




From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: 12 Feb 2000 23:02
Subject: Re: Chinese Origami diagrams

I would suggest you contact designer
Janson Chow jcychow@hkstar.com or chairman dvcwchan@netvigator.com directly.
I don't think the diagram is on the web. Emails can be found in their web
pages.

Sy Chen

-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:02:26 -0500
Subject: Chinese Origami diagrams

>Hello,
>
>I've just discovered the Chinese (HK) Origami Society homepage and really
>liked the models I saw there. In particular, I'd like to know whether there
>is any possibility of obtaining the diagrams for the Chinese teapot and
>teacups I saw in the section Diagrams 1998? There was no .pdf logo in the
>corresponding box, and all I see instead of (presumably) the Chinese script
>are little squares, so I don't know what the text says...
>
>Thanks in advance for any info!
>
>All the best,
>
>Julia Palffy
>Zug, Switzerland
>jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 12 Feb 2000 23:04
Subject: Re: Origami in Fine Art.

There is a government building in Quebec city that has a series of three
sculptures of a cat in the process of jumping up onto a wall, that are based
upon origami cat forms. My two cents...All the best - c!!!





From: David Taylor <dataylor@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 12 Feb 2000 23:38
Subject: Re: Origami in Art--no, make that linguistics research.

An article I read recently about love games children play in preschool
(nothing unsavory, just conventional teasing & puppylove) mentioned the
cootie-catcher in two places.
--Elise

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
(Jim Elliot)





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 13 Feb 2000 00:29
Subject: Re: Chinese Origami diagrams

What is the way to get to the Chinese Origami home page...Does anyone
know....I'm dying to try the methods of the folding projects that the Chinese
prisoners worked on .  I think this started with a swan and a pineapple that
the Chinese originally invented.....I learned the units but have forgotten
and never did learn how to put them together.....Lets get going and see if we
can find out and teach each other how to do this... Dorigami





From: "Gary W. Boyd" <mini@VOLSTATE.NET>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 00:29
Subject: Origami Materials

   Hello,

   I wonder if anyone has tried using lac flakes?  These beetle wings are the
     basis for shellac, and should therefore actually be their own protective
     coating.  Also, does anyone know the name/address of any folders using
     sheet metal?

   Thank you,

          Gary Boyd
Constructive Alternatives
     mini@volstate.net

Creature Console
http://www.miniaturemonuments.com





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 00:40
Subject: Re: Chinese Origami diagrams

The Chinese (Hong Kong) Origami Society:

http://www.ap.net.hk/~cos/

Chinese modular paperfolds:

http://www.westworld.com/~nienhuis/chinese.html

Dorothy





From: Alan Shutko <ats@ACM.ORG>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 00:42
Subject: Re: Miniatures!

Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM> writes:

> I've matched your 20mm without tools, but I think that if I'm going to try
> for smaller I'll have to purchase a pair of tweezers...

I routinely do cranes from 1cm squares, but I do use tweezers.  (I'm
getting used to the ones on my micra.)  I don't precrease the model,
but I do run the tweezer tips along folds I need to do.  Since they're
usually angle bisectors, they're easy enough.  With flat-edges
tweezers, the easiest thing is to put the tweezers perpendicular to
fold and bring the paper over.

I used to do traditional frogs out of a half inch square (enough
larger than 1cm to make a difference) but I can't do them with my
micra.  I normally use cosmetic tweezers (with a point, not the
flat-edged ones) for them.

--
Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> - In a variety of flavors!
Seeing is believing.  You wouldn't have seen it if you hadn't believed it.





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 13 Feb 2000 00:42
Subject: Re: New BOS website & CD rom

In a message dated 2/11/00 6:49:25 PM, nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK writes:

<< www.britishorigami.org.uk >>

This url did not work.  What suggestions do you have...Dorigami





From: Rick Roos <aolos2@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 01:38
Subject: Re: New BOS website & CD rom

At 12:40 AM 2/13/00 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 2/11/00 6:49:25 PM, nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK writes:
>
><< www.britishorigami.org.uk >>
>
>This url did not work.  What suggestions do you have...Dorigami
>

The url i used is the same as above with a forward slash at the end. This
should work...http://www.britishorigami.org.uk/
regards,

aolos2@ix.netcom.com
rick roos





From: Martin Liu <liumcn@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 03:05
Subject: NO:Chinese Dumplings

hi
noted

> Date:    Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:41:29 -0800
> From:    Joseph Wu
> Subject: NO: Chinese dumplings (was Re: Fold Your Arms...Part One)
>
> I thought I'd chime in on this one since I often brag about Vancouver having
> the best Chinese food outside of Asia...
>
Try Melbourne Australia
Martin Liu





From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Julia_P=E1lffy?= <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 04:20
Subject: Re: Chinese Origami diagrams

In response to one of my last postings, Dee Lynch wrote:

> I've just discovered the Chinese (HK) Origami Society homepage and really
liked the models I saw there.

What is the URL?

Answer: the URL is http://www.ap.net.hk/~cos/index.htm

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 13 Feb 2000 04:52
Subject: Re: Origami in Fine Art.

Yesterday the Great and Glorious Kalmon of the North inscribed under the
heading "Origami in fine Art" the following pronouncement:

"There is a Kalmon holding a flapping bird on http://www.thok.dk
Drawn by the Danish artist Thoki Yenn in 1986, scanned in 1997,
background made transparent and provided with colours by
Nick Robinson of England in 1998."

I crave in all humility to be permitted to reply:

O Great and Glorious Kalmon of the North,

I offer you grateful thanks for your posting to Origami-L advising of the
grand drawing of yourself holding a flapping bird executed by the Danish
Grand-Master Artist, Thoki Yenn.

With great trepidation I have to declare that in my faltering researches I
was concerned merely with Origami in Fine Art. The work of the genius, Thoki
Yenn is SUPER FINE ART and therefore quite beyond my humble province. It
could only be recorded by a greater genius than that of your faltering
correspondent.

With obeisant origamations from

David Lister.





From: Anool <anool@BOM3.VSNL.NET.IN>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 05:28
Subject: Re: Miniature Update!

