




From: yellowhouse39 <yellowhouse39@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:44:10 -0600
Subject: Fitted sheets / garbage bags

Hi friends,

I wanted to share with you today thatI was able to fold a fitted sheet
succesfully after following directions I read on the list. Thank-you.
Previously I usually did what Doug Philips (I believe) suggested: take
the sheets from the bed, wash & dry them, put them back on the bed.

But this week I had some guests, so I had to buy an extra set of sheets.
After they left, guess what?  I had to wash and fold the sheets to put
them away. I think if I had not learned how to fold them as instructed, I
would have considered putting two set of sheets on my bed instead of
having to crump them into the closet :)

One thing I have being folding in order to save space, are the plastic
grocery bags I get at the supermarket which I keep for use as garbage
bags. At one point they where overflowing from the container under my
sink. An out of control situation. I did not want to throw them out and
fortunately  my sister taught me this easy trick:

- Place the bag on a table.

- Flatten and press out all the air.

- Fold in half lengthwise and then once again in a half, forming a long
narrow strip.

- Like folding a flag, start at the closed end of the bag folding
successive triangles.

- Continue folding triangles one after the other until you reach the open
end of the bag.

- Tuck the last flap into the pocket that is formed.

The result is a very compact little triangular pillow. I can fit twice
the number of plastic bags in the same container.

Best regards,

Leyla Torres





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:57:08 -0400 (
Subject: Re: How Mathematics Works.

Thanks to Lisa Hodsdon for putting me right. I hastily typed the name of the
publishers of this book as Dawber Kindersley.

The publishers are of course Dorling Kindersley and I made a mistake. Always
check your references!

In fact I know exactly how the mistake occurred..

Many years ago we had a firm of builders merchants (I don't know what such
people are called in North America, but here, they sell building materials
and bathroom equipment. The name of the firm was Dawber Townley. So obviously
my ageing memory neurones are getting their wires crossed .

Apologies,

David Lister.





From: Elizabeth George <emgeorge@MSN.COM>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:01:08 -0400
Subject: Re: laundry

>Laundry,
>after drying, is carefully piled upon a table or chair for as many days as
>necessary to cure a web-like design of pleat folds into its pattern,

Otherwise known as "wad and wear"





From: "Anathea B. Waitekus" <anaban@THECIA.NET>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:19:11 -0400
Subject: origami doll making

Hi Everyone,

I am new to this list as of today.  I am sorry if I am asking questions that
have been answered in the past!

I have been making origami dolls for several years now.  I have been
choosing paper patterns and colors as I desire.

I would like to find out if colors are symbolic of anything  or if patterns
have significant meanings.  Does anyone know where I could find out about
the tradition of origami dolls and information about paper patterns and
colors when making these dolls?

Thank you in advance for your help!
Ana





From: David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:24:34 -0500
Subject: [YEAH BABY]Actual Origami stuff

Well since I've folded such neat stuff and the streak had to end, so that I
could once again begin mangling paper.  I tried Lang's Praying Mantis and
not only was butchered but didn't have a clue on how to do that open sink
on step 51.  If it's possible to give anykind of explanation of what layers
I sink through, please someone try.  I ask this because well there are alot
of layers and once I opened up the tip I became confused and dismayed.

Next for the Orb Weaver: I actually didn't botch this up but I was
wondering why the valley folds to form the shape of the abdomen when you
can skip those and just mold and shape the abdomen at the end(and it would
look prettier in my opinion than valley folds), has anyone tried this?  I
feel like doing so but if anyone has and it didn't work let me know so that
I don't waste my time.

the pianist from the Complete Book of Origami: the diagrams were not as
clear as the new books are, so my floundering probably comes from doing
one/more of the folds wrong before step 32 and also it is difficult to fold
from a long piece of adhered typewriter paper (yes I'm that crazy/lazy) I
should have made tissue foil paper but given the price of tissue paper if
you don't buy from a craft store I decided to turn the artists adhesive on
the typewriter paper.  The result was ugly when I finished this model.  I
don't think I'll bother refolding it anytime soon.  At least the violinist
is easy and elegant, plays well and stands on his own!

Kawasaki Rose: As I know many of you have folded this rose countless times
and don't bother pretending that you haven't!  The very last step, step 15,
my rose doesn't want to do well.  Should I just keep refolding the model
until I can achieve step 15 or is there some trick (pure origami trick only
using hands please, and yes I'm eccentric) that someone has used that works
well?

Chambered Nautilus Shell: For those that have folded it (from Origami Sea
Life) step 22 takes how long for you experienced folders (and for those
inexperienced as well)?  I remembered pain when I folded that a few weeks
ago.  Also someone mentioned Fuse's Chambered Nautilus Shell (I don't
remember where) what book (if any) is it in?

Happy folding!!!!!!

David (yes I have a last name and I'll put it) Whitbeck





From: "Margaret A. Rioux" <mrioux@WHOI.EDU>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:15:48 -0400
Subject: Re: term for person who does origami

> Date:    Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:26:48 +0200
> From:    Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
> Subject: Re: term for person who does origami
>

How about origaminik. That manages Japanese and Russian (or maybe
it's Yiddish).
Maggie Rioux

> >Both "origamist" and "origamian" are acceptable.
> Both terms are neither Japanese nor English, but rather 'Jenglish' or
> 'Englanese', a mixture of both. But as far as I heard they've been used
> for several decades now in the english speaking world to describe
> paperfolders.

>
> Matthias
>

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From: Edward Crankshaw <ejcranks@HIWAAY.NET>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:44:46 -0500
Subject: Re Terry Pratchett

>  Ok, you got me interested.  I wasn't paying much attention to this thread
     about
> this series of books and I deleted the email already.  Could someone tell me a
> little about this author?

Terry Pratchett, English, prolific story teller and I would highly recommend to
anyone wanting a fun read even if you're not interested in fantasy. There's no
     real
D&D here.

> Are his books like Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker trilogy?

Not really. IMO, they parody the many cultures and people of Earth. They are
     quick
reads. He keeps things moving.

