




From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:04:09 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Origami Doll Making

On 20th July, Ana Waitekus  posted this query:

"I am new to this list as of today.  I am sorry if I am asking questions that
 have been answered in the past!

"I have been making origami dolls for several years now.  I have been
 choosing paper patterns and colors as I desire.

 "I would like to find out if colors are symbolic of anything or if patterns
 have significant meanings.  Does anyone know where I could find out about
 the tradition of origami dolls and information about paper patterns and
 colors when making these dolls?"

The same day,Julia Palffy of Swizerland wrote that she, too, would be
interested in any informtion concerning ane-sama-ninyo.

It is perhaps a coincidence that Ana joined the Origami List just two days
after I had posted an appreciation of Toshie Takahama, who died on 7th July.
I mentioned Mrs. Takahama's superlative skill and artistry, not only in the
field of classic origami, but also in creating the most magnificent paper
dolls.

I have been busy with other things during the past few days, but nobody else
seems to have written a reply to Ana.I do not pretend to be an expert on the
subject, but perhaps I can say a few words which may helpher and Julia.

Anna asks three questions:

!. Are colours symbolic of anything and do patterns have significnt meanings?

2. Where can information be found about the tradition of origami dolls?

3. Where can information be found about paper patterns and colours.

I have used Ana's own title for this posting, but perhaps it should be
pointed out that doll making of the kind to which she is referring is not
strictly "origami" or paper follding, since the paper is shaped and several
pieces of different kinds of paper are used in constructing each doll.
Nevertheleless, doll making is a closely related paper craft fullof japanese
character and tradition.

The subject of Japanese dolls in general is a vast one. They take many forms
and are made from many different materials ranging from wood and clay to
eggshells and leaves. They have a long and varied history and it is not
possible to go into detail about each kind. Nevertheless, they are all
inter-related and the varieties of dolls shade off into one another. To
obtain a quick idea of the range of Japanese dolls, look at the coloured
plate on page 293 of volume 1 of "Japan - An Illustrated Enclopedia"
published by  Kodensha. It is, however, far from complete. There are short
articles on Dolls and on the yearly Dolls Festival.

At one end of the scale, dolls are related to religious effigies. The very
word "doll" in English is cognate with the word "idol". At the other end,
dolls shade off into puppets and marrionettes, both of which have a rich
tradition of their own in Japan. Between the two, dolls accumulate much
symbolism of widely different kinds. But above all, dolls, ("ningyo" is the
word for doll in Japanese) have always been toys played with by little girls,
just as everywhere in the world. Dolls played with by girls may be as simple
as a couple of sticks tied together or as elaborate as artistically sculpted
china dolls richly clothed in expensive fabrics. As such they have little
symbolic meaning, apart from the symbol of a babies and motherhood and
playing at homes. But even little boys had their own dolls in the form of
samurai warriors corresponding with Action man in modern Western culture. (No
doubt Action Man is also supplanting Samurai dolls in modern Japan!)

I have searchd for instances of folklore symbolism for dolls, but I have
found little. Perhaps the best known instance is the origin of some kinds of
dolls as skapegoats. During the Heian period, on the third day of the third
lunar month simple dolls were made. By rubbing the dolls against their own
bodies, Japanese people transferred to them all their impurities and sins
which were cast away by throwing the dolls into the river or the sea. This
was not peculiar to Japan. the tradition is said to have come from China and
there were similar sorts of ceremonies in the West

It is thought that in part, the Dolls' Festival, or Hina Matsuri Festival
which is celebrted on 3rd March is partly derivd from this tradition. Little
girls display thier collections of dolls on a tiered shelf with the Lord and
Lady (usually they have  incorrectly becomeknown as  the Prince and Princess
or the Emperor and Empress) at the top and courtiers, musicians and guards on
the lower shelves surrounded by a more or less traditional collection of
lanterns, trees and household utensils. The little girls put on their kimono
and hold a party in front of the display of dolls. Rice cakes are offered to
the dolls (but eaten by the little girls!)

Amother folklore aspect of dols is know Teru-teru-bozu, literally, the Shine
Shine Doll. Perhaps the tradition has faded today, but in past times, if
Japanese chidren were going on a picnic they would make simple paper dolls
and hang them in trees in the hope that they would bring fine weather.
"Teru-teru--bozu, Please make it shine tomorrow", they sang. If it rained
instead, the Teru-teru-bozo was left to hang in the rain!

The Dolls' Festival probably developed a simple form as early as the Heian
period. The dolls which are used vary greatly and depend on the social status
of the family. Some early dolls were known as Kamibina and were stiff
standing dolls made by folding paper over a stick having a round knob for the
head. On the other hand, wealthy families would go to great ostenatation with
expensively mde and clothed dolls.  In later years the less well-off might
still make do with paper dolls, but the style changed. Paperfolders are
familiar with a traditional style of paper-folded  sitting dolls. Examples
are shown in the Kayaragusa of about 1845, but they resemble figures in
Chushingura Orikata of 1797. Michio Uchiyama designed many of these dolls and
they were collected together in a book by Naozo Ishimi published in 1931.
Usually, however, these dolls use cuts, so they do not meet with great
enthusiasm from modern paperfolders with their rule of "no cutting". Many
Japanese-language origami books have instructions for makeing these
traditional paper-folded dolls.

The style of clothing of Hina and other dolls has always reflected the dress
of the wealthy classes and a traditional craft has grown up of  making
exquisitely clothed dolls clothed in from rich paper. The actual framework of
the doll is very simple and no more than a head with a stick on which to hang
the clothes. Along with the stylish clothing, ways were found to crete the
elborate hair styles of past ages. Collections of these dolls were frequently
made and when they survive, they are very precious. This style of doll becme
known in the Tokyo area as "anesma ningyo". The words mean "elder sister
dolls", perhaps because they were not dolls for playing with by little girls,
but dolls to be displayed and admired by their elder sisters.

