




From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
Date: 06 Oct 1999 21:35
Subject: Re: Origami books (kinda long)

Well, I've received quite a lot of help with my selections and Im now off to
Amazon to place my order for a Tokmo Fuse book and an Oru volume if they've
got one.

Time to kill before it they arrive so I thought I'd give my opinions on some
of the non Lang/Montroll books I own (if only for the simple fact i'd
recommend all L&M books without question).

Scott recommended 'Origami for the Connoisseur' by Kasahara & Takahama, I
tried to order this from a local bookshop last year and they couldn't get a
copy, so I ended up with creative origami by Kasahara instead. This is a
great book for beginners as the models are fairly easy to fold, but to fold
them really well can take a lot of practise i.e the masks and the octopus.
Hands up everyone whose ended up doing the octopus in this book and first
time round it was a perfect example of crumplegami :)  Theres also a nice
section in the back on creating origami ... even if the Kunihiko's a little
too fond of the scissors solution;)

Another good one for beginners is 'The new origami' by Steve and Megumi
Biddle it contains a little bit of everything modular, puzzle's, flowers,
animals and dino's. Some of the best models in the book include:

The sinkfold flower, this is a great training fold if you're ever teaching
someone who has difficulty with sinkfolds just teach them this. Nearly every
fold in the model is a double sink fold : ). It looks quite good when it's
finished and because of it's simple design it's nearly impossible to forget.
Also i've found that it can help to give people a perspective of how the
folds effect the final model and easy access to some of the more tricky
techniques for a beginner.

The Koala, this model can cling onto fingers or monitors and for a subject
that's so popular it seldom seems to have found it's way into many origami
books to date... Maybe it's about time for a M&L animals downunder edition...

The model on the cover the Fumiaki Kawabata's Pteranodon, still the best
pteranodon model I've seen diagrams for to date, it has three claws on each
of its hands & feet and when you move the wings the jaws open and close. This
is still one of my favourite models ... if only for the fun of watching a
whole office of people wait for me to leave it on top of my monitor ... once
it's there it's free game ... watch WW3 begin:) )

Next book Engel's 'Angelfish to Zen' most people have this already but if you
don't go out and buy it today. The first half of the book gives you an
insight into the workings and history of origami, creativity, zen and the
mind of Peter Engel that would be truly unattainable elsewhere (especially in
only 50 pages or so) the book would be worth buying for this alone. Many may
find the diagrams a little difficult to follow and I would recommend a trip
to the errata faq on Joseph's page but every model in the book is worth
folding ... even if you can only manage the three fish at the beginning it
will still be a worthwhile experience. Add to this the written instructions
for every step which make you think about what you are doing as you make each
fold, essential when you're teaching beginners a new model but it's not
normally something you'd think about ... at least i don't anyway:)

Beautiful, wild and the other one origami there are some nice models in these
but look before you buy. The best of these books has a truly fantastic spider
which relies so much on symmetry that you can memorise it in one go ... and a
dancing bear which is quite good as well. I might be a bit too negative on
these books but I still Havant forgiven them for having a 6 legged Green ant
thing on the back cover, then not having the common decency to include the
diagram: (The book was polythene wrapped and I couldn't see inside so I
bought the damn book solely for this model (growl.  curse ... 'smile' I
never let the little things get me down...)

Next book Dinosaur Origami - Fumiaki Kawahata, this is a good book but try
and borrow it first. I really like this book and some of the ideas in it,
such as the two part triceratops which means that you can use several
different heads with the same body (such as the monocololosaurus or the one
with spiky bits on the plate...) or the two part Stegosaurus which only takes
about 1/2 hour to make instead of the four hour for the Montroll one. My one
problem with the book is that it isn't very challenging I've only had the
book now for about a week and I've already memorised most of the diagrams
usually it takes me about a month or so to do that to a book. Im still not
sure if that's a good or a bad thing. Highlights the T-rex, velicioraptors,
and the fish. A big plus for this book is that the models are v.easy so yet
again perfect for the beginner or those who don't have patience for M's
prehistoric origami (or fancy a change... or waiting for the next damn book
to arrive:) )

Oh! By the way the Brachiosaurus etc apparently they couldn't lift their
heads/necks the way we always see the in books and models (i.e. giraffe
style), research shows that they actually stuck out in front (errm like an
alligator with a 30ft neck). Time to readjust all those origami then...
Walking with dinos BBC1 8:00pm (I think)  Mondays for anyone in the UK that's
interested.

Final book Robert Harbins 'Teach yourself origami' 30 million copies sold,
quite possibly the first origami book many Uk on the list bought as it's one
of the few origami books readily available in WHSmiths and public libraries.
First published in 1968 this is the perfect book for anyone starting out in
origami. It starts with short history of origami past and present then takes
you through a variety of origami from the symbolic (such as the sanbow) to
the practical (baskets, cups, water bombs...). In all honesty it's worth
buying for the stretched bird base penguins and squirrel alone. It may cheat
and use scissors and I think it may even mention glue at one point both of
which as most know by now I find abhorrent, even if some of the models look a
little dated I would still recommend this book to anyone. Admittedly the book
is heavily more orientated towards beginners but what did you expect from a
book entitled teach yourself origami.

Lets face it at 3.99 you can't really go wrong can you...

