




From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:48:23 -0700
Subject: Re: Nun

Carol -

I know that I have at least 2 nuns but it will take me a day or two to find
them.  Please post your email address.

: - )

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
madawson@sprynet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Carole Young <youngcj@IX.NETCOM.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 7:21 PM
Subject: Nun

>I had, but lent out a diagram I loved to make for some friends.  It was
>a nun.  It reminded me of the "flying nun" but was not cartoon-like.  I
>once made it for a Japanese-American friend who said "Oh! how
>untraditional!".  Anyway, does anyone know the source for a or the nun?
>
>Carole
>Raleigh





From: Michael and Janet Hamilton <mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:08:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Hello from Spain

Someone on the list a while ago mentioned :

Liberia Aranda
c/ General Yage n11
28020 Madrid (Spain)
Book store that carries many origami books.

I'm not sure if the shop is still around.

mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Pedro Luis Lozano
  To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
  Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 2:32 AM
  Subject: Hello from Spain

      Hello everybody. I'm new at the list. I start to fold a few weeks ago and
     want to know a
  little more about origami. I don't speak english good but I will try to
     expose my questions
  here.

      - Anybody in the list from spain?
      - Where can I buy books on origami here in Spain?
      - What are the best books on origami?

  Thanks for the answers.





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:23:06 +0200
Subject: Kalmon announce name change

Ta - dah

Finally I succeded
with a little help from a friend
to get rid of the terrible name Thorkild Sndergrd
with those weird Danish vocals (Danish isn't that someting you eat?)
that the poor old buffer has been dragging around since his childhood
It is no longer "correct" (gigle) to show this name here on the internet
from today it is Thoki Yenn and the e-mail is thok@thok.dk
and the website is www.thok.dk

Kind regards  from the Great and Glorious

Kalmon

and soon I will have my own e-mail adr..





From: MacTeabird@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 05:06:21 -0400 (
Subject: ???

How do U make a crane?
Are there any Macintosh programs on origami???
T-bird





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:25:10 +0200
Subject: Sv Origami  & A4 and silver rectangle

Dear Bamblue

Thank you for the good words about my Origami

The A-format system is the European Standard Letter paper.

The dimensions of the A4 is 21 cm x 29.7 cm
The proportion is 1: Sqr 2 for all A sizes
half of A4 is called A5 and has the same proportions
and so on up and down the sizes that is the beauty of the A Format

On my Geometry Cloud you can find how to
change a Square into a Silver Rectangle
which is the Origami term for all sizes with the proportions of 1:sqr2
without regard to the dimensions.
Like the square is a square without regard to the size.

There is also shown how to change a
silver rectangle into a golden rectangle.

John Cunliffe of ELFA fame has made a Booklet
with the Title: The Silver Rectangle
to can get it from Supplies at BOS (British Origami.Society)
You can find a link to BOS on my Origami Cloud

Ta-dah
www.thok.dk
Kalmon the Great and Glorious





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:49:33 +0100
Subject: trousers & shirt

Whoever it was requesting diagrams for the shirt & trousers, I sent
diagrams to you but they were bounced back - please try again.

Others, please note the York convention pack is now available from BOS
supplies, as is the wonderful Mette Units 3.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos





From: Larry Finch <LarryFinch@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:15:35 -0400 (
Subject: Re: ???

In a message dated 4/28/1999 5:07:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
MacTeabird@AOL.COM writes:

> How do U make a crane?
>  Are there any Macintosh programs on origami???
>  T-bird
>

Here is an excellent page for the traditional crane:

http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/studio/orizuru/index.html

Larry





From: good man <jess2800@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:16:37 -0400
Subject: Nun

Hi Carole:
 There are two models of Nuns that I particularly like. One is called
"Nun in the wind" by Gabriel Alvarez-Casanovas.

The other is a truly charming model made from a circle that is quite
easy.

I'm sorry that I can't tell where you can find these but perhaps
somebody else on the list will have that information. I haven't done
either of these models in a long time and would like to so I hope they
do.

                                   J.





From: Javier =?iso-8859-1?Q?Guti=E9rrez?= <jgutierr@MANWE.MAT.UAB.ES>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:45:28 +0200
Subject: Origami books in Barcelona

 Hi everybody!

        I'd like to buy some origami books in Barcelona.

        Does anybody know any Bookstores here where I could buy some good
     origami
books??

Thanks in advance.





From: Spider Barbour <spider@ULSTER.NET>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:20:10 -0500
Subject: Re: nuns

-- [ From: Spider Barbour * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Hello!  Carole Young of Raleigh asked about nun models.  There are "Monjas"
(nuns) in the books by the Grupo Zaragozano.  The nun folded from a circle
is in Gray & Kasahara's "Magic of Origami."  Kasahara also has a very good
nun in "Creative Origami."
                        Yours,   Anita Barbour





From: Jean-Jerome CASALONGA <jj-casalonga@MAGIC.FR>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:22:07 +0200
Subject: Buying books on Internet (was : Origami books in Barcelona)

      It is possible to buy Origami books on Internet.  This allow you to
get books that are sometimes difficult to find when you don't live in the
USA.

    You can for example try www.amazon.com and ask for "Origami".  They have
almost ALL the currently available origami books.

    There is also the ORIGAMI-USA site : www.origami-usa.com

    And Fascinating Folds : http://www.fascinating-folds.com

    And BOL (in France, England, Netherland, Germany) : www.bol.com

                    I hope this will help.