> Are they funny?

YES

>  Are they scifi?

No, fantasy

>  What book should I start with?

The earliest you can find except Strata. Strata is great but not indicative of
     the
series. The best stories IMHO are those with Rincewind, Two Flower and the
     luggage
(The Light Fantastic, et. al.). However, DEATH is hilarious to (Mort, et. al.).
     Oh
yeah, and Corporal Carrot of the watch.

>  Are they a continuing series?

Yes, and no. Same world and consistent characters but most can be read out of
     order
with little loss of continuity.

- Ed





From: Karen Reeds <reeds@OPENIX.COM>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:49:40 -0400
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI--short header

>
>Date:    Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:41:00 -0400
>From:    Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
>Subject: Re: [NO] re Headers, (meaning Footers.)
>
>Well, I tried to make this short and simple and the MIT computer
>bounced it back to me because it looked like a listserv command. So,
>I'm going to try to baffle said computer by starting out with a really
>wordy intro. Sorry to those of you who pay by the bit.
>
>To solve David Lister's problem, try this:
>
>send e-mail to
>
>listserv@mit.edu
>
>with the message
>
>set origami shorthdr
>
>This should eliminate most of the mysterious header information.
>
>Send e-mail to the same address and with the message "info"
>for more information on mail formatting options.
>
>Lisa
>Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: "Wu, Sonia" <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:21:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Fuse Chambered Nautilus

David Whitbeck asked about Fuse's Chambered Nautilus.  I think it's in
her first Spirals book (OrigamiUSA sells it as Spirals I), which has a
number of nifty shell models.  Last week I and a folding friend worked
through a diagram for a shell that has the spiral on one side but is
flat on the other.  I folded a more three-dimensional shell from another
diagram.

It's a great book.  If you have to choose between the two Spirals books,
I'd recommend the first.

Sonia Wu





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:28:39 -0400 (
Subject: Re: (NO) RE: term for person who does origami

"A term for a paperfolder like myself: the origami mangler. Watch out he'll
turn an otherwise beautiful model into a wrinkled up piece of paper!"

The exact opposite is possible. The Portuges/Dutch folder, Paulo Taborda
Barreto, who specilisies in origami tessellations crumples up paper. So far
as I understand his process, he then crushes the paper flat. This means that
it is forced into a natural, if irregular tessellation.

He then extracts patterns from the apparently random crease lines and
transfers them to his computer, where he multiplies them and uses them as the
basis for his extended tessellation patterns. Patterns that were flat in the
first place will fold flat again and can be mutiplied over an infinite plane.

Unfortunately, Paulo has yet to publish a book on this aspect of his work and
I learnt all I know about his folding by attending a class (more like a
lecture) given by him. But there is an article on other aspects of his
astonishing folding in Origami, Science and Art (The Proceedings of the
Second International Meeting of Scientific Origami.)

It is, frankly, a highly complex subject and if I am misunderstanding Paulo's
art, I hope that an expert tessellator will put me right.

On a lower level, I have a book called "Paper Twisting and Crumpling for
Infants and Younger Juniors by Gwen M. Paviere (Sir Isaac Pitman and Sons
Ltd., London, 1937).

Actually, it seems rather more sophisticated than its title would suggest,
but it does suggest that there is hope for those who do not aspire to the
precision of orthodox origami!

David Lister,

Grimsby, England.





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:24:32 -0700
Subject: Re: term for person who does origami

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Philips wrote:

>"Dances with Paper."
>
>-D'gou

I like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MASD





From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:52:20 -0400
Subject: NO: Can someone help Julia?

Julia Palffy jupalffy@bluewin.ch
is using Microsoft Outlook for Email, using MS Word to write
her email, and also uses a European (Swiss) keyboard/character
set.

I've tried to help her setup her software so she doesn't
send MIME, HTML or other garbage to the mail list, but wasn't
entirely successful. I was still getting each paragraph
as a long line at the last attempt, but now it seems to have
gotten worse, since today's post is entirely garbage,
whereas before it was a text message with a few character
codes, with a formatted version MIME encoded attached
as a file (obligingly forwarded verbatim by the listserver,
a large block of garbage.)

Can some Microsoft Outlook & Word guru out there (preferably
also knowledgeable about European keyboards) please help
Julia solve this problem? She really would like to stop
inflicting the garbage on everybody, and we've had other
Outlook users with the same problems.

Valerie Vann
(who views Outlook as another form of Microsoft originated virus)





From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:52:21 -0400
Subject: YES NO

NO in the subject line stands for "Not Origami", short
for "this message is Not Origami related in subject matter".

Some people can only put short subject lines in email, so
in the interests of informative subject lines, so it is better
to put the code or flag on unrelated subjects.

Valerie Vann





From: DMAWolf@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:08:51 -0400 (
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Terms & Conventions

Hi All.
  Although I use the term origamist most of the time on occasion when a model
is not going well I am more of a paper mugger.
  For all of you who wished they had gone to OUSA after reading the reports
the next US convention is in Seattle Washington, August 13-15.  Not to late
to sign up and Montroll will have his new book there.
  For more info http://www.eskimo.com/~orca/index.htm
  You are approaching geezerhood when you are no longer saving that wonderful
paper for when you get old and have time to fold it, but look at it and think
I'd better use this up or the kids will have to deal with it.
D Ma Wolf
Diana Wolf





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:06:28 -0700
Subject: 1000 Cranes for Columbine H.S.

I'd just like to remind everyone that there's still time to fold cranes
for the Columbine High School students who are recovering from the
murders and bombing at their school last spring.

Dee Lynch, who is the Affiliate News Editor for the OrigamiUSA
newsletter, lives in Littleton, Colorado and will be coordinating this
effort. The cranes will be presented to the students when they return to
school at the end of August.

If you'd like to contribute, 6 inch paper in blue (prints or solids) or
silver would be appreciated - blue and silver are the school's colors.
Dee requests that you identify from where you're sending the cranes.

Dee has received 300 cranes so far. Your contributions at this late date
would be especially welcome.

Please send your cranes to Dee by the second week in August the latest.