"If this art form captures you, as it has certainly captured me and many
others, you will discover that it brings with it a new dimension in
enjoyment, which is infinite in its variety and unrivalled in its capacity to
make you relax and forget everything else"
                                          Robert Harbin "Preface to TYO"
Dave-S

**********************************************************************
* Dear Santa,

*    While others may ask for world peace,
*    an end to hunger, a playstation or other
*    unattainable sophistry I realise that you
*    are probably more orientated towards small
*    consumer items, all I want for Christmas is
*    Kawahata's 'Origami Fantasy'' ... and possibly an elf.
*    I promise to be reallly really good
*         Yours
*             Dave-S





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 06 Oct 1999 22:13
Subject: Re: Origami books

In a message dated 10/5/99 9:58:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
shalom.levine@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

<< There are some amazing books I intend to order from Japan. Here is the
site;
 take a look at some of the most beautiful and complex models you could  ask
 for!

  http://www.remus.dti.ne.jp/~origamih/hanbai/shoseki1/ehpj1112.htm

 Shalom
  >>
Dear Shalom,

The books you are referring to are indeed wonderful additions to anyone's
origami library.  However, you should be aware that trying to order anything
from Japan poses a problem.  The Japanese banks impose a very high processing
fee of $25.00 to process ANY foreign currency document (money order, personal
check, etc.).

The Origami House Gallery will accept only International Postal Money Orders
which are available at certain post offices.  Mr. Yamaguchi does not have to
pay any fees to redeem these documents and it is very easy to process.  The
cost of the International Postal Money Orders is US$3.00 per document with
value up to US$700.00.

Naturally, you can order the books directly from Mr. Yamaguchi in Tokyo.
However, some of the books are already available from various origami book
sources here in US.  In particular, I have been selected to be Mr.
Yamaguchi's contact for the Tanteidan Convention book #4(very limited supply)
& #5 as well as his latest book, Joyful Life With Origami.  I am also
accepting orders for JOAS (Japan Origami Academic Society) membership.

If you are interested in more information, please contact me privately.  Many
people on this list have already taken advantage of this special offer as it
makes ordering books and membership much easier for all concerned.

Sincerely,

June





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 06 Oct 1999 22:54
Subject: Re: Origami books (kinda long)

Interesting indeed, though I don't buy the same books as you do Dave!  I
have Engel and the only Kasahara book I have is the conn. one which is just
great!  I think that Engel's diagrams are clear and logical.  It's when I
actually fold the models I realize they're alot harder than they look due
to the models being thick.  Luckily enough Origami Fantasy doesn't have
multisheet models, which is good (that's just my demented view of things!)
Now I don't get this business about taking four hours to fold Montroll's
stegosaurus!  I folded it without mistakes from Prehistoric Origami in an
hour and a half just a few weeks ago without rushing.  I was surprised when
I refolded it after so long to find it was so easy, it was my impression it
was supposed to be a difficult fold but it's not.  To those who think I'm
bragging, if you fold it you'll realize I'm not, it is easy.  Happy folding
to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David





From: Pat Ellis <EllisPS@AOL.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 00:37
Subject: Re: Tree Festival

Thanks for your offer.  I have pictures of all the flags.  I plan to scan and
print them to create a garland of flags to wrap around the tree.  I am still
looking for decorations though.  Keep your eyes open for a site for me.

Thanks,

Pat





From: Pat Ellis <EllisPS@AOL.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 00:42
Subject: Re: Diagram format (Re: my origami creations)

I have a question about printing the diagrams in these different formats.  If
the diagrams are larger than the screen meaning you have to scroll left or
right, how can I print a complete diagram.  Right now they get cut off.

Pat





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: 07 Oct 1999 00:54
Subject: Re: Creativity Criteria

Dave, do you have a diagram for the 12 pc. omega star?  If so could you
describe how it is made and even perhaps send me a copy of same.  Dorothy
Kaplan, 5 Brookwood Dr., Freehold, N. J. 07728.  Just asking......Dorigami





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 03:17
Subject: Re: Diagram format (Re: my origami creations)

>I have a question about printing the diagrams in these different formats.  If
>the diagrams are larger than the screen meaning you have to scroll left or
>right, how can I print a complete diagram.  Right now they get cut off.
>
>Pat

Open it with a paint program or a graphics converter or adobe, etc. and
rescale it then print it.  Of course using adobe you can have it fit it the
page and print it in one command.

David





From: "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel@EXC.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 09:31
Subject: Origami for the Connoisseur

>Scott recommended 'Origami for the Connoisseur' by Kasahara & Takahama, I
>tried to order this from a local bookshop last year and they couldn't get a

This was just re-released, and last I checked, B&N has it.





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 09:38
Subject: Re: Origami books

Just my two pence worth...

1) I'm starting work on my reviews section on my web page. This will not be
ready for at least a couple of weeks, but when it is, there will be pages
dedicated to each book. It will include a crude scan of the front cover, the
author, publisher, price, edition no and ISBN (i'll do american
values...most of my books have dollar prices on the back), as well as a
model list and a few paragraphs of my opinions about the book. This section
will be designed for folks of all levels who are thinking about buying
origami books.

2) Secondly, Brachisaur was quite capable of reaching branches...the other
sauropod, the _Diplodicus_ was the one with the postulated 'hoover neck'
that swung from side to side eating everything. One thing I agree with; the
BBC series 'Walking with Dinosaurs' truely is excellent, way better than
Jurassic Park and it's clones. It sets out to be a nature documentry, and
the special effects are amazing.
By the way, its inspired a few new dinosaurs...Ive got an interesting
looking coelophysis coming along.

All the best,

Stephen

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From: Marianne Levin <mariannele@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 7 Oct 1999 09:46
Subject: 1000 cranes

Brian wrote where I can find pictures of crane-mobiles. They are beautiful.
But now I wounder about  constelations with a "headcrane" that someone wrote
about. I hope anyone knows about that.
I like this list. I have learnt so much theese 2 month I have enyoed it.
Marianne

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From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 09:47
Subject: Re: Origami books

> From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon [mailto:fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM]
>
>One thing I agree with; the BBC series 'Walking with
>Dinosaurs' truely is excellent, way better than
>Jurassic Park and it's clones. It sets out to be a
>nature documentry, and

It looked very nice but it seemed to presume a lot about the dinosaur
behaviors.
JP etc. did so too but they could do so to aid the flow of the story.

