




From: Garrett Alley <garrett@INFOSPACE-INC.COM>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 09:58:08 -0700
Subject: Re: New 'kid' on the block

Hi there!

I downloaded the diagrams for the Black Rhino (and read the
interview) last week, and I must say that the model is a
joy to fold! I particulary like the collapse at steps
26-27, very 'Winged Demon'-like...

Thank you very much for this interesting and fun fold!

-g-

>The Shumakovs have very graciously hosted some photographs, diagrams and
>an interview of my origami in a =91Guestroom=92 at =91Oriland=92,
>www.origami.aaanet.ru. Do drop in for more of me, and please let me have
>your views on the models and diagrams.
>
>Cheers.





From: Binzi <binzi@MUENSTER.DE>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 11:27:35 +0200
Subject: Re: Don't run Happy99

>If you've received a program called Happy99, do not run it.  It's a virus.
>If you've received this program, run the page attached and your computer
>will be back to normal.  The virus will not hurt your computer or disrupt
>your files but it does jam up email servers and newsgroups.

>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Program/1143/other.html

Thank you terry, this link helped us alot. But cleaning can make your system
hang.
Took us all night to fix it. My husband opened the file, because he thought
the warning was a joke. :o) hi, hi, hi,...

I'm happy to see, that the list is not only useful for origami but also for
other problems.

Happy folding!
Evi





From: Isa Miller <-isa-@EXCITE.COM>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 11:31:22 -0700 (
Subject: Re: NO:Sinister Characters.

On         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 05:58:28 EDT,         DLister891@AOL.COM wrote:

> I am appalled to find that by some lunatic quirk, my machine doesn't know
how
> to transmit a simple apostrophe. Instead, it substitues three characters:
a
> lower case "a" with a circumflex, a plain square and a small "TM"  or
> trademark sign. This occurs in several places, each one where an
apostrophe
> was intended.
>
> I composed my message in Microsoft Word and then transferred it to my
mail
> program via the clipboard. On previous occasions this has always
effectively
> converted the writing from Word format to Plain Text using standard ASCII
> characters.. But not this time!

David, the problem is caused by an incompatible font. If you stick with the
most common fonts, like Helvetica, or Times Roman, when you use Word, you
shouldn't have a problem.

There are so many fonts out there that it is impossible for a mail program
to keep up with them all. So they convert the best they can. Usually what
happens is that the special characters are lost in the translation.

Isa

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From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 11:57:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Realistic flying origami helicopter?

At 10:50 AM 6/4/99 +0200, you wrote:

>Marc Kirschenbaum wrote about his realistic helicopter designs. Now I
>wonder whether there are any realistic helicopter designs that actually
>fly well, either with fixed rotor blades that produce enough lift to act
>like the wings on traditional paper airplanes, or with rotor blades that
>actually rotate freely.

Huh! That IS a challenge, yes, no doubt.

>The big problem is, I think, how to fix the rotor to the body of the
>helicopter so it can rotate freely,

The key word is "fix". I have no idea how to make body-independent rotors
form the same sheet of paper. The one that comes to mind is rather awkward:
Fold the copter so that there's some -much? :-)- paper between the rotors
and the body, then twist the rotor up so that some flexible energy (no, not
an esoteric buzzword, I just don't know the right word in English for the
kind of energy that's stored in tongue-piece --this is the wrod that my
dictionary tells for that springy coil-- gee, now comes the closing
bracket). But well, I don't bet my life that it will fly...

>(but yes, using a separate sheets of paper for the rotor blades is OK <g>).

That's not so much help, becuse you still would have to fix them to the
body and then you arrived to the point where you started.

The halfway solution would be to go about the problem in the opposite way
(what's this? :-) , that is, to create a glider that looks like a
helicopter. Then raise it and it will spin down. But, actually, nothing is
perfect, and so woudn't be this, because the helicopter would turn, too,
together with the rotors (according to this, do not fold any tail rotor,
and so you can say "It's just like the real one!").

Have a good flight!

Peter Budai





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 11:57:37 -0400
Subject: Re: NO  Happy99 on Macintosh

At 10:51 PM 6/4/99 -0700, you wrote:

>No it doesn't, it was meant for the Windows Microsoft operating system.
>Just like most of the bugs floating around.  Yeah for Macs and yeah for
>Unix!  And all other non-microsoft operating systems!

Not as if I would work for Microsoft, but let me say that as you mentioned,
that specific hurts Windows because it was written for ("meant for")
Windows, and that has to do more with the programmer than the type of the OS.

Note that I'm not telling "Microsoft is the best", I just pointed out that
it depends rather on the programmer (or here "virgrammer") what a virus can
do.

Peter Budai





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:14:34 -0700
Subject: Re: update on black belt

> Dear Susan -- my husband, Spider, informs me that the joke about having a
> black belt in origami was not original with our friend Cyril, but came
from
> Woody Allen, back in the old days when he was a stand-up comic.  It was
part
> of his nebbishy character, apparently, to use a reference to origami to
> defend himself!
>         And all these years I gave credit for the line to Cyril.
>                 Anita Barbour

I first heard the joke as "Don't mess with me, I've got a black belt in
Hibachi", but I think it's funnier as "origami", all the best-c





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:45:48 -0700
Subject: Re: Realistic flying origami helicopter?