Dee Lynch
1350 East Easter Avenue
Littleton, Colorado 80122

Thanks everyone.
Dorothy





From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:12:11 -0400 (
Subject: No Headers

When I want to print out an e-mail I print it out page by page. For example,
If it's a short message, the latter part of the header would usually appear
on a second page. As I am only printing page 1, this second half does not
print out - and saves paper and ink - and time. Maybe everybody does this
anyway.

All best from Florence.





From: Kimberly Shuck <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 07:13:14 -0700
Subject: Re: [NO]Re: Origami and Laundry

How about haute couture draping techniques? Both on body folding and cutting.

Kim

Hatori Koshiro wrote:
>

> BTW, do you know any traditional laundry-folding
> which allow some cutting? :)
>
>  _ _ _ _ _
> |         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
> |_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
> |         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
> |_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>  If they keep on risking failure, they're still artists. (S.Jobs)





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:26:24 +0200
Subject: Origami in fiction

For those interested in stories where Origami crops up, I'd like to mention a
     short story
about a mysterious paperfolder. It's called 'Paperjack' and is one of a
     collection called
'Dreams Underfoot' by Charles De Lint (New York: Tor, 1994)

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: italic <italic@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:39:12 -0500
Subject: laundry folding allowing cutting

Maybe this would be the solution to folding those pesky corners of fitted
sheets.
JMS

> BTW, do you know any traditional laundry-folding
> which allow some cutting? :)





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:17:46 -0400
Subject: Re: NO: Can someone help Julia?

Hello,

At 08:52 PM 7/16/99 -0400, you wrote:

>is using Microsoft Outlook for Email, using MS Word to write
>her email, and also uses a European (Swiss) keyboard/character
>set.

The keyboard type should not affect the mailing program as far as I'm
concerned. Even strange characters _in the body of the mail_ (for example I
had problem because one fancy letter in my _e-mail address_ and that's why
it caused some trouble but not because I used any of those letter in my mail).

Second, it depends on how she transfers the text from MS Word to Outlook.
If she just selcts it and copies it via Clipboard with <Ctrl+C> and then
just pastes it in Outlook, then neither MS Word should have any effect on
the mail, thus it's only Outlook that causes the trouble. If she uses
another type of transfer from Word to Outlook, then that may cause some
problem but I suspect it's still Outlook that behaves badly.

Sorry but I can't give exact answer because I've never used Outlook (I'm
using Eudora Light on Win 3.11) but I think the problem is in that
program's settings.

Peter Budai





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:42:28 +0200
Subject: Re: origami doll making

I'm also interested in any information concerning ane-sama-ningyo.

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:45:27 +0200
Subject: Re: term for person who does origami

I once got called a 'papivore' - Latin for 'paper-eater' - because most of my
     hobbies involve paper.

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Sjaak Adriaanse <S.Adriaanse@INTER.NL.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:49:22 +0100
Subject: Re: [NO] re Headers, (meaning Footers.)

>On 15 Jul 99, at 16:20, DLister891@AOL.COM wrote:
>
>> I'm referring to those boring and incomprehenible (but no doubt sometimes
>> important) lines of text, figures and symbols, half a page long, that appear
>> at the end of every e-mail message and which recount the journeys the
>>message
>> has taken to get from there to here.
>

These lines are in the message header (and must be), but you can tell your
email program not to display (or print) them. For instance, my program
Eudora has a button with 'BLAH BLAH BLAH' on it. If I click it, the lines
with routing information are displayed. If I click it again they disappear.
Standard behaviour is NO display.  Your mail program surely must have the
same feature somewhere, it is probably under 'Preferences' or 'Settings'.
Good luck!

Greetings,

Sjaak Adriaanse

--------------------------------------------------------------
We perform the miracles.
                          Kate Bush





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:05:01 +0100
Subject: Term for person who does NOT do origami

Hello,

        Contining the thread in a different way, does anyone have any thoughts
on how we could (jokingly!) refer to non-folders.

        In the Harry Potter books, non-magical humans are referred to as
'Muggles'. I quite like that term, but I'm sure we could come up with
something ourselves.

                        Dennis





From: Torsten Drees <torsten.drees@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:44:43 +0200
Subject: Re: [NO] Fun in mathematics

Does anybody know the german Title ?

> "The Number Devil" (it had a very different title in the original German).





From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 18:58:57 +0900
Subject: [NO]Re: Origami and Laundry

> Since Kami is paper (I think) then is the art of folding laundry etc
> actually Origami or should it be Ori-(clothing/laundry in Japanese)?

It may be Orinuno or Orisentakumono.

BTW, do you know any traditional laundry-folding
which allow some cutting? :)

 _ _ _ _ _
|         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
|_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
|         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
|_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
 If they keep on risking failure, they're still artists. (S.Jobs)





From: Daniela Carboni <s134259@STUDENTI.ING.UNIPI.IT>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:04:35 +0200
Subject: [NO] The Guide. Was Re: Terry Pratchett

Someone wrote:

>> Are his books like Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker trilogy?

Was it not a tetralogy? If I can well recall there was:

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
Life, the Universe and Everything
So long, and Thanks for All the Fish

Is it right?

Lately it came another book, but I disliked it because it ended in a very
sad way and because my beloved Zaphod Beeblebrox did not appeared in any
page.

By the way, do anyone know if there are some Guide-related origami models?
(e.g. a Vogon starship..)  ;P

May the big prophet Zarqon be with you.

Daniela, who really knows where her towel is.

/\_/\    Daniela S. Carboni
 o o     email: s134259@studenti.ing.unipi.it





From: Kimberly Shuck <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:56:14 -0700
Subject: shipping origami

Does anyone have a great trick for shipping many 3-d origami models at once, or
do I need to behave as though I am just packing one and do it for each piece?
When sending one piece I just wrap it in tissue, put it in its own little box
and put the little box in a shipping box... but I have to send quite a few
pieces, any suggestions (or is this another thing that is probably on some FAQ
     somewhere)?

