




From: David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:37:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Tomoko Fuse : Spirals

Allan findlay wrote:
>I should be going to Boston at the end of the month. It is work related but
>I will hopefully have a day to look around.
>I was just wondering if Tomoko Fuse's Spirals is generally available in book
>shops in the US.
>--------------------------
>        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)

You wish!  I already tried that!  But Boston is the right place to go if
you head north into Cambridge is Sasuga books on Upland Rd on which I'll
finally be going to in a few days.  They don't have spirals in stock.  What
do y'all recommend?  I'm thinking in the line of Tomoko Fuse and/or
Kawahata.

David





From: David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:40:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Help with Montroll's Elephant

Here is what I do if it is any help, I spread the layers of the feet then I
crimp only through the two primary layers which I find to have the right
shape, but I know this is not entirely correct because those two lines in
the diagrams are not on my feet.  I hope this helps at all.

David





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:55:12 -0700
Subject: Re: Ant and Lobster

At 22:40 99/07/06 -0400, Robert Lang wrote:
>So, the origami artist adjusts the length a bit to try to compensate. We come
>back to the fact that even "realistic" origami is not, and never will be, a
>photographic art; what you are trying to capture is the essence of the
>subject, and the origami designer must constantly balance the amount of
>detail against other considerations like clutteredness, number of
>thicknesses, elegance of folding sequence, and so forth. And the apparent
>visual area of the legs, as well.

Very true, Robert, and well stated (although it seems to me that you've said
this before...). Similarly, the legs on my rhino model are proportionately
much shorter than a real rhino's legs, but the thicker, shorter legs help to
convey the sense of bulk.

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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:59:23 -0700
Subject: Re: Women and origami

At 02:05 99/07/07 -0500, you wrote:
> OTOH: I have read reports that men and women use their brains differently
> when solving math problems; supposedly giving credance to the theory that
> just maybe men are better at math and science.

Some research conducted by one of my psychology profs seems to indicate that
this ability is linked to the time of onset of puberty. Children who go
through puberty later seem to have better aptitude for math and science than
children who go through it earlier. Since boys usually go through puberty
later than girls, they seem to usually have better math/science ability than
girls.

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From: Spider Barbour <spider@ULSTER.NET>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 10:07:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Women and origami (longish)

-- [ From: Spider Barbour * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Allan Findlay writes of his son and daughter, and on the basis of that one
example leaps to a conclusion about girls and boys and origami.  Well, I'd
never deny that males and females are different, but when you start
ascribing particular abilities to one sex rather than the other, you need to
step back and examine your biases.  And take a bigger sample!
        I discovered origami as a child.  Both my sister and brother folded
     with me
for a little while, but neither kept up their interest in the subject.  I'm
a devoted folder and designer of models.  I use a less mathematical approach
than many creators, but I do not see that as a sex-related trait.
        My parents always encouraged and supported my creativity, but they felt
that origami and photography were distractions from my true calling as a
painter!  They also had thoughts like these:
        Well, no harm in encouraging the girl.  It is hard to make a living as
     an
artist -- it's not a very practical pursuit.  But she'll get married and
make a family and won't have to earn her own living anyway.
        It was the fifties, after all!
        Societal constraints have kept many women from pursuing their preferred
professions.  One cousin wanted to be a veterinarian - she was incredible
with animals, but she was heavily pressured by parents and school personnel
to choose something else.  My sister's first choice was
architecture/interior design; her second was to be a baseball announcer.
(She used to turn down the sound on the tv and do the play-by-play.  She was
just as knowledgeable and insightful as the real announcers, and a lot
funnier.)
        Neither sister nor cousin has the job of her early dreams.  So, while
     I'm
not a "man-swatter," I recognize the difficulties women have had in making
in-roads into many professions.  I hope the situation continues to improve
for young women.

Anita F. Barbour





From: "elsje van der ploeg, elst nl" <evdploeg@BETUWE.NET>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 10:10:32 +0200
Subject: Re: Women and origami

Why aren't there more Patricia Crawfords and Tomoko Fuses in the origami
world?

It depends also from your point of view.
I make a short answer:
Lets look at western Europe round about Germany.
Friedrich Froebel started education-schools for woman.
1876 The first Kindergarten.
Nice if they don't get a husband and be not productive in
setting childs to the world they can always take care of
children.
Otherwise education for a mother is good.
Very revolutionare in that time for women to do payed work.
Elise van Calcar brought this idea to Holland.
Within this idea was paperfolding.
Thats why -I think- in Holland, Belgium most paperfolders
are women.
And thats why you often hear in Holland and Belgium that
paperfolding is for children.
We even have the verb "freubelen" from Froebel that stands
for doing something complicated and unimportant.
While I know that there are many women in Holland and
Belgium who could be very important to origami, if they were
recognised.
xxxxxxx Elsje





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 10:16:52 +0200
Subject: (NO) Re: Women and origami

Douglas Zander
>OTOH: I have read reports that men and women use their brains differently
>when solving math problems; supposedly giving credance to the theory that
>just maybe men are better at math and science.

Uh-oh, this is turning into one of those 'nature vs. nurture' topics...

I don't think there is a way to find out whether men or women are really
better at solving any kind of problem. You can only find out whether
they solve it better in a very specific setting, namely the situation
you're testing them in. You'll never know whether the differences you
find should be attributed to differences between the genders, or to the
setting itself. This is a very old problem in test psychology, and
unless you run tests in many different settings and with a very large
population, you really can't come to any general conclusions.

And if there are differences, I'm not sure whether differences in
problem solving strategies are gender specific for biological reasons.
Maybe boys and girls are 'trained' to solve problems differently, and a
change in that 'training' would also change the success rate? And what
would that say about the brain?