>At 10:50 AM 6/4/99 +0200, you wrote:
>
>>Marc Kirschenbaum wrote about his realistic helicopter designs. Now I
>>wonder whether there are any realistic helicopter designs that actually
>>fly well, either with fixed rotor blades that produce enough lift to act
>>like the wings on traditional paper airplanes, or with rotor blades that
>>actually rotate freely.
>
>Huh! That IS a challenge, yes, no doubt.
>
>>The big problem is, I think, how to fix the rotor to the body of the
>>helicopter so it can rotate freely,
>
>The key word is "fix". I have no idea how to make body-independent rotors
>form the same sheet of paper. The one that comes to mind is rather awkward:
>Fold the copter so that there's some -much? :-)- paper between the rotors
>and the body, then twist the rotor up so that some flexible energy (no, not
>an esoteric buzzword, I just don't know the right word in English for the
>kind of energy that's stored in tongue-piece --this is the wrod that my
>dictionary tells for that springy coil-- gee, now comes the closing
>bracket). But well, I don't bet my life that it will fly...
>
>>(but yes, using a separate sheets of paper for the rotor blades is OK <g>).
>
>That's not so much help, becuse you still would have to fix them to the
>body and then you arrived to the point where you started.
>
>The halfway solution would be to go about the problem in the opposite way
>(what's this? :-) , that is, to create a glider that looks like a
>helicopter. Then raise it and it will spin down. But, actually, nothing is
>perfect, and so woudn't be this, because the helicopter would turn, too,
>together with the rotors (according to this, do not fold any tail rotor,
>and so you can say "It's just like the real one!").
>
>Have a good flight!
>
>Peter Budai

So would you need some kind of mechanism that allows the blades to turn?
How would such a mechanism work?  When I think about it all I see is the
paper twisting itself into a knot, which would not be helpful.  Oh bye the
way, do you mean potential energy to be converted into rotational kinetic
energy?  Happy folding :)

David





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:49:47 -0700
Subject: Re: NO  Happy99 on Macintosh

>At 10:51 PM 6/4/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>No it doesn't, it was meant for the Windows Microsoft operating system.
>>Just like most of the bugs floating around.  Yeah for Macs and yeah for
>>Unix!  And all other non-microsoft operating systems!
>
>Not as if I would work for Microsoft, but let me say that as you mentioned,
>that specific hurts Windows because it was written for ("meant for")
>Windows, and that has to do more with the programmer than the type of the OS.
>
>Note that I'm not telling "Microsoft is the best", I just pointed out that
>it depends rather on the programmer (or here "virgrammer") what a virus can
>do.
>
>Peter Budai

Point conceded.  You could always even up the score by writing viruses for
all the other operating systems.  Just kidding!

David

"This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!"





From: Kimberly Shuck <atsina@HOOKED.NET>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:55:46 -0700
Subject: Re: Realistic flying origami helicopter?

Is anyone else visualizing one piece for the rotors and one for the body? So, ok
it's cheating. But if there was one piece for the body and one for the rotors,
the rotors could be attached to the body by threading one end of the paper
through a ring shaped structure on the body and opening the rotor paper end (I
can see this clearly but would have to think further to get the words properly..
as with others on the list serve, not a native english speaker) then if the
rotors were angled they would spin when wooshed through the air. Maybe.

Kim Shuck

david whitbeck wrote:
>
> >At 10:50 AM 6/4/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >
> >>Marc Kirschenbaum wrote about his realistic helicopter designs. Now I
> >>wonder whether there are any realistic helicopter designs that actually
> >>fly well, either with fixed rotor blades that produce enough lift to act
> >>like the wings on traditional paper airplanes, or with rotor blades that
> >>actually rotate freely.
> >
> >Huh! That IS a challenge, yes, no doubt.
> >
> >>The big problem is, I think, how to fix the rotor to the body of the
> >>helicopter so it can rotate freely,
> >
> >The key word is "fix". I have no idea how to make body-independent rotors
> >form the same sheet of paper. The one that comes to mind is rather awkward:
> >Fold the copter so that there's some -much? :-)- paper between the rotors
> >and the body, then twist the rotor up so that some flexible energy (no, not
> >an esoteric buzzword, I just don't know the right word in English for the
> >kind of energy that's stored in tongue-piece --this is the wrod that my
> >dictionary tells for that springy coil-- gee, now comes the closing
> >bracket). But well, I don't bet my life that it will fly...
> >
> >>(but yes, using a separate sheets of paper for the rotor blades is OK <g>).
> >
> >That's not so much help, becuse you still would have to fix them to the
> >body and then you arrived to the point where you started.
> >
> >The halfway solution would be to go about the problem in the opposite way
> >(what's this? :-) , that is, to create a glider that looks like a
> >helicopter. Then raise it and it will spin down. But, actually, nothing is
> >perfect, and so woudn't be this, because the helicopter would turn, too,
> >together with the rotors (according to this, do not fold any tail rotor,
> >and so you can say "It's just like the real one!").
> >
> >Have a good flight!
> >
> >Peter Budai
>
> So would you need some kind of mechanism that allows the blades to turn?
> How would such a mechanism work?  When I think about it all I see is the
> paper twisting itself into a knot, which would not be helpful.  Oh bye the
> way, do you mean potential energy to be converted into rotational kinetic
> energy?  Happy folding :)
>
> David





From: Mike Kanarek <kanarekorigami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 13:02:54 -0700 (
Subject: Origami of Kingston, NY meeting

The Origami Kingston Club meets on the second and fourth Saturday's of
the month at the Kingston Area Library.
The library is located at 55 Franklyn Street in Kingston NY.
Information may be gotten at 914-331-0988
Meeting start at 10:30 and last about a hour and a half and are in the
Childrens library.
See you there. Mike Kanarek

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From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 18:11:50 +0200
Subject: Re: Realistic flying origami helicopter?

