




From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: 20 Aug 1999 23:48
Subject: Re: Animal books?

OK, here is a rather late follow-up to the animal books-thread.

It turns out that there are books on anatomy that were written for
artists. Evi kindly recommended two German books by Gottfried Bammes
called "Studien zur Gestalt des Tieres" and "Groe Tieranatomie". The
latter is about over three times as big as the former, and is a
veritable compendium on all aspects of anatomy that might be of interest
for an artist. But "Studien zur ..." also contains all the necessary
details and may even be worth buying if you only intend to look at the
pictures. (You might also want to see whether there are english editions
of these books.)

The different sections of both books focus on one part of the anatomy
(the legs, the head etc.) and compares these sections of different types
of animals. There are also sections on general aspects of anatomy,
ie. how an animal maintains equilibrium, how it walks etc.

--
Yours, Sebastian <skirsch@t-online.de>

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From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Date: 21 Aug 1999 00:49
Subject: [on-topic, really!] Re: C++ is amazing!

Following up on a series of comments on the merits/demerits of C++:

I've used C++ for several origami programming projects (see, this really is
on-topic), as well as for programming projects that have come up in my
regular work (simulation of semiconductor and fiber lasers, nonlinear
diffusion, photorefractive two-beam coupling). In comparison to other
languages I've used for real-world projects -- Fortran, Pascal, Object
Pascal, C, Mathematica, PostScript -- C++ has several attributes that has
made it work very well for many different types of projects, including
origami ones.

One of the best arguments for using C++ is also one of the reasons why people
hate it: C++ is a real kluge, the unholy offspring of a fast, efficient
language (C) with some fairly sophisticated OOP concepts stapled on (classes
and inheritance), and then a big dose of metaprogramming (templates) piled on
top of that. So it has a lot of quirks that come from its hodge-podge
heritage. Nevertheless, it's about the only widely-available language that
lets you simultaneously do fairly high-level object simulation (using
objects) cheek-by-jowl with hard-core, speed-optimized number-crunching.

My own magnum opus of origami programming is TreeMaker, about which I have
written previously on this list so I won't repeat what it does, but I will
say that C++ allows a neat encapsulation of the relationships between graph
theoretic objects (Nodes, Edges, Paths), origami objects (Vertexes, Creases,
Polygons) and other mathematical and computational objects, using polymorphic
multiple inheritance in C++'s object model. (In fact, one of the reasons I've
resisted the urge to port TreeMaker to Java -- and thus create a
"design-your-own-origami-model" web page -- is that Java is
single-inheritance and can't simulate the TreeMaker model as simply as the
multiple-inheritance C++). My first attempt at the design of TreeMaker was
(believe it or not) based on Fortran, but Fortran can't remotely capture the
behaviors and relationships in a natural way and I quickly gave that up as a
lost cause.

But at the same time, TreeMaker is, at heart, a number-crunching application
whose core is a mixture of C and C++ mathematical crunching (the central
routine, CFSQP -- which I hasten to point out that I licensed, not wrote --
is a nonlinear constrained optimizer at the cutting edge of computational
techniques. And it's in C.) Even now, after 30 years, most hard-core
computational programming is still done in Fortran for reasons of speed and
compatibility, but there is a steadily-growing body of C code and programming
techniques. There are several studies that show C is nearly as fast as
Fortran, and with the latest advances in C++ optimizing compilers and
techniques like template metaprogramming, C++ can approach the same speed as
Fortran in numerical codes -- something that can't be said about any other
object-oriented language.

And of course, many commercial user interface libraries are also written in
C++, so a single language gives you simulation, (potentially) efficient
number-crunching, and the UI.

(I qualify the number-crunching as only _potentially_ efficient, because C++
also makes it very easy to write slow, bloated code (warning: gratuitious
slur coming) which explains Microsoft Office.)

Getting back to origami programs (so I don't have to go back and stick a [NO]
into the subject header): over the years, I've written an origami simulator,
(fold the paper on the screen), TreeMaker (origami design), ReferenceFinder
(find short folding sequences to locate any reference point on the square).
C++ works very well for all them. If you only have time to learn a single
language and you have to solve a lot of different types of problems and get
real-world, working answers, C++ is a very good language to learn.

Robert J. Lang

BTW, all of the programs I mentioned in the last paragraph are available at
the rugcis ftp site.





From: Pat Ellis <EllisPS@AOL.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 06:43
Subject: looking for diagram

I am looking for a diagram I believe is called Montoya's Star.  Has anyone
heard of it or know where it may be published?

Pat





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 07:19
Subject: Re: looking for diagram

Montoya's star is to be found in 'Secrets of Origami' by Robert Harbin.

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Susan Johnston <oggy@NEDDY8.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 07:28
Subject: Holiday

To everyone,

I'm going to Devon for a week (in England), I'm leaving today and I will be
back next Saturday.

I'm not going to unsubscribe just in case I miss anything important
therefore when I come back it will probably take me a few days for me to
read all the mail!

Sorry for telling you all this because it has nothing to do with you all but
if somebody is sending me an email and I don't reply to it for ages, then
its because i'm on holiday okay?

And also, if somebody asks a question to the list and I come back and read
it, i might want to reply to it even if the question was asked ages ago so
forgive me for this too.

Bye for now

Susan Johnston





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 07:30
Subject: Re: looking for diagram

At 06:41 AM 8/21/99 EDT, you wrote:
>I am looking for a diagram I believe is called Montoya's Star.  Has anyone
>heard of it or know where it may be published?
>
>Pat
>
>
Hi Pat,

The Montoya Star is in the latest edition of Harbin's Secrets of Origami.
I looked it up and found it on p.54 & 55. I've been looking for a star
just like it, so I'm glad you asked.