And finally, if men really are 'better' at math and science, why does
science produce so many outrageously crazy things like atom bombs,
biological weapons, pesticides, cloned sheep, genetic experiments with
embryos, etc?

Matthias, scientifically challenged





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 10:25:41 +0100
Subject: Women and origami

Matthias (do we have just one Matthias on the list?) wrote:

>Uhm, the subject was not mathematics or gestalt but whether women and
>men prefer different approaches to origami.

But the maths/physics discussion is interesting as well. Though no-one's
mentioned orbifolds as yet. Ooops, there I go!

> Since all generalisations are always wrong, I'd say this is not the case.

Including this one?

Dave (guess my surname) Mitchell





From: Julie Rhodes <kettir@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 10:36:10 +0000 (
Subject: Origami Sighting in Microsoft Office

I imagine someone else has already but we just got Microsoft Office 97 at
work, and the helper Scribble the Cat turns into origami creatures (swan,
elephant, frog, and in-between folding stages) during some of its
"animations".  If anyone wants to see the pictures I've done screen
captures, so just let me know.
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kettir at           /\ /\   | "History shows again and again
geocities dot com  = o_o =  |  How Nature points up the folly of men."





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 10:44:46 -0500
Subject: Re: More on Boston (was Spirals)

Just a reminder for visitors to Boston. The Children's Museum has a
recycled industrial materials store on its second floor. These things are
great for projects, including paper dying. The stock changes, but there
are usually plastic discs, foam shapes, rubber sheeting with holes cut
out, various papers on rolls, cardboard tubes, etc. You get a grocery
bag, for which you pay $5 or $6, and you may fill it with whatever you
wish, although some items carry a modest surcharge. You do not need to
pay museum admission to go to the store.

This shop is especially good if you have kids who have school projects.
All they need is a glue gun and they can make model lungs, villages and
whatever else their teachers think of.

I have not been to the Children's Museum for a year, since I do not live
in Boston, so it might be useful to check to make sure the store is still
there. I, too, am visiting Boston soon, and this will be one of my stops.

-Jane





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 10:57:34 -0700
Subject: Re: Women and origami (longish)

>         Neither sister nor cousin has the job of her early dreams.  So,
while I'm
> not a "man-swatter," I recognize the difficulties women have had in making
> in-roads into many professions.  I hope the situation continues to improve
> for young women.
>
> Anita F. Barbour

That is not a man-swatter thing to say, as society has been and still is
(here in the US, that is) a European white, male, upper class fun-fest. Most
other groups are excluded from the fun, and are depended upon for the labor.
Our odious policies toward immigrants are evidence toward that. However, the
environment that that has created is also perpetuating an unfair situation
within the young of the 'in crowd', in that the roles of the male children
are seperated from the roles of the women to such a point (this situation
is, perhaps becoming more ammeliorated as women become more included in the
society's descision-making) that many young males are expected to be better
than women (foolish expectation) at all those things that stereotypism has
assigned them. We are only a short time in history past the Seneca Falls
conference of 1884, and the 'floating womb' theory of female education, in
the big scheme. The irony of the whole thing is that women have been
disincluded as have been most non-white Europeans, despite the fact that
they are the majority. Hopefully we'll all live to see the day when half our
legislature and judiciary are finally female. On the subject of being
ushered toward one or another careers based upon gender, I definitely feel
that I was pressured toward the sciences at an early age, when I was
passionate about the arts.





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 11:26:59 -0700
Subject: Re: Tomoko Fuse : Spirals

At 09:37 99/07/07 -0500, you wrote:
>You wish!  I already tried that!  But Boston is the right place to go if
>you head north into Cambridge is Sasuga books on Upland Rd on which I'll
>finally be going to in a few days.  They don't have spirals in stock.  What
>do y'all recommend?  I'm thinking in the line of Tomoko Fuse and/or
>Kawahata.

Come to Canada! Well, maybe not for the books, but Fuse and Kawahata are
probably going to do a tour of Canada (Vancouver, Calgary, Drumheller,
Edmonton, and Toronto) in October. We're working out the details right now.
More info as we figure it out!
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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 11:30:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [NO] RE: Women and origami

At 15:24 99/07/07 +0100, you wrote:
>I don't mean to start a horrible "girls are better than boys at xxxx" or
>"boys are better than girls at yyyy" type thread.

Is that "xxxx" and "yyyy" as in chromosomes? 8)
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From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 12:23:26 -0700
Subject: Re: (NO) Re: Women and origami

> Let's not forget Marie Curie...

nor the intellectual revolutionaries of Tina Modotti, Gertrude Stein,
Charlotte Perkins Gilman and Elizabeth Cady Stanton. They weren't
scientists, but were reviled by many for thinking too independently,
especially at a time when women who practiced political pedantry were
actively shunned for it. It is hard to determine what any of them had to do
with origami, but they all worked in paper-based media.





From: Stephen Canon <Stephen_Canon@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 13:21:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Women and origami

>Joseph wrote:

>Some research conducted by one of my psychology profs seems to indicate that
>this ability is linked to the time of onset of puberty. Children who go
>through puberty later seem to have better aptitude for math and science than
>children who go through it earlier. Since boys usually go through puberty
>later than girls, they seem to usually have better math/science ability than
>girls.

Indeed.  The areas of the brain that handle spatial reasoning are among the
last to develop, and brain development slows down after puberty (when the
body starts devoting more energy to developing the rest of the body).
Thus, generally speaking, the earlier the onset of puberty in an
individual, the less time these areas of the brain get to develop.

