




From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:52:40 -0700
Subject: modular origami info?

As I put aside my ring with a couple new units attached to it I have to ask
a couple modular origami questions:

1. I saw a spiral top octagon box (or hexagon, I didn't count the sides) on
Doug Philips origami page and I was wondering if anyone knew what book that
was from.  I'm addressing it to all since there was alot of question marks
by the creators' names in that gallery.  (to Doug Philips: neat pictures1
you need to put up the Kawasaki shell since you've been folding it, maybe
you can start a Kawasaki gallery!)

2. You know how many of Brill's modular models are folded from non-square
paper:  What paper is good to use for these models?  That's hopefully as
colorful and neat as kami.

I respect several replies because I have a feeling that many of you prefer
modular origami for some odd reason over cool animals.  I might be
mistaken, but certainly there is alot of people on this list who do modular
origami.

Thanks!

David





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:52:48 -0700
Subject: Re: New threads

>----- Original Message -----
>From: Sandra P Hoffman <ghidra@CONSCOOP.OTTAWA.ON.CA>
>
>>(Being a vegetarian, I only butcher paper animals.)
>>
>I Fold out of butcher paper (sometimes), so I feel it's just destiny
>fulfilled when one of those gets butchered. It's fun stuff, and you can get
>fairly wide rolls of it.
>
>> I also start dreaming folding sequences if I fold frequently
>> enough. I like those dreams>
>
>How about folding dream sequences? Create models in your sleep. Origami
>inspiration on tape, that you listen to while unconscious. I think we'd have
>a market for that. All the best - c!!

Didn't Patricia Crawford design her unicorn from a dream?

David





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:00:59 -0700
Subject: Re: 2" paper:  folds that work well

----- Original Message -----
From: Emmajg <origami@CHOCOLATE.CUSTARD.ORG>

> After reading about making a k. rose I think I will give it a go!!
>
Moi aussie. What book is it in again? Are diagrams available on the web?
Have I humiliated myself by admitting I've never done this fold that
everbody on the list has been discussing since before continental drift came
about? All the best - c!!





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:47:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Member News for The Paper

Dorothy Engleman indited:

> Welcome, Debra to the Paper.  We all look forward to your enterprising
> new 6 issues per year schedule.

6? I thought it was just 4, which is what I recall from the convention, though
I also recall a hint of trying to go to 6...

> But a two day deadline notice for the submission of membership news?

My reaction as well, though I suspect that is just due to getting the ball
rolling. Once The Paper is back to a regular schedule, I wouldn't expect such
surprises...

-D'gou





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:21:09 -0400
Subject: New threads

all the best!!-c wrote:

>'m starting to feel guilty that this thread has
>spun off of a bad joke that I posted on another thread some days ago.

I'm going to start quoting entire messages and sending them in MIME format
if we all can't move on soon. Anyone out there FOLD anything today?

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <LOKICORP@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:28:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [NO] dogmatism in pronouncing words from other languages inenglish

Message text written by Origami List
>That's an interesting one. I say "about" to rhyme with "out". But some
Americans claim that I'm saying "aboot". Of course, I hear some of them
saying "abaaaut" (or something like that).<

        In Colorado, there's a town called Pueblo, which most people would
(correct or not) pronounce "Pweb-lo."  But the natives and nearby residents
insist on pronouncing it "Pee-ebb-luh."  Of course, if everyone pronounced
words, English and foreign, properly, then the capital of Iowa would be
"Day mwanh," not "Deh moynz," the town of Pierre, South Dakota would be
"Pee-ehr," not "Peer," and there would be the "him-AHL-ya" mountain range
in Asia, not the "HIM-uh-LAY-uh" range.

        The official language of the USA?  It's "What did you say?"  ;-D

                _,_
           ____/_\,)                    ..  _
--____-===(  _\/                         \\/ \-----_---__
           /\  '                        ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

                     Jerry D. Harris
                 Fossil Preparation Lab
          New Mexico Museum of Natural History
                   1801 Mountain Rd NW
               Albuquerque  NM  87104-1375
                 Phone:  (505) 841-2809
                  Fax:  (505) 841-2866
               102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:45:48 -0400
Subject: Believe it or don't

 Jerry Harris wrote:

>Of course, if everyone pronounced
words, English and foreign, properly, then the capital of Iowa would be
"Day mwanh," not "Deh moynz," the town of Pierre, South Dakota would be
"Pee-ehr," not "Peer," and there would be the "him-AHL-ya" mountain range
in Asia, not the "HIM-uh-LAY-uh" range.<

Up heah in New Hampsha, there are two neighboring towns- Berlin and Milan.
Prior to WWII they were pronounced the same way as the places for which they
were named(albeit with a New Hampshire accent).
During the war, however, public sentiment being what it was, their
pronunciations were changed to BER-lin and MY-lan, which remain in use
today.
Jeezum, is this fascinatin' stuff or what?

I should fold something.

Scott scram@landmarknet.net





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <LOKICORP@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:11:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Pop-eyed Ichthyosaurs?!?

Message text written by Origami List
>Okay - before I fold myself into a corner - is it or isn't it pop-eyed?<

        I don't study ichthyosaurs, so I can't say with 100% certainty, but
ichthyosaurs ought to be about as pop-eyed as birds.  Their eyes can't be
flat in their heads, like most fish, because many ichthyosaur specimens
have sclerotic rings -- those bony rings that one sometimes seees in the
eye socket in some fossil specimens and which are embedded within the
eyeball.  While no one is 100% certain what these are for, they seem to be
both for overall eye support as well as to give the eyeball a slight
asymmetry -- the eye is "squeezed" towards the outside, so it _does_
protrude a tiny bit; presumably, this is to give a better view in front of
the long snout.  Numerous birds have the identical structure, as do many
dinosaurs; it's pretty easy to look at your average bird (like a parrot)
and see how much the eye protrudes, and use that as a basis for how much it
sticks out in ichthyosaurs.

