




From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: 09 Feb 2000 17:38
Subject: Any UK Origami events 2/20-3/4?

Hi all:

My family and I will be in the U.K. from 2/20 to 3/4 and I was wondering if
there were any groups meeting during that time or perhaps any Origami
events of note?

Would love to meet some of you face to face!

"Peace In Creases"

Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 09 Feb 2000 17:40
Subject: Re: Folding the Universe

Weren't the crease patterns also separated in the Dover edition? I seem
to remember the crease pattern for each model appearing with the diagrams
in the original edition, whereas the Dover edition devoted a 2-page spread
somewhere in the introductory section.

regards

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Michael Janssen-Gibson                 e-mail: mig@isd.canberra.edu.au
ISD, Library                   phone/voice mail: +61 6 (02) 6201 5665
Science & Design                            fax: +61 6 (02) 6201 5068
University of Canberra
PO Box 1 Belconnen, ACT 2616





From: THOKI YENN <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:03
Subject: Sv:      Template folding

 Kevin A. Hines was kind enough to mention
The crossed Box Pleat

>I first discovered this technique while reproducing Thoki
>Yenn's crossed box-pleat (mentioned on this list a few
>months ago- I forget the address,

here is the URL

http://www.thok.dk/cbphp.html

Service with a smile

Regards

The Great and Glorious Kalmon of the North





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:45
Subject: Re: Unadorned Origami

Stephen O'Hanlon quipped:

"Having found an ideal, acid free paper, just the right thickness and
texture, obtained from the hide of the Spiney anteaster, blended with
giant panda saliva, I intend to foil-back this paper. Does anyone know
of any alloy which has an incredibly low level of chemical reactivity
and an almost infinate half-life?"

Um, Stephen, in some enlightened corners of the world, anti-pollution
measures are <gasp!> actually embraced.

http://www.ci.santa-monica.ca.us/environment/INDEX.HTM

They all laughed at Christopher Columbus When he said the world was
round
They all laughed when Edison recorded sound...

Dorothy
Santa Monica, California





From: Leong Cheng Chit <leongccr@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 09 Feb 2000 20:08
Subject: Re: origami faces of composers

Dear Penny,

Joseph Wu's origami page has several face models by Eric Joisel. Not sure
whether they bear resemblance to the composers.
Cheers!

Cheng Chit





From: Ross Cooper <Zxenor@AOL.COM>
Date: 09 Feb 2000 22:47
Subject: Re: "New" Kawasaki Rose Help!

Dennis wrote:
>THANKS!!  This is just what I needed!  I need a little more practice
>to get the cylinder tighter, but your pointers got me through to the end.
>I really like this model!

UGH!!!!! unfair!!!

i've been working on this model for MONTHS now and i STILL don't get
it...i've searched the archives, i've asked for advice...i've expirimented
several times and i'm starting to get mad :-(.  I have thrown away SO MANY
prefolded papers that i am about to give up on the entire thing.  i can get
the twist fold i can pull the flaps together...kinda (i'm not too sure if it
is right because the picture looks like it was drawn out of perspective)but
WHAT DO I DO AFTER THAT??  it doesn't make any sense the way it is worded...

...congrats by the way

    -Ross Cooper





From: Ross Cooper <Zxenor@AOL.COM>
Date: 09 Feb 2000 22:53
Subject: Imaginary Models

this is going to sounds REALLY weird but...bear with me

For those of you that know about imaginary numbers (square root of -1, i,
etc...)  I was wondering if there was a model that somehow represented
imaginary numbers (example:  mandelbrot set?).  For those of you that have NO
CLUE what i'm talking about, just don't even try to understand it and delete
this e-mail because it probably won't make much sense anyways...

      -Ross Cooper





From: Darren Andrew Scott <Darren.Scott@SCI.MONASH.EDU.AU>
Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:04
Subject: origami GameBoy Game ?

I read on the list a while ago people joking about origami trading cards
this then moved on to the possibility of a gameboy game based on origami.
I have some free time on my hand and willing to work on the game this would
be placedon the web and able to be run on any of the free emulators out
there or of course the real gameboy what i do need is help and ideas of
what people whant in the game / type etc. and people willing to do some of
the graphics work.

if anyone is interested just mail me

Regards
Darren





From: Pat Ellis <EllisPS@AOL.COM>
Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:08
Subject: Need help finding diagram

Hello All,

At last June's OUSA convention's exhibit someone displayed a model of 5
intersecting tetrahedrons made from dollar bills.  I have been asked to find
this diagram.  Where should I look?

Thanks in advance,

Pat





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:10
Subject: Re: Imaginary Models

Ross Cooper wrote:
>
> this is going to sounds REALLY weird but...bear with me
>
> For those of you that know about imaginary numbers (square root of -1, i,
> etc...)  I was wondering if there was a model that somehow represented
> imaginary numbers (example:  mandelbrot set?).  For those of you that have NO
> CLUE what i'm talking about, just don't even try to understand it and delete
> this e-mail because it probably won't make much sense anyways...

Yes!  Jeremy Shafers Carbon Atom!!

Perry (You have just been serviced with a smile!)
--
"Hope is a little thing
with feathers
perched in the soul all day,
it does it's little business
and then it flies away!"

Victor Buono from "It could be verse"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!





From: Dan Gries <dangries@MATH.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 00:55
Subject: Re: Imaginary Models

actually, just a plain unfolded sheet of paper should do the trick.
(the complex numbers form a plane.)

i, of course, mention this so i can sound like a smart ass.

-dan

> > For those of you that know about imaginary numbers (square root of -1, i,
> > etc...)  I was wondering if there was a model that somehow represented
> > imaginary numbers (example:  mandelbrot set?).  For those of you that have
     NO
> > CLUE what i'm talking about, just don't even try to understand it and delete
> > this e-mail because it probably won't make much sense anyways...





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 01:16
Subject: Re: Imaginary Models

At 10:52 PM 2/9/00 -0500, you wrote:
>For those of you that know about imaginary numbers (square root of -1, i,
>etc...)  I was wondering if there was a model that somehow represented
>imaginary numbers (example:  mandelbrot set?).

I am not much of a math expert, but it would seem an empty origami package
would make for a fair representation.

