




From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: 11 Nov 1999 11:08
Subject: Re: NO: Re: Espaqol

>>From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@ahand.unicamp.br>
>>Subject:      Re: NO: Re: Espaqol

>>set, the 247th simbol is q (lowercase n plus a tilde). The original
>>poster thus typed "espaqol", of course "Spanish". Some narrow-minded
And now I see my _own_ post garbled. Above I meant "espa<n+tilde>ol".
Now I must remember never sending special characters to origami-l.
BTW the "simbol" above was a typo, not a character translation :).

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 11 Nov 1999 11:31
Subject: Re: [Re: Fantastic Origami Bows]

Collin and Anine both asked:
> >WHer are the diagrams for this rhododendron you are talking about?

I posted a message about this a while back (hint: if you're curious about
somthing, search the origami list archives!).

You can search the archives via email (see Martin's biweekly posts for
information), or via the web: http://www-japan.mit.edu/origami/ OR
http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/index.htm (then click on the "search"
link).

(Joseph: I was unable to locate this message via the mit engine, but was able
to find it via Martin's engine. I hope this is the only discrepency, but I
fear otherwise.)

+++
From: Doug Philips
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:31:13 -0500
Subject: "That" Rhododendron flower from OUSA '98

At the 1998 OUSA Annual Convention, one of the "hot" models (a favorite during
the after hours folding), was a flower model from "some issue of NOA
magazine." It was dubbed a Rhododendron by the folks I heard talking about
it, but its name and creator were not known.

While looking for something else, I stumbled across this model after getting a
hint from another Western PA folder that it would be in an issue recent
enough that I probably had it.

The model is "Flower" by Kyoko Enomoto and appears in the June '96 NOA
magazine (also number #250).

The model as diagrammed is slightly different than as I learnt it at
the convention. At the convention it was a five piece flower and one
piece leaves/calyx base. In the NOA magazine, it is only a four piece flower
and one piece leaves/calyx base. The "central/top" piece as taught at
convention must have been a "local" variation. The version I learnt at the
convention also had a "lock" to hold the flower and leaves/calyx together and
that lock is not in the diagrams. Shown in the diagrams is a variation on the
leaves/calyx where the petal folds do not go all the way to a point at the
outer most points of the leaves, giving a nicer (IHMO) rounder look.

For all those who don't know what I'm talking about, I'm sorry I cannot
just post/publish the diagrams. They are copyright NOA. If anyone can
obtain permission from NOA and the creator, I would be willing to put a
scan of the diagrams up on my web site

-D'gou





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 11 Nov 1999 12:27
Subject: Re: Catelogue folding

Jessica Schulman wrote:
"There's a section on catlogue folding in Eric Kenneway's book!"

Which one?

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch

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From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 11 Nov 1999 12:44
Subject: Re: Catelogue folding

>"There's a section on catlogue folding in Eric Kenneway's book!"
>
>Which one?

Complete Origami by E. K. ISBN 0-312-00898-8

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: Peggy Van Norman <peggy@VANNORMAN.COM>
Date: 11 Nov 1999 12:55
Subject: Re: Alright, I give up...help!

Just to update those of you who requested copies of the woven ribbon animal
instructions:  The copies have been made, and as soon as I get through
inking in the parts that didn't copy clearly enough, I will mail them out.
I copied one extra set, but someone just emailed me and I will be sending
that set to her.

Peggy





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 11 Nov 1999 13:34
Subject: Re: [Re: Anybody heard of Moravian Stars??]

anine, I would love to get this book on putting the moravian stars together
in different ways.  I have a video on how to  make them and then put them
together into a basket but the instructions are terrible.  I am great at
making the stars but want to know some of the other things you can put them
together into./  They work nicely for a picture frame too.  Dorigami





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 11 Nov 1999 13:43
Subject: Re: NO: Re: Espaqol

Carlos,
At 15.01 11/11/1999 -0200, you wrote:

>>>set, the 247th simbol is q (lowercase n plus a tilde). The original
>>>poster thus typed "espaqol", of course "Spanish". Some narrow-minded
>And now I see my _own_ post garbled. Above I meant "espa<n+tilde>ol".
>Now I must remember never sending special characters to origami-l.
>BTW the "simbol" above was a typo, not a character translation :).

Also the 247 is a typo..... the ASCII for (n+tilde) is 241 (241 - 128 =
113)....

<:-)

Roberto





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: 11 Nov 1999 14:20
Subject: Re: NO: Re: Espaqol

>>From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>

(Ok, my last word about the matter unless someone suggests how to
circumvent the problem of stressed character conversion)

>>At 15.01 11/11/1999 -0200, you wrote:
>>Also the 247 is a typo..... the ASCII for (n+tilde) is 241 (241 - 128 =

Today I was proved either an illiterate or a keyboard pecker who can't use
neither a hex calculator nor a character table. But I'll be fine as long
as nobody calls me a sloppy _folder_ :)

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: BoyohBoy17@AOL.COM
Date: 11 Nov 1999 14:27
Subject: Re: Espaqol

there's a translator for Spanish, Portugeuse, German, and French at
     http://babelfish.altavista.com/

hay un traductor para el espaol, Portugeuse, el alemn, y el francs en
     http://babelfish.altavista.com/





From: BoyohBoy17@AOL.COM
Date: 11 Nov 1999 14:37
Subject: Re: NO: Re: Espaqol

Espaqol is espaniol misspelled.

Stuart "the Spanish misspell things too" Glaser





From: Gillian Wiseman <gilladian@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 11 Nov 1999 16:09
Subject: Re: NO: Re: Espaqol

I would assume espaqol is misspelled espanol  - possibly a misrepresentation
of a special character (the n with the tilde?)