                _,_
           ____/_\,)                    ..  _
--____-===(  _\/                         \\/ \-----_---__
           /\  '                        ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

                     Jerry D. Harris
                 Fossil Preparation Lab
          New Mexico Museum of Natural History
                   1801 Mountain Rd NW
               Albuquerque  NM  87104-1375
                 Phone:  (505) 841-2809
                  Fax:  (505) 841-2866
               102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:22:59 -0400 (
Subject: Re: [NO] dogmatism in pronouncing words.            e...

If there is one thing that has come out of this intensive argument, it is
that paperfoders  are much more interested in pronunciation than in grammar.

Is it because grammar is analogous to the geometry and crease patterns of
paper folding while pronounciation corresponds to the artistry of our folding?

If so, I find it surprising, because I always felt sure that whatever lip
service we may pay to exquisite folding, we are really interested in Origami
because of the fascination its dynmic geometry.

Perhaps we really ARE origami artists and not mere technicians after all!

David Lister





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:31:42 -0700
Subject: Re: the book that ...headin'east...thanks, etc...

----- Original Message -----
From: Emmajg <origami@CHOCOLATE.CUSTARD.ORG>

> the k. rose is in origami for the connoisseur by kunihiko kasahara &
Toshie
> Takahama
> ISBN0-87040-670-1
>
A thousand thanks, and thanks to everybody who gave me great suggestions for
places to check for paper back east, and I'll be back in two weeks(no doubt
to the dismay of all) and Scarecrow, I think I'll miss you most of all. All
the best - c!!





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:48:24 -0400
Subject: Where we pay attention.... (was: (presumed) dogmatism in pronoun...)

David Lister, pondering this thread, indited:

> Is it because grammar is analogous to the geometry and crease patterns of
> paper folding while pronounciation corresponds to the artistry of our folding?
>
> If so, I find it surprising, because I always felt sure that whatever lip
> service we may pay to exquisite folding, we are really interested in Origami
> because of the fascination its dynmic geometry.

I would make a different analogy. "Pronounciation of words" to "steps in a
model" and "Grammar" to "overal model structure/geometry."

I think it is not a question of craft versus art, but rather a matter of where
and to what extent, we pay attention to models.

For example, posters to this list often ask for help in completing models, or
certain steps in models ("pronouciation"). Very little is made mention of the
underlying structure of a model: "Why are the feet on so-and-so's model so
yucky?" OR "Why use a double rabbit ear and what else could you use instead?"

Origami is often a self-taught activity, but even when taught it is usually
done with a focus on the details (there isn't much choice for a beginner
anyways). I know there have been a few classes at OUSA conventions on the
topic of creating models, I don't know if such things are done at other
organizations meetings/conventions.

-D'gou





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:03:19 -0400
Subject: Re: modular origami info?

david whitbeck indited:

> 1. I saw a spiral top octagon box (or hexagon, I didn't count the sides) on
> Doug Philips origami page and I was wondering if anyone knew what book that
> was from.  I'm addressing it to all since there was alot of question marks
> by the creators' names in that gallery.  (to Doug Philips: neat pictures1
> you need to put up the Kawasaki shell since you've been folding it, maybe
> you can start a Kawasaki gallery!)

It was a octagonal box. Most of the question marks are due to the fact I can't
read Japanese, so I can't give proper model title or creator credits. In some
cases I can't even remember anymore where I saw the diagrams!

I need to cleanpu and revamp my gallery pages. Easier it is to create a page
than to maintain it. ;-)

If I keep a Kawasaki Shell long enough to photograph it, maybe I will put
images up on the web.

-D'gou





From: BTStern <btstern@BUFFNET.NET>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:29:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Tanteidan "Newsletter"

I would like to know more about this publication also...thank you

Beth
Have a Bob Day
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/index.html

----- Original Message -----
From: Emmajg <origami@CHOCOLATE.CUSTARD.ORG>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Tanteidan "Newsletter"

> How can I get hold of this??
> i.e. how do I subscribe?
>
>
> Emma Jane Griffiths
> http://chocolate.custard.org
> Mobile/SMS: 07971 083069
> Fax: 07977 016307
> ICQ: 790863





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:04:55 -0700
Subject: Re: New threads-->Mette Rings location of URL

For those that want the site for the free diagrams:

http://www.mette.pederson.com/Ring1Diagram.htm

Why is it that assembling the units is always the hardest part?

David





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:18:22 -0700
Subject: Re: New threads-->Mette Rings location of URL

Thanks for the URL to the diagrams, David, and to Mette for sharing her
art!

Origami Mummy...and be careful how you pronounce Mummy!





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:18:24 +0100
Subject: post-its (BOS)

Mark and Theresa <mark@HOBBITON.FORCE9.NET> sez

>Join the BOS for details! (Nick will give you the info for the website,
>won't you Nick?)

Oh go on then..

BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!





From: Faye Goldman <FayeG@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:56:54 -0400
Subject: Re: New threads-->Mette Rings

david whitbeck wrote:
>
> I am folding the Mette ring that's up on her site for free!  It rocks!  How
     did she think of such a simple unit that makes such a neat ring!

I learned it at convention and am also hooked.  I've made several out
of the Korean 2" and given them away.  Now I'm working on the Super
18 ring version, and have 2 requests!  I'll probably be making them
until I'm bored.

Faye





From: BTStern <btstern@BUFFNET.NET>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:23:46 -0400
Subject: Re: New threads-->Mette Rings

could you link me to that site please?

