




From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:23:35 -0500
Subject: Re: OrigamiUSA Newsletter

> I got mine a few days ago.

As did I
it has Joseph Wu's Eastern dragon diagram in it.
got to try that one of these days.
The hardest part will be cutting down the paper to the right props i'm
sure.

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From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:37:34 +0100
Subject: Space for trekfolds wanted.. (forward)

Hi  -can anyone help this man out?

  ------- Forwarded message follows -------
Hello

A really good site!

I don't want to publish a book but I have been kicking around a few folds and
have come up with a USS Enterprise from Star Trek and a Millenium falcon from
Star Wars. I am interested to know if there is any way to get these on the
net for others to have a look and to see what they think. I would be most
grateful if you have any sites that would like to recieve drawings and
digital photos.

If you have any ideas I would be grateful if you could email me at
Leigh451@aol.com

Thanks

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos





From: Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:57:41 +0100
Subject: Re: Cats

If anyone is interested I have designed a cat based on a character from a
Japanese animated film called Kiki's Delivery Service' if anyone would like
the diagrams let me know (including the preferred file format). The cat is
fairly realistic but the aim was to make it as cute as the character in the
fim.





From: Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 14:51:48 -0700
Subject: Re: book reviews (was a must)

> At one time, there was a web accessible summary of books recommended on
> this list.  Last I checked, it was only on FTP, and had not been
> updated in
> some time.  Anyone know the location and status of that project?

Well, that dinosaur was a project I did. But it seems that everytime I
commit to getting it finished I have some BIG personal problem so forgive me
the delay AND if I don't make more promises :->.

I currently have a large folder of .html files that I was editing to remove
cover scans (given the number of books the graphics made these files too
huge) and to add content from the last year or two. The plan was to put them
in the archives as given that most of the material was drawn from the
mailing list it didn't seem appropriate to have them on a personal site.

Somewhat embarassed by the time it has taken but still intending to finish
the project...

pat slider.
slider@stonecutter.com





From: OrigamiNW <orca@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:40:17 -0700
Subject: ORCA Registration Forms

The ORCA Registration forms are now available on our web page:

http://www.eskimo.com/~orca





From: "Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)" <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:28:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Teapot & new site

As being able to read Chinese I would translate it from what I read.
The teapot diagram would appear in the new issue of newsletter or journal.
But I don't know which one. That works wins an award in the 9th world
origami exhibition(?).
You may contact Wilson Chan to know more details: mailto:chchan@ap.net.hk.
Don't ask me about them. I don't know any of their members. Perhaps Joseph
Wu knows more.

Good luck.

Sy Chen, sychen@erols.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Friday, May 21, 1999 4:21 AM
Subject: Teapot & new site

>In the LINKS on Joseph Wu's wonderful site there is a new web site from
Hong
>Kong/China. It features instructions for many models includinG a
wonderfully
>cute puppy which I am sure many of you will love. The sight which also
>features a variety of chinese lanterns is well worth a visit.
>
>However one that caught my eye was a teapot by Janson Chow. Unfortunately
>there are no diagrams for this one. Has anyone got these diagrams that they
>could send me or at least give me an address for Janson Chow ?
>
>Regards
>
>Imtiaz Razvi
>
>
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From: Maarten van Gelder <VGelder@KVI.nl>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:06:11 +0200
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Space for trekfolds wanted.. (forward)]

... From: Maarten van Gelder <VGelder@kvi.nl>
... To: Leigh451@aol.com

The archives of the Origami Interest Group has a models directory.

You may upload files with FTP to:

   ftp://www.rug.nl/origami/.incoming

When you put files there you should send me a message saying what you've
put there.
If I find files there without a accompanying message I delete them.
I don't like hackers.

If the files are not too bad I'll put them in the right models
subdirectory.

> I don't want to publish a book but I have been kicking around a few folds and
> have come up with a USS Enterprise from Star Trek and a Millenium falcon from
> Star Wars. I am interested to know if there is any way to get these on the
> net for others to have a look and to see what they think. I would be most
> grateful if you have any sites that would like to recieve drawings and
> digital photos.

--
Maarten van Gelder    KVI - Groningen, Netherlands    vgelder@kvi.nl





From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:54:04 +0200
Subject: Program "Ori" by Meguro ?

>He made a PC program called Orio, which resembled to Lang san's
>TreeMaker, in 1993. The horse, diagramed in ORU no.11 p.119,
>was designed using it.

Is that program available on the net ?





From: Krystyna i Wojciech Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 23:31:43 +0200
Subject: Re: Menger's sponge, depth 2

We have also been inspired by Jeanine Mosely Menger sponge project.
As mathemiticians we cannot resist to this challenge.
We built Menger sponge dept 0 (a cube), level 1 (a cube with one hole
on each face) an depth 2. The sponge dept 3 is under construction.
All models are built rom Sonobe modules.

You can see results at:
http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/origami/g2-03-en.htm

Wojtek





From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 04:49:44 +0900
Subject: Re: Meguro

Besides the sea urchin, his scissors is diagramed in OT website.
See  http://www.origami.gr.jp/People/MEGR_/hasami01.gif
and  http://www.origami.gr.jp/People/MEGR_/hasami02.gif
This model is relative simple but does work!

You can also see the fruit of his bunshi theory at
     http://www.origami.gr.jp//Model/Insect/index-e.html

He made a PC program called Orio, which resembled to Lang san's
TreeMaker, in 1993. The horse, diagramed in ORU no.11 p.119,
was designed using it.

Some of his models as well as the designing theory will be
published in the book which Gallery Origami House is now preparing.
I saw his manuscript there, and found it interesting.
(It will be published in Japanese, I think :-P)

The book will be filled with origami insects designed by JOAS
(former Tanteidan) members.
They say they will (want to?) publish it this autumn.

 _ _ _ _ _
|         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
|_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
|         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
|_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
 If they keep on risking failure, they're still artists. (S.Jobs)





From: Doug and Anna Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 06:51:53 -0700
Subject: Re: book reviews (was a must)

>> At one time, there was a web accessible summary of books recommended on
>> this list.  Last I checked, it was only on FTP, and had not been
>> updated in
>> some time.  Anyone know the location and status of that project?
>
>Well, that dinosaur was a project I did. But it seems that everytime I
>commit to getting it finished I have some BIG personal problem so forgive me
>the delay AND if I don't make more promises :->.
>

>pat slider.
>slider@stonecutter.com

Thanks for the update.  I definitely know about the intervention of life
thing.  Good enough for me, that you still have intentions for it.

