




From: Kevin Kinney <kkinney@MED.UNC.EDU>
Date: 07 Dec 1999 14:10
Subject: Origami in Barron's

Saw the front page of Barron's newspaper/magazine today- the cover story was
"All eyes on Japan" or something like that, and it had pics of an origami
Bull and Bear.  Have these been spotted before?  And who wants to take
credit for them?

(Sorry, I didn't want to spend 3.50 on a periodical useful only as newsprint
otherwise)

Kevin Kinney





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 07 Dec 1999 14:29
Subject: Re: Help with the crane

>>>>
and things are OK. until the very end where you pull the wings
away and the body inflates...my cranes look like very fat Thanksgiving
turkeys!
<<<<

Hi Kemara, and welcome to the fold!

    Computer paper should work fine for the crane... try this. Hold the
wings close to the body and gently roll them away from each other while
keeping pressure on the sides under the wings. This should keep it from
exploding, and the top should open out and round up nicely.

    Good luck, and enjoy!

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Terrence Rioux <trioux@WHOI.EDU>
Date: 07 Dec 1999 16:18
Subject: Still Can't Access OUSA Website

Hi All,

A while back I asked if the OUSA website (http://www.origami-usa.org/)
was still up, as I've not been able to access it.  A number of persons
wrote back that it is indeed still up.  The IP number we've been trying
is 207.67.14265.  Anybody have a different number?  Please respond via
private email, as this is probably not too fascinating for the non-geeky
majority out there.

Thanx,

Terry Rioux





From: Herman Lau <hlau@ARB.CA.GOV>
Date: 07 Dec 1999 16:37
Subject: Re: dragons, please.

Dan Gries wrote:

> in preparation for the new year, i would like to find a nice dragon model.
> preferably a somewhat complex one.  also, i like one square paper, uncut.

There is a "Kasahara-Neale" dragon by Robert Lang from an uncut square.  It's a
western dragon.  The model combines the body of a Neale Dragon with the head of
     a
Kasahara Dragon for a nice mythical effect.  It's not quite a complex model so
     it
might be exactly what you're looking for.  It appeared in one of the West Coast
Origami Guild Newsletters in the mid 80's.  It might be in the archives
somewhere, or maybe in one of the OUSA model manuals, or you might want to
contact the WCOG.

Herman





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 07 Dec 1999 16:47
Subject: [NO] Re: Still Can't Access OUSA Website

At 16:17 99/12/07 -0500, Terry Rioux wrote:
>A while back I asked if the OUSA website (http://www.origami-usa.org/)
>was still up, as I've not been able to access it.  A number of persons
>wrote back that it is indeed still up.  The IP number we've been trying
>is 207.67.14265.  Anybody have a different number?  Please respond via
>private email, as this is probably not too fascinating for the non-geeky
>majority out there.

GEEK ALERT!
For everyone out there who are not having problems accessing the OUSA
website and who are not interested in Internet addressing, please stop
reading now.

I did a DNS lookup and came up with the following information:

Name:    www.origami-usa.org
Served by:
- CYMRU.LHT.COM
          207.67.143.250
          ORIGAMI-USA.ORG
- NS1.ATMNET.NET
          207.67.247.4
          ORIGAMI-USA.ORG

So somehow your address is wrong. However, if the DNS at your site is
configured properly, you should not need the IP address. The domain name
should suffice (i.e. <www.origami-usa.org>).

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Lynch Family <deenbob@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: 07 Dec 1999 17:00
Subject: Re: fireproof paper

Thanks to one and all regarding information on the "fireproof" paper. I
certainly have some things to think about now. I used regular Japanese
foil to make some table centerprices for a friend's wedding a year ago,
and after holding a several pieces over flames (folded and unfolded) and
watching them smolder before bursting into flame, I talked her out of
using candles underneath the centerpieces!

Dee





From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@FANTASYFARM.COM>
Date: 07 Dec 1999 17:19
Subject: Re: [NO] Re: Still Can't Access OUSA Website

On 7 Dec 99, at 13:42, Joseph Wu wrote:

> At 16:17 99/12/07 -0500, Terry Rioux wrote:
> >A while back I asked if the OUSA website (http://www.origami-usa.org/)
> >was still up, as I've not been able to access it.  A number of persons
> >wrote back that it is indeed still up.  The IP number we've been trying
> >is 207.67.14265.  Anybody have a different number?  Please respond via
> >private email, as this is probably not too fascinating for the non-geeky
> >majority out there.

MORE GEEK ALERT...

I haven't paid attention to this, but Joseph's comment is correct:

> So somehow your address is wrong. However, if the DNS at your site is
> configured properly, you should not need the IP address. The domain name
> should suffice (i.e. <www.origami-usa.org>).

What's wrong about your address is that a 'dot' is missing.  Not '14265'
but rather:

[bernie@mercury bernie]$ host www.origami-usa.org
www.origami-usa.org has address 207.67.142.65

that is, '142.65'.  It is not well known that the 'dot separated' form of
an IP address is more flexible than most folk realize.  207.65.14265 is a
perfectly *legal* IP address.  Written in its more common form that
address is 207.65.55.185.

SUPER DUPER GEEK ALERT:

An IP address is a 32-bit number.  That's all.  By convention, and for
the convenience of the relatively few folk [when DNS is working properly]
who have to deal with them directly, an IP number is expressed in
'octets', represented by their decimal equivalents.  An octet (8 bits) is
a numbe from 0->255 and as 32 = 4*8 what you always see is 01.02.03.04
for normal representation of the the four octets of an IP address.