Beth
Have a Bob Day
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/index.html

----- Original Message -----
From: Faye Goldman <FayeG@IX.NETCOM.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: New threads-->Mette Rings

> david whitbeck wrote:
> >
> > I am folding the Mette ring that's up on her site for free!  It rocks!
How did she think of such a simple unit that makes such a neat ring!
>
> I learned it at convention and am also hooked.  I've made several out
> of the Korean 2" and given them away.  Now I'm working on the Super
> 18 ring version, and have 2 requests!  I'll probably be making them
> until I'm bored.
>
> Faye





From: Torsten Drees <torsten.drees@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:16:54 +0200
Subject: Re: misspelling "origami" and Multilingual Jokes

I'm not an expert of any language,
but i love such discussions.

(and the jokx)

Torsten





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:33:31 +0200
Subject: Re: [NO] dogmatism in pronouncing words from other languages inenglish

Stop the pissing contest, the origami's getting wet.

Matthias





From: Emmajg <origami@CHOCOLATE.CUSTARD.ORG>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:52:24 +0100
Subject: Re: 2" paper:  folds that work well

I've made a daffodil using 2 inch -ish size paper very fiddley I admit I had
to use a toothpick to make it.
http://chocolate.custard.org/origami/daffodil.html

After reading about making a k. rose I think I will give it a go!!

happy folding
Emmajg*
Emma Jane Griffiths
http://chocolate.custard.org
Mobile/SMS: 07971 083069
Fax: 07977 016307
ICQ: 790863





From: Eric Andersen <ema@NETSPACE.ORG>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:02:14 -0400
Subject: asserting linguistic superiority

On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Joseph Wu wrote:

>Despite the fact that English so easily incorporates non-English
>words, Anglophones should beware asserting linguistic superiority by
>butchering these borrowed words.

Hmmm...I would guess that most of these Anglophones are not butchering
these borrowed words on purpose, and thus I would not claim that they are
asserting anything with their mispronunciations. How did we all learn the
pronunciation of the word "origami"? Probably not in the same fashion as
most other English words, I would think. Perhaps we heard the
pronunciation from a teacher and copied it, or saw it in a book at an
early age and pronounced it as best we could. If there was no one to
correct us when we were incorrect with our pronunciation, how can we be
expected to pronounce it correctly, or even know what the correct
pronuncation is?

Well, we could look it up in the dictionary. Can we trust an
English dictionary to give a proper pronunciation for these
non-English words? Interesting, my dictionary says that "origamis" is a
word, referring to objects made with this technique. I have always
disliked this term (as would Joseph, I think), as it seems to be yet
another example of over-anglicizing. I like "origami models" or
"origami pieces" much better.

-Eric :-P
origami@netspace.org

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From: Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:26:21 +0100
Subject: Characters

I have just designed an Origami 'Big Bird', the Sesame Street character. I
would like to distribute the diagrams, or have them on sombody's web site
but the character itself is not my own so would I be breaching copyright?
There are plenty of star wars models to be found and I am sure that they are
shown without permission from George Lucas. Is this because the internet has
a different set of rules or is deemed to be safer than publishing in paper
form?

I have E-mailed the Children's Television Workshop to get permission to use
the characters (I have also designed an Oscar the Grouch and Cookie
Monster). I will let the List know if I get any feedback from them.

Any thoughts anyone?





From: Emmajg <origami@CHOCOLATE.CUSTARD.ORG>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:42:41 +0100
Subject: Re: Tanteidan "Newsletter"

How can I get hold of this??
i.e. how do I subscribe?

Emma Jane Griffiths
http://chocolate.custard.org
Mobile/SMS: 07971 083069
Fax: 07977 016307
ICQ: 790863





From: Doug and Anna Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:02:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [NO] dogmatism in pronouncing words from other languages in english

>It's a different story for new words imported from another language. There's
>an external reference to how the word is pronounced. If, given that
>reference, a person is still unable to say it properly, fine. If, however,
>they just can't be bothered, then there is an attitude of colonialism and
>"imagined superiority" at work.

External reference?  Hmmm... I learned to say origami from other Americans
or by sounding it out, back in my home town of 350 people of mixed European
descent, 45 miles from the nearest larger town, with one television
channel, and only one daylight radio station.  The nearest thing I had to
an external reference was the dictionary.  I don't want to throw garbage on
the screen by trying to reproduce the phonetic symbols, but mine definitely
shows a schaw on the second syllable, a light accent on the first, and a
heavier on the third.

Clearly, you have external references that are better than mine.  But how
many of us have Japanese speakers available?  To expect people to do better
than the dictionary seems a bit excessive.

There is a limit to the amount of knowlege any person possesses.  Most will
learn the word from someone else.  And if that someone mispronounces it?
Well, despite much goodwill, sometimes cultural mistakes happen.

Anna

Anna Weathers, Portland, Oregon, USA
"In paradox truth."





From: Emmajg <origami@CHOCOLATE.CUSTARD.ORG>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:11:40 +0100
Subject: the book that K.rose is in [was  Re: 2" paper:  folds that work well]

the k. rose is in origami for the connoisseur by kunihiko kasahara & Toshie
Takahama
ISBN0-87040-670-1

Emmajg*
Emma Jane Griffiths
http://chocolate.custard.org
Mobile/SMS: 07971 083069
Fax: 07977 016307
ICQ: 790863
----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: 29 July 1999 23:00
Subject: Re: 2" paper: folds that work well

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Emmajg <origami@CHOCOLATE.CUSTARD.ORG>
>
> > After reading about making a k. rose I think I will give it a go!!
> >
> Moi aussie. What book is it in again? Are diagrams available on the web?
> Have I humiliated myself by admitting I've never done this fold that
> everbody on the list has been discussing since before continental drift
came
> about? All the best - c!!





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:00:38 -0700
Subject: Re: accents

----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
>
> Regional diversity is one of the joys of a country and should be
> encouraged!
>
> all the best,
>
> Nick Robinson
>
I agree wholeheartedly. My choice to learn to speak without an accent was
out of a greater love for the tonal niceties required to truly give each
sound credit. I love the accent that I grew up with, and it sometimes
surfaces when I get passionate about a topic. However, appreciation for
being able to make sounds, or mimic accents is an equally great passion
(I've always wanted to do improv). I guess it is that I suffer from a love
of all accents equally. When I'm back home, I'm sure I'll lapse for a bit. I
wasn't advocating that others do what I've done, I wouldn't even wish my
decisions in life on me, in retrospect. You make a good point, thanks. All
the best - c!!!





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:38:59 -0700
Subject: Re: accents

Despite becoming part of the diaspora, I  have retained my New York
accent and will cheerfully offer free lessons to any paperfolder who
wishes to sound like most of the OrigamiUSA Board members.

Lesson One:  I want to loin to tawk like a New Yawker.

Dorothy





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:53:27 -0700
Subject: Re: accents

----- Original Message -----
From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
.
>
> Lesson One:  I want to loin to tawk like a New Yawker.
>
> Dorothy

Pahk it, sistah, no one wahnts ta tahk like-ah New Yahkah.
:-)
All the best - c!!!





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 04:58:36 +0800
Subject: Re: Pop-eyed Ichthyosaurs?!?

Okay - before I fold myself into a corner - is it or isn't it pop-eyed?

Regards.

Jerry D. Harris wrote:
>
> Hi All -
>
>         What is the basis for ichthyosaurs being pop-eyed?!?
>
>                 _,_
>            ____/_\,)                    ..  _
> --____-===(  _\/                         \\/ \-----_---__
>            /\  '                        ^__/>/\____\--------
> __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
>
>                      Jerry D. Harris
>                  Fossil Preparation Lab
>           New Mexico Museum of Natural History
>                    1801 Mountain Rd NW
>                Albuquerque  NM  87104-1375
>                  Phone:  (505) 841-2809
>                   Fax:  (505) 841-2866
>                102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:43:19 +0800
Subject: Re: modular origami info?

david whitbeck wrote:
>
>  I might be mistaken, but certainly there is alot of people on this list who
     do modular
> origami.

Is anyone on the list able to provide some history on the development of
modular origami? It seems - to me -  that the name and form it takes
today is of fairly recent origin. By that, I mean that modular origami
was not known by that name and hardly to be found during the heyday of
Robert Harbin, or the origami books of 1970s vintage.

One of the earliest examples of multi-piece assemblies I can recall is a
Jack Skillman Christmas ornament, which had to be stuck together. There
were also a few wreath-like decorations constructed from multiple pieces
of paper or cigarette boxes which were quite popular among the Chinese
in Singapore in the 50s and 60s. But these were not referred to as any
type of origami (or its Chinese equivalent), nor were the six-piece,
kusudama-like assemblies of that period.

I should mention that I do enjoy modular origami on the side, although I
confess to a very biased preference for animal and other living/once
living subjects, constructed from ONE (1) sheet of paper.





From: "JacAlArt ." <jacalart@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:23:20 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Tanteidan "Newsletter"

Unfortunately, the Tanteidan web site (http://origami.gr.jp/index.html)
doesn't give much info about joining. The Gallery Origami House
(http://www.remus.dti.ne.jp/~origamih/eindex.html) has an address, but
that's it. When I joined, I just sent $20(US) and my address to them and
I've been receiving the newsletter for about 3 or 4 years now. I think the
cost just went up to $40. The most current mailing info I have for them is:
Origami Tanteidan
1-33-8-216 Hakusan
Bunkyo-ku Tokyo
113 Japan
That's how it's written on their return address label. Hope this helps.
~Alec
http://members.home.net/jacalart/origami.htm

>I would like to know more about this

_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com





From: "Wu, Sonia" <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:33:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Plethora of Paperfolders

On Wednesday I attended a sort of spur-of-the-moment reunion of old
family friends and was delighted to learn that one of the children
(about 8 years old, maybe) does a bit of paperfolding.  In a quiet
moment I asked her if she could show me what she can fold from memory
and she was happy to comply.  I responded with a Kasahara peacock (from
Origami Made Easy), then we folded the waterbomb together.  I made her a
flapping bird, and we later folded a four-unit Fuse box together.  We
traded e-mail addresses so that she can get book recommendations.

Off to work the following day on only three hours of sleep and thinking
I would be too tired to enjoy Origami Club that night.  Our usual
turnout is about three people (including myself).  Seven people!  Two of
them brand new folders!  Three of them new to the group!  We folded
Michael LaFosse's Alexander's Swallowtail (taught from memory, based on
his remarkable video), and then started on a Fuse heptagonal box (a
beautiful model, but not the best thing for beginners).  Much-needed
pizza break between the top and body of the box. Suspect at least two of
the new folks will return at least  occasionally.

Despite the fact that the meeting ran from about 5:30 to 9:00, I was not
too tired to enjoy Origami Club after all--group folding is so
invigorating! Mind you, it took a very large Diet Coke to get me through
my hourlong commute home. . . .

Sonia Wu
Sarasota, Florida





From: DonnaJowal@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:50:14 -0400 (
Subject: (NO) Accents

Nick Robinson wrote:

 "This saddens me. Over in England we are under constant threat from the
two types on English....As a result, my own children have started to sound
like they are from another part of the country, instead of using (and being
proud of) our
own wonderful Yorkshire accent."

You've reminded me of a poem, that I will probably misquote, by the 20th
Century American poet Charles Olsen,

"Whatever you have to say, leave the roots on, and the dirt, let them dangle,
so everyone can see where they came from..."