Hi,

Guess Dave got the trick. You got to precrease all the folds first. Also,
I'm glad that I didn't have to use any tools at all. Just my fingers and
nails :-)

Regards,

Anool : anool@lumetron.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 03:34 AM
Subject: Re: Miniature Update!

> >> Okay, just did another crane with 30mm square.
>
> Well, you've got me at it now. I've managed to fold one from a square
25mm,
> if you precrease everything first you can manage it with your fingers.
>
> Dave





From: Anool <anool@BOM3.VSNL.NET.IN>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 05:31
Subject: Re: Miniatures!

Hi all,

And my apologies if I've started everyone on a miniature spree. It all
started while waiting for a friend with nothing to do. Digging my pockets, I
located an old bus ticket which seemed ideal for a bird.

Regards,

Anool : anool@lumetron.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Lucille Jacobson <lucijay@HOME.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 04:36 AM
Subject: Miniatures!

> Hi, Hi!
>
> I have this mental image of people all over the world sitting folding
> itty bitty pieces of paper!
>
> I have gone down to 20mm ......and that's IT until I learn how to
> precrease.  Help! Dave?
>
> Yes, Melissa Dawn, it counts in my book.  Shouldn't we all be doing
> other things today, but where is the fun in that?
>
> Greetings from lucijay in Beautiful British Columbia!
>
> http://members.home.net/lucijay/





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 05:58
Subject: Re: Miniatures!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anool" <anool@BOM3.VSNL.NET.IN>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: Miniatures!

> Hi all,
>
> And my apologies if I've started everyone on a miniature spree. It all
> started while waiting for a friend with nothing to do. Digging my pockets,
I
> located an old bus ticket which seemed ideal for a bird.

For a while I got in the habit of carrying around small (not tiny) squares,
and practiced folding flapping birds and cranes one-handed. At one point I
was standing in a rain storm waiting for a friend trying to do a flapping
bird in each hand inside my coat pockets. Neat diversion for the psychos out
there. All the best - c!!!





From: Anool <anool@BOM3.VSNL.NET.IN>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 06:14
Subject: Re: Miniature Update!

The URL I provided in my previous mails doesn't work. Here's a fresh link
that will:

http://www.geocities.com/lumetronics/origami.htm

Regards,

Anool : anool@lumetron.com





From: Paul Jackson <Mpjackson@BTINTERNET.COM>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 07:10
Subject: My New Web Site

Dear All,

After many trials and tribulations, I've finally become the proud
father of a bouncing new web site, born this morning, weighing 4.14mb!
:-)

www.origami-artist.com

A couple of List members have helped me greatly with this project
(they know who they are!), and I'd like to thank them for their
invaluable assistance.

It still has a few small bugs and needs tweaking here and there, but
seems to be working pretty much OK.  I'd be interested to hear your
comments and constructive suggestions.

I'd be obliged if those List members with their own sites would
consider adding me to their links.  Thank you.  I confess I'm not much
of a surfer, so if you think your own site should be on my own links
page, please tell me.

Paul Jackson





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 10:45
Subject: Re: Used books (was Jay Ansill  "Mythical Beings" available from

> I don't know about anyone else, but I've always had excellent luck using
> All Book Exchange for finding out of print books...
>
> http://whipper.abebooks.com/
>
> Note: there's 3 copies of Mythical Beings available through these guys,

Thanks. Wish they woulda had em when I was looking for this book a year ago
(I spent months trying to track down just one copy of it <humph>). Anyway,
when I was trying to find a copy I found a few other good places to look for
out of print books. Thought they might be of interest.

http://www.dealpilot.com/
http://alldirect.com/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/subst/home/home.html/002-0478104-9705807
http://www.bibliocity.com/
http://www.bibliofind.com/
http://www.interloc.com/
http://www.mxbf.com/
http://www.powells.com/
http://www.abebooks.com/home/SALAMANDER/
http://www.shopping.com/ibuy/

Sorte boa e muita felicidade,
Jeff.





From: THOKI YENN <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 10:49
Subject: Sv:      My New Web Site

Dear Paul Jackson

I find your Web site very impressive and
I like the simple but very effective and beautiful layout.

The pictures of your achivements are very good.

I will add your URL to my Origami Cloud.

Greetings from

The great and Glorious Kalmon of the North
PR.man for the old Geezer Thok 00





From: Paula Versnick <su008787@WOLMAIL.NL>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 11:41
Subject: Re: Miniature Origami

Hi All,

Last year I have been to a museum in Harma on the island Lanzarote (one of
the Canary Islands, Spain). It's called "Museo de Miniaturas". There was
also a very little origami-piece, a pajarita.
I have tried also to fold a very little pajarita. I can't remember anymore
how big my paper was, but the result is 4x4mm and it looks very much like a
pajarita.

Greetings,
Paula from Holland





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 13:21
Subject: Re: New BOS website & CD rom

DORIGAMI@AOL.COM sez

><< www.britishorigami.org.uk >>
>
>This url did not work.  What suggestions do you have...Dorigami

Depends which browser you have - this works on NS4 and IE5 - try adding
http:// in front...

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    www.britishorigami.org.uk





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 14:07
Subject: Bidding Deadline

My initial success (I have $150 in the fund) has prompted me to continue
offering duplicate books for sale.

Thanks to the generosity of Doug Phillips, 2 more books have been donated to
the travel fund (In honor of Paul Krueger) to bring The Shumakovs to the OUSA
convention. I am offering the following books for sale. If I don't get a
reasonable offer by  February 28th, I will put them on Ebay. By the way, Jay
Ansill's Mythical Beings showed up on

http://whipper.abebooks.com/

for $35, $37.50 and $49.95

I'm not expecting anything near that from this list.

Pat Sisler's contributions are also still available. They include:
+Montroll's Birds in Origami with paper

+Papiroflexia con el Papel by Arreclea and Salinas
The latter sold originally for $33.50 and is a large paper back in Spanish. It
contains work from 15 contributors and ranges from
simple-12 models including a nice car to 5 complex models including a Centaur.
There are 27 Intermediate models.

Any more contributions will be happily accepted:)

Please send offers to me privately.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Ross Cooper <Zxenor@AOL.COM>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 14:19
Subject: Kawasaki Krazy

alright...one LAST thing.