If you can't find it, I could photocopy it and send it to you via snail
mail.

Happy folding,
Ria Sutter





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 07:38
Subject: Folding Bone

Various instruments to help folding were mentioned in the List a few days
ago.
As a result, I bought a folding bone and am experimenting with it. It
really makes clean folds and also helps to avoid 'diamond folds' in
corners. It's also great for doing precreases (especially with several
thicknesses of paper), and folding neatly small figures and finicky
details.
As regards tweezers, I use standard cosmetic tweezers with pointed ends.
They're easily available at any supermarket, they're cheap, and they're the
right size for me.

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 07:51
Subject: Re: [NO] FrontPage for homepage -

On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 12:05:28PM -0700, Howard Portugal wrote:
> Do I smell a religious war coming on?

Yes. HTML editors are for Quiche Eaters. Real Programmers write HTML
pages with ed. Real Programmers do site management with ed scripts.

ed is the standard text editor.

(Oh, in case anyone is interested in what I use for the Origami
Deutschland homepages: I use wml as a preprocessor, GNU emacs with psgml as
editor and make for "site management". Version control of the source
tree is done with CVS.)

--
Yours, Sebastian <skirsch@t-online.de>

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From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 08:31
Subject: Re: Not an origami book (was RE: Origami Books: What do you look ...

Dave Stephenson indited:

+Each to their own friend, I don't see people who cut as dumb or otherwise,
+but to me the true beauty of origami is to overcome the technical challenge
+of creating the desired fold without cutting or gluing.

To each their own indeed, sire. Perhaps you merely mispoke, but to say
"out and out cheating, theres always a way round just have to find it"
either implies dumb, or lazy, or both.

+As to whether my method effects the trueness of final form is open to debate,
+this can only be down to the designer of the model and their abilities.
+Anyway theres a name for making models by cutting the paper, decoupage I
+believe :) )

That'd be Kirigami, I believe ;-). Decoupage involves other elements
beyound cutting.

I personally believe, but do not have the math skills or interests to
prove, that any model made with cutting can also be made with pure
folding, given the freedom to start from an arbitrarily larger sheet of
paper. Obviously the internal structures of the two models will be very
different, but they can still be equivalent in terms of the form of the
model, its articulation, recognizability, etc.

But that doesn't mean that the folded only model is always better, or
even desirable, as a finished model. I quite readily concede that the
constraints of a single uncut sheet can be quite challenging and fun.
What I dispute is that those constraints are better (or worse) than any
other set of constraints you might choose to consider imposing on
yourself. For example, the "purity" of a one piece Omega Star belies
the reality of its varying thicknesses and requirement for ultra thin
paper.

-D'gou





From: Spider Barbour <spider@ULSTER.NET>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 10:00
Subject: animal anatomy books

-- [ From: Spider Barbour * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Sebastian and Evi!  Of course!  Excellent thought!  How did I forget?  Here
are some useful paperback books for origami animal designing:

W Frank Calderon,  ANIMAL PAINTING AND ANATOMY, publ. by Dover

Jack Hamm, HOW TO DRAW ANIMALS, publ. by Grosset and Dunlap

Charles R. Knight, ANIMAL DRAWING -- ANATOMY AND ACTION FOR ARTISTS,  publ.
by Dover  (Knight did the fabulous murals at the NY Museum of Natural
History -- please pardon the mention of NY!)

Don Rice, ed.,  ANIMALS -- A PICTURE SOURCEBOOK,  publ. by Van Nostrand
Reinhold

                        Anita F. Barbour





From: Gillian Wiseman <gilladian@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 10:25
Subject: Re: [No}Kawahata's Apatosaurus

Jerry - thanks for the great info! I was rattling off what I remembered from
reading some kids dino books back when I was a children's librarian last
year. Anybody interested in the history of american dinosaur hunting might
like to check out Kathryn Lasky's excellent if fictionalized account "The
Bone Wars". It's young adult, but quite fun!

Gillian

Jerry Said:
>
>         Actually, no complete articulated skeleton and skull of
>_Apatosaurus_ has ever been found, although some fairly complete skeletons
>have been recovered.  Two good skulls of _Apatosaurus_ are known (at least,
>we're pretty sure they belong to _Apatosaurus_!), but not connected to the
>skeletons.  We know from similarity of the postcranial (everything behind
>the head) skeletons of _Apatosaurus_ and _Diplodocus_ (which _is_ known
>from specimens with heads) that they are closely related; the isolated
>skulls attributed to _Apatosaurus_ are similar but broader and more massive
>than those of _Diplodocus_.
>
>         The mis-associated skull to which you refer was the unfortunate
>result of someone putting a _Camarasaurus_ skull on an _Apatosaurus_
>skeleton in order to complete a mount.  While this seems absurd by todays
>standards, the mount was made back 'round the turn of the century before we
>knew as much about dinosaurs and their interrelationships as we do now.
>Also, to be fair, skulls of _Camarasaurus_ had been found not too far from
>skeletons of _Apatosaurus_ in some places, such as Dinosaur National
>Monument, so before a good understanding that _Apatosaurus_ was a close
>relative of _Diplodocus_ -- closer than to _Camarasaurus_, at any rate --
>it was fair to think that all the sauropods should have similar heads.  The
>error was only realized and corrected in the last 30 years!
>
>
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>
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>                 Fossil Preparation Lab
>          New Mexico Museum of Natural History
>                   1801 Mountain Rd NW
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From: Mike Kanarek <kanarekorigami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 11:12
Subject: Thanks for Cranes

Thank you all who sent cranes for my first year sober. M.K.

