




From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 06:19
Subject: Re: Blintzed Bird Base

>In a message dated 8/30/1999 9:50:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>Carlos Alberto Furuti writes:
>
>> Pegasus is a natural theme for that base since its main appendages match
>>  the number of points. See models by Eduardo Clemente (Papiroflexia) and
>>  my favorite, by Gabriel Alvarez (Ansill's Mythical Beings/Origami
>Monsters).
>>
>...
>
>Please forgive  me for adding my two cents here.
>
>I seem to remember seeing a published "Flying Pegasus", maybe in one of
>Robert Harbin's books, maybe from a Blintzed Bird Base. Does anyone else
>remember that? (I apologize for being too lazy to try to find this in the
>model index.)
>
>I mutated a Robert Neale's Dragon into a Pegasus from a bird base, once.
>'Pulled' on the legs, to lengthen and narrow them (rabbit ears, sort of),
>Tucked most of the tail into the open back, and swiped the finishing of the
>tail from Patricia Crawford's Unicorn (see Robert Harbin's "Magic of
>Origami",
>I think, or was it "Secrets of ...", came out around 1975, and promptly went
>out of print before I could get another copy, I was so bummed, and then I

Patricia Crawford's Unicorn is in Origami: Step-by-Step which is currently
in print, in fact her unicorn is on the cover of the book!  I also have
seen free diagrams on the net but forgot where.  Most of the models in that
Harbin book are by Crawford.  I can't believe those evil collapses she uses
in everything!  Has anyone folded that birdbath one and can tell me if that
collapse is hard or long or is it natural and quick?  In other words did
you have to add or flip (v->m or m->v)?

David





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 06:36
Subject: Re: Blintzed Bird Base

I just checked _ORIGAMI The Art of Paperfolding_  and
_New Adventures in ORIGAMI_  both by Robert Harbin and I could not find
any mention of a Pegasus or Flying Horse in either book.  But I did find
"Old Kentucky Horse" (no wings) in _New Adventures in ORIGAMI_.

> I seem to remember seeing a published "Flying Pegasus", maybe in one of
> Robert Harbin's books, maybe from a Blintzed Bird Base. Does anyone else
> remember that? (I apologize for being too lazy to try to find this in the
> model index.)
>
> Aloha,
> Kenneth M. Kawamura





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 06:48
Subject: Origami Challenges and Requests

>From:    Monica Weber <veg@EXECPC.COM>
>Hey, I'm new on the origami mailing list and I would like to know what =
>kinds of things I can use this for

Welcome to the list. My guess is you get out of the list pretty much what
you put into it. One thing in particular you can use it for though is to get
help and information - and to make contact with other folders who can give
you a critical appreciation of your work in terms of what other creative
folders out there are doing or have done in the past. Be warned though -
this can be a bit of a culture shock!

>I'm also looking for some origami challenges or request anything that might
inspire me to create some new =
>models.

Model-making origami is only one small corner of the origami world - but
it's a particularly well-explored corner. It might be worth looking into
other areas as well. My website - Origami
Heaven -www.mizushobai.freeserve.co.uk - has a page called Origami Overview
(in the Origami for Enthusiasts menu) which lays out an origami family tree.
Pretty heavy stuff but well worth working through.

In writing this I've assumed that you've been folding and creating largely
in isolation (which is how most of us began. I was folding/creating for over
twenty years before I first joined the British Origami Society - gosh, does
that make me a geezer?) and don't know many other paperfolders or belong to
a paperfolding club. If I've got this wrong just ignore everything after
'welcome to the list'.

All the best

Dave Mitchell





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: 31 Aug 1999 06:56
Subject: (NO) Re: "Knish"

In a message dated 8/30/1999 2:18:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH writes:

> Where on earth does the word 'knish' come from, which language, and what
>  does it mean? I never came across it before!

Amusing. I think that it's in common usage in American English.

Um, I could be wrong about this but as I understand it:

"Knish" is the name for a kind of pastry. The language is Yiddish, at least
that's the American English name for that language, it is an old language
spoken by Eastern European Jews, seems to be a hybrid of Jewish and
German with maybe some Russian or Polish thrown in. It seems to be a
dying language, the young people are not learning it, picking up English
or the re-constructed Hebrew instead.

Because so many Jews fled to the United States of America from Europe
in several waves of immigration, there is rather a lot of Yiddish in the
American popular culture, and I think many "americans" (as U.S. citizens
call themselves) would recognize the word.

Miscellaneous additional information on the related subject of Jewish
language and culture:

The Southern European Jews, who fled the Spanish Inquisition, or were
expelled from Spain later, during Spain's version of "ethnic cleansing"
(not their only example, look up the Basques, and the now dead
Dalmatians, I think) spoke a very different language, called Ladino I think.

There is a third group of Jews, the Falasha, called Black Jews of Ethiopia.
I think their ancestors settled in Ethiopia before the destruction of the
Temple etc., so they did not used to celebrate Hannukah, it not being
part of their cultural heritage.

The three groups of Jews are trying to learn to get along, but the first two
were separated by language and culture, and both were separated from
the third by color.

They get along about as well as the various Christian denominations, sects
and cults do.

I guess it could  be worse. Look at (1) Islam, Hinduism, and Sikhism, or,
(2) Islam and Bahai.

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura





From: Rob Hudson <FashFold@AOL.COM>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 08:22
Subject: Re: Naval Folding

Any chance this book is generally available?





From: "Wu, Sonia" <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 08:35
Subject: Re: Origami/Math Books--Suggestions for High School Math Students

Dear Rona,

Thank you so much for the suggestion!  I do have your first book, but
haven't folded from it yet.

