




From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:27:53 -0700
Subject: 1000 Cranes for Columbine H.S.

Dee Lynch has asked me to remind everyone who wishes to fold cranes for
the Columbine High School students that her correct address is:

Dee Lynch
1350 East Easter Avenue
Littleton, Colorado 80122

Dee, who is the Affiliate News Editor for the OrigamiUSA newsletter,
lives in Littleton and will be coordinating this effort. The cranes will
be presented to the students when they return to school in the fall.

If you'd like to contribute, 6 inch paper in blue (prints or solids) or
silver would be appreciated.  Dee requests that you identify from where
you're sending the cranes.  Why not write your name on the wing of the
bird?

Thanks!
Dorothy





From: "Mr A.S. Malik" <2staron@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:21:45 -0400
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

Hello Susan,

Well I am older than 33, I am 36 and proud of it.
I also belong to the B.O.S, and feal that you would be able
learn more about this great art from there web page.
I will be going off to Paris to show of some Origami Star-Trek
space ships that were designed by Larry Hart, and My self.
If you live in London then maybe you might want to come
to one of our mini meetings, I am sure you will enjoy it.

Happy folding................Asghar.





From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:32:58 -0700 (
Subject: Hello

Hello origami-aikoukas!  I have one quick question.  I would like to know if
there is any origami folders meetings around the Boston area.  I live a few
towns away from Boston and I hope that during this summer I can meet some
other origami fans and so we can learn from each other.  I am not very good
in speaking in English but I can understand most of it, so I hope that you
can explain to me if there is any meetings.  I also hope that it can be
during the weekends because I will have rides then,  Thank you very much!

Wing

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>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Origami Politics 287648762386`
>Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:06:50 -0500
>
> > A bunch of messages have been repeats on both ends!
>
>if that is so then it has all been said already and there is no more to
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From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:37:33 -0700 (
Subject: Re: Moving Origami

Dear Terry, I am sorry that I am not sure if I have replied to your e-mai
laor not.  But I just would lie to thank you for giving me the suggestions.
I went to Sasuga Bookstore but I did not find the two books you mentioned, I
am going to go there again during the summer and I hope that I can find some
good books then.  They said they will have more imports by then so I am
looking forward to get some good books.

Thank you.

Wing

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From: Michael and Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:22:03 -0400
Subject: Re: from N.J. convention packet

My wife is away, but I thought everyone would like to know that the
convention packet has made it all the way to NJ from NYC.

Mike (in place of Janet).

mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj
----- Original Message -----
From: <DORIGAMI@AOL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: from N.J. convention packet

> I havent got mine yet either....will we be fined for late registration.
> Dorigami





From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@KIMSCRANE.COM>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:27:53 -0400
Subject: Re: from N.J. convention packet

Well....God Bless America!
Kimberly

Michael and Janet Hamilton wrote:
>
> My wife is away, but I thought everyone would like to know that the
> convention packet has made it all the way to NJ from NYC.
>
> Mike (in place of Janet).
>
> mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
> http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DORIGAMI@AOL.COM>
> To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: from N.J. convention packet
>
> > I havent got mine yet either....will we be fined for late registration.
> > Dorigami





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:50:30 -0400 (
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

Dear Susan, Take it from a 73 year old who has been involved in Origami for
39 years with a passion, Origami is lots of fun, lots of sharing, idea
inspiring, creative, and just altogether yummy.  You can quote me in your
report.........Dorigami





From: Steve Antill <ste@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:59:40 +0100
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

Hi Susan,

I'm pretty old (33!) but I wonder if you know that there is a British
Origami Society. It has a section for young people.

I can't tell you a huge amount about it as I only joined myself earlier this
year, but they do have a website at:

http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/index.html

And good look with the presentation!

- Steve
  ste@dial.pipex.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Johnston <supersuzy2000@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: 10 May 1999 20:40
Subject: hello origami people!!!

>Hi everyone,
>I joined the mailing list yesterday and i have already received 18 emails!
>But i did not know what everyone was talking about!  Errrrrrmmmm... i don't
>know what to say...
>Oh yeah... are there any other young people from england on this list.  (i
>am 13). if there are please reply.  I would love to hear about other paper
>folders
>I became interested in origami from a book in the WHSmith sales when i was
>11.  I also learn Japanese which is really fun!
>Oh and before i go and get ready for bed and do more homework (i've got a
>japanese exam tomorrow!) i thought that i'd tell you that i'm basing a
>presentation i have to do a school on origami!!!
>
>If any of you can think of something useful to say, then please let me know
>Bye!!
>
>P.S - everybody keep on sending emails! (i love having lots and lots of
>emails!!!)  From Susan
>
>
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From: Michael and Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:07:50 -0400
Subject: Re: from N.J. convention packet

I'm responding for my wife (who is off to Chicago on business). Anyway, the
convention packet made it here today. Not bad, NYC to NJ in only 6 days!

If you saw this post earlier, sorry. It didn't appear to make it.