Peter Budai schrieb:
> >(but yes, using a separate sheets of paper for the rotor blades is OK <g>).
>
> That's not so much help, becuse you still would have to fix them to the
> body and then you arrived to the point where you started.
Actually, I was thinking about a nut-and-bolt- solution: The body of the
helicopter has a hole in the top, where you can stick the rotor through.
Spread the rotor paper within the body of the helicopter to stop the
rotor from slipping back out. Generally, this should be relatively easy
to do, but I am sure there would be too much friction between rotor and
body, unless you use non-origami material.

> The halfway solution would be to go about the problem in the opposite way
> (what's this? :-) , that is, to create a glider that looks like a
> helicopter. Then raise it and it will spin down. But, actually, nothing is
> perfect, and so woudn't be this, because the helicopter would turn, too,
> together with the rotors (according to this, do not fold any tail rotor,
> and so you can say "It's just like the real one!").

Hey, that's a neat solution! Since the tail is missing you can name the
model "helicopter shot down by enemy fire". That would be a whole new
kind of origami. Let's call it war-o-gami or wreck-o-gami.

Matthias





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 18:53:58 +0100
Subject: Building with Butterflies

Dorothy Engleman writes:

<<However, if an author permits the free, public teaching of the author's
designs, couldn't permission be automatically granted for the
reproduction of the diagrams to distribute to the students?>>

Being brought up in the BOS tradition where only the group leader ever has
access to the diagrams during a teaching session I just simply hadn't
considered this point.

My personal view is I'm not averse to it - provided it's just one model from
a book.

It also seems a reasonable thing to do from a purely commercial standpoint,
especially if the photocopy includes information about the publication from
which the model comes.

I'll try to remember to bear this in mind when designing my page layout in
future!

Dave Mitchell - definitely still learning!





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 16:37:15 -0500
Subject: Fireworks

Hi All:

Last year at the SEOF, during the "After Hours" folding
sessions, I learned a model called the "Fireworks". It's a
modular from 12 pieces of paper, that when finished can be
rotated to show three different sides. Does anyone know the
author of this model?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Kathy  <*))))><





From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 17:47:42 -0400 (
Subject: Software for folding sequences for reference points

A not-infrequent question on this list takes the form of, "how do you find
such-and-such proportion by folding?" This type of problem is a particular
interest of mine, since in many of my designs the initial reference points
are defined mathematically as algebraic expressions (or even purely
numerically). If you have a mathematical expression for the coordinates of a
reference point, you can always measure and mark, but lots of people don't
want to have to keep a ruler and calculator handy for folding -- so it's
desirable to find pure folding sequences for such reference points.

I've written in several places about some of the techniques for finding
reference points by folding alone (including in the next few upcoming JOAS
newsletters). One of the techniques lends itself nicely to computer
programming, so I've written a small program that computes folding sequences
for reference points that can give you a simple sequence to find any point
anywhere in a unit square to an accuracy of about .005.

A complete description of the problem would make this posting too long, so I
will simply refer you to the archives, where I have uploaded four files:

ReferenceFinder.pdf - a 6-page Acrobat file describing the technique
ReferenceFinder.exe - a Windows executable
ReferenceFinder.hqx - a Macintosh executable (stuffed/binhexed)
ReferenceFinder.cp  - the source code

The program is simple enough that I have compiled it for both Mac and
Windows, and the source code is there if anyone wants to compile it for any
other platform.

I just posted the files to the ".incoming" directory; I expect Maarten will
shortly move them into the Programs directory.

Enjoy!

Robert J. Lang





From: DonnaJowal@AOL.COM
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 17:58:18 -0400 (
Subject: Fireworks

Yami Yamauchi is the creator of Fireworks.  He's from NJ and with his
enthusiasm, I'm sure he'll be there this year, too.

Donna





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 23:21:29 -0700
Subject: Re: Fireworks

If it is the model I think you are referring to, that model was taught at
the OUSA Convention '98 by Yami Yamauchi & I think he was also the creator.
It can be made with more than 12 pieces.

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
madawson@sprynet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine J. Meyer <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 2:37 PM
Subject: Fireworks

>Hi All:
>
>Last year at the SEOF, during the "After Hours" folding
>sessions, I learned a model called the "Fireworks". It's a
>modular from 12 pieces of paper, that when finished can be
>rotated to show three different sides. Does anyone know the
>author of this model?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>Kathy  <*))))><





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 00:21:01 -0700
Subject: Elephant fold

I've been folding Montroll's rhinocerus fold recently.  I'm referring to
the one from Origami Sculptures, not the one from African Animals.  When I
noticed that if instead of folding those petal and squash folds on the head
to make that frog-like base you just fold it like a stretched bird base,
fold same steps for a while, until you get to folding those hind legs: do a
valley and mountain fold to shrink up the tail then fold reverse folds to
make tail and legs, fold the model in half the opposite way the rhino is
folded and mess around with it a little and mold the body to becoming 3d
you'll end up with a 3d elephant with a tail, four legs, trunk and two
flappy ears.  The only thing I don't like about this elephant is that it
doesn't have tusks.  My two questions are:
1. Has someone already done this fold?  And if so, how was it folded to
have tusks.
2. If anyone actually wants to fold this elephant (which in my opinion is
better than the snail I recently created because now that I think of it,
I've never seen a snail living in a Kawasaki shell) should I make diagrams
and put them up on the web?
3. Which rhino do you (any reader on this list) like better: the one from
Origami Sculptures or from African Animals, one from David Brill's
Brilliant Origami, or other?

Happy folding :)

David





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 00:38:03 -0700
Subject: oops!  That's three questions not two!

Sorry, I apparantly can't add, that's three questions, not two, I'm a
disgrace as a Math major.  At least I can prove things.  As long as it's by
either contradiction, contrapositive, or transitivity.

