




From: Susan Dugan <florafauna@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:38:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Complex Frog Base Model

>
> _,_
> ____/_\,) .. _
> --____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
> /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
> __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
>

>
>Eric wrote to : Jerry D. Harris:

>I thought of that because of the sketch at the end of your mail.

SOOOO thats what it is !!!!!
>
> _,_
> ____/_\,) .. _
> --____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
> /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
> __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

Hoppit





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:45:27 -0700
Subject: Re: Keeping Fish Upright

Sonia

Can you fold a small wire into the model?  That would give you a way to set
the model into the marbles thus stabilizing it.

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson

-----Original Message-----
From: Wu, Sonia <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 2:09 PM
Subject: Keeping Fish Upright

>For my brother's wedding I'm making little goldfish (from Kasahara's
>Creative Origami) and dispalying them in little goldfish bowls.  The
>bowls are lined with blue marbles and filled with irridescent/"clear"
>plastic or mylar strands.  The strands are a little bit like Easter
>basket "grass" packing material.
>
>Am having trouble getting the fish to remain upright in the plastic
>strands.  Any suggestions?
>
>Sonia Wu





From: Edith Kort <ekort@MCLS.ROCHESTER.LIB.NY.US>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:40:12 -0400
Subject: Hello Toronto Club

Hello to the Toronto Club,

Sorry to make this a public post, but Peter M, who replied to me, my
emails to you are bounced back.

Hopefully we can arrange a meeting between the Rochester Club and the
Toronto club.  Would you be willing to host a Saturday session - or
would you like to come down here for a Saturday session?  We thought
that if we did a Saturday (or even Sunday) session it would be possible
to fold together, and avoid an overnight situation.  We would be glad to
teach a few models, and perhaps you would, too.

Hope we can arrange something while the weather is nice.

--
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Edith Kort                            716-377-6862
  Rochester Origami Club

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            Before you can be eccentric
      You must know where the circle is





From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@TESSELLATION.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:56:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Polite resquest on "Whoa on Yoshizawa -bashing"

>At 13:53 99/06/13 -0700, pat slider wrote:
>>From the description in Engel's books it sounds as if all his models are
>>being carefully preserved. I expect the best of his work will find a home
>>in a museum someday.  Given the paper quality his models should last
>>hundreds of years for generations to enjoy.
>
>He told me that he would donate his entire collection to UNICEF.

Wouldn't it be better if they were donated to Origami-USA, or some other
origami association?

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From: Edith Kort <ekort@MCLS.ROCHESTER.LIB.NY.US>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:24:59 -0400
Subject: Origami 'Sighting'

Is it an origami 'hearing' when you hear about it while listening to a
book on tape?

In a Carlotta Carlisle mystery by Linda Barnes, Carlotta, a private
detective, is searching the home of a suspect.  She describes:

"Marsha was incredibly organized, obsessively neat, which meant I had to
keep track of where everything was and put it back just so.  There was
no clutter in the womans life .... I mean, she folded her underwear
like origami.  "

Incidently, the reader of these books is excellent. I enjoy listening to
most of the books recorded by 'Recorded Books International'

--
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Edith Kort

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            Before you can be eccentric
      You must know where the circle is





From: "Wu, Sonia" <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:15:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Keeping Fish Upright/The Dorothy Engleman Seaweed Solution

Thanks for the suggestion.  I was planning to give something like that a
try today (Yoshizawa's Sousaku Origami has at least one kind of
waterplant diagram).  I'm hoping to avoid gluing even though it's for
display (and even though I (gasp) glued little white paper-punch circles
onto the fish for eyes.

I've never been interested in decorating the origami once it's folded.
Perhaps this is an aberrant phase, but it's such a kick to give the fish
eyes and to draw color splotches on them.





From: "Wu, Sonia" <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:21:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Keeping Fish Upright/The Dawson Wiry Solution

Thanks for the suggestion!  I'd been considering some sort of little
lucite posts (not that I actually HAVE any), but wire sounds a good
compromise.  Maybe I'll try a combination of wire and seaweed (or
whatever is the equivalent for fresh water).

Sonia Wu





From: DonnaJowal@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:51:17 -0400 (
Subject: Origami "Hearing"

Edith Kort wrote:

"Is it an origami 'hearing' when you hear about it while listening to a
book on tape?"

Books on tape--I never thought of it--you can fold while reading!  That's
perfect.

Donna





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:08:06 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Origami "Hearing"

In a message dated 6/15/99 8:52:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
DonnaJowal@AOL.COM writes:

<< Edith Kort wrote:

 "Is it an origami 'hearing' when you hear about it while listening to a
 book on tape?"

 Books on tape--I never thought of it--you can fold while reading!  That's
 perfect.

 Donna

  >>
That's funny!  I always fold while "listening" to TV.  I am getting used to
"hearing" what's happening on the TV programs without actually watching since
I'm focusing my attention on the paper.  I think this is good practice for
when I get older and I lose  my vision.  Too bad I can't learn to fold
without looking at my paper.  Then I'd REALLY be prepared for my senior
years!  (coming up faster than I'd like to think about!)  :(   Oh, well...

June





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <102354.2222@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:09:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Complex Frog Base Model

Message text written by Origami List
>I guess your having trouble with your mail program as in mine it shows a T
rex on the left and a triceratops on the right. Try Pine as a mail reader
and you'll see.<

        Even without PINE or ELM, just configure your e-mail program to
display messages in a monospace font, such as Courier or Monaco, and all
ASCII graphics shall become clear!  8-D

 _,_
 ____/_\,) .. _
--____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
 /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 899-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2866
 102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: Eric Pernin <pernin2@ART.ALCATEL.FR>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:59:05 +0200
Subject: Re: Complex Frog Base Model

On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Susan Dugan wrote:

> >
> > _,_
> > ____/_\,) .. _
> > --____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
> > /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
> > __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
> >
>
> >
> >Eric wrote to : Jerry D. Harris:
>
> >I thought of that because of the sketch at the end of your mail.
>
> SOOOO thats what it is !!!!!

