




From: Elsje vd Ploeg <evdploeg@BETUWE.NET>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 11:07
Subject: [Yes] Christmas-decorations and a study of wetfolding

Dear people on the list,

As Pepi told you she has a new homepage.
Items about paperfolding are included:
Diagrams of a Froebel-like way to fold Christmas decorations,
especially for children, parents and teachers.
Photo's of a study of A4 wetfolding without diagrams
but with a description to inspire to try it yourself.
http://www.betuwe.net/pepi

xxxxxxx elsje
evdploeg@betuwe.net





From: Elsje vd Ploeg <evdploeg@BETUWE.NET>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 11:09
Subject: [No]Homepage, cats-tour, kamanspi and soup

Hallo dear List,

Here is some Pepi-talk.
Pepi has thrown away her homepage a
month ago.
She made a complete new one,
she would like to see what you
as members of the list can do
to the counter.
Please surprise her.
homepage:
http://www.betuwe.net/pepi

Pepi is very exited about her
new job in the travel agency for cats.
http://www.betuwe.net/pepi/13lady_jora.html

And if you have time
please tell me your critics.

xxxxxxelsje
evdploeg@betuwe.net





From: Christina Nester <tinan@ISICMAIL.COM>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 11:11
Subject: Maekawa's demon

   Well, maybe this is a really wild idea, but I've been thinking - if someone
     knew Jun Maekawa and asked him really nicely, seeing how Viva Origami is
     out of print (right?) and how much people on this list like it, maybe he'd
     be willing to have us let th
  demon diagrams, maybe for a fee or whatever... What do you guys think?

   Joseph, thanks for the hint on the chi-wing fighter!

         Tina





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 11:20
Subject: Re: Maekawa's demon

I'd recommend asking very very very nicely Kunihiko Kasahara & Maekawa Jun
to have a new edition of Viva Origami published (not just the demon), or
better still, to have it translated into English for the benefit of the
Origami community...
... or maybe send them a petition to show them how many people are
interested in that book?

It really is a book to have!

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 11:30
Subject: Re: Maekawa's demon

Julia Palffy indited:

> I'd recommend asking very very very nicely Kunihiko Kasahara & Maekawa Jun
> to have a new edition of Viva Origami published (not just the demon), or
> better still, to have it translated into English for the benefit of the
> Origami community...
> ... or maybe send them a petition to show them how many people are
> interested in that book?
>
> It really is a book to have!

Since Origami House has been putting out books, I wonder if they might be able
to secure the copyright for Viva! Origami (which is different from the
copyrights for the individual model's diagrams) and re-issue it. I hope their
publishing has been profitable and that this would be a feasible project. As
Julia mentions, there is a lot more to that book than "just" the demon.

Besides, the Origami Tanteidan newsletter/magazine just published even better
diagrams for the demon than those in Viva! Origami (better because they show
how to get the ears/shoulder-horns), so I would think it unlikely that the
diagrams would be made freely available soon.

But it can't hurt to make polite inquiry!

-D'gou





From: Papa Joe <papajoe@CHORUS.NET>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 15:05
Subject: Re: In Search of Diagrams for Citibank $ Bunny

<Subject: Re: In Search of Diagrams for Citibank $ Bunny>

Anyone have a scan of this ad?
Would like to see the ad.

(just a reminder do not post ad to list.)

thanks,
    Joe Gilardi

PapaJoe@chorus.net





From: Cathy <cathypl@GENERATION.NET>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 17:27
Subject: Re: New Page with Star Wars Models

At 08:38 PM 99-10-04 -0700, you wrote:
>After several years of thinking about it and severval months of putting
>little bits of time towards it, I've finally got an origami page up and
>running. Also thanks to Joseph Wu for taking most of the pictures for me.
>You'll find my collection of Star Wars models, some personal thoughts as a
>beginning designer as well as my paper miniatures.  The address is
>
>http://home.iSTAR.ca/~wko/index.html
>
>Any comments are welcomed.
>
>Wayne

Wonderful!  Stare Wares never looked so good!  The @@ is particularily clever.

I do hope you will diagram these models for us soon.  I' ll be trying out
the cross wing.

                                        Cathy
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





From: Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 17:29
Subject: About time too

I have created a web site at long last! It's still under construction, I
will be adding more pictures, diagrams, and a counter shortly, but I think
there's enough there to ask for feedback.

If anyone wants me to link to their site, or if you want to include me in
your links section please let me know. So, feel free to go to
http://www.keme.net/~rglynn/ and browse around a bit.





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 20:05
Subject: Update on Oriland books and CDs

To all who ordered the materials so far:

Katrin and Yurii have informed me that they have mailed (under separate cover)
all the books ordered so far and all the CDs except for Oribana which will be
sent when completed. If you don't receive yours in about two weeks, would you
let me know and I'll make sure it was sent?

I can take new orders for the books or CD's at any time either to my e-mail
address or from the Oriland site <origami.aaanet.ru>
Available items include;
   The book of useful objects for a desk -  U.S.$8 includes shipping
   "Skeletons Team" CD $30 plus $5 shipping
   "100 Oriland Origami Originals" CD $30 plus $5 or $1 addition shipping with
other CD ordered.
   "Oribana" CD (Soon to be completed) $30 plus $5 or $1 additional shipping
with other CD ordered.

Thanks for your patience.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 20:45
Subject: Just a thought

I imagine that a lot of people on the list purchase their origami books
online be it for convenience or the lack of a store which can supply at a
reasonable price. To decide which book we buy we can get suggestions from
other members of the list, base our expectations on past books or just read
the bumph on the online retailers page, however apart from other peoples
opinions we are essentially buying blind with often no true idea of what's in
the book and how suitable it is for us.

I was thinking that a good way to sell origami books would be to put a free
diagram online so you could get an idea of the sort of content/level/diagram
style of the book in question ... hardly revolutionary thinking I know but
any thoughts?

