




From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 09:57
Subject: Re: Sv:      A shameful cry for attention. . .

On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 10:31:43PM +0200, Thoki Yenn wrote:
> (please Sebastian, tell the list your URL for your tesselations)

http://home.t-online.de/home/skirsch/SKirsch-CBP_Tesselation_1.html
http://home.t-online.de/home/skirsch/SKirsch-CBP_Tesselation_2.html
http://home.t-online.de/home/skirsch/SKirsch-CBP_Tesselation_3.html
http://home.t-online.de/home/skirsch/SKirsch-CBP_Tesselation_4.html

No diagrams, pictures only.

--
Yours, Sebastian <skirsch@t-online.de>

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From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 11:08
Subject: BOS orders

Is the BOS supplies order page a proper secure site for sending credit card
details or is it better to just post them?

--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 11:18
Subject: Origami Song

Hi All:

I wrote Origami lyrics to another popular song, hehehe. I'm
sure you all know the melody to "My Favorite Things" from
the movie "The Sound of Music". Please sing along....

Dolphins and elephants folded from money,
Roses that bloom from a piece of red paper,
Modular units made into a box...
These are a few of my favorite things.

When I'm stuck on
step 94
of a Lang insect.

I simply fold one of my favorite things,
And then I don't feel so bad.

Packaged up kami and mulberry paper,
Beautiful washi that glitters and glistens,
My order of books that just came in the mail...
These are a few of my favorite things.

When my paper
tore away on
a tricky sink fold.

I simply buy one of my favorite things,
And then I don't feel so bad.

Too Funny!!! Please continue the song with a verse of YOUR
favorite things.

Thanks for singing along,
Kathy  <*))))><





From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 11:31
Subject: NO Storing large papers.

Best places? Under the bed and under the sofa, between large flat corrugated
cadboard sheets from used boxes. Best from Florence.





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 12:05
Subject: Re: Origami Song

Kathy requests:

>Please continue the song with a verse of YOUR
>favorite things.

Modular units to make Fuses boxes
Wet-folded marvels that knock off your sockses
Tyrannosauruses with toes and teeth
'Repeat on left side and twice underneath...'

When I've folded
'Til I'm worn out
And I need some rest

I still go and open up
Yet one more book...
My friends tell me I'm obsessed.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net
Littleton, NH USA





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 12:15
Subject: Re: PROP The Origami detective (part 04)

At 12:37 99/10/01 +0200, you wrote:
>When sending the message I had uploaded the GIF file.
>But it got the name Prop04.gif and the URL said ...../prop04.gif
>The WWW server is on a UNIX system and so is case sensitive ...

I thought it was something like that.

>After sending and receiving the message I checked the URL.
>It did not work, so I corrected that. Took me some minutes in total.

Thank you! I've since seen it and solved the puzzle. 8)

>So Joseph, you were online when I sent the message? You must have been
>fast ...

Yes, I guess I was. Travelling at the speed of light! 8)

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From: Rob Hudson <FashFold@AOL.COM>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 12:46
Subject: Re: Origami Song

Uh oh-- can anyone guess which song is going to appear?  Think "Battle Hymn.."





From: Casida Mark <casida@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 13:23
Subject: Box pleat

Would someone please explain to me what exactly is a box
pleat?  I have the feeling that it is something,

  -> elementary
  -> very common
  -> capable of generating many many models (cars, trains,
     wagons, perhaps a rabbit or a bull ...)

But what it is, I am not exactly sure.  Can anyone help?

                       happy folding,
                            Mark
--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|                  Mark.Casida@umontreal.ca             |





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 14:20
Subject: Re: Box pleat

At 01:23 PM 10/1/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Would someone please explain to me what exactly is a box
>pleat?  I have the feeling that it is something,

Go to my webpage (http://marckrsh.home.pipeline.com) and look in the
articles section.

Marc





From: Peter Mielke <peter@DOE.UTORONTO.CA>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 15:07
Subject: Re: Jack-o-lantern

> Orazio Puglisi reminded me where the model was diagrammed. In BOS 192
> (Oct 1998), there is a great Jack O'Lantern by Edwin Steele on page 34...

Edwin sadly, passed away a few months ago. He is missed at the Toronto
group.





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 16:06
Subject: Origami-L Song (was Re: Origami Song)

At 12:44 99/10/01 -0400, Rob Hudson wrote:
>Uh oh-- can anyone guess which song is going to appear?  Think "Battle
>Hymn.."