Interesting, how sometimes net speed and human speed bash into each other.

I would like to see this on a web site somewhere when it's done.  I find
even a private page more accessible than ftp.  If it has links on some of
the more popular sites (or even one -- Joseph Wu's), it should be as public
as anywhere.

Thanks for your efforts.  May your life contain only pleasant surprises
from now on!
Anna

Anna Weathers, Portland, Oregon, USA
"In paradox truth."





From: Rona Gurkewitz <GURKEWITZ@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 11:17:58 -0400
Subject: new modular book

     I thought you'd like to know that "Modular Origami Polyhedra:
Revised and Enlarged edition" by Lewis Simon, Bennett Arnstein and
me, Rona Gurkewitz has been published by Dover Publications.

     The new edition is 64 pages long and includes some new models
where the original edition was 32 pages long. The list price is
$5.95.

     The models covered are three modular 'systems' and some other
folds. The systems are the Sonobe system with 8 variations, the
Decoration Box system, with some variations that produce the
same shapes as the Sonobe, and the Gyroscope system. The book
also shows how to adapt dollar bills to fold many of the polyhedra
in the book.

    The Decoration Box system has been developed through the work
of several people including Lewis Simon, Bennett Arnstein, Bob Neale
Jim Plank and me.

   If anyone wants an autographed copy, send me a check for $7
which includes book rate postage at 47 Mountainview Drive,
Brookfield,  Ct 06804 USA. I have some copies on hand and will
order some more if there is an interest.

Rona Gurkewitz





From: Terry Hall <terryh@LAMG.COM>
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 15:20:35 -0700
Subject: Re: Cats

Hi,

I would be very happy to receive your diagrams, as I like cats a lot and have
two of them. As the publisher of the West Coast Origami Guild (WCOG)
newsletter, which goes to 5 foreign countries in addition to all over the USA,
I would be interested in publishing it in the newsletter with your permission.
My computer is a Macintosh, so whatever format is compatible with that is fine
with me. Hope to see the diagrams soon.

Terry Hall

terryh@lamg.com





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:54:39 -0700
Subject: Re: Cats

Hi Terry,

Here are two items for the June Newsletter:

Folding California was selected to receive a Judge's Choice award in the
1999 Hometown Video Festival, which is local cable programming's largest
video festival and includes entrants from the United States and Canada.

Folding California was also awarded a Bronze Apple from the National
Educational Media Network's 1999 Apple Awards Film and Video
Competition, which is the nation's largest educational media festival.

THOUSAND CRANES PROJECT FOR COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS

For those who wishe to fold cranes for the Columbine High School
students, 6 inch paper in blue (prints or solids) or silver would be
appreciated. Please identify from where you're sending the cranes. (Why
not write your name on the wing of the bird).

Please send your cranes to:

Dee Lynch
1350 East Easter Avenue
Littleton, Colorado 80122

Dee, who is the Affiliate News Editor for the OrigamiUSA newsletter,
lives in Littleton and will be coordinating this effort. The cranes will
be presented to the students when they return to school in the fall.

Thanks, Terry!
Dorothy





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:17:47 -0700
Subject: Re: Cats

I'm sorry that I mistakenly hit reply and sent you all a private email
intended for Terry Hall of the West Coast Origami Guild.  I've already
posted to the list about Folding California's awards and I apologize for
this unintended tooting.

Dorothy





From: Rona Gurkewitz <GURKEWITZ@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 23:54:59 -0400
Subject: Re: new modular book

Bennett and I were talking and if anyone wants both of our autographs,
the extra postage is only an additional $1.13, bringing the cost
of "Modular Origami Polyhedra: Revised and Enlarged edition" to
$8.13.

Rona





From: Doug and Anna Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:50:11 -0700
Subject: Origami dictionary?

I've begun to recognize a few characters -- like the two that follow a
number on the outside of origami packages and tell how many sheets there
are, and the fairly simple F-like one at the end of Tomoko Fus's name --
but of course I am reinventing the wheel there.  Has anyone done a short
origami character dictionary?

It seems that there may be characters for such things as squash folds, too.

I would pay for a list of things like numbers, repeat instructions, pull
out, etc -- plus a listing of the characters for the names of the commonly
found origami authors.  If it was short, it would be easily skimmed to find
the ones I was looking at.  Probably best to separate out names from
instructions.  Are there technical difficulties that would make one hard to
do?  Anyone else interested in having or making one?

Anna

Anna Weathers, Portland, Oregon, USA
"In paradox truth."





From: Joy Rebilas <rebilas@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:54:49 -0700
Subject: help: dollar bill rose?

I've seen it done, but I've searched for years for the plans! If anyone
out there knows how to do it (or any other floral thing with the dollar
bill) I'd surely appreciate the tip!  Thanks!

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From: Russell Sutherland <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:36:05 -0400 (
Subject: Paris Convention

Hey Fellow Folders,

I have just returned from the MFPP Origami Convention in PARIS.  I must say,
MFPP did an outstanding job. Many thanks to Veronique, Gillium, and Michel
for a job well done.  I am already making plans to return next year!

The convention was an informal and intimate affair... about 100 people
attended.  All the exhibits, supplies for sale, folding, and festivities took
place in one big  room.  Sometimes, 3 people would be teaching at once...
sounds a bit confusing, but it wasn't.

Jeremy Shafer was the featured guest at the convention.  If you have never
this guy, you have missed out.  Jeremy folded, juggled, fire-ate, unicycled,
and hand-whistled his way into the hearts of all who attended.  His origami
models are best appreciated when Shafer is demonstrating them.  He is a true
showman.... (And a bit of a ham:).  He taught several models. I was pleased
to discover that St. Martin's Press is publishing Jeremy's book.  It will be
available for sale in January.  I joined his BARF club while in PARIS. He
puts out 6 newsletters a year for $15 annual membership fee... well worth
it...IMHO.