Marc

http://marckrsh.home.pipeline.com





From: Kelly Dunn <Kellydunn@AOL.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 02:42
Subject: Re: Imaginary Models

In a message dated 2/9/00 7:53:43 PM, Zxenor@AOL.COM writes:

<<  I was wondering if there was a model that somehow represented
imaginary numbers >>

No, there isn't.

Kelly





From: Papa Joe <papajoe@CHORUS.NET>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 05:19
Subject: Re: Need help finding diagram

From: "Pat Ellis" <EllisPS@aol.com>
Subject: Need help finding diagram

> At last June's OUSA convention's exhibit someone displayed a model of 5
> intersecting tetrahedrons made from dollar bills.  I have been asked to
find
> this diagram.  Where should I look?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Pat

You can find the diagrams on how to make the F.I.T. on Tom Hull's page
 http://web.merrimack.edu/~thull (home page)

http://web.merrimack.edu/~thull/fit.html (F.I.T. page)

The only thing you have to do to make the F.I.T.
out of a dollar bill is narrow the bill first before folding.

The trick is to know just how much to narrow the bill!
Too wide model is too tight and bends the side of some struts.
Too narrow and the model is loose.

The first F.I.T. I ever folded I folded out of $.
I had help on figuring out how much to narrow the $ for my first F.I.T.
from Andrew Hans   ( Dribalz@aol.com)

BTW the F.I.T. at the OUSA convention was folded by him.
(see link below)
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Den/8802/Convention/i40.html

Ok the instructions.....

Take a dollar bill, lay it in front of you green side up.
You will see a white border at the top and bottom.
For my first model I folded back (mountain) all the
white border top & bottom.  And folded per Tom's diagrams.
This will result in a green side out strut. (you will need $30.00
to make one F.I.T.)  When I assembled my first F.I.T. I found that
the "last" piece was just tiny bit tight. This results in a very slight
bending of some (about 4) struts. This bending is not all that noticeable
and can even be hidden at the bottom of the model, but it is still there.

I did not like this "slight bending" so I decided to make a second F.I.T.
This time I folded back along the top edge of "The United States of America"
and on the bottom edge of "One Dollar".  I think this will make the better
fiting
F.I.T.  And this is what I would recomend.      BUT.......

Although I have folded all the pieces for the second F.I.T., I have not
had the time to assemble and test them to see if it will be too loose.

And this goes without saying but USE NEW BILLS!
You can get new bills from banks. (straight from the mint)
There is no point in going through all the trouble if it does not look good
in the end.

Joe Gilardi





From: Mark Plant <mplant@UK.ORACLE.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 05:32
Subject: Re: "New" Kawasaki Rose Help!

Glad I was able to help.

Regards

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Cuy <mailto:astra01@HOME.COM>
To: <mailto:ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: "New" Kawasaki Rose Help!

> Mark,
>
> You wrote:
> >This is by far (IMHO) the toughest part of the model !!
> >
> >Diagram 21 is what the model looks like from above - the flaps just
> >wrap over each other, folding back on themselves at the diagonal line
> >shown in diagram 20. The top edge of each flap is the mountain fold
running
> >from the centre
> >of the model to the outer edge formed when you did the twist in sets 18
and
> >19. The little
> >square is inside the top of the resulting cylinder, closing off the top.
The
> >top edge of each
> >flap kinda spirals off the centre of the little square.
> >
> >Step 22 is looking into the cylinder from the bottom. The little square
> >shown in
> >the diagram is at the other end of the cylinder.
>
> THANKS!!  This is just what I needed!  I need a little more practice
> to get the cylinder tighter, but your pointers got me through to the end.
> I really like this model!
>
> Dennis





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 06:06
Subject: Unadorned Origami

Dorothy Engleman wrote:

> I apologize for mistakenly implying that our artform is ephemeral

Please don't. I think you were entirely right in the first place.

Origami is a process more than a result.

Dave Mitchell





From: Mark Plant <mplant@UK.ORACLE.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 06:45
Subject: Re: "New" Kawasaki Rose Help!

> UGH!!!!! unfair!!!
>
> i've been working on this model for MONTHS now and i STILL don't get
> it...i've searched the archives, i've asked for advice...i've expirimented
> several times and i'm starting to get mad :-(.  I have thrown away SO MANY
> prefolded papers that i am about to give up on the entire thing.  i can
get
> the twist fold i can pull the flaps together...kinda (i'm not too sure if
it
> is right because the picture looks like it was drawn out of
perspective)but
> WHAT DO I DO AFTER THAT??  it doesn't make any sense the way it is
worded...
>
> ...congrats by the way
>
>     -Ross Cooper
>

Ross

Hey - calm down ! Deep breaths ... In ... out  ... in ... out .... It's only
paper ... it's not the end of the world.

For those wondering what this is all about, go to

    http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Files/PDF/rose.pdf

I would suggest that this model should be first attempted using as large a
square of paper as you can find.  12 inch square is good ... 1.5 cm square
is asking for toys to be thrown out of prams ... After much practice, I can
do this fold starting with a 4 inch square. No doubt someone somewhere who
has access to an electron microscope can do it with a single scale from a
butterfly's wing, but hey - life is for living, right ?

Once you have the cylinder (steps 22 and 23), completing the model is
straightforward, but not easy, especially since the instructions for forming
the base are a little misleading, I think. Once you have done one, of
course, it is just soooo simple !

In steps 14, 15 and 16 you precrease the base of the rose.

I found that steps 25 and 26 (which is where I think you are stuck) are
easiest to perform by proceding anti-clockwise round the model.

Step 25:  for each flap, you simply reform the left hand side of those
precreases, noting that once the creases are redone, the flaps overlap each
other. The fourth one is a little difficult. Note you are folding TWO layers
of paper for each flap.

Step 26: fold the right hand flap down on top of itself pushing the bottom
right hand point (where the crease leaves the paper) up and through, so the
edge now lines up with the left hand edge of the flap pointing downwards,
and you get a mountain fold down the lower right-hand edge of the base. At
this stage you should have the same 'A'-shape as in step 14, with the left
side concealed under the flap pointing up. Rotate the model 90 degrees
clockwise, and repeat for the flap now pointing right. Do this for the other
two flaps as well. The fourth one is a struggle, but if you concentrate and
don't tear the paper, it will go. The four flaps are then kinda woven
together, 1 on top of 2 on top of 3 on top of 4 on top of 1 .... if you
count clockwise from any point. You will probably have to do a bit of
rearranging to get this neat. Note that the model is going away from you in
the diagram for step 26 - you are looking at the base.

