




From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:04:22 -0400
Subject: Re: French Convention

At 02:12 PM 4/11/99 EDT, you wrote:

>It is rumoured that J Shafer will be attending the French Convention.... Can
>anyone confirm this?

Yes, he will go, according to himself ;-)

Peter Budai





From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:31:57 -0700 (
Subject: Re: Sv: hello

Hello, I am sorry, I should have mentioned that I prefer to be called
Wing.
Thank you for the site to see the diagrams.  I think that I can learn
more objects.
Do you know any sites where there are diagrams in DPF (or is it PFD
or PDF?)format?  I also would like to know if there is any object
which is folded with dollar bill money, because that way I do not
need special measured papers. thank you
Wing

_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com





From: =?iso-8859-1?B?VEhPUktJTEQgU9hOREVSR8VSRA==?= <thokiyenn@GET2NET.DK>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:34:14 +0200
Subject: Sv:      hello

Hello Wing
and Tiffany Tam

Have a look at
www.thok.dk
there are boxes and and other things at
the Origami Cloud. Don,t bother to look at the other Clouds
unless you have plenty of time to waste on them ?

Greetings from the great and glorious
Kalmon





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:53:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Words wanted!

> >> Anyone know the Japanese for "flying"? I want a word then includes
> >>  "flying" and "paper" - sort of lie "Flappigami"!

> >I don't, but I asked my sister and she says
> >        (to) fly = tobu, tobimasu; flying = tonde iru (animate or living
> >object) / tonde aru (inanimate object) ; to use it as in 'origami' and
> >'kirigami', I think you would say 'tobi' + gami = tobigami...?

> >so I think tobigami.

> Sounds good, but it's not as fun as "soar-i-gami". 8)

As opposed to "sore-i-gami" which is what one gets after folding very stiff
"paper" all day. ;-)

-D'gou





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:22:34 +0200
Subject: Just hit back! (was: RE: interesting Web sites,

For information about what they're talking about, click the  'BACK' link
all the way down there on the page.

Matthias

John E. Clark wrote:
>At this site what are they talking about, tickets? What find of
>Tickets?
>http://www.angelfire.com/ab/dayos/imagese.html





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:17:13 -0500
Subject: Re: mis-ed

<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
&nbsp;
<p>Susan Dugan wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>
<blockquote
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT:
     5px"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>I
agree with you I'm a slow southerner who thinks the Issue is valid but
it is being pushed to fast and with allot of "misunderstanding, mistrust,
mis-information" I hope we do not make any MIS-TAKES with out ALL being
informed exc...</font></font></blockquote>
</blockquote>
So as a southerner you figure they shouldn't ought ta throw out the baby
with the bath water, as my granny from Tennessee was fond of saying.
<br>&nbsp;
<p>--
<br>pbailey@opencominc.com
<br><A HREF="http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/">http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/</A>&nb
     sp; &lt;---- Origami Web Page with
Diagrams!
<br>ICQ 23622644
<br>&nbsp;
</body>
</html>





From: Susan Dugan <florafauna@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:32:55 -0400
Subject: Re: mis-ed

    ---
    From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
    To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
    Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 9:14 PM
    Subject: OUSA

    >>This issue is being forced and with that, I believe, TIME to really
     EVALUATE both points is >>not being given.  This could be done at the
     annual meeting at Convention & afterwards >>through the mail, using OUSA
     funding, explaining both points of vie
 .  The way it is being >>done now is not fair to either.  There is
     misunderstanding, mistrust, mis-information  (have I >>mis-ed anything?).

    >>I still do not see your point as to why this must be done for this
     election.

    I agree with you I'm a slow southerner who thinks the Issue is valid but it
     is being pushed to fast and with allot of "misunderstanding, mistrust,
     mis-information" I hope we do not make any MIS-TAKES with out ALL being
     informed exc...
    Hobbit





From: Maura Trucks <mtrucks@GDINET.COM>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:33:49 -0500
Subject:

I have had the same experience, and it is very irritating!  Hope they fix
this.
Maura

Chinh Nguyen wrote:

> what's wrong with aitoh?  why can't they cut their squares 10x10, or am i
> the only one (it's always slightly off).  since they are rapidly becoming
> the major kami distributor (yasutomo seems to be vanishing on these
> shores, and kotobuki is still largely import), i'm wondering if i'm the
> only one irritated over the matter.





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:34:52 -0700
Subject: Re: Sv: hello

At 12:31 PM 4/13/99 PDT, you wrote:
>Hello, I am sorry, I should have mentioned that I prefer to be called
>Wing.
>Thank you for the site to see the diagrams.  I think that I can learn
>more objects.
>Do you know any sites where there are diagrams in DPF (or is it PFD
>or PDF?)format?  I also would like to know if there is any object
>which is folded with dollar bill money, because that way I do not
>need special measured papers. thank you
>Wing
>
>_______________________________________________________________
>Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
>
>
Wing:
There are some sites just for money folds.  Just go to Joseph Wu's
page and under links USA, I think you will find some.
Ria





From: Darren Scott <Darren.Scott@SCI.MONASH.EDU.AU>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:36:53 +0000
Subject: Diagrams on the Web ?

Just a quick question. Has anyone thought about writing a CGI script
to catalog all the diagrams on the web.
Somthing like the origami-l search or model database.  If it found
matches it could just give a link to the pages with the suitable
diagrams.

darren
-------------------------
Definition of Atheism:  a non-prophet organization.





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:13:56 -0700
Subject: Re: Diagrams on the Web ?

At 10:36 99/04/14 +0000, you wrote:
>Just a quick question. Has anyone thought about writing a CGI script
>to catalog all the diagrams on the web.
>Somthing like the origami-l search or model database.  If it found
>matches it could just give a link to the pages with the suitable
>diagrams.