Dave-S

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From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 21:32
Subject: Re: Just a thought

I don't think adding a free diagram online is a good idea. It would be
misleading to put a diagram up that won't be a favorite model among most
paperfolders and would might just decrease sells thinking all the models
would be that way.  If it's what would be one of the favorites you have
another problem: many people buy the book for a few models they like and
the rest they don't care about, you give them the model they want why
should they buy the book?  Yet another problem: what about a Tomoko Fuse
book?  Some of her books are like themes in variations.  If you give one
box to fold you could very likely derive the rest and then wouldn't feel
inclined to buy the book.  Also how are you going to get the publisher
agree to let all the online bookstores have a diagram?  How would they see
it?

One thing I can see and I actually see done is showing a sample page of
diagrams so you can see if it's clear enough for you.  It's different from
looking at a book in a store then seeing a sample of it on the web: one is
looking and the other is plagiarism.  It's never going to happen.  In
novels it's okay to use sections of an upcoming novel as advertisement
because it acts a preview to whet your appetite and one section doesn't
reveal to you the entire novel.

That's my two cents.  I agree that it would be way cool if they did that,
but I don't see it ever happening.  Happy folding :)

David





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 21:41
Subject: [NO] a simple question

A simple question: are there any physicists, physics undergrad/grad
students or intended physics majors out there on this list?  Just curious
since I'm a physics major.

David
ps meaning of life=blue, fourier transform of gaussian=gaussian, and why
hasn't anybody replied yet about which issue has the lobster yet?





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 22:28
Subject: Re: Origami for the Century

     Richard Najarian sent me two pages from Eric Kenneway's Complete
Origami

on the topic of Aeroplanes.  The occasion was a class on paper
airplanes that I taught at the Black Ship Festival in Newport, Rhode
Island, USA.  Kenneway noted that James Sakoda's SST had won the first
prize in the origami section in the First International paper airplane
contest.  It was not only the first, but also the biggest paper
airplane contest  of the century.  It began with a full page ad in the
New York Times in 1967, with the Scientific American magazine the
sponsor.and attracted 12,000 contestants from all over the world.
There were prizes for professional and nonprofessional people
interested in aeronotics, and the prizes were silver statues of
Leonardo's hand holding a traditional dart.  Many varieties of paper
airplanes were submitted in the areas of distance, time aloft and
aerobatics, which required actual flying of the planes.  In the origami
division actual flying was not required and Time Magazine reported that
my SST was "unflightworthy." For me the contest was like a shooting
star to which I had hitched a ride.  When I asked Simon and Schuster,
which published the Great International Paper Airplane book by Mander,
Dippel and Gossage about publishing an origami book, which I named
Modern Origami, they quickly accepted.  It was in publication for many
years and and was translated into Italian and German.

     My SST had good flying characteristics, as explained in the recent
 reprint  of Modern Origami by Dover Publications.  The weight is
shifted to the front, aided by the sharp nose, provision is made for
bending of the trailing edges to help lift the nose, and the shape of
the wings appear to provide lift. It is folded from a square and starts
with a kite form created by folding sides to the vertical center line.
I needed to find the lower corner of a square formed from the top part
of the kite form.  Initially I found the point by guess work but later
found that the position of the lower corner could be found simply by
folding the sharp point of the kite form to left or right corner of the
kite form.  Some mathematically inclined friends have demonstrated  by
calculating the angles involved in the folds  which are made that the
position of the corner is correct.

     Perhaps some of you have an origami of the century to report. Time
is running short. James M. Sakoda





From: Missle Casanova <Misle1149@AOL.COM>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 00:26
Subject: Re: The Paper's new look

How  could  i get  this  news  letter?  thanks
                                        Missle





From: cristian martinez <cristianmartinez@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 02:53
Subject: please, help

how can i unsuscribe me to the list?
please mail me to cristianmartinez@hotmail.com

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From: Phil and Amy <sgt.schulz@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 03:57
Subject: Re: Diagram format (Re: my origami creations)

Well, here's an quickish solution for people who don't have a separate
graphics program to resize graphics in.  Some detail is lost, so it only
works for small readjustments (e.g. making an 800 pixel wide GIF fit on an
600 resolution screen). Trying to cram a 2000pixel wide GIF into a 600
screen is probably asking for trouble...

Cut and paste the following into Notepad (or your favorite text editor)
Whatever GIF you put into the quotes will be resized to fit within your
browser window.
Save it with an .htm extension instead of .txt
Open it in your browser.
If the graphic is still too long to print on one page (e.g. A4 proportioned
diagram on American Letter)  then make the width percentage smaller.

----Start cutting here---
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>

<!--Replace what's in the quotes with the URL of the picture
you want resized to fit to your screen.
-Or: if you put this in the same directory as the
saved graphic, just insert the filename in the quotes.
-->

<img src="http://home.att.net/~sgt.schulz/diagrams/tiebombr.gif" width=95%>

</body>
</html>

---Stop cutting here ---

Hope this works for you.

Phil

sgt.schulz@worldnet.att.net
 Origami Star Wars at:
http://home.att.net/~sgt.schulz/





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 05:13
Subject: Re: Just a thought

Like David, I think publishing diagrams from a forthcoming book as a
preview is not the best idea. But it might be worth while having a review
by a good judge of origami books, and a selection of photographs of the
models in the book...

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: "JacAlArt ." <jacalart@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 12:12
Subject: The Paper

Should I have received the latest copy of The Paper by now?

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From: "K. A. Lundberg" <klundber@MNSINC.COM>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 13:09
Subject: Re: Orchid translation

The diagrams can be found at the Origami-Montreal site:

http://www.ecn.ulaval.ca/~pgon/origami/modeles/modeles.html

Jakob asks:

> Im trying to fold the Orchid by Patrick Gonzlez that I found on the net.
I have problems with it and I blame it on that I cant read the language. Can
someone help me?

____________________
It would have been helpful if you told us what problems you were having or
which step you were stuck on...grin.

I presume you can get to step 6 which is just a form of the windmill base
with the flaps folded down and the points indicated in step 5 folded inward.
Fold model in half.