I think it is a good model. Well worth the effort. Better, I think, than the
version in Origami for the Connoisseur. And for the ornithologists amongst
us, the chicks just luuurv this stuff. It's Valentines Day next week ! Woof
!!

Hope this rambling helps.

Still breathing ? Calmed down ? OK ? Jolly good.

Mark





From: Manuel Nuno Alcada <nunoalca@MED.UP.PT>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 08:42
Subject: Re: Can anyone help?

>> I'm teaching origami at a clinic for children with Juvenile Rheumatoid
>> Arthritis in a few weeks.  Any suggestions for folds that are 1) simple
>> -that is they don't require too much manual dexterity and 2) visually
>> rewarding?  Does anyone out there have experience teaching either adults
>> or children with dexterity problems?
>>
>> Any information or suggestions would be appreciated.

How about the traditional crane or the traditional frog!

Children always like it...

Best wishes
Manuel Nuno





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:29
Subject: Re: origami faces of composers

>>From: Penny Groom <penny.groom@BTINTERNET.COM>
>>
>>any folded faces of classical composers. He is very keen to get going on
>>an idea he has.
>>If anyone knows of any please let me know and also the source and the
>>creator so he can get permission to use them.

Ok Penny, BOS booklet 36 by Venables, "Faces and Busts" has
Neal Elias's bust of Beethoven complete with stand, from a 1x2 rectangle.
Also, in booklet 34 "Miscellaneous Folds 1" there's "Beethoven plays
Beethoven", a pianist + bench from a 3x2 rectangle, which can be
paired with 1x2 grand piano, and "Beethoven plays Beethoven II",
pianist + bench + piano from a 2x7.
The BpB models are rather generic (as expected from the scale) and
despite the name could stand for any person. The bust, on the other
hand, is very Beethoven-like, especially with properly crushed hair.
Please note: these booklets are almost fac-similes of Elias's notebooks;
his personal drafts were full of shortcuts and never originally
intended for unedited publication, and therefore can be a little hard
to understand.

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:41
Subject: Re: Imaginary Models

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>

I've got a grillion imaginary models. Remember, though, between thought and
ezpression there lies a lifetime (I think it was Gaugin who said it, but it
could just as well have been Warhol, go figure (getcher Bartletts out
kiddies...)). All the best - c!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
imagine an haiku here
            -Basho





From: "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel@EXC.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:51
Subject: "New" Kawasaki Rose Help!

>For those wondering what this is all about, go to
>
>   http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Files/PDF/rose.pdf

I remember one set of diagrams that had a mistake somewhere.  Does
this set correct that mistake?





From: Lynch Family <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:26
Subject: Re: Unadorned Origami

Well, that is fine, I like unadorned origami, too. However, I also like
to make minatures and incorporate them into jewelry or other things.
Wearing unadorned paper jewelry is not conducive to said jewelry lasting
very long -- like more than one wearing. Especially if it is given/sold
to someone that doesn't know how to refold it or fix it.

I also like to use papers other than regular kami, and I prefer tissue
foil to wet folding... for one thing I have never gotten the hang of wet
folding... SO, you have to do what you have to do and try not to be too
obnoxious about it -- maybe since everything seems to be smelly just
noxious is the right word :-)

For example, I always try to be as efficient as possible when making
tissue foil so that I don't have to use more spray than necessary and
make enough minatures to dip/coat all at one time so that I don't gas
out everyone longer than I need to...

Dee

Dorothy Engleman wrote:
>
> I'd like to sing the praises of naked origami, unadorned by resins,
> polyurethane, laquers, etc. I like my origami to look like origami and
> not like some porcelain trinket.   So it won't last forever, and you'll
> have to periodically refold and replace it.  Is not the nature of  our
> artform ephemeral?
>
> Dorothy





From: Lynch Family <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:26
Subject: Re: Unadorned Origami

Another note about the toxic qualities of the sprays, etc., and some of
you may jump on this, it is not based on any scientific study or
anything, but it semms to me that the pollutin created by one person
using a resin or a spray adhesive (especially if they are able to use it
is a hood or something) is FAR outweighed by the pollution and toxins
put out by that same person's car driving to the grocery store. Vranted
if EVERYONE used resins and sprays everyday, it could become a real
problem (the reason sprays no longer have whatever it was they used to
have to make them spray well that was killing the ozone layer). I just
don't see how a very small overall population using these materials can
be all that detrimental.

> my point was that chemicalizing our gentle hobby by adding toxic
> coatings was not particularly gentle to our environment and our lungs.

and as for not minding replacing your jewelry, that is ok, too. But when
I sell something to someone else, I don't want them angry with me
because they paid for earrings they can only wera a couple of times
before they're trashed.

Dee





From: Lynch Family <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:26
Subject: BARF

Nope. Have you?

> BARF
> Anyone seen the Winter 2000 issue yet?





From: Lumetronics <anool@BOM3.VSNL.NET.IN>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:30
Subject: Re: Imaginary Models

Does a Mobius Strip qualify ?

In one particular direction, you can move forever without crossing an edge.
On humble garden variety papers, sooner or later, you reach an edge.

As Ross says, if this doesn't make sense, just press DEL.

Anool J M : anool@lumetron.com

LUMETRONICS
B44, Giriraj Estate, Mahakali Road, Andheri (E), Mumbai 400093, MH, INDIA
Ph.: + 91 22 8202170
Fax: + 91 22 8360730
Email: lumetron@vsnl.com
Website: http://www.lumetron.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Cooper <Zxenor@AOL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 9:22 AM
Subject: Imaginary Models

> this is going to sounds REALLY weird but...bear with me
>
> For those of you that know about imaginary numbers (square root of -1, i,
> etc...)  I was wondering if there was a model that somehow represented
> imaginary numbers (example:  mandelbrot set?).  For those of you that have
NO
> CLUE what i'm talking about, just don't even try to understand it and
delete
> this e-mail because it probably won't make much sense anyways...
>
>       -Ross Cooper





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:31
Subject: Re: "New" Kawasaki Rose Help!