Eric Joisel exhibited his work... including a new, breathtaking seahorse.  He
had some new faces, which were also very interesting.  He taught me his new
simple face (made from a waterbomb base). It has great potential for making
lots of different faces from the same face base.  Eric is my favorite origami
artist, and I was honored that he spent time discussing my work and teaching
his origami to me.

Vincent Floderer was also featured at the convention.  Along with his
mushrooms, Vincent exhibited and taught his awesome new tree form.  It
resembles a deciduous tree complete with roots... the technique for his trees
is similar to that of his crumple mushrooms.  He discussed the theory of
creating multiple groupings of his "shrooms" using one sheet of paper by
incorporating traditional folds when preparing the base forms.

David Derudas exhibited some great work including seashells, cobra, two
swans, and butterfly.  Diagrams were supplied in the convention collection.
The cobra is one of my favorites from the exhibit... though it looks like it
would take me a month to do it : \ .  The TWO SWANS appear to be an elegant
fold.... I am anxious to try it.

Michael Grand introduced some new models including his "A x 2 = 1cube." This
cool little model can be folded with letter or legal size paper just as
easily.... It has a neat locking mechanism. I predict this to be a hit at the
upcoming NY convention next month.  I just finished folding 15 of them each
nests inside one another to form one single cube. NICE MODEL!

Some nice modular work was exhibited by a gentleman whose name escapes me....
Petre???.  These models were quite interesting... and different from anything
I have seen.

Lionel Albertino exhibited outstanding work including his insect collection
as well as models from his new book: "Safari Origami."  These models were
well designed...  All had closed backs and were 3D.  The hippo was
unbelievably lifelike... as were the other critters.

Fernando Guajardo Gomez exhibited his collection of monsters from his new
book "Origami Monsters."  Fernando uses interesting papers to fold his
intricate creatures.
This book is a must for those who have an interest in SCI-FI... if not for
the ALIEN alone.

Naomiki Sato displayed some of his ingenious origamic architecture.  Instead
of traditional buildings, Naomiki creates complete scenes by making a few
cuts on a sheet of paper without removing any of the paper.... REMARKABLE!

Asghar Malik exhibited his work including his USS Enterprise (co-creator:
Larry Hart), Romulan Warbird, and new Communicator Badge.  Tunken Lam and
Denver Lawson (GB) introduced some neat modular designs as well.

I exhibited some of my new models. It was my first time to display work for
the origami community. I was a bit apprehensive about setting up my display
with the other work... There was some GREAT work there.  As I was dragging
stuff out to display, a small crowd gathered behind me... they were
interested in my stuff.  I was asked to teach my FACE on Sunday  I think it
went well.... (Thanks, Jeremy, for your help).  I made some mistakes, but it
was a great learning experience. About 50 people took my class. It was
exciting to see 100 "FACES" staring back at me within the hour.   I am
working on diagrams for it now.

Many other great folders attended the convention, and a great time was had by
all.  Thanks AGAIN, MFPP!

Sincerely,

Russell Sutherland
AKA: LoneFolder

DARE TO FOLD!!!!!!!!!!





From: MORGANA <la.llibreria@BCN.SERVICOM.ES>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:25:36 +0200
Subject: Paper in Barcelona, the mystery solved.

Dear List.

In the last weeks some people has said that is imposible to found paper
in Barcelona.

Well, I'll try to help them.

Visit this shop:

PEPART
C/ SEPULVEDA 81
BARCELONA
SPAIN
TELF 93 424 54 01

But, I think that the  most important  that the kind of paper is the
imagination and the research to achieve the results over altentative
surfaces.

Atentamente
Nicolas Jenson





From: Wendi Curtis <rebelgami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:28:08 -0700 (
Subject: Re: help: dollar bill rose?

I think Dorothy Kaplan has a tape and book on how to do the Money Rose.
I've seen it advertised on http://kimscrane.com

wendi curtis

From: Joy Rebilas <rebilas@YAHOO.COM>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: help: dollar bill rose?
>Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:54:49 -0700
>
>I've seen it done, but I've searched for years for the plans! If anyone
>out there knows how to do it (or any other floral thing with the dollar
>bill) I'd surely appreciate the tip!  Thanks!
>
>_____________________________________________________________
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From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:22:55 -0700 (
Subject: question about the cranes

Hello, I have a question concerning about the cranes.  If they are due in
the fall, is it okay if I send them in August if I have the time to takepart
on it during the summer?  I hope that I can do something.  Please reply if
you have the answer.  Thank you.

Wing
>From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Cats
>Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:54:39 -0700
>
>Hi Terry,
>
>Here are two items for the June Newsletter:
>
>Folding California was selected to receive a Judge's Choice award in the
>1999 Hometown Video Festival, which is local cable programming's largest
>video festival and includes entrants from the United States and Canada.
>
>Folding California was also awarded a Bronze Apple from the National
>Educational Media Network's 1999 Apple Awards Film and Video
>Competition, which is the nation's largest educational media festival.
>
>THOUSAND CRANES PROJECT FOR COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS
>
>For those who wishe to fold cranes for the Columbine High School
>students, 6 inch paper in blue (prints or solids) or silver would be
>appreciated. Please identify from where you're sending the cranes. (Why
>not write your name on the wing of the bird).
>
>Please send your cranes to:
>
>Dee Lynch
>1350 East Easter Avenue
>Littleton, Colorado 80122
>
>Dee, who is the Affiliate News Editor for the OrigamiUSA newsletter,
>lives in Littleton and will be coordinating this effort. The cranes will
>be presented to the students when they return to school in the fall.
>
>Thanks, Terry!
>Dorothy

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From: Edith Kort <ekort@MCLS.ROCHESTER.LIB.NY.US>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:55:21 -0400
Subject: Folding Videos

I just visited Kim's Crane site and noticed there are two videos for
sale from Dorothy Kaplan based on her show.  I don't recall them being
mentioned on this list.  Dorothy/Kim please tell us more about them.
There have been some inquiries about similar things from the list
members.