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From: Mike Kanarek <kanarekorigami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 11:20
Subject: Origami of Kingston, NY meeting

The Origami Kingston Club meets on the second and fourth Saturday's of
the month at the Kingston Area Library.
The library is located at 55 Franklyn Street in Kingston NY.
Information may be gotten at 914-331-0988
Meeting start at 10:30 and last about a hour and a half and are in the
Childrens library.
See you there. Mike Kanarek

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From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 11:54
Subject: Re: $1 discontinued?

Carmine et al. Yes, I am back on the list. All best from Florence.





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 12:35
Subject: Re: (NO) FrontPage for homepage -

I certainly hope not, and I apologise to all on the list if my question
seemed abrupt and contentious. Mathias and I have been exchanging
personal mail over the last month or so, and I should think we have been
getting on well enough for me to take a cheeky 'jab'.

But that second bit on recommendations was asked because my son has been
thinking of starting a webpage of his own, and I have been asking some
of my IT people for advice. Most of them recommended FrontPage, and I
was on the verge of transfering some of my hard-earned Singapore dollars
to Micro$oft Corpn when Mathias' posting came around. It was pretty
timely (thanks, Mathias), or I might have had to borrow an Alphorn from
Mathias to conk some chappies.

I am a firm believer that the best way to get my stuff on a webpage is
to sponge off some one else (Yurii and Katrin, don't read this!).

Howard Portugal wrote:
>
> Do I smell a religious war coming on?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nick Robinson [mailto:nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK]
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 11:27 AM
> > To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > Subject: (NO) FrontPage for homepage -
> >
> >
> > Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH> sez
> >
> > >>>Oh, and don't use Frontpage as your homepage editor :-)
> > >>And why not...?! Recommendations, anyone?
> >
> > I use Dreamweaver (wysiwyg) for most things, then Homesite (code) if I
> > need to hack things around much...
> >
> > all the best,
> >
> > Nick Robinson
> >
> > email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
> > homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now
> > featuring soda syphons!
> > BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Mark Morden <marmonk@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 13:09
Subject: ORCA thoughts: part 1 - the exhibit

There haven't been many postings on ORCA, so I will provide some =
thoughts and observations.  I was one of the organizing group, so I =
didn't participate in classes as fully as the registered attendees. =20

The conference was held at one of the dorms at the University of =
Washington campus.  I arrived late Friday morning and found a buzz of =
activities going on as setup was taking place.  My task was to get the =
exhibition set up.  There were several volunteers to help, without whom =
it would not have gotten done.  My thanks to all of them.  For the =
exhibit, we had acrylic cases in which to display the models.  These =
were sports memorabilia cases that were perfect for showing of the =
folded models.  We also had desk lamps to individually light each case.  =
The effect was very good and provided some additional class to the =
models.  Most everyone who visited liked this approach over just =
arranging models on a table top.  It also provided security for the =
models. =20

The big names who displayed at the exhibit were our special guest Hojyo =
Takashi from Japan, Michael LaFosse, Joseph Wu, John Montroll, Robert =
Lang, Chris Palmer, and Florence Temko. =20

Hojyo brought a sitting budda and a model titled Maitoreya.  Both were =
remarkable for the detail and character he was able to fold into his =
models.  The two models were kindly donated to the Japanese Consulate in =
Seattle, where they will be permanently displayed. =20

Michael brought about a dozen models and six or seven framed works to =
display.  These were my personal favorites.  He has a wonderful sense =
for folding and instilling spirit into his works.  Included were some =
turtles, butterflies, a squirrel, a cormorant, some koi, the frog from =
his video, and a bat.  The bat was so remarkable and detailed that it =
could have inspired Bruce Wayne to become Batman.

Joseph's display was also impressive.  Unfortunately, I didn't get a =
good look at it.  He left on Saturday evening before I had a chance to =
study and photograph it, so I can't recall what all he showed.

John had about two dozen pieces included ones that are probably in his =
forthcoming book.  My favorites were the rider on the horse, the howling =
coyote, the sparrow, and the rabbit. =20

Robert could not attend the conference but sent along his pieces.  These =
included an elk with a full rack of antlers, two other different =
antlered deer, the chameleon on a branch, and more bugs.  The bugs were =
folded out of paper made by Michael LaFosse and were incredible in their =
detail.  Lang folders told be these were not ones in his books, so maybe =
a new book is in the planning.  He also sent a Lion that was folded from =
Michael's  paper.  The model was designed so that the deckles of the =
paper (the rough edges) formed the edges of the lion's mane. =20

Chris brought about a dozen fabric pieces.  His folded silk pieces were =
mounted against the windows so that the light would highlight the =
patterns of his creations.  They were all stunning and almost =
indescribable.  The genius and patience to create such works is =
remarkable. =20

Florence has a small exhibits of her "applied origami."  These are items =
where origami is used in conjunction with other models or materials to =
create new works.  These included flower centerpieces and greeting =
cards. =20

Other exhibits from "non-celebrities" included both original and =
interpreted works.  Sh Chen could not attend but sent along some =
original models.  These included unicyclers and juggling unicyclers, a =
pair of scissors cutting a piece of paper, and graphics folded out of a =
single piece.  Among these was a "no-cutting" symbol, and "origami" in =
Japanese characters.  I had a display of decorated modular cubes I have =
developed, crosses and stars, and a crane vase.  Two ladies had an =
extensive display of Tomoko Fuse quilts.  Elaine Holmquist brought a =
small display of Fuse boxes done in fabric.  For dollar bill fans, Steve =
Hecht and Allen Parry both had a collection of original dollar bill =
folds.  Bryan Edwards had an impressive display of insects, Engle's =
knight on horseback, and the popular red demon. =20

All in all is was an impressive  collection and an inspiring display to =
view and enjoy.  I hope in the near future to post photos to share with =
everyone. =20

Mark Morden =3D=3D marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
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There is truth in the red letters
There is hope for the hopeless=20
Peace and forgiveness
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From: "K. A. Lundberg" <klundber@MNSINC.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 13:55
Subject: A question and an Announcment

First I have a techinical question.  I reacently had my computer worked on.
I had to download and install a new copy of Adobe Acrobat Reader.  It will
not launch in Internet Explorer.  It says something about the plugin not
initializing.  Help!  There aren't any plugins in the IE folder.  I tried
useing the file Adobe suggested for Netscape but that didn't work.  Anyone
know what I need to do?