    Sincerely,

                                JJ Caaaaaaaaaaasalongaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa





From: Bill Clarke <llib@COMPUTER.ORG>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:24:45 +1000
Subject: Re: TreeMaker on a MacEmulator for PC or Linux or NeXT..or whatever...

g'day all,

two weeks ago I wrote:
[...running TreeMaker 3.6 using the MAE macintosh emulator...]
> MAE claims to emulate: Motorola 68LC040 CPU and Macintosh System 7.5.3
> and 32-bit color QuickDraw and up to 24-bit color, if supported by the X
> server.
[...]
> hopefully i can test TreeMaker 4 with MAE soon.[...]

thanks to rjl i have received and tested TreeMaker 4.1 using MAE.  it
seems to work fine.  i guess since MAE is an Apple supported product
you'd expect it to work(!).  i hope you other emulator users get it to
work, since it's a hoopy program.

[ note that MAE has been discontinued as of almost a year ago:
http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n22203 ]

cheers,
/lib
--
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From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:01:07 +0800
Subject: 1000 Cranes

One of my earliest memories of growing up in Japan was the rainbow bundles
of cranes hanging form the rear-vision mirror of most busses.  These, I
believe, were made by the conductresses (who wore blue suits and had
whistles to help back the bus).  Cranes were(and are still) symbols of luck
and long life in Japan.  They were/are a positive symbol, used frequently at
weddings, together with turtles, both animals which live long lives, and, at
least for cranes, are 'monogamous' - much like swans are used in the West.

I therefore have mixed feelings when I see the frequent request for cranes
for dying and dead people.  Please don't get me wrong - I feel as horrified
and stunned as anyone at the dreadful things happening around the world,
particularly on the third anniversary of the Port Authur massacre.  However
I also want the beautiful, positive side  - the traditional side, if you
will - of folding 1,000 cranes to prevail.  Many will say you are folding a
symbol of hope, but now so many seem to only associate this 'sublime' model
with death and dying!

Also, for the purists, the models were always folded out of small sheets 7.5
cm paper (available in packs of 1,000 sheets sold specially for the purpose)
and hung is 10 or so strings forming a single bundle, and were always, as I
recall, arranged in graduated colourings (eg all red at top, then orange,
yellow etc).





From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:18:48 -0700 (
Subject: Re: Update on John's recovery

I hope that he will get well soon! Best Wishes

>From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Update on John's recovery
>Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:50:41 -0700
>
>My best wishes to all of my friends on the list who contributed to
>the collection of cranes for my husband who's been undergoing cancer
>treatments.  We are optimistic that the most recent round of
treatment
>will have positive results in a month or two.  Presently, John is
able
>to work and lead a fairly normal life with medications.
>
>Ria   ^   ^
>     ( * * )
>      -----

_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com





From: Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:30:07 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami books in Barcelona

I'd recommend this website for international book shopping:

http://www.acses.com

It searches through all of the major, online bookstores worldwide, lets you
pick the currency displayed, and gives you a shipping quote and estimated
delivery time.

ciao.

pat slider.
slider@stonecutter.com





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:36:22 -0400
Subject: Re: 1000 Cranes

Clare Chamberlain wrote:
>Cranes were(and are still) symbols of luck
>and long life in Japan.  They were/are a positive symbol. . .
<snip>
>. . . I therefore have mixed feelings when I see the frequent
>request for cranes for dying and dead people.

Clare--Do you know the story of Sadako? Because of that
story, I think many people (at least here in the states)
understand cranes to be symbolic of healing and peace.

Somewhere along the line I got the impression that "if
you fold a thousand cranes your wish will be granted."
Whether that wish is for healing, peace, longevity, or
something else shouldn't matter. When people see me
folding cranes in public, I often have someone say to me
"Oh. Peace cranes---I folded those for <something or other>.

I fold cranes for weddings more often than I fold them for
healing, and I share a minor discomfort that they seem
appropriate for both of these seemingly opposite situations.
The gift of 1000 cranes is obviously a labor of love---they
are not given lightly no matter what the situation, so I don't
think that the gift of hope for healing in any way diminishes
the wedding gift of hope for longevity and happiness.

In the case of Littleton (or any gift of cranes for the dead)
the gift is really for the survivors and is symbolic of
hope for healing and peace. It is certainly appropriate.

On a different note: 7.5 cm paper? That big? I guess I
like my cranes untraditionally small---around 3.5 cm.
I can't imagine dealing with 1000 out of 6 inch squares.

Lisa (with around 370 left to go for the current 1000)
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: MacTeabird@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:51:42 -0400 (
Subject: Re: ???

In a message dated 4/28/99 6:18:00 AM, LarryFinch@AOL.COM writes:

>Here is an excellent page for the traditional crane:
>
>http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/studio/orizuru/index.html

Hey Larry,
That address is the bomb, THANKS!!!!!
T-bird





From: Mette Pederson <mette.pederson@TRIFOLIUM.COM>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:24:09 -0400
Subject: Re: trousers & shirt

Cool!  I haven't seen this email yet.

I did email Nick last week to ask him to add me to the BOS link page.  But,
he got the book wrong.  They only have copies of my book 2!  I'll have to
email him straight away.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Robinson [mailto:nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK]
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 3:50 AM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: trousers & shirt

Whoever it was requesting diagrams for the shirt & trousers, I sent
diagrams to you but they were bounced back - please try again.

Others, please note the York convention pack is now available from BOS
supplies, as is the wonderful Mette Units 3.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda
syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos





From: Mette Pederson <mette.pederson@TRIFOLIUM.COM>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:27:58 -0400
Subject: Re: trousers & shirt

Sorry everyone, I've made that terrible mistake of Replying to the wrong
place.

Mette Pederson
http://mette.pederson.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Mette Pederson [mailto:mette.pederson@TRIFOLIUM.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 5:24 PM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: trousers & shirt

Cool!  I haven't seen this email yet.

I did email Nick last week to ask him to add me to the BOS link page.  But,
he got the book wrong.  They only have copies of my book 2!  I'll have to
email him straight away.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Robinson [mailto:nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK]
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 3:50 AM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: trousers & shirt

Whoever it was requesting diagrams for the shirt & trousers, I sent
diagrams to you but they were bounced back - please try again.