I have tried desperately to fold the legendary Kawasaki (new) rose diagrammed
off of the internet for about 4 or 5 months now.  This is my final attempt to
fold the rose.  I am stuck at step 24/25 in which there is a reverse fold.
Here are my problems:

I try the reverse fold the way it says...it doesn't look right, but i
remember back that someone said that the diagram is wrong right there and the
grid should be moved up and left one square...alright, it seems to work...but
it looks NOTHING at all like what it is supposed to look like in step 25, the
colors are off, the grid is different, etc.

Every time that i look at a picture someone has taken of the rose...it
doesn't help.  I figure that this is because people always take a picture of
the completed rose from the top and so it doesn't help me at all with the
step i am working on.  Has anyone ever taken a picture from the side or
bottom of the rose?

This is my LAST annoying e-mail about the kawasaki rose and i will never
mention or attempt to fold it again if i can not get it right this time.

      -Ross Cooper





From: Rebecca Holt <becky10@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 14:30
Subject: Re: Used books (was Jay Ansill  "Mythical Beings" available from

Oi Jeff,
Voce e outro origamista que fale portugues!?  Que otimo,
How did you learn Portuguese?  I lived in Salvador da Bahia
Brazil for a while myself.

So pela curiosidade,
Becky

Jeff Kerwood wrote:
>
> > I don't know about anyone else, but I've always had excellent luck using
> > All Book Exchange for finding out of print books...
> >
> > http://whipper.abebooks.com/
> >
> > Note: there's 3 copies of Mythical Beings available through these guys,
>
> Thanks. Wish they woulda had em when I was looking for this book a year ago
> (I spent months trying to track down just one copy of it <humph>). Anyway,
> when I was trying to find a copy I found a few other good places to look for
> out of print books. Thought they might be of interest.
>
> http://www.dealpilot.com/
> http://alldirect.com/
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/subst/home/home.html/002-0478104-9705807
> http://www.bibliocity.com/
> http://www.bibliofind.com/
> http://www.interloc.com/
> http://www.mxbf.com/
> http://www.powells.com/
> http://www.abebooks.com/home/SALAMANDER/
> http://www.shopping.com/ibuy/
>
> Sorte boa e muita felicidade,
> Jeff.





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 14:47
Subject: Re: Kawasaki Krazy

Ross,

My sympathies or condolences (whichever is applicable) in your elusive
quest to master the Kawasaki Rose.

Wouldn't it be fabulous if Mr. Kawasaki produced a video presentation of
the folding of his rose?  I bet it would be a perennial best seller.

Dorothy





From: Deg Farrelly <StickmanAZ@AOL.COM>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 18:12
Subject: Optiscope Diagrams

Thank you for the interest in the diagrams for my Optiscope model.

Thank you also to Anita, Doug Philips, and Manuel Nuno Alcada for promoting
the diagrams on my web site.

After the initial discussion about origami kaleidescopes I scanned the
diagrams of my model and posted them to my web space, then sent the URLs to
those who had contacted me for copies.

The jpg scans are a little small and fuzzy, but from reports I have received,
they are adequate to fold the model.

For those who are still interested, the diagrams are available at these URLs:

http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/6075/scope.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/6075/scope2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/6075/scope3.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/6075/scope4.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/6075/scope5.jpg

I will appreciate hearing from you if you fold the model.

o)-(
deg farrelly
StickmanAZ@aol.com





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 20:08
Subject: Re: Kawasaki Krazy

Ross wrote:

>I remember back that someone said that the diagram is wrong right there and
the
>grid should be moved up and left one square...

no, no, this is all wrong. At Step 24: the diagonal valley fold should
extend through 4 squares instead of 3, the vertical mountain fold should
be moved to the right one square, and the horizontal mountain fold should
move down one square.

Dorothy,

Kawasaki has beautiful, detailed, accurate directions for the new rose in
his book, "Rose, Origami, Mathematics." His folding sequence is somewhat
different from Winson Chan's as well.

-Jane, who has taught this thing





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 21:05
Subject: Re: Miniature Origami

>>I'm glad that I didn't have to use any tools at all. Just my fingers and
>>nails :-)
>>Alan Shutko

Hi, Y'all
I'm going to show off now, its taken all my free time today but I can now
fold a crane from a 1cm square without any tools. I might have managed this
quicker if my thumb nails hadn't decided to break before this thread was
started.

I've another tip for anyone who's still trying to get down this far, buy
Origami Fantasy then try to fold any of the models from as small a piece of
paper as possible... 20-30 inches works best in my opinion. Trust me you'll
be folding microscopic cranes in no time at all (^_^)

Does anyone know how to go smaller without tools? I can fold a 6mm sq into
the birdbase but alas cannot fold the bisectors for tail and neck : (

C'ya
Dave

You know I should probably be at least considering going to sleep instead of
fitting a new scalpel blade so I can have another go at the 6mm... I promise
myself that tomorrow I will fold fishes from 6" Kami... perhaps if I say it
often enough I'll believe it...





From: Sandy Toivonen <stoivo@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 21:41
Subject: Re: Optiscope Diagrams

Thanks for the card!  Labs do have that sad eyed/cuddly look about them
(that is the kind of dogs that Michele Feitler's aunt raises - they just
had 8 puppies around Christmas).

Not sure what the amount would be other than the gift shop hired someone
for 20 hours for $8 per hour so that is a good guess - it would not be
less.

Mom's 2nd eye surgery went well even though she was mostly awake through
it all - she heard things they said and the music in the operating
room.  She is seeing better even though that eye has not fully recovered
yet because the two eyes are not fighting each other as much.  Mostly
she sees far with no glasses and has cheap reading half glasses to help
with the closer up vision - her prescription is way to strong to see
anything out of now.  But she still has some fuzzy spots that move -
like looking through frosted glass she says.  She sees the eye doctor
again on Fri.  On Thurs she has a cardiologist appt.  And on Wed she has
a bone density test ordered by my doctor who just wants to get a reading
to see how strong her bones are as she has broken her ankle on the ice 6
years ago, then last fall the broken wrist and elbow.  So I will go in
late a few days this week.  I try to get her appts on my days off when I
can or else early in the day so I can still get to work not too late -
but is sure is hard to get her up and ready that early in the morning -
I have to remember that it takes her a lot longer to get dressed and
ready in the morning than it normally takes me.  I am just thankful that
Jim understands and if very good about telling me to just do what I need
to and come to work when I can - he knows that I have it covered
whenever I can't be there anyway.