Mike (for the missing Janet)
mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj
----- Original Message -----
From: <DORIGAMI@AOL.COM>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: from N.J. convention packet

> I havent got mine yet either....will we be fined for late registration.
> Dorigami





From: Paul Chabot <OrKman15@AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:24:16 -0400 (
Subject: Boston area folders

Hi Wing,

My name is Paul Chabot and there is one group that meets about half an hour
out of Boston in Littleton Ma (near Lowell). I, myself come out of New
Hampshire and it doesn't take longer than a half hour. I think we are calling
ourselves LOG now (right dennis?), standing for Littleton Origami Group, and
we have quite the group of folders. We meet on the last Tuesday of the month
at the Littleton public library. If your interested let me know.





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:34:24 -0500
Subject: New model

Hi,

This is the last of the space ships from the 70's and I think the
best of them!
I hope you like it!   I was inspired by the works of Kunihiko
Kasahara, and eventualy I will get hold of the book I got it from
so long ago!(the Idea that is)

Perry
--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:41:59 +0100
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

Mr A.S. Malik <2staron@COMPUSERVE.COM> sez

>Well I am older than 33, I am 36 and proud of it.
>I also belong to the B.O.S,

I'm 42 and feel past it!
I also belong to the BOS.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos





From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 06:06:01 +0900
Subject: Re: Japanenglish

Hello all,

> I don't think the melting of origami- (written from japanese pronunciation)
> and -an or -ist (english termination) is correct. Let be purists (-:
>
> I'm not an expert in Japanese, but as far as I know, someone who practise
> judo is called a judoKA, if you practise karate, you're a karateKA [OK, for
> sumo, you're a sumo... The exception confirms the rule (?)]
>
> So, here is my question to all of you who speak japanese :
>
> Shouldn't a person who fold paper (in a japanese way) be named "ORIGAMIKA
"
> rather than origamist ?

If you practice sumo, you are a sumo-tori or a rikishi.
Then if origami,... we have no single word in Japanese.
We use origami-sakka (origami designer), origami-aikouka
(origami lover), or even origamian or origamist.

 _ _ _ _ _
|         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
|_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
|         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
|_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
 If they keep on risking failure, they're still artists. (S.Jobs)





From: 3d <3d@NWFX.COM>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:04:08 -0700
Subject: Violins anyone?!

Hi everyone,

I am trying to find a source for a nice violin model, just the model, not
the player. (ie, not from Lang's "Complete" book).

I have one from an Origami USA annual from a few years back, but I am
looking for anything
that might be different/better.

Thanks in advance,

Dave R. Howe





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:04:43 -0700
Subject: Re: Violins anyone?!

Hi Dave!

The only violin model I know of was designed by Daniel Porter.  It's a
beautifully detailed model.  Is this the one diagrammed in the OUSA
annual?

Dorothy





From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:19:44 -0500
Subject: convention packet

Well I do not remember when I got mine.
It was before the people started to moan and whine about it.
(and rightly so)
But well in time to make the deadline.
and I live in Kansas.
I won't even be going.
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From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:35:28 -0700 (
Subject: Re: Boston area folders

Dear Paul,  I would love to attend the meetings but I think I have to decide
I can go there or not only during the summer wheh school is over. I will let
you know when I have the decision.   Thank you very much.
Wing

>From: Paul Chabot <OrKman15@AOL.COM>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Boston area folders
>Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:24:16 EDT
>
>Hi Wing,
>
>My name is Paul Chabot and there is one group that meets about half an hour
>out of Boston in Littleton Ma (near Lowell). I, myself come out of New
>Hampshire and it doesn't take longer than a half hour. I think we are
>calling
>ourselves LOG now (right dennis?), standing for Littleton Origami Group,
>and
>we have quite the group of folders. We meet on the last Tuesday of the
>month
>at the Littleton public library. If your interested let me know.

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From: Richard Kennedy <r.a.kennedy@BHAM.AC.UK>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:50:29 +0100
Subject: Re: hello origami people - UK groups

Dear Susan

I think Ash mentioned that there is an origami group which meets regularly
in London. Perhaps you do not live in London? There are also groups which
meet in:

Birmingham
Bristol
Derby/Nottingham
Manchester

(I hope I've not missed any groups). If one of these groups sounds to be
close to your home, then I'm sure someone on the list will be able to provide
you with a way to contact the meeting organiser.

I go to the Birmingham meetings, and also the Derby/Nottingham meetings.
They are a lot of fun, and my origami has improved a lot as a result of
attending the meetings.

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:25:17 +0100
Subject: Re: hello origami people - UK groups

Richard Kennedy <r.a.kennedy@BHAM.AC.UK> sez

>If one of these groups sounds to be
>close to your home, then I'm sure someone on the list will be able to provide
>you with a way to contact the meeting organiser.

Go to the BOS site, click on Meetings, Mini-meetings & there are contact
details for all meetings that we know of...

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
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From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:08:07 +0200
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

Susan,
At 20.33 10/5/1999 BST, you wrote:

>P.S - everybody keep on sending emails! (i love having lots and lots of
>emails!!!)  From Susan

Don't worry.... you will soon get tired of emails..... ;-)

Roberto





From: Christy <TnTrouble3@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:40:15 -0400
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

Could someone please tell me where to start..... I havent done origami in
since iw as in grade school.... i need beginner insctructions, materials
etc.....thanks Christy
----- Original Message -----
From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

> Susan,
> At 20.33 10/5/1999 BST, you wrote:
>
> >P.S - everybody keep on sending emails! (i love having lots and lots of
> >emails!!!)  From Susan
>
> Don't worry.... you will soon get tired of emails..... ;-)
>
> Roberto





From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:37:35 -0700 (
Subject: VIOLINS   AND TANKS ?