Stephen Canon





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 13:34:21 -0700
Subject: The Evolution of Origami Ungulates webpage

I've just uploaded the webpage talking about the design of my rhino and
buffalo models. Not all of the photos are there yet, but the crease patterns
are done. Take a look at
<http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Gallery/ungulate.html>.

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From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 13:35:37 -0400
Subject: Re: General OUSA 99 Comments.

deg farrelly, replying to my query about OUSA's model menu, indited:
> This year we had more than enough space for Simple models, but were really
> cramped for the Intermediate.  Next year we will add another 12 feet of
> display space for the Intermediate models, and cut back the space for Simple
> (Unless there are more Simple models taught)

I also noticed a lot fewer complex models being taught this year, than last.
It would be interesting to look at the numbers over time and see if there are
any patterns.

Thanks for the info, deg!

-D'gou





From: Kimberly Shuck <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 13:43:46 -0700
Subject: Re: (NO) Re: Women and origami

Well guys, I'm not white, or a man, and I find it interesting that many of the
posts on this thread are by men who are often spouting pseudoscientific theories
to support their opinions. It has been a long time since someone suggested to me
that the development of my tits caused me to be an inferior mathematician (see
the posts on the onset of puberty). How tired are these old and musty cartoon
versions of the "differences" between girls and boys, men and women? Meanwhile
some of the most interesting posts on the evolution of models thread are from a
woman. Perhaps I'll just go back to doing laundry.

Christopher Holt wrote:
>
> > Let's not forget Marie Curie...
>
> nor the intellectual revolutionaries of Tina Modotti, Gertrude Stein,
> Charlotte Perkins Gilman and Elizabeth Cady Stanton. They weren't
> scientists, but were reviled by many for thinking too independently,
> especially at a time when women who practiced political pedantry were
> actively shunned for it. It is hard to determine what any of them had to do
> with origami, but they all worked in paper-based media.





From: Xuxa Rojas <RojasXu@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 14:48:41 -0400 (
Subject: Re: (NO) Re: Women and origami

Let's not forget Marie Curie...





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 15:24:10 +0100
Subject: [NO] RE: Women and origami

Oops, I didn't mean to upset anyone by my statements I was just mentioning
what I had noticed with my kids.
ie: that they seemed to be interested in 'girl'/'boy' things with no
prompting from us as parents (I've no idea what external influences they may
have had though).

I don't mean to start a horrible "girls are better than boys at xxxx" or
"boys are better than girls at yyyy" type thread.

Whatever rule someone states in this subject there is always a case of the
opposite being true. (eg: "Boys are better at maths" but my wife is
considerably better than me at it!).

So, again, sorry if I upset anyone.
--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)

> ----------
> From:         Spider Barbour[SMTP:spider@ULSTER.NET]
> Reply To:     Origami List
> Sent:         07 July 1999 16:07
> To:   ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject:      Re: Women and origami (longish)
>
> -- [ From: Spider Barbour * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
>
> Allan Findlay writes of his son and daughter, and on the basis of that one
> example leaps to a conclusion about girls and boys and origami.  Well, I'd
> never deny that males and females are different, but when you start
> ascribing particular abilities to one sex rather than the other, you need
> to
> step back and examine your biases.  And take a bigger sample!
<snip>





From: Leszek Cyfer <lehcyfer@AURORA.PUT.POZNAN.PL>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:26:26 +0200
Subject: Re: (NO) Re: Women and origami

On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:

> And finally, if men really are 'better' at math and science, why does
> science produce so many outrageously crazy things like atom bombs,
> biological weapons, pesticides, cloned sheep, genetic experiments with
> embryos, etc?

Curiosity perhaps?

lc





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 18:01:18 +0200
Subject: Re: Women and origami

Dave Mitchell wrote:
>
> Matthias (do we have just one Matthias on the list?) wrote:
Dunno, but if not he hasn't said a thing yet.

> But the maths/physics discussion is interesting as well. Though no-one's
> mentioned orbifolds as yet. Ooops, there I go!
As in urbi et orbi? No, that would be religion, and science has always
had its problems with religion.

> > Since all generalisations are always wrong, I'd say this is not the case.
>
> Including this one?
Of course including this one!

Matthias Gutfeldt





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 18:10:18 +0200
Subject: Re: Women and origami

Allan findlay wrote:
> It may be, but just a couple of days ago my son (7) 'found' one of my
> origami books and started trying to make things, my daughter (9) has never
> shown any interest in it at all.
There is a difference between doing origami, and creating origami. I
would think that overall, there are more women doing origami than men.
But if it comes to creating (or rather, publishing one's creations), I
think there are more men than women published.
It's just like in cooking: In everydays life there are far more women
that cook than men  (most men can't even cook anything more complex than
scrambled eggs). But most of the star chefs are men.
This doesn't mean that men are better creators, or better cooks. It just
means that they get more publicity.

> Similarly we bought lego & meccano for my daughter when she was younger but
> after a short play with it she lost interest, my son on the other hand sits
> and plays with it for ages and keeps coming back to it.
I hate to admit it's the same with our kids. But I remember that I,
myself, preferred cuddly teddy bears to cars and lego. Uh, and I suck at
math but I'm good with languages. Go figure.

> So, what I am basically trying to say is that maybe boys & girls are just
> different.
If we weren't, what would we do for fun??

Matthias





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 08:20:08 -0700
Subject: Re: New Model

Perry
Hi I got into your Web Page and can see the picture of the dragon but there
is no text or diagrams.  Am I doing something wrong?  I have Microsoft
Windows 98 on my PC.

Thanks
MaryAnn Scheblein-Daawson
madawson@sprynet.com

"Fold something.  You'll feel better."

