folds! I have plans to fold all
these really neat models that I have diagrams for - but spend all my
time on cranes because the process just facinates me!

from Lucille ~  friends call me the "Crane Queen" ~ no respect intended!
http://members.home.net/lucijay/





From: Howard Portugal <howardpo@MICROSOFT.COM>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 01:09
Subject: Re: JOAS Membership and Books

Hi June,

Please order me one of the convention books. I'll mail you a check.

Thanks,

Howard

Howard Portugal BP/7171
Microsoft Corp.
One Microsoft Way
Redmond, WA 98052

-----Original Message-----
From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM [mailto:Foldmaster@AOL.COM]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 3:32 AM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: JOAS Membership and Books

Dear all,

I will be sending another order to Japan soon for Japan Origami Academic
Society (JOAS) membership ($40/year for six magazine issues) and orders for
their Tanteidan Convention Book #5 ($28) and Yamaguchi's latest book "Joyful
Life with Origami" ($19).

If anyone is interested in ordering any of the above, please e-mail me right
away your intent to order and for further information.  Orders will be sent
to Japan later this week.  Next order will be end of next month  :)

Yours,

June Sakamoto





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 29 Feb 2000 02:51
Subject: Re: pending demise of the US $1 bill

If they don't make dollar bills anymore, what happens to the ring, the bow
tie, Washington crossing the Delaware, the aviators wings, Washington
laughing or crying  and several other bill folds that depend on the face of
George Washington.  Say, they can't do that to us moneyfolders, can they? No
fair!  And how the heck are we supposed to carry a pocket full of dollar
bills.  My pocket book is heavy enuf already.   Or maybe there won't be
anything to buy for a dollar anymore. And for heaven's sake. then what will
happen to the dollar stores....... Oh, well, when I was a kid we went to the
10 cent store, now we have dollar stores.  I guess these will change to $5
stores.  That's progress.   Dorigami





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 29 Feb 2000 02:54
Subject: Re: pending demise of the US $1 bill

About $2.00 bills, they make wonderful Christmas trees......when you can find
them. Dorigami





From: Elaina Quackenbush <elaina_quackenbush@NETZERO.NET>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 03:17
Subject: Re: $2.00 Bills

>About $2.00 bills, they make wonderful Christmas trees......when you can
find
>them. Dorigami
>
My bank has them toward the first of the month..you have to ask for them,
and I have to buy $10.00 worth (mainly because the lady got tired of me
asking for 1)

Elaina

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From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 29 Feb 2000 04:58
Subject: Re: Your Poverty Folds

A propos the short exchange of postings on this subject, Karen Reeds has
suggested that I may have records of Poverty Folds.

I regret, however that this is one aspect of folding of which I am ignorant.
As they do for Dorothy Engleman, they pique my curiosity.

Karen herself provides a lot of information. There appear to be two aspects
of the matter:

1. It involves recycling discarded scraps of paper of any kind.

2..It folds from rectangles and is not rigidly tied to squares.

It appears to me to be an approach which stimulates the imagination and I
should certainly like to know more about the origin of the term and of the
concept of "Poverty" folding.

Some aspects of it are already familiar, such as folding tea bags, brochures
and  busiess cards. But the scope is endless.

I have done a quick serch in the archives but obtained no response.

David Lister





From: Simon <godnomis@CHARIOT.NET.AU>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 07:29
Subject: Re: Your Poverty Folds :P~~~~~

yeah :*) how are you, i found that any thing is good to fold, i`m poor , and
bye reams foe 5 bucks. but when i`m out and about. any thing is cool , like
chocolate wrappers, i like kitkat`s.  :*)
anyway , if it works , don`t fix it.
castle

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              _,--'    __,-'      /,_,_v_Y_,_v\\-'   - Artist Unknown





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 29 Feb 2000 08:01
Subject: JOAS Membership Renewal and New Origami Insect Books

Dear All,

I have contacted Mr. Makoto Yamaguchi of Origami House Gallery in Tokyo
regarding Japan Origami Academic Society (JOAS) membership renewal
procedures.  Apparently membership renewal information is being included in
the next issue of their magazine.  This will be the final issue for the
current year.  He asked that I not accept any renewals until that time.