I believe there is a simple diagram for a violin on the Bay Area
Rapid Folders web site.

Regards

Imtiaz

ps. anyone know of the existence of diagrams for an origami tank?

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From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:00:50 -0700
Subject: Re: VIOLINS   AND TANKS ?

Hi Imtiaz!

Robert Harbin's "Origami 4, The Art of Paper-Folding" has diagrams for a
tank designed by Laurie Bisman of New Zealand.

Dorothy





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:16:52 -0400
Subject: Shuji Sano

I am looking for information about an origamist by the name of Shuji Sano
who is from Omiya Japan. If you know of this person I would appreciate it
greatly if you would please email me privately.

Thank you.

Jeff Kerwood





From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:39:52 -0500
Subject: Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet

What we have here is one foolish person that believes that God would focus
on ONE country over another, and another foolish person that takes that
personally enough to comment sarcastically about it.

Brett

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Joseph Wu [mailto:josephwu@ULTRANET.CA]
                Sent:   Monday, May 10, 1999 5:26 PM
                To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
                Subject:        [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet

                At 18:27 99/05/10 -0400, you wrote:
                >Well....God Bless America!

                Yes...where it's needed most, right?

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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:12:47 -0700
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

At 13:27 99/05/12 +0100, you wrote:
>I've just asked my sixteen year old daughter to suggest a better name than
>Juniors. She can't, but says that my idea of orikids is really bad. But what
>does she know? At sixteen she's definitely too old to be cool ....

Well, considering that "orikids" might well mean "folded children" or
"folded baby goats"... 8)
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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:14:25 -0700
Subject: Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet

At 09:39 99/05/12 -0500, you wrote:
>What we have here is one foolish person that believes that God would focus
>on ONE country over another, and another foolish person that takes that
>personally enough to comment sarcastically about it.

And a third foolish person...

Let's end this here, okay? Your comment was just as uncalled for as mine was.

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From: david whitbeck <dmwhitbeck@UCDAVIS.EDU>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:30:32 -0700
Subject: paper and questions

        Hi, my name is David.  I'm brand new to this email group.  I was
wondering what kind of paper is best for the average Lang/Montroll/Engels
models?  I've just been using typewriter paper I can buy at Raley's or
Longs (hey it's cheap, thin and doesn't tear easy!)  I would also like to
know what kind of paper you guys generally use for wetfolding and any other
supplies needed. I've never wetfolded before.
        Is it just me, or is Brill's original instructions for the lidded
box easier than the revised instructions?  Is there any new origami books
out?  And one last question, is there a way to close/lock Lang's parrot
(from the Complete Book of Origami) without using tweesers?  And while I'm
at, I could never do the sink on the fins on Lang's lionfish (from Origami
Sealife) any suggestions would be helpful.

Sincerely,

David





From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:59:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet

No.

This is an Origami discussion group.  But, it is very informal and you are
pretty free to talk about anything under one condition.  That you TAG the
subject header with [NO] which stands for NON-ORIGAMI content.

Brett

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   AvriI@AOL.COM [mailto:AvriI@AOL.COM]
                Sent:   Wednesday, May 12, 1999 10:03 AM
                To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
                Subject:        Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet

                I was under the impression that this was an origami group.
Was I mistaken?





From: AvriI@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:02:36 -0400 (
Subject: Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet

I was under the impression that this was an origami group.  Was I mistaken?





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:03:28 -0700
Subject: Jerry Harris's "Tyrannosaurus"

Before I offer my criticisms, let me first say that I did enjoy folding the
model. Here are some observations and suggestions:

1. The formation of the legs (and thus the formation of the arms and of the
head area) was very similar to YOSHINO Issei's T-rex model (found in "Issei
Super Complex Origami").
2. Shading was very well used in step 27c, but less so in the final image of
the completed model.
3. The excess layers that were used to form the legs become an encumberance
starting at step 30. They form an exceptionally thick mass in step 34 that
makes subsequent maneouvring difficult.

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From: Jennifer <jsgerrish@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:09:40 -0700
Subject: New folder needs help with Kawasaki Rose

I am a newer folder who attempted to fold the Kawasaki Rose but got
stumped on step 21 where you are to fold the flaps created by the twist
fold onto one another to create a cylinder.  Can someone help me out?  I
am not quite sure which end should be up, is it the small square created
on the bottom side of the twist fold or is it the center created by the
overlapping twist folds on the top of the paper.  How do I get the
cylindrical shape.