No! Not that one! How about a different take on it? A song about this
mailing list, perhaps? I'll take a stab at that:

(Note: This will probably offend some people, but it's relevant to recent
discussion, so here goes. If you are easily offended, you'd best stop
reading now. Thanks to those people who previewed this and suggested that it
would be appropriate to send to the list after all.)

----- Start (sarcasm mode on) ----------------------------------

The Battle Hymn of Origami-L
----------------------------

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the Origami-L
Its members like to squabble 'til they think that they're in hell
Now some of them are leaving and it's really just as well
'Cause the flames go marching on!

Chorus:
Glory, glory, you know nothing!
Glory, glory, you're so left wing!
Glory, glory, we can all sing:
I'm right and you are wrong!

What happened to the days when we could talk of paper folds?
Now we banter about politics and how ev'ryone gets old
Some people carry attitudes that leave me feeling cold
And the flames go marching on!

<Chorus>

Now I have got a right to be as mean as I can be
You can have your own opinion if you'll just agree with me
Tactfulness is overcome by free speech liberty
Let the flames go marching on!

<Chorus>

Patience is a virtue that I do not care to own
I will argue ev'ry little point until it's overblown
I choose to make things personal because up I've never grown
So the flames go marching on!

<Chorus>

----- End (sarcasm mode off) -----------------------------------

Anyone care to come up with more verses?

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From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 16:24
Subject: Re: Music To Fold By

Just in time for World Vegetarian Day, you can enjoy "Spaghetti Rag",
"Dill Pickles", "Pineapple Rag" and "Beer Barrel Polka" at "Music To
Fold By":

http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Orchestra/8654/FoldingCA/

Dorothy





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 01 Oct 1999 18:27
Subject: Sv:      Box pleat

Dear Mark Casida

>Would someone please explain to me what exactly is a box
>pleat?  I have the feeling that it is something,

>But what it is, I am not exactly sure.  Can anyone help?

The expression stems from dressmaking,
in the 40'es womens skirts were often boxpleated

www.ask.com gave me  Excite with this:
1891 French Fan Skirt, This skirt is slim with gentle draping across the front.
The demi-trained back is cut in fan shape and hangs in a large box pleat.

According to Funk & Wagnalls Standard Dictionary
Box Pleat - Material folded twice and in opposite directions,
the edges turned under and meeting,

Random House Dictionary:
A double pleat with the material folded under at each side,
also called Box Plait.

Webster does not have this expression,
but explains a pleat in this way:
pleat - a fkat double fold in cloth or other material, of uniform width
and pressed or stitched in place.

in Origami: visualize a square folded in four parts,
then the the left and the right crease folded in on the middle fold,.
so a crossed boxpleat is the same proces repeated at 90 degrees.
and the folds ordered so that a square comes on top in the middle
as you can see at www.thok.dk/cbphp.html

David Lister can perhaps give you more about how the term
aplies to Origami.

Words are not as easy to fold into an easy understandable mental picture.
I will send you and e-mail with a simple drawing as attachment.

Hope this helps.
                ________
_ _ _ _ _ \                /_________

Greetings Thoki Yenn





From: P Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 02 Oct 1999 01:04
Subject: New model (so far)

Hi Folks!

It's the first of the month and I just haven't had time to do much
folding I have been too busy with massive computer failures to do much,
sorry this months model isn't any better but it's the best I could do in
a day (diagramming that is) if some one else has a model more suited to
month they would like to see put up please e-mail it to me personally
not to the group!  (read Joseph's song) If windows 98 keeps this pile of
parts running next month might be better!

Have fun!!

Perry
--
"Each time he shifted gears he did it as if the Moment of Truth
had arrived in a bullfight"
H. Allen Smith "The Pig in the Barber Shop"

http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/           <--Website w/ diagrams!
Icq 23622644





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 02 Oct 1999 04:45
Subject: Re: PROP the Origami detective

I did find the file - by deleting the html code before the URL in Maarten's
     message, the URL then turned active...

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: 02 Oct 1999 07:33
Subject: Fringe origami

Just  a note to let those of you who like your origami a bit wierd know that
Origami Heaven now contains a new section about the conceptual origami of
Oliver Zachary. Diagram heavy, of course.

To find out what conceptual origami is all about go to
www.mizushobai.freeserve.co.uk/ and follow the link under What's New.

Dave Mitchell





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 02 Oct 1999 08:11
Subject: Re: BOS orders

Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK> sez

>Is the BOS supplies order page a proper secure site for sending credit card
>details or is it better to just post them?

