




From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1999 15:02:46 -0500
Subject: Re: truncated Dodecahedron

>>     Hi, I have been working with a double triangular unit built like a
>>Sonobe unit.  It has the advantage of being folded from half a square, and
>>has a locking unit which can be folded under from the top.  This helps to
>>keep the ball together as it is being built and is partidularly helpful at
>>the end when the contact with the ball is only from the outside.  The one
>>shortcoming in working with triangular units is that the pentagon is either
>>stellated (peaked ) or depressed rather than flat.    For a ball a
>>depressed position is better than the peaked one because one can see the
>>pentagon.
>>     The bucky ball has been described as a truncated icosahedon, and it is
>>possible to visualize flat pentagons and hexagons being cut off to produce
>>bucky balls.  It can also be viewed as a truncated dodecahedron.....
>>...
>>James M. Sakoda, web page:
>>http://idt.net/~kittyv
>
>Actually, the truncated dodecahedron is a somewhat different, but also very
>beautiful solid - it has 12 decagons and 20 small triangles.  If you start
>with a dodecahedron, you can "cut off" each vertex with a plane
>perpendicular to the line from the center through that vertex.  As these
>planes move toward the center, you get, in this order, a truncated
>dodecahedron (12 decagons, 20 triangles); a dodeca-icosahedron (12
>pentagons, 20 triangles); a truncated icosahedron (12 pentagons, 20
>hexagons); and finally an icosahedron (20 triangles).  A little tricky to
>visualize, I know.... drawing pictures of it is a good exercise, though.
>
>-stephen Canon
>Stephen_Canon@brown.edu
Dear Stephen, Thanks for setting me straight.  I see that my difficulty is
that what I refer to as a pentagon is actually a stellated pentagon and not
a flat one.  I probably should have referred to the bucky ball as a
truncated stellated dodecahdron.  When the center is truncated or simply
depressed inward as I have done the net result is 12 smaller stellated
pentagons  surrounded by 30 hexagons, which are made up of the remainder of
the stellated pentagons.    Since I operate in a world based on triangular
units I am forced to  represent pentagons with stellated or depressed on.
Than ks for the information.  James M. Sakoda.





From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:57:15 +0200
Subject: Origami  from Angelfish to Zen

If the only information you want is the ISBN of the reprint you don't
need to read further: ISBN 0-486-28138-8

And here's some rambling about the book.  Some people might even find
it interesting.

I have mixed feelings about the book.  I love to have it, but I fold
very little from it.  The introductory part is really worth reading
and definitely makes you think.  I like some models in the book,
especially the hummingbird, but find some others way too complicated
compared to the end result.  Having the text separated from diagrams
also makes it more difficult to follow the diagrams.

About the giraffe in the book:  I browsed thru the diagrams and then
folded the model without much assistance to the book.  It's very
logical model, probably one of those you remember very easily once you
remember how to start.  It gets a bit thick in the end, so I would
wet-fold it if I were to fold it from thicker paper.  I have folded
one miniature from pearlized paper (feels like plastic on one side)
which needed a drop of g**e in the neck to keep it from spreading it's
front legs.

To have something to compare Engel's giraffe against, I folded
Yoshizawa's giraffe from Origami Museum 1.  I guess I haven't folded
enough of his models lately as the result wasn't too satisfactory.
Then again, I can fold several of them in the time it takes to fold
one Engel giraffe (which on the other hand ended up as the second best
of it's kind, losing only to the above miniature.)

I thought the book was a bit pricey when I bought it (bookstore prices
in Finland are generally 50-100% higher than the ones calculated with
exchange rates) but I haven't regreted buying it a moment.

--
Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

Weyland-Yutani - Building Better Worlds





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 21:49:33 -0500
Subject: Re: "Bucky ball" completed

>Casida Mark wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As a chemist, of course I've been following the discussion
>> thread regarding bucky balls.  It occurred to me that there
>> is one aspect of "bucky ball chemistry" (the technical name
>> is "fullerines" after Buckminsterfuller, the inventor of the
>> geodesic dome) which might be amenable to origamic
>> investigation --- namely that the stability of fullerine
>> structures is related to the presence of pentagons.  I can't
>> go into this too deeply (because I don't know too much about
>> this aspect of the problem) but hexagons joined together will
>> tile a plain.  Making the hexagons fold around into a sphere
>> or American football or other closed figure in a geometrically
>> stable way requires the introduction of shapes other than
>> hexagons.  Some fullerine stuctures involve squares and/or
>> heptagons --- but it is the structures with well placed
>> pentagons which lead to special stability.  Can anyone add
>> anything?  Tom Hull from the math end?  Other chemist folders
>> out there?  (I think that Buckminsterfuller may have written
>> on this subject.)
>>
>>                    Have a nice day,
>>                          Mark
>> --
>> *-------------------------------------------------------*
>> |          Mark E. Casida                               |
>> |                  Mark.Casida@umontreal.ca             |
>> *-------------------------------------------------------*
>Mark,
>As a person who lives in a geodesic dome, I can confirm what you are
>saying about the presence of hexagons and pentagons. The hexagons, as
>opposed to squares, yield a much rounder figure. if you use a five
>repeater(on the hex) you will be quite satisfied with the results. The
>dimensions on the hex are equal lateral triangles. the pentagons require
>the same dimension as the side of the hex that connects and slightly
>longer sides. Good luck with your project.... Deborah Van Treuren
     Hi, I have been working with a double triangular unit built like a
Sonobe unit.  It has the advantage of being folded from half a square, and
has a locking unit which can be folded under from the top.  This helps to
keep the ball together as it is being built and is partidularly helpful at
the end when the contact with the ball is only from the outside.  The one
shortcoming in working with triangular units is that the pentagon is either
stellated (peaked ) or depressed rather than flat.    For a ball a
depressed position is better than the peaked one because one can see the
pentagon.
     The bucky ball has been described as a truncated icosahedon, and it is
possible to visualize flat pentagons and hexagons being cut off to produce
bucky balls.  It can also be viewed as a truncated dodecahedron.  The
dodecahedron is made of 12 pentagons with a central pentagon sorrounded by
5 identical pentagons on the upper half of the ball and six below it,
making 12 in all.  One can put together five paired triangular units to
which is added a unit on eadh side to form a larger pentagon made up of 10
units.  The top five triangles can be depressd to form a small pentagon.
Each side of the larger pentagon consists of 3 triangles making up half a
hexagon.  When the center larger pentagon is surrounded by five others just
like it, the half a hexagon comes together with one just like it to form a
hexagon.  The net result is that the outline of the larger pentagon tends
to be obscured by the prominent hexagons but it is there nonetheless.
There are six pentagon combinations on top and 6 in the lower half.  This
makes 12 in all, as one would expect from a dodedahedron.  Since eadh one
is made of 10 triangular units in all, 120 double triangular  units are
required for the bucky ball.   A picture of it can be found in both Tomoko
Fuse's Unit Origami and in Kunihiko Kasahara'a Omnibus.  Both use flat
pentagons and hexagons whidh are put together with special connectors
inserted into the sides.  The advantage of the flat units is that the
surface is free of many lines and are free of mixture of colors from
adjacent pieces if different colors are used.  Still there is satisfaction
in  being able to make a large complex ball from single units made up of
two triangles and two connecter units, all equal lateral triangles.   James
M. Sakoda, web page:
http://idt.net/~kittyv