As for the insect book, this is the latest information available:

Originally one thick book of origami insect models by various creators was to
be published.  However, the number of pages has surpassed the original
estimate and it will now be published in TWO parts.  The first book will
contain models by Kawahata and Nishikawa and will be about 196 pages long.
The second book will contain models by Hojo, Maekawa and Meguro and will be
196 pages long also.

The first book is expected to be available sometime in April and the second
book in June, perhaps.  The cost has not been established yet.  Mr. Yamaguchi
has requested that I not accept orders for these books until they are
published and ready to be sent out.

I will keep the Origami List informed of any changes as soon as I hear of
news.  Please be patient -- I'm sure these books are well worth the wait!!!

Yours,

June





From: Elaina Quackenbush <elaina_quackenbush@NETZERO.NET>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 08:26
Subject: Re: Your Poverty Folds :P~~~~~

I agree...kit kat wrappers are the best.  But since I too am poor, and have
all the kids in my neighborhood over here to fold..I ask the newpaper for
the unfinished rolls.

I also like paper bags from grocery stores..wallets, and more useful folds
are good to get from them.

One other thing I really like:  The foil from cigarette wrappers.

Elaina

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From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 29 Feb 2000 08:39
Subject: Re: JOAS Membership and Books

In a message dated 02/28/2000 10:34:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU writes:

<< Dear June,  Please include me for an order for JOAS membership and six
 magazines, Tanteidan Convention book and Yamaguchi's Joyfdul Life with
 Origami.   Thanks.  James </ Sakoda.
  >>
Dear Dr. Sakoda,

Are you a current member of JOAS?  If so, renewal applications are not being
accepted until after the final issue is published, #60.  Renewal applications
will be distributed in that issue for current members.

As for Yamaguchi's book, yes I can order it for you.  Please e-mail me your
mailing address so that I can include it in my order to Japan this week.

June





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <LOKICORP@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 09:27
Subject: Re: pending demise of the US $1 bill

Message text written by Origami List
>If they don't make dollar bills anymore, what happens to the ring, the bow
tie, Washington crossing the Delaware, the aviators wings, Washington
laughing or crying  and several other bill folds that depend on the face of
George Washington.<

        It just means that all avid moneyfolders will have to start
carrying needle-nose pliers to see who's the best coin folder!  ;-D

 _,_
 ____/_\,) .. _
--____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
 /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 841-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2808
  LOKICORP@compuserve.com





From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 10:54
Subject: NO demise of the dollar

> Apparently, if the $1 coin is a hit, the US Treasury will cease production
> of the $1 bill because it isn't cost effective.

I hadn't heard this, but I would imagine that even if it were so it
would take severla years before they'd be phased out. I

> I was also told that vending machines are already being manufactured to be
     compatible with the new coin.

I think they already are. I would imagine that the size of the new coin
was made that size for that reason -- even though good ol' Susy B.
failed, you can still get them out of vending machines at the post
office (or at least ours does. I made the mistake of paying for $4 worth
of stamps with a $20 and got 16 of 'em back!

> I hope this is of interest to origami-l.  It appears you may soon be
> offering your $5 rings for $10.

:-D

Dee





From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 10:55
Subject: Re: pending demise of the US $1 bill

> aversion, amounting to a superstition, against even handling them! Are
> there others on line who remembr such a strange attitude?

No, but I had a clerk once give me 2 $2 bills instead of 2 ones and when
I tried to correct her, she threw a one at me and told me I wasn't
getting anymore!

Dee





From: Dee and Bob <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 10:55
Subject: Re: NO: Re: pending demise of the US $1 bill

>
> Anyway, so much for bill folding, eh?
>

Not at all -- it's just more expensive to part with the higher
denominations!