Gillian
>
> > Is espaqol Portuguese?  Just a guess.
>
>Errrrm... thats what I thought;) , but the universal translator thought
>differently ... it translated the rest from Spanish into English. However
>none of the online dictionary's or translators seem to recognise the word
>espaqol, even though it appears on a lot of Spanish web pages can anyone
>shed
>light on the words meaning?
>
>Just curious....
>
>Dave-S

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From: Barbra0336@AOL.COM
Date: 11 Nov 1999 17:31
Subject: Re: desktop pencil cup

In a message dated 10-29-99 4:31:53 AM, you wrote:

<<Can anyone tell me where to find plans for an origami pen/pencil holder for
my desk?>>

Try "Origami, Full of Life"  by Akira Yoshizawa, page 40.  It is a neat duck.
 Barbara O





From: Carol Martinson <carolm47@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 11 Nov 1999 19:07
Subject: Rhododendron Diagrams

The diagrams for the rhododendron were published in at least one, if not two,
     places.  I do not have them.  I learned it at the Origami USA Covention in
     1998 from a member of OUSA's Board who said she found it while going
     through old issues of OUSA's news

Carol Martinson





From: Pete <pmiller@NICOM.COM>
Date: 11 Nov 1999 21:39
Subject: Re: Gift Wrapping

One Christmas, I bought my mother a nice gold necklace and wanted a
different way to wrap it.  I made a giant Jack in the Box from the book
Complete Origami by Eric Kenneway, then put the necklace around it's neck
and tied it closed.   She loved it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Gries <dangries@MATH.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Gift Wrapping

> i once wrapped a CD (you could do this with any such flat object) by
making
> two very large sonobe units out of a few layers of tissue - two different
> colors for the units - and wrapping them around the object to form a
square.
> i think you can imagine how this would work, if not, i can explain in more
> detail.  you can vary the elegance by your choice of paper.
>
> there will be flaps to tuck origami in - maybe you can figure out
something
> creative.
>
> i believe the unit is called a sonobe unit - i may be mistaking this with
> another unit - it's the most common origami unit, it forms a parallelogram
> when finished:
>
>         *************
>        * *   *     *
>      *     *     *
>    *     *   * *
>  **************
>
> ok, that's probably the worst ascii art ever.  hope you get it.
>
> -dan
>
>
> > Hi--
> >
> > I'd like to impress some friends with some elegant origami or related
> > giftwrapping.  Can anyone recommend a particular style, diagram or book?
I'm
> > looking for something that looks nice without taking too much time, but
I'm
> > open to anything.
> >
> > Rob
> > (PS-- it's to impress a chick ,so make it good!!!)





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 11 Nov 1999 21:41
Subject: Moravian Stars

To whoever put up the website of star diagrams up:

Please e mail me with the address for the site because
I mistakenly trashed it from my mail.

sutterj@earthlink.net

Thanks,
Ria





From: Kellydunn2@AOL.COM
Date: 12 Nov 1999 01:52
Subject: flying water bomb

Today, a woman in her seventies asked me if I could make her one
of those "lantern thingies" that she used to make in the Air Force
when she was in her twenties. After looking at what she had started
which was a cootie catcher with two corners folded in, I thought
she meant, a water bomb. After I made a water bomb, and completely
told her the story of James and the Giant Peach and how GREAT the movie
is. she said, it was just like that, but it had wings. wings?
So, I made a triangle base explaining it's possibilities, and then she
started remembering and taught me how to twist it into a water bomb with
wings!
She's said, "That's it, that's it!!" Thrilled! She had been trying to
remember
for a long time. She said in her twenties she made them all the time and
lots of her friends in the Air Force made them too. She thinks she learned
from them, and didn't know she was folding origami.
I haven't seen a water bomb with wings before, but would like to figure out
the history behind it, intrigued about people in the Air Force folding it.
Is it simply diagrammed somewhere that I have missed.
Or, did she make it up with friends? I would love to be able to tell her
where her flying bomb came from!
Kelly





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 03:54
Subject: Re: Gift Wrapping

>===== Original Message From Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> =====
>> > Rob
>> > (PS-- it's to impress a chick ,so make it good!!!)
Try wrapping the worms into a tortilla, chicken love that kinda stuff!

Matthias





From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Date: 12 Nov 1999 04:36
Subject: Re: Elk/Moose

Mark Casida a ecrive:

>>>>
P.S. So can the following creatures be folded in a distinguishable

manner?

    caribou/reindeer

    elk/wapiti

    moose/elk

    deer

    antelope

    chamois

    gazelle
<<<<

Almost certainly, since all of these have distinctly different antlers or
horns. I've folded several of them, not all. Using the North American
terminology, I've folded an elk and a moose that are easily recognizable as
such. I've also done both white-tailed and mule deer (which are distinguished
primarily by the branching pattern of their antlers and secondarily by
differences in ear sizes). I've done a Chamois -- they have short,
backwards-curved horns (not antlers). The only US antelope is the pronghorn,
which is the only antelope with branched horns -- but I haven't folded this
one.

The only one I've diagrammed for publication is the elk (which started this
whole thread).

I guess I should point out that getting the right arrangement of the antlers
(or should I say, the proper sticky-out bits?) is only a small part of
capturing the essence of the animal that is the inspiration for the fold. One
of my motivations for developing tree theory was in fact a desire to design
deer with antlers. But antlers weren't really the end target: rather, I
needed to find ways to make the antlers come easily, so that I could put my
origami energies into making the _rest_ of the model convey the character of
the deer, rather than having the model be "a set of antlers with a body
tacked on."

Robert J. Lang





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 04:59
Subject: Re: Computer Virus Alert!

</ challenge alert! >

I am wondering if any origami designers would care to fold their
interpretation of a "computer virus"?   :-)

< challenge alert! />





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 06:22
Subject: NO: RE: Computer Virus Alert!

>===== Original Message From Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> =====
>This email was sent to you by Manuel Nuno Alcada
>PS - Sign up for the McAfee Dispatch - Virus Alerts,
>Special Offers and News about McAfee.com. Get more information
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Eww. First you tell us about that awful dangerous new virus, and then you tell
us where we can buy the remedy. Keep your commercials to yourself, please!

Matthias





From: Manuel Nuno Alcada <nunoalca@MED.UP.PT>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 08:52
Subject: Re: NO: RE: Computer Virus Alert!