Thanks in advance.

jsgerrish@yahoo.com





From: Rick Beech <Ricknbeech@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:47:23 -0400 (
Subject: Attn: British Subscribers to Origami - l

It may be of interest to some to learn the origins behind a wonderful piece
of origami
animation currently being  shown on British Television, ITV3, Channel 4 and
Channel 5:
The commercial is to advertise the Elections, and shows a glossy leaflet
posted through a
letterbox, which falls gracefully to the floor, whereupon it begins folding
itself into various
origami models: A Flower, a Train, a Factory, and a Chicken, representing
governmental
agenda such as Transport and Industry. I was particularly proud to be
associated with
such a splendid piece of work, which was commissioned by a company called
Loose Moose, and carried out by a team of animators and model - makers at
Artem, special
effects people, in London, with whom I worked closely, in realising the
origami "morfing"
process from one creation to the next. Even though a lot of purist principles
of origami were customarily overlooked (!!), the animation really works in
projecting the idea that
a single leaflet could be turned into all those models.......at least to Joe
Public!!
Regards, Rick Beech.





From: Binzi <binzi@MUENSTER.DE>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:18:27 +0200
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

Hello Asghar,

that is funny, we've got the same special liking for Origami and Star -
Trek.
I have been searching web pages for models and diagrams, but only found
xwing fighters and klingon ships yet.
Did you, or will you publish your models/diagrams somewhere in books or on
web sites?
You would make a lot of trekkies happy!

cu
Evi





From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:27:04 +0100
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

Nick Robinson wrote......<I'm 42 and feel past it!>

Occasionally feelings can reflect the truth.

Now the relevant bit ....

There are quite a few Junior members in the BOS. (Why we call them Juniors I
really don't know. Probably because the BOS was founded when the dinosaurs
still ruled the earth, and we haven't noticed that times have moved on yet,
but don't let that put you off.)

I've just asked my sixteen year old daughter to suggest a better name than
Juniors. She can't, but says that my idea of orikids is really bad. But what
does she know? At sixteen she's definitely too old to be cool ....

Anyway, the point is that there are often quite a few young teenage and
younger still folders at BOS meetings and many of them also contribute
models and article to the BOS mag. Most of them are better folders than I
am, have better taste in origami and (I am told!) an infinitely better taste
in fashion.

Dave





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:15:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet

Is that the pot calling the kettle black?

MASD
-----Original Message-----
From: Askinazi, Brett <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet

>What we have here is one foolish person that believes that God would focus
>on ONE country over another, and another foolish person that takes that
>personally enough to comment sarcastically about it.
>
>Brett
>
>                -----Original Message-----
>                From:   Joseph Wu [mailto:josephwu@ULTRANET.CA]
>                Sent:   Monday, May 10, 1999 5:26 PM
>                To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>                Subject:        [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet
>
>                At 18:27 99/05/10 -0400, you wrote:
>                >Well....God Bless America!
>
>                Yes...where it's needed most, right?
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>                Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
>                t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e:
>josephwu@ultranet.ca
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From: Kyle Barger <kbarger@NAVPOINT.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:17:00 -0400
Subject: Folding Kepler's Star (Kasahara, Origami Omnibus)

I could use some advice on the Kepler's Star found on p. 214-215 of
Kasahara's Origami Omnibus.  My problem is with the very last step of the
"slot" module on p. 215.  I can't figure out, after all the folds have been
made, how it locks together.  It obviously involves the "extra paper" left
after folding the series of equilateral triangles earlier in the process,
but I can't figure out how to do it & get a reasonably tight unit.  Thanks
for any suggestions.





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:57:51 -0500
Subject: Re: New folder needs help with Kawasaki Rose

For Jennifer, here is an attempt at explaining steps 20 and 21 of Winson
Chan's Kawasaki New Rose diagrams:

Start with the side with the small square facing down. To get the flaps
moving, grasp the folded edges of two opposite flaps and push them toward
the center and back out a few times, in other words, push your hands
toward each other. The model will become springy. Turn the model 90
degrees and work the other two flaps in the same way. The piece will
start to become three dimensional, and it will be easy to overlap the
edges. The central small square will sink down as the piece become a
cylinder. The edges of the twist fold are on top. The actual central
square that may be seen  in step 19 is underneath and inside the model.
The four flaps lie flat against one another.

Some other corrections to the diagrams:
1. Repeat steps 13-16 on all four sides.
2. Step 24: the diagonal valley fold should extend through 4 squares
instead of 3, the vertical mountain fold should be moved to the right one
square, and the horizontal mountain fold should move down one square.

Good luck! This is a gorgeous design.

-Jane





From: Binzi <binzi@MUENSTER.DE>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:07:00 +0200
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

P.S..... I forgot to tell, that I am looking especially for an "USS
Enterprise"
space ship model.

Happy folding
Evi





From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:11:53 -0700 (
Subject: Re: paper and questions

>
>         Hi, my name is David.  I'm brand new to this email group.

Welcome.

>I was
>wondering what kind of paper is best for the average Lang/Montroll/Engels
>models?  I've just been using typewriter paper I can buy at Raley's or
>Longs (hey it's cheap, thin and doesn't tear easy!)
I think that typing paper is the best all-around origami paper there is.
Basically the only Lang model that I have trouble with when folding from
this is his Praying Mantis.  All of the Montroll models I've folded
(probably over one hundred) come out very nicely with typing paper, although
you can't get those cool effects like stripes or spots.  Engel's are another
story...  I've gotten some semi-satisfactory results with the more complex
models, and haven't tried them with any other paper.

  I would also like to
>know what kind of paper you guys generally use for wetfolding and any other
>supplies needed. I've never wetfolded before.