--
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Edith M. Kort
    Rochester Origami Club

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
               Before you can be eccentric
          You must know where the circle is





From: Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@EIEE.UNIVALLE.EDU.CO>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 08:54:37 -0500
Subject: New Web Page in Colombia

Hello.
Our origami work in Colombia has been success, We have now some small
groups in some Colombian cities, like Manizales, Armenia, Bogota and Cali.
Medellin and Bucaramanga are in the way. And now we can do a real
Colombian Origami Association. BTW we are in the organization of out third
convention in november, in Cali.

 The Bogota's group constructed a new Web Page, "Origami Virtual".
Its owner is Leandro Silva (leandro@bogotavirtual.com). The URL is:

http://www.bogotavirtual.com/origami

It has some animated models and more interesting things.

Good luck,

Jose Tomas

     Jos Tomas Buitrago Molina M.Sc.
     buitrago@eiee.univalle.edu.co
     http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago

     "Origami y Robtica"





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:10:16 -0400 (
Subject: We Need Volunteers!

To All Interested Parties:

The annual Origami USA Convention is just around the corner and much needs to
be done.  Typically we rely on visiting origami volunteers to do whatever can
be done whenever they are available.  However, it has been decided that the
huge task of collating tens of thousands of papers for the 900 packets for
the convention will be done in TWO days at the American Museum of Natural
History in NYC.

We are looking for people to help collate the papers on June 5th and June 6th
from 11:00 a.m. to 4 p.m. on both days -- or until done!  We will be meeting
in the lunchrooms in the basement of the museum.  If enough volunteers come
out the job will be done in short time and will be fun!

Please contact me privately to let me know if you can attend:  I need to know
what day(s) and what time you will be available to help so that I can
coordinate the event.

Thank you in advance for your help!

June Sakamoto
Tel:  (201) 891-4852
fax:  (201) 891-8948
e-mail:  foldmaster@aol.com





From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:24:34 -0700
Subject: Engel's octupus

Hi everybody!  Thanks to all of you that replied to my email concerning
Meguro, especially Mr. Lang who told me about the Treemaker (that will take
me awhile to go through) now I can tell people that a celebrity replied to
my email!  Anyhow, I was folding Engel's Octupus when I got a result that
was not pleasing due to the model's thickness, I admit I was folding from
typewriter paper which I thought should have been thin enough, but wasn't.
Does anyone have any advice on folding Engel's octupus?  I'm not having
trouble with the folds, just the thickness.  Thanks for your time, happy
folding.

David
"Well master you were right about one thing, the negotiations were short."





From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:42:30 +0200
Subject: Monstruous de Papel (WAS: Re: Paris Convention)

On 23-May-99, Russell Sutherland (RGS467@AOL.COM) wrote:

>Fernando Guajardo Gomez exhibited his collection of monsters from his
>new book "Origami Monsters." Fernando uses interesting papers to fold
>his intricate creatures.  This book is a must for those who have an
>interest in SCI-FI...  if not for the ALIEN alone.

Not just one alien, three aliens!  Facehugger, baby alien and an adult
one.  Well, I might just type in the contents:

Luna                    Moon
Sol                     Sun
Alien 1                 Facehugger
Alien 2                 Baby alien
Alien 3                 Adult alien
Stiro                  Satyre
Minotauro               Minotaur
Demonio                 Demon
Dragn                  Dragon
Dragn Chino            Chinese dragon
Dragn de 3 Cabezas     Three-headed dragon (with three different heads)

All text in Spanish but diagrams are very clear (and there's very
little text in diagrams anyway).  The book doesn't have an ISBN, so
you alien-freaks should probably write to

Fernando Gilgado Gomez
C/ Valdecanillas 65, 2-C
28037 Madrid
ESPANA

Phone: 917541646 (+whaterver it takes to call Spain from your country!)

I have his email address somewhere so I can forward your mail to him
or simply tell it to ones asking for it in private mail (if I get his
permission to do that, that is).

For masochist alien freaks:  use 70cm (~27") leatherette sheet for the
facehugger and you have an instant sci-fi -convention mask...

--
Jorma "hug me anytime" Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

Weyland-Yutani - Building Better Worlds





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:11:58 -0400
Subject: Re: new modular book

>     I thought you'd like to know that "Modular Origami Polyhedra:
>Revised and Enlarged edition" by Lewis Simon, Bennett Arnstein and
>me, Rona Gurkewitz has been published by Dover Publications.
>
>     The new edition is 64 pages long and includes some new models
>where the original edition was 32 pages long. The list price is
>$5.95.
>
>     The models covered are three modular 'systems' and some other
>folds. The systems are the Sonobe system with 8 variations, the
>Decoration Box system, with some variations that produce the
>same shapes as the Sonobe, and the Gyroscope system. The book
>also shows how to adapt dollar bills to fold many of the polyhedra
>in the book.
>
>    The Decoration Box system has been developed through the work
>of several people including Lewis Simon, Bennett Arnstein, Bob Neale
>Jim Plank and me.
>
>   If anyone wants an autographed copy, send me a check for $7
>which includes book rate postage at 47 Mountainview Drive,
>Brookfield,  Ct 06804 USA. I have some copies on hand and will
>order some more if there is an interest.
>
>Rona Gurkewitz

Dear Rona, I am sending a check for $7 for an autographed copy of the book.
Jim Sakoda,
411 County Road, Barrington, RI 02806-2423





From: Ken Lehner <klehner@LUCENT.COM>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:33:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Engel's octupus

david whitbeck wrote:

> Hi everybody!  Thanks to all of you that replied to my email concerning
> Meguro, especially Mr. Lang who told me about the Treemaker (that will take
> me awhile to go through) now I can tell people that a celebrity replied to
> my email!  Anyhow, I was folding Engel's Octupus when I got a result that
> was not pleasing due to the model's thickness, I admit I was folding from
> typewriter paper which I thought should have been thin enough, but wasn't.
> Does anyone have any advice on folding Engel's octupus?  I'm not having
> trouble with the folds, just the thickness.  Thanks for your time, happy
> folding.