David

"We will be wobbed and cwunched!"





From: Maarten van Gelder <VGELDER@KVI.nl>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:03:08 +0200
Subject: Re: New files in the archives

Robert,

> ReferenceFinder is a program that finds reference points by folding. It
> is very simple. The four files are, respectively:
>    pdf - a description (in Acrobat format)
>    exe - a Windows executable
>    hqx - a Binhexed Macintosh executable
>    cp  - the source code

I've put them in the archives: Programs, ReferenceFinder.

--
Maarten van Gelder    KVI - Groningen, Netherlands    vgelder@kvi.nl





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:03:37 +0200
Subject: Elephant fold

David "two questions" Whitbeck wrote:
>1. Has someone already done this fold? And if so, how was it folded to
>have tusks.
A wonderful story! Now I wonder, is your new elephant structurally
similar to elephants by John Montroll?
And don't worry about the tusks: Make the ears smaller, and call it a
"indian elephant lady". Female Indian elephants don't have tusks, and
indian elephants also have smaller ears than african elephants.

>2. should I make diagrams and put them up on the web?
Yes, please! What's the URL?

>3. Which rhino do you (any reader on this list) like better: the one from
Don't know why, but I haven't folded any rhinos yet.

All the best,
Matthias





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:15:31 -0700
Subject: Re: ATTENTION: Butterfly competition!

>Hello Fellow Folders!
>
>
>On behalf of Origami Sverige I would like to invite you to participate an
>exhibition and competition of origami butterflies.
>
>Yes, there will not only be an exhibition, but a competition between the
>exhibited models as well. The models will be judged by a comittee and the
>three best models will receive prizes. To thrill your interest, the 1st
>prize is a travel to Sweden to attend the 2nd Scandinavian Origami
>Convention (costs paid by our sponsor, Origami Paper OPP AB)! Lots of fun!
>
>More details about the convention are and the participation form is located
>at Origami Sverige's website:
>
>
>http://welcome.to/origami.sverige
>
>
>(But if you cannot access the Web and you would like me to post the entire
>text to you or the whole list, just write.)
>
>We are waiting for your models!
>
>
>Peter Budai

Is all techniques and paper types allowed?  I mean could we fold from
origami paper, foil, typewriter, or wetfold the model?  This sounds like a
lot of fun.  Has anybody ever answered Robert J. Lang's butterfly challenge
to fold it in fifths?  Somebody ought to fold a Monarch with the pattern on
the wings.  I'll have to go butterfly crazy after I diagram up my elephant.

Sincerely,
David





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 12:11:14 -0400
Subject: ATTENTION: Butterfly competition!

Hello Fellow Folders!

On behalf of Origami Sverige I would like to invite you to participate an
exhibition and competition of origami butterflies.

Yes, there will not only be an exhibition, but a competition between the
exhibited models as well. The models will be judged by a comittee and the
three best models will receive prizes. To thrill your interest, the 1st
prize is a travel to Sweden to attend the 2nd Scandinavian Origami
Convention (costs paid by our sponsor, Origami Paper OPP AB)! Lots of fun!

More details about the convention are and the participation form is located
at Origami Sverige's website:

http://welcome.to/origami.sverige

(But if you cannot access the Web and you would like me to post the entire
text to you or the whole list, just write.)

We are waiting for your models!

Peter Budai





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 16:33:23 +0200
Subject: Re: NO:Sinister Characters.

David,
At 05.58 6/6/1999 EDT, you wrote:

>I am appalled to find that by some lunatic quirk, my machine doesn't know how
>to transmit a simple apostrophe. Instead, it substitues three characters: a
>lower case "a" with a circumflex, a plain square and a small "TM"  or
>trademark sign. This occurs in several places, each one where an apostrophe
>was intended.

Not a fault of your machine: it depends on how e-mail messages are encoded,
transmitted and decoded. I'll try to explain it as simply as I can, but be
aware that things behind your screen are never so simple as they are
expected to be.......

Messages are made up of characters, which in turn are made up of binary
"bytes". Each character is univocally associated to a byte value (ASCII
value), and there are 256 possible values so that, in principle, up to 256
different characters can be used. You can easily see this by opening the
Char Map in Windows. For some reason, e-mail uses a 7-bit code instead of
8-bit, so the whole message is first encoded from 8 to 7-bit, then
transmitted, and the recipent's mail program decodes it back to 8-bit. In
such a process, ONLY the characters with ASCII values up to 127 (restricted
or standard ASCII) are assured to be correctly retrieved: all other
characters are likely to be modified in some way, and the received message
may either display them correctly, or may convert them to meaningless
arrays of odd characters, depending on the e-mail program and on the
"character set" used (which varies fromn country to country). Just for an
example: the accented vowels, in the Italian character set, are NOT
restricted ASCII so I usually replace them by "apostrophed vowels"

a' e' i' o' u'

If I send here the original accented vowels as single characters, my
Italian friends will in most cases be able to see them, but others may get
odd characters. Try:

>I composed my message in Microsoft Word and then transferred it to my mail
>program via the clipboard. On previous occasions this has always effectively
>converted the writing from Word format to Plain Text using standard ASCII
>characters.. But not this time!

WORD is the problem ! The clipboard method will NOT transfer special
formatting like bold, italic, etc. to your mail window, but the characters
will be copied as they are, with their actual ASCII values. Now, there is
an "automatic correction" feature in Word 6 (and following releases) which
has a stupid default setting named "convert apostrophe to English
apostrophe" or something like that (menu Tools-->Automatic correction).
This means that, every time you type an apostrophe (ASCII 33) it will
automatically be converted and printed as an "English open apostrophe"
looking like a raised inverted comma (ASCII 145), and every SECOND time you
will get an "English closed apostrophe" (ASCII 146) (incidentally, this
will also happen with the double inverted commas !). So your text will look
more "elegant" but, alas, it will lose its innocence required by e-mail
messages !