Now, an announcment...for years I have carried my origami tools around in an
old plastic manicure kit.  It finally bit the dust a few weeks ago.  Instead
of trying to find a new one I put together a simple pattern that can be made
from found materials.  You can pick up the .PDF file on my website if you
are interested.

http://www.monumental.com/klundber

Thanks,
Kalei





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 14:22
Subject: Oriland

Hi All:

Yurii & Katrin Shumakovs new website is just wonderful. You
must visit the cities of Oriland! You can even interact with
the inhabitants and take part in an "Origami Quest".

Well, gotta get back to their site and finish my Quest :)
Just wanted to share this wonderful experience with you
all.     http://library.advanced.org/27152/index.htm

To Yurii & Katrin......Hope you win the "ThinkQuest"
competition. You have my vote! This is a fantastic
website!!!

Kathy  <*))))><





From: Mark Morden <marmonk@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 14:24
Subject: ORCA thoughts: part 2a - the conference (long)

As I mentioned before, as part of PAPER and Origami NW, the organizing =
group of the conference, I didn't get to participate fully in the =
classes as a registered attendee.  With that in mind, here are my =
recollections of the conference.

The facilities were in a dormitory at the University of Washington.  =
There was a large, long meeting room that was the focal point of the =
activities.  At each end of the room were two smaller rooms.  At one end =
of the large room, one of the smaller rooms housed the exhibit and the =
other was used for some of the "lectures"  that were held.  At the other =
end of the large room was the vendors areas and the supply room.  The =
big room was filled with table and chairs and the areas were generally =
divided into beginner, intermediate, high-intermediate, and complex for =
the classes. =20

The focus of the conference was to help make the attendees better =
folders, not just teach them new models, though that was part of it =
also.  The format was "European style."  There was a schedule of classes =
each day and participants had the option of attending those classes in =
which they were interested.  There were no numbers or signing up.  I =
think this worked well.  There may have been a little confusion about =
the schedules as they tended to shift a bit.  However, when people =
wanted to take part in a class, they arrived and sat down.  If more =
people arrived, more tables and chairs were added.  At some classes =
where additional chairs could not be accommodated, the overflow observed =
or went to find another class to take. =20

On Friday evening, Allen Parry opened the conference, welcomed all to =
Seattle, and spent some time sharing some of the highlights that =
everyone could expect.  No official activities were planned for Friday =
evening.  However, Allen explained the main room was open 24 hours, so =
people were welcome to stay and fold as long as they could stand it.  As =
the evening progressed there were small groups gathered around the table =
visiting and sharing models with each other.  I spent some time with Gay =
Merrill Gross and Steve Hecht, from our Seattle group.  Gay showed us =
some of her folds, and we discussed the types of folds that are =
appropriate for beginners.  PAPER had been doing a lot of demonstrations =
in the past two years and we keep trying to refine what works best for =
beginners. =20

Saturday was filled with classes.  Those that I can recall include Hojyo =
teaching is human form base.  This was probably the most complex class =
offered.  Those attending were doing their best to keep up, though some =
appeared to be folding a la Michael Jordan: with their tongue sticking =
out as they tried to figure out the next move.  Other classes included =
Chris Palmer teaching some twist folds, Joseph Wu showing his sitting =
elephant, Howard Portugal teaching business card folds, Carol Martinson =
showing the Yoda model, Yusri teaching a Robert Lang Bat, Bryan Edwards =
teaching a beetle model, plus others teaching modulars such as Fuse =
boxes and Mette Pederson wreaths.=20

Among the "technique" classes there was a paper making demonstration in =
which participants could pull their sheets or use a pour method to make =
paper.  That had a constant stream of attendees.  A math professor gave =
a lecture on origami and math that received rave reviews.  I didn't =
attend, so I don't know what was discusses.  Another who was there will =
have to share that. =20

The best class, in my opinion, and the only one I attended, was Michael =
LaFosse's two day workshop on backcoating paper, wet folding, and =
interpreting folds and models.  The focus of the conference was to learn =
a dog model of Yoshizawa's, which Michael obtained permission to teach.  =
The first day was to begin dry folding the model and learning how to =
backcoat paper with methyl cellulose.  Everyone got a chance to do their =
own backcoating and mounting the papers on drying boards.  We also =
dryfolding the model to familiarize ourselves with the steps and =
nuances.  Michael provided some background on how Yoshizawa diagrams and =
shared some tips for interpreting them.  There were a lot of "aha"s and =
"oh, now I get it"s from those who had tried to follow Yoshizawa in the =
past.   =20

The workshop was continued on Sunday as we had to let the backcoated =
paper dry.  The start on Sunday was an exercise to help us see the model =
we were folding.  Overnight Michael had wet folded the dog model.  The =
participants were given the exercise to sketch Michael's model to help =
us observe proportions and relationships of the finished product.  =
Michael explained that until we had an understanding of the whole model, =
we would not be able to bring life or add spirit to a piece.   After =
sketching, our dried paper was cut from the boards, squared up, and then =
we proceeded to wet fold the dog after Michael explained some of the =
nuances of wet folding.  At the end, he had us set our models up and =
provided a critique of each.  These were not criticisms in the negative =
sense, but observations of where the models were and where they should =
be.  It was all very helpful and positive. =20

Michael is an excellent teacher who loves his work and who is very =
expressive and supportive.  He exudes a lot of energy for paperfolding =
which is easy to pick up on if you are around him.  I would highly =
recommend to anyone to take a class from him if you have a chance.  It =
will make you a better folder. =20

Mark Morden =3D=3D marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
--------------------------------------------------------
There is love in the red letters=20
There is truth in the red letters
There is hope for the hopeless=20
Peace and forgiveness
There is life in the red letters
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From: Mark Morden <marmonk@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 14:24
Subject: ORCA thoughts: part 2a - the conference (long)

We are in the home stretch here with this report.