Step 7 and 8 is just the flap folded up and unfolded to give the diagonal
crease...repeat on all four flaps.

Step 9 is a 3 dimensional fold. All you need to get from this fold is the
vertical crease shown in the top diagram. Unfold and repeat on the other
flaps.

Steps 11-16: Fold one flap down. Squash fold the free top flap. Petal fold
the squash. Pull out the top layer freeing the blintzed paper and flatten.
Fold flap up.  Repeat on other side.

Step 17: Preliminary fold the center section resulting in a free center flap
front and back.

Step 18-21: Another squash, petal, free blintz and flatten move like steps
11-16. Repeat on other 3 sides.

Step 23: Outside reverse the four tips with the indicated center triangle
pointing downward. Model will now be completely white.

Step 24-25: Pull the indicated bottom tip all the way upwards spread
squashing the paper underneath then fold the resulting point back downwards.
Repeat on other 3 points.

Step 26-27: Outside reverse the tips and fold the small flap
upwards...repeat naturally. (4 small flaps pointing upwards and 4 long
points pointing outwards)

Step 28: This is a step sink.  It is a bit tricky because it has only 4
sides.  2 sides of the sink will comprise a single small flap and the other
two sides will encompass two long flaps and a small flap closed sunk
together.  Your sink should show as a square ridge in the center of the
flower with the two single flaps pointing upwards and the combined sides
pointing outward.

Step 29: Fold the indicated tips along the existing crease at a 90 degree
angle and insert one into the other forming the hood of the flower.  This
will make the small flap C fold in half and make the base of the flower
triangular.  You are done!!!

This is a really nice flower.

Kalei -- klundber@mnsinc.com
http://www.monumental.com/klundber





From: Missle Casanova <Misle1149@AOL.COM>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 13:34
Subject: just  a  couple  of  questions

Hello  everyone,

        Well,  I  was  wondering  sitting  here  trying  to t hink of stuff
to fold  since  it  finally  dawned on me  that  i've never seen much  about
origami  where  i live  in miami.  I  was  wondering if  anyone knew
anything  about  any kind  of  festival  or  society or  organization  or
anything  down here?   I would  really  like  to find one  oh  and another
question, Where could i find  alot of  diagrams  on geometric  origami?
thanks  for  ur  help  -_-
                                                Missle





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 14:19
Subject: (NO) Re: New Model Challenge

Joseph Wu wrote:

> The tiger in question is by KOMATSU Hideo.

Thank you Joseph. I'd just seen it and didn't remember.

> For the clown loach, take a look at J.C. Nolan's "Creating Origami". He's
> got a "Clown Fish & Sea Anemone" model that you might be able to extract
> the fish from. Here's a picture:
> <http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Gallery/JCNolan/cfsa.html>.

Thank you again. I have asked the local library to see if they can track
down a copy. I've also had a private offer from someone who is going to
give it a go so looks like chances are good :-).

Enjoy your day :-).
Jeff Kerwood





From: Mariska Audriani <audriani@MAIL.JIRAF.NET>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 16:29
Subject: Need diagrams for "usable" and wedding related origami

Dear Group,

I just recently join this group and been learning a lot since then.
I'm looking for suggestions on using origami in my upcoming small wedding
of 15 guests.

I'm thinking of incorporating several box folding (from Tomoko Fuse's
book) and envelopes for tucking in flower seeds as wedding favor, or
perhaps making a book where the guests can sign in, or even folding
flowers for my own bouquet or container to hold candies and nuts, etc.
I'm basically open to almost any suggestion out there.

I've currently been folding 1001 crane as a good luck, but other than
that, I'm looking for any suggestion, with diagram if possible.
Many thanks in advance for your help.

Sincerely,
M. Audriani





From: Lory <lory@NETSIS.IT>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 16:31
Subject: Dover publications

Hi to all,

know anyone if Dover Publ. has a fax number?
I've found only this:

     Dover Publications Inc
     31 E 2nd St, Mineola, NY 11501-3582
     Phone: (516)294-7000

without fax number, as u can see.
(maybe could this number be a voice/fax number?)

Thank you very much,
Lorenzo

 ----------------------------------------
   Lorenzo Lucioni       lory@netsis.it
   Parma, Italy             ICQ: 397363





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 17:35
Subject: Re: i need help ,please.

 Joseph, how is this origami list set up?  do we need to confirm that we
 wish to be subscribed to this list before actually being subscribed?
 I know that most newer lists now require that a message be sent to the
 person's address who wants to get subscribed and that person must reply
 in a positive manner before the process is complete.
 Can we have this feature placed on this list?
 If not then we will be getting a lot of people playing jokes on others
 by subscribing other people to this list without their knowledge.

> a friend suscribme to this as a joke
> how can i unsuscribe me to the list?

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From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 17:39
Subject: Sv:      just  a  couple  of  questions

Misle1149@AOL.COM> asked

>oh  and another
>question, Where could I find  a lot of  diagrams  on geometric  origami?
>thanks  for  ur  help  -_-

Dear  Missle

There are some geometrical models on
http://www.thok.dk/origami.html
Have a look.

Greetings

Thoki Yenn





From: "Michael J. Naughton" <mjnaught@CROCKER.COM>
Date: 09 Oct 1999 18:55
Subject: Re: In Search of Diagrams for Citibank $ Bunny

Scott Cramer wrote:
> I think the $ Bunny in question is the one in this year's OUSA Annual
> collection, model by Ros Joyce, page 127.

Actually, I think that was an earlier version. I believe the one that
is shown in the ad is made from three one-dollar bills. Roz Joyce taught
this at OUSA '99, and she had some rough diagrams for that class. If she's
listening, perhaps she can help. . . .

Mike Naughton





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 02:04
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

There's also a 205-diagram Bahamut (which beat my stego diagrams
by one!) which IMHO, would in itself make the book worth having,
particularly for those with masochistic tendencies.