I managed to fold this model using tissue paper (spray-)glued to both sides
of household aluminum foil.  I believe I used either a 10" or 12" square.  If
you want to see the resulting model, get Dorothy Engleman's
"Folding California" :-) :-) :-)

Ken Lehner





From: "Brannon, Dennis" <Dennis.Brannon@COMPAQ.COM>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:32:32 -0400
Subject: Reminder: Littleton Origami Group (LOG) meeting Tuesday night May 25,

Just a reminder.

The Littleton Origami Group (LOG) [Littleton, MA USA]
will be meeting the last Tuesday of the month at the Littleton
library in the "Small Meeting" room downstairs next to the elevator.

Dennis Brannon

When: Tuesday,  May 25, 1999, 7:00 - 9:00pm.
Where: Reuben Hoar Public Library, Shattuck Street, Littleton, MA
Telephone: (978) 486-4046.

Directions:  Get to the junction of routes 2A/110, 119 and 495.
This intersection is in the center of town at the only traffic light.
There's a Mobile station and Bob's Solid Oak nearby.

1. Coming from 2A East take a left at the lights onto King Street (110/2A
West) toward Ayer, MA.
Coming from 119 West take a right at the lights onto King Street toward
Ayer, MA.

2. You'll pass Bob's Solid Oak and a Shell station on the right, then a
cemetery.  At 2 tenths of a mile from the light is a right hand fork -- this
is one entrance to Shattuck Street.

If you miss it, continue on 110/2A for 5 tenths of a mile.  The other
entrance to Shattuck Street is on the right opposite Badger Funeral home.
The sign says Town Offices.

There is free parking to the left and rear of the building.





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:03:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Engel's octupus

david whitbeck wrote:

Snip

> I got a result that
> was not pleasing due to the model's thickness, I admit I was folding from
> typewriter paper which I thought should have been thin enough, but wasn't.

snip

> I'm not having
> trouble with the folds, just the thickness.

If I want to run through a complex model with out using more
expensive paper, I usually fold it with onion skin or tracing
paper, both are signifigantly thinner than typing paper.

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: Toad <toad@AWEB.ADMU.EDU.PH>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 01:40:02 +0800
Subject: Re: Engel's octupus

Hi! I've been lurking for awhile in this list but I think it's time that I
better surface, I have been into origami for quite some time (tried
experimenting on some of my own folds though those did not account to much
:)).

I too have tried folding Engel's octopus (as well as his other works) with
ordinary paper to no avail.  I did suceed somewhat with foiled paper (the
suggested medium to use) so maybe you could try that. (what I used was onion
skin paper backed with ordinary kitchen foil)

----- Original Message -----
From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 1:24 AM
Subject: Engel's octupus

> Hi everybody!  Thanks to all of you that replied to my email concerning
> Meguro, especially Mr. Lang who told me about the Treemaker (that will
take
> me awhile to go through) now I can tell people that a celebrity replied to
> my email!  Anyhow, I was folding Engel's Octupus when I got a result that
> was not pleasing due to the model's thickness, I admit I was folding from
> typewriter paper which I thought should have been thin enough, but wasn't.
> Does anyone have any advice on folding Engel's octupus?  I'm not having
> trouble with the folds, just the thickness.  Thanks for your time, happy
> folding.
>
> David
> "Well master you were right about one thing, the negotiations were short."





From: "David Walker (MSFDC-JV)" <v-davwa@MICROSOFT.COM>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:57:35 -0700
Subject: origami capitalism (long)

I have followed with great interest this conversation and its many threads.
It can be compared almost point for point with the world of sleight of hand
magic, a hobby I have been in for over 30 years. Like origami card magic has
it's "moves" akin to folding techniques. these moves or sleights are the
alphabet of magic, and once you learn the alphabet, you can create the card
effect or the origami model.  magicians publish their effects, have
conventions just like we do, where we share and learn. The only difference
is this. It is the unwritten law of magic that if it (a sleight or card
trick) is published it is in the public domain so to speak. thus If I
perform trick a from "Joe's magic book" in a paying setting owe Joe nothing.
If I win a contest (as I have done)using his published moves/effects he gets
nothing. I have performed for paying customers, effects which were created
by magicians who happened to be in the audience, and the same has happened
to me. I performed it and I reap the benefits, if any. However if something
has been shown to you in private or is not published. it is taboo to use it
in a public setting or profit from it without permission. Like magic,
origami has a few lucky individuals who can live off their craft (more power
to them) and a big part of their income is derived from selling their new
ideas, they charge accordingly because this will be the only time they
profit from the effect.  The major difference I see is that origami is
tangible.  When I (and I have not yet)sell a Joseph wu pig its there for the
world to see. When I perform a card effect, I or someone else has created,
it s there for a while, then fades. Some magicians when selling their
products, do reserve public performance rights. They simply want a small fee
or the right to grant or deny permission.  There is nothing wrong with this.
I like most folders want more models, if  a folder wants some compensation
for his work, if sold above  a certain amount, why not.  How many times does
this really happen? Models that are very complex and have taken hours, I
give away. One of the problems is that because of the creatively of folders
such as Joseph, Dr lang and john montroll, origami models are now both
complex and beautiful and thus desirable.  I wet folded a neale dragon with
a custom head out of washi and gave it to my in-laws, who displayed it in
their home. My in-laws who are well off had some friends over, who were so
taken by it, they wanted to know who the artist was, and what it cost them.
Because this was for family, this dragon has a wing structure with ribs, an
elaborate tail and detailed face. The friends were surprised it was free and
asked my in-laws would I create them one, which is how I found out about
this. I declined, made them something else and did not charge them. But the
point is, if they were so taken by my work, what about something folded by
those with greater skills. The money was there, the labor involved was way
out of step with the reward, why should the creator not share. In a earlier
thread, the musical analogy was used. I agree that does not work. Its the
end result. we all know the alphabet, the reverse folds, but we create or
write differently.  I can read music, but my compositions would reek, I can
do some complex origami folds, but my creations as a result of them would
also reek. Joe to keep using him as an example knows the same moves (and
many more)but his results are different. I do not believe that the recent
emphasis on "creator rights" will in any way hamper or slow the spread of
origami.  Even if origami was the in thing, creators have the right to
withhold. I will not perform certain effects in front of magicians, because
1, if the idea is new and I have not published, the chances are that someone
else will (using or not using my moves) and
2, just as some origami artists, because of their knowledge and skill can
look at a new model and easily create a similar method of recreation. I and
a lot of  other experienced card magicians, can look at someone performing
and know how they did it and recreate it. I can understand the reluctance of
Joe to show certain models (although unless it a new idea being folded, not
many of us , me included would have a clue as how to reverse engineer it
from sight). So I propose this. Those artists who want some compensation for
models, tell us what you think is the point the line should be drawn at.
this can be done in you latest book, on the list, at the conventions. The
origami world has it so easy. the ousa annuals have 50 plus models for a
bargain price. a comparable magic book would cost me over $300.00. Magic has
now become an acceptable profession, lets see if the art of paper sculpture
can do the same