From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:45:35 -0500 (
Subject: Re: How to make friends ?  (was Re: Origami for the Masses)

Jean-Jerome wrote:

> The problem with Peter Engel's models is that they lack "life",
> they lack the artistic touch.  They seems to have been designed by
> a engineer.

Actually, they were designed by an architect.

I happen to be quite fond of Peter's butterfly. It was the first butterfly
with "all the parts." His timing was propitious, because many years ago I had
written in my BOS column something to the effect that no one would ever put
legs and antennae on a butterfly model, and shortly thereafter, I received a
copy of Peter's diagrams (this was before his book came out). At the time, it
was the hardest model I had ever folded. More recent models have since
surpassed it in this particular measure (which is not to say that difficulty
is necessarily a desirable attribute, but it does increase one's appreciation
of the final result). The design is quite unforgiving of errors along the way.
And although I've since come up with 3 or 4 "butterflies with parts" of my
own, I still like Peter's best for overall balance and elegance of structure.

Robert J. Lang





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 00:01:36 -0800
Subject: Re: How to make friends ?  (was Re: Origami for the Masses)

>> The problem with Peter Engel's models is that they lack "life",
>> they lack the artistic touch.  They seems to have been designed by
>> a engineer.
>
>Actually, they were designed by an architect.
>
That's what I think when I look at a ribosome





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 01:22:43 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Appearance on Aleenes Creative Living

For anyone who is interested, I will be on the Aleenes Creative Living Show on
April 19, l999 with a repeat of the show I was on last August.  I show how to
make the $6 dollar bill rose and am marketing my video tape "Origami Money
Folding" which features this rose and 15 money folds. It will be on TNN, the
Nashville station and you will have to look up the time.    Dorigami





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 02:56:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Diagramming

At 07:43 PM 3/24/99 +0100, you wrote:
>Peter,
>At 00.37 24/3/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>Joseph Wu wrote:
>>
>>>Oh, so I guess it's too late for me. I don't have diagrams ...
>>undocumented. >And yet I can remember how to fold most of them.
>>
>>Than it means it's not too late! ;-)  I wanna buy your book!
>
>As far as I understand, if you want to fold the "undocumented" you have to
>buy Joseph in flesh and brain, not the book...... ;)

The 'wanna buy your book' is an encouragement for Joseph to publish one!

Happy folding,

Peter Budai





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:04:02 -0800
Subject: Re: Folding the Universe

I was wondering about references to a reprint of Peter Engel's book. I have
the original printing, but my copy is fairly well used and showing its wear.
Is the reprint true to the original, cover art, intro and all? I'd love to
see it--been thinking of rebinding the old one--but there is a dearth of
origami books in the shops I haunt, or at least I have whatever they do.





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:47:36 +0000
Subject: flapper diagrams at BOS site

There's seems to be a lot of interest over diagrams for the flapping
bird, so I've put some up at the BOS web site. They are taken from a
forthcoming "BOS starter pack" booklet that I've put together, so are
designed to be facing A5 pages. All you need to do is print both images
out, then place them side by side.

If I find time, I'll relay them into "standard" format. Oh yes, they are
light on text, as is my wont. Go to the site, click "folding", the
"flapping bird".

hope this proves useful...

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos





From: Emily Brunson <janissa@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 10:45:23 -0500
Subject: Intro

A quick hello from a newcomer--I'm Emily, new to origami but very
enthusiastic.  :)  I'm in New Jersey--a writer and magazine editor by
trade, so I guess it's that lifelong fascination with paper coming to the
fore...

I'm very much looking forward to learning more!

Best,
Em





From: Stephen Canon <Stephen_Canon@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 13:52:06 -0500
Subject: Re: "Bucky ball" completed

>     Hi, I have been working with a double triangular unit built like a
>Sonobe unit.  It has the advantage of being folded from half a square, and
>has a locking unit which can be folded under from the top.  This helps to
>keep the ball together as it is being built and is partidularly helpful at
>the end when the contact with the ball is only from the outside.  The one
>shortcoming in working with triangular units is that the pentagon is either
>stellated (peaked ) or depressed rather than flat.    For a ball a
>depressed position is better than the peaked one because one can see the
>pentagon.
>     The bucky ball has been described as a truncated icosahedon, and it is
>possible to visualize flat pentagons and hexagons being cut off to produce
>bucky balls.  It can also be viewed as a truncated dodecahedron.....
>...
>James M. Sakoda, web page:
>http://idt.net/~kittyv

Actually, the truncated dodecahedron is a somewhat different, but also very
beautiful solid - it has 12 decagons and 20 small triangles.  If you start
with a dodecahedron, you can "cut off" each vertex with a plane
perpendicular to the line from the center through that vertex.  As these
planes move toward the center, you get, in this order, a truncated
dodecahedron (12 decagons, 20 triangles); a dodeca-icosahedron (12
pentagons, 20 triangles); a truncated icosahedron (12 pentagons, 20
hexagons); and finally an icosahedron (20 triangles).  A little tricky to
visualize, I know.... drawing pictures of it is a good exercise, though.

