




From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:28:04 -0400
Subject: General OUSA 99 Comments.

As has been pointed out many times, this is not a forum for officially
communicating with the OUSA organization, so I will be sending this to them as
well. I am posting this here because OUSA is not the only organization that
does conventions, and with the OUSA convention recently ended, and the German
convention also recently ended, I'd like to try to get a mix of ideas about
what kinds of things work at conventions. 'nuff said.

-D'gou

GENERAL COMMENTS/IMPRESSIONS:

These didn't really fit into a timeline description of the convention.
I can't really say when I thought-of/noticed them:

ID Badges:
One of the things different, and IMHO better, this year, was how the ID
badges were done. Instead of having ID badges using pins on the back as
fasteners, we had ID badges on elastic cords, so one could easily put
them on and take them off.
Also an improvement with the ID badges was that member info (name,
number, etc.) and ticketing numbers were printed on the back. Well
done! I think they were very nice improvements. It may not sound like
much, but every little bit of convenience and ease really helps a lot.
I think also having fewer pieces of paper to verify would make the
registration preparation easier too.

99 Annual Collection:
As others have already noted, I think there are enough cool models in
this one to make a "must get" (this is my personal opinion, so if you
buy one and don't like it, well, I'm _not_ twisting your arm here! ;-)
;-) ).

99 Annual Collection Pre-pay:
Attendees to the convention have the option to prepay for their Annual
Collection. I'd like to see that option added to the volunteers form
too! The more I can prepay for things at the convention, the more cash
I have when I get there to buy other stuff! ;-) Seriously, it is a
major win to be able to prepay, get a ticket in the registration
packet, and use that. Kudos! to whomever thought of this and got it to
happen for the T-shirts...

T-Shirt pre-pay:
I liked being able to prepay for my convention T-Shirts. Luckily I was
familiar with the sizes from previous conventions and didn't have any
need to switch sizes. I'm not sure what can be done to make the
exchanges go better next year, but I would like to be able to order and
pay for my T-Shirts in advance next year too.

Model Menu:
The model menu was well done. Thanks to deg and his volunteers! I must
say that it was rather crowded, and deg and co. did a great job of
getting everything to fit (getting everything to F.I.T. is a different
matter, but I digress). I don't see many alternatives, since there
isn't a whole lot of room to make the model menu bigger, and the only
option would be to start limiting the number of classes taught.  Since
the model menu has to be viewed from a distance, reducing the size of
the models would not be an option, IMHO.

Free Drinks:
Again this year there were complimentary drinks in the Hospitality
Area. Thanks! I really appreciate having OJ and Lemonade as
alternatives to the water fountain water. (I didn't try any coffee, so
I don't know how it was.)

---End of Message---





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:44:59 -0700
Subject: Re: 4th of July "Paper Poppers"

At 09:18 AM 7/2/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Somebody taught me how to make a paper noise maker that popped open and
>made noise when it was flicked with the wrist, I have forgotten how to
>make it, does anyone know?
>
>pembroke_owner ^..^
>_________________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>

>
Look in Eric Kenneway's Complete Origami if you can find the book at a
bookstore or library.  Or you can look in a book on origami toys and I
am sure you can find it there.

Ria





From: Alonzo Gariepy <alonzo@AA.NET>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:46:18 -0700
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 1 Jul 1999 to 2 Jul 1999

Also check out The Planiverse by A.K. Dewdney, currently out of print.
While flatland is a 2D world viewed from above, so to speak, the planiverse
is viewed from the side.

>From:    hecht <hecht@CWIX.COM>
>Subject: Re: FLATLAND satire
>
>FYI: there is a sequel to "Flatland", called "Sphereland: A Fantasy About
>Curved Spaces and an Expanding Universe", by Dionys Berger.  Amazon is
>currently selling a double-book of both fables for $11.  There's a good
>summary there.

Alonzo





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:51:50 -0700
Subject: Re: Yami's Fireworks

Hi Sonia,

I have diagrams of the fireworks and I'll send you a copy.
Speaking of Fireworks I have a couple of models stacked on
top of one another in the center of my dining table and it
makes a great centerpiece for the holiday!

Ria





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:54:15 -0700
Subject: Re: FLATLAND

Thanks for telling me about the sequel to this book, Steve.

Ria





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:58:50 -0700
Subject: [NO] Re: Flatland, Sphereland, and The Planiverse

At 16:46 99/07/02 -0700, Alonzo wrote:
>Also check out The Planiverse by A.K. Dewdney, currently out of print.
>While flatland is a 2D world viewed from above, so to speak, the planiverse
>is viewed from the side.
>
>>From:    hecht <hecht@CWIX.COM>
>>Subject: Re: FLATLAND satire
>>
>>FYI: there is a sequel to "Flatland", called "Sphereland: A Fantasy About
>>Curved Spaces and an Expanding Universe", by Dionys Berger.  Amazon is
>>currently selling a double-book of both fables for $11.  There's a good
>>summary there.

Ah, yes. I've read both "Flatland" and "The Planiverse". Very interesting
reads, both of them. I wonder, though, where the link to origami is. In a 2D
universe, paperfolding would be reduced to folding an almost 1D line into
various shapes, essentially a wire-bending exercise in 2D. Although we work
with an almost 2D medium in 3D space, we cannot do any sort of meaningful 2D
origami in 2D space.

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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 18:05:03 -0700
Subject: Rhinoceros models

Some time ago (within the last month or so, I believe), there was discussion
of the merits of various rhinoceros designs. I offer mine for comments.
You'll find a photo, along with some design notes, at this URL:
<http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Gallery/JWu2/rhino.html>.

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w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Kenji Houston <kenji@TFS.NET>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 18:41:23 -0500
Subject: marblizing

How do I marblize paper, using liquitex acrylic paints





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 19:54:47 -0500
Subject: Joisel's class

I wonder if anyone on the list took Eric Joisel's class and is willing to
describe it? Althought the class was called "Animals," the sample in the
model menu was a flat tesselation (hedgehog spines, perhaps???).

I am really curious to know how the class went.