BUT: there's an embellishment.  The *real* form of an IP address is some
number of octets followed by the *rest* of the IP address.  So if you
have three leading octets, the last number is "what's left" or 32-24 =
eight bits [another octet].  And so you have four legal "decimalized"
forms of IP addresses:
   A.B.C.D     all four are octets [0 => 256]
   A.B.C       A,B octets, C represents 16 bits [0 => 65,535]
   A.B         A an octet, B represents 24 bits [0 => 16,777,215]
   A           A represents all 32 bits [0 => lots]

If you've been following this blather, then you'll see straight out why
207.67.14265 is the same as the IP address that address is 207.65.55.185.
the 14265 covers the last two octets of the address, and so must be 256
times the next-to-lasst octet plus the bottommost octet.
   (55 * 256) + 185  = 14265

Now, promise us all that you'll not type any more numeric IP addresses
and just rely on DNS lookups, yes?  :o)

  /Bernie\
--
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mailto:bernie@fantasyfarm.com     Pearisburg, VA
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From: P Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 07 Dec 1999 17:34
Subject: New Model!

Hi All!

I just finished putting up the fan tailed dollar bill dragon on my web
page!
Now you can leave the appropriate tip next month for next year if
everything else doesn't fall apart!!

Perry
--
"Hope is a little thing
with feathers
perched in the soul all day,
it does it's little business
and then it flies away!"

Victor Buono from "It could be verse"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!
Icq 23622644





From: Karen Reeds <reeds@OPENIX.COM>
Date: 07 Dec 1999 22:55
Subject: lucky balls

>Date:    Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:47:42 EST
>From:    Kellydunn2@AOL.COM
>Subject: Re: cry for help..
>
>This weekend, I was folding a star in gold foil, two hours into it,
>when a two year old took my chair (more like demanded I "mooove!" with
>intent;
>and a "this is very important" serious look in her eyes).
>First, she reorganized my paper, then worked on the star,
>crunched it into a ball, rolled it,
>then reached her arm up to me to give it back,
>and said, "it's lucky."
>And, moved on to make other lucky balls, with a technique that takes less than
>a minute per sheet.
>so help? or have I already been helped?
>very lucky,
>Kelly





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 08 Dec 1999 09:01
Subject: Happy barfday Perry/UK 'bill' folds

>Well there are several dragons on my web page and if I can ever get the
>diagrams finished I have a fan tailed dragon from a dollar bill I want
>to put up.  No don't go looking for the fan tail he isn't through yet
>but I will tell the list when I am done with the diagramming and put it
>on the site.  Sorry to be so late for this month but the 5th was my
>birthday and between that and turkey day I just have had time!
>
>Perry

Many happy returns...the new dragon model looks rather nice. You must start
posting #5 and #10 versions as the #1 coin in the UK prooves rather
difficult to fold.

Stephen

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From: Lory <lory@NETSIS.IT>
Date: 08 Dec 1999 17:37
Subject: Jeremy Shafer & BARF

Hi,

I've tried to contact Jeremy about join BARF but I haven't receive
reply. I've also noticed (in BARF web site) there are back issue until
1998, nothing in 1999.
Could anyone help me?

Thanks a lot,
Lorenzo

 ----------------------------------------
   Lorenzo Lucioni       lory@netsis.it
   Parma, Italy             ICQ: 397363





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: 08 Dec 1999 17:48
Subject: Re: Jeremy Shafer & BARF

I have subscribed to BARF in the past and I never got any notice that
my subscribtion went through, the issues would just start comming
without warning.   If you subscribed already then just wait and the issues
should come eventually.   Regarding the back issues, maybe they just
haven't placed them up on the web site yet?

>
> Hi,
>
> I've tried to contact Jeremy about join BARF but I haven't receive
> reply. I've also noticed (in BARF web site) there are back issue until
> 1998, nothing in 1999.
> Could anyone help me?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Lorenzo
>
>
>
>  ----------------------------------------
>    Lorenzo Lucioni       lory@netsis.it
>    Parma, Italy             ICQ: 397363
>  ----------------------------------------
>
>
>

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 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |  Fridays 7:00pm Central
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From: "JacAlArt ." <jacalart@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 08 Dec 1999 18:11
Subject: Re: Jeremy Shafer & BARF

Jeremy travels a lot. It's possible there was no response because he's out
of the country. I've subscribed (and submitted diagrams) for 3 years and
issues have always come. Realize that they come quarterly and not monthly.

>From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Jeremy Shafer & BARF
>Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:47:23 CST
>
>I have subscribed to BARF in the past and I never got any notice that
>my subscribtion went through, the issues would just start comming
>without warning.   If you subscribed already then just wait and the issues
>should come eventually.   Regarding the back issues, maybe they just
>haven't placed them up on the web site yet?
>
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've tried to contact Jeremy about join BARF but I haven't receive
> > reply. I've also noticed (in BARF web site) there are back issue until
> > 1998, nothing in 1999.
> > Could anyone help me?
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> > Lorenzo
> >
> >
> >
> >  ----------------------------------------
> >    Lorenzo Lucioni       lory@netsis.it
> >    Parma, Italy             ICQ: 397363
> >  ----------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>--
>  Douglas Zander                |  Watch "FarScape" on the SciFi Channel
>  dzander@solaria.sol.net       |  Fridays 7:00pm Central
>  Shorewood, Wisconsin, USA     |

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From: Viranga Ratnaike <viranga@MDS.RMIT.EDU.AU>
Date: 08 Dec 1999 20:00
Subject: approaches to creativity ?

Hi,

        I apologise for the vagueness of the following; I'm not sure
        how to accurately phrase my query.

        How does one become creative or at least proficient?  How do
        I progress from an idea to an implementation?

        I've been folding for many years (admittedly sporadically)
        Unfortunately most of my folding requires having a book in
        front of me and most times I still don't produce the attempted
        model.

        I can fold a few things from memory tho' only simple models.
        The most complicated thing I ever folded from memory was the
        jackstone.

        But I've only ever created something by accident.  How do you
        see something in real life and determine how to start folding
        a paper representation of it?

        Do you just have to remember lots and lots of bases?  How do
        you create a new base?

        I'd be happy with being able to modify existing designs.  For
        example, even the fox variation in Kasahara's "Origami Omnibus"
        p.255 is beyond me.  Or the different (2-piece) monkey variations
        that are pictured in Akira Yoshizawa's "Origami VOL.2" ummm...
        it's a thin 1969 publication (froebel-kan, Tokyo Japan).

        I know this is a bit like asking someone to explain how to be
        musically talented or for simple steps to achieve inspiration.