Donna Walcavage





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:56:34 +0100
Subject: accents

Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM> sez

>I've tried to divorce myself of any
>remnant of accent

This saddens me. Over in England we are under constant threat from the
two types on English that dominate our TV - the "Queens" english, as
used by newsreaders and the "Sub-Cockney" accent as used by Kids
presenters, Eastenders & most Cop dramas.

As a result, my own children have started to sound like they are from
another part of the country, instead of using (and being proud of) our
own wonderful Yorkshire accent.

Regional diversity is one of the joys of a country and should be
encouraged!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Kimberly Shuck <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:07:16 -0700
Subject: Re: accents

Nick Robinson wrote:
> I remember Michael Shall telling me that New Yorkers are more polite -
> for instance, a driver cut up in Chicago would lean out the window &
> shout; "Hey! Asshole!" whereas a polite New Yorker would should "Hey,
> What are you - an asshole?"

A musician friend of mine tells about playing Lakhota drum music in New York
during the 40s. Someone observed to him, "Ya have psds." Trying to be cool he
said, "Yes but I'm taking medicine for it." He says it took him a decade to
figure out that psds was pierced ears as said in New York.

Kim





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:12:57 -0400 (
Subject: Re: [NO] Accents

I was determined not to keep on  joining in the Non-Origami Discussions, but
it's just another of my addictions where I am failing hopelessly.

In the UK, most people make a distinction between country and regional
accents (such as Zummerzet, Devon, Sussex, Yorkshire and various Scottish and
Welsh accents) and the city accents (such as Birmingham, Liverpool, Cockney,
Manchester, Geordie (the Newcastle area) and (dare I ever say it?) Sheffield.)

It is generally thought that country and regional accents are more attractive
than the city accents which re considered to be debased pronunciations. (They
are usually an undistinguished mixture of other accents which developed as
people flocked to the cities from other places during the 19th Century.).
Rather like the New York accent.

So much for British people's opinions of their own accents. But a survey was
recently conducted among people from OUTSIDE the UK, presenting to them a
variety of both country and city accents. The overseas people made no
distinction between the country and the city accents, but found them all
equally attractive (or equally obnoxious.) So it seems that British people,
probably for nostalgic and romantic reasons, are prejudiced in favour of
country and regional accents. (I shall probably get it in the neck for
describing Welsh and Scottish accents as "regional", but I hope you
understand what I mean.

Speaking personally, I cannot stand the pseudo-London accent mentioned by
Nick, which is technically known as "Estuary" among linguists (referring to
the area surrounding the Thames Estuary.) All over the whole of England,
lower, middle and upper class young people (if it is politically correct to
talk in such terms) affect the "Estuary Accent", one of the most notable
features of which is the total elimination of the letter T. Another tendency
is to replace "th" as in "With" with an F or a V sound. It has been forecast
that at the present rate of spread, "Estuary" will become the normal way of
speaking in England, during the first half of next century.

"Received Pronunciation" (BBC English), (often misnamed "Standard English,"
which properly refers to the structure of the language, not to its
pronunciation) and upper class accents are something different again. Upper
class accents are 'tribal accents", which help the members of the "upper
class tribe" to recognise each other and to exclude non-members. There are
different upper class accents for a variety of different, often mutually
exclusive, upper class tribes. Nothing is simple,.

"Received Pronunciation" is quite different from this, though it my appear to
have class connotations. Middle class people (and those aspiring to become
middle class) adopt Received Pronunciation for economic as well as snobbish
reasons, because a  local city accent can limit the area in which one can be
employed. It is fact that at one time, a well- known chain of chemists (drug
stores) classified prospective employees according to their accents. Those
with a strong city accent were restricted in the parts of the country in
which they could expect to be employed, whereas someone who spoke with
Received Pronunciation could be employed anywhere.

Strangely, these prejudices did not and do not apply to Scottish, Welsh or
Irish accents and they apply less to traditional regional accents like those
of the West Country or Yorkshire than they do to city accents.

The adoption of Received Pronunciation is often confused with the need for
clarity of speech, but that is another matter. Unfortunately many people with
city and regional accents are apt to speak in slurred way, and undoubtedly it
adds to  a misconceived prejudice against such accents. But regional and city
accents, like any other accent, can and should be spoken with clarity.
Language of any kind is for communication and any accent should be  means of
communiction

Finally, the Grimsby accent is wholly undistinguished, whereas the
Lincolnshire accent is one of the most delighful in the country.

David Lister.

Grimsby, Lincolnshire,
England





From: Mike Kanarek <kanarekorigami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:15:34 -0700 (
Subject: Re: Prisoner in Texas requires origami pen pal.

I have written James and can not tell you how much I appreicate the
connection.
I have been working with the Bruderhof who have been helping to make people
aware of the fuitilness of the death penilty.
They have a community in england; are you farmilir with them?
They are an important part of my journey and I teach origami there at times.
Writing new article about what I have been up to since last writing.
Money leaves next week.
  Best Mike Kanarek

_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com





From: Mirjam Van Vroonhoven <mirjamv@THEOCHEM.KUN.NL>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:30:41 +0200
Subject: Re: 2" paper:  folds that work well (and instruction trivia)

Hi all,

I wanted to send this message already yesterday, but i had some troubles in
changing my mail from one computer to the other. I hope it is fixed by now.

>>I recently bought a pack of 2" paper as an impulse purchase.  I've never
>>worked with anything smaller than 4" paper and I'm wondering what are good
>>folds to try with paper this size.

I really admire all the people that can fold difficult models like T-rex from
this very small size of paper. I cannot do that....

I recently bought the book "Unit Origami, multidimensional transformations" by
Tomoko Fuse, on modulars.

In this book there is a chapter on modular origami with slits in the modules,
to which then all kind of ornaments can be added. A lot of these ornaments are
made of squares half or quarter the size of the original module.