>Eww. First you tell us about that awful dangerous new virus, and then you
tell
>us where we can buy the remedy. Keep your commercials to yourself, please!
>
>Matthias

Sorry nothing to do with commercials.

I got a message about a new kind of virus, which I though would interest
some people using Windows 98. That message was copyright, so I had to send
it by their own system.

I have nothing to gain!

Manuel Nuno





From: DonnaJowal@AOL.COM
Date: 12 Nov 1999 09:48
Subject: Re: Rhododendron Diagrams

Carol Martinson wrote:

"I learned it at the Origami USA Convention in 1998 from a member of OUSA's
Board who said she found it while going through old issues of OUSA's
newsletter.  Unfortunately she did not know which issue or the name of the
creator.  It had evidently been called a rhododendron in that issue..."

It was not a member of the board, it was I who taught the rhododendron at the
1998 convention.  It was not in an OUSA newsletter; perhaps you misunderstood
when I said NOA:  I found it in an old Nippon Origami Association magazine.
But by the time I decided to teach it all I had was a xerox.  I did have the
name of the creator, but the name of the model was in Japanese and I couldn't
read it.  But it looks very like a rhododendron flower.  As I am at the
office, I don't have the xerox here, but I can look when I get home tonight
and tell you the creator's name at least.  The diagrams in NOA show a 4 piece
flower with an additional piece for the leaf cluster.  I realized that the
module could be modified so that an additional floret could be added in the
center.  Of course, the diagrams are in Japanese and may well have a note to
that effect as well.  The 4-piece flower is more unstable and delicate--more
like a native species flower.  The 5-piece is more stable and more like a
very showy hybrid.

I believe that some people may have learned the flower from the creator at a
convention in Japan as well.  As this model seems to have given a lot of
people a lot of joy in folding it, I've always been happy that I decided to
teach it!

Donna Walcavage





From: Christian Melsa <c_melsa@GMX.NET>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 11:24
Subject: magic business card

Hi folks!

My boss sent my on a search for some trick to fold a paper in a way,
that it normally looks like kind of a business card (after all, it IS a
business card), but could be altered to some other state like a flower,
a star - whatever, by pulling or pushing some part of it. Is somebody
here aware of a method to do this? Just as a special feature of our
card... :)

Thanks for hints!

-sire





From: Anine Cleve <anine20@USA.NET>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 12:02
Subject: Origami Magic book

Hi!

I'm thinking about getting Origami Magic by Florence Temko, so I'd like to
hear what you have to say about that book! Wether to get it or not.
Thanks in advance!

Anine

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From: Carol Martinson <carolm47@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 12:06
Subject: Re: Rhododendron Diagrams

I apologize to Donna and anyone else who might be
upset about my misidentifying where it came from and
who taught it.  Obviously the accuracy of my memory of
that convention is rapidly fading and who taught what
classes is blurring tinto each other.

Carol Martinson

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From: DonnaJowal@AOL.COM
Date: 12 Nov 1999 12:48
Subject: Re: Rhododendron Diagrams

Carol wrote:  "I apologize to Donna and anyone else who might be
upset about my misidentifying where it came from and
who taught it."

No problem:  I wasn't upset--I just didn't want everyone to ransack their
closets for back issues of the OUSA newsletter and not find it anywhere!

Donna





From: Carol Martinson <carolm47@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 12:52
Subject: Re: Rhododendron Diagrams

I apologize to Donna and anyone else I offended by
stating incorrectly who taught the rhododendron and
where it came from.  Obviously everything from the
1998 Convention is becoming jumbled in my memory.

Carol Martinson

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From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 12:57
Subject: Re: Computer Virus Alert!

></ challenge alert! >
>
>I am wondering if any origami designers would care to fold their
>interpretation of a "computer virus"?   :-)
>
>< challenge alert! />

I suppose if one combined an icosohedron (Haga?) from OftC with a Lang Oi&tk
Sated tick, one could produce a rather nice looking two piece bacteriophage
virus, with eight 'prongs'.

I suppose that is rather biological though...

Btw, Bubbleboy seems to have gotten onto a large number of BBC radio's
computers...they didnt stop talking about it on radio 5 yesterday. Perhaps
it is rather widespread.

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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 13:03
Subject: Re: Computer Virus Alert!

At 09:56 99/11/12 -0800, you wrote:
>I suppose if one combined an icosohedron (Haga?) from OftC with a Lang Oi&tk
>Sated tick, one could produce a rather nice looking two piece bacteriophage
>virus, with eight 'prongs'.
>
>I suppose that is rather biological though...

I did something like this back in 1990 when I was studying microbiology (I
wanted to be a doctor at that point...)

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From: Marion Riley <marion-r@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 13:51
Subject: OT can not post to list

  I receive posts from the origami-l but cannot
seem to post there . Anyone else having the
same problem? Suggestions? E-mail welcome.

              Marion





From: Tommy <twstevens@HOME.COM>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 13:54
Subject: Re: flying water bomb

This model is called "The Kettle" in _Paper_Toy_Making_ by Margaret W.
Campbell. This book was originally published in 1937 by Sir Isaac Pitman
and Sons, Ltd. The copy I have is the 1975 Dover Reprint (ISBN
0-486-21662-4). It does not give any historical background on the
Kettle. However, it does sat to fill it halfway with water and then,
while holding the handles on either side, boil the water over a candle
flame. In the preface Roy Campbell says that he "shall not forget the
miniature miracle of boiling water in a paper kettle over the flame of a
candle".

Anyone have more information?