Others, please note the York convention pack is now available from BOS
supplies, as is the wonderful Mette Units 3.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda
syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:01:09 +0200
Subject: Re: Buying books on Internet (was : Origami books in Barcelona)

Jean-Jerome CASALONGA schrieb:
>
>       It is possible to buy Origami books on Internet.  This allow you to
> get books that are sometimes difficult to find when you don't live in the
> USA.

Actually, I think it's much nicer if you support your local book store
and order your books there.
Shipping a book usually eats up all the "discounts" you get at an online
bookstore such as amazon.com, unless you live in the country. And it
takes just as long as it takes the book store to order the book. Some
bookstores even deliver home, without charged.

Matthias





From: Michael Belehradek <mbelehradek@CNC.SK>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 06:18:01 -0400
Subject: folding angle

Hello

I recently tried to fold pentagonal star box by hacking Fuse's hexagonal star
     box.
In hexagonal box the angle you have to fold is 60 degrees and it is easy.
But when you want to fold pentagonal box you have to chane angle to 54 degrees.
Do you know please any method to fold 54 degrees angle from 90 degrees?
I had to guess it.... Anyway it worked but I'd like to know exact solution
Thank you very much

                                                Michael





From: Michael Belehradek <mbelehradek@CNC.SK>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 06:18:05 -0400
Subject: chessboard

Hello

I recenly tried to fold Marc Kirshenbaum chessboard from his homepage but I am
totally stopped by step 47. I tried it for 1 hour then I gave up and tear whole
     model...
Can anyone help me?

Marc. It is great model anyway :-)) Can you also publish on your www page the
     modular
chessboard? Pic of this chessboard id on Dr Stephen O'Hanlon's site.

I also tried fold Biplane (I like it) but I coudn't do double crimp at step 37
     .... :-(((


     Michael Belehradek

Did someone try the horse by Yoshino Issei? Is there some pics of this horse
folded by someone else but Yoshino?





From: Michael Belehradek <mbelehradek@CNC.SK>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 06:18:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami Books in Canada

At 00:03 13.1.1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I was just at my local "Chapters Book Store" here in Edmonton, Alberta Canada
     and was so pleased to see such
>an array of  origami books.  Here is a partial list of what I found
>
>        Origami Omnibus K. Kasahara
>        Simple Traditional Origami - Tomoko Fuse
>        Fabulous Origami Boxes  Tomoko Fuse
>        Secrets of Origami - Robert Harbin
>        Step by Step Origami - Robert Harbin (new Dover edition)
>        Russian Origami - S. Afonkin and Tom Hull
>        Origami in Action - R. Lang
>        Modern Origami - James Sakoda
>        Easy Origami  - K. Kobayashi and C. Sunayama
>        Quick and Eas;y Origami Boxes - Tomoko Fuse
>
>This was at the Strathcona location.  Usually the Calgary Trail store has most
     of John Montrolls books in
>stock as well.
>
>So if you are shopping and looking for Origami books keep your eyes open at
     your local Chapter's book store
>
>Happy Shopping and Folding
>Lynda

In USA  and Canada is situation very good in selling Origami books. Worse it is
     in Europe. I dont know about any
bookstore around my teritory (Bratislava Slovakia) which has Origami books on
     store. If anyone knows about such
bookstore in Wien please let me know.
>From online Internet shopping stores the lowest prices has www.shopping.com.
     But I haven't order any books from there yet.
Do you have experiences with ordering from this shop?

If anyone knows the shop with lower prices than www.shopping.com please let us
     know. :-))


     Mike





From: Michael Belehradek <mbelehradek@CNC.SK>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 06:18:09 -0400
Subject: Re: chessboard

At 00:10 28.1.1999 -0500, you wrote:
>I really do have trouble relating to people who tear models up. I usually
>give my "failed" attempts away, or simply rename them.

Anyway it was just first attempt ... I'll try it later ... :-)))

>Anyway, I looked it up, and step 47 is quite involved, but really cool once
>you get the hang of it. Helpfull hints include that the lower white square
>is the one that remains on the surface in the next diagram. The crease
>pattern on that corner to be raised is like a preliminary base, but the
>side has to be closed sunk simultaneously to allow everything to flatten.
>Very weird stuff, but it does work. Fortunatly you get to do it three other
>ytimes for extra practise.

Thank you for advice

>>
>>Marc. It is great model anyway :-)) Can you also publish on your www page
>>the modular
>>chessboard? Pic of this chessboard id on Dr Stephen O'Hanlon's site.
>
>Where is his site? I would like to see it.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/4800/chess.JPG

>As for my site (http://marckrsh.home.pipeline.com), it is down untill the
>end of this month, as too many files were downloaded. I just got more
>space, so this problem should be alleviated. Then again, I just dug up a
>half-dozen models I will likely put up on there (some old favorites from a
>decade ago), so I will have to keep an eye on that bandwidth meter.
>
What about to register free site at geocities or wwwhypermart.net?
Hypermart has a lot of space, possibility to use cgi with perl and quite good
bandwith and is tottaly free ...


     Mike





From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:17:13 +0800
Subject: 1000 Cranes

Lisa and origami friends

I wrote about the (mis)use of 1,000 cranes as I am frequently asked about
Japanese etiquette and culture, having been brought up in Japan.  Of course
I know about Sadako - a beautiful story - but I also know about the
Hiroshima local government who have terrible problems receiving, displaying
and subsequently disposing of millions of paper cranes.

As to the paper size, packets of 1,000 sheets of both 7.5 and 3.2 cm
(roughly) are widely available in Japan for making cranes.  The prefectural
(state) symbol of Hyogo (capital Kobe) is the crane.

I am not saying it's wrong to remember and inspire victims of disease and
tragedy, however, maybe time could be better spent by teaching others the
joy and calm from origami, or dare I say it, campaigning for better gun
control.

