




From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 04 Feb 2000 15:47
Subject: Re: Sonobe and Buckyballs

I should like to say how grateful I am to Tom Hull for pointing to his web
page on "Combintorial Geometry." It's much more exciting than the title might
suggest. Tom uses modular origami to give his students a hands-on approach to
the subject. I urge everyone to have a look. The URL, again is:

http://www.merrimack.edu/~thull/combgeom/bucky/buckynotes.html

But there's more than just Tom's own contribution. Links lead to  the website
of George W. Hart, an enthusiast for polyhedra made from paper and wood and
also from a commercially available polyhedra construction kit called
"Zoomtool". While I haven't yet experienced Zoomtool, it has every appearance
of making the construction of polyhedra much easier than any previous
technique. It will be excellent for preliminary forays into polyhedra by
modular origami enthusiasts.  A link is provided to the manufacturers from
whom kits of a variety of sizes suitable for everyone from young children to
advanced reserchers can be obtained.

George W. Hart's homepage is at:  http://www.georgehart.com/

And more: George Hart provides an extensive annotated ten-page bibliography
of polyhedra, which I think is the best I have ever seen. The range extends
from elementary to advanced,, and many, if not most books are
well-illustrated and are suitable for the general reader. The bibliography
covers every aspect of polyhedra and also symmetry, crystallography,
arcitectural design using polyhedra, the art of M.C.Escher and modular
origami. Books by several well-known modular folders, most of them familiar
as subscribers to Origami-L, are included.

For those impatient for immediate access to  Geore Hart's references, the URL
is:

http://www.georgehart.com/visual-polyhedra/references.html

Many thanks to Tom Hull. Merrimack College is very fortunate to have him on
its staff as we are to have him as a subscriber.

David Lister





From: "John R. Mizell" <superj@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Date: 04 Feb 2000 20:27
Subject: Re: Sonobe and Buckyballs

        Actually David the "references" URL should be:

http://www.georgehart.com/virtual-polyhedra/references.html

    with "virtual" instead of "visual". But You're right... he has some
    awesome models displayed on his page(s).

    John

DLister891@AOL.COM wrote:

> I should like to say how grateful I am to Tom Hull for pointing to his web
> page on "Combintorial Geometry." It's much more exciting than the title might
> suggest. Tom uses modular origami to give his students a hands-on approach to
> the subject. I urge everyone to have a look. The URL, again is:
>
> http://www.merrimack.edu/~thull/combgeom/bucky/buckynotes.html
>
> But there's more than just Tom's own contribution. Links lead to  the website
> of George W. Hart, an enthusiast for polyhedra made from paper and wood and
> also from a commercially available polyhedra construction kit called
> "Zoomtool". While I haven't yet experienced Zoomtool, it has every appearance
> of making the construction of polyhedra much easier than any previous
> technique. It will be excellent for preliminary forays into polyhedra by
> modular origami enthusiasts.  A link is provided to the manufacturers from
> whom kits of a variety of sizes suitable for everyone from young children to
> advanced reserchers can be obtained.
>
> George W. Hart's homepage is at:  http://www.georgehart.com/
>
> And more: George Hart provides an extensive annotated ten-page bibliography
> of polyhedra, which I think is the best I have ever seen. The range extends
> from elementary to advanced,, and many, if not most books are
> well-illustrated and are suitable for the general reader. The bibliography
> covers every aspect of polyhedra and also symmetry, crystallography,
> arcitectural design using polyhedra, the art of M.C.Escher and modular
> origami. Books by several well-known modular folders, most of them familiar
> as subscribers to Origami-L, are included.
>
> For those impatient for immediate access to  Geore Hart's references, the URL
> is:
>
> http://www.georgehart.com/visual-polyhedra/references.html
>
> Many thanks to Tom Hull. Merrimack College is very fortunate to have him on
> its staff as we are to have him as a subscriber.
>
> David Lister





From: "<Jason Ng>" <PhantomJN@AOL.COM>
Date: 04 Feb 2000 21:02
Subject: WHAT IS Skillman's Jackstone???

PLEASE!!!SOmeone tell me what it is and where i can get diagrams....I NEED TO
HAVE THESE, THEY SEEM SO DESIREABLE!!!

                                                -Kin Wai





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 04 Feb 2000 23:01
Subject: New model

Hi folks!

I just put up that second model I promised for this month, its
just below Erralee's Cobra bookmark (my mamma tol' me never
upstage family!), It's called Throw your heart away.  You never
know it just might turn around and fly right back at you!
That's right it's an airplane with heart!  and a handle!  if you
don't want it to turn around and come back at all just use a
little longer piece of paper.  Well have fun and fly safely!

Perry
--
"Hope is a little thing
with feathers
perched in the soul all day,
it does it's little business
and then it flies away!"

Victor Buono from "It could be verse"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!
Icq 23622644





From: Lumetronics <anool@BOM3.VSNL.NET.IN>
Date: 04 Feb 2000 23:03
Subject: Re: WHAT IS Skillman's Jackstone???

A 3D fold, like a cube stuck with square pyramids on all its 6 faces. Robert
Harbins Origami Book 2 has it, if you can lay your hands on it.

Anool : anool@lumetron.com

LUMETRONICS
B44, Giriraj Estate, Mahakali Road, Andheri (E), Mumbai 400093, MH, INDIA
Ph.: + 91 22 8202170
Fax: + 91 22 8360730
Email: lumetron@vsnl.com
Website: http://www.lumetron.com

----- Original Message -----
From: <Jason Ng> <PhantomJN@AOL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 7:31 AM
Subject: WHAT IS Skillman's Jackstone???

> PLEASE!!!SOmeone tell me what it is and where i can get diagrams....I NEED
TO
> HAVE THESE, THEY SEEM SO DESIREABLE!!!
>
>                                                 -Kin Wai





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 05 Feb 2000 05:50
Subject: contributions for the BOS website please...

Hi - you may have noticed the new, improved BOS site, well I'm hoping
you can help make it even better. Yes (insert name) this is your chance
for the eternal gratitude of the origami fraternity.

