




From: "origami.no" <origamino@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 05:28:38 -0800
Subject: Japanese on-line bookstores?

Hi,
Does any body know of any Japanese on-line bookstores, especially
those spezializing in origami books, which offer convenient and secure
international ordering system like Amazon.com?

I am looking for ways to buy new Origami Architecture books directly
from Japan, but so far have not found any on-line Japanese bookstores
yet.

I would really appreciate any input from you all. Thank you in advance.

Sincerely,
Alex Husdal

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From: Bugly <amyg@AZSTARNET.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 06:21:22 -0500
Subject: Re: book quality

-- [ From: Bugly * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

> reprints of
> old Harbin type books, while excellent for the specialist, are not going
to
> bring more folks into the 'fold'!

I was rather distressed to see this statement, since at age 8, when I was
still very much in my "fatter must be better" reading phase bought one of
those Harbin reprints, and have been folding ever since.

I must add that while that book is no longer one of my favorites, it was
probably the best bridge into serious origami that I could have found, since
up until that point, I hadn't been aware that there was more to origami than
the traditional crane.

Sincerely,
     Amy Goncharsky





From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@DORSAI.ORG>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:09:59 -0500
Subject: Origami sighting Citibank

iToday's NY Daily News carries a two page Citibank ad where one page says
something about be fruitful and multiply. The major portion of that page is
filled with dollar bill rabbits!
--
---
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.org
sheldon_ackerman@fc1.nycenet.edu





From: Jeff DeHerdt <jadeherd@IUPUI.EDU>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:44:08 -0500
Subject: Alternate folds

        Thanks Joseph, Kalei and D'gou for answering my questions about
the Kawasaki rose. I've tried all the methods, but haven't decided which
one I'm more comfortable with. They all work of course ;).
        But, that got me thinking. Given a certain crease pattern, is
there a certain number of permutations that the model can undergo(not
necessarily an viable, presentable model, but an alternate way of
folding)? Since a single crease can only be a mountain or a valley would
that limit the number to 2^N, where N is the number of creases? I'm sure
there is a lot of trigonometry/geometry that I'm missing here, but I was
just curious. Sometimes I use a different model's crease patterns to
create a new model(sometimes unintentionally), so I'm wondering if there
is a certain amount of times I can mess up..err...create a different model
out of an existing crease pattern.

                                Thanks,
                                        Jeffrey DeHerdt





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:45:44 +0000
Subject: Re: BOS Booklet request

Jonathan J. Picker <Verdigris@EARTHLINK.NET> sez

>how many pounds you spend and I will send you the money along with the
>postage it will take to mail them to me.  I don't want to be a bother so if
>you don't want the additional hassle in your life, simply say so.

Why not just order them from BOS supplies? Send *them* the money & they
will send you anything you want! Check the on-line ordering form at the
BOS website...

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:33:53 +0100
Subject: Sheet metal Origami

Had virtually no response to my last email on the subject -- offering sheet
copper about .003" thick at cost for an informal folding contest -- so I am
abandoning the idea for now.

Here is another offer. I will cut up 20 soda cans and send the resuting 3"
x 7" flat sheets of the .005" thick aluminum sheet to the first twenty
people who ask for it -- free of charge -- if they promise to write back
and tell me what they think of the material as a craft material -- and if
they promise to send me a photo of anything they make with the material.

Anybody out there interested in trying something different?? By the way --
it is easy to cut up soda cans if you want to try it yourself. Use any
scissors or a sharp craft knife --- just be careful of the sharp
edges.Should be a good material for all sorts of projects.

Please reply off-list

Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
<<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: ROCKYGROD@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:39:40 -0500 (
Subject: Thanks-Bucky Ball request

    Thanks to all the math, chemistry and origami wizards who helped me out
with my quest for a "bucky ball."  Actually I had folded the modular
soccerball from Origami Ominibus-not realizing that it was a "bucky ball!!"

     But from all the helpful hints --- I think the triangular module from 3 D
Geometric Origami will be the best bet for this young ladies' project.

     Thanks again!

Patty





From: Bruce Stephens <B.Stephens@ISODE.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:02:40 +0000
Subject: Re: book quality

Bugly <amyg@AZSTARNET.COM> writes:

> I was rather distressed to see this statement, since at age 8, when I was
> still very much in my "fatter must be better" reading phase bought one of
> those Harbin reprints, and have been folding ever since.
>
> I must add that while that book is no longer one of my favorites, it was
> probably the best bridge into serious origami that I could have found, since
> up until that point, I hadn't been aware that there was more to origami than
> the traditional crane.