Dr. Joel Hoffman asks:

>I remember one set of diagrams that had a mistake somewhere.  Does
>this set correct that mistake?

    No! The horizontal and vertical mountain folds shown in step 24 should
actually be one grid line lower and to the right, respectively. The diagonal
remains the same.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:35
Subject: Re: BARF

I asked:

>> BARF
>> Anyone seen the Winter 2000 issue yet?

Dee replied:

>Nope. Have you?

Negatory, that's why I asked!

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:39
Subject: Re: Unadorned Origami

In a message dated 2/10/2000 10:31:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM writes:

> SO, you have to do what you have to do and try not to be too
>  obnoxious about it -- maybe since everything seems to be smelly just
>  noxious is the right word :-)

Well, actually, I thing the root for the word "noxious" means harmful,
rather than smelly. The same root as "innocent" meaning "harmless",
-noc-/-nox- from a Latin verb, I think.

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura





From: Mark Plant <mplant@UK.ORACLE.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:41
Subject: Re: "New" Kawasaki Rose Help!

My understanding is that this is THE diagram of this rose, so I guess if
there is one with an error, this is it !

I have used it to successfully learn to make the thing, so if it has any
mistakes, they are not show-stoppers.

Regards

Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: Dr. Joel M. Hoffman <mailto:joel@EXC.COM>
To: <mailto:ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 2:49 PM
Subject: "New" Kawasaki Rose Help!

> >For those wondering what this is all about, go to
> >
> >   http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Files/PDF/rose.pdf
>
> I remember one set of diagrams that had a mistake somewhere.  Does
> this set correct that mistake?





From: Rev Dr Michael Gabby <grace@2FORDS.NET>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:57
Subject: Re: Origami and Spirituality, Part Two

There is an enormous difference between western and eastern meditation.
Simply stated, in the east, one empties themselves; they think of nothing.
In the west, one focuses on one thing to the exclusion of all other things.

I use origami as one way of quieting my mind. I am forced to remember the
folds; I forget the things that normally occupy my mind. The more complex
the creation -- the more I must give all my thoughts to the model.

Pax et Bonum
Mike Gabby





From: Lynch Family <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 11:03
Subject: Re: Can anyone help?

I have been teaching various places (libraries, elementary schools,
etc.) for 5 or 6 years now, and have found that while a lot of people
are familiar with the traditional crane and frog they get completely
stumped and frustrated trying to fold it... the petal folds especially.
I think I would avoid these models at the moment for kids and people
with limited dexterity. Once the kids are more experienced you can try
those models.

Remember that what seems very easy for you will seem much more difficult
for kids (some even have troubles understanding the preliminary and
waterbomb base). I have found that the simpler the better to start
with... no reverse folds, no "fancy" stuff (petal folds, eg. Squashes
seem to be okay as long as they are a uniform squash.) The piano and the
houuse are okay.

You might start out with the cat (dog) that seems omnipresent in
packages of ori paper. Yes -- I know that is WAY simple, but younger
kids love it! (Actually so do adults. Adults just don't stay fascinated
with it as long) AND, when you're making the dog fold *both* diagonals
and when you push in on the ears, the dog will "bark." (White side up
and valley fold both diagonals)

Kids *love* action stuff - just be sure to plan time for them to play
with it (and that generally means you teach less)! IN addition to the
models I have already mentions, I like the "Yacht" in the Biddle's book
"Amazing Origami for Children" (unfortunately out of print, if you can't
find it in a library, let me know, or perhaps someone knows where else
you can find diagrams, I think it is a traditional model), "Cootie
Catchers" ("Salt Cellar," "Fortune Teller" are alternate names) are fun,
as are bangers and hats (I like to have newsprint or wrapping paper
squares on hand to fold hats, then the kids can actually wear them).

> I'm teaching origami at a clinic for children with Juvenile Rheumatoid
> >> Arthritis in a few weeks.  Any suggestions for folds that are 1) simple
> >> -that is they don't require too much manual dexterity and 2) visually
> >> rewarding?  Does anyone out there have experience teaching either adults
> >> or children with dexterity problems?
> >>
> >> Any information or suggestions would be appreciated.





From: Spider Barbour <spider@ULSTER.NET>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 11:46
Subject: Re: Can anyone help?

Dear Friends --  Deg Farrelly has the diagrams for a wonderful and simple
jumping frog from a 3x5 index card.  It has great springing action.  I plan
to teach it at my library club on Saturday.

http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/6075

While you're there, check out the diagrams for Deg's Optiscope.  It was
mentioned recently on this list and I folded it a couple of days ago.  A
fine, fun model.  I tried thin silver foil paper in 6 inch/15 cm size.  Deg
suggests using 10"/25 cm, and foil with a bit more weight to it.  I'll try
this next.
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/6075/scope.jpg

Anita F. Barbour





From: David Taylor <dataylor@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 12:33
Subject: Coatings

Has anyone tried decoupage techniques? Decoupage was popular quite a few
years ago; you'd paste a picture to an attractive wooden plaque, coat it
several times with what amounted to a watered-down glue, & then seal it
with a single layer of something that probably was best used outdoors.
Would this work? I imagine you could still find decoupage supplies in craft
stores.
--Elise

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
(Jim Elliot)





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 10 Feb 2000 12:50
Subject: Fold Your Arms: Materials for Folding Reviewed, Part One

I should like to thank all of those subscribers TO Origami-L  who responded
to my posting on 7th February, 2000 about the materials which can be used for
origami. I have also incorporated ideas which I found in the alt.arts.origami
and  rec.arts.origami newsgroups. Confining my elf for the moment to foldable
materials that can be used for practical origami, (however ludicrous some of
the notions may seem)  the following are some of the suggested additions to
my list:

Filo pastry or dough (although this should probably be included under
"pastry").
Plastic mesh,
Metal mesh,
Wood veneer and wood shavings. (Probably these are variants of the same
thing.)
Gold leaf ( but perhaps this should be included in "metal foil")
Leaves
Ribbon (but is this not a variety of cloth, paper or plastic?)

Dorigami contributed a long list: napkins, scarves. laundry, money, printed
brochures, travel brochures, magazine covers, paper grocery bags, gift wrap,
candy wrappers, coffee filters. She also added in a postscript: "fruit bark
that you buy in rolls at the grocery." (This has me baffled: I don't think we
have that in England, but perhaps someone will put me right.) To Dorigami's
list I would add, in the same category, tea bags, or rather the little
packets that tea bags come in which are very popular for folding in Holland
and also, I understand, with some folders in the United States.