I've got a partial catalog done with help from Julius Kusserow (he supplied
the data, I supplied the code). You can take a look at the preliminary
script's output at:

<http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/cgi-bin/file_link.cgi>

----------------------------------------------------------------
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t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
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From: "Kennedy, Mark" <KennedyM@DNB.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:47:00 -0400
Subject: Origami Politics

To All

This is my busiest time of year at work. I have never felt that I have had
the time to get envolved with the list. But given the seriousness of the
Threat to OUSA I have felt the need to join the list and comment. I having
been a member of FOCA/OUSA since 1984 and a past board member, I feel that I
have a vested interest in the Organisation. I am distrubed at the methods
that are being utilized for change.

In my opinion, Allan Parry has some hidden motives for his attack on OUSA. I
feel as if he wants to either take over or destroy the organization. I
believer that he is astute enough to to get honorable people to back him. I
don't know Sandy very well but what I do know is that she is committed to
the Origami world and sharing. I have felt that I have known Steve Buck much
better, and feel that if push come to shove he will do the honorable thing.
I do not know Carol Martinson at all except that she ran for the Board last
year. I have seen some email (in regards to regional groups) that she is
still working for projects for OSUA, so I have hopes for her.

AS to Allan Parry, in my converstation last January, he wanted to move the
Organization out of the Museum and decentralize everthing. Board meetings
were to held in a secured chat room - that means only members who could
afford computers and internet could run. He made wild exagerations about
OUSA spending soooo much time working on Museum projects. From my
experiance, we do some projects for the Museum - folding by the tree (some
OUSA volunteers and the rest museum volunteers trained by OUSA), OUSA has
the decoration for the tree but the Museum pays the labor to mount the tree,
teaching at members day (every other year now), there is legislature night
where the museum has a dinner for the people who vote on museum funding come
- OUSA is part of the "entertainment" - the OUSA part is staffed by
vounteers who get dinner, and some incidental folding. This is a low price
to pay for our Museum office. Office any where else would cost alot more. It
is in my sense that in the last couple of years the museum has turned to us
more offen as a resource to help them draw attendance. This cuts two ways
since we do get new members from this..

Ever since I have join back around 1984, there has been an undercurrent of
resentment against New York. Allan Parry has been able to capitalise on this
resentment  to his own advantage. The board has tried to be sensitive to
long distance members but obviously has failed in its attempt. That will
need to be addressed publically, forcefully, and soon. I think that there
will be some.

The New york members do recieve some advantages due to proxcimity but at a
cost of doing most of the work. Some jobs are farmed out to regional groups
and individuals. Housing registration for convention - Atlanta (Martha and
Mary Jane),  Model Menu - Arizona (deg), Affiliate Groups - Denver (Dee
Lynch) and I believe that some of the diagram proof readers for the
Convention book are out of town. For day to day mailing, it is easier to
have a bunch of ladies in the office do the stuffing. OUSA has the postal
permit. Under postal regs it is possible to do mailings else where but it is
a bureaucratic mess to do so. I know that Toby (Michael and Alice before
that)  does some folding with the volunteers on occasion - that is a good
team building exercise that keeps them coming back for more of the grunt
work.

One point, I run the Origami Sundays. It started out as Origami
Monday at Lillian's appartment. When she retired, it shifted to the
Museum on Wednesday nights since it was open late that night. When
due to budget cuts, the Museum eliminated the late night, FOCA was
given the choice of shifting to Sundays or paying $200 for a security
guard. Since FOCA was a national group, we voted not to spend the
general members money on a project that benefits only the NYC area
members. When initiating Origami Free 4 Alls on Sunday, the Board
gave explicit instructions that Origami USA money was not to be spent
on purely a local activity. Everyone who shows up, must bring their
own paper. The folders in attendence will generally share with those
new people who have not brought paper. We also get many out of town
guest who stop by while they are visiting NYC. I have a 2 hour drive
to get the Museum and then it can take me up to an hour to find
parking on the street. Sometimes I have been lucky. Sometimes, I have
looked to for pay parking only to find the lots near the Museum to be
full. For those who have not attend the Origami Free 4 Alls - they
are like the informal folding that takes place t conventions. The
only OUSA support that we recieve is the notice in the newsletter and
Toby makes a call the the Museum to reserve the room

 Special Sessions are primarily fund raisers. I know that OUSA has offered
to help regional groups to hold their own but no one has taken them up on
the offer. I remember that Carol Ann Wilkes had done kits up at one point
for people who did not attend but I do not know why they did not continue. I
suspect something to do with being labor intensive and lack of interest.

Allan's seven bulleted points in his letters contain half trues and out
right misrepresentations.

1) There are 11 board seats, three of which are filled from outside of NYC.
The  five open spots this year are limited to people who can attend
meetings. There are only three outside lines in the office thus limiting the
conference call options for out of town members. Non-NY can run next year.
>From my figuring, about 25 percent of the board is non-NYers. My knowledge
of the membership from about 1990 was that non-NYers (those members living
over 2 hours drive of NYC)  made up about 25 percent of the membership. I am
sure that the percentages have shifted with the rise of regional groups.

2) You can serve on committes if you are outside of NYC. I am chair of the
Business Committee and I travel 2 hours to get to the meetings. I do try to
arrange them on the same days as Origami Sundays so I only have one trip.
That is not always possible.

3) You can volunteer if you are outside of NYC. Some of the job options are
more limited. Some just haven't been suggested. ie.: Housing registration
for convention - Atlanta (Martha and Mary Jane),  Model Menu - Arizona
(deg), Affiliate Groups - Denver (Dee Lynch) and I believe that some of the
diagram proof readers for the Convention book are out of town.

