




From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 17:52
Subject: rediagrammed

Hi folks!

If any one is interested I just finish rediagramming the Klingon
D-7 cruiser dollar fold, named correctly this time around!  I
just put it on the web page just below the Enterpri$e dollar
fold.  The diagrams aren't significantly better, but they are
clearer and should print out a little nicer.

Perry
--
"Hope is a little thing
with feathers
perched in the soul all day,
it does it's little business
and then it flies away!"

Victor Buono from "It could be verse"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!
Icq 23622644





From: "Dragonia Radar Freedom, C.S." <modonnel@JETSTREAM.NET>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 19:13
Subject: Re: Used books (was Jay Ansill  "Mythical Beings" available

This is excellent.  Thanks!

Jeff Kerwood wrote:

> > I don't know about anyone else, but I've always had excellent luck using
> > All Book Exchange for finding out of print books...
> >
> > http://whipper.abebooks.com/
> >
> > Note: there's 3 copies of Mythical Beings available through these guys,
>
> Thanks. Wish they woulda had em when I was looking for this book a year ago
> (I spent months trying to track down just one copy of it <humph>). Anyway,
> when I was trying to find a copy I found a few other good places to look for
> out of print books. Thought they might be of interest.
>
> http://www.dealpilot.com/
> http://alldirect.com/
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/subst/home/home.html/002-0478104-9705807
> http://www.bibliocity.com/
> http://www.bibliofind.com/
> http://www.interloc.com/
> http://www.mxbf.com/
> http://www.powells.com/
> http://www.abebooks.com/home/SALAMANDER/
> http://www.shopping.com/ibuy/
>
> Sorte boa e muita felicidade,
> Jeff.





From: Stephen Tran <stephogami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 20:02
Subject: Valentine's Day!

Hi everyone, for Special Valentine's Day,

I taught a group of Elementary School Children how to fold "Florence
Tempko's Heart."  It was simple, sweet and great to put an I Love You
Message for Mom and Dad...

Stephen

"The Individual is more important than any styles, systems or organization."

Subject: Re: Happy Valentine's Day!

Happy Valentine's Day to everyone on the list!

What did we all do Origami-wise for Valentine's Day?  I was up at 1:00 am
folding hearts to go in a card for my sweetie.  Not my idea of a challenging
folding project - but hey, we do what we have to do in this life!

from lucijay@work.today
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From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 21:30
Subject: Valentine Encore

Thank you, Elsje, for contributing your whimsical 21 Hearts Double to my
Valentine column, and to Leigh Halford for creating the groovy animated
crane icon.

http://www.net4tv.com/voice/story.cfm?storyid=1952

Dorothy, the Origami Swami





From: Jonathan Baxter <jbax@MINDSPRING.COM>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 23:15
Subject: Southeast Origami Festival - New Update

I have received inquiries about when visitors should expect updates to the
festival website  At present our intentions are to add the latest news about
the festival  on a monthly basis.  January visitors may like to return and
see the new additions especially to find out the first of our special
guests.  For those of you who saved our site to your favorites you may have
to refresh, or reload some of the SEOF pages, if browser is not set to do it
automatically.

    For those of you yet to visit, go click on
southeastorigami.home.mindspring.com and stay tuned.

Enjoy,

Jonathan Baxter





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 05:15
Subject: Smith's conjecture

Ahem ... thinking about this again my counter example is incorrect.

In flattening the waterbomb and the preliminary fold down some of the
creases are straightened out. Since these are different creases in each case
....

So the conjecture - as modified by the proviso that all the creases must
remain either valleys or mountains - which was inherent in John's conjecture
initially even if not specifically stated - stands.

Unless you know otherwise, of course.

Dave Mitchell





From: Manuel Nuno Alcada <nunoalca@MED.UP.PT>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 06:24
Subject: (NO) Save the rain forest

  I invite you to join a unique and philanthropic endeavor to save
  precious rain forest land!

  Rain forests produce 50% of the oxygen we breathe. Two acres,
  equivalent in size to two football fields, of rain forest are
  destroyed every second. To help preserve the rain forest and make the
  planet a healthier place for all of us, simply visit Care2.com's Race
  for the Rain Forest site and click on the "Save the Rain Forest"
  button:

    http://rainforest.care2.com/front.html/7730d1620ebab18d

  Each click generates a donation, paid by advertising sponsors, to The
  Nature Conservancy's Adopt An Acre program.

  Thank you for your support!

  The Race for the Rain Forest is hosted by Care2.com
  (http://www.care2.com), homebase for people who care about the
  environment.





From: THOKI YENN <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 08:03
Subject: Miniatures

Dear all minia-tourister

If you want to see some very good miniatures
go directly to Tommy Stevens' Gallery 4
http://www.members.home.net/tomkat2/origami/gallery4.html

he has some beautiful photos
of some of the models of Thoki Yenn
but in miniature.

They are worth looking at and the diagrammes
are in the Clouds of Thoki Yenn.

http://www.thok.dk/origami.html
Have fun all you nimble finger people

greetings

The Great and Glorious Kalmon of the North.





From: Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@EIEE.UNIVALLE.EDU.CO>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 08:15
Subject: Re: Miniatures

Hello.
Speaking about miniatures, there is a Dominican Republic lady, Isi
Esteva, who has a very interesting technique.
Her work is to fold very tiny models (most of them traditional models) and
make some compositions inside glass bottles. She was in our last
convention in Colombia and you can see her work in the page
http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/encuentros/fotos1999.html

Good luck,

     Jos Tomas Buitrago Molina M.Sc.
     buitrago@eiee.univalle.edu.co
     http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago

     "Origami y Robtica"





From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 09:30
Subject: Chinese origami books!

Hej!