-----Original Message-----
From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: New Model

>Hi folks!
>
>the model for the month is up!  I hope you like it it is a
>cartoon style dragon, and simple enough to teach to youngsters!
>
>Have fun!
>
>Perry
>--
>pbailey@opencominc.com
>http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
>Diagrams!
>ICQ 23622644





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 10:17:06 -0700
Subject: Re: OUSA convention impressions (long)

Jane-
I took your spiral shell class at Convention and was pleasantly surprised -
just when I thought I was going to have to wad the whole thing up and throw
it, it turned into a shell!!!!!!!!!!  I think you did a wonderful job
teaching.  I also teach at convention and have the same problem finding the
correct directional words.  I think the class went fine.

Would you please remind me where the diagram can be found?

Thanks
MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
madawson@sprynet.com

"Fold Something.  You'll Feel Better!"

-----Original Message-----
From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 6:40 AM
Subject: OUSA convention impressions (long)

>One more (OUSA) convention report (with food notes):
>
>My first day of involvement with the convention was Wednesday. After
>attending a rehearsal of the New York City Ballet and stopping at one of
>my favorite bakeries, Ecce Panis, I went to the home office, where I
>helped Gay Merrill Gross with labels for the model menu. The volunteers
>were impressively calm. Gay gave everyone she spoke to at the convention
>a snapper made from a metro card.
>
>The City Ballet always does "A Midsummer Night's Dream," with music by
>Mendelssohn and choreography by Balanchine during convention week, and I
>highly recommend it. I go every year.
>
>For dinner I met a friend at Chanterelle, which is undoubtedly the most
>iconoclastic of New York's top restaurants. The food is exquisite, the
>staff is well informed and helpful, and there is a gallery of old menus
>with covers designed by such artists as Ellsworth Kelly and Roy
>Lichtenstein.
>
>My next origami day was Friday. Following a washi-buying excursion to
>Kinokuniya and afternoon tea at Takashimaya, a few blocks away, I arrived
>at FIT to set up my exhibit of twist-folded models. There were nifty
>shelves and stands designed by V'Ann Cornelius available to exhibitors,
>and I am pleased to have one of V'Ann's elegant card stands to reverse
>engineer. It was fun to watch everyone setting up and to get an advanced
>look at the models.
>
>The exhibits that seem most vivid in my memory are: the large, tropical
>flower arrangements by Delrosa Marshall; Eric Joisel's sculptural,
>detailed faces and animals; Peter Budai's multitude of orange-and-black
>duo paper medallions; and Aldo Putignano's huge dishes, vases and flowers
>on pedestals, all done in the same retro daisy wrapping paper. If I wrote
>at a different time, I would mention other exhibits. I hope photographs
>will be available.
>
>Later, I helped set up the Gold Mine (a store). For the first time in
>decades, I saw the Samuel Randlett books I used to borrow from the
>library as a child. A copy of each was being raffled off.
>
>On Friday evening, the air conditioning was broken or turned off, and the
>hospitality room seemed hot and airless. Some of us experienced physical
>difficulties as a result.
>
>Among the classes to fill early on Saturday were those by Michael LaFosse
>and Tomoko Fuse. I learned a blue shark by Daniel Robinson, complex
>dollar bill animals by John Montroll (book in progress) and a ring from
>Mette Pederson's fourth book.
>
>Next came the annual meeting, which to most people's relief went well.
>First the board talked about OUSA's activities; then (non-board) members
>made 3-minute presentations. The board seemed to want to communicate with
>out-of-town members, and everyone who spoke from affiliate groups was
>thoughtful and civil. The meeting did last a long time, and eventually
>people were whispering amusing comments about eating.
>
>At dinner, Bill Dollar introduced me to Yami Yamauchi, who showed me his
>rotor on a pyramid made from two business cards. Later, I taught it to
>Carol Martinson and Joyce Saler. Joyce taught us a tabletop basketball
>hoop and ball.
>
>Sunday, I took Michael LaFosse's butterfly class. The model he taught
>uses his new butterfly base (in Paper Arts) and has the right side of the
>paper visible on the entire top of the wings. Later I taught Kawasaki's
>spiral snail shell. I didn't feel nervous, but when I looked at my hands,
>they were shaking. I had a more-miserable-than-usual time with the words
>"left" and "right." Also, I had three students who really were not
>advanced enough to take the class, but everyone was successful at making
>the shell. It was fun to notice people from the list (among the competent
>folders!).
>
>On Monday, I took only V'Ann Cornelius's shelf class. I am afraid I had
>to have one last great New York meal, so the Minnesota contingent (Carol
>and I) went to the Gramercy Tavern for lunch.  A trip to Kate's Paperie
>filled the remaining time before I had to leave for the airport.
>
>What made this convention special was volunteering, exhibiting and
>teaching, and all the people I met in these activities. I can't wait
>until next year!
>
>-Jane





From: Sandra P Hoffman <ghidra@CONSCOOP.OTTAWA.ON.CA>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 13:24:14 -0400
Subject: NO Re: Women and origami

On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Allan findlay wrote:
> >
> >
> It may be, but just a couple of days ago my son (7) 'found' one of my
> origami books and started trying to make things, my daughter (9) has never
> shown any interest in it at all.

My daughter shows much more interest in doing origami than my son does. My
husband has no interest at all in doing origami. I have an arts degree, my
husband has a science degree. He did more formal math than I did. He
has no interest in origami, and sees little to enjoy in it past the
finished product. I see all kinds of geometry and math that made no sense
to me in highschool, starting to make sense to me through origami and
I thouroughly enjoy the patterns of the folds.