Thanks.
-Jane





From: List Andrew Borloz <Cooknfold@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 19:55:52 -0400 (
Subject: Convention Experience

Chronological sequence of my personal events during OUSA experience as a
10th timer and first timer as a teacher.

Friday

1. Drove from NJ home to NY Waterways' Weehawken ferry terminal
2. Took bus from 38th Street terminal to 34th street - got off on Eighth
Avenue
3. Saw my first fellow folders near Madison Square - Bob and Eunice Stack -
chitchat.
4. Arrived at FIT approx. 11:00 pm looking for volunteer work
5. Took elevator to 6th floor - first person - Jean Baden-Gillette - hug &
chitchat.
6. Minor crisis - construction work in progress on 6th floor - halted to make
way for convention preparation and setup.
7. Began my volunteer work - moving tables, sorting out signs, make new room
signs.
8. Saw deg farelly - shake hands, chitchat, and bought Statue of Liberty tape
from him.
9. Decided to check out the setting up of the book table on eighth floor.
10. Saw June Sakamoto - chitchat and then both of us went down to the
basement to pick up shelves for the Gold Mine.
11. Saw that 600 Annual Collection books being shipped to the basement.
12. Up and down on the elevators delivering collapsible shelves.
13. Saw Marc Kirschenbaum, chitchat, and helped out with Tom Hull in moving
boxes from loading dock to the front entrance
14. Asked someone on sixth floor who's responsible for delivery of the
convention
    to first and eighth floors - someone's finger was pointed to me - my
reaction: "Me? -
    oh well, I'll do it."
15. Huffed and puffed during the physical move of the 300 books from basement
to eighth
    floor and 300 books to first floor.
16. Dropped off my two teaching models for Model Menu table.
17. Arranged origami items on one of the many Gold Mine shelves.
18. Drove June Sakamoto to Katie's Soho store during rush hour - temporarily
stuck in traffic
19. Drove June Sakamoto back to FIT. Went to Figs' (restaurant) to hold a
table for five people.
20. Quickly gulped the whole dinner (absolutely delicious) and left to work
in The Source bookstore
21. Met Mike and Janet Hamilton. Got information on layout and procedures
from them. (they're a great couple!)
22. Filled out book & paper orders for attendees from 7:00 to 10:00 pm
23. Left for home.... in bed by 12:00 am - zzzzzz

Saturday

1. Drove the car into the city and parked in the parking garage.
2. Picked up tickets and went to the classes:
        A. flower box
        B. Dragon's head (copper mesh)
3. Worked in the Source from 12 to 2 pm
4. Taught decorative flower balls(Momotani) with June Sakamoto as my assistant
5. Went to the last class: Fuse flower ball taught by Patty Grodner
6. Asked Patty Grodner if she is willing to volunteer as my sign language
   interpreter during Board meeting. She said yes!
   (NOTE to all: I have a severe hearing loss in both ears. I am an excellent
lip reader,
    but with the poor lighting, strange theater design, and large number of
people -
    there is no way I can read everybody's lips from different positions
without breaking
    my neck. It would be nice if I have the neck of an owl but that by itself
would make
    me look very bizarre!  Many, many, many thanks to Patty for her GREAT job
as an
    interpreter - she is fantastic!)
7. Enjoyed dinner with fellow folders, hat show, 3 dance shows with huge
fabric pieces
   folded origamically (strange use of word, eh?)
8. Taught flower balls to fellow folders who could not take my earlier class
(bad timing)
9. Completely missed Jeremy Shafer's show (I am SO sorry!!!!)
10. Left FIT around 10:30.
11. Stuck in heavy city traffic near George Washington bridge at 11:00 pm.
12. In bed by 12:00 am zzzzz (I am a wimp - I can't stay up longer)

Sunday

1. Drove the car into the city - parked in a garage
2. Picked up one class ticket.
3. Assumed various roles during the day:
  A. Assistant - June Sakamoto's Sunflower class (NOTE: I am ashamed to
report that she
        did a much better job as an assistant in my flower ball class than I
did in
        her class)
  B. Student - One class - fish, star, pegasus - lady from michigan - my
memory is just
        as bad as D'gou's. Later taught the teacher in this class 3-d star.
  C. Order form filler in the Bookstore (noon to 2:00 pm)
  D. Teacher - Modular 3-d star - Meeusen?(I think) - Kay Eng volunteered as
my assistant
4. Ate lunch between B & C above with fellow folder from Montreal, Canada -
taught 3-D
           star
5. Ate Chinese dinner with old and new origami friends.
6. Was Kay Eng's company during her coverage of the information table while
others are
   out for dinner. Patiently being taught by Kay Eng hold to fold one of
Fuse's boxes.
7. Interrupted (interruption enthusiastically welcomed) by two people during
Kay Eng's private session:
     A. Karen Thomas - book artist - FANTASTIC collection of handmade
mini-books - she used
          origami folds and principles
     B. Steve Buck - bought and passed around box of FANTASTIC Krispy Kreme
donuts (NOTE:
             Hard to believe that I have been going into the city almost
every week, and this is
             the first time I had this FANTASTIC donut - it melts in your
mouth. Thank you, Steve,
             for introducing me to this donut - I will never eat Dunkin'
Donut again)
8. Finally finished the top part of the Fuse box. Never got to the bottom
piece.
9. Left approx. 10:30 pm - Went home in about 40 minutes...swiftly and deftly
jumped into the bed...zzzz

Monday
1. Woke up 6:30 am - Left NJ home at 7:30 am
2. Drove to ferry terminal. Encountered heavy commuter traffic - arrived at
FIT 9:00 am.
3. Took classes:
                A. plastic Mette units (using overhead transparency sheet
              B. recycled paper dyeing
                C. from seed to pulp - lecture given by a sales manager from
a swedish company.
4. Took brief nap.
5. Attended Monday reception.
6. Left 8:30 pm - had to go to bed early so that I can get up 5:45 am next
day to go
           to work (yuk!)

Looking back, I had a GREAT time - thanks so much to all the folders and
volunteers who made my
convention experience one of the best ever!!! Next year, I will stay in the
dorm - I want to be able to stay up
till 4 am - it's part of the whole experience that I have been missing for
too many years!