Are you still selling signed copies, by any chance (of both, ideally)?
It seems a shame for the authors not to profit as much as possible.

Sonia Wu

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rona Gurkewitz [SMTP:GURKEWITZ@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU]
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 9:20 PM
> To:   ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject:      Re: Origami/Math Books--Suggestions for High School Math
> Students
>
> Sonia,
>
>    Our book, 3D Geometric Origami:Modular Polyhedra, was reviewed in
> School Science and Math this spring as appropriate for high school
> students. It has also been reviewed in Mathematics Magazine and
> in Mathematical Reviews. Both it, and our newest book, just
> published this spring: Modular Origami Polyhedra:Revised and Enlarged
> Edition emphasize "Systems" of folds, like the Sonobe System.
>    They are bargains at $6.95 and $5.95, or even less when discounted
> on the web.
>    Oh yes, they are used in college math classes for students who want
> to be elementary teachers or math teachers.
>
> Rona





From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@DORSAI.ORG>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 09:06
Subject: Re: (NO) Re: "Knish"

>
>
> "Knish" is the name for a kind of pastry. The language is Yiddish, at least
> that's the American English name for that language, it is an old language
> spoken by Eastern European Jews, seems to be a hybrid of Jewish and
> German with maybe some Russian or Polish thrown in. It seems to be a
> dying language, the young people are not learning it, picking up English
> or the re-constructed Hebrew instead.
>
Yiddish is my first language. My parent spoke no English. I don't know what
determines whether or not a language is dying. I do know that my son speaks
Yiddish. I also know that most ALL orthodox Jewish Yeshivas (schools) have
classes in which the Bible is taught in Yiddish. In addition, ALL ultra
orthodox Jews basically speak ONLY Yiddish and are quite lucky if they learn
more than what can pass for a 5th or 6th grade English level. These Jews all
have large families. When I say large, I mean an average of 6 or 7 children.
Families with 10 children or more or not uncommon. These children all grow
up speaking Yiddish.

So I guess it may depend on whether or not the number of ultra orthodox
Jewish families are increasing or decreasing. As long as they are
increasing, the Yiddish language is certainly not dying.BTW most of the Yiddish
speaking population probably were killed by the Nazis.

--
---
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.org
sheldon_ackerman@fc1.nycenet.edu





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <LOKICORP@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 09:25
Subject: Re: Blintzed Bird Base

Message text written by Origami List
>I can't believe those evil collapses she uses
in everything!  Has anyone folded that birdbath one and can tell me if that
collapse is hard or long or is it natural and quick? <

        I don't think collapses (Crawford's or otherwise) are evil at all
-- I kind of like them!  I think it's fascinating to see how a bunch of
precreases come together all at once to emplace geometries that would
otherwise be much more difficult, if not impossible, to create by more
"standard" methods.

        Anyway, yes, I've folded the "Bird Bath" model twice from kami;
I've yet to wet-fold it.  The collapse isn't super-easy, but it's not
tremendously difficult, either (the bazillion-sided sink at the base is
hard to emplace).  A very interesting model!

 _,_
 ____/_\,) .. _
--____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
 /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 899-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2866
 102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: Kyle Barger <kbarger@NAVPOINT.COM>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 10:19
Subject: Re: Meetings in Philadelpha PA

At 07:22 AM 8/20/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I'm on vacation for the next 2 weeks and want to remind anyone about
>the Philadelphia meetings.
>
>All ages welcome.
>
>
>Greater Philadelphia Paper Folders
>                Meetings        When:   First Monday of the month
>                Time:   6:30-9:00pm
>                September 6, 1999

You're really having one on Labor Day?





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 10:19
Subject: Re: Minor miracle

David Lister posted:

>I understand that it is merely another term for a "Colour Change", itself a
technique which post-dated "The Art of Origami".<

    The minor miracle is simply book-folding one layer in front and one
layer behind on a preliminary, bird, waterbomb or other four flapped base in
order to reveal the two hidden sides- no color change involved.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net
Littleton, NH USA





From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 10:25
Subject: Shuriken

Pun Alert!

Can you fold something other that birds and paper airplanes?

Sure-I-Can.





From: Tina <tinan@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 10:29
Subject: Re: Jerry Harris' Triceratops

Jerry,

   thanks for your help!

   Does anyone have a picture of the triceratops on the net or
otherwise, so I can compare??

   Thanks again,

        Tina





From: Rona Gurkewitz <GURKEWITZ@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 10:44
Subject: Re: Origami/Math Books--Suggestions for High School Math Students

Sonia,
    Yes, I'm still selling signed copies of both books. Or if you
like, we'll sign your copies of our books if you send us return
postage with them.
    The return postage alone is $2.26 per book (Connecticut to
Los Angeles, Los Angeles to you, book rate.) With the books,
it's $9.26 for the first book, 3D Geometric Origami: Modular
Polyhedra, and $8.26 for the second book, Modular Origami Polyhedra.
    Direct profit from the books is not really my motive, but I
thank you for your consideration. I feel that we worked so hard
on these books, I'd like to see them read. We really like the
folds in the books and hope others will like them too.

Rona





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <LOKICORP@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 11:36
Subject: Re: Jerry Harris' Triceratops

Message text written by Origami List
>hanks for your help!

        Anytime!

>   Does anyone have a picture of the triceratops on the net or
otherwise, so I can compare??<

        Not that I've seen, which isn't to say one doesn't exist!  I have
some photos being developed presently, and can scan some for you if you
like later!

 _,_
 ____/_\,) .. _
--____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
 /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 899-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2866
 102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 31 Aug 1999 11:58
Subject: Re: A Word a Day - Origami

Yesterdy, 30th August, deg farrelli quoted from "A Word a Day" the following:

> origami (or-i-GAH-mee) noun
>
>     1. The art or process, originating in Japan, of folding paper into
shapes
>        representing flowers and birds, for example.