With every respect and grateful thanks to Dorigami, however, all these
materials come under the heading "paper" or "cloth".  (fruit bark may be an
exception when I know what it is.) The kind of things I was thinking of were
basic kinds of material.

I was greatly impressed by Kenny Kawamura's tour de force in which he listed
not only tangible things like rubber balloons, leaves, cords, wood, metal and
"mathematical objects", but also abstract concepts like computer programming
algorithms, catastrophe theory, and optics, not to mention imaginary science
fiction speculations.

All very fascinating, but, again, I was really trying to think of basic
materials which could be used for  practical origami. Like Dorigami, Kenny
lists several kinds of paper items and sources of paper suitable for folding,
including money, business cards newspapers and magazines. Under "cords" he
lists techniques using cords and yarn, including twining, knotting, tatting
and braiding. These, however, are not materials, but techniques which stand
in their own right on a par with origami.

On the principle that even if your head is in the clouds it's a good idea to
keep your feet on the ground, my own thinking has been confined to materials
to which the folding techniques of mainstream origami (ordinary folding) can
be applied. I am an enthusiast for John S. Smith's illuminating article on
Origami Profiles (see his web site, "Bits of Smith": URL:
http://www.waitrose.com~pureland/)
which has enormously contributed to our understanding of what origami is and
how we regard it. One of the things that John points out is that squares
merge into rectangles and then into paper strips and into ribbons and
eventually into cords or strings.. Everyone draws his own boundary somewhere
along this line But, important though this concept may be, this line  of
progression soon diverges from mainstream origami.  I know that making
animals and other things by twisting long balloons is sometimes called
balloon-folding or even balloon-origami, but here I again, I think it is a
bit too far removed from mainstream origami for this present exercise.

One or two people have mentioned the squares of mesh that are now comercially
 available for folding. Joseph Wu suggested metal mesh and also rayon mesh.
Another word that may be relevant is "gauze". When I included "net" in my
list, I did, indeed,have in mind the net or mesh origami squares which can
now be bought from suppliers of origami paper.  But it does focus one's
attention on just what we mean by "net", "mesh" or "gauze". I have a specimen
of the squares of the commercially produced origami net which I picked up at
a convention, but I am unable to lay may hands on it, so for the moment I
cannot examine its structure. I had presumed it was made like twine fishing
net, made by a kind of knotting or twisting technique, something like simple
lace. On the other hand, it could be made by punching holes in a fine fabric
or some other material. It seems that the concepts "net" and "mesh" are more
confusing than I had supposed, even without going into their mathematical
menings. In addition, mesh can also be made by loose weaving, which is, I
believe, the usual construction of metal meshes as used in old-fashioned
fly-swatters and in some kitchen strainers. Depending exactly on what you
mean by "rayon mesh", it may, I think, made by knitting or moulding . Mesh
made of plastic, of which rayon, like nylon, is surely a variety, may be
moulded or stamped.

If we permutate all the materials and all the methods of making nets or
meshes we will end up with an unmanageable list. I propose to limit the
selection to the following:

twisted fabric netting or mesh,
woven fabric netting or mesh,
knitted fabric netting or mesh,
woven metal mesh,
perforated metal mesh,
moulded plastic mesh
and
perforated plastic mesh.

John Andrisan said that he had folded a Saar Star made from a "wonton" sheet.
It sounds unsavoury to me! But what exactly is a "wonton" sheet? Christoper
Holt also suggested "wantons" and also "tortillas", which I believe is  kind
of Mexican pancake. Are wanton sheets and tortillas both pancakes and if so
do they need to be included separately?

Very appropriately for an origami list, Julius Kusserow suggested adding the
blintz, which gave its name to one of the accepted basic folds. But a blintz
is surely a kind of pancake with a filling, whether it is folded with corners
to the centre like an origami blintz fold or by rolling it lengthways and
then folding the ends underneath. Which way does Julius fold his blintzes? (I
am interested in this because it has a bearing on the origin of the term
"blintz fold".) Julius also suggested thin vegetables used to decorate food,
including radishes in Japan. What vegetables are these and are they really
folded? I am aware of decoratively sliced fruits and vegetables such as
peaches and radishes used in "nouvelle cuisine", but slicing is not folding.

Bimal Ramesh Desai  (who also mentioned mesh squares) folded cranes from filo
dough. I originally considered filo dough (known as filo pastry in England)
to come into the category of pastry generally, but perhaps it is somewhat
different, being made up of several very thin layers, so I propose to list it
separately.

Continued in Part 2.





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 10 Feb 2000 12:50
Subject: Fold Your Arms: Materials for Folding Reviewed. Part Two.

Part 2, continued from part 1:

While other people have been contributing ideas to the list I have myself
come up with a few additions of my own. I realised that my biggest omission
was celluloid, to which, perhaps, cellophane and "cling film" may be linked,
though I doubt if one would have much joy trying to fold these flimsy
materials. On the other hand, it might be possible to make special use of the
self-adherent properties of "cling film". Bimai Ramesh Desai also mentioned
David Brill's ship in a bottle made from transparent plastic. Is modern
transparent plastic the same as celluloid or are they different substances?
There is also a heavier kind of white translucent plastic sheeting which is
used for lampshades and which I have actually seen  used for origami
creations at exhibitions at origami conventions. I do not know what it is
called. Perhaps someone can tell me.

Like Kennie Kawamura, I also thought of wood veneers and leaves as materials
for folding. Palm fronds and similar long leaves from other plants are,
indeed, widely used for folding, not only for decorative, but also for
practical purposes. So are the corn husks of the maize plant. There are
several books on this subject. I expect, too, that an artistic cook could
make a decoratively attractive origami meal out of lettuce leaves or even
cabbage leaves or the like.