> > _,_
> > ____/_\,) .. _
> > --____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
> > /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
> > __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
>
> Hoppit
>

I guess your having trouble with your mail program as in mine it shows a T
rex on the left and a triceratops on the right. Try Pine as a mail reader
and you'll see.

Cheers

Eric





From: Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@EIEE.UNIVALLE.EDU.CO>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:04:21 -0500
Subject: Origami in Spanish

Hello.
I remember sometime ago, a discussion about people who speak spanish and
asked about origami in Spanish language.
I included a new page in my site when I compiled an incomplete reference
to origami (web pages) in Spanish. It is in whole Spanish and organized by
contries (includes Argentina, Colombia, Spain, Mexico, Peru, Venezuela,
Costa Rica).
It appears in my main page,
http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/origami.html by the item: "PGINAS
DE ORIGAMI EN ESPAOL".
Please, I want to read your comments and if you know about a page in
Spanish, send me the whole information.

Good luck,
Jose Tomas

     Jos Tomas Buitrago Molina M.Sc.
     buitrago@eiee.univalle.edu.co
     http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/origami.html

     "Origami y Robtica"





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:58:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Complex Frog Base Model

Eric Pernin wrote:
>
> On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Susan Dugan wrote:
>
> > >
> > > _,_
> > > ____/_\,) .. _
> > > --____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
> > > /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
> > > __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
> > >
> >
> > >
> > >Eric wrote to : Jerry D. Harris:
> >
> > >I thought of that because of the sketch at the end of your mail.
> >
> > SOOOO thats what it is !!!!!
>
> > > _,_
> > > ____/_\,) .. _
> > > --____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
> > > /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
> > > __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
> >
> > Hoppit
> >
>
> I guess your having trouble with your mail program as in mine it shows a T
> rex on the left and a triceratops on the right. Try Pine as a mail reader
> and you'll see.

or go to edit then preferences then to mail and newsgroups and
change to fixed width fonts if you are useing netscape, a
variation of same will work with IE4 too.

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:59:02 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Origami 'Sighting'

In a message dated 99-06-14 23:18:10 EDT,
Edith Kort cited:

> "... she folded her underwear
>  like origami."

Interesting coincidence. I just found

"The Pocket Household Encyclopedia",
"Compiled and Edited by N.H. and S.K. Mager",
    copyright 1951,
    Cardinal edition published August 1953,
    3rd printing March 1954,
    (printed by Pocket Books, Inc.)
diagram on page 72 subtitled
    "(1) envelope method of folding a shirt.
          The part A slips between the
           upturned cuffs and the shirt.
     (2) A simple shirt-folding method
          that can be applied to many
          other garments."

Aloha,
Kenneth Kawamura ( kenny1414@aol.com )





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:59:09 -0400 (
Subject: (NO) ASCII graphics, Clipmate utility (was Re: Complex Frog Base Model)

In a message dated 99-06-15 09:17:03 EDT,
Jerry D. Harris writes:

>         Even without PINE or ELM, just configure your e-mail program to
>  display messages in a monospace font, such as Courier or Monaco, and all
>  ASCII graphics shall become clear!  8-D

For some people, the e-mail program may not configure, and they may not wish
to switch programs. If they are running Windows 95 or Windows NT,
I have another suggestion. (My apologies for the length, I'm rambling.)

I use a multiple-clipboard utility shareware program called Clipmate 4.0
from THORNSOFT Development, http://www.thornsoft.com , which displays
with a monospace font (as opposed to the "proportional" fonts). I have my
system set up to run this program on startup, so it's running sort of in the
background, in Windows 95. So I just select and Copy the Ascii art or
whatever else needs it, then un-minimize the Clipmate window to view or
print.

This came in useful, because AOL 3.0 for Windows's browser doesn't seem
to let me change the display font.

Clipmate is a nice utility. It gives you a stackable clipboard, so a new
"Copy"
or "Cut" doesn't completely erase what was on the clipboard, lets you switch
between named clipboards and shuffle clips around and between clipboard
stacks, and, I just noticed a week ago, time- and date-stamps my clips,
so I know when I clipped them. My only complaint is that it lets me delete
clips too easily, w/o any UNDO.

And yes, I did pay to register Clipmate, and no, I have no financial interest
in the company, at least not that I know of, and am simply a happy user.

There are other similar programs around, I think. This was recommended
to me by my brother (? I think) and is good enough.

Besides, being a packrat, I have several clipboard stacks growing:
misc. New clips that need to be culled, sorted, and filed;
Tools for data entry, like my name and address, a string of digits to
    count line lengths with, a line of hyphens, and other stuff I
    don't wnat to re-type over and over;
Newsgroups, a list of newsgroup names I've looked at;
URLs for interesting websites that don't fit anywhere else;
Family Addresses, and phone numbers/e-mail addresses/URLs;
Friends and Neighbors Addresses , and etc.;
Origami-related clips, like origami e-mail addresses and URLs;
Addresses for another "club";
Addresses of "Services", usually businesses I have or might
need to deal with;
Misc. Addresses;
Misc. Text Notes;
Humor (storys and jokes); etc.
Mnemonics, a collection I started;
Instant Message (IM) sessions, because I habitually forget to
    turn logging on, the date stamp is nice to have for this one;
eBay notes on things I found while browsing thru eBay;
etc.

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura ( kenny1414@aol.com )

P.S. -- Sorry for the lengthy ramble. I hoped several of you might
be able to use this example somehow, if only as a source of
ideas. I'd be happy to receive complaints privately, so as not to
further distress the list.





From: Susan Johnston <oggy@NEDDY8.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:41:15 +0100
Subject: [NO] New email address

Hi!