As tomorrow is the 14th --- Happy Valentine's Day!  I will have to
remember to wear something red tomorrow!

Have a great week!

Sandy





From: Dor Jeong <DJeong1066@AOL.COM>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 22:58
Subject: Origami Sighting

FYI, noted in the latest issue of Modern Maturity, it says:

Diane "Ackerman teaches a creativity class at Cornell University and recently
completed a collection of poetry entitled ORIGAMI BRIDGES.  "

Another aspect of folding ?





From: "Melissa D. Johnson" <johnsonm@ACU.EDU>
Date: 13 Feb 2000 23:40
Subject: Re: Miniature Origami

Dave writes:
>I'm going to show off now, its taken all my free time today but I can now
>fold a crane from a 1cm square without any tools. I might have managed this
>quicker if my thumb nails hadn't decided to break before this thread was
>started.
>You know I should probably be at least considering going to sleep instead of
>fitting a new scalpel blade so I can have another go at the 6mm...

The smallest I can manage is a flapping bird from a 10mm square. And still
only *one* of the wings flaps. It is getting a few oohs and aahs. Now I have
an image of people all over the world folding paper into small creations.

Good luck on that 6mm square...

Melissa D. Johnson :)
http://melissadawn.johnson.org/  (origami site coming really soon!)

**Please reply-to: johnsonm@acu.edu

Melissa Dawn :)

**Please Reply-to  johnsonm@acu.edu

"Whenever we moved the first things we did were join the church
and get our library card."   --John Grisham





From: Michael Brunelle <Paperflex@AOL.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 00:22
Subject: Re: Origami in Fine Art.

    Zuloaga's portrait of Miguel de Unamuno sitting at his desk, upon which
sit two origami birds, appears in the recently released book, "The Basque
History of the World" by Mark Kurlansky (both Unamuno and Zuloaga were
Basques).
    According to the credits, the painting belongs to The Hispanic Society Of
America, in New York.





From: Mark Plant <mplant@UK.ORACLE.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 05:30
Subject: NO ... Re:      Re: Fold Your Arms: Materials for Folding Reviewed.

Shark ? ... Shrimps ? .... Yuck !!!

Good ol' fish, chips, mushy peas an' curry sauce wrapped in paper for me,
please !

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: David Taylor <mailto:dataylor@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <mailto:ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: Fold Your Arms: Materials for Folding Reviewed. Part Two.

> >This reminds me of a comment from Billy Connelly (a Scottish ex-welder,
now
> >comedian), who said that
> >Mexican food is all the same, and the dishes are distinguishable only by
the
> >way they are folded.
>
> Come to southern California & have a meal at Rubio's Baja Grill. Shark
> burrito, shrimp enchilada, the "famous" fish taco.... At fast-food prices,
> too!
> --Elise
>
>
> "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
> (Jim Elliot)





From: John Smith <pureland@WAITROSE.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 07:04
Subject: Re: Template folding

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin A. Hines" <>
To: <>
Sent: 09 February 2000 20:05
Subject: Re Template folding

> The next phase of my experimentation involves exploring the
> possibilities of design alteration of the folding map to
> produce (predictable) changes in the folded model.

This is an interesting topic in its own right. A few observations may be of
some interest.

1. Shuzo Fujimoto sent me a very attractive star but I could not find a
sequence for making it.
I asked Iris Walker for help (she has a great flair for finding how to fold
a model simply
from the finished work) Iris also could not find a sequence but produced a
template of folds needed.
I then used this and my digital camera to show how the star could be formed.
It has to be done in
in one great move. I have wondered how many other models can only be folded
in one move and
what are the constraints which one could find in the template.?

2. If one has only the original folds showing in the fully opened paper how
can one refold the model?
This elegant problem was tackled by Ricky Wong (BOS booklet no. 38) and he
showed his analytic
method of fold reconstruction knowing only the mountain and valley folds in
the original
sheet. Ricky also solves the problem of reconstructing the folding sequence.

3 I was intrigued by Vincente Palacios argument that the folds on the Birth
horoscopes are the same
as the Pajarita and there is presumably a link. It seemed obvious to me that
quite different shapes
would arise if one changed some of the folds from mountain to valley or vice
versa. I set to work
to produce some examples and found to my surprise that I could not. This has
led me to what
I call 'Smith's conjecture' (to massage my shrunken ego!).

The boundary shape is invariant to changes in the original folds, i.e. for
one or more of the orginal
folds a valley can be changed to a mountain and vice versa without a change
in the boundary shape, However this is subject to the following conditions.

No new folds must be made
Only the folds used in the final model are to involved.
The model must be a flat one.

I have no idea how to prove (or disprove) this conjecture, perhaps you know
someone who can.

I will now go to my shelter before the wrath of mathematicians pours down on
my head

John Smith.





From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 08:55
Subject: Re: [Re: Miniature Origami]

Hej everyone!

I'm trying to fold Thoki's Rectangulus Umulius from 50 * 17.5 mm paper, and I
can make perfect small units, but when I try to put them together they're
acting like boxes where the lid and button have the same size. I've been told
it's because that when doing the model this small the paperthickness starts to
matter. I'm using normal kami-paper, and I can't think of any paper that is
thinner? So do I need thinner paper or fold in another way or?
Any help is appreciated!!
See ya!
              Anine

PS. Perry B. instead of only handing out the diagram to the simple heart I'll
also teach them how to do it.

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From: Terrence Rioux <trioux@WHOI.EDU>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 09:41
Subject: Re: Miniature Origami

>This is a fun aside from doing what I'm supposed to be doing. I just tried
>one from a 15mm square with my fingers.

This thread reminds me of a gift I made for a friend's 'big five-o'
birthday.  It was a series of nesting Fuse boxes, with the smallest box
containing a tiny gold crane.

