




From: Nathan Webb <webbnc@ZEUTER.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 12:23
Subject: Re: Admin questions

Kalei

I just recently subscribed to the list, and have this original form with the
details you're looking for:

Cheers,
Nathan
Parry Sound, Canada

Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:53:25

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----- Original Message -----
From: K. A. Lundberg <klundber@MNSINC.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2000 1:35 AM
Subject: Admin questions

> It has been a while since I joined this list, so before I add the link to
> it, I have a few questions.
>
> Is there a page out there that gives a brief or not so brief overview of
the
> list that details things like the number of members, the average number of
> messages generated, etc?  When someone signs on to the list do they
receive
> a message warning that this is a high-volume list and asking for a
> confirmation before their membership is activated?
>
> Kalei





From: Nathan Webb <webbnc@ZEUTER.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 12:23
Subject: Re: Money Folding

I have just one question,  Why?
who would buy shredded money?
(how many of you are scratching your heads just like me, eh?)

Nathan
Parry Sound, Canada
----- Original Message -----
From: Gillian Wiseman <gilladian@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Money Folding

> Bags of shredded bills are sold by the Treasury or the Mint or somebody
> official. They shred used-up money, not good money still in circulation!
>
> Gillian
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com





From: Lynch Family <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 13:05
Subject: Re: Money Folding

Yes I have. We were folding things from dollars for one of our fund
raising events and taking two dollars for one folded dollar. People
acted like we were cheating them somehow. They didn't mind paying a
dollar for something folded out of kami, but they didn't want to pay two
for something folded out of money.

I am always amazed by the number of people who act like it is incredible
that we would sell PAPER! They never seem to take into account that
while the medium (media? I can never remember which is the plural and
which the singular) it might take the folder an hour (or more) to fold
the paper!

Dee

Florence Temko wrote:
>
> Re the regulations using coins to make them more valuable: I am often offered
> a dollar for a ring folded from a dollar bill. I usually say I will take $2
> and that I will
> contribute the extra dollar to a charity. I want people to appreciate the
> skill involved in enhancing the dollar, not for my own sake,  but for all the
> artisans and artists laboring out there.  Many times the offer is accepted,
> but it's amazing how many people will back off.  Has anyone else had similar
> experiences? Best from Florence.





From: Lynch Family <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 13:08
Subject: Re: Money Folding

I don't know -- but they do! I have seen it sold in very small bottles
with a tg saying something to the effect that you could be buying a
hundred dollars worth of shredded moeny for ONLY 5.99!!! Like it was
some big thing to have a hundred dollars worth of shredded money. I
guess you could try to impress people by using it to start fires or
something... :-)

Dee
Nathan Webb wrote:
>
> I have just one question,  Why?
> who would buy shredded money?
> (how many of you are scratching your heads just like me, eh?)





From: Lynch Family <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 13:14
Subject: Re: Miniatures!

I couldn't wait to get back on-line (my cpu had a booboo and we got it
fixed -- I hope!)

Anyway, I took my kids to get their hair cut on Sunday morning and I
decied to see how small I could fod a crane using only my fingernails.
Since I carry paper all the time, I pulled out a small piece of foil and
quartered it, then quartered one of the quarters - I guess I 1/16thed
it! ANYWAY! I folded a crane. It is so tiny! I was afraid it would blow
away! I wish I had some sort of camera. I measured an unfolded piece of
paper when I got home and it was 11mm... I impressed myself (and my
kids) :0)

Dee

PS Since I wrote this (I didn't send it right away) my feats have been
beaten, but that's ok, I still want to brag a bit! :-)

D





From: Lynch Family <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 13:14
Subject: Re: Miniature Origami

Didn't someone have a miniature Yoshino T-Rex skeleton on a page at one
time? I know I printed it, the T-Rex was barely bigger than a penny
(US). I think the captaion said that it had been folded from one inch
squares. I tried - I could do the rib pieces, but the tail bones were
too hard with just my fingernails (I'm even clumsier with tweezers you
see). I think it was J.C. Nolan...

Dee

> I've another tip for anyone who's still trying to get down this far, buy
> Origami Fantasy then try to fold any of the models from as small a piece of
> paper as possible... 20-30 inches works best in my opinion.





From: Lucille Jacobson <lucijay@HOME.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 13:16
Subject: Week in Review!

Happy Satur-Day-Off! (where applicable)

Miniatures!  That pretty well sums up my week.  Became absolutely
obsessed with them after last Saturday's efforts.  Made up a mini-kit
from a plastic lozenges box to carry in my purse.  Well, I needed some
way to carry the finished mini-cranes!

On the down side.........
~ I was bummed out Sunday when Bravenet who supplies my web tools had a
"database failure" and lost all new entries in my Guest Book!
~ I developed "a folding impediment" namely a scalpel cut in my thumb,
received while cutting little pieces of paper, of course.

Good thing I don't sweat the small stuff! ~ no reference to miniatures
here.

I got out my "ORIGAMI from Angelfish to Zen" to go over what Peter Engel
had said about his visit with Yoshizawa.  He was shown a crane folded
from a three millimeter square of  lotus flower paper.  Yoshizawa said
he used a very dim light - a four millimeter hole in a black lampshade
over a light bulb.  The theory is that the very complicated structure of
the eye adjusts to the light!  Yoshizawa also says he is the smartest
person in origami....and also the biggest maniac.

I have this idea rattling around in my head ~ I would like to exchange
mini-cranes with people on the list.  After folding cranes from 15 mm to
40 mm this week, I have discovered that 35 mm is the most comfortable,
and three fit nicely into a 35 mm film canister - which is easily
obtainable.  I picked up a padded mailer for $.20 which I took to the
Post Office (with canister enclosed) and asked for prices to mail to
different points in the world.  Interestingly, it costs $1.50 for
surface mail to most places i.e. Japan, England, Denmark, BUT $2.50 to
the U.S.  Hello? this is from Canada!  Go figure.  Anyway I consider it
do-able.  Any takers ~ three for three mini-cranes?