The solutions: 1) DISABLE that damn Word setting; 2) never use Word to
compose e-mail messages, just use the "new message" window in your mail
program ! It won't have all the facilities of a true WP, but not even its
drawbacks.....
>
>I have looked at the retained copy of my message in the archives of my mail
>program (which has not travelled to Origami-L and back) and the curious
>characters do not appear there.

Of course the problem arises in the encode/decode process, not before.
>
>ISPs are,
>perhaps commendably trying to add more and better facilites to their mail
>programs, but when will they get together and devise a universally accepted
>convention for a code to which everyone can subscribe with confidence?

As you see the code DOES exist, provided you use your e-mail programs in
the way they are intended to be used. Word processors, HTML encoding etc.,
were NOT devised for e-mail, and may occasionally give problems. Your
choice ! ;-)

Roberto





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 16:51:58 +0200
Subject: Re: NO:Sinister Characters.

Isa,
At 11.31 6/6/1999 PDT, you wrote:

>> I composed my message in Microsoft Word and then transferred it to my
>mail
>> program via the clipboard. On previous occasions this has always
>effectively
>> converted the writing from Word format to Plain Text using standard ASCII
>> characters.. But not this time!
>
>
>David, the problem is caused by an incompatible font. If you stick with the
>most common fonts, like Helvetica, or Times Roman, when you use Word, you
>shouldn't have a problem.

I'm afraid you are wrong. The copy & paste method (clipboard) is NOT
affected by the font type, it just transfers the characters (their ASCII
codes)! What is incompatible with e-mail is the ASCII code of some
characters, as I explain in another message.

Roberto





From: Steve Vinik <z007169b@BC.SEFLIN.ORG>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 16:27:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Victor Frenkil

I have a copy of Frenkil's book and years ago my brother, Tom, used the
dollar bill alphabet to create display titles when he put his origami
exhibits in libraries and office buildings. He didn't fold the letters
out of dollar bills, but of color paper of the same proportions. To see
the word ORIGAMI pop out of the wall in three-D pleats is pretty impressive.

Steve Vinik
z007169b@bc.seflin.org





From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:32:26 -0700 (
Subject: Re: Elephant fold

Yup.  I've always thought it was a great model, but then I saw a picture of
one (I can't remember if it was a white rhino or black) and all I could
think was "wow".  The model captures the "armor" and posture perfectly.

I've always wondered if John had thought of Dave's rhino himself.  It's
interesting that two of John's (In Sculpures and African Animals) rhinos are
very similar structurally to Dave's.  I thnk that the only major differences
are that in OS, the front legs are formed from edges, and Dave's has a
closed back.

> > 3. Which rhino do you (any reader on this list) like better: the one
>from
> > Origami Sculptures or from African Animals, one from David Brill's
> > Brilliant Origami, or other?
>
>John's rhino from Origami Sculptures. Just look at a picture of a white
>rhino, and you know why. John's rhino is simply perfect, from the
>overall posture and appearance to all the little details.
>
>Sorry, Dave, second rank for you. Even if John's rhino has an open back
>-- and besides, I think that turn-around move on your rhino's neck is
>really nasty. I'm eager to see what John has produced working on the
>closed back. (Perhaps he'll do the same trick with the rhino that he did
>with the lion?)
>
>--
>Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
>                         /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)

_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 20:03:17 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Victor Frenkil

Dear Steve,  I have folded your origami boat ( I think it was a sail boat and
was in the Origamian many long years ago.  No one seems to remember it as I
havent seen it in anyones collection of folds at the conventions....I usually
hang out with the money folders.   Maybe you should resusitate it in one of
"the Papers".  It was really a great model and very tricky as I recall.  What
are y ou doing with yourself now and do  you do much origami.  I guess you
are a lurker as this is the first time I have seen your name.   Dorigami.  I
am Dorothy Kaplan....remember me?  Have you designed any other money folds
over the years.





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 20:04:47 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Victor Frenkil

Sorry Steve, that email before this was written to you personally.  Hope you
opened it....It's subject is Re Victor Frenkil.  Dorigami





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 20:17:50 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Money Rose Tape

I sent you the money rose tape last week.....Did you recieve it yet?  I hope
it didnt get lost as I didnt insure it......





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:09:44 +0200
Subject: Re: Elephant fold

On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 12:21:01AM -0700, david whitbeck wrote:
> 3. Which rhino do you (any reader on this list) like better: the one from
> Origami Sculptures or from African Animals, one from David Brill's
> Brilliant Origami, or other?

John's rhino from Origami Sculptures. Just look at a picture of a white
rhino, and you know why. John's rhino is simply perfect, from the
overall posture and appearance to all the little details.

Sorry, Dave, second rank for you. Even if John's rhino has an open back
-- and besides, I think that turn-around move on your rhino's neck is
really nasty. I'm eager to see what John has produced working on the
closed back. (Perhaps he'll do the same trick with the rhino that he did
with the lion?)

--
Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: hecht <hecht@CWIX.COM>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 07:36:49 -0700
Subject: Re: list of butterfly models.....anyone having more entries ?

>... I would like to know if anyone on the list knows of a butterfly
>model not listed here, or if there are butterfly diagrams available on the
net

My $butterfly is at www.serve.com/hecht/origami/diags.htm   (which you
probably knew).

--steve





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 10:34:38 -0700
Subject: Re: ATTENTION: Butterfly competition!