        I was just wondering if there are techniques for determining how
        to fold things.

Regards,

        Viranga

P.S.  If there are origami enthusiasts in Melbourne (who wouldn't mind
        folding with someone more enthuastic than skillful : )  I'd
        like to meet.  The closest origami club I'm aware of is in
        Perth (4000km away).





From: laurie reynolds <laurie_reynolds@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 08 Dec 1999 21:12
Subject: origami sighting - who designed the rooster?

Hello,

Anyone know who designed the rooster that is being
used
in the San Jose Mercury News (california, usa) ads -
in the paper and on billboards locally.

Sorry, i don't think it is online, so am relying on
people who have seen it.

laurie
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From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 01:03
Subject: Re: dragons, please.

On 07-Dec-99, Dan Gries (dangries@MATH.OHIO-STATE.EDU) wrote:
>in preparation for the new year, i would like to find a nice dragon model.

As already mentioned, Fernando Gilgado Gomez's book has three dragons,
but my favorites are Neale's dragon (also alredy mentioned) and
Kasahara's dragon from Origami Omnibus.

I remember Peter Budai having eastern dragon, but it might be in his
NEXT book.

--
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From: Stephen Tran <stephogami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 01:14
Subject: Useful Styrofoam!

Hello there "kitties!"

My Library Origami class was great.  What a turn out, parents and kids all
in the same room folding their "hearts out."  We made some wonderful
sailboats which I thought were very colourful but when I took a few steps
back away from the table to take a picture.....Wow!  Our table looked like
the annual "Swiftsure Sailboat Race."

On another topic, I've been meaning to post this on the list for awhile but
am not sure if it has been discussed in the past.  The month of July that
had just past, I went to NY with my folks.  While flying to Toronto from
Victoria BC (that's Canada), I notice the stewardess were serving us food
with what looked like "thin sheets of styrofoam" for the tray of food to
rest on.  I decided to fold a flapping crane.  To my surprise, the sheet of
styrofoam held the model together.  It was light and fit for an action
model.  Has anyone try this before??

*Paper-man*

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From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 08:44
Subject: Re: approaches to creativity ?

>
>         I apologise for the vagueness of the following; I'm not sure
>         how to accurately phrase my query.
>
>         How does one become creative or at least proficient?  How do
>         I progress from an idea to an implementation?
>
>
>         Viranga
>

Hi there,

I'm on the other side of the planet from melboure...sorry!

As for creating, as one who is starting to come up with designs that go down
pretty well at exhibitions or on display, I can give you a few hints and
tips:

1) Fold everything that you can get your fingertips on. Be it web pages,
books, etc. Especially designs by the same person, such as John Montroll,
who has published a terrific output.

2) Look for similarities, or _bases_. The traditional bases, such as the
bird base and frog base are fine for simple models, but there are other
_bases_ out there. For example, Montroll's Dog base is a 50-odd step base
that creates a body, four long legs, a long flap for a head, and a short
tail. With this, you can probably create half the animal kingdom! His
'brontosaurus base' creates four medium legs, and a long flap for a tail and
another for a head. This too can be modified; the unicorn on my web page is
based on this base.

Other bases that I like - Montroll, Base for dog and most of the mammals in
zodiac origami
                        - Lang, Base for grasshopper, murex, also used by
Marc Kirschenbaum in his crab designs on his web page
                        - Montroll, base for long horned goat in north
american origami, used for boar in Zodiac origami, etc
                        - Lang, Orb weaver - creates a base with 8 long
points loosely based on the frog base. Some other points can be tucked out
from the model to create heads, mandibles, etc

3) Analyse heads and legs. This may seem odd, but it will help you. See how
a designer creates part of an animal. Then get a scrap of paper, and play
with it...can you fold the leg or head you are after? Can you turn that
single point into three toes? How can you create ears AND a mouth? Some of
my best designs have arisen from toying with a sheet of paper, and trying to
modify someone elses folds.

4) Set yourself targets. I am currently designing a set of dinosaurs, and
have chosen an array, and am trying to put designs for all of them. I am not
shying away from any particular model, no matter how difficult. As a result,
the floor of my room is littered with dozens of failed styracosauruses, each
of which having too few horns, too short horns, legs the wrong shape, etc.
Finally, I came up with a design based on folding a square into thirds that
gives it just the right pose, six long horns plus four smaller horns, a
snout, ridges above the eyes, back legs longer than the front ones, etc. And
Im pleased. I dont know how long its going to take to diagram...its got over
100 steps, but at least Ive done it. And now my floor is getting littered
with deformed stegosaurii...

5) After you have designed a few simple models, try to diagram them. This
isnt easy, and it takes a lot of time. However, it helps. First of all, it
stops you forgetting the model. Secondly, it forces you to look at each fold
properly and to make sure that it works, and that you havent just 'forced'
the paper into shape. Thirdly, you can distribute the model, and get credit
for it. Or at least a few e-mails a month asking 'How do you do step 17?'
which is what I seem to get :-)

Good luck, and dont stop trying!

In the future, I may try and post a few 'bases' on my web page...but dont
hold your breath...

Stephen

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From: Doug and Anna Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 10:56
Subject: About paper [long]

>I'm very new to origami (just started looking at info on the web). I've been
>trying to fold the traditional crane and as I have no origami paper yet, I'm
>using computer paper cut into squares. I found 2 different sets of
>instructions, and things are OK. until the very end where you pull the wings
>away and the body inflates...my cranes look like very fat Thanksgiving
>turkeys! :) Could it be that the paper I'm using is too thick? Besides real
>origami paper, what other papers work well for folding?
>
>Thanks,
>Kemara

I'll address the paper question.  Over the course of this list, we have
discussed folding all sorts of things.

For folds that aren't too complex, ordinary printer or typing paper is
inexpensive and works well.  If you follow the links at Oriland to
http://www.icomm.ru/home/origami/info/paper/paper.htm
you can see the paper they use is a colored printer paper.  It can be
squared up easily enough by making a diagonal crease from one edge and
trimming off the excess.