I will admit to an ulterior motive here.  I would like to include a few
cranes from my Peace Crane 2000 Project (details on my website) with
each mailing as a way to distribute them throughout the world.  I plan
to keep a thousand for a mobile and give away the second thousand.
Today I will be stringing Cranes 401 to 600, new photos will be on my
website within the week, along with a few mini-cranes.

from Lucille ~ Folding my life away in Beautiful British Columbia!

http://members.home.net/lucijay/





From: Atsina <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 13:16
Subject: Re: Money Folding

Someone was marketing it as fancy kitty litter recently. If they only shredded
it into strips it would be interesting to weave with, but the stuff I've seen is
confetti'd.

Kim Shuck

Lynch Family wrote:
>
> I don't know -- but they do! I have seen it sold in very small bottles
> with a tg saying something to the effect that you could be buying a
> hundred dollars worth of shredded moeny for ONLY 5.99!!! Like it was
> some big thing to have a hundred dollars worth of shredded money. I
> guess you could try to impress people by using it to start fires or
> something... :-)
>
> Dee
> Nathan Webb wrote:
> >
> > I have just one question,  Why?
> > who would buy shredded money?
> > (how many of you are scratching your heads just like me, eh?)





From: Lynch Family <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 13:16
Subject: Re: You know you've gone too far when...

Does is count when you're sitting in class folding and suddenly
realizing everyone around you is paying more attention to what you're
doing than they are to the instructor?

Jennifer Campbell wrote:
>
> You get honked at to get moving at a green light after you've spent the red
> light engrossed in origami!
> Anyone else do origami when/where they shouldn't?





From: Anool <anool@BOM3.VSNL.NET.IN>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 13:35
Subject: Jackstone Pictures

Jackstone and other pics added at my revamped, relocated site, try:

http://anools-origami.tripod.com/photoalbum/index.html

I managed the Jackstone on my second trial. Last I remember, I had made it
while in school around age 14. Looks like I would manage to update this site
faster than I imagined. Pictures thanks to my Sony Digital Camera that uses
a 1.44 floppy to store images. It's soooo convenient.

Anool J M
email: anools-origami@mailcity.com
web: http://www.anools-origami.tripod.com





From: Maarten van Gelder <VGelder@KVI.nl>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 13:41
Subject: Re: Admin questions

"K. A. Lundberg" wrote:
> Is there a page out there that gives a brief or not so brief overview of the
> list that details things like the number of members, the average number of
> messages generated, etc?

You may find some information in the archives of this list at:

   http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/

--
Maarten van Gelder    KVI - Groningen, Netherlands    vgelder@kvi.nl





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 14:25
Subject: Re: Miniatures

Joe,
At 23.34 17/2/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>Look at the link below to see a Pajarita that makes a flea
>look like an elephant! (second to last photo)

The topic "miniature origami" was already discussed on this list, long ago
(March, 1997). Your letter reminds me of a posting I sent at that time,
which I quote here again with added image support:

************************************************************
(22/3/1997)
Still on the subject of micro-models I can mention that, years ago, I
proposed a competition for the "smallest possible pajarita" in issue 3 of
"Quadrato Magico", newsletter of Centro Diffusione Origami (July, 1981).
Here is the text of my challenge:
--------------------------------
"As reported by Ramon Gomez de la Serna in "Variaciones" (1922), it happened
one day that the great Spanish philosopher and writer Miguel de Unamuno, a
passionate paperfolder, received from his pupil Venegas a short message with
a tiny pajarita glued on. The text was: "A que no es usted capaz de hacer
una pajarita mas pequena de esta ? (Aren't you able to fold a pajarita
smaller than this one ?)". Shortly after, Venegas got his message back with
Unamuno's reply "Si', senor. Estas dos. (Yes, sir. These two.)", followed by
a couple of microscopical pajaritas ! <see (1)>.
Well, would you accept Unamuno's challenge ? Send us the smallest pajarita
you can fold, giving the size of the original square. Only well folded
models will be accepted, clearly showing the distinctive features of the
pajarita.
===============================
The winner was Andrea Sterbini from Rome, with a pajarita folded from a 2.4
mm square (all the entries are still in my archive) <see (2)>. Andrea has
kept folding micro-models since then, his best result being a John
Richardson's
"hedgehog" resting on a fingertip..... <see(3)>

(1) http://www.zen.it/~morassi/pics/unam.jpg
(2) http://www.zen.it/~morassi/pics/paja.jpg
(3) http://www.zen.it/~morassi/pics/hed.jpg
*******************************************************

Well, after seeing the flea - pajarita pair, I doubt that Andrea's record
is still valid..... ;-) (I suppose the graph paper is scaled in millimeters).

Roberto





From: Kelly Reed <Kelly@WHITING.LIB.IN.US>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 14:27
Subject: Re: Week in Review!

Hi Lucille!  (I hope this is not going to everyone)

My name is Kelly Reed and I am a children's librarian in Whiting, Indiana.
     (much closer to Chicago than it sounds)  I teach origami to kids about
     once a month and I also have a (very small) group I loosely call Book
     Club.  We have only met a few times, bu

I don't know if many of my kids would be able to fold a crane small enough to
     fit in a film canister, but I know they would like the exchange process.
     Is there anything else we could trade?  I really liked the film canister
     idea.  I guess I should also s

Let me know if anything strikes you as interesting.