--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon [mailto:fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM]
Sent: 07 October 1999 12:41
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Origami books

Just my two pence worth...

1) I'm starting work on my reviews section on my web page. This will not be
ready for at least a couple of weeks, but when it is, there will be pages
dedicated to each book. It will include a crude scan of the front cover, the
author, publisher, price, edition no and ISBN (i'll do american
values...most of my books have dollar prices on the back), as well as a
model list and a few paragraphs of my opinions about the book. This section
will be designed for folks of all levels who are thinking about buying
origami books.

2) Secondly, Brachisaur was quite capable of reaching branches...the other
sauropod, the _Diplodicus_ was the one with the postulated 'hoover neck'
that swung from side to side eating everything. One thing I agree with; the
BBC series 'Walking with Dinosaurs' truely is excellent, way better than
Jurassic Park and it's clones. It sets out to be a nature documentry, and
the special effects are amazing.
By the way, its inspired a few new dinosaurs...Ive got an interesting
looking coelophysis coming along.

All the best,

Stephen

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From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 11:03
Subject: Golden Opportunity

Greetings all,

    There are all manner of models out there folded from A4 paper, which
proportions lend itself so well to our uses. But why is the equally
wonderful Golden Rectangle so ignored by paperfolders? It has a great
fractal property (removing a square of the short side leaves you with... a
Golden Rectangle!) as well as huge mathematical and geometric interest.

    I suppose part of the problem is that Golden Rectangles are not as easy
to make as A4 'silver' rectangles, but that shouldn't stop anyone from
exploring their use as an origami starting point.

    So, all those designers out there looking for an untapped direction,
why not have a crack at it? 1:1.618 rules!

Scott scram@landmarknet.net
Littleton, NH USA





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <LOKICORP@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 11:06
Subject: Re: Origami books

Message text written by Origami List
>One thing I agree with; the
BBC series 'Walking with Dinosaurs' truely is excellent, way better than
Jurassic Park and it's clones. It sets out to be a nature documentry, and
the special effects are amazing.<

        Haven't seen hide nor hair of the series yet myself, but there has
been talk aplenty about it on the DInosaur ListServer, and most of the
reviews have been bad.  Not about the special effects, which are reportedly
quite good, but about much of the content, which smacks loudly of
media-altered non-facts instead of scientific hypotheses.  Even some of the
paleontologists interviewed are quite upset about how their words were
skewed completely out of context...

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From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 11:39
Subject: Re: Golden Opportunity

And what about rectangles with side ratios of our friend the plastic number?

David





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 11:48
Subject: Re: Golden Opportunity

david sez:

>And what about rectangles with side ratios of our friend the plastic
number?

    The only plastic numbers I know are the ones on my Visa card, and I'd
prefer not to offer them up for use by the list, thank you very much.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net
Littleton, NH USA





From: Jakob Axelsson <kem97jan@STUDENT2.LU.SE>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 11:51
Subject: Orchid translation

Im trying to fold the Orchid by Patrick Gonzlez that I found on the net. I have
     problems with it and I blame it on that I cant read the language. Can
     someone help me?
Thanks/
Jakob





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 11:57
Subject: Re: Orchid translation

>Im trying to fold the Orchid by Patrick Gonzalez that I found on the net

Got a URL for the diagrams?

Scott scram@landmarknet.net
Littleton, NH USA





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 12:07
Subject: NO Dinosaur behaviour (was Re: Origami books)

Allan wrote :
>It looked very nice but it seemed to presume a lot about the dinosaur
>behaviors.
>JP etc. did so too but they could do so to aid the flow of the story.

Thats what I first thought when I saw episode one. However, the Making of
walking with dinosaurs showed it was not so much presumtion as the latest
scientic thought behind palentology. It was not so much the program makers
who instigated this, it was the army of palentologists that advised them! It
encouraged me to read a bit, and a lot of what they say seems to be
supported by some sort of evidence.

It still is an amazing program...not sure it and when it will be seen in the
states.

Stephen

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From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 12:07
Subject: Re: Origami books

I can vouch for both the excellent quality of the books and service that
June provides.

Received the 4th & 5th Convention Collections and three issues of the
JOAS magazine today. I'm going to put everything else - especially the
endless and mindnumbing diagramming - in limbo for the next few weeks
and do some serious folding from these books ;o)

Thanks a heap, June!

Foldmaster@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> The books you are referring to are indeed wonderful additions to anyone's
> origami library. (snip)
>
> If you are interested in more information, please contact me privately.  Many
> people on this list have already taken advantage of this special offer as it
> makes ordering books and membership much easier for all concerned.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> June





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 12:13
Subject: NO more dinosaurs!

Sorry to carry on, but as said in my last note, it seemed to be made by
palentologists, rather than those trying to entertain, such as Jurassic
Park. I suppose episode 1 dealt mainly with late trissic reptiles and
dinosaurs, of which less is known than the more modern beasts, so ideas were
more open to interpretation. The BBC website has a large amount of info :
www.bbc.co.uk/dinosaurs

Perhaps someone more informed than me can tell me a little more about its
inaccuracies!

Stephen

PS : My girlfriend tells me that my impression of a deinonychus is rather
accurate.

>         Haven't seen hide nor hair of the series yet myself, but there has
>been talk aplenty about it on the DInosaur ListServer, and most of the
>reviews have been bad.  Not about the special effects, which are reportedly
>quite good, but about much of the content, which smacks loudly of
>media-altered non-facts instead of scientific hypotheses.  Even some of the
>paleontologists interviewed are quite upset about how their words were
>skewed completely out of context...
>
>                _,_
>           ____/_\,)                    ..  _
>--____-===(  _\/                         \\/ \-----_---__
>           /\  '                        ^__/>/\____\--------
>__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
>
>                     Jerry D. Harris
>                 Fossil Preparation Lab
>          New Mexico Museum of Natural History
>                   1801 Mountain Rd NW
>               Albuquerque  NM  87104-1375
>                 Phone:  (505) 899-2809
>                  Fax:  (505) 841-2808
>                LOKICORP@compuserve.com

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From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 12:36
Subject: Re: Origami books

Ron Koh writes:

>I can vouch for both the excellent quality of the books and service that
>June provides.
>
>Received the 4th & 5th Convention Collections ...