The making of anesama ningyo remains a popular pastime in Japan. There are
many books in Japanese giving instruction in the art. Papers are specialy
producd both for the clothing and for the hair and kits of everything needed
to make an anesama ningyo can be bought from shops. Of course, like
everything else articstic, much more is needed than the  kit and I hav never
dared to attempt to mke one! Two Japanese-language books have the English
subtitles "Origami Dolls: Representing Japanese Tradition" volumes One and
Two. (ISBN 4-8347-0457-2  and  4-8347-0693-1) I have often seen them in shops
in the West which sell origami books and they are probably still available.
They cover a wide varieyy of traditions, but are mainly practical instruction
books.

Although dolls may in part have their origin in foldklore and may, as such,
have had symbolic menings, dolls are not in general symbolic in Japan today
any more than they are in the West. Dolls a are for playing with or for
collecting or for displaying. Making them is a craft of a hobby. Sometimes
the creation of dolls may become an art.

An easily available and inexpensive book in English about Japanese dolls,
mainly about making an Anesama dolls is the little "Japanese Paper Dolls" by
Komaku Ishigaki in the Hoikusha Color Books series (ISBN 4-586-54032-X) It is
mainly about making dolls, but ther eis a little about early dolls  and there
are illustrations of a selection of Chiyogami papers used for making dolls..

Another book which is useful, because it deals with dolls from the point of
view of traditional customs is "Japanese Crafts and Customs, A seasonal
Approach" by Kunio Ekiguchi and Ruth S. McCreery: Kodensha, ISBN
4-7700-1687-5. This has an account of the Dolls' Festival and has sections
about several different kinds of japnese dolls. It calls the Anesama dolls
"Lady Dolls or "Shimada Dolls". there are also instructions for making more
elaborate Genjii Dolls, primitive "Standing dolls|"  and Eggshell dolls.

Fromt he point of view of the history of dolls and their primitive symbolism,
I have found a really scholarly bo k, "The Five Sacred Festivals of Japan" by
U.A.Casals (Charles Tuttle and Company,1967, no ISBN) to be very
authoritative and interesting. It may, however, be difficult to find.
U.A.Casal was a Swiss businessman who lived in Japan.

Ana asks about sth symbolism of colours.This is a very complex subject,
because colours can have a multiplicity of symbolic meanings in every
culture. Think, for instance what the colour green can mean in English. While
I have found a fair amount about colour symbolism in Chines culture, I have
found very little about the subject in Japan .This does not mean to say that
it did not exist, but it is not mentioned in the boks I have consulted.The
Japanese adopted much in their culture fromthe Chinese, so that in all
probability, much that applies in China probably also applies in Japan.

In Japan, white is generlly regarded as the colour of mourning. Nevertheless,
white also symoblises purity and virginity. Today, when many Japanese girls
marry at a Christian ceremony, clearly attracted by the traditional white
wedding gown, this aspect of the symbolism of white has increaed. At
traditional Japnese wedding ceremonies the bride is dressed not in white, but
in a gloriously and richly coloured kimono.

Although white is traditionaly the colour of mourning, the Japanese, like
westerners, usually wear dark colours at funerals. Nevertheless, only
yesterday I heard from Mrs Judith Legman that Mr Yoshizawa had sent her a
wonderful bouquet of white flowers to express his condolences on the death of
her husband Gershon Legman, who died earlier in the year.

Wheras formal envelopes used for gifts of money are strictly coloured in
black and white for funerals and sad occsions, fthose used for
congratualatory occasions are red and white or gold and white or red gold and
white. Red, as in the west is a virile colour expressing happiness, power and
celebration. I suspect,however, that all this has little to do with the
dressing of anesama dolls!

I have left until last the subject of the papers which are used in clothing
anesama dolls. These are "Chiyogami" papers and the making and printing of
them is another minor Japanese art form. Originally, patterned papers were
made by wood-block printing, but other techniques were adopted as mechanical
printing techniques were imported from the West in the 19th Century. The
variety of patterns is enormous and the designs are extremely varied, from
the exqisite and elegant to the frankly crude and bizaare; and with
everything, representative or abstract in between. There doesn't seem to be
any code of symbolism involved, beyond the symbolism of the pariular objects
used to make up the pattern in each paper, cranes perhaps or waves or
phoenixes or autumn leaves.Just as some Japnese collected dolls, others
collected Chiyogami papers.

The subject is dealt with in some detail in "The World of Chiyogami" by Ann
Herring who was born in Oregon, but who became a profssor at Hosei University
in Tokyo.The book was published by Kodensha in 1987 (ISBN 4-7700-1313-2).. It
is a delightful book containing some history, notes about printing techniques
and many coloured illustrations of fascinting examles of Chiyogami.

As I have mentioned, "Japanese Dolls" by Komako Ishigaki also contains
illustrations of Chiyogami patters. Other books which contain information
both about Japanese papers of every kind and about dolls are  "The Art of
Japnese Paper" by Dominique Buisson (Terrail, Paris, 1992, ISBN
2-87939-009-5) and "Papiers Japonais" by Francoise Paireau, Editions Biro,
Paris, 1991, ISBN 2-87660-110-9). For Japanese customs, see Mock Joya;
"Things Japanese". this remarkable book which is a window on Old Japan was
published in a one-voume edition by the Tokyo News Service,1960, but there
have been many earlier and later editions.

Like Origami, the subject of Japanese dolls is one of enormously varied and
fascinating interest. The two subjects wonderfully  overlap and complement
each other and will amply repay time spent on their study.