Cheers,

Terry Rioux





From: Mathieu Ciarlet <mciarlet@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 11:02
Subject: Books, miniatures, and question

Hi I need the following information (is anyone has it for sure...)
I'm looking for the following books
-  Origami Fantasy by Kawahata (I know it's sold out but one never knows)
-  The Mask by Tomoko Fuse
-  Spirals by Tomoko Fuse  (ISBN : 4-480-87262-0)
-  Issei super complex origami by Issei Yoshino

I think the last three are in japanese which would explain why I havn't been
able to find them on Amazon.com, bn, etc...
So I'd be grateful if anyone knows a web site to find and buy them. I've
tried the kinokuniya bookshop but the site is in japanese... that I still
don't understand...

Thanks in advance

Now here is my 2c for the miniature folding, I love silk paper for such
folds as 10 square mm cranes or parrots or flowers. I've also done the
Montroll shark out of a 15 mm square. Quite hard one actually. I'll try to
put photos on the web of my miniatures someday.

As for my question,  which do you think is the toughest origami model ???

"May the fold be with you"
Mathieu
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From: John McKeever <John@IMRNI.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 11:16
Subject: Re: Books, miniatures, and question

Mathieu Ciarlet writes:
>I'm looking for the following books
>-  Origami Fantasy by Kawahata (I know it's sold out but one never knows)
>-  The Mask by Tomoko Fuse
>-  Spirals by Tomoko Fuse  (ISBN : 4-480-87262-0)
>-  Issei super complex origami by Issei Yoshino

>I think the last three are in japanese which would explain why I havn't been
>able to find them on Amazon.com, bn, etc...

Origami Fantasy is sold out at Origami House in Japan, but there might still be
     copies left at Sasuga Books, Fascinating Folds or Origami USA supplies. (I
     ordered my copy from Sasuga last October.)
Each of these places probably stocks all the other books too.

I think the address for Sasuga books is simply:
www.sasugabooks.com/
... but if that doesn't work just go to
www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/
and check the links section. The addresses for OUSA and FF should be there too.

All 4 of those books are in Japanese, I think (not 100% sure about Spirals).

John





From: Mark Plant <mplant@UK.ORACLE.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 11:21
Subject: Re: Books, miniatures, and question

Try www.sasugabooks.com - I got Issei Super Complex Origami by Issei Yoshino
from there. Also searches on the author rather than the title may get a
better hit rate.

I'm afraid this folding small stuff doesn't work for me - I prefer to visit
http://www.dullmen.com.

The toughest models I have completed are Tom Hull's 5 Interlocking
Tetrahedra and the Kawasaki Rose on Joseph Wu's site. The first was tough
because of the perspective, and the second because the diagrams are very
flat, where the model is very 3-D.

Models that have beaten me (so far - I will be back !) are the Wild Boar,
Samurai Helmet and Horse in Super Complex Origami, and the Butterfly in
Lang's Origami Insects and Their Kin - the photo HAS to be a fake !

Regards

Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: Mathieu Ciarlet <mailto:mciarlet@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <mailto:ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 4:01 PM
Subject: Books, miniatures, and question

> Hi I need the following information (is anyone has it for sure...)
> I'm looking for the following books
> -  Origami Fantasy by Kawahata (I know it's sold out but one never knows)
> -  The Mask by Tomoko Fuse
> -  Spirals by Tomoko Fuse  (ISBN : 4-480-87262-0)
> -  Issei super complex origami by Issei Yoshino
>
> I think the last three are in japanese which would explain why I havn't
been
> able to find them on Amazon.com, bn, etc...
> So I'd be grateful if anyone knows a web site to find and buy them. I've
> tried the kinokuniya bookshop but the site is in japanese... that I still
> don't understand...
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Now here is my 2c for the miniature folding, I love silk paper for such
> folds as 10 square mm cranes or parrots or flowers. I've also done the
> Montroll shark out of a 15 mm square. Quite hard one actually. I'll try to
> put photos on the web of my miniatures someday.
>
> As for my question,  which do you think is the toughest origami model ???
>
> "May the fold be with you"
> Mathieu
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From: "Furlong, John T" <john.t.furlong@LMCO.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 11:43
Subject: Re: Books, miniatures, and question

An American company named Fascinating Folds
(http://www.fascinating-folds.com) seems to have some of these books in
their system.  There was no indication if they were in stock or not.

9120       Super Complex Origami
$55.95
               (Japanese)
               Author: Issei Yoshino - Japanese
                       Language

9119         Origami Fantasy (Japanese)                          $50.95
                 Author: Fumiaki Kawahata -
                 Japanese Language

9104        Origami Spirals/Japanese
$21.95
                Author: Tomoko Fuse -
                4-480-87262

9109        The Mask - Japanese
$52.95
                Author: Tomoko Fuse - NO ISBN
                - Origami House

I've ordered from them before and they seem like a very good company.
Everything came as promised and was shipped US priority mail..

John Furlong

> ----------
> From:         Mathieu Ciarlet[SMTP:mciarlet@HOTMAIL.COM]
> Reply To:     Origami List
> Sent:         Monday, February 14, 2000 11:01 AM
> To:   ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject:      Books, miniatures, and question
>
> Hi I need the following information (is anyone has it for sure...)
> I'm looking for the following books
> -  Origami Fantasy by Kawahata (I know it's sold out but one never knows)
> -  The Mask by Tomoko Fuse
> -  Spirals by Tomoko Fuse  (ISBN : 4-480-87262-0)
> -  Issei super complex origami by Issei Yoshino
>
> I think the last three are in japanese which would explain why I havn't
> been
> able to find them on Amazon.com, bn, etc...
> So I'd be grateful if anyone knows a web site to find and buy them. I've
> tried the kinokuniya bookshop but the site is in japanese... that I still
> don't understand...





From: "Tam, Aileen" <ATam@HR.UCSF.EDU>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 11:43
Subject: Re: Crane Flower Author??

Wow, I just read this e-mail.  This is the first time I've ever heard of a
Crane Flower.  I could not help but wonder how does a Crane Flower looks
like?  Do you or does anyone who has seen it can refer me to a website that
has a photograph of a Crane Flower.

thanks in advance.
Aileen

-----Original Message-----
From: Hatori Koshiro [mailto:hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP]
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:17 AM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Crane Flower Author??