Well, the most common suggestion is brown wrapping paper, although I've
never tried it.  I usually wet-fold with paper I bought in some art store
that comes in (I think) 21" X 24" sheets, usually cutting them in half
before cutting a square.    Search the archives
http://www-japan.mit.edu/origami/?Archive%20Search=Archive+Search for more
suggestions.

>         Is it just me, or is Brill's original instructions for the lidded
>box easier than the revised instructions?  Is there any new origami books
>out?

Sorry, don't know.

  And one last question, is there a way to close/lock Lang's parrot
>(from the Complete Book of Origami) without using tweesers?

IF you try really hard, generally yes.  But why bother?  Tweezers work fine.

And while I'm
>at, I could never do the sink on the fins on Lang's lionfish (from Origami
>Sealife) any suggestions would be helpful.
>

Sorry again; I can'f find mine at the moment.

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From: Mark and Theresa <mark@HOBBITON.FORCE9.NET>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:46:41 +0100
Subject: Re: Attn: British Subscribers to Origami - l

> It may be of interest to some to learn the origins behind a wonderful piece
> of origami animation currently being  shown on British Television

So, Rick...do I need to video it to make the models or are you going to
publish the diagrams?  ;)

A very good piece of high profile Origami! Well Done!
--
Mark





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <102354.2222@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:12:17 -0400
Subject: Jerry Harris's "Tyrannosaurus"

Message text written by Origami List
>Before I offer my criticisms, let me first say that I did enjoy folding
the
model. Here are some observations and suggestions:

1. The formation of the legs (and thus the formation of the arms and of the
head area) was very similar to YOSHINO Issei's T-rex model (found in "Issei
Super Complex Origami").<

        Yes it is!  Although I'd love to be an innovative enough folder to
find neat new ways of creating things like toes, I'm not quite there yet,
so I still fall back on tired but effective techniques (like the multiple
pleats for toes, the tiny off-center half frog-base at the edge for a lower
jaw point, etc.)

>2. Shading was very well used in step 27c, but less so in the final image
of
the completed model.<

        I thought so, too, but I had some friends on this end who were
dying to see the finished diagrams, so I hurried them a bit.  I will
probably go back and doctor them up a bit.

>3. The excess layers that were used to form the legs become an
encumberance
starting at step 30. They form an exceptionally thick mass in step 34 that
makes subsequent maneouvring difficult.<

        In particular, it makes some of Steps 32-34, 46, 56-58, and some of
the final shaping in 82 difficult.  Again, I'm trying to work towards more
innovative solutions (and better distribution of layers to avoid thick
bunches), but in the meantime, this is what I've got.  (_Tyrannosaurus_ was
a conspicuous absence from my origami dinosaur repetoire...  ;-D  ...and
this is the 3rd one I've created!)  For a somewhat less thick but jawless
model, a very similar _Tyrannosaurus_ can be folded (with some
modification) by just starting with Step 17 as "Step 1."  However, the
added thickness of pleats that runs along the belly which is pulled out and
down in Step 56 to create a fuller gut (instead of giving the model a flat
lower edge) is an added benefit to having that paper there.  The model
works a bit better wet-folded or made from tissue foil, although I have
successfully made it from kami.

        Thanks for your comments, Joseph!

 _,_
 ____/_\,) .. _
--____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
 /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 899-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2866
 102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: "Deborah P. Van Treuren" <deborahv@N-JCENTER.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:43:59 -0400
Subject: Folders in Denver/Littleton

Hi, All,
I will be spending some time in the Denver/Littleton, CO, area for about
10 days. Is there a local folding group? Also is there a local place
with unusual Papers and books for sale?
Deborah





From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:46:23 -0700 (
Subject: [NO] Re: paper and questions

It might be just me, but my most recent posts haven't looked very pretty,
especially regarding the ">"'s on replied messages.  {Begin flame}  This is
probably because of the fact that Microsoft has expanded their monopoly to
include Hotmail; now, the only thing Hotmail works nicely with is IE 5.x,
which I can't run on my Mac IIci.  {End flame}  My appologies, and I'll try
to fix up the problem soon.

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From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:56:11 -0500
Subject: NO: Has Robert Lang quit his job yet?

Remember a few months ago when Robert Lang said we should all buy stock
in his company to drive up the price so he could quit his job and write
origami books full time? Well, I have been following SDLI since then, and
it has gone from 70 to 123: $7 a share today alone!

Is it time yet? Will we be seing lots more of those complex models
shortly?  =)

-Jane, wishing she had bought some!   :(





From: Susan Johnston <supersuzy2000@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:29:13 +0100 (
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

Hi Dave and everybody else again,
Thanks for all of the replies to my fantastic email i sent the other day.
to all of the people who asked, i have sent off to join the BOS and can't
wait to get the magazines.
Oh and i am still working on that talk
i'll tell you how it got on!
See you everyone,
OriSusan - is that a stupid name or what???!!!!