Complex models aside, there's a cute looking koi by Go Kinoshita, and a
bear. It may be possible to derive the clown loach from the koi, but
this is based on a very preliminary observation. Satoshi Kamiya's T-rex
looks pretty good, too. Good origami does not have to be complex; it
just has to be .... well, good. :o)

An area for a little criticism would be that a fair bit of the diagrams
are also available on the web. It is nice nonetheless to have them in a
nicely bound volume. These include origami by Marc
Kirschenbaum, (Fluffy. Cute, Marc - it's the only paper one in my son's
teddy bear collection),  the Shumakovs, (a really beautiful multi-piece
clown, oleander, etc) Peter Budai, (crocodile, among others) David
Derudas (cobra, butterflies, etc) and Jeremy Shafer (balancing seagull).

JacAlArt . wrote:
>
> If you are looking to add to your Japanese origami book collection, then buy
> it. If you are rich and just have to go blow $30, then buy it. If you are
> looking for a source of new complex diagrams -- DO NOT buy it. On the
> complex side, there's a cool Grim Reaper (no scythe), a Kawahata
> Lobster-Man, and 3-headed dragon. On the high-intermediate side, there's a
> spotted cow and some kind of gnu or something. That's really about it. The
> rest are flowers, boxes, modulars, multi-pieces, more dragons, and other
> assorted junk. It's not that the book totally sucks, but $30 for 5 cool
> diagrams is a bit pricey. Any reviews on the new Montroll book? Lemme guess
> -- there's another elephant.
>
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From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 02:16
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

 Lemme guess
>> -- there's another elephant.
>>
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I didn't notice that before ow what a jab at Montroll!  He might have
created several elephant models but what's bad about that?  They're
different, and that's something neat about origami is that I like that
there is as many ways to fold an elephant as there are paper squares that
dare you to fold them.  That's something great about origami.  It would be
easy to think that there only a few limited ways to fold certain animals,
but that is merely a limitation of the mind and not of the paper.  Our
finished models are pictures not of animals but our vision of the animal
brought forth by the paper.  This is true certainly not only for original
creations but for any model we fold.  We mold and shape the model to what
we see in our mind it should look like.  Seeing different models of an
elephant tells us that there are different ways to see an elephant.

Well that's enough droning on, it's probably all those integrals I do make
me say strang things

David





From: Kam singh <ksl24@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 09:48
Subject: Can Anybody Please Help Me? Reward Offered!

Hi there Mr. Wu,

  First of all I would like to thank you for replying to me email.

What I am trying to do is to created a different kind of magazine.

I have already have the articles written out with all the various images
ect. But what I would like to do is instead of using the same format as with
general magazines I would to make it different, for example I would like
readers to be intrigued by the magazine because it will have folds in it
which the reader can open and play around with.

What I am not trying to do is use origami models to illustrate my subject, I
am just looking for a different way in which I can interest the readers by
having various folds using origami techniques in the magazine.

I believe using origami techniques into the magazine will intrigue the
readers, because I personally have not seen a magazine in such a format.

With any help received I will have a section for you to advertise and will
post a batch over to yourself if you wish.

I look forward in your reply

Thank you again

Kam

P.S

If anybody can help me with this I would be most thankful

>From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Magazine article using Origami-Free Advertising Offered In
>          Return
>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:31:37 -0700
>
>At 10:05 99/10/05 +0100, you wrote:
> >            My name is Kam, I am 27 yrs old and currently working on a
> >project in creating a magazine article using Origami techniques.
> >
> >Can anybody help, or offer some advice on how to produce a 5 - 6 page
> >magazine article in a new and innovative way using the art of origami.
> >
> >The magazine will article will be on a subject about the "Paranormal" and
> >have various topics ranging from Ghosts to Aliens and UFO's.
> >
> >In return for any good advice given, I will add your name to the
>production
> >list of the magazine and or have a section for you to advertise in.
> >
> >I am new to origami and so any tips, advice or even urls of useful sites
> >would be greatly appreciated.
>
>What do you mean, Kam? Are you folding the pages of the magazine, using
>origami models to illustrate your subject, or something else entirely? What
>is this project for? And why origami?
>----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "K. A. Lundberg" <klundber@MNSINC.COM>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 10:39
Subject: Origami related?

It's official!!!  The Origami Web Ring is "everyone's favorite". (Very Large
Grin) At least that is what Cnet Central says.  My questions is why aren't
there any Star Wars Origami Rings? (Besides the obvious copyright
infringement.)

If you missed the show you can find the article at:

http://www.cnet.com/Content/Tv/CNETCentral/Faq/081299.html

Kalei -- klundber@mnsinc.com
http://www.monumental.com/klundber





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 10:39
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

Ronald Koh replying to JacAlArt's disparagements of the Origami
Tanteidan 5th Annual Collection, indited:

+There's also a 205-diagram Bahamut (which beat my stego diagrams
+by one!) which IMHO, would in itself make the book worth having,
+particularly for those with masochistic tendencies.

There is also a 30-40 step dragon which is quite nice as well.

+looks pretty good, too. Good origami does not have to be complex; it
+just has to be .... well, good. :o)

Indeed. As has been commented on this list, in reference to a
particular creators dino models, it can be harder to create good
intermediate/simple models than it is to create complex ones. I
personally think this is a collection worth of owning.

+An area for a little criticism would be that a fair bit of the diagrams
+are also available on the web.

I wouldn't say "fair bit", but some are. My only little criticism is
that English translations for the model names and creator names are
missing for several of the models. ((I'm sure that as soon as Anne
LaVin gets her copy they'll be up on her web page
(http://web.mit.edu/lavin/www/origami.html) ;-), but still, it would
have been nice to have them in the book itself).

Whether the subjects portrayed are worth the cost is a personal matter,
depends on the price as well as the models themselves. This book is as
worth as any origami book. Actually, I'd rank the Tanteidan Collections
2-5 up in the top 10% of books worth owning--I haven't seen the 1st
one, so I cannot include it.