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 11:17
Subject: Re: NO demise of the dollar

Dee wrote:

>> Apparently, if the $1 coin is a hit, the US Treasury will cease
production
>> of the $1 bill because it isn't cost effective.
>even though good ol' Susy B.
>failed, you can still get them out of vending machines at the post
>office (or at least ours does. I made the mistake of paying for $4 worth
>of stamps with a $20 and got 16 of 'em back!

    I can't say I'm too impressed with the latest try at the dollar coin.
While it is a tad bigger than a quarter, you have to have them side by side
to see the difference. And the thickness is only slightly greater as well.
Whatever alloy they used doesn't have the heft it needs to give it any
substance, either... it feels much too light for its value. For something
that should be the equivalent of four quarters, it weighs only slightly more
than one. Not much of an improvement over the Susan B. Anthony (or 'Bi*ch
Buck as it was unaffectionately known), in my opinion.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 12:36
Subject: Re: Your Poverty Folds (long response)

>Some aspects of it are already familiar, such as folding tea bags,
brochures
>and  busiess cards. But the scope is endless.

  Other "Poverty Fold" categories:

Maybe also 3x5 index cards, magazine pages, business letterhead,
other junk mail, candy bar wrappers, cigarette package wrappers,
paper napkins, paper restaurant placemats, used giftwrap, the paper
that reams of paper come wrapped in, old calendar pages, used
coffee filters (washed and dried), cornhusks, leaves, blades of grass,
paper grocery bags (is it only in the USA that stores routinely give
away free kraft paper bags to hold your purchases? Lately more stores
are switching to or offering plastic bags.).

  Nick Robinson's "Wallet" using letterhead:

I get a lot of "junk mail", much of it either very colorful, or on business
letterhead (to make it look more respectable, I imagine). Since learning
Nick Robinson's "Wallet" (the one with two long pockets), and modifying it
to lock better, color-change the pocket separator, or modify the pocket
separator to be the cover-flap for a change pocket, I have been playing
with business letterheads and advertisements, to integrate the design on
the paper into the design of the wallet, so that the business name, and/or
address, phone, etc., or business logo, or interesting part of the ad,
will show up to advantage, either on the outside of the wallet, the inside
bottom panel, the cover-flap, the pocket separator, the top panel, or
some combination.

  Magazine pages:

I don't do as well with magazine pages.

For one thing, I'm a packrat, and can seldom bring myself to deface a
book or magazine by writing notes in it (I have recently learned to use
sticky notes to bookmark items of interest, and sometimes label them),
let alone ripping pages out, unless maybe I have LOTS of copies of
said magazine.

For another, I must not read the right quality of magazine; the pages I've
tried, the ink comes off onto my hands, the ink cracks, the paper cracks,
or the paper is too flimsy and won't hold its shape or even falls apart
on me. Rae Cooker (of "Strawberry" fame) has a friend Marvin Goody
up in Canada who apparently has good success folding magazine pages.
Apparently the magazines he gets use better quality paper and ink, or
maybe he has a better "touch" than I do.

  "Teabag Folding" Japanese Umbrellas from cigarette pack paper:

My sister gave me a photocopied set of instructions, in Japanese, for
making decorative little umbrellas, mostly made up of glued together
paper triangles folded from squares, cut from cigarette pack package
paper, using what appears to be a plastic template, and sliding the
template along the diagonal of the design, for successive squares,
so the slightly offset color patterns will align radially, to form
sillhouette
pictures on the resulting circular top. Neat idea.

Don't see why you couldn't do more of the same by pivoting the
template about a point in the original package design, instead of just
using the color pattern on the one diagonal.

My sister couldn't tell me where she picked it up. (I have this vague
memory that she offered it to me once, and I wasn't interested, then
I found it again years later, and recognized it as a kind of modular
origami, like what is now called "teabag folding", and realized I
wanted it after all.) I don't read Japanese, so I don't know where the
original was published, or how to get permission to share it.