4) Special Events in NYC that you  can't attend due to geographic
challenges. That is right. Special Sessions are done as a fund raisers. It
has always been board policy that these invitations be sent to the whole
membership. Whenever it has been suggested that for budget reasons to save a
few bucks, we limited the mailings to NYC area only - it is quickly
dismissed. I would hate to think what his complaint would be if we had ever
followed that suggest - they have events and don't invite us.  Special
Sessions are primarily fund raisers. I know that OUSA has offered to help
regional groups to hold their own but no one has taken them up on the offer.
I remember that Carol Ann Wilkes had done kits up at one point for people
who did not attend but I do not know why they did not continue. I suspect
something to do with being labor intensive and lack of interest.  On
occassions, we will have out of town members show
up at Special Sessions while on a trip to NYC. Some of them are visiting
family and descretly plan there visit accordingly. Also, business trips have
been adjusted as well. The Special Sessions are
fund raiser for the organization that help us meet our expenses. Sure only
people lucky enough to live near NYC or to be visiting are able to attend,
but they pay for the privilege. When pricing the Special Session care was
taken so that an Origami Family could afford to attend since you pay for
each class.

5) The special library is not open to non NYC members. This is the most
off-based idea of the lot. I remeber in the old days of Alice's Turret
Office over looking the park. The books where on the metal industrial
shelves out in the open, until we noticed the books walking off. We had to
order glass enclosed book cases with locks to protect our collection. Many
of these books are irreplacable. Do we risk these books to the mail.
Libraries do not loan out their reference books.        I do not loan out
copies of my Origami books . The BOS does make diagrams available to members
but you have to sign a pledge not to make copies.

6) The Museum pass is a function of the Museum not OUSA. When I got my badge
many years ago at Michael's suggestion, the Museum was very lax. Michael
said that something about the Museum getting some sort of tax benefits for
volunteer hours - I don't really know and that information is  about 15
years old. Last year, I nearly lost my badge since I had not been dutiful in
recording my volunteer hours. Last year you had to volunteer at least 96
hours to keep the badge; this year I believe that it is 128. For me the
advantage was a free off the street parking spot on weekends - which is gone
several years now with the Museum renovation project. You can get into most
NYC museums for free with this badge.  It is not always honored elsewhere in
the country. This is a New York accessible benefit but has nothing to do
with OUSA.

7) I don't believe that the Paper has such a bias on listing NY events and
people. I will have to review that one.

To make the organization more responsive to the members, I would like to see
the newsletter increase to six times a year. For that we need to get another
more reliable editor. I don't know what happened to the last one. Just
before I left the board about 4 years ago, I can remember getting a report
from our accountant that our dues just about covered the cost of our
mailing. At that point, the board instituted an $8 surcharge to get the
paper first class. Michael use to quote the cost of the paper as over a
dollar 10 years ago. I am sure the price has gone up. Since then, we have
hired several editors to produce the paper. There is also the cost of the
mailing house, envelopes and overhead. If the Paper were to increase in
frequency, we would have to adjust dues. This could be a hardship on some
members.

Those are my inital thoughts. Don supporting change is needed to face the
future but not Allan Parry.

Mark





From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:40:53 +0200
Subject: TreeMaker on a MacEmulator for PC or Linux or NeXT..or whatever...

Hi !!!

            I would like to get Treemaker , the famous moose designing
application,  to run on a MacEMulator.

http://www.ardi.com/   ( here you can find PC and Linux Mac Emulators)

http://www.rug.nl/rugcis/rc/ftp/origami/programs/TreeMaker/index.htm  ( here
is Treemaker available)

here is what you can do, among other great stuff, with treemaker
http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/  -> galleries ->Other Impressive
Origami ->moose

            If anyone on the list has magic powers, or is a computer guru,
or has been blessed by the holy sacred spirit of the moose, it'd be nice to
try to share experiences and frustrations in trying to get the program to
work on a mac emulator. I would wholeheartedly welcome any tips leading to
get the program to work.

            For Herr Sebastian Marius Kirsch, among others:  please note
that there is a Linux emulator !!!

             Well, good luck and let me know if anyone succedes, because I
haven't managed so far to get it to work, as it crashes as soon as one opens
the "NEW" menu item.

                                                    cheers,

Ariel





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:54:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Origami Politics

"Kennedy, Mark" wrote:

> Those are my inital thoughts. Don supporting change is needed to face the
> future but not Allan Parry.
>
Well thought out and well written reply, though I feel demonizing
Allan Parry to be out of place, and out of character for an
otherwise excellent rebutal.  Please people stick to thoughs,
ideas, or beliefs, not personalities.  All you can do by
insulting some one in any field is to make an enemy, debate and
disagreement do not have to be personal.

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:07:12 -0700
Subject: Re: Omnigami...

At 09:01 PM 4/14/99 +0100, you wrote:
>Hullo there,
>
>In my travels around the web and through reading this list and various
>books as well as my own creative attempts, it has occured to me that
>everything seems to have been folded. As an example there is even a
>CLOGGED ARTERY!!! diagrammed in the BOS newsletter No.195.It's by Jeremy
>Shafer and it's rather fun.
>
>My question is this; What has NOT been folded yet?
>
>What about these?
>
>1. A typical "grey" space alien, complete with arms, legs and large
>almond shaped black eyes.(flying saucer optional)
>2. A movable "Anglepoise" lamp.
>3. The M. C. Escher Manbird, to be seen in 'Still Life with Spherical
>Mirror' and 'Other World'.
>4. A complete chess set (black & white chequered board compulsory!)
>
>I would be quite happy to be proved wrong on each of these counts!
>
>Cheers
>
>Rikki
>
>
Rikki:
The chess set has been done by a few people I know about and Montroll is one
of them.
I think Peter Engle may have done an Escher type model.
Ria





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:48:13 -0700
Subject: Re: Omnigami...