I just liked to let you know (the people who may have kept my email address
     before - if there was any!) that I have a new address using Outlook
     Express instead of Hotmail.  This is it:
oggy@neddy8.freeserve.co.uk

I also did this email to see whether it would work

>From Susan Johnston

P.S> you can still send to SuperSuzy2000@hotmail.com for a little while as i
     will be checking that account anyway

P.P.S>  Sorry to bore you with information which you won't be interested in
     anyway!





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:01:59 +0200
Subject: Origami sighting in outer space

I just finished the book "Red Planet Run" by Dana Stabenow. Star
Svensdotter and her kids Sean and Patty are up on the planet Mars, and
Patty has some reusable washi with her:

"One day Sean found a tiny golden crane sitting serenely among the
cherry tomatoes, a brown hippopotamus grazing through the hyssop, a
silver samurai helmet perched on top of a cucumber. Another morning we
woke to a galley ceiling papered with a galaxy of stars- yellow giants,
red supergiants, brown dwarfs, silver globular clusters. A rocket ship
stood poised to enter this array over the door into the science station.
Patty must have used up all her paper, though, for the exhibit remained
only a day before vanishing, to reappear on the galley wall ten days
later as an intricate, many-towered castle with a blue moat and a dragon
breathing fire and smoke over it."

Matthias, far out





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:08:21 -0500 (
Subject: NO: ascii / fixed width / space fill

Even with a fixed width font these dinosaurs still come out as junk.
The problem is that the filler is not spaces but rather tabs and other
characters that only a browser can read.  Those of us with UNIX running
elm or Pine see only junk because the area between the edge and the first
dinosaur figure is not properly filled with spaces. (ascii number 32 IIRC)
( This is what I believe to be wrong with Mr. Harris' dinosaur pictures;
  I may be wrong.  :-)

>
> Eric Pernin wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Susan Dugan wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > _,_
> > > > ____/_\,) .. _
> > > > --____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
> > > > /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
> > > > __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Eric wrote to : Jerry D. Harris:
> > >
> > > >I thought of that because of the sketch at the end of your mail.
> > >
> > > SOOOO thats what it is !!!!!
> >
> > > > _,_
> > > > ____/_\,) .. _
> > > > --____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
> > > > /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
> > > > __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
> > >
> > > Hoppit
> > >
> >
> > I guess your having trouble with your mail program as in mine it shows a T
> > rex on the left and a triceratops on the right. Try Pine as a mail reader
> > and you'll see.
>
> or go to edit then preferences then to mail and newsgroups and
> change to fixed width fonts if you are useing netscape, a
> variation of same will work with IE4 too.
>
> Perry
>
> --
> pbailey@opencominc.com
> http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
> Diagrams!
> ICQ 23622644
>
>
>

--
 Douglas Zander                |
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
 Shorewood, Wisconsin, USA     |





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:58:05 -0500 (
Subject: Re: NO: ascii / fixed width / space fill

>
>        Well, I didn't use tabs in creating the pictures, but it's possible
> that somewhere across some cyberspace translator, something interpreted the
> spaces as tabs (that is, it saw a bunch of spaces next to each other and
> said "Aha!  Those are tabs!").  Sadly, I'm not nearly enough of a computer
> geek to help solve the problem...  8-C
>
>        Hoping we find a solution...

How is this for a solution?  I went through and changed all the wierd
characters that were giving some people problems and replaced them with
spaces with the "vi" text editor on a UNIX box.  To those people having
problems seeing his dinosaurs, are they clear now?  :-)

============= cut here ============================ cut here =================

                _,_
           ____/_\,)                    ..  _
--____-===(  _\/                         \\/ \-----_---__
           /\  '                        ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

                     Jerry D. Harris
                 Fossil Preparation Lab
          New Mexico Museum of Natural History
                  1801 Mountain Rd NW
               Albuquerque  NM  87104-1375
                 Phone:  (505) 899-2809
                  Fax:  (505) 841-2866
               102354.2222@compuserve.com

================== cut here ==================== cut here =================
--
 Douglas Zander                |
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
 Shorewood, Wisconsin, USA     |





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <102354.2222@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:34:02 -0400
Subject: NO: ascii / fixed width / space fill

Message text written by Origami List
>Even with a fixed width font these dinosaurs still come out as junk.
The problem is that the filler is not spaces but rather tabs and other
characters that only a browser can read.  Those of us with UNIX running
elm or Pine see only junk because the area between the edge and the first
dinosaur figure is not properly filled with spaces. (ascii number 32 IIRC)
( This is what I believe to be wrong with Mr. Harris' dinosaur pictures;
  I may be wrong.  :-)
<

        Well, I didn't use tabs in creating the pictures, but it's possible
that somewhere across some cyberspace translator, something interpreted the
spaces as tabs (that is, it saw a bunch of spaces next to each other and
said "Aha!  Those are tabs!").  Sadly, I'm not nearly enough of a computer
geek to help solve the problem...  8-C

        Hoping we find a solution...

 _,_
 ____/_\,) .. _
--____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
 /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 899-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2866
 102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: Deg Farrelly <DEG.FARRELLY@ASU.EDU>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:34:28 -0700
Subject: Video Diagram for Statue of Liberty Model

I am pleased to announce that the video diagram for David Shall's origami
model of the Statue of Liberty  (which has been out of print for several
years) is again available for purchase.

In this video David Shall's voice instructs the folding of the model through
each step.  The video runs approximately 2.5 hours.

So as not to abuse this discussion list, please contact me directly for
pricing, shipping, and payment information.

Please do not "Reply" to this posting, but contact me thru the AOL address
in the sig file below.

Thanx!

deg farrelly
Phoenix, Arizona  85029
E-Mail:  StickmanAZ@aol.com





From: Meristein@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:57:54 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Origami 'Sighting'

On that origami-folded underwear, I'll bet those double sink folds raise a
welt! Gives a whole new meaning to the term "diaper fold".