I know what you mean, but there are much better books now (and some
that aren't nearly as good, IMHO).  Several of Paul Jackson's books,
for example, are more than worthy alternatives to Harbin for addicting
someone to origami.  Harbin's "Origami 1", "2", "3", and "4" were
cheap paperbacks, which isn't true of Jackson's books (or the Biddles'
books)---but once they're remaindered they're a sensible price.





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:43:55 -0800
Subject: Re: Sheet metal Origami

At 12:33 99/03/12 +0100, you wrote:
>Here is another offer. I will cut up 20 soda cans and send the resuting 3"
>x 7" flat sheets of the .005" thick aluminum sheet to the first twenty
>people who ask for it -- free of charge -- if they promise to write back
>and tell me what they think of the material as a craft material -- and if
>they promise to send me a photo of anything they make with the material.
>
>Anybody out there interested in trying something different?? By the way --
>it is easy to cut up soda cans if you want to try it yourself. Use any
>scissors or a sharp craft knife --- just be careful of the sharp
>edges.Should be a good material for all sorts of projects.

I've had limited success with this particular material in the past. Perhaps
I wasn't doing it right somehow. Aluminum cans seem to have a very definite
"grain" in the sheet formation, and any creases along the height of the can
seem to crack very easily and split. I have much more success making little
"primitive" idol-type heads out of soda cans. I did one of these at the BOS
30th anniversary convention and Paulo Mulatinho couldn't stop laughing at
it, he enjoyed it so much.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:03:42 +0100
Subject: Re: Sheet metal Origami

SEE CAPS BELOW
>At 12:33 99/03/12 +0100, you wrote:
>>Here is another offer. I will cut up 20 soda cans and send the resuting 3"
>>x 7" flat sheets of the .005" thick aluminum sheet to the first twenty
>>people who ask for it -- free of charge -- if they promise to write back
>>and tell me what they think of the material as a craft material -- and if
>>they promise to send me a photo of anything they make with the material.
>>
>>Anybody out there interested in trying something different?? By the way --
>>it is easy to cut up soda cans if you want to try it yourself. Use any
>>scissors or a sharp craft knife --- just be careful of the sharp
>>edges.Should be a good material for all sorts of projects.
>
>I've had limited success with this particular material in the past. Perhaps
>I wasn't doing it right somehow. Aluminum cans seem to have a very definite
>"grain" in the sheet formation, and any creases along the height of the can
>seem to crack very easily and split.

I WILL CHECK THIS OUT -- THANKS FOR THE WARNING. PERHAPS I CAN ANNEAL
THEM?? -- I'LL ASK A FRIEND WHO IS A METALS EXPERT.

I have much more success making little
>"primitive" idol-type heads out of soda cans.

IN THE ROUND?? HAVE ANY PHOTOS??

I did one of these at the BOS
>30th anniversary convention and Paulo Mulatinho couldn't stop laughing at
>it, he enjoyed it so much.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
>t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
>w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca

Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
<<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:06:56 +0100
Subject: Re: Sheet metal Origami

Would be interesting to see what can be done with soda can material -- even
if there is a grain problem -- just another limitation to work around?? If
it were too easy -- it wouldn't be a challenge.

Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
<<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:50:38 -0800
Subject: Re: Sheet metal Origami

At 16:03 99/03/12 +0100, Martin wrote:
>>At 12:33 99/03/12 +0100, Joseph wrote:
>>I've had limited success with this particular material in the past. Perhaps
>>I wasn't doing it right somehow. Aluminum cans seem to have a very definite
>>"grain" in the sheet formation, and any creases along the height of the can
>>seem to crack very easily and split.
>
>I WILL CHECK THIS OUT -- THANKS FOR THE WARNING. PERHAPS I CAN ANNEAL
>THEM?? -- I'LL ASK A FRIEND WHO IS A METALS EXPERT.

Not all cans exhibit this behaviour. Coke cans (which are usually easiest
for me to get ahold of) do split. The can I cut up just now (see below) did
not.

>I have much more success making little
>>"primitive" idol-type heads out of soda cans.
>
>IN THE ROUND?? HAVE ANY PHOTOS??