-stephen Canon
Stephen_Canon@brown.edu





From: =?iso-8859-1?B?VEhPUktJTEQgU9hOREVSR8VSRA==?= <thokiyenn@GET2NET.DK>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 17:39:18 +0100
Subject: Sv:      Intro

Dear Emily Brunson

wellcome to the Origami List

and a big

Wellcome to the Universe of Origami.

Paper is alive and Origami is a Life

Greetings from

Thoki Yenn
e-mail: thok@thok.dk
Please have a look at: www.thok.dk





From: Larry Finch <LarryFinch@AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:31:15 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Folding the Universe

In a message dated 3/27/1999 12:03:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ella-
mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM writes:

> I was wondering about references to a reprint of Peter Engel's book. I have
>  the original printing, but my copy is fairly well used and showing its
wear.
>  Is the reprint true to the original, cover art, intro and all? I'd love to
>  see it--been thinking of rebinding the old one--but there is a dearth of
>  origami books in the shops I haunt, or at least I have whatever they do.
>

I believe the Intro is the same, but the cover is completely different.

Larry





From: "John E. Clark" <jeclark@CAMALOTT.COM>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 00:58:00 -0600
Subject: Re: Apologies

No Apology necessary.  I thought it very funny.  So good, I sent it to a
German friend of mine.  He loved it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Venables <davevenables@USA.NET>
To: <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 4:49 PM
Subject: Apologies

> My Eurospeak email was unintentionally sent to the list. My apologies.
>
> Dave
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1





From: Cathy <cathypl@GENERATION.NET>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:44:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Apologies N

At 03:49 PM 99-03-27 MST, you wrote:
>My Eurospeak email was unintentionally sent to the list. My apologies.
>
>Dave

Dave, I for one, laughed myself silly.  As a teacher, I am always looking
for things to make spelling classes a little more fun, and as it happens I
have a Geman-speaking friend who's going to love it.

                                                Cathy
******^^^^^*****^^^^^*****

Cathy Palmer-Lister
Ste. Julie, Quebec
Canada
cathypl@generation.net





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:02:18 +0100
Subject: Re: What is it good for

Hello

Firstly I would like to apologise for joining a thread this late, but my
PC has been out of commission for some time.

"What is it good for?" is a question that I have been asked on a number
of occasions although usually as "What use is it?", or 'Very nice dear,
but what are you going to do with it now?'

My usual answer these days is "I don't care, I just enjoy folding!".

More seriously though, if I am pressed for an answer I have to state
that, other than some slight contribution to digital dexterity and
spatial awareness, the answer is that it has no use whatsoever. It is
good for nothing.

I can see people bridling at this and getting ready to start angry
emails about mathematics, education and therapy. My argument is that
these benefits are there if you want to pursue them, but they are not
intrinsic to paper folding. You won't become better at maths simply by
spending time folding paper. Nor will you automatically become more
sedate or relaxed (try folding a Lang Insect, that'll get the blood
pressure soaring!)

On the practical issue, it must be admitted that there are very few
pieces of practical origami and most of those are containers of some
sort. Generally speaking, a finished origami model is purely ornamental.
It therefore has the same practical value as any piece of adornment i.e.
none! Asking what practical use it is just silly. You might as well ask
what use any form of art has, whether it is painting, sculpture or
music.

The answer is none, you just enjoy it.

If people say 'but it's just a piece of coloured paper', well so are
most of Turner's watercolours. The 'Mona Lisa' is a chunk of wood with
paint on it. So is my front gate! On an even stranger level you could
argue that football has no practical use. It's just a game. Yet many
people gain enjoyment from it and most of them aren't even
participating!

It's my belief that the reason that people ask 'What good is origami' is
because origami suffers from low esteem. It is regarded as a hobby for
young children and anyone folding paper who is older than about 12 is
treated with condescension or even regarded as unhinged. Anyone fond of
reading children's fiction will recognise this treatment.

As far as general society is concerned, origami is simply not an
acceptable or respectable hobby for an adult.

Whether this is their problem or ours I will leave open to debate.

        Dennis Walker (Still folding, still reading Harry Potter books and not
caring what people think!)





From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:46:59 -0800 (
Subject: Re: What is it good for

Sorry about the length, but I couldn't decide which parts to cut out.

>Hello
>
>Firstly I would like to apologise for joining a thread this late, but
my
>PC has been out of commission for some time.

I'll speak for myself...  No problem; I do it all the time.  :-)
>
>"What is it good for?" is a question that I have been asked on a number
>of occasions although usually as "What use is it?", or 'Very nice dear,
>but what are you going to do with it now?'
>
>My usual answer these days is "I don't care, I just enjoy folding!".
>
Same here.