It's more secure in that your credit card number is transmitted
separately from the other details, but not in the technical sense.

We've had no problems so far...

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: 02 Oct 1999 12:40
Subject: Fujimoto bibliography

Hi all !

I need urgent help for a bibliographic info (to be given in the next CDO
newsletter issue). Does anybody know who was the publisher of Shuzo
Fujimoto's "Twist Origami" (that looking like a handwritten notebook, with
double pages in Japanese style) ? I can only understand that it was
published on Jan. 20th 1978, but the publisher's reference is in Japanese:
I suspect that it was privately issued by Fujimoto himself, but am not sure.

Please reply privately, thanks !
Roberto

=======================
PROF. ROBERTO MORASSI
VIA PALESTRO, 11
51100 PISTOIA
ITALY
=======================
E-mail:  morassi@zen.it
tel & fax: (+)39-0573-20436





From: Maarten van Gelder <VGelder@KVI.nl>
Date: 02 Oct 1999 16:13
Subject: New models in archives

New models/versions are available in the archives:

   $ bill Butterfly   by Joe Gilardi
   Enterprise         by Marc Kirschenbaum  (diagrams text by Perry
Bailey)

--
Maarten van Gelder    KVI - Groningen, Netherlands    vgelder@kvi.nl





From: Spider Barbour <spider@ULSTER.NET>
Date: 02 Oct 1999 17:33
Subject: Scare tactics

-- [ From: Spider Barbour * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Dear folders --
        Four new models have crept onto my web page, from regions beyond the
     ken of
man.  Please, steel your nerves, sip a glass of spirits, and visit:

http://www.ulster.net/~spider/origami.htm

        Please allow them to introduce themselves: Uncle Skullsy, Aunt Skullsy,
dancing skeletons and the ghostly reaper.  They appear last on the list of
diagrams, just above the photo of the real Uncle Skullsy.
        No photos of the models yet, but (assuming their images show up in the
pictures) I'll add them as soon as they come back from the lab.
     Nervously
yours,    Anita F. Barbour





From: Marianne Levin <mariannele@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 13:21
Subject:

Hello evreybody!
I like the cranes whitch was the first origami I learnd to  make 5 years
ago. Since then I made more than 2000, but only in  settings with 100 at a
time.  Thought I  had my own idea whit 1 in a different color but now I
learnt it is an old habit. I hang my 100 cranes in i green from a tree and
present people whith them. But now I would like to see how people use 1000
cranes. Can anyone give me any URL where I can see fotos.
Marianne

______________________________________________________
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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 13:25
Subject: Re: Cranes (Senbazuru)

At 10:20 99/10/04 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello evreybody!
>I like the cranes ... But now I would like to see how people use 1000
>cranes. Can anyone give me any URL where I can see fotos.

Here's a picture I took in Japan:

<http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Gallery/Japan/crane.html>
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From: Allen Parry <parry@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 13:56
Subject: Re: Viva origami

Andrew,

Congradulations!  I hope you enjoy the book.  It is a good.  I have a
copy.  I put in a minor bid for purposes of adding it to our group's
library.  What I enjoy the most is the crease patterns for the Maekawa
demon at two different stages of development.

Enjoy,

Allen Parry
parry@eskimo.com





From: John Hancock <jwhancock34@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 14:29
Subject: Re: Cranes (Senbazuru)

Hi Joseph,

I liked that picture. It's neat that the temple
caretakers don't just tear down the old garlands when
they get a little weather-beaten. It reminded me of a
question I have been meaning to ask regarding such
garlands.

Do you have any details about how cranes are usually
strung? Are they sewn together like popcorn, or is the
string knotted? Which parts of the cranes are attached
to which parts of neighboring cranes? That sort of
detail has always been lacking in sources on strung
cranes.

As a corollary question, when strung cranes are
shipped, what is the best approach to packaging? Are
they shipped with the wings folded, leaving it to the
recipient to unfold them, or is there an efficient way
to pack them with wings unfolded, so that the
recipient can just pull them out of the box in a
ready-to-display state? (Damn, that was a long
sentence...better cut back on the coffee...)