On a lighter note, any lurkers from Perth (Western Australia) who are
interested in helping us develop Perth Origami People (POP), please e-mail
me.  Things are stirring in the wild west!





From: Doug and Anna Weathers <dougw@RDROP.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:31:39 -0700
Subject: Nun, angelfish, boutoniere

There is a nun in Kasahara's Creative Origami and his Origami Made Easy.
They are a little different -- the one in Creative Origami looks more
realistic to me.

There is an angelfish in Randlett's Art of Origami.

There is a two piece buttonhole pattern in the Biddle's Essential Origami.

Anna Weathers, Portland, Oregon, USA
"The future is my country."





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:17:59 -0700
Subject: Pentagonal star box (was Re: folding angle)

At 06:18 99/04/29 -0400, you wrote:
>I recently tried to fold pentagonal star box by hacking Fuse's hexagonal
>star box.
>In hexagonal box the angle you have to fold is 60 degrees and it is easy.
>But when you want to fold pentagonal box you have to chane angle to 54
degrees.
>Do you know please any method to fold 54 degrees angle from 90 degrees?
>I had to guess it.... Anyway it worked but I'd like to know exact solution
>Thank you very much

Winson Chan developed such a pentagonal star box before Fuse's hexagonal one
was published. Unfortunately, his diagrams for this particular model are not
yet finished.

----------------------------------------------------------------
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t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:52:10 -0700
Subject: Re: Pentagonal star box

At 12:51 99/04/29 -0500, you wrote:
>Just curious: does this discussion refer to a pentagonal box (5-sided) or
>actually to a star-shaped box, which would have ten sides? Where is
>Fuse's hexagonal star box published, if, in fact, it is a 12-sided model?
>
>There are pentagonal boxes by Fuse in the 4th Tanteidan convention book
>and in her Origami Gift Boxes, but I haven't seen any actual stars.
>
>Thanks for any information.

You're right, of course. Sloppy on my part. We are talking about star-shaped
boxes (10-sided and 12-sided, respectively).

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:51:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Pentagonal star box

Just curious: does this discussion refer to a pentagonal box (5-sided) or
actually to a star-shaped box, which would have ten sides? Where is
Fuse's hexagonal star box published, if, in fact, it is a 12-sided model?

There are pentagonal boxes by Fuse in the 4th Tanteidan convention book
and in her Origami Gift Boxes, but I haven't seen any actual stars.

Thanks for any information.

Jane





From: Michael LaFosse <info@ORIGAMIDO.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:31:57 -0400
Subject: Boston, MA, USA area help.

>

Hello folks,

A woman in Charlestown, Massachusetts, needs help with the folding of some
simple origami napkin rings and swans (about 40) for a party she is throwing.
She already has the diagrams for what she wants and she needs the help this
weekend (her party is Wednesday, the 4th of May).  She is willing to pay $20
per hour.  If you are interested you can reply to me michael@origamido.com and
I will put you in touch with her.

Thanks in advance.

Michael G. LaFosse
Origamido Studio
michael@origamido.com





From: Larry Finch <LarryFinch@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:12:05 -0400 (
Subject: Origami sighting on Nova

This week there was a rerun of the Nova about David Wile and his proof of
Fermat's Last Theorem. One of the people interviewed was the mathematician
John Conway; hanging behind his desk was a mobile of various modular origami
forms (most looked like Tomoko Fuse's designs).

I'd like to see a Nova about Conway himself; he's the inventor of the Game of
Life that has livened up the Sun workstation screen saver, as well as many
other idle computers.

Larry





From: David Dureisseix <David.Dureisseix@LMT.ENS-CACHAN.FR>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:59:55 +0200
Subject: Re: folding angle

Hi Michael,

> But when you want to fold pentagonal box you have to chane angle to 54
     degrees.
> Do you know please any method to fold 54 degrees angle from 90 degrees?
> I had to guess it.... Anyway it worked but I'd like to know exact solution

  54 degress ? Seems that you need 360/5=72 degrees rather...
Anyway, some times ago I worked on folding polygons within a square
(in fact, what  called  optimal polygons, i.e. the largest possible
in the initial square, folded with a mathematically exact method)
I wrote a little thing on pentagon. So I had to fold exactly the 72
degree angle. I am afraid that this paper is in french, but the
folding diagrams are quite international... If you are interested
I can send you the 2 page paper, or just the diagram. They are both
in postscript, is it ok for you (if not, I can generate a pdf file
also) ?
  I just a little problem with your mail: mbelehradek@CNC.SK generates
an error: gatekeeper.cnc.sk seems unable to relay cause the user is
unknown.
  If you are more interested by general papers I wrote on optimal
polygons, you can download them at
ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/articles/polye2ps.zip
thanks to Maarten van Gelder.
Beware that the uncompressed file
ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/articles/polye2.ps
is about 1 Mb
  A more specialize paper on pentagon is
ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/articles/polyeps.zip

  Yours,

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From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:12:58 -0700
Subject: Re: Boston, MA, USA area help.

At 02:31 PM 4/29/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>
>Hello folks,
>
>A woman in Charlestown, Massachusetts, needs help with the folding of some
>simple origami napkin rings and swans (about 40) for a party she is throwing.
>She already has the diagrams for what she wants and she needs the help this
>weekend (her party is Wednesday, the 4th of May).  She is willing to pay $20
>per hour.  If you are interested you can reply to me michael@origamido.com and
>I will put you in touch with her.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Michael G. LaFosse
>Origamido Studio
>michael@origamido.com
>
>
Hello Michael,

I'd be interested in working for this person, if nobody around Boston is
found to
do it.  I live in the Hartford Area and I'd work on the weekend to finish
the pro
ject in time to send it off for her party on Wednesday.