Saturday evening was the traditional "fold till you drop" session.  As the
     previous evening, there were small groups spread around the room sharing
     folds and visiting with each other.  Michael LaFosse lead a group of us
     through a wet-folding of his Cormor
 nt drying it's wings. Again, this was another excellent session with Michael,
     as he showed us a great model and how to wet fold when not using
     backcoated paper.  To everyone's surprise, but not disappointment, this
     session lasted about 3 hours or more.

At about 1:30 am the folders had dwindled down to the diehards.  Most people
     were at a table where John Montroll had the manuscript for his dollar bill
     folds book.  Several people were trying them out and giving feedback to
     John on the following of the di
 grams.  My take on the book, after a scan of the table of contents, is that he
     has reinterpreted many of his animal models and redesigned them for dollar
     bills.  That may not be completely accurate, though.  It looks like it
     will be an excellent book, an

Sunday was more classes and was similar to Saturday.  Hojyo had to leave at
     mid-morning, so he did not teach a class.  Joseph Wu had to leave the
     night before, so he was not in attendance either.  The lecture on Sunday
     was about origami and copyright law.
  Anna Weathers already reported on this earlier this week.  Many of the
     classes from Saturday were repeated so those who missed them then could
     participate on Sunday.  One class that was taught both days was Origami
     and the Book Arts.  This was taught by
 D

Sunday saw a significant number of drop-ins from the Seattle area.  For a small
     fee they could visit the exhibit and learn some basic folds.  John Smiley,
     from our local PAPER, group was keep busy all day introducing visitors to
     the joy of paperfolding.

Saturday and Sunday, Richard Alexander was roaming the area with his video
     camera to document the proceedings.  Saturday night, he interviewed some
     of the attendees and found out about how they came to origami and what
     they enjoyed about it.  He also talk
 d to some of the participants from Michael's workshop after they had completed
     their dog models.

At 5:00 pm, the conference was officially closed.  The facilities were packed
     up and the exhibit was taken down.  To my surprise, there were many that
     just kept folding.  After we were done cleaning up, Richard showed the
     video he had made of the conferen
 e.  To cap it off, he had RC from Portland perform his song "Wasted Away in
     Origami-ville."  (the tune is the Jimmy Buffet song)  RC added a special
     verse about Seattle that had something to do with wet folding in the rain.
     :-)  As a gift to PAPER and Or
 g

As I left about 9:00 pm, Michael was sitting down and teaching his Happy Good
     Luck Bat to a table of eager folders.  I was too tired to hang around, so
     I regretfully had to miss it.

Overall I think it was a wonderful conference.  Most everyone enjoyed
     themselves and learned new techniques and models.  For myself, I have a
     ton of new ideas I want to try out and must now find the time to do them
     all.  I also met new folders and reacqua
 nted myself with others I met before.  On these reasons, I consider the time
     spent at ORCA worthwhile and the whole endeavor a great success.

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
--------------------------------------------------------
There is love in the red letters
There is truth in the red letters
There is hope for the hopeless
Peace and forgiveness
There is life in the red letters
                dcTalk, "Red Letters"





From: Mark Morden <marmonk@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 16:27
Subject: Oops - 2a should be 2b

Sorry for the mislabeling the subject line.  The third part of my ORCA report
     is 2b.  I didn't want readers to think I sent the same message twice.

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
--------------------------------------------------------
There is love in the red letters
There is truth in the red letters
There is hope for the hopeless
Peace and forgiveness
There is life in the red letters
                dcTalk, "Red Letters"





From: Marion Riley <marion-r@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 18:30
Subject: Re: NO?

  Anyone out there doing anything in architectual origami or pop-up
paper engineering?

     Marion  L. Riley lll

e-mail welcome





From: Richard Hunter <rhunter4@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 20:10
Subject: Re: ORCA

I would like to echo what others have said about ORCA:  It was really great!
The open organization (no priority numbers) really made for a nice feel for
the convention.  Everyone got to take the classes they wanted to!  You
didn't have to belong to the "inner circle" to get a good priority number.

My outstanding memory of the convention was Michael La Fosse and his
wonderful two day class on back coating paper followed by folding
Yoshizawa's dog.  The passion that Michael brings to origami is contagious.
I think all who took this class came away with a tremendous appreciation for
the artistry that can be applied to origami.  Michael also taught an
impromptu wet folding class featuring a cormorant drying its wings and
another class featuring his happy good luck bats.  Wow! That's over 12 hours
of teaching.  He is truley an asset to our hobby.

Other recolections:

Steve Hecht with $folds--lots of fund and innovation
Gay Merrill Gross with Rose w/Calyx--Georgeous probably the best rose/Calyxy
combonation.
Chris Palmer  with Slow Closing Flower
Yusri Johan with Lang's Bat (very cool) and his own $Warthog
Bryan Edwards with foil backcoating and some Lang bugs
Hojo Takashi with his human figure base--his folding is spectacular!
Unfortuanately he didn't teach anything beyond the base.