>More seriously though, if I am pressed for an answer I have to state
>that, other than some slight contribution to digital dexterity and
>spatial awareness, the answer is that it has no use whatsoever. It is
>good for nothing.
>
>I can see people bridling at this and getting ready to start angry
>emails about mathematics, education and therapy. My argument is that
>these benefits are there if you want to pursue them, but they are not
>intrinsic to paper folding. You won't become better at maths simply by
>spending time folding paper. Nor will you automatically become more
>sedate or relaxed (try folding a Lang Insect, that'll get the blood
>pressure soaring!)
Here's where I'll start to disagree...  Because of origami, I can safely
say that I have a _much_ better grasp of geometry than most people my
age.
>
>On the practical issue, it must be admitted that there are very few
>pieces of practical origami and most of those are containers of some
>sort. Generally speaking, a finished origami model is purely
ornamental.
>It therefore has the same practical value as any piece of adornment
i.e.
>none! Asking what practical use it is just silly. You might as well ask
>what use any form of art has, whether it is painting, sculpture or
>music.
>
>The answer is none, you just enjoy it.
>
>If people say 'but it's just a piece of coloured paper', well so are
>most of Turner's watercolours. The 'Mona Lisa' is a chunk of wood with
>paint on it. So is my front gate! On an even stranger level you could
>argue that football has no practical use. It's just a game. Yet many
>people gain enjoyment from it and most of them aren't even
>participating!

Well said.

>It's my belief that the reason that people ask 'What good is origami'
is
>because origami suffers from low esteem. It is regarded as a hobby for
>young children and anyone folding paper who is older than about 12 is
>treated with condescension or even regarded as unhinged. Anyone fond of
>reading children's fiction will recognise this treatment.

More and more, I notice that _everyone_ thinks everyone _else_ is nuts!
On another note, I get far more "Whoa, cool!"'s than pitiful looks
saying "Why the heck do you do that?".  Although children's fiction puts
me to sleep...  :-)

>As far as general society is concerned, origami is simply not an
>acceptable or respectable hobby for an adult.

I dunno, seems to me more adults do it (as a serious hobby) than
children.  Are any members of this list under 12?

>Whether this is their problem or ours I will leave open to debate.
>
>        Dennis Walker (Still folding, still reading Harry Potter books
and not
>caring what people think!)

Dolphin

Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com





From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:49:58 -0600
Subject: looking for a reason

What's it good for!

How about saying this next time.

"Do you really need a reason?"
or"I just do"
or "What the (insert favorite expletives) do you care"
or "If I didn't fold people wouldn't have any stupid questions to ask."
or " I use them to trap the souls of my enemies"
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Marcus Hanson's Digital Gallery
http://www.members.tripod.com/~MarcH_3/index.html
-----------------------------------------------------------------
"To know is nothing at all, to imagine is everything"
                                                - Anatoole France -





From: Casida Mark <casida@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:00:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Sv:      Re: What is it good for

Origami is good for :

   -> amusing small children
   -> amusing adults
   -> amusing me

   -> creating
   -> sharing
   -> rekindling your sense of wonder

   -> having fun with paper
   -> appreciating the difference between different papers
   -> understanding why not every origami model needs to
      be anatomically correct
   -> the challenge of making every origami model anatomically correct

   -> (I've left space for you to add something here)

                        ciao,

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|                  Mark.Casida@umontreal.ca             |





From: Russell Sutherland <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:03:15 -0500 (
Subject: Re: What is it good for

In a message dated 3/28/99 2:01:42 PM Central Standard Time,
TheWalkers@INAME.COM writes:

<< As far as general society is concerned, origami is simply not an
 acceptable or respectable hobby for an adult.

 Whether this is their problem or ours I will leave open to debate.

         Dennis Walker (Still folding, still reading Harry Potter books and
not
 caring what people think!)
  >>

Who cares  about what society may deem "worthy" of acceptance.  It goes back
to casting pearls before swine.    I don't share my work with those who aren't
interested... ( why bother?). I like to think that I don't need society's
approval... I fold for myself.  I feel I get adequate return_on_investment
with my origami...  whether it be through money, therapy, or simply receiving
the pleasure of sharing my art. If I can make a connection with someone who
really understands that  [origami]  is more than just a children's ( or
adult's) hobby, and that it is indeed art in the truest definition, I consider
it a bonus.  BTW, what have you been folding?

I am working on a couple of origami book proposals right now.  I am a Senior
at the University of Texas at San Antonio majoring in technical
communications.  I have been able to incorporate my knowledge of origami and
my folding expertise into several major projects... in classes such as WWW,
commercial publications, research methods, technical writing, specialized
professional writing, professional presentations... etc.  I now have my
business registered, a complete and updated press kit for my business,
"publishable" research,  PowerPoint presentaions... complete with animations
of origami, a website featured as the EXAMPLE of a final project on the
university's server for the WWW class I took, I have exhibited at the
University's gallery, and have been provided sponsorship for a major project
that I am working on. I use it to gain skills in other areas... although I
have been able to focus my attention on the practical aspect of origami as a
business rather than just a hobby.  I guess it just boils down to one's
motivation for folding.

If you fold it, they will come.

Russell Sutherland AKA: Lone Folder

DARE TO FOLD!!!!!!!!!!





From: "Mr A.S. Malik" <2staron@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:17:13 -0500
Subject: What is it good for?

Well I find that Origami to be fun, and if others don't like this
art then they can go and do something else.
I have been doing Origami for about 29 years and to date find
that there will be always some new fold to interest me.
If it helps people to understand Maths then great, if it helps
them relax then even better, but on the whole it is fun and thats
all.

Asghar (Ash) Malik.   2staron@compuserve.com





From: "John E. Clark" <jeclark@CAMALOTT.COM>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 20:05:40 -0600
Subject: What is it good for

As a nurse, I know exactly what origami is good for.

people that suffer from arthirtis, like me, use it to limber up their
fingers.  It adds fine motor skills to the youth.  It relieves stress for
many.  It help keeps older people's minds working to solve problems.  The
social aspects are, people share.  Sharing strengthens social bonds.
Friendship adds to a healthier life.  There are many other reasons for what
it is good for.  These are just some of what I know from a medical side.