I have mentioned parchment, which is a kind of skin. But there are other
kinds of skin, not least snake skin, shark skin and fish skin which are very
fashionable for clothing accessories with some people. Other true papers that
I have though of which should, perhaps be included are rice paper and onion
skin. Grease-proof paper (which is very useful for some kinds of folding) and
blotting paper are also sufficiently distinct papers for them to be listed
separately. Some kinds of bark, as from certain species of birch trees can be
folded. And in the edible field, I have thought that sliced cheese (the soft
processed variety would fold best) and slices of smoked salmon might be used
for folding, possibly as part of an origami meal. (Now ther'san idea!)
Perhaps sliced bacon and ham, too! Finally, at the other extreme,  molten
glass is very capable of manipulation by expert glass blowers, so I think
that sheets of semi-viscous molten glass could be used, if not to fold
souvenir Black Forest Cuckoo Clocks in glass, then at least to fold simpler
"pure land" kinds of model!

Behind all this seemingly pointless conjecture, I do have a more serious
purpose. My intention is to extend the scope of the way folders think about
foldable materials. It is not possible to include everything that could
possibly be folded, but a representative selection may encourage folders to
experiment and enlarge our vision of origami.
So my intention has been restricted to pliable plane materials capable of
being used for mainstream origami. On the other hand, as Kenny Kawamura has
suggested, the idea of  "folding" extends  far beyond mainstream origami and
I have myself mentioned the folding of geological strata and of petals in the
bud. The crumpling patterns of a cylinder collapsing under pressure have been
shown to be similar to the patterns of paperfolding.  We even fold our arms
and if we find kneeling at a Japanese meal uncomfortable, we will fold our
legs under us. The word "folding" may be applied to linked rods and other
linked mechanical structures such as those used by satellite scientists to
enable large devices to be folded up and packed into rockets before opening
up in space. At the Second International Meeting of International Origami in
Utsu in Japan in 1994 we were given a fascinating presentation on the
construction of a large covered stadium by an extraordinarily clever method
of folding in which the upper parts of the oval outer walls folded inwards to
be locked into position by the descending central part of the roof, which had
been previously raised above the height of the walls. The final crucial
operation actually took place at the time of the Meeting and we were invited
to go to see it. I wonder whether any paperfolders really did manage to tear
themselves away from the Meeting in order to watch it happen.

The following  is the list of foldable materials which I listed in my
previous posting:

Paper                      Plastic sheet            Pancakes
Tissue paper            Rubber sheet            Omelettes
Crepe paper                                      Pastry
Thin card                  Forbon "paper            Pasta
Papyrus                Tyvek "paper"
                                                      Rolled ceramic clay
Paper-backed foil     Leather                  Ceramic paper
Paper-sandwiched      Parchment
foil                           Vellum                   Felt
Sheet metal                                     Woven fabric
                                                      Knitted fabric
                                                      Net

The following are the additional categories I am thinking of adding:

Twisted fabric netting or mesh          Reptile and fish skins
Woven fabric netting or mesh            Bark
Knitted fabric netting or mesh          Leaves and corn husks
Perforated metal mesh                       Wood veneer
Perforated plastic mesh                Sliced cheese
Mould plastic mesh                          Sliced fish
Transparent plastic sheet                    (e.g. smoked salmon)
(including celluloid)                           Sliced meat
Cellophane
Cling film                                        Gold leaf

Semi-viscous molten glass

When I have completed my list, I hope to place it on the Web somewhere, where
it may be consulted by folders. Perhaps Nick Robinson will permit me to add
it to the pieces I have on the BOS web site. While my primary list would
certainly be a list of materials for mainstream origami, I could also add a
supplementary list of foldable materials in the wider sense, both real,
theoretical and imaginary.

In particular I should like information on the following points:

1.  What is Fruit Bark?

2.  What is the structure of the squares of netting which can be bought for
origami?

3.  What is a "wanton" sheet?

4.  What are totillas made of?

4.  Is the kitchen-wrap known in the UK as "Cling film" known by that name or
some other in North America?

5.  What is the name of the stiffish white translucent plastic sheeting used
for lampshades?

6.  What is the name of the modern version of celluloid?

By the way, Im sorry if the tabulation of my lists has gone awry in the e
-mail. I hope you can still make them out.

Please let me hear from anyone who has any further suggestions, corrections
or clarifications for either list.

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com.

10th February,2000.





From: slickwillie@MYLAPTOP.COM
Date: 10 Feb 2000 13:08
Subject: Re: Fold Your Arms: Materials for Folding Reviewed. Part Two.

Make shure to add acetate as a material used for folding.  I did
manage to fold Tom Stamm's Dragon from a 9" square sheet of
clear acetate.