Candy Wrappers:

I used to save the foiled paper from candy wrappers, tho I later decided
it was too flimsy for most of my folding. Being a packrat, I have a growing
stockpile of the little not-quite-square wrappers from the small bite-size
Hershey chocolate bars. I folded a pretty Michael LaFosse Butterfly from
one once. (Thank you Michael La Fosse, for that wonderfully variable
invention.)

  Junk Mail:

I have another Michael LaFosse Butterfly out of a colorful piece of junk
mail.
If I knew more about how to coat it to harden and preserve it, it would make
a nice piece of jewelry. Great color. Asymmetric pattern, but the color
makes up for that.

  Restaurant Placemats, and Paper Napkins:

It's an interesting challenge to try to show off parts of the designs on
Placemats and Napkins in boxes, or the wings of a bird. Sometimes
it works, sometimes it doesn't.

  Paper Wrappers from Reams of Paper:

These tend to be nice large sheets, and good strong paper. And there's
the challenge of using the logo/design on the paper, and hiding the glue,
and raw edges (open invitation to a papercut).

These are good for medium large boxes.

  Used Giftwrap:

I've been accumulating a stash, faster than I've come up with ideas to
fold from them. *sigh*.

(I did finally give up and throw out my accumulation of coffee filters.
I'd brought them home from work, to add the grounds to my neighbor's
compost pile, they're supposed to be good for the earthworms. After
emptying, it seemed a shame to waste them, so I washed and dried
them, but never found a use for them.)

Aloha,
Kenneth Kawamura ("Mad", new email: madhawn@concentric.net )





From: Mad <madhawn@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 12:38
Subject: Re: pending demise of the US $1 bill

"Washington crossing the Delaware"?

Huh? What's that one, I don't remember it.

Curious,
Kenneth Kawamura





From: Leong Cheng Chit <leongccr@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 13:06
Subject: Hyperbolic Trefoil

Hej The Great and Glorious Kalmon of the North,

>> Thoki, You achieved the forms with pleat folding, I think.
> Yes I like the very pleasants curves I get when I use
> pleat folding.
So, I thought correctly.

> I find it very interesting to see, that when I fold two wavesystems
> running at 90 degrees to each other on a square and work
> them together in the corners, that they then forms this
> interferens wave that I learned is called a hyperbolic paraboloid,
> I love that name. It is also called a saddel surface.
The fold lines on the paper need not be straight and parallel to one
another, as is the case for my hyperbolic trefoil.

> and it is a curve that one will find all over the human body
> under you chin, and between your fingers, in all joints,
> so we all live in an origami-skin full of creases
> forming all kinds of interferens waves.
I agree, we are all origami models in a sense. For curve surface folding
see:
http://www.paperfolding.com/chengchit/3d.html

> When I fold three wavesystems running 60 degrees
> on hexagone, and work them together, I get
> an interferens wave with three points up and three ponts down
> and it can be regarded as the thing you call a monkeysaddle.
One fold, as explained in the afore mentioned site, would do. If relatively
stiff paper is used, the fold remain rigid.

> To me that gives thoughts interfereing with other of my thoughts
> but you don't have to follow me there.
For me, thoughts on origami always intrude into my other thoughts.

> Greetings to all who has been reading this far.
> You can see my circular hyperbolic paraboloid on
> http://www.thok.dk/video.html
It's beautiful! With the hole in the middle, it would make a good saddle
for ... My origami thoughts are again intruding into my other thoughts! ;-)

Cheers!

Cheng Chit





From: I M <eldo1960@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 13:17
Subject: Re: pending demise of the US $1 bill

Well, it happened a long time ago.....
IM
-----------------------
"Washington crossing the Delaware"?

Huh? What's that one, I don't remember it.