You can use your 2" paper for the ornaments, if you use standard 4" paper for
the modules of the cube.

These things are really nice when you make them using different colors of
paper. I think that i will save some of them for in my christmas tree.... it
looks nice all the bright colors in midwinter.

This saves you the cutting of the larger squares in smaller ones.

Bye,

Mirjam van Vroonhoven
mirjamv@theochem.kun.nl





From: Andrew Daw <andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:39:03 +0100
Subject: Re: Pop-eyed Ichthyosaurs?!?

Oops, looks like I started another cross Atlantic translation problem.
When I said 'bug-eyed' I really mean large eyed.  The pictures I have seen
have shown Ichthyosaurs with relatively large eyes compared to the head size.
The modern day Dolphins (sitting in the same evolutionary niche ?) have much
smaller eyes in comparison.  But now you mention it I guess they would also
appear to have bulging eyes too :)

Again I was too hasty in my previous reply and should have elaborated more
by saying that 'I' do not have any diagrams for a model.  I am only just
starting out in the designing process and was contemplating designing an
Ichthyosaur.  I have been studying the designs of dolphins and other fish
(Origami Sea life - The Barracuda is not far off) to glean some ideas but
it hasn't got any further than that.  Joseph Wu's Great White Shark has
a fair number of the required qualities too (at least the correct number of
fins).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Origami Mailing List [mailto:Origami@MIT.Edu]On Behalf Of Jerry D.
> Harris
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 10:12 PM
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: Pop-eyed Ichthyosaurs?!?
>
>
> Message text written by Origami List
> >Okay - before I fold myself into a corner - is it or isn't it pop-eyed?<
>
>         I don't study ichthyosaurs, so I can't say with 100% certainty, but
> ichthyosaurs ought to be about as pop-eyed as birds.  Their eyes can't be
> flat in their heads, like most fish, because many ichthyosaur specimens
> have sclerotic rings -- those bony rings that one sometimes seees in the
> eye socket in some fossil specimens and which are embedded within the
> eyeball.  While no one is 100% certain what these are for, they seem to be
> both for overall eye support as well as to give the eyeball a slight
> asymmetry -- the eye is "squeezed" towards the outside, so it _does_
> protrude a tiny bit; presumably, this is to give a better view in front of
> the long snout.  Numerous birds have the identical structure, as do many
> dinosaurs; it's pretty easy to look at your average bird (like a parrot)
> and see how much the eye protrudes, and use that as a basis for how much it
> sticks out in ichthyosaurs.
>
>
>                 _,_
>            ____/_\,)                    ..  _
> --____-===(  _\/                         \\/ \-----_---__
>            /\  '                        ^__/>/\____\--------
> __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
>
>                      Jerry D. Harris
>                  Fossil Preparation Lab
>           New Mexico Museum of Natural History
>                    1801 Mountain Rd NW
>                Albuquerque  NM  87104-1375
>                  Phone:  (505) 841-2809
>                   Fax:  (505) 841-2866
>                102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: Andrew Daw <andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:58:59 +0100
Subject: Other Hobbies

I know this is a late reply, but here goes:

My major "hobby" is Butterflies (and Dragonflies). It puts origami
in the shade.  Origami is just a hobby ;)

I am an active member of the British Butterfly Conservation Society.
I am on the committees of two branches.  I am a field trip organiser
for one and branch newsletter illustrator for the other.
I am also record the butterflies I see when I am out and about to
contribute to the Societies distribution and population monitoring
scheme.  I also take photos of butterflies for
personal use and for giving talks.  I also make paintings and drawings
of butterflies, but I never seem to have much time for that side as I
would wish.

My ambition is to create origami models of all the British Butterflies
(around 60 species) with their diversity of shapes and sizes.  This is
quite a challenge as most origami butterfly models I know represent
(quite stylised in some cases) the larger more showy species that are
more common in the US.

Andrew





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:30:31 -0700
Subject: Re: Plethora of Paperfolders

An eight year old girl has an email address!?  I'm impressed, she is
connected!  If I don't find a Davis origami club soon I'll have to start
one.  Does anybody who has started a club have any advice on the subject?





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:53:57 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Tanteidan "Newsletter"

In a message dated 7/30/99 7:25:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jacalart@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

<< Unfortunately, the Tanteidan web site (http://origami.gr.jp/index.html)
 doesn't give much info about joining. The Gallery Origami House
 (http://www.remus.dti.ne.jp/~origamih/eindex.html) has an address, but
 that's it. When I joined, I just sent $20(US) and my address to them and
 I've been receiving the newsletter for about 3 or 4 years now. I think the
 cost just went up to $40. The most current mailing info I have for them is:
 Origami Tanteidan
 1-33-8-216 Hakusan
 Bunkyo-ku Tokyo
 113 Japan
 That's how it's written on their return address label. Hope this helps.
 ~Alec
  >>

The new membership to JOAS (Japan Origami Academic Society), formerly known
as Tanteidan, is as stated above.  With your membership, you will receive six
issues per year (published bi-monthly).  The cost of $40.00 US can be sent to
Origami House (address above) by international postal money order which you
can purchase at your local post office.

OR, you may mail me a US check for the amount of $40.00 and I will give Mr.
Yamaguchi the equivalent in yen when I see him on August 14th.  If you are
seriously interested in becoming a subscriber, I will need to forward to Mr.
Yamaguchi the following information:

Your full name, mailing address, e-mail address, fax no., sex, age,
occupation, hobby, any additional comments or questions.

I hope this helps answer any questions you might have regarding subscription
to the JOAS monthly publication.