My reaction when I see this kind of thing in a dictionary is that the
dictionary is making an unjustified assumption.

It is possible, but only possible that paper folding originated in Japan. But
we have no evidence for this whatsoever. Paperfolding could equally have
originated independently in different parts of the world, especially if we do
not confine the process of folding to paper in its strict definition. It is
very possible that paperfolding originated in China, not Japan. It has even
been argued that paperfolding originated in Europe and spread from there to
the east, although I myself do not think that this is likely.

I write this not because I have anything against Japan - I certainly haven't
- but in the name of historical accuracy. If any clear evidence of the
origain of paperfolding in Japan should ever come to light, I shall be the
first to adopt it.

Certainly, Japan has a distingusihed, fascinating and ancient tradition of
folding paper for religious, ceremonial and recreationl purposes. The word
"origami" is itself a Japanese word which has been adopted throughout the
world. This my be the reason that dictionary after dictionary (I suspect they
copy each other) defines Origami (meaning not Japanese origami, but
paperfolding in general) as the Japanese art of paperfolding.

But, I stress again, there is absolutely NO historical evidence to justify
this assertion. It is unfortunate, but true that reliable historical records
simply do not go back far enough. Even in Japan there is hardly any firm
evidence of paperfolding before 1600 CE.

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





From: =?koi8-r?B?8dLP08zB1yDx08nO08vJyg==?= <protoierey@CHAT.RU>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 12:58
Subject:

Where can I find Chris Palmer's e-mail? I would like to begin corresponding
     with him.

     Thanks,

     Sergey Yasinskiy,

     Russia





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 14:12
Subject: Re: Naval Folding

Dorothy Engleman wrote:
>
> Ahoy there, mateys!
>

I've never been much into navel folding.  Although I've noticed that if
I eat enough knishes it tends to fold it's self.

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: "Wu, Sonia" <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 14:42
Subject: Re: Fold-A-Day Desk Calendar

This weekend at Barnes & Noble Bookstore I saw a fold-a-day desk
calendar!  They seemed pretty simple models--maybe good for introducing
origami to a friend?  I can't say I wanted it for myself, though (I
prefer intermediate models).

Sonia Wu





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 15:01
Subject: Re: Naval Folding

Rob Hudson inquired:

> Any chance this book is generally available?

Yes, but you have to be really off base to find it.

I was hoping those questions would be kept at bay, but ye'll be walkin' the
plank soon, matey!

-D'gou





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 15:38
Subject: Re: Naval Folding

Avast me hearties!

The Bluejackets Manual is available at libraries and online.

Arrrgghh!!!!!   I have to scrub the deck because I mispelled "piqued".

Dorothy





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 15:50
Subject: Re: Naval Folding

Anchors aweigh, me lassies and lads!

I have to walk the plank because I misspelled "misspell".

Dorothy, sink folds were never my favorite!





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 31 Aug 1999 17:11
Subject: A Word a Day.

Origami-L    A Word a Day   Second Attempt.  10 p.m.  31Aug99.

I posted the following erlier today, but it doesn't appear to have been
transmitted. I am repeating it and apologise to anyone who receives it twice.

Remember that what I say two times is more likely to be true.

David L.

                ---------------------------------------

Yesterday, 30th August, deg farrelli quoted from "A Word a Day" the following:

> origami (or-i-GAH-mee) noun
>
>     1. The art or process, originating in Japan, of folding paper into
shapes
>        representing flowers and birds, for example.

My reaction when I see this kind of thing in a dictionary is that the
dictionary is making an unjustified assumption.

It is possible, but only possible that paper folding originated in Japan. But
we have no evidence for this whatsoever. Paperfolding could equally have
originated independently in different parts of the world, especially if we do
not confine the process of folding to paper in its strict definition. It is
very possible that paperfolding originated in China, not Japan. It has even
been argued that paperfolding originated in Europe and spread from there to
the east, although I myself do not think that this is likely.

I write this not because I have anything against Japan - I certainly haven't
- but in the name of historical accuracy. If any clear evidence of the
origain of paperfolding in Japan should ever come to light, I shall be the
first to adopt it.

Certainly, Japan has a distingusihed, fascinating and ancient tradition of
folding paper for religious, ceremonial and recreationl purposes. The word
"origami" is itself a Japanese word which has been adopted throughout the
world. This my be the reason that dictionary after dictionary (I suspect they
copy each other) defines Origami (meaning not Japanese origami, but
paperfolding in general) as the Japanese art of paperfolding.

But, I stress again, there is absolutely NO historical evidence to justify
this assertion. It is unfortunate, but true that reliable historical records
simply do not go back far enough. Even in Japan there is hardly any firm
evidence of paperfolding before 1600 CE.

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





From: Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 17:52
Subject: Contact

Could anyone tell me how I can contact NOA or Tanteidan? I would like to
have some of my designs considered for their publications.

Please e-mail me privately on robin@rglynn.keme.co.uk

Robin Glynn.





From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 19:57
Subject: Re: Fumiaki Kawahata's e-mail

Hello Miguel,

> I would like to obtain the e-mail of Fumiaki Kawahata.