    I just got my 5th convention book too, WOW! Like I don't spend way too
much time on this stuff anyway!
    On pages 156 through 159 there is an illustrated essay by Fumiaki
Kawahata that explains the design process for the model that follows, as
near as I can figure it given my total inability to read Japanese. It looks
to have much in common with the writing at the end of O. Fantasy, again
unread.
    If someone out there were to translate all this for the benefit of the
list community, I'm sure our appreciation would be boundless... until then
I'll just look at the pictures... and wish there were more hours in the day.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net
Littleton, NH USA





From: Joe Wezorek <joew@DYNAVOXSYS.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 12:50
Subject: Re: Golden Opportunity

>     There are all manner of models out there folded from A4 paper, which
> proportions lend itself so well to our uses. But why is the equally
> wonderful Golden Rectangle so ignored by paperfolders? It has a great
> fractal property (removing a square of the short side leaves you with... a
> Golden Rectangle!) as well as huge mathematical and geometric interest.

It's funny that you mention this -- I was just experimenting with
the golden rectangle all day yesterday. Believe it or not, despite
all of its wonderful properties I couldn't get it to collapse into
a base that was dependent on its unique geometry. On the other hand
the golden triangle and both Penrose rhombuses practically fold
themselves into all kinds of forms.

Joe





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 13:09
Subject: Golden rectangle and Penrose tiles

Hi Joe,

    I would take a SWAG (scientific wild-ass guess) that the G.R. doesn't
want to collapse easily for some reason that relates to Penrose tiles not
repeating when tessellated. Have you got any URL's for Penrose tiles?

Scott scram@landmarknet.net
Littleton, NH USA





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 13:11
Subject: Sv:      Golden Opportunity made longer

Thank You Scott Cramer

This gives me, the G & G Kalmon the chance to
throw in my sllippers and an address
http://www.thok.dk/geometry.html
which with a click will guide you to
http://www.thok.dk/amtogold.html
how to change American Letter size
into a Golden Rectangle.with no scars
except a few nicks in the edge.of the paper.

Thoki Yenn has folded a Pyramid with the proportions of
the Cheops Pyramid in Giza from a golden rectangle
because he found out in his Insanity that the acute angle
between the diagonals in a golden Rectangle
is equal to the top angle in the triangular sides of the Cheops Pyramid
namely 63,43 degrees.

I have not yet been able to push him into making a diagram
for that specific Pyramid model, but it can be folded nearly in the same way
as the Pyramid on http://www.thok.dk/pyramid.html
You just have to work out, how to get the biggest possible square
in between the diagonals.in the Golden Rectangle.
He uses the diagonal in a half square to find it,
that might be a help to you..

I will get him working on this diagram before
the Y2K perhaps makes it un-necessary.

A Merry Golden Christmas to you all

from the G & G Kalmon of the icecold North.





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 13:11
Subject: Re: Kites

Hello,

        Does anyone else remember the tiny kites that Sanny Ang made at a BOS
Convention a couple of years back?

        It wasn't strictly origami, but it flew beautifully just by walking
along with it trailing behind you.

                                                Dennis





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 13:15
Subject: Re: Golden Opportunity

Hi,

        Actually a few of Tomoko Fuse's folds use the golden ratio. I can't
remember exactly which ones though! Sorry!

                                        Dennis





From: P Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 13:23
Subject: Re: Diagram format (Re: my origami creations)

Pat Ellis wrote:
>
> I have a question about printing the diagrams in these different formats.  If
> the diagrams are larger than the screen meaning you have to scroll left or
> right, how can I print a complete diagram.  Right now they get cut off.

Check in the set up printer category under the files menu and also the
warning box when you tell the printer to print one of them should have a
little empty box marked shrink to size.  Unless of course you aren't
using win95 or win 98 then you will have to specify your computer type
and ask the question again so that some one can give you an intelligible
answer.

Perry
--
"Each time he shifted gears he did it as if the Moment of Truth
had arrived in a bullfight"
H. Allen Smith "The Pig in the Barber Shop"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!
Icq 23622644





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 13:42
Subject: Re: the Hour of folding...

... in this case has nothing to do with paper, alack and alas, but with
bringing the flock back into the fold, i.e. 'home' for the night....
... though, come to think of it, it might be an idea for a trick origami
fold - to fold sheep in a valley-fold - or maybe one of those pop-up
cards...?

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Peter Mielke <peter@DOE.UTORONTO.CA>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 13:52
Subject: Re: Kites

Dennis Walker wrote:
> Does anyone else remember the tiny kites that Sanny Ang made at a BOS
> Convention a couple of years back?

Yes, i remember him showing it off while everyone was waiting for the bus
to take us to the airfield.

> It wasn't strictly origami, but it flew beautifully just by walking along
> with it trailing behind you.

It was probably pretty simple, just that it was very light paper so that it
caught any small breeze. As for details as to its construction, that i
don't have.

It was a wonderful convention,

Peter





From: Joe Wezorek <joew@DYNAVOXSYS.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 14:02
Subject: Re: Golden rectangle and Penrose tiles

>     I would take a SWAG (scientific wild-ass guess) that the G.R. doesn't
> want to collapse easily for some reason that relates to Penrose tiles not
> repeating when tessellated.