Kim





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:25:19 +0200
Subject: Re: [NO] Fun in mathematics

On Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 01:44:43PM +0200, Torsten Drees wrote:
> Does anybody know the german Title ?
> > "The Number Devil" (it had a very different title in the original German).

"Der Zahlenteufel", by Hans Magnus Enzensberger. (No, that's not very
different from the english title.) A pocket book edition is due to come
out soon.

--
Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: Wendi Curtis <rebelgami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:28:21 -0700 (
Subject: Re: Tyvek

I just noticed one of the origami vendors lists Tyvek for sale.  Isn't this
the stuff they build houses with?  Is it good for folding?
WC

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From: marty <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:48:30 -0700
Subject: Re: shipping origami

Following the two previous postings.

I don't know a lot about Origami -- but I know a little about packaging and
shipping.

To pack and ship something light in weight safely;
1    It is best to have a cushion around the object rather than something
rigid. It presumably would be best to LINE A BOX with a very soft, spongy
flexible foam plastic. Save whatever you come across in commercial packaging
you receive -- or buy soft, spongy crafting foam in craft stores.

2    It is best to put the material to be shipped in a foam lined box and
put that box in another foam lined box. you can even use a third box around
the second.

3     The cushioning material should be very close to the material to be
shipped -- but not touching so as to distort the material. Just barely
touching is best. Too much space allows shifting and the build up of kinetic
energy within the object.

4    The more potential contact area between the object and the protective
foam -- the better.  In other words --- the foam should be as close to the
shape of the object as is posible.

5    Boldly mark the outside box, "Fragile"

6    Insure the shipment.

I have patented a couple of tabletop boxmaking systems that allows anyone to
make exact size boxes. You can find details at the websites below.

-- Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 / Fax 805-965-2414 / email: mrcinc@silcom.com
Websites: <<Http://www.modelshops.com>> and <<Http://www.papershops.com>>
and <<Http://www.boxstar.com>>





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:55:16 -0700
Subject: Re: [NO] The Guide. Was Re: Terry Pratchett

----- Original Message -----
From: Daniela Carboni <s134259@STUDENTI.ING.UNIPI.IT>
>
> May the big prophet Zarqon be with you.
>
> Daniela, who really knows where her towel is.
>

You're a real hoopy frood to know where your towel is. Slartibartfast would
be proud of you!!!
All the best - c!





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:58:32 -0700
Subject: Re: shipping origami

----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>

> >
> > any suggestions (or is this another thing that is probably on some
> > FAQ somewhere)?
> >
> > Kim
> >
>
> 1) I had commented that I believe that using those styrofoam peanuts may
not
>    work because the peanuts are actually stronger than the origami; it
would
>    be like protecting the peanuts with pieces of folded paper.  I
suggested
>    using something weaker than the origami that will obsorb impacts,
>    something like cotton balls.

How about doing some tissue-paper roses to pack between theorigami pieces?
Just a (probably stupid) thought...All the best - c!





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:37:34 -0500 (
Subject: Re: shipping origami

>
> any suggestions (or is this another thing that is probably on some
> FAQ somewhere)?
>
> Kim
>

well, not a FAQ, but we had discussed this very topic before.  If you search
the archives you will find the discussions there.  Basically, I'll summarize
what I can remember:
1) I had commented that I believe that using those styrofoam peanuts may not
   work because the peanuts are actually stronger than the origami; it would
   be like protecting the peanuts with pieces of folded paper.  I suggested
   using something weaker than the origami that will obsorb impacts,
   something like cotton balls.
2) Someone else (Joseph Wu??) suggested that the only way to protect the
   origami would be to simply place each one in a small box and place those
   in a very strong larger box (not shoe box or cereal box) and make sure
   the smaller boxes cannot slide around in the larger box.  This person
   commented that nothing will really protect the origami (like peanuts)
   so you will just have to place them freely inside the smaller boxes and
   maybe wrap them in tissue paper to keep them clean.  The main idea is to
   prevent them from sliding around and impacting with the walls of their
   boxes so use small boxes that are just big enough for each piece.

--
 Douglas Zander                |
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
 Shorewood, Wisconsin, USA     |





From: Doug and Anna Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:45:13 -0700
Subject: Re: Tyvek

>I just noticed one of the origami vendors lists Tyvek for sale.  Isn't this
>the stuff they build houses with?  Is it good for folding?
>WC
>

I like folding Tyvek.  It makes a lovely classical frog base iris (also
called lily).  It is crisp, strong, has a nice sheen, can be curled, and
unlike Douglas Zander, I found it kept its creases.  The creases can be
reversed more easily than with foil.  It only comes in white, but the type
they sell in art stores has a surface that can be colored -- perhaps that
surface is what let it hold the creases -- the envelopes have more of a
plastic feel to them, and what they wrap houses in has Tyvek written all
over it.  It serves, in house construction, as a vapor barrior, and to make
the house more energy efficient by stopping air flow through the walls.  It
is quite difficult to tear.

Verbosely yours,
Anna

Anna Weathers, Portland, Oregon, USA
"In paradox truth."





From: David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:47:08 -0500
Subject: [NO] Robert Jordan and other authors

Yes I love Wheel of Time, if the series is long at least Robert Jordan
knows what the ending is if he'll ever get there.  I bet it'll be thirteen
books.  Any Jordan fans out there?

Tad Williams is awesome!  I read Dragonbone Chair, Stone of Farewell, and
To Green Angel Tower and found the trilogy to be great.  Any one read those
books or his new trilogy?

David





From: Kimberly Shuck <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:47:35 -0700
Subject: Re: shipping origami

Thanks to those who responded. The most practical solution, though not the most
poetic (chris), was to use a tissue lined X-mas ornament box and pack that in
another box in biodegradable peanuts. I need to ship slightly over 250 models to
a temple one ocean and many overland miles away. The thought of individually
wrapping each piece was giving me a rash. I thought that I would pass the
shipping idea on in case anyone on the list ever needed to ship that many
     models.

Kim





From: Kimberly Shuck <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:53:02 -0700
Subject: Re: shipping origami

> How about doing some tissue-paper roses to pack between theorigami pieces?
> Just a (probably stupid) thought...All the best - c!