At 21:01 99/04/14 +0100, you wrote:
>My question is this; What has NOT been folded yet?

My standard answer: smoke.

>What about these?
>
>1. A typical "grey" space alien, complete with arms, legs and large
>almond shaped black eyes.(flying saucer optional)

Done. It appears (with a badly Anglicized name: "Glay the Arien") in one of
the Origami Tanteidan convention collections.

>2. A movable "Anglepoise" lamp.

I'm not familiar with this term.

>3. The M. C. Escher Manbird, to be seen in 'Still Life with Spherical
>Mirror' and 'Other World'.

That would seem to be still open.

>4. A complete chess set (black & white chequered board compulsory!)

Done by many people, as already noted.

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From: Howard Portugal <howardpo@MICROSOFT.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:50:33 -0700
Subject: Re: Omnigami...

There's diagrams for a "gray" in one of the Tanteidan convention books (#3 I
think).

Howard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carlos Alberto Furuti [mailto:furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 1:26 PM
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: Omnigami...
>
>
> >>From owner-origami@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Wed Apr 14 17:08 EST 1999
> >>Subject:      Re: Omnigami...
> >>
> >>>1. A typical "grey" space alien, complete with arms, legs and large
> >>>almond shaped black eyes.(flying saucer optional)
> >>>2. A movable "Anglepoise" lamp.
> >>>3. The M. C. Escher Manbird, to be seen in 'Still Life
> with Spherical
> >>>4. A complete chess set (black & white chequered board compulsory!)
> >>>I would be quite happy to be proved wrong on each of these counts!
> >>>
> >>The chess set has been done by a few people I know about
> and Montroll is one
> >>of them.
> The BOS published an entire booklet dedicated to chess
> pieces. Elsewhere
> there are chessboards both in one piece (see Montroll and
> Kirschenbaum models)
> and modular. More recently, J.Wu published his chessmen
> (without a board).
>
> >>I think Peter Engle may have done an Escher type model.
> Engel's book has an Escher-inspired photography in his book's
> cover. However,
> it's inspired in "Drawing Hands" (two hands emerge from a sheet of
> paper drawing [in Engel's case, folding] each other). I don't know
> if it's true origami or a clever paper sculpture. On the other hand,
> Jeremy Shafer actually created a true origami paraphrase of
> "Drawing Hands",
> in both two- and four-hand versions.
> I don't know of an actual "manbird" model; however, Escher's concept
> is not too intricate, so it wouldn't be too difficult shaping
> an ordinary
> bird model (from the bird base, let's say) with a human head.
>
> >>Ria
>
> I bet it won't be long before Rikki's two other items are realized in
> paper (if they aren't already). As an origami-l member quotes in
> his signature, "never doubt the ... power of origami".
>
>         Sincerely,
>                 Carlos
>         furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:19:17 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Politics

Thanks to Mark Kennedy for his substantial contribution to this
discussion.

If national representation is the goal in this dispute, why are a
handful of members threatening legal action without the input of the
entire membership?  No litigation without representation!

Legal action is in total opposition to my wishes as a member and should
be  abandoned in favor of the opening up of an inclusive and
constructive dialogue between the Board and OrigamiUSA membership.

Dorothy





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:26:06 -0300
Subject: Re: Omnigami...

>>From owner-origami@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Wed Apr 14 17:08 EST 1999
>>Subject:      Re: Omnigami...
>>
>>>1. A typical "grey" space alien, complete with arms, legs and large
>>>almond shaped black eyes.(flying saucer optional)
>>>2. A movable "Anglepoise" lamp.
>>>3. The M. C. Escher Manbird, to be seen in 'Still Life with Spherical
>>>4. A complete chess set (black & white chequered board compulsory!)
>>>I would be quite happy to be proved wrong on each of these counts!
>>>
>>The chess set has been done by a few people I know about and Montroll is one
>>of them.
The BOS published an entire booklet dedicated to chess pieces. Elsewhere
there are chessboards both in one piece (see Montroll and Kirschenbaum models)
and modular. More recently, J.Wu published his chessmen (without a board).

>>I think Peter Engle may have done an Escher type model.
Engel's book has an Escher-inspired photography in his book's cover. However,
it's inspired in "Drawing Hands" (two hands emerge from a sheet of
paper drawing [in Engel's case, folding] each other). I don't know
if it's true origami or a clever paper sculpture. On the other hand,
Jeremy Shafer actually created a true origami paraphrase of "Drawing Hands",
in both two- and four-hand versions.
I don't know of an actual "manbird" model; however, Escher's concept
is not too intricate, so it wouldn't be too difficult shaping an ordinary
bird model (from the bird base, let's say) with a human head.

>>Ria

I bet it won't be long before Rikki's two other items are realized in
paper (if they aren't already). As an origami-l member quotes in
his signature, "never doubt the ... power of origami".

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:35:02 -0500
Subject: Re: if you skipped

If you skipped Carols message on Origami politics, stop, go back
and read it.

It is the best thought out and reasoned argument yet delivered on
the subject!!!!!

I will save it on my system for a few days, if you missed it and
want to see it e-mail me and I will send you a copy of it.

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:44:57 -0500
Subject: Re: OUSA Rare Book Library

Carol Martinson wrote:

> over time.  It just simply disappears.  Despite these problems, I do
> feel that digitizing the collection should be investigated since new
> things keep developing and it should be possible to convert from one
> format to a newer one, if done in a timely manner.