Similarly my daughter is better at math and at computer games than my son.
She does not play most computer games though because of the violent themes
of most. Society does not pressure her to engage in violent play the same
way as it does pressure my son. She is able to walk away from it, he feels
he needs to work out why he is supposed to want this even though it is
often totally revolting to him.

When my daughter was an infant the first gendered paper diapers came out.
Blue for boys, pink for girls. I commented to some other mothers that the
diapers are already so absorbant, I can't imagine that  shifting the gel
around insisde the diaper would make enough difference to justify the
premium price. I was told I would appreciate the difference if I had a
boy. When I had my son, I tried and found that the difference did not
justify the price.

I am very aware of the personality differences between my son and daughter
and see no differences between them in terms of personality, and
intelligence that can be attributed to their gender. I have watched them
become acculturated, and struggle with becoming acculturated to societies
gender based expectations of them. I see more and more culturally mandated
gender differences between them every year, and it saddens me immensely.

sph

Sandra P. Hoffman ghidra@conscoop.ottawa.on.ca
http://www.flora.org/sandra/
----------------------------
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not a garden swollen to a realm;
his own hands to use,
not the hands of others to command. --Sam Gamgee





From: Marcia Mau <maumoy@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 15:26:46 -0700 (
Subject: Capital Folder Meetings - Washington, DC

Here is the Capital Folders meeting schedule for July to December.  We meet
at Tenley Library, Wisconsin and Albemarle, NW in Washington, DC from 6:30
to 8:45PM.

Please note that all of the dates except September are on the THIRD TUESDAY
of each month.  September 14 was the only Second Tuesday, our customary
meeting date, that was available.

July 20
Aug 17
Sept 14 (Second Tuesday)
Oct 19
Nov 16
Dec 21

Metro:  Red Line Tenleytown-AU Station is across the street from the
Library.
Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA

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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 16:51:39 -0700
Subject: Star Wars Fans

Fans of Star Wars will want to check out Wayne Ko's model of Darth Maul from
"The Phantom Menace". You can see the photo at
<http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Pictures/darth_maul.gif>.

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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:13:57 -0700
Subject: Re: Star Wars Fans

At 18:09 99/07/07 -0600, Kim Best wrote:
>Joseph Wu wrote:
>> Fans of Star Wars will want to check out Wayne Ko's model of Darth Maul from
>> "The Phantom Menace". You can see the photo at
>> <http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Pictures/darth_maul.gif>.
>
>Now if you tell me that was made with one sheet of duo colored paper, no
>cutter or added coloring, I'm going to freak!

One sheet of duo paper (actually one sheet of black and white paper with the
white side tinted red), with the facial features drawn on. Folded out of 10
inch kami. At that size, the lock in the middle of the light sabre was a bit
too flimsy, so a bit of glue was used to help for this particular rendition
of the model.

So, no need to freak. 8)
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From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:18:40 -0700
Subject: Re: NO Re: Women and origami

> I am very aware of the personality differences between my son and daughter
> and see no differences between them in terms of personality, and
> intelligence that can be attributed to their gender. I have watched them
> become acculturated, and struggle with becoming acculturated to societies
> gender based expectations of them. I see more and more culturally mandated
> gender differences between them every year, and it saddens me immensely.
>
> sph

Exactly, and only good parenting stands between a child's mind open and
aware, and one who's values have been put there by a generally unelightened
set of pre-fab societal mores.





From: Rob Moes <robmoes@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:21:54 -0400
Subject: Re: (NO) Re: Women and origami

Xuxa says:

>Let's not forget Marie Curie...

Or Emmanuelle.  I especially liked the film where she folded her legs and
body and allowed herself to...um, whoops, guess that wasn't the kind of
origami you had in mind, right Xuxa?

Rob





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:24:15 -0700
Subject: Re: (NO) Re: Women and origami

>It has been a long time since someone suggested to me
> that the development of my tits caused me to be an inferior mathematician
>

I don't recall having suggested any such thing





From: zealous Fuse fanatic <origamifreak@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 17:36:59 -0700
Subject: Re: Evolution of Origami Ungulates webpage

Very nice, Joseph!

One thing I particularly like, although it's a
seemingly small thing, is that you mention the dates
that model versions were completed.  Doing this
conveys a sense of the time percolation and
experimentation require.

The page complements nicely Chapter V in Kasahara's
_Creative_Origami_ in the way you explain how you
identify salient features of the animal and go about
executing them.

Well done!

anja

--- Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA> wrote:
> I've just uploaded the webpage talking about the
> design of my rhino and
> buffalo models. Not all of the photos are there yet,
> but the crease patterns
> are done. Take a look at
>
<http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Gallery/ungulate.html>.

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From: zealous Fuse fanatic <origamifreak@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 18:07:29 -0700
Subject: Re: (NO) Mulan Syndrome

Oh heck, I guess I'll put my 2 cents in, too.

I think the jury is still out on what the mental
differences are, generally, between XX and XY humans,
and how well they correlate with gender.

In the end, we're still talking about individuals, and
statistics mean nothing to a sample size of one.

My personal opinion is that it is probably society
which suffers from the need to pigeonhole people into
roles.  Many people are not aware of how blurry the
lines really are.  Intersex births occur at a rate of
something like 1 in 10,000  but "corrective" surgery
is usually performed early in development.  In
addition, the rate of XY individuals developing into
"females" is also surprisingly high.