Merida
Gearing up for OUSA, 10 days and counting!





From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@DORSAI.ORG>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:05:59 -0400
Subject: Re: NO: ascii / fixed width / space fill

>
> How is this for a solution?  I went through and changed all the wierd
> characters that were giving some people problems and replaced them with
> spaces with the "vi" text editor on a UNIX box.  To those people having
> problems seeing his dinosaurs, are they clear now?  :-)
>
> ============= cut here ============================ cut here =================
>
>
>                 _,_
>            ____/_\,)                    ..  _
> --____-===(  _\/                         \\/ \-----_---__
>            /\  '                        ^__/>/\____\--------
> __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
>
PERFECT!
I finally see them :-)

--
---
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.org
sheldon_ackerman@fc1.nycenet.edu





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:45:45 -0700
Subject: Re: Puddle Jumpers (was helicopters)

At 09:21 AM 6/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>When I was growing up, we called these things "puddle jumpers."  The ones
>I've seen were carved out of pine and usually had a decent pitch to the
>rotors.  If you get the motion right, you can get these things to fly pretty
>high, but that puts a lot of stress on the model.  I also remember that they
>tend to land rather ungracefully because they are generally still spinning
>pretty fast when they hit the ground, so they sort of float down until the
>rod makes contact with the ground.  Once the rod touches the ground, it gets
>pretty ugly as the thing wipes out.

All of this discussion is purely acedemic, as I have just designed an
origami "Puddle Jumper."  I will be glad to teach it at the after hours
sessions at the OrigamiUSA Convention. No, it does not fly as well as my
wooden one, but it does work from 10" kami. When stiffer foil is used, it
flies even better. I find it to be more fun than the "real thing" as the
rang is smaller (giving me a fighting chance to catch the thing, and not
worry about loosing it in a tree), and it is less painful when I miss it
and it hits my face instead!

Marc





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:51:11 -0700
Subject: Origami sighting?

Hi All,

I recently got an email message (apparently originating from Israel)
requesting some information on some origami models he had seen on TV. The
models in question are my erotic series of origami, and my name must have
been mentioned, as this guy was apparently able to track me down. I was
unaware that my works were being used for television, and I have yet to get
more information on which program he saw it on. Does anyone out there know
what I am talking about? Thanks in advance, as I think this would make for
an excellent bullet for my resume.

Marc





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:07:58 +0200
Subject: Re: [NO] New email address

Susan,
At 20.41 15/6/1999 +0100, you wrote:

>I also did this email to see whether it would work

It works, but your Outlook needs an adjustment.... Look here:

>Attachment Converted: "D:\TERMINAL\INTERNET\EUDORA\ATCH-IN\NONewema"

After seeing more and more e-mail messages generated by Outlook Express
with BAD settings, I've resolved to send this notice to the people
concerned, and invite them to correct the problem as soon as they can.
There are two kinds of problems:

1) HTML FORMATTING - This is undesirable and annoying, as it produces
useless attachments which waste time and disk space (remember that HTML was
conceived for the WWW, not for e-mail !). Here is how to set Outlook properly:

Menu TOOLS-->OPTIONS-->SEND. Enable "Plain text" for "Mail sending format"
and "News sending format". Disable "Reply to messages using the format in
which they were sent".

More info's on this website:

http://www.ping.be/houghi/nohtml/

2) INTERNATIONAL CHARACTERS - If you format (intentionally or by mistake)
your text using foreign or odd characters, Outlook will use the
International character set which will convert some characters to an
unreadable mess like this:

?utf-7?B?VEhPUktJTEQgUytBTmctTkRFUkcrQU1VLVJE?=
+ADs-
+IBg-dipl+APY-ma

etc. Here is how to set Outlook properly:

Menu TOOLS-->Options -> Mail format -> Fonts ->International Fonts. Choose
"WESTERN" as character set.
--------------------------------

Thanks for your understanding ! Bye,
Roberto





From: Chinh Nguyen <chinhsta@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:16:11 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami sighting?

On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Marc Kirschenbaum wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I recently got an email message (apparently originating from Israel)
> requesting some information on some origami models he had seen on TV. The
> models in question are my erotic series of origami, and my name must have
> been mentioned, as this guy was apparently able to track me down. I was
> unaware that my works were being used for television, and I have yet to get
> more information on which program he saw it on. Does anyone out there know
> what I am talking about? Thanks in advance, as I think this would make for
> an excellent bullet for my resume.

Are you sure it was a TV show as in entertainment, and perhaps not some
News segment or craft show?  Erotic origami doesn't seem to lend itself to
TV very well (not b/c it's erotic, rather b/c unless you do a *real*
*real* close-up, it may be difficult to, ahem, "see" what the figure is
doing).





From: good man <jess2800@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:49:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami sighting?

Hi Marc:

Another possibility, pretty far out  I admit, but perhaps he saw it on
the Europeon equivalent of Webtv where your TV acts as an Internet
moniter.

                                  J.





From: sychen@EROLS.COM
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:54:03 -0800
Subject: Re: Puddle Jumpers (was helicopters)

Good job! Marc,
I surely love to see it.

--- Original Message ---
Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM> Wrote on
        Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:45:45 -0700
 ------------------
At 09:21 AM 6/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>When I was growing up, we called these things "puddle jumpers."
 The ones
>I've seen were carved out of pine and usually had a decent pitch
to the
>rotors.  If you get the motion right, you can get these things
to fly pretty
>high, but that puts a lot of stress on the model.  I also remember
that they
>tend to land rather ungracefully because they are generally
still spinning
>pretty fast when they hit the ground, so they sort of float
down until the
>rod makes contact with the ground.  Once the rod touches the
ground, it gets
>pretty ugly as the thing wipes out.