Ria Sutter

ps My origami club would like to visit your studio and so I'd like to get
info on
your scheduled hours for group visits.  From six to twelve people want to go.
Thanks.





From: Allen Parry <parry@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:19:16 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami sighting on Nova

On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Larry Finch wrote:

> This week there was a rerun of the Nova about David Wile and his proof of
> Fermat's Last Theorem. One of the people interviewed was the mathematician
> John Conway; hanging behind his desk was a mobile of various modular origami
> forms (most looked like Tomoko Fuse's designs).

I know Chris Palmer has been working with John Conway in giving
mathematical definitions to his tessellations.  They also wrote a paper
together (I believe).  The latest Scientic American has an article on John
Conway....its pretty interesting.

Allen Parry
parry@eskimo.com





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@MAIL.PB.NET>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:28:20 +0000
Subject: Re: 1000 Cranes for Littleton

Dorothy Engelman put out the first request for 1,000 cranes for when the
students at Littleton, Colorado high school return to their building (In
September?). If you'd like to contribute, 6 inch paper in  blue (prints or
solids) or silver would be appreciated.

Dee Lynch who is affiliate group news editor for the OUSA "Paper." lives in
Littleton and would be willing to coordinate this effort. She requests that you
identify from where you're sending the cranes. If you can, why not write
it on the wing of the bird? Her address is:

                Dee Lynch
                135 E. Easter Avenue
                Littleton, CO 80122

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Barbra0336@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:29:02 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Origami books in Barcelona

In regards to finding books in Barcelona, how about paper?  Is there an
origami group in Barcelona?
I'll be there the first part of June.
Barbara





From: Carole Young <youngcj@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:36:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Nun, angelfish, boutoniere

Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Creative Origami was the source of the nun I was seeking.  Now I can
make it again for a new friend.

Regards,

Carole

You wrote:
>
>There is a nun in Kasahara's Creative Origami and his Origami Made
Easy.
>They are a little different -- the one in Creative Origami looks more
>realistic to me.
>
>There is an angelfish in Randlett's Art of Origami.
>
>There is a two piece buttonhole pattern in the Biddle's Essential
Origami.
>
>
>Anna Weathers, Portland, Oregon, USA
>"The future is my country."





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:47:56 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Aleenes Creative Living

Anybody wants to see me do the money rose.....TNN, tomorrow, Friday,  April
30, Aleenes Creative Living Show......Hope they don't postpone it again.  At
least those of you who don't know me can see what I look like.  You need  to
look up the time. Dorigami





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 03:43:08 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Origami Groups in Barcelona?

Barbara (Barbara0336@AOL.com) asked earlier today whether there were any
paperfolding groups in Barcelona. (I think it is more appropriate to call it
"paperfolding" rather than "Origami" in a Spanish context. The Spanish use
the word "papiroflexia".)

I'm sure there must be a group of folders in Barcelona, but  I regret that I
don't have any details.

However, Barcelona is the home of Sr. Vicente Palacios, former president of
the Asociacion Espanola de Papiroflexia and for several years the editor of
their magazine.

He is also the author of many books on paperolding in Spanish. Several have
been published in English editions. Vicente is also a prolific creator of
models and a very competent diagrammer. His paper whistle that actually does
whistle is one of his best-known creations. Added to that he is a serious
student of the history of paperfolding and has made many significant
discoveries in this field. Now retired, the amount of work he gets through is
prodigious.

Sr. Palacios is a frequent visitor to origami conventions, including the OUSA
convention in New York.

Sr. Palacios's address is:

Pasaje Senilosa,
9  Atico 3,
08034 Barcelona,
Spain.

So far as I know, he is not on e-mail. But why not write to him? He's very
friendly.

David Lister.

DLister891@AOL.com





From: Fran Rodriguez <fran@BCNET.UPC.ES>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:26:33 +0200
Subject: Re: Origami books in Barcelona

Barbra0336@AOL.COM wrote:
> In regards to finding books in Barcelona, how about paper?

        You can find books hardly, but find paper is impossible (at least for
     me). I've
finished ordering it from fascinantig folds.

> Is there an origami group in Barcelona?

        I don't know any.

        = Fran =





From: Michael LaFosse <info@ORIGAMIDO.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:25:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Boston, MA, USA area help.

Hello Ria,

Re: the Boston folding help:

Thanks for the offer; we have had no local response yet and time is sneaking by.

I hadn't considered that an out-of-towner might offer their services, mostly
because of the turnaround time through the mails.  I will call her today to find
out and I will e-mail you as soon as I know.

Re: your visit.

It would be great to see you and your group!  The Origamido Studio is open
     whenever
I am in town and I entertain appointments morning, noon, & night; seven days a
week; as long as I have an opening in my calendar.  At this time, the months of
June and July are pretty well open so you can take your pick of days.  Let me
     know
as soon a possible so that I can hold the date(s) for you.  I do anticipate a
     few
June bookings to start coming in soon.

The studio is in a wonderful location of downtown Haverhill.  There are many
antiques shops and some nice restaurants nearby.  The train station into Boston
     is
just a block away!  We are lucky to have such good access and in an area that
     is on
its way up: Haverhill is quickly becoming a day-trip attraction for the North
Shore.

Re: School programs from Origamido.

Congratulations on your clubs support of origami in the schools!  I have seen
     many
positive results from such programs: teachers and students find the approach
refreshing; there seems to be more "total brain" activity when origami is
     employed
with a lesson; the lessons are better retained; materials are inexpensive and
     can
be sourced from recycle programs... but I am preaching to the choir.  I would
     like
to know more about what you folks have presented so far.

I regularly conduct on-site programs at schools, libraries, and museums.  My
     basic
fees are: $150 for the first classroom (50 people max. and up to 1 hour), and
     $100
for each additional classroom at the same location on the same day.  Out of
     state
minimum charge $250.  Additional expenses reimbursable are travel and
accommodations.  If I drive travel is $0.33 per mile round-trip. Basic origami
materials are included.  I customize programs to suite any subject matter and
     any
grade level, from K through graduate level.