From: Lory <lory@NETSIS.IT>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:53:19 +0200
Subject: Re: Cats

Hi Donna (Robin? :))
I'm interested to receive ur cat diagram.... i think it's great to design an
origami but i don't make it well.
I can view gif, jpg and other image format and also pdf.
If u can send me ur diagram (in mail), choose the format u prefer.

Thank u very much
Lorenzo  (sorry for my bad english)

Donna & Robin wrote:

> If anyone is interested I have designed a cat based on a character from a
> Japanese animated film called Kiki's Delivery Service' if anyone would like
> the diagrams let me know (including the preferred file format). The cat is
> fairly realistic but the aim was to make it as cute as the character in the
> fim.





From: Bob Stack <Noobob@AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:23:11 -0400 (
Subject: Re: origami capitalism (long)

David Walker said that a magic book comparable  to the OUSA annual collection
would cost  about $300.00 adding that it contains upward of 50 models.
Actually it has about  100 models.  As for price it is the labor of love.
Although it would be impossible to figure a price for the book It would cost
more than $300.00 if everyone were paid for his or her contribution.





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:53:40 -0700
Subject: Re: Dutch Origami Convention

Wow!!!!  You guys know how to throw a Convention!!!!  Was that considered
"Wet Folding"?????  : - )

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
madawson@sprynet.com

p.s. just returned from being out of town for 10 days ............... 319
e-messages just from this list!!!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Maarten van Gelder <VGelder@KVI.NL>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Saturday, May 15, 1999 1:26 PM
Subject: Dutch Origami Convention

In April we had our Origami Convention weekend in Veldhoven (The
Netherlands).

At Saturday night we tried folding with our feet.  I had done that
before on
novelty competitions in London, Toulouse and New York.

The one thing very different from that times was: we had a girl with us
that is
born without arms or hands.  Kim van Dinther user het feet for
everything.

We started with the flapping bird.  I finshed as first flapping the bird
with
my feet long before anybody else.  But Kim did it fast also and: very
neat.

Next we tried the OUSA logo (the boat). We all managed nice.

After that Wil Haarsma said to Kim: "You are used to using your feet.
We make
it more difficult for you.  Can you fold the boat with only one foot?".

Kim started, but Sjaak Adriaanse (he is also on this list) and I
couldn't
resist the challenge.  We managed all three.  Kim was the fastest and
neatest.
I was second.  Afterwards I had some pains in my thigh muscles: I used
muscles
I didn't know I had.

Most people around enjoyed seeing Sjaak folding the first diagonal.  He
had
troubles and raised from his chair.  Turning left and right: a kind of
ballet!

To fold with one foot you need a floor that gives resistance.  Parquet
is too
slippery, carpet is good.

----

Sunday morning we met with some people in the swimming pool.

I had prepared some translucent plastic sheets of 10 x 10 cm.  We tried
and
folded under water.  The difficulty then is: you can't see the sheet,
only feel
it.

We folded the double boat and floated it.  Mine went under and I
couldn't find
it anymore! But luckily someone else touched it and returned it to me.

--
Maarten van Gelder    KVI - Groningen, Netherlands    vgelder@kvi.nl





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:53:09 -0700
Subject: [NO]  Net Lingo

Is there an Internet abbreviation dictionary that can help
decipher all these abbreviated word groups for the
"new to the internet person"? (or don't I want to know?)

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark and Theresa <mark@HOBBITON.FORCE9.NET>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Japanese book

>> Mark,
>> At 12.01 16/5/1999 +0100, you wrote:
>> >I have seen a book (by Kasahara) with loads of nice folds of animals,
>> >mostly fairly simple on the whole. However I can't get my own copy!
>>
>> Can you tell me the ISBN (and the title, if you know it ?). Kasahara has
>> published hundreds of books, the one you mention may well be out of
print.
>> I don't think that London bookshops can be of much help.....
>>
>The book is quite recent AFAIK, and Dave Brill had got it recently in
>London, hence my initial ideas. I wasn't being intentionally vague, it
>was just a way of asking how to get foreign language material from
>English speaking (or American speaking!!) sources. I did try Sasuga
>books who reckoned they could get it direct from Japan in 3-4 weeks, but
>i dread to think what the cost would be!!!!
>Anyway, the ISBN is 4537014938, and I can't give you the title because I
>don't read Japanese!!!!.
>
>
>--
>Mark





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:16:54 -0700
Subject: Re: [NO]  Net Lingo

Hi MaryAnn!

AFAIK, this should help you:

http://www.netlingo.com/

Have fun and don't forget to LOL!

Dorothy





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:24:46 -0700
Subject: Re: question about the cranes

Hi Wing!

You wondered whether you could send your cranes to Dee Lynch in August.

I think that would be fine and thanks for your inquiry!