Thanks,
Kelly

kelly@whiting.lib.in.us





From: Anool <anool@BOM3.VSNL.NET.IN>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 14:51
Subject: what is a Pajarita ?

Pardon my ignorance of Spanish.

But is Pajarita a "Small Bird" or a "Bow Tie"

Origami links give me the former and Learn Spanish links give the later
explanation.

TIA,

Anool J M
email: anools-origami@mailcity.com
web: http://www.anools-origami.tripod.com

----- Original Message -----

-----snip------
> Joe,
> At 23.34 17/2/2000 -0800, you wrote:
> >Look at the link below to see a Pajarita that makes a flea
> >look like an elephant! (second to last photo)
>
-----snip-----
> Still on the subject of micro-models I can mention that, years ago, I
> proposed a competition for the "smallest possible pajarita" in issue 3 of
> "Quadrato Magico", newsletter of Centro Diffusione Origami (July, 1981).





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: 19 Feb 2000 15:10
Subject: [NO] Paper Thread (was Re: Money Folding)

Subj:   [NO] Paper Thread (was Re: Money Folding)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:10:48 -0500
To: atsina@hooked.net

In a message dated 2/19/2000 1:16:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
atsina@HOOKED.NET writes:

> If they only shredded
>  it into strips it would be interesting to weave with, but the stuff I've
> seen is
>  confetti'd.
>

Interesting thought. In a book that I'm too lazy to go get
at the moment, I read a description of an old, and maybe
extinct, Japanese craft (art?) of making kimonos from
paper, by slitting sheets of paper, rolling and
twisting the paper strip into thread, weaving the
thread into cloth, dyeing the cloth (I think), then
cutting and sewing the cloth into clothes. Very
labor-intensive and expensive. I forget the
original reason for doing it. Maybe just evolved
from using sheets of paper as makeshift clothing,
like hiding under a newspaper in the rain?

I don't know whether it was valued more as a rare
collectible curiosity, or for the labor that went in it.

But I can imagine carrying it further, and using money
as a starting material. Don't think I have the patience
to do it, tho.

But you know, I wonder what kind of dyes would work
on paper money? It might be fun to tie-dye money.
Or batik it.

And, going back to an earlier idea in this thread,
there are several tricks and papercraft ideas that involve
slitting or cutting the paper without removing any of it.
I guess those could be done to money, since the intent
would be crafting an art object.

Wonder who first discovered that neat trick of slitting
a rectangle and braiding it into a three piece braid
without cutting the ends of the strand free. I think I
learned that from Martin Gardner's old Mathematical
Games column in Scientific American magazine. I
miss that column.

There were a couple of other neat tricks like that in
Scott Morris's Games column in (the now defunct
magazine) Omni (I think, or was it Discover?).
Anyone know where Scott Morris can be reached?
My contact info is out of date. I'm looking for a
snail-mail address, specifically, tho an email
address would be nice.

(And by the way, "medium" is the singular, plural is
"media". There's a whole declension of Latin nouns
that follow that pattern, -um/-a, like datum, stadium,
... . I think they're neuter gender, grammatically.

Come to think of it, I guess it is confusing, since there
is the whole other declension of Latin nouns of
feminine gender (grammatically) where the singular
ends in -a and the plural ends in -ae, e.g.
femina/feminae. At least that's what I seem to remember.

Gee. It's been a long time since I thought about Latin.
Let's see, nouns and adjectives "decline" , verbs
"conjugate", ..., I remember bits and pieces. )

(And yes, the subject is a pun, I couldn't resist.)

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura





From: Nina Ostrun <gavs-413@MTU-NET.RU>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 15:23
Subject: Re: Origami in Fine Art.

> If anyone know of any other illustrations of origami in works of fine art,
I
> shall be very grateful for the information.
Dear David,
In Moscow, in Tretiakovskaya gallery, there is a picture of P.Petrov "The
boy with the book", 1855. Near the boy there is a some origami model.
We are going to show this picture on the site of our Origami Museum.

Nina Ostrun.
mailto:gavs-413@mtu-net.ru





From: THOKI YENN <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 17:26
Subject: test Oh test again.

Dear Friends

The unbelievable has happened
I have not received any mail from the List
to day. Is that really possible.
If this one goes through
then please look at
http://www.thok.dk/vanity2.html

The desparate Kalmon of the North.





From: THOKI YENN <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 17:26
Subject: test Oh test again.

Dear Friends

The unbelievable has happened
I have not received any mail from the List
to day. Is that really possible.
If this one goes through
then please look at
http://www.thok.dk/vanity2.html

The desparate Kalmon of the North.





From: Lucille Jacobson <lucijay@HOME.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 17:30
Subject: Re: Trade ideas

Hi, Kenny:

In an attempt at brevity, I had tried to make my post as succinct as
possible.  It was never my intention to mail out 1,000 cranes!  Of the
2,000 I am folding this year, I will make a mobile of 1,000 which I
intent to keep.  The other 1,000 will be given away.  I have already
started this process by giving to people who show an interest....or just
leaving them in restaurants etc.  Towards the end of the project, I will
mail them out in lots to various addresses I have found on the Internet.

I certainly did not plan on including everyone on this mailing list, nor
did I expect everyone to be interested in participating!  I would
certainly not expect anyone to praticipate who could not afford the cost
of postage.  Judging from last Saturday discussions on miniatures, it
seemed to me there were about ten to twelve involved in posting
messages.  If there was any interest in trading, I planned to suggest I
would do a trade with the first ten or twelve people to e-mail me
privately. At which time we could exchange addresses and discuss the
details, such as signing and dating.