Just a clarification please:

This is not a competition for creating an original butterfly model, correct?
We may fold anyone's model as long as we give credit?  Or are you looking
for new models?

Air-conditionally challenged, <sweat>

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
madawson@sprynet.com

"Fold something.  You'll feel better"

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 9:09 AM
Subject: ATTENTION: Butterfly competition!

>Hello Fellow Folders!
>
>
>On behalf of Origami Sverige I would like to invite you to participate an
>exhibition and competition of origami butterflies.
>
>Yes, there will not only be an exhibition, but a competition between the
>exhibited models as well. The models will be judged by a comittee and the
>three best models will receive prizes. To thrill your interest, the 1st
>prize is a travel to Sweden to attend the 2nd Scandinavian Origami
>Convention (costs paid by our sponsor, Origami Paper OPP AB)! Lots of fun!
>
>More details about the convention are and the participation form is located
>at Origami Sverige's website:
>
>
>http://welcome.to/origami.sverige
>
>
>(But if you cannot access the Web and you would like me to post the entire
>text to you or the whole list, just write.)
>
>We are waiting for your models!
>
>
>Peter Budai





From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:49:15 +0200
Subject: list of butterfly models.....anyone having more entries ?

Hi !!!

            This is the list of butterfly models I got from OUSA database .
I thought of including it here in the mail for two reasons:
the first one is that the butterfly issue will likely become very hot very
soon ( given the contest which gives a trip to Sweden as first prize), and
therefore might probably be now of general interest, and the second is
because I would like to know if anyone on the list knows of a butterfly
model not listed here, or if there are butterfly diagrams available on the
net

            Cheers,

                        Ariel/

PS: does anyone have a recommendation of  paper/material to be used for
folding butterflies?

**********************************

Butterfly by Mitsue Aoki (Intermediate, uses waterbomb base)
Origami for Displays/Ornaments by Toshie Takahama page 8
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by traditional (Simple, uses landmarking base)
Decorate With Origami by Irmgard Kneissler page 36
Paper used is sq napkin

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Butterfly by Samuel Randlett (Intermediate, uses bl/bird base)
Art of Origami (Randlett) by Samuel Randlett page 152
Paper used is sq duo

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Butterfly by Jack Skillman (Intermediate, uses frog base)
Best of Origami by Samuel Randlett, (ed) page 142
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by Akira Yoshizawa (Low Intermediate, uses waterbomb base)
Classic Origami by Paul Jackson page 34
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by Kunihiko Kasahara (Low Intermediate, uses pinwheel base)
Creative Origami by Kunihiko Kasahara page 115
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by traditional (Low Intermediate, uses pinwheel base)
Essential Origami by Steve Biddle page 45
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by Peter Engel (Complex, uses landmarking base)
Folding the Universe by Peter Engel page 292
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by Akira Yoshizawa (Intermediate, uses preliminary base)
Origami Museum I: Animals by Akira Yoshizawa page 9
Paper used is 3x4

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Butterfly by Isao Honda (Simple, uses landmarking base)
World Of Origami by Isao Honda page 23
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by Nakano Dokuohtei (Moderate, uses landmarking base)
Complete Origami by Eric Kenneway page 36
Paper used is 1x2

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Butterfly by Toshie Takahama (High Intermediate, uses waterbomb base)
Origami For Displays/Ornaments by Toshie Takahama page 8
Paper used is sq 7th's

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Butterfly by Robert Lang (Complex, uses thirds base)
Origami Zoo by Robert Lang page 143
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by Gay Merrill Gross (Simple, uses diagonal base)
Origami Animals by Robert Lang page 30
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by Makoto Yamaguchi (Low Intermediate, uses waterbomb base)
Kusadama Ball Origami by Makoto Yamaguchi page 70
Paper used is sq Modular

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Butterfly by Toyoaki Kawai (Moderate, uses diagonal base)
Colorful Origami by Toyoaki Kawai page 53
Paper used is 1x2

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Butterfly by John Montroll (Moderate, uses pinwheel base)
Easy Origami by John Montroll page 36
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by Unknown (Simple, uses thirds base)
Decorative Napkin Folding for Beginners by N. Epstein, L. Oppenheimer page
37
Paper used is sq napkin

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Butterfly by Akira Yoshizawa (Low Intermediate, uses waterbomb base)
Amazing Book of Origami by Jon Tremaine page 78
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by Paul Jackson (Moderate, uses book base)
Step-By-Step Origami by Paul Jackson page 18
Paper used is 1x2

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Butterfly by Robert Lang (Complex, uses landmarks base)
Origami Insects by Robert Lang page 40
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly A, B, C by Akira Yoshizawa (Simple, uses landmarking base)
Dokuhon II by Akira Yoshizawa page 24
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly Ball by Kenneth Kawamura (Low Intermediate, uses waterbomb base)
Art of Origami (Gross) by Gay Merrill Gross page 50
Paper used is sq Modular

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Butterfly Ring by Saburo Kase (Low Intermediate)
Complete Origami Course by Paul Jackson page 96
Paper used is strip

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Butterfly) by Kunihiko Kasahara (Moderate, uses pinwheel base)
El Mundo Nuevo by Kunihiko Kasahara page 83
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly) by Kunihiko Kasahara (Low Intermediate, uses book base)
Viva Origami by Kunihiko Kasahara page 26
Paper used is silver

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Flutter Butterfly by traditional (Simple, uses diagonal base)
Usborne Book of Origami by Kate Needham page 8
Paper used is sq

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Fluttering Butterfly by Eric Kenneway (Simple, uses diagonal base)
Complete Origami by Eric Kenneway page 35
Paper used is sq