Dorothy





From: Eric Andersen <ema@NETSPACE.ORG>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:50:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Engel's octupus

On Mon, 24 May 1999, Ken Lehner wrote:

>I managed to fold this model using tissue paper (spray-)glued to both sides
>of household aluminum foil.  I believe I used either a 10" or 12" square.  If
>you want to see the resulting model, get Dorothy Engleman's
>"Folding California" :-) :-) :-)

Hi all,
You can see this octopus on my Web site:

Small:
http://www.paperfolding.com/images/octopus2.jpg
Big:
http://www.paperfolding.com/images/octopus.jpg

-Eric :-P
origami@netspace.org

/=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\
\   Eric Andersen                                       /
/    Mathematics, Music             ~  ~ __o            \
\     and Origami                 ~  ~ _-\<'_           /
/      ema@netspace.org        ~    ~ (_)/ (_)          \
\=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/
         *** http://www.paperfolding.com ***





From: Chinh Nguyen <chinhsta@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:12:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Engel's octupus

On Mon, 24 May 1999, david whitbeck wrote:

> Hi everybody!  Thanks to all of you that replied to my email concerning
> Meguro, especially Mr. Lang who told me about the Treemaker (that will take
> me awhile to go through) now I can tell people that a celebrity replied to
> my email!  Anyhow, I was folding Engel's Octupus when I got a result that
> was not pleasing due to the model's thickness, I admit I was folding from
> typewriter paper which I thought should have been thin enough, but wasn't.
> Does anyone have any advice on folding Engel's octupus?  I'm not having
> trouble with the folds, just the thickness.  Thanks for your time, happy
> folding.

For Engel, I think it's impossible to get good results without using
foil--even his giraffe and kangaroo splay hopelessly if you use ordinary
paper.  Especially with the octopus'/squids' thickness, the layers get
clumsy to handle if you don't use foil.  Ordinary foil wrapping paper
should do the trick.





From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:56:29 +0200
Subject: Re: Monstruos de Papel

I had a lesson with him (Fernando Gilgado Gomez) at the Scandinavic
Convention and he taught me how to fold his Satan. It is the most impressing
model of Satan I have ever seen. Even after having seen Maekawa's devil.

I strongly recommend his book.

Ariel/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 11:52 AM
Subject: Monstruous de Papel (WAS: Re: Paris Convention)

>On 23-May-99, Russell Sutherland (RGS467@AOL.COM) wrote:
>
>>Fernando Guajardo Gomez exhibited his collection of monsters from his
>>new book "Origami Monsters." Fernando uses interesting papers to fold
>>his intricate creatures.  This book is a must for those who have an
>>interest in SCI-FI...  if not for the ALIEN alone.
>
>Not just one alien, three aliens!  Facehugger, baby alien and an adult
>one.  Well, I might just type in the contents:
>
>Luna                    Moon
>Sol                     Sun
>Alien 1                 Facehugger
>Alien 2                 Baby alien
>Alien 3                 Adult alien
>Stiro                  Satyre
>Minotauro               Minotaur
>Demonio                 Demon
>Dragn                  Dragon
>Dragn Chino            Chinese dragon
>Dragn de 3 Cabezas     Three-headed dragon (with three different heads)
>
>All text in Spanish but diagrams are very clear (and there's very
>little text in diagrams anyway).  The book doesn't have an ISBN, so
>you alien-freaks should probably write to
>
>Fernando Gilgado Gomez
>C/ Valdecanillas 65, 2-C
>28037 Madrid
>ESPANA
>
>Phone: 917541646 (+whaterver it takes to call Spain from your country!)
>
>
>I have his email address somewhere so I can forward your mail to him
>or simply tell it to ones asking for it in private mail (if I get his
>permission to do that, that is).
>
>
>
>For masochist alien freaks:  use 70cm (~27") leatherette sheet for the
>facehugger and you have an instant sci-fi -convention mask...
>
>
>--
>Jorma "hug me anytime" Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi
>
>Weyland-Yutani - Building Better Worlds





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:59:53 -0700
Subject: Re: origami capitalism

If I go to the bookstore or library, the shelves are filled with "How-To"
books that give instructions on how to make floral decorations, Christmas
Decorations, birdhouses & many other items.  When I go to craft shows I see
many of these items for sale & no one is standing around arguing about copy
rights or who designed the article etc.   Many people do not have an
imagination and make the item to look EXACTLY like the picture.

If an Origami Book has diagrams, is it not a "How-To" book?  And....... if I
make it and give it as a gift is that OK but if I sell it to someone else
who gives it as a gift, then that is not OK?

If I were not associated with an origami association I would not even have
thought about the idea that perhaps I could not use the ideas in origami
books to make items to sell without the permission of the author.  Indeed, I
have some books that I bought written in a foreign language that do not even
give ANY creators or diagramers (as far as I can tell).  Who then do I ask
for permission?

Origami items that I sell begin (so do anyhow) with an idea in a book but
are my own creation in that I choose paper (type, color combinations, size
etc.) and then very often embellishments (beads, feathers, paint) and
exactly what the finished unit will be used for (jewelry mostly).  And even
when I sell them, I see people looking at them taking mental notes
(sometimes even written notes!) & I know they are going to go home & try to
make it themselves.  And I have gotten inspiration by looking at others
work.

I have come a long way in my origami folding from the first 6 free classes
that Michael Shall taught at the Museum of Natural History in NY.  All that
was asked in return, on the honor system, was that I volunteer to teach
children at the museum's teaching tables around the Origami Holiday Tree at
Christmas.  I have purchased MANY dollars worth of books, spend many dollars
on classes at the museum (including travel money), paid to travel to origami
events in other cities............. it's just like learning any other skill.
It requires an investment of time and money.  Other people who learn other
skills then become teachers or creators or authors or whatever and earn an
income (some even earn a LIVING!!!!!).  I believe that there can be a good
mix or volunteering and charging fees.  (And giving credit where credit is
due makes both individuals feel good!)

So sayeth me!

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
madawson@sprynet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Michie Sahara <michies@WESTWORLD.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 9:14 AM
Subject: origami capitalism

>I don't see anything wrong in making money with origami.  Not only in
>selling our book or teaching we make origami artwork to sell. Our origami
>artworks are sometimes a canvas with origami on it or a branch with origami
>on it.  ( There are photos of them in the last chapter of our book.) I
don't
>think most people appreciate things when they are given free.  Since our
>works are made mostly of washi, paper alone is very expensive.  Like
Mathias
>Gutfeldt said the time we spent on creating is the time we should get paid,
>too.  I want to raise the people's appreciation of origami...to make
origami
>valuable. One way to achieve this I feel is to have them pay for it.  I
want
>people to think of origami as art, just like a painting or a sculpture.
>People pay for them so why not for origami!
>Now so far we only fold connected cranes so they are traditional...sort of
>like in public domain.  Therefore there is no neccesity of paying a
royalty,
>but it seems that you need to pay a royalty for a creation by someone.  Of
>course you will mention the original creator's name, but like Mathias said
>the actual profit may be very little and to share that with the author
might
>be difficult.  Anyway I do want to raise the value of origami by having
>people pay for the finished work.