Tommy

Kellydunn2@aol.com wrote:
>
> Today, a woman in her seventies asked me if I could make her one
> of those "lantern thingies" that she used to make in the Air Force
> when she was in her twenties. After looking at what she had started
> which was a cootie catcher with two corners folded in, I thought
> she meant, a water bomb. After I made a water bomb, and completely
> told her the story of James and the Giant Peach and how GREAT the movie
> is. she said, it was just like that, but it had wings. wings?
> So, I made a triangle base explaining it's possibilities, and then she
> started remembering and taught me how to twist it into a water bomb with
> wings!
> She's said, "That's it, that's it!!" Thrilled! She had been trying to
> remember
> for a long time. She said in her twenties she made them all the time and
> lots of her friends in the Air Force made them too. She thinks she learned
> from them, and didn't know she was folding origami.
> I haven't seen a water bomb with wings before, but would like to figure out
> the history behind it, intrigued about people in the Air Force folding it.
> Is it simply diagrammed somewhere that I have missed.
> Or, did she make it up with friends? I would love to be able to tell her
> where her flying bomb came from!
> Kelly





From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@DORSAI.ORG>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 13:58
Subject: Re: OT can not post to list

>
>   I receive posts from the origami-l but cannot
> seem to post there . Anyone else having the
> same problem? Suggestions? E-mail welcome.
>
>               Marion
>
This message seems to have made it through.

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From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 13:58
Subject: Re: Rhododendron Diagrams

Donna Walcavage indited:

> As this model seems to have given a lot of people a lot of joy in
folding it, I've always been happy that I decided to teach it!

I don't recall who at the convention taught me, I think it might have been Kay
Eng. In any event, I'm glad it was taught and became a "hot model" for after
hours folding, whomever might have taught me directly. Thanks!

-D'gou





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 14:06
Subject: Re: OT can not post to list

Hi Marion!

WebTV has recently been having major mail server problems. However,
since you've successfully posted to the list (congratulations!),
hopefully your server problems are resolved.

Dorothy





From: Maarten van Gelder <VGelder@KVI.nl>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 15:29
Subject: Searching the archives

Doug Philips wrote:
> I posted a message about this a while back (hint: if you're curious about
> somthing, search the origami list archives!).
>
> You can search the archives via email (see Martin's biweekly posts for
> information), or via the web: http://www-japan.mit.edu/origami/ OR
> http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/index.htm (then click on the "search"
> link).
>
> (Joseph: I was unable to locate this message via the mit engine, but was able
> to find it via Martin's engine. I hope this is the only discrepency, but I
> fear otherwise.)

Since about may 1999 I can't upload the message archive files to
MIT.EDU. And Joseph can't download them from the basical archives. So
the MIT engine can't return you messages dating june 1999 or later.
My engine works on the basical archives. So it is mostly up-to-date:
normally I save the messages each evening (Dutch local time).

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From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 16:41
Subject: Re: Rhododendron Diagrams

>From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Rhododendron Diagrams
>Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:57:18 -0500
>
>Donna Walcavage indited:
>
> > As this model seems to have given a lot of people a lot of joy in
>folding it, I've always been happy that I decided to teach it!
>
>I don't recall who at the convention taught me, I think it might have been
>Kay
>Eng. In any event, I'm glad it was taught and became a "hot model" for
>after
>hours folding, whomever might have taught me directly. Thanks!
>
>-D'gou

Are there any pictures of this model  on someones webpage?

Collin Weber

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From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 17:21
Subject: Joseph Wu wrote:

> I did something like this back in 1990 when I was studying microbiology (I
>wanted to be a doctor at that point...)

At least you had more ambition than Rob Hudson who only wanted to Play
Doctor.





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 18:09
Subject: Re: Computer Virus Alert!

> >I suppose if one combined an icosohedron (Haga?) from OftC with a Lang
>Oi&tk
> >Sated tick, one could produce a rather nice looking two piece
>bacteriophage
> >virus, with eight 'prongs'.
> >
> >I suppose that is rather biological though...

Joseph Wu wrote:
>I did something like this back in 1990 when I was studying microbiology (I
>wanted to be a doctor at that point...)

Eeeuyuck...who'd want to become a doctor? Disgusting job.

Dr Stephen O'Hanlon MBBChir(cantab)
Kigezi school of International Medicine

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From: Rob Hudson <FashFold@AOL.COM>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 18:29
Subject: Re: Joseph Wu wrote:

.... and is still waiting to take the entrance exams to "Play" Med School!!

Rob





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 19:34
Subject: Re: Computer Virus Alert!

>Greetings, ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>
>I thought you would be interested in knowing about this computer virus...
>
>Virus Name: VBS/Bubbleboy
>
>Virus Characteristics:
>This is an Internet worm that requires Internet Explorer 5 with Windows
>Scripting Host installed (WSH is standard in Windows 98 and Windows 2000
>installations). It does not run on Windows NT due to hard-coded
>limitations. The Internet worm is embedded within an email message of HTML
>format and does not contain an attachment. This worm is written in VB
>Script. There are two variants; the .b variant is encrypted.
>

I thought that Windows 2000 is largely based on NT though so I why does it
work on 2000 and how is this known when only a few test users have it know.

David





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 19:47
Subject: Re: Computer Virus Alert!

I've decided to go for a symbolic interpretation, with a slight modification
to Lang's scarab beetle I've folded a microchip with 6 legs, 2 antenna and a
little head. I wonder if this in anyway infringes a certain copyright... ;0)

Dave-(Oh how I resisted the temptation to call this e@mail bubbleboy)-S

(Tomorrow's creation will be a square with a smaller square inside each
quadrant, oh and a crimp fold tail to the left handside)





From: Kellydunn2@AOL.COM
Date: 12 Nov 1999 19:58
Subject: Re: flying water bomb

In a message dated 11/12/99 6:54:25 PM, twstevens@HOME.COM writes:

<< Roy Campbell says that he "shall not forget the
miniature miracle of boiling water in a paper kettle over the flame of a
candle". >>

Thank you Tommy! That's thrilling. And, the right year too, soooo Cool!
Now, I've got to go get some candles and make an appointment with her.
Paper Toy Making, by Margaret Campbell 1037, I bet is interesting.
Kelly





From: "JacAlArt ." <jacalart@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 21:48
Subject: ballerina?

Anyone know of ballerenia diagrams other than the fairy princess in the
Brill book?

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From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 12 Nov 1999 22:42
Subject: A few challenges

Has any one folded any of these models If not try them yourself.  This is
just a list of ideas that I haven't got around to or couldn't do.