Send me a contribution! This may be a guide for beginners, a historical
piece devoted to a major folder, tips on folding with foil, in miniature
etc., a critique of the complex vs. simplex debate, why you use
scissors, what's wrong/right with origami today, the golden age of
creativity- has it passed?, a guide to being creative, a bibliography of
the books of J Montroll, diagrams of how to do a sink properly(!),
whatever you fancy.

It doesn't matter if your work appears elsewhere, there's room for
duplication. Don't worry about coding & layout, we have a willing team
of monkeys (sorry volunteers) who can turn your musings into a
masterpiece.

Our aim is to make the BOS site a useful resource for folders everywhere
and this needs the help of everybody - not just the BOS council &
membership, but anyone who loves folding.

Don't forget, alter all your bookmarks to the new address (below)

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    www.britishorigami.org.uk





From: Papa Joe <papajoe@CHORUS.NET>
Date: 05 Feb 2000 09:07
Subject: Re: Black Forest Cuckoo Clock

----- Original Message -----
From: JacAlArt . <jacalart@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: Black Forest Cuckoo Clock

> Actually, they're already diagrammed. Just needs to make some minor
> corrections. I have a copy I received from an unnamed friend. Sure would
> like to see them in an actual bound book though!
>

Hello,
I have enjoyed your $folds!
Are you at liberty to share the diagrams for the Clock?
If so I would be very interested.

Thanks

Joe Gilardi





From: Anine Cleve <anine21@USA.NET>
Date: 05 Feb 2000 14:42
Subject: Re: [Re: Origami Sightings]

Robert Roos <rroos@ALLEG.EDU> wrote:
See http://www.newscientist.com/ for an image of the cover. (Couldn't
locate any other origami images on that Web site.)

I can't find the pics....

Anine

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From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 05 Feb 2000 16:57
Subject: Thoki Yenn's "Scheherezade"

If you have not yet had the pleasure of folding Thoki Yenn's
"Scheherezade", you are in for a thousand and one treats!

http://www.net4tv.com/voice/story.cfm?StoryID=1905

Dorothy, the Origami Swami





From: Elaina Quackenbush <elaina_quackenbush@NETZERO.NET>
Date: 05 Feb 2000 17:01
Subject: How do I find a book?

Hi, I am trying to find a japanese origami book (ok that's a duh!) from
Sanrio.  It has the folds for all the cartoon characters from Hello Kitty to
Batz Maru.  Any ideas how to go about this?

Elaina

__________________________________________
NetZero - Defenders of the Free World
Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at
http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: 05 Feb 2000 17:47
Subject: Crane Flower Author??

I just finished a wonderful Crane Flower. I would appreciate it very
much if someone could help me with the creators name. Below is a
description...

It's a modular model with four units (petals) that are inserted into a
base. Each of the four petals has a little crane on it. It is made from
a square and requires a small cut to fold the crane. If my description
is of no help I have a picture I can send.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Take Care,
Kathy  <*))))><





From: Julie Rhodes <kettir@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: 05 Feb 2000 20:31
Subject: Origami Sighting

I was at the comic shop today and picked up a copy of "Dark Horse Extra" (a
comic advertising paper) dated February 2000.  On the front page is an
Usagi Yojimbo comic featuring a character folding the classic crane.  Also
on the page is a picture of young Usagi wearing a folded paper hat.  I've
placed the images at the following URLs for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.geocities.com/~kettir/usagi1.gif
http://www.geocities.com/~kettir/usagi2.gif

--
kettir at  | Garland of green flowers (field of lime)
geocities  | surround a silver smoke tree (yours and mine)
dot com    | sweet marigold, not easy to find.





From: Yura Lyskow <ylyskow@MAIL.RU>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 02:55
Subject:

Hi. Tell me please, where can I take diagrams of pegasus?
      Yura.





From: Elsje vd Ploeg <evdploeg@BETUWE.NET>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 05:38
Subject: Re: Thoki Yenn's "Scheherezade"

Dear Dorothy,

> Onderwerp: Thoki Yenn's "Scheherezade"

I remember I was sitting next to him in my house
creating an envelope, that inspired him to see
"Scheherezade"

Lovely collumn.

I did not succeed in putting the music
in my e-mail but now I can use several of yours.

Do you also have a new-age music for me?
It must be possible to put it in my homepage,

I prefer you make a text to the double heart.
Is that possible ? I don't have so much energy now.

xxxxxxelsje





From: THOKI YENN <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 09:49
Subject: WEBCAM ?

Dear Friends

I should like to know if any of you have any experience
with WEBCAM from Creative www.creative.com

I bought one recently and it has given me a lot of trouble
I had to format my harddisk and again later remove my new Win 98
and re-install it, and after long struggle got every thing working again.

This WEBCAM took over the commando of MY Computer
and decide that I could not close it normally
after having used the WEBCAM, so even if it took
good pictures while it functioned I had to remove it again.

Test the result at http://www.thok.dk/tangram.html

I would really love to know if any of you know anything about this product.

Thoki Yenn





From: "JacAlArt ." <jacalart@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 11:57
Subject: Re: Black Forest Cuckoo Clock

Mr. Lang has asked me to not make these public as he will be including them
in an upcoming publication. Sorry.
~J

>From: Papa Joe <papajoe@CHORUS.NET>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Black Forest Cuckoo Clock
>Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 07:55:57 -0800
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: JacAlArt . <jacalart@HOTMAIL.COM>
>To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 6:21 AM
>Subject: Re: Black Forest Cuckoo Clock
>
>
> > Actually, they're already diagrammed. Just needs to make some minor
> > corrections. I have a copy I received from an unnamed friend. Sure would
> > like to see them in an actual bound book though!
> >
>
>
>Hello,
>I have enjoyed your $folds!
>Are you at liberty to share the diagrams for the Clock?
>If so I would be very interested.
>
>Thanks
>
>Joe Gilardi

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From: Teik Seong <tkteik@MBOX2.SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:40
Subject: Sibaraku

hi,

        anyone working on the Sibaraku precrease by Hojyo Takeshi in Tanteidan
     #5?
we would love to talk.

Regards,
Teik.
[TK Continent :- http://web.singnet.com.sg/~tkteik]
[ICQ :- 10225773]





From: Erica Knopper <eak@IENG.COM>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 15:01
Subject: jewelry

Hi all,

Thanks for all the useful feedback about sonobe units and the various
spheres that can be constructed thereof.