>From: Dave Mitchell <davemitchell@MIZUSHOBAI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!
>Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:27:04 +0100
>
>Nick Robinson wrote......<I'm 42 and feel past it!>
>
>Occasionally feelings can reflect the truth.
>
>Now the relevant bit ....
>
>There are quite a few Junior members in the BOS. (Why we call them Juniors
>I
>really don't know. Probably because the BOS was founded when the dinosaurs
>still ruled the earth, and we haven't noticed that times have moved on yet,
>but don't let that put you off.)
>
>I've just asked my sixteen year old daughter to suggest a better name than
>Juniors. She can't, but says that my idea of orikids is really bad. But
>what
>does she know? At sixteen she's definitely too old to be cool ....
>
>Anyway, the point is that there are often quite a few young teenage and
>younger still folders at BOS meetings and many of them also contribute
>models and article to the BOS mag. Most of them are better folders than I
>am, have better taste in origami and (I am told!) an infinitely better
>taste
>in fashion.
>
>Dave

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From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:32:46 -0700
Subject: Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet

Is there anything scarier than theism and nationalism combined?

>Is that the pot calling the kettle black?
>
>MASD
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Askinazi, Brett <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 7:31 AM
>Subject: Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet
>
>
>>What we have here is one foolish person that believes that God would focus
>>on ONE country over another, and another foolish person that takes that
>>personally enough to comment sarcastically about it.
>>
>>Brett
>>
>>                -----Original Message-----
>>                From:   Joseph Wu [mailto:josephwu@ULTRANET.CA]
>>                Sent:   Monday, May 10, 1999 5:26 PM
>>                To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>>                Subject:        [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet
>>
>>                At 18:27 99/05/10 -0400, you wrote:
>>                >Well....God Bless America!
>>
>>                Yes...where it's needed most, right?
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------
>>                Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
>>                t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e:
>>josephwu@ultranet.ca
>>                w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Chinh Nguyen <chinhsta@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 02:17:54 -0400
Subject: Re: VIOLINS   AND TANKS ?

On Thu, 13 May 1999, Michael Janssen-Gibson wrote:

> Don't let the title fool you. The description of the book included
> "...everything from Chinese dragons and tigers to tanks and jeeps"

indeed.  depending on your tastes, the book may be something of a
disappointment--it is mostly beginner/intermediate models, using multiple
pieces of paper.  the tank is simple.  OTOH, the book has many attractive
ideas for building "sets" or origami using props and ordinary craft
materials.  unless you're into simple models, i wouldn't recommend this
book unless you have good knowledge of japanese (as assembly instructions
for the sets all come in japanese).





From: Mark Morden <marmonk@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 06:06:51 -0700
Subject: Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet

Sure there is: atheism and immorality combined.  ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From:   Christopher Holt [SMTP:Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM]
Sent:   Wednesday, May 12, 1999 10:33 PM
To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet

Is there anything scarier than theism and nationalism combined?

>Is that the pot calling the kettle black?
>
>MASD
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Askinazi, Brett <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 7:31 AM
>Subject: Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet
>
>
>>What we have here is one foolish person that believes that God would focus
>>on ONE country over another, and another foolish person that takes that
>>personally enough to comment sarcastically about it.
>>
>>Brett
>>
>>                -----Original Message-----
>>                From:   Joseph Wu [mailto:josephwu@ULTRANET.CA]
>>                Sent:   Monday, May 10, 1999 5:26 PM
>>                To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>>                Subject:        [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet
>>
>>                At 18:27 99/05/10 -0400, you wrote:
>>                >Well....God Bless America!
>>
>>                Yes...where it's needed most, right?
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------
>>                Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
>>                t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e:
>>josephwu@ultranet.ca
>>                w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:08:40 -0500
Subject: Origami Birthday

Hi All:

It's my First Origami Birthday!

Can't believe it's been a year since I folded my first crane
and joined this wonderful list.

I want to thank you all for your help with my silly
questions and putting up with my goofy emails (remember the
50 Ways lyrics and the flapping bird riddle, too funny).

Origami has become a big part of my life, I so enjoy it and
the great people on this list. Thanks again for making this
the best year ever!

Looking forward to the next!

Kathy  <*))))><





From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:30:34 +0800
Subject: [NO] origami kids

As a mum, I can't resist

How about               ori-bull
                        min-ori-ty
or for babies   ori-ginal
(and map folders  ori-entates)
as for older folders, how about         hon-ori-fic

Sorry - by the way, can you put fish in origami tanks - may be if they are
wet folded...........
Where are those origami psychiatrists when you really need them





From: DonnaJowal@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:18:02 -0400 (
Subject: Re: [NO] Re: from N.J. convention packet

Not scary, just boring.





From: Michael Janssen-Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:18:33 +1000
Subject: Re: VIOLINS   AND TANKS ?

On Tue, 11 May 1999, Imtiaz Razvi wrote:

> ps. anyone know of the existence of diagrams for an origami tank?

I have never seen this book, but the word "tank" caught my eye. Maybe
someone else could provide more of a description:

Author: Yamaguchi Makoto
Title (English): Flowers with Origami
ISBN/Item No.: 4916096339
Publisher: Sojusha
Pub. Date: 1/1/1997
Binding: Paperback
Pages: 120
Language: Japanese
Regular Price: $42.15

Don't let the title fool you. The description of the book included
"...everything from Chinese dragons and tigers to tanks and jeeps"

Regards,

Michael





From: Doug and Anna Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:02:45 -0700
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!