&rew (and-rew)





From: Mike and/or Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 20:17:06 +0000
Subject: Re: Paper and kits in Dallas, TX

John,

I have kept a list of origami book and paper sources that have been
mentioned on this list.  See my web page at
http://www.concentric.net/~mikeinnj/orisrc.shtml

If you hear of any other good sources not on my list, let me know!

Janet Hamilton

----- Original Message -----
From: John R. S. Mascio <mascio@RYU.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 3:38 AM
Subject: Paper and kits in Dallas, TX

> Does anyone happen to know of any shops in the Dallas, TX area
> that I might buy Origami paper and kits?  Austin, TX?
>
> Thanks,
> JRSM
> --
> John Raymond Stone Mascio    mascio@ryu.com |      _
>                                             |  _|_|_)
> WARNING: Sender's mental center of gravity  | (_|_|
>          is about 3 feet to his left        |





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 20:38:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Convention Experience

Thanks to &rew and everyone else posting convention reports (even of non OUSA
conventions -- Horrors! ;-) ;-) ).

While I'm replying to &rew's message, anyone who knows can jump in and answer:
;-)

While this is in the context of OUSA's convention, I would think these
logistical items come up at any "convention."

+7. Began my volunteer work - moving tables, sorting out signs, make new room
+signs.

I'm wondering, can room signs be made up in advance, or is that something not
known until the last minutes?

+    ... Many, many, many thanks to Patty for her GREAT job
+as an interpreter - she is fantastic!)

I wondered who that was! Thanks from me too, Patty, such a nice thing to do!

+7. Enjoyed dinner with fellow folders, hat show, 3 dance shows with huge
+fabric pieces
+   folded origamically (strange use of word, eh?)

Was that in the Cafeteria, or Hospitality area? Before the novelty
competition?

Who won the Hat Competition, and can anyone try to describe the winner(s)
hats?

-Thanks!
        -D'gou





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 21:38:26 -0700
Subject: Re: Thanks

David - I'm a little late getting my Convention feedback to the list but,
for one thing, if you like wetfolding, you would really enjoy Eric Joisel's
technique!!!!!!  In a demonstration that took place in the hospitality area
during the lunch break on Sunday Eric began a wet folded mask by crumpling
(in a way only Eric could crumple) a large sheet of paper over his face and
then emptying a glass full of water over his head.  I must apologise because
I know that my mere words could barely convey the awsome impact of this
technique which I believe he has independently developed!  <g>

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson

more to follow on the Convention in the days to come!!!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 2:41 PM
Subject: Thanks

>I'd like to thank all those that have helped me so far with their sage
advice.
>
>Thanks to all that helped me with wetfolding advice, now I have
>successfully wet folded the Kawasaki shell, Montroll's tiger (chinese
>zodiac), and Lang's Ant.  The ant is pretty impressive in black lizard
>paper.
>
>Thanks to the people who advised me to fold Engel's octopus out of tissue
>foil paper.  After making a decent fold from typewriter paper I made some
>tissue foil paper and folded a neat octopus.  The tentacles are the best
>part!
>
>Thanks to Robert J. Lang for giving me instructions to heptasect that
>angle.  It has now came out correctly, without leg problems!  My leg
>problems must have been a result of not doing that crucial folding right in
>the beginning.
>
>I look forward to spongeing more advice off you guys in the future.  This
>email group is a great asset for folding.  Happy folding to all!
>
>Sincerely,
>David





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 21:57:54 -0700
Subject: Re: Convention    Re: Thanks to OUSA

Nick-

In the way of thanks due re: Convention:  Thanks for allowing Eric Joisel to
present your "model of  CRAB" at Convention.  With Eric's accent, I was
hearing the "B" as a "P" and I thought to myself, "Well, this should be an
interesting model!!!!!!!!!!!!"  It has caused many a smile as I relate the
story to friends and went over quite well in the supermarket one day when I
wanted to make crab salad, but didn't know in which isle the   cra"b"  was.

p.s.  I have not related this story to Eric.  : - )

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Robinson   WHO WROTE:
>
>If people keep praising them, where will it all end? Corporate buyout of
>the British Origami Society? (to be renamed BOUSA or more appropriately
>BOOZA)
>>
>all the best,
>
>Nick Robinson





From: Larry Hart <Lazagami@TESCO.NET>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 22:58:26 +0100
Subject: Favourite folds

>Date:    Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:56:04 -0500
>From:    David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU> Subject: Top 10 models
>Hi guys, here is a question that I'm dying too know: what are your top ten
favorite models? David

How nice that a fellow folder is interested enough to ask!  Here goes:- Jun
Maekawa - Winged Devil, Neal Elias - Peacock, Shuzo Fujimoto - Twist Cube,
Raymond Mclain - Baby Buggy, Eric Joisel - Rat, Robert Neale - Dragon, Max
Hulme - Jack in the Box, Tomoko Fuse - Catapiller ( incidently, for anyone
who doesn't know, I was involved with Rick Beech in January this year
organising a 400 foot version with about 400 units made in 3 hours, it may
make its way into Guiness records 2000?) Valerie Vann - Rose Cube, Fred
Rohm - Waterwheel.  thats my list, let's see some others!





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 05:39:38 -0700
Subject: Re: [NO]FLATLANDetc.

Dear Joseph,

There isn't any direct link to origami with this book,
but indirectly I saw interesting metaphors that I thought
would appeal to people who liked math, origami and sci-fi,
like I do.  Particularly at the end of the book when the
square is talking to his grandson the hexagon about the new
concept of solid geometric figures in spaceland; I think there
is a message for everybody who aspires to understand things
beyond their present conception.  We have to break the old
barriers and predudices before we can realize there is an
infinite number of possibilities.  In a sense, doing origami
presents me with infinite possibilities and I'm so blown
away with folding or attempting to fold the models that you
and other origami artists create from one little square of paper.

What gets me even more excited is when I'm able to create a model
myself, like the star from a failed Montroll animal or the little
candy cane I had made up for hanging on my Christmas tree.  I love
making something from almost nothing, like a piece of paper.  Now
do you see  why I brought up the topic?