((If you think I never dislike a book ;-), search the archives. ))

-D'gou





From: Missle Casanova <Misle1149@AOL.COM>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 14:07
Subject: Can Anybody Please Help Me? Reward Offered!

hey  i'm  sorry i don't think  I"ll be  much  help  but  i  am  really taking
 a shine  to  this  mag.  ur  trying  to make  i  would  like to know  when
do u think it'll be published  or  on  the  newstand  and what it's  called,
sounds very  interesting  thanks
                                                Missle





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 14:36
Subject: Re: Origami related?

Kalei wondered why there aren't there any origami Star Wars
rings..."besides the obvious copyright infringement."

Kalei, I don't think we have to look beyond "the obvious copyright
infringment". That is a compelling enough reason for someone not to want
to advertise on the world wide web that they have designed an unlicensed
Star Wars model.

Dorothy





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 15:27
Subject: Re: Origami related?

Yeah but she misspelled origami so it doesn't count!  Hey just maybe she
didn't mean origami but the ancient art of killing people with fluffy
bears: oragami.

David





From: Jake Crowley <jakecrow@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 16:12
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

Are you saying that I can get models by David Dreudas from the web??? Could
you please tell me where if I can!! :) Thanks

>From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review
>Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:02:46 +0800
>
>There's also a 205-diagram Bahamut (which beat my stego diagrams
>by one!) which IMHO, would in itself make the book worth having,
>particularly for those with masochistic tendencies.
>
>Complex models aside, there's a cute looking koi by Go Kinoshita, and a
>bear. It may be possible to derive the clown loach from the koi, but
>this is based on a very preliminary observation. Satoshi Kamiya's T-rex
>looks pretty good, too. Good origami does not have to be complex; it
>just has to be .... well, good. :o)
>
>An area for a little criticism would be that a fair bit of the diagrams
>are also available on the web. It is nice nonetheless to have them in a
>nicely bound volume. These include origami by Marc
>Kirschenbaum, (Fluffy. Cute, Marc - it's the only paper one in my son's
>teddy bear collection),  the Shumakovs, (a really beautiful multi-piece
>clown, oleander, etc) Peter Budai, (crocodile, among others) David
>Derudas (cobra, butterflies, etc) and Jeremy Shafer (balancing seagull).
>
>
>JacAlArt . wrote:
> >
> > If you are looking to add to your Japanese origami book collection, then
>buy
> > it. If you are rich and just have to go blow $30, then buy it. If you
>are
> > looking for a source of new complex diagrams -- DO NOT buy it. On the
> > complex side, there's a cool Grim Reaper (no scythe), a Kawahata
> > Lobster-Man, and 3-headed dragon. On the high-intermediate side, there's
>a
> > spotted cow and some kind of gnu or something. That's really about it.
>The
> > rest are flowers, boxes, modulars, multi-pieces, more dragons, and other
> > assorted junk. It's not that the book totally sucks, but $30 for 5 cool
> > diagrams is a bit pricey. Any reviews on the new Montroll book? Lemme
>guess
> > -- there's another elephant.
> >
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From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 17:49
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

>Are you saying that I can get models by David Dreudas from the web??? Could
>you please tell me where if I can!! :) Thanks

Here you go:

http://195.31.193.71:80/cdo/modelli/models-index.html

Happy folding!

David





From: Lory <lory@NETSIS.IT>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 17:55
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

Jake Crowley wrote:

> Are you saying that I can get models by David Dreudas from the web??? Could
> you please tell me where if I can!! :) Thanks

If you want, You can get some of them here:

http://www.essenet.it/cdo/modelli/elencomesi.html
http://www.essenet.it/cdo/modelli/models-index.html

Bye,
Lorenzo

 ----------------------------------------
   Lorenzo Lucioni       lory@netsis.it
   Parma, Italy             ICQ: 397363





From: Eric Andersen <ema@NETSPACE.ORG>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 17:55
Subject: Re: In Search of Diagrams for Citibank $ Bunny

On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Papa Joe wrote:

>Anyone have a scan of this ad?
>Would like to see the ad.

I believe it is this:

http://www.paperfolding.com/images/dollarbillrabbit.jpg

-Eric :-P
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http://www.paperfolding.com

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From: "Chrissy T." <LUNA21483@AOL.COM>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 18:28
Subject: Newcomer and Question

Hi everyone! As the title says, I'm new to the group. ^_^ I just signed on
yesterday. I really hope to learn a lot from this ML! Right now I'm
interested in fantasy and dinosaur origami. Does anyone know of any good
books on those subjects? I'm looking for that type at a sort of Intermediate
skill level. Thanks!

~*~Luna~*~





From: Shalom LeVine <shalom.levine@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 18:39
Subject: Re: Newcomer and Question

Chrissy,

 John Montroll's "Mythological Creature and the Chinese zodiac in Origami"
is just what you're looking for!

Shalom

-----Original Message-----
From: Chrissy T. <LUNA21483@AOL.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:39:36 -0400
Subject: Newcomer and Question

>Hi everyone! As the title says, I'm new to the group. ^_^ I just signed on
>yesterday. I really hope to learn a lot from this ML! Right now I'm
>interested in fantasy and dinosaur origami. Does anyone know of any good
>books on those subjects? I'm looking for that type at a sort of
Intermediate
>skill level. Thanks!
>
>~*~Luna~*~





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 18:54
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

Jake,
At 13.10 10/10/1999 PDT, you wrote:
>Are you saying that I can get models by David Dreudas from the web??? Could
>you please tell me where if I can!! :) Thanks

Try the CDO website at:

http://www.essenet.it/cdo

I'll send you other hints privately.
Roberto





From: Jake Crowley <jakecrow@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 20:02
Subject: Re: Thanks for help with diagrams

Thanks for all your help with the diagrams of some of Mr.  Derudas' models!
I didnt expect to get an answer from 3 or more people :)

>From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review
>Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:49:57 -0700
>
> >Are you saying that I can get models by David Dreudas from the web???
>Could
> >you please tell me where if I can!! :) Thanks
>
>
>Here you go:
>
>http://195.31.193.71:80/cdo/modelli/models-index.html
>
>Happy folding!
>
>David
>

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From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 20:15
Subject: Re: Origami books

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, david whitbeck wrote:

> 1. favorite book?  favorite model?