John





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:45:57 -1000
Subject: Re: Sv:      Re: What is it good for

Casida Mark wrote:
>
> Origami is good for :
>
>    -> amusing small children
>    -> amusing adults
>    -> amusing me
>
>    -> creating
>    -> sharing
>    -> rekindling your sense of wonder
>
>    -> having fun with paper
>    -> appreciating the difference between different papers
>    -> understanding why not every origami model needs to
>       be anatomically correct
>    -> the challenge of making every origami model anatomically correct
>
>
        -good for:
        -bribing children to finish other work
--      -yes it can be used to teach geometry not just to get a sense of
geometry, which it does.
        -developes visual and auditory skills when being taught by someone else
        -provides me with my income...I sell origami jewelry full time.
        -been admired rather than thought of as childish
        -expanded my contact worldwide
aloha, Jan
<http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:46:08 -1000
Subject: Origami flower

horsley wrote:
>
> Hi there
> I tripped over your site this morning (Australian time) and I have
> fallen in love with oragami!
> I am wondering if it is possible to put the diagram of an oragami flower
> on the net soon (my girlfriends birthday is coming up in a few week...I
> understand if this is not possible)
> Thanks
> Silas {}{}

Anyone with a flower diagrammed on their website?  We have a taker!
Thank you, Jan
--
<http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 23:13:58 -0600
Subject: Re: What is it good for?

It makes playing Godzilla in Tokyo much more affordable!!!

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: =?iso-8859-1?B?VEhPUktJTEQgU9hOREVSR8VSRA==?= <thokiyenn@GET2NET.DK>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 23:20:03 +0200
Subject: Sv:      Re: What is it good for

What is Origami good for ?

It is good for me.

Thoki Yenn

www.thok-dk

thok@thok.dk

and for me

The great and glorious Kalmon van Balticum.





From: "Deborah P. Van Treuren" <deborahv@N-JCENTER.COM>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 23:38:25 -0500
Subject: Re: What is it good for?

Mr A.S. Malik wrote:
>
> Well I find that Origami to be fun, and if others don't like this
> art then they can go and do something else.
> I have been doing Origami for about 29 years and to date find
> that there will be always some new fold to interest me.
> If it helps people to understand Maths then great, if it helps
> them relax then even better, but on the whole it is fun and thats
> all.
>
> Asghar (Ash) Malik.   2staron@compuserve.com

What is Origami good for? Well, let's ponder the question from the
standpoint that it is art and everyone sees something different and
wonderous in art, no matter what the form it takes. Personally, I find
that origami is relaxing and challenging and stimulating all at once.
The satisfaction I get from a few simple folds of paper that can be
shared has value beyond material concerns. It opens a world that is
unique, a secret place where one is free to create, free to lose oneself
in if only for a brief time. My love affair with origami has lasted for
35 years and expect that to continue for quite a long time!
Deborah Van Treuren deborahv@n-jcenter.com





From: RPlsmn@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 00:26:48 -0500 (
Subject: Re: What is it good for

the wonder of it all. being integral to the transformation of a 2 dimemtional
square of paper into a whatever the heart stopping 3 dimentional (or quasi 3
dimentional) model is; is one of the activities approaching creation.   I
don't know if it's art, but I like it.
                                                                            rg
rplsmn





From: good man <jess2800@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 05:08:50 -0500
Subject: Re: What is it good for

Oh Pooh

Why does everything have to be functional

Why can't it just be





From: Mark Morden <marmonk@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:01:33 -0800
Subject: Update on Origami in the Pacific NW

Our Seattle area group PAPER (Puget Area Paperfolding Enthusiasts Roundtable)
     has been quite busy lately.  This is an announcement on upcoming
     activities for those out there who are interested.  Please email me at the
     address at the bottom of the page for
 more information about this items.

1.  Let's start with our PAPER meeting.  It will be Sunday April 11, from 1-4
     pm at the University Heights Community Center.  We will be in our usual
     room: 110.  We will have a model or two to teach everyone and then break
     off into smaller folding groups.

2.  PAPER has been asked back to the Seattle Cherry Blossom Festival in April.
     The dates are Friday April 16 through Sunday April 18.  Similar to last
     year, we will be able to display our works and share folding with the
     visitors.  If you are interested
 n participating, please let me know so I can include you on the email list
     when announcements are sent out.

3.  On Sunday, April 4, PAPER will be mentioned in an article in the Seattle
     Times.   A reporter talked with me yesterday about our group.  She is
     working on a story about paper airplane classes at the Museum of Flight (I
     think that is the subject.)  Info
 mation about PAPER will be included in the article to let readers know about
     other origami opportunities.

4.  In early March, PAPER participated in the Seattle Asian Art Museum's "First
     Saturday" program.  These are free events that highlight different aspects
     of Asian culture.  We have been asked back for an encore in July.  We will
     also be having our monthl
  PAPER meeting at SAAM on Sunday, June 13th.

5.  PAPER has been asked to participate in an event at the Seattle Arboretum:
     Origami in the Japanese Garden, on Sunday May 2.  At our April 11 meeting
     we will talk about who will want to participate and what we will be doing.

In addition to all this, PAPER is hosting ORCA - Origami Regional Conference of
     America, which is being produced by Origami Northwest.  The conference
     will be August 13-15.  For more information about that visit the ORCA web
     site:  http://www.eskimo.com/~
 rca

Mark Morden == marmonk@eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
--------------------------------------------------------
There is love in the red letters
There is truth in the red letters
There is hope for the hopeless
Peace and forgiveness
There is life in the red letters
                dcTalk, "Red Letters"





From: Arlene Anderson <aanderso@BCPL.NET>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:07:51 -0500
Subject: Re: What is it good for?

The objects that I find on tabletops to bat across the floor and down the
stairs-
Neat, pretty paper to stretch out on to "help" fold-
Butterflies that flutter and airplanes that zoom-

Bitsy (Little Bit the cat)





From: Roman Snytsar <rsnytsar@VRPILOTS.COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:49:02 +0400
Subject: Re: What is it good for

Origami inspires me for the creation of amazing VRML objects.
They consist of small number of polygons but looks good
because of intrinsic harmony of the origami designs.