>Hello Asghar,
>
>that is funny, we've got the same special liking for Origami and Star -
>Trek.
>I have been searching web pages for models and diagrams, but only found
>xwing fighters and klingon ships yet.
>Did you, or will you publish your models/diagrams somewhere in books or on
>web sites?
>You would make a lot of trekkies happy!
>
>cu
>Evi

I would really like to see those diagrams, or photos of the finished works
as well.  Any more folders who are also fans?

Anna

Anna Weathers, Portland, Oregon, USA
"The future is my country."





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:18:54 -0700
Subject: Re: [NO]

At 13:27 99/05/13 -0500, you wrote:
>> Is that the pot calling the kettle black?
>
>Why do people say that?
>pots and kettles are no longer made of black iron

Two possible reasons:
1. Tradition is a powerful force.
2. Perhaps the black refers to the soot that built up on cookware used over
an open fire. Also an archaic reason, of course.

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From: Andrew Daw <andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:53:55 +0100
Subject: Re: paper and questions (Lionfish)

I had a go at the Lionfish over the Christmas holidays.
That was a difficult sink.  In the end I unbent a paper clip and went
fishing around inside (from the mouth end) to separate the paper in the
three tail fins enough to push the paper in.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Origami Mailing List [mailto:Origami@MIT.Edu]On Behalf Of david
> whitbeck
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 6:31 PM
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: paper and questions
>
>
<SNIP>
> (from the Complete Book of Origami) without using tweesers?  And while I'm
> at, I could never do the sink on the fins on Lang's lionfish (from Origami
> Sealife) any suggestions would be helpful.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> David





From: andalar <andalar@AIMNET.COM>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:13:41 -0800
Subject: Re: [NO]

Ted,

That's what filters are for.  A "good" list will provide ways for people to
filter out the subtopics they aren't interested in.  [NO] means no origami.
You could set up a filter that just trashes emails with "[NO]" in the
subject line.

Even if you are upset enough from this list that you do remove yourself, I
hope you'll remember that this is standard practice for most (all?) lists.

Also, what is standard is that people subscribe and unsubscribe through a
procedure that doesn't involve sending emails to everyone on the list.
I've lost my directions about how to unsubscribe but I recommend you hunt
through Joseph Wu's page which has a link to the directions about how to do
this.

This is net etiquette and it will serve you well throughout your life on
the net.  It is just as upsetting to everyone else on the list to receive
emails like yours when there are systems in place to handle your
unsubscription and frustration, and these systems are described in an email
sent to everyone upon subscribing.

Laura

>I want to be removed from this list!
>I have seen enough of this [NO] email.
>I do not have time to sort through all this junk email on this list!
>
>Damn!
>
>there is a time and a place!
>
>-Ted
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 2:31 PM
>Subject: Re: [NO]
>
>
>>> Is that the pot calling the kettle black?
>>
>>Why do people say that?
>>pots and kettles are no longer made of black iron
>>--
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Marcus Hanson's Digital Gallery
>>http://members.tripod.com/~MarcH_3/index.html
>>last updated 5-9-99
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>"If you have but one wish, let it be for an idea."
>>                                - Percy Sutton -





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:54:08 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Birthday

At 08:08 AM 5/13/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi All:
>
>It's my First Origami Birthday!
>
>Can't believe it's been a year since I folded my first crane
>and joined this wonderful list.
>
>I want to thank you all for your help with my silly
>questions and putting up with my goofy emails (remember the
>50 Ways lyrics and the flapping bird riddle, too funny).
>
>Origami has become a big part of my life, I so enjoy it and
>the great people on this list. Thanks again for making this
>the best year ever!
>
>Looking forward to the next!
>
>Kathy  <*))))><
>
>
Happy First Origami Birthday Kathy!
Hope you have many, many more.

>From your ORIGAMI friend,
Ria      ^   ^





From: Saliers <msaliers@HOME.COM>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:55:29 -0700
Subject: Instructions for Star made from strip

Hello folks,

I received the following missive.  Can anyone help this person?

Thanks,
Mark

----- snip --------------------------------------------------

From: "Victor" <YEEYI@prodigy.net>

Hello,
I've bought a few books, and started folding a while back. All in all, i've
been searching for a star.
I can't seem to find it, or the name of it.
Please help me ! I really like that star.

This is what I know about the star:
This star is made from a long narrow strip of paper.
After folded, you can push in on the sides of the start to make the
appearance of puffiness.
These stars are usually small.

Thank you for your time!





From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:27:00 -0500
Subject: Re: [NO]

> Is that the pot calling the kettle black?

Why do people say that?
pots and kettles are no longer made of black iron
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Marcus Hanson's Digital Gallery
http://members.tripod.com/~MarcH_3/index.html
last updated 5-9-99
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
"If you have but one wish, let it be for an idea."
                                - Percy Sutton -





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:55:54 -0600
Subject: Re: [NO] Oops, now it is

Marcus Hanson wrote:
>
> > Is that the pot calling the kettle black?
>
> Why do people say that?
> pots and kettles are no longer made of black iron

It purticularly doesn't make sense on an origami list, since we all fold
our kettles from blue elephant hide.

I thought pot was green...