Such a hard question. I think that number 4 probably contains the most
complex folds ie reindeer, maitreya, kingfisher, centaur etc, but each
collection has something that makes it special.

> 2. which book had Kawahata's lobster?

number 3, right after the Yoda model

> 3. was it the same book that had the godzilla and/or yoda and/or the Fuse
     shell?

Number three certainly had Yoda and the shell, but Godzilla appeared in
number 4. Also includes phoenix, great squirrel by Hideo Komatso, skull by
Hojo, nice-looking cat....and the list goes on. What a wonderful
collection of models, for such a good price!

regards
Michael Janssen-Gibson





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 20:36
Subject: Re: Can Anybody Please Help Me? Reward Offered!

It sounds as though you are wanting information on book arts, and their
use of origami. I have seem some wonderful publications by Shreen
LaPlantz, who uses pockets, windows, and other folding techniques to
generate interest in her books.

You might also want to consider using flexagons as a basis for your
design. I was looking at Paul Jackson's BOS publication on the weekend,
and saw a couple of square flexagons that revealed four different faces.
Paul also demonstrated how the flexagon could be used to tell a story of
caterpillars growing into butterflies (I think?), using the different
flexagon faces.

Hope this helps

regards

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From: "John R. Mizell" <superj@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 20:52
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

david whitbeck wrote:

> >Are you saying that I can get models by David Dreudas from the web??? Could
> >you please tell me where if I can!! :) Thanks
>
> Here you go:
>
> http://195.31.193.71:80/cdo/modelli/models-index.html
>
> Happy folding!
>
> David

        I thank you for the URL. I haven't seen these diagrams
    before.  There is one that I am curious about. It is on this page:

     http://www.essenet.it/cdo/modelli/mese1198a.html

        It is a flower, but the diagrams start with "step 11 of the tree".
    Try as I might, I cannot find diagrams for the "tree". Can you help
    me?  I would like to see how this looks when folded.

        Thank you,

        John
        superj@bellsouth.net





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 21:52
Subject: Re: Just a thought

On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Dave Stephenson wrote:

> diagram online so you could get an idea of the sort of content/level/diagram
> style of the book in question

Gallery Origami House have done something along these lines, and I have
found it most useful in encouraging my hand to reach for the wallet :}.

Actually I think the photos of completed models are more useful than
diagram samples - about all the latter can tell you is whether they are
clear or not, amount of text used (and language). True, this is something
more than you knew before seeing the book, but as to the flow of folding
sequence, difficulty of folds etc, you really need some first-hand
experience or a review from a fellow folder.

regards
Michael





From: Greg Leigh <gregory@SUNET.NET>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 21:58
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

If you go to the models of the month from 1998, I believe one of those is a
tree

> david whitbeck wrote:
>
> > >Are you saying that I can get models by David Dreudas from the web???
Could
> > >you please tell me where if I can!! :) Thanks
> >
> > Here you go:
> >
> > http://195.31.193.71:80/cdo/modelli/models-index.html
> >
> > Happy folding!
> >
> > David
>
>         I thank you for the URL. I haven't seen these diagrams
>     before.  There is one that I am curious about. It is on this page:
>
>      http://www.essenet.it/cdo/modelli/mese1198a.html
>
>         It is a flower, but the diagrams start with "step 11 of the tree".
>     Try as I might, I cannot find diagrams for the "tree". Can you help
>     me?  I would like to see how this looks when folded.
>
>         Thank you,
>
>         John
>         superj@bellsouth.net





From: Karen Reeds <reeds@OPENIX.COM>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 22:40
Subject: getting in touch with Dover

>
>Date:    Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:28:58 +0200
>From:    Lory <lory@NETSIS.IT>
>Subject: Dover publications
>
>Hi to all,
>
>know anyone if Dover Publ. has a fax number?
>I've found only this:
>
>     Dover Publications Inc
>     31 E 2nd St, Mineola, NY 11501-3582
>     Phone: (516)294-7000
>
>
>without fax number, as u can see.
>(maybe could this number be a voice/fax number?)
>
>
>Thank you very much,
>Lorenzo
>
> ----------------------------------------
>   Lorenzo Lucioni       lory@netsis.it
>   Parma, Italy             ICQ: 397363

Dover's catalogues say that they only take orders by mail, not by phone
(and presumably not fax or email).  So use the street address and
old-fashioned mail.
Karen





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 22:44
Subject: Re: Newcomer and Question

Hi Chrissy!  Try Origami Fantasy and Prehistoric Origami.  I personally
think that Origami Fantasy is far better than Prehistoric Origami.

David





From: "John R. Mizell" <superj@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Date: 10 Oct 1999 23:36
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

        Thanks Greg!  I don't read Spanish, so I was going by the
    English that was on the page.  I saw "Fairyland", glanced at the
    picture and thought it looked like a mushroom, and skipped right
    over it. I see my mistake.  Thanks so much.

        John
        superj@bellsouth.net

Greg Leigh wrote:

> If you go to the models of the month from 1998, I believe one of those is a
> tree
>
> > david whitbeck wrote:
> >
> > > >Are you saying that I can get models by David Dreudas from the web???
> Could
> > > >you please tell me where if I can!! :) Thanks
> > >
> > > Here you go:
> > >
> > > http://195.31.193.71:80/cdo/modelli/models-index.html
> > >
> > > Happy folding!
> > >
> > > David
> >
> >         I thank you for the URL. I haven't seen these diagrams
> >     before.  There is one that I am curious about. It is on this page:
> >
> >      http://www.essenet.it/cdo/modelli/mese1198a.html
> >
> >         It is a flower, but the diagrams start with "step 11 of the tree".
> >     Try as I might, I cannot find diagrams for the "tree". Can you help
> >     me?  I would like to see how this looks when folded.
> >
> >         Thank you,
> >
> >         John
> >         superj@bellsouth.net





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 01:03
Subject: OUSA Paper Newsletter

Has anyone on the West Coast received The Paper?