Oh sure Chris, put that picture in my head... Now I may need to see what it
looks like..... The models are butterflies and chrysali (chrysalises, whatever
the plural is) and roses would look wonderful.

Thanks,
Kim





From: Cindy Walker <cw@JPS.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 18:08:50 -0700
Subject: kawasaki rose

David wrote:

------
Kawasaki Rose: As I know many of you have folded this rose countless times
and don't bother pretending that you haven't!  The very last step, step 15,
my rose doesn't want to do well.
------

I have folded the kawasaki rose countless times.  I too can't get it to look
as good as others do.  I especially have trouble with steps 25 through 28,
which are related to the step 15 mentioned above.  I'm told my roses still
look good, but they sure don't look like the pictures others have posted on
their origami sights and I'd love to know what I'm doing wrong. I don't
really think its lack of folding skill.  I've folded quite a few Lang
insects with great success.

So David, I may not have a solution, but you have company in being
kawasaki-rose-challenged.

-Cindy





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 18:17:28 -0700
Subject: Re: shipping origami

----- Original Message -----
From: Kimberly Shuck <atsina@HOOKED.NET>

> Oh sure Chris, put that picture in my head... Now I may need to see what
it
> looks like..... The models are butterflies and chrysali (chrysalises,
whatever
> the plural is) and roses would look wonderful.

Whatever you end up doing, please let me know--I have a slew of origami
birds (or is it scads of origami birds?) to send to an ornithologist friend.
Also: I believe it's chrysalises, but someone jacked my dictionary, so I'm
jonesing for something to help with my (paucity of) spelling skills. Once
again, All the best - c!!!





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 18:56:54 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Tyvek

Yes, it is what they wrap the outside of the building with.  Why, I am not
sure.  I have also seen a material called "Typar" on buildings which I have
been told is another paper similar to "Tyvek".  Tyvek is a paper which has
its fibers running in many directions instead of just running in one
direction, thus it is harder to rip or tear a hole by accident.  I have
tried to fold Lang's Praying Mantiss with tyvek and even though I did not
finish the model I can say that the paper did not rip or tear when I was
struggling with the head and antennea and I kept having to unfold and
refold, trying to get it right. Also, it seems that tyvek does not keep a
sharp crease.  Many mailing companies use tyvek envelopes; I once received
a Priority Mail envelope from the US Postal Service that was made of tyvek.

>
> I just noticed one of the origami vendors lists Tyvek for sale.  Isn't this
> the stuff they build houses with?  Is it good for folding?
> WC
>

--
 Douglas Zander                |
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
 Shorewood, Wisconsin, USA     |





From: italic <italic@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:00:31 -0500
Subject: Re: shipping origami

> 5    Boldly mark the outside box, "Fragile"
=====================
Thanks for the tips on shipping origami and other fragile objects.
This one I wonder about though.
Human nature being what it is, this seems somewhat of a challenge to the
handlers in the sorting areas.
I try to keep fragility a secret and just insure the parcel fully.

JMS





From: Mike and/or Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:23:25 +0000
Subject: Re: Origami in fiction

Julia,

Thanks for the origami sighting.  I collect origami sightings and have been
writing a column for "The Paper"  (the OrigamiUSA newsletter) on the
sightings.  Please do pass sightings on to the list - it is always
interesting to see where origami pops up.

Did anyone at the OUSA convention notice the display I had in the back of
the Hospitality Area on Origami Sightings in the Comics?

Janet Hamilton

----- Original Message -----
From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 1999 6:26 AM
Subject: Origami in fiction

> For those interested in stories where Origami crops up, I'd like to
mention a short story
> about a mysterious paperfolder. It's called 'Paperjack' and is one of a
collection called
> 'Dreams Underfoot' by Charles De Lint (New York: Tor, 1994)
>
> Julia Palffy
> Zug, Switzerland
> jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:23:37 -0700
Subject: 4x5interleaves

Hey folks!!!
    Sitting here, having just reloaded my 4x5 film holders, I'm am left, as
always, with numerous 4x5 sheets of paper used to interleave between the
sheets of film. It has never occured to me (until now, that is), that there
might be a plethora of folds that I could be making out of the things, and I
was wondering if anyone knows off-hand of what can be folded from 1x1.25
paper, as that seems a common proportion. All the best - c!!





From: Mike and/or Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:33:35 +0000
Subject: Re: Tyvek

> Yes, it is what they wrap the outside of the building with.  Why, I am not
> sure.

Tyvek provides another insulating layer (though I am not sure the R-factor
increase it provides) but mostly I believe it is used as a wind barrier and
is prefered to the old tar paper wraps because it allows moisture to escape.

Janet Hamilton





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 21:36:13 -0400
Subject: Special Papers (was Re: ORIGAMI Terms & Conventions)

Diana Wolf indited:

+  You are approaching geezerhood when you are no longer saving that wonderful
+paper for when you get old and have time to fold it, but look at it and think
+I'd better use this up or the kids will have to deal with it.

I've always heard "geezer" used with "old" as in "old geezer", but I can't
say I've heard "geezer" ever used without "old" so using "old" might be
redudant...

But on to the subject of "saving paper" ... there was an article in The
Paper not too long ago about using that special paper now, instead of
saving it.

        (In case it isn't obvious... When I write "you" below, I'm
        refering to any potential reader, not just Diana or
        myself.  Also, in case it isn't obvious, these are just my
        own opinions, and however strongly stated they are open to
        revision ;-) )

In addition to the burden of a legacy of "weird wrapping paper" you
might potentially bestow upon your non-folding (rigid?) heirs there is
a much better reason to use the paper instead of hoarding it:

How else will you know how it folds when it comes time to do that
"extra special project?"

If you fold it _now_, you'll know if you want to get more for later or
you might find out, _now_, that while it looks ultra cool, it cracks,
or tears, or rubs off when you actually fold it... as well as finding
out, _now_, if it wet folds, backcoats or "tissue foil"-izes or not.