Sincerely yours,

June Sakamoto





From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:11:24 -0400
Subject: NO: Re: accents

Nick Robinson signs off with:

>email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
>homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda
syphons!
>BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/

What is the 'cheesypeas' all about, anyway? Is it another of Great Britain's
fine contributions to the culinary arts, such as eel pie or spotted dick, or
is there more to the story?

Scott www.organicgranola@everymeal.urp





From: italic <italic@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:15:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Prisoner in Texas requires origami pen pal.

> I have written James and can not tell you how much I appreicate the
> connection.
> I have been working with the Bruderhof who have been helping to make
people
> aware of the fuitilness of the death penilty.
Money leaves next week.
-------------------------
Not sure in what sense you mean the death penilty is fuitil.  Do you mean
that if a serial murder(ess) is put to death, he or she is still a risk to
society and is going to continue to go on killing sprees even though the
death penilty has been carried out?

I'm also wondering about the money leaving next week.  Could some be sent my
way?

James (not the one in Huntsville)





From: BTStern <btstern@BUFFNET.NET>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:48:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Tanteidan "Newsletter"

Wow...that's a steep price...but I guess it's like everything else you truly
enjoy...you have to pay for it

thanks for the info

Beth
Have a Bob Day
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/index.html

----- Original Message -----
From: <Foldmaster@AOL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Tanteidan "Newsletter"

> In a message dated 7/30/99 7:25:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jacalart@HOTMAIL.COM writes:
>
> << Unfortunately, the Tanteidan web site (http://origami.gr.jp/index.html)
>  doesn't give much info about joining. The Gallery Origami House
>  (http://www.remus.dti.ne.jp/~origamih/eindex.html) has an address, but
>  that's it. When I joined, I just sent $20(US) and my address to them and
>  I've been receiving the newsletter for about 3 or 4 years now. I think
the
>  cost just went up to $40. The most current mailing info I have for them
is:
>  Origami Tanteidan
>  1-33-8-216 Hakusan
>  Bunkyo-ku Tokyo
>  113 Japan
>  That's how it's written on their return address label. Hope this helps.
>  ~Alec
>   >>
>
> The new membership to JOAS (Japan Origami Academic Society), formerly
known
> as Tanteidan, is as stated above.  With your membership, you will receive
six
> issues per year (published bi-monthly).  The cost of $40.00 US can be sent
to
> Origami House (address above) by international postal money order which
you
> can purchase at your local post office.
>
> OR, you may mail me a US check for the amount of $40.00 and I will give
Mr.
> Yamaguchi the equivalent in yen when I see him on August 14th.  If you are
> seriously interested in becoming a subscriber, I will need to forward to
Mr.
> Yamaguchi the following information:
>
> Your full name, mailing address, e-mail address, fax no., sex, age,
> occupation, hobby, any additional comments or questions.
>
> I hope this helps answer any questions you might have regarding
subscription
> to the JOAS monthly publication.
>
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
> June Sakamoto





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:16:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Tanteidan "Newsletter"

First off, June: Thanks for posting the newsletter info!

BTStern, regarding the US cost of the Japanese Tanteidan Newsletter (put out
by JOAS), indited:

> Wow...that's a steep price...but I guess it's like everything else you truly
> enjoy...you have to pay for it

Actually, if you weren't also paying for delivery (international mail) it
would be less money. But not less valuable.

Even with the cost of international mail, at 6 issues a year, with color
glossy photos and multiple diagrams per issue, I think it is a fair price. I
don't know if they will continue to offer the $30/year option where you
receive several issues at once in a few number of mailings...

ORU magazine, which was obtainable in the US for about $40/issue (plus or
minus $5, I can't recall anymore), was underpriced and sadly has gone out of
business. I hope JOAS and the new newsletter/magazine has a long and fruitful
life! It makes a very nice complement to the NOA magazine which is about the
same quality, has simpler models (usually), and costs twice as much/issue. NOA
magazine comes out monthly, so they might have higher overhead costs as a
result too.

You are right about valuing those things which you enjoy. I think origami has
survived a long time as an undervalued "activity." Long enough that many now
think it is not undervalued.

-D'gou





From: Bob Stack <Noobob@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:25:46 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Member News for The Paper

Joseph is correct that the 2 day notice for "The Paper' is,  shall we say,
limiting but there will be 6,  I SAY 6, issues a year which comes to, and I
assure you my math is correct because I checked with my toes, an issue every
2 months.  If it is of interest send it in.  If you miss the deadline why you
are a bit early for the next.
    Side note to Joseph-------We need models for the book especially simple
ones but models of all kinds.  You should be included.  The deadline is
around the corner but you models are always welcome.
    Side note to everyone else.  We are, as always, looking for new models.
We seek models of all degrees of difficulty and from two kinds of creators,
first timers and veterans.                                         Bob Stack
                                            Publications
                                                OUSA





From: BTStern <btstern@BUFFNET.NET>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:28:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Tanteidan "Newsletter"

I guess you're right about the cost being worth it...

I do pay 40$ a year for a Bob Dylan magazine...LOL

Beth
Have a Bob Day
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Coffeehouse/9109/index.html

----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Tanteidan "Newsletter"

> First off, June: Thanks for posting the newsletter info!
>
> BTStern, regarding the US cost of the Japanese Tanteidan Newsletter (put
out
> by JOAS), indited:
>
> > Wow...that's a steep price...but I guess it's like everything else you
truly
> > enjoy...you have to pay for it
>
> Actually, if you weren't also paying for delivery (international mail) it
> would be less money. But not less valuable.
>
> Even with the cost of international mail, at 6 issues a year, with color
> glossy photos and multiple diagrams per issue, I think it is a fair price.
I
> don't know if they will continue to offer the $30/year option where you
> receive several issues at once in a few number of mailings...
>
> ORU magazine, which was obtainable in the US for about $40/issue (plus or
> minus $5, I can't recall anymore), was underpriced and sadly has gone out
of
> business. I hope JOAS and the new newsletter/magazine has a long and
fruitful
> life! It makes a very nice complement to the NOA magazine which is about
the
> same quality, has simpler models (usually), and costs twice as much/issue.
NOA
> magazine comes out monthly, so they might have higher overhead costs as a
> result too.
>
> You are right about valuing those things which you enjoy. I think origami
has
> survived a long time as an undervalued "activity." Long enough that many
now
> think it is not undervalued.
>
> -D'gou