His address is
kawahata@hcmail.dn.toyota.co.jp

 _ _ _ _ _
|         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
|_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
|         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
|_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
 If they keep on risking failure, they're still artists. (S.Jobs)





From: Monica Weber <veg@EXECPC.COM>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 20:26
Subject: Re: Origami Challenges and Requests

-----Original Message-----
From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:26:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami Challenges and Requests

>People complain that most animals have been done and have been done well.
>That's not true there are billions of species out there, and it's very
>possible to improve on them, most of the models I've seen don't appear
>lifelike, or to have much character.  You could spend your entire life just
>designing folds for different beetles, I mean come on here we have a huge
>diverse world to fold from.
>
>Here's a couple interesting things: an inside out fold tree with lots of
>leaves, branches, etc. and how about a 13 headed dragon?
>
>Hey Monica you wanted a challenge, you got it, fold me a 13 headed dragon,
>one paper, no cuts.  Eight teeth for each head, three claws on each foot,
>please eyes, ears, horns.  Plates on the back would be a plus as well.  If
>you do it, I'll be very impressed.
>
>David
>
>ps I'm not being sarcastic, you wanted a challenge I think that would be a
>fun one, and it fills the bill of being a challenge.
>pps soon my load will be lighter and then I'll again take up the pegasus
>using beloved xerox paper even if it takes me three-four hours per model!
>I won't give up!!

Hey David Whitbeck

I appreciate your challenge fo a 13 headed dragon with full feature(teeth,
claws, eyes...), but...I don't think that I can do that, at least not
anytime soon.  How about ANOTHER CHALLENGE.  I would prefer it to be a real
animal so I can base it on a picture.  A bird would be the best but any
other type of animal will do. Pick as complicated of one as possible and be
sure to include details of what it sould have.

Thanks





From: Monica Weber <veg@EXECPC.COM>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 20:35
Subject:

I'm looking for any serious paperfolders in the central wisconsin area.
Right now I'm folding alone and I'm looking for someone to share ideas
inspirations and information please if you live near here or know someone
who lives near here please contact me.

Thanks





From: David Whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 20:41
Subject: Re: Origami Challenges and Requests

How about that cool emperor penguin (I hope that's the name of the
species, the one with those cool golden hairs on their head that stick
out) that would be fun.  Also I love deer model, but it seems that few
models really look like deer, and inside out would be good for that.

David

ps I was teasing about the 13 headed dragon, I'm a bit silly.





From: Rob Hudson <FashFold@AOL.COM>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 22:10
Subject: Re: Naval Folding

Arrr! I shoulda knowed the great D'gou would respond such!  Can ye be sendin'
me the great swashbucklin' doo -rag fold ye wears on yer head?





From: Phil and Amy <sgt.schulz@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 22:12
Subject: Re: "Knish"

Julia Palffy wrote:

>Where on earth does the word 'knish' come from, which language, and what
>does it mean? I never came across it before!

And how do you pronounce 'knish'?

Is the K silent, as in 'knight'?

or is the K pronounced, as in 'knight' a la Monty Python?
                                ("you silly English Ka-niggit!")

Phil

sgt.schulz@worldnet.att.net
 Origami Star Wars at:
http://home.att.net/~sgt.schulz/





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 22:29
Subject: Re: Fold-A-Day Desk Calendar

> This weekend at Barnes & Noble Bookstore I saw a fold-a-day desk
> calendar!  They seemed pretty simple models--maybe good for introducing
> origami to a friend?  I can't say I wanted it for myself, though (I
> prefer intermediate models).
>
> Sonia Wu
>
Yes, but what a wonderful way to spread origami. This is a lovely colorful
boxed calendar for the price of the paper alone if it was origami paper. The
paper, though not kami, holds a crease very well.  Margaret Van Sicklen, the
author brought them to our L.I.F.E. Fold Fest. Several of us from this list
were contributors and others from around the world (Nick Robinson included) and
the majority are traditional models. Margaret's huge effort has 288
models ranging from simple to low intermediate. Also, there are several nice
historical references spaced throughout. Each page can be torn off (heaven
forbid- you would be folding up a page with origami instructions) and folded.
The concept is to use yesterday's date to fold tomorrow's model. The calendar
is perfectly square and consists of 15 lovely colors. The publisher,  Accord
Publishing Lmt. will send the calendar anywhere in the world for 11.95 plus a
shipping charge but perhaps it would benefit Margaret to order directly from
her. Her email is: <2margaret@exite.com>. I haven't checked this out with her
though.

It makes a wonderful holiday gift and kudos to Margaret for this marvelous
concept and production.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 22:38
Subject: Re: "Knish"

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil and Amy <sgt.schulz@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: "Knish"

> Julia Palffy wrote:
>
> >Where on earth does the word 'knish' come from, which language, and what
> >does it mean? I never came across it before!
>
> And how do you pronounce 'knish'?
>
> Is the K silent, as in 'knight'?
>
> or is the K pronounced, as in 'knight' a la Monty Python?
>                                 ("you silly English Ka-niggit!")

As in k-niggit.

All the best - c!!!
everyone accepts "the illusion of reality", but you're crazy if you talk of
"the reality of illusion"
ella-mae@msn.com





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 31 Aug 1999 22:42
Subject: August issue of BOS Magazine!

Congrats to Rick Beech for another great issue.
        EXCEPT that the Dragonfly will be in THREE parts! (or, HORRORS, more
        than three parts!??!?!) Iieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. ;-) ;-) ;-)
        (Actually, Rick was whispering this in NYC, but was afraid to make it
        too loudly known. ;-) ).

Thanks Rick, and Thanks to everyone who permitted their model diagrams to
     appear!

BTW: I applaud your restraint in not having photos of OUSA's convention, and
your reasoning.

Thanks for the peak at Norminton's model, and hints of more to come. His
Daffodil (in Jackson's Classic Origami) is _still_ one of my top 10 models.
Its a treat to have more of his models.

No slight intended to anyone else whose diagrams appear in the issue, they're
all yummy!

-D'gou





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 00:26
Subject: Re: Blintzed Bird Base

The pegasus is in Harbin's Origami #3, basically a flapping bird, with the
extra points used for the four legs.