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La FarFalla (butterfly) by Alfredo Giunta (Simple, uses book base)
Origami gli Insetti by Alfredo Giunta page 21
Paper used is sq

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La FarFalla 2 (butterfly) by Alfredo Giunta (Low Intermediate, uses
waterbomb base)
Origami gli Insetti by Alfredo Giunta page 22
Paper used is sq

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La FarFalla 3 (butterfly) by Alfredo Giunta (Low Intermediate, uses
waterbomb base)
Origami gli Insetti by Alfredo Giunta page 23
Paper used is 1x2

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La FarFalla 5 (butterfly) by Alfredo Giunta (Intermediate, uses waterbomb
base)
Origami gli Insetti by Alfredo Giunta page 25
Paper used is 1x2

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----
Mariposa (butterfly) by Adolfo Cerceda (Low Intermediate, uses catamaran
base)
Facinante Papiroflexia by Vicente Palacios page 33
Paper used is sq

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Schmetterling [butterfly] by Irmgard Kneibler (Simple, uses waterbomb base)
Origami - Papierfalten by I. Kneibler page 37
Paper used is sq

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Action Money Folds: Butterfly by Bob Neale (Intermediate, uses book base)
1993 by Kirschenbaum page 97
Paper used is 3x7

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Bill Butterfly by Craig MacDonald/Paul Krueger (Simple, uses book base)
1994 by page 3
Paper used is 3x7

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Butterfly by Tatiana Khliamova (Low Intermediate, uses windmill base)
1995 by Myer Gotz page 222
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by Nick Robinson (Intermediate, uses book base)
1989 by T. Cheng et al page 51
Paper used is A4

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Butterfly by Robert Lang (Complex, uses preliminary base)
1991 by T. Cheng et al page 121
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly Card by Craig Macdonald (Low Intermediate, uses waterbomb base)
1988 by C.A. WILK page 29
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly of Love by Edwin Young (Low Intermediate, uses bird base)
1995 by Myer Gotz page 223
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly: swallowtail by Y. Momotani (Low Intermediate, uses cupboard base)
1988 by C.A. WILK page 54
Paper used is sq

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Flapping Butterfly by E. D. Sullivan (Moderate, uses diagonal base)
1989 by T. Cheng et al page 27
Paper used is sq

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Flapping Butterfly by Unknown (Simple, uses cupboard base)
1991 by T. Cheng et al page 214
Paper used is sq

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Mariposa (Butterfly) by May Leo (Low Intermediate, uses book base)
1992 by T. Cheng et al page 5
Paper used is sq

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Spotted Butterfly by Alfredo Giunta (Intermediate, uses cupboard base)
1992 by T. Cheng et al page 15
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly Envelope by Jose Krooshoop (Low Intermediate, uses thirds base)
#43 by Kathleen O'Regan page 18
Paper used is 1:2

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Flapping Butterfly by Alain Georgeot (Moderate, uses book base)
#36 by Kathleen O'Regan page 17
Paper used is 1:2

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Gliding Butterfly by Didier Boursin (Low Intermediate, uses book base)
#36 by Kathleen O'Regan page 18
Paper used is 1:2

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Lillian's Butterfly by Michael LaFosse (Intermediate, uses book base)
#49 by Michael Dalton page 14
Paper used is sq

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Butterfly by J.C. Nolan (Intermediate, uses waterbomb base)
1996 by Myer Gotz (ed) page 119
Paper used is SQ

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Butterfly by Elea Kabachinskaua (Intermediate, uses cupboard base)
1996 by Myer Gotz (ed) page 121
Paper used is 1:2

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Butterfly by Stephen Ansons (High Intermediate, uses quarters base)
NY Annual Collection, 1997 by Myer Gotz page 1
Paper used is A4

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Dollar Bill Butterfly by Michael LaFosse (Intermediate, uses book base)
NY Annual Collection, 1997 by Myer Gotz page 141
Paper used is 3x7

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Flapping Butterfly by deg farelly (Low Intermediate, uses book base)
Origami in Action by Robert Lang page 22
Paper used is 1:2

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Flapping Butterfly by deg farelly (Low Intermediate, uses cupboard base)
Origami in Action by Robert Lang page 24
Paper used is SQ

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Gliding Butterfly by Makoto Yamaguchi (Simple, uses diagonal base)
Origami in Action by Robert Lang page 87
Paper used is Sq





From: Spider Barbour <spider@ULSTER.NET>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:50:52 -0500
Subject: Sci-fi model

-- [ From: Spider Barbour * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Dear fellow folders (no sexism intended) --
        There is a new model on my web page for sci-fi fans and face-folding
     fans.
It is a portrait of Mr. Spock, from the first Star Trek series.  I have been
warned that corporate heavies might object, so if you are interested in the
subject, please visit:

http://ulster.net/~spider/origami.htm

before attorneys descend and demand its removal or else!  My next letter to
the o-list may have to be sent from copyright-infringers' prison.

Anita Barbour





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:52:22 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Fireworks

Yami Yamouchi of N. J. is the originator of Fireworks.  It is absolutely a
sensational model and is easy to fold.  The only hard part is joining the
10th unit to the first.   It really makes an impression when you show it so
people.  He makes the same thing in all white and calls it a
snowflake.....Check the OUSA for his address. His new designs are all very
clever and exciting.... Maybe he has instructions by this time.......Dorigami





From: Orazio Puglisi <puglisi@SCIENCE.UNITN.IT>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:57:41 +0000
Subject: Re: list of butterfly models.....anyone having more entries ?