Let me know if I can do something for you.

All the best!

Sincerely,

Michael LaFosse





From: Antonio Ropero <aropero@BPE.ES>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:26:30 +0200
Subject: Re: Origami Groups in Barcelona?

> He is also the author of many books on paperolding in Spanish. Several
have
> been published in English editions. Vicente is also a prolific creator of
> models and a very competent diagrammer. His paper whistle that actually
does
> whistle is one of his best-known creations.

Sorry.,.. but the wistle is a creation of Angel Ecija Blanco. another
prolific spanish creatir, like Anibal Voyer, Caboblanco, Fernando Gilgado,
etc...
Vicente only take the diagrams of Angel Ecija and copy it in one of his
books and show it in numerous conventions.

Grupo Editor de la Asociacion Espaqola de Papiroflexia
www.publynet.com/aep





From: Ted Brown <tbrown@DIRECTI.NET>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:24:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Boston, MA, USA area help.

Mike,

I missed this message.
Boston, Ma. area help??

what type of help?

-Ted

Salem, MA.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael LaFosse <info@ORIGAMIDO.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: Boston, MA, USA area help.

>Hello Ria,
>
>Re: the Boston folding help:
>
>Thanks for the offer; we have had no local response yet and time is
sneaking by.
>
>I hadn't considered that an out-of-towner might offer their services,
mostly
>because of the turnaround time through the mails.  I will call her today to
find
>out and I will e-mail you as soon as I know.
>
>Re: your visit.
>
>It would be great to see you and your group!  The Origamido Studio is open
whenever
>I am in town and I entertain appointments morning, noon, & night; seven
days a
>week; as long as I have an opening in my calendar.  At this time, the
months of
>June and July are pretty well open so you can take your pick of days.  Let
me know
>as soon a possible so that I can hold the date(s) for you.  I do anticipate
a few
>June bookings to start coming in soon.
>
>The studio is in a wonderful location of downtown Haverhill.  There are
many
>antiques shops and some nice restaurants nearby.  The train station into
Boston is
>just a block away!  We are lucky to have such good access and in an area
that is on
>its way up: Haverhill is quickly becoming a day-trip attraction for the
North
>Shore.
>
>Re: School programs from Origamido.
>
>Congratulations on your clubs support of origami in the schools!  I have
seen many
>positive results from such programs: teachers and students find the
approach
>refreshing; there seems to be more "total brain" activity when origami is
employed
>with a lesson; the lessons are better retained; materials are inexpensive
and can
>be sourced from recycle programs... but I am preaching to the choir.  I
would like
>to know more about what you folks have presented so far.
>
>I regularly conduct on-site programs at schools, libraries, and museums.
My basic
>fees are: $150 for the first classroom (50 people max. and up to 1 hour),
and $100
>for each additional classroom at the same location on the same day.  Out of
state
>minimum charge $250.  Additional expenses reimbursable are travel and
>accommodations.  If I drive travel is $0.33 per mile round-trip. Basic
origami
>materials are included.  I customize programs to suite any subject matter
and any
>grade level, from K through graduate level.
>
>Let me know if I can do something for you.
>
>All the best!
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Michael LaFosse





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:18:38 -0700
Subject: Aluminized plastic film

I have a sample supply of bright aluminized Polypropylene (?) film --
blue in color on a 12" wide roll.Can be folded by itself or adhered to
label paper -- or laminated to any paper of your choice. Film is .001"
thick -- that is 1/4 the thickness of standard copy paper. If your are
interested -- send me three dollars in an envelope and promise to give
me an analysis of the material for use in Origami.  I will then send you
15  -- 12" x 13" sheets -- (so you can square up to 12 x 12 sheets)  in
a folder we will make out of corrugated cardboard. The three dollars
will just about cover the shipping and I will breakeven. If this
material turns out to be useful, we plan to stock it in about twelve
colors. It will probably sell for 20 cents / square foot.

If you promise to use the material and send me back something made of it
--- I will send you the samples without your sending me the three
dollars..

--
Martin R. Carbone
1227 De La Vina St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 Fax: 805-965-2414

WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<or>>
http://www.modelshops.com <<or>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:08:56 -0700
Subject: Re: Aleenes Creative Living

At 11:47 PM 4/29/99 EDT, you wrote:
>Anybody wants to see me do the money rose.....TNN, tomorrow, Friday,  April
>30, Aleenes Creative Living Show......Hope they don't postpone it again.  At
>least those of you who don't know me can see what I look like.  You need  to
>look up the time. Dorigami
>
>
Hi Dori,
I would have liked to have seen you do the rose, but I couldn't find the show
in my local  TV listings.  I live in a suburb of Hartford, CT.
Ria





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 11:37:41 +0200
Subject: Re: Nun

Carole,

I have made an excellent nun (at least to me....), which is diagrammed in a
booklet of my own models published by the CDO. I can scan the diagrams and
send these to you as attachment, or just leave them on a server ready for
downloading if anyone else is interested.....

Roberto

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carole Young <youngcj@IX.NETCOM.COM>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 7:21 PM
>Subject: Nun
>
>
>>I had, but lent out a diagram I loved to make for some friends.  It was
>>a nun.  It reminded me of the "flying nun" but was not cartoon-like.  I
>>once made it for a Japanese-American friend who said "Oh! how
>>untraditional!".  Anyway, does anyone know the source for a or the nun?
>>
>>Carole
>>Raleigh





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 11:47:12 +0200
Subject: Re: Origami books in Barcelona

Javier (Barbara, and others),
At 11.45 28/4/1999 +0200, you wrote:

>        Does anybody know any Bookstores here where I could buy some good
origami
>books??