I don't know; I think it's simpler than that. Basically, what
I tried to do is this: take a golden rectangle and dissect it into
a bunch of triangles such that all of the triangles have angles
that are multiples of 18 degrees. If I found such a dissection I
was then going to treat the dissection as a crease pattern and try
to collapse it, adding new folds as needed. The problem is you can't
find that dissection. In the case of the golden triangle, its self-
similar properties leads to the sorts of dissections that can be
partitioned into a Penrose tiling. There may be some neato dissection
of the golden rect involving angles other that the magic pentagonal
angles, but besides that I think the golden rectangle is a dead end
origami-wise. If you're interested in harnessing the magic powers of
phi for your folding, you're better off using pentagonal, decagonal or
36-degree rhombic paper.





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <LOKICORP@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 15:19
Subject: NO more dinosaurs!

Message text written by Origami List
>The BBC website has a large amount of info :
www.bbc.co.uk/dinosaurs

Perhaps someone more informed than me can tell me a little more about its
inaccuracies!<

        You're welcome to check out the messages of the past few weeks on
this at the Dinosaur ListServer Archives at:

http://www.cmnh.org/fun/dinosaur-archive/index.html

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From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 15:48
Subject: Question: which origami books do you recommend to get a 9 years old

Here is the puzzle: a 9 years old boy, from the US. He likes football...too
much ( if there exists such a thing as a "too much" when it comes to
football  :-). By football, I mean soccer..which is
football..though...well...let's leave that aside :-)

The thing is that I would like to see if is is possible to make this sporty
little guy interested in origami. What books do you recommend under the
circumnstances ? something catchy....I don't know...

And the book must have the folding instructions in english, of course..and
be simple enought that an adult be able to help the boy.

Well, suggestions are wholeheartedly welcome.

Ariel/

PS: Viva Maradona !!!





From: Leigh Halford <Leigh451@AOL.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 15:54
Subject: Kites (again)

Seems to be a little interest in the kite.

It is very simple and is based on a design that I was taught years ago when I
was a poor nipper and my only toys were bits of old wrapping paper and
cotton! It was taught to me by my dad and was based on an old Gypsy toy
(Absolutely the truth even tho' it sounds like a fairy story!!). This from
the same man who taught me how to make a Reed raft, catch eels and the like!
I tweaked it when I was teaching a science lesson at school. The kids had to
make a kite and I gave them various patterns of simple kites. The ones who
chose the paper kite had various ideas on how to improve it. One of them was
a way of giving it lateral stiffness in gusty winds. The original steerable
parachutes by Rogallo in the early 50s solved this by many shroud lines. This
then evolved into the handglider as we know it but stiffened with a central
pole in compression with tensioned wires- very elegant design (before
teaching I was a design engineer). The paper kite could not be stiffened this
way as bridle lengths are critical so I attempted to stiffen using the
natural characteristics of the paper and it is trickier to get working, but
when it does it flies really well. Oops gone on a bit. The diagram is on my
page at
http://hometown.aol.com/origami451/index.html





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 07 Oct 1999 18:40
Subject: Third Tanteidan book order & JOAS membership sent

Dear All,

I have sent out to Mr. Yamaguchi of Origami House Gallery the third request
which includes the following names of people who have ordered JOAS membership
and/or origami books (Tanteidan #4, #5 and Yamaguchi's latest book, "Joyful
Life with Origami"):   (in no specific order)

Jane Rosemarin
Garrett Alley
Evi Binzinger
David Walker
David Whitbeck
Michael Weinstein
Vicky Mihara Avery
James M. Sakoda
Lorenzo Lucioni

Your book and membership will be handled by Mr. Yamaguchi on a timely basis.
It seems that most people are receiving their orders within 3-4 weeks.  Not
bad, considering the books are being sent from Tokyo!  Well done, Mr.
Yamaguchi!!!

Sincerely,

June Sakamoto





From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 19:32
Subject: Re: Orchid translation

>From: Jakob Axelsson <kem97jan@STUDENT2.LU.SE>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Orchid translation
>Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:40:35 +0200
>
>Im trying to fold the Orchid by Patrick Gonzalez that I found on the net. I
>have problems with it and I blame it on that I cant read the language. Can
>someone help me?
>Thanks/
>Jakob

Could you tell me where these diagrams are found.

Thanks
Collin Weber

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From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 19:49
Subject: Australian animals In Origami

>From: Dave Stephenson <EruditusD@AOL.COM>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Origami books (kinda long)
>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:33:50 EDT
>

>The Koala, this model can cling onto fingers or monitors and for a subject
>that's so popular it seldom seems to have found it's way into many origami
>books to date... Maybe it's about time for a M&L animals downunder
>edition...

I totally agree that they should make an Australian origami book.  I've
already made a whole slough of animals from down under so I can make a book
of my own some day.  I've created a koala, walaby, bilby, numbat, tasmanian
devil(quite good in my opinion), crocodile, dugong, paraket, and a few
others.  Got any ideas for more.  Maybe I'll be able to make the book before
they do.  Not likely since I've never done a book before and haven't
diagrammed half of my models yet.  If they did make the book I wish I could
make a few contributions or something and not let all my great creations go
to waste.

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From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 20:00
Subject: Re: Origami books

>From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Origami books
>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:46:04 -0700
>
> >
> >I saw this message and I have to ask you where you can find Tanteidan
> >convention books.  I'm always looking for new and complex books and I've
> >seen some of the tanteidan models and they look really great but I don't
> >know where to find them.
> >
> >Thanks for your help,
> >Collin Weber
> >
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>Some of them are in Sasuga and other stores and you can order them from JOA
>(I think!).  You could see if you could order from Sasuga since they have
>them (I actually saw them there so it's a safe bet).
>
>David
>

Which tanteidan annual would you suggest?  I'm looking for the most complex
models with good looking results.