As an aside, after many years of wondering what No. 3 & 4 of this Origami
series were all about, I was lucky enough to see a copy of each in the
space of a week (very treasured copies, that were difficult to prise from
the owner's hand, even for a quick look! :}) Number 4 caught my eye in
particular, with some stunning models by Max Hulme and Martin Wall (among
many many others). What a delightful publication, and such a shame that it
is no longer available.

Is there any more news on the reprinting of this series as a compendium?

regards,

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Michael Janssen-Gibson                 e-mail: mig@isd.canberra.edu.au
ISD, Library                   phone/voice mail: +61 6 (06)  201 5271
University of Canberra
PO Box 1 Belconnen, ACT 2616





From: Roxy <promousa@WTP.NET>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 02:06
Subject: looking for instructors

I am interested in having an instructor teach fabric origami at the Montana
Summer Fest which has classes in quilting, dollmaking (cloth & polymer
clay) and art workshops. I am always looking for special workshops for
attendees. This years event is June 18-25, 2000. Thanks.

Roxy Carper
Promotions USA





From: PVB <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 02:46
Subject: New model Alert

Hi folks!

Robin Glynn has been kind enough to let me use a great new Star Wars model
as my model of the month for September!!  So drop by and pickup a copy of
C3PO, well the head anyways!!

I may be hard to reach for a bit had a major systems crash had to format
the whole thing and reinstall...everything.

By for now!

Perry





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 04:14
Subject: Re: Fold-A-Day Desk Calendar

Wu, Sonia <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU> sez

>This weekend at Barnes & Noble Bookstore I saw a fold-a-day desk
>calendar!  They seemed pretty simple models

I suspect it's one I (and others) contributed to - let's hope the free
copy comes through before 2001!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 06:05
Subject: Re: Fold-A-Day Desk Calendar

>===== Original Message From Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> =====
>I suspect it's one I (and others) contributed to - let's hope the free
>copy comes through before 2001!

You could be a shining example when your brand new airplane book comes out
;-).

All the best,
Matthias





From: Carol Martinson <carolm47@YAHOO.COM>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 07:25
Subject: Re: Central Wisconsin

Depending upon where you are in Central Wisconsin, Origami Minnesota, which is
     meeting in St. Paul, may be the closest organized group.  There is also an
     organized group in Chicago, and there may also be a group in the Milwaukee
     area, but I do not know if

If someone responds off of this list, you will have a start.  You could also
     find a neutral meeting place and post notices in local libraries or try to
     get a story in a community newspaper. If you are a member of Origami USA,
     you couls set up a meeting an

If you are interested in Origami Minnesota, please contact me.

Carol Martinson
carolm47@yahoo.com
<- Original Text ->

I'm looking for any serious paperfolders in the central wisconsin area.
Right now I'm folding alone and I'm looking for someone to share ideas
inspirations and information please if you live near here or know someone
who lives near here please contact me.

Thanks





From: Andrew Daw <andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 07:52
Subject: Re: Blintzed Bird Base

As a proud owner of Origami 1 through 4 (bought when I was much younger),
I thought this was the best origami could get.  That was until I re-discovered
the hobby a year ago when I found out about the plethora of new books that had
come onto the scene since. My copy of the Origami 1-4 books are getting a bit
thread-bear now and I don't handle them as much anymore in case they start to
fall to pieces. Books 3 and 4 are by far the best of the bunch and contain
some good models (even by today's high standards).

Incidentally the Turtle on the cover of book 4 is also made from a blintzed bird
base and takes a little practice to get the final appearance just right.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Origami Mailing List [mailto:Origami@MIT.Edu]On Behalf Of Michael
> Janssen-Gibson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 5:07 AM
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: Blintzed Bird Base
<SNIP>
> As an aside, after many years of wondering what No. 3 & 4 of this Origami
> series were all about, I was lucky enough to see a copy of each in the
> space of a week (very treasured copies, that were difficult to prise from
> the owner's hand, even for a quick look! :}) Number 4 caught my eye in
> particular, with some stunning models by Max Hulme and Martin Wall (among
> many many others). What a delightful publication, and such a shame that it
> is no longer available.
<SNIP>





From: Terrence Rioux <trioux@WHOI.EDU>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 10:17
Subject: Re: Naval Folding

Rob Hudson <FashFold@AOL.COM>
>Any chance this book (Bluejackets' Manual) is generally available?

The Bluejackets' Manual is published by the U.S. Naval Institute Press,
Annapolis, MD.  Since it is a basic primer for recruits (and a reference
for older salts), it contains chapters on such things as warships,
weapons, seamanship, and other military stuff. The book has been revised
many, many times, from the first edition in 1902 to the latest, the 22nd
edition, in 1998.  The manual I have tucked away in my memorabilia trunk
is the 18th edition, published in 1969. There is a chapter (about 10
pages out of >700) on how to fold one's clothing so that one's entire
'seabag' of issued uniforms could be neatly stowed into the very small
locker which did double duty as one's bunk. This edition had diagrams
and photographs to aid in learning the folding techniques, but earlier
editions I've seen (World War II era) only had written descriptions.
Being a geezer-in-training, I haven't seen the more recent editions, so
I don't know if the chapter still exists. The older Bluejackets' Manual
can be found in antiquarian bookshops and on the web.  For example, I
found a copy of the 18th edition available for about $20.00 by searching
Bibliofind on the web:

http://www.bibliofind.com/

The 22nd edition is available for $29.95. The Naval Institute Press has
a website:

http://www.nip.org/

I hope this has been helpful.

Terry Rioux





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 11:50
Subject: Re: August issue of BOS Magazine!

Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM> sez

>Thanks for the peak at Norminton's model, and hints of more to come. His
>Daffodil (in Jackson's Classic Origami) is _still_ one of my top 10 models.
>Its a treat to have more of his models.

the two new booklets of Ted's superb work will available soon from BOS
supplies. I see Ted most months at Manchester meetings, so I'll pass on
your kind words...

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Tina <tinan@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 12:45
Subject: Re: Jerry Harris' Triceratops

> >   Does anyone have a picture of the triceratops on the net or
> otherwise, so I can compare??<
>
>         Not that I've seen, which isn't to say one doesn't exist!  I have
> some photos being developed presently, and can scan some for you if you
> like later!

   Yeah, I'd really like that!!!

   Thanks a lot,

        Tina





From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 16:42
Subject: Harbin 3 & 4

I agree that Harbin 3 & 4 are the best of the lot. Volumes 1 & 2 have been
republished under other names. I was luck enough to get my copies from
Lillian. I arrived at her place shortly after a small stack had
materialised. I have seen the books 3 & 4 in Hebrew and believe that they
are still available in Hebrew. The only problem with this is that the pages
are reversed so the snake trail of diagrams is out of synic.

Lillian had told me that initially Harbin's wife did not like him doing
origami. She felt that he should concentrate on doing his magic as that
supported the family. As a result, Harbin wrote his early books back stage
between sets on a portable lap top desk. This lack of continuity and limited
work area resulted in numerous mistakes. After she saw the money from the
first books, his wife relented.

I hope that this helps.

Mark Kennedy





From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 17:11
Subject: Origami Challenges and Requests

The one model that I would like to see is a Gryphon. The classic pose that I
have seen for gryphons is  seated  with a lions bottom, eagles wings and
head; claws and open beak would be a plus. I do not care as much for the
gryphons that are standing on all four feet.

Note: Montroll's first book has a Pegasus from a modified blintzed bird
base. In my opinion it is still on of the better Pegasus models.





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 17:38
Subject: NO: My E-mail

Hi everyone!
Monday evening when I wanted to access my E-mail, something bugged my
program and I kept getting the same four messages over and over again.
Tonight I rang up my ISP support who advised me to open another account to
access further messages.

This means that some of you will be getting answers with a slightly
different E-mail address - and I have absolutely no idea what you may get
besides, since I've never used this Bluemail thing before. It may be that
my messages will be a bit 'experimental' again for a couple of days.
However, I have now found my usual programme seems to be working again, so
I'd rather stick to it if I can.

Hoping you won't be troubled by this too much...

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@TESSELLATION.COM>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 20:54
Subject: Re: Chris Palmer's email address

>     Where can I find Chris Palmer's e-mail? I  would like to begin
>corresponding with him.
>
>                                 Thanks,
>
>                                Sergey  Yasinskiy,
>
>                                 Russia

ckpalmer@toad.net

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert Allan Schwartz     | voice (617) 499-9470
PMB 354                   | fax   (617) 249-0330
955 Massachusetts Ave.    | email notbob@tessellation.com
Cambridge, MA 02139-3180  | URL   http://www.tessellation.com/index.html





From: Michael Clark <mdc@IVC.COM>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 22:56
Subject: Re: August issue of BOS Magazine!

D'gou wrote:

> Congrats to Rick Beech for another great issue.
>        EXCEPT that the Dragonfly will be in THREE parts! (or, HORRORS,
more
>        than three parts!??!?!) Iieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. ;-) ;-) ;-)
>        (Actually, Rick was whispering this in NYC, but was afraid to make
it
>        too loudly known. ;-) ).

I'd also like to thank Rick and the other contributors for a great issue.
Well done!





From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: 01 Sep 1999 23:23
Subject: Re: Origami Challenges and Requests

I don't know if this has been answered since I could not follow some of the
threads closely. I saw one made from dollar bills in Folding California
program. I don't know the author. Can someone shed some light? (Dorothy
Engleman?)

-----Original Message-----
From: Torsten Drees <torsten.drees@T-ONLINE.DE>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 23:23:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami Challenges and Requests

>Hi,
>i already asked for origami diagrams of a telephone. Isnt't it a
>challange? I have to build a big model of some telecommunication
>networks. so it is nessesay to fold one ore more telephones.
>i think a telephone is a challenge for all and there are so many types
>of phones.
>
>i alredy created a model of a paper GSM celluar phone. If my big model
>of the networks is ready, i will make a fold instruction.
>
>Torsten





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 03:52
Subject: Secrets of Origami: Adolfo's Lion help!

I've just recently bought The Secrets of Origami (the book that introduced
me to the subject as a kid).

I had a go at "Adolfo's Lion" and I can't figure out how to unfold the part
that becomes the mane (~step 7). the part diagramed to the right is supposed
to unfold over the top of the head and from the diagrams it looks like part
of the legs has to unfold too, but the previous leg folds are preventing it
from opening. If I partly unfold the legs to help it it ends up looking
nothing like the next diagram.

Can anyone shed any light?

--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)





From: Ho <gmjkho@PRIMUS.COM.AU>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 09:47
Subject: Origami & Therapy

A patient in the hospital introduced me to origami in 1993.
Since then, I have been searching  material relating paper
folding to therapy.  I found very little information available.
A friend directed me to the web site:
 Bits of Smith
http://www.paston.co.uk/users/jon.pure/bitsofsmith.htm

this site holds a wealth of useful information.  John's work is
very impressive.  It inspired me to further my interest.
In January 1999, I started my own web site:
Origami & Mental Health Therapy.

http://members.xoom.com/gmjkho/home.html

The  objective of my web site is to share my experience of
using origami to enhance my work as a mental health nurse.
I gratefully received feedbacks from health professionals,
origami fans and people suffering from mental illnesses.