Contact Vicente Palacios (Pasaje Senillosa, 9 at. 3a, 08034 BARCELONA, tel.
093-2046326), and he will entertain you about Origami, Papiroflexia,
history, etc. for the rest of your life !

Saludos,

Roberto





From: Edith Kort <ekort@MCLS.ROCHESTER.LIB.NY.US>
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 12:55:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Aluminized plastic film

Martin,

I am very interested in your new product - alumnized film.  WOuld you be
willing to send us a sample for our local origami club to try?  We would
be glad to return folded models - we can try a mix of animals and
modular models.  We would be interested in a variety of colors.

--
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Edith M. Kort         716-377-6862                Before you can be
    Co-President                                          eccentric
    R O C - Rochester Origami Club                   You must know where
    28 Hidden Meadow                                    the circle is
    Penfield NY 14526-1652





From: Edith Kort <ekort@MCLS.ROCHESTER.LIB.NY.US>
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 13:25:39 -0400
Subject: Ooops, Sorry about the public post

I'm never sure if it is more annoying to get a second post apologizing
for the public post, or for the list to realize that I know I goofed and
not get an apology message.  Anyway, sorry about the mistake.
--
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Edith M. Kort

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
               Before you can be eccentric
          You must know where the circle is





From: Rosalinda Sanchez <RRosalinda@AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 14:43:39 -0400 (
Subject: Maekawa Devil Diagrams???

Are the diagrams available for the Maekawa Devils (hope I've spelled it
right), anywhere other than in Viva Origami??

Rosa





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 15:47:37 -0700
Subject: Re: Aluminized plastic film

I only have one sample color -- blue on one side -- bright silver on the
other. Can get all colors if it is well received. Will try to ship yours by
Tuesday.

Edith Kort wrote:

> Martin,
>
> I am very interested in your new product - alumnized film.  WOuld you be
> willing to send us a sample for our local origami club to try?  We would
> be glad to return folded models - we can try a mix of animals and
> modular models.  We would be interested in a variety of colors.
>
> --
>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>     Edith M. Kort         716-377-6862                Before you can be
>     Co-President                                          eccentric
>     R O C - Rochester Origami Club                   You must know where
>     28 Hidden Meadow                                    the circle is
>     Penfield NY 14526-1652
>
>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--
Martin R. Carbone
1227 De La Vina St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 Fax: 805-965-2414

WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<or>>
http://www.modelshops.com <<or>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: "<Ryan Becker>" <RyBecker@AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 22:32:05 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Maekawa Devil Diagrams???

In a message dated 5/1/99 2:45:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Rosalinda writes:

<< Are the diagrams available for the Maekawa Devils (hope I've spelled it
 right), anywhere other than in Viva Origami?? >>

Hi Rosalinda,
I have been on the look out for these diagrams forever!  I finally found the
crease pattern on Tanteidan's web page at,
http://origami.gr.jp/People/MAEKO/devilcr.gif.  The creases appear as solid
lines so the folder is left to determine mountains and valleys on their own.
It's small too! :)  But where there's a will there's a way!  After working
for several days I completed it.

You need to be familiar with folding from crease patterns.  The Devil is much
more difficult than the crease patterns in Origami Omnibus and OFTC (the
peacock, rhino, and E.T.).  It is much better to start with these easier
ones.  You've gotta really want this model to succeed!

I''ve used a program in Linux to make a larger version of the crease pattern
with mountains, valleys and head, feet, tail, etc., labeled.  If I can get it
over to my Windows system I'll e-mail it to you if your interested.

Hope that helps.

Ryan





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:25:24 -0700
Subject: Re: Aleenes Creative Living

I also could not find the listing for the show.  I live on Long Island (NY)

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
madawson@sprynet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Aleenes Creative Living

>At 11:47 PM 4/29/99 EDT, you wrote:
>>Anybody wants to see me do the money rose.....TNN, tomorrow, Friday,
April
>>30, Aleenes Creative Living Show......Hope they don't postpone it again.
At
>>least those of you who don't know me can see what I look like.  You need
to
>>look up the time. Dorigami
>>
>>
>Hi Dori,
>I would have liked to have seen you do the rose, but I couldn't find the
show
>in my local  TV listings.  I live in a suburb of Hartford, CT.
>Ria





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 19:27:06 -0500
Subject: New Model for May!

Howdy folks!

This month starts off with a new model or an old model depending
on how you look at it by Ken Kawamura! The diagrams are by Sally
Warn.  It is a model of a cat, that can be made from either a
dollar bill or a 2x1 peice of paper!  With a special thanks to
Ken and Sally for permission to post this and to Sandy Toivonen
for helping to obtain permission and for being a good person to
get a hold of for teaching this critter!

Hope you all enjoy it! the files are in gif format.

Perry (sorry for bieng a day late and a "dollar" short!)
--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 09:46:05 -0700
Subject: Re: General folding question

Dear Allan -

I usually find that the earliest folds are the ones that will really mess me
up later on if they are not precise.

Also, when you begin to get multiple layers, you must also endeavor not to
let them slip apart or migrate.  Sometimes using a "fudge factor" (a tiny
space) keeps things from bulking up in one spot.  (This is actually
difficult to write about and much easier to explain visually but such is
e-mail)  A folding bone helps a good deal when folding multiple layers, to
get the folds good & flat & neat.

Hope this helps a little.

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
madawson@sprynet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sunday, May 02, 1999 6:06 AM
Subject: General folding question

>I'm working my way through Maarten Van Gelders caterpillar model
(downloaded
>from the 'net).
>
>I had always noticed my folding wasn't super accurate but it seems so much
>more noticible on this model, none of my edges seem to match up perfectly.
>
>I had always assumed it was just 'how things were' in origami, folding
paper
>with lots of layers/creases ends up not quite as the diagrams show. Now I'm
>not so sure, after seeing some of the lovely & very neatly folded models on
>the 'net I am starting to wonder if its just me.
>
>So, basically what I am asking is "how do people manage to get such well
>folded models?".
>--------------------------
>        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)





From: Thoki Yenn <thok@THOK.DK>
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 11:55:19 +0200
Subject: folding angle question solved

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Belehradek <mbelehradek@CNC.SK>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 12:18 PM
Subject: folding angle

To Michael Belehradek
about >Do you know please any method to fold 54 degrees angle ?