Here's another question, one that's probably been asked and answered
a million times but unfortunately I wasn't listening (or reading) at
those times:

I'm making some cool origami earrings, etc. and need to make them
waterproof somehow. I know there are some things that can be painted
or sprayed on them but don't know what they are. Any advice? Has
anyone tried painting water based polyurethane on origami and if so,
how did it work? It's great stuff and not toxic, I just don't know if
it works on paper.

Thanks, Erica





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 15:05
Subject: Re: Jackstone instructions

>I looked up the instructions for Skillman's Jackstone in Robert Harb in's
>Origami 2.  I had difficulty followi-folded (four corners to the center)
>on a 10 inch square light foil paper twice on the colored side.  I then
>folded the frog base. ( Fold the preliminary base for the  bird and frog
>base, which leaves the paper square.  Fold upper edges to the diagonal
>center line and squash fold (reverse fold} leaving a pointed  top.  Fold
>in the lower end as one would for the bird base and tuck under the short
>flap in the center of the resulting diamond shape.)  Do this for all four
>sides.
     All of the needed crease lines are now in place.  Open outflatten out
both layers of the folded in blintz folds, back to the original square.
One might first practice on a paper with only a single blintz fold and
refold the center pyramid on the top.  Note that the smooth sode of the
diamond is showing and is flat  .One now needs to fold pyramids with a
square base on each side of the center cube.  The bottom pyramid will have
lots of loose points instead of a single one, but will not be too visible.
James M. Sakoda





From: Faye Goldman <FayeG@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 16:37
Subject: Phila Greater Paper Folders New Meeting Place

  Same time, different place.
The Greater Phila Paper Folders is meeting on the First Monday
of each month, 6:30-9:00pm.
New Place: Havertown PA.  Church on the corner of Earlington Road and
Brookline Blvd. Entrance for folding is from Brookline.
The Church is not too far from City Line (rt 1) and West Chester Pike (rt 3).

Call Faye Goldman (610) 642-2901 or (610) 971-5644  for info.





From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Julia_P=E1lffy?= <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 16:54
Subject: Re: How do I find a book?

Elaina Quackenbush writes:
Hi, I am trying to find a japanese origami book (ok that's a duh!) from
Sanrio.

...

I guess you'd better try to hunt up a librarian who reads Japanese and can
look it up for you... or, if you can find out the address of Sanrio, write
directly to them...

Good luck!

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Ann Calabro <inchargemom@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 18:30
Subject: Re: jewelry

How about acrylic spray?  It comes in convenient spray bottles, like spray
paint...it works for other crafts, maybe it would be good on origami too.
Ann

>From: Erica Knopper <eak@IENG.COM>
>
>I'm making some cool origami earrings, etc. and need to make them
>waterproof somehow. I know there are some things that can be painted
>or sprayed on them but don't know what they are. Any advice? Has
>anyone tried painting water based polyurethane on origami and if so,
>how did it work? It's great stuff and not toxic, I just don't know if
>it works on paper.
>
>Thanks, Erica

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From: "Michael J. Naughton" <mjnaught@CROCKER.COM>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 21:28
Subject: Re: Assembling Modular Origami

I wrote:
>Ah, but I thought pain was what Ross Cooper was looking for!

and then Ross Cooper wrote:
> You're right, I am.  The harder a model is, the more challenged i feel.  I
> love a good challenge.
>
> Lately, i've been folding really small cranes...2cm or less.  It's hard to
> make a quality crane so small and that's why I love it!
>
> -Ross

Sorry not to have replied sooner -- I had some surgery done & have been
recovering for the past couple of weeks.

Anyway, here are a couple more suggestions:

1) 30-pointed star, made from 60 Sonobe units. Each point is two units --
   assemble them as if you are making "Toshie's Jewel", but then fold the
   free flaps (one per module) back out. You then have a point with two
   flaps and two pockets, which can be connected to other points. The trick
   in assembling this is that to insert a flap into a pocket you have to
   apply force from _inside_ the model -- easy enough in the beginning stages,
   but a bit of a trick for the last point!

2) My "Continuum" series (an infinite collection of subtley changing models
   demonstrating the connections between E. D. Sullivan's "XYZ", Robert Neale's
   "Six Piece Ornament", my "Cube from Six Blintz Bases", etc.) has some which
   are rather difficult to construct (once constructed, some stay together well,
   and some don't). If you send an SASE to my snail mail address:
   Michael Naughton
   P.O. Box 239
   Lake Pleasant, MA  01347
   I'll be happy to send you (or anyone) a copy of the crease patterns. . . .





From: "Michael J. Naughton" <mjnaught@CROCKER.COM>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 21:28
Subject: Re: Origami and Spirituality, Part Two

David Lister wrote:

> We do not have to be followers of Zen to realise that our own folding can be
> an encouragement to meditation. Many folders have discovered this as they
> have  folded multiple copies of identical modules for a modular creation . . .

I had the honor of taking a class with Tomoko Fuse several years ago at an OUSA
convention. At one point, she took questions, and someone asked her what she
thought about as she folded all of her modules. Her reply (as best I can recall)
was this: "At first I think of how many modules I have to fold, and how long it
will take, and how many I have left. . . and then, I don't think about
     anything!"

Mike Naughton





From: Pete <pmiller_vball@BIGFOOT.COM>
Date: 06 Feb 2000 23:39
Subject: Re: jewelry

I bought some stuff at Kim's Crane for coating paper to use for Jewelry.  I
don't know the actual name because the bottle is in Japanese.  It seems to
work well.  I made some small roses and mounted them on earring studs for my
daughter and it worked well.
----- Original Message -----
From: Erica Knopper <eak@IENG.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 2:59 PM
Subject: jewelry

> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for all the useful feedback about sonobe units and the various
> spheres that can be constructed thereof.
>
> Here's another question, one that's probably been asked and answered
> a million times but unfortunately I wasn't listening (or reading) at
> those times:
>
> I'm making some cool origami earrings, etc. and need to make them
> waterproof somehow. I know there are some things that can be painted
> or sprayed on them but don't know what they are. Any advice? Has
> anyone tried painting water based polyurethane on origami and if so,
> how did it work? It's great stuff and not toxic, I just don't know if
> it works on paper.
>
> Thanks, Erica





From: Lori Gregory <LBGregory77@GATEWAY.NET>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 02:15
Subject: OUSA Calendar of Events

Any and all Origami USA members or affiliates:

We are starting a new calendar of events to be published in the Origami USA
Paper.  If you have any folding events or regularly scheduled meetings in
your area during the next couple of months and you want them published in the
Paper, please submit them to me privately at LBGregory77@gateway.net.  I will
need these by February 13, to submit to the publisher by February 14.