I have 3 Chinese origamibooks that I'd like to know the author of!
One is only about hearts, one is only about envelopes and one is only about
boxes where the lid is made from 1 piece of paper and the buttom is made from
1 piece of paper!
I have scanned the covers so I hope you can read there who the author is..
Since we can't send attachments to the mailinglist (I think) you'll have to
mail me and ask for the pics.
Hope to hear from you soon!
                                 Anine

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From: Dennis Cuy <astra01@HOME.COM>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 09:38
Subject: Re: kawasaki new-rose

Zach,

I was recently stumped on this part as well...Mark Plant gave me some
pointers here on the list.  Did you see them?  I've repeated it below in
case you didn't.

Mark Plant wrote:
>This is by far (IMHO) the toughest part of the model !!
>
>Diagram 21 is what the model looks like from above - the flaps just
>wrap over each other, folding back on themselves at the diagonal line
>shown in diagram 20. The top edge of each flap is the mountain fold running
>from the centre
>of the model to the outer edge formed when you did the twist in sets 18 and
>19. The little
>square is inside the top of the resulting cylinder, closing off the top. The
>top edge of each
>flap kinda spirals off the centre of the little square.
>
>Step 22 is looking into the cylinder from the bottom. The little square
>shown in
>the diagram is at the other end of the cylinder.

Good luck,
Dennis





From: Rob Hudson <FashFold@AOL.COM>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 09:47
Subject: Jay Ansill's Mythical Beings

Oh, come on Jay!

We know you're hoarding a big ol' pile of those Mythical Beings books so you
can drive the prices up!

:)

Rob





From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 10:16
Subject: Re: Smith's conjecture

Having finally caught up with origami-l email...

I feel I should point out that what Dave Mitchell is refering to
as "Smith's Conjecture" is not a conjecture, it's a Theorem.
That is, I believe John Smith was claiming that the "silhouette"
or "outline" of a flat origami model will not change if some of the
creases are changed from mountains to valleys or vice-versa.
This fact was proven, I believe, by Jacques Justin in his
spendid paper "Towards a Mathematical Theory of Origami" in
Origami Science and Art: Proceedings of the Second International
Meeting of Origami Science and Scientific Origami, Koryo Miura ed.,
1997.

(Basically, using his terminology, he argues that the f-net of
a flat origami is independent of the mountain-valley assignment.)

----- Tom "the mind is a terrible thing to paste" Hull
      thull@merrimack.edu





From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 11:26
Subject: About selling rights

Hej!

Often (and today again) when I show the boxes I've folded (from Fuse and Fuse
ripoff books) people say "You could sell them!". I've never considered it
before (my boxes are not perfect yet) but now when I need an income I was
thinking, how are the rights to sell models you've folded from books? Do you
need permission from the author? (probably!!!) and do you need to send him/her
some procent of the income? I hope you know what I mean!
Cause I know you can go to art-stores for example and ask if they wanna sell
some of your stuff for you, so it wouldn't be impossible to sell it.
Anyway, would it be possible for us mere mortals to get in contact with
someone like Fuse and ask for permission?
Just considering it ;)
Hope to hear from you soon!
                                Anine

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From: Jansill@AOL.COM
Date: 16 Feb 2000 16:54
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 15 Feb 2000 to 16 Feb 2000 (#2000-47)

In a message dated 2/16/00 4:01:57 PM, LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU writes:

<< Oh, come on Jay!

We know you're hoarding a big ol' pile of those Mythical Beings books so you
can drive the prices up!
 >>

When my two books were remaindered, HarperCollins was supposed to send me 25
free copies of each book...Not only was I never told they had been
remaindered, (A friend called and said "They have a pile of your books on
sale at Borders...what a bummer that must be!") but when I called and asked
for my 25 copies, my editor said they had all been sold off to the remainder
house, "sorry." When I put up a little fuss, she reminded me that she had
sent me a book she had edited in which I had shown some interest, (Brian
Wilson's autobiography..so I'm a Beach Boys fan..Sue me!) and why couldn't I
just be happy with that? As it is, I have one copy of each book...and those I
actually had to buy from a bookstore in NY State!

What a business!

As ever,

Jay
Jay Ansill
www.fortissimo.org/artists/ansill
"There's no money, in poetry, but there's no poetry in money either" Robert
Graves





From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 17:00
Subject: Re: Chinese origami books!

Hello Anine, I can read Chinese, so if you send me the scanned pictures of
the books maybe I can see who wrote the books.  I also have 3 Chinese
origami books, they are: 1 letters and envelopes, 1 boxes, and 1 cards.

Tiffany

>From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Chinese origami books!
>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:29:11 MET
>
>Hej!
>
>I have 3 Chinese origamibooks that I'd like to know the author of!
>One is only about hearts, one is only about envelopes and one is only about
>boxes where the lid is made from 1 piece of paper and the buttom is made
>from
>1 piece of paper!
>I have scanned the covers so I hope you can read there who the author is..
>Since we can't send attachments to the mailinglist (I think) you'll have to
>mail me and ask for the pics.
>Hope to hear from you soon!
>                                  Anine
>
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From: Jeadams1@AOL.COM
Date: 16 Feb 2000 20:18
Subject: Flying Dragon Diagram are Up!

I've put up an origami web page at
http://members.aol.com/jeadams1/origami.html. I will be populating it with
diagrams of my origami creations. I already have diagrams for a flying dragon
at the site. Hope you enjoy them!

Jim





From: Eric Andersen <ema@NETSPACE.ORG>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 22:32
Subject: Re: Flying Dragon Diagram are Up!

On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 Jeadams1@AOL.COM wrote:

>I've put up an origami web page at
>http://members.aol.com/jeadams1/origami.html. I will be populating it with
>diagrams of my origami creations. I already have diagrams for a flying dragon
>at the site. Hope you enjoy them!