I've just started to put them on the Web at
http://www.vrpilots.com/origami/jurassic/

Please take a look.

Regards,

Roman Snytsar rsnytsar@vrpilots.com

VR Pilots Corp. http://www.vrpilots.com
Virtual Galaxy, Origami Jurassic Park and more





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 14:49:37 +0200
Subject: Re: What is it good for?

Dennis Walker wrote:
>More seriously though, if I am pressed for an answer I have to state
>that, other than some slight contribution to digital dexterity and
>spatial awareness, the answer is that it has no use whatsoever. It is
>good for nothing.
I think this is a very good approach. In today's world, where everything
has to be useful and productive, we need more people that spend their
time with things that are 'good for nothing'. I've noticed that when I
started teaching origami, and selling my models, I thought that I should
only fold things I could teach or sell. Although I did discover many new
models, it narrowed my view of origami, and it reduced a model to its
'usefulness' for teaching or selling.

>As far as general society is concerned, origami is simply not an
>acceptable or respectable hobby for an adult.

When I sit in the bus folding paper, people sometimes look at me with
that 'special' look reserved for junkies, drunks, and mentally ill.
Maybe they think I'm rolling a very elaborate joint :-).

> Dennis Walker
I lost the URL for your homepage, please post it.

Matthias Gutfeldt
tanjit@bboxbbs.ch





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:11:05 +0100
Subject: Re: What is it good for?

Arlene Anderson wrote:
>
> The objects that I find on tabletops to bat across the floor and down the
> stairs-
> Neat, pretty paper to stretch out on to "help" fold-
> Butterflies that flutter and airplanes that zoom-
>
> Bitsy (Little Bit the cat)

Ok! You got me! I also find origami good for making cat toys. They even
like playing with my rejects.

                                Dennis





From: Mark and Theresa <mark@HOBBITON.FORCE9.NET>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:18:11 +0100
Subject: Traditional Phoenix

In "Origami Omnibus" there is a picture of a trad fold - the Phoenix. It
is based on a crane with a long pleated tail. Kasahara states it can be
folded from a square of thin paper. Does anyone know where I can find
folding instructions for it?

Oh, and thanks to all those who suggested easy crucifixes (crucifices?).
I have decided on the "St. Georges Cross on a shield" type approach,
maybe using harmony paper with stonger colours towards the corners -
this gives a halo affect. I may also do a chick and a bunny to pad out
the time!

--
Mark





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:59:10 +0100
Subject: Sv: Re: What is it good for

My biggest gain from taking up origami has been some wonderful friends
all round the world. If paper vanished tomorrow, I'd still have the
friendship.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:30:17 -0800
Subject: Re: What is it good for?  ATTN: OUSA

It would be wonderful to see a wall at Convention'99 in NY with these
comments printed out and perhaps blank paper for folks to add their own
comments!

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson     : - )
madawson@sprynet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: What is it good for?

>Arlene Anderson wrote:
>>
>> The objects that I find on tabletops to bat across the floor and down the
>> stairs-
>> Neat, pretty paper to stretch out on to "help" fold-
>> Butterflies that flutter and airplanes that zoom-
>>
>> Bitsy (Little Bit the cat)
>
>Ok! You got me! I also find origami good for making cat toys. They even
>like playing with my rejects.
>
>
>                                Dennis





From: Deg Farrelly <DEG.FARRELLY@ASU.EDU>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:59:40 -0700
Subject: Additional Easter models to teach with the Crucifix

Mark writes:

<<Date:    Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:18:11 +0100
From:    Mark and Theresa <mark@HOBBITON.FORCE9.NET>

Oh, and thanks to all those who suggested easy crucifixes (crucifices?).
I have decided on the "St. Georges Cross on a shield" type approach,
maybe using harmony paper with stonger colours towards the corners -
this gives a halo affect. I may also do a chick and a bunny to pad out
the time!

--
Mark>>

As long as you are teaching the crucifix, why not teach origami boulders
too?
("And they rolled a stone in front of the tomb")

Origami boulders are made by crumpling up a piece of paper into a ball.

deg farrelly
Phoenix, Arizona  85029





From: Daniela Carboni <s134259@STUDENTI.ING.UNIPI.IT>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 23:11:59 +0100
Subject: Re: What is origami good for?

I feel self-realized when I do origami.

Although it seems that there are around here people that dislike
engineer-designed models ;) I feel good when I design an origami model.

It makes me feel clever.

When people say that somthing I folded is nice, I am happy.

When people say origami is a waste of time I fold more. (I fortunately
encountered very few people like that)

Daniela S. "almost engineer-graduate" Carboni. :D

/\_/\    Daniela S. Carboni
 o o     email: s134259@studenti.ing.unipi.it
= # =    http://www.fortunecity.com/rushdie/93/





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 05:00:15 -0800
Subject: Re: What is it good for?

Greetings:

Origami is good for lifting peoples' spirits.
It brings good wishes to those who need them!
Anyone who's ever gotten a thousand plus cranes
in the mail from all over the world can testify
to that!!

Ria Sutter (still stringing those cranes) ^   ^





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 05:03:03 -0800
Subject: Re: Sv: Re: What is it good for

At 12:59 PM 3/29/99 +0100, you wrote:
>My biggest gain from taking up origami has been some wonderful friends
>all round the world. If paper vanished tomorrow, I'd still have the
>friendship.
>
>
>all the best,
>
>Nick Robinson
>
>email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
>homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
>BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos
>
>
I SECOND THAT!!!





From: Mark Morden <marmonk@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:40:34 -0800
Subject: Origami Sighting - Betty comic

Monday's episode of "Betty," a comic strip by Gary Delainey and Gerry
     Rasmussen, had an origami theme.

In the first panel we see Betty walking with a book in hand and an annoyed look
     on her face.
In panel two she is holding the book up to her husband and saying, "Were you
     reading this book?"  Her husband replies, "Um, yes."
In the third panel Betty has opened the book and we see a corner of one page
     folded down.  Betty says in a scolding tone, "You folded down the corner
     to mark your page. You know how I feel about that!"  Her husband replies
     "Sorry."
In the final panel the husband is sitting alone, a little perplexed.  His
     thought bubble reads, "I thought she'd make an exception for a book about
     origami."

[insert laughter here]

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
--------------------------------------------------------
There is love in the red letters
There is truth in the red letters
There is hope for the hopeless
Peace and forgiveness
There is life in the red letters
                dcTalk, "Red Letters"





From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:36:48 +0800
Subject: Re: What is it good for?

In the days of bus conductors, I used to get on the bus one stop before the
conductors changed over - If I folded my ticket, the new conductor never
asked to check if I had paid the right fair...........(Of course I had)
Additionally, origami provided lots of simple, chewable toys for my daughter
when a baby - including a tightly sewn kusudama which lasted over a year,
and now it keeps her occupied and away form the Game Boy on occasions!

And as to classic origami diagrams for putting in with paper packs -
Takahama's yacht and the simple glider (fold square into triangle, fold
along the hypotenuse, lock each end of hypotenuse to form cylinder and then
fly!!), both found in a simple BOS booklet for beginners, are always hits
when I teach - the yacht can be used for cards (both alone and stuck on
card), mobiles and even business cards.  The other joy of these is that even
my simple brain can remember how to fold them!

Finally, ANY PERTH, Western Australian folder I haven't contacted yet should
please catch me as we are trying to form the Western Origami Wonders!!





From: Michael Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:35:52 +1000
Subject: Re: Engel book (was:how to make friends?)

Whilst wool-gathering and trying to collect my thoughts into a sensible
argument, Kim Best has fortunately not wasted any time in coming to the
defence of "Origami From Angelfish to Zen". Thankyou Kim for expressing
shared sentiments.

I also wanted to add that I think Engel models - and I guess I am thinking
about the tiger in particular, though the giraffe would also count  - are
a nice marriage of realism and stylism. The models represent forms (legs
ending in points, for example) as well
as containing an accurate numbering of body parts. For me, this blend is
most appealing.

As for the elephant, I don't fully understand the harsh criticism of
proportions. Maybe not the most graceful guy to fold, but again it seems
unfair to judge it on an anatomically correct level (leg thickness, tusk
placement etc) when this correctness may not have been foremost in the
design's purpose. Actually to my 'untrained eye' it looks fine - meaning
when I look at this model, nothing about its proportions jumps out at me
as being "off". I would have thought that some of Montroll's models would
have been more suitable candidates as lessons in anatomical incorrectness.

Thanks for listening

regards,

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Michael Janssen-Gibson                 e-mail: mig@isd.canberra.edu.au
ISD, Library                   phone/voice mail: +61 6 (06)  201 5271
University of Canberra
PO Box 1 Belconnen, ACT 2616





From: Michael Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:48:12 +1000
Subject: Origami for the Connoisseur in Aust.

Though this may seem like a strange posting to some, those of us in
Australia who know the lack of availability of good origami books in the
bookstores will (I hope) appreciate this message.

There is a copy of the above book in Dymocks Belconnen (Canberra) if
anyone was interested in purchasing, but did not want to go through the
hassle of an overseas order (or the wait ;}). A handy credit card and a
couple of bucks for postage could have this book to you in a couple of
days.

I write this as I know there are a couple of Aussie lurkers on this list -
please contact me privately for more details.

sorry for the interuption

regards

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Michael Janssen-Gibson                 e-mail: mig@isd.canberra.edu.au
ISD, Library                   phone/voice mail: +61 6 (06)  201 5271
University of Canberra
PO Box 1 Belconnen, ACT 2616





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 13:39:41 -0800
Subject: Re: Accountants (was RE;What is it good for?)

At 21:02 99/03/30 +0000, rikki donachie wrote:
>George Ho, I think your charming story has answered your own question.
>As for that little eight year old, with an attitude like that she will
>probably grow up into something like an accountant - Someone who knows
>the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

That's hardly fair to accountants! My father is an accountant (and a good
one at that) and he's one of the most creative people I know.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:10:01 -0800
Subject: [NO] Re: Accountants (was RE;What is it good for?)

At 17:07 99/03/30 -0500, D'gou wrote:
>Ok, Joseph, I couldn't resist....  "Creative Accounting" is a term I only hear
>associated with jail sentences.

Ah, but what is more creative? To simply cheat or to find legal and
innovative ways to save clients millions of dollars on taxes?

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Charles Knuffke <knuffke@SIRIUS.COM>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:11:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Additional Easter models to teach with the Crucifix

Deg Farrelly wrote:

> Origami boulders are made by crumpling up a piece of paper into a ball.
>

For those who are looking for more specific instructions, a previous issue of
the Bay Area Rapid Folders included the crease pattern for such an origami
boulder by Jeremy Shafer ;-)





From: Eric Pernin <pernin2@ART.ALCATEL.FR>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:36:00 +0200
Subject: gecko

Hi folks

Last week some of you have asked for a copy of the Gecko and the fly
diagrams. I've sent a copy to Perry Bailey and he was kind enough to
scan them and send me back a PDF file (thanks again Perry, you've spared
me a lot of round trips to the post office). So if anybody is interested
in these diagrams, I can send a copy of the file. Let me know.

Eric





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 17:07:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Accountants (was RE;What is it good for?)

Joseph Wu walked into:

> That's hardly fair to accountants! My father is an accountant (and a good
> one at that) and he's one of the most creative people I know.

Ok, Joseph, I couldn't resist....  "Creative Accounting" is a term I only hear
associated with jail sentences.

-D'gou





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 17:15:49 +0200
Subject: gecko

Eric Pernin wrote:
>Hi folks
>Last week some of you have asked for a copy of the Gecko and the fly
>diagrams. I've sent a copy to Perry Bailey and he was kind enough to
>scan them and send me back a PDF file (thanks again Perry, you've >spared me a
     lot of round trips to the post office). So if anybody is >interested in
     these diagrams, I can send a copy of the file. Let me >know.

I'd suggest asking Herman van Gouberghen for permission to put the
diagrams on a homepage. Easier to access, and you don't have to send
+500 e-mails out per week ;-).

Matthias





From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <Mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:06:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Origami Sighting - Betty comic

You should be able to view the comic strip on line at
http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/betty/ in about a week.

Janet Hamilton

mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Morden <marmonk@ESKIMO.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 10:39 AM
Subject: Origami Sighting - Betty comic

Monday's episode of "Betty," a comic strip by Gary Delainey and Gerry
Rasmussen, had an origami theme.

In the first panel we see Betty walking with a book in hand and an annoyed
look on her face.
In panel two she is holding the book up to her husband and saying, "Were you
reading this book?"  Her husband replies, "Um, yes."
In the third panel Betty has opened the book and we see a corner of one page
folded down.  Betty says in a scolding tone, "You folded down the corner to
mark your page. You know how I feel about that!"  Her husband replies
"Sorry."
In the final panel the husband is sitting alone, a little perplexed.  His
thought bubble reads, "I thought she'd make an exception for a book about
origami."

[insert laughter here]

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~marmonk/
--------------------------------------------------------
There is love in the red letters
There is truth in the red letters
There is hope for the hopeless
Peace and forgiveness
There is life in the red letters
                dcTalk, "Red Letters"





From: Howard Portugal <howardp@FAST.NET>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:43:44 -0800
Subject: 3D Geometric Origami

Hi,

I just purchased "3D Geometric Origami, Modular Polyhedra" by Roha
Gurkewitz and Bennett Arnstein and am having a problem assembling the
Octahedron Skeleton from 6 One-Piece Square Modules as detailed on page
38. The unit is straignt-forward enough, but I'm not sure of the
assembly method.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,

Howard

--
Howard Portugal, Woodinville, WA email:howardp@fast.net
---------------------------------------------------
"A problem worthy of attack, proves its worth by fighting back." -- Piet
Hein





From: rikki donachie <rikki@EDNET.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:02:13 +0000
Subject: RE;What is it good for?

Hi there,

George Ho, I think your charming story has answered your own question.
As for that little eight year old, with an attitude like that she will
probably grow up into something like an accountant - Someone who knows
the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Rikki





From: rikki donachie <rikki@EDNET.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:02:44 +0000
Subject: Re; Kasahara's Peacock

Hi there again

Someone recently asked about any diagrams for the peacock in Kunihiko
Kasahara's Origami omnibus, can't remember who 'cos I get a bit excited
with my delete button!

This is what I did; I enlarged the little diagram on a photocopier (by
400%), then cut it out and creased it along the lines, after a bit of
fumbling I had the same shape as the second drawing, from here it is a
matter of a reverse fold or two and some more fumbling and you will end
up with a near approximation of the photo. ( be warned there are more
creases in the photo than are indicated on the crease diagram)

Then, I took it apart carefully and after experimenting I realised that
it is the same, up to but not including step nine of the T-rex on page
90, from step 9 a bird base is put on the top square instead of a frog.
Start all over again with a fresh bit of paper and with  your, by now,
dreadfully creased photocopy as a guide.  Viola! a peacock.

Hope this helps. I'm going to try the same trick with the rhino.

ps Can anyone explain the Maekawa Theory? I've read page 88 and 89 over
and over and I'm still none the wiser!

Rikki





From: Chinh Nguyen <chinhsta@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:16:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Traditional Phoenix

I believe the traditional phoenix has been diagrammed in the most recent
Biddle book.  The title eludes me at present.





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:20:09 -0800
Subject: Re: gecko

At 11:06 1999-03-31 +0200, you wrote:
>What we need now is a permission from Herman and a web site to put the
>pdf file.

Once permission is obtained, it will be easy to find a home for it.
Suggestions: the archive site, Alex Barber's site, or my site.
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From: Ho <gmjkho@IC-NET.COM.AU>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:57:13 +0800
Subject: What is origami good for?

Since I shared my experience on 25 Mar 1999  there has been a lot of good
feedback.
I don't know what else to say ---  I am very grateful -  Thank you!

Yes, I very much valued the friendship in the origami neighbourhood, the
sense of achievement when I succeed in folding a new model, the smile on the
faces of my patients or friends when they see the finished product.

When I hear more about the benefits of origami my new sense of purpose in
life becomes stronger.

Thank you!

George Ho

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From: Eric Pernin <pernin2@ART.ALCATEL.FR>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:06:16 +0200
Subject: Re: gecko

Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:
>
> Eric Pernin wrote:
> >Hi folks
> >Last week some of you have asked for a copy of the Gecko and the fly
> >diagrams. I've sent a copy to Perry Bailey and he was kind enough to
> >scan them and send me back a PDF file (thanks again Perry, you've >spared me
     a lot of round trips to the post office). So if anybody is >interested in
     these diagrams, I can send a copy of the file. Let me >know.
>
> I'd suggest asking Herman van Gouberghen for permission to put the
> diagrams on a homepage. Easier to access, and you don't have to send
> +500 e-mails out per week ;-).
>
> Matthias

Hi Matthias

This seems a good idea, but I don't know how to contact Herman. If
anybody could be of any help, I would really appreciate. I've been
sending this model all over the world about 30 times.

What we need now is a permission from Herman and a web site to put the
pdf file.

I'm sorry I can't send this model any more as it takes me too much time.
I couldn't think of that many people interested in this model.

May be among the 30 some could afford to mail the file to the others ?

Share the knowledge and be happy.

Cheers

Eric