I agree ~ 35 mm "...doesn't sound that small", but it is the smallest I
am willing to fold (and expect others to fold) ~ for a trade.  At the
very start, I discarded the idea of mailing them flat to save postage.
I recently participated in a day-long folding session at our local
community centre, and discovered that not everyone's cranes look the
same.  I myself have a distictive style which I like ~ I would want
anything I send out to show precisely what MY cranes look like.

My apologies for the long winded messages ~ to those not interested in
miniatures and/or trades!  One of the things I really appreciate about
this list is the short easy-to-read posts. I will attempt to be more
concise in the future.

from Lucille ~ Folding my life away in Beautiful, SUNNY (today, anyway)
British Columbia

http://members.home.net/lucijay/

Kenny1414@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/19/2000 2:27:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Kelly@WHITING.LIB.IN.US writes:
>
> > Hi Lucille!  (I hope this is not going to everyone)
>
> (It was/did. Pardon me for butting in.)
>
>     <snip>
> > I don't know if many of my kids would be able to fold a crane small enough
> to
> > fit in a film canister, but I know they would like the exchange process.
> Is
> > there anything else we could trade?
>
> You know, non-miniature cranes can be folded flat
> and mailed in an ordinary envelope.
>
> Perhaps, trade autographed cranes, folded flat.
> I'd suggest sign, date, and put a return address
> on each crane you send, if that isn't too much
> trouble.
>
> You could also save on postage, I think, if you
> batched the cranes for a class into one package.
>
>
> Lucille, $1.50-$2.50 per person may not seem like
> much, but for 1,000 cranes, at 3/mailing, that's
> some $1,000-$2,500 dollars being spent, half by
> you, and half by the list members. And that's
> just the postage. Are you doing that calculation in
> Canadian dollars, or USA dollars? It makes
> a difference.
>
> And I'm not sure the cost of posting is reflexive.
> I suspect  it may cost more to send something
> to you from other countries, than it costs you to
> send to them.
>
> Plus, at least some of us are retirees or otherwise
> income-challenged, and using email because it's
> more affordable than phoning or mailing. Let me
> put it this way, which of my friends and relatives
> do you want me to not send a birthday card, get
> well card, Xmas card or letter to, this year?
> (Hopefully it won't come to that -- but there is a
> tradeoff.)
>
> "surface mail to most places i.e. Japan, England,
> Denmark"? Oh, surface as opposed to air mail !
> So going by sea is surface? Wonder how many
> weeks that would take.
>
>
> Also, I'm not sure there are 333 list members who
> fold miniatures. Then again, I don't know how much
> the list may have grown. And if non-list members
> like Kelly's students get into the act ...?
>
>
> Hmm -- 35 mm = 3.5 cm, is that around 1.4 inches?
> That doesn't sound that small ...
>
> Oh, you didn't include your  mailing address.
> Has it occurred to you that many people on the list
> may not be able to afford the expense of going to
> your website to look for it? There are still places
> where Internet and web access is billed by the
> byte, line, message, or hour, instead of flat rate,
> you know.
>
> Anyway, good luck with your folding projects.
> Just be careful what you ask for. There are always
> unintended consequences.
>
> Aloha (from sometimes sunny Michigan, USA),
> Kenneth M. Kawamura





From: "Dragonia Radar Freedom, C.S." <modonnel@JETSTREAM.NET>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 18:01
Subject: Re: Miniatures

Taking a look at some of the accomplishments that some people have had has more
than slightly decreased my self-congratulations on my ability to fold a Kawasaki
rose from a 1.5" piece of paper...

Ah well.  Time to try some more :)





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 18:08
Subject: Re: test Oh test again.

Dear Thoki,

Your message to the list brought a tear to my eye.  I'm sure your
desperate act will pay off!  Please stay calm and drink some hot cocoa.
Until your avalanche of mail arrives,  please design some more wonderful
Pureland fairy tale and literary faces like Scheherezade!

My warmest regards!
Dorothy





From: Terry Buse <tbuse@VSTA.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 21:51
Subject: Re: what is a Pajarita ?

it's a parrot

----------
> From: Anool <anool@BOM3.VSNL.NET.IN>
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: what is a Pajarita ?
> Date: Saturday, February 19, 2000 7:48 PM
>
> Pardon my ignorance of Spanish.
>
> But is Pajarita a "Small Bird" or a "Bow Tie"
>
> Origami links give me the former and Learn Spanish links give the later
> explanation.
>
> TIA,
>
> Anool J M
> email: anools-origami@mailcity.com
> web: http://www.anools-origami.tripod.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> -----snip------
> > Joe,
> > At 23.34 17/2/2000 -0800, you wrote:
> > >Look at the link below to see a Pajarita that makes a flea
> > >look like an elephant! (second to last photo)
> >
> -----snip-----
> > Still on the subject of micro-models I can mention that, years ago, I
> > proposed a competition for the "smallest possible pajarita" in issue 3
of
> > "Quadrato Magico", newsletter of Centro Diffusione Origami (July, 1981).





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 03:59
Subject: Re: Money Folding

Florence,
At 21.12 18/2/2000 EST, you wrote:
>Re the regulations using coins to make them more valuable: I am often offered
>a dollar for a ring folded from a dollar bill. I usually say I will take $2
>and that I will
>contribute the extra dollar to a charity. I want people to appreciate the
>skill involved in enhancing the dollar, not for my own sake,  but for all the
>artisans and artists laboring out there.  Many times the offer is accepted,
>but it's amazing how many people will back off.

Maybe they don't trust you, and think of a cheat behind that (i.e. the
charity is yourself......). If you fold the same model from a normal piece
of paper, and offer it at 1$, it may have more chances of being accepted.
I'm not sure that you are "enhancing the dollar" by folding it, at least in
terms of bare value. A bill has a conventional value which can be 1$,
5$....100$, depending on what's written on it. The "added" value is what
you would ask for any craftsmanship product and is arbitrary, depending on
what you evaluate the time and skill involved. Can these two "values" be
added together ?