James,
Can we trade links? I'd like to include your page on my Diagrams page at
www.paperfolding.com

-Eric :-P
origami@netspace.org

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From: Zach White <8trak@INDY.NET>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 22:42
Subject: rabbit ear fold?

    i'm trying to do the birdbase chess set from joseph wu's origami page
     diagrams, and on step 5 there's a rabbit ear fold.. the way i understand
     rabbit ear folds, they always fold on 90 degrees, yet in this diagram the
     rabbit ear fold ends up only going





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
Date: 16 Feb 2000 23:54
Subject: Re: rabbit ear fold?

Hare hare now,

This must be the Energizer bunny rabbit and he's running out of steam. His
batteries are almost gone:(

>     i'm trying to do the birdbase chess set from joseph wu's origami =
> page diagrams, and on step 5 there's a rabbit ear fold.. the way i =
> understand rabbit ear folds, they always fold on 90 degrees, yet in this =
> diagram the rabbit ear fold ends up only going 40 degrees or so... how =
> can you do this?

Seriously, as I understand it,  the rabbit ear is referred to when the flap
stands up perpendicular. The edges don't have to match up at 90 degrees.

Sorry for the bad humor, it's getting late...

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 04:32
Subject: Re: (NO) Save the rain forest

----- Original Message -----
From: "Manuel Nuno Alcada" <nunoalca@MED.UP.PT>

>   I invite you to join a unique and philanthropic endeavor to save
>   precious rain forest land!
>
>   The Race for the Rain Forest is hosted by Care2.com
>   (http://www.care2.com), homebase for people who care about the
>   environment.

An excellent sentiment that we who fold should heed, we hold the forest in
our hands when pursue our craft. All the best - c!!!





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 05:40
Subject: Smith's Conjecture

Tom Hull wrote

>(Basically, using his terminology, he argues that the f-net of
>a flat origami is independent of the mountain-valley assignment.)

I thought I understood it before you said this.

Dave Mitchell





From: Jane Dawson <janie@WINTERMUTE.KLUB.ORG>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 08:11
Subject: Hello and a quick question

Hi everyone :)

I'm a newcomer to the list.. I have been interested in origami for as long
as I can remember - I think I first got into it when I was a kid, reading
Rupert the Bear annuals :)  I'm originally from Liverpool, England but am
currently living in Belfast, Northern Ireland...

After a long break I'm finally finding time to get back to origami.  I've
been trying to find websites for UK shops (preferrably including
online ordering!) that sell origami paper but have drawn a blank so far -
can anyone help?  Thanks :)

I'm looking forward to participating as much as possible with this list!

Janie





From: Mark Plant <mplant@UK.ORACLE.COM>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 09:22
Subject: Re: Hello and a quick question

Jane

I am not sure there are any !

I have occasionally found toy or craft shops which have Origami paper hidden
away somewhere in the back of the stock room, but it tends to be of dubious
quality. There is Maxwell's in Mill Hill London (I think that is their
name), but again the paper is not good - poor quality, and NOT square !!

A good alternative to Origami paper is good quality wrapping paper - check
in your local department store or stationers. Ordinary brown wrapping paper
can give good results, and it is fairly cheap too.

I get my proper Origami paper from various online stores:

            Fascinating Folds http://www.fascinatingfolds.com
            Origami Paper       http://www.origamipaper.com/

I am also a member of the British Origami Society
http://www.britishorigami.org.uk. You can get paper from the Supplies
department.

Hope this helps.

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: Jane Dawson <mailto:janie@WINTERMUTE.KLUB.ORG>
To: <mailto:ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 1:02 PM
Subject: Hello and a quick question

> Hi everyone :)
>
> I'm a newcomer to the list.. I have been interested in origami for as long
> as I can remember - I think I first got into it when I was a kid, reading
> Rupert the Bear annuals :)  I'm originally from Liverpool, England but am
> currently living in Belfast, Northern Ireland...
>
> After a long break I'm finally finding time to get back to origami.  I've
> been trying to find websites for UK shops (preferrably including
> online ordering!) that sell origami paper but have drawn a blank so far -
> can anyone help?  Thanks :)
>
> I'm looking forward to participating as much as possible with this list!
>
> Janie





From: Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@EIEE.UNIVALLE.EDU.CO>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 09:27
Subject: Origami Vip - New Book

Hello.
There is a new Spanish book, Origami Vip, by Carlos Gonzalez S.
It has the diagrams to fold ten famous men of the history, HITLER, STALIN,
EINSTEIN, SHAKESPEARE, SAM, HOLMES, VELZQUEZ, WAGNER, CHARLOT, LINCOLN
It has translation to three more languages, English, French and Italian.

You can get it in the site: www.ciedossat.com and if you want to see
pictures go to the page www.publynet.com/aep to the item fotografas
(photos).

You can contact Carlos Gonzlez Santamara to his email
snmadrid@meridian.es

Good luck,

Jos Tomas Buitrago





From: John McKeever <John@IMRNI.COM>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 11:22
Subject: Re: Hello and a quick question

Craftworld in Upper Queen's Street in Belfast has a (currently very small)
     stock of Japanese kami and foil, plus some slightly dodgy stuff (fairly
     ordinary paper cut into 4 inch squares and packed and sold as origami
     paper; not as bad as that ghastly, pla

John

>>> Jane Dawson <janie@WINTERMUTE.KLUB.ORG> 02/17/00 01:02pm >>>
Hi everyone :)

I'm a newcomer to the list.. I have been interested in origami for as long
as I can remember - I think I first got into it when I was a kid, reading
Rupert the Bear annuals :)  I'm originally from Liverpool, England but am
currently living in Belfast, Northern Ireland...