Thanks in advance,

John

--- Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA> wrote:
> At 10:20 99/10/04 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hello evreybody!
> >I like the cranes ... But now I would like to see
> how people use 1000
> >cranes. Can anyone give me any URL where I can see
> fotos.
>
> Here's a picture I took in Japan:
>
>
<http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Gallery/Japan/crane.html>
>
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> t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e:
> josephwu@ultranet.ca
> w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca
>

=====

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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 14:46
Subject: Re: Cranes (Senbazuru)

At 11:21 99/10/04 -0700, John Hancock wrote:
>I liked that picture. It's neat that the temple
>caretakers don't just tear down the old garlands when
>they get a little weather-beaten. It reminded me of a
>question I have been meaning to ask regarding such
>garlands.

I'm sure that once they get too ratty, they get removed. I don't know how
the Buddhists deal with these things, but Shinto adherents believe that
origami creations (amongst other things) are imbued with a spirit, so they
need to be ritually burned and not just thrown away. I forget what the date
is, but there is an annual (semi-annual?) day set aside for the ritual
burning of origami (and other paper things, I think).

>Do you have any details about how cranes are usually
>strung? Are they sewn together like popcorn, or is the
>string knotted? Which parts of the cranes are attached
>to which parts of neighboring cranes? That sort of
>detail has always been lacking in sources on strung
>cranes.

It's different, depending on what you want the outcome to look like. The
ones in the photo are string together without knots (except one at the very
bottom of the string. The string goes up the hole at the bottom of the crane
and out through the middle of the back (which is the centre of the original
square). The wings are partly spread, but not fully.

>As a corollary question, when strung cranes are
>shipped, what is the best approach to packaging? Are
>they shipped with the wings folded, leaving it to the
>recipient to unfold them, or is there an efficient way
>to pack them with wings unfolded, so that the
>recipient can just pull them out of the box in a
>ready-to-display state? (Damn, that was a long
>sentence...better cut back on the coffee...)

I'd suggest putting them in a large plastic bag, and then placing the bag
into a large box filled with styrofoam peanuts (or your favourite loose
packing material). The wings should be at least partially spread so that the
cranes can be more easily strung, but the amount of spread is up to you
depending on the final visual effect you are trying to achieve since this
particular packing method will allow for fully spread cranes. (How about
that for a long sentence?)

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From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 03 Oct 1999 07:34
Subject: kalmon, the missing llink?

Dear all , I am just a little bit ashamed.
just a little bit

I have just been told about the missing link
Not the one that Darwin was looking for,
but the one to my new presentation of
the Diagram for the DNA-4 molecule
that Darwin did not know anything about.

For greater ease in printing, I have now
put each page on a separate html,
and you can go directly to the diagram.
Page one is on http://www.thok.dk/dna41.html
and from there you can click to page two.
Now it also works again from the Origami Cloud
both from the text and from the picture.

Thanks to Phil for pointing it out to.me.

Greetings from
The Great and still Gloriously unashamed Kalmon of the North.





From: Dribalz@AOL.COM
Date: 03 Oct 1999 09:38
Subject: Viva origami

This is to announce that I was the high bidder for Viva Origami--the book
which was recently offered for auction on ebay.  My high bid was $93, but I
had a proxy bid in which I was prepared to pay up to $101.

I consider this book a real find considering it's excellent condition, and
reputation, and I was prepared to pay top dollar for it.

It was fun bidding against the likes of Rob Hudson, Jennifer Whitlock, Alan
Parry, and Dave Whitbeck, among others.  Thanks for making it fun.

Dr Ibalz
Andrew Hans





From: Lory <lory@NETSIS.IT>
Date: 03 Oct 1999 17:55
Subject: Re: Viva origami

What kind of book is it?
first edition... or a very rare book... or it has the writer's sign?

Thanks,
Lorenzo

Dribalz@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> This is to announce that I was the high bidder for Viva Origami--the book
> which was recently offered for auction on ebay.  My high bid was $93, but I
> had a proxy bid in which I was prepared to pay up to $101.
>
> I consider this book a real find considering it's excellent condition, and
> reputation, and I was prepared to pay top dollar for it.
>
> It was fun bidding against the likes of Rob Hudson, Jennifer Whitlock, Alan
> Parry, and Dave Whitbeck, among others.  Thanks for making it fun.
>
> Dr Ibalz
> Andrew Hans

--
 ----------------------------------------
   Lorenzo Lucioni       lory@netsis.it
   Parma, Italy             ICQ: 397363





From: BTStern <btstern@BUFFNET.NET>
Date: 03 Oct 1999 18:41
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 2 Oct 1999 to 3 Oct 1999 (#1999-25)

Now that we know who the winner of that wonderful Viva Origami book
is...would you be so kind as to scan us a copy of the little devils?  I was
ready to bid on the book just for those diagrams alone...

congratulations on a great auction....it was fun just watching...

Beth
Have a Bob Day
http://www.geocities.com/tayster97/
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/origami.html
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/Renaldo.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
To: Recipients of ORIGAMI digests <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 4:00 PM
Subject: ORIGAMI Digest - 2 Oct 1999 to 3 Oct 1999 (#1999-25)

> There are 4 messages totalling 92 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. New models in archives
>   2. Scare tactics
>   3. kalmon, the missing llink?
>   4. Viva origami
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sat, 2 Oct 1999 22:11:18 +0200
> From:    Maarten van Gelder <VGelder@KVI.NL>
> Subject: New models in archives
>
> New models/versions are available in the archives:
>
>    $ bill Butterfly   by Joe Gilardi
>    Enterprise         by Marc Kirschenbaum  (diagrams text by Perry
> Bailey)
>
> --
> Maarten van Gelder    KVI - Groningen, Netherlands    vgelder@kvi.nl
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sat, 2 Oct 1999 17:31:33 -0500
> From:    Spider Barbour <spider@ULSTER.NET>
> Subject: Scare tactics
>
> -- [ From: Spider Barbour * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
>
> Dear folders --
>         Four new models have crept onto my web page, from regions beyond
the ken of
> man.  Please, steel your nerves, sip a glass of spirits, and visit:
>
> http://www.ulster.net/~spider/origami.htm
>
>         Please allow them to introduce themselves: Uncle Skullsy, Aunt
Skullsy,
> dancing skeletons and the ghostly reaper.  They appear last on the list of
> diagrams, just above the photo of the real Uncle Skullsy.
>         No photos of the models yet, but (assuming their images show up in
the
> pictures) I'll add them as soon as they come back from the lab.
Nervously
> yours,    Anita F. Barbour
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sun, 3 Oct 1999 13:33:12 +0200
> From:    Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
> Subject: kalmon, the missing llink?
>
> Dear all , I am just a little bit ashamed.
> just a little bit
>
> I have just been told about the missing link
> Not the one that Darwin was looking for,
> but the one to my new presentation of=20
> the Diagram for the DNA-4 molecule
> that Darwin did not know anything about.
>
> For greater ease in printing, I have now=20
> put each page on a separate html,
> and you can go directly to the diagram.
> Page one is on http://www.thok.dk/dna41.html
> and from there you can click to page two.
> Now it also works again from the Origami Cloud
> both from the text and from the picture.
>
> Thanks to Phil for pointing it out to.me.
>
> Greetings from=20
> The Great and still Gloriously unashamed Kalmon of the North.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:37:06 EDT
> From:    Dribalz@AOL.COM
> Subject: Viva origami
>
> This is to announce that I was the high bidder for Viva Origami--the book
> which was recently offered for auction on ebay.  My high bid was $93, but
I
> had a proxy bid in which I was prepared to pay up to $101.
>
> I consider this book a real find considering it's excellent condition, and
> reputation, and I was prepared to pay top dollar for it.
>
> It was fun bidding against the likes of Rob Hudson, Jennifer Whitlock,
Alan
> Parry, and Dave Whitbeck, among others.  Thanks for making it fun.
>
> Dr Ibalz
> Andrew Hans
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of ORIGAMI Digest - 2 Oct 1999 to 3 Oct 1999 (#1999-25)





From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 00:47
Subject: Viva origami

If someone paid $93 for viva (which is about a million dollars in poor
Australian money)........how much is my set of four worth......purely
speculative of course!!  When we got burgled a few years ago, they took
little cos our TV was so old and my jewellery cheap.......if only they had
looked at my books

As for my original, signed DOKUHON 1........

Clare

Who still folds for fun, but must list her origami books better for
insurance purposes........





From: Rob Moes <robmoes@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 01:17
Subject: Re: Viva origami

>This is to announce that I was the high bidder for Viva Origami--the book
>which was recently offered for auction on ebay.  My high bid was $93, but I
>had a proxy bid in which I was prepared to pay up to $101.
>
>I consider this book a real find considering it's excellent condition, and
>reputation, and I was prepared to pay top dollar for it.

>Dr Ibalz
>Andrew Hans

Congratulations on your prize.  I seem to remember spending close to $50
for the book when it first came out...so what you paid doesn't strike me as
being too outrageous.  Japanese hard cover books are just plain expensive
to begin with.

There's quite a legend developing over this book.  There were rumors of it
being reprinted or even translated...and so far it just hasn't happened.
The Jun Maekawa model on the front cover (the demon/devil) caused quite the
sensation because of its complexity.  Of course now we have Kawahata and
others to "bedevil" us with their stunning Japanese models as well.

The resting deer, the frog, the lizard are all showpieces, worthy of any
collection and great choices to make as gifts because only a lucky few in
the West have seen these models.  A few of the designs are clunky...in my
most humble opinion, (does this harken back to the John Montroll thread?)
and I would love to see some newer Maekawa creations for comparison.

Not to mention an English translation somewhere of the design
theory...which looks very interesting.

Happy folding....

Rob





From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 06:33
Subject: SOM3

I have a dream... dream of SOM3 being even better than SOM2, but that
will be hard to achieve.  I leave reporting to Peter and others, who
are either better with writing or less sleepy than me, and fall into
bed within next seconds.

Before going to sleep I need to wave special hellos to Antonieta and
Dino, Sadi and Mette, Lionel, Peter, Pieter and Janneke, Jan, Mette,
Caroline, Alfredo, Vicente, Claudine, Robert, Herman, Ana Maria and
Sonja, Hans and Inga-Lisa, who made the weekend into one of my best
memories.

Also, for amoosement I need to thank Dino, Ariel and Peter!

--
Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

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From: Rob Hudson <FashFold@AOL.COM>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 09:10
Subject: Re: Viva origami

Clare,

Where do you live?

R





From: BTStern <btstern@BUFFNET.NET>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 16:11
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 3 Oct 1999 to 4 Oct 1999 (#1999-26)

So now that we know several people have the little "devil" diagram from
Viva! Origami...will anyone post it so we can have a go at it?

BethHave a Bob Day
http://www.geocities.com/tayster97/
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/origami.html
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/Renaldo.html





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 17:30
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 3 Oct 1999 to 4 Oct 1999 (#1999-26)

Please Beth stop with the whole digest~!!!!!!!$%&$%&$^$*&$&

David





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 18:14
Subject: The Paper's new look

This message is for those who receive the Origami-USA's newsletter, "The
Paper".  Does anyone like the new look?   I like the bigger pictures!  It
helps to see detail with large pictures.  Any comments?

--
 Douglas Zander                |  Watch "FarScape" on the SciFi Channel
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |  Fridays 7:00pm Central
 Shorewood, Wisconsin, USA     |





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 19:06
Subject: Re: The Paper's new look

At 05:13 PM 10/4/99 CDT, you wrote:
>This message is for those who receive the Origami-USA's newsletter, "The
>Paper".  Does anyone like the new look?   I like the bigger pictures!  It
>helps to see detail with large pictures.  Any comments?
>
>--
> Douglas Zander                |  Watch "FarScape" on the SciFi Channel
> dzander@solaria.sol.net       |  Fridays 7:00pm Central
> Shorewood, Wisconsin, USA     |
>
>
Douglas,

When did it come out?  Unless the mail is really slow in Ct, I should
have gotten one too.

Ria





From: BTStern <btstern@BUFFNET.NET>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 19:21
Subject: Scott Cramer

dear Scott...just informed me that I was resending the complete digest when
I respond to a posting...nice ofhim to tell me...

my face is flaming red...and I promise not to do it again...

Beth
Have a Bob Day
http://www.geocities.com/tayster97/
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/origami.html
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/Renaldo.html





From: ROCKYGROD@AOL.COM
Date: 04 Oct 1999 19:25
Subject: Re: The Paper's new look

Hi,

I'm here in NM and I just received my PAPER today.  So I am sure everyone
will receive it before long.  I also paid extra in my dues to have it shipped
not bulk mail.(I think?)

I loved the new look.  Lot of interesting articles, too.

Patty Grodner





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 20:16
Subject: Re: Scott Cramer

Well, at least your contribution was better than an 'I agree' at the end
of the digest ....

BTStern wrote:
>
> dear Scott...just informed me that I was resending the complete digest when
> I respond to a posting...nice ofhim to tell me...
>
> my face is flaming red...and I promise not to do it again...
>
> Beth
> Have a Bob Day
> http://www.geocities.com/tayster97/
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/origami.html
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/Renaldo.html





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 20:32
Subject: [NO] Re: The Paper's new look

>This message is for those who receive the Origami-USA's newsletter, "The
>Paper".  Does anyone like the new look?   I like the bigger pictures!  It
>helps to see detail with large pictures.  Any comments?
>
>--
> Douglas Zander                |  Watch "FarScape" on the SciFi Channel
> dzander@solaria.sol.net       |  Fridays 7:00pm Central
> Shorewood, Wisconsin, USA     |

What's FarScape?

David





From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 22:24
Subject: My origami creations

Iv'e made some digrams of some of my original models of different animals.
I would like to get them on the internet so other peole can see the things
that I've worked so hard to create.  I think they're pretty good but I guess
my opinion is a little bit bias so I would like the opinion of some other
folders.  The diagrams are a little sketchy but I think you will be able to
figure it out.  I would appreciate a reply from anyone interested in seeing
them or with a place on a website to display them.  They are all
intermediate models I think.  My creations include a few kinds of dogs, a
hummingbird, an albatross, a martien, lion, rhino, vulture, prarie chincken,
frog on a lilypad, nuthatch, barnswallow, and about 20 others models.
Anyone interested in seeing them can e-mail me back.  I'm not exactly sure
how to send the diagrams that I've drawn on my paint program so any help on
this would also be appreciated.

Thanks,
Collin Weber

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From: Carol Martinson <carolm47@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 23:16
Subject: October at Origami Minnesota

This Sunday's meeting, October 10, will have a Halloween theme.  Beginners will
     be treated to making origami Jack O'Lanterns.  Intermediate and advanced
     folders will have a choice of a couple different cat models.

The meeting will begin at 2 pm at the Lexington Branch Library, 1080 University
     Avenue in St. Paul, just off the Lexington exit of I-94.

Contact me for moe information.

Carol Martinson
carolm47@yahoo.com





From: Wayne Ko <wko@ISTAR.CA>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 23:33
Subject: New Page with Star Wars Models

After several years of thinking about it and severval months of putting
little bits of time towards it, I've finally got an origami page up and
running. Also thanks to Joseph Wu for taking most of the pictures for me.
You'll find my collection of Star Wars models, some personal thoughts as a
beginning designer as well as my paper miniatures.  The address is

http://home.iSTAR.ca/~wko/index.html

Any comments are welcomed.

Wayne





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <LOKICORP@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: 04 Oct 1999 23:46
Subject: Name for Kite Shape

Hi All -

        A paleontological question has recently come up for which I thought
I might find the answer in the origami community!  8-O  The question is:
what is the name of the shape of a traditional kite?  This is, in origamic
terms, the Kite Base:

    *
  *   *
*       *
 *     *
  *   *
   * *
    *

Yes, it's a rhomboid and a quadrilateral, but I'm looking for something
more specific, if it exists.  Since there are so many mathematicians and
geometers in origami, I'm hoping someone has an answer...?  We're loathe to
just say "kite shaped" since there are so many different kinds of kites
(box kites, deltoid kites, etc.) which don't have the "traditional kite"
shape (technically, I'm not even certain that this shape _is_ the
"traditional" shape!)  Any help would be greatly appreciated!  Thanks in
advance...

 _,_
 ____/_\,) .. _
--____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
 /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 899-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2866
 102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: Kelly Dunn <Kellydunn@AOL.COM>
Date: 05 Oct 1999 02:59
Subject: Harry Houdini's Butterflies flying

Hi, I'm having fun reading Harry Houdini's book, Paper Magic, 1922. He's got
this neat trick explained where you take two long blond hairs and magicians
wax, and at the end of the hairs attach, with the wax, tissue, origami,
butterflies, or torn butterflies, light butterflies anyway. Then, you attach
the other end of the hair to your head with the wax or tie to a bead that you
conceal in your hand, or mouth.
Here's the idea, you have a light fan blowing and the butterflies appear to
float above you, or where you direct them. I guess it takes practice to learn
to control them. (It's dramatic to float them into fire.) The long blond hair
is very difficult for anyone to detect.
Cool, huh. I'm thinking on a light windy day this might be lots of fun, or is
this taking origami too far? I think it might work with tiny butterflies
folded out of tissue paper.
Best wishes, Kelly





From: Kam singh <ksl24@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 05 Oct 1999 05:16
Subject: Magazine article using Origami-Free Advertising Offered In Return

Hi there,
            My name is Kam, I am 27 yrs old and currently working on a
project in creating a magazine article using Origami techniques.

Can anybody help, or offer some advice on how to produce a 5 - 6 page
magazine article in a new and innovative way using the art of origami.

The magazine will article will be on a subject about the "Paranormal" and
have various topics ranging from Ghosts to Aliens and UFO's.

In return for any good advice given, I will add your name to the production
list of the magazine and or have a section for you to advertise in.