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





From: Andrew Daw <andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:29:09 +0100
Subject: Re: Recommended bat fold diagrams

Tom Hull's bat can be found on his home page at:
  http://chasm.merrimack.edu/~thull/bat/flapbat.html

Michael LaFosse's bat can be found on the Origami Interest Group site at:
  http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models/mammals/index.htm (PostScript
diagrams)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Origami Mailing List [mailto:jupalffy@bluewin.ch] On Behalf Of
> Julia P`lffy
> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 1999 7:57 AM
> To:   'Origami List'
> Subject:      RE: Recommend  [ O-books ] bats.
>
> Where can I find diagrams of those two models?
>
> TIA,
>
> Julia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Daw [SMTP:andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK]
> Sent: vendredi, 9. juillet 1999 11:00
> To:   ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject:      Re: Recommend  [ O-books ] bats.
>
> Michael LaFosse's "Happy Good Luck Bat" and Tom Hull's "Flapping bat"





From: Evi <d.evi.l@MUENSTER.DE>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:00:28 +0200
Subject: Re: origami sighting NYTimes Sunday magazine 7/18/99

>
> ALWAYS have paper (and/or paper money) if you are going out to eat.
Waitrons
> appreciate cash tips, and paper, especially origami paper, is just a
neat...

I'd like to give tips in form of folded bills, too. But the German waitress
isn't very happy about dollar bills.
Are there any models available, which are suitable for the German money, for
example 5,- or 10,- DM?
Please don't ask me about the size in inch. Math is not my favorite subject.
:o)

Happy folding!
Evi





From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:05:04 +0200
Subject: Re: Jorma in trouble?  (Re: YES-NO The Guide.)

On 20-Jul-99, Peter Budai (peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU) wrote:
>At 10:38 AM 7/19/99 +0200, Jorma Oksanen wrote:

>>As long as origami challenges don't mean I have to be able to fold it
>>too (Hi Peter!)

>Is that me, Jorma? Which model did you have trouble with? ;-)

Yup, it's you :)  Here's a part of my private mail to you on 25-Aug-98

PB>>Back to the original idea, recently I am looking for weird,
PB>> stunning ideas.

JO>How about an action trashcan, with a small pedal at the bottom,
JO>which when pushed will open the top.  (No, not many of my models
JO>end up there, but...)
JO>
JO>More cans: a spray can with "spray" popping out.
JO>
JO>2*can: a can-can dancer, pulling up her hem when bent down :)
JO>
JO>Can of worms.
JO>
JO>So, "can" you?

So, could you?

And as this isn't private mail, all creators feel free to test if you
CAN :)

--
Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

Weyland-Yutani - Building Better Worlds





From: Cathy <cathypl@GENERATION.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:26:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami Doll Making

At 01:04 PM 99-07-20 EDT, you wrote:
>Like Origami, the subject of Japanese dolls is one of enormously varied and
>fascinating interest. The two subjects wonderfully  overlap and complement
>each other and will amply repay time spent on their study.
>
>David Lister.
>

Thank you for posting your response to Ana to the list.  This is a whole
new world for me.  I had heard of the dolls, but had no idea there was so
rich a tradition.  I'm intrigued by the idea, I'll have to check out the
bookstores, thanks again!

                                                                CAthy
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:01:43 -0500
Subject: Re: origami sighting NYTimes Sunday magazine 7/18/99

david whitbeck wrote:
SNIP

> Is there anyone who actually memorizes a fold by simply doing it once (I'm
> talking about complex folds now, not something simple like a crane)?

Shucks I can't even remember how to fold my own models with out
using diagrams let alone some of the hard ones!!

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:32:11 -0700
Subject: Re: 1000 Cranes for Columbine H.S.

I've just received word from Dee Lynch of FOLD-Denver that if people
send her the cranes by the 26th of August, she will get them strung by
the end of August and will hopefully present them to the Columbine High
School students on September 1st.

If you'd like to contribute, 6 inch paper in blue (prints or solids) or
silver would be appreciated - blue and silver are the school's colors.
Dee requests that you identify from where you're sending the cranes.
Dee now has 500 cranes so f Your contributions at this late date would
be especially welcome.

Dee Lynch
1350 East Easter Avenue
Littleton, Colorado 80122

Thanks again!
Dorothy





From: sychen@EROLS.COM
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:34:21 -0800
Subject: Re: Sy Chen's Tea Set

Thanks for the great comments. I have not received enough requests
to move up its diagramming priority. So you have to either to
wait or to find some alternative.

Fold the best!

Sy Chen (sychen@erols.com)

--- Original Message ---
lwhitney <lwhitney@GATEWAY.NET> Wrote on
        Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:32:16 -0400
 ------------------
Thanks to everyone who shared pictures of models from the Origami
USA '98
Convention.  I recently viewed a Teapot and Teacups by Sy Chen
on Joseph
Wu"s web site and agree that they are classic and very beautiful.
 Are there
instructions for folding them?  I searched but did not find any
diagrams.

-----
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From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:39:34 -0400
Subject: Re: OUSA ordering

David asked-

>Does anybody know if anyone can order books from OUSA (such as Spirals I),
>or is it only members?

You can order without being a member, but your membership not only gets you
_The_ Paper_ , but a 10% discount on your orders. Not to mention entree into
fascinating political intrigue. Travel slush funds are only available to
board members.

Scott





From: zealous Fuse fanatic <origamifreak@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:53:55 -0400
Subject: Re: 1000 Cranes for Columbine H.S.

Any particular KIND of blue, or is any blue
acceptable?

anja

--- Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET> wrote:
> I've just received word from Dee Lynch of
> FOLD-Denver that if people
> send her the cranes by the 26th of August, she will
> get them strung by
> the end of August and will hopefully present them to
> the Columbine High
> School students on September 1st.
>
> If you'd like to contribute, 6 inch paper in blue
> (prints or solids) or
> silver would be appreciated - blue and silver are
> the school's colors.
> Dee requests that you identify from where you're
> sending the cranes.
> Dee now has 500 cranes so f Your contributions at
> this late date would
> be especially welcome.
>
> Dee Lynch
> 1350 East Easter Avenue
> Littleton, Colorado 80122
>
> Thanks again!
> Dorothy
>

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From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:30:59 -0700
Subject: Re: origami sighting NYTimes Sunday magazine 7/18/99

----- Original Message -----
From: Doug and Anna Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
>
> Is that the jack-in-the-box from Origami for the Connoisseur?  Do you have
> it memorized?  Do people memorize many models in general?  Complex ones?
>
> Anna Weathers, Portland, Oregon, USA
> "In paradox truth."