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From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 20:30
Subject: Re: Origami books

I saw one with Kawahata's lobster among many fiendish models that I'd put
up high.  I don't remember if it was number two or three.  There should be
people on the list that have them all and would reccomend a book.  I liked
the photos of that three headed dragon and Hojyo's Maitreya which I hope is
in the book that has the model on the cover!  Here Collin is a good page
with the picture of the model http://web.singnet.com.sg/~tkteik/gl22.htm
way to go Teik the models are impressive I can't wait to see the new stuff
you've folded!

So good questions to the freakish folders who have all the tanteidan
convention books and have spared the paperfolding fingers to type out a
reply:

1. favorite book?  favorite model?
2. which book had Kawahata's lobster?
3. was it the same book that had the godzilla and/or yoda and/or the Fuse shell?
4. is it an african or european swallow?
5. what bad allusion did I just make?
6. what is your favorite color?
7. what's the fourier transform of a gaussian?
8. what is the meaning of life?

David





From: Ben Turner <bent@ENRICH.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 20:32
Subject: Re: Origami books!

Anine,

I have been looking at a lot of origami books lately, but I think I remember
     seeing strawberries on a cover of a book like you described.  I will be
     here in Japan for only about a week longer, but if I see it I will get the
     title for you.

-Ben

>>> Anine Cleve <anine20@USA.NET> 8:02:39 99/10/06 >>>
Hi everyone!

I have another question for you!
Some years back I was in a store in Denmark and they had this amazing Japanese
book, but since it was the last copy left it wasn't for sale :( I've never
seen the book before nor after, so I thought if I described it maybe some of
you recognise it?

It was totally in Japanese and it was about folding boxes, some pretty amazing
boxes, for example I remember than on the cover one of the boxes shown had
folded strawberries on it. That's all I remember. Anyone recognise it?

I'm also looking for new origami books since no stores here in Halmstad,
Sweden has any. Unfortunately as you all know, if you buy through the internet
you don't have the possibility to look through the books and see if it's
something interesting, so I thought maybe I could write some titles here and
you could say what you think about them?
I like to fold useful stuff.. not animals which just fills up my boxes, but
stuff that you can hang or put places and which looks great/decorative. Boxes,
ornaments, greeting cards, flowers and so on, and I don't want to cut or use
glue. Anyone has the perfect booktitle for me? I've been folding now and then
for 5 years.

Here are the titles:

*Origami Step-By-Step by Robert Harbin
*Origami Magic/Book and Origami Paper by Florence Temko, Sandra Denis
*Essential Origami by Steve Biddle, Megumi Biddle
*Fantastic Folds : Origami Projects by Andrew Stoker, Sasha Williamson
(Contributor), Michael Newton
*Origami Flowers by Sakoda, James Minoru   (I couldn't find any scans of it on
the net.. anyone has one?)
*ABC's of Origami by Claude Sarasas  (I know nothing about this book)
*Origami ABC's by Hideaki Sakata (I know nothing about this book)
*Beautiful Origami by Zubal Ayture-Scheele
*Japanese Origami : Paper Magic (Crafts of the World (New York, N.Y.).)
by Ann Stalcup (I couldn't find any scans nor reviews so again a book I know
nothing about)
*Brilliant Origami; A Collection of Original Design by Brill, David
(No scans of this book either)

Well, I'm not finished listing, but I guess I should stop now. It's getting
overwhelming.
Hope to get some answers :)
Best wishes,
               Anine

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From: Jake Crowley <jakecrow@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 20:42
Subject: Re: Origami books! (With Strawberry box on the cover)

Hi Anine and Ben,

I think the book Anine might be talking about is one by Tomoko Fuse, who
else has so many box books?! :). I have a book by her, with a few boxes on
the front, one of which has folded strawberries on the top. The book is
entirely in Japanese, execpt for a few places like on the cover, it says
"box" with some japanese writing around it. On the back cover of mine it
says the ISBN is : 4-480-87201-9. The front cover has three boxes on it, and
the back cover has 4 boxes on it. I think that is all you would need to know
to figure out which book it is. Hope this helps.

Jake Crowley
jakecrow@hotmail.com

>From: Ben Turner <bent@ENRICH.COM>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Origami books!
>Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:29:29 -0700
>
>Anine,
>
>I have been looking at a lot of origami books lately, but I think I
>remember seeing strawberries on a cover of a book like you described.  I
>will be here in Japan for only about a week longer, but if I see it I will
>get the title for you.
>
>-Ben
>
> >>> Anine Cleve <anine20@USA.NET> 8:02:39 99/10/06 >>>
>Hi everyone!
>
>I have another question for you!
>Some years back I was in a store in Denmark and they had this amazing
>Japanese
>book, but since it was the last copy left it wasn't for sale :( I've never
>seen the book before nor after, so I thought if I described it maybe some
>of
>you recognise it?
>
>It was totally in Japanese and it was about folding boxes, some pretty
>amazing
>boxes, for example I remember than on the cover one of the boxes shown had
>folded strawberries on it. That's all I remember. Anyone recognise it?
>
>I'm also looking for new origami books since no stores here in Halmstad,
>Sweden has any. Unfortunately as you all know, if you buy through the
>internet
>you don't have the possibility to look through the books and see if it's
>something interesting, so I thought maybe I could write some titles here
>and
>you could say what you think about them?
>I like to fold useful stuff.. not animals which just fills up my boxes, but
>stuff that you can hang or put places and which looks great/decorative.
>Boxes,
>ornaments, greeting cards, flowers and so on, and I don't want to cut or
>use
>glue. Anyone has the perfect booktitle for me? I've been folding now and
>then
>for 5 years.
>
>Here are the titles:
>
>*Origami Step-By-Step by Robert Harbin
>*Origami Magic/Book and Origami Paper by Florence Temko, Sandra Denis
>*Essential Origami by Steve Biddle, Megumi Biddle
>*Fantastic Folds : Origami Projects by Andrew Stoker, Sasha Williamson
>(Contributor), Michael Newton
>*Origami Flowers by Sakoda, James Minoru   (I couldn't find any scans of it
>on
>the net.. anyone has one?)
>*ABC's of Origami by Claude Sarasas  (I know nothing about this book)
>*Origami ABC's by Hideaki Sakata (I know nothing about this book)
>*Beautiful Origami by Zubal Ayture-Scheele
>*Japanese Origami : Paper Magic (Crafts of the World (New York, N.Y.).)
>by Ann Stalcup (I couldn't find any scans nor reviews so again a book I
>know
>nothing about)
>*Brilliant Origami; A Collection of Original Design by Brill, David
>(No scans of this book either)
>
>Well, I'm not finished listing, but I guess I should stop now. It's getting
>overwhelming.
>Hope to get some answers :)
>Best wishes,
>                Anine
>
>
>
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From: Meristein@AOL.COM
Date: 07 Oct 1999 20:55
Subject: Re: Third Tanteidan book order & JOAS membership sent