From: Shalom LeVine <shalom.levine@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 21:34
Subject: Clear plastic folding sheet

People,

 I don't know if anyone has had this idea already, but:

 I was a Staples the other day, and saw a sheet of 1/8" transparent plastic
that had been folded to form an 8 1/2" x 11" pocket to hold a picture (or
whateever). I bought it and broke it in half (at the fold) and now have a
trasparent folding base that I can lay  on top of the origami book I am
using, so I can see the folding diagrams
right underneath me; no more looking up and down, or fighting to keep the
book open. Works great!

Shalom LeVine
"Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis is
hippopotomonstrosesquipedalian, to say the least!"





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 21:56
Subject: Re: long-named Escher model : Wanted!!!!

Having read Shalom LeVine's e-mail sign off a few times, I have finally come
to realize that Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (white lung
disease) reminds me of Pedaltanorotandamovenscentroculatisarticulosis; a
bizarre Escher creature that locomotes by rolling, and is seen in many of
his prints, one of which describes its development by spontaneous
generation. Has any one ever seen a model for this little creature of MCE's
devise? I always thought it would make a great fold, especially if it could
articulate back into a ball and roll. Just fishin' the o-list for a few
bites.

All the best - c!!!
everyone accepts "the illusion of reality", but you're crazy if you talk of
"the reality of illusion"
ella-mae@msn.com





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 22:00
Subject: Origami Sighting

Excerpted from a Reuters dispatch dated Friday August 20 5:14 AM ET:

"Jim Rose, the U.S. entertainer whose circus of freaks has delighted or
disgusted audiences worldwide for years, said Thursday he planned to
retire.

"I'm going to call it quits. Its been a great run, but I think Ive
reached the end of the line," Rose, whose show Secrets of the Strange
has been the top-selling draw of all time at Edinburghs quirky Fringe
arts festival, told Reuters.

This show's current theme is organ origami, or the strange shapes that
can be made from the human appendage."
__________________________________

Here's my favorite origami organ:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Den/8802/Convention/i35.html

Dorothy





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 21 Aug 1999 22:20
Subject: fabulous origami boxes -->double vortex

I folded A' of the vortex box last night, I just got the book.  That's a
neat box, has anyone else enjoyed it?  I love spirals and neat patterns
like the vortex and pinwheels.  See if only the white flaps were longer and
came to a 22.5' angle then I could fold them into a spiral and that would
be neat.

David "one of many Fuse freaks"





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 01:01
Subject: Re: Origami Books - What do you look for

My thanks to all who responded to my mini-survey. Apart from those who
posted their response on the list, I received several more in my
personal mail as well.

Carlos Alberto Furuti wrote:

Er, Ronald, does it mean you're *finally* going to collect your work in
a book?

That is the general idea, but I thought I should check out what the more
knowledgeable, prospective customers want, and whether I am likely to
get in over my head. The wealth of information and tips are very useful,
although it means that I will have quite a bit of rework to do .....
:-(

The feedback has given me plenty to think about and work towards.
However, as mentioned by someone else (sorry, can't remember whom) on
the list, authors have rather limited say in areas such as packaging and
presentation.

David Whitbeck wrote:

To Ronald: I have faith in you that you'll write a brilliant book, I
can't wait to buy it when it's published, which I'm sure it will.

Gee, I wish YOU were in the publishing business! Thanks - right now,
your faith is a lot greater than mine, but I hope not to disappoint you.

Evi wrote, via personal mail:

... If the book is too expensive, I can't afford it ....

Retail price is a major consideration, and the extent to which colour
photos, etc are used will add significantly to the cost. I sort of like
the approach in John Montroll's books, despite the 'Dover computer
generated artwork which looks lame' (Quote: David Whitbeck). Basically,
I think John/Dover has struck a good balance between that which is
desired against what would be pratical, to produce great books, with
colour photos thrown in, at very affordable prices.





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 22 Aug 1999 07:26
Subject: Re: new items on the "Lister List"

Nick,

Thank you for putting new items on the Lister List.

But I haven't found them yet!  Is there  a delay?

I seem I have contributed often to Origami-L: I've been looking through my
postings to the net sice 1996. Is it open to me to nominate other items?

Some of them may need consolidating or editing. I realise, however, that
space isn't unlimited.

The Listmaker.





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: 22 Aug 1999 07:51
Subject: Re: new items on the "Lister List"

Sorry: I intended my earlier posting for Nick personally, but it escaped and
came to the List.

Many apologies.

David Lister.





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 08:02
Subject: Re: Oriland

Oriland is awesome. Maybe I should take my own lousy homepage off the
net.

Matthias

"Katherine J. Meyer" wrote:
> Well, gotta get back to their site and finish my Quest :)
> Just wanted to share this wonderful experience with you
> all.     http://library.advanced.org/27152/index.htm





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 10:40
Subject: NO:Cryptic messages

>Yes, please, *please* unsubscribe him before he posts another whole
>digest to the list!
>
>SCNR.

SCNR?

Scott scram@landmarknet.net
Littleton NH USA





From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 11:23
Subject: Re: NO: Re: accents

On 20-Aug-99, Nick Robinson (nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK) wrote:

>>What is the 'cheesypeas' all about, anyway?
>It's a sketch from a comedy show (recently demised) here in Britainland
>called the "Fast Show"...

Ooh, suits you, sir, ooh...

--
Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

Weyland-Yutani - Building Better Worlds





From: Marcia Mau <maumoy@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 11:44
Subject: Nancy Loo Bjorge's Paper Quilt Exhibition

The exhibit of Nancy Loo Bjorge's paper origami quilts in San Francisco will
be from Sept 4 to Nov 7, 1999 at the Chinese Cultural Center, 750 Kearny St,
3rd Flr.  The opening reception is Sept 4 from 2PM to 4PM.

Nancy's email address: nbjorge@grapevine.net

Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA

_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 12:35
Subject: Re: Folding Bone

Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH> sez

>I bought a folding bone

Arggh - dead animal alert! Can I suggest trying a plastic alternative?

