




From: Karen Reeds <reeds@OPENIX.COM>
Date: 18 Dec 1999 10:13
Subject: doodling

>> >Has anyone else "discovered" other models while doodling with their
>> >origami.
>>
I think that just about all my models have been discovered that way. And
I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to learn how to be creative--forget
trying to get a particular result, instead look hard at what you get at
each stage in a doodle and see if it suggests something, and take off from
there.

When I'm teaching origami, I make a point of asking at each stage--what
does this make you think of, what else could you do with it .  It helps
remind the folders of the various steps and, I hope, tempts them to figure
out new things on their own.
Karen





From: Gillian Wiseman <gilladian@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 18 Dec 1999 10:30
Subject: Re: Ferret/mongoose/weasel et al...

Unfortunately, it is the less aesthetically appealling mongooses which run
around in packs, not the potentially winged mongeese.

At least, according to Webster's Third New International Dictionary.

But this makes me wonder - anybody up for the challenge of folding a
mon"goose"?

Gillian
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From: Karen Reeds <reeds@OPENIX.COM>
Date: 18 Dec 1999 11:10
Subject: was dollar and a quarter dunking doodle-->index card module (pureland

>ate:    Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:07:36 -0500
>From:    Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
>Subject: Dunkin' Doodling
 a simple and esthetically pleasing way to fold
>the dollar and enclose the quarter.
>
>    Bring two diagonally opposite corners of the bill together, and crease.
>The remaining single layers of the dollar form almost perfect isosceles
>right triangles (more on this later). Valley fold one of these single layers
>along the hypotenuse, and put it behind one layer. Turn it over, and do the
>same with the other single flap, but put your change in the pocket before
>tucking the second flap in.
>
>    The two flaps interlock inside the bill, keeping the change securely
>inside. The finished model is an acute isosceles triangle, handy for passing
>through the drive-up window without dropping coins on the ground. All with
>three valley folds!
>
>    What surprised me about this is, first, that I hadn't seen it before (by
>the way, I claim full copyright on the written instructions above--- if you
>fold any money this way, send it to me. Larger denominations work best)
>Scott 'better living thru caffeine' scram@landmarknet.net

I've got a lot of money folded up this way, but can't afford to send it ot
you, Scot!

Here's a variation that makes a simplest module I've ever come up with.
Again I'm sure others must have discovered this one too, though I don't
recall ever seeing it published.

Take a 3 x 5 inch index card. Mark the centerpoints of the short sides.
Valley fold in half "across the waist" so short sides line up, and open up.
Dogear top right corner downward, valley folding from righthand end of
"waistline" to the centerpoint of top short edge.
Dogear bottom left corner upward--valley folding from lefthand end of
"waistline" to centerpoint of bottom short edge.
Valley fold waistline again and lock module by hooking the two dogears inside.
This leaves you with a rectangle, half the size of the original index card,
with a pocket and a wing on each side.

Hold the card to the light and you'll see an equilateral triangle
silhouetted inside. (Given the thickness of the cards, don't count on it
being precisely equilateral.)

Make dozen of these modules and see how many different flat and 3-D figures
you can come up with by sliding the various wings into the various pockets,
valley or mountain folding the wings along the sides of the equilateral
triangle as necessary. If you take 2 modules, slide one into the other,
fold along the joint, and tuck the remaining 2 wings into the available
pockets, you get a (thicker) equilateral triangle module with 3 available
pockets to work with.

If you really want the modules to hold  together after you've slipped a
wing into a pocket--reach inside, line up the wing with the inner
right-triangle it overlaps with, and fold them together inside so that the
raw edges are securely jammed against the inside of the side of the
equilateral triangle.

Karen
reeds@openix.com





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 18 Dec 1999 13:04
Subject: Traditional Paper Sizes

Yesterday I received an unexpected query asking if I could give information
about why 8.5inches X 11 inches became the standard size for letter paper in
the United States.

I'm afraid that I couldn't give a very authoritative reply, but I found the
quest interesting and I thought that subscribers to Origami-L might like to
see the result. I append it herewith.

David Lister

                              +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I do not live in the United States and am not in the paper trade, so I have
no inside knowledge. My interest in paper sizes came through the
International sizes (A3, A4, A5 and the like.) These are now universally used
in England, as in most of the world outside the United States. They all have
the curious ratio of sides of one to the square root of two. This proportion
is what has come to be known as the Silver Ratio on the analogy of the
ancient Golden Ratio or Golden Section.  I became interested in this, not
only because of its geometrical properties, but also from the point of view
of origami or paperfolding. The implications of this geometry have still not
been fully worked out. The essential point about it is that if any A-sized
sheet of paper is cut in half, the ratios of the sides of the two resultant
halves are in the same proportion of one to the square root of two.
Obviously, this can result in  great saving of wastage on cutting up for
smaller sizes.

The International size A4 is fairly near to that of American Letter paper.
Both are handy sizes for business correspondence. Both have become standard
in their respective parts of the world. The introduction of photo-copiers,
fax machines and computer printers has greatly encouraged standardisation and
most machines can cope with either the International Standard or the American
Standard.

I'm rehearsing information which I'm sure you already know, but it is from
our present conventions that we look back on older conventional sizes of
paper.

Some of the common American sizes of which I am aware are "letter size" (8
1/2 inches X 11 inches) and "legal size" (8 1/2 inches x 13 1/2" inches).
Perhaps inaccurately, in England, I knew these sizes as "American Quarto" and
"American Foolscap" respectively. The reason was that they corresponded to
two common British sizes of office paper.

When I began my  office career in 1953, the common British sizes were, going
down form the largest:

Brief:  13"  X  16". This was used by lawyers for their briefs to Counsel.
These were typed right across the large page. When complete, the brief was
folded horizontally and then horizontally again (rather in the way we fold
newspapers). The brief was then tied with pink string (or red tape, if you
like.) The same paper was also used for abstracts of title to property.
The tied up bundles were filed not in filing cabinets but on shelves.
Nowadays, briefs and abstracts of title are typed on ordinary A4, which isn't
nearly so romantic!

Foolscap:  !3" X 8". This was used for reports and longer letters, where
"quarto" would be considered too small. This size is not very far removed
from the American "Legal" size.