Roberto





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 03:59
Subject: Re: Money Folding

Gillian,
At 13.40 18/2/2000 PST, you wrote:

> don't you think folding (even cutting) a dollar makes it worth more
>than just a dollar, if the end result is beautiful?

No. I can't think of the "value" of an origami model in monetary terms....
A dollar, when used for folding, is just a piece of paper like any other.

Roberto





From: Jenna Morris <SkeeezixPA@AOL.COM>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 05:00
Subject: Re: Yet Another Transparent Paper Question

Hi Garrett...
I've seen brochures, college catalogs, etc with similar inserts myself.  Was
in my local giant craft store (A. C. Moore) the other day and ran across some
similar stuff in the rubber stamping/scrapbooking/etc department.
Translucent, somewhat stiff with a frosty look... sold by the sheet for $ .29
US.  They had it in yellow, blue, red, white, white on white patterned.  No
mention of a company name, though I'm sure I could investigate further.
Didn't pick up any for folding last time but I'll be sure to next time I go
and let you know how it works out.
Jenna

In a message dated 00-02-19 16:00:37 EST, you write:
> From:    Garrett Alley <garrett@VIADOR.COM>
>  An office-mate of mine just received a fancy package from United airlines (
> because he's now a 'Gold' or 'Platinum' member) and enclosed was a
brochure.
> The brochure's cover is a transparent/translucent blue paper that seems a
tad
> stiff, but it holds a crease well enough. This is some great paper, and I
was
> wondering if anyone on the list knows the name of the paper (to make my
> search for a supply that much easier).





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 05:25
Subject: Shopping!

Hello
        I'm about to go to Paris for a holiday and was wondering if there were
     any
good shops for paper or origami materials that I could visit while I was
there. I tried the various links from Joseph Wu's page but France does not
come out well. Any help?

        As an aside, I was in Paris about 6 years ago and found a Japanese
     shop. I
spent about 5 or 10 minutes in my horrific schoolboy French trying to ask
for 'papier pour le pliage' or 'libre pour le pliage'. My wife, who speaks
French was in a corner giggling by this time and refusing to help me out. It
then dawned on me that the assistants were talking to each other in Japanese
and might just understand the word 'origami'. I eventually left with a book
that appears to be a combination of Senbazuru and Kan-no-mado. Not bad
really.

                                                                Dennis





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 07:26
Subject: Concealed subscribers

Can anyone enlighten me as to why this list should allow the facility for
subscribers to conceal their subscription? (or even their identity?)

Isn't that a bit like listening at keyholes?

Just curious ....

Dave Mitchell





From: Maarten van Gelder <VGelder@KVI.nl>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 08:35
Subject: Re: Concealed subscribers

Dave Mitchell wrote:
>
> Can anyone enlighten me as to why this list should allow the facility for
> subscribers to conceal their subscription? (or even their identity?)
>
> Isn't that a bit like listening at keyholes?

That is one view.

Everone (Joseph?) can ask the listserver for the list of not concealed
members.
And that list is published every month in the archives.
So if someone likes to spam all of us ...

Well, maybe I shouldn't publish that list ...

--
Maarten van Gelder    KVI - Groningen, Netherlands    vgelder@kvi.nl





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <LOKICORP@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 09:31
Subject: Re: Concealed subscribers

Message text written by Origami List
>Everone (Joseph?) can ask the listserver for the list of not concealed
members.
And that list is published every month in the archives.
So if someone likes to spam all of us ...<

        This can and does happen. On the Dinosaur ListServer, last week,
everyone was e-mailed a large photo attachment, against their will.
Apparently, someone got a hold of the subscriber list and used it for their
own purposes.  Didn't bother me that much, but a lot of people still (!)
pay for their connections by the length of messages, so gigantic
attachments are truly unwelcome.

 _,_
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--____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
 /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 841-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2808
  LOKICORP@compuserve.com





From: Rona Gurkewitz <GURKEWITZ@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 10:24
Subject: Re: [NO] Paper Thread (was Re: Money Folding)

I saw a use for shredded money in an art gallery. It had been used
to cover eggs. (The money was shredded into strips.)

Rona





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 20 Feb 2000 10:32
Subject: Re: What is a Pajarita ?

Terry Buse wrote in answer to thie question, What is a Pajarita?:

"It's a parrot".

No it isn't: It's a little sparrow!

David Lister.





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 10:37
Subject: Re: What is a Pajarita ?

> What is a Pajarita?:
>
>  "It's a parrot".
>
>  No it isn't: It's a little sparrow!

I always thought it was a little seal

Dave





From: Lory <lory@NETSIS.IT>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 10:37
Subject: Jackstone

Hi,

I have "More Origami" by Harbin so I've tried to fold the Jackstone by
Jack Skillman but I have had problem with the step from page 127 to
page 128. I've checked the archive for old emails about this model but
I didn't find useful suggestions about this step.
Does anyone write me some suggestions about my problem, in my private
e-mail box (lory@netsis.it) if you think it would be better?

Thank you very much,
Lorenzo

Lorenzo Lucioni     lory@netsis.it      Parma, Italy





From: Terry Buse <tbuse@VSTA.COM>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 13:47
Subject: Re: What is a Pajarita ?

Well according to my Spanish/English dictionary a pajarita is "a small bird
especially one folded from paper."
I thought it looked like a parrot....maybe it's open to interpretation.