Any questions, please email me privately.  Thank you so much!
Lori
LBGregory77@gateway.net





From: Mark Plant <mplant@UK.ORACLE.COM>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 04:42
Subject: Re: How do I find a book?

Elaina

I just went to Amazon at http://www.amazon.co.uk/

...I then  entered 'Sanrio' as the search criteria, and ... hey, presto !
...

The URL for Amazon in the USA is http://www.amazon.com.

Regards

Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: Elaina Quackenbush <mailto:elaina_quackenbush@NETZERO.NET>
To: <mailto:ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 9:58 PM
Subject: How do I find a book?

> Hi, I am trying to find a japanese origami book (ok that's a duh!) from
> Sanrio.  It has the folds for all the cartoon characters from Hello Kitty
to
> Batz Maru.  Any ideas how to go about this?
>
> Elaina
>
> __________________________________________
> NetZero - Defenders of the Free World
> Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at
> http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html





From: Mirjam Van Vroonhoven <mirjamv@THEOCHEM.KUN.NL>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 06:05
Subject: (NO - problems with:) Re: WEBCAM ?

On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, THOKI YENN wrote:

>I should like to know if any of you have any experience
>with WEBCAM from Creative www.creative.com
>
>This WEBCAM took over the commando of MY Computer
>and decide that I could not close it normally
>after having used the WEBCAM, so even if it took
>good pictures while it functioned I had to remove it again.

I had a similar experience with a video card from the same company (a quite
new one, I don't know the type number) at my work. After the installation of
the driver for this card, windows98 refuses to shut down normally. The only
solution is to push the reset-button. It is not a big problem, only that
scandisk is run each time the computer is started, because of the
"not-proper-shutdown".

Uninstallation of the driver was not possible, because the uninstall-program
did not function properly. It seems to be a new problem, since half a year
ago, we also had some new computers with a videocard from this company, which
did not have this problem.

Greetings,

Mirjam.
-------
All theoretical chemistry is really physics;
and all theoretical chemists know it. -- Richard P. Feynman





From: THOKI YENN <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 06:44
Subject: Sv:      (NO - problems with:) Re: WEBCAM ?

Dear  Mirjam.

Thank you very much for your answer to my problem.
Now that I know that another person has had the same problem
it seems easier to confront.
I thought all the time that perhaps it was me doing something wrong,

Now perhaps I can get the shop where I bought it
to give me a new videocard ?

Do you think it is the card or just the driver ?
You seem to have more experience with computers than I have.

with the kindest regards

Thoki Yenn

and from the Great and Glorious Kalmon of the North http://www.thok.dk
who wants to send his personal signature and his latest self-portrait
+ a portrait of the old Geezer as a young man and one as he looks now.





From: Mark Plant <mplant@UK.ORACLE.COM>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 06:51
Subject: Re: Sonobe and Buckyballs

The correct URL for Tom's Buckyball notes is -

http://chasm.mirrimack.edu/~thull/combgeom/bucky/buckynotes/html

Regards

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:DLister891@AOL.COM>
To: <mailto:ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: Sonobe and Buckyballs

> I should like to say how grateful I am to Tom Hull for pointing to his web
> page on "Combintorial Geometry." It's much more exciting than the title
might
> suggest. Tom uses modular origami to give his students a hands-on approach
to
> the subject. I urge everyone to have a look. The URL, again is:
>
> http://www.merrimack.edu/~thull/combgeom/bucky/buckynotes.html
>
> But there's more than just Tom's own contribution. Links lead to  the
website
> of George W. Hart, an enthusiast for polyhedra made from paper and wood
and
> also from a commercially available polyhedra construction kit called
> "Zoomtool". While I haven't yet experienced Zoomtool, it has every
appearance
> of making the construction of polyhedra much easier than any previous
> technique. It will be excellent for preliminary forays into polyhedra by
> modular origami enthusiasts.  A link is provided to the manufacturers from
> whom kits of a variety of sizes suitable for everyone from young children
to
> advanced reserchers can be obtained.
>
> George W. Hart's homepage is at:  http://www.georgehart.com/
>
> And more: George Hart provides an extensive annotated ten-page
bibliography
> of polyhedra, which I think is the best I have ever seen. The range
extends
> from elementary to advanced,, and many, if not most books are
> well-illustrated and are suitable for the general reader. The bibliography
> covers every aspect of polyhedra and also symmetry, crystallography,
> arcitectural design using polyhedra, the art of M.C.Escher and modular
> origami. Books by several well-known modular folders, most of them
familiar
> as subscribers to Origami-L, are included.
>
> For those impatient for immediate access to  Geore Hart's references, the
URL
> is:
>
> http://www.georgehart.com/visual-polyhedra/references.html
>
> Many thanks to Tom Hull. Merrimack College is very fortunate to have him
on
> its staff as we are to have him as a subscriber.
>
> David Lister





From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@DORSAI.ORG>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 08:28
Subject: Re: (NO - problems with:) Re: WEBCAM ?u

>
> I had a similar experience with a video card from the same company (a quite
> new one, I don't know the type number) at my work. After the installation of
> the driver for this card, windows98 refuses to shut down normally. The only
> solution is to push the reset-button. It is not a big problem, only that
> scandisk is run each time the computer is started, because of the
> "not-proper-shutdown".
>
> Uninstallation of the driver was not possible, because the uninstall-program
> did not function properly. It seems to be a new problem, since half a year
> ago, we also had some new computers with a videocard from this company, which
> did not have this problem.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Mirjam.
--

If you were to read the Microsoft Windows 98 newsgroups you would see at
least 20 questions per day from individuals experiencing the "shutdown
problem." Microsoft even has a patch in its Knowledge Base to address this
problem. It helps some of the people. There are also web pages set up by
individuals to assist in solving this problem. Many video card manufactures
have also updated their drivers to get rid of this problem. I can go on and
on... :-)

---
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.org
sheldon_ackerman@fc1.nycenet.edu





From: THOKI YENN <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 08:57
Subject: Sv:      (NO - problems with:) Re: WEBCAM ?