In the end for me it's easier just to do my own thing,
and if it means being the only female sometimes, it's
a lot less painful than denying my nature.  Most of
the time I don't even think about it anymore.

anja
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From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 18:09:32 -0600
Subject: Re: Star Wars Fans

Joseph Wu wrote:
>
> Fans of Star Wars will want to check out Wayne Ko's model of Darth Maul from
> "The Phantom Menace". You can see the photo at
> <http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Pictures/darth_maul.gif>.

Now if you tell me that was made with one sheet of duo colored paper, no
cutter or added coloring, I'm going to freak!

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 19:36:08 -0700
Subject: Re: Star Wars Fans

At 22:05 99/07/07 -0400, Cathy wrote:
>Does Wayne Ko have any plans to diagram this critter any time soon?

At 22:13 99/07/07 -0400, Ian wrote:
>   I have the same question as Cathy. ARE THERE GOING TO BE DIAGRAMS?!?! That
>is the COOLEST model I've ever seen!  I'm so sick of origami animals! There
>need to be more models of characters and concepts rather than animals.
>Animals have been done to death.

Wayne's on this list, so I should probably let him answer this himself. 8)
But my guess would be that he has no plans to do so soon. Wayne's not a
diagrammer, and Winson Chan is less available these days to diagram stuff
for him (Winson diagrammed Wayne's X-wing fighter). Wayne's actually got a
whole series of Star Wars models, with more in the wings. Completed so far
are the X-wing fighter, the TIE fighter, the TIE interceptor, the AT-AT, and
Darth Maul. I've also got a Rancor done (OUSA conventioneers got a look at
it). We'll see what we can do about some diagrams, but don't hold your
breaths! 8)

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From: List Andrew Borloz <Cooknfold@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 20:07:27 -0400 (
Subject: [NO] Re: Women and origami

All that discussions about the men being better in math and science, the
women being better in other things, and the complaints about not enough women
in origami - they sound so sexist to me. I really don't care about what the
researchers or the so called experts have discovered, I find the statement
about the men being better at math a bit bizarre because as I was thinking
about all of my teachers in the past (both high school and colleges), I have
found that generally women are better at teaching math than men.

As for the cooking abilities - for the past two years, I have been taking
cooking classes. I found that generally, women are better at teaching people
how to cook than men. The worst male instructor that I ever had in a cooking
class happened to be a former NYTimes restaurant critic - he stinks!

However, please excuse me for saying this, but I do think that male cooks do
cook better than female cooks - it's only an opinion - just please don't
flame me!!!

As for origami, it was my mother who got me exposed to origami by buying me
an origami kit when I was a kid. I did play with it for a while, but the
instructions were so poorly written (by a man) and the diagrams so unclear, I
gave it up, thinking it too hard for me. More than twenty years later, a set
of  Tomoko Fuse's (a woman) books brought me back into the "fold".  So, in
all fairness, it was mostly women in my life that made my interest in origami
stronger and consistent.

So, what it appears to me from my experiences is that females are better at
instructing and communicating, and males are better at "doing" things and
bragging. Here, I am also guilty of making such a sexist remark! :-)

This whole thing reminds me of a clay animation video on the parable of "He
and She" - did anyone ever seen it?





From: Cathy <cathypl@GENERATION.NET>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 22:05:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Star Wars Fans

Does Wayne Ko have any plans to diagram this critter any time soon?

                        Cathy

At 05:13 PM 99-07-07 -0700, you wrote:
>At 18:09 99/07/07 -0600, Kim Best wrote:
>>Joseph Wu wrote:
>>> Fans of Star Wars will want to check out Wayne Ko's model of Darth Maul
from
>>> "The Phantom Menace". You can see the photo at
>>> <http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Pictures/darth_maul.gif>.
>>
>>Now if you tell me that was made with one sheet of duo colored paper, no
>>cutter or added coloring, I'm going to freak!
>
>One sheet of duo paper (actually one sheet of black and white paper with the
>white side tinted red), with the facial features drawn on. Folded out of 10
>inch kami. At that size, the lock in the middle of the light sabre was a bit
>too flimsy, so a bit of glue was used to help for this particular rendition
>of the model.
>
>So, no need to freak. 8)
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
>t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
>w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca
>
>
>
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
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From: Ian McRobbie <Ourldypeac@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 22:13:58 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Star Wars Fans

   I have the same question as Cathy. ARE THERE GOING TO BE DIAGRAMS?!?! That
is the COOLEST model I've ever seen!  I'm so sick of origami animals! There
need to be more models of characters and concepts rather than animals.
Animals have been done to death.
             -Ian





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 22:25:44 -0700
Subject: Re: Women and origami

At 08:35 AM 7/5/99 +0100, Dave Mitchell
<davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote:

>The BOS has traditionally been almost entirely dominated by men. This isn't
>to say there aren't influential women members - Iris Walker, Penny Groom and
>Joan Homewood being perhaps the most prominent examples - but the fact
>remains that the majority of the council positions have always been filled
>by men, and the majority of creative folders in the society are men as well.

Here in the states, things have evolved differently. Two very important
people in our history Lillian Oppenheimer and Alice Gray are women, and
even today, there are more women than men on OUSA's Board of Directors (and
this includes most of the executive commitee, even our president).

As for the creative folders being mostly male, this has been noted for a
while. It was mentioned that prehaps the female folders are designening
their works in reclusion, but being the tight-knit community we are, I
highly doubt it.

It was mentioned that men perhaps are more likely to have the aptitude for
designing origami models. From waht I understand, origami design, much like
piano playing, requires a strong integration of the brain hemispheres, and
is unlikely to be gender biased. The real question should be posed to all
of those women out there who have decided not to design origami models as
to why they went that route.