No, but I just made one and scanned it. You can see the scan at
<http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/Pictures/can-head.jpg>.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:50:26 -0800
Subject: Re: Sheet Metal Origami

I'm sorry to have missed Martin's offer of .003" copper. I've played around
with it before, but ended up wishing that I could afford 5' squares--and
that's just a fiscal sock to the teeth that I could live without, so I
switched to 4and5' squares of aluminum, ten foot squares of steel. I've
toyed with the idea of origami metal furniture sculpture, and would love to
know if anyone knows some folds that might be appropriate. Also if anyone
knows of some helpful hints about resin-coating large squares of paper.
Every time I try to fold a large elephant, I find the paper lacks adequite
rigidity to stand free. Any and all input appreciated. Happy folding!!! -c





From: Marcia Mau <maumoy@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:24:35 -0800 (
Subject: Dollar Bill Rabbits

The 2 page Citibank ad was also the centerfold in the first section of
the New York Times today.  Are the rabbits origami?  If so, who should
we credit?

Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA
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From: Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 08:02:55 -0700
Subject: Re: Japanese on-line bookstores?

>Date:    Fri, 12 Mar 1999 05:28:38 -0800
>From:    "origami.no" <origamino@YAHOO.COM>
>Subject: Japanese on-line bookstores?

>Hi,
>Does any body know of any Japanese on-line bookstores, especially
>those spezializing in origami books, which offer convenient and secure
>international ordering system like Amazon.com?

Well, Kinokuniya has an online store along the lines of Amazon:

http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/

but you need a Japanese browser to shop here. I hope that they will soon
have some English-language pages. Given their large worldwide prescence, I
expect they will eventually develop some for internet sales.

If any English-language, large Japanese online bookstores develop, I expect
you will see them listed at http://www.acses.com/bookstores.html.

ciao.

pat slider.





From: Krystyna i Wojciech Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 08:53:49 +0100
Subject: Web page update

I have uploaded English version of polyhedra with domes gallery.
Start from my home page:
http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/index-en.html
and follow "Origami polyhedra with domes" link
or directly from a new gallery
http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/origami/galery3-en.htm

I appreciate any comments.

Wojtek





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:46:43 +0100
Subject: Functional Origami

>From the 3/15/99 New Yorker, page 9  -- "...the (1972 Jefferson Airplane
album 'Long John Silver') record's jacket was so designed so that, with a
little folding, it formed a marijuana stash box..."

Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
<<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Joyce Saler <ladyada@TIAC.NET>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 22:11:37 -0400
Subject: Robt. Neale's dollar bunny in a hat

In a recent BOS bulletin, a  correspondent described a Robt. Neale money
fold, the bunny in a hat, as a good model to teach ten year olds. Does
anyone know a diagram source for this model?

Thanks.

Joyce Saler





From: Allen Parry <parry@ESKIMO.COM>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 22:45:43 -0800
Subject: Re: Dollar Bill Rabbits

On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Marcia Mau wrote:

> The 2 page Citibank ad was also the centerfold in the first section of
> the New York Times today.  Are the rabbits origami?  If so, who should
> we credit?

Marcia,

I understand the creator to be Roz Joyce.  A new model she has recently
come up with.  I haven't seen it yet, though I'd like to.

Allen Parry
parry@eskimo.com





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 00:02:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Robt. Neale's dollar bunny in a hat

Joyce Saler asked:

+In a recent BOS bulletin, a  correspondent described a Robt. Neale money
+fold, the bunny in a hat, as a good model to teach ten year olds. Does
+anyone know a diagram source for this model?

Origami USA sells a booklet with just that model:
http://www.origami-usa.org/

-D'gou





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 02:06:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Sheet Metal Origami

Hi metal folders!

At 06:50 PM 3/12/99 -0800, you wrote:
>I'm sorry to have missed Martin's offer of .003" copper. I've played around
>with it before, but ended up wishing that I could afford 5' squares--and
>that's just a fiscal sock to the teeth that I could live without, so I
>switched to 4and5' squares of aluminum, ten foot squares of steel.

Hmmm. Steel sheets? That might perhaps involve *red-hot-folding*? (Please
forgive this for me, I've *wet-folded* much today).

On the serious side, I am really curious about folding *steel*. Aluminum I
can imagine, copper I can imagine (but hey, isn't that a bit
"washi"-priced?), but steel?

--Joseph, be careful with those Coke cans! They can give a nasty cut---

Happy folding! And don't forget your hammers!

Peter Budai





From: Daniel Say <say@SFU.CA>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 04:59:28 -0800
Subject: Gerson Legman obit (NYTimes)

X-within-URL: http://verify.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-legman.html

  New York Times     March 14, 1999

Gershon Legman, Anthologist of Erotic Humor, Dies at 81

      By JANNY SCOTT

     G ershon Legman, a self-taught scholar of dirty jokes and bawdy
     limericks and ballads who played a pivotal role in opening up the
     field of erotic folklore to scholarly study in the 1960s and 70s,
     died on Feb. 23 at a hospital near his home in Opio, France. He was
     81.

     Legman is best known as the author of a two-volume psychoanalytic
     study of sexual and scatological humor titled "Rationale of the
     Dirty Joke" and as an industrious anthologist of limericks. He also
     published books on violence in comic books, oral sex and various
     aspects of erotic folklore.

     He accumulated what has been described as one of the world's
     largest collections of published and unpublished erotic and
     scatological literature, and served as a kind of intermediary for
     scholars worldwide, maintaining a voluminous correspondence from
     his home in a hill town on the Riviera.

     A tireless autodidact, he was credited with a role in introducing
     the art of Japanese paper-folding to the West. In interviews, he
     also said he had developed a vibrator in the late 1930s and coined
     the phrase "Make love, not war" during a talk at the University of
     Ohio in 1963.

     At his death, after a series of strokes that began in 1991, he left
     behind several unpublished manuscripts, including a two-volume book
     on ballads that he had worked on for years and an autobiography
     that his wife, Judith, said he had lost the desire to complete
     after he became ill.

     In addition to his wife, he is survived by their three children,
     David, of Summit, N.J., and Rafael and Sarah, of Opio, and by his
     daughter Ariela, of Amsterdam. Mrs. Legman, his wife since 1966,
     said she was unsure whether their marriage was his second or third.

     The son of immigrants from Eastern Europe, Legman grew up in
     Scranton, Pa. His parents, he said, expected him to become a rabbi.
     But he became interested in erotica at an early age and took to
     clipping racy jokes out of magazines, pasting them on index cards
     and filing them by subject.

     He dropped out of college in his first semester, his wife said. In
     interviews, Legman said he had traveled across the country
     lecturing on contraception for organizations that promoted birth
     control and being arrested for violating anti-obscenity statutes.

     Eventually, he landed in New York, took a series of odd jobs and
     began spending long hours at the New York Public Library,
     cultivating what his wife called "his interest in all that was
     erotic and at that time completely forbidden except in medical
     circles."

     In the late 1940s, he became editor of Neurotica, a short-lived
     Freudian quarterly. Along with work by Allen Ginsberg, Marshall
     McLuhan and others, he published his own essays attacking violence
     in comic books, which later appeared in his first book, "Love and
     Death: A Study in Censorship."

     In the book, Legman questioned why children were exposed to lurid
     depictions of violence but shielded from descriptions of people
     making love. After publishers rejected the manuscript, he published
     it himself and distributed it by mail out of his book-cluttered
     house in the Bronx.

     Shortly afterward, the postal service stopped delivering his mail,
     Legman said. So he moved to France with his first wife, Beverly
     Keith, in 1953. They settled eventually on the Riviera, having
     arrived one day by train and having been overwhelmed by the sight
     of the bougainvillea, Judith Legman said.

     Legman's first anthology, "The Limerick," appeared in France in
     1953 and later in the United States. Like much of his work, it was
     encyclopedic; it contained 1,739 limericks. In 1977, Crown
     Publishers published a sequel, "The New Limerick," with 2,750.

     "Rationale of the Dirty Joke" came out in 1968, published by Grove
     Press. A second volume, "No Laughing Matter: Rationale of the Dirty
     Joke, 2d Series," appeared in 1975. In it, Legman sorted more than
     2,000 jokes into categories like "sex and money," "castration" and
     "homosexuality."

     In a review in Time magazine, R.Z. Sheppard called the book "an
     undeniable presence, a work of majestic ego that was weathered by
     new attitudes and ideas long before completion." The review
     continued: "In the future, it will be plundered, measured and
     thumbed through for titillation. But the book will remain
     impervious in all its pocked dignity, authenticity and embattled
     romanticism."

     Among Legman's other books are "The Horn Book: Studies in Erotic
     Folklore and Bibliography" and "Oragenitalism," on oral sex.

     A devotee of paper-folding, he put together a bibliography on the
     topic in the early 1950s and is said to have helped initiate a
     museum exhibition on origami in Amsterdam.

     Bruce Jackson, a professor of American culture at the State
     University of New York at Buffalo and the author of a 1974 book on
     narrative poetry from the black oral tradition, said Legman made
     accessible to other scholars material that scholarly journals had
     long been afraid to publish.

     "Legman is the person, more than any other, who made research into
     erotic folklore and erotic verbal behavior academically
     respectable," Jackson said. "He's utterly famous in the world of
     erotica for what he did -- for making these materials accessible by
     providing them freely to anyone who asked and for finding stuff
     that nobody else knew about."





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 09:31:48 +0100
Subject: Re: site idea

Amazing -- my son and I got the same idea about a month ago and just last
week we put 10 simple patterns up -- each in eight colors-- on our website
for free downloading. Go to papershops.com and check them out --- under
free stuff. We would be delighted to put your patterns up on our site --
with full credit to you of course. Our ultimate goal is to develop the
internet's largest repository of free downloadable patterns and images.

>Sometimes I make my own patterned paper on the computer for origami.
>What I would like to know is do you think people would
>like for me to post them for them to print out for their own use?
>free of charge even.
>need input
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Marcus Hanson's Digital Gallery
>http://www.members.tripod.com/~MarcH_3/index.html
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
<<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 10:32:08 -0600
Subject: site idea

Sometimes I make my own patterned paper on the computer for origami.
What I would like to know is do you think people would
like for me to post them for them to print out for their own use?
free of charge even.
need input

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marcus Hanson's Digital Gallery
http://www.members.tripod.com/~MarcH_3/index.html





From: Rosalind F Joyce <fold4wet@JUNO.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 11:15:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Dollar Bill Rabbits

Wabbit from Citibank ad is modification of traditional.  The really nice
bunny I initially made up wasn't chosen, will probably go into convention
'99 annual collection if it was submitted in time.  Good stuff for ego
file.  Ros

"If you do origami for nothing, that is the value most people will put on
it."  Wisdom from Lillian too many years ago.

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From: Christopher Holt <Ella-mae@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 11:46:14 -0800
Subject: Re: site idea re:re:re:re:....

I've taken to downloading fractal patterns from the fractals newsgroup and
using them for folds. If you hunt around, you can usually find a fractal for
just about any fold. I think the idea of paper patterns specifically for
origami has promise (I'd use it). All the best-c

>Amazing -- my son and I got the same idea about a month ago and just last
>week we put 10 simple patterns up -- each in eight colors-- on our website
>for free downloading. Go to papershops.com and check them out --- under
>free stuff. We would be delighted to put your patterns up on our site --
>with full credit to you of course. Our ultimate goal is to develop the
>internet's largest repository of free downloadable patterns and images.
>
>
>>Sometimes I make my own patterned paper on the computer for origami.
>>What I would like to know is do you think people would
>>like for me to post them for them to print out for their own use?
>>free of charge even.
>>need input
>>
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Marcus Hanson's Digital Gallery
>>http://www.members.tripod.com/~MarcH_3/index.html
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
>TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
>WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
><<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Elizabeth George <emgeorge@MSN.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 22:57:21 -0500
Subject: Re: origami sighting

    The April issue of house beautiful has a one page article titled Origami
Textiles. It features a Parisian designer, Pietro Seminelli. The article
mentions fabrics of ramie, jute, hemp, horsehair, linen, pineapple fiber,
and a blend of silk and paper, which are made into curtains, shades,
tablecloths, napkins, runners, placemats, cushions, screens, room dividers,
bed covers, etc. It goes on to say he employs one 'folder' and two part time
seamstresses (apparently most of the folding is subsequently stitched). Work
is all special order, and judging from the photos quite lovely, although not
as intricate as the fabric folding of Chris Palmer.
    (This is a quick overview, I had to read fast, the magazine stinks from
perfume ad insertions!!)





From: "origami.no" <origamino@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 23:12:31 -0800
Subject: Re: Japanese on-line bookstores?

Hi Pat,
Thanks a lot for your info. I will check them out. It is quite difficult
to obtain origami and origami architecture books since I live in
Norway.
Online bookstores are certainly a big help.

Thanks again.

Alex
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http://www.origami.no

e-mail: shop@origami.no
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--- Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM> wrote:
> >Date:    Fri, 12 Mar 1999 05:28:38 -0800
> >From:    "origami.no" <origamino@YAHOO.COM>
> >Subject: Japanese on-line bookstores?
>
> >Hi,
> >Does any body know of any Japanese on-line bookstores, especially
> >those spezializing in origami books, which offer convenient and
> secure
> >international ordering system like Amazon.com?
>
> Well, Kinokuniya has an online store along the lines of Amazon:
>
> http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/
>
> but you need a Japanese browser to shop here. I hope that they will
> soon
> have some English-language pages. Given their large worldwide
> prescence, I
> expect they will eventually develop some for internet sales.
>
> If any English-language, large Japanese online bookstores develop, I
> expect
> you will see them listed at http://www.acses.com/bookstores.html.
>
>
> ciao.
>
> pat slider.
>

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From: Dave Venables <davevenables@USA.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:26:03 -0700 (
Subject: Gerson Legman obit (NYTimes)

Hi Neal,

not wanting to depress you but you may not of heard.
I got this via the origami list.

Love to Betty

Best Wishes

Dave

  New York Times     March 14, 1999

Gershon Legman, Anthologist of Erotic Humor, Dies at 81

      By JANNY SCOTT

     G ershon Legman, a self-taught scholar of dirty jokes and bawdy
     limericks and ballads who played a pivotal role in opening up the
     field of erotic folklore to scholarly study in the 1960s and 70s,
     died on Feb. 23 at a hospital near his home in Opio, France. He was
     81.

     Legman is best known as the author of a two-volume psychoanalytic
     study of sexual and scatological humor titled "Rationale of the
     Dirty Joke" and as an industrious anthologist of limericks. He also
     published books on violence in comic books, oral sex and various
     aspects of erotic folklore.

     He accumulated what has been described as one of the world's
     largest collections of published and unpublished erotic and
     scatological literature, and served as a kind of intermediary for
     scholars worldwide, maintaining a voluminous correspondence from
     his home in a hill town on the Riviera.

     A tireless autodidact, he was credited with a role in introducing
     the art of Japanese paper-folding to the West. In interviews, he
     also said he had developed a vibrator in the late 1930s and coined
     the phrase "Make love, not war" during a talk at the University of
     Ohio in 1963.

     At his death, after a series of strokes that began in 1991, he left
     behind several unpublished manuscripts, including a two-volume book
     on ballads that he had worked on for years and an autobiography
     that his wife, Judith, said he had lost the desire to complete
     after he became ill.

     In addition to his wife, he is survived by their three children,
     David, of Summit, N.J., and Rafael and Sarah, of Opio, and by his
     daughter Ariela, of Amsterdam. Mrs. Legman, his wife since 1966,
     said she was unsure whether their marriage was his second or third.

     The son of immigrants from Eastern Europe, Legman grew up in
     Scranton, Pa. His parents, he said, expected him to become a rabbi.
     But he became interested in erotica at an early age and took to
     clipping racy jokes out of magazines, pasting them on index cards
     and filing them by subject.

     He dropped out of college in his first semester, his wife said. In
     interviews, Legman said he had traveled across the country
     lecturing on contraception for organizations that promoted birth
     control and being arrested for violating anti-obscenity statutes.

     Eventually, he landed in New York, took a series of odd jobs and
     began spending long hours at the New York Public Library,
     cultivating what his wife called "his interest in all that was
     erotic and at that time completely forbidden except in medical
     circles."

     In the late 1940s, he became editor of Neurotica, a short-lived
     Freudian quarterly. Along with work by Allen Ginsberg, Marshall
     McLuhan and others, he published his own essays attacking violence
     in comic books, which later appeared in his first book, "Love and
     Death: A Study in Censorship."

     In the book, Legman questioned why children were exposed to lurid
     depictions of violence but shielded from descriptions of people
     making love. After publishers rejected the manuscript, he published
     it himself and distributed it by mail out of his book-cluttered
     house in the Bronx.

     Shortly afterward, the postal service stopped delivering his mail,
     Legman said. So he moved to France with his first wife, Beverly
     Keith, in 1953. They settled eventually on the Riviera, having
     arrived one day by train and having been overwhelmed by the sight
     of the bougainvillea, Judith Legman said.

     Legman's first anthology, "The Limerick," appeared in France in
     1953 and later in the United States. Like much of his work, it was
     encyclopedic; it contained 1,739 limericks. In 1977, Crown
     Publishers published a sequel, "The New Limerick," with 2,750.

     "Rationale of the Dirty Joke" came out in 1968, published by Grove
     Press. A second volume, "No Laughing Matter: Rationale of the Dirty
     Joke, 2d Series," appeared in 1975. In it, Legman sorted more than
     2,000 jokes into categories like "sex and money," "castration" and
     "homosexuality."

     In a review in Time magazine, R.Z. Sheppard called the book "an
     undeniable presence, a work of majestic ego that was weathered by
     new attitudes and ideas long before completion." The review
     continued: "In the future, it will be plundered, measured and
     thumbed through for titillation. But the book will remain
     impervious in all its pocked dignity, authenticity and embattled
     romanticism."

     Among Legman's other books are "The Horn Book: Studies in Erotic
     Folklore and Bibliography" and "Oragenitalism," on oral sex.

     A devotee of paper-folding, he put together a bibliography on the
     topic in the early 1950s and is said to have helped initiate a
     museum exhibition on origami in Amsterdam.

     Bruce Jackson, a professor of American culture at the State
     University of New York at Buffalo and the author of a 1974 book on
     narrative poetry from the black oral tradition, said Legman made
     accessible to other scholars material that scholarly journals had
     long been afraid to publish.

     "Legman is the person, more than any other, who made research into
     erotic folklore and erotic verbal behavior academically
     respectable," Jackson said. "He's utterly famous in the world of
     erotica for what he did -- for making these materials accessible by
     providing them freely to anyone who asked and for finding stuff
     that nobody else knew about."
     _________________________________________________________________

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From: Andy Carpenter <Andy.Carpenter@MCI.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:39:19 -0700
Subject: Change in web site address & new photo's

Due to technical difficulties I had to change the address of my Home Page
to:

http://carpo.home.mindspring.com/

Also I added a photograph of a new model based (very heavily) on Momotani's
coach as photographed in Paul Jackson's Encyclopedia of Origami and
Papercraft Techniques. Yes I know it's not strictly an 'original' but I
couldn't resist the challenge and I learnt an amazing amount about
limitations of various types of paper and my abilities during this exercise.

I believe I have adequately recognized Mr Momotani (see Gallery, Andy folds)
and if/when I diagram it I will of course ensure his name is prominently
mentioned.

I also changed the photo of my snail (see Gallery, Andy folds) and hope to
have the diagrams complete for that in the next week or so.





From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:07:17 +0800
Subject: book quality

Amy Goncharsky seemed upset that I 'knocked' Harbin's books - I agree that
most of us 'senior' folders  started on similar books, (My first is in
Japanese and is dated 1967) but I know that my 7-year-old never touches my
old black and white books.  She prefers the brightly coloured Sanrio books
or Paul Jackson's and the like - in fact, her current favourite is one by
the Biddles - I bought about 10 in a discount shop for Birthday presents!
I guess in an age of colour TV and computer games,  - and cheaper colour
books, I guess I know which I also prefer!





From: Carol Martinson <carolm47@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:57:29 -0800
Subject: Origami Sighting

     Last Wednesday we had the television program Chicago Hope on.   I
was in the room, but not watching, when I heard a character say "It's
called origami."   I quickly turned around, but they were already
focusing on something else.  The model kept reappearing throughout the
scene, greatly out-of-focus and head-on.   All I can say for sure is
that it had wings.  It might have been a crane, but somehow I got the
impression it was a pegasus.

     The episode was the one where one of the doctor's does not want
to put his dog to sleep.  Maybe when it shows up in reruns, one of us
will catch what the model actually is.  It was in one of the first
scenes.

     Carol Martinson

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From: hecht <hecht@CWIX.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:31:45 -0800
Subject: New diagram available ($ dragonfly 1)

I've placed diagrams for my "$ Dragonfly 1" model on my site:

The URL is:  http://www.serve.com/hecht/origami/origami.htm

(please note: the PDF file is only 4 of 5 pages, you must also get
drgnfly5.gif -- don't even ask)

I appreciate feedback regarding:
    A.  problems browsing the site
    B.  clarity of the diagrams (graphical and textual)
    C.  errors and oversights
    D.  ideas for improvements/variations in the models

--Steve Hecht





From: melissa bond <w_or_w_out_u@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:45:44 -0800
Subject: Re: site idea

Marcus
I think it is a very good Idea to have paper at the browser's use! I
would be very interested in it!
melissa bond

---Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM> