




From: "Jose J. Ramos" <josesuzi@DBCONNECT.NET>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 23:55
Subject: Re: Mr. Yamaguchi's & Tanteidan Convention Books For Sale!

Dear June..I am very interested in Mr. Yamaguchi's "Joyful Life with
Origami.  Let me know if I can get one still and I will forward a check to
you for it....Thank You....Jose
-----Original Message-----
From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM <Foldmaster@AOL.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 23:55:59 -0400
Subject: Mr. Yamaguchi's & Tanteidan Convention Books For Sale!

>Dear all,
>
>I spoke to Mr. Yamaguchi who told me that their latest Tanteidan 5th
>Convention books are now available for sale.  This book is 256 pages long
and
>contains clear diagrams for 63 origami models which are mostly intermediate
>to complex level.  Many of these have not been diagrammed or available in
>print before!  Several models are by foreign creators.  The book is printed
>in black and white in Japanese, of course, but the diagrams are clearly
>printed so language differences should not be a problem.  This book should
be
>in every one's origami library if you are interested in the more
challenging
>level of origami!  Cost:  $28.00
>
>Also available (limited quantity) is the Tanteidan 4th Convention Book.
This
>book is 192 pages long and contains clear diagrams for 51 origami models
>which are again, mostly intermediate to complex level.  The contents are
>similar to the Tanteidan's 5th convention book in that many of the models
are
>not available anywhere else.  If you are interested, I suggest that you
place
>your order right away as there are only about twenty copies left!   Cost:
>$22.00
>
>Mr. Yamaguchi's latest origami book, "Joyful Life With Origami", was
>delivered to the Origami House Gallery where I was able to receive a copy
>"hot off the press".  It is probably the best collection of Mr. Yamaguchi's
>origami work -- a full collection of a variety of origami models rated
simple
>to high intermediate.  The book is 200 pages long and contains diagrams
with
>color photographs for 38 origami models -- many of which haven't been
>published before.  Cost:  $19.00
>
>Once again, JOAS membership is available for foreigners at a cost of US
>$40.00 per year for their bi-monthly (six issues/year) publication.  This
>glossy magazine contains beautiful photographs as well and origami diagrams
>for models ranging in difficulty from low intermediate to high complex.
The
>following information is required for your application:  full name, mailing
>address, tel/fax nos., e-mail address, birthdate, sex, occupation and
hobbies.
>
>Please send me an e-mail privately in advance to indicate your preferences
>then mail me a check for the appropriate amount and I will process your
order
>at the end of each month.
>
>Please make all checks payable to me, June Sakamoto and mail to:
>
>June Sakamoto
>9 Merrill Drive
>Mahwah, New Jersey  07430
>
>
>Sincerely yours,
>
>June Sakamoto





From: Greg Foster <fostergr@MISSOURI.EDU>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 00:39
Subject: Re: Arachnophilia

On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Isa Miller wrote:

> Isa wrote:
>
> http://www.abdn.ac.uk/tools/ibmpc/arachno/
>
> If you want to see what others, more qualified than I, say about it, there
> are reviews and download links at tucows (http://www.tucows.com), nonags
> (http://www.nonags.com), and softseek
> (http://softseek.com/Internet/Web_Publishing_Tools/HTML_Editors/Review_4800_
> index.html ).
>
For the record, the Arachnophilia home page itself seems to be at:

http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/

...although the software is available at a number of archives, as Isa
says. The author (Paul Lutus)'s commitment to what he calls "careware"
is worth pondering. His own site also has an Arachnophilia FAQ and a
choice of several versions to download.

Greg





From: P Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 02:11
Subject: Lost address book

Hi folks, I lost the address book when I lost the system and had to
reinstall everything.  Could those of you whom I have had dealings with
please post me personally so I can get you back into the list?

Dave if your out there I didn't lose all the work on the NE proj it was
on a zip disk when all ____ broke loose.

Perry





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 02:23
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM> sez

>Is one of these better than the other?

I think it's a tad pedantic to worry about it - both sound correct to me
& neither give any false implications. IMHO....

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 07:33
Subject: Muji paper.

I've just been looking on the BOS site for paper and they list 'Muji' paper.

Is that anything in particular or is it just normal paper?

--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)





From: DonnaJowal@AOL.COM
Date: 03 Sep 1999 08:34
Subject: Re: Mr. Yamaguchi's & Tanteidan Convention Books For Sale!

Hi June,

I would like to get the 5th Tanteidan book      $28.00
Joyful Life with Origami                               $19.00
JOAS membership                                      $40.00

Total                                                           $87.00

JOAS Information

Donna Walcavage
91 Atlantic Avenue
Brooklyn, NY 11201     USA

Tel.   718/834-0224  Day
Fax.  718/797-0921
E-mail:   DonnaJowal@aol.com
Birthdate:    09-09-46
Sex:  Female
Profession:  Landscape Architecture/Urban Design
Hobbies:  Origami, Volunteer Tour Guide at the American Museum of
               Natural History, and Dogs-founding member of Big Apple
               Whippet Association

If it is ok with you, I will give you the money when I see you on the 18th.

Thank you,

Donna





From: Rob Hudson <FashFold@AOL.COM>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 08:47
Subject: Re: Mr. Yamaguchi's & Tanteidan Convention Books For Sale!

Donna--

We have everything but your credit card number; so if you'd be so kind (and
don't forget the expiration date) :)





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 08:49
Subject: Re: Mr. Yamaguchi's & Tanteidan Convention Books For Sale!

And don't forget to _not_ send it to the list!

--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hudson [mailto:FashFold@AOL.COM]
Sent: 03 September 1999 13:46
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Mr. Yamaguchi's & Tanteidan Convention Books For Sale!

Donna--

We have everything but your credit card number; so if you'd be so kind (and
don't forget the expiration date) :)





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 09:07
Subject: Re: Mr. Yamaguchi's & Tanteidan Convention Books For Sale!

>===== Original Message From Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> =====
>And don't forget to _not_ send it to the list!

Aww... I was looking forward to some early christmas shopping!

Matthias





From: Arlene Anderson <aanderso@BCPL.NET>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 09:16
Subject: Re: fold a day calendar

On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, BTStern wrote:

> How can I get one of these?

I found it at Borders here. They had a great stock of calendars; the
Barnes & Noble did not yet have it-looked like they were just beginning to
display the 2000 calendars-small stock yet.

I was glad to hear about the calendar.This will be a perfect gift for a
family with elementary school children who have been intrigued by a box of
origami "toys" I sent them, and want me to recommend a simple book for the
kids. It starts out simple and as the year progresses seems to get a
little more difficult (low intermediate?) I didn't look at the end of the
year too carefully as I didn't want to crack the spine.

The concept of folding the previous day is great. Of course the problem is
that once folded, the directions are no longer available (unless you
unfold). But still fun. A really great concept.

Arlene





From: Carole Young <youngcj@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 09:57
Subject: Re: fold a day calendar

Barnes and Nobel definitely has them.  Amazon.com may.  BN sold for close to
     $13 when pkg said $17.95.

-----Original Message-----
From:   BTStern [SMTP:btstern@BUFFNET.NET]
Sent:   Thursday, September 02, 1999 4:17 PM
To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        fold a day calendar

How can I get one of these?

Beth
Have a Bob Day
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/origami.html
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/Renaldo.html





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 03 Sep 1999 11:15
Subject: Partial listing of contents of Tanteidan Convention books

Dear all,

Several people have inquired as to the contents of the Tanteidan 4th & 5th
Conventions books.  If you are interested, please e-mail me privately and I
will send you a partial list of the contents.

Also, there has been some confusion as to how to order the books and JOAS
membership.  YES!!!  I am your contact for the book orders and subscription
to JOAS.  I will accept orders from ANYONE, ANYWHERE as long as the money I
receive is in US currency (ie. US personal check, money order, international
postal money order, bank draft, etc.)  I will process everyone's orders at
the end of each month (or earlier if I get enough orders) and send the funds
by ONE international postal order to Mr. Yamaguchi who will process your
orders in Japan.  This will eliminate the outrageous banking fees the
Japanese banks impose on processing overseas checks and money orders.

If you are ordering JOAS membership, you must also send me the following
information:

full name
mailing address
tel/fax nos.
birthdate
sex
occupation
hobbies

All orders and money should be sent to:

June Sakamoto
9 Merrill Drive
Mahwah, New Jersey  07430

e-mail:  foldmaster@aol.com

Sincerely yours,

June





From: DonnaJowal@AOL.COM
Date: 03 Sep 1999 12:19
Subject: Posting Error

Dear Rob, Matthias, and Allan:

I am so-o-o-o grateful for your concern.

To the rest of the list:

Sorry.

Donna





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 13:46
Subject: Re: fold a day calendar

That would be funny if it started with the traditional seal and ended with
Lang's Samurai Helmet Beetle!  Especially if they only have the folding
pattern!  Haha!

David "trippy after too much polymorphisms and link lists" Whitbeck

"Recognition of the limitations, as well as the capabilities, of reason is
far more beneficial than blind trust, which can lead to false ideologies
and even destruction."  --Morris Kline





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 14:17
Subject: Re: Origami Challenges and Requests

Mark Kennedy indited:

> Note: Montroll's first book has a Pegasus from a modified blintzed bird
> base. In my opinion it is still on of the better Pegasus models.

I'm very curious about that remark. Having recently folded Pegasus models from
the Tanteidan newsletter, ORU, and (partly finished) Origami Fantasy, I just
today tried this one (from Origami for the Enthusiast). I know that there are
at least half a dozen more that I haven't tried yet. I've been disappointed so
far that the four I've tried all get very thick through the front of the legs
and torso.

I am curious to know what you (Mark, and anyone else willing to divulge their
views) think about the various Pegasus models, which are nicer, and _why_.

-D'gou the curious





From: Bruce Stephens <bruce@CENDERIS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 14:59
Subject: Re: Muji paper.

Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK> writes:

> I've just been looking on the BOS site for paper and they list 'Muji' paper.
>
> Is that anything in particular or is it just normal paper?

It's paper sold by the Muji chain of shops.  It's thin and cheap---an
excellent generic origami paper, IMHO.





From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 17:35
Subject: Good Pegasus

Doug,

A good origami model is like good art, it is all subjective. Do you prefer
Picasso, Matisse, Rembrant or Grandma Moses? Most are considered good
artist, I like all but one.

I don't mind the thickness of the front legs on Montroll's Pegasus from
Origami for the Enthusiast.

Mostly, I look for form and shape in the finished model that appeals to my
sense of proportions. Also, does it capture the essence of the model - Does
it "read" well? I prefer models that take 10 to 15 minutes.  Neale's dragon
takes about 8 minutes, Montroll's Enthusiast Pegasus about 10-15 minutes,
Crawford's Unicorn about 10 minutes, and Maekawa's demon about 35-40
minutes. If it is going to take longer it really has to appeal to me if I do
it more than a couple of time. If it really good I will memorize the model
as I have done with the listed models. I enjoy making models and different
paper to see the difference in the results. The selection of paper can
influence the model's out come and presentation.

There is a Flapping Pegasus model in Harbin 3 or 4. I found the model a bit
stocky so deduct points there. However since it is an action model, I will
give it extra points. It is from a blintzed bird base and while it has quite
a few steps it is doable for most intermediate folders, more bonus points. I
like the model.

About 15-20 years ago, Marc Overmar's published a  rearing Pegasus from Marc
Cooman. The model is from a 2x1 rectangle with a good finished shape. It
looses points for the 2X1 and also it will not stand on it's own, but must
be mounted to maintain the rearing position. The final form I find pleasing
so I give it a passing grade.

I did not find Montroll's Origami Fantasy Pegasus as pleasing as the
Enthusiast Pegasus.

The Kawahata Pegasus published by the Tantedan's has a ver pleasing final
shape. I think the head is a bit small in relationship to the body. My
biggest objection is that I don't like the spiral pleats that form the mane.
This may because I always find the difficult. I don't know why it is sort of
a blind spot. When I first learned Jeff Beynon's Spring into Action taught
by Jean Jerome Casalonga (the second biggest ego to emerge from Corsica), I
did the precreasing for two models in the time it took the rest of the class
to precrease one sheet. I was still working on my second round of twist
collapses when the rest of the class was finished. There are pictures of me
surround by the rest of class teasing me with their springs.

Time to go home. I hope that this helps.

Mark





From: David Whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 19:29
Subject: Re: Good Pegasus

When you said Montroll's Origami Fantasy did you mean Montroll's
Mythological Creatures and the Chinese Zodiac or Kawahata's Origami
Fantasy?  Crawford's unicorn wasn't inspiring enough to get me to fold it.
What's the unicorn on bladerunner?  I would like to find a unicorn model
that has a nice cone shape and spirals nice to a point, Montroll's unicorn
dissapointed me.  If my feable memory serves me Kawahata's doesn't do that
right?

David





From: Ian McRobbie <Ourldypeac@AOL.COM>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 19:29
Subject: Wizard of Paper

Hello there fellow folders,
   I am looking for an origami web page that I found a long time ago.  I
believe it was called Wizard Of Paper.  The page had a very gothic look to
it.  The only thing the page contained  was pictures of the creator's models.
 The models  that he created included dragons, an alien from the 'Alien'
movies, and some of those giant robots in Japanese cartoons.  If anyone knows
the URL and can tell me I will be most greatful.
                                   Thanks,
                                     Ian McRobbie





From: Carmine Di Chiara <carmine_dichiara@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 20:16
Subject: Re: Origami/Math Books--Suggestions for High School Math Students

Rona,

OK, I'm interested in purchasing the third book, "3D
Geometric Origami: Modular Polyhedra". This is the one
with the one-piece square and triangular Gyroscope
unit, correct?

Where would I send the check?

Thanks,

Carmine

--- Rona Gurkewitz <GURKEWITZ@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU>
wrote:
> Sonia,
>     Yes, I'm still selling signed copies of both
> books. Or if you
> like, we'll sign your copies of our books if you
> send us return
> postage with them.
>     The return postage alone is $2.26 per book
> (Connecticut to
> Los Angeles, Los Angeles to you, book rate.) With
> the books,
> it's $9.26 for the first book, 3D Geometric Origami:
> Modular
> Polyhedra, and $8.26 for the second book, Modular
> Origami Polyhedra.
>     Direct profit from the books is not really my
> motive, but I
> thank you for your consideration. I feel that we
> worked so hard
> on these books, I'd like to see them read. We really
> like the
> folds in the books and hope others will like them
> too.
>
> Rona
>

===
-------
Carmine Di Chiara
carmine_dichiara@yahoo.com
        Beyond each corner new directions lie in wait.
                - Stanislaw Lec
__________________________________________________
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From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 20:39
Subject: Re: Wizard of Paper

Hi Ian!

Perhaps this is what you are looking for:

http://www1.shore.net/~rdl/jittlov/origami.html

Dorothy





From: Ian McRobbie <Ourldypeac@AOL.COM>
Date: 03 Sep 1999 22:35
Subject: Re: Wizard of Paper

Thanks for the help Dorothy. But unfortunately thats not the page I was
seeking.  Thanks again.
                        -Ian





From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 03:25
Subject: Another ThinkQuest

Hello members,

Besides Yurii and Katrin Shumakovs' great site "Travel to Oriland",
I took part in the ThinkQuest Competition with thirteen-year-old
students.

Our site has information about the history of origami, mathematics of
origami, origami in the space, and so on. Though I'm enrolled as a
coach, I did very little things for the site. My students prepared
all of the contents by themselves. I just gave them some advise and
corrected some errors. Congratulations on their effort!

The URL is http://library.advanced.org/28923/
See and send a message for them. (not me nor list!)

 _ _ _ _ _
|         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
|_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
|         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
|_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
 If they keep on risking failure, they're still artists. (S.Jobs)





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 09:19
Subject: Muji paper

Muji paper is a basic white/plain colour type paper. Colours are unsubtle
but more or less what you'd expect of Japanese paper. It's crisp, reasonably
strong and folds well. I use it all the time for exploratory folding, and
for finished work where a traditional origami look is right for the model
concerned.

In UK Muji paper is sold at the Muji shops which are run by Liberty's of
Regent St. There's a shop tucked away around the back of the store if
anyone's in London and interested.

Muji is short for Mujirushi Ryohin (which translates roughly as No brand but
good product) and was originally (and maybe still is) a tradename of the
Seibo Department Store. It was first launched in 1980 to sell cheap food -
usually made of bits like salmon-heads that had previously been thrown away
or used for animal feed products etc. One of the most successful of these
early Muji products was broken mushroom pieces. It is ironic that this line
was so successful that Muji had eventually to resort to buying whole
mushrooms and breaking them up to meet the demand they had created.

Fortunately they sell their origami paper whole.

Dave Mitchell





From: Gillian Wiseman <gilladian@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 10:29
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

I think if I were refering to a finished model, discussing for example how
to eliminate excess fold lines in a finished project, I would use "of" but
if I were discussing the actual process of folding, I would use "for",
indicating the action of folding being an ongoing process. How's that for
hair-splitting?

Gillian

>From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Writing about crease patterns
>Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:56:12 -0400
>
>I bet someone has an opinion about this. If the subtleties
>of English make you yawn, delete now!
>
>Is one of these better than the other?
>
>"crease pattern of a model"
>("Of" meaning "belonging or connected to")
>
>"crease pattern for a model"
>("For" used to indicate equivalence or "for" used to indicate
>the purpose of an activity)
>
>Now that I've looked up the meanings, I'm leaning toward "of"
>but I'm still going to ask the question: does the crease pattern
>belong to a model or is a crease pattern the actions used to
>create a model?
>
>Or is there another, better way to refer to such a thing?
>
>Lisa (origami grammarian)
>Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com

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From: Kimberly Shuck <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 10:37
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

This comment relates to all of this thread, and not just Gillian's comments, but
does anyone get the impression that an affection for precision tends to follow
the practice of origami?

Kim

Gillian Wiseman wrote:
>
> I think if I were refering to a finished model, discussing for example how
> to eliminate excess fold lines in a finished project, I would use "of" but
> if I were discussing the actual process of folding, I would use "for",
> indicating the action of folding being an ongoing process. How's that for
> hair-splitting?
>
> Gillian





From: Faye Goldman <FayeG@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 10:37
Subject: Re: Meetings in Philadelpha PA

Kyle Barger wrote:
> You're really having one on Labor Day?

Yup, we agreed to it last month.
sorry about the delay, I don't check very often on vacation.
Hope to see you on Monday.
Fay





From: Gillian Wiseman <gilladian@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 10:46
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

Kim,
I think they go hand in hand - I know that most of my hobbies are ones that
require exactitude, precision, and repetition. Interesting question - does
anybody else agree?

Gillian

>From: Kimberly Shuck <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns
>Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 07:35:30 -0700
>
>This comment relates to all of this thread, and not just Gillian's
>comments, but
>does anyone get the impression that an affection for precision tends to
>follow
>the practice of origami?
>
>Kim
>
>Gillian Wiseman wrote:
> >
> > I think if I were refering to a finished model, discussing for example
>how
> > to eliminate excess fold lines in a finished project, I would use "of"
>but
> > if I were discussing the actual process of folding, I would use "for",
> > indicating the action of folding being an ongoing process. How's that
>for
> > hair-splitting?
> >
> > Gillian

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From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 14:54
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

>This comment relates to all of this thread, and not just Gillian's
>comments, but
>does anyone get the impression that an affection for precision tends to follow
>the practice of origami?
>
>Kim
>

If you saw my apartment you'd quickly change your opinion.

Sloppily,
David

"Recognition of the limitations, as well as the capabilities, of reason is
far more beneficial than blind trust, which can lead to false ideologies
and even destruction."  --Morris Kline





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 16:48
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

One can love activities (profession or hobbies) which require exactitude,
precision, and repetition, and yet keep on living in a chaotic
apartment.... at least in my experience! What I still haven't figured out
is whether I love order, structure and precision in some things to
compensate for the chaos in other respects, or whether I need the chaotic
bits to preserve some freedom from too much order and precision!

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 17:06
Subject: origami challenges and requests

I'm looking for some challenges of different and unique origami animals,
preferably birds, the more complicated the better but please keep it
realistic.

Collin

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From: Gillian Wiseman <gilladian@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 17:28
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

Julia,
I must agree! I am absolutely the messiest and most disorganized person in
many aspects - but I have to do many things in a very methodical fashion.
It's an interesting contrast. I do think it is a compensation - one way or
the other.

Gillian

>From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns
>Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 22:41:00 +0200
>
>One can love activities (profession or hobbies) which require exactitude,
>precision, and repetition, and yet keep on living in a chaotic
>apartment.... at least in my experience! What I still haven't figured out
>is whether I love order, structure and precision in some things to
>compensate for the chaos in other respects, or whether I need the chaotic
>bits to preserve some freedom from too much order and precision!
>
>Julia Palffy
>Zug, Switzerland
>jupalffy@bluewin.ch
>
>
><< WINMAIL.DAT >>

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From: Kelly Dunn <Kellydunn@AOL.COM>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 17:52
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

Maybe, it's being so focused on the precision of one thing that in comparison
what isn't focused on seems chaotic.
Kelly

In a message dated 9/4/99 8:48:29 PM, jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH writes:

<< One can love activities (profession or hobbies) which require exactitude,
precision, and repetition, and yet keep on living in a chaotic
apartment.... at least in my experience! What I still haven't figured out
is whether I love order, structure and precision in some things to
compensate for the chaos in other respects, or whether I need the chaotic
bits to preserve some freedom from too much order and precision!

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch >>





From: Carmine Di Chiara <carmine_dichiara@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 19:21
Subject: Star of David clarification

Hello everyone,

There is a Star of David at Jeremy Shafer's exhibit on
the Origami House's web page:

http://www.remus.dti.ne.jp/~origamih/tenji/shefer/davide.JPG

When I ask Origami USA, I get the following record:

Star of David by Jeremy Shafer (High Intermediate,
uses waterbomb base)
1996 by Myer Gotz (ed) page 285
Paper used is SQ

Can anyone help me with where it is published?

Also, I was wondering how this model compares with
Fred Rohm's Star of David ... Does Fred Rohm's model
also have 7 open spaces within it? From what I
understand, his model is made with a dollar bill, and
Jeremy's is made with a square, right?

Thanks,

Carmine
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From: Mike and/or Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 19:38
Subject: Re: Star of David clarification

Carmine,

Jeremy's Star of David is in the ORigami USA Annual Collection 1996.  It is
from a square and has 7 open spaces.  I don't recall how Fred Rohm's model
looks to compare them.

Janet Hamilton

> Star of David by Jeremy Shafer (High Intermediate,
> uses waterbomb base)
> 1996 by Myer Gotz (ed) page 285
> Paper used is SQ
>
> Can anyone help me with where it is published?
>
> Also, I was wondering how this model compares with
> Fred Rohm's Star of David ... Does Fred Rohm's model
> also have 7 open spaces within it? From what I
> understand, his model is made with a dollar bill, and
> Jeremy's is made with a square, right?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carmine
> ===
> -------
> Carmine Di Chiara
> carmine_dichiara@yahoo.com
>         Beyond each corner new directions lie in wait.
>                 - Stanislaw Lec
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com





From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 20:42
Subject:

How does a person wqrite an origami book and get it published.  Has any one
done it or at least know how If so please contact me and let me know

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From: Linda Moses <LMoses9256@AOL.COM>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 21:59
Subject: Cowboy/western theme

I need to know if there are any books out there for cowboy hats/boots etc.  I
would like to use as decorations for a party.
Thank you
Linda Moses
LMoses9256@aol.com





From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 23:02
Subject: Re: Star of David clarification

 Photo of Fred Rohm's Star of David can also be found in
http://www.wgn.net/~nienhuis/classics.html
Have fun!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike and/or Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@concentric.net>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 23:02:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Star of David clarification

>Carmine,
>
>Jeremy's Star of David is in the ORigami USA Annual Collection 1996.  It is
>from a square and has 7 open spaces.  I don't recall how Fred Rohm's model
>looks to compare them.
>
>Janet Hamilton
>
>> Star of David by Jeremy Shafer (High Intermediate,
>> uses waterbomb base)
>> 1996 by Myer Gotz (ed) page 285
>> Paper used is SQ
>>
>> Can anyone help me with where it is published?
>>
>> Also, I was wondering how this model compares with
>> Fred Rohm's Star of David ... Does Fred Rohm's model
>> also have 7 open spaces within it? From what I
>> understand, his model is made with a dollar bill, and
>> Jeremy's is made with a square, right?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Carmine
>> ===
>> -------
>> Carmine Di Chiara
>> carmine_dichiara@yahoo.com
>>         Beyond each corner new directions lie in wait.
>>                 - Stanislaw Lec
>> __________________________________________________
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com





From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Date: 05 Sep 1999 00:09
Subject: How to write an origami book

Collin Weber wrote:

> How does a person wqrite an origami book and get it published.  Has
> any one done it or at least know how If so please contact me and
> let me know

Here's how, in 3 easy steps.

1a. Design a bunch of interesting origami models. Draw good-quality diagrams
for them.

OR

1b. Find a bunch of good models by other people (e.g., by searching through
obscure origmi publications, going to conventions, querying fellow origami
enthusiasts); get permission from the designers, and draw good-quality
diagrams for them.

Note that whichever route you take, you still have to draw good-quality
diagrams. That's the part that takes all the work. Coming up with the designs
is the easy part.

It also helps to have some unifying theme: action models, insects, money
folds, or fantasy creatures, for example, are all good ones -- but of course,
those are already taken.

2. Pitch your book to publishers. Browse Borders or Barnes and Noble to learn
which publishers publish origami and craft books; also to learn which good
ideas have already been done. Buy a copy of Writer's Market to learn what to
send (and what NOT to send) in the way of a query or proposal. Then send your
queries and/or proposals.

3. Unless you already have a relationship with a publisher, prepare for a lot
of rejections and don't let them get you down. Be aware that there are two
kinds of "publishers" out there -- publishers and packagers. The former pay
royalties (5-10%); the latter typically buy books for a flat fee. Many
origami authors have settled for the flat fee (I've done both); just
understand what you're getting into so you won't get icky surprises later.
READ THE CONTRACT. For example, with some packagers, you may someday see your
own work appear several times in subsequent books for which you will receive
nothing (particularly if the packager is Quarto/Quintet).

A few more tips. The most important is, publishers who publish origami books
do not care anything about origami; what they care about is selling books.
They also do not, as a rule, care whether your book appeals to origami
people, because there are only a few thousand of those beings; what they want
is a book that will appeal to EVERYONE. You will have a much better chance of
success if you can explain to your editor why people who have never even
thought about origami are going to be buying your book as if it were filled
with Charizard cards. You will explain this in your proposal, succintly,
because your editor gets about 1000 pages a week of unsolicited dross and
she/he will take about 10 seconds to decide whether your proposal goes into
the oblivion of the slush pile or onward for further consideration.

Next tip is, the publisher gets to pick the title, the cover, and the design
of the book (the way the pages are laid out). Although they will frequently
take the author's recommendations, they don't have to (which explains how
"The Complete Book of Origami" got saddled with its less-than-accurate
title). In particular, don't bother laying out the whole book before you send
it off, because the publisher may want it laid out completely differently
from your personal vision.

But if they DO want you to lay out the book, they should pay you for that
above and beyond any royalties. (Tip #3 is, publishers don't always volunteer
to pay authors for these little extras -- you have to be sure to ask for
them.)

Tip #4 is, use the standard origami diagramming conventions: Yoshizawa/
Harbin/ Randlett notation. Montroll and, dare I say, Lang, are also good
examples to follow, if you look at their later, better, stuff. If you've got
some artistic skill, Brill is one of the best to emulate. At any rate, if you
go off and invent your own notation, prepare to be slammed in the worldwide
origami press.

Tip #5: Have proof-folders go over your diagrams. It's good to have several.
You will find no shortage of volunteers on this-here mailing list.

I could go on forever but I'll stop here, except to mention that in the last
few months there was a thread on this list of "things we'd like to see in
origami books." You wouldn't go wrong by looking them up in the archives as
well.

Good luck,

Robert J. Lang





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 00:49
Subject: Re: How to write an origami book

What a goldmine of advice for would-be origami writers!

So what magic did you have to do to convince the publisher of your
'Origami Insects & Their Kin' that that book will appeal to everyone?

Where can I buy a copy of Writer's Market?





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 02:25
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

Kelly Dunn wrote:
Maybe, it's being so focused on the precision of one thing that in
comparison
what isn't focused on seems chaotic.

I think you've got a point there; but I should replace your "seems chaotic"
by "grows chaotic". Choas definitely grows when you don't pay attention to
it!

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Carol Martinson <carolm47@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 04:11
Subject: NO: Writer's Market

Writer' Market is published annually, usually coming out at the end of the year
     with the following year's date on it.  The one dated for the year 2000
     should be coming out this November or Decembe,r and at the latest this
     coming January.

When it first comes out, it should be available at all the major bookstore
     chains.  Smaller independent bookstores can order it fairly quickly for
     you.

Writer's Market should also be available in most public library systems, if not
     at all their branches.  Often it will be reference, meaning you have to
     sit in the library to use it.  Many libraries also buy circulating copies
     you can check out, but the cu

Writer's Market is only one of a number of guides and directories for authors.
     Each one takes a different slant and supplies different information geared
     to  different audiences, markets, and purposes.  Overall, Writer's Market
     is the most useful one for

Carol Martinson





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 05:22
Subject: Origami sighting & music

I've just been browsing the Library of Congress Online Catalog - Keyword
Origami.
There were 251 titles, most of them origami books, of course; but there
were also some titles which sounded more literary (some also seemed pretty
irrelevant...) and some music.
One of them is the soundtrack of a film by Clive Barker called Lord of
Illusions - there's a song called Origami Man (1995)
Then there some printed music by Hans-Jurgen von Bose:
Origami: zwei Episoden fur Klavier zu vier Handen (Die Papierhexe - Im
Papierdschungel)
(i.e.: two episodes for four-hand piano (The Paper Witch - In the Paper
Jungle)(1991)
A pop recording by Fay Lovsky, ca. 1983, published by Idiot Records [sic!],
also called Origami.
All three of these authors and works are totally unknown to me. Does anyone
know anything more about them?

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 09:29
Subject: Re: SMTP error message

>The recipient , "James_Sakoda@broqwn.edu" is not acceptable to your SMTP
>server,  the message is not sendalbe until "James_Sakoda@brown.edu" is
>changed.
>
     Not too long ago Brown University changed its email system from using
MacSlip to using ppp.  I acquired the needed software and was able to
continue to use Eudora 3 on my Mac.  Then all of a sudden I begain
receiving the above message on outgoing mail, even thoujh I was able to
receive messages from everyone.  I called Brown's help desk about four
times, each time getting a different suggestion for correctiong the
situation, none of which worked.  I asked what SMTP was without getting a
satisfactory response.  Then my son, Bill, who is a programmer vissited
over the weekend, and immediately started asking me what kind of input I
had made for the system to work.  He checked the settings for Eudora and
found that there was no entry for SMTP server  and put in "SMTP.brown.edu",
which corrected the difficulty.  Why the email system worked for a short
time without this change to Eudora will remain a mystery, I guess.  If you
receive this message you'll know that I'll be able to respond.  James M.
Sakoda





From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 11:01
Subject: Origami

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From: collin weber <coljwebwhs@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 11:07
Subject: Origami Inspirations

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From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 12:42
Subject: Visiting NY & Dayton

Hi, all:

No, that's not me visiting!

Leong Cheng Chit, an origami friend of mine in Singapore, will be in New
York from 7-10 Sep on route to visit his daughter who works for AT & T
in Dayton. He expects to be in the US for about three weeks.

Cheng Chit (that's his first name) hopes to visit the OUSA office while
he is in New York, and take in whatever origami activity that is
available in both New York and Dayton.

Although Cheng Chit has only about 7 months of exposure to origami, he
has already created some rather impressive models, including a pretty
good bust of a German Shepherd.

Would appreciate any information on origami activities in the areas that
Cheng Chit will be visiting. He is a well-entrenched lurker on this
list, and will continue to stay in touch with me.

Thanks.





From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:53
Subject: Re: How to write an origami book

D'gou wrote:

>>>>
If I may exercise impertinent curiosity... Since Dover doesn't pay royalties,
do they ever tell the book's owner/author how many copies have been selling?
Somehow I doubt that there is even one origami book that sells tens of
thousands of copies....
<<<<

You are correct that Dover doesn't tell the book's owner/author how many
copies a book sells. However, there are ways of finding out such information
from non-royalty publishers (the royalty guys, of course, send you a
statement every 6 months). For example, they sometimes will tell you (1) how
big their press runs are and (2) when they do another press run and/or when
the first run has sold out. Also, of course, John Montroll knows exactly how
many copies of his books are in print because John is the publisher (Antroll
Publishing) and Dover simply buys finished books from John and re-sells them.

At any rate, I can assure you that there are indeed several origami books out
there that have sold in the multiple tens of thousands of copies.

David Whitbeck wrote:

> What is the all time bestselling [origami book] and how many copies
> were sold?

Since the methods I described are at best indirect and are certainly not
complete, unfortunately there's no way to answer this. However, amazon.com
lists the sales ranking for each book they sell. I don't have the fortitude
to check each of the 351 titles they list for keyword "origami," (hint, hint:
anyone care to do so and report back to the list?) but I can report that _The
Complete Book of Origami_ is currently number 6,102, so maybe that title
isn't so bad after all.

Robert J. Lang





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 06 Sep 1999 13:51
Subject: Re: Origami inspirations

I've been folding for a long time, and have created a number of models, but
certainly not hundreds. What usually happens with me is that I have an
idea, would like to fold a particular model, but I rarely see straight away
how to start. I may think and ponder and puzzle, but eventually I put the
idea away at the back of my mind somewhere, and leave it to incubate on its
own. I may pick it up and dust it once in a while. After a long time
(sometimes years!) I find myself thinking about it once again, and suddenly
a penny drops, and I see how I can do it - and then I just have to grab a
piece of paper and do it. And sometimes I have to fiddle around with it
until it really is just right.
Or else it just happens - I am fiddling with a model I already know, and
suddenly, unexpectedly,  I see a new possibility in it and follow it up,
like the judoka I made this week-end.

If I judge by Peter Engel's chapter on the psychology of invention (in:
Origami from Alligator to Zen), I'm not the only one who proceeds in this
way, and I doubt it can be measured with a watch and charted on a
productivity schedule (even if it could - the idea makes my hackles rise!).
I for one enjoy the serendipity element in inventing origami - never
knowing when the idea will suddenly pop out.

While I know that there really are a few people who really are gifted with
prodigious creativity, my first reaction is to question such claims. I
should like to ask how different all those 'hundreds of folds' really are
from each other. Are they really hundreds of unrelated original models, or
are they dozens of variations on a few original ideas? I guess it would be
relatively easy to take two bird bases, for example, and churn out a
hundred different animals by making variations on this basic combination.
Or a hundred different tile patterns from the windmill base. Or a hundred
different tatos, if that's what you want to try for.

For myself, I've decided a good while ago that I want to fold for fun and
not for productivity. A lot of my models are variations on a basic idea, so
I feel prouder when I see that I have created one really original model
than when I have folded my twentieth variation.

I hope the really very creative people on the list will excuse my doubts.

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 06 Sep 1999 13:51
Subject: Re: Ordering origami books

I tend to buy a lot of books, mostly favourite authors or subjects which
are seldom among the ten bestsellers of the week. Even in the large
bookstore where I usually order my books, the choice of Origami books is
extremely limited. My solution is to look up available titles in 'Books in
Print' in the reference room of some major library, and jot down full
informations for those which interest me. Then I go to the bookstore with
my bit of paper and give my order. This simplifies the bookseller's job,
and avoids me being told off "I don't believe we can get that". (I did once
get an answer like that (the book was NO) - but unfortunately for the shop
assistant, the title was in the publisher's latest catalogue and the
collection was on the shelves behind the counter, just behind the
assistant's back... when I insisted, he was rather put out to find the
somewhat old-fashioned title I had requested!)
So I don't have any problem ordering Dover books - in fact I did so
recently, and all I have to do now is to wait for that letter telling me I
can go and pick up my books.

And I too would be very curious to know what the sales figures for origami
books are, and which is the best-seller of them all...

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 06 Sep 1999 14:04
Subject: Re: How to write an origami book

Rjlang@AOL.COM sez

>So even though they may sell tens of thousands of copies of some books,
>you'll never see another penny after the original check.

This has been true of all the books I've writ and 90% of Paul Jackson's
as well. It's not a profession to make you rich.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Bill Hirsh <bhirsh@AUSTIN.RR.COM>
Date: 06 Sep 1999 14:16
Subject: origami emulator

hi my name is Bill Hirsh i am 13 years old and i might make some software that
     let you
emulate the actions of paper folding before you mees up on your paper makeing
     your own
models its just a idea

Bill Hirsh

Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 06 Sep 1999 14:18
Subject: sales figures

Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM> sez

>Somehow I doubt that there is even one origami book that sells tens of
>thousands of copies....

Think again! My first airplanes book, (flat fee, naturally) sold 40,000
in Germany alone. Since first release in 1991, it's been reprinted 4
times in England, most recently last month! Add to this Australia,
Holland & America & we must be looking at over 100,000 copies.

I point this out in response to the question, not to boast - I'd have
thought some of the Harbins must be running towards the millions by now?

all the best,

Nick Robinson

personal email          nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage                www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk





From: Daniel Philip Scher <dps207@IS8.NYU.EDU>
Date: 06 Sep 1999 14:22
Subject: Tanteidan convention pics

Hi everyone,

If you take a look at

http://origami.gr.jp/Etc/conv99Mizuno/origami_index.htm

you'll find links to many pictures of the model display area from what I
believe was the Tanteidan's 5th convention.





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 06 Sep 1999 14:26
Subject: Re: sales figures

>Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM> sez
>
>>Somehow I doubt that there is even one origami book that sells tens of
>>thousands of copies....
>
>Think again! My first airplanes book, (flat fee, naturally) sold 40,000
>in Germany alone. Since first release in 1991, it's been reprinted 4
>times in England, most recently last month! Add to this Australia,
>Holland & America & we must be looking at over 100,000 copies.
>
>I point this out in response to the question, not to boast - I'd have
>thought some of the Harbins must be running towards the millions by now?
>
>all the best,
>
>Nick Robinson
>
>personal email          nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
>homepage                www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk

I thought you just said that no author is rich, but were you rolling in
money as you typed that in your computer?  Or maybe you were typing that
and saying honey could you through stack of hundred dollar bills on the
fire it's getting kind of chilly, even if it is summer out there.

David

"Recognition of the limitations, as well as the capabilities, of reason is
far more beneficial than blind trust, which can lead to false ideologies
and even destruction."  --Morris Kline





From: Bill Hirsh <bhirsh@AUSTIN.RR.COM>
Date: 06 Sep 1999 14:48
Subject: re re :origami emulatior

i program when i was 8 thats when i start i havent program any thing when i
     become 9 so ill
have to relearn this time ill learn assembley and python and perl and euphoia
     and eiffel i call
this year the year of learning programming everything lol

PS:there is a origami emulator i hear but we all make clone and remakes of
     everything to
make it better then before

Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com





From: Bob Stack <Noobob@AOL.COM>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 15:12
Subject: Re: Montroll/OUSA Annuals

Re John Montroll no longer sending models to the OUSA annual collection it
is, I think, a belief on his part that he doesn't need to submit models
because he sells well on his own.  This is, of course, his right.  I believe
that he is mistaken.  I got turned onto his models by seeing them in the
Annual Collection.  The result is that I now own many of his books.
                                         Bob Stack





From: Leigh Halford <Leigh451@AOL.COM>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 15:29
Subject: crucifix

Has anybody made  Christ on a Cross from a 2x1 rectangle, and using a double
elias base? If anybody has I won't bother diagramming it, if not I will!!!!

Leigh451@aol.com
http://hometown.aol.com/origami451/index.html





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 15:35
Subject: Re: Montroll/OUSA Annuals

>Re John Montroll no longer sending models to the OUSA annual collection it
>is, I think, a belief on his part that he doesn't need to submit models
>because he sells well on his own.  This is, of course, his right.  I believe
>that he is mistaken.  I got turned onto his models by seeing them in the
>Annual Collection.  The result is that I now own many of his books.
>                                         Bob Stack

Yeah but I haven't heard of OUSA until I joined this list and I have nearly
all his books!  There are alot of people like me out there.  A couple of
guys I knew in the dorms took up origami and bought Origami for the
Conneseur and decided that Montroll had to be the best folder and bought
his North American Animals book (they're opinion, not mine.) Montroll is
the author that seems to be the easiest to find in a bookstore.  I bet that
most of the people who buy his books haven't even heard of OUSA.  He cranks
out so many books I don't see it as a shame if he doesn't publish any
models in convention books, because can anyone on this list honestly tell
me that they have folded every model in all of his books and need more?
It's not that painful waiting for Montroll's next book.  Well that's just
my two cents.

David

"Recognition of the limitations, as well as the capabilities, of reason is
far more beneficial than blind trust, which can lead to false ideologies
and even destruction."  --Morris Kline





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 15:43
Subject: NO:    Re: Writing about crease patterns

>hobbies are ones that
>require exactitude, precision, and repetition. Interesting question - does
>anybody else agree?

Do piano tuning, furniture making, and jigsaw puzzles meet the criteria?

Scott scram@landmarknet.net
Littleton, NH USA





From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 15:45
Subject: Re: Origami Challenge/ Telephone

I should leave it to Kawamura. I believe the ring like print on the bill is
used as turning dial in this design. Quite a clever idea. Good luck!

Sy Chen

-----Original Message-----
From: Torsten Drees <torsten.drees@T-ONLINE.DE>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 15:45:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami Challenge/ Telephone

>Hi Sy,
>Hi Dorothy,
>
>Perhaps, you can describe the dollar bill telephone model a little. My
>problem is, that i have no idea how i can fold it. If you could give my
>some hints, i will be able to create a new one ..... , i hope.
>
>THANKS
>
>torsten
>
>
>Dorothy Engleman wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sy!
>>
>> The dollar bill telephone that you described in Folding California was
>> designed by Kenny Kawamura.  The telephone and the receiver are each
>> folded from a dollar bill.  Unfortunately, Kenny has not diagrammed this
>> wonderful model.
>>
>> If someone is looking for a novel challenge, why not try to design a
>> telephone!
>>
>> Dorothy





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 17:22
Subject: origami is everywhere!

Yesterday I was out looking for Origami for the Enthusiast by John Montroll
(as if anybody didn't know the author) and I went into Borders to the
information desk, and what do I see on their computer but origami!  The
person I asked for Montroll's book asked me if Origami Insects (by Lang, as
if anybody didn't know) was a good book because she was thinking of folding
origami, someone else had folded the stuff on the computer.  Sorry Mr.
Lang, I just hurt your sells, I told her it's too hard for a beginner.  So
then I went off to another bookstore and asked the cashier about Montroll's
book and guess what she said: she is beginning to fold origami and just
bought Folding the Universe by Engel, how funny in one afternoon to find
three people folding origami.  Well gee wilikers what was the probability
of that happening?

David

"Recognition of the limitations, as well as the capabilities, of reason is
far more beneficial than blind trust, which can lead to false ideologies
and even destruction."  --Morris Kline





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 05 Sep 1999 17:27
Subject: Lang's murex and microwave origami

Thanks to whoever it was that suggested wetting and nuking models after
done to keep spreading and other bad stuff from happening.  I tried it on
Lang's Murex because I didn't want those little cool stuff from uncurling.
I did it too long though and it started burning!  Brownie points to the
person who can guess where it started burning.  Extra brownie points who
can figure out this terrible crime against origami:

what about controlling the burning of a model to make mottles of black and
brown form on the paper, you could stripe a zebra, add mottles to a shell,
and all sorts of things.  Does anyone have any thoughts on how to do this?

David

ps happy folding to all!!

"Recognition of the limitations, as well as the capabilities, of reason is
far more beneficial than blind trust, which can lead to false ideologies
and even destruction."  --Morris Kline