Through sharing information in my web site, I hope to make a
contribution to the understanding of therapeutic use of origami.
Naturally, professional ethics applies, certain feedbacks need
to be presented in such a way that the person cannot be identified.

With care and respect,  I build up my web site slowly.
Thank you for the support.

I would like to congratulate the remarkable achievement by John Smith
in promoting the use of origami in therapy & education.

I admire John's vision in origami that was clearly illustrated in his
last posting  (extract attached)

Sincerely

George Ho

*********************************************************
Origami & Mental Health Therapy
http://members.xoom.com/gmjkho/home.html

back-up email :   george_ho@yawmail.com
*********************************************************

>----------Subject:---------- Origami and the Brain.---------------------

>  3 Aug 1999 --- by  John Smith <jon.pure@PASTON.CO.UK>

>I was first made aware of the connection between the development of the
brain and the use of the fingers because my son ...Origami seemed to me
a wonderful way of developing the use of the fingers in a young child and
I wondered if this could help in education and therapy.

>After hearing Dr. Paparo's work .....I published a little booklet in 1990
summarising what I had discovered and  referring to Humi Huzita's ideas
that paper folding might help develop additional neural  paths in the brain
using different paths to that of logical thought. This might well help
people with some types of brain damage.

>In the proceedings of COET91  .......  I include an important paper by
Dr. Carlos Pomeron Arbues exploring the  importance of the use of the
hands and the development of the individual. In particular the place of
paper folding in the intellectual development of a child.

>In 1990 I pleaded for proper research into the subject and
I welcome the work of K  and Y. Shumakov in their publication
" The Folding Method of Bilateral Development".

Please read this superb research at  www.icomm.ru/home/origami   .

I quote from the introduction   "....the training of the fingers of a baby
accelerates the process of the  functional maturing of the brain.
The development of the fine movements of  the hands is correlated
with the development of speech in children."

The report does lend great weight to the ideas of Humi Huzita that I
mentioned above. Research such as this does need to be repeated
in other countries .....

John Smith





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 10:17
Subject: Re: Secrets of Origami: Adolfo's Lion help!

I remember having the same problem when I first tried to fold Adolfo's Lion
(and succeeding), a long time ago... Someone asked the List about this same
problem about a month ago, and I dug out my copy of the book to see if I
remembered how, but didn't manage to do it this time. What I did find
out/remember is that if you use ordinary kami, the front legs eventually
turn out the same colour as the mane, in contrast to the nose, but I'm not
quite sure how to fold the paper at the shoulders.

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 11:00
Subject: Writing about crease patterns

I bet someone has an opinion about this. If the subtleties
of English make you yawn, delete now!

Is one of these better than the other?

"crease pattern of a model"
("Of" meaning "belonging or connected to")

"crease pattern for a model"
("For" used to indicate equivalence or "for" used to indicate
the purpose of an activity)

Now that I've looked up the meanings, I'm leaning toward "of"
but I'm still going to ask the question: does the crease pattern
belong to a model or is a crease pattern the actions used to
create a model?

Or is there another, better way to refer to such a thing?

Lisa (origami grammarian)
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 11:23
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

In terms of grammar, my inclination goes to "for", and colloquially I would
     probably use "of" ...
I guess it's up to you to know what you want to express - just belonging, or
     purpose...

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 11:37
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

    If you fold a model, then unfold it, what do you have on the paper?  I
would lean toward 'the crease pattern of a model'.

>"crease pattern of a model"
>("Of" meaning "belonging or connected to")

Scott scram@landmarknet.net
Littleton, NH USA





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <LOKICORP@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 12:26
Subject: Writing about crease patterns

Message text written by Origami List
>"crease pattern of a model"
("Of" meaning "belonging or connected to")

"crease pattern for a model"
("For" used to indicate equivalence or "for" used to indicate
the purpose of an activity)<

        I prefer the latter phraseology -- its more pleasing to my ear, at
any rate,, but I also prefer the term "folding map" to "crease pattern,"
and one speaks of a "map OF a place," so perhaps the former is correct.

 _,_
 ____/_\,) .. _
--____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
 /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 899-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2866
 102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 02 Sep 1999 12:32
Subject: Mr. Yamaguchi's & Tanteidan Convention Books For Sale!

Dear all,

I spoke to Mr. Yamaguchi who told me that their latest Tanteidan 5th
Convention books are now available for sale.  This book is 256 pages long and
contains clear diagrams for 63 origami models which are mostly intermediate
to complex level.  Many of these have not been diagrammed or available in
print before!  Several models are by foreign creators.  The book is printed
in black and white in Japanese, of course, but the diagrams are clearly
printed so language differences should not be a problem.  This book should be
in every one's origami library if you are interested in the more challenging
level of origami!  Cost:  $28.00

Also available (limited quantity) is the Tanteidan 4th Convention Book.  This
book is 192 pages long and contains clear diagrams for 51 origami models
which are again, mostly intermediate to complex level.  The contents are
similar to the Tanteidan's 5th convention book in that many of the models are
not available anywhere else.  If you are interested, I suggest that you place
your order right away as there are only about twenty copies left!   Cost:
$22.00

Mr. Yamaguchi's latest origami book, "Joyful Life With Origami", was
delivered to the Origami House Gallery where I was able to receive a copy
"hot off the press".  It is probably the best collection of Mr. Yamaguchi's
origami work -- a full collection of a variety of origami models rated simple
to high intermediate.  The book is 200 pages long and contains diagrams with
color photographs for 38 origami models -- many of which haven't been
published before.  Cost:  $19.00

Once again, JOAS membership is available for foreigners at a cost of US
$40.00 per year for their bi-monthly (six issues/year) publication.  This
glossy magazine contains beautiful photographs as well and origami diagrams
for models ranging in difficulty from low intermediate to high complex.  The
following information is required for your application:  full name, mailing
address, tel/fax nos., e-mail address, birthdate, sex, occupation and hobbies.