From: "Wu, Sonia" <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:35:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Starting a local club

David Whitbeck asked about starting a local origami club.  David, if
you're based on the UC Davis campus--see if you can use somewhere on
campus to meet.  I work on a small college campus, New College of the
University of  South Florida, a liberal arts honors college with a
non-traditional academic program (end of commercial).  Anyway, the
counseling center closes at 5:00 and the director lets us use their
living room (which is used normally as a lunch room/break room and for
group counseling sessions).  I show up right at 5:00 and am responsible
for locking up afterward.

Our school has an activities fair for clubs and such to advertise their
presence and interest in new members.  I sat at a table with paper and
books and a signup sheet and talked and folded (it helps that my job is
in admissions--some of the new students knew me already).  On the signup
there was a space for students to indicate which nights would be best
for them to meet so I picked the night that was most popular.  Put up
lots of posters around campus with the models we were folding that week.
It's been advertised a few times in the student newspaper as well.

We meet every week, Thursday night at 5:30, unless I'm sick or out of
town.  Occasionally there are only two of us.  The biggest total number
was ten or twelve (rare, very rare).  Given the size of the room and
table, seven is the optimum large number.  An e-mail goes out to each
interested person every week as a reminder, along with info on what
we'll be folding.  Usually I teach two models per meeting, though anyone
is welcome to teach instead.  We stick to mostly intermediate models,
with the occasional simple piece.  It's a pretty informal setting, very
comfortable.  "Members" are a mix of students, staff, faculty, and folks
from the community.

We always leave some nice models on the reception desk as a thank-you
gift.  Most of my staff friends from various offices display origami on
their desks or computers, so there is a bit of natural advertising
happening.

That's how I got "my" group started!

Sonia Wu





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:45:34 +0100
Subject: Re: accents

Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET> sez

>Lesson One:  I want to loin to tawk like a New Yawker.

I remember Michael Shall telling me that New Yorkers are more polite -
for instance, a driver cut up in Chicago would lean out the window &
shout; "Hey! Asshole!" whereas a polite New Yorker would should "Hey,
What are you - an asshole?"

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:06:01 -0700
Subject: Re: Lampshades

At 20:47 99/07/30 +0200, Maarten van Gelder wrote:
>Did you have a look at my lampshades?
>See  http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models/furnitur/index.htm
>and  http://www.kvi.nl/~vgelder/origami/fototxt/lampshad.htm
>
>And I used a pyramid also as lampshade
>see  http://www.kvi.nl/~vgelder/origami/fototxt/pyramida.htm

No, I hadn't, but I have now. Thanks for the info. What I've been playing
with involves two very different approaches.

One is the crease pattern of equilateral triangles and squares that Tibor
Tarnai developed out of his studies of stress buckling. I've been talking to
a letterpress printer and we are considering making a printing plate with
that crease pattern. By running that plate on his press without ink, we can
score a piece of paper with the pattern so that it can be folded easily.

The other idea deals with the standard pleated table lamp shade (a cone
shape with the point chopped off). I've discovered a way of making the
pleats change direction halfway (valleys become mountains, and vice versa).
Others have played with this construction before (e.g. Biruta Kresling's
work), but it's usually used as a tessellation, not as a single
direction-change element. And I've never seen it on a lampshade before, either.

Anyway, with renovations proceeding on my new house, I'm planning ahead for
the interior lighting design. I plan to construct a number of table and
floor lamps using these lampshades for the house.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:16:20 -0700
Subject: Fuse origami boxes!

I'm curious what's y'all's favorite Fuse boxes book and why.  I know of
three in print in USA: Origami Boxes, Joyful Origami Boxes and Fabulous
Origami Boxes.  Is it just me or does it seem that Origami Boxes is a
proper subset of Joyful Origami Boxes?  I know that there is other boxes
books in print in Japan.  Is the single sheet book hard?  Keeping in mind,
that I simple paperfolder thought that Brill's box was hard until I ignored
his instructions and used the Conn.'s instructions.  Yeah for
origami!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David





From: Bob Stack <Noobob@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:49:56 -0400 (
Subject: Re: [NO] Accents

All of these discussions on accent leave out one point,  the most important.
We New Yorkers (even if  I now live in Massachusetts) speak correctly.  All
the rest are wrong!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, I am signing off for the next month and fleeing to Spain so have
fun.





From: Bob Stack <Noobob@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:56:59 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Prisoner in Texas requires origami pen pal.

Mike----If you noticed there was an item in this list re the need for member
news.  You might your article  to The Paper, OUSA's publication.  My own
interest in the topic stems from the fact that my son did a documentary
called "The Farm: Angola USA" in which they followed 6 prisioners for a year.
 One was executed, and one was actually released.  We are corresponding with
one of the prisoners.
                                                Bob Stack
PS I will be signing  off on Monday for one month.





From: Michie Sahara <michies@WESTWORLD.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:09:29 -0700
Subject: origami workshop

Masako Sakai and I will be a part of Origami Workshop at Cal State Long
Beach's Japanese Garden this Sunday August 1st. noon to 3pm.  For the
direction call 562-985-8885.  There will be about 10 origamists teaching
different models.  We will be teaching models from our book, "Origami:
Rokoan Style".