The diagonal in a silver rectangle forms an angle with the short side of 54.7
     degrees
which is close enough for folding puposes..

I have Thoki Yenn working on the diagram for a pentagonal twistbox
a la The hexagonal box of Fujimoto, which he made years ago
and presented  at a BOS Convention.

I will let you all know when .He he has it on my Origami Cloud
www.thok.dk.

Kalmon the great and Glorious.

>I recently tried to fold pentagonal star box by hacking Fuse's hexagonal star
     box.
>In hexagonal box the angle you have to fold is 60 degrees and it is easy.
>But when you want to fold pentagonal box you have to chane angle to 54 degrees.
from 90 degrees?
>I had to guess it.... Anyway it worked but I'd like to know exact solution
>Thank you very much
>
>                                                Michael





From: Binzi <binzi@MUENSTER.DE>
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 13:34:16 +0200
Subject: cat

Hi folders,

I am a new member of the origami list, coming from Germany.
Does anyone have diagrams of cats or other nice animals made by Akira
Yoshizawa?
Please don`t worry if my english isn`t perfect!

cu,
Evi





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 13:57:54 +0100
Subject: General folding question

I'm working my way through Maarten Van Gelders caterpillar model (downloaded
from the 'net).

I had always noticed my folding wasn't super accurate but it seems so much
more noticible on this model, none of my edges seem to match up perfectly.

I had always assumed it was just 'how things were' in origami, folding paper
with lots of layers/creases ends up not quite as the diagrams show. Now I'm
not so sure, after seeing some of the lovely & very neatly folded models on
the 'net I am starting to wonder if its just me.

So, basically what I am asking is "how do people manage to get such well
folded models?".
--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 14:52:30 +0100
Subject: Re: General folding question

Aha. That does seem to be my problem, multiple layers do slip a bit and make
things quite tricky later on.

I assume a 'folding bone' is something to fold the paper over.
--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)

> ----------
> From:         madawson[SMTP:madawson@SPRYNET.COM]
> Reply To:     Origami List
> Sent:         02 May 1999 17:46
> To:   ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject:      Re: General folding question
>
> Dear Allan -
>
> I usually find that the earliest folds are the ones that will really mess
> me
> up later on if they are not precise.
>
> Also, when you begin to get multiple layers, you must also endeavor not to
> let them slip apart or migrate.  Sometimes using a "fudge factor" (a tiny
> space) keeps things from bulking up in one spot.  (This is actually
> difficult to write about and much easier to explain visually but such is
> e-mail)  A folding bone helps a good deal when folding multiple layers, to
> get the folds good & flat & neat.
>
> Hope this helps a little.
>
> MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
> madawson@sprynet.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> Date: Sunday, May 02, 1999 6:06 AM
> Subject: General folding question
>
>
> >I'm working my way through Maarten Van Gelders caterpillar model
> (downloaded
> >from the 'net).
> >
> >I had always noticed my folding wasn't super accurate but it seems so
> much
> >more noticible on this model, none of my edges seem to match up
> perfectly.
> >
> >I had always assumed it was just 'how things were' in origami, folding
> paper
> >with lots of layers/creases ends up not quite as the diagrams show. Now
> I'm
> >not so sure, after seeing some of the lovely & very neatly folded models
> on
> >the 'net I am starting to wonder if its just me.
> >
> >So, basically what I am asking is "how do people manage to get such well
> >folded models?".
> >--------------------------
> >        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)





From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 15:32:28 -0700 (
Subject: Re: General folding question

>
>So, basically what I am asking is "how do people manage to get such well
>folded models?".

As others have mentioned, the accuracy of the first few greatly determines
how neat the model will be.  Actually, most folds are very important.
Sometimes I get so impatient from folding for so long that I mess up on the
last few steps because of my hurry, and ruin what would have been a great
model.

Another factor which determines neatness is paper.  Smaller papers are
almost always harder to work with, and it's easier to squeeze a large point
into being neat than a smaller one.  Thickness also counts;  I remember when
I was about nine I used construction paper for origami...  You can imagine
the results.  Now I use Shop Rite typing paper which gives me an 8 1/2"
square which is suitable for almost all of Lang's insects.  (Yes, the
ultimate test!)  Most origami papers sold in stores are a nice thickness.

Lastly, foil (and I assume tissue foil, though I've never used it) is also
handy for keeping thick points neat.  If it gets to thick for your
fingers...  As had been mentioned on this list several times before, a
hammer works wonders.

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From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 15:34:51 -0500
Subject: Re: General folding question

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson wrote:
>A folding bone helps a good deal when folding multiple layers, to
>get the folds good & flat & neat.

I, too, find a bone folder useful. And here's another suggestion: I read
in Dave Brill's article in the April 1999 British Origami that
Yoshizawa-san uses a mallet. I have often thought of using a mallet to
flatten bulky spots, but never actually overcame my skepticism.

-Jane





From: MORGANA <la.llibreria@BCN.SERVICOM.ES>
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 16:57:15 +0200
Subject: from catalonia with fold

Dear Pedro Luis

Wellcome at the origami list. I'm very happy.

If you need references of diagrams, information about papers or
bookstores in barcelona or spain e-mail me.

And if you want to know A.E.P (Asociacion Espaqola de Papiroflexia)
visit
www.publynet.com/aep

Atentamente
Nicolas Jenson

P.D. if you want write in spanish, e-mail privately