>     Carol Martinson

I agree that it true that as some of these books get older they
will begin to decay, in many cases nothing can stop that, it is a
result of the acid in the paper and the inks used, but they can
for the most part still be photocopied, and then if preservation
is really what is desired, digitised.  I have a scanner, and I
have offered many times to help OUSA in any way that I can, I
would be more than happy to help scan in old manuscripts and
clean them up to be legible and usable again.  And I am sure
there are other members outside of New York and in New York who
would be willing to help.

Perry

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From: Carol Martinson <carolm47@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:39:31 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Politics

     The tone of some recent messages have tried to throw the
discussion  off the key issues by appealing to the emotion and focusing
on things that are not the key issues.  Nevertheless I will try to
answer some of them.  I have been very disappointed by the personal
attacks contained in at least one of them.  There are real issues in
dispute here regardless of the personalities of the people involved on
either side.

     Since with this system I cannot easily quote and my computer time
is limited, I will summarize some statements in the order they were
covered.

     The issue of the location of the Home Office in the Museum has two
sides.  Personally, I think the fact that OUSA was able to obtain free
office space was a political coup, but I also know from personal
experience that the hidden costs of such free locations can be very
high just from the experience that Origami Minnesota has had.  I would
like to see, and have all members see, the actual reports that have to
exist on volunteer hours as a nonprofit under IRS rulings.  Parts of
the reports, such as personal salaries of office workers, do not have
to be made public.  If I misread the reporting requirements in the IRS
regulations, there should be other data available.  I would like the
membership to see the raw data before either side has the opportunity
to massage it to fit their viewpoint.  At where I work, we keep track
of the number of volunteer hours down to the hour, who they were, and
what they did.  While OUSA may not be as stringent in keeping track,
there should be figures available.  I also agree that New York area
people have been burdened with doing most of the work, and because of
their proximity to the Home office and the numbers of members in the
area, they have some advantages that other areas will not have.  A
person on the Board supplied an estimate of rental space in New York
that I do not dispute and needs to be taken into consideration in any
decision that is made.  What should be done is an impartial weighing of
the benefits of having a free space for a Home Office against the
burdens.   At that point everyone can make a rational decision.

     The issue about non-New York volunteers has valid arguments on
each side, but should be resolvable.  I think that with current
technologies more could be done outside of New York if people can be
found who are willing to expend the energy.  This was also brought up
by people in my area before I even mentioned it.

     The information that the Special Sessions are done as fund raisers
is very good for everyone to know.  That is not how the people from
Minnesota have viewed them.  Occasionally pointing out, in a noticeable
spot, that they are fund raisers might help  I admire the large amount
of work that Mark Kennedy has obviously devoted to make them
successful.  I, personally, have wondered about the costs of mailing
notices to everyone.  There may be other ways of making the information
readily available to people making trips into New York, and there may
not be.

     As to the fact that OUSA has offered to help regional groups hold
their own special sessions, none of us in Minnesota remember seeing
anything.  Now there have been a couple changes in our Board so it may
be that the information wasn't passed on, or again, better display
methods in publicizing it may help.  What is the help that is offered?

     I have seen three totally different interpretations on the
availability of Museum passes and who gets them.  Enough said.

     As to the issue of the availability of the special library, well,
I am a reference librarian who, among other duties at the same time,
was in charge of our local history collection for ten years.  I know
all the problems and desires on both sides of the issue.  When I last
replied to the list, I also wrote up a response on the library issue.
I was planning on listing some citations on the fragility of each type
of information storage and transfer, and discovered I did not have them
with me.  The next day the issue had died down, so I just hung on to
the reply.  I do not have the citations with me again, but I will send
out that message after I finish this one, and will be able to supply
the citations (the ones on digital storage are truly frightening to
librarians) to anyone who requests them.  In that message I proposed
some solutions, none of which are ideal.  There are two further
wrinkles in that issue which have only been obliquely referred to.
Preservation is one, and that can be gone into detail after everything
settles down.  In some situations storage in a glass display case may
actually accelerate deterioration unless it is UV protected and climate
controlled.  I agree that they need to be locked up to prevent their
disappearance.  That is a universal problem of all libraries.  However,
as a public librarian I also believe that the information in them has
to be available in some way, possibly as a result of a preservation
effort, and if they continue to deteriorate they will become too
fragile for anyone to use.  What real value are they if they cannot be
used?  That is, of course, a very public librarian point of view.

     I have produced three different newsletters.  Prices may very well
be higher in New York and eat up a larger percentage of the dues than I
believe, but they certainly are not the amount of the dues.  Again, I
would like the membership to see the actual figures before they are
massaged by either side.  The newsletter is a problem that is solvable,
whatever each side sees as the problem.  Content is a matter of
individual perception.

     I have heard and read hyperbole on both sides. It has been implied
I was duped into running for office.  I cannot speak for the others,
but I agreed to run because I saw that there was a major problem that
this attempt would bring to the attention of the membership and
possibly could be corrected if it caught enough attention, not because
of what was said about the Home Office issue, nor the library (which I
am innately passionate about solving), nor the content of the articles
in the Paper.  Holding Board meetings through chat rooms was not
discussed with me.  Again, I cannot speak for the others in this
statement, but I fully believed I would have to travel to New York as
much as possible when running under these circumstances to make this
truly work.  Maybe I was duped in the belief that I would have to
travel.  Many other nonprofit organizations have Board members from all
over the country.  They make it work.  Why can't we?

     As a final note, an organization that has so many people
passionate about it on both sides of issues is certainly worth the
effort to work out a solution that the entire membership agrees upon.

     Carol Martinson

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From: Carol Martinson <carolm47@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:45:54 -0700
Subject: Re: OUSA Rare Book Library

     Several people have commented on the problem of the availability
of OUSA's rare book collection to people outside of the immediate New
York area.  As a librarian who was in charge of our local history
collection for many years, I know the issues and some of the possible
solutions.  Unfortunately, there currently is no ideal solution.