Actually the model I fold I found in Kenneways 'Complete Book of Origami',
I've no idea who the designer is. I have only a set of basic folds
memorized, except for the jack-in-the-box and Engel's heart with an arrow
through it (Valentine from Folding the Universe. I haven't had the
opportunity to pound out one of those on the spot, I'm saving it for just
the right occasion. Read: cold day in hell with my luck). However, I have
folded many jack-in-the-boxes for children, and they never cease to impress.
I used to have many more complex folds memorized, but then again, I used to
have an half dozen Shakespeare plays memorized--now I'm lucky if I can
recall the plot of Macbeth (easy--I just rerun Throne of Blood in my head,
that does the trick). Nice sign-off line you've got; I'm a firm believer in
paradox, much to the chagrin of many philosophers I end up arguing with, "P
and not P" just does not compute for them, and I get called irrational a
lot... All the best - c!





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:39:28 -0700
Subject: Re: OUSA ordering

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET>

> You can order without being a member, but your membership not only gets
you
> _The_ Paper_ , but a 10% discount on your orders. Not to mention entree
into
> fascinating political intrigue. Travel slush funds are only available to
> board members.
>
> Scott

Put that thread down and walk away from it!!! No fast moves or you're
history!! I would rather be boiled in poison oak resin and left sit in the
Death Valley sun than have to relive that experience...  :-)  (Just joking
(but not entirely)) - c!





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:03:01 -0400 (
Subject: Re Origami Doll Making

In my posting earlier this evening, I said that Ana Waitkus posted her
enquiry on 29th July.

This is one more demonstration of my dementia. It was not so.

In case anyone is trying to find Ana's posting, it was on 17th July, not 20th
July.

Yours in confusion, and with aologies,

David Lister.





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:10:37 -0700
Subject: Re: origami sighting NYTimes Sunday magazine 7/18/99

>Is that the jack-in-the-box from Origami for the Connoisseur?  Do you have
>it memorized?  Do people memorize many models in general?  Complex ones?
>
>I stick to simple things, like irises and starboxes, and Yoshizawa's
>(well-known) butterfly for tip origami.  And I had a lot of fun teaching a
>child who couldn't understand my speech how to fold Randlett's flapping
>bird on my recent vacation.  We gave each other thumb's up when he
>completed one himself.  Especially thrilling, since the first time I tried
>it, I messed up.  If I hadn't had a copy with me, I'm not sure we ever
>would have sorted it all out...
>
>Anna
>
>
>Anna Weathers, Portland, Oregon, USA
>"In paradox truth."

Me and folds:
As to memorizing folds: I have for my favorite models just because I've
folded them so much.  I imagine this is true for nearly everyone on the
list.  When I fold a model by the time I've folded it the third or fourth
time I'll have it memorized but forget it soon after I'm finished folding
it.

Is there anyone who actually memorizes a fold by simply doing it once (I'm
talking about complex folds now, not something simple like a crane)?

David





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:31:00 -0700
Subject: Memorizing models (was Re: origami sighting NYTimes Sunday magazine

At 16:10 99/07/20 -0700, David Whitbeck wrote:
>As to memorizing folds: I have for my favorite models just because I've
>folded them so much.  I imagine this is true for nearly everyone on the
>list.  When I fold a model by the time I've folded it the third or fourth
>time I'll have it memorized but forget it soon after I'm finished folding
>it.
>
>Is there anyone who actually memorizes a fold by simply doing it once (I'm
>talking about complex folds now, not something simple like a crane)?

I can, but only if I really like the model. Models get "un-memorized"
through disuse and as new models take their place. This is less of an issue
now as I fold more of my own models rather than those designed by others.

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From: "Margaret A. Rioux" <mrioux@WHOI.EDU>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:25:28 -0400
Subject: looking for a tshirt

At the recent convention, I saw a tshirt that I coveted - it said "We
Fold under Pressure" and was from a West Coast group. I would love to buy
one (even used) in XL or larger. As some may know, my husband and I are
divers and I'd love to have a picture of me in said tshirt folding
something underwater.
  Please reply to me directly not to the list. Thanks,
Maggie

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From: marty <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:51:15 -0700
Subject: Folding plastic bags

That tip on flag-folding plastic bags was really helpful. My wife has folded
all of ours and taught her daughter -- who now carries some in the car's
glove compartment.

-- Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 / Fax 805-965-2414 / email: mrcinc@silcom.com
Websites: <<Http://www.modelshops.com>> and <<Http://www.papershops.com>>
and <<Http://www.boxstar.com>>





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:05:11 -0700
Subject: Re: 1000 Cranes for Columbine H.S.

Hi Anja!

The high school colors are navy blue and silver.  So dark blue would be
preferable.  But if all you have is light blue paper, that should be
fine, too.

Thanks!
Dorothy





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:33:50 -0700
Subject: Wet Folding (Was looking for a tshirt)

Hi Maggie,

Please tell us more about your underwater folding adventures.

Dorothy





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:14:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Memorizing models (was Re: origami sighting NYTimes Sunday

Joseph Wu indited:

+I can, but only if I really like the model. Models get "un-memorized"
+through disuse and as new models take their place. This is less of an issue
+now as I fold more of my own models rather than those designed by others.

Is that because you remember the models you designed more easily, or just
because you fold them enough to remember them, despite the fact you designed
them? ;-)

-D'gou





From: Mike and/or Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:30:00 +0000
Subject: Re: Origami Doll Making

A site that has some instructions on doll/kimono making:
http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.html

Janet Hamilton





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:13:51 -0700
Subject: Re: Memorizing models (was Re: origami sighting NYTimes Sunday

At 20:14 99/07/20 -0400, D'gou dialogued:
>Joseph Wu indited:
>
>+I can, but only if I really like the model. Models get "un-memorized"
>+through disuse and as new models take their place. This is less of an issue
>+now as I fold more of my own models rather than those designed by others.
>
>Is that because you remember the models you designed more easily, or just
>because you fold them enough to remember them, despite the fact you designed
>them? ;-)

Both! I do remember my stuff better because I can follow the thoughts that
went into the design process. And I do tend to fold many versions of my
models as I tweak the details.