I appologize for accidentally sending
my answer with  attachmants to the List

I got an error message from MAIL SERVICE
that said it could not be delivered because of
attachments, but apparantly it was delivered
because it came back in my Inbasket
from the List as usual ????

It was written to Mirjam privately
but the old Geezer is half asleep at this time of the day

so please forgive him

Greetings

Kalmon the humiliated householding helper





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 07 Feb 2000 09:45
Subject: Materials for Folding.

"The usual medium of Origami is paper, but the Society recognises that the
techniques of folding may be applied to other materials."

So says Article 3(3) of the Constiution of the British Origami Society. The
words were written over thirty-two years ago, but they hve been shown to be
remarkabley prescient of some of the convolutions that paperfolding has taken
since then.

Recent discussions about folding materials other than paper have led me to
try to compile as complete as possible, a list of materials which may be used
for folding.

The following is my list. Are there any additions to be made? Some categories
group together and, for instance, paper itself covers a multitude of
variants. So I have listed a selection of them separately. I have groupd
roughly similar materials together.

          Paper                                 Leather
          Tissue paper                       Parchment
          Crepe paper                       Vellum
          Thin card
          Papyrus                              Pancakes
                                                    Omelettes
          Metal foil                             Pastry
                                                    Pasta
          Paper-backed foil
          Paper-sandwiched foil          Rolled ceramic clay
                                                    Ceramic paper
          Sheet Metal
                                                    Felt
          Plastic sheet                       Woven fabric
          Rubber sheet                      Knitted fabric
                                                   Net
          Forbon "paper"
         Tyvek "paper"

Of course some of these materials are much more suitable than others. For
instance, papyrus is generally not thought to be suitable for folding, but
despite this fresh papyrus is capable of taking simple folds. Plastic sheet
varies considerably in the extent to which it will take and hold a crease. I
have included rubber sheet, because,while thick rubber would be hopeless, I
think that thin rubber sheet would be capable of being folded at any rate in
a loose kind of way.

Pancakes and pastry are regularly folded. Omelettes are traditionally folded
over twice, but I think that any more complicated folding would be unlikely
to have any sort of precision.

I have not included jumpers and sweaters becuse they come under knitted
fabrics. But I have resisted the temptation to include my favourite foldable
materials of geological strata waiting to be built into mountains and flower
etals waiting to emerge from the bud. Nor have I included engineering
structures where the materials are more akin to jointed metal rods than plane
sheets of metal.

Any further suggestions?

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





From: Julius Kusserow <juku@MATHEMATIK.HU-BERLIN.DE>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 10:14
Subject: Re: Materials for Folding.

On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 DLister891@AOL.COM wrote:

> "The usual medium of Origami is paper, but the Society recognises that the
> techniques of folding may be applied to other materials."
>
> Any further suggestions?

I think there are more food than pancakes and pasta which will be
folded. The jiddish "Blintz" I saw in a restaurant seems not to be pasta
or pancake, because the dough seems to be fillo dough(correct
translation??)
An ohter food comes to my mind are very thin vegetables used to decorate
meals. Radish in japanese food is a good examle, even if the folds are
very simple.

Hope to find a few photos to veryfy this

        Julius





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: 07 Feb 2000 11:33
Subject: Re: Materials for Folding.

In a message dated 2/7/2000 9:46:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
DLister891@AOL.COM writes:

> Any further suggestions?

Aloha David Lister,

Here's a little more grist for your mill:

Rubber Balloons
    (e.g. Rubber Balloon Animals)

proteins and peptides
    (on-going research in biochemistry/pharmacology)

computer programming algorithms
    (source code, object code, or data representation
    space can be "folded".

    There is the trick of unfolding the logic of compact
    code to get a longer code that executes faster,
    because it no longer needs to jump as much.
    When this is applied to a "loop" it is called
    "unrolling" the loop.

    I once came up with a cute short algorithm to
    convert from, I think, the character representation
    of a hex digit to the hex digit value, that used
    subtraction and absolute value to logically "fold"
    the representation space twice, so I could simplify
    the cut-off logic to only one comparison test,
    inspired by the one-cut paper tricks in the Magic
    tradition.)

Wood
    (I'm thinking specifically of veneer, and thin ribbon-like
    shavings used to make decorations, but there's also
    Bonsai, and Espalier for living plants, and popsicle
    stick weaving, viewed as a minimalist modular origami.

    By the way, the older style of Bonsai, that uses
    changing the position, lighting, and feeding of the plant,
    to slowly change it's direction and rate of growth, rather
    than using wire to force it to "fold" quickly, can be
    thought of as hands-off origami. Interesting idea don't
    you think, origami without touching the material?

    I invented my own Popsicle Stick Grenades when I was
    a kid. Like small flattish tensegrities. Spring tension,
    you see. I think the minimal configuration I came up with
    was four sticks. 'Whittled' down from six.)

Metal
    (Remember Damascus Steel, japanese katana (swords)
    and Gold Leaf? They're similar to Filo Dough and
    old-fashioned flakey rolled pie crust in Pastries,
    and the Dragon's Beard Noodles (is that name right?) in
    Pasta, in that all of them depend on folding to produce
    the multiple thin layers that are essential to their
    structure.)

Mathematical objects
    (Topological Manifolds, Knotted Surfaces,
    Catastrophe Theory, Mathematical Models, Knot
    Theory, Map Folding, Stamp Sheet Folding,
    Dragon Curves, ...)