Quarto:  10" X 11".This was used for most letters. It was used where American
"Letter size " would be used, although it was considerably smaller. It is now
replaced by A4, but in many respects it was a more useful, handy size.

Sixmo:  6 1/2" .this was used for short letters. it was used in horizontal or
"landscape format" and was considered quite attractive and less formal than
quarto or octavo.

Octavo:  8" x 5":  This was also used for short letters. It was used in
vertical or "portrait" format, but was becoming replaced by Sixmo.

When International sizes first started to replace the old sizes of office
paper, A4 took the place of Brief, Foolscap and Quarto, while A5 took the
place of Sixmo and Octavo. However, many users found that because of
standardisation it became as cheap to use A4 for all purposes and the use of
A5 declined.

The terms, "quarto", "sixmo" and "octavo" are used in this context in a
somewhat imprecise way. Just as "folio" means that the original sheet of
paper is folded one, so "quarto" means that the original sheet has been
folded twice, so that the resultant size is one quarter of the original.
"Sixmo" means that it is one sixth of the original and "octavo" that is one
eighth of the original. But accurate use of the terms should specify to the
size of the original unfolded and uncut sheet. In the case of these English
office papers it was one known as "Large Post", having a size of 16 1/22 X
21". However, Large Post was only one of many basic sizes of paper in use for
all kinds of purposes at one time in England.

Another size was "Foolscap", the size of the unfolded sheet of which was 27"
x17" What we knew in the office as "Foolscap" was more accurately "Foolscap
Quarto", one quarter the size of  he original Foolscap sheet.

I formerly thought that "Foolscap" was so called because it could be twisted
into a cone and was used for making dunces' caps. However, I have now
discovered that it was so called because it bore a watermark showing a fool's
head and cap. This was an ancient kind of paper, showing how old some of the
sizes were.

All these different old sizes indicate that standardisation of paper sizes in
England is only fairly recent. The sizes of pages of books are still not
standardised. In other words, paper was made of such-and-such a size
according to the whim of the particular paper maker. And in the days before
big business, when paper was all made by hand, there were countless small
paper  makers, each producing, not only their own type and quality of paper,
but also their own sizes.

The same must have been true in the United States. I have come across a
reference which argues that there used to be an untrimmed paper size  in the
ratio of 12" X 9". This was pretty close to the Golden Section. (Not the
Silver Section of the International sizes.) However, I can only think that
this was one among many paper sizes in the United States. This untrimmed size
was then trimmed to 8 1/2" X 11", which is the size of American letter paper
and  is suggested that this was its origin. However, this still begs the
question why the untrimmed size of 12" x 9" was chosen in the first place,
and why the golden ratio should have been chosen.

I suspect that the real answer is that paper users chose to use the size of
paper that was most convenient for them, among all the multitude of sizes
that were at one time available. It is probably that the introduction of the
typewriter (the original models of which had short carriages) also influenced
the choice of the size of paper. Mass production then came in and the more
popular sizes became cheaper, so encouraging more people to use them  instead
of other sizes.

There was nothing sacrosanct about any particular size. The fact that  the
accepted sizes in Britain were different from those in the United States
illustrates this.

In looking up paper sizes, I have been surprised to find how little is
written in the encyclopaedias and in particular in the Encyclopaedia
Britannica (both the 11th edition and the present 15th edition.)

There are, however, several Web sites that deal with paper sizes, although
none of them on a full historical basis. Most concentrate on the
International sizes. They include:

http://www.twica.com/~eds/papersize.html

http://www.netexpress.net/~tyarker/Paper.html

http://www.archivebuilders.com/aba006.html

http://www.ft.uni-erlangen.de/~mskuhn/iso-paper.html

I'm afraid that this give a conjectural, but I have enjoyed looking things up
and I hope that this note may be of some interest.

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.





From: Kim Sisk <KSisk24931@AOL.COM>
Date: 18 Dec 1999 14:22
Subject: Paper storage?

There's been discussion about how to store and sort diagrams but what about
doing the same for origami paper? I've thought about a box, but I have many
different colors and I'd like to be able to get to them all. Any suggestions?

Kemara





From: Dan Gries <dangries@MATH.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Date: 18 Dec 1999 17:51
Subject: urgent: fold preserving

well, that subject line, i'm sure, is rather cryptic...

for christmas, i will be folding some clock faces (12 pointed stars,
basically) and inserting clock works to complete them.  my question
is this:  is there some kind of spray or technique i can use to
preserve these folds?  i mean, i don't want the folds to relax over
time.  i want something to make the clock face stiff.  preferably
something that won't add a sheen, but which would preserve the matted
*paper* look of the paper.

i'm thinking of just glueing the finished product onto some card stock
behind, but that may not work completely, as i may not be able to get all the
folds "attached" like this.

the reason i put "urgent" into the subject line is that i plan on leaving
town for my parents' house soon, and would like to resolve this before then!

thank-you for any suggestions.  boy, i ask a lot of questions to this list.
you've always been so helpful.

-dan





From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 18 Dec 1999 18:49
Subject: TISSUE FOIL

I've just begun to use tissue foil.  The only thing that I have made so far
is the Kawasaki Rose form Coonoisseur and I love how it looks!  I was
wondering what some other things are that look really good when folded out
of tissue foil.  Especially more complex things.  This is one of the first
times I have really been satisfied with how one of the things I have folded
looks.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks
Collin Weber
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From: Stephen Canon <Stephen_Canon@BROWN.EDU>
Date: 18 Dec 1999 20:07
Subject: Re: Traditional Paper Sizes

David Lister wrote:

<snip>
 > The same must have been true in the United States. I have come across a
 > reference which argues that there used to be an untrimmed paper size  in the
 > ratio of 12" X 9". This was pretty close to the Golden Section.
<snip>

How, exactly, is 12 x 9 close to the golden ratio?  The golden ratio
(i.e. (1 + sqrt(5))/2 ) would require proportions closer to 15 x 9.