Totem pole(unit or one piece)
Cockatoo
Platypus
Silverware
wombat
Macaw
Ostrich(black and white)
Kookaburra
Dingo
Frill necked lizard
Perigrine Falcon
Bald Eagle(legs with talons outstretched)
Emu

I'm sure I will think of more later.  Try these and send your ides to me if
you have any.

Collin Weber

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From: Stephen Tran <stephogami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 00:43
Subject: Re: Joseph Wu wrote:

Hey, playing "Doctor" can be alot of fun ya know, especially if the patient
wants to play too!

BTW, does anyone know how to make the Origami list email into a digest, or
shorten it so that you don't have to read each and everyone.  I'm relatively
new at this and finds that I have so much email, it's practically "clogging
my in-box".

Thank you all!

Stephen
*Paper-man*

>> > I did something like this back in 1990 when I was studying microbiology
>>(I
> >wanted to be a doctor at that point...)
>
>At least you had more ambition than Rob Hudson who only wanted to Play
>Doctor.

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From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 04:38
Subject: Re: Joseph Wu wrote:

>Hey, playing "Doctor" can be alot of fun ya know, especially if the patient
>wants to play too!
>
>BTW, does anyone know how to make the Origami list email into a digest, or
>shorten it so that you don't have to read each and everyone.  I'm relatively
>new at this and finds that I have so much email, it's practically "clogging
>my in-box".
>
>Thank you all!
>
>Stephen
>*Paper-man*

Hey paper man try this out:

email LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following command in the email and
no subject header

SET ORIGAMI DIGEST

David





From: Maarten van Gelder <VGelder@KVI.nl>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 05:59
Subject: Re: ballerina?

"JacAlArt ." wrote:
>
> Anyone know of ballerenia diagrams other than the fairy princess in the
> Brill book?

I've designed a ballerina (see
http://www.kvi.nl/~vgelder/origami/fototxt/ballerina.htm )
but not yet made diagrams.
Well ... it is based on the same structure as the Human (with
Wheelchair) that is in the archives (two sheets).

--
Maarten van Gelder    KVI - Groningen, Netherlands    vgelder@kvi.nl





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 13 Nov 1999 06:32
Subject: Origami Viruses (formerly Computer Virus Alert.)

Douglas Zander wrote: "I am wondering if origami designers would care to fold
their interpretation of a "computer virus"? and Stephen O'Hanlon contributed:
"I suppose if one combined an icosaheron (Haga?) from OftC with a Lang Oi&tj
Sated tick, one could produce a rather nice looking two-piece bacteriophage
virus with eight "prongs".  And Joseph Wu responded: "I did something like
this back in 1990 when I was studying microbiology".

I don't know about folding computer viruses, but attempts to fold biological
viruses have already been made.

All this came to me as a remarkable coincidence. In preparation for writing
to him, I had been studying a recent letter from Yoshihide Momotani in which
he sent me material about his own representations of DNA, the AIDS virus and
a complex cell membrane, all folded in Origami. Yoshihide Momotani is a
professor of biology, specialising in botany, and, of course, one of the most
interesting of today's paperfolders, who demonstrates great diversity in his
approaches to origami and in the techniques he uses. They usually spring from
his own ideas and do not depend on the work of any predecessor. He is
certainly not hidebound by rules and he himself says that his origami is
primarily based in science and not in art. It is obviously very different
from the work of other artistic folders such as Akira Yoshizawa.

The story started in May 1996, when Yoshihide contributed an article about
his creations of origami sea creatures, dinosaurs and molecular biological
structures to the Japanese illustrated science magazine, "Newton". It is, of
course, in Japanese, but the pictures are universally understandable. Reports
filtered through to the West about this publication and I intended to try to
obtain a copy, but never found out how to go about it.

Then, Yoshihide Momotani was invited to attend the great exhibition, "Paris
Origami" in March 1998 and he brought with him a remarkably diverse
exhibition of his work. What fascinated me most was his display of his
micro-biological origami. Such was my interest that after Paris Origami
closed, he gave me the copy of "Newton" which had formed part of his display.
He has now written to me with translations of the captions to the
illustrations,

In the microbiological section, "Newton" has wonderful coloured photographs
of Momotani's creations of DNA (somewhat like Thoki Yenn's DNA), RNA, the
Tobacco Mosaic Virus, HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus, the virus associated
with AIDS)  and his "Cell Membrane", an incredible confection folded from
pink paper.

I can't describe all of these pieces. The ones that most fascinated me, both
at Paris Origami and in the pages of "Newton" are HIV and the Cell Membrane.

The representation of HIV is in four pieces. Three of them are concentric
spheres in green, yellow and pink, each of them open at the top, which
represent the three layers of the virus. From the open top emerges a single
RNA strand folded from long strip of red paper.

Momotani translates his caption follows. (His translation is not entirely
clear, but I have slightly edited it for linguistic style):

"H.I.Virus: the virus is only a small sphere, 0.001mm in diameter, and the
terrible pathogenic virus of AIDS, destructive of health by disrupting the
immunogenetic function of the human body. The original model is made from
four sheets of paper, because the virus has three sorts of coat-layer, and
each of the layers consists of many molecules, but yet keeps its stable
structure. These layers are an outer one of the glycoprotein stacked to the
second lipid layer, and an inner one of the third protein, layer, "capsid".
Each layer may be represented by a sheet with repeating origami pattern The
representation of the single RNA strand is made by a classic folding process
of a long strip from a single sheet.

Momotani's Cell Membrane represents the most astonishing example of an
origami tessellation that I have ever seen. It is basically a regular
hexagonal tessellation in which the tessellated units are raised in 3-D and
look like a carpet  of crystals. But rising from the background of these
small 3-D units there are larger protuberances of varied shapes and sizes
which erupt to represent the different molecules, which together make up the
cell membrane. Momotani's caption is as follows:

"Cell Membrane: The layered structure of the cell membrane is composed of
many molecules of proteins and lipids. Although the membrane is a thin layer,
it retains a nature of fluidity in itself like a two-dimensional liquid. So
the origami model is made by a sheet of paper to show proteins and enzymes on
the membrane, hole [able?] to penetrate particular substances and regularly
arranged lipid molecules. [The meaning of the end of this sentence is not
clear, but I have left it as written, rather than try to impose my own
interpretation on it.]