     No one is proposing shipping rare books around the country or the
world.  They simply would not survive the rough handling and the
possible bad conditions they would be subjected to.  Several
possibilities exist that would make the collection more widely
available, but unfortunately there is currently no way to make them
available to everyone.

     Someone suggested photocopying them and shipping the copies
around.  That may be possible for some items, but not all.  The action
of pressing down on the binding to make photocopies destroys the
binding.  If the paper is brittle, the paper literally disintegrates as
you flip the books over from page to page or move it around on the
glass.  If the book is still sturdy enough to withstand such treatment,
that could be a possible short term solution since only one copy would
be made.  Other copies, of necessity, would need to be made from the
first photocopy.

     The method that I would suggest is microfilming them, making a
silver dioxide master film, and then making cheap microfilm copies from
the master that could be shipped around the country and taken in to
libraries for viewing.  Selection of the vendor would have to be
carefully made since some would want to take the books apart to
microfilm them.  We had a company borrow some of our very fragile old
city directories to microfilm them, and they returned them to us intact
along with quite nice microfilm copies, so it can be done.  Microfilm
is certainly not the most convenient or easy to use media around, and
microfilm does deteriorate over time, but the master copy can be
renewed periodically before you lose any quality.

     Another feasible suggestion is to somehow digitize them.  I am not
up on what the latest technology is to do this, but I am sure there are
experts on this list or members of OUSA who are.  There are some
problems with this solution too.  One company wanted to digitize our
city directories.  To do that they wanted to tear them apart, the same
problem you have to be wary of when microfilming and which should also
be avoidable with the right choices.  Another problem is that even
fewer people have access to the appropriate technology and software
than have access  to microfilm equipment through libraries, and even
fewer libraries have the right equipment and software for those who
still do not have their own equipment.  The technology is changing
rapidly.  Even now it is known in the library world that CD-ROMs are
already on the way out as a storage device for information, though they
will be around for another 10 years or so in many libraries.  There is
an article about all these different storage members that appeared in
the Washington Post on March 2 of this year.  It is frightening in its
implications.  The New York Times ran a series of articles on these
same problems last year.  A problem that many people are unaware of is
that online information, just like paper and microfilm, deteriorates
over time.  It just simply disappears.  Despite these problems, I do
feel that digitizing the collection should be investigated since new
things keep developing and it should be possible to convert from one
format to a newer one, if done in a timely manner.

     A separate matter that needs to be addressed soon with the
collection is preservation, but that is an issue that is, for this
discussion, separate from the issue of making the information available
to all the membership.

    Carol Martinson

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From: "Jerry D. Harris" <102354.2222@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:15:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Omnigami...

Message text written by Origami List
>I bet it won't be long before Rikki's two other items are realized in
paper (if they aren't already). <

        I have no idea about the lamp, but a reasonable facsimile of the
"typical alien" (whatever a "typical" alien looks like) can be found in the
4th _Origami Tanteidan Convention_ book.

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From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:47:54 +0100
Subject: Re: TreeMaker on a MacEmulator for PC or Linux or NeXT..or whatev er...

After trying TreeMaker 3.6 on the vMac emulator (after a load of messing
about trying to create an emulated disk image) it crashed with
"Unimplemented Trap".

I assume this is just because the emulator is not a 100% copy of a Mac.
--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)

> ----------
> From:         rikki donachie[SMTP:rikki@EDNET.CO.UK]
> Reply To:     Origami List
> Sent:         14 April 1999 20:52
> To:   ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject:      Re: TreeMaker on a MacEmulator for PC or Linux or NeXT..or
> whatever...
>
> Ariel wrote:
>
> >             I would like to get Treemaker , the famous moose designing
> > application,  to run on a MacEMulator.
> >
> >             If anyone on the list has magic powers, or is a computer
> guru,
> > or has been blessed by the holy sacred spirit of the moose, it'd be nice
> to
> > try to share experiences and frustrations in trying to get the program
> to
> > work on a mac emulator. I would wholeheartedly welcome any tips leading
> to
> > get the program to work.
> >
> >              Well, good luck and let me know if anyone succedes, because
> I
> > haven't managed so far to get it to work, as it crashes as soon as one
> opens
> > the "NEW" menu item.
> >
>
> I down loaded this thing about a month ago and couldn't even open the file
> to
> see what it was all about! I am not a computer guru I am a cartoonist so I
> am
> unable to help. But I do use a Macintosh IIci (it is very old!)
> Is there anyone out there who can help?
>
> Cheers
>
> Rikki





From: rikki donachie <rikki@EDNET.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:52:38 +0100
Subject: Re: TreeMaker on a MacEmulator for PC or Linux or NeXT..or whatever...

Ariel wrote:

>             I would like to get Treemaker , the famous moose designing
> application,  to run on a MacEMulator.
>
>             If anyone on the list has magic powers, or is a computer guru,
> or has been blessed by the holy sacred spirit of the moose, it'd be nice to
> try to share experiences and frustrations in trying to get the program to
> work on a mac emulator. I would wholeheartedly welcome any tips leading to
> get the program to work.
>
>              Well, good luck and let me know if anyone succedes, because I
> haven't managed so far to get it to work, as it crashes as soon as one opens
> the "NEW" menu item.
>

I down loaded this thing about a month ago and couldn't even open the file to
see what it was all about! I am not a computer guru I am a cartoonist so I am
unable to help. But I do use a Macintosh IIci (it is very old!)
Is there anyone out there who can help?

Cheers

Rikki





From: Allen Parry <parry@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:52:39 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Politics

Mark,

You letter hurts.  I wasn't even able to read it all, it was so upsetting
to read.