- stephen canon





From: Kellydunn2@AOL.COM
Date: 19 Dec 1999 02:58
Subject: Re: urgent: fold preserving

In a message dated 12/18/99 2:52:00 PM, dangries@MATH.OHIO-STATE.EDU writes:

<< for christmas, i will be folding some clock faces (12 pointed stars,
basically) and inserting clock works to complete them.  my question
is this:  is there some kind of spray or technique i can use to
preserve these folds?  >>

What about wax? I know wax preserves paper. I've been dunking stars into a wax
bath, and it works well with one good dunk. Too many times and the wax gets
built up and too much in the edges. Maybe, add the clock works after the wax,
if the wax is still wet it might hold the clock works. I'm not sure if wax
has been considered in origami as a preservative, but it does soak well into
plain origami paper.  Paraffin melts at a very low temperature so it isn't
hot.

Best wishes,
Kelly Dunn





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 05:51
Subject: Two fold "Ski Resort"

Paul Jackson wrote:

>perhaps the*true* first was revealed by the near-legendary Otto Nordstrom
form
>northern Finland.  His diagrams of the traditional Finnish model
>'Mount Paeldaivi' appears in his article in BOS magazine No 78 of
>October 1979.

Unfortunately not.

According to my sources in Lapland the models claimed to be traditionally
Finnish by Otto Nordstrom are in fact fine examples of traditional Lapp
paperfolding, which have been ruthlessly plagiarised.

The supreme example of Lapp paperfolding - the Paul Jackstone - apparently
unknown even to Otto Nordstrom - has long been considered one of the 7
proofs of maturity required of a young Lapp male. It should be remembered
that juvenile Lapps are trained to perform this feat of folding in total
darkness during their long sunless winters.

Finally my source reminds me that Lapp paperfolding is to be carefully
distinguished from folding in Eire.

Dave Mitchell





From: Rob Moes <robmoes@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 05:57
Subject: Re: bears

Oops, I was wrong about which Tuyen book the upright bear is in...it's in
_Wild Origami_.  For me that model alone was worth buying the book.

Rob





From: Rob Moes <robmoes@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 06:08
Subject: Re: TISSUE FOIL

>I've just begun to use tissue foil.  The only thing that I have made so far
>is the Kawasaki Rose form Coonoisseur and I love how it looks!  I was
>wondering what some other things are that look really good when folded out
>of tissue foil.  Especially more complex things.  This is one of the first
>times I have really been satisfied with how one of the things I have folded
>looks.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>Collin Weber

Personally I make all of the bugs and insects out of tissue foil because I
think they just look better with not so much sheen as colored foil.  You
already know that the same is true of most flowers and plants.

(BTW:  I rarely use actual tissue unless I know that it's "archival" or
"acid-free" because the colors can fade and deteriorate so quickly.  I like
translucent unryu that comes in so many colors.)

Anything that has a sculptural quality is wonderful out of tissue foil.
These would be just about anything out of _Brilliant Origami_ for example,
and any human forms you may encounter, such as the works of Neal Elias or
the action models of Robert Lang.

Just off the top of my head...Rob





From: Atsina <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 10:55
Subject: Re: urgent: fold preserving

Kellydunn2@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/18/99 2:52:00 PM, dangries@MATH.OHIO-STATE.EDU writes:
 Paraffin melts at a very low temperature so it isn't
> hot.
>
> Best wishes,
> Kelly Dunn

Paraffin also bursts into flame at relatively low temperatures... be cautious.

Kim Shuck





From: Scottie Lover <iluvscotties@MINDSPRING.COM>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 11:05
Subject: Re: urgent: fold preserving

>for christmas, i will be folding some clock faces (12 pointed stars,
>basically) and inserting clock works to complete them ... is there
>some kind of spray or technique i can use to preserve these folds?

Hopefully, someone will be experienced at this and can offer a definitive
answer.  In the interim, you might want to try dipping them (without the
clock works) into either melted wax or Envirotex.  That's
how folks make origami jewelry, so it might work here ...

Good luck!





From: Scottie Lover <iluvscotties@MINDSPRING.COM>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 11:05
Subject: Re: TISSUE FOIL

At 06:06 AM 12/19/99 -0500, Rob Moes wrote:
>Personally I make all of the bugs and insects out of tissue foil because I
>think they just look better with not so much sheen as colored foil.  You
>already know that the same is true of most flowers and plants.

Exactly what is tissue foil (and where would one purchase it)?

Thank you very much.





From: Scottie Lover <iluvscotties@MINDSPRING.COM>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 11:05
Subject: Re: urgent: fold preserving

At 07:18 AM 12/19/99 -0800, Atsina wrote:
>Paraffin also bursts into flame at relatively low temperatures... be cautious.

Very true!  I always melt wax inside an old coffee can, which is placed inside
of a pan half-filled with water.  This simulates a double boiler (without
ruining a good pan with the wax).  And NEVER leave
this unattended ... Turn off the flame (and remove the pot if using an electric
stove) before leaving the room.

I've been making candles since I was a kid, and have always found melting wax
to be perfectly safe -- but make sure to follow the above rules whenever
melting wax.
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From: Kellydunn2@AOL.COM
Date: 19 Dec 1999 11:20
Subject: Re: urgent: fold preserving

You can also get Paraffin melters at stores, craft and beauty stores. You
not playing with fire at all this way. It's used also at nail places for
dipping
hands, and the melter can be left on all day unattended, in fact it's supposed
to be left on because it does not reach the combusting temperature.
Dipping origami is also very sooothing and good for you hands.

Best wishes,
Kelly Dunn





From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@FANTASYFARM.COM>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 11:31
Subject: Preserving creases

On making a model so it won't unfold, would just a few carefully-planned
drops of glue "inside" a few key folds hold just about any model in its
desired shape, without having to do anything large-scale with the entire
model [like dip it in wax or the like]?  I know I've done this with
modular boxes and polyhedra: just a drop of glue at the right place and
the model goes from flimsy-will-de-modularize to "quite stable".   I
admit I've only used that to keep modulars together, not to keep a
model's creases from relaxing, but I'd guess that it'd still work and be
*totally* invisible [and not cover or obscure the paper at all, etc]

  /Bernie\
--
Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
mailto:bernie@fantasyfarm.com     Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--





From: Lynch Family <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 11:41
Subject: Re: TISSUE FOIL

I like to use tissue foil for anything that nedds to be "3d'ed" in lieu
of wetfolding. Wetfolding, the few times I've tried have never been very
successful and tissue foil you can use just about anywhere.