>Hi !!!
>
>            This is the list of butterfly models I got from OUSA database .
>I thought of including it here in the mail for two reasons:
>the first one is that the butterfly issue will likely become very hot very
>soon ( given the contest which gives a trip to Sweden as first prize), and
>therefore might probably be now of general interest, and the second is
>because I would like to know if anyone on the list knows of a butterfly
>model not listed here, or if there are butterfly diagrams available on the
>net
>
>            Cheers,
>
>                        Ariel/

David Derudas, a young italian paper folder, has created some very
beautiful batterflies.
You can see a picture of one of them at

http://www.essenet.it/cdo/gallery.htm

Cheers

Orazio

============================================================================
Orazio Puglisi
Department of Mathematics
University of  Trento
I-38050 Povo
ITALY

puglisi@science.unitn.it





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 12:19:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Realistic flying origami helicopter?

At 06:11 PM 6/6/99 +0200, Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:

>Peter Budai schrieb:
>> The halfway solution would be to go about the problem in the opposite way
>> (what's this? :-) , that is, to create a glider that looks like a
>> helicopter. Then raise it and it will spin down. But, actually, nothing is
>> perfect, and so woudn't be this, because the helicopter would turn, too,
>> together with the rotors (according to this, do not fold any tail rotor,
>> and so you can say "It's just like the real one!").
>
>Hey, that's a neat solution! Since the tail is missing you can name the
>model "helicopter shot down by enemy fire". That would be a whole new
>kind of origami. Let's call it war-o-gami or wreck-o-gami.

Actually I have made at least one wreck-o-gami model: an airplane which
flies, though backwards...  Not a successful model, eh?  ;-)

Peter Budai





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 12:19:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Realistic flying origami helicopter?

At 12:45 PM 6/6/99 -0700, I wrote:
>>
>>The halfway solution would be to go about the problem in the opposite way
>>(what's this? :-) , that is, to create a glider that looks like a
>>helicopter. Then raise it and it will spin down. But, actually, nothing is
>>perfect, and so woudn't be this, because the helicopter would turn, too,
>>together with the rotors (according to this, do not fold any tail rotor,
>>and so you can say "It's just like the real one!").

Then at 10:50 AM 6/4/99 +0200, David Whitbeck wrote:

>So would you need some kind of mechanism that allows the blades to turn?

For the above cited "halfway solution", no. That's why it's "halfway
solution".

>How would such a mechanism work?  When I think about it all I see is the
>paper twisting itself into a knot, ...

Not a knot, "just" a coil.

>Oh bye the way, do you mean potential energy to be converted into
rotational >kinetic energy?

Yes, that's it!

Happy folding, Peter Budai

P.S. Hmmm, I became interested in this flying helicopter. I guess I'll give
it a try! (But don't take good result for granted...)





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 12:21:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Software for folding sequences for reference points

At 05:47 PM 6/6/99 EDT, Robert J. Lang wrote:

>...
>so I've written a small program that computes folding sequences
>for reference points that can give you a simple sequence to find any point
>anywhere in a unit square to an accuracy of about .005.
>...

That will be a big help for a lot of us, I'm sure. However satisfying is
when you finally find the folding sentence after a two-week struggle (not
speaking of the other case when you do _not_ find it!), I guess many people
would skip that phase.

Thanks, Robert!

Peter Budai

P.S. Now I won't say anything about TreeMaker not available for Windows ;-)
(P.P.S. Yes, I've read why it isn't quite possible at the moment.)





From: Maarten van Gelder <VGELDER@KVI.nl>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:03:41 +0200
Subject: Re: New files in the archives

Mike and/or Janet Hamilton wrote:

> I can't seem to access the ReferenceFinder.exe program.  I was able to get
> to all the other items.  Maybe the file name is not spelled correctly or the
> permissions are not set properly?  This is the link I tried:
>
> http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/programs/reffind/ReferenceFinder.exe

The problem is in the WWW server. That doesn't permit to download EXE
files.

I added a link in the Programs menu to switch over to the FTP server
(ftp://.....).
There you may download all files.

--
Maarten van Gelder    KVI - Groningen, Netherlands    vgelder@kvi.nl





From: John Marcolina <jmarcoli@CISCO.COM>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 10:46:20 -0700
Subject: Question on Magic Rose Cube

Hi!

I have a question for all of you who have learned the magic rose cube, and
     still remember how to fold it. It's not actually as bad as it sounds - I
     know how to fold the modules, but I have a couple of questions on the
     assembly.

First question - Think of the assembly in three steps: The joining of the three
     "calyx" pieces to each other, the joining of the three "flower" pieces to
     each other, and the joining of the "flower" pieces to the "calyx" pieces.
     What order are these three
 teps done in? I can't remember, and I've been doing it basically "bottom to
     top", but I'm not sure if this is the easiest way.

Second - The flower piece has two raw corners at each end. Where the flower
     pieces fit into each other, this corner is in the "unfolded" state. The
     other end of this flower piece is connected to the calyx piece. When the
     flower piece is connected to the c
 lyx piece, is the raw corner of the flower piece unfolded, or is the corner
     folded in to make a triangular flap? Both ways are possible, but leaving
     the raw corner unfolded gives a little more holding power. It's more
     difficult as well.

I hope this makes sense. Which way were you all taught?

Thanks,

John Marcolina
San Jose, CA.
jmarcoli@cisco.com





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:05:08 -0700
Subject: Re: Question on Magic Rose Cube

Whatever happened to Valerie Vann and her plans to diagram the Magic
Rose Cube?

Enquiring Cubehead





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:15:51 -0700
Subject: Re: Sci-fi model

Hi Anita!

Thanks for your trs cool model. Is the image of Spock under license?

Dorothy