> Part 2, continued from part 1:
>
> While other people have been contributing ideas to the list I have myself
> come up with a few additions of my own. I realised that my biggest omission
> was celluloid, to which, perhaps, cellophane and "cling film" may be linked,
> though I doubt if one would have much joy trying to fold these flimsy
> materials. On the other hand, it might be possible to make special use of the
> self-adherent properties of "cling film". Bimai Ramesh Desai also mentioned
> David Brill's ship in a bottle made from transparent plastic. Is modern
> transparent plastic the same as celluloid or are they different substances?
> There is also a heavier kind of white translucent plastic sheeting which is
> used for lampshades and which I have actually seen  used for origami
> creations at exhibitions at origami conventions. I do not know what it is
> called. Perhaps someone can tell me.
>
> Like Kennie Kawamura, I also thought of wood veneers and leaves as materials
> for folding. Palm fronds and similar long leaves from other plants are,
> indeed, widely used for folding, not only for decorative, but also for
> practical purposes. So are the corn husks of the maize plant. There are
> several books on this subject. I expect, too, that an artistic cook could
> make a decoratively attractive origami meal out of lettuce leaves or even
> cabbage leaves or the like.
>
> I have mentioned parchment, which is a kind of skin. But there are other
> kinds of skin, not least snake skin, shark skin and fish skin which are very
> fashionable for clothing accessories with some people. Other true papers that
> I have though of which should, perhaps be included are rice paper and onion
> skin. Grease-proof paper (which is very useful for some kinds of folding) and
> blotting paper are also sufficiently distinct papers for them to be listed
> separately. Some kinds of bark, as from certain species of birch trees can be
> folded. And in the edible field, I have thought that sliced cheese (the soft
> processed variety would fold best) and slices of smoked salmon might be used
> for folding, possibly as part of an origami meal. (Now ther'san idea!)
> Perhaps sliced bacon and ham, too! Finally, at the other extreme,  molten
> glass is very capable of manipulation by expert glass blowers, so I think
> that sheets of semi-viscous molten glass could be used, if not to fold
> souvenir Black Forest Cuckoo Clocks in glass, then at least to fold simpler
> "pure land" kinds of model!
>
> Behind all this seemingly pointless conjecture, I do have a more serious
> purpose. My intention is to extend the scope of the way folders think about
> foldable materials. It is not possible to include everything that could
> possibly be folded, but a representative selection may encourage folders to
> experiment and enlarge our vision of origami.
> So my intention has been restricted to pliable plane materials capable of
> being used for mainstream origami. On the other hand, as Kenny Kawamura has
> suggested, the idea of  "folding" extends  far beyond mainstream origami and
> I have myself mentioned the folding of geological strata and of petals in the
> bud. The crumpling patterns of a cylinder collapsing under pressure have been
> shown to be similar to the patterns of paperfolding.  We even fold our arms
> and if we find kneeling at a Japanese meal uncomfortable, we will fold our
> legs under us. The word "folding" may be applied to linked rods and other
> linked mechanical structures such as those used by satellite scientists to
> enable large devices to be folded up and packed into rockets before opening
> up in space. At the Second International Meeting of International Origami in
> Utsu in Japan in 1994 we were given a fascinating presentation on the
> construction of a large covered stadium by an extraordinarily clever method
> of folding in which the upper parts of the oval outer walls folded inwards to
> be locked into position by the descending central part of the roof, which had
> been previously raised above the height of the walls. The final crucial
> operation actually took place at the time of the Meeting and we were invited
> to go to see it. I wonder whether any paperfolders really did manage to tear
> themselves away from the Meeting in order to watch it happen.
>
> The following  is the list of foldable materials which I listed in my
> previous posting:
>
> Paper                      Plastic sheet            Pancakes
> Tissue paper            Rubber sheet            Omelettes
> Crepe paper                                      Pastry
> Thin card                  Forbon "paper            Pasta
> Papyrus                Tyvek "paper"
>                                                       Rolled ceramic clay
> Paper-backed foil     Leather                  Ceramic paper
> Paper-sandwiched      Parchment
> foil                           Vellum                   Felt
> Sheet metal                                     Woven fabric
>                                                       Knitted fabric
>                                                       Net
>
> The following are the additional categories I am thinking of adding:
>
> Twisted fabric netting or mesh          Reptile and fish skins
> Woven fabric netting or mesh            Bark
> Knitted fabric netting or mesh          Leaves and corn husks
> Perforated metal mesh                       Wood veneer
> Perforated plastic mesh                Sliced cheese
> Mould plastic mesh                          Sliced fish
> Transparent plastic sheet                    (e.g. smoked salmon)
> (including celluloid)                           Sliced meat
> Cellophane
> Cling film                                        Gold leaf
>
> Semi-viscous molten glass
>
> When I have completed my list, I hope to place it on the Web somewhere, where
> it may be consulted by folders. Perhaps Nick Robinson will permit me to add
> it to the pieces I have on the BOS web site. While my primary list would
> certainly be a list of materials for mainstream origami, I could also add a
> supplementary list of foldable materials in the wider sense, both real,
> theoretical and imaginary.
>
> In particular I should like information on the following points:
>
> 1.  What is Fruit Bark?
>
> 2.  What is the structure of the squares of netting which can be bought for
> origami?
>
> 3.  What is a "wanton" sheet?
>
> 4.  What are totillas made of?
>
> 4.  Is the kitchen-wrap known in the UK as "Cling film" known by that name or
> some other in North America?
>
> 5.  What is the name of the stiffish white translucent plastic sheeting used
> for lampshades?
>
> 6.  What is the name of the modern version of celluloid?
>
> By the way, Im sorry if the tabulation of my lists has gone awry in the e
> -mail. I hope you can still make them out.
>
> Please let me hear from anyone who has any further suggestions, corrections
> or clarifications for either list.
>
> David Lister.
>
> Grimsby, England.
>
> DLister891@AOL.com.
>
> 10th February,2000.





From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Julia_P=E1lffy?= <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 13:17
Subject: Re: Model question - 3D Tree

Julius Kusserow wrote:
I'm looking for a non-xmas, non-palm tree (model).

You should try Vincent Floderer's trees, if you don't mind getting them from
crumpling paper rather than regular folding...

Julia (new addict to paper crumpling) Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Doug Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 13:50
Subject: Origami Vegas Mindspace

Just completed a two night stay in Las Vegas.  It is an incredible city,
with spectacles on every hand.  Also with enticements to gamble, drink, and
buy way more than I intended to.  I made tip origami, and found that folding
something brought me back to myself.  It gave me a space where I was immune
to the call of flashing lights and clacking machines.  So we got out of
Vegas, having risked no more than we intended to, and, due to catching a
fortunate fluctuation in the probability functions, somewhat ahead.

So I made a point of including something simple with all my tips.  And our
service people seemed to appreciate it, too!

Anna





From: Doug Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 13:50
Subject: Re: Unadorned Origami

>
> Having found an ideal, acid free paper, just the right thickness and
> texture, obtained from the hide of the Spiney anteaster, blended with giant
> panda saliva, I intend to foil-back this paper. Does anyone know of any
> alloy which has an incredibly low level of chemical reactivity and an almost
> infinate half-life?
>
> Yours non-ephemrally,
>
> Stephen
>
> PS : NASA are currently working on the spray glue.

Well, it's not an alloy, but it's highly non-reactive, and since it's not
radioactive, you could call the half-life infinite -- gold leaf should do
just fine.

And after the expense you went to to get the paper, I think you'll find it
refreshingly cheap, too!

What makes giant pandas drool?  The chance to pose for portraits by Lang,
Yoshizawa, and LaFosse!

Anna





From: Doug Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 13:50
Subject: Trade small green paper for?

Well, dragon season is over, and I'm wanting to fold flowers again.  But I
have found that my supply of small green papers is pretty much depleted from
last year's flower folding.  The other colors are piling up.  Anyone
interested in trading small green squares for other colors or for something
else?  I need pieces less than 3" square -- 1", 1.5", 2", 2.25", or
whatever, especially in the grass green color, but can use pale green and
bluish green as well.  If you're interested in trading, please email me
privately with what would interest you in return.  I have some attractive
larger squares that I cut from wrapping paper as well, mostly in the 6"
size, but some larger.