Waiting until you're ready to do the special project before learning
those things will only increase your chances of disappointment and/or
frustration, and there is no compensatory upside to "waiting in
ignorance." [Even if you do locate and test-verify some very nice/cool
paper, there is no guarantee that the paper will keep, esp. if you
don't keep it in climate controlled conditions, but ignorance of how it
folds _now_ will not make it keep any better either.]

As another implication of waiting to use that special paper is the
increased likelihood that you'll pull it out at the last minute and not
have allowed yourself enough time to practice with the good paper
before trying for the "final rendition." As with foil folding and wet
folding, which are rather extreme cases, you can fold a model in
kami/typing paper/etc. till you have the folding sequence memorized,
but every paper has different handling requirements, and that means
that sometimes you have to learn those before you'll get a nice
result.  Yes, that means that sometimes you'll have to "waste" paper to
learn how to fold it. However, that is not a true "waste of paper" as
the only time you truly "waste" paper is when you don't learn from the
experience with it. Sometimes, even with kami, all I learn is that I am
too distracted/in-the-wrong-mood/etc and should not try to do origami
right now. Sometimes all I learn is that I'm talking too much and not
paying enough attention to the folding.  But when it comes to using
"special" paper, if you pay attention, you'll not be wasting any of
it.

-D'gou the long-winded.





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 21:37:53 -0500 (
Subject: my summary of Discworld series

Here is the summary I promised.  If anyone wishes to read the entire
text of all the email I received about this series then send email to
me (dzander@solaria.sol.net) and ask for the Discworld Total Text.

Terry Pratchett wrote about 20 Discworld books so far.  He has written
other books not in the same series.  The Discworld series are fantasy not
sci-fi.  Most of the books may be read in any order except the first two,
"The Colour of Magic" and "The Light Fantastic".  The thing is though that
many jokes and situations keep cropping up in the series that you may not
understand if you did not read the introduction of said event so you may
wish to read them in order.  They are a fast read and very funny.  Do not
start with "Strata" which is not really indicative of the series and not
of the same universe.  Recommended books are: "Mort", "Guards!Guards!",
"Wyrd Sisters" and "Small Gods".  It was also recommended to read
"Good Omens", though it is not in the Discworld series.
A good site to visit is http://www.lspace.org/
On the Usenet, these newsgroups exist:
alt.fan.pratchett
alt.fan.pratchett.announce
alt.books.pratchett

--
 Douglas Zander                |
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
 Shorewood, Wisconsin, USA     |





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 21:41:10 -0400
Subject: Re: shipping origami

+Does anyone have a great trick for shipping many 3-d origami models at once, or
+do I need to behave as though I am just packing one and do it for each piece?
+When sending one piece I just wrap it in tissue, put it in its own little box
+and put the little box in a shipping box... but I have to send quite a few
+pieces, any suggestions (or is this another thing that is probably on some FAQ
     somewhere)?

The only "trick" I know is one I learned from hearing about how OUSA's
Origami By Children exhibit is shipped. Each model is placed into a
"ziplock"-esque bag, then the bag is inflated, then closed (when I've
tried it I've had to close and inflate simultaneously). The air
pressure protects the model, the same technique is used on snack food,
esp. potato chips. My only variation on that is to put tissue paper
inside the bag so that the model can't bounce around inside it too
much. For models too big for sealable bags, packaging in tissue paper
is the only material I've found to be consistently softer than most of
my models. As others have pointed out, packing peanuts are often too
hard, and the origami will be damaged protecting them. Wet folded
models are less likely to be damaged, and foil models more so, so foil
has very little appreciable resistence to damage/mushing.

-D'gou





From: Dale/ Amy Liikala <lmtn@NCWEB.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:06:49 +0100
Subject: Rabbit Request

> Subject: Rabbit Request +
> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 22:57:30 +0100
> From: Dale/ Amy Liikala <lmtn@ncweb.com>
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>
> I am active with Rabbit Run Theater (an old barn summer stock theater)
> and our logo is a rabbit WEARING a top hat.  Can  anyone point me in the
> direction of favorite rabbit models?  Anyone have any ideas on how to
> incorporate the rabbit with the top hat (WEARING the top hat, that is).
> Are there any top hat models out there that are relatively 3-D?
>         Any ideas on modular units for unsold tickets would be greatly
     welcomed
> too.  This year's tickets are one and a half inches by three and three
> fourths inches.
>         I'd like to make a variety of models to give to people attending our
> "Bunny Awards" at the end of the season.
>         Thanks for any ideas you might want to pass along.
> Please Note:  Our display board announcing casts has already used
> origami this season... Shirts and Pants  (models originally designed by
> Rachel Katz) adapted for pajamas announcing PAJAMA GAME and T-pots
> (using a bird base)  originally designed by Marcia Mau, used to feature
> the cast for THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING EARNEST.  Who knows what I'll fold
> for A CHORUS LINE coming up in August!  Just another way to get origami
> noticed!!!
>         Amy Liikala





From: Phil and Amy <amynphil@NETZONE.COM>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 03:15:49 -0700
Subject: Group order for Gilgado Gomez's book?

Awhile back, this list was abuzz about Fernando Gilgado Gomez's new book.
Someone had offered to organize a group order for the USA if there was
enough interest.  Has anything come of this, lately?

I'm hesitant about ordering by myself since my Spanish is hideous.  I might
start a feud, or something. . .

Phil (and Amy)

amynphil@netzone.com
 Origami Star Wars at:
http://www.netzone.com/~amynphil/





From: marty <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 06:19:47 -0700
Subject: Re: shipping origami

I have been warned abut this before --- but I must be an optimist --- I know
there are some who would accept it as a challenge -- but basically, I think
human nature would weigh in on the side of care. I would not, however, mark
the package, "valuable merchandise enclosed"
-- Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 / Fax 805-965-2414 / email: mrcinc@silcom.com
Websites: <<Http://www.modelshops.com>> and <<Http://www.papershops.com>>
and <<Http://www.boxstar.com>>

----------
>From: italic <italic@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: shipping origami
>Date: Sat, Jul 17, 1999, 6:00 PM
>

>> 5    Boldly mark the outside box, "Fragile"
> =====================
> Thanks for the tips on shipping origami and other fragile objects.
> This one I wonder about though.
> Human nature being what it is, this seems somewhat of a challenge to the
> handlers in the sorting areas.
> I try to keep fragility a secret and just insure the parcel fully.
>
> JMS





From: marty <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 06:40:38 -0700
Subject: Re: shipping origami

In response to, "Each model is placed into a
> "ziplock"-esque bag, then the bag is inflated, then closed (when I've
> tried it I've had to close and inflate simultaneously). The air
> pressure protects the model,"

This will protect from crushing -- but not from rattling and shocks ???

Martin Carbone





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:40:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Group order for Gilgado Gomez's book?

Ariel indited:

+There were two people interested in coordinating a purchase: Doug Phillips
+( Doug Philips <dwp@transarc.com>  ) and  Kimberly Crane
+<kcrane@kimscrane.com>.
+
+Doug asked me if I could ask Fernando if he preferred to leave everything
+in KimCrane's hands, but I haven't been able to contact Fernando ( though I
+telephoned twice to his home in Spain).
+
+So I suggest emailing privately to the both of them and see if there has
+been any progress.

I've been waiting to hear back from Ariel on what Fernando wanted to
do. In the interim, I heard back from Kim (I think just after, or was
it before(?) the convention, well, around that time anywho), and the
price she quoted me for the base cost of the book was about twice the
price that had been bandied about on the list. After adding in a fair
profit, and of course shipping costs, it was way too much to be a "no
brainer" to go with Kim... given the price expectations that had been
set.

That's where things stand for now. As soon as I hear back from Ariel about
what Fernando wants to do, things can take the next step.

Thanks, Ariel, for the update.

-D'gou





From: Daniel Say <say@SFU.CA>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:57:02 -0700
Subject: Asiaweek magazine on New Japanese Origami

File that you are currently viewing

   Linkname: Asiaweek - July 16, 1999
        URL: http://www.pathfinder.com/asiaweek/99/0716/current.html
Link that you currently have selected

   Linkname: Art:   Art New shapes in the ancient art of Origami
   Filename: http://www.pathfinder.com/asiaweek/99/0716/feat1.html
---
        A two page spread with many illustrations of
        what I call 'worried' origami by enthusiasts
        in Japan.  (Worried because the surfaces are
        overworked, in my opinion, to shape the pieces)





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:23:27 +0200
Subject: Re: 4x5interleaves

Once I folded a latin cross (i.e. a cross that is higher than it is wide) by
     starting from a 4x5 sheet.
A lot of things that get folded from an A4 sheet might also be folded from a
     4x5 sheet (aeroplanes, boxes...)

All the best,

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Mark and Theresa <mark@HOBBITON.FORCE9.NET>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:38:04 +0100
Subject: Kasahara's Dragon revisited

Thanks for all the offers of support regarding the dragon - I haven't
forgotten you! However I have had "real live human help"on the iffy step
(not that you guys aren't real or live or....maybe you are? Perhaps I'm
just typing in my little room and there's nobody out there! Maybe I AM
mad....
I'm a teapot I'm a teapot I'm a teapot I'm a teapot I'm a teapot I'm a
teapot I'm a teapot I'm a teapot...)

--
Mark





From: Mark and Theresa <mark@HOBBITON.FORCE9.NET>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:38:07 +0100
Subject: Re: No Headers

> When I want to print out an e-mail I print it out page by page. For example,
> If it's a short message, the latter part of the header would usually appear
> on a second page. As I am only printing page 1, this second half does not
> print out - and saves paper and ink - and time. Maybe everybody does this
> anyway.
>
On a Mac you can select the text with the mouse and drag&drop to the
desktop as a clipping. Then drop all the clippings into a Word Processor
(eg Simpletext, AppleWorks) and print them all out

--
Mark





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 09:48:01 -0500
Subject: Re: 1000 Cranes for Columbine H.S.

Hi Dorothy and List Members

This is a good idea, I'm sure "the incident" will be on the children's minds
when school starts, hope this will lift their spirits and show them we are
thinking of them.

Thanks for posting the address again for sending cranes.  I have some ready
to send.

300 is a good start, but there is a long way to go.....hope others will send
some also.
Good luck, hope you reach your deadline.

Kathy  <*))))><

Dorothy Engleman wrote:

> Please send your cranes to Dee by the second week in August the latest.
>
> Dee Lynch
> 1350 East Easter Avenue
> Littleton, Colorado 80122
>
> Thanks everyone.
> Dorothy





From: David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:10:04 -0500
Subject: Mesh

I'm curious, has anyone folded mesh?  What's it like folding origami mesh?
I've seen it but never tried it.

David





From: David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:16:39 -0500
Subject: Lang spiders

I retract my comment about the orb weaver, it was spoken in haste; it's a
real nice model.

David





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:19:41 -0700
Subject: Re: Mesh

----- Original Message -----
From: David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>

> I'm curious, has anyone folded mesh?  What's it like folding origami mesh?
> I've seen it but never tried it.
>
> David

I've folded mesh frames to keep origami wanton and tortilla cranes together
while they were being deep-fried. While not the same as the actual origami
object itself, yet it had a very nice look to it. I thought of doping tissue
paper to the sides of mesh models for a bit, but never ending up folding
any. Mesh is not hard to fold (of course it gets more difficult as the guage
increases--thats the thing about origami, interest in it is always
increasing), but at larger guages it is harder to discern the subject. All
the best - c!!