> I just finished a wonderful Crane Flower. I would appreciate it very
> much if someone could help me with the creators name. Below is a
> description...

Sorry for such a late reply.
His name is Hosomizu Masashi.
(The last name comes first in Japanese name, as me)

 _ _ _ _ _
|         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
|_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
|         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
|_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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From: Rob Hudson <FashFold@AOL.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 11:50
Subject: Mythical Beings

$50?  I will let Mythical Beings go for $25+shipping.  Any takers?





From: "Metzger, Jacob" <Jacob.Metzger@CIT.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 13:46
Subject: Re: Fold Your Arms: Materials for Folding Reviewed/Origami Sighti ng

How about folding proteins?

>From an article on Newsweek.com about IBM's new proposed supercomputer:

...The speed of the proposed machine, dubbed Blue Gene, is astronomical. It
would handle 1 quadrillion operations per second-that's 15 zeroes-making it
the first "petaflop" computer. That's 500 times faster than today's
scorching supercomputers and 2 million times faster than PCs. Monty Denneau,
one of the countless bouncy geniuses at IBM's labs, told NEWSWEEK that if a
conventional PC's speed were represented on a bar chart as one inch tall,
the bar for Blue Gene would reach 30 miles." ...

...Working with pharmaceutical companies, IBM hopes to solve one of the
greatest mysteries of molecular biology: how the proteins that our genes
produce fold into their functional shapes. Once scientists better understand
that molecular origami, they can simulate the effect of drugs on those
proteins and potentially produce cures. The complexity of the task is so
confounding that today's computers can barely simulate a fraction of the
folding process...

http://www.newsweek.com/nw-srv/printed/us/st/a9060-1999dec5.htm

Yaacov Metzger





From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 14:03
Subject: My first designs!!!

Hiii!!

I've been fumbling with paper while checking mail and wuhu! I ended up having
2 models! I know one is a basket (probably designed already but you can always
hope ;) and the other one is something I call Nessie ;) But any other
suggestions are welcome!
I've scanned the 2 models and I'd like to hear some comments to them (and
wether they've been made before) so write to me and ask for pics! (I just
scanned them). I'll be waiting :)

Anine

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From: Elaina Quackenbush <elaina_quackenbush@NETZERO.NET>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:01
Subject: Re: My first designs!!!

Hi!  I'd like to see them!

elaina
-----Original Message-----
From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:01:33 -0500
Subject: My first designs!!!

Hiii!!

I've been fumbling with paper while checking mail and wuhu! I ended up
having
2 models! I know one is a basket (probably designed already but you can
always
hope ;) and the other one is something I call Nessie ;) But any other
suggestions are welcome!
I've scanned the 2 models and I'd like to hear some comments to them (and
wether they've been made before) so write to me and ask for pics! (I just
scanned them). I'll be waiting :)

Anine

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From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:28
Subject: NO ... Re: Re: Fold Your Arms: Materials for Folding Reviewed. Part

Mark Plant <mplant@UK.ORACLE.COM> sez

>Good ol' fish, chips, mushy peas an' curry sauce wrapped in paper for me,

Eee tha sounds like a Yorkshireman lad...

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    www.britishorigami.org.uk





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:45
Subject: [NO] Happy Valentine's Day!

Hi,

This is Kenneth Kawamura, in Lansing, MI.

Just a couple of cute links for Valentine's Day:
(Yes, I know they're not Origami,
but I think they're neat anyway)

Danish Christmas Hearts
    (Woven Paper Hearts)
    http://users.cybercity.dk/~ccc24645/xmsheart.htm

Papercutting Designs by Ellen Brown
    (see her Scherenschnitte Valentines)
    http://www.ao.com/ellenbrown/papercutting.html

Ben & Jerry's Paper Hearts
    (may not be there anymore)
    http://euphoria.benjerry.com/fun/heart-flakes.html

Aloha,
Kenneth





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 16:27
Subject: Re: Miniature Update!

>Well, you've got me at it now. I've managed to fold one from a square 25mm,
>if you precrease everything first you can manage it with your fingers.
>
>Dave

I dont suppose you saw the stegosaurus and t rex on my webpage, both folded
from 25.4 mm squares? I've scanned them next to a 1p UK coin. When I figure
out how to 'doctor' these scans, I'll show a Kawahata stegosaurus folded
from a 1mm sheet of paper ;-)

Stephen

www.geocities.com/paperfolder.geo    look under essays section
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From: Lucille <lucijay@HOME.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 17:02
Subject: Re: Happy Valentine's Day!

Happy Valentine's Day to everyone on the list!

What did we all do Origami-wise for Valentine's Day?  I was up at 1:00 am
folding hearts to go in a card for my sweetie.  Not my idea of a challenging
folding project - but hey, we do what we have to do in this life!

from lucijay@work.today 8-{





From: Jansill@AOL.COM
Date: 14 Feb 2000 17:29
Subject: Re: Mythical Beings

In a message dated 2/14/00 4:02:13 PM, LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU writes:

<< Subject: Mythical Beings

$50?  I will let Mythical Beings go for $25+shipping.  Any takers?
 >>

Should I be flattered....or insulted?

As ever,

Jay
Jay Ansill
www.fortissimo.org/artists/ansill
All lives have happened long ago; or, at any rate, they are not happening
now, however immediate they may seem to the people that are living them. -
Laura Riding





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 18:05
Subject: Re: Happy Valentine's Day!

Thanks, Kenny!   I received a wonderful origami valentine today...an
offer from a media distributor to distribute "Folding California", my
origami television show.
I'm so thrilled and grateful that "Folding California" will finally be
available for home video sales and for distribution to public schools
and educational venues.

Whatta fabulous valentine to the over one hundred contributing artists,
folders, consultants, animator, translators, music talent, music
publishers and my crew whose hard, dedication and support made "Folding
California" possible.

Dorothy





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 18:09
Subject: Re: Happy Valentine's Day!

Dorothy Engleman wrote:
> I'm so thrilled and grateful that "Folding California" will finally be
> available for home video sales and for distribution to public schools
> and educational venues.

Good news! I hope you can find terms that fair to you and the company both.
Please announce the details when the deal is done!