I like too that you can get color combinations unavailable in regular
paper (like green backed to red for Strawberries).

collin weber wrote:
>
> I've just begun to use tissue foil.  The only thing that I have made so far
> is the Kawasaki Rose form Coonoisseur and I love how it looks!  I was
> wondering what some other things are that look really good when folded out
> of tissue foil.  Especially more complex things.  This is one of the first
> times I have really been satisfied with how one of the things I have folded
> looks.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Collin Weber
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From: Michael Antonette <mylor@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 12:00
Subject: Re: urgent: fold preserving

   Well, Dan, there are several spray finishes you can purchase in
hobby/craft stores or hardware stores that are usable on paper. They come in
different textures, and one is available that doesn't leave a glossy
coating, so you don't end up spoiling the 'paper' look.
   As well, you might try the paste referred to as 'puzzle coat', used for
preserving finished jisaw puzzles. It's available in both glossy and matte
finishes as well. Both these techniques have served me in the past.

                                             Michael





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 19 Dec 1999 13:04
Subject: Re: Traditional Paper Sizes

Stephen Canon asked:

> How, exactly, is 12 x 9 close to the golden ratio?  The golden ratio
>  (i.e. (1 + sq rt (5)) /2) would require proportions closer to 15 x 9.

1 X 9 is not particularly close to the golden ratio. I have to admit that I
was quoting a source without checking it - an upardonable sin!

The Golden Section is 0.61803398.......

The Silver Section is  0.7071068.......

12 X 9  (or 4 X 3)  is  0.75.

15 X 9 is   0.6.

So 4 X 3 is, in fact, closer to the Silver Section than the Golden Section.

There is considerable discussion about whether the Golden Section really does
have the aesthetic or even mystical qualities attributed to it. Many people
would argue that rectangles of any of these proportions are artistically
satisfying.

In the realm of flags, many flags, particularly those deriving from British
sources, have the ratio 2 X1. (They have lengthened over the years as an
accidental and unintended result of a narrowing of the width of bunting used
in the manufacture of flags!) But many people think that the proportion of 2
X 1 is too long. 4 X 3 or something near that is the proportion used by many
flags. It seems to be a matter of taste.

David Lister.





From: "Sandra P.Hoffman" <ghidra@HOME.COM>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 15:48
Subject: Re: bears

On 19 Dec 99, at 5:56, Rob Moes wrote:

> Oops, I was wrong about which Tuyen book the upright bear is in...it's in
> _Wild Origami_.  For me that model alone was worth buying the book.

Thanks, I will look for the book.

sph

Sandra P. Hoffman
ghidra@home.com
http://www.flora.org/sandra/





From: BTStern <btstern@BUFFNET.NET>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 16:06
Subject: Re: polyhedra  wreath

Well my fellow folders...my wreath is completed

(she bows slightly at the waist)

the 14th one I did over and over ....ripping it out and starting
again...until finally...it did just as I wanted it to...

but....NEVER AGAIN

Beth
Have a Bob Day
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http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/Renaldo.html
New York Does Not Need Hillary Clinton





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 16:51
Subject: Re: TISSUE FOIL

On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Scottie Lover wrote:

> Exactly what is tissue foil (and where would one purchase it)?
>
> Thank you very much.

Also known as laminated foil, basically a composit of tissue paper
laminated to either side of kitchen foil using a spray adhesive.

Many other types of paper can be used besides tissue - basically any paper
that is too soft or thin to hold many (or any) creases. I enjoy using
Unryu paper for that "hairy" effect (and the range of colours), but I have
also used rice paper, handmade paper (eg. hemp), silk paper etc.

Best to experiment with different paper for different models.

regards
Michael





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 17:06
Subject: Re: polyhedra  wreath

>  (she bows slightly at the waist)
>
>  the 14th one I did over and over ....ripping it out and starting
>  again...until finally...it did just as I wanted it to...
>
>  but....NEVER AGAIN

Well done! If anyone else is considering such a feat though take note the
easiest way to do these is to inset the 3 units of the next cube into the
current one before you join the corners together, and to have twoset of three
units sticking out of the first cube.

I made one at work once... have you ever seen the butterfly ball that
explodes into a thousand butterflys (or so it seems) when you throw it up and
punch it , well I can assure you the same is not true of the cube polyhedra
wreaths :) )

Dave

Incidentally if you want another unit challenge try the horsey from Origami
for the conni... I've tried once and uttered the same statement NEVER AGAIN!





From: Peggy Van Norman <peggy@VANNORMAN.COM>
Date: 19 Dec 1999 18:32
Subject: Ribbon animal instructions

Hi everybody,

Sorry to do this via the list, but I'm very pressed for time, hope nobody
minds terribly.

For those of you who sent me requests for ribbon animal instructions, please
be assured that I will mail the 2nd batch out as soon as I'm done with our
Christmas/New Year's preparations and activities.  (And no, this is _not_ an
invitation for more requests - as soon as this batch goes out, stick a fork
in me, I'm done.)

For those of you who were in the first batch, I trust that everyone received
them, and may I take this opportunity to send a special *thank you* to June
Sakamoto - your gracious note and gift were very much appreciated :-).

Peggy





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@MOEBIUS.INKA.DE>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 03:10
Subject: Re: TISSUE FOIL

> On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Scottie Lover wrote:
> > Exactly what is tissue foil (and where would one purchase it)?

If Kalmon would kindly lend me his Clar.I.Net for a moment, I would like
to announce that there is an article about how to prepare foil-backed
paper available at
http://www.papierfalten.de/en/articles/foil-backing.html.

--
Yours, Sebastian <skirsch@t-online.de>

*** Dieses Schreiben wurde mit Hilfe einer Datenverarbeitungsanlage ***
*** erstellt und bedarf keiner Unterschrift.                        ***





From: Julius Kusserow <juku@MATHEMATIK.HU-BERLIN.DE>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 06:35
Subject: Re: TISSUE FOIL

On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Michael Janssen-Gibson wrote:
>
> Many other types of paper can be used besides tissue - basically any paper
> that is too soft or thin to hold many (or any) creases. I enjoy using
> Unryu paper for that "hairy" effect (and the range of colours), but I have
> also used rice paper, handmade paper (eg. hemp), silk paper etc.
>
> Best to experiment with different paper for different models.