Newspaper is used in a few folds, but is a little brittle for regular
folding.  Same with construction paper, which also tends to be too thick.
Pages from magazines can be good, and sometimes have interesting effects
from their patterns.

Mette Pederson has used post-its for some of her rings.  See
http://www.mette.pederson.com/ for more info.  And there are many sites
about folding business cards or money as well.

Gift wrap is another popular choice.  These days, some rolls marketed as
wrap are plastic instead of paper, and those don't work well.  But paper
wrap has the advantages of coming in larger sizes than precut squares, for
complex folding.  Lighter weight but crisp is excellent for general folds.
Heavier and beautifully patterned makes sturdy and attractive Fuse boxes,
and saves money over precut squares (and frustration over trying to find
enough matching patterns for them.)  Cutting it yourself has been another
long series of discussions on the list.  Try searching the archives for
messages that include cut* and exclude fold*.  Foil-backed is very popular,
too.  It adds strength without thickening the paper, so is excellent for
complex folds, though somewhat less forgiving.  Creases on foil remain
visible.

Ultra thin tissue paper is lovely for flowers.  Elephant hide, Washi,
Canson paper and hand made paper from Michael LaFosse wet-mold well.  Tyvek
is strong and crisp, very hard to tear, but some don't like its folding
feel.  Cellophane is the material of choice for David Brill's bottle.
Nylon and metal mesh have their own techniques and interesting looks, but
don't serve as general purpose materials.  Starched cloth works.

If you can crease it, someone has probably tried it.:)  No doubt I've
missed some.

So, folks, what are your top 10 papers?  :)

Anna

Anna Weathers, Portland, Oregon, USA
"In paradox truth."





From: DonnaJowal@AOL.COM
Date: 09 Dec 1999 10:58
Subject: Reprise:  rhododendron

The last time everyone was asking about the rhododendron I said that I would
look for the diagrams so that I could tell you whose design it is.  The
creator is Kyoko Enemoto from Japan.

Donna Walcavage





From: Kellydunn2@AOL.COM
Date: 09 Dec 1999 12:07
Subject: Re: About paper

In a message dated 12/9/99 7:56:30 AM, Anna writes:

<< So, folks, what are your top 10 papers? >>

10. The wax backed paper on restaurant tables
  9.  Nature magazines
  8.  Post it's...the sticky part is ridiculous!
  7.  colored poster board for LARGE things
  6.  music sheets, with music notes and song
  5.  Tracing, graph paper (color yourself!), and colored notebook paper
  4.  receipts and tickets
  3.  silver foil inside of gum wrappers, silver foil in larger chocolate bars
  2.  glow in the dark paper!
  1.  Hersey's miniature chocolate bar wrappers
       and all the different origami paper
       and handmade wrapping paper





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 12:15
Subject: Lesson plan

    have been asked to do some folding with a high school sophomore geometry
class. Given the limited time (90 minutes) available, does anyone have a
suggestion for simple modulars for geometrics? The Sonobe unit and the 60
degree unit used for the Five Intersecting Tetrahedra are possibilities. Any
other suggestions?

Thanks...

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: David Taylor <dataylor@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 13:00
Subject: Re: About paper

... So, folks, what are your top 10 papers?

I don't have 10 to contribute, but maps are effective for some things; also
memory book paper is sturdy & attractive for boxes.
--Elise





From: dan newman <dnewman@CAPITAL.NET>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 13:42
Subject: Re: About paper

i like the squares (not rolls) of wrapping paper





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 13:48
Subject: Re: About paper

Favorite papers:

10" Kami for first attempts
Japanese foil -- very thin and strong
Monocolor paper from OUSA -- thinner than kami, strong, holds details well
Copier paper
Map paper
Hershey's Miniatures and Hershey's Nuggets wrappers
3" note cube paper for doodling
Uncirculated 1$  bills

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Kim Sisk <KSisk24931@AOL.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 13:54
Subject: Thanks and books

Thanks to everyone who replied to my questions about paper and making the
crane. I found some origami paper at the bookstore and my crane is coming
along nicely (I was folding it wrong!). I can make quite a few simple things
now, but I've discovered that origami could be very addictive! :) My hands
just itch to fold something...... I'd like to get some books about origami
for Christmas, can anyone recommend good ones for a beginner?

Kemara





From: Rob Hudson <FashFold@AOL.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 15:36
Subject: Re: Lesson plan

Tom Hull had a modular with relatively simple modules that formed a
dodecahedron-type-shape.  It was published in the 94 or 95 convention book, I
think....

Rob





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 16:49
Subject: Re: About paper

I enjoy non-paper folding--steel, wantons and tortillas for frying, (bonsai?
I consider it folding...) and whatever else I think I can fold, but
photographic backdrop paper for large projects is enjoyable, elephant hide,
washi, and foil each have their own attractions. Most of all I like checking
out hand-made papers from students and craft stores, as I usually decide
projects based upon my whimsy for paper, rather than paper based upon my
whimsy for projects these days. All the best - c!!!

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      I'd try to wash away the dust
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From: Leigh Halford <Leigh451@AOL.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 17:43
Subject: origami sighting

In the new issue of Viz magazine is a spoof advert for 'Tony Hart's Origami
Army Book'. I don't reccomend that you get it if you are easily offended!!

Leigh
http://hometown.aol.com/origami451





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 18:53
Subject: Re: About paper

Christopher Holt wrote:
>
> I enjoy non-paper folding--steel, wantons and tortillas for frying, (bonsai?
> I consider it folding...)

Hey!  How about using wanton sheets to follow that frog in Micheal
LaFosse's video.  But when you get to the part where you stuff it with
tissue paper, you use wanton paste... No!  a mixture of frog leg meat
and cream cheese.  No wait!  The colors wrong.  Food dye?  No!  Before
you start folding you backcoat the wanton sheets with that kelp paper
stuff, using corn starch as your adhesive...

Maybe I should go get something to eat, before I get completely
delirious....

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 19:07
Subject: Re: approaches to creativity ?