----------------------------------------------------------------
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t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:52:51 -0700
Subject: Re: OUSA ordering

At 02:39 PM 7/20/99 -0400, Scott Cramer <scram@LANDMARKNET.NET> wrote:
>>Does anybody know if anyone can order books from OUSA (such as Spirals I),
>>or is it only members?
>
>
>You can order without being a member, but your membership not only gets you
>_The_ Paper_ , but a 10% discount on your orders. Not to mention entree into
>fascinating political intrigue. Travel slush funds are only available to
>board members.

The discount part is true, but you can enjoy the "political intrigue"
safely as a bystander for free on this list (no membership required). As
for the "slush funds," as a board member, I feel out of the loop on this
one. Am I the last to know or something? After my glowing yearly review, I
will ask the executive commitee to  revisit my benefits package. Now back
to reality...

Marc





From: Doug and Anna Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:48:51 -0700
Subject: Re: Folding plastic bags

>That tip on flag-folding plastic bags was really helpful. My wife has folded
>all of ours and taught her daughter -- who now carries some in the car's
>glove compartment.
>
Yes, it was.  I have yet to get most of ours folded, but I was impressed
with the space savings.  They tend to pile up around the house, since they
are recyclable, but only at the supermarket, not at the curb, and I forget
to take them with me.

Anna Weathers, Portland, Oregon, USA
"In paradox truth."





From: Herman Lau <hlau@ARB.CA.GOV>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:39:21 -0700
Subject: Memorizing Models (Was Re: origami sighting NYTimes Sunday magazine

david whitbeck wrote:

> Is there anyone who actually memorizes a fold by simply doing it once (I'm
> talking about complex folds now, not something simple like a crane)?
>

  I think kids have a better memory for these type of things than adults.  They
can probably remember a sequence of folds on the first try and retain the info
longer.  For example, I borrowed Harbin's "Paper Magic" from the library when I
was in the fourth grade (in the late 50's) and kept the book until the 5th
grade.  I eventually folded every model in the book and inadvertently noticed
that I had also effortlessly memorized every model and could recall them months
afterwards.  I also clearly remembered that I could memorize a model after a
single folding including the last two models in the book, which was about the
most complex ones at the time.
At about that time, my parents had a visitor from Korea who stayed with us a
few days.  She was a school teacher in Korea and knew some origami that she had
learned from teaching in Korea.  When she found out that I was interested in
paperfolding she taught me several models that were completely new to me.
Again I remember easily memorizing them after the first folding and being able
to recall them months afterwards. (I don't remember what the models were except
for one in particular that really stood out in my mind and which I still have
never seen.  It was a Korean hat - a tall dome like hat worn by Koreans on
special ceremonial type occasions, perhaps like a national hat.  I remember it
being a really fun fold because it needed an inside out fold almost exactly
like the inside/out maneuver for the traditional "boat" or "sampan" model.  I
remember being very intrigued by the model and I've never seen it since.
Unfortunately, I've long ago forgotten how to fold it and the models I've
folded as a kid have long been gone.)  Anyways, the bottom line is that I find
it practically impossible to memorize a fold now (although about 6 or 7 months
ago I memorized Kirschenbaum's "Fluffy" only because it was such an addictive
and fun fold that I folded about 15 of them before I stopped. And now I
realized that I've forgotten how to fold it.)
I think when you're young you have less clutter and distraction on your mind
than adults and kid's lives are in general simpler and slower.

Herman Lau





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:02:17 +0200
Subject: Re: Memorizing models

Joseph Wu wrote:
>Both! I do remember my stuff better because I can follow the thoughts that
>went into the design process. And I do tend to fold many versions of my
>models as I tweak the details.

In an interview, Roger Glover of Deep Purple said that when they
re-formed a few years ago, they had to buy songbooks of their own songs
because they couldn't remember how to play them. They'd never written
the songs down themselves...

Matthias





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:07:47 -0700
Subject: Re: Folding Trivia

----- Original Message -----
From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>

>                 'No piece of square dry paper can be folded more than
seven times in
> half'
>
> That sentence can be interpreted in a number of ways, but I would prefer
> to leave the language and mathematical skills to anyone on the list who
> can decipher the intended meaning, or prove or debunk that statement.

Without unfolding, it can only be folded in half once, then you're
quartering, eighthing...you get my drift... All the best - c!





From: Howard Portugal <howardpo@MICROSOFT.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:14:29 -0700
Subject:

This really isn't origami, but it is kind of cool for those of us who ride
motorcycles.

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/papercraft/yzf-r1/index-e.html

Howard

Howard Portugal
Critical Problem Resolution - NT Escalation (CPR/NT)

* howardpo@microsoft.com
*Wk: 425/704-4078
*Pgr: Urgent V-Mail

What you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and
magic in it.

Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe





From: Howard Portugal <howardpo@MICROSOFT.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:30:49 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Sighting/Hearing

Please email me the diagrams, I'd love to see them.

Thanks,

Howard
howardpo@microsoft.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donna & Robin [mailto:robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 10:22 AM
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: Origami Sighting/Hearing
>
>
> > On a recent radio commercial for paint, one man , a Mr. Ben
> Theredonethat,
> > who isn't impressed by much, was being talked to by someone
> trying to tell
> > him about impressive things, one of which was a man who did Origami
> > sculptures of the Eifel Tower.  (To which Ben replied,
> "yeah, yeah he live
> > downstairs from me, so what".)
>
>
> If anyone is interested I have diagrams for an Eiffel Tower model.
> Appropriately it is a bit trick but if anyone is interested I
> will E-mail
> the diagrams.
>
> Robin Glynn.