After a long break I'm finally finding time to get back to origami.  I've
been trying to find websites for UK shops (preferrably including
online ordering!) that sell origami paper but have drawn a blank so far -
can anyone help?  Thanks :)

I'm looking forward to participating as much as possible with this list!

Janie





From: Anool <anool@BOM3.VSNL.NET.IN>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 12:38
Subject: Re: Hello and a quick question

Here's a place where you can locate Origami supplies in the UK.

http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj/orisrc.shtml

I could see a pretty long list. A few also have websites where you may be
able to order online.

Best Regards,

Anool : anool@lumetron.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Jane Dawson <janie@WINTERMUTE.KLUB.ORG>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 06:32 PM
Subject: Hello and a quick question

> Hi everyone :)
>
> I'm a newcomer to the list.. I have been interested in origami for as long
> as I can remember - I think I first got into it when I was a kid, reading
> Rupert the Bear annuals :)  I'm originally from Liverpool, England but am
> currently living in Belfast, Northern Ireland...
>
> After a long break I'm finally finding time to get back to origami.  I've
> been trying to find websites for UK shops (preferrably including
> online ordering!) that sell origami paper but have drawn a blank so far -
> can anyone help?  Thanks :)
>
> I'm looking forward to participating as much as possible with this list!
>
> Janie





From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 13:03
Subject: Pinocchio and nice origami vest

Hej!

I found this nice origami vest for sale at ebay and thought some of you might
like it! The URL is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261923488

To Thoki: I don't remember if you already had the Pinocchiobook with your
models on the cover, but there is one for sale at ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=262931466

See ya!
            Anine

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From: "Tam, Aileen" <ATam@HR.UCSF.EDU>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 13:34
Subject: Re: Pinocchio and nice origami vest

-----Original Message-----
From: Anine Cleve [mailto:anine21@USA.NET]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 11:00 AM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Pinocchio and nice origami vest

Hej!

I found this nice origami vest for sale at ebay and thought some of you
might
like it! The URL is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261923488

To Thoki: I don't remember if you already had the Pinocchiobook with your
models on the cover, but there is one for sale at ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=262931466

See ya!
            Anine

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From: Jennifer Campbell <CampbellJ@DFO-MPO.GC.CA>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 14:28
Subject: You know you've gone too far when...

You get honked at to get moving at a green light after you've spent the red
light engrossed in origami!
Anyone else do origami when/where they shouldn't?





From: Rebecca Holt <becky10@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 14:30
Subject: PCOC hotel

Hi all,

Wondering if any women out there who are going to PCOC need
a roommate and have an empty bed at the Cathedral Hill Hotel
during Saturday of the conference.  The conf. price sold out
before the deadline so I missed out.

Thanks!
Becky
Please reply to my address directly.
becky10@ix.netcom.com





From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@KIMSCRANE.COM>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 14:44
Subject: Re: Hello and a quick question

Hello Everyone:
Might I once again tout my own horn.  Please visit my site,
http://www.kimscrane.com for the largest online selection of origami
paper.  Yes, we do ship to the UK and Northern Ireland.
Sincerely,
Kimberly Crane
http://www.kimscrane.com

Jane Dawson wrote:
>
> Hi everyone :)
>
> I'm a newcomer to the list.. I have been interested in origami for as long
> as I can remember - I think I first got into it when I was a kid, reading
> Rupert the Bear annuals :)  I'm originally from Liverpool, England but am
> currently living in Belfast, Northern Ireland...
>
> After a long break I'm finally finding time to get back to origami.  I've
> been trying to find websites for UK shops (preferrably including
> online ordering!) that sell origami paper but have drawn a blank so far -
> can anyone help?  Thanks :)
>
> I'm looking forward to participating as much as possible with this list!
>
> Janie





From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 15:05
Subject: Doing Origami when you shouldn't

I have been known to sit in the back of staff meetings and fold boxes.  If
anyone notices (favorably) I give them the box.

In smaller meetings that are expected to go on a long time I ask ahead of
time if anyone will be offended if I fold - it's a concentration aid, or at
least that's how I market it!

"Peace In Creases"

Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





From: "Kevin A. Hines" <hines@ANDREW.CMU.EDU>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 16:42
Subject: Re: Doing Origami when you shouldn't

Meetings, yes, absolutely. It's actually gotten to the
point that some of my colleagues argue over who gets to sit
at my table...

----------------------
Kevin A. Hines
hines@andrew.cmu.edu





From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 16:44
Subject: Save the rain forest with origami

>From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: (NO) Save the rain forest
>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:27:09 -0800
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Manuel Nuno Alcada" <nunoalca@MED.UP.PT>
>
> >   I invite you to join a unique and philanthropic endeavor to save
> >   precious rain forest land!
> >
> >   The Race for the Rain Forest is hosted by Care2.com
> >   (http://www.care2.com), homebase for people who care about the
> >   environment.
>
>An excellent sentiment that we who fold should heed, we hold the forest in
>our hands when pursue our craft. All the best - c!!!

Does anyone else think it would be interesting to make an origami book of
endangered animals?  Part of the proceeds could even go to an organization
to save the rainforest.

Just a thought
Collin Weber
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From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 16:49
Subject: Re: Save the rain forest with origami

I thought my favorite author, Mr. John Montroll already has something like
this...  Or was it all just a dream???

In case it was in fact a dream - John?  Are you out there?  We've cooked up
another book for you to write!