From: Alasdair Post-Quinn <acpquinn@PANTHER.MIDDLEBURY.EDU>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 10:38:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [NO] The Guide. Was Re: Terry Pratchett

At 07:04 PM 7/17/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Someone wrote:
>
>>> Are his books like Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker trilogy?
>
>
>Was it not a tetralogy? If I can well recall there was:
>
>The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
>The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
>Life, the Universe and Everything
>So long, and Thanks for All the Fish

there's a fifth, too, called "mostly harmless" ... i think that somewhere
on the cover it refers to the "increasingly inaptly named hitchhiker's trilogy"

peace,
alasdair





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 11:19:21 +0200
Subject: Re: Tyvek

On Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 06:56:54PM -0500, Douglas Zander wrote:
> Tyvek is a paper which has its fibers running in many directions
> instead of just running in one direction, thus it is harder to rip or
> tear a hole by accident.

As far as I know, Tyvek is not paper at all, but is made from artificial
fibres -- in other words, it's plastic. It's one of those high-tech
fibres by Dupont.

There were some threads about Tyvek a few years back; just search the
archives. The following files contain references to [Tt]yve[ck]:

archive.065
archive.068
archive.069
archive.086
archive.096
archive.108
archive.135
archive.136
archive.140
archive.188

--
Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 11:30:53 +0200
Subject: Re: Kasahara's Dragon revisited

Is Kasahara's dragon a paperfolder who thinks he's been folded, or is the
     paperfolder an origami dragon who thinks he's a paperfolder...?

(Freely adapted from some Chinese philosopher who dreamed he was a butterfly)

By the way, is there any website where I can see a picture of that dragon and
     maybe get the diagrams?

TIA

Julia Palffy
Zug, Switzerland
jupalffy@bluewin.ch





From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:38:46 +0200
Subject: Re: Group order for Gilgado Gomez's book?

At 03:15 AM 7/18/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Awhile back, this list was abuzz about Fernando Gilgado Gomez's new book.
>Someone had offered to organize a group order for the USA if there was
>enough interest.  Has anything come of this, lately?
>
>I'm hesitant about ordering by myself since my Spanish is hideous.  I might
>start a feud, or something. . .

There were two people interested in coordinating a purchase: Doug Phillips
( Doug Philips <dwp@transarc.com>  ) and  Kimberly Crane
<kcrane@kimscrane.com>.

Doug asked me if I could ask Fernando if he preferred to leave everything
in KimCrane's hands, but I haven't been able to contact Fernando ( though I
telephoned twice to his home in Spain).

So I suggest emailing privately to the both of them and see if there has
been any progress.

Ariel/





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:17:19 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Sighting/Hearing

On a recent radio commercial for paint, one man , a Mr. Ben Theredonethat,
who isn't impressed by much, was being talked to by someone trying to tell
him about impressive things, one of which was a man who did Origami
sculptures of the Eifel Tower.  (To which Ben replied, "yeah, yeah he live
downstairs from me, so what".)

MASD
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike and/or Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Saturday, July 17, 1999 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Origami in fiction

>Julia,
>
>Thanks for the origami sighting.  I collect origami sightings and have been
>writing a column for "The Paper"  (the OrigamiUSA newsletter) on the
>sightings.  Please do pass sightings on to the list - it is always
>interesting to see where origami pops up.
>
>Did anyone at the OUSA convention notice the display I had in the back of
>the Hospitality Area on Origami Sightings in the Comics?
>
>Janet Hamilton





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:41:59 -0700
Subject: Re: Everlasting MIME junk...

----- Original Message -----
From: Julia Palffy <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
>
> Until an Office-and-E-mail-settings-super-expert gives me some decent
instructions, I give up. Sorry for the junk, folks!
>

I'm really out of the loop on this one, as I've not been getting junk with
your e-mails. Maybe if we figure why some are getting it and some not, there
might be settings on the recievers' sides that could use some adjusting.
Perhaps if you print the junk and fold it properly, there is a message in
there (not as likely). But one key question may be: Who is getting junk? (as
well as what programs junk recievers v. non-junk recievers are using (along
with what their settings are defaulted or set to)). Probably a silly
solution, but I'd like to know why I can't read what some people are
complaining about. All the best - c!!





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:03:04 +0200
Subject: Re: Tyvek

Douglas Zander wrote:
> been told is another paper similar to "Tyvek".  Tyvek is a paper which has
> its fibers running in many directions instead of just running in one
> direction, thus it is harder to rip or tear a hole by accident.  I have

As Sebastian pointed out, Tyvek is not paper but plastic.

The paper (or rather the technique involved in making this paper) is
called 'nagashizuki'. There's a great book about it, written by Timothy
Barrett, printed by Bird&Bull press in 1979 on nagashizuki paper... last
price quote I saw was USD 325.-- *sigh*

Matthias





From: Torsten Drees <torsten.drees@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:16:45 +0200
Subject: Re: YES-NO The Guide.

I think it will be difficult to develop something of Ford and
Athurs story. Most of theses things are normal or very different from
known characteristics. If you will show something as a paperfolded
skupture, only a little group ( Origamist and althoug Adams-Fans)
will see it.

the only characteristic person who seems to be foldable is Zaphod.
Two heads and three arms are charakteristic for this story.

Probems you will have to show the dolphins or the cow which
was born to be eaten (Restaurant). there are no difference to other
animals.

The vogon ship is difficult, too. You have to use yellow paper
and fold a star ship,
but then you have still not a vogon ship. the human fantasy has
more possibilities to interpret this yellow star ship.

The story is cruel on one side, because it make all known doubtful.

On the other side it gives us endless possibilities.

I hope you find the question to 42
Torsten

Oh

The fifth book must have a title like
One time rupert and return

Daniela Carboni wrote:
>
> Someone wrote:
>
> >> Are his books like Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker trilogy?
>
> Was it not a tetralogy? If I can well recall there was:
>
> The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
> The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
> Life, the Universe and Everything
> So long, and Thanks for All the Fish
>
> Is it right?
>
> Lately it came another book, but I disliked it because it ended in a very
> sad way and because my beloved Zaphod Beeblebrox did not appeared in any
> page.
>
> By the way, do anyone know if there are some Guide-related origami models?
> (e.g. a Vogon starship..)  ;P
>
> May the big prophet Zarqon be with you.
>
> Daniela, who really knows where her towel is.
>
> /\_/\    Daniela S. Carboni
>  o o     email: s134259@studenti.ing.unipi.it