Ria





From: Faye Goldman <fayeG@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 08:45:04 -0400
Subject: Re: OUSA Convention Exhibit Model & Yamauchi Fireworks Diagram

Wu, Sonia wrote:

> Also, last year a young man (part of a folding family--mom, dad, and
> younger sister) said he'd bought BIG (2' X 2' I think) sheets of foil
> with a goal of mailing enormous folded units for a modular piece as an
> entry to be assembled on-site for the exhibition.  Anyone know if he
> succeeded?
>
> Sonia Wu

That would be my son, Brian Kolins.  He did bring and setup his
30 piece sonobe icosohedron.  It was made of 30" gold foil paper.
The final model was about 3 feet.  I thought it was pretty neat, but
I am his mother.  I will let others describe it better.  He has
additionaly LARGE plans for next year.

Faye Goldman, mother of Brian and Rebecca Kolins.





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 09:22:20 +0200
Subject: Re: convention

On Fri, Jul 02, 1999 at 08:44:44AM +0200, Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:
> Heinz Strobl from Germany displayes some "Knotologie"- Models, geometric
> models folded from VERY long strips of paper. The basic technique is
> explained in "falter" No. 22, with soma cubes for examples (and I'm sure
> Sebastian will correct me here...).

Oh, of course I will. All I've seen of Heinz's work was done from
triangles and pentagonal knots (like the lucky knot), whereas the soma
cube is done from squares (in the style of Philip Noble's Flexicube.) I
doubt that he should have changed techniques, because triangles are much
more versatile than squares.

--
Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 10:53:55 +0100
Subject: Convention Re: Thanks to OUSA

madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM> sez

>
>In the way of thanks due re: Convention:  Thanks for allowing Eric Joisel to
>present your "model of  CRAB" at Convention.

This is the first I knew about it - what happened? Are you sure it was
my crab & not one of Eric's?

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos





From: Emma Jane Griffiths <emmajg@CUSTARD.ORG>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 13:07:01 +0100
Subject: Re: Rhinoceros models

Wow great design I like the 2 little horns :o)

emmajg*

On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Joseph Wu wrote:

> Some time ago (within the last month or so, I believe), there was discussion
> of the merits of various rhinoceros designs. I offer mine for comments.
> You'll find a photo, along with some design notes, at this URL:
> <http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Gallery/JWu2/rhino.html>.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
> t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
> w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca
>

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Emma Jane Griffiths
Mobile/SMS: 07971 083069
Fax: 07977016307
http://chocolate.custard.org





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 16:15:20 -0700
Subject: Re: (long) 3of5 OUSA 99 Convention Report

At 03:56 PM 7/2/99 -0400, <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>  wrote:

>After dinner I returned to the Hospitality area, where I had just
>missed the origami hat competition. I was just in time to get tagged by
>Anne LaVin to participate in the novelty competition though. ;-) This
>year the competition was less embarrassing than in some of the past
>years. There seemed to be some question/confusion over where the idea
>for this competition came from. I certainly heard no definitive credit
>given. Anyways, Michael LaFosse had created several models (4?) and the
>diagrams for one model fit on one side of a sheet of paper. So there
>were two different sheets, some contestants getting one, some getting
>the other. The competition was in pairs, and each pair of competitors
>received two sheets of kami and one business card. Each member of the
>pair had to fold one of the models. The trick was that the directions
>were printed on opposite sides of the sheet, and the sheet had been cut
>into about 10 (12?) pieces! So the first trick was to assemble the
>diagrams! It was fun, but hard, I thought. I wish I could recall who
>the winners were...

They were Mike Thomas and John Montroll. When asked to identify themselves
after winning, John claimed he was Mike and vice-versa. Perhaps that as the
source of your confusion...

Marc





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 18:56:22 +0100
Subject: Re: convention

Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE> sez

> because triangles are much
>more versatile than squares.

That's a controversial point of view - fold a square in half
(diagonally) & you get a triangle. Fold a triangle in half & you get
a... triangle!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos





From: David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 16:44:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Rhinoceros models

That's one awesome Rhino!  It looks like you're giving Montroll a run for
his money!  I can't wait to see the Black Rhino.

David





From: Barbra0336@AOL.COM
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 20:41:38 -0400 (
Subject: Re: 4th of July "Paper Poppers"

In a message dated 7-2-99 8:32:28 AM, pembroke_owner@YAHOO.COM writes:

<< Somebody taught me how to make a paper noise maker that popped open and
made noise when it was flicked with the wrist, I have forgotten how to
make it, does anyone know? >>

Try these sources:  THE WORLD OF ORIGAMI by Isao Honda p. 102; EASY & FUN
PAPER FOLDING by Johanna Huber & Christel Claudius p. 77 & 78;  ORIGAMI FOR
PARTIES by Kazuo Kobayashi & Makoto Yamaguchi  p. 16.  Have fun folding and
making noise!!
Barbara Ortiz





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 22:55:24 +0200
Subject: Re: convention

On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 06:56:22PM +0100, Nick Robinson wrote:
> > because triangles are much more versatile than squares.
> That's a controversial point of view - fold a square in half
> (diagonally) & you get a triangle. Fold a triangle in half & you get
> a... triangle!

I was speaking of folding ticker tape, Nick.