Dorothy...Paperless





From: Vicky Avery <vavery@WENET.NET>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 01:48
Subject: Re: OUSA Paper Newsletter

I received mine early last week and I think I may have the first class
postage option.

I like the improvements, and the goal of more issues per year!

Vicky

----------
>From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: OUSA Paper Newsletter
>Date: Sun, Oct 10, 1999, 10:03 PM
>

> Has anyone on the West Coast received The Paper?
>
> Dorothy...Paperless





From: Kam singh <ksl24@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 07:16
Subject: PLEASE HELP ME!!

IF YOU KNOW OF ANY EXISTING MAGAZINES OR ANY OTHER RESOURCES THAT COULD BE
OF HELP TO ME, THEN PLEASE COULD YOU EMAIL THEM TO ME..THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME.

The Paranormal

I intend to create an "interactive magazine".  What I mean by this is that I
intend to create a magazine, which will be on the subject about the
paranormal and will include topics such as ghosts, aliens, UFO's and also
the unexplained, i.e. Lock Ness monster and the Bigfoot.

The element which will make this different from that of a normal paranormal
magazine is that it will be designed using Origami techniques.

The reason for the use of Origami in this project is because I, as well as
other people whom I have talked to, believe that if you were to display two
magazines, one of which was a "normal" magazine and the other was designed
using Origami methodology, then potential reader would be drawn to the
magazine which was designed using Origami.  The advantage to this would be
that the reader would be able to unfold and refold the magazine in different
ways but always keeping the same consistency in the magazine, i.e. pictures
would match from one page to another etc.

The reasoning behind this is due to psychology of how people receive and
interpret information and it is these elements which will make this magazine
different from the main stream.

I have personally have seen very little in this field and believe that it
will be a challenge to research and design a magazine of this type, an
"Interactive Magazine" about the Paranormal

IF YOU CAN HELP WITH THIS PROJECT IN ANY WAY I WOULD BE MOST GRATEFUL AND
WILL OFFER A SECTION IN THE MAGAZINE FOR YOU TO ADVERTISE IN.

THANK YOU

KAM

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From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@KIMSCRANE.COM>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 07:35
Subject: Re: OUSA Paper Newsletter

I have yet to receive mine and I live in Virginia. Today is a holiday in
the USA so no mail.  Maybe tomorrow.....
Kimberly
http://www.kimscrane.com

Vicky Avery wrote:

> I received mine early last week and I think I may have the first class
> postage option.
>
> I like the improvements, and the goal of more issues per year!
>
> Vicky
>
> ----------
> >From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
> >To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> >Subject: OUSA Paper Newsletter
> >Date: Sun, Oct 10, 1999, 10:03 PM
> >
>
> > Has anyone on the West Coast received The Paper?
> >
> > Dorothy...Paperless





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 09:25
Subject: Re: getting in touch with Dover

Lory asked about Dover Publications:

>>know anyone if Dover Publ. has a fax number?

Karen replied:

>Dover's catalogues say that they only take orders by mail, not by phone
>(and presumably not fax or email).  So use the street address and
>old-fashioned mail.

    Not only must you place orders by mail, but you have to include payment-
they do not take Visa or M/C, or any method of payment other than personal
check. This might be a problem if you are ordering from overseas... I don't
mean this to sound like a complaint, I admire their ability to be so
successful while thumbing their nose at modern commercial practice.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net
Littleton, NH USA





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 12:28
Subject: Report on the 2nd SOM

Hello Everybody,

Just shortly back on the list to tell about the 2nd SOM:

This year Origami Sverige (in cooperation with Origami Finland) has
organised the 2nd Scandinavian Origami Meeting from 1-3 October in
Stockholm. The meeting was "traditionally" very international again.
Participants were from Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Italy,
Netherlands, Poland, Spain, USA and Hungary besides Sweden of course. To
cite names (without seeking to list everyone): Lionel Albertino, Krystyna
and Wojtek Burczyk, David Derudas, Alfredo Giunta, Herman van Goubergen,
Robert Lang, Jorma Oksanen, Mette Pederson, Claudine Pisasale, Jan Polish,
Sadi Sandell (and by the way, me too,) not forgetting the engines of the
convention: Dino and Antonieta Andreozzi (Thank You Very Much!). It was
also nice to meet more Swedish paperfolders than last year.

What these three days were like? Lots of fun, lots of folding, lots to see
and show in a wonderful athmosphere. The meeting was held at the same place
as last year (at "Hagelbyparken", a public park outside Stockholm) but a
month before (so as not to clash with other conventions in the UK and
Italy). Each participant received a great 104-page convention book, mostly
with models from people who attended (which means it is really matterful!).

During the convention of course there was teaching going on, three classes
at a time (simple, intermediate and complex). And now, those who did not
come can really regret it: we had Robert Lang teaching his moose, we had
Lionel Albertino talking about how he designs... and a lot of nice models
from both of them at the exhibition which was even larger than last year: a
wonderful Giunta show and the beautiful Derudas models, the works of the
Finnish contingent, modulars by the Burczyks etc... All the submitted works
for the International Butterfly Exhibition and Competition were exibited, too.

All the paper that we folded up during the convention was supplied by
ORIGAMI PAPER OPP AB, the firm that produces the Swedish paper that I spoke
about last year, too. This year they have came up with new colors based on
last year's requests.

But fun and folding did not start and end in the three days of the
convention. Several folders were guest of the Andreozzis, and when folders
are together, nothing can stop them. (One thing we were short of: sleeping.
But who needs sleep at a convention?)

This was just a glimpse at what happened not long ago in Stockholm. It is
impossible to describe everything in words, if you want to know what it is
really like, come next year!