----------
> From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: What is a Pajarita ?
> Date: Sunday, February 20, 2000 3:34 PM
>
> > What is a Pajarita?:
> >
> >  "It's a parrot".
> >
> >  No it isn't: It's a little sparrow!
>
> I always thought it was a little seal
>
> Dave





From: Kelly Dunn <Kellydunn@AOL.COM>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 13:48
Subject: Re: test Oh test again.

In a message dated 2/19/00 2:26:21 PM, thok@THOK.DK writes:

<< http://www.thok.dk/vanity2.html >>

Wow! That is sooo neat! I am so impressed. (notice the little heart
on Thoki's shirt...aw!) It's magical!
Kelly





From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 14:13
Subject: Tomoko Fuse Quilt origami book search

Hej!

What's going on with Kimscrane? The other day it couldn't find the URL
www.kimscrane.com and today it found it but when I click enter the store it
says:

Not Found

The requested URL /cgi-bin/kimscrane.com/webcart/webcart.cgi was not found on
this server.

Apache/1.3.9 Server at www.kimscrane.com Port 80

Anyway, anyone can show me a cover of this book?

Fuse, Tomoko Origami Quilts
Japan Publications
Trading,1997, UK, Paper

Amazon.com doesn't have it...
Hope to hear from you soon!
                                 Anine

____________________________________________________________________
Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1





From: kcrane <kcrane@KIMSCRANE.COM>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 14:43
Subject: Re: Tomoko Fuse Quilt origami book search

Hello Everyone:
Yes, we are still in operation (well sorta).  Presently we are moving
our site to a new ISP provider.  We are also incorporating a newer
version of our shopping cart.  You may access our online shopping cart
via this temporary address:
http://kreative.net/kimscrane.com
We should be functional by Wednesday at the latest.  At that time we
will be using the regular address:
http://www.kimscrane.com
We apologize for this inconvenience.
Sincerely,
Gordon and Kimberly Crane

Anine Cleve wrote:
>
> Hej!
>
> What's going on with Kimscrane? The other day it couldn't find the URL
> www.kimscrane.com and today it found it but when I click enter the store it
> says:
>
> Not Found
>
> The requested URL /cgi-bin/kimscrane.com/webcart/webcart.cgi was not found on
> this server.
>
> Apache/1.3.9 Server at www.kimscrane.com Port 80
>
> Anyway, anyone can show me a cover of this book?
>
> Fuse, Tomoko Origami Quilts
> Japan Publications
> Trading,1997, UK, Paper
>
> Amazon.com doesn't have it...
> Hope to hear from you soon!
>                                  Anine
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@MOEBIUS.INKA.DE>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 15:26
Subject: Re: Concealed subscribers

On Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 02:34:34PM +0100, Maarten van Gelder wrote:
> Everone (Joseph?) can ask the listserver for the list of not concealed
> members.  And that list is published every month in the archives.  So
> if someone likes to spam all of us ...  Well, maybe I shouldn't
> publish that list ...

Don't worry about that -- it has already happened. (Or I don't know how
that person got all those e-mail addresses.)

--
Yours, Sebastian <skirsch@t-online.de>

Q: What animal would you be if you could be an animal?
A: You already are an animal.





From: I M <eldo1960@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 15:31
Subject: Re: What is a Pajarita ?

It amazes me how someone will hold on to a mistaken notion even when the
matter is trivial, resorting to arguments such as "it's open to
interpretation."
Among Spanish speaking people,la pajarita is not used for parrot (el
perico).
Most often it does mean a stylized paper folded BIRD.  It is also used in
some contexts as sort of idiomatic for bow tie. (you fold them too, unless
you buy a pre-folded one.)
IM
---------------------

Well according to my Spanish/English dictionary a pajarita is "a small bird
especially one folded from paper."
I thought it looked like a parrot....maybe it's open to interpretation.

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com





From: Anool <anool@BOM3.VSNL.NET.IN>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 16:25
Subject: Kawasaki Rose & other pictures

Hi,

I have just uploaded pictures of the Kawasaki Rose, Jackstone (better than
my first try), and another miniature Flapping Bird (from 8 mm square) at:

http://anools-origami.tripod.com

Shall appreciate comments or feedback.

Anool J M

email: anools-origami@mailcity.com
web: http://www.anools-origami.tripod.com





From: Jeadams1@AOL.COM
Date: 20 Feb 2000 17:12
Subject: Sphinx Diagrams Up!

I just added diagrams to my Sphinx model at
http://members.aol.com/jeadams1/origami.html. Enjoy!

Jim





From: David Taylor <dataylor@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 18:38
Subject: Re: Concealed subscribers

Dave Mitchell wondered...

>Can anyone enlighten me as to why this list should allow the facility for
>subscribers to conceal their subscription? (or even their identity?)
>
>Isn't that a bit like listening at keyholes?

I can't speak for others, but in some discussions I have more to learn than
to say. Also, I try to consider the fact that my contemplations land
uninvited in mailboxes of many busy people.
Speaking of contemplations, perhaps the problem with paying more than $1
for a folded $1 is that money always seems like money and will eventually
be spent? That is, maybe for some it's hard to think of something as art
when you can smooth it out & spend it? Not that I take that view.
--Elise

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
(Jim Elliot)





From: "Gary W. Boyd" <mini@VOLSTATE.NET>
Date: 20 Feb 2000 19:16
Subject: Sculptures

Hello folders,

   Thanks to all who have helped me along the way with suggestions and words of
     encouragement.  I am looking for more people who have folded metals into
     large sculptures.

   I was unaware that some people's connection to the Internet charge them by
     how big an e-mail message is.  I pay a flat rate and apologize to anyone
     that I have caused a large bill because of the files I e-mailed privately.
     I'll remember to ask first f

   Humans must be included in material possibilities; I have often been told to
     "get bent".