"Peace In Creases"

Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 17:01
Subject: Re: Hello and a quick question

Hi Janie,

I remember Rupert bear...one of the first things I folded was a set of three
monkeys from a Rupert Bear annual. I think the creator of the early annuals
was a chap called Albert Bestall, someone who knew Robert Harbin, the first
president of the British Origami Society. I'm sure David Lister would be
able to tell you more about it...I think I read it in an Eric Kenneway
book...

Book shops in the UK aren't too good to find origami books. Dillons (or
waterstones as it now is) occasionally do a few Montroll or Lang books. In
London, the Japan Centre bookshop does a few books by Japanese authors ,esp
kasahara. I use amazon.co.uk for all Dover usually deliver within a week,
the latter have taken between 2 weeks and 4 in the past. (Thats to my
addresses both in Reading and Cambridge).

I'm sure other folks on the list can tell you what books they would
recommend,books, which include Montroll and Lang books, and
www.fascinating-folds.com, which do most books on origami that are in print.
Amazon

All the best,

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From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Julia_P=E1lffy?= <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 17:28
Subject: Re: Save the rain forest with origami

If you have a good idea for a good cause, go ahead and do it!
Environmental organisations might be glad to support and market such a
project.

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Zach White <8trak@INDY.NET>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 18:18
Subject: Re: rabbit ear fold?

ok maybe they don't have to go to 90 degrees... but could anyone please
explain to me how to do step 5 of the chess set on joseph wu's diagram
page?? it's never a good sign when upon completion, the next step says
"minor miracle".. thanks





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 18:45
Subject: Re: rabbit ear fold?

Zach White wrote:
>
> but could anyone please
> explain to me how to do step 5 of the chess set on joseph wu's diagram
> page?? it's never a good sign when upon completion, the next step says
> "minor miracle".. thanks

Don't sweat it.  All a minor miracle is, is a book fold in front, and a
book fold, in the opposite direction, in back.  As Jeremy Shaffer once
said it is hardly a major miracle.

Although it's not shown, I believe step 6 is where you twiddle your
thumbs for a while and try to figure out which flap to fold over in step
7.  In this case it is the left flap in front, and the right flap in
back...  I think....

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Kelly Dunn <Kellydunn@AOL.COM>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 21:58
Subject: Re: You know you've gone too far when...

You stop traffic during the morning commute.
You are almost to the toll booth on the Golden Gate Bridge,
during high traffic and all your dollars are folded into hearts,
and tightly locked that way. And, you don't notice until you are
almost there, and you are wondering whether to
give three hearts and explain quickly, or to try
to unfold fast, since you can't turn around on the bridge. Toll stress.
Is it still legal currency if it is folded up?? I'm not sure. It's a problem.
Don't get dreamy and fold ALL your dollars.

Kelly





From: Dan Gries <dangries@MATH.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 22:26
Subject: Re: rabbit ear fold?

ok, help me - i've been doing origami for a long time and i don't
know what a book fold is.  i see it mentioned here frequently.
-dan

>
> ok maybe they don't have to go to 90 degrees... but could anyone please
> explain to me how to do step 5 of the chess set on joseph wu's diagram
> page?? it's never a good sign when upon completion, the next step says
> "minor miracle".. thanks





From: Lumetronics <anool@BOM3.VSNL.NET.IN>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 22:57
Subject: Re: You know you've gone too far when...

Hi,

I don't know about the rest of you folks, but out here in India, if I fold
my local currency into anything other than a book fold, they'll dump me in a
dungeon and chuck the key in the Arabian Sea :-)  Ain't allowed to disfigure
legal tender.

Best Regards,

Anool : anool@lumetron.com

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----- Original Message -----
From: Kelly Dunn <Kellydunn@AOL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: You know you've gone too far when...

> You stop traffic during the morning commute.
> You are almost to the toll booth on the Golden Gate Bridge,
> during high traffic and all your dollars are folded into hearts,
> and tightly locked that way. And, you don't notice until you are
> almost there, and you are wondering whether to
> give three hearts and explain quickly, or to try
> to unfold fast, since you can't turn around on the bridge. Toll stress.
> Is it still legal currency if it is folded up?? I'm not sure. It's a
problem.
> Don't get dreamy and fold ALL your dollars.
>
> Kelly





From: Elaina Quackenbush <elaina_quackenbush@NETZERO.NET>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 23:08
Subject: Re: You know you've gone too far when...

Hmm..I don't know about America, I usually use the "We'll it's over 50%
there, just now it looks cool" thing.  It becomes a problem when you go to
pay for lunch or gas and they look at you like "oh, no.  Not YOU again"

Elaina

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From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 23:10
Subject: Book fold (was Re: rabbit ear fold?)

At 10:24 PM 2/17/00 -0500, Dan Gries <dangries@MATH.OHIO-STATE.EDU> wrote:
>ok, help me - i've been doing origami for a long time and i don't
>know what a book fold is.

This is just another example as to why I hate overly descriptive names for
folds. Anyway, "book fold" refers to a particular instance of a simple
valey fold. If you fold a square in half vertically, you have done a book
fold (it folds as if you have just closed a book  that was opened up). Marc

http://marckrsh.home.pipeline.com





From: Michael Brunelle <Paperflex@AOL.COM>
Date: 17 Feb 2000 23:43
Subject: Re: You know you've gone too far when...

I often fold during my commute to and from work on the interstate. Luckily,
traffic is not heavy. The interesting thing is that I have created several
new models while driving; I think it has something to do with right brain
functioning and spacial relationships. But I don't advise anyone else to do
this, especially if you are driving in Europe!





From: Papa Joe <papajoe@CHORUS.NET>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 00:45
Subject: Re: Miniatures

Look at the link below to see a Pajarita that makes a flea
look like an elephant! (second to last photo)
http://personal.redestb.es/jhoms/eng/lluis/fotografies.htm

Enjoy,  Joe

PS The front door to the site is
 http://personal.redestb.es/jhoms/index.htm





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 08:25
Subject: Re: You know you've gone too far when...