-D'gou





From: Wendi Curtis <rebelgami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 18:36
Subject: Re: Happy Valentine's Day!

Yes, this is good news not only for Dorothy but all those who contributed to
the making of this tape as they too should be receiving a monetary return
from the sale of each of these tapes.
WC

>From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Happy Valentine's Day!
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:04:56 -0800
>
>Thanks, Kenny!   I received a wonderful origami valentine today...an
>offer from a media distributor to distribute "Folding California", my
>origami television show.
>I'm so thrilled and grateful that "Folding California" will finally be
>available for home video sales and for distribution to public schools
>and educational venues.
>
>Whatta fabulous valentine to the over one hundred contributing artists,
>folders, consultants, animator, translators, music talent, music
>publishers and my crew whose hard, dedication and support made "Folding
>California" possible.
>
>Dorothy

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From: Cindy Walker <cw@JPS.NET>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 18:42
Subject: Re: Krazy Origami

Is this book still in print?  It doesn't look like Amazon or Barnes and
Noble have it.

>Kawasaki has beautiful, detailed, accurate directions for the new rose in
>his book, "Rose, Origami, Mathematics." His folding sequence is somewhat
>different from Winson Chan's as well.

-Cindy
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that
held its ground.





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 18:48
Subject: Re: Krazy Origami

On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Cindy Walker wrote:

re: Rose, Origami & Mathematics
> Is this book still in print?  It doesn't look like Amazon or Barnes and
> Noble have it.

Probably because the book is in Japanese, so you will have to try another
supplier eg. Sasuga.

regards
Michael





From: Doug Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 18:52
Subject: Re: Happy Valentine's Day!

on 2/14/00 2:03 PM, Lucille at lucijay@HOME.COM wrote:

> Happy Valentine's Day to everyone on the list!
>
> What did we all do Origami-wise for Valentine's Day?  I was up at 1:00 am
> folding hearts to go in a card for my sweetie.  Not my idea of a challenging
> folding project - but hey, we do what we have to do in this life!
>
> from lucijay@work.today 8-{
>

I folded a heart with wings from the Origami calendar, and a double heart
from 100 Oriland Favorites.  I am really enjoying the Oriland disc.  I also
folded the rose cube kusudama from it, and am working through all the
flowers and arrangements.  They will help for Mother's Day, all too soon.
Not to mention Secretaries' Day (though male assistants seem to prefer
geometrics.)

Anna





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 19:38
Subject: Re: Miniature Update!

> I dont suppose you saw the stegosaurus and t rex on my webpage, both folded
>  from 25.4 mm squares? I've scanned them next to a 1p UK coin. When I figure
>  out how to 'doctor' these scans, I'll show a Kawahata stegosaurus folded
>  from a 1mm sheet of paper ;-)
>  Stephen

I was amazed when I first saw them a while back, I look forward to the Stegy
from 1mm ; )

It still takes me around 2 hours to fold Montroll's stegy from 6" Kami (Never
mind Kawahatas...). Please dont start me trying fold that one from anything
smaller... I have some sort of life to lead... even if it does include a lot
of flapping birds at the moment : )

Dave





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@MOEBIUS.INKA.DE>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 20:14
Subject: Re: Crane Flower Author??

On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 08:42:18AM -0800, Tam, Aileen wrote:
> Wow, I just read this e-mail.  This is the first time I've ever heard of a
> Crane Flower.  I could not help but wonder how does a Crane Flower looks
> like?

There is a picture of a Crane Flower on
http://www.papierfalten.de/en/conventions/hildesheim1999.html -- if
that's what Koshiro means.

--
Yours, Sebastian <skirsch@t-online.de>

*** Dieses Schreiben wurde mit Hilfe einer Datenverarbeitungsanlage ***
*** erstellt und bedarf keiner Unterschrift.                        ***





From: Zach White <8trak@INDY.NET>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 20:53
Subject: kawasaki rose

I'm having lots of trouble with the kawasaki rose (doesn't everybody?) I got
     the twist fold by myself, but now I'm on step 20 and i'm supposed to bring
     the flaps of the twist fold together into a cylinder.. I'm really confused
     by the diagram and if anyone





From: Zach White <8trak@INDY.NET>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 20:58
Subject: kawasaki rose

i don't know if anyone could see my e-mail address in that last message about
     the kawasaki rose, but it's 8trak@indy.net   any help would be very
     appreciated thanks





From: Susan Dugan <florafauna@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 21:27
Subject: Re: NO: Hobbits Mom

This is update from a Nov. post
My Mom's back was fractured during a family trip to Seattle during the ORCA
convention.

My Mom Just got her back brace off the Nov 1 surgery was a success!!! She
has been home since Dec. and is walking well. She has just started rehab on
trying to get back to "Normal" she is not driving yet but We are sure she
will be.

Thank You for your GOOD thoughts and prayers I know they helped.

On another note for the first time I am so far behind on reading the O list
messages I am giving up on the backlog 844 deleting them and starting new.

thank you
Hobbit





From: Eric A Shieh <eshieh@ANDREW.CMU.EDU>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 21:41
Subject: complex origami books

Hi all!
Does anyone know any good origami books which have complex models?
Thanks!

-Eric

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Carnegie Mellon University
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PO Box 2888
Pittsburgh, PA 15230-2888

Home:(412)862-3210

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  "Trust in the LORD with all your heart
     and lean not on your own understanding;
   in all your ways acknowledge him,
     and he will make your paths straight."





From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: 14 Feb 2000 22:43
Subject: Re: Crane Flower Author??

> > Wow, I just read this e-mail.  This is the first time I've ever heard of
a
> > Crane Flower.  I could not help but wonder how does a Crane Flower looks
> > like?
>
> There is a picture of a Crane Flower on
> http://www.papierfalten.de/en/conventions/hildesheim1999.html -- if
> that's what Koshiro means.

No, it isn't. What I, and originally Kathy mean are seen in
ORU magazine #1 p.29 and #8 pp.16-17. Some of them are diagramed
in ORU FOLDING DIAGRAMS both vol.1 and vol.2.

 _ _ _ _ _
|         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
|_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
|         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
|_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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From: Maarten van Gelder <VGELDER@KVI.nl>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 03:14
Subject: Cube from 8 1/2 x 11 paper?