And well done, June! You have helped make it a lot easier to acquire coveted
books from the Tanteidan.

Thanks for doing this.

Merida





From: Jakob Axelsson <kem97jan@STUDENT2.LU.SE>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 21:16
Subject: SV:      Re: Orchid translation

I guess I just downloaded it and then forgot about it. Ive been looking around
     for it without success. All I can find at the moment is a broken link to
     it. But I think it should be there somewhere, it was just a few days ago I
     found it.
/Jakob

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Orchid translation

> >Im trying to fold the Orchid by Patrick Gonzalez that I found on the net
>
> Got a URL for the diagrams?
>
> Scott scram@landmarknet.net
> Littleton, NH USA





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 21:21
Subject: Re: Australian animals In Origami

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, collin weber wrote:

> I totally agree that they should make an Australian origami book.

There is that section in Lang's collation "Paper Animals" which features a
few Australian animals.

There is/was also an Australian animal origami book a number of years back
called "Aussigami", by Saunders and Mackness, which from memory featured
such subjects as the frilled-neck lizard and the slouch hat.

regards
Michael





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 22:04
Subject: Lang models at the recent OUSA convention

I was lucky enough to see some footage of the '99 OUSA convention,
including a display of Lang's insects. The little card displayed mentioned
that the models had been folded by Robert Lang, with hand-made paper by
Michael LaFosse.

My question relates to the folding of these models, and whether they were
wet-folded, or the paper had been laminated to foil? I have only just
started wet-folding with large sheets of canson paper, concentrating on
Fuse masks in particular. The process is a lot easier than I always
thought, but I have already noticed that points are quite hard to maintain
(especially from the canson card).

I guess the question arises from the look of the models I have seen - they
seem to have the smooth look of wet-folding, but the many appendages that
suggest laminated foil.

I would also like some details about the paper used (so I guess I am
directing this to Michael), ie. long-fibre, short fibre, tissue-paper
quality or thicker etc.

Thankyou for your time

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From: Eric Andersen <ema@NETSPACE.ORG>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 22:10
Subject: meaning of life?

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, david whitbeck wrote:

>8. what is the meaning of life?

Origami, of course!

-Eric :-P
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From: Edith Kort <ekort@MCLS.ROCHESTER.LIB.NY.US>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 22:27
Subject: Origami Calendar Sighting

In the past two weeks I have seen the Origami calendar at my local B&N,
Borders, and Target.  If you are looking for it, it is in a box with a
lime-green border.  I had to hunt a little to find it - it was in the
secondary display of daily calendars.  It was list price at B&N and
Borders, and less than $8 at Target.

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From: Edith Kort <ekort@MCLS.ROCHESTER.LIB.NY.US>
Date: 07 Oct 1999 22:30
Subject: In Search of Diagrams for Citibank $ Bunny

One of our club members is interested in obtaining diagrams for the
Citibank Bunny made from $.  He suspects it may be made from 2 - $.  Can
anyone help?

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From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 00:33
Subject: (NO) Diagram format (Re: my origami creations)

I know there is no easy solution for this and it is also printer driver
dependent. If picture is big the print out would be cut off.

David Whitbeck suggested using other graphic program to scale it. It is fine
for some web pages having
graph and instruction in the same picture. Or you have to print them
separately.

Someone suggested using print setup to scale under browser. I believe it is
still printer driver and browser dependent. At least I don't see this option
in my IE 4.0 and HP Deskjet 600 printer. But using Apple LaserWriter II
driver solves this scaling issue and gives postscript output (ps format). If
you are an Internet Explorer for windows user you may install IE Power Toys,
which give you the ability to zoom/scale indiviual embedded image in the
same page. Cutoff problem can be taken care of. For those who are interested
IE Power Toys can be downloaded from Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/ie/ie40/powertoys/main.htm for IE4 or
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/ie/WebAccess/IE5Tools.asp for IE5.

I am not able to discuss other platforms/browsers because of my limited
knowledge scope.

Happy printing and folding!

Sy Chen

-----Original Message-----
From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 00:33:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Diagram format (Re: my origami creations)

>>I have a question about printing the diagrams in these different formats.
If
>>the diagrams are larger than the screen meaning you have to scroll left or
>>right, how can I print a complete diagram.  Right now they get cut off.
>>
>>Pat
>
>Open it with a paint program or a graphics converter or adobe, etc. and
>rescale it then print it.  Of course using adobe you can have it fit it the
>page and print it in one command.
>
>David





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 04:59
Subject: Re: Question: which origami books do you recommend to get a 9 years

Viva Maradona? Well, I suppose origami will teach him to use his hands (naff
Brit joke)

I rather like the look of Teach yourself Origami by John Montroll. It has
clear computerised instructions, deals with most of the major folding
patterns and has a wide range of models. What separates it from a lot of
origami books for beginners it that it does not contain vast amounts of
three legged pigs, or modlels where stages 10-15 are all cutting and
glueing. Also, it has some 'neat' models at the end. A three legged
bird-base giraffe does not look neat to all your friends. The Pig, deer and
elephant in Montroll's book are all 'neat' models, and represent achievable,
if somewhat difficult models for a beginner who has folded his way through
the book.