Same situation here, Anool. Anything to do with our shared colonial
past, I wonder ....? :o)

> Anool wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't know about the rest of you folks, but out here in India, if I fold
> my local currency into anything other than a book fold, they'll dump me in a
> dungeon and chuck the key in the Arabian Sea :-)  Ain't allowed to disfigure
> legal tender.
>
> Best Regards,





From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 10:17
Subject: Money Folding

It is my understanding that it's perfectly legal to fold U.S. dollar bills as
much as you like, but cutting them is an offence. Happy Folding from
Florence.





From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@FANTASYFARM.COM>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 11:39
Subject: Re: Money Folding

On 18 Feb 00, at 10:16, Florence Temko wrote:

> It is my understanding that it's perfectly legal to fold U.S. dollar bills as
> much as you like, but cutting them is an offence.

Well, that's a good rule of thumb.  The actual law talks about
multilation with "intent to render such items unfit to be reissued", and
so it is arguable that a snip or even cutting off a corner would be OK
but running the bill through a shredder wouldn't.

>From our friends at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing:

> Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the
> United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally
> defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates,
> unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill,
> draft, note,

  /Bernie\
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From: Alex Barber <barber@ADMIN.CARLBERG.COM>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 12:30
Subject: Re: Money Folding

>On 18 Feb 00, at 10:16, Florence Temko wrote:
>
>>  It is my understanding that it's perfectly legal to fold U.S.
>>dollar bills as
>>  much as you like, but cutting them is an offence.
>
>Well, that's a good rule of thumb.  The actual law talks about
>multilation with "intent to render such items unfit to be reissued", and
>so it is arguable that a snip or even cutting off a corner would be OK
>but running the bill through a shredder wouldn't.
>
>From our friends at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing:
>
>>  Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the
>>  United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally
>>  defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates,
>>  unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill,
>  > draft, note,

But what of the bags of shredded US bills that you can purchase?

Alex Barber
barber@the-village.com | http://www.the-village.com





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 12:40
Subject: Re: Money Folding

>>so it is arguable that a snip or even cutting off a corner would be OK
>>but running the bill through a shredder wouldn't.

>But what of the bags of shredded US bills that you can purchase?

    Depends on who is doing the shredding. I believe the bags of shredded
bills are supplied by the US Treasury itself, made from misprints and used
bills taken out of circulation.

    Of course, you might try shredding your own hard earned cash and selling
it at a profit... good luck!

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@FANTASYFARM.COM>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 12:40
Subject: Re: Money Folding

On 18 Feb 00, at 11:29, Alex Barber wrote:

> >Well, that's a good rule of thumb.  The actual law talks about
> >multilation with "intent to render such items unfit to be reissued", and
> >so it is arguable that a snip or even cutting off a corner would be OK
> >but running the bill through a shredder wouldn't.
>
> But what of the bags of shredded US bills that you can purchase?

I believe that the folks who sell those things have to _get_ the shredded
bills from the Treasury dept [who *do* shred bills, but they're supposed
to be the only folk who do that]

  /Bernie\
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From: "Gary W. Boyd" <mini@VOLSTATE.NET>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 13:23
Subject: Origami Metalworkers

Hello Gentlepeople,

   Thanks to all who wrote to help unite me with folders who use metals in
     their creations.  I am always looking for more, so if anyone knows someone
     who is experimenting, please give them my name.

   I am impressed with this list's fulsome wit, and would like to extend a word
     challenge to all who decide to visit:  http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/te
     xis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?fcode=0015UU

          Gary Boyd
Constructive Alternatives
     mini@volstate.net

Creature Console
http://www.miniaturemonuments.com





From: Kelly Dunn <Kellydunn@AOL.COM>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 13:25
Subject: Re: Money Folding

In a message dated 2/18/00 8:39:22 AM, bernie@FANTASYFARM.COM writes:

<< > Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the
> United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally
> defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates,
> unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill,
> draft, note,
 >>

Okay, okay. One bill, no cutting and NO gluing.
So, this means that there is no need to unfold...right?
Happy folding!!
Kelly





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 13:44
Subject: Re: Money Folding

> > Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the
> > United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is
> > generally
> > defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates,
> > unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill,
> > draft, note,

What, did it say "unites"!!!!  No MODULAR $ models ;-///// YIKES !!!!!!

And I'm not even gonna touch "or does any other thing" (I know some of your
minds and get them out of the gutter ;-)))).

Jeff <all-in-humor-of-course> Kerwood

[ Thoki Yenn and Andrew Hans, better watch out the $ police may be
watching ;-))))  http://www.thok.dk/billumu.html ]





From: Zach White <8trak@INDY.NET>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 14:16
Subject: Re: rabbit ear fold

ok i get what folds are involved, i guess i'm just lost in how to actually
do it =) there are these flaps in front that kind of prevent the miraculous
rabbit ear fold from happening, unless i'm missing something...





From: Richard Kennedy <r.a.kennedy@BHAM.AC.UK>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 14:24
Subject: Re: Template folding

> I first discovered this technique while reproducing Thoki
> Yenn's crossed box-pleat (mentioned on this list a few
> months ago- I forget the address, But I'm sure most of you
> have bookmarked his site by now.) By using a folding
> template, I was able to easily produce tesselations of this
> in large sheets, again, with no superfluous folds.