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 12:35
Subject: Re: Holiday

Susan Johnston <oggy@NEDDY8.FREESERVE.CO.UK> sez

>I'm going to Devon for a week (in England)

If you'd have mention earlier, you could have arranged to meet Joan
Homewood - perhaps the most experienced woman in the BOS, after Iris!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 12:35
Subject: Re: [NO] FrontPage for homepage -

Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE> sez

>HTML editors are for Quiche Eaters. Real Programmers write HTML
>pages with ed.

The reason we eat quiche is because we can create a 4 frame web page
with nested tables in under a minute - that gives us at least an hours
start at the refreshment table over you textmen ;)

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 12:46
Subject: Re: Oriland

>Oriland is awesome. Maybe I should take my own lousy homepage off the
>net.
>
>Matthias

Hey don't say that, your page is great! I love being able to go to a site
that's quick because it's not clogged with silly graphics all over it.
Yours, Joseph Wu's and John Smith's sites are the ones I have bookmarked as
I found them to be my favorites and the most useful to me.

Sincerly,

David

ps I'm not implying anything about other sites so nobody wig out.  There
are alot of good sites out there.





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 13:05
Subject: Re: Folding Bone

'Scuse me... when I bought it I just took what the saleswoman gave me ...

... and what about saving the trees from which your paper comes?

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Friederike=20Noether?= <f_noether@YAHOO.DE>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 15:18
Subject: Re: Architectural Origami

--- Ho <gmjkho@primus.com.au> schrieb:
> Hi, What is your name please?

Sorry, I am pretty new to Internet and Maillists. It4s Friederike. I
     concentrated so much in tranlating the text in english that I completely
     forgot to sign it. English is not my native tongue, i4m german and my
     schooldays are long gone.

> I am also interested in modular architectural
> origami.
>
> There are some structures you may be interested in
> this book :
>
> Make it with paper
> by Paul Jackson & Vivien Frank
> Wellfleet Press 1992
> ISBN 1-55521-803-2
>
> page 166 -169
> Architecture Modules designed by Didier Boursin in
> France
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Sincerely
>
> George Ho
>
Thanks for the book tips I will try to get my hands on at least one of them.

Marion Riley asked for "architectural origami and pop up cards". Have a look at
     the website from a japanese architect:"Origamic Architecture in Makuhari"

http://www.remus.dti.ne.jp/%7Eanjo/indexe.html

He makes wonderful pop up cards (animated GIFs) of actual buildings in
     Makuhari. You can even download the patterns (pdf). He calls it Origamic
     Architecture.

Friederike

<hr size=1><b>do you yahoo!?</b>Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - <a
     href="http://mail.yahoo.de">http://mail.yahoo.de</a>.<br>Yahoo! Auktionen
     - gleich ausprobieren - <a href="http://auktionen.yahoo.de">http://auktione
     n.yahoo.de</a>.





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 15:41
Subject: Re: Folding Bone

----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>

> Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH> sez
>
> >I bought a folding bone
>
> Arggh - dead animal alert! Can I suggest trying a plastic alternative?

> Nick Robinson

As long as the animal was road kill, I have no problem with dead animal art.
I've found numerous bones of dead critters in the woods that I've used for
projects, I tried to make all of them respectful to the dead animal
(whatever the heck that means). The most obvious form of dead animal art is
a well prepared meal (non-vegetarian, that is), so I can't really begrude a
folding bone. I prefer burnishing stones myself, but let's face it--I'm just
plain weird.

All the best - c!!!
everyone accepts "the illusion of reality", but you're crazy if you talk of
"the reality of illusion"
ella-mae@msn.com





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 15:50
Subject: Re: Architectural Origami

Hello Friederike and welcome to the origami list!  How long have you
been folding and what do you like to fold?
Are you part of a folding community in Germany?

I was able to access Origamic Architecture in Makuhari with this URL:

http://www.remus.dti.ne.jp/~anjo/mor10e.htm

Dorothy





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 15:58
Subject: Re: Folding Bone

>----- Original Message -----
>From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
>To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>
>> Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH> sez
>>
>> >I bought a folding bone
>>
>> Arggh - dead animal alert! Can I suggest trying a plastic alternative?
>
>> Nick Robinson
>
>As long as the animal was road kill, I have no problem with dead animal art.
>I've found numerous bones of dead critters in the woods that I've used for
>projects, I tried to make all of them respectful to the dead animal
>(whatever the heck that means). The most obvious form of dead animal art is
>a well prepared meal (non-vegetarian, that is), so I can't really begrude a
>folding bone. I prefer burnishing stones myself, but let's face it--I'm just
>plain weird.
>
>All the best - c!!!
>everyone accepts "the illusion of reality", but you're crazy if you talk of
>"the reality of illusion"
>ella-mae@msn.com

Well it's better than eating a chicken leg, and saying oh look a folding
bone.  Boy that's funny I knew you could wetfold with water, but I didn't
know you could wetfold with grease.

David





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 16:09
Subject: Re: NO?

Marion Riley wrote:
>
>   Anyone out there doing anything in architectual origami or pop-up
> paper engineering?
>
>      Marion  L. Riley lll
>
> e-mail welcome

Hello,
        I've dabbled! Mainly I use the books by Masahiro Chatani which I used
mainly to work out how to do it. Another good book full of projects and
examples is Paul Jackson's 'Pop-up book'. Some of the stuff in there is
amazing.
        For purely technical info, 'Paper Engineering for pop-up books and
cards' by Mark Hiner is probably as good a source as any.

        You've got me hooked again! I'm going to go away and make some cards!

                                        Dennis.





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 16:09
Subject: Re: NO?