>From: Viranga Ratnaike <viranga@MDS.RMIT.EDU.AU>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: approaches to creativity ?
>Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:47:47 +1100
>
>Hi,
>
>         I apologise for the vagueness of the following; I'm not sure
>         how to accurately phrase my query.
>
>         How does one become creative or at least proficient?  How do
>         I progress from an idea to an implementation?

One strategy I have begun to use is first look at a certai subject which you
would like to try to fold.  THen try to draw what you think it should look
like when it is folded out of a piece of paper. This probably wont work too
well for a 3D model but it works fine for flat models especially animals.
After that try to imagine what types of points and how many you would need
to fold each feature.  Then think what type of base or form you could start
with to get all the points in the correct places.  the main thing is to just
keep trying no matter how many times you fail.  You'll get it eventually.

Hope this helps
Collin Weber

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From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 20:19
Subject: Kirigami

Hi all !

Does anybody know if there is a website (or more) specifically devoted to
the topic "kirigami" ?

Thanks,
Roberto





From: Julie Rhodes <kettir@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 20:40
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 8 Dec 1999 to 9 Dec 1999 (#1999-92)

So, is anybody else using Origami in a big way to help celebrate/decorate
for Christmas?  I'm using the Santa from "Origami for Christmas" this year
on the front of our Christmas cards.  40 Santas I have to make!  Ouch!  But
it's always worth it because it will be a card that stands out (no pun
intended).  I'm also making origami animals and flowers for the tree.  I
always have an origami  monkey climbing the top of the tree like King Kong,
and one year I used a devil mask instead of a Christmas star (just to be
ornery).  I'm thinking some origami wreaths from "Origami for Christmas"
would be nice, too.
------------------------------------------------------------<*>---
kettir at         | To conquer others is to wield power.
geocities dot com | To conquer yourself is to know the way.





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 20:42
Subject: Re: About paper

> No!  Before
> you start folding you backcoat the wanton sheets with that kelp paper
> stuff, using corn starch as your adhesive...
>
> Maybe I should go get something to eat, before I get completely
> delirious....
>
> --
> Kim Best                            *******************************

Whoa!, I love the back-coating with sea-weed idea!!!! I've done ginger salad
in crane-shaped wantons, and guacamole in crane tortillas, but steamed fish
inside of kelp-wanton paper is brilliant. If I ever make it, I'll credit you
for the idea, thanks! The frogs' legs in frog wanton sounds like a
problematic nightmare, but basic box and envelope folds make any papillote
item look special. Triangular Fuse boxes made out of butcher paper never
fail to impress when items are steamed in them and presented at the table
still in the box, that first waft of aromatic steam escaping the delicate
paper enclosure is a powerfully harmonious experience. All the culinary
best - c!!!

=================================

      With clear melting dew
      I'd try to wash away the dust
      of this floating world
                                  --Basho





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 21:01
Subject: Re: Kirigami

Hi Roberto,

You inquired about a kirigami website.
Here is Thoki Yenn's page:

http://www.thok.dk/kirigami.html

And John Smith's review of Thoki's "Origami and Kirigami" video:

http://www.bornholmershoppen.dk/videobh/origami.html

Dorothy





From: Pat Ellis <EllisPS@AOL.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 21:24
Subject: Re: Lesson Plan

I enjoy teaching the Rotating Tetrahedron.  Students like it because it's
something with which to play.

If students have not folded before, we fold several simple models first to
get them used to handling the paper and listening to my style of giving
directions.

Pat Ellis
(A Middle School Origami Club Sponsor)





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 21:39
Subject: origami and christmas

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Julie Rhodes wrote:

> So, is anybody else using Origami in a big way to help celebrate/decorate
> for Christmas?

My themed gift for most people this year were framed hinadolls. The
christmas tree is topped by Endla's Star, angels and balls grace the
branches below, and if my guessing ability is still up to scratch, many of
the parcels under the tree have an origami-book look about :-}

I hope to have David Brill's santa and sleigh as a centre-piece for the
table, but this may be a little ambitious at this late stage in the game.

regards
Michael





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 21:50
Subject: Re: Lesson Plan

Pat Ellis wrote:

+I enjoy teaching the Rotating Tetrahedron.  Students like it because it's
+something with which to play.

+If students have not folded before, we fold several simple models first to
+get them used to handling the paper and listening to my style of giving
+directions.

Having something to play with can also make it harder to get the kids to focus
on the next model. Anytime I teach the jumping frog from a rectangle, I have
to save it for last.

A cool simple model is Robert Neale's Magic Ring, which can be found in
Origami Plain and Simple by Robert Neale and Thomas Hull, a great first book
BTW (IMHO), among other places.

-D'gou





From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 21:51
Subject: Re: Lesson plan

Rob Hudson typed:

>>>
Tom Hull had a modular with relatively simple modules that formed a
dodecahedron-type-shape.  It was published in the 94 or 95 convention book, I
think....
<<<

He must be thinking of my Pentagon-Hexagon Zig-Zag Unit (PHiZZ Unit),
which is also available on my web page:
http://web.merrimack.edu/~thull/OrigamiMath.html

However, this model requires 30 pieces of paper and takes about 45-60 min
for a group of students to get through.  I don't recommend doing something
with this many units for a high school class unless you plan to make
them work in groups.

I've had a lot of success teaching the hyperbolic paraboloid to high
school kids.  I usually teach the "3rd iteration" version, where each
"quadrant" of the paper is folded into 8ths.  And for those students
who fold fast (there are always a few) I suggest that they go for
16th.  (Thus everyone ends up finishing at the same time.)  BUT if
you're going to teach this model you HAVE to do the following:

(1) Bring in a BIG one that you've folded yourself - like, from
a 2 foot square folded into 32nds, at least!

(2) Spend a good amount of time discussing WHY this cool-as-hell
model does what it does.  Appropriate answers are:
   (a) The accordian pleats force the sides of the square to remain
       straight as the paper collapses, thus two corner must go "up"
       and two must go "down", or
   (b) By contracting the paper into the center of the square you're
       effectively introducting negative curvature, thus resulting
       in a saddle point, or
   (c) some other explanation I haven't thought of???