I also get very satisfying results, when I used fabric on one side. Fabric
s very good for animalhides or the insides of boxes.

Good Luck, nice Xmas and Happy folding

        Julius Kusserow





From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@WORLD.STD.COM>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 09:11
Subject: Re: Two fold "Ski Resort"

>>===== Original Message From Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> =====
>>For fans of minimalist origami, here is a two fold "Ski Resort".
>
>Wonderful model, and so simple. I'm working on a "Mountain Fold" collection
>(not online yet) for my homepage, can I put your mountain in there?
>
>
>Matthias 'Alpenfalten' Gutfeldt
>http://beam.to/origami

Please feel free to use this model.

        -- Jeannine Mosely





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 09:57
Subject: $ bill jumping frog

A couple of years ago someone taught me a $ jumping frog
which I really like.

The folding sequence starts with turning the bill into a 2-by-1
rectangle and then folding a water bomb base out of each of the
two squares.

Does this sound familiar to anyone? I would like to find out whose
model it is as well as diagrams. The person who taught it to me said
she had diagrams that she had gotten from a math-teacher workshop,
but didn't have them with her. I've taught this model to many people
and would like to be able to give credit where it's due.

Thanks.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: John Smith <pureland@WAITROSE.COM>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 12:26
Subject: Re: Pureland Origami

I am delighted to see that Pureland origami is still remembered,after all it
is now over 20 years since I first put forward the idea, and it could easily
have died a natural death by now. I think it is important to stress that I
thought of Pureland as a constraint which might well produce simple models.
Without labouring the point Pureland requires only one crease or fold to be
handled at a time and all critical folds to have straight-forward landmarks.
The aim of minimal folding which is often confused with Pureland, is to
achieve a result in the minmum number of folds (this does not exclude sinks
etc, but these do require many folds for each such construct). Many minimal
models do not have landmarks and are often quite difficult on this account.
Of course a minmal model can also be Pureland.
For those who are interested in the origin of these ideas you will find an
account on my web site
www.users.waitrose.com/~pureland. together with some examples.

The nomination of the best Pureland model cries out for a clarification of
one means by 'best'.
I think I will sidestep this thorny issue and simply list my favourites.
These are all Pureland and hence
use clear landmarks.

6 point star  Nick Robinson UK  , folded from an A4 a superb sequence of
folds ended with a lock.
Letter fold    Heinz Strobl, Germany      an A4 fold which locks superbly ,
a real masterpiece.
Decoration  Sue Neff USA, a charming two piece design.
Spiral          Kasahara Japan.    A simple but brilliant idea using the
different colours available.

I have published some 90 pureland models and of those my particular
favourites are:-
Happy Santa
Angel (finger puppet version)
Humming bird
Mount Fujiyama decorated box.

Of course all of these are very simple, but I like simple models, which, for
me, capture
the very essence of Origami.

happy folding  John Smith





From: Howard Portugal <howardpo@MICROSOFT.COM>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 14:43
Subject: Re: Working Wheel of Fortune??

Hey Nick,

I originally saw that rosette in one of the early dollar bill books. It
makes a nice tip for a waiter or waitress.

Howard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Robinson [mailto:nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK]
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 8:46 AM
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: Working Wheel of Fortune??
>
>
> Dr. Joel M. Hoffman <joel@EXC.COM> sez
>
> >1.  Can a nice circle be folded from a square?
> >2.  Any ideas on how to make the wheel of fortune?
>
> Paul Jackson created a superb circular fan by pleating a 2*1
> rectangle.
> It was published in his "Classic origami" under the name of "rosette",
> probably elsewhere as well.
>
> all the best,
>
> Nick Robinson
>
> email           nick@purplepeople.co.uk
> homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
> BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 14:52
Subject: Where's Otto?

Paul Jackson <Mpjackson@BTINTERNET.COM> sez

>They are quite possibly amongst the first, Nick lad, but perhaps the
>*true* first was revealed by the near-legendary Otto Nordstrom form
>northern Finland.

I have read some his revalatory articles in old issues of Brit Origami,
but was unaware of this. Can you quote your source?

>I wonder what became of Mr Nordstrom...? :-)

Perhaps if he's on-line he might respond to this. I wonder if Thoki Yenn
knows him?

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@purplepeople.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 14:52
Subject: Re: Working Wheel of Fortune??

Howard sez:

>I originally saw that rosette in one of the early dollar bill books. It
>makes a nice tip for a waiter or waitress.

Only if the meal cost six bucks or less.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Leigh Halford <Leigh451@AOL.COM>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 15:34
Subject: screensaver

A few months ago somebody mailed me to tell me how to save a file on my web
page so others can download it. If you remember doing this could you send me
the details on how to do it again as I can't remember.

I have just finished an origami Screensaver and I want to post it on my site.
 Cheers
Leigh





From: "JacAlArt ." <jacalart@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 16:57
Subject: Re: screensaver

Just provide a hyperlink to the downloadable file. When someone clicks on
it, they will be prompted to save it. For example:
<.A HREF="path/to/the/file/filename">click here to download it<./A>
Of course, don't type those periods in front on the A or the slash.
~J

>From: Leigh Halford <Leigh451@AOL.COM>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: screensaver
>Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:22:23 EST
>
>A few months ago somebody mailed me to tell me how to save a file on my web
>page so others can download it. If you remember doing this could you send
>me
>the details on how to do it again as I can't remember.
>
>I have just finished an origami Screensaver and I want to post it on my
>site.
>  Cheers
>Leigh

______________________________________________________
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From: Paul Jackson <Mpjackson@BTINTERNET.COM>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 17:01
Subject: Re: Where's Otto?

 Paul Jackson wrote

> >They are quite possibly amongst the first, Nick lad, but perhaps
the
> >*true* first was revealed by the near-legendary Otto Nordstrom from
> >northern Finland.

 To which Nick Robinson replied

> I have read some his revalatory articles in old issues of Brit
Origami,
> but was unaware of this. Can you quote your source?