Science Fiction Inventions
     (E.g.: Space and Time Warps; more recently
      Wormholes; Isaac Asimov's Slow Glass, where
      the path of light going thru the "glass" is somehow
      folded back on itself many times to slow it down,
      so it takes years before it comes out the other side)

Optics
    (In lenses, the paths of rays of light are folded to
    bring them into focus, in fact folding paper has been
    used to help design lenses. In Holography, an early
    technique used a mirror behind the thick film to fold
    the light back on itself so it would interfere with itself,
    forming the holographic pattern. Also, there is a class
    of Mirror Optics, where mirrors are used instead of
    lenses. And later, holograms could be used instead
    of either mirrors or lenses.)

Leaf-folding
    (plant leaves, that is, e.g. leaves rolled into "trumpets",
    chinese grass-leaf grasshoppers and other animals,
    palm  frond animals.)

And, under Paper, a few special types stand out, to me,
Money, Business Cards, Newspaper, Magazine pages.

Cords
    (Way out on the borderline of Origami, are the almost
    one-dimensional forms: twining, knotting, macrame,
    chinese knotwork, netting, tatting, lacemaking,
    braiding, ribbon-weaving.

    I know some pretty strip-polyhedra, that can be made from
    ribbon, using modifications of the "Plaited Crystal Models"
    technique, from the book "Mathematical Models" by Cundy
    and Rollett. These could be looked at as modular origami
    from non-squares.

    I've seen two or three other techniques for strip-polyhedra
    that would probably be adaptable, too, but I haven't studied
    them.

    There is that one amazing Russian projectionist tn a
    cover article in one of the back issues of British Origami,
    the BOS newsletter. What a surprise! A beautiful new
    technique, apparently de novo. Has anyone heard any
    more from him?)

Oops, I'm running out of ideas, and time.
Happy Chinese New Year! (Two days ago, now.)

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura
kenny1414@aol.com





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 07 Feb 2000 11:53
Subject: Re: Materials for Folding.

David Lister has a great list but has left out a few.. , napkins, scarves,
laundry, money, and printed brochures of all kinds (the greatest for boxes) ,
travel brochures from the travel agent,   magazine covers, paper grocery
bags, gift wrap, candy wrappers, cupcake papers, coffee filters,  and give me
time, I will think of some more........who else can add ideas...

This reminds me of a story....when I was working in recreation in the nursing
home we were having an outdoor barbecue and didnt have hats to shade them
from the sun so I asked the cook for a box of large coffee filters from the
large coffee pots, folded each in half, stapled yarn ties on them and Wallah,
instant sunbonnets for 100 people.

List from David
<The following is my list. Are there any additions to be made? Some categories
group together and, for instance, paper itself covers a multitude of
variants. So I have listed a selection of them separately. I have groupd
roughly similar materials together.

          Paper                                 Leather
          Tissue paper                       Parchment
          Crepe paper                       Vellum
          Thin card
          Papyrus                              Pancakes
                                                    Omelettes
          Metal foil                             Pastry
                                                    Pasta
          Paper-backed foil
          Paper-sandwiched foil          Rolled ceramic clay
                                                    Ceramic paper
          Sheet Metal
                                                    Felt
          Plastic sheet                       Woven fabric
          Rubber sheet                      Knitted fabric
                                                   Net
          Forbon "paper"
         Tyvek "paper"





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 07 Feb 2000 11:58
Subject: Re: Materials for Folding.

Regarding materials for folding, oh yes, and how about fruit bark that you
buy in rolls at the grocery......Dorigami





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 13:27
Subject: Re: Materials for Folding.

At 09:44 00/02/07 -0500, you wrote:
>           Sheet Metal

To go along with this one, we also need to include metal mesh, and then on
to rayon mesh.

----------------------------------------------------------------
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t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 14:24
Subject: Meeting Announcement

The Littleton-Lancaster NH Origami Group will meet this Sunday at the Weeks
Memorial Library on Main St. in Lancaster at 1:00 PM. All are welcome...

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Mike Kanarek <kanarekorigami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 15:56
Subject: Origami of Kingston, NY meeting

The Origami Kingston Club meets on the second and fourth Saturday's of
the month at the Kingston Area Library.
The library is located at 55 Franklyn Street in Kingston NY.
Information may be gotten at 914-331-0988
Meeting start at 10:30 and last about a hour and a half and are in the
Childrens library.
See you there. Mike Kanarek
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From: Richard Kennedy <r.a.kennedy@BHAM.AC.UK>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 16:04
Subject: Re: NA NO  Paul Jackson video

> Does anyone have the exact title for the Paul Jackson video?  Thanks.

Here's the information directly from the case of the video:

Title:          Origami for Children

Supplier:       Mentor Video Productions Limited
                5, Hampton Court,
                Alexandra Park Road,
                LONDON  N22 4UH

                (0181) 889 0531

The video provides simple instructions to allow children to fold 12 models:

Box, Banger, Nodding Dog, Plane, Snapper, Boots, Cup, Water Bomb, Envelope,
Flapping Bird, Christmas Star, Japanese.

I don't know if the video is still available, or whether the suppliers'
contact information above is still valid.

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 17:03
Subject: Re: Materials for Folding.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Wu" <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
> >           Sheet Metal
>
> To go along with this one, we also need to include metal mesh, and then on
> to rayon mesh.
>
tortillas, wantons, rice paper... All the best - c!!!





From: Rebecca Holt <becky10@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 17:37
Subject: Re: How do I find a book? Hello Kitty

Elaina,
I bought a Sanrio kit to fold the four Hello Kitty characters, with
specific paper so they look exactly like the animated figures (eyes,
nose, clothes, etc.)  I bought it at the Umajimaya Store in Seattle WA
in Dec 1999, but didn't find any again in January.  Perhaps if Sanrio
has a website or another way to order their products you could get a
hold of it.  Let me know if you need me to photocopy the directions for
you.

Becky Holt
becky10@ix.netcom.com

=?Windows-1252?Q?Julia_P=E1lffy?= wrote:
>
> Elaina Quackenbush writes:
> Hi, I am trying to find a japanese origami book (ok that's a duh!) from
> Sanrio.
>
> ...
>
> I guess you'd better try to hunt up a librarian who reads Japanese and can
> look it up for you... or, if you can find out the address of Sanrio, write
> directly to them...
>
> Good luck!
>
> Julia Palffy
> Zug, Switzerland
> jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: bethstern <bethstern@FREEWWWEB.COM>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 17:48
Subject: Re: acrylic spray

I use acrylic spray all the time...it is great for protecting and stiffening
the piece...