Curious,
Kenneth Kawamura

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From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 14:00
Subject: Buying origami through the net!

Hej everyone!

Because I live in this Origamiforsaken city I have to buy my origamipaper
through the net (if I don't want my mum to buy me paper without knowing what
she'll buy) so I'd like to hear if you know some online origamipapershops near
Sweden? www.origamipaper.com which is placed in Sweden doesn't sell patterned
paper which is what I'm looking for, so which other online papershop which
sells patterned paper would be the closest to Sweden? (Want it t be close so
I'll get the paper sooner than 3 months like I would if I order from USA).
Hope to hear some URLS!
Thanks in advance!
                       Anine

PS. I'd prefer if the shop has scans of the paper so you can see what you get
before buying it.

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From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 14:12
Subject: Origami Sighting trivia

Greetings everybody,

A friend in San Francisco went to a Crane exhibit at the
Golden Gate Park Museum.  It was a photographic exhibit of
cranes, but hanging from the ceiling were dozens of strands
of large colored origami cranes.

Ria





From: Brian Moses <moses@POP.UKY.EDU>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 14:27
Subject: Re: Origami Sighting trivia

I'm enjoying your stories of origami sightings.  Does anyone recall an
episode of X Files (a TV show in North America) that featured an origami
model of Noah's Ark with pairs of animals?  I don't recall the episode
(can't stand the show, really), but I've been wondering if the artist was
credited.

Brian

> Greetings everybody,
>
> A friend in San Francisco went to a Crane exhibit at the
> Golden Gate Park Museum.  It was a photographic exhibit of
> cranes, but hanging from the ceiling were dozens of strands
> of large colored origami cranes.
>
> Ria





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 15:09
Subject: (NO) St. Patrick's Day (was Clover Fold Challenge)

Well, I know that St. Patrick's Day is an Irish festival, and I know who St.
Patrick was ... and I suppose the "cause" Dr. Stephen O'Hanlon refers to is
the Irish-British conflict... but that's about all. I'd like to hear more
about St. Patrick's Day and its folklore and how it is celebrated. Can
anyone out there tell me more about it?

Thanks in advance,

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 15:09
Subject: Re: Multilingualism

Thanks to David Lister and the others for their kind answers to my apology!
That was meant for sending a personal message to the list, not for writing
it in French... :-) Since English is the common language of this list, I'll
stick to it for general purposes, but if I can occasionally help someone by
using their own language (provided it's one I know, of course), welcome!

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Andy Fluke <afluke@VERMONTEL.NET>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 15:15
Subject: Re: Poverty Folds

My favorite "poverty folds" are candy wrappers.  I did a crane from a ginger
candy wrapper from Indonesia last evening and it turned out beautiful.  The
colorful nature of candy wrappers make them ideal.  I leave them all over the
workplace.

I'm not up on the mathmatics of origami.  I wonder, has anyone ever worked out
folds for the the standard chewing gum rectangle?  It seems its dimensions are
quite different from other common rectangles; ie, $1 bills.

Are folds from $1 bills considered poverty folds compared to folds from $100
bills (wealthy folds)? :]

Take care,

Andy
"at home and folding in the green mountains of vermont"





From: Vincent & Veronique <osele@NETCOURRIER.COM>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 15:18
Subject: Re: The Pajarita  Part Two

[...]
> "cocotte"
> In French, the related word, coquette is also the name given to a
> flirtatious woman (or worse) and the same word has passed into
> English with derivatives such as coquetry and coquettish.

I check my french dictionnary and effectively "coquette" come from
"coq" ! But coquette has no bad meaning, in evry context I know
(and
dictionary too). "Coq" could be bad when we talk about a man
(fanfaron
seducteur in french). What is more significant, is that cocotte could
be use as a lovely term but also for a a prostitute... and "cocotter"
(verb) mean that it's not smell good.

The term cocotte is also designated in french dictionnary as a
"fold paper which show a chiken".

Origamicalement
Vincent

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