Re-reading the article in BO No 78, Nr Nordstrom does not provide
sources for his traditional models from northern Finland.  However, of
particular interest is the model of Lake Porttipahdan-tekojarvi -- the
instructions come complete with a compass to show north, such is its
topographic accuracy.  I've just checked the shape of the lake in my
'Times Atlas of the World' (seventh edition 1985) and can testify as
to the accuracy of this model.  Check it for yourself, map reference
68.05N 26.30E.  One wonders how the ancients knew the shape of the
lake so accurately *from the air*.  Could they fly?  Were aliens the
first paper folders?  Mr Nordstrom writes knowledgably of traditional
northern Finnish paper folding and I do not seriously doubt the
accuracy of his research, but the origin of this remarkable model
remains a mystery to me.  Interestingly, all the models he diagrammed
are Pureland. I wonder if this article influenced John Smith (see his
'Re: Pureland Origami' posting of today)? -- the timing is about
right.

> I wonder if Thoki Yenn knows him?

I don't know, but a certain BOS member from Kidderminster may know him
too (I prefer not to disclose someone's name without its owner's prior
permission).

Paul Jackson





From: David Taylor <dataylor@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 17:53
Subject: Round units?

I'm accumulating some of those round papers that come in boxes of
chocolates. Do I have to throw them away? What about a unit, say for a
wreath? Yes, I know, when you fold a circle you have a straight line, but
maybe there's something after all?
--Elise

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
(Jim Elliot)





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 19:47
Subject: Sv:      Where's Otto?

Dear Paul and Nick

>I wonder if Thoki Yenn knows him?

It is no use asking Thoki Yenn, his memory is faulty,
but I, The Greta and Glorious Kalmon also of the North
remember that he once told me, that the three Otto Nordstrom Reports
(A peculiar thing about these reports are that they are not mentioned
in BOS booklet 23: INDEX 1 to 100 by John Cunliffe.)
These reports in Bos Mag numbers 78, 79, 80 impressed him excidingly.
for several reasons. One being that Number 79 was the very first BOS Mag
that the old geezer recieved, when he became a member of BOS .
That was in December 1979 - So 20 years have gone now
and the ideas of Otto Nordtrom emerges again. There must be a reason.
I have been re-reading these reports and I can see now
how deeply impressed Thoki Yenn has been by them.
He was especially delighted by the way the ancient savant  "Lap Of The Gods"
achieved reality in his "School of Ultimate Reality", and it gave Thoki Yenn
the courage to express his explanation of how you could explain
to a person how it was possible to fold anything - any thing.
The idea of the ancient  folders of the North was
to press the paper against the subject
similar to the way in which Eric Joisel puts a wet piece of paper
 over his face to start one of his famous masks.
Thoki Yenn explains his idea like this:
"Put the object in a balloon of tissue paper, and suck out the air.
The wrinkles you stuff away in pockets and you have perfect realism."

I qoute from the report 'Two' in BOSM No. 79

"Detail was realism and realism was O.K.,
because it looked good and impressed the plebs (the shovel-shiners).
That kept the subjects quiet and submissive as they were awed.
Aweness means no questions."

Kind regards and good wishes to you all, and a nice slide into the Year 2000

>From The Great and Glorious Kalmon of the North
I repeat: "Aweness means no questions. -  Otto Nordstrom"

Have a look at http://www.thok.dk/origami.html





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 19:47
Subject: Sv:      Re: TISSUE FOIL

Dear Sebastian
you wrote

>If Kalmon would kindly lend me his Clar.I.Net for a moment, I would like
>to announce that there is an article about how to prepare foil-backed
>paper available at
http://www.papierfalten.de/en/articles/foil-backing.html.

I,  the G&GKOTN, am sorry Sebastian I am unable to lend you
my Clar.I.Net, because the another person has borrowed it
and has not returned it.

But I will gladly lend you my Trombone,
just remember the address thok@thok.dk
because your articte about foil backing
deserved a good and loud blast from a trombone
not just a peep-peep from a Clar.I.Net.

You may look at http://www.thok.dk/santa84.html

Greetings and good wishes from
the Great and Glorious Kalmon of the North





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 20:52
Subject: Sv:      Re: TISSUE FOIL

Dear Sebastian
you wrote

>If Kalmon would kindly lend me his Clar.I.Net for a moment, I would like
>to announce that there is an article about how to prepare foil-backed
>paper available at
http://www.papierfalten.de/en/articles/foil-backing.html.

I,  the G&GKOTN, am sorry Sebastian I am unable to lend you
my Clar.I.Net, because the another person has borrowed it
and has not returned it.

But I will gladly lend you my Trombone,
just remember the address thok@thok.dk
because your articte about foil backing
deserved a good and loud blast from a trombone
not just a peep-peep from a Clar.I.Net.

Greetings and good wishes from
the G&GKOTN





From: "R. Alan Monroe" <amonroe@EARTH1.NET>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 21:02
Subject: Concave gum wrapper polyhedrons anyone?

Subject says it all. Anyone tried it? I trial fitted some scraps
but it didn't seem as sturdy as the outward-pointing one I
learned from the (defunct) VV web site. I don't know if a complete
piece would stay together.

Have fun
Alan





From: Phil and Amy <sgt.schulz@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 22:42
Subject: Re: Double-blintzed frog base? Is that a word?

Well, I figured out how to unfold the blintzes to get enough points to make
Uchiyama's crab.  That is to say, I did it once, and I'm afraid to try it
again :-)  I shouldn't say that I duplicated it, since I kinda mashed the
eyestalks and claws into approximate position, but the goal I was aiming for
was the right number of appendages...

When I first got 'Origami Omnibus', I remember flipping through and seeing
that crab.  I was just stunned that somebody could make something of that
complexity.  Of course, now I'm  a little stunned that I managed to do it
myself!  That's what I like about Kasahara's writing.  He inspires me by
leaving little unanswered challenges in his books.

Phil

sgt.schulz@worldnet.att.net
Animal stories  &  Origami Star Wars at:
http://home.att.net/~sgt.schulz/





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 20 Dec 1999 23:29
Subject: Inspiring books (was Re: Double-blintzed frog base)

On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Phil and Amy wrote:

> That's what I like about Kasahara's writing.  He inspires me by
> leaving little unanswered challenges in his books.

Agreed! Kasahara encourages you to become an active folder, seek meaning
behind the folds, explore, create, extend yourself. Kasahara books seem to
me to be more about sharing origami as an experience, rather than simply
providing model instructions.