Yoshihide's work is indeed varied and prolific, both in his own creation and
in the theories on origami which he expounds.

In another communication, Yoshihide Momotani has sent me copies of other
papers which he has written, some published, some unpublished. One is about
his visit to the Picasso Musum in Paris just after the "Paris Origami"
exhibition, where he perceived the use of origami by Picasso in some of his
sculptures and at least one painting. I have verified this by my own
examination of books of Picasso's work, but so far as I know, nobody before
Momotani has ever before suggested that Picasso was a paperfolder!. Picasso's
origami is, however, a simple cut-and-fold technique, little resembling
mainstream origami with its complexity and its rule of "no cutting".

A second of Momotani's papers is one delivered to the Fourth International
Micromachine Symposium held in Tokyo in October, 1998. Basing his idea on the
fact that creased paper "remembers" the creases so that a simple origami
model will spring back into its shape (or can be induced to spring back into
shape), Momotani proposes that thin silicon wafers might be etched with
"origami" patterns, which could then be induced to take up shapes to form
micro-machines. He illustrates the paper with drawings of some of his regular
tessellations.

Of course, this is only and idea and a suggestion, but it is an indication of
Yoshihide Momotani's fertile creative mind applied to origami.

Where does origami go next?

David Lister

Grimsby, England.

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From: Casida Mark <casida@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 09:08
Subject: Re: A few challenges

> Has any one folded any of these models?

I would be especially interested in a good frill necked lizard.
I have been disappointed by the lack of good origami lizards,
especially given the variety of interesting forms they can take.
Examples:

    horned toad --- flat (flounder-like) with spines
    frill necked lizard --- with raisable coller
    (I forget the name) dragon --- with skin between legs for gliding
    fence lizard --- with blue underside

Exceptions:

    recent apparition of many nice dinosaurs
    African (true) chamelian by John Montroll in African Animals (I think)

                 ... Mark

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From: Cynthia Dise <cydise@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 09:45
Subject: Re: Computer Virus Alert!

Hi Everyone,

I've been lurking for a few weeks and I must say
that I do enjoy this list.  And thanks to everyone for
posting all of the links.  I have them all bookmarked!

But, I wanted to reply about this virus.
This is from the helpdesk, where I work.

Cynthia

Bubble Boy Virus Update
  Written by Tim Campbell
  This virus has been rated with a "Low Risk
Assessment" by all of the major antivirus vendors.
The virus has NOT been reported "in the wild" and can
not run on Windows NT. Here is some additional
information from Trend Micro.

  This new Internet worm is a "proof of concept"
Internet email worm that can be activated
automatically
without users having to click on an attachment. It
does
not contain a malicious payload. BubbleBoy is not "in
the wild" at this time and no customers have reported
the worm to Trend Micro. BubbleBoy is written in
visual
basic script and requires Internet Explore 5 with
Windows Scripting Host installed and the use of
Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Express.

Windows Scripting Host is standard in Windows 98 and
Windows 2000 installations. BubbleBoy can not run on
Windows NT. If IE5 security is set to high, BubbleBoy
can not be executed. Microsoft's Security Bulletin
http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/ms99-032.asp
includes a patch that will prevent worms based on
BubbleBoy's technology.

  The BubbleBoy worm arrives in an email that comes
from a person who has sent the worm unintentionally.
The Subject line of the email carrying BubbleBoy reads
"BubbleBoy is back!" The message contains an invalid
URL ending in "bblboy.htm" and the message text "The
BubbleBoy Incident, pictures and sounds." In Outlook
Express, BubbleBoy can be activated if the email is
viewed through the "Preview Pane." In Microsoft
Outlook, it can be activated automatically if the
infected mail is "opened."

  BubbleBoy is written in visual basic script and
requires Internet Explorer 5.0 with Windows Scripting
Host installed. Windows Scripting Host is standard in
Windows 98 and Windows 2000 installations. It can not
run on Windows NT.

  When executed, the worm will try to email itself to
every contact in the user's address book and then set
a registry key indicating the email distribution has
occurred so that any BubbleBoy emails received
subsequently will not spread. It also goes into the
registry and changes the system's registered owner to
"BubbleBoy" and the organization to "Vandelay
Industries." (References to a popular episode of the
Seinfeld television show)

--- david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU> wrote:
> I thought that Windows 2000 is largely based on NT
> though so I why does it
> work on 2000 and how is this known when only a few
> test users have it know.

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From: Spider Barbour <spider@ULSTER.NET>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 10:42
Subject: frilled lizard

-- [ From: Spider Barbour * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Collin and Mark --

Ronald Koh has a fantastic frilled lizard model, a photo of which is on
Albert Sng's web page.  The address, as given by Matthias Gutfeldt in his
letter to the o-list on October 26, is:

http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Palace/3457/ronald.htm

The address for the page with the picture of the frilled lizard is:

http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Palace/3457/mammals.htm

Anita F. Barbour





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 10:56
Subject: Re: Moravian Stars

Hi all,

Thanks to a number of people who answered my post I've
got a collection of stars for my own tree this year,
along with the usual family stuff that goes up.  After
I got the hang of doing those Moravian Stars they look
really good!

Peace,
Ria
ps sorry I didn't take time to thank you all individually,
but I got lazy.





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 11:39
Subject: Re: A few challenges

I have a photo of my frilled lizard at
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Palace/3457/index.htm. This
model was folded on all fours. I folded another one in a more typical
posture, i.e. standing on its hindlegs, but the photo is not good enough
to be put on a webpage.

Ron Koh

Casida Mark wrote:
>
> > Has any one folded any of these models?
>
> I would be especially interested in a good frill necked lizard.





From: P Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 15:40
Subject: Re: A few challenges

collin weber wrote:
>
> Has any one folded any of these models If not try them yourself.  This is
> just a list of ideas that I haven't got around to or couldn't do.
>
> Totem pole(unit or one piece)

Anita Barbour unpublished

> Cockatoo

Not that I know of

> Platypus

David Chan OUSA 96 annual

> Silverware

Chris Durham dollar bill spork OUSA 98 annual
Sy Chen dollar place setting (complete) OUSA 97 annual

> wombat

Could we get more obscure?