This campaign has cost me much more than I expected... in personal attacks
from people I call friends.

If there is ANYTHING, ANYWAY you feel that I am in anyway personally
benefiting, please let me know.  I will decline those benefits,
just so their are no doubts of my intentions.  If you think open elections
are devisive... participation of the entire country, rather than one
segment as an attempt to distroy OrigamiUSA....  I just don't understand?

I have a lot of respect for you and consider you a friend.  Its true, you
have been integral to OrigamiUSA for many years and I don't think anyone
could refute that fact.

I am sorry, I am just very shocked.  My only motivation is the hope for a
truly national organizaion.

Allen Parry
parry@eskimo.com





From: rikki donachie <rikki@EDNET.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:01:31 +0100
Subject: Omnigami...

Hullo there,

In my travels around the web and through reading this list and various
books as well as my own creative attempts, it has occured to me that
everything seems to have been folded. As an example there is even a
CLOGGED ARTERY!!! diagrammed in the BOS newsletter No.195.It's by Jeremy
Shafer and it's rather fun.

My question is this; What has NOT been folded yet?

What about these?

1. A typical "grey" space alien, complete with arms, legs and large
almond shaped black eyes.(flying saucer optional)
2. A movable "Anglepoise" lamp.
3. The M. C. Escher Manbird, to be seen in 'Still Life with Spherical
Mirror' and 'Other World'.
4. A complete chess set (black & white chequered board compulsory!)

I would be quite happy to be proved wrong on each of these counts!

Cheers

Rikki





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:30:09 +0200
Subject: Re: Diagrams on the Web ?

Joseph Wu schrieb:
> I've got a partial catalog done with help from Julius Kusserow
> <http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/cgi-bin/file_link.cgi>

Wow, I'm impressed. I found all my diagrams there!

Matthias
(Narciss would be proud of me)





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:30:47 -0400
Subject: SASADE Shinji's The Grey Alien

If you're curious to know what the model looks like, I've just put some photos
of some aliens that I folded up on my web site:
    http://dropit.pgh.net/~dwp/origami/Origami.html
Click on the Aliens link (the new gallery links show up at the end of the
list).

WARNING:  The .JPG files are large, and were editted on a Mac, so you folks
looking at them with PC screens will find them darker.

WARNING:  The .JPG files are LARGE

Enjoy!

Thanks to Anne LaVin for providing translations of the models and titles from
the Tanteidan Convention books!  (See Joseph Wu's site:
http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/ for a link to Anne's site).

I will be updating the page to include more information about the model and
the collection, but for now, enjoy the photos.

-D'gou





From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:56:12 -0700 (
Subject: Dispalying models

Hi

I have a large number of folded models that I currently have in
protective plastic wallets.These cover a wide spectrum from human to
animal, objects etc.

I am thinking about about making a display (not public), as a lot of
models would look much better standing up.

Has anyone got suggestions on how to make the models stand
temporarily not permanently ?
I am also considering creating some sort of background scenes to some
models. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I notice that a lot of top folders display their models to such good
effect....not that I rate myself as one!

Best Wishes

Imtiaz

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From: Michael Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:39:14 +1000
Subject: Re: Omnigami...

The "Grey Alien" appears in Tanteidan Convention #4 for those trying to
track it down.

regards,

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Michael Janssen-Gibson                 e-mail: mig@isd.canberra.edu.au
ISD, Library                   phone/voice mail: +61 6 (06)  201 5271
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From: Theodore Andrew Brown III <screwed@TIAC.NET>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:24:45 -0400
Subject: Origami Politics

Does anyone know of an Origami organization or club of some sort in the greater
     New England area? (I'm in north eastern Massachusetts)

I'm new to origami and very interested in the art.

But SHOCKED with what I'm reading about OUSA!
And I do not feel comfortable mailing funds to an organization with this much
     turmoil going on.

Thanks in advance!

-Ted





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:11:51 -0700
Subject: Re: Diagrams on the Web ?

At 12:04 99/04/15 -0400, you wrote:
>That's a remarkable compilation. However, my browser refuses to open any of
>the listed sites. It disclaims, "The requested header was not found." As I
>recall, the browser is IE3 running on AOL. Help!

Have you considered getting a newer browser? I don't mean that facetiously.
IE3 is very buggy. Anyway, I suspect that the problem is with my redirection
script. I've just changed that, so try again and let me know if it works or
not.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
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From: Charles Beittel <CBeit24275@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:04:56 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Diagrams on the Web ?

That's a remarkable compilation. However, my browser refuses to open any of
the listed sites. It disclaims, "The requested header was not found." As I
recall, the browser is IE3 running on AOL. Help!

cbeit24275@aol.com





From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@DORSAI.ORG>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:26:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami Politics

> I'm new to origami and very interested in the art.
> But SHOCKED with what I'm reading about OUSA!
> And I do not feel comfortable mailing funds to an organization with this
> much turmoil going on.

>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -Ted
>
I am shocked to find out that there is actually someone who believes what he
reads!

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From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:51:56 +0200
Subject: Re: Omnigami...

Marc Kirschenbaum schrieb:
> Loads of aliens out there. Most non-successful people models are
> redesignated as aliens.

A while back, I failed at designing a Puppeteer as described by Larry
Niven in his 'Ringworld' books. I got as far as having three legs and
the torso in one paper, and two heads in the other paper. Then I gave
up. Maybe I should have called it 'decapitated puppeteer' ?

Matthias





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:53:17 +0200
Subject: Re: Omnigami...

Joseph Wu schrieb:
> >My question is this; What has NOT been folded yet?
>
> My standard answer: smoke.