Thanks,
Anna





From: Doug Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 14:13
Subject: Re: Fold Your Arms: Materials for Folding Reviewed. Part Two.

> In particular I should like information on the following points:
>
> 1.  What is Fruit Bark?
>
> 2.  What is the structure of the squares of netting which can be bought for
> origami?
>
> 3.  What is a "wanton" sheet?
>
> 4.  What are totillas made of?
>
> 4.  Is the kitchen-wrap known in the UK as "Cling film" known by that name or
> some other in North America?
>
> 5.  What is the name of the stiffish white translucent plastic sheeting used
> for lampshades?
>
> 6.  What is the name of the modern version of celluloid?
>

> David Lister.
>
> Grimsby, England.
>
> DLister891@AOL.com.
>
> 10th February,2000.

I can help with some of these.
1)  Fruit bark, also known as fruit leather, is made by concentrating and
dehydrating fruit puree, often with additional sugar, until it reaches a
leathery consistency.  It is made in flat sheets, and often sold in small
rectangles as a snack.  It's rather sticky.  I haven't tried folding it.

3) Wonton sheets, or wonton wrappers, come in square or round forms, usually
frozen.  They are somewhat pasta-like.  They are traditionally filled with a
meat mixture, closed, and boiled to make a Chinese dumpling called a wonton.

4) Tortillas are traditionally thin, round and formed from ground corn
(maize), but can also be made from wheat flour with some additional fat (oil
or lard.)  They fold well when moist and warm, but tend to crack if folded
dry and/or cold.  They are unlike pancakes, because they are not squishy or
sweet.

4)  I more often call it plastic wrap (or Saran Wrap, after the most popular
brand), but cling film gets the meaning across.

Ah, just come visit, and I'll get you samples of all the foods!

Anna





From: Atsina <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 14:32
Subject: Re: Fold Your Arms: Materials for Folding Reviewed. Part Two.

Anna wrote:

1)  Fruit bark, also known as fruit leather, is made by concentrating and
> dehydrating fruit puree, often with additional sugar, until it reaches a
> leathery consistency.  It is made in flat sheets, and often sold in small
> rectangles as a snack.  It's rather sticky.  I haven't tried folding it.
>

We used to make fruit bark out of fruit from our garden. If you add no sugar and
really dry the puree out it is not too sticky. Folds well. Very decorative.

Kim





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 15:45
Subject: Back in operation!

Hi Folks,

Sorry my web page was down for a few days but I think my ISP was
caught in the backlash from all of the crashes that have been
going on for the last few days.
It's back up now!  And I have been busy I rediagrammed the odd
duck into a pdf file file which is much easier to read and a
whole lot easier to understand (I fixed the errors) and there is
a good picture of it on the site, actually a scan photo, it came
out well!  Then for those of you looking for a good simple
teaching model I have redone entirely the Chrysalis so that it
is easier to understand and it now describes the action of each
model if you wish to use them as action models (and what child
doesn't?).  Finally I know its silly but I rediagrammed the
chair to pdf.  Little by little I am going to put everything of
mine into pdf acrobat format.  And I will try to use more
pictures of the finished item when I can!

Thanks!

Perry
--
"Hope is a little thing
with feathers
perched in the soul all day,
it does it's little business
and then it flies away!"

Victor Buono from "It could be verse"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!
Icq 23622644





From: Casida Mark <casida@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 15:51
Subject: Re: Imaginary Models

Ross Cooper tried to stretch our imagination with :

> this is going to sounds REALLY weird but...bear with me
>
> For those of you that know about imaginary numbers (square root of -1, i,
> etc...)  I was wondering if there was a model that somehow represented
> imaginary numbers (example:  mandelbrot set?).  For those of you that have NO
> CLUE what i'm talking about, just don't even try to understand it and delete
> this e-mail because it probably won't make much sense anyways...

Hmmmm.... What type of origami would you associate with counting numbers?
I usually think of origami having more to do with geometry (form) than
with numbers (analysis) but I like to have my imagination stretched.

  Let's try to get a bit deeper into this.  We all know how to fold
paper in half.  Some of us even know how to fold paper into thirds.
Are those counting numbers?

  And what about the golden ratio?  There's a square root of 5 in there
(not that I've ever seen it, but it's there in the theory).  If we get into
folds that lead to ratios arising as roots of polynomials, then we might
even get into complex roots.  Is this a root to an origami representation
of i?

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimie.umontreal.ca           |





From: "Edward J. Crankshaw II" <ejcranks@HIWAAY.NET>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 16:55
Subject: Another Extra Origami Book

Good day all,

My sister sent me a copy of "Origami For Christmas" by Araki, Chiyo that she
     found in
a box of stuff. I already have a copy and would be willing to part with it to
     someone
who would really like to have it. While I won't ask anything for it, if someone
     would
like to trade it for an extra book of theirs or a packet of 10" origami paper, I
wouldn't mind. The book is in good condition.

I'm located in the U.S. (Alabama) and will give it to the first person who
     *really*
wants it. ;)

Ed

mailto:ejcranks@hiwaay.net





From: THOKI YENN <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 19:31
Subject: Sv:      Re: Imaginary Models

          Mark E. Casida
|          e-mail: casida@chimie.umontreal.ca
          asked

>And what about the golden ratio?  There's a square root of 5 in there
> (not that I've ever seen it, but it's there in the theory

You can see "Square root of 5"  as the diagonal in a half square ( 1 X 2 )
 and you can also see how to fold the golden ratio at

http://www.thok.dk/goldrec.html

Regards from The Great and Glorious Kalmon of the North
kalmon@thok.dk





From: "Michael J. Naughton" <mjnaught@CROCKER.COM>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 20:17
Subject: Re: Origami and Spirituality, Part Two

Kenny1414 wrote:

> Are you sure you're not thinking of "Satori", the
> "enlightenment" experience that is central to Zen
> Buddhism?

Actually, no -- I'm not sure at all. . . .

MikeN





From: Dan Gries <dangries@MATH.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Date: 10 Feb 2000 21:46
Subject: Re: Sv:      Re: Imaginary Models

ok, i would like to state for the record that i am a mathematician,
and i would rather fold bunnies.

-dan