> Macaw

Robert Harbin Secrets of Origami

> Ostrich(black and white)

Paquale D'Auria OUSA 97 annual

> Kookaburra
> Dingo
> Frill necked lizard

Probably out there but I don't know right off hand where.
Not a lot of Australian animals have been done, just the major ones.

> Perigrine Falcon

Strikes a bell but can't place it.

> Bald Eagle(legs with talons outstretched)

Fred Rohm (talons not outstretched) OUSA 90 annual

> Emu

saw this somewhere but forgot where.
--
"Hope is a little thing
with feathers
perched in the soul all day,
it does it's little business
and then it flies away!"

Victor Buono from "It could be verse"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!
Icq 23622644





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 17:02
Subject: Re: A few challenges

Before you read this note I'm attacking the tone of Collin's emails and I'm
not making personal judgments of Collin's character because I don't know
him.  That's right Collin I'm talking about you, try not to read this
emotionally and just think about the questions.  I'm sending this to the
list because though it is offensive the answers I want I think everyone
interested on the list deserves.  I don't want you to hate me but I'm too
angry to let this be unsaid any longer:

Okay I just don't understand you Collin at all.  You keep hinting at your
so called amazing models that you've created apparently hundreds of but you
have yet to make public diagrams or even photos of the completed models.
Now you send this list of models and this last email you've been just as
condescending and arrogant as almost all of the past emails.  You attacked
a newbie on his first email because you mistook his enthusiasm for your own
arrogance you were attacking what you hate in you that you thought you saw
in him.

I'm just saying that I want to see those models of yours that you so boast
about.  Your attitude is irritating at best, and it's hard to see you as a
great origami master when none of the great masters on this list are filled
with arrogance due to their superior folding and creating habits.

*****Yes I'm being callous and worse than you could ever be or anyone on
this list by sending this email but I want some answers for why you are so
full of yourself.  I refrained for a long time but I can't take it anymore.
I don't really know you so don't take it personal, I think you come off
the wrong way and you don't even realize it.  If you're so excited about
these models but can't make public diagrams or photos could you explain to
me what bases you use in your models.  Since you never described that how
does any of us know that you didn't use a 100 variations on the Montroll
dog base and didn't really create anything?

Sincerely, angrily but yet shamefully,

David





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 17:11
Subject: Re: A few challenges

>Has any one folded any of these models If not try them yourself.  This is
>just a list of ideas that I haven't got around to or couldn't do.
>

>Platypus
>Ostrich(black and white)
>Kookaburra
>Dingo
>Frill necked lizard
>Emu

Ive folded an ostrich based on a bird base that is rather quite good,
although the wings are a bit small...but they do have a white bit on the
end. My brother once challenged me to fold a platypus while in a pub...(you
know, 'what can you fold?' 'Anything.' 'Really? I pint says that you can't
fold this...'). I modified the crocodile on my web page and voila, I ended
up with a lager off him.

A while back, an aussie origami theme ran on the mailing list...Im sure
people have been folding since...

Stephen

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From: Susan Dugan <florafauna@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 17:24
Subject: Re: update from Hobbit

A update on my Mom
The surgery Nov. 1 went very well. I spent the time in the waiting room
pacing and folding 2 in. cranes and sharing them with other families. Many
knew about the cranes and two people asked me to teach them how to fold the
crane. The surgeons did not have to do as much as they thought but Dixie
will now set off alarms in airports. We had a ruff first week but started
doing much better when she got in the wonderful rehab center. I had planed
to fold lots of Sara Stars but did not have much time to do that. The few I
did fold the Doctors got except for the three I left in Dixie's room. I am
back home in South Carolina my Dad is still with her in Texas we are hoping
she can come home Nov. 29.
Thank You for your GOOD thoughts and prayers I know they helped.

Thank you
Hobbit, Susan Dugan





From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 18:08
Subject: Re: A few challenges

>From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: A few challenges
>Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 14:03:59 -0800
>
>Before you read this note I'm attacking the tone of Collin's emails and I'm
>not making personal judgments of Collin's character because I don't know
>him.  That's right Collin I'm talking about you, try not to read this
>emotionally and just think about the questions.  I'm sending this to the
>list because though it is offensive the answers I want I think everyone
>interested on the list deserves.  I don't want you to hate me but I'm too
>angry to let this be unsaid any longer:
>
>
>
>Okay I just don't understand you Collin at all.  You keep hinting at your
>so called amazing models that you've created apparently hundreds of but you
>have yet to make public diagrams or even photos of the completed models.
>Now you send this list of models and this last email you've been just as
>condescending and arrogant as almost all of the past emails.  You attacked
>a newbie on his first email because you mistook his enthusiasm for your own
>arrogance you were attacking what you hate in you that you thought you saw
>in him.
>
>I'm just saying that I want to see those models of yours that you so boast
>about.  Your attitude is irritating at best, and it's hard to see you as a
>great origami master when none of the great masters on this list are filled
>with arrogance due to their superior folding and creating habits.
>
>
>*****Yes I'm being callous and worse than you could ever be or anyone on
>this list by sending this email but I want some answers for why you are so
>full of yourself.  I refrained for a long time but I can't take it anymore.
>I don't really know you so don't take it personal, I think you come off
>the wrong way and you don't even realize it.  If you're so excited about
>these models but can't make public diagrams or photos could you explain to
>me what bases you use in your models.  Since you never described that how
>does any of us know that you didn't use a 100 variations on the Montroll
>dog base and didn't really create anything?
>
>
>Sincerely, angrily but yet shamefully,
>
>David

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From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 19:17
Subject: Re: A few challenges

Im almost sure there's a bi-coloured Ostrich with rider in Harbins teach
yourself origami...

Is a coyote the same as a dingo? If so then theres a good one in Bringing
Origami to Life. (Incidentally anyone in still waiting for this book with
Amazon etc cancel your orders and give Kim's Crane a go. Amazon promised to
deliver within 2 months, Kim's Crane provided within 3 days.)