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From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 05:06:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [NO] Re: Flatland, Sphereland, and The Planiverse

At 11:46 AM 7/4/99 +0100, you wrote:
>Joseph Wu wrote:
>
><Ah, yes. I've read both "Flatland" and "The Planiverse". Very interesting
><reads, both of them. I wonder, though, where the link to origami is. In a
>2D
><universe, paperfolding would be reduced to folding an almost 1D line into
><various shapes, essentially a wire-bending exercise in 2D. Although we work
><with an almost 2D medium in 3D space, we cannot do any sort of meaningful
>2D
><origami in 2D space.
>
>I've often seen Flatland referred to in popular books explaining the
>concepts of modern physics - often by quite eminent scientists. They all
>seem to make what seems to me to be an elementary logical error - which
>Joseph also makes here - so he's in pretty good company either way.
>
>The point is that if you reduce an object to two dimensions it doesn't just
>become thin - even exceptionally thin - but ceases to have any thickness
>whatsoever. It therefore entirely ceases to exist as a viewable object,
>whichever angle you choose to view it from. In fact it becomes a plane - an
>entirely imaginary mathematical object which has no analogue in the real
>world - not even a sheet of paper.
>
>Dave Mitchell
>
>
Ok, Ok, Joseph and Dave, I stand corrected!  Origami isn't even in the realm
of a plane, since you can't see one, but origami paper is a close facsimile as
I'm going to get to visualizing a plane.  And even if it's done in 3D, why are
you taking it so literally?  As I pointed out in a previous post, or at least I
tried, the analogy has to do with stretching the imagination and I find that my
origami helps me to do that.  I'm always amazed at the different configurations
I can get from an "almost" flat sheet of paper!  Getting back to the story and
it's implications for society the author talked about things like education in
an allegorical fashion.  Females in Flatland were just lines remember?  Abbot,
in the end, even shows it's important to society to improve the education of the
females.  I wonder what he'd think of how far women have come in almost every
field of endeavor including space and how they are right beside the men?

Ria





From: Terry Buse <tbuse@VSTA.COM>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 09:12:59 -0700
Subject: favorite authors

Here's mine
    1. Dean Koontz
    2. Stephen King
    3. John Grisham
    4. Michael Crichton
    5. Clive Barker
    6. Jean Aul
    7. Tom Clancy





From: Evi <d.evi.l@MUENSTER.DE>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 09:23:35 +0200
Subject: Re: Rhinoceros models

>That's one awesome Rhino!  It looks like you're giving Montroll a run for
>his money!  I can't wait to see the Black Rhino.

>David

I can't wait to see the diagrams! :o)

Evi





From: David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 10:22:22 -0500
Subject: [NO] Re: favorite authors

Here's mine:

1. Robert Jordan
2. Leo Tolstoy
3. Charles Dickens
4. Terry Goodkind
5. J.R.R. Tolkein
6. Dostoevesky (apologize if I misspelled it)
7. Gregory Benford
8. Frank Herbert
9. Thomas Hardy
10. David Eddings

David





From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@FANTASYFARM.COM>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 10:34:50 -0400
Subject: Re: favorite authors

On 4 Jul 99, at 9:12, Terry Buse wrote:

Am I missing something...

> Here's mine
>     1. Dean Koontz
  [...]

I can't recall that Koontz, or any of the others on your list, had done
many origami books, did you post that to the wrong mailing list by
mistake?

  /Bernie\
--
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mailto:bernie@fantasyfarm.com     Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 11:46:14 +0100
Subject: [NO] Re: Flatland, Sphereland, and The Planiverse

Joseph Wu wrote:

<Ah, yes. I've read both "Flatland" and "The Planiverse". Very interesting
<reads, both of them. I wonder, though, where the link to origami is. In a
2D
<universe, paperfolding would be reduced to folding an almost 1D line into
<various shapes, essentially a wire-bending exercise in 2D. Although we work
<with an almost 2D medium in 3D space, we cannot do any sort of meaningful
2D
<origami in 2D space.

I've often seen Flatland referred to in popular books explaining the
concepts of modern physics - often by quite eminent scientists. They all
seem to make what seems to me to be an elementary logical error - which
Joseph also makes here - so he's in pretty good company either way.

The point is that if you reduce an object to two dimensions it doesn't just
become thin - even exceptionally thin - but ceases to have any thickness
whatsoever. It therefore entirely ceases to exist as a viewable object,
whichever angle you choose to view it from. In fact it becomes a plane - an
entirely imaginary mathematical object which has no analogue in the real
world - not even a sheet of paper.

Dave Mitchell





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 12:16:49 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Favorite Authors

One of my very favorite authors is:
"Traditional".   ;-)))

Hope everyone has a festive Fourth!

Dorothy





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 13:10:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Top 10 models

My ten favorite models.
Maybe.
In no order:

Thoki Yenn's triangular box is elegant of construction, well balanced and
shows off the chosen paper to it's best advantage.

Toshikazu Kawasaki's new rose, for its beauty.

James Sakoda's bird base rose for its cost efficiency: great beauty
combined with simplicity of folding.

Tomoko Fuse's nautilus shell.

The traditional crane.

Robert Lang's Tyrannosaurus Rex puppet because it is witty, and its teeth
have delighted hundreds of children in Minnesota alone.

Toshie Takahama's star from Quick and Easy Origami Christmas, or Glenda
Scott's web page.

Shuzo Fujimoto's cube because it is magical to form.

Tom Hull's Five Intersecting Tetrahedra.

Michael LaFosse's butterflies, maybe the Origamido Butterfly,
specifically.

That's today's top 10. I wonder what I forgot.

-Jane





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1999 22:34:32 -1000
Subject: [Fwd: Classes?]

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I am in the Maryland/Washington D.C. area and would like to know if there
are any classes I can take or even a video I could buy to learn more about
Oragami. Thank you!





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1999 22:46:21 -1000
Subject: Re: Classes?

Paul & Jan Fodor wrote:
>
> Purchasing wrote:
> >
> > I am in the Maryland/Washington D.C. area and would like to know if there
> > are any classes I can take or even a video I could buy to learn more about
> > Oragami. Thank you!
>
> I don't know if I forwarded this message correctly the first time, so if
> I did it twice...so sorry.  I know there are appropriate people who
> could help this person and maybe even make a sale so please be my
> guest.  Aloha, Jan





From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@TESSELLATION.COM>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 12:22:20 -0400
Subject: Diagrams for models in the Exhibition

Does anyone know if any of the following models (which I saw at the OUSA
Exhibition) have diagrams anywhere?

by Steve     Biddle - Soma Cube
by Winson    Chan - Dodecahedron
by Rocky     Jardes - Fluted Cube; Fluted Stellated Octahedra
by           Kawasaki - Iso Area Coasters
by Yoshihisa Kimura - Jungle Gym
by Juan      Lopez-Figuera - Estrella
by Paulo     Mulatinho - Kaleidoscope
by J. C.     Nolan - Braided paper
by Russell   Sutherland - Fiesta Gourds
by Michael   Thomas - tessellations, flat stars
by Arnold    Tubis - Boxes
by Martin    van Gelder - Gear Wheels
by Joseph    Wu - Sunburst picture frame
by Janet     Yelle - Prismatic star
by Thoki     Yenn - Rectangulum; Quadratum; DNA Molecule

Many thanks in advance!