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:01:26 -0700
Subject: Re: Folding Trivia

At 13:22 99/07/21 -0400, you wrote:
>The number of layers doubles each time you fold the paper.
>When you fold a sheet in half, you get 2 layers.
>When you fold the resulting paper in half, you get 4 layers.
>3rd fold results in 8 layers
>4th -> 16
>5th -> 32
>6th -> 64
>7th -> 128
>
>The theory is that no one can fold 128 sheets of paper. Paper creep, size,
>and  previous folds help to increase the difficulty of making additional
>folds after 4 or 5. I haven't heard the "square" or "dry" requirements
>before. I suppose you might have better luck with a strip of adding machine
>tape---thus the square. I suppose wet enough and with hammer, you could
>force in an additional fold.

Depends on your definition of "fold". I've managed 9 folds, if you can
believe it. Mind you, the last two "folds" are really "bends". Here's the
trick: if you do the 7 folds all parallel to each other, you end up with a
long "stick" of paper. This can be bent twice upon itself, making a total of
9 "folds". Whether or not this counts is up to you... (Oh, and I was working
with a standard 8.5 x 11 inch sheet of photocopy paper.)

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:11:46 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Sighting/Hearing

>> On a recent radio commercial for paint, one man , a Mr. Ben Theredonethat,
>> who isn't impressed by much, was being talked to by someone trying to tell
>> him about impressive things, one of which was a man who did Origami
>> sculptures of the Eifel Tower.  (To which Ben replied, "yeah, yeah he live
>> downstairs from me, so what".)
>
>
>If anyone is interested I have diagrams for an Eiffel Tower model.
>Appropriately it is a bit trick but if anyone is interested I will E-mail
>the diagrams.
>
>Robin Glynn.

Is it modular?  That wasn't the one in the McDonalds commercial was it (was
that computer generated or did someone actually fold it)?

David





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:19:30 -0700
Subject: paper!

I bought a new paper (for me) it's brown and corrugated with vertical
lines.  It's great for wetfolding and I wondered if anyone knew what kind
of paper it is?

When I was at old Sturmbridge Village last weekend I saw a printing press,
I asked the man working it how heavy the paper was since it looked thin.  I
was surprised: 55 lbs, now that paper is course!  What would be an average
weight for origami paper?  I would know it's less than 20 since it's much
thinner than xerox paper.

a note: on the top 10 models I mentioned Kawasaki's sea snail shell when I
meant the spiral shell.  I would definately have to add the rose to my list
now.

David





From: Cathy <cathypl@GENERATION.NET>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:11:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami Doll Making

Thank you, this looks like fun!
                Cathy

At 08:30 PM 99-07-20 -0000, you wrote:
>A site that has some instructions on doll/kimono making:
>http://www.geocities.com/~jaspacecorp/origami.html
>
>Janet Hamilton
>
>
>
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:59:02 -0700
Subject: Re: origami sighting NYTimes Sunday magazine 7/18/99

> Kenneway's book is actually called "Complete Origami" and the
Jack-in-the-box is a model by Max Hulme.
>
> Julia Palffy
> Zug, Switzerland
> jupalffy@bluewin.ch
>
Thanks for the info! I lose track of any origami book that purports to be
'complete'. I'll now be able to credit the designer!!--that was something
I've wanted to be able to do since I last lost a copy of Kenneway. All the
best - c!!





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:22:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Folding Trivia

> 'No piece of square dry paper can be folded more than seven times
>in half'

The number of layers doubles each time you fold the paper.
When you fold a sheet in half, you get 2 layers.
When you fold the resulting paper in half, you get 4 layers.
3rd fold results in 8 layers
4th -> 16
5th -> 32
6th -> 64
7th -> 128

The theory is that no one can fold 128 sheets of paper. Paper creep, size,
and  previous folds help to increase the difficulty of making additional
folds after 4 or 5. I haven't heard the "square" or "dry" requirements
before. I suppose you might have better luck with a strip of adding machine
tape---thus the square. I suppose wet enough and with hammer, you could
force in an additional fold.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: zealous Fuse fanatic <origamifreak@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:13:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Memorizing Models

--- Herman Lau <hlau@ARB.CA.GOV> wrote:
>   I think kids have a better memory for these type
> of things than adults.  They
> can probably remember a sequence of folds on the
> first try and retain the info
> longer.

You know, I think you may be right about that.

When I was 11 my brother's grandmother-in-law taught
me a napkin fold that looks like an elf shoe.
Actually she made me one and challenged me to figure
out how.  I learned it as I reverse-engineered it, and
have never forgotten it.  Maybe learning the language
of folds is easier when young for the same reasons
learning verbal languages is.

anja

(staying as youthful and exuberant as possible so as
to retain my learning abilities  ;-)
_________________________________________________________
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:25:22 -0600
Subject: Re: Folding Trivia

Ronald Koh wrote:
>
>
>
>                 'No piece of square dry paper can be folded more than seven
     times in
> half'
>
>

Sooo...  Those nasty little Robert Lang beetles, really DO need to be
wet folded!

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:46:57 -0600
Subject: NO: Papercrafts (was Re:  )

Howard Portugal wrote:
>
> This really isn't origami, but it is kind of cool for those of us who ride
> motorcycles.
>

Well it's a lot closer than the link between mammarals and the
mathmatics of worlds that sit on the backs of giant turtles.

> http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/papercraft/yzf-r1/index-e.html

Another great place for that sort of papercraft is:

http://www.paperparadise.com

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Rob Hudson <Oricon99@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:16:07 -0400 (
Subject: Turrets?

Am I to understand you have a way to put pyramids on top of cubes and lock
without glue??

BTW, this is Rob Hudson :)

Missed you this year-- it was a very low-key convention, despite the rumours
and expectations of mass conflict.