All of this discussion is purely acedemic, as I have just designed
an
origami "Puddle Jumper."  I will be glad to teach it at the after
hours
sessions at the OrigamiUSA Convention. No, it does not fly as
well as my
wooden one, but it does work from 10" kami. When stiffer foil
is used, it
flies even better. I find it to be more fun than the "real thing"
as the
rang is smaller (giving me a fighting chance to catch the thing,
and not
worry about loosing it in a tree), and it is less painful when
I miss it
and it hits my face instead!

Marc

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From: Marcia Joy Miller <marciajmiller@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 06:29:41 -0700 (
Subject: Pet tricks with Origami

Hello!

I am curious if anyone has taught their pet to do a trick with an origami
model or other interesting stories about pets and origami. I did a search on
the archives and did not find any matches.

I have taught our 20 lb. dog, Paisley, to balance Lewis Simon Modular
Cubes on her head.  She can balance up to three cubes at one time.
She looks very cute when she does the balance trick - she is very serious
about her responsibility.

Looking forward to your tails (pun intended)!

Marcia Joy Miller

_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com





From: Kimberly Shuck <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:11:31 -0700
Subject: Re: Pet tricks with Origami

My parrot likes to open and close origami boxes, preferably the ones with
locking flaps. This probably doesn't count though, because he taught himself to
do it. Although these days I encourage the behavior by putting things into them.

Kim

Marcia Joy Miller wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I am curious if anyone has taught their pet to do a trick with an origami
> model or other interesting stories about pets and origami. I did a search on
> the archives and did not find any matches.
>
> I have taught our 20 lb. dog, Paisley, to balance Lewis Simon Modular
> Cubes on her head.  She can balance up to three cubes at one time.
> She looks very cute when she does the balance trick - she is very serious
> about her responsibility.
>
> Looking forward to your tails (pun intended)!
>
> Marcia Joy Miller
>
> _______________________________________________________________
> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:20:42 -0700
Subject: wet folding!

Thanks for all those people who replied to my wet folding email eons back,
I've finally done it right!  I folded (as you can probably guess)
Kawasaki's shell.  I see nobody replied back with any tips on that yucky
fold on Lang's scorpion.  I guess I'm to assume that you guys have no
tricks up your sleaves regarding that.  Those legs are a pain in the ass,
and properly folding the body at the end is hard as well.  Well I'm off to
my Astrophysics final, if anyone has any advice on that scorpion step let
me know, because it took me like ten minutes last night to get it right.

David





From: Bill Clarke <llib@COMPUTER.ORG>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:15:14 +1000
Subject: Melbourne Papercraft convention

g'day all,

i received this message regarding a papercraft convention to be held in
Melbourne (Australia) late November.  if you are interested (especially
teaching or exhibiting), please contact the sender: Helen Jenkins
<hj@zip.com.au>.

cheers,
/lib
--
/lib: Bill Clarke CRC for Advanced Computational Systems ANU Australia
http://llib.tsx.org mailto:llib-at-computer-dot-org tel:+61-2-62798636
fax:+61-2-62798651 | GNU unix ML C++ X LaTeX MPI tcsh emacs XPilot KLF
mozilla KDD/DM XFiles StarTrek Goodies DrWho Asimov Bear Clarke Jordan
Lackey Martin Stasheff Volleyball Origami Cricket DeepPurple H&C Queen
PinkFloyd v1.2a s+d>r TW 1/0/pw Gfm 1? pp Animals 9 26 50.0% <14dec98>





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:24:49 -0700
Subject: Re: Wet folding Kawasaki's shell

>It's interesting that David Whitbeck wet folded Kawasaki's shell (I
>assume the Twist Snail Shell). I am preparing to teach this at the OUSA
>convention, and after I finished folding my shell for the model menu, I
>dampened the superfluous creases in the sides to smooth them out, and was
>pleased with the results. And of course, a no-glue way to fasten the top
>point is to dampen it slightly and twist. By the way, I am using washi
>decorated with acrylics. I would not want to wet kami to iron out creases.
>
>I tried this method after reading Michael LaFosse's post about uncreasing
>washi. Thanks, Michael!
>
>I do have another bit of advice for folding the shell. Put a square of
>scotch tape at the center of the wrong side. I thought I would ask my
>students to do this so that they would not suffer the frustration of
>ripped paper, since the center is a weak spot. But when I tried it as an
>experiment, to my surprise, the tape makes the bottom point stay very
>sharp, and not become wide and rounded.
>
>Now I've given away my biggest secret and no one will take my class!
>
>Enjoy whatever you are folding!
>-Jane

Interesting  I also found a way to keep the points at the center and not
spread out, but this is if you wet fold it.  Interlock two paperclips that
latch the four points to the center making sure that the big flaps have
already been pulled out.  I let it dry then of course they stayed there!
For the tip I attached a paper clip at the top after I twisted it.  Then I
let it dry for a little and took the clips off, then let it dry completely.
It was wonderful.  The funnest part was sinking and unsinking it so
easily!  I love wetfolding!

David





From: Kimberly Shuck <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:43:53 -0700
Subject: Re: SV:      Re: paper matters

Well, a good deal of my artwork has been through making paper. So... I guess
I'll wade in on this one. I respond well to very fine paper, paper with a
texture etc. But I also find that I enjoy folding things with paper that had
some other use. It amuses me when there are random words on the paper I am
using. This comment probably showcases my rather blue collar background and my
appreciation for prison art. I actually collect people's paper candy wrappers to
fold with. This is not in a cheap attempt to impress the unwashed masses of
inexperienced origami consumers... it's because as an artist I find the reuse of
materials can spark an interesting dialog between the viewer and the piece. One
of my favorites is to fold Kawasaki roses out of Beechnut gum wrappers. I find
that this creates a "this is not a rose" kind of energy that I find amusing. I
also like folding cocoons (my own design) out of handmade corn husk paper, which
I imagine is sophisticated enough to pass muster. Although, because I do not
press the paper in any meaningful way, or use additives to the pulp I cannot do
any wet folding with it. The concern for me, when choosing paper, is not what I
am trying to fold, but rather who my intended audience is. I have always found
that origami has a rather surreal appeal... and the surrealists encouraged
taking the familiar and making it strange. It might be interesting to fold roses
out of the rose page from a gardening catalog, for example. And Fuse's spirals
are interesting when folded out of paper with words on it because the words
become broken up and mysterious. But then, I like tin can art too, not really
very sophisticated.
Kim