Now that I've stopped singing Kasahara's praises once again, I would like
to hear others' inspirational books, and their reasons.

regards
Michael





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 20 Dec 1999 23:40
Subject: Re: little round papers from pleated candy cups

I'm accumulating some of those round papers that come in boxes of
chocolates. Do I have to throw them away? What about a unit, say for a
wreath? Yes, I know, when you fold a circle you have a straight line, but
maybe there's something after all?
--Elise

Re: Little round papers from candy in boxes.  A very long time ago someone
showed me how to make a captains hat from one of these and put it on his
pinky and called it a pinky hat.  I once did this on my T.V. show and made a
little magic marker face on my pinky and it really looked cute.  You fold the
circle in half, fold the two top corners down to the middle, and then fold
the two little flaps at the bottom up.  And there's your pinky hat.  Let me
know if anyone tries it and gets the same kick out of it that I do.  It's so
cute!  Happy Holidays to all my dear Origami friends. Dorigami





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 21 Dec 1999 06:07
Subject: Sv:      Where's Otto??????

I, the G&GKOTN, stand corrected
by myself, by the way,
which pleases me.

I found Otto Nordstrom in the INDEX (Bos Booklet 23)
I had looked only under N for Nordstrom
but he was hidden away under O - for Otto Nordstrom
and there is says that there ARE  more reports from Otto
in Numbers 84, 85, 86 and identity revealed in no. 87

but it isn't ? It is a poetic puzzle ????

which I haven't solved yet

Greetings from The great and Glorious Kalmon of the North





From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Date: 21 Dec 1999 08:33
Subject: Re: Inspiring books (was Re: Double-blintzed frog base)

On 21-Dec-99, Michael Janssen-Gibson (mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU) wrote:

>Now that I've stopped singing Kasahara's praises once again, I would like
>to hear others' inspirational books, and their reasons.

Ok, forgetting OO and OftC, my favorite books include J.C. Nolan's
'Creating Origami' and Peter Engel's 'Folding the Universe' for text
more than models, Paul jackson's 'Origami - a Complete Step-by-step
Guide' because it was my first book and got me hooked, and Dave
Brill's 'Brilliant Origami' because of the models which make me
struggle away from my technical approach to try and get some life into
them.

I have many other nice books, and there are even more nice books I
don't have.  Not all of them are about origami either - if I had to
choose my favorite book for inspiration it would be either M.C. Escher
picture book or 'The Complete Winnie the Pooh'.

--
Jorma "inspire me" Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

Weyland-Yutani - Building Better Worlds





From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Date: 21 Dec 1999 08:33
Subject: Re: Where's Otto?

On 20-Dec-99, Paul Jackson (Mpjackson@BTINTERNET.COM) wrote:

>However, of particular interest is the model of Lake
>Porttipahdan-tekojarvi -- the instructions come complete with a
>compass to show north, such is its topographic accuracy.  I've just
>checked the shape of the lake in my 'Times Atlas of the World'
>(seventh edition 1985) and can testify as to the accuracy of this
>model.  Check it for yourself, map reference 68.05N 26.30E.  One
>wonders how the ancients knew the shape of the lake so accurately
>*from the air*.  Could they fly?  Were aliens the first paper
>folders?

Even more mystery comes from the fact that the Lake Porttipahta is an
artificial lake, created 1970, to provide water for the power plant
at the south end of it.

So the ancient shamans did not only fly, they also saw into the
future.  Somehow that doesn't impress me much.

--
Jorma "not so ancient" Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

Weyland-Yutani - Building Better Worlds





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 21 Dec 1999 09:10
Subject: Re: Round units?

Elise (dataylor@Earthlinks.net) wrote:

> I'm accumulating some of those round papers that come in boxes of
>  chocolates. Do I have to throw them away? What about a unit, say for a
>  wreath? Yes, I know, when you fold a circle you have a straight line, but
>  maybe there's something after all?

Around 1968 Keinichi Fukuda wrote (in English) at least ten books of "Sunny
Origami". The sub-titles of the respective books were:

Angel Book;  Swan Book;  Bow-wow Book;  Lion Book;  Frog Book;  Cat Book;
The Life of Buddha;  The Life of Shinran Shonin;  The Lfe of Jesus Christ;
and Little Red Riding Hood.

These were colourful horizontal format books ostensibly for children, bound
with tie cords at the spines. The publishers were Nomo Kakagu Kogyosha and
the distributors, Japan Publications Trading Company. They dated from the
days before Japanese books were given ISBN Numbers, but the books do have
Library of Congress Catalog Card Numbers. The books came with packets of
circular papers of various sizes.

I also have a much more recent book, in Japanese apparently by the same
author.Unfortunately I cannot lay my hands on it quickly and I do not have
the date of publication in my notes, but I acquired it around 1994. It is:

Kei Fukuda:  Marui Origami.  (Circle Origami).

Like some of Isao Honda's books, Fukuda's books are very colourful and
cheerful, but the origami is very simple. In fact there is little true
origami, but merely a pasting together of circles to make pictures.

I have another possible reference, but it may turn our to be a will o' the
wisp. John Cunliffe told me about it in March 1996, but he was somewhat vague
about it. He said that Kunihiko Kasahara had a section on circular origami in
one of his books. John said he thought that the book was called "New
Directions in Origami".

I have mny of Kaahara's books, but not one of this name. I have looked in
other books by Kashara (Origami Omnibus, Top Origami and Vivsa Origami and
others, but I have been unable to find anything about folding from circular
paper. I can only conclude that it was another author or that the title was
different or that John was mistaken. A query in Origami-L didn't lead to a
single reply. So, for the second time of asking, can anyone give me any
information or suggest a lead?

As Elise point out, when you fold a circle you get a straight line. The same
patterns are generated as when folding from a square. Folders have generally
been pessimistic about being able to develop  truly creative kind of origami
from circular paper.

However, there was a short discussion about this in Origami-L in December
1996. Some contibutors to the discussion could dimly perceive that there was
a possiblility of developing a new kind of origami different from the
familiar kind used for squares rectangles and other polygons.

My own hazy perception is that such a development would use a different kind
of geometry. It might be in 3-D. It might use spiralling creases. It might
incorporate induced curves.It might be linkd to some kind of tessellattions.
But clearly it would be different from plane origami folded from a square.