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From: List Andrew Borloz <Cooknfold@AOL.COM>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 20:37:22 -0400 (
Subject: Correction - 1999 Annual Collection

On Wed June 30 1999, Andrew Borloz wrote:

>Nope. It's Marc Kirschenbaum's violinist. In my opinion, this model, Michael
>Wrenn's bicycle, Robert Lang's pianist, and Herman Van Goubergen's skull,
all >together make the book worth more than the price of admission...

Ooops - a glaring error. It's Robert Lang's organist, not pianist, that is in
the 1999 Annual Collection. Mea culpa...

&rew





From: List Andrew Borloz <Cooknfold@AOL.COM>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 20:39:45 -0400 (
Subject: [NO] Re: Convention Experience

In response to D'gou's questions regarding several events:

The room signs were reused from last year's convention. However, we had to
have new ones made (I wrote them with black marker) for the rooms that we
never had before. I was not in charge of the convention signage - the rooms
were assigned, I believe, at the last minute. I wondered too, D'gou, if this
could be done in advance - I will speak to someone in charge.

The dance shows were held before the novelty competition (hat design contest)
in the hospitality area. I hope someone else will tell the names - I can't
remember them myself.

Corrections:

1. I inadvertently mispelled my sign language interpreter's (Patty) last name
- it's Groder not Grodner.

2. I mentioned that the ongoing construction in the hospitality area (Friday
section of the brief summary of my convention experience) was halted. It was
stopped by someone else - I don't want to give the wrong impression that I
halted it.

&rew





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 23:41:29 +0200
Subject: Sv:      Diagrams for models in the Exhibition

>Does anyone know if any of the following models (which I saw at the OUSA
>Exhibition) have diagrams anywhere?

>by Thoki     Yenn - Rectangulum; Quadratum; DNA Molecule

Answer to Robert Allan Schwartz

Diagrams  for Rectangulum and DNA Molecule
can be found on www.thok.dk

Tthere is a picture of Quadratum made of $$ bills
by  Andrew Hans, www.thok.dk\billumu.html
there is no diagram for it
but it can be made by the method shown for
Magic Rings (Umulius Rectangulum)
and Diabolic Frame. www.thok.dk\diabolus.html

Regards

THOKI YENN





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 23:54:40 +0200
Subject: Re: Diagrams for models in the Exhibition

On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 12:22:20PM -0400, Robert Allan Schwartz wrote:
> by Steve     Biddle - Soma Cube

In "The New Origami", if I'm not mistaken.

> by           Kawasaki - Iso Area Coasters

You probably refer to the ones in "Origami for the Connoisseur" by
Kunihiko Kasahara.

> by J. C.     Nolan - Braided paper

On ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/models/*/braided.ps. (Since Maarten
re-organized the ftp directories, I never know where the individual
diagrams went to.)

> by Martin    van Gelder - Gear Wheels

Also on ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/models/*/gearweel.ps.

HTH.

--
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                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 08:35:18 +0100
Subject: Women and origami

Ria's latest posting about Flatland and raising how far women's status has
risen in society reminded me of some interesting discussions I had with
Wayne Brown a few years ago.

The BOS has traditionally been almost entirely dominated by men. This isn't
to say there aren't influential women members - Iris Walker, Penny Groom and
Joan Homewood being perhaps the most prominent examples - but the fact
remains that the majority of the council positions have always been filled
by men, and the majority of creative folders in the society are men as well.

This doesn't appear to be the case with other origami societies. Wayne
suggested to me that perhaps the reason for this was that the BOS approach
to origami was one of 'problem-solving' (within specified rules) rather then
'freely creative' (pushing back the boundaries). It seems to me there's
something in this, but I'd be interested to hear what others think.

Dave





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 10:03:29 -0700
Subject: Re: Rhinoceros models

At 16:44 99/07/03 -0500, David wrote:
>That's one awesome Rhino!  It looks like you're giving Montroll a run for
>his money!  I can't wait to see the Black Rhino.

At 09:23 99/07/04 +0200, Evi wrote:
>I can't wait to see the diagrams! :o)

I still need to take a good picture of the black rhino. For some reason, the
photos of the white one always turn out reasonably well, but not the black!

Diagrams? Me? 8)

Actually, once I get all the relevant photos together, I'll be doing a
webpage about the "evolution of origami ungulates", tracing the progression
from the Brill/Kasahara/Montroll rhino base to my own white and black rhinos
to the Cape water buffalo and then to the Chinese water buffalo. There will
be crease patterns, but no diagrams...at least not yet. 8)

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From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 10:06:23 -0700
Subject: Re: Women and origami

> This doesn't appear to be the case with other origami societies. Wayne
> suggested to me that perhaps the reason for this was that the BOS approach
> to origami was one of 'problem-solving' (within specified rules) rather
then
> 'freely creative' (pushing back the boundaries). It seems to me there's
> something in this, but I'd be interested to hear what others think.

What are these so-called 'specified rules' ? Good problem solving should go
beyond rigorous analysis, and into gestalt. Mathematics ultimately will fail
in its role as descriptor of the universe, as we realize that reality is the
sum of more parameters on different scalar levels converging than any
rigorous method could keep up with. The firmer you try to hold reality, the
more it squirms out between your fingers. I prefer to see origami as a
zen-state thing, rather than an excersize in pure reason. All the best-c





From: Joyce Saler <ladyada@TIAC.NET>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 10:40:38 -0400
Subject: Re: Book origami and maths

Ronald:
The following listing is from The Source. www.origami-usa.org

Franco/UNFOLDING MATHEMATICS WITH ORIGAMI:  Detailed folding and assembly
instructions for  16 activities.  Excellent for high school geometry and
algebra teachers as well as middle school; has practical   classroom tips
that range from supplies needed, grading students work, philosophy of
creators to models,  diagrams and much more. 115 pp. PB. (S-I) #B10-390.
$17.95

The woman who gave the workshop was the editor of this book.