Other books that are good for beginners include :
Creative Origami by Kasahara - 100 models including lots of bugs and
dinosaurs

Teach Yourself Origami - Robert Harbin - An old classic, I learnt the basics
from this when I was little. Is perhaps a little dated tho.

Hope this is useful!
I'll be sticking a book review section on my web page soon, which might also
be of help...but dont hold your breath!

Stephen
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From: Sjaak Adriaanse <S.Adriaanse@INTER.NL.NET>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 05:44
Subject: Re: Golden Opportunity

At 10:31 -0400 07-10-1999, Scott Cramer wrote:
> But why is the equally
>wonderful Golden Rectangle so ignored by paperfolders?
...
>
>    I suppose part of the problem is that Golden Rectangles are not as easy
>to make as A4 'silver' rectangles, but that shouldn't stop anyone from
>exploring their use as an origami starting point.

The answer is easy, in Europe that is. Here all stock paper for printers,
copiers. etc. is A4, so you do not have to go to any length to get an A4
sheet.

Greetings,
Sjaak

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From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 06:14
Subject: Sv:      Re: Golden Opportunity

Sjaak Adriaanse wrote::

>    I suppose part of the problem is that Golden Rectangles are not as easy
>to make as A4 'silver' rectangles, but that shouldn't stop anyone from
>exploring their use as an origami starting point.

Dear Sjaak

It is just as easy to make a Golden Rectangle
from an A4 as from an American Letter
same method
Have a look at http://www.thok.dk/amtogold.html

Kind regards from

Thoki Yenn





From: Anine Cleve <anine20@USA.NET>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 07:54
Subject: Re: [Re: Origami books! (With Strawberry box on the cover)]

Hi Ben and Jake!

Someone on this mailinglist (I've read through the recent mails 3 times and
haven't found the specific mail, so sorry that I can't name you) told me that
the "strawberry book" is by Tomoko Fuse and is called Decoration Box! Thoki
told me I could order it in Germany and as you know Ben offered to buy it in
Japan, so anyone know which would be the cheapest way to get it? Ben what
country are you from? Does anyone know if it's translated to English or if it
only exists in Japanese? I know I was given an English title but maybe someone
translated it.

I also wanna say a HUGE thanks to Scott Cramer who helped me via email!! to do
step 1 of Maarten's Windmill! It took us days, hours and confusion, but we did
it :) Now step 2 awaits ;)

Also thanks for all the recommendations I got about which Origami book to buy!
So many send me replies so I have to thank you this way instead of in private
:)
If I had to buy all the books of those you suggested that sounded interesting
I wouldn't be able to sleep at night thinking of how many money I spent ;) But
maybe it's worth it.... Even if I won't be able to get in contact with for
days when I have new origami books and paper in front of me ;)
Thanks to everyone!!!

At last I wonder if the diagram for this Pegasus:
http://web.singnet.com.sg/~tkteik/gl11.htm
is available anywhere on the net?
Did I hear a scream from Scott when he saw the picture of it? Yes I am gonna
turn to you if it's too difficult for me :P

That was all for now.... I think...
Keep folding forever ;)

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From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 08:03
Subject: Re: meaning of life?

Eric Andersen wrote:
>
> On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, david whitbeck wrote:
>
> >8. what is the meaning of life?
>
> Origami, of course!
>

So long as it does not include too much diagramming .... :o(





From: "JacAlArt ." <jacalart@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 08:17
Subject: Tanteidan Convention Book 5 review

If you are looking to add to your Japanese origami book collection, then buy
it. If you are rich and just have to go blow $30, then buy it. If you are
looking for a source of new complex diagrams -- DO NOT buy it. On the
complex side, there's a cool Grim Reaper (no scythe), a Kawahata
Lobster-Man, and 3-headed dragon. On the high-intermediate side, there's a
spotted cow and some kind of gnu or something. That's really about it. The
rest are flowers, boxes, modulars, multi-pieces, more dragons, and other
assorted junk. It's not that the book totally sucks, but $30 for 5 cool
diagrams is a bit pricey. Any reviews on the new Montroll book? Lemme guess
-- there's another elephant.

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From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 09:53
Subject: Re: In Search of Diagrams for Citibank $ Bunny

Edith says:

>One of our club members is interested in obtaining diagrams for the
>Citibank Bunny made from $.

    I think the $ Bunny in question is the one in this year's OUSA Annual
collection, model by Ros Joyce, page 127.

>He suspects it may be made from 2 - $.

     It's a single bill model, but you could use a $2 bill.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net
Littleton, NH USA





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 08 Oct 1999 10:52
Subject: Re: Viva! Origami

My copy of Viva Origami was published by Sanrio, and the copyright notice
reads:
<Copyright> by Jun Maekawa 1983 ; <copyright> by Kunihiko Kasahara 1983.
This means that while Sanrio commercialised the book, Maekawa and Kasahara
retain their legal copyright rights, they didn't sell them to Sanrio.
As to the 50 years Joseph Wu mentioned, I seem to remember a work enters
public domain 50 years after the death of the author unless the latter
renews his copyright (for example by having a new edition published) or
makes some special provision to transfer it to his heirs, estate or
whatever. When a work is public domain, nobody can claim rights any more if
you quote it, satirise it or adapt it into a film or otherwise make use of
it, though you might still have problems if you just plagiated it.
Please note that this is a general rule - I don't know how this is detailed
in the laws of individual countries.

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch
