




From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:01:58 -0500 (
Subject: Easy Cross (was Re: Easy Crucifix)

In a message dated 99-03-21 08:34:01 EST, you write:

> So if any of you know of a fairly easy cross
>  (for e.g. 8 year olds with no prior folding experience) please let us
>  know!

Well ... if you have one handy, take a dollar bill. Usually the white
margins on the green side are nice and even, so, cupboard-door it
lengthwise, black side in, green side out, so you have what looks like
a long white capital I on a green field.

Turn it over so you're loohing at a long green rectangle fringed with a
white stripe at the top and bottom.

Now do another, off-center, horizontal cupboard door fold, across the
width of the bill, bringing enough of the top back down to meet the
bottom back coming up, to give a white cross on a green background,
where the white margins of the four corners now meet. Just pull the
top down far enough that the arms and top of the cross are nearly the
same length.

Crease sharply, or better, put it under a weight or in a wallet, to really
press it flat.

Voila! Instant vampire protection for a buck, in only four creases.

If you want to fuss with it, you can stuff one end of the second cupboard-
door fold into the other, to lock the bill more firmly into place, without
ruining
the proportions.

If you don't want a money fold, try blintzing all four corners of a square
almost to the center, colored side out (or not, your choice) leaving a
white cross in the center.

This is a Greek Cross, with four equal arms.

Now fold the top and side blunt corners back, ... oh, about half their
length, sort of a 3/4 blintz, to shorten them, giving you a Latin Cross,
with three equal arms and a long stem.

Okay?

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:22:02 -0500 (
Subject: Common Problem -- Can you teach that? (was Re: Easy Crucifix)

In a message dated 99-03-21 08:34:01 EST, you write:

> Yesterday Dave Brill taught us Neil Elias' crucifiction at the
>  Manchester mini-meeting. Being proud of my achievement I took it to show
>  people at church (so you all know what's coming next..)
>
>  "Can you teach that to a group of children (3-11 year olds!) on Good
>  Friday?" Not this one!!!!

Yes. I ran into that whenever I displayed a Robert Neale's Dragon.

*sigh*. Still don't know quite how to deal with it.

Didn't matter that the person didn't even know how to fold a
sheet of paper in half and get the edges lined up, or how to make
a sharp crease. They all want to start right off with the Dragon.

And at least half of them won't believe that that 15-20 minute fold would
(1) take an hour or more to lead them thru, for those with previous
origami experience, and (2) very few of them would be able to remember
it the next day, so (3) no, I really couldn't teach them that, (4) because
it was too difficult and time-consuming, (5) not because I didn't like them.

I hate to disappoint them, but trying to teach something they don't yet
have the background to learn, when there isn't enough time, just
doesn't work, in my limited experience. And I'm not a good teacher.
Don't have the patience, nor the eyes in back of my head.

Oh well, I'm getting depressed just thinking about it. Sorry.

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura
kenny1414@aol.com





From: "John E. Clark" <jeclark@CAMALOTT.COM>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:52:42 -0600
Subject: PDF File format

Hey all,

    I was just thinking that if anyone wants to make some diagrams and put them
     in the acrobat reader format, I can do that.  Just make the diagrams in
     what ever you want and I will put them in pdf format.  Oh, BTW, No charge.
     I enjoy doing it.

John






From: Daniela Carboni <s134259@STUDENTI.ING.UNIPI.IT>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 15:45:13 +0100
Subject: Diagramming; Was Re: Greetings,

Hi Rikki, hi all,

Rikki wrote

>One thing that I don't quite understand is how finished models of a high
>standard have not been diagrammed. When I create something I find that the
>first attempt is ok as a "rough", but in order to re-do it properly, with
>every crease in the right place, I have to unfold it step by step, drawing as
>I go, which leaves me with the model diagrammed. Or am I missing something?

Sometimes happens that I wait months before diagramming models I fold. It
happens because I have exams to take, dishes to wash, movies to see, people
to meet etc.

Last week I diagrammed models I folded in 1997... I had to reverse-engineer
my own models!

Of course, I am very very lazy when I have to diagram anything. After all I
like to fold more than to draw.

When I finally sketch the diagrams the first step is to draw them on a
notebook for me to use, and these diagrams are usually good enough for me
to understand, but not as clear as I would like in order to show them to
others (I am very shy about it). The second step is to draw the diagrams
again in a clearer way, by hand or using a computer; but it is a time (and
patience) consuming task ;)

You can find a few of my models on my web page or on the CDO (the Italian
origami association) site--> http://www.essenet.it/cdo

I appreciate comments on my work from you and from other list members.

Ciao,
        Daniela

/\_/\    Daniela S. Carboni
 o o     email: s134259@studenti.ing.unipi.it
= # =    http://www.fortunecity.com/rushdie/93/





From: =?iso-8859-1?B?VEhPUktJTEQgU9hOREVSR8VSRA==?= <thokiyenn@GET2NET.DK>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 18:37:10 +0100
Subject: updated homepage

Thok speaking with permission from Kalmon.

I have got so much joy out of this list
and I would like to share a marvellous experience
I have enjoyed in the last month or so.
First I got a lot of valuable help from Nick Robinson
to set up my site on the net. Thank you very much, Nick
..
Then I got e-mail from a young American boy
Tommy Stevens from Texas,
he told me how I could improve the look of my site
and since then we have been in nearly dayly contact over the e-mail line.
He has guided me through the agony and problems with tables
and how to find the optimal settings for photos and colors.
He has answered all my silly questions with kindness and exactness
and I am very grateful towards him for all that help
and also to the list, which made it possible for me
to meet this clever young man.

I now dare to tell you all, that on the Origami Cloud
I have diagrams for the following models:

DNA 4 Molecule - A4
Diabolic Frame  - A4 modified
Parallelepiped    - A4
Folding Money    - custom
Fujimoto Hexbox - A4
Shy young Rabbit - Square
inside Outside Box - A4
Magic Rings            - A4
Ear Ornament         - Square

On the Geometry Cloud:
How to convert a Square to a Silver Rectangle
How to convert a Silver Rectangle to a golden rectangle.

And then there is lot of other stuff
that might interest some of you.

With gratefull thanks to everybody

Thoki Yenn

thok@thok.dk

So please have a look at
www.thok.dk





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 17:54:46 -0800
Subject: Cranes for John Update

Greetings to all of my origami friends,

Just a note to let you know that I'm nearing the end of the quest for the
1,001 cranes and I'm still stringing ones that have come from many of you
out there.  My hands have been feeling better so I shall be able to do the
last ones if my origami club doesn't come through with a hundred more.

John is back at his job and he will be getting a new non toxic treatment on
Friday next week.  It's the first of four that will be done 1x weekly.  Then
we'll see if there's a remission.

We will be celebrating our 30th anniversary on March 28th.  All of your cranes
will be hanging then and for John's birthday on April 3rd.  The cranes are a
reminder of all your good wishes and spirits that will be with us.

Special thanks to all for those special cranes,
Ria

PS I want to add that I was sorry to see the post about Jay's passing.
My husband's nickname is Jay.





From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <Mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 19:04:27 -0500
Subject: Origami Sighting

The April 1999 issue of Diabetes Forecast had instruction on folding a paper
pinwheel in their kids pages.

Janet Hamilton

mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 23:01:49 -0500
Subject: Re: "Bucky ball"

>Casida Mark wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As a chemist, of course I've been following the discussion
>> thread regarding bucky balls.  It occurred to me that there
>> is one aspect of "bucky ball chemistry" (the technical name
>> is "fullerines" after Buckminsterfuller, the inventor of the
>> geodesic dome) which might be amenable to origamic
>> investigation --- namely that the stability of fullerine
>> structures is related to the presence of pentagons.  I can't
>> go into this too deeply (because I don't know too much about
>> this aspect of the problem) but hexagons joined together will
>> tile a plain.  Making the hexagons fold around into a sphere
>> or American football or other closed figure in a geometrically
>> stable way requires the introduction of shapes other than
>> hexagons.  Some fullerine stuctures involve squares and/or
>> heptagons --- but it is the structures with well placed
>> pentagons which lead to special stability.  Can anyone add
>> anything?  Tom Hull from the math end?  Other chemist folders
>> out there?  (I think that Buckminsterfuller may have written
>> on this subject.)
>>
>>                    Have a nice day,
>>                          Mark
>> --
>> *-------------------------------------------------------*
>> |          Mark E. Casida                               |
>> |                  Mark.Casida@umontreal.ca             |
>> *-------------------------------------------------------*
Dear Cassida,  I have been working with a triangular version of the Sonobe
unit, using four equilateral triangles strung together.  The center two
form a diamond shape and constutute the body of the unit which are capable
of receiving connectors from other pieces.  It is folded from half a
square.  The length is slightly short for the six trianagles which can be
formed, and a little fudging takes care of that.  The two end triangles are
tucked away, but in the process I leave a little flap which can be used to
lock in an inserted inserted end piece.  It is also visible from the side
and can be used to tuck in a piece along the end, allowing the attractive
smooth side to remain on the outside if desired.
        I have tried to fold as many kinds of poyhedra as possible with the
single module.  Hexagons can be formed but are not capable on their own to
form a ball.  A pentagon is possible only in  peaked or depressed forms.
Steps in folding the dodecahedrom was published in the Nov-Dec Issue of
FOLD, which was distributed among two dozen members.
        I have been applying my triangular unit to the  Bucky Ball
recently, and find it challenging, but also interesting  since the
discussion of the roles of pentagons and hesagons have been aired.  I
started out by using five units to form a pentagon, which I found better
depressed to show the presence of the pentagon on the surface of the ball.
This left half a unit stidking oujt from the eah side of the pentagon.
For each edge of he penaon I added a unit consisting of two more triangles
against  the side.  This made three trianles line up against each side of
the fenter pentagon.  This was clearly half a nexagone.  When this exensio
of t he sides of the petagone was carried oujt for all the pentagone and
five of them were placed around the center pentagon, there appeared five
hexzgone connected together.  What was nice was that the end inserters
appeared at right angles to the edges, and hende easily fit into the
triangle on the opposite side.  While the hexagons remained flat the engles
between them were bent and made the hexagons prominent.  This tended to
obliterated the fact that the extened pentagon running through the hexagons
constituted  was actually a pentabon.  One could then argue that it was a
system of penagons which provided the basic strngth of the Bucky Ball.
        When I finished half of he ball, I ws curious to  know how many
more units I would have to fold.  The dodedhedron is made up of only
penagons and requires 12 penagons so that I would have to fold six more
enlared pentagon units, meaning 120 units in all.  Because the inserters
emerge at right angles to the edges of the smaller pentagons, it would
appear that one would not need to change the right or lefthandedness of the
unis.
        I am not up on the math of this type of problem, but feel that the
hexagon gains strength from its being a part of a pentagon.  JSames M.
Sakoda





From: "Martin R. Carbone" <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 08:43:29 +0100
Subject: Re: A book I almost remember....

> Regartding the almost remembered book ---

> Call the library and ask the reference librarian? -- I bet he or she
> will be delighted to help.





From: Rick Beech <Ricknbeech@AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:30:21 -0500 (
Subject: Book Enquiry.....

I wish to purchase a copy of the Spanish book "Grupo Riglos El Libro de las
Mascares de
Papel plegado" , ISBN 84 - 206 - 0828 - 9. I've written to a couple of Spanish
origami
organisations, without reply. Does anyone know where I can find a copy? I
wonder if OUSA supplies might....I'm visiting their convention in June......

Regards,

Rick Beech.   Ricknbeech@AOL.com





From: Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:45:43 -0700
Subject: Re: Convention Airfares

I've also noticed that Amtrak offers special package deals to Seattle.
Includes lodging and a few other extras, which might make it cheaper than
flying.

Info available at the Amtrak site I expect, but probably easiest to call
1-800-USA-RAIL.

pat slider.





From: "Nancy B. McNitt" <nbm@MINDSPRING.COM>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:23:33 -0500
Subject: TOFU March Meeting

The Raleigh - Durham, NC area Origami meeting is scheduled 3/27/99. The name
of our group is Triangle Origami Folders United (TOFU).

Saturday, March 27, 1999 from 7:00 - 9:00 is the next monthly meeting of
TOFU. It will be held at Quail Bookstore. Please send me an E-mail with your
phone number if you need directions.

Come with your problem diagrams so we can try to help.

Glenn McNitt





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 12:05:27 -0500
Subject: Ooopsie, misaddressing!

Sorry, I wanted to send my mail directly to Mikael, not to the entire list.

Anyway, at least you've learnt how to do a stretched bird base! ;-)
(couldn't resist...)

Address carefully,

Peter Budai





From: Casida Mark <casida@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:57:02 -0500
Subject: Re: "Bucky ball"

Hi,

I would like to thank Dr. James Sakoda for his very interesting
message on constructing a bucky ball from sonobe modules.  (I
would also like to thank him for having written a very interesting
origami book which once helped to rekindle my interest in origami.)

  I thought I'd take advantage of this little message to mention
that another set of geometric structures which are of great interest
to chemists are zeolite matrices.  These are crystals with large
open channels which can trap molecules for long enough to encourage
chemical reactions.  I am sure that they are amenable to origami!
(But may require much patience to construct...)

  You can get an idea of the variety of shapes by checking out
the site

   http://www-iza-sc.csb.yale.edu/IZA-SC/Atlas/AtlasHome.html

which contains a veritable atlas of crystal types along with
pictures of each type of geometric structure.

                      All the best,
                           Mark
--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|                  Mark.Casida@umontreal.ca             |





From: Spider Barbour <spider@ULSTER.NET>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:59:06 -0500
Subject: deadline?

-- [ From: Spider Barbour * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Hello all -- is there a deadline for submitting model diagrams to OUSA for
possible inclusion in the convention annual?  If so, I hope it hasn't passed
.               Anita





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 14:07:24 +0000
Subject: A book I almost remember....

When I was at school our local library had an origami book (which got me
interested in the subject). I can't remember its title or author and I
wondered if anyone can help.
All I remember is that it was hardback, roughly A4 and about 1 inch thick
(it has been ~18 years). It had a huge number of models diagrammed in it
ranging from very easy to very tricky.

Any help would be appreciated.

--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)





From: Bruce Stephens <B.Stephens@ISODE.COM>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 14:30:15 +0000
Subject: Re: A book I almost remember....

Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK> writes:

> When I was at school our local library had an origami book (which
> got me interested in the subject). I can't remember its title or
> author and I wondered if anyone can help.

> All I remember is that it was hardback, roughly A4 and about 1 inch
> thick (it has been ~18 years). It had a huge number of models
> diagrammed in it ranging from very easy to very tricky.

"Secrets of Origami"?  (By Robert Harbin.)  That would be about the
right time, and was a largish hardback (although not quite an inch
thick, I suspect), and had a variety of models.  The one I remember
from it was the nice rabbit on a cube (from a 2x1 rectangle); I forget
the designer.





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 14:40:29 +0000
Subject: Re: A book I almost remember....

Thanks. Thats probably it! I remember a rabbit on a box.

(I did vaguely recognise the name Robert Harbin but had no idea where from).
--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)

> ----------
> From:         Bruce Stephens[SMTP:B.Stephens@ISODE.COM]
> Reply To:     Origami List
> Sent:         22 March 1999 14:30
> To:   ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject:      Re: A book I almost remember....
>
> Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK> writes:
>
> > When I was at school our local library had an origami book (which
> > got me interested in the subject). I can't remember its title or
> > author and I wondered if anyone can help.
>
> > All I remember is that it was hardback, roughly A4 and about 1 inch
> > thick (it has been ~18 years). It had a huge number of models
> > diagrammed in it ranging from very easy to very tricky.
>
> "Secrets of Origami"?  (By Robert Harbin.)  That would be about the
> right time, and was a largish hardback (although not quite an inch
> thick, I suspect), and had a variety of models.  The one I remember
> from it was the nice rabbit on a cube (from a 2x1 rectangle); I forget
> the designer.





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:42:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Addendum to origami flowers

>I am interested in getting a copy of the Addendum to your Origami
>Flowers.  I bought the book about a week ago before seeing there was an
>addendum in your website.  What is the cost for just the addendum
>including postage?
>I have not had an opportunity to try folding the models in the book but
>I am very impressed by the all the possibilites.  I know my wife will be
>pleased by my efforts!
>
>My e-mail address is:  Andrew_Lauren.yr.com
>
>Thank you very much.
>
>Andrew

Dear Andrew,  The cost of theAdemdum is $3.  If you send me $5 I will send
it to you airmail in a protected envelop.  James M. Sakoda, 411 County
Road, Barrington, RI 02806-2423
p.s.  Your email address did not work!





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:56:21 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Easy Crucifix

For and easy cross (this involves folding and cutting)
Using an 8 1/2 by 11 sheet of paper.
Take the top short edge and fold it down to meet the long edge.  (as if to
make a square)  Without unfolding, bring the top point down to meet the raw
edge you have just created.  (Not the one at the bottom of the sheet of paper)
It now looks like a house..Fold the house in half from the point down to the
bottom edge of the house
Look for the crease on one side of your model.  About 2" in from this crease
rip or cut off the two flaps you have created.  When you unfold this model you
will have a cross.  If you have any problems with this, ask me again.
This is an easy model for beginners even though it isn't pure Origami.  It
goes with a sort of  naughty little story I learned when I was a kid.  I guess
a lot of you know it........Dorigami





From: Allan findlay <a_findlay@EXCHANGE.CREATIONS.CO.UK>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:20:35 +0000
Subject: Re: A book I almost remember....

It was "Secrets of Origami" by Robert Harbin. I looked it up on Amazon.com
and I recognised quite a few of the models it listed.

Thats my birthday present sorted if I can persuade my wife to buy it for
me.....
--------------------------
        Allan           (a_findlay@exchange.creations.co.uk)

> ----------
> From:         Martin R. Carbone[SMTP:mrcinc@SILCOM.COM]
> Reply To:     Origami List
> Sent:         22 March 1999 07:43
> To:   ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject:      Re: A book I almost remember....
>
> > Regartding the almost remembered book ---
>
> > Call the library and ask the reference librarian? -- I bet he or she
> > will be delighted to help.





From: rikki donachie <rikki@EDNET.CO.UK>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:05:52 +0000
Subject: Re: Diagramming

I definitely am missing something. Or maybe I create models in a different way
     to
most people.

 I fool around with a piece of paper until something interesting appears, and
     then,
if I think that it is worth progressing, I immediately go back and repeat it
     without
the mistakes and wrong turnings taken the first time. With anything but the most
simple of models I, personally cannot remember precisely what I did and in what
order, that's why I diagram at the time. This legendary cuckoo-clock must be a
     case
in point. Can Mr Lang really remember how to do it in all of its intricate
complexity?

Mr Lang I take my hat off to you and may I take this opportunity to join the
     growing
ranks of people who want to see this thing in print!

Ma Dawson wrote about putting things on computer using MS Draw. Stop wasting
     your
time.As a personal opinion, most things put out by Microsoft are not half as
     good as
specialist programs by other companies. Diagram onto paper with a pencil. Then
     scan
the drawings in, using whatever software is suitable for you and your set up. I
     use
Adobe Illustrator, CorelDraw and Painter regularly in my work as a cartoonist
     and
illustator, but never for diagramming models.

I am intrigued by the idea of doing diagrams in a "forward fashion". (Peter
     Budai)
What? Apart from deciding that you are going to use a particular base to achieve
something, how can one plan ahead? I have attempted to create a magpie on many
occassions, to date I have ended up with a scorpion, shrimp, flower, baboon,
     lizard,
various dogs, a couple of crows, a chameleon, various candle holders, the
     business
end of a wasp and the fishy half of a mermaid! Such is the serendipitous nature
     of
origami! But no magpie....yet.

Regards

Rikki





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:38:47 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Looking for Flapping Bird Diagram

I checked out the two flapping bird diagrams in the Flapping Bird from Magic
Inc..  I tried them both and found that the second one from the stretched bird
base looks like an eagle and flaps much better than the first one.  I enjoy
folding different  varieties on the flapping bird and am interested in the
evolution of the design of it. I suspect maybe the first step in the evolution
was a square of paper folded in half, held at the fold so that the two flaps
go up and down like wings flying.  Anybody have any ideas?  Many years ago
Nakano wrote a book on variations on the Flapping Bird.  I met for dinner with
him and Eric Kenneway when I was in London and he gave me a copy of the
booklet.  I don't know if that is still available.  Maybe from the B.O.S.  He
also gave me a booklet on variations on butterflies.  Haven't looked at them
in a long time but will check them out.





From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:20:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Diagramming

YO yo yo!

Rikki writes:

>>>
Ma Dawson wrote about putting things on computer using MS Draw.
Stop wasting your time.
<<<

Well, if you're worried about wasting time, why bother with diagrams?
All you need is the crease pattern, after all.  Just keep a record
of the crease patterns for all the models you invent and you'll be
able to reproduce it anytime you want!

Oh, and I, for one, am much faster with drawing in Canvas 5 than
I am with a pencil and paper - and the results are professional
quality.

>>>
What? Apart from deciding that you are going to use a particular base
to achieve
something, how can one plan ahead?
<<<

Go to
ftp://ftp.rug.nl/origami/programs/TreeMaker/index.htm
and download the TreeMaker 4.0 pdf file with documentation and
instructions.  It's a great text by Robert Lang that tells you
how you *can* plan ahead, totally.

---- Tom "don't fight the math!" Hull
     Merrimack College
     thull@merrimack.edu





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:41:04 -0800
Subject: Re: Diagramming

At 02:27 99/03/23 +0100, you wrote:
>I do not agree with your opinion, from an olistic point of view:
>
>"An origami model is something more than
> the sum of the folds needed to obtain it" ;)
>
>Serously, my opinion is that the "crease patterns trick" can work for
>simple models only. Models involving complicate techniques such as squash
>folds are a good example of what a crease pattern cannot accuratly describe.
>
>Have good folds and draw diagrams before it is too late.

Oh, so I guess it's too late for me. I don't have diagrams for most of my
models, and often only have bad sketches of crease patterns. Some models
(complex ones, too) are totally undocumented. And yet I can remember how to
fold most of them. Everyone is different, right?

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:56:20 -0800 (
Subject: Re: Diagramming

Joseph Wu wrote:

>Oh, so I guess it's too late for me. I don't have diagrams for most of
my
>models, and often only have bad sketches of crease patterns. Some
models
>(complex ones, too) are totally undocumented. And yet I can remember
how to
>fold most of them. Everyone is different, right?

I have lots of models on a shelf which the only thing I remember about
them is the general structure.  If I ever need to fold another one, I
feel confident that I can either unfold an existing model safely and
refold it step by step, or produce a similar one using the same
structure- or rather, allocation of points.

As to diagramming, I only attempted it once, and this list has heard
enough about THAT. :-)  My philosophy is that it helps, but it isn't
neccessary.

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From: "Martin R. Carbone" <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 20:49:50 +0100
Subject: Re: Diagramming

Sounds like diagramming is something like playing a musical instrument. Some
experts need a printed score and some experts (reportedly, Louis armstrong) can
play only by ear and some can do both. -- and most novices, like me, can't do
either.





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:53:29 -0600 (
Subject: Origami for my brother-in-law

Hello Everyone,

  I am hesitant to ask this, I hate asking for things, and I know how busy
you all are.  My brother-in-law, Ron Dayton, is not an origamist but he
greatly enjoys origami models.  He is currently in the hospital awaiting
a heart transplant.  I make origami models for him to lighten up his days.
I was wondering if anyone on this list would like to help by making
something special for him.  Just one or two models is all I ask.  I'll
see that he gets the models.  Please send them to:
Douglas Zander
2121 E Capitol Dr.
Apt 106
Shorewood, WI 53211 USA
Attn: Ron Dayton

Thanks for your help.

--
 Douglas Zander                |
 dzander@solaria.sol.net       |
 Shorewood, Wisconsin, USA     |





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:11:00 -0800
Subject: Re: Diagramming

Thanks to the many who offered the benefit of their wisdom on diagraming,
computer or not.

> Everyone is different, right?<

Viva la difference!

madawson@sprynet.com
MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: Diagramming

>At 02:27 99/03/23 +0100, you wrote:
>>I do not agree with your opinion, from an olistic point of view:
>>
>>"An origami model is something more than
>> the sum of the folds needed to obtain it" ;)
>>
>>Serously, my opinion is that the "crease patterns trick" can work for
>>simple models only. Models involving complicate techniques such as squash
>>folds are a good example of what a crease pattern cannot accuratly
describe.
>>
>>Have good folds and draw diagrams before it is too late.
>
>Oh, so I guess it's too late for me. I don't have diagrams for most of my
>models, and often only have bad sketches of crease patterns. Some models
>(complex ones, too) are totally undocumented. And yet I can remember how to
>fold most of them. Everyone is different, right?
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
>t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
>w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Daniela Carboni <s134259@STUDENTI.ING.UNIPI.IT>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 02:27:36 +0100
Subject: Re: Diagramming

Tom Hull wrote

>Just keep a record
>of the crease patterns for all the models you invent and you'll be
>able to reproduce it anytime you want!

I do not agree with your opinion, from an olistic point of view:

"An origami model is something more than
 the sum of the folds needed to obtain it" ;)

Serously, my opinion is that the "crease patterns trick" can work for
simple models only. Models involving complicate techniques such as squash
folds are a good example of what a crease pattern cannot accuratly describe.

Have good folds and draw diagrams before it is too late.

Ciao,
        Daniela.

/\_/\    Daniela S. Carboni
 o o     email: s134259@studenti.ing.unipi.it
= # =    http://www.fortunecity.com/rushdie/93/





From: Gerard Blais <gblais@NORTELNETWORKS.COM>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 09:42:05 -0500
Subject: Origami-Montreal - next meeting

The next meeting of Origami-Montreal will be held:

     Sunday, March 28, from 1 PM to 4 PM,
     at 6848 Christophe-Colomb, Montreal.

On the menu:
    - Discussions: local events, international events, new books,
      interesting news, etc.
    - Planification/Annoncement of the next meeting.
    - Folding workshop:
        Flowers, presented by Hideko Sinto.
    - Free folding, discussion, etc.

Origami material (i.e. paper) will be provided for those who need it.

See you Sunday!  Be there or be "square"! :-)

Gerard

+-----+ Origami-Montreal
|     | Phone & fax: (450) 448-2530 (Hideko Sinto)
|     | email: origami@francomedia.qc.ca (Hideko Sinto)
+-----+ web: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Den/8802





From: Cyrille Preaux <cyrille.preaux@ACCESINTERNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:22:42 +0100
Subject: origami an symmetry

hello origami word

i've seen ( a long time ago) browsing the web a thesis on origami and
symmetry

i think it was a study (mathematically oriented) on why origami was
symmetric.

as many it seems to be a faq for my friends i would like to find it again...

does someone know something about it???

cyrille





From: Darren Scott <Darren.Scott@SCI.MONASH.EDU.AU>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:57:32 +0000
Subject: Re: Easy Crucifix

> Yesterday Dave Brill taught us Neil Elias' crucifiction at the
> Manchester mini-meeting. Being proud of my achievement I took it to show
> people at church (so you all know what's coming next..)
>
> "Can you teach that to a group of children (3-11 year olds!) on Good
> Friday?" Not this one!!!! So if any of you know of a fairly easy cross
> (for e.g. 8 year olds with no prior folding experience) please let us
> know! Time is a bit short of course! And Dave, if you are reading this,
> any chance of a copy of the Elias Diags?
I've tought a group of 10-12year olds a simple cross from the
Flapping bird diagrams It's based on a bird basethat is flattened and
corners sunk (these could just be reverse folded)

this seemd to work ok for this group lets see what happens
-------------------------
Definition of Atheism:  a non-prophet organization.





From: Richard Kennedy <r.a.kennedy@BHAM.AC.UK>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:11:15 +0000
Subject: Re: Der Falter "BOS" edition - free!

An open suggestion to Nick, and hopeful recipients

At many of our (BOS) conventions we do have visitors from abroad, Europe,
the US, Canada, Australasia... Might we encourage some of these visitors
to take der Falter's back with them to their home countries, where they
could then distribute them using local postage?

The issue is certainly worth having - I bought mine! If my memory is correct
it contains the clearest diagrams and instructions for folding Jeff Beynon's
amazing spring.

Regards

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:49:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Looking for Flapping Bird Diagram

>I checked out the two flapping bird diagrams in the Flapping Bird from Magic
>Inc..  I tried them both and found that the second one from the stretched bird
>base looks like an eagle and flaps much better than the first one.  I enjoy
>folding different  varieties on the flapping bird and am interested in the
>evolution of the design of it. I suspect maybe the first step in the evolution
>was a square of paper folded in half, held at the fold so that the two flaps
>go up and down like wings flying.  Anybody have any ideas?  Many years ago
>Nakano wrote a book on variations on the Flapping Bird.  I met for dinner with
>him and Eric Kenneway when I was in London and he gave me a copy of the
>booklet.  I don't know if that is still available.  Maybe from the B.O.S.  He
>also gave me a booklet on variations on butterflies.  Haven't looked at them
>in a long time but will check them out.

Hi, Several years ago I tried to make a flapping bird which had the
narrowed neck and tail of the orizuru.  I tried the frog base as a
beginning , narrowed the neck and tail and got  the bird to flap
easily..But the body seems a little too small.  But it is a variation.  Jim
Sakoda





From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@FANTASYFARM.COM>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:16:21 -0500
Subject: Questions on John's flapping bird

Three questions about the precrease in step 1 of John's flapping bird:

1) is there some analytic way to trisect the angle?  I can do it the
iterative way [fold, fold back, fold back, etc... just like dividing an
edge into thirds] but it seems like there ought to be some way to do that
particular trisection exactly.

2) is there a landmark for the corner triangle, or is that a judgment
fold?

3) I assume the precrease/squash on the opposite corner is identical to
the first.

Sorry to be dense...  Thanks!

  /Bernie\
--
Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
mailto:bernie@fantasyfarm.com     Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--





From: Stephen Canon <Stephen_Canon@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:47:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Questions on John's flapping bird

At 04-16 PM 23U03U99 -0500, you wrote:
>Three questions about the precrease in step 1 of John's flapping bird:
>
>1) is there some analytic way to trisect the angle?  I can do it the
>iterative way [fold, fold back, fold back, etc... just like dividing an
>edge into thirds] but it seems like there ought to be some way to do that
>particular trisection exactly.

See Tom Hull's page for a nice elegant way to do any trisection exactly -
http://chasm.merrimack.edu/~thull/OrigamiMath.html
You need to follow the link labeled "axioms of origami" (or something to
that effect)

-steve canon
Stephen_Canon@brown.edu





From: John Smith <jon.pure@PASTON.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:14:53 +0000
Subject: Flapping Bird and measuring fold difficulty.

Hi,
I noticed that Robert Lang identified a request for a flapping bird
from a stretched bird base as likely to refer to my model published in
Sam Randlett's , 'The Flapping Bird' journal.
Actually my folding method does not start with the stretched bird base, this
was
Sam's idea, I feel it adds unecessary creases.
For anyone interested I have put the diagram on my webb site.

There has been much discussion recently about measuring fold difficulty
I have collected my research into this subject and you will find it on the
above Web site.

regards John

www.paston.co.uk/users/jon.pure/bitsofsmith.htm





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:35:56 -0800
Subject: Re: Cranes for John Update

>Ria
>
>I am fairly new to the origami list but would be pleased to fold some
cranes
>for you.  Please let me know where to mail them.  There is healing for the
>folder as well as those who receive.
>
>madawson@sprynet.com
>
>MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>Date: Sunday, March 21, 1999 5:54 PM
>Subject: Cranes for John Update
>
>
>>Greetings to all of my origami friends,
>>
>>Just a note to let you know that I'm nearing the end of the quest for the
>>1,001 cranes and I'm still stringing ones that have come from many of you
>>out there.  My hands have been feeling better so I shall be able to do the
>>last ones if my origami club doesn't come through with a hundred more.
>>
>>John is back at his job and he will be getting a new non toxic treatment
on
>>Friday next week.  It's the first of four that will be done 1x weekly.
>Then
>>we'll see if there's a remission.
>>
>>We will be celebrating our 30th anniversary on March 28th.  All of your
>cranes
>>will be hanging then and for John's birthday on April 3rd.  The cranes are
>a
>>reminder of all your good wishes and spirits that will be with us.
>>
>>Special thanks to all for those special cranes,
>>Ria
>>
>>PS I want to add that I was sorry to see the post about Jay's passing.
>>My husband's nickname is Jay.





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:13:01 +0000
Subject: Re: Der Falter "BOS" edition - free!

Richard Kennedy <r.a.kennedy@BHAM.AC.UK> sez

>Might we encourage some of these visitors
>to take der Falter's back with them to their home countries, where they
>could then distribute them using local postage?

The same applies to back issues of British origami - we have many left
which *must* go soon.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:43:07 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Looking for Flapping Bird Diagram

In a message dated 99-03-23 15:50:14 EST, James M. Sakoda writes:

> Hi, Several years ago I tried to make a flapping bird which had the
>  narrowed neck and tail of the orizuru.  I tried the frog base as a
>  beginning , narrowed the neck and tail and got  the bird to flap
>  easily..But the body seems a little too small.  But it is a variation.  Jim
>  Sakoda

Hmm ?  I remember playing with the narrowing idea, trying to
figure out what made the traditional Flapping Bird different from
the traditional Crane (orizuru = ori "fold" + tsuru "crane", I think).

(1) Actually (just verified by trying it) the orizuru will flap,
if you pre-crease the wing hinge and very gently pull on the tail
until the paper learns where to slide. There is an increased
tendency to tear at the reverse-fold of the tail.

As someone noted elsewhere, for the traditional Flapping Bird,
here, too, it helps if the reverse-fold for the tail is not snug but
leaves a little extra slack for the sliding.

Alternatively:

(2) Narrowing the neck is not a problem, since it doesn't interfere
with the flapping mechanism.

Narrowing the tail is the problem. It is almost as easy, if you
do it last, after the tail is reverse-folded, so it only affects the tail,
and doesn't narrow the back of the wing, which gums up
the flapping mechanism.

This does raise the forward end of the flapping hinge, a little.

Happy experimenting!

Aloha,
Kenneth M. Kawamura





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:16:42 -0500
Subject: Dollar Bill Double Rose

I have put a diagram of the double rose on a dollar bill on my home page
:http://idt.net/~kittyv
James M. Sakoda  http://idt.net/~kittyv





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:37:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Diagramming

Daniela S. Carboni wrote:

>>Have good folds and draw diagrams before it is too late.

Joseph Wu wrote:

>Oh, so I guess it's too late for me. I don't have diagrams ...
undocumented. >And yet I can remember how to fold most of them.

Than it means it's not too late! ;-)  I wanna buy your book!

Happy diagramming,

Peter Budai





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:37:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Diagramming

Tom Hull wrote

>>Just keep a record
>>of the crease patterns for all the models you invent and you'll be
>>able to reproduce it anytime you want!

Daniela S. Carboni wrote

>Serously, my opinion is that the "crease patterns trick" can work for
>simple models only. Models involving complicate techniques such as squash
>folds are a good example of what a crease pattern cannot accuratly describe.

In fact a crease pattern describes every fold (squash fold, sinks,
everything), so it's a complete "ID" for a model. The problem starts when
you have a thousand of creases on the crease pattern and cannot decide
where to start and how to do the folding. And of course the artistic effect
is not included in the crease pattern. But the "skeleton" is.

Happy folding, either from diagrams, crease patterns, or previously folded
models,

Peter Budai





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:37:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Diagramming

Rikkiu wrote:

>I definitely am missing something. Or maybe I create models in a different
way >to most people.

No, no. The way you described is the way most people do it (me, too a many
times).

>I immediately go back and repeat it without the mistakes and wrong
turnings >taken the first time.
>...
>I am intrigued by the idea of doing diagrams in a "forward fashion".

I simply meant that you make the rough diagrams AS you are folding the
model (the second, the third, the n-th time, whenever you feel it's more or
less settled), as opposed to doing it while UNfolding the finished model
(which takes more time and a kind of invert-thinking). Diagramming
backwards is fun, I admit, but diagramming forwards is faster and simpler
(for me, at least).

>What? Apart from deciding that you are going to use a particular base to
>achieve something, how can one plan ahead?

When you have the idea how many appendages you'd like to have, you can
search for an existing configuration, or use your previous folding
experiences (or 'tricks') to make a suitable base for the subject. All this
hassle can be avoided if you have Mac (As Tom Hull already mentioned,
there's Treemaker for base-creating use).

Happy creating,

Peter Budai





From: Terrence Rioux <trioux@WHOI.EDU>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:00:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Flapping Bird

John Smith <jon.pure@PASTON.CO.UK> said:
(some snipping)

>I noticed that Robert Lang identified a request for a flapping bird
>as likely to refer to my model published in Sam Randlett's  'The
>Flapping Bird' journal.For anyone interested I have put the diagram
>on my web site.    www.paston.co.uk/users/jon.pure/bitsofsmith.htm
--

John,

Yes, this is the model! Thank you very much for sharing the diagrams
with us on your web site.  This Flapping Bird is a very elegant design,
one which I intend to add to my limited repertoire.  It can represent
different birds, such as an eagle, or a sea gull, depending upon how you
finish the head, but I think it is most effective folded in white paper
as a dove.  It is also nice to have a name to link with the model.

I first saw this model at the 1997 OUSA convention in New York City.
Our table at the evening banquet was next to the table at which
Yoshizawa-san sat. There were also people from many other countries
attending.  A lady at our table (sadly I can't remember her name) folded
this flapping bird model from a sheet of kami which had as a design the
flags of many nations, and taught me how to fold one.  I slipped it into
my pocket, but of course, since my head was filled with other models
crammed into it during the hectic days, I forgot how to do it when I
later discovered the paper bird while dressing for another occasion.  I
still have it on a shelf but have not been brave enough to unfold it for
reverse-engineering.  I find it interesting to learn how one's creations
affect people once they have been released into the world, so I thought
you'd like to know how yours influenced me.

Regards,

Terry Rioux





From: Mark Rae <m.rae@INPHARMATICA.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:43:24 +0000
Subject: Re: Flapping Bird

Terrence Rioux wrote:
> John Smith <jon.pure@PASTON.CO.UK> said:
> >Flapping Bird' journal.For anyone interested I have put the diagram
> >on my web site.    www.paston.co.uk/users/jon.pure/bitsofsmith.htm
>
> Yes, this is the model! Thank you very much for sharing the diagrams
> with us on your web site.  This Flapping Bird is a very elegant design,
> one which I intend to add to my limited repertoire.  It can represent
> different birds, such as an eagle, or a sea gull, depending upon how you
                                          ^^^^^^^^

There is another model very similar to this which I learned from a book
a number of years ago and it was titled as a seagull. Unfortunately I
can't remember either the book or author.

The head section is similar, but the angles are not 30/15, it
is just folded in half, and rather than just reverse folding the head
down, it is folded up, and then down. The hidden layers are then pulled
out to make a broader head before making the beak.

The tail is formed differently, giving a much broader tail which doesn't taper
to a point. Although it still flaps using the same mechanism.
(The edges of the other triangular half of the square are folded to
the centerline, and then folded in half back again, the tail being sunk
in a similar manner.)

    -Mark

--
Mark Rae                                       Tel: +44(0)171 631 4644
Inpharmatica                                   Fax: +44(0)171 631 4844
m.rae@inpharmatica.co.uk                http://www.inpharmatica.co.uk/





From: Mathias Maul <maulm001@GOOFY.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:27:24 +0100
Subject: Origami for the Masses

Dear Listmembers,

I am working (free-lance) for a paper distributor who specializes on
hand-crafted "natural" papers. Currently, I am involved in a project
with this company which aims at putting on the market pre-cut paper
packaged with origami diagrams. Of course, this is not a new idea, but
your run-of-the-mill package of kami seldom contains diagrams more
attractive than your run-of-the-mill sitting crane. What we want is that
models like, for example, Edwin Corrie's Bear Cub to be known to the Man
On The Street.

My origami, erm, career started about five years ago and I know quite a
few origami models. Also, I have already browsed through about five
dozen books and found some suitable models, but before I make a choice,
I'd like a more representative opinion.

So my question to all of you is: If you could choose *six* models you'd
like to see in the shelves of your local crafts/book store, which would
you choose? Needless to say, the difficulty level should be rather low,
and there should be animals as well as non-animals.

In your answers, please list model name, designer, and publication
information. Of course, I will contact the respective authors for
permission before using their ideas.

Please consider taking a few minutes of your time to ponder my question
and mail the results to me. Your answers *will* make a difference.

In advance, I thank you for
your participation,

Mathias.





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 08:07:05 -1000
Subject: Re: How to make friends ?  (was Re: Origami for the Masses)

I've been folding Peter Engel's butterfly fish in my origami business
and have been very successful with it.  People love it. I love it.
I have never folded everything in any given book nor have I attempted
to.  I don't think I can say that I like or dislike the STYLE of any
creator  because each model seems to be an entity in itself.  Some
things appeal to me so I attempt to fold it.   At times I just love the
picture but when I fold it, its no way near what the picture looks like
and my folding ability cannot make it get there.  I always take the
credit for the way the end product looks.  I do think there is a general
creating style and a lot of the models in a creator's book kinda looks
like it was created by the same person but unless you look at each model
and try the ones you want to replicate, you will very likely miss one
that you may deem outstanding by caboshing the creator's book as a
whole.  Thus you may like his kangaroo but hate his giraffe.  So it
can't be true that you "hate Peter Engel's models".
Aloha, Jan





From: Carol Martinson <carolm47@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:39:20 -0800
Subject: Origami Sighting

     This appeared in the St. Paul Pioneer Press on Thursday, March 18,
1999.  Unfortunately they are implying that origami is a strange
activity.

StrangeTV

>From the Wisdom Channel and Chop TV to Origami, cable television is
primed for a wave of ever-more-oddball shows. Can you pick the real
channels from the ones we made up?

BRIAN LAMBERT MEDIA CRITIC
....
  Origami -- Experts provide information and instruction in fine Asian
and Polynesian arts. Plus theatrical films and ethnic entertainment.
August 1999.
....

The fakes -- yes, we just made 'em up -- are: Anger and Stress TV; Barn
TV; CardShark-21; Cinemax-Stinkermax; C-SPAN Feud; GasTV; Judy! Judy!
Judy!; Origami; WankerVideo.

     Carol Martinson

_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com





From: hecht <hecht@CWIX.COM>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:32:30 -0800
Subject: New diagram available ($ butterfly)

I've placed diagrams for my "$ Butterfly" model on my site:

The URL is:  http://www.serve.com/hecht/origami/origami.htm

I appreciate feedback regarding:
    A.  problems browsing the site
    B.  clarity of the diagrams (graphical and textual)
    C.  errors and oversights
    D.  ideas for improvements/variations in the models

--Steve Hecht





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 19:02:34 -0800
Subject: Origami Sighting ?

Someone told me that at the recent Academy Awards presentation (U.S.A) one
actress wore an origami gown or skirt.  Does anyone know who or any details?

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
madawson@sprynet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Martinson <carolm47@YAHOO.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 3:50 PM
Subject: Origami Sighting

>     This appeared in the St. Paul Pioneer Press on Thursday, March 18,
>1999.  Unfortunately they are implying that origami is a strange
>activity.
>
>StrangeTV
>
>From the Wisdom Channel and Chop TV to Origami, cable television is
>primed for a wave of ever-more-oddball shows. Can you pick the real
>channels from the ones we made up?
>
>BRIAN LAMBERT MEDIA CRITIC
>....
>  Origami -- Experts provide information and instruction in fine Asian
>and Polynesian arts. Plus theatrical films and ethnic entertainment.
>August 1999.
>....
>
>The fakes -- yes, we just made 'em up -- are: Anger and Stress TV; Barn
>TV; CardShark-21; Cinemax-Stinkermax; C-SPAN Feud; GasTV; Judy! Judy!
>Judy!; Origami; WankerVideo.
>
>     Carol Martinson
>
>
>_________________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 19:43:48 +0100
Subject: Re: Diagramming

Peter,
At 00.37 24/3/1999 -0500, you wrote:

>Joseph Wu wrote:
>
>>Oh, so I guess it's too late for me. I don't have diagrams ...
>undocumented. >And yet I can remember how to fold most of them.
>
>Than it means it's not too late! ;-)  I wanna buy your book!

As far as I understand, if you want to fold the "undocumented" you have to
buy Joseph in flesh and brain, not the book...... ;)

Roberto





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:33:01 -0800
Subject: Re: How to make friends ?  (was Re: Origami for the Masses)

At 17:17 99/03/25 +0100, you wrote:
>        I know some people will be upset by my lack of political
>correctness, but I don't like this model !
>
>        And on a more general basis, I don't like Peter Engel's models !

Well, Peter is not on this list (at least, not under his real name), so I
guess he won't be able to reply here.

Anyway, I would have to agree with you in general!

>    The reason is simple : the ratio difficulty/beauty is very high (which
>means that they are very difficult to fold, and are not nice - at least to
>my personnal taste !)

Yes, that is mostly true.

>        Take his Elephant.   the bogy is too long, the tusks start almost
>halfway in the trump, the legs are anything but an elephant's, ...

Actually, the legs are not too bad. Most elephants have thinner legs than
most people think. The feet, however, should be wider.

>        His Tiger is ugly !  Peter Engel has this poor animal the 4 legs
>appart.

It is interesting to note that Maekawa developed the same base for folding
four-legged animals.

>        His Snake is funny, but once done, it doesn't look THAT much to a
>snake.   Peter, please take a book and look at any picture of a snake.
>They are NOT staying like springs, cylinder-like.   The idea is funny, but
>the result is poor.

Herman van Goubergen's snake is much more life-like and it also captures the
idea of a "coiling" snake.

>        The problem with Peter Engel's models is that they lack "life", they
>lack the artistic touch.  They seems to have been designed by a engineer.
>It's cold !

This is true of the models presented in his book. To be more specific, it is
the way that they are presented in his book that makes them "lack 'life'".
However, Peter's more recent models are much more lively, and I recall Tom
Hull talking about Peter's display at the Otsu origami math & science
conference. Tom said that Peter's presentation was beautiful, and that he
had brought along rocks and dirt to complete the arrangement of the settings.

>        There is only ONE Engel's model I like : his Kangoroo.

The butterfly, though extremely complex, is quite elegant, as are the
octopus and the squid.

>                So, Engel's friends and fans, tell YOUR story !   Tell me
>why you like his models.  Tell me why I am wrong.

>            JJ Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasalongaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>The Mad corsican folder (who has been asleep for some time)

I wish I was able to sleep last night... Lots of coffee for me today!

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