Yes, I remember that answer. I think clouds came up, too. However, with
the very advanced folding techniques discovered by Vincent Floderer and
used in his mushrooms, it is now possible to fold a very convincing
cloud. And if you soak it, it will even rain! Can't get more realistic
than that.

All the best,
Matthias





From: Bill Clarke <llib@COMPUTER.ORG>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:47:10 +1000
Subject: Re: TreeMaker on a MacEmulator for PC or Linux or NeXT..or whatever...

g'day ariel et al,

Ariel wrote:
[...running TreeMaker on a Mac emulator...]

i have recently (today) downloaded TreeMaker 3.6 and played around on it
just fine for a few hours, running MAE (Apple's Macintosh Application
Environment, version 3.0) on Solaris 2.6.  So it's possible, but i would
guess that MAE costs money.

MAE claims to emulate: Motorola 68LC040 CPU and Macintosh System 7.5.3
and 32-bit color QuickDraw and up to 24-bit color, if supported by the X
server.

i had a little problem with TreeMaker 3.6 running out of space
(something like "!(TooMany < 100)") when doing something rather large
[triangulating a large tree]).  TreeMaker hung MAE and i had to kill
it.  otherwise i found it quite good.  options to turn off regular
displaying of the tree while optimising (i would guess this may slow
optimising down) and to interrupt optimising would be good too (this may
be already there, but command-"." didn't work for me, but that may be
MAE's fault).

hopefully i can test TreeMaker 4 with MAE soon.

cheers,
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From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:40:41 -0700
Subject: Re: TreeMaker on a MacEmulator for PC or Linux or NeXT..or whatever...

At 04:40 PM 4/14/99 +0200, Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>  wrote:
>            I would like to get Treemaker , the famous moose designing
>application,  to run on a MacEMulator.
>
>
>http://www.ardi.com/   ( here you can find PC and Linux Mac Emulators)

Yes, I have used The Executor demo program from this site. While the
software seems to be excelent, there is only limited functionality
available for the Tremaker program. I got frusterated, and have not looked
at it in a year. I do remember I was able to open up the sample files and
modify them, so I doubt it is any of the algorithm routines that are
causing all of the trouble.

Marc





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:44:26 -0700
Subject: Re: Omnigami...

At 09:01 PM 4/14/99 +0100, rikki donachie <rikki@EDNET.CO.UK>  wrote:
?
>
>1. A typical "grey" space alien, complete with arms, legs and large
>almond shaped black eyes.(flying saucer optional)
Loads of aliens out there. Most non-successful people models are
redesignated as aliens.

>2. A movable "Anglepoise" lamp.
Sorry, I have not seen that one.

>3. The M. C. Escher Manbird, to be seen in 'Still Life with Spherical
>Mirror' and 'Other World'.
Not sure about this, but Jeremy Shafer has tackled some Escher PIeces, and
Nick Robinson has done loads of tessalations.

>4. A complete chess set (black & white chequered board compulsory!)

Kim Best did one with pieces that could be formed in any playing position
(so models could be made of famous end plays). The board simmulates colour
though different dolded textures (very effective from foil). That is the
only one piece model I know of, but there are plenty of models of
individual pieces/boards out there.
Marc





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:45:12 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Politics

At 10:24 AM 4/15/99 -0400, Theodore Andrew Brown III <screwed@TIAC.NET> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of an Origami organization or club of some sort in the
> greater New England area? (I'm in north eastern Massachusetts)

If you check OrigamiUSA's webpage www.origami-usa.org, there is a listing of
local groups.

Marc





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:37:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Origami Politics

> Theodore Andrew Brown III wrote:

> I'm new to origami and very interested in the art.
>
> But SHOCKED with what I'm reading about OUSA!
> And I do not feel comfortable mailing funds to an organization
> with this much turmoil going on.

Hey don't let it bother you volunteer organizations like OUSA
live in a constant state of turmoil, but they have never lost a
check or failed to fill any order I ever made to 'em.  So if you
wanted to order something (and right now they have just reduced
the prices on 2 more annuals) go ahead, I feel certain it will be
OK.

Perry (who just made an order and needs next month to send in
membership monies again)

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From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:56:42 -0700 (
Subject: Re: hello

My other interests are puzzles, listening to music, and sometimes
lyric writing.
I think that the most impressive thing about origami is that we can
use a simple piece of paper to fold something that is
so....dimensional(is that the right word?)
I am very eager to learn how to make the objects of origami that can
move, because I have been doing only the origami units.

Wing
>Welcome to the fold, Wing.  What are some of your other interests?
>And what interests you most about origami?
>Please reply via my e mail address if you don't want it on the list.
>
>Curious Ria   ^   ^
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From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:16:50 -0700 (
Subject: Re: Sv: hello

Thank you Ria!  Joseph Wu's page was the first origami page I
haveeven been to online.  I think that it has a lot of good diagrams
and I am doing the objects when I have time =-)
Wing

>From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: Sv: hello
>Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:34:52 -0700
>
>At 12:31 PM 4/13/99 PDT, you wrote:
>>Hello, I am sorry, I should have mentioned that I prefer to be
called
>>Wing.
>>Thank you for the site to see the diagrams.  I think that I can
learn
>>more objects.
>>Do you know any sites where there are diagrams in DPF (or is it PFD
>>or PDF?)format?  I also would like to know if there is any object
>>which is folded with dollar bill money, because that way I do not
>>need special measured papers. thank you
>>Wing
>>
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>Wing:
>There are some sites just for money folds.  Just go to Joseph Wu's
>page and under links USA, I think you will find some.
>Ria
>

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From: Tiffany Tam <origamiwing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:27:10 -0700 (
Subject: a question

I was reading the mail from the mailing list and read about a
something something conventional boook, can anyone please explain to
me what it is?  Is there any diagrams in it? Thank you!
Wing

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