Waht I find to be interesting is that in the more mathematical areas of
origami (geometrics and modulars), there seems to a MUCH larger proportion
of women designers. One could argue that women had an even greater impact
than men in this area of origami. This puts an interesting twist into the
theory that "men are simply better than women at math." Meanwhile, most of
the male designers are making artsy nature like thisngs, such as animals
and bugs. Go figure...

Marc





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 22:35:47 -0700
Subject: Re: Ant and Lobster

At 02:51 PM 7/5/99 -0500, David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU> wrote:
>I have a few questions.  Lang's ant is a wonderful fold in it it's
>simplicity yet as a great 3d shape and the right number legs, etc. but all
>of the ants that I've noticed have longer legs than this ant.  Is there a
>species that matches Lang's ant?  Also does anybody have any ideas on how
>to fold longer legs?  I've been working on Montroll's American Lobster.
>It's a fun fold as you guys well know, but a little long.  Anyhow it seems
>to me that the tail is not long enough, I might be thinking of a different
>lobster, but if a waiter brought you that lobster for $15 and the tail was
>that short you might get angry (especially if it was folded from paper,
>even wetfolded, just kidding :) ) what I'm interested in is if anyone out
>there has any ideas on a simple procedure to trick the eye into making it
>seem bigger than it is?

As Robert Lang already pointed out, the "weight" of an appendage can gie
the illusion of length. Other things to consider is where the appendage is
starting from, that is from the middle of the body or perhaps the edge of
the base. Having legs start from the edge sometimes makes things look
longer. Also changing the angle the appendage is comming out at can create
an illusion of length. My favorite trick is to create a pleat that starts
where the leg meets the body, and continues into the body. If you do this
right, you an create the illusion that the pleat is part of the leg. You
can also follow Xuxa Rojas' advice, which is to fold from rubber tree
paper, and then paint the model accordingly....

Marc





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 23:11:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Star Wars Fans

On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Joseph Wu wrote:

+At 22:05 99/07/07 -0400, Cathy wrote:
+>Does Wayne Ko have any plans to diagram this critter any time soon?
+
+At 22:13 99/07/07 -0400, Ian wrote:
+>   I have the same question as Cathy. ARE THERE GOING TO BE DIAGRAMS?!?! That
+>is the COOLEST model I've ever seen!  I'm so sick of origami animals! There
+>need to be more models of characters and concepts rather than animals.
+>Animals have been done to death.
+
+Wayne's on this list, so I should probably let him answer this himself. 8)
+But my guess would be that he has no plans to do so soon. Wayne's not a
+diagrammer, and Winson Chan is less available these days to diagram stuff
+for him (Winson diagrammed Wayne's X-wing fighter). Wayne's actually got a
+whole series of Star Wars models, with more in the wings. Completed so far
+are the X-wing fighter, the TIE fighter, the TIE interceptor, the AT-AT, and
+Darth Maul. I've also got a Rancor done (OUSA conventioneers got a look at
+it). We'll see what we can do about some diagrams, but don't hold your
+breaths! 8)
+
+----------------------------------------------------------------
+Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
+t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
+w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 23:21:46 -0400
Subject: Exhibit in Pgh, Joseph's "Rocnar"

For the second time, blasted modem hangups...

Joseph Wu indited:
+Darth Maul. I've also got a Rancor done (OUSA conventioneers got a look at
+it). We'll see what we can do about some diagrams, but don't hold your
+breaths! 8)

Not holding my breath, at least not until after I finish your Tortoise
diagrams. ;-)

For those on this list in the Pittsburgh area, Joseph's "Rocnar", Great White
Shark, Rabbit, and Picture Frame which were on exhibit at the OUSA convention
are also now on exhibit at the Dormont Public Library through this month
(July '99). Thanks Joseph!

I'll be putting together a web page for the exhibit after I have the photos
developed and scanned, so that those who can't see it in person can have some
idea of what was on display. But that'll be another week or two yet.

-D'gou





From: Gerard Blais <gblais@NORTELNETWORKS.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 23:26:27 -0500
Subject: Convention photos

I have put some of the pictures I took at the OUSA convention
at the following url:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Den/8802/Convention
<http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Den/8802/Convention>

Most are photos of the models in the exhibition, but I also
have a few taken during the convention.

I unfortunately haven't taken note of the name of all the
model creators and folders so please, if you see an error or
if you can fill in some of the missing information, write
me a note and I'll make the changes.

Well, while I'm at it, here are my (brief) impressions of
the convention:

- I loved it!
- The classes were great!  I especially liked Eric Joisel's
  3D animals/masks.
- Michael Lafosse's class on paper making was exquisite!
  The possibilities with hand-made paper are amazing!
- The exhibition was awesome!  My jaw dropped when
  I saw Eric Joisel's and Robert Lang's models.
- I made a lot of new friends whom I hope to see
  again some day (if any of you are ever in Montreal,
  stop by to say hello).
- I have never been so sleep deprived and enjoyed it
  so much.
- I came back tired but energized by all the people
  I met and their enthusiasm about origami.
- I'm definitely coming back (next year hopefully).

Well, that's it, time for bed!  ZZZZzzzzzZZZZzzz

Gerard
Montreal, Canada
gblais@nortelnetworks.com





From: Keropi <keropi@VT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 01:39:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Convention photos

From: Gerard Blais <gblais@NORTELNETWORKS.COM>

> I have put some of the pictures I took at the OUSA convention
> at the following url:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Den/8802/Convention

Thank you Gerard for putting up the pictures (especially for those of us who
couldn't make it to the convention and those of us that wish to remember the
event once again).  Although some of the images came out slightly dark,
 I'm sure that's due to the indoors environment/lighting) the pictures were
clear and beautiful.