Later, taters.

---- Tom "the mad eat alien gods for lunch" Hull
     thull@merrimack.edu





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 22:11
Subject: Re: Thanks and books

Try Steve and Megumi Biddles' "Christmas Origami". It has fairly easy
folds for party accessories (2 paper hats, a crown, place card stand,
napkin folds, etc), gift wrapping, and decorations for the Christmas
tree, table and rooms.

Decorations include Christmas stocking, boot, wreaths, garlands,
poinsetta and heart, snowflakes, candle, mistletoe, holly, snowman, 3D
star, bauble, Santa Claus, Christmas tree, etc, etc, etc. I think you
will find just about all you will want in this book, except the Nativity
scene. A nice, fairly easy one can be found in Robert Harbin's "Secrets
of Origami".

Cheers.

Ron.

Kemara wrote:

 I'd like to get some books about origami
> for Christmas, can anyone recommend good ones for a beginner?





From: Karen Reeds <reeds@OPENIX.COM>
Date: 09 Dec 1999 23:41
Subject: Re: geometry class

>Date:    Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:04:47 -0500
>From:    Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
>Subject: Lesson plan
>
>    have been asked to do some folding with a high school sophomore geometry
>class. Given the limited time (90 minutes) available, does anyone have a
>suggestion for simple modulars for geometrics?

Business card cubes--they are so simple to teach, yet trickier than they
look at first, fun to play with, and they can generate any number of
geometry questions:  how can you guarantee a right angle in the first
folds, why do the first folds always produce a square face or a rhombus
face, can you describe the hooking together step in terms of XYZ
coordinates, how many cards needed to make 2 x 2 cube, 3x 3 cube, a
sponge... HOw many different shapes can you make with 4 cubes... How would
you make a rectangular prism.. How would you make a cube with a side of
root 2?  What's its volume?

Have I filled up 90 minutes yet? Insist on the kids coming up with their
own questions after 30 minutes and challenging each other to solve them.
(Warning: Don't try to teach parallelopipeds. It's too easy to get confused
about right-handed/lefthanded shapes.I speak from experience--I've yet to
get one to work.  )

Karen
reeds@openix.com

PS Don't forget to start with folding a square out of a rectangle and
getting them to explain why it works. Challenge them with irregular scraps
of paper--how to get a square from those. How to fold an equilateral
triangle from a square, a pentagon... How to use one piece of paper as a
ruler to divide a side into x equal parts.





From: Wayne Ko <wko@ISTAR.CA>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 03:42
Subject: Re: approaches to creativity ?

You may want to check out some of the hints on my page at

http://home.istar.ca/~wko/

Check under the Origami Writings link. In particular look under Creating
Origami for some general advice and Birth of the Cross-Wing Fighter for an
analysis of how I put a model together from scratch.

I think every person will have a different and unique approach.  It just
takes a bit of time, patience and practice.

You may want to see if you can find a copy of J C Nolan's Creating Origami -
it is one of the few books that talk about designing origami.  I personally
found this to be an extremely useful and insightful book.

Good luck,

Wayne

Viranga Ratnaike wrote:

>How does one become creative or at least proficient?  How do
>        I progress from an idea to an implementation?





From: Kathryn <hotflash46@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 08:20
Subject: Origami software?

Hello,

I'm new to the list, but not new to origami.

I've been "away from the fold" for a few years,
but now I'm back.  I teach 6th and 7th grade art,
and origami is an important part of my currriculum.

I make sure my students even know about Lillian
Oppenheimer. I was lucky enough to know her the last
few years before she died.  She invited me to visit
her several times and always fed me well!

My students just finished a month-long unit
on origami, and I'm satisfied that I have converted
many young ones into avid folders.

My question is, does any one know of an origami
software program that would be suitable for my
students to use?  The district is willing to
purchase software for an entire class to use on
any subject I might consider appropriate for my
art class.  Of course, the first thing I thought
of was Origami.

TIA for any info...

=====
~         Kathryn

~from the beautiful Hudson valley~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 09:08
Subject: origami and Christmas

Greetings,

For the past 8yrs. I've made origami ornaments for trees I
donate to the tree festival in Hartford at the art museum,
but this year I've only done magic stars, german stars, Sarr
stars, omega stars, cranes, angels, and a Mette Unit wreath
for my own home decorations.  Last year, I made an entire tree
of origami units.

Origami is part of my Christmas tradition.

Cheers,
Ria





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 09:21
Subject: origami and Christmas

>Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 22:11:08 -0500
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>From: John Sutter <sutterj@earthlink.net>
>Subject: origami and Christmas
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>For the past 8yrs. I've made origami ornaments for trees I
>donate to the tree festival in Hartford at the art museum,
>but this year I've only done magic stars, german stars, Sarr
>stars, omega stars, cranes, angels, and a Mette Unit wreath
>for my own home decorations.  Last year, I made an entire tree
>of origami units.
>
>Origami is part of my Christmas tradition.
>
>Cheers,
>Ria





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 09:36
Subject: Re: Origami software?

At 05:08 AM 12/10/1999 -0800, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm new to the list, but not new to origami.
>
>I've been "away from the fold" for a few years,
>but now I'm back.  I teach 6th and 7th grade art,
>and origami is an important part of my currriculum.
>
>I make sure my students even know about Lillian
>Oppenheimer. I was lucky enough to know her the last
>few years before she died.  She invited me to visit
>her several times and always fed me well!
>
>My students just finished a month-long unit
>on origami, and I'm satisfied that I have converted
>many young ones into avid folders.
>
>My question is, does any one know of an origami
>software program that would be suitable for my
>students to use?  The district is willing to
>purchase software for an entire class to use on
>any subject I might consider appropriate for my
>art class.  Of course, the first thing I thought
>of was Origami.
>
>
>TIA for any info...
>
>
>
>
>
>=====
>~         Kathryn
>
>~from the beautiful Hudson valley~
>
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Thousands of Stores.  Millions of Products.  All in one place.
>Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
>
>
Hi Kathryn,

Try the CD by Uri and Katryn Shumakov called ORILAND.  It is in
the archives of the origami list and you can view the site at

http://www.origami.aaanet.ru  or  http://library.advanced.org/27152

It won an educational award by competing in something called Thinkquest.
This CD teaches and entertains and it should be wonderful for your kids!