Joyce





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 11:34:25 +0200
Subject: Sv:      Re: Classes?

Kalmon  blowing his Trombone again
and giving free advice to all:

>Paul & Jan Fodor
>> > I am in the Maryland/Washington D.C. area and would like to know if there
>> > are any classes I can take or even a video I could buy to learn more about
>> > Oragami. Thank you!

One of the best courses you could take
and do it right in your own home
is to study the Homepage of Thoki Yenn.
www.thok.dk
and if you want a video that will show you
all the fun you can have from Origami and Kirigami
have a look at
http://www.bornholmershoppen.dk/videorig.html
and read what John Smith of London says about this video.

Regards from

The great and Glorious Kalmon van Balticum





From: "Michael J. Naughton" <mjnaught@CROCKER.COM>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 12:27:02 -0400
Subject: [NO] - OUSA Convention (Long)

Some very personal notes from OUSA Convention '99:

There's no way I could capture all of the things
that happened last weekend, so I'll just give some
of my personal highlights:

FIT Dorms - my friend Cyril Tessier and I stay in
the coed dorms, which seemed a little grungier this
year. Lucky we don't spend much time in the room!

Exhibition - simply wonderful. As someone who can
remember conventions of a decade ago, with models
crowded on to one set of metal shelves in the
basement of the American Museum of Natural History,
it's amazing to see how this has expanded. This
year had everything from realistic flowers by
DelRosa Marshall and animals by Eric Joisel to
higher math by Tom Hull and Rives, plus big by
Aldo Putignano Brian Kolins, small by Janet Yelle
and Doug Caine (and others), dollar bills, toys --
the list goes on and on. Every time I went back I
saw something new. It would be great if someone could
do a video walk-through, with interviews with the folders!

Classes - The Model Menu seemed bigger and better,
and it also had a wide selection. Since I was teaching
two workshops and wanted to have plenty of unstructured
time, I only took two, but they were both gems. On
Saturday, Roz Joyce taught her "Citibank Wabbit", which
has been featured in newspaper ads about that financial
institution. The model was neat, but for me the best was
Roz's running commentary on the history of the project
(when her original realistic rabbit was rejected, she was
told "You've made a rabbit out of a dollar bill. We want a
dollar bill that changes into a rabbit.") Then on Sunday,
I took Thoki Yenn's "Rectangulum" with the BOS's Rick Beech,
who seems to have graduated from the Monty Python School for
Teachers. Again, the model was great, but the experience
was priceless. I don't know who was funnier, Rick or the
class (after Mr. Beech referred to the "fag end" of the
model, someone commented "You're using all those British
slang terms, just like they do in England!" Who says we
Yanks aren't a cosmopolitan lot?)

Non-Classes - as usual, I learned more outside of class than
I did in class, including two wonderful Fuse models (a fancy
cube and a thirty-piece star-ball -- I don't know their official
names). Also "Change of Heart" (which Charles Knuffke was kind
enough to give me diagrams for in one of those serendipitous
moments when met him in the exhibit hall), a neat little
twirling toy by Yami Yamaguchi, "Two-Colored Ornament" by
Frances LeVangia, how to thread the four rotating cubes from
DelRosa Marshall, and "Morning Glory" - a stupendous Russian
90-piece modular that Mark Kennedy offered as a Simple 45-minute
class (way to go, Mark!). And I'm sure once I get around to
dumping out my boxes, I'll find some more. . . .

Politics - much too big and important a subject to summarize,
but suffice it to say I got the impression that there are an
awful lot of people who care deeply about OUSA and paperfolding
and paperfolders generally, and I left the convention feeling
more optimistic than when I arrived that constructive ways will
be found to resolve (and accommodate) the various differences.

Second Most Memorable Moment and Folding Buddy Story - my
friend Vedder Wright had signed up to be a folding buddy,
but he hadn't found the person who was assigned to him on
Friday night, so we were sitting discussing what do do when
she suddenly appeared. Her ability to find Vedder in that
crowd of people seemed amazing enough, but then she started
asking questions, and the subject turned to the diagnostic
session (which is intended to give new folders some sense of
their ability level, I gather). She seemed concerned, saying
that she has been folding in isolation and had no idea how
she rated against other folders. When we asked her what she likes
to fold, she said she had some examples and proceeded to pull
a Montroll stegosaurus and several other equally complex models
out of her backpack. As we commented that she seemed to be
fairly skilled, she said "I can only fold models by Montroll and
Lang". As our jaws dropped, she continued, "Their diagrams are so
easy to follow. I can't figure out the other ones!" After catching
our breaths, we warned her that she might get some funny looks
if she kept saying that, but that we didn't think she needed to
worry about her folding ability. . . .

Most Memorable Moment - My friend Cy won second prize in the
Funny Hat contest Saturday night with a contraption that
featured dollar-bill fish hanging around his head, and as
he modeled it he made swimming motions with his hands. Cy is
an extremely young seventy-three-year-old, so this was a
sight in itself, but the next day as we were leaving the dorms
we caught sight of Tomoko Fuse (who judged the contest). She
took one look at Cy, grinned broadly as only she can, and began
making swimming motions with her hands as she walked along
West 27th Street. . . .

Overall - another great convention. Hats off and thanks to everyone
who made it possible





From: Eric Andersen <ema@NETSPACE.ORG>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 13:54:53 -0400
Subject: mathematics will fail?

On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Christopher Holt wrote:

>Mathematics ultimately will fail
>in its role as descriptor of the universe, as we realize that reality is the
>sum of more parameters on different scalar levels converging than any
>rigorous method could keep up with.

Wow, there goes my college education...why didn't the admissions
department tell me that???

-Eric :-P

PS. I'm guessing that Tom Hull will have an interesting response to
this...

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From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 22:03:26 +0800
Subject: Book origami and maths

DORIGAMI@AOL.COM wrote:

The class I enjoyed most was on Monday by a woman from California who
has
written a book on Origami and Math.  She had such creative ideas to use
and
wonderful examples of models.....I think the math of Origami intrigues
me
most.  I think that the math of Origami has made it a thinking mans game
and
much more scientific.  I am so glad that this art has taken this
direction..