Marion Riley wrote:
>
>   Anyone out there doing anything in architectual origami or pop-up
> paper engineering?
>
>      Marion  L. Riley lll
>
> e-mail welcome

Hello,
        I've dabbled! Mainly I use the books by Masahiro Chatani which I used
mainly to work out how to do it. Another good book full of projects and
examples is Paul Jackson's 'Pop-up book'. Some of the stuff in there is
amazing.
        For purely technical info, 'Paper Engineering for pop-up books and
cards' by Mark Hiner is probably as good a source as any.

        You've got me hooked again! I'm going to go away and make some cards!

                                        Dennis.





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 16:17
Subject: Re: Folding Bone

Christopher Holt indited:

+I prefer burnishing stones myself, but let's face it--I'm just plain weird.

I know one other person who prefers stones. I'm curious to know if you have a
size/shape preference. What I like about a folding bone/stick is that is has a
small surface area, so it doesn't "drag" as much as a stone. At least not as
much as the ones I've tried, albeit briefly.

+everyone accepts "the illusion of reality", but you're crazy if you talk of
+"the reality of illusion"

-Daddy-o "Remember, your focus determines your reality." D'gou





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 16:21
Subject: Re: NO?

Dennis Walker indited:

+        I've dabbled! Mainly I use the books by Masahiro Chatani which I used
+mainly to work out how to do it. Another good book full of projects and
+examples is Paul Jackson's 'Pop-up book'. Some of the stuff in there is
+amazing.
+        For purely technical info, 'Paper Engineering for pop-up books and
+cards' by Mark Hiner is probably as good a source as any.

I haven't seen Mark Hiner's book, so I can't comment on that. I will second
(and third and fourth) the praises of Jackson's "The Pop-up Book." Jackson's
book goes into the mechanics of pop-ups, so that you can learn how to make
your own. Most of the other books on making pop-ups merely give you patterns
to copy.

Which you prefer depends on your goals.

-D'gou





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 16:47
Subject: Re: Folding Bone

----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>

> I know one other person who prefers stones. I'm curious to know if you
have a
> size/shape preference. What I like about a folding bone/stick is that is
has a
> small surface area, so it doesn't "drag" as much as a stone. At least not
as
> much as the ones I've tried, albeit briefly.

I try to hunt for something that has at least one long, delicate edge. Some
sea-shells work nicely as well, but it's near impossible to smooth down
shell edges to be able to shape paper without some damage. Many stones are
surprisingly uselfull, especially if you take the time to note how many
faces of it can be suited toward different needs. For manipulation deep
inside a folded complex, I often just unfold, clarify the folds in the
danger area, and recollapse the model until it does what I want it to do, or
I give up and let it do what it has in mind, which often works well, also.

> +everyone accepts "the illusion of reality", but you're crazy if you talk
of
> +"the reality of illusion"
>
> -Daddy-o "Remember, your focus determines your reality." D'gou

I'm hip to that tune, cool cat, it's just the Herberts of the world can't
groove to my jumpin' jive, they ain't hep to what I'm puttin' down, canya
dig?

All the best - c!!!
everyone accepts "the illusion of reality", but you're crazy if you talk of
"the reality of illusion"
ella-mae@msn.com





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 17:01
Subject: Sv:      Re: NO?

Apropos Pop-up-technique

There is a beautifull book by Ramin Razani
published by Augustus Verlag , Augsburg, Germany
"Faszinierende Grusskarten"
ISBN 3-8043-0352-8

Apart from several models in the style of Chatani
there are some very interesting geometric models.

Greetings
Thoki Yenn





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 17:08
Subject: Sv:      Re: Folding Bone

I have very often used an ordinary metal spoon
to flatten folds with several layers.

Thoki Yenn





From: Beth Francis <bfrancis@CWIXMAIL.COM>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 17:25
Subject: Re: Folding Bone

I prefer one from the polar bear.

Beth





From: David Whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 17:33
Subject: Re: [NO] Folding Bone

On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Doug Philips wrote:
> -Daddy-o "Remember, your focus determines your reality." D'gou
>

A clear sign of too much Star Wars.

David





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 17:39
Subject: Sv:      Re: Architectural Origami

I just found out that I have another book by Ramin Razani
also published by Augustus Verlag, Augsburg, Germany
ISBN 3-8043-0236-X

There is a fine model with rotating circles when you open
the card.  I got one of these from Ramin Razani
when I met him in England at a BOS Convention some years ago.

Thoki Yenn
www.thok.dk





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 18:03
Subject: Sv:      Re: Architectural Origami

Kalmon here to handle this mess:

I am sorry - I just found out that the old geezer
 forgot to write the name of the book

So here is repeat performance:

He just found out that he had another book by Ramin Razani
the title was obviously too difficult for him to write:
"Phantastische Papierarbeiten"
Yes, also published by Augustus Verlag, Augsburg, Germany
ISBN 3-8043-0236-X

There is a fine model with rotating circles when you open
the card.  He got it from Ramin Razani
when he met him in England at a BOS Convention some years ago.
Ramin Razani has sent him the two books.
You can probably get them from
Silke Schreder, Viereck-Verlag
 salzundpfeffer@t-online.de

Greetings from
The Great and Glorious Kalmon of the North
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From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: 22 Aug 1999 19:48
Subject: $bills

To elaborate on Anna's message, I enquired of the Treasury and the Federal
Reserve about the designs of a new dollar bills - after all it affects our
craft. I learned that a new $5 bill will be out some time next year. A new $1
coin will be issued (not Susan B. Anthony). The $1 bill will not be
redesigned, but eliminated.  Both agencies are definitely mum as to when. I
get the impression that the current supply will be eased out as quickly as
possible, subject to public uproar and acceptance.  As with all U.S. currency
any $1 note will continue to be legal tender.

Happy Money Folding and all best from Florence.