Ria Sutter





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 09:42
Subject: Oriland CD correction

Hi again Kathryn.

This CD is by Yurii and Katrin Shumakov.
I misspelled their names.  Spelling never
was my forte.

Ria





From: BoyohBoy17@AOL.COM
Date: 10 Dec 1999 11:58
Subject: different origami software

What software can be used for diagramming?  I'd prefer if this would be very
     low-cost software for a budget of around $.37 per year (change stuck in
     the sofa).

Stuart





From: David Taylor <dataylor@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 14:39
Subject: A nonorigimi question (sorry) for Europeans

The question concerns e-mail charges, specifically in France. You see,
several friends here (where e-mail is virtually free) may be considering
sending video or scanned Christmas messages to a friend of ours in France.
Besides the downloading time, would this be expensive to our friends? I
realize I'm asking late, since this group will be meeting tonight, Pacific
Standard Time. If no one can answer soon, never mind--it's my lack of
foresight!--Elise





From: David Taylor <dataylor@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 14:39
Subject: Re: origami and Christmas

An except from Ria...
> Last year, I made an entire tree of origami units.
Ria, what kind of unit did you use?
--Elise





From: origami <listaori@JET.ES>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 15:41
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kawahata=B4s_Yoda_on__National_TV_?=

Hi all:

My WEB has been moved to the follow address (below), you can see the
Kawahatas Yoda on National TV (The news) you can get this image from my web,
please send comments

http://web.jet.es/igmolina

I need Kawahata e-mail could you help me?

Fco Ignacio Molina Gomez
President of Gaditano Origami Group
e-mail:igmolina@jet.es
http://web.jet.es/igmolina





From: Elsje vd Ploeg <evdploeg@BETUWE.NET>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 16:11
Subject: Re: Origami software?

Dear Katryn,
I do not know what you ask :origami software?
I use for all my drawings and diagrams Corel Draw.

xxxxxxxxelsje
http://www.betuwe.net/pepi/





From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 16:13
Subject: Origami ornament hangers

Where does everyone get the ornament hangers for their Origami tree
ornaments?  Also, what does everyone use to attach these?  Do you push it
through one end of the model or glue (gasp) it on or what?

Thanks for any input in advance.

Back from a year and half lurking!!!

Steve Woodmansee
"Peace in Creases"
Bend, Oregon





From: origami <listaori@JET.ES>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 16:22
Subject: correct url of Kawahata`s Yoda

Hi all:

Sorry , sorry I e-mailed a wrong address in my previous e-mail , the correct
     url is:

http://personales.jet.es/igmolina

My WEB has been moved to the follow address (below), you can see the
Kawahatas Yoda on National TV (The news) you can get this image from my web,
please send comments

Thanks a million

Fco Ignacio Molina Gomez
President of Gaditano Origami Group
e-mail:igmolina@jet.es
http://personales.jet.es/igmolina





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 16:51
Subject: Re: Origami ornament hangers

Steve Woodmansee inquired:
> Where does everyone get the ornament hangers for their Origami tree
> ornaments?  Also, what does everyone use to attach these?  Do you push it
> through one end of the model or glue (gasp) it on or what?

I don't know the Advance language, so I'll give you my input in English. ;-)

What I've done so far is use a needle and thread. With the needle at the
midpoint of the thread, I use the standard "tangle it until it knots"
technique to get a knot holding the two ends together, and I keep
tangle-knotting it (Sorry, I'm not sewing enabled, so I don't know the
vocabularly I should be using here. ;-) ) until its bigger than the hole the
needle makes. I then puncture the model near the balance point, pull the
thread through until the knot catches. Then I cut the thread just a bit longer
than I want it to be and make a tangle knot there. I then just hook that loop
over the bottom loop of an ornament hanger, and hang it. If you use a long
enough (but thin!) needle, you can use the needle itself to find the balance
point of many models.

I'm hoping others have better techinques and will post them. I'm particular
keen to hear from folks who do trees every year (OUSA, BOS?)

-D'gou





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 16:51
Subject: Re: Origami ornament hangers

Steve Woodmansee inquired:

"Where does everyone get the ornament hangers for their Origami tree
ornaments? Also, what does everyone use to attach these?..."

I use 2 inch strands of gold or silver mizuhiki to hang Michael
LaFosse's lovely origami holiday wreaths, and attach them discreetly
with double-sided tape (thanks to Anita Barbour for the hot tape tip!).

Dorothy





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 18:18
Subject: Re: Origami ornament hangers

At 12:57 99/12/10 -0800, you wrote:
>Where does everyone get the ornament hangers for their Origami tree
>ornaments?  Also, what does everyone use to attach these?  Do you push it
>through one end of the model or glue (gasp) it on or what?

For models that need to be viewed from a single direction, I use the method
developed by Michael Shall for his holiday trees. Of course, I just heard a
quick description, so I can't be certain that I'm doing it exactly the same
way.

Basically, take a long piece of stiff, thin wire (about 2 feet) and bend it
in half. Take the bent end and twist it into a spiral disk such that the two
ends stick up perpendicularly from the disk. Using a hot glue gun, make a
blob of glue on the back of the model. Press the disk into the glue and let
the glue harden. Now you have two long wires coming out of the back of the
model that can be twisted around a tree branch. The model can then be bent
to whatever viewing angle you desire.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Rob Moes <robmoes@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 18:34
Subject: When Pigs Grow Wings and Fly diagrams

Watch out...this is an oldie!

What ever happened to the diagrams?  Were they once online and now taken
down?  I could not find them anywhere.  I saved this list post from 3 years
ago...would very much appreciate the diagrams if anyone still has them.
Feel free to write me directly if you wish.