          Gary Boyd
Constructive Alternatives
     mini@volstate.net

Creature Console
http://www.miniaturemonuments.com





From: John Blackman <blackman@XS4ALL.NL>
Date: 21 Feb 2000 05:25
Subject: Re: Money Folding

Nathan Webb wrote:
>
> I have just one question,  Why?
> who would buy shredded money?
> (how many of you are scratching your heads just like me, eh?)
>
Somebody in Holland had a clever idea. You can buy paper with bits of
shredded money in it. It looks quite pretty, the money here has nice
colours. The paper is called 'Pecunia'.

An de Vries





From: Rob Hudson <FashFold@AOL.COM>
Date: 21 Feb 2000 10:57
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 19 Feb 2000 to 20 Feb 2000 (#2000-51)

Speaking of lengths of messages, I still am getting a poorly formatted chunk
of gobbledy-gook at the end of some messages-- possibly a sig file of some
kind? Whatever happened to limiting sigs to 3 lines or fewer?





From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: 21 Feb 2000 16:07
Subject: Money Value

Roberto: You are raising two interesting points in your message to Gillian
and myself. When you say a dollar is just a dollar you are referring to it as
a medium of exchange. At the same time (to me) it is also an extremely finely
made, long lasting piece of paper. When an origami is made from costly
handmade paper nobody seems to consider the value of the paper apart from the
craftsmanship. Of course when it is unfolded it may not retain its value.
That's one difference.
    About charging for origami folded from money bills, other paperfolders
seem to have my experience. You made me think that it's in the presentation.
Saying "You can have a $1 ring for $2" does not explain why the object is now
worth it. Perhaps I'll experiment next time and try to explain briefly that's
it's the craftsmanship. Of course, you are quite right, I am really intending
to cheat and would put the money in my own piggy bank. Sshh.
    If we make the ring quickly in front of people, they think it's simple.
"Why, it only took you two minutes." (Some crafters may spend a couple of
hours on their work and get fortunes, but we won't go into that.)  Spectators
may ask: "Will you show me how before my plane leaves and boarding has
already begun." They don't believe it will take more time because we make it
look so easy.
    About charging for origamis made from kami I give them away so I don't
know what the reactions would be.
    Basically the added fascination for origami folded from money, derives
not only from its intrinsic value but its role in our society. Best from
Florence.





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: 21 Feb 2000 16:22
Subject: Tissue Paper

Hi all,

For those people who use a lot of tissue paper (possible for foil-backing),
I found a good source. Shipping companies often carry packing tissue, but
Robbins (1 888 251-1297) in Brooklyn NY (soon to be 845-255-2177) carries
tissue paper in a huge variety of colours. It really is not for me, as you
have to place bulk orders. I think the minimum size (1 ream) contains 400
sheets, at a good price of $30. They also carry prints and metalic colours
at slightly higher prices.

Marc





From: Sjaak Adriaanse <S.Adriaanse@INTER.NL.NET>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 09:20
Subject: Elsje van der Ploeg

I am sorry to say that Elsje van der Ploeg has had a stroke. Fortunately,
she is home again and has already recovered for the most part, after eight
days in hospital and being rightsidedly paralysed for a while. Let us hope
she will recover 100%.

For those who want to send her best wishes by snail-mail:

Elsje van der Ploeg
Stationsdwarsstraat 11
6662 AZ Elst
THE NETHERLANDS

She especially likes folded letters and envelopes, that's why she founded
the Dutch branch of ELFA (Envelope and Letterfold Association). She is also
very fond of cats.

email: evdploeg@betuwe.net

You can also put a message at her home page: http://www.betuwe.net/pepi/

Elsje discovered Internet only a short while ago. Let's show her what being
part of an Internet community really means!

Greetings,
Sjaak

--------------------------------------------------------------
We perform the miracles.
                          Kate Bush





From: Vincent & Veronique <osele@NETCOURRIER.COM>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 14:55
Subject: Re: What is a Pajarita ?

Hello,

> Well according to my Spanish/English dictionary a pajarita is "a
> small bird especially one folded from paper." I thought it looked
> like a parrot....maybe it's open to interpretation.

In France, it's a bird too, but near the cheaken.
In French, we call this "une cocotte en papier".
It's well knowed here because this fold is associated with the lack
of
work of Civil Service (civil administration) : when they have nothing
to do (that hapend lot of time say the legend...) they fold some
"cocotte" !

Origamicalement
Vincent

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From: Vincent & Veronique <osele@NETCOURRIER.COM>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 14:55
Subject: Shopping! (in Paris)

Hello Dennis,

>         I'm about to go to Paris for a holiday and was wondering
> if there were any good shops for paper or origami materials that I
> could visit while I was there. I tried the various links from
> Joseph Wu's page but France does not come out well. Any help?

In Paris, you have the MFPP, the french association.
It's address is :
  56, rue de Coriolis
  75012 PARIS
  01.43.43.01.69
and there is a email now !!!
  mfpp@worldonline.fr

Their meeting are each saturday afternoon from 15h00 I think (chek
 this with a mail to mfpp).
There are some paper, books (lot of books) and people !

There are also some Japanese shops but I don't know yet

Here is I found on the french origami list :
Chantelivre
Trois hiboux (Le Bon March)
Graphigro: Paris 15eme 157-159 rue Lecourbe 0142504549
MUJI (Formu des halles,ou a cot Grands Magasins)
Librairie Japonaise Junku : 18 rue des Pyramides 75001 PARIS
Fenetre sur l'Asie : 49 rue Gay Lussac 75005 PARIS
Rougi & Pl (lot of beautiful paper for artists like elephant
skin, wood like paper,...) : 13-15 bd des Filles du Calvaire
75003 Paris 01.44.54.81.00

If you go in Toulouse one day, just contact me.