Beth
Remember Lot's Wife

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/index.html
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From: Elaina Quackenbush <elaina_quackenbush@NETZERO.NET>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 18:01
Subject: Re: How do I find a book? Hello Kitty

Hi, and thatnk you, I am waiting for Sanrio to reply to a mail I sent, but I
may need hello Kitty and Pocchocco really.  My little sister wants the cat,
and my fiance want the dog for his welding hood.

Thanks so much!
Elaina

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From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 18:10
Subject: Re: jewelry

Erica,
At 14.59 6/2/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>I'm making some cool origami earrings, etc. and need to make them
>waterproof somehow. I know there are some things that can be painted
>or sprayed on them but don't know what they are. Any advice?

Upon suggestion by Mark Kennedy (who has been using it for years) I've
tried polyester resin which works nicely. It's the type used to soak glass
wool for boat repairing. After you add the catalyst, it becomes very hard
in a few hours, depending on temperature and humidity. One advice: if you
use normal paper for the models, they will become translucent with an
"oily" appearance, so you'd better use foil-backed paper. The vapors are
toxic, but if you work outdoors (better in a windy day) that's not a big
problem.

Roberto





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 20:41
Subject: Re: jewelry

Roberto, you wrote:

"The vapors are toxic, but if you work outdoors (better in a windy day)
that's not a big problem."

The gentle art of origami doesn't usually bring to mind toxic vapors
pouring into the atmosphere.  I think it would be really neat if
paperfolders sought out a non-toxic alternative that did not add more
pollution to our already besieged environment.

Dorothy





From: Jake Crowley <jakecrow@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 21:09
Subject: Toyoaki Kawai's Colorful Origami

Hello,

Does anyone have Toyoaki Kawai's book, colorful Origami? I am very
interseted in this book, mainly the masks. If anyone has it, please let me
know! Thanks.

Jake Crowley
jakecrow@hotmail.com

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From: Ross Cooper <Zxenor@AOL.COM>
Date: 07 Feb 2000 22:47
Subject: Re: Assembling Modular Origami

Michael Naughton wrote:

>Sorry not to have replied sooner -- I had some surgery done & have been
>recovering for the past couple of weeks.

eeek...sorry to hear this, are you alright?

>My "Continuum" series (an infinite collection of subtley changing models
>demonstrating the connections between E. D. Sullivan's "XYZ", Robert Neale's
>"Six Piece Ornament", my "Cube from Six Blintz Bases", etc.) has some which
>are rather difficult to construct (once constructed, some stay together well,
>and some don't). If you send an SASE to my snail mail address:
>Michael Naughton
>P.O. Box 239
>Lake Pleasant, MA  01347
>I'll be happy to send you (or anyone) a copy of the crease patterns. . . .

this 'Continuum Series'...is it a book? do i have to pay?
It sounds very intriguing...

Get Well Soon!!
   -Ross Cooper





From: Dan Gries <dangries@MATH.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Date: 08 Feb 2000 03:56
Subject: super millenial dragon challenge

hi - i'm not sure if i have missed the deadline for the origami-usa
millenial dragon challenge thingy, as i believe the chinese new year
has arrived.  this would be unfortunate, as i have just created a
super millenial dragon, and would like to enter it.  in any case, i am
really impressed with myself - my creation list is limited to some
flowers, cubes, boxes, and an angel, etc - simpler things.  now i have
made a dragon with a long tail and body, four legs, which can be modified
to have toes on the feet, three spikes on its back, two horns, two eyes,
and a tounge sticking out of the mouth.  wow, i must be a super millenial
genius!  seriously, this is really wonderful; it feels so nice to have
made an advance.  i'm sure most of you creators can identify, thinking
of your first big creation.  actually, the spikes on the back were for
free! - there was just some points hidden along the back that i just
needed to fold upwards, without having planned their placement!  nice
little surprise.

anyway, please someone remind me of the deadline for this dragon challenge.
i'm sure my dragon would leave all of your dragons in the dust because i
am a superior genius folder.  but when i win the big prize, i promise not
to let the new-found fame to go to my head.

(for those of you who haven't heard of this challenge, it might be an
origami-usa members' challenge, although i don't know for sure.)

thank-you!

-dan





From: Rebecca Holt <becky10@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: 08 Feb 2000 04:35
Subject: Re: super millenial dragon challenge

Dear Dan,
Check out www.ifold.org for information.  It is the Pacific Coast
Origami Conference (March 18-19) that is having the contest.  I don't
think it is too late to enter, so good luck and congratulations.  Sounds
like quite a feat!

Becky Holt

Dan Gries wrote:
>
> hi - i'm not sure if i have missed the deadline for the origami-usa
> millenial dragon challenge thingy, as i believe the chinese new year
> has arrived.  this would be unfortunate, as i have just created a
> super millenial dragon, and would like to enter it.  in any case, i am
> really impressed with myself - my creation list is limited to some
> flowers, cubes, boxes, and an angel, etc - simpler things.  now i have
> made a dragon with a long tail and body, four legs, which can be modified
> to have toes on the feet, three spikes on its back, two horns, two eyes,
> and a tounge sticking out of the mouth.  wow, i must be a super millenial
> genius!  seriously, this is really wonderful; it feels so nice to have
> made an advance.  i'm sure most of you creators can identify, thinking
> of your first big creation.  actually, the spikes on the back were for
> free! - there was just some points hidden along the back that i just
> needed to fold upwards, without having planned their placement!  nice
> little surprise.
>
> anyway, please someone remind me of the deadline for this dragon challenge.
> i'm sure my dragon would leave all of your dragons in the dust because i
> am a superior genius folder.  but when i win the big prize, i promise not
> to let the new-found fame to go to my head.
>
> (for those of you who haven't heard of this challenge, it might be an
> origami-usa members' challenge, although i don't know for sure.)
>
> thank-you!
>
> -dan





From: Pancho <origami_uruguay@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 08 Feb 2000 08:52
Subject: New Web Page

Hi,

I am learning HTML, and I am starting my Web Page.

I do not have much there yet, but I have some good pictures of the Pegasus
and Maekawa's Devil.