From: "Juan P. Fernandez" <jpf@DAISY.PHAST.UMASS.EDU>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:26:20 -0400
Subject: Engel's giraffe

On Mon, 24 May 1999, Chinh Nguyen wrote:
>
> For Engel, I think it's impossible to get good results without using
> foil--even his giraffe and kangaroo splay hopelessly if you use ordinary
> paper.  Especially with the octopus'/squids' thickness, the layers get
> clumsy to handle if you don't use foil.  Ordinary foil wrapping paper
> should do the trick.

I beg to differ.  I have folded Engel's giraffe many
times, with all kinds and sizes of paper, and all of
them still look the same after months of standing
there.

jp





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:05:13 -0700
Subject: Lang's Treemaker

I have seen Lang's Treemaker program mentioned several times on this list.

Would someone be kind enought to explain what this is?

Many Thanks

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
madawson@sprynet.com

Kevin Kinney wrote:

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin Kinney <kinneyk@MSM.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 12:53 PM
>Subject: A class in origami

>Design
        (Including, possibly, the ideas behind Lang's Treemaker program)

>Kevin Kinney
>kinneyk@msm.edu





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:30:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Lang's Treemaker

> I have seen Lang's Treemaker program mentioned several times on this list.
>
> Would someone be kind enought to explain what this is?

Simply, it is a program that lets you specify the "stick figure" of the
origami piece you wish to fold, and it can find the crease pattern for it,
optimizing to waste the least amount of paper.  It can be found on the origami
ftp site:  ftp.rug.nl/origami.  For lots more details see the manual, or
search the archives (http://www-japan.mit.edu/origami or on the ftp site
above). See Maartin's biweekly email for more information on how to
access/search the archives via email messages, or write me privately if you
haven't saved his message(s).

-Doug





From: Kevin Kinney <kinneyk@MSM.EDU>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:53:15 -0400
Subject: Paper-coating, also Octopus

Okay, the last first:

I accidentally re-invented Engel's octopus a couple of years back (I had folded
     it once four or five years ago), and found that it works nicely, even from
     six-inch washi type paper, if wet-folded-the tentacles are thick, but hold
     together just fine with a
 little wet encouragement.

Now for my question:  I have a model which is, essentially either a coffee mug
     or a wine goblet (depending on a few variations).  I'd like to make one
     that is waterproof and a little more durable than foil-backed paper.  Does
     anyone have any suggested a c
 ating substance that is clear, able to impart water-proof-ness and some added
     durability (say to make it washable) that is, importantly, non-toxic?

(And thanks to all for suggestions on the origami course.  I'll propose it this
     September, and let you know how it goes)

Kevin Kinney
kinneyk@msm.edu





From: Gerard Blais <gblais@NORTELNETWORKS.COM>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:03:04 -0400
Subject: Origami-Montreal - next meeting

The next meeting of Origami-Montreal will be held:

Sunday, May 30, from 1 PM to 4 PM,
at 6848 Christophe-Colomb, Montreal.

On the menu:
    - Discussions: local events, international events, new books,
      interesting news, etc.
    - Planification/Annoncement of the next meeting.
    - Folding workshop: "Cranes", presented by Jean Villemaire.
    - Free folding, discussion, etc.

Origami material (i.e. paper) will be provided for those who need it.

See you Sunday!  Be there or be "square"! :-)

Gerard

+-----+ Origami-Montreal
|     | Phone & fax: (450) 448-2530 (Hideko Sinto)
|     | email: origami@francomedia.qc.ca (Hideko Sinto)
+-----+ web: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Den/8802





From: Valerie Kull <VKull@ENVIRONCORP.COM>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:52:21 -0400
Subject: Plain Human Figure model?

Hi, fellow folders!

I'm new to the list, and I've really been enjoying the origami
cross-chat. At last, other people who are interested in folding paper!
Now I have a question of my own, that perhaps some knowledgeable person
can help me with.

I'd like to make a mobile for a dancer friend. I thought it would be
nice to find a model for a plain human figure that I could fold into
various poses -- somersault, high kick, jumping, etc. Most models for
human figures seem to be for a specific person, for instance, a
ballerina or a wizard. I'm looking for something general, more like the
classic nude of sculpture (acceptable for public display, of course).
Maybe this will be my opportunity to try wet-folding, like I've been
claiming I would for the last year or so. Any level of difficulty except
super-complex/diabolical is fine.

Does anyone out there know of a likely model?

Thanks in advance,
Valerie





From: Chinh Nguyen <chinhsta@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:28:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Engel's giraffe

On Tue, 25 May 1999, Juan P. Fernandez wrote:

> I beg to differ.  I have folded Engel's giraffe many
> times, with all kinds and sizes of paper, and all of
> them still look the same after months of standing
> there.

With kami?





From: Chinh Nguyen <chinhsta@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:30:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Monstruos de Papel

On Tue, 25 May 1999, Ariel wrote:

> I had a lesson with him (Fernando Gilgado Gomez) at the Scandinavic
> Convention and he taught me how to fold his Satan. It is the most impressing
> model of Satan I have ever seen. Even after having seen Maekawa's devil.

I'm sold.  How can I go about getting his book?  Will Fascinating
folds/Kim's Crane/OrigamiUSA/Sasuga be getting it any time soon, or
writing him directly the only way to do it?





From: Chinh Nguyen <chinhsta@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:30:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Monstruos de Papel

On Tue, 25 May 1999, Ariel wrote:

> I had a lesson with him (Fernando Gilgado Gomez) at the Scandinavic
> Convention and he taught me how to fold his Satan. It is the most impressing
> model of Satan I have ever seen. Even after having seen Maekawa's devil.

I'm sold.  How can I go about getting his book?  Will Fascinating
folds/Kim's Crane/OrigamiUSA/Sasuga be getting it any time soon, or
writing him directly the only way to do it?