Dino Andreozzi wrote:
>
> ----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----
> Frn: Antonio Rodriguez <aajrdguez@SPRYNET.COM>
> Till: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> Skickat: den 15 juni 1999 01:54
> mne: Re: paper matters (was RE: More about Butterfly competition! )
>
> > Origami paper is very good for folding, but improvisational origami, using
> > whatever you have at hand, is very satisfying as well.
>
> That depends of what you are going to fold. Easy models can be folded with
     almost every kind of paper, more advanced ones need paper that doesn't
     crack.
>
> > I find satisfaction isn't in the paper, it's in the looks you get from the
> > person you give it to.
>
> I wasn't talking about giving a model away. I'm talking about how much we
     know about the material we use. A painter tries all the time to use the
     right colours for his creation. Do we the same when we choose paper? I
     agree that people who know nothing a
 out origami get impressed if you fold a crane with a small piece of paper but
     honestly as an experienced paperfolder I love to see models folded with a
     VERY NICE piece of paper.
>
> Why is it so difficult to start a discussion about  paper?
> It is maybe because we know so little about it?
>
> Dino





From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:37:18 +0800
Subject: sightings and miscellany

last week on Chicago Hope (or it could have been ER - they run into each
other), the neurosurgeon who looks about 16 screamed at her male secretary
for doing origami rather than something more important - don't know what was
shown as I am another of those TV listeners (although I confess to doing
cross-stich at the time).

Regarding the Yoshizawa debate (ho hum) - I have to reiterate the other
aspect of Japanese culture that hasn't come up this time around - in Japan,
even though this is not quite as rigid with origami, if you have a sensei
you follow his/her work only.  When I introduced the work of other Western
folders in Momotani's classes it was OK as I was an odd foreigner, but it
would have been quite rude to show models of another top sensei.  I think
there is an aspect of this in dispensing great teaching to 'apprentices',
who are then expected to draw upon the style of the master in most Japanese
culture.  In addition, as I have also written before, although this appears
to limit the range of folds available, many great artists in Japan only
produce one or two styles of 'artefact' but that is done to perfection.  (I
met a living treasure who make only 2 types of wooden doll, exactly as his
father and grandfather had done, but this is how he has reached perfection
in his art).

Finally, and apologies in advance but I was waiting for someone else to
write this - as to the debate on elephant and Rhino folding - don't
elephants find it easier to fold paper with their trunks than poor
rhinos.......(tusk, tusk)





From: Gilad Aharoni <Gilad.Aharoni@ICC.CO.IL>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:44:04 +0300
Subject: Re: Origami sighting?

Hi Mark and all, I'm switching to DeLurk mode... (I've been lurking around
for quite a long time...)

Well - the TV show in question is called (very loosely translated) "Night
Mice", it's on every  Tuesday night here in Israel.

It deals with strange internet sites, mainly those of sexual or illegal
contents (they showed how you can forge credit card numbers, for example,
although they didn't actually give the site's address)...

Alas, I didn't get to see the show... but someone at work was sure to inform
me about  it the next morning, apperantly Zack Brown's pages were featured.

I'll try to get a recording of the show.

Well, I guess Mark is now a celebrity in Israel...

Cheers
                Gilad

On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Marc Kirschenbaum wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I recently got an email message (apparently originating from Israel)
>requesting some information on some origami models he had seen on TV. The
>models in question are my erotic series of origami, and my name must have
>been mentioned, as this guy was apparently able to track me down. I was
>unaware that my works were being used for television, and I have yet to get
>more information on which program he saw it on. Does anyone out there know
>what I am talking about? Thanks in advance, as I think this would make for
>an excellent bullet for my resume.
>
>Marc





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:48:59 -0400 (
Subject: Re: NO: ascii / fixed width / space fill

In a message dated 99-06-15 17:09:37 EDT, Douglas Zander writes
about Jerry D. Harris's sig (signature decoration):

> Even with a fixed width font these dinosaurs still come out as junk.
>  The problem is that the filler is not spaces but rather tabs and other
>  characters that only a browser can read.

What??? Son of a gun?!?!  You're right!

I'd gotten so used to the dinosaur skull he was using,
I hadn't tried to look at Jerry's sig in a long time.
Silly me! I just used Clipmate to view it, and you're right,
it's messed up. _sigh_

Aloha,
Kenneth Kawamura    ( kenny1414@aol.com )





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:49:02 -0400 (
Subject: Re: NO: ascii / fixed width / space fill

In a message dated 99-06-15 20:00:07 EDT, Douglas Zander writes:

> How is this for a solution?  I went through and changed all the wierd
>  characters that were giving some people problems and replaced them with
>  spaces with the "vi" text editor on a UNIX box.  To those people having
>  problems seeing his dinosaurs, are they clear now?  :-)
>

Much better!  I can see the T. Rex and the Triceratops now. Thank you.

Aloha,
Kenneth Kawamura  ( kenny1414@aol.com )





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:54:53 -0500
Subject: Wet folding Kawasaki's shell

It's interesting that David Whitbeck wet folded Kawasaki's shell (I
assume the Twist Snail Shell). I am preparing to teach this at the OUSA
convention, and after I finished folding my shell for the model menu, I
dampened the superfluous creases in the sides to smooth them out, and was
pleased with the results. And of course, a no-glue way to fasten the top
point is to dampen it slightly and twist. By the way, I am using washi
decorated with acrylics. I would not want to wet kami to iron out creases.