Please send me an e-mail privately in advance to indicate your preferences
then mail me a check for the appropriate amount and I will process your order
at the end of each month.

Please make all checks payable to me, June Sakamoto and mail to:

June Sakamoto
9 Merrill Drive
Mahwah, New Jersey  07430

Sincerely yours,

June Sakamoto





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: 02 Sep 1999 12:45
Subject: Re: Mr. Yamaguchi's & Tanteidan Convention Books For Sale!

Dear All,

I forgot to add a few details on my last e-mail regarding ordering Tanteidan
Convention Books and JOAS membership:

    1.  All book prices include shipping by sea mail to overseas addresses.

    2.  All JOAS membership subscribers will receive their new publications
for the year -- beginning with their first issue #55.  Therefore, even though
issue #56 has already been mailed out to current subscribers, new subscribers
will receive both #55 & #56 and any other issues in print by the time their
subscription starts until spring of 2000 when membership renewal is due.

I hope this clarifies the situation.  Please contact me if you have any
further questions.

Sincerely yours,

June





From: David Whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 14:09
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

Wait!  Why should one be better than the other when they are two different
things?  For those of you that disagree, just think about it they really
are.

David

On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Lisa Hodsdon wrote:

> I bet someone has an opinion about this. If the subtleties
> of English make you yawn, delete now!
>
> Is one of these better than the other?
>
> "crease pattern of a model"
> ("Of" meaning "belonging or connected to")
>
> "crease pattern for a model"
> ("For" used to indicate equivalence or "for" used to indicate
> the purpose of an activity)
>
> Now that I've looked up the meanings, I'm leaning toward "of"
> but I'm still going to ask the question: does the crease pattern
> belong to a model or is a crease pattern the actions used to
> create a model?
>
> Or is there another, better way to refer to such a thing?
>
> Lisa (origami grammarian)
> Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 14:43
Subject: Re: Origami Challenge/ Telephone

Hi Sy!

The dollar bill telephone that you described in Folding California was
designed by Kenny Kawamura.  The telephone and the receiver are each
folded from a dollar bill.  Unfortunately, Kenny has not diagrammed this
wonderful model.

If someone is looking for a novel challenge, why not try to design a
telephone!

Dorothy





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 15:47
Subject: Re: Writing about crease patterns

David Whitbeck wrote:
>
> Wait!  Why should one be better than the other when they are two different
> things?  For those of you that disagree, just think about it they really
> are.
I agree, so I won't have to think about it :-).

Crease pattern OF a model: What you get when you fold the crane and
unfold it.
Crease pattern FOR a model: What you get when you design a model with
TreeMaker, or when a designer only gives a crease pattern and lets the
reader figure out how to fold the model.

Matthias





From: Torsten Drees <torsten.drees@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 15:49
Subject: Re: Origami Challenge/ Telephone

Hi Sy,
Hi Dorothy,

Perhaps, you can describe the dollar bill telephone model a little. My
problem is, that i have no idea how i can fold it. If you could give my
some hints, i will be able to create a new one ..... , i hope.

THANKS

torsten

Dorothy Engleman wrote:
>
> Hi Sy!
>
> The dollar bill telephone that you described in Folding California was
> designed by Kenny Kawamura.  The telephone and the receiver are each
> folded from a dollar bill.  Unfortunately, Kenny has not diagrammed this
> wonderful model.
>
> If someone is looking for a novel challenge, why not try to design a
> telephone!
>
> Dorothy





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 16:10
Subject: teaching origami again :-)

Today I held the first of a series of three origami classes. We were six
people, and it was the 'traditional origami' evening. As usual, I
brought quite a collection of models along, even such models that we
wouldn't be able to fold, just to show what a variety of models is
possible.

It's always a surprise what models catch people's interest, and what
models they aren't interested in. This time, the starbox, the crane, and
the (not so traditional) 'wave' were the evening's success.

After the last few classes were cancelled due to zero interest, I really
enjoyed teaching again. Feedback from the group was quite positive, so
we're all looking forward to next week.

Matthias "that'll teach 'em!" Gutfeldt





From: BTStern <btstern@BUFFNET.NET>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 16:18
Subject: fold a day calendar

How can I get one of these?

Beth
Have a Bob Day
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/origami.html
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/Renaldo.html





From: Elsje vd Ploeg <evdploeg@BETUWE.NET>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 16:41
Subject: [NO]Pepi lost address Walkers family, cats tour

Dear list,
I have a new computer,
I have had big problems.
A good reason to make a new homepage.
I would like to restart the catstour .
Please Walkers family tell me your
e-mail address.
xxxxxxxxx elsje and pepi





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <LOKICORP@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 16:47
Subject: For Ron Koh...

Hi All -

        Sorry to take up bandwidth with this, but Ron:  if you're out
there, could you e-mail me?  I've misplaced your address!  Thanks!

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 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 899-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2866
 102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 16:57
Subject: Re: For Ron Koh...

Actually, your sig takes up more bandwidth than your message ;-).

Matthias 'sig that!' Gutfeldt





From: Julie Rhodes <kettir@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 18:39
Subject: Origami Sighting:

On Comedy Central (The Comedy Channel), there's some new show called "Harry
Leaves for the Orient" (I forget the guy's name).  This afternoon the
advertisement for it showed artwork of an origami crane.  Very nice!  I
would have done a vidcap if I'd been taping it.
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