The address is http://neldoreth.8m.com

As I am new in this, I do not know much about copyrights, credits, etc.
Please advise if you see something wrong from this point of view.

I will add later: links to other pages, links to diagrams, more pictures,
the list of the books that I have with their contents, etc. The usual
things. Should I ask the owners of these pages first before putting links to
their pages in my pages? Any other advice you could give me about
copyrights?

Any feedback will be appreciated.

Best Regards,
Pancho.

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From: Mark Plant <mplant@UK.ORACLE.COM>
Date: 08 Feb 2000 09:28
Subject: NO: Re:      New Web Page

Pancho

As part of my job, I help design web sites, and offer the following -

    The background on the first page repeats across on my screen - this is
not good.

    If you must have a background, make it a small repeating pattern. Take
care to
    ensure that the background and foreground colours are compatible.

    If you really want to have that dog on your site, include a link to
    a proper picture, so other people can see it if they want.

    Do not mix fonts !!!

    Your email icon is almost lost behind the dog's ear !!

    Your 'sign my guest book' appeal is equally lacking in prominence. You
also ought
    to offer an opportunity to view other people's entries.

    Visit counters are a bit pass now - I would either skip it, or at least
have more
    than two digits - unless you expect the site to be particularly
unpopular.

    Include some indication as to the purpose of the page.

    What on earth is that 'search' thing all about ?

    Work on your HTML to get some formatting and structure into the page. A
good way
    to improve is to view the source code of other sites that you like, to
see how the nice
    tricks are done. (Right mouse click -> View Source in Netscape Navigator
and Internet
    Exploder. You can then cut 'n' paste the bits you like).

As for the Origami pictures, I think you should be OK if you made the models
yourself, and
took the pictures yourself. You are, after all, plugging other people's
designs and not giving
away their secrets.

What about some info about yourself on the site, so at least people know you
are
reasonably sane, and not a Labrador !

I give this site 1.5 out of 100. For similar efforts, see
http://www.losers.org.

.... well, you did ask ...

Regards

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: Pancho <mailto:origami_uruguay@YAHOO.COM>
To: <mailto:ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 6:37 PM
Subject: New Web Page

> Hi,
>
> I am learning HTML, and I am starting my Web Page.
>
> I do not have much there yet, but I have some good pictures of the Pegasus
> and Maekawa's Devil.
>
> The address is http://neldoreth.8m.com
>
> As I am new in this, I do not know much about copyrights, credits, etc.
> Please advise if you see something wrong from this point of view.
>
> I will add later: links to other pages, links to diagrams, more pictures,
> the list of the books that I have with their contents, etc. The usual
> things. Should I ask the owners of these pages first before putting links
to
> their pages in my pages? Any other advice you could give me about
> copyrights?
>
> Any feedback will be appreciated.
>
> Best Regards,
> Pancho.
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> http://im.yahoo.com





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 08 Feb 2000 10:10
Subject: NO: Re:      New Web Page

>>>>>>>
I give this site 1.5 out of 100. For similar efforts, see
http://www.losers.org.

.... well, you did ask ...
<<<<<<<<

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: 08 Feb 2000 10:10
Subject: (partially) NO - Re: New Web Page

>>From: Pancho <origami_uruguay@YAHOO.COM>
>>
>>I do not have much there yet, but I have some good pictures of the Pegasus
                                                ????
- IMHO the renderings of Kawahata's pegasus and Yoshino's horse don't
do the models justice - I wouldn't take the trouble to know more about
Kawahata's and Yoshino's work if all I knew about them was based on
those pictures. Whoever folded the models should first improve his/her
technique before publishing photographs.
BTW, I noticed very few differences between the larger (maybe too large)
Maekawa devil pictures, apart from lighting and size. Why don't you
present other interesting angles instead?

>>things. Should I ask the owners of these pages first before putting links to
>>their pages in my pages? Any other advice you could give me about
- a nice gesture, but not mandatory
>>copyrights?
- check the origami-l archives, there are lots of comments. See the OUSA
policy.

I agree with Mark's comments on background images, colors, counters and
fonts. Good luck, there's always something to improve!

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Pancho <origami_uruguay@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 08 Feb 2000 10:31
Subject: NO: Re:      New Web Page

Hi Mark,

I really appreciate your comments, and I will try to follow them. I am just
trying to share the models that I folded with the list. Looking at pictures
sometimes help you realize some folds that are not clear in the diagrams.

There are a lot of great origami pages around, and I am far away from
looking to get into the the Best Origami Page Contest. However, I do not
want to be the page of the month in http://www.losers.org,  so I will do the
effort

About the info about myself, for me the net and the real world are to
different dimensions that I am not willing to mix. I prefer to remain as a
virtual entity (which can be considered as not reasonably sane).

By now then, just enjoy the pictures until I do the improvements suggested.

Thanks again Mark, I'll try to raise that 1.5   :)
Best Regards,
Pancho.

----- Mensaje original -----
De: Mark Plant <mplant@UK.ORACLE.COM>
Para: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Enviado: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 6:27 AM
Asunto: NO: Re: New Web Page

Pancho

As part of my job, I help design web sites, and offer the following -
........
........
What about some info about yourself on the site, so at least people know you
are
reasonably sane, and not a Labrador !

I give this site 1.5 out of 100. For similar efforts, see
http://www.losers.org.

.... well, you did ask ...

Regards

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: Pancho <mailto:origami_uruguay@YAHOO.COM>
To: <mailto:ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 6:37 PM
Subject: New Web Page

> Hi,
>
> I am learning HTML, and I am starting my Web Page.
>
> I do not have much there yet, but I have some good pictures of the Pegasus
> and Maekawa's Devil.
>
> The address is http://neldoreth.8m.com
>
> As I am new in this, I do not know much about copyrights, credits, etc.
> Please advise if you see something wrong from this point of view.
>
> I will add later: links to other pages, links to diagrams, more pictures,
> the list of the books that I have with their contents, etc. The usual
> things. Should I ask the owners of these pages first before putting links
to
> their pages in my pages? Any other advice you could give me about
> copyrights?
>
> Any feedback will be appreciated.
>
> Best Regards,
> Pancho.
>
>
>
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