Robert Lang joined in the discussion in a posting dted 7th December 1996 in
which he wrote:

"I think the reason there aren't many origami models from circles is not that
circles are inherently less suitabale than squares for origami. It's that
folks haven't really tried to exploit the unique attributes of the circle.
Instead they've tried to use the same techniques that they have used on
squares. As any good mathematician will tell you, squaring the circle doesn't
work very well.

"Even among more conventional origami, there are some models that work better
from a circle than from a square. For example in 'Origami Sea Life' there's a
sea urchin based on a square tessellation that is one of a family of sea
urchins with 4, 16, 25, 36 etc. spines. There's another family of sea urchins
based on a hexagonal tessellation with 7,19, 37, etc. spines: and the
hexagonal pattern fits more neatly into a circle than it does into  a
square."

Research into this new origami would probably require experiment with larger
circles than those used to wrap up chocolates!  It might well be easier to
design a module folded from a circle wheich could be used to build up modular
origami creations in he usual way.

But I would urge anyone who may feel like experimenting in a new direction to
discover a new circular origami to make the effort. He or she could possibly
make one of the biggest discoveries yet in paperfolding and add immensely to
our understanding of the potentialities of folded paper

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com.





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 21 Dec 1999 10:01
Subject: Re: Where's Otto?

Paul Jackson <Mpjackson@BTINTERNET.COM> sez

>Mr Nordstrom writes knowledgably of traditional
>northern Finnish paper folding

It's a shame he didn't extend his work into Southern Finland, since
that's where my great-great Grandfather (himself a folder) lived!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@purplepeople.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 21 Dec 1999 10:01
Subject: Re: Inspiring books (was Re: Double-blintzed frog base)

Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU> sez

>Now that I've stopped singing Kasahara's praises once again, I would like
>to hear others' inspirational books, and their reasons.

I agree whole-heartedly about Kasahara. One of my other early inspirers
was and remains Philip Shen. His BOS booklet would be on my required
reading list for any new folders. If you want to learn about working
*with* paper rather than forcing it into shape, check out Shen's work.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email          nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage                www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk

Pre-1960's Ladybird books always wanted!





From: Kim Sisk <KSisk24931@AOL.COM>
Date: 21 Dec 1999 10:11
Subject: Origami Omnibus

I purchased Origami Omnibus yesterday from a local bookstore. I've only been
doing origami for a couple of weeks now, but I can't fold a single model in
this book (except maybe the peacock). Am I just stupid or is Omnibus too
difficult for the beginner?

Kim





From: "Melissa D. Johnson" <johnsonm@ACU.EDU>
Date: 21 Dec 1999 10:21
Subject: Bits of Smith URL and Twist-Fold Question

I was wondering if I could get the new URL to Bits of Smith. This one
(http://www.paston.co.uk/users/jon.pure/bitsofsmith.htm) does not work. I
deleted the message that had the URL in it from Mr. Smith, and I deleted
it from my browser's history.

I finally managed to figure out the twist-folding box (Kenneway's
"Complete Origami" pg. 178) thanks to the suggestions made by several from
this list. How do you get the inside bottom to look a little more
attractive, though? Did I do something wrong again?

Melissa Dawn :)
http://MelissaDawn.Johnson.org/
Origami site http://venus.twu.edu/~LS557302JM/ will move to above URL in
Jan. 2000

***********************************************************************
"Whenever we moved the first things we did were join the church and get
our library card."   --John Grisham





From: Kellydunn2@AOL.COM
Date: 21 Dec 1999 11:19
Subject: Re: Origami Omnibus

In a message dated 12/21/99 7:11:22 AM, KSisk24931@AOL.COM writes:

<< is Omnibus too
difficult for the beginner?
 >>

Maybe, try other books too.
I really like Eric Kenneway's Complete Origami. It's a wonderful
beginner book because it has lots of interesting stories in the margins about
history and other notes:)! It's an excellent overview of origami and explains
basic folding.
Kelly





From: BoBtheSchmo@AOL.COM
Date: 21 Dec 1999 11:49
Subject: Re: Origami Omnibus

unsubcribe origami Andrew wang





From: Papa Joe <papajoe@CHORUS.NET>
Date: 21 Dec 1999 13:08
Subject: Re: Round units?

> Elise (dataylor@Earthlinks.net) wrote:
>
> > I'm accumulating some of those round papers that come in boxes of
> >  chocolates. Do I have to throw them away? What about a unit, say for a
> >  wreath? Yes, I know, when you fold a circle you have a straight line,
but
> >  maybe there's something after all?

The book "The Magic of Origami" ISBN 0-87040-624-8 has two models folded
from a circular paper a "Rocking Bird" (chicken) and "Nun"

Joe





From: Papa Joe <papajoe@CHORUS.NET>
Date: 21 Dec 1999 13:19
Subject: Re: Bits of Smith URL and Twist-Fold Question

Subject: Bits of Smith URL and Twist-Fold Question

> I was wondering if I could get the new URL to Bits of Smith. This one
> (http://www.paston.co.uk/users/jon.pure/bitsofsmith.htm) does not work. I
> deleted the message that had the URL in it from Mr. Smith, and I deleted
> it from my browser's history.

The new URL is
http://www.users.waitrose.com/~pureland

> I finally managed to figure out the twist-folding box (Kenneway's
> "Complete Origami" pg. 178) thanks to the suggestions made by several from
> this list. How do you get the inside bottom to look a little more
> attractive, though? Did I do something wrong again?
>
> Melissa Dawn :)

The bottom should look the same as the top, if not then something is wrong.

Papa (Come on baby, lets do the twist) Joe





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 21 Dec 1999 13:36
Subject: Re: Origami Omnibus

At 10:09 AM 12/21/1999 EST, you wrote:
>I purchased Origami Omnibus yesterday from a local bookstore. I've only been
>doing origami for a couple of weeks now, but I can't fold a single model in
>this book (except maybe the peacock). Am I just stupid or is Omnibus too
>difficult for the beginner?
>
>Kim
>
>
Hi Kim,

You've got a wonderful book for when you've become a more experienced folder,
and you are not stupid just because the models in this book seem hard now.  I
do advise you to pick up Origami Made Easy or is it Easy Origami by Kasahara,
or Kenneway's Complete Origami is another great one for somebody new to
origami.

Ria