> Marcus Hanson's Digital Gallery
> http://members.tripod.com/~MarcH_3/index.html

Ever though of expressing any of this stuff in origami?  How about this
for an origami challenge: something that comments on the Human
Condition.  Anything out there?

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:02:22 -0700
Subject: Re: Instructions for Star (Swedish Star)

At 16:54 99/05/13 -0400, you wrote:
>A Swedish Star is made from four strips of paper that are woven together.  It
>is also known as a German Star.  See :
>
>http://www.thehistorynet.com/EarlyAmericanHomes/articles/12962_stars.htm
>
>
>The stars made from one strip of paper are usually referred to as "Puffy
>Stars"

That's right. But for the Chinese, especially those from Hong Kong, it's
called a "lucky star".

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From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:16:47 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Birthday

Congratulations, Kathy, on the "Paper Anniversary" of your First Origami
Birthday!  ;-)))

Dorothy





From: Leeh McArthur <Lamms@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:21:55 -0400 (
Subject: Re: hello origami people!!!--Star Trek

In a message dated 99-05-13 14:17:21 EDT, you write:

<< >You would make a lot of trekkies happy!
 >
 >cu
 >Evi

 I would really like to see those diagrams, or photos of the finished works
 as well.  Any more folders who are also fans?

 Anna
  >>
Count me in!!

Leeh
Seattle





From: Ted Brown <tbrown@DIRECTI.NET>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:51:12 -0400
Subject: Re: [NO]

I want to be removed from this list!
I have seen enough of this [NO] email.
I do not have time to sort through all this junk email on this list!

Damn!

there is a time and a place!

-Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [NO]

>> Is that the pot calling the kettle black?
>
>Why do people say that?
>pots and kettles are no longer made of black iron
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From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:14:32 -0400
Subject: Re: [NO] Content-Free Messages

<off topic> There *has* been a lot of content-free postings of
late, but posting to complain about how content free the list
has become or about how stupid the postings are only makes
the problem worse.

If you think it's dumb, delete it. If you can't ignore it, reply
privately. Eventually the off-topic discussion will die down
and origami will come to the forefront again. </off topic>

<on topic> I taught an origami workshop for the design
department at work last week. I kept it simple: business
card jumping frogs, a box from a rectangle, a simple heart.
Then I taught the crane for those who wanted extra challenge.
We all had a great time, & I'm still getting compliments
from people as I walk down the hall.

Now I'm wondering if I should offer to teach a several
week Algebra 1 class so they won't be so intimidated
by the content of the pages they're designing.

Lisa (leaving a tag unclosed)
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <102354.2222@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:18:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Jerry Harris's "Tyrannosaurus"

Message text written by Origami List
>1. I also have a trouble in printing page 4 with Acrobat Reader 3.0J.
But I could print with Ghostscript 5.50.<

        Someone else had this problem, and it turned out that when they re-
downloaded Acrobat (possibly a newer version?), the problem disappeared.  I
have no explanation for that phenomenon, though...

>2. The formation of spurs is new for me.
I found it interesting.<

        Not spurs, exactly, but the first toe.  In most theropod dinosaurs,
the first toe is reduced in size and doesn't contact the ground -- it just
sort of dangles there to one side of the ankle.  It probably had some
function, but no one knows quite what.  Spurs, such as are seen in some
birds, are _not_ the first toe, but a separate evolutionary adaptation.

>3. Since I use 35cm kami, my tyrannosaurus looks thin and starving.
I think wet-folding will work well.<

        That's been my impression; another person has told me that tissue
foil works very well, too!

        Thanks for your comments!

 _,_
 ____/_\,) .. _
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 /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 899-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2866
 102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: Ted Brown <tbrown@DIRECTI.NET>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:28:36 -0400
Subject: Re: [NO] Content-Free Messages

No dont get me wrong!
I want to stay on the list, I'm just frustrated with all the NO messages.
14 in 3 days not including mine.
I was using my message as a tool to announce to the WHOLE group, I was sick
of it.
Opposed to just removing myself..

Hoping my message will fix the problem!

Thank you..

-Ted
p.s. now flame me for sending my message in HTML format!

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [NO] Content-Free Messages

><off topic> There *has* been a lot of content-free postings of
>late, but posting to complain about how content free the list
>has become or about how stupid the postings are only makes
>the problem worse.
>
>If you think it's dumb, delete it. If you can't ignore it, reply
>privately. Eventually the off-topic discussion will die down
>and origami will come to the forefront again. </off topic>
>
><on topic> I taught an origami workshop for the design
>department at work last week. I kept it simple: business
>card jumping frogs, a box from a rectangle, a simple heart.
>Then I taught the crane for those who wanted extra challenge.
>We all had a great time, & I'm still getting compliments
>from people as I walk down the hall.
>
>Now I'm wondering if I should offer to teach a several
>week Algebra 1 class so they won't be so intimidated
>by the content of the pages they're designing.
>
>Lisa (leaving a tag unclosed)
>Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: Rosalinda Sanchez <RRosalinda@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:06:04 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Instructions for Star made from strip

Try:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/8012/creation/star.html

or:

<A
HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/8012/creation/star.html">star.html
 at www.geocities.com
</A>

This is Meenakshi's page and since you're there you might as well look around
at all of her beautiful modular folds as well.

Rosa