Rob





From: origami <listaori@JET.ES>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:07:05 +0200
Subject: help, information about classic noshi

Hello anyone:

I am president of Gaditano Origami Group, Our next Exhibition is about
     Traditional Customer in Japan, I need Information about Noshis, I am
     triying to get the book Noshi by Isao honda  , english version, but I
     don`t Know how to get it. And Sites on intern
 t about Noshis.

We need your help, I need models to our Exhibition, please visit my web to see
     last Exhibitions. Special thanks to peter budai, d Brill v. floderer, Mr
     Nakamura.

Fco Ignacio Molina Gomez
President of Gaditano Origami Group
e-mail:igmolina@jet.es
http://web.jet.es/igmolina





From: origami <listaori@JET.ES>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:09:56 +0200
Subject: how can get all membersips e-mail

Hello anyone:

I need a lot of e-mails from memberships, but I don`t know the correct command,
     can you help me?
and I need knoe what files are avaliable on the list, How can get It? thanks
     for your help. I am new on origami-l thought I start on origami since year
     1992, visit my web.

Fco Ignacio Molina Gomez
President of Gaditano Origami Group
e-mail:igmolina@jet.es
http://web.jet.es/igmolina





From: origami <listaori@JET.ES>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:13:59 +0200
Subject: Gaditano origami Group(now on the list)

Hello anyone:

At end We are on Origami-l . we have exhibitions 4 times a year, Special thanks
     to P. budai,D. brill, Mr Nakamura, Mr Nakajima, A,voyer, f. Gilgado etc..

We need your help, We need models to our next exhibitions, please visit my web
     to see last Exbition

thanks a million to Origami Family.

Fco Ignacio Molina Gomez
President of Gaditano Origami Group
e-mail:igmolina@jet.es
http://web.jet.es/igmolina





From: Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:22:15 +0100
Subject: Re: Origami Sighting/Hearing

> On a recent radio commercial for paint, one man , a Mr. Ben Theredonethat,
> who isn't impressed by much, was being talked to by someone trying to tell
> him about impressive things, one of which was a man who did Origami
> sculptures of the Eifel Tower.  (To which Ben replied, "yeah, yeah he live
> downstairs from me, so what".)

If anyone is interested I have diagrams for an Eiffel Tower model.
Appropriately it is a bit trick but if anyone is interested I will E-mail
the diagrams.

Robin Glynn.





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:08:56 +0200
Subject: Re: origami sighting NYTimes Sunday magazine 7/18/99

Kenneway's book is actually called "Complete Origami" and the Jack-in-the-box
     is a model by Max Hulme.

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:07:16 +0800
Subject: Folding Trivia

Spotted this bit of trivia in the 'Strange But True' page
(http://www.strangebuttrue.net/main.shtml):

                'No piece of square dry paper can be folded more than seven
     times in
half'

That sentence can be interpreted in a number of ways, but I would prefer
to leave the language and mathematical skills to anyone on the list who
can decipher the intended meaning, or prove or debunk that statement.





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:08:07 +0800
Subject: New Russian Origami Book

Hi, all:

I received a new (to me, at least) origami dinosaur book from Sergei
Afonkin a few days back. As I only came on this list in April, I'm not
sure if it has been mentioned here before. Please excuse me if it has,
but I thought I should share this in case it hasn't.

I don't know what the title is, as it is written in the Russian
language. I have written to Sergei for a translation.

There are ten origami dinosaurs in all, by folders from various parts of
the world, including Peter Budai:

1.      Velociraptor            -       by Elena Afonkina
2.      Carnosaurus             -       by Sergei Afonkin
3.      Tyrannosaurus Rex       -       by me (Singapore)
4.      Apatosaurus             -       by Hans Birkeland (Norway)
5.      Plesiosaurus            -       also by Elena Afonkina
6.      Elasmosaurus            -       by Yoshio Tsuda (Japan)
7.      Triceratops             -       by Peter Budai (Hungary)
8.      Iguanodon               -       by Eduardo Clemente (Spain)
9.      Bronthosauruslet (!?)   -       also by Sergei Afonkin
10.     A baby dino (cute!)     -       also by Hans Birkeland

Most of the models are in the intermediate complexity range, except
perhaps for my posturally questionable and eccentrically complex (as
usual) T-Rex. The diagrams are hand-drawn, a little sketchy, but quite
easy to understand.

I am also waiting for a reply from Sergei on its availability through
mail order, price, etc. Will keep you updated if anyone is interested.

Cheers.





From: marty <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:01:10 -0700
Subject: Re: paper!

50 pound paper and 20 pound paper are usually the same thickness. It depends
on the size of the sheet from which the "basis weight" was caculated. As an
ex professional printer -- I learned long ago to stick to thickness to
describe papers.

I decided this when I found out that 80 pound paper is thinner than 67 pound
cardstock.





From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:19:11 -0400
Subject: Modified Rose Brooch - a tribute to Takahama-san

I had done a minor variation of Takahama-san's Rose Brooch and the diagram
has been in my to-be-published folder for a while. After hearing the sad
news I decide to share it to everyone. The only variation from me is the
color changing. Here is the diagram:
http://users.erols.com/sychen1/Diagram/RoseBrch.pdf
It will stay in that site until I put it on Maarten van Gelder's origami
archive ftp.

PS: The original version can be found in The New Origami by Biddle.

Sy Chen (sychen@erols.com)





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:46:13 -0700
Subject: Re: Rabbit Request

Wasn't there also a model (I think by Fred Rohm) in an old origami book
folded from a 2x1 rectangle?  I remember folding it several years ago: one
square for the box folded like the traditional balloon and the other square
for the rabbit.  Does this sound familar to anyone?

David





From: Barbra0336@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 02:14:18 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Origami influence/quilts

One of the Japanese Quilt Magazines has a pattern for a couple of pillows
quilted with a crane on them.  I would share the title with you but it is in
Japanese.  Am interested in others you find.
Barbara, a folder and a quilter.