I tried this method after reading Michael LaFosse's post about uncreasing
washi. Thanks, Michael!

I do have another bit of advice for folding the shell. Put a square of
scotch tape at the center of the wrong side. I thought I would ask my
students to do this so that they would not suffer the frustration of
ripped paper, since the center is a weak spot. But when I tried it as an
experiment, to my surprise, the tape makes the bottom point stay very
sharp, and not become wide and rounded.

Now I've given away my biggest secret and no one will take my class!

Enjoy whatever you are folding!
-Jane





From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:31:15 +0900
Subject: Re: NOA contact

The e-mail address of NOA is  origami@tokio-eng.co.jp

 _ _ _ _ _
|         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
|_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
|         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
|_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
 If they keep on risking failure, they're still artists. (S.Jobs)





From: Eric Pernin <pernin2@ART.ALCATEL.FR>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:54:00 +0200
Subject: Re: NO: ascii / fixed width / space fill

Sorry to bother you again guys but I'm using Pine on a unix workstation
(sparcstation 5) and the dinosaurs display very well (no junk :).

Eric

On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Douglas Zander wrote:

> Even with a fixed width font these dinosaurs still come out as junk.
> The problem is that the filler is not spaces but rather tabs and other
> characters that only a browser can read.  Those of us with UNIX running
> elm or Pine see only junk because the area between the edge and the first
> dinosaur figure is not properly filled with spaces. (ascii number 32 IIRC)
> ( This is what I believe to be wrong with Mr. Harris' dinosaur pictures;
>   I may be wrong.  :-)
>
> >
> > Eric Pernin wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Susan Dugan wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _,_
> > > > > ____/_\,) .. _
> > > > > --____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
> > > > > /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
> > > > > __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Eric wrote to : Jerry D. Harris:
> > > >
> > > > >I thought of that because of the sketch at the end of your mail.
> > > >
> > > > SOOOO thats what it is !!!!!
> > >
> > > > > _,_
> > > > > ____/_\,) .. _
> > > > > --____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
> > > > > /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
> > > > > __________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
> > > >
> > > > Hoppit
> > > >
> > >
> > > I guess your having trouble with your mail program as in mine it shows a T
> > > rex on the left and a triceratops on the right. Try Pine as a mail reader
> > > and you'll see.
> >
> > or go to edit then preferences then to mail and newsgroups and
> > change to fixed width fonts if you are useing netscape, a
> > variation of same will work with IE4 too.
> >
> > Perry
> >
> > --
> > pbailey@opencominc.com
> > http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
> > Diagrams!
> > ICQ 23622644
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>  Douglas Zander                |
>  dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
>  Shorewood, Wisconsin, USA     |





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:13:19 -0400
Subject: Temporarily signing off...

Hello List,

Tomorrow I am temporarily signing off from the list, while I will be in the
USA for the Convention and a bit after that, for three weeks. So if anybody
wants to send something to me, do it to my regular e-mail address:

<peterbud@mail.datatrans.hu>

I will not check that, either, but I will surely get everything.

Another option is to send things to

<peterbud@hotmail.com>

just until 6/June (I will try to check it). Afterwards use the other addy.

Bye, Peter Budai





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:15:35 -0300
Subject: Re: wet folding!

>>From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>

>>Kawasaki's shell.  I see nobody replied back with any tips on that yucky
>>fold on Lang's scorpion.  I guess I'm to assume that you guys have no
>>tricks up your sleaves regarding that.  Those legs are a pain in the ass,
Sorry for the late answer---my mbox is overflowing. RJLang himself
mentioned long ago there are algorithmic methods for finding the 7ths
by folding only. However, I think using a protractor is much more
practical, besides leaving no crease marks.

>>my Astrophysics final, if anyone has any advice on that scorpion step let
Good luck.

>>me know, because it took me like ten minutes last night to get it right.
One last note: RJLang's newer scorpion in Origami Insects and their Kin
is IMHO easier, less paper-consuming, a little bit more realistic and needs
no difficult angle divisions.

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Russell Sutherland <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:37:12 -0400 (
Subject: Serial Killer Origami

I came across this bizarre listing on Ebay under origami today.  I couldn't
resist cutting and pasting the text to the list.

<CLIP>

CHARLES NG. California's infamous serial killer. Two color origami (paper
folding) by Charles Ng. A pair of hearts, nicely folded and well detailed,
approx. 3"x1.25" in size, uncommon and typically hard to obtain, unsigned,
INCLUDES our deluxe 3 color, hand-signed Certificate of Authenticity.
Absolutely guaranteed authentic for life, or DOUBLE your money back!
[$1 Shipping!] TERMS OF SALE: Winner pays with money order and includes $1
shipping. Payment is due upon notice from seller and must be received within
7 days, or negative feedback will be left. We reserve the right to cancel
bids from users with no or negative feedback.

[-FREE-] Overnight Delivery for single or multiple auction wins of $100 or
more.

THE BEST TRUE CRIME-CRIMINAL AUTOGRAPH AUCTIONS ON EBAY! No reserve prices,
low minimum bids, and only $1 shipping. See more of our auctions now, by
clicking above. Thanks everyone!

</CLIP>

Ng currently has two pieces of origami for sale... HEARTS and the word "LOVE"
... isn't it ironic..... don't you think? Note the LIFE-TIME GUARANTEE.

LoneFolder

DARE TO FOLD!!!!!!!!!!





From: Spider Barbour <spider@ULSTER.NET>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:46:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Pet tricks with origami

-- [ From: Spider Barbour * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Hi Marcia -- my dog Didymo doesn't actually do anything with origami, but
she poses for me and I design models of her.  I have four so far.  The first
is a two-piece model; the rest are one-piece models of her in different
poses:  lying flat, holding out her paw, howling at the siren.  When I get
them scanned I'll post them on my web page.  (My other dog doesn't inspire
any origami!)           Anita Barbour





From: Susan Dugan <florafauna@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:56:53 -0400
Subject: Re: NO: ascii / fixed width / space fill

 Douglas
thanks but its still "gobbledeyguck", well you get the idea I hope. I am on
MSN and use outlook express. I realy dont wont to change any settings (dont
rock the boat) I dont have any text problems (excepet thoes of my own
spelling) Untill there is a diagram I MUST have thats uses creatitave ascii
I'll just keep guessing thanks...