Can anybody answer this question (directly to SOplinger@aol.com)?

-------- Original Message --------
From: nobody@info2.service.rug.nl (WWW server via mailform)
Subject: WWW form from 98C9AFAA.ipt.aol.com
To: M.J.van.Gelder@KVI.nl

Commentaar=Please...could you send me information on folding a cube
from an 8 1/2" X 11" piece of paper.  We can not glue, tape, cut, or
tear.  This must be a simple fold.  I would appreciate a response at
the above E-mail address as soon as possible.
Thank You.

Scott Oplinger
E-mail=SOplinger@aol.com
Instelling=Alvernia College
Locatie=Reading, Pennsylvania USA
Naam=Scott Oplinger
Voorletters=SBO
herkomst=http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models/boxes/tematebk/index.htm





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 05:55
Subject: 'Smith's conjecture'

John Smith conjectured:

>The boundary shape is invariant to changes in the original folds, i.e. for
>one or more of the orginal folds a valley can be changed to a mountain
>and vice versa without a change in the boundary shape

provided

>No new folds must be made
>Only the folds used in the final model are to involved.
>The model must be a flat one.

Nice idea!

I think it's clear this conjecture is true if the paper is only folded once.

It still appears to hold if the paper is only folded twice except that we
need to add the further provision that every original fold must still be
used.

Unfortunately the conjecture does not hold true for n folds. To prove this
fold a waterbomb base and blunt each of the four corners by folding a small
section inwards. Open it out, reverse the direction of the four small flaps
and refold it as a preliminary fold. You will find that the boundary shape
is different. Both lie flat etc.

Dave Mitchell





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 07:57
Subject: Re: complex origami books

>>From: Eric A Shieh <eshieh@ANDREW.CMU.EDU>
>>Subject:      complex origami books
>>
>>Does anyone know any good origami books which have complex models?

Eric, "complex" is a relative term; you could get a more precise answer by
asking "which good books have mostly models more complex than Engel's
butterfly" or something like that. Also, most books have a wide range
of complexity; e.g., any OUSA Annual has at least half a dozen state-of-the
-art, cutting-edge, spanking-new complex models... among nearly 100
other, mostly intermediate or simple models.
Anyway, here are some suggestions almost universally held as "you-can't-
go-wrong-with-these":

Montroll & Lang's "Origami Sea Life", Dover
Montroll's "Animal Origami for the Enthusiast", Dover
Montroll's "Origami for the Enthusiast", Dover
Lang's "Origami Insects and their Kin", Dover
Lang's and Weiss's "Origami Zoo", St. Martin's
 (actually any Montroll or Lang book, except "Easy Origami", "Origami
  American Style", and maybe "Favorite Animals in Origami")
Yoshino's "Issei Super Complex Origami", Gallery House, Japanese
Kawahata's "Origami Fantasy", Gallery House, Japanese
Engel's "Folding the Universe", Vintage/Dover
Brill's "Brilliant Origami", Japan Publications
Kasahara & Takahama's "Origami for the Connoisseur", Japan Publications
Harbin's "Origami Step-by-step", Dover
Clemente's "Papiroflexia", Saber Mas, Spanish
Grupo Riglos's "El Libro de las Pajaritas de Papel Plegado", Spanish
Voyer's "Papirofauna", self-published, Spanish

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@MOEBIUS.INKA.DE>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 10:11
Subject: Re: Crane Flower Author??

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 12:41:48PM +0900, Hatori Koshiro wrote:
> No, it isn't.

I'm sorry.

--
Yours, Sebastian <skirsch@t-online.de>

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From: Penny Groom <penny.groom@BTINTERNET.COM>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:59
Subject: Folded tributes to classical composers

Thanks to the list I now have access to an origami face of
Verdi,Beethoven & Wagner, thanks to people who replied.

Any Mozarts out there?Or anyone else...............?

Thanks

Penny
Penny Groom

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www.britishorigami.org.uk/

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From: "JacAlArt ." <jacalart@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 15:53
Subject: Re: complex origami books

Definitely the top 3 would be:
Yoshino's "Issei Super Complex Origami", Gallery House, Japanese
Kawahata's "Origami Fantasy", Gallery House, Japanese
Lang's "Origami Insects and their Kin", Dover

There are other books that include a variety of levels, but these three are
pretty much 99% super complex. I can highly recommend all three as I have
them all. For truly original/interesting complex models mixed with
everything else from simple to modular/unit, check out the Origami Tanteidan
newsletters and annual collections. (Now knows as The Japanese Academic
Origami Society or something.)

The Japanese stuff above, although written in Japanese, has such clear
diagrams that you really don't miss the text at all.

~JacAlArt

>From: Eric A Shieh <eshieh@ANDREW.CMU.EDU>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: complex origami books
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:29:44 -0500
>
>Hi all!
>Does anyone know any good origami books which have complex models?
>Thanks!
>
>-Eric
>
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From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 15:55
Subject: Re: Lang's Samurai Helmet Beetle

Jason asked:

>Any suggestions on how to fold this tear free?
>(especially that steps 76-80)

    I finally succeeded with that complex interior spread-sink-collapse
maneuver by practicing on a separate piece of paper. If you become familiar
with the moves you need to accomplish it with a couple of trial runs, it is
a lot easier when working inside the actual model.

    But it is never going to be easy!

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 16:54
Subject: simple dinos anywhere?

Hi - I've been asked to put together a book of simple(ish) dinos - I'm
on the verge of turning down the offer because I don't know of enough
quality designs for a book.

I would welcome any suggestions &/or diagrams!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    www.britishorigami.org.uk





From: David Taylor <dataylor@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 17:29
Subject: Re: [NO] Happy Valentine's Day!

Hello, Kenneth--
Thanks for the heart links (are heart links a kind of sausage?); I
especially liked the woven ones!
Aloha from MI?
Oh well,  bientt from San Diego!
--Elise





From: Zach White <8trak@INDY.NET>
Date: 15 Feb 2000 17:46
Subject: kawasaki new-rose

    this kawasaki rose is really frustrating! does anybody understand how to
     make the cylinder it asks for in step 20? somehow bringing the 4 flaps
     together??