On a completely unrelated subject can anyone tell me what the ratty thing
with the 3 banded tail is on page 104 of the 3rd Tanteidan convention book.
It looks good and its fun to fold but as to what it is...

Dave-(Those leaves on page 84 look a little bit suspect to me...)-S





From: Karen Reeds <reeds@OPENIX.COM>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 19:42
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 12 Nov 1999 to 13 Nov 1999 (#1999-66)

>Date:    Sat, 13 Nov 1999 14:37:32 -0600
>From:    P Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
>Subject: Re: A few challenges
>
>collin weber wrote:
>>
>> Has any one folded any of these models...
>> Silverware
>
>Chris Durham dollar bill spork OUSA 98 annual
>Sy Chen dollar place setting (complete) OUSA 97 annual

Karen Reeds--dollar bill "Silver Spoon"  OUSA annual =Friends of Origami
Center of America, 1993, p. 79.

Knives are pretty easy to invent.

Karen
reeds@openix.com





From: Ho <gmjkho@PRIMUS.COM.AU>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 21:12
Subject: benefits of origami

Recently my health was not the best.
I needed to go to the hospital for major service.
It was a long waiting on the trolley before the
anaethetist put me into sleep. I knew the risk I was facing.
Mostly I may come back, than again I may not.  I concentrated on
the origami papers - folds after folds.  The visualisation of
the finished model helped me think calmly.  There was no
room for the negative feelings ( anxiety while waiting, worries
of the outcome etc )  I managed to finished the model
before the anaesthetist gave me the I V and he was amazed
to see the origami.  Soon I felt very sleepy. I was thinking
I have to come back to share about the benefits of origami ..........

In my web site I have added some  feedback from
people with experience of mental illness.  They are courageous
people who benefited from origami and generously share
their valuable experience with us.
http://thunder.prohosting.com/~origami/p4.html

I salute to their contribution and I wish them well.

Sincerely

George Ho
*********************************************************
web site             http://go.to/origami

back-up email :  georgeho@origami.i-p.com





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 13 Nov 1999 21:29
Subject: Re: A few challenges

Collin that makes all the difference, now I know you're much more than I
thought you were.  I wish you well.  If it's one thing about email it's
that it can't replace actual physical communication.  Without the tone of a
voice and the eyes and expression of a person how easy is it to tell who's
behind the message?

Happy folding Collin and happy folding to all.

David





From: Pat Ellis <EllisPS@AOL.COM>
Date: 14 Nov 1999 00:45
Subject: Re: update from Hobbit

Glad to hear all went well.  Your e-mail did strike my curiosity though, what
is a "Sara Star" ?  I would live to know and where I may find a diagram.

Wishing your Mom a speedy recovery.

Pat





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 14 Nov 1999 01:36
Subject: Animal in Tanteidan book (Re: A few challenges)

At 19:16 99/11/13 -0500, you wrote:
>On a completely unrelated subject can anyone tell me what the ratty thing
>with the 3 banded tail is on page 104 of the 3rd Tanteidan convention book.
>It looks good and its fun to fold but as to what it is...

The title says "araiguma". In English, that's "racoon".
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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 14 Nov 1999 01:36
Subject: Re: update from Hobbit

At 00:45 99/11/14 -0500, you wrote:
>Glad to hear all went well.  Your e-mail did strike my curiosity though, what
>is a "Sara Star" ?  I would live to know and where I may find a diagram.

Probably a slip of the fingers. I'm guessing "Saar Star".

>Wishing your Mom a speedy recovery.

Me, too!

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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 14 Nov 1999 01:36
Subject: Re: A few challenges

At 14:37 99/11/13 -0600, Perry Bailey wrote:
>> Totem pole(unit or one piece)
>Anita Barbour unpublished

Also Gerri Bell. Made of units. I've got some hand drawn sketches...somewhere.

I've also made a few studies for a one-piece design.

>> Cockatoo
>Not that I know of

Many. E.g. KASAHARA Kunihiko in "Origami Omnibus".

>> Platypus
>David Chan OUSA 96 annual

And Marc Kirschenbaum.

>> Silverware
>Chris Durham dollar bill spork OUSA 98 annual
>Sy Chen dollar place setting (complete) OUSA 97 annual

Numerous models.

>> wombat
>Could we get more obscure?

I've seen one somewhere...

>> Macaw
>Robert Harbin Secrets of Origami

Again, numerous.

>> Ostrich(black and white)
>Paquale D'Auria OUSA 97 annual

And at least 4 others, including Yoshizawa.

>> Kookaburra

I've seen a kingfisher that's similar.

>> Dingo
>> Frill necked lizard
>Probably out there but I don't know right off hand where.
>Not a lot of Australian animals have been done, just the major ones.

Frill necked lizard has been done by Lionel Albertino and others (one
appears in "Origami: El Mundo Nuevo").

>> Perigrine Falcon
>Strikes a bell but can't place it.

I've yet to see one that has the falcon's distinctive colouring (especially
the "mask" on the head).

>> Bald Eagle(legs with talons outstretched)
>Fred Rohm (talons not outstretched) OUSA 90 annual

Robert Lang in "Complete Origami".

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From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 14 Nov 1999 01:56
Subject: Re: A few challenges

+> wombat
+Could we get more obscure?

How 'bout the Western European Spotted Nocturnal Wombat?

+> Macaw
+Robert Harbin Secrets of Origami

Yes!

+> Frill necked lizard
+Probably out there but I don't know right off hand where.
+Not a lot of Australian animals have been done, just the major ones.

Momotani has a nice one, though I don't know which of his books it is in.

+> Bald Eagle(legs with talons outstretched)
+Fred Rohm (talons not outstretched) OUSA 90 annual

Robert Lang, in his Complete Book of Origami. Excellent model.

-D'gou





From: Dor Jeong <DJeong1066@AOL.COM>
Date: 14 Nov 1999 02:04
Subject: Re: Disappearing Library Origami Books

please do not send any mail until 11/20...