Does anyone know the title of this book, and where I can buy it (through
mail order)?

regards.





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:26:50 +0800
Subject: Re: Book origami and maths

Joyce:

Many thanks - this is a very useful book indeed.

Joyce Saler wrote:
>
> Ronald:
> The following listing is from The Source. www.origami-usa.org
>
> Franco/UNFOLDING MATHEMATICS WITH ORIGAMI:  Detailed folding and assembly
> instructions for  16 activities.  Excellent for high school geometry and
> algebra teachers as well as middle school; has practical   classroom tips
> that range from supplies needed, grading students work, philosophy of
> creators to models,  diagrams and much more. 115 pp. PB. (S-I) #B10-390.
> $17.95
>
> The woman who gave the workshop was the editor of this book.
>
> Joyce





From: David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 14:33:37 -0500
Subject: Re: mathematics will fail?

I disagree with mathematics as descriptor of the universe.  To me
mathematics is an art of logically structuring thought and giving order to
ideas.  I see mathematics as something more metaphysical.  I thought it was
the purpose of science, not mathematics to describe the universe.
Certainly mathematics is a tool to that purpose, but not as merely a means
to an end.

David





From: David <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 14:51:59 -0500
Subject: Ant and Lobster

I have a few questions.  Lang's ant is a wonderful fold in it it's
simplicity yet as a great 3d shape and the right number legs, etc. but all
of the ants that I've noticed have longer legs than this ant.  Is there a
species that matches Lang's ant?  Also does anybody have any ideas on how
to fold longer legs?  I've been working on Montroll's American Lobster.
It's a fun fold as you guys well know, but a little long.  Anyhow it seems
to me that the tail is not long enough, I might be thinking of a different
lobster, but if a waiter brought you that lobster for $15 and the tail was
that short you might get angry (especially if it was folded from paper,
even wetfolded, just kidding :) ) what I'm interested in is if anyone out
there has any ideas on a simple procedure to trick the eye into making it
seem bigger than it is?  Yeah for Montroll precreasing everything, if not
for that I might not be able to fold some of the parts, at least nicely.
Too make sure, I'm not bashing those models by Lang and Montroll, I simply
would like to tweak them as I have that bad habit of doing.

By the way I've found an interesting variation on the Kawasaki shell (yes,
I know I'm obsessed):

after the preliminary fold, on one side only valley fold up in half.  Do
the rest of the shell but the spiral only uses three flaps.  Pull out that
fourth one and open it, tuck the shell inside so that you have a spiral and
then a case that opens up.  I'm thinking some kind of lock probably using
closed sinks are in need so that when you pivot the small shell into the
opening it stays in place but I haven't thought about how to do it.  If
anyone figures out a way, let me know.

I checked out Fuse's Origami Boxes, those boxes are pretty neat!

Happy folding, and keep sending in those top ten I'm very intersted as I'm
sure others are too.

David

"What are you braindead?  I'm not going in there with two jedi!  Send a droid."





From: Lerlin Woodrow <Langwood@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 14:52:08 -0400
Subject: SIDECAP (Urgent)

-------------Forwarded Message-----------------

From:   Lerlin Woodrow,
To:     Origami List, INTERNET:ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU

Date:   03/07/99 20:35

RE:     SIDECAP (Urgent)

Help!!!!!
Anyone know of a diagram for a sidecap?  I'm told it was worn in the RAF in
'those' days. :-)
Desperately needed for a school concert.  Fingers crossed that such a
diagram exists.
Direct mail welcome.

Thanks
Lerlin





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 14:56:10 -0700
Subject: Re: Rhinoceros models

At 22:10 99/07/05 +0200, Sebastian wrote:
>Why don't you simply take the picture of the white rhino and invert the
>colors to obtain a black rhino?

Because it's not simply a colour difference but a morphological one
(different species, don't you know).

>> There will be crease patterns, but no diagrams...
>That has to be sufficient. :-)

But is it necessary? Oops...sorry...jumped into the Mathematics discussion
for a moment there. 8)

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From: Russell Sutherland <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 15:30:55 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Diagrams for models in the Exhibition

In a message dated 7/4/99 3:41:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
notbob@TESSELLATION.COM writes:

<< Does anyone know if any of the following models (which I saw at the OUSA
 Exhibition) have diagrams anywhere?

by Russell   Sutherland - Fiesta Gourds >>

I am currently working on diagrams for this model.  I am hoping to have it
published in OUSA's PAPER in the near future.

Thanks for asking.

Sincerely,

Russell Sutherland
AKA: LoneFolder





From: Stephen Canon <Stephen_Canon@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:37:25 -0400
Subject: Re: mathematics will fail?

>>Mathematics ultimately will fail
>>in its role as descriptor of the universe, as we realize that reality is the
>>sum of more parameters on different scalar levels converging than any
>>rigorous method could keep up with.
>
>Wow, there goes my college education...why didn't the admissions
>department tell me that???
>
>-Eric :-P
<snip>

Well, Eric, I wouldn't worry just yet; after all, even if we can't describe
this universe, we can always keep inventing new ones... :)  (And who
decided that the (a?) role of mathematics was to describe the universe?
I've always thought that's why we had physicists.  I've never heard a thing
about this "describing the Universe" bit in any of my classes...)

-Steve *the "decidedly-not-applied" mathematics major* Canon





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:46:32 -0700
Subject: Re: Rhinoceros models

At 18:52 99/07/05 -0400, Bob Stack wrote:
>The convention was, as usual, great!  There was one thing missing, for me and
>I think everyone else, namely Joseph Wu.

Thanks, Bob. I wish I could have been there, too.

>I missed pestering him for more
>submissions to the annual collection.

Yes, I know. Haven't you noticed that I'm always running away from you? <grin>

>I and the rest of the attendees missed
>him for his wonderful contribution to the quality of the convention and to
>origami.  Joseph, you must come next year!!!!!!!!

I'll do my best. I'd like to visit a convention on continental Europe,
though. I've never had the chance to do that before.

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