On Dec. 12, 1996 Jean Villemaire wrote:
+Mark Morden wrote:
+> This is the one you've been waiting for.  With the kind permission of
+> Joseph Wu, I have posted diagrams of his model "When Pigs Grow Wings and
+> Fly."
+Thank you so much for this early Christmas gift.  My daughter is a pig
+maniac.  She collects anything bearing a twisted tail and a snout.  She was
+rolling in mud after I gave her this model ! :-)  Rear legs are real ham and
+the chin is so realistic, the animal almost slavered while I was completing
+the wings !  So BRAVO ! to Joseph for your peculiar idea (a pig with wings...
+How about a caterpillar wearing headphones ?) and Mark for your easy to
+follow diagrams (except for step 6, where I had to guess, and 13 to 19 I had
+to start over four times - what does that W in a circle stand for anyway?).

Doug Philips wrote:

>Agreed, Kudos to Joseph for that model, and for allowing it to be diagrammed.
>;-)  Thanks Mark for doing it.  I haven't folded it from the diagrams yet.
>I do have an amusing story about that model though.  I first learned it from
>Joseph at the '95 convention during an after-hours session.  But I never got
>around to refolding it while in NYC and so I forgot how, and I was not about
>to unfold the only one I had! (Yeah, I know, its a personal flaw.)  At the '96
>convention I again learned this model, but from a woman in the Vancouver
>group.  The funny part is that over the course of the entire convention she
>and I could never connect for more than about 20 minutes!  So I learned the
>model a few creases at a time. ;-)  She even gave me a few models as step
>folds!  There were even a few fellow Pittsburghers who were helping me find
>her in the cafeteria - once my sage became known to them.  I think they got as
>much enjoyment out of it as I did! ;-)
>
>Sadly, and to my complete embarassment, I have been unable to recall
>her name.  If you are her, please accept my grateful thanks and profound
>apologies.  If happened to witness my "learning experience" and know who this
>woman is, please write me!

Joseph Wu wrote:

>That would be Elaine Horn since she was the only person from Vancouver this
>year. She didn't tell me about that particular incident, but reported having a
>very good time at Convention. Elaine is not online, but I'll try to arrange to
>have your thanks passed on to her. Incidentally, it was partially through
>Elaine that I got in touch with Mark Morden in the first place. He had seen
>some of her magnificent renditions of the Neale dragon with the Kasahara head
>while visiting BC, and, after finding out that I was from Vancouver, e-mailed
>me to ask about them. The rest, as they say, is history.





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 18:47
Subject: Re: When Pigs Grow Wings and Fly diagrams

At 18:33 99/12/10 -0500, you wrote:
>Watch out...this is an oldie!
>
>What ever happened to the diagrams?  Were they once online and now taken
>down?  I could not find them anywhere.  I saved this list post from 3 years
>ago...would very much appreciate the diagrams if anyone still has them.
>Feel free to write me directly if you wish.

Sorry, Rob. I'm a bit behind on my personal email. Here's the URL (still on
Mark Morden's site:

<http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/gallery2.html>

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 19:53
Subject: Re: different origami software

I've tried a number of packages in my time. These include Designer,
Adobe Illustrator, CorelDraw, TurboCAD, etc. I have been using
Macromedia (formerly Aldus) FreeHand for a number of years now, and find
it to be probably the best tool for origami diagramming. It was
recommended to me by Dr Lang, who I believe is still using it.

It fits practically every one of your requirements except the low-cost
bit!

BoyohBoy17@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> What software can be used for diagramming?  I'd prefer if this would be very
     low-cost software for a budget of around $.37 per year (change stuck in
     the sofa).
>
> Stuart





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 10 Dec 1999 20:08
Subject: Re: Origami ornament hangers

In a message dated 12/10/99 6:18:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
josephwu@ULTRANET.CA writes:

<< At 12:57 99/12/10 -0800, you wrote:
 >Where does everyone get the ornament hangers for their Origami tree
 >ornaments?  Also, what does everyone use to attach these?  Do you push it
 >through one end of the model or glue (gasp) it on or what?

 For models that need to be viewed from a single direction, I use the method
 developed by Michael Shall for his holiday trees. Of course, I just heard a
 quick description, so I can't be certain that I'm doing it exactly the same
 way.

 Basically, take a long piece of stiff, thin wire (about 2 feet) and bend it
 in half. Take the bent end and twist it into a spiral disk such that the two
 ends stick up perpendicularly from the disk. Using a hot glue gun, make a
 blob of glue on the back of the model. Press the disk into the glue and let
 the glue harden. Now you have two long wires coming out of the back of the
 model that can be twisted around a tree branch. The model can then be bent
 to whatever viewing angle you desire.
  >>

Hi all!

To decorate the OUSA holiday tree, I used a florist flocked wire which is
green (blends into the tree) and which also bends well.  Most origami models
only require one wire which I coil into a spiral about 1/4" to  1/2" or so
(depending upon the size of the model) and hot glue it into a fold near the
center of the back of the model.  Then I bend the wire 90 degrees and cut a
length about 6-8" from the body.  This is usually more than adequate length
of wire as most models are closely wrapped onto the branches and, as Joseph
Wu already mentioned, can then be adjusted to the correct angle.

This method of decorating a tree is very effective but time-consuming.  Care
must be taken upon attaching and removal of the ornaments because the wire
can damage the models.  Also, storing the models can be a bit of a pain
because you don't want to just put all the models haphazardly in a box since
the wires can damage the other   models.

For public displays, it is also a deterrant for possible origami "lovers" who
would like to help themselves to a "souvenir" from your tree since removal is
a little tricky.

Anyway, I hope this helps answer your question regarding origami ornament
hangers.  :)

Yours,

June Sakamoto





From: "K. A. Lundberg" <klundber@MNSINC.COM>
Date: 10 Dec 1999 20:12
Subject: Re: Origami ornament hangers

I particularly like putting origami candles on my tree which I slip over one
of those old fashion clothes pins (the kind with out the spring) then slip
the clothes pin onto the branches. They stay lit all season with nary a fire
or drip....grin.

Kalei -- klundber@mnsinc.com
http://www.monumental.com/klundber