From: Barbra0336@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 02:52:24 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Toshie Takahama

Thanks to the many who shared their rembrances of Toshie Takahama with the
rest of us on the list but a special appreciation goes to David Lister for
the biographical notes, personal glimpses and the nice tribute he wrote.  Her
book, The Joy of Origami has been used more than any other in my library with
the 5 and 6 year olds I taught in school.  Barbara





From: Barbra0336@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:20:44 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Rabbit Request

Someone requested a rabbit connected to a hat for a play?  I inadvertently
pressed the delete key and lost the posting.
In the FOCA Convention '89 book on page 34 there is a rabbit in a hat by
Edwin Corrie.  Hope this helps.  Barbara Ortiz





From: Barbra0336@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:20:54 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Rabbit Request

I also have a rabbit on a box listed in my file index but cannot find the
diagram.  The folder is listed as the name Clegg???  Barbara O





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 04:58:25 -0700
Subject: Re: Rabbit Request

At 04:20 AM 7/22/99 EDT, you wrote:
>I also have a rabbit on a box listed in my file index but cannot find the
>diagram.  The folder is listed as the name Clegg???  Barbara O
>
>
Barb,

Try to find the book - Secrets of Origami by Robert Harbin.  There's a good
diagram of a magician's rabbit in there.  Ria





From: marty <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:01:18 -0700
Subject: Hooking Mom on Origami??

My 86 year old Mom is in a residential hotel for seniors in Point Pleasant,
New Jersey. She is in fairly good health -- except her eyesight is very,
very poor. She was very active, until her second husband died suddenly a few
years ago. In the past she knitted and did some crocheting.

She has now just about given up and has lost her zest for life. She does not
want to come live with me in California because she feels comfortable where
she is.

Has anyone out there had any experience where Origami was introduced to
seniors in a similar situation? Seems to me that it could be a pleasant
brain-challenging pastime.

Evidently some people can get addicted to Origami. It is unlikely -- but it
would be worth a try to see if we could get my Mother hooked. Does anyone
have any suggestions as to how I might go about giving this a try? My
Brother (a semi-retired biology teacher), his wife (an art teacher) and I
could raise some modest amount of money for lessons and the development of a
training course. She has a grandaughter who is studying art at Cooper-Union
and a daughter in Mass. who is a creative ex art teacher and illustrator.
These four could probably spend some time on the project, and I could
probably do something from here in California. We could probably keep track
of our efforts and if they were successful, we could afford to self-publish
a book on the subject of, "Origami Addiction for Seniors" -- or some such
title.

Is there a particularly good book that could be used? Any particular
projects? Any particular angles that you might suggest? Perhaps we could get
her producing cranes and flowers and airplanes that could be given away to
kids in local hospitals -- or something like that -- where others would
benefit by her work.

All suggestions are welcome.

-- Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 / Fax 805-965-2414 / email: mrcinc@silcom.com
Websites: <<Http://www.modelshops.com>> and <<Http://www.papershops.com>>
and <<Http://www.boxstar.com>>





From: Jennifer Campbell <CampbellJ@DFO-MPO.GC.CA>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:01:27 -0400
Subject: memorizing folds - a new twist

Hi everyone,

Speaking of memorizing folds, here's something that perhaps touches upon our
copyright bugaboo. . .

Has anyone ever done this, what I am about to confess. . . Back when I was a
starving student, even origami supplies were an expensive luxury by the end
of the school year. I saw an origami book in the store I would have loved to
have bought, but simply could not afford. I was captivated by one model in
particular. So I stood there and STARED at the diagrams and envisioned the
folding sequence in my head. Then I rushed out of the store and grabbed a
piece of paper and folded this model!

I "stole" an origami model!

Now, sadly, it is time I am short of, not money (well, I have enough money
to buy origami books, anyway). I buy origami books on sight and then wait
years to fold from them. My bookshelf takes up far more area than my
finished models. And I never did see that particular book again.

Jennifer.





From: "Wu, Sonia" <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:26:57 -0400
Subject: Re: memorizing folds - a new twist

The big chain bookstores in the US (Barnes & Noble, Borders, etc.), are
rather like shockingly lax libraries.  You can grab a book from the
shelf and just find somewhere to sit and fold (being careful not to
knock over your iced mochaccino in the process).  They don't even care
if you don't reshelve the book (well, the institution doesn't care but
the employees probably do).  You do need to use your own paper, but you
can (finally) buy paper there too.

As they plan, I have bought more books from them because of this!

Sonia Wu





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:29:34 -0700
Subject: Re: Hooking Mom on Origami??

Hi Marty!

When my late mother was a resident in a retirement home, she took great
pleasure in showing the family a picture frame she had made in an arts
and crafts workshop.

Many seniors in retirement homes enjoy the companionship of each other
in group recreational activities. Perhaps your family could teach some
of the residents, along with your mom, a class in simple origami. Or
perhaps there's a recreation director on the premises whom your family
could work with.

Some suggestions for teaching models would be utilitarian origami, such
as a picture frame, a vase, a purse or wallet and differently sized
boxes, or some decorative origami.

Your mom's poor eyesight may be a significant impediment to learning
origami. Perhaps some vision aid, such as a large magnifier on a stand,
could help your mom.

Dorothy





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:02:09 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Rabbit Request

In a message dated 7/22/99 7:44:49 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU writes:

> Wasn't there also a model (I think by Fred Rohm) in an old origami book
>  folded from a 2x1 rectangle?  I remember folding it several years ago: one
>  square for the box folded like the traditional balloon and the other square
>  for the rabbit.  Does this sound familar to anyone?
>
>  David

I think that's "That's Magic" out of Harbin's "Secrets of Origami" (was this
just recently reprinted by Dover, or is it still out of print?). After inking
in
features on the rabbit, and dots on the waterbomb cube it's standing on,
it represents a rabbit standing on a die (singular of dice).

Aloha,
Kenneth Kawamura