Hoppit

>============= cut here ============================ cut here
=================
>
>
>                _,_
>           ____/_\,)                    ..  _
>--____-===(  _\/                         \\/ \-----_---__
>           /\  '                        ^__/>/\____\--------
>__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
>
>                     Jerry D. Harris
>                 Fossil Preparation Lab
>          New Mexico Museum of Natural History
>                  1801 Mountain Rd NW
>               Albuquerque  NM  87104-1375
>                 Phone:  (505) 899-2809
>                  Fax:  (505) 841-2866
>               102354.2222@compuserve.com
>
>
>
>================== cut here ==================== cut here =================
>--
> Douglas Zander                |
> dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
> Shorewood, Wisconsin, USA     |





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:35:02 -0700
Subject: Re: NO: ascii / fixed width / space fill

Nope!  Still just a bunch of "gibberish"
MASD
-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: NO: ascii / fixed width / space fill

>>
>>        Well, I didn't use tabs in creating the pictures, but it's
possible
>> that somewhere across some cyberspace translator, something interpreted
the
>> spaces as tabs (that is, it saw a bunch of spaces next to each other and
>> said "Aha!  Those are tabs!").  Sadly, I'm not nearly enough of a
computer
>> geek to help solve the problem...  8-C
>>
>>        Hoping we find a solution...
>
>How is this for a solution?  I went through and changed all the wierd
>characters that were giving some people problems and replaced them with
>spaces with the "vi" text editor on a UNIX box.  To those people having
>problems seeing his dinosaurs, are they clear now?  :-)
>
>============= cut here ============================ cut here
=================
>
>
>                _,_
>           ____/_\,)                    ..  _
>--____-===(  _\/                         \\/ \-----_---__
>           /\  '                        ^__/>/\____\--------
>__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________
>
>                     Jerry D. Harris
>                 Fossil Preparation Lab
>          New Mexico Museum of Natural History
>                  1801 Mountain Rd NW
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From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:55:47 -0700
Subject: Re: Wet folding Kawasaki's shell

Jane, I'd still be interested in taking your class!!!!!!!!!!!
MASD
-----Original Message-----
From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 10:54 AM
Subject: Wet folding Kawasaki's shell

>It's interesting that David Whitbeck wet folded Kawasaki's shell (I
>assume the Twist Snail Shell). I am preparing to teach this at the OUSA
>convention, and after I finished folding my shell for the model menu, I
>dampened the superfluous creases in the sides to smooth them out, and was
>pleased with the results. And of course, a no-glue way to fasten the top
>point is to dampen it slightly and twist. By the way, I am using washi
>decorated with acrylics. I would not want to wet kami to iron out creases.
>
>I tried this method after reading Michael LaFosse's post about uncreasing
>washi. Thanks, Michael!
>
>I do have another bit of advice for folding the shell. Put a square of
>scotch tape at the center of the wrong side. I thought I would ask my
>students to do this so that they would not suffer the frustration of
>ripped paper, since the center is a weak spot. But when I tried it as an
>experiment, to my surprise, the tape makes the bottom point stay very
>sharp, and not become wide and rounded.
>
>Now I've given away my biggest secret and no one will take my class!
>
>Enjoy whatever you are folding!
>-Jane





From: Emmajg <emmajg@CUSTARD.ORG>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:16:48 +0100
Subject: Re: Fw: looking for graduation cap fold

Hello again
I've made the Graduation Hat, well 15 of them.
For all my classmates, as a good luck gift!

Thank you again to Mike

Http://chocolate.custard.org/origami/photo3.html

Emmajg*
-----Original Message-----
From: Emmajg <emmajg@CUSTARD.ORG>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: 11 June 1999 23:15
Subject: Re: Fw: looking for graduation cap fold

>Hello and thank you for all your help I now have a diagram and will attempt
>to fold it :o)
>thanks again to all especially Mike Naughton
>take care
>Emmajg*
>http://chocolate.custard.org/origami





From: Ronald Koh <ronkoh@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:52:48 +0800
Subject: Re: Pet tricks with Origami

Well, I have a pair of hamsters that do a great job turning origami into
bedding material, but I don't suppose that is what you're looking for
....

Marcia Joy Miller wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I am curious if anyone has taught their pet to do a trick with an origami
> model or other interesting stories about pets and origami. I did a search on
> the archives and did not find any matches.
>
> I have taught our 20 lb. dog, Paisley, to balance Lewis Simon Modular
> Cubes on her head.  She can balance up to three cubes at one time.
> She looks very cute when she does the balance trick - she is very serious
> about her responsibility.
>
> Looking forward to your tails (pun intended)!
>
> Marcia Joy Miller
>
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From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:18:43 -0700
Subject: Re: Serial Killer Origami

Hi Russell!

Why don't you contact Ebay and offer them some of your origami for
auction?

On second thought, not being a serial killer may be a definite strike
against you.

Dorothy





From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:28:53 -0400 (
Subject: Re: ReferenceFinder question

Peter wrote:

>>>>
Did anybody run ReferenceFinder successfully in Windows 3.11 so far (all I am
getting is an empty window), or is it intended for newer versions of Windows?
<<<<

I've only run it on Windows NT (the $%#!! machine they forced onto my desk at
work), so I don't know if it runs on any other flavor of Win. I invite anyone
with a Win 3.11 - compliant compiler to compile the source into a
3.11-compliant executable and send it to Maarten to add to the directory.

Robert