> 'papier pour le pliage'

Ok !

> 'libre pour le pliage'.

Near, it's 'livre'

> My wife

Ah les femmes !!!

Origamicalement
Vincent

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From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 17:25
Subject: Fold a day Monkey.

If you bought that "Fold a day" desk calendar, I'm sure you know today's
fold is "Monkey Climbs the Mountain".  Well I can't get the monkey to
climb.  No matter what I do he just stays in one place.

It wouldn't be so bad, but...  Well, I have to admit it, I have a phobia
about cutting the paper while folding.  No, it's not that I'm a purist.
I have no problem with glue.  If something won't stay in place, I have
no problem whipping out the Elmer's out and gluing that sucker
permanently in place.  But cutting.  Ooooh, it make my skin crawl.  I
can't do it!  Fortunately, there are very few models with cuts I even
like.  About the only exception I can think of is that Samurai Goldfish
thing.  You know, where you convert the Samurai helmet into a gold
fish.  And even then I usually end up skipping the two cuts and changing
that last outside reverse fold, so that the little fishy ends up with a
blunted bottom, and only half a tail!

So when I saw today's fold, I almost didn't do it.  But it looks so
cool.  The monkey climbs up the mountain and pops out the top.  So I
decided to make an exception and do it.  So I made the preliminary
base.  Sat there, stared at it, and build up my resolve.  Finally, I put
it down, and dug up my dusty pair of scissors.  I held the model in one
hand and the scissors in the other hand and agonized.  Cold sweat poured
from my brow, as I held the open shears poised just below the tip of the
paper, ready to close.  I sat there for what seemed an eternity, staring
at the gaping jaws, ready to sever the pristine paper.  Finally, I took
a deep breath, screw up my resolve and closed the steel device.  Snap!
The foul deep was completed and the newly formed water bomb base
fluttered to the floor.  After mourning the small hole that had formed
in my paper for a moment, I completed the last two folds, picked up the
"monkey" and placed it between the two triangular legs of the model.

With a sigh of mental exhaustion, I pull the two flaps up and down.  But
the monkey wouldn't climb.  He just clung to the left side, mocking my
efforts.  Finally, I started shifting the two legs back and forth,
attempting to alternate the tension on both sides of the minimalistic
simian.  At last my efforts seem to be baring fruit.  The monkey took
two steps upward.  Encouraged I tried a third but the monkey let go and
slid down the paper, resting on my thumb.  In my mind I could hear him
chattering hysterically in derisive laughter.

Aaaarrrgghhh!!!  What am I doing wrong?  Has any one been able to get
this thing to work?  Is there some kind of trick?  This is driving me
nuts.  I swear that if I can't get this to function, I'm gonna spank
that....   Um, Er, I mean I'm gonna rip the whole thing to shreds!!!!

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 17:45
Subject: Me on TV

For anyone who might even be remotely interested, there will be a TV
interview of me on the new show "Lotusland". This is a production of the CBC
(Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) Vancouver office, and features arts in
Vancouver (with a strong Asian slant). The show premiered last Saturday, and
the next episode (with my segment) will air on Saturday, Feb. 26, at 10:30
p.m. on CBC. I don't know if it will be broadcast across Canada or only in
British Columbia.

To anyone who has been trying to reach me lately, apologies all. I've been
down with a rather nasty flu for the past week, and have been trying to play
catch up ever since.
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From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 18:28
Subject: Re: Fold a day Monkey.

Kim,

This model works by friction and I think the calendar page is too slippery. Use
paper- the rougher the better.

>I pull the two flaps up and down.  But
> the monkey wouldn't climb.  He just clung to the left side, mocking my
> efforts.  Finally, I started shifting the two legs back and forth,
> attempting to alternate the tension on both sides of the minimalistic
> simian.  At last my efforts seem to be baring fruit.  The monkey took
> two steps upward.  Encouraged I tried a third but the monkey let go and
> slid down the paper, resting on my thumb.  In my mind I could hear him
> chattering hysterically in derisive laughter.
>
> Aaaarrrgghhh!!!  What am I doing wrong?  Has any one been able to get
> this thing to work?  Is there some kind of trick?  This is driving me
> nuts.  I swear that if I can't get this to function, I'm gonna spank
> that....   Um, Er, I mean I'm gonna rip the whole thing to shreds!!!!
>
> --
> Kim Best                            *******************************
>                                     *          Origamist:         *
> Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
> 420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
> Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************
>
>

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 20:03
Subject: Re: What is a Pajarita ?

I take Spanish at school and the last chapter I was on had the word pajarito
in it. Pajarito is a small male bird.  Is pajarita a small female bird?

>From: Vincent & Veronique <osele@NETCOURRIER.COM>
>Reply-To: osele@netcourrier.com
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: What is a Pajarita ?
>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:55:34 +0100
>
>Hello,
>
> > Well according to my Spanish/English dictionary a pajarita is "a
> > small bird especially one folded from paper." I thought it looked
> > like a parrot....maybe it's open to interpretation.
>
>In France, it's a bird too, but near the cheaken.
>In French, we call this "une cocotte en papier".
>It's well knowed here because this fold is associated with the lack
>of
>work of Civil Service (civil administration) : when they have nothing
>to do (that hapend lot of time say the legend...) they fold some
>"cocotte" !
>
>Origamicalement
>Vincent
>
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From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 23 Feb 2000 00:32
Subject: butterfly ball revisited

I finally folded one of these models over the weekend, getting a little
help from the new book "Origamido" by Michael LaFosse. Are there
instructions? I hear you ask. No, but the description of the units and the
photo of the finished product were more than enough information to put one
of these together.

I hope to use the same technique to decipher the five intersecting
tetrahedra next weekend :-}.

regards

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