I've produced tesselations based on the crease patterns generated by
Alex Bateman using something close to the template method you
describe. I like to make my tesselations using translucent paper -
such as kitchen roll or greaseproof paper. This means I can see
through the paper to the crease pattern beneath. With a fine scribing
tool (basically a fine ball pen, with no ink left - mine is sold as
a parchment craft tool), and a ruler, I 'draw' in all the valley
folds, then I turn the paper over, and with the mirror image template,
I 'draw' in all the mountain folds as valleys. Then I can collapse
the tesselation, to produce a final model devoid of unwanted creases.

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





From: I M <eldo1960@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 16:02
Subject: will you go to jail for tearing up currency?

This topic recycles regularly.  The US Treasury Department states that, in
effect, if anyone is foolish enough to mutilate currency so that it is no
longer usable, that is their business.
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From: Rob Moes <robmoes@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 16:02
Subject: tweezers are our friends!

I love folding miniatures which end up about 1 inch in finished size--I
think I've tackled just about every model of 30 steps or less.   :)

Now don't throw stones:  there is method to my madness....

I have a trusty pair of needle-nose tweezers that I take everywhere.  These
are stainless steel and very sharp (I stick the sharp tips inside a piece
of cork for protection).  Even if I don't end up using the tweezers, I find
myself more and more willing to tackle very difficult models in miniature
just by virtue of having the tweezers in my pocket.  And quite honestly it
adds new challenge in re-making perennial favorites from your collection,
only smaller and smaller.

I have made the Maekawa devil out of 3-inch foil paper.  Pleated and
crimped folds, like the nose and the fingers are actually quite possible
with these tweezers, and simply death-defying otherwise.

Icarus from _Mythical Beings_ came out beautifully--the crimped wings are
vital to the success of this model at any scale.  If you can fold this one
out of 3-inch paper with your fingers alone, you have the patience of a
saint.

Other tweezer favorites include Peter Engel's giraffe (with the very narrow
points), Pat Crawford's swan (neck crimps and wing pleats) and John
Montroll's peacock (tail-feather pleats).  The ultra-fine details afforded
by the tweezers make all the difference when you are crafting little
origami *jewels* like these.

Happy tweezing...
Rob





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 16:07
Subject: Speaking of Money Fold

I receive my copy of Tanteidan 59 a couple of days ago.  Look at the
diagram for Kawahata's Dragon's head I noticed that the dimensions of
the initial rectangle of paper looked very close to that of a dollar
bill. So I decided to check out how close and discovered that it was
precisely that of a dollar!  (I suppose that if I could read Japanese,
or paid more attention to some of the posts on Origami-L I would have
known that already.)

But at any rate, the dragon's head, makes a really impressive looking
money fold.  It's not as hard as it looks.  There are no really
difficult folds, and the only real problem I had was the fact that the
folds gets kind of bulky.  But the finished model looks simply amazing.

And far as mutilating goes.  I think folding the bill actually increased
the value.  So there!

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Gillian Wiseman <gilladian@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 16:41
Subject: Re: Money Folding

It is my understanding (no source to cite) that while it is legal to fold
paper money, it would be illegal to "alter" it in any way - the same is true
with coins. However - it IS legal to, for example, make a coin into a
souvenier - as long as what is done to the coin makes it "more valuable"
than it would be as "just money".

If this holds true for coins (like smashing a penny in a machine at an
amusement park so it bears the park's logo) why wouldn't it be true of
bills - don't you think folding (even cutting) a dollar makes it worth more
than just a dollar, if the end result is beautiful?

Just my 2 cents ;-)

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From: Gillian Wiseman <gilladian@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 16:43
Subject: Re: Money Folding

Bags of shredded bills are sold by the Treasury or the Mint or somebody
official. They shred used-up money, not good money still in circulation!

Gillian
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From: Papa Joe <papajoe@CHORUS.NET>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 17:33
Subject: Re: Money Folding

> Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the
> United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is
> generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures,
> perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to
> any bank bill, draft, note,

The above statement is true ONLY if you were just trying to damage
currency or coins and then spend them.
(intent to render such items unfit to be reissued)

> The US Treasury Department states that, in effect, if anyone is
> foolish enough to mutilate currency so that it is no longer usable,
> that is their business.

Once again "so that it is no longer usable" (as legal tender)

What they do not tell you is,

It is perfectly legal cut, burn, shread, glue, or do whatever to money!
This is called "Changing it for use as a different purpose".
It all legally hinges on what your intentions are.
(I had a heck of a time finding this out)

I used to make jewelry from cut coins and did a lot of research on it.
>From what Bureau of Engraving and Printing told me it is legal to do
anything you want to coins and curency,

AS LONG AS IT WILL NOT BE USED AS LEGAL TENDER AGAIN!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------

This is called  "Changing it for use as a different purpose".
In other words cutting coins for jewelry is fine because you are
"Changing it for use as a different purpose".  Remember years
ago when you could buy Levis vest's with Buffalo nickels for buttons.
The same holds true for dollars.  You can do anything you want to
dollars as long as you do not plan to ever use them as legle tender
again.

As for folding I do not think you have to worry because you are not
destroying the bill or defaceing it in any way.
And if push came to shove you could always say you are
"Changing it for use as a different purpose"  Art.

Papa ( Hey!??  What's with the handcuffs?!?!   It's a Frog!! ) Joe





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 17:39
Subject: Bidding deadline February 28th

Hi all,

Thanks to the passion for origami and generosity of people on this list,
The travel fund in honor of Paul Krueger has $200 so far.

Bidding has been brisk on "Papiroflexia" with $50 as the top bid.

I have no bids yet for the Ansill Books, "Mythical Beings? and "LIfestyle
Origami" There seem to be a few of them floating around on the auction lists
and Montroll's "Fun with Bird Origami. I'll try the on line auctions if I don't
get any reasonable offers.

New additions thanks to Glenn McNitt

   "Modern Origami" by Sakoda and John Montroll's Prehisoric origami book

Since these are still available in print, I'll accept any reasonable offer -
you pay the postage.