Keropi...wish I had made it to the convention....

ps.  anyone else take pictures at the convention and can put them up for us
to see?





From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:20:00 +0800
Subject: Re: (NO) Re: Women and origami

What an interesting debate!  I guess my next question is how many
(published) well known designers are illiterate, or indigenous, black or
hispanic?
I'd also love to know how many are parents and homemakers - most women, even
those who are paid to work, do far more once they get home than their
men...this is a fact, not a gripe!
Certainly when I teach kids, the girls tend to be neater (much neater) but
generally its the boys who have less trouble folding from diagrams and
inventing their own thing.  Watching writing classes, again the girls are
often years ahead of the boys -
As the mother of a daughter who behaves , as our society puts it 'like a
boy', in that she has always hated dolls, refused dresses/pink since 2 years
of age, and is into soccer (the only girl in her team), Lego and pokemon,
she actually has a very hard time.  Even today, if you do not fit into the
mould, you are ostracised.  By whom?  Now, turning 8, other girls (who play
Barbie and love clothes), boys (yuk, she's a girl), society (McDonald
birthday party gifts are different for girls and boys, did you know).  At
least with her short hair the other soccer teams don't know her gender -
otherwise they would play differently around her. (And what do I say when
her coach tells of a team mate 'you mustn't hit girls like that' - surely
that goes for everyone!)
But yes, she and I share a love of origami, while her Japanese father can't
fold anything except paper bangers!
Clare on her soapbox Chamberlain!





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:59:52 +0200
Subject: The Evolution of Origami Ungulates webpage

Joseph Wu wrote:
>I've just uploaded the webpage talking about the design of my rhino and
>buffalo models. Not all of the photos are there yet, but the crease >patterns
     are done. Take a look >at <http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Gallery/ungul
     ate.html>.

That's very interesting work, thanks a lot! Can't wait for the
diagrams...

It would be great if you could also put pictures of the real animals
there. Although I do have a general idea of how a rhino or a buffalo
looks like, I'm not too familiar with the differences between different
rhinos or buffalos; it would be interesting to see how you captured the
features in your models, and how they differ from other people's models.

Come to think of it, a gallery of different rhinos, or buffalo (or any
other animal, actually-  horses and cats and elephants are quite popular
designs, too), together with pictures of the real animals, would be
quite nice.

Oh btw, does anybody know of specific horse designs (e.g. Arab,
Freiberger, etc.)? I've only seen 'generic' horse designs so far, but
there are so many varieties in RL!

Matthias





From: Maarten van Gelder <VGELDER@KVI.nl>
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 09:10:18 +0200
Subject: Herman van Goubergen's models in the archives

Sebastian Kirsch scanned Herman's original diagrams with his
permission; the resolution is 300dpi. The Gecko diagrams comprises 10
pages; half a MB .

You may find them at:

On the Water, Under Water
   http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models/birds/onwater.pdf
Cat
   http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models/mammals/cat.pdf
Gecko and Fly on a Wall

http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models/reptiles/geckofly.pdf
Reading the Paper
   http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models/humans/readpapr.pdf
Toy Car
   http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models/toys/toycar.pdf

And of course the central entry for all models:
   http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/models/index.htm

--
Maarten van Gelder    KVI - Groningen, Netherlands    vgelder@kvi.nl





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 09:41:08 +0100
Subject: Re: (NO) Mulan Syndrome

>In the end for me it's easier just to do my own thing,
>and if it means being the only female sometimes, it's
>a lot less painful than denying my nature.  Most of
>the time I don't even think about it anymore.

That hopefully sums it up, "Do my own thing". Its not _what_ you are more
than _who_ you are that matters.
--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 10:21:13 -0700
Subject: Re: Convention photos

At 23:26 99/07/07 -0500, you wrote:
>I have put some of the pictures I took at the OUSA convention
>
>I unfortunately haven't taken note of the name of all the
>model creators and folders so please, if you see an error or
>if you can fill in some of the missing information, write
>me a note and I'll make the changes.

The polar bears are by Dr. Bernie Peyton, a leading expert on bears. I've
got some photos of his grizzly bear models from last year's convention that
I still need to put on my website.

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Julia_P=E0lffy?= <jupalffy@BLUEWIN.CH>
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 11:00:55 +0200
Subject: Re: Tomoko Fuse : Spirals

I don't know about availability in the US, but if there is a bookshop in your
     area where you can order Japanese books, then you ought to be able to
     order T. Fuse's book about Spirals (or find out whether it's out of print)
     by giving them the ISBN number:

ISBN 4-480-87202-7

Regards,

Julia Palffy, Switzerland

-----Original Message-----
From:   Allan findlay [SMTP:a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK]
Sent:   mercredi, 7. juillet 1999 10:13
To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        Tomoko Fuse : Spirals

I should be going to Boston at the end of the month. It is work related but
I will hopefully have a day to look around.
I was just wondering if Tomoko Fuse's Spirals is generally available in book
shops in the US.
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        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 11:34:23 +0200
Subject: Switzerland calling (was: RE: Tomoko Fuse : Spirals)

"Julia Plffy" wrote:
>Julia Palffy, Switzerland

Hey hey, another one folding the alps! I'm from Berne; we (other folders
all over Switzerland, and myself) are sort of planning a swiss meeting
sometime in October. If you're interested, please e-mail me at
tanjit@bboxbbs.ch

Matthias Gutfeldt
>From Berne, Switzerland
tanjit@bboxbbs.ch





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 11:39:19 -0700
Subject: Darth Maul revisited

I've put a new version of the Darth Maul picture up. A little Photoshop work
and he now has glowing eyes and lightsabre! 8)

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