I am new to origami and so any tips, advice or even urls of useful sites
would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You For Your Time

Kam

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From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 05 Oct 1999 06:06
Subject: Sv:      Name for Kite Shape

>>The question is: what is the name of the shape of a traditional kite?

    *
  *   *
*       *  The name of the shape is DELTOID
 *     *
  *   *          according to my Funk and Wagnals dictionary it is:
   * *
    *
         1) Anat. a triangular muscle of the shoulder and upper arm.
         2) Geom: a quadrilateral formed by two unequal triangles set base to
     base.

I love to browse dictionaries, and I always look at  all the pictures
and only yesterday I saw this shape and got its name.

Tres humble serviteur

The Great and Glorious Kalmon of the North.
http://www.thok.dk





From: Tommy <twstevens@HOME.COM>
Date: 05 Oct 1999 06:59
Subject: Re: Name for Kite Shape

"Jerry D. Harris" wrote:
>
> Hi All -
>
>         A paleontological question has recently come up for which I thought
> I might find the answer in the origami community!  8-O  The question is:
> what is the name of the shape of a traditional kite?  This is, in origamic
> terms, the Kite Base:
>
>     *
>   *   *
> *       *
>  *     *
>   *   *
>    * *
>     *

Because I was curious I did a little research on the word kite. Here is
what I found:

Eric's Treasure Troves of Math
http://www.treasure-troves.com/math/Kite.html
defines kite as "A planar convex quadrilateral consisting of two
adjacent sides of length a and the other two sides of length b."

The Ask Dr. Math FAQ
http://forum.swarthmore.edu/dr.math/faq/formulas/faq.quad.html
defines kite as "A quadrilateral with two pairs of distinct adjacent
sides equal in length."

The Hypertext Webster's Dictionary
http://work.ucsd.edu:5141/cgi-bin/http_webster?kite
gives this definition of kite
5. (Geom) A quadrilateral, one of whose diagonals is an axis of
symmetry.

The Earliest Known Uses of Some of the Words of Mathematics web page
http://members.aol.com/jeff570/k.html
has this to say about kite: "KITE appears as a geometric term in the
1893 Funk and Wagnalls Standard Dictionary."

So it seems that the proper term for the above shape is, well, kite.

> Yes, it's a rhomboid and a quadrilateral, but I'm looking for something
> more specific, if it exists.

Technically it is not a Rhomboid. A Rhomboid is an oblique-angled
parallelogram with adjacent sides of unequal length.

> Since there are so many mathematicians and
> geometers in origami, I'm hoping someone has an answer...?  We're loathe to
> just say "kite shaped" since there are so many different kinds of kites
> (box kites, deltoid kites, etc.) which don't have the "traditional kite"
> shape (technically, I'm not even certain that this shape _is_ the
> "traditional" shape!)  Any help would be greatly appreciated!  Thanks in
> advance...

I would guess that a mathematician used the word kite to describe the
shape because it happened to be a popular shape for kites at the
time/place. I have no basis for this -- only guessing. Perhaps someone
with access to the Oxford English Dictionary could find out a little bit
more.

Obligatory origami content...
Any avid kite folders out there? I would love to see a kite with origami
techniques such as tessellations sewn into the fabric (a la Chris
Palmer). In fact this would be a really cool way to display an origami
tessellation. Now where did I put that bolt of ripstop nylon?

Regards,
Tommy





From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Date: 05 Oct 1999 08:01
Subject: Re: a question (which I hope is origami related)

On 30-Sep-99, Kenny1414@AOL.COM (Kenny1414@AOL.COM) wrote:

>So for maybe a century, the cheaper paper has been pulp paper,
>made from woodpulp. Newspapers, magazines, paperback books,
>even expensive hardcover books have been printed on pulp paper,
>which is produced by a process that uses sulfuric acid to unstick
>the gummy lignin that holds together the cellulose fibers in wood,
>and which acid seems to be responsible for the Library of Congress
>being filled with books that are disintegrating faster than they can
>microfilm them.

I asked about this specifically at the 2nd Scandinavian Origami
Meeting, and learned that acid hasn't been used to unstick the lignin
for decades now.  The acid was used from the end of 19th century up to
60's or 70's.  Maybe there are still some old factories using acid
processing, but they are in a minority.

I bet Hans Oloffson of Origami Paper OPP AB could give a better answer
on this, so why not ask him directly.  His address can be found at

http://www.origamipaper.com

--
Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

Weyland-Yutani - Building Better Worlds