Peter Budai





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 14:46
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

John,
At 23.34 10/10/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>        Thanks Greg!  I don't read Spanish, so I was going by the
>    English that was on the page.
>

NO need to read Spanish..... provided you can read Italian (that's what it
is !)

<:-)

Roberto





From: BoyohBoy17@AOL.COM
Date: 11 Oct 1999 16:21
Subject: Postscript files

    What can I use to open PostScript files?





From: "Chrissy T." <LUNA21483@AOL.COM>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 16:42
Subject: Re: Newcomer and Question

I just wanted to say "Thanks" to everyone who replied to my e-mail! ^_^ I was
     wondering though if there's some sites out there that have examples of
     work from those origami books? Aside from that, I know that A-1 book store
     has over 100 origami books in s
 ock! Rather impressive I'd say. =D I haven't ordered from them yet, but I hope
     to and find some of those books you guys mentioned there.

~*~Luna~*~





From: John Hancock <jwhancock34@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 16:51
Subject: Re: Postscript files

A PostScript file opener?

--- BoyohBoy17@AOL.COM wrote:
>     What can I use to open PostScript files?
>

=====

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From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 17:15
Subject: Re: Postscript files

There are 2 programs that do this well for the windows platform, the easiest
is ROPS (shareware), and the best one is GhostScript (freeware).

Both can be had on the web.

For ghost script go to www.aladdin.com and follow a link or 2.
Dunno the address for ROPS.

Brett

-----Original Message-----
From: John Hancock [mailto:jwhancock34@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 4:01 PM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Postscript files

A PostScript file opener?

--- BoyohBoy17@AOL.COM wrote:
>     What can I use to open PostScript files?
>

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From: Rona Gurkewitz <GURKEWITZ@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 17:22
Subject: Re: Newcomer and Question

Chrissy,

   My new site www.wcsu.ctstateu.edu/~gurkewitz/homepage.html  has photos
of modular origami polyhedra folded from my two books.

Rona





From: Jake Crowley <jakecrow@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 18:09
Subject: Re: Diagrams of Some of Mr. Lang's models

Hi,

I have seen some pictures of some amazing and beautiful models by Mr. Robert
Lang such as a : "Black forest Cuckoo Clock",  "Moose",  "Allosaurus
skeleton", and a few others that i cant think of at the moment. I was
wondering if any of these are diagrammed anywhere, in any form, because i
want to make them all right now :) They look great, especcially the
Allosaurus skeleton, i would LOVE to make that. If anyone knows of or has
diagrams of any of these models (if they are actually diagrammed), please
let me know. Thanks very much.

Jake Crowley
jakecrow@hotmail.com

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From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 18:14
Subject: Re: Diagrams of Some of Mr. Lang's models

AFAIK none of the models that you have listed below are diagrammed.
Although I heard tell on this list a while back that maybe the skeleton
might be published.

In a recent posting I think Peter Budai mentioned that Robert taught the
Moose model at the Swedish convention.

I always considered the black forest clock to be a one of a kind.

Brett

-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Crowley [mailto:jakecrow@HOTMAIL.COM]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 5:08 PM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Diagrams of Some of Mr. Lang's models

Hi,

I have seen some pictures of some amazing and beautiful models by Mr. Robert
Lang such as a : "Black forest Cuckoo Clock",  "Moose",  "Allosaurus
skeleton", and a few others that i cant think of at the moment. I was
wondering if any of these are diagrammed anywhere, in any form, because i
want to make them all right now :) They look great, especcially the
Allosaurus skeleton, i would LOVE to make that. If anyone knows of or has
diagrams of any of these models (if they are actually diagrammed), please
let me know. Thanks very much.

Jake Crowley
jakecrow@hotmail.com

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From: "John R. Mizell" <superj@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 18:19
Subject: Re: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

Robby/Laura wrote:

> John,
> At 23.34 10/10/1999 -0400, you wrote:
> >        Thanks Greg!  I don't read Spanish, so I was going by the
> >    English that was on the page.
> >
>
> NO need to read Spanish..... provided you can read Italian (that's what it
> is !)
>
> <:-)
>
> Roberto

        See... it's even worse than I thought. I am completely
    illiterate when it comes to foreign tongues. I thought I was going
    to be smart and took Latin in high school. (No need to speak it,
    just be able to read it.) And look where I am, now. Oh well...
    I guess I'll have to learn another someday.

       Thanks again though,

        John   :-)





From: Penny Groom <penny.groom@BTINTERNET.COM>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 18:55
Subject: Penny Groom's new e-mail address

Please note my new e-mail address is

penny.groom@btinternet.com

My old address penny@sector.demon.co.uk will still be 'live' till the
end of the year but please use the new one,

Thanks.

Penny
Penny Groom
Membership Secretary, British Origami Society
BOS Homepage
http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 19:22
Subject: Re: Just a thought

I've had a look at origami house now, and I do like the way it has a few
examples of what the diagrams in some books look like ... the want factor for
Origami fantasy is growing daily.... =D

Incidentally I was thinking perhaps a better solution than my last thought
would be a web page that authors could contribute to and at the same time
promote their books. Not so much for the Lang's and the Montroll's but for
the smaller player's who might not otherwise be heard of...

Dave-( nothing if not persistent)-S





From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 19:28
Subject: Squirrel's!!

The squirrel on Origami house by Hideo Komatsu, is there a diagram and where
can I get hold of it!!!!!

Dave-S





From: "Chrissy T." <LUNA21483@AOL.COM>
Date: 11 Oct 1999 20:38
Subject: Re: Newcomer and Question

In a message dated 10/11/99 4:22:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
GURKEWITZ@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU writes:

<< My new site www.wcsu.ctstateu.edu/~gurkewitz/homepage.html  has photos
 of modular origami polyhedra folded from my two books.

 Rona >>

Wow! I must say, that looks really nice! =) It looks like a Christmas wreath.
^_^ Very nice! I wish I could do something like that. I'm really a newbie to
Origami, so I've got a lot to learn. Hopefully though, I'll learn a lot from
this mailing list. =)

~*~Luna~*~