Also, I have a new boxed Origami Page-a-Day Calendar 2000

Thanks to those who have bid and to those offering more books:)

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Alan Shutko <ats@ACM.ORG>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 17:45
Subject: Re: Money Folding

Gillian Wiseman <gilladian@HOTMAIL.COM> writes:

> However - it IS legal to, for example, make a coin into a souvenier
> - as long as what is done to the coin makes it "more valuable" than
> it would be as "just money".

According to http://www.treas.gov/opc/opc0033.html#mutilated, the
specific wording is "fraudulently ...."  Smashing a penny to make a
souvenir isn't fraudulent.

> If this holds true for coins (like smashing a penny in a machine at an
> amusement park so it bears the park's logo) why wouldn't it be true of
> bills - don't you think folding (even cutting) a dollar makes it worth more
> than just a dollar, if the end result is beautiful?

The law doesn't usually follow common sense.  Coins are US Code 18,
section 331, bills are section 333.  However, in this case, a full
reading of section 333 includes the text "with intent to render such
bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt unfit to be
reissued".  Origami normally doesn't include such intent.

(BTW: I am not a lawyer.)

--
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266 days, 17 hours, 30 minutes, 20 till we run away.
Promise her anything, but give her Exxon unleaded.





From: "Melissa D. Johnson" <johnsonm@ACU.EDU>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 18:01
Subject: Updated Web Site - New URL

I have re-designed and edited my Origami Web Site. Here is the new and
permanent URL:

http://melissadawn.johnson.org/origami.html

Please let me know if I need to change, add, or delete anything.

Also, one of my friends mentioned to me while looking at one of the
links on my site that Houdini folded himself. Would that be another
material to add to the list?? Human beings.

Melissa Dawn :)
http://MelissaDawn.Johnson.org/

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From: Garrett Alley <garrett@VIADOR.COM>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 18:06
Subject: Yet Another Transparent Paper Question

Hello,

An office-mate of mine just received a fancy package from United airlines
     (because he's now a 'Gold' or 'Platinum' member) and enclosed was a
     brochure. The brochure's cover is a transparent/translucent blue paper
     that seems a tad stiff, but it holds a cre

Thanks,

-g-





From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 21:14
Subject: Money Folding

Re the regulations using coins to make them more valuable: I am often offered
a dollar for a ring folded from a dollar bill. I usually say I will take $2
and that I will
contribute the extra dollar to a charity. I want people to appreciate the
skill involved in enhancing the dollar, not for my own sake,  but for all the
artisans and artists laboring out there.  Many times the offer is accepted,
but it's amazing how many people will back off.  Has anyone else had similar
experiences? Best from Florence.





From: Mike Kanarek <kanarekorigami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 18 Feb 2000 21:27
Subject: Re: Money Folding

I have had the very same reaction.I also donate profit to a worthy cause.
I love to fold money and charge according to difficulty, usually 2-5
dollars.
Most people back down.
               Mike
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From: Howard Portugal <howardpo@MICROSOFT.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 00:26
Subject: Re: Doing Origami when you shouldn't

Meetings are great, especially for modulars!

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin A. Hines [mailto:hines@ANDREW.CMU.EDU]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 1:59 PM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Doing Origami when you shouldn't

Meetings, yes, absolutely. It's actually gotten to the
point that some of my colleagues argue over who gets to sit
at my table...

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Kevin A. Hines
hines@andrew.cmu.edu





From: I-Jeih Chang <ijeihchang@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 01:13
Subject: Spring

Hi everybody,

I'm trying to fold the spring at
http://reality.sgi.com/grafica/fiatlux/spring.html and I can't get
past the first layer.  How does the second layer of the spring go?
Does it twist into something?  And does it turn inside out? Can
anybody help me?  Thanks.

I-Jeih Chang
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From: Michael Antonette <mylor@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 04:13
Subject: Re: Bidding deadline February 28th

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rachel Katz" <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: February 18, 2000 9:34 AM
Subject: Bidding deadline February 28th

> Hi all,
>
> Thanks to the passion for origami and generosity of people on this list,
> The travel fund in honor of Paul Krueger has $200 so far.
> I have no bids yet for the Ansill Books, "Mythical Beings? and "LIfestyle
> Origami"

   How about $25 each?

                                                   Michael





From: "K. A. Lundberg" <klundber@MNSINC.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 06:28
Subject: Admin questions

It has been a while since I joined this list, so before I add the link to
it, I have a few questions.

Is there a page out there that gives a brief or not so brief overview of the
list that details things like the number of members, the average number of
messages generated, etc?  When someone signs on to the list do they receive
a message warning that this is a high-volume list and asking for a
confirmation before their membership is activated?

Kalei





From: Gillian Wiseman <gilladian@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 19 Feb 2000 11:48
Subject: Re: Yet Another Transparent Paper Question

Garrett,
Sounds like this might be a type of vellum? Try looking in a catalog from an
office paper supplier, such as Paperdirect. They sell a paper that is a
heavy vellum-like semitranslucent "report cover" that might be what you saw.
Hope this helps!

Gillian

>From: Garrett Alley <garrett@VIADOR.COM>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Yet Another Transparent Paper Question
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:06:04 -0800
>
>Hello,
>
>An office-mate of mine just received a fancy package from United airlines
>(because he's now a 'Gold' or 'Platinum' member) and enclosed was a
>brochure. The brochure's cover is a transparent/translucent blue paper that
>seems a tad stiff, but it holds a crease well enough. This is some great
>paper, and I was wondering if anyone on the list knows the name of the
>paper (to make my search for a supply that much easier).
>
>Thanks,
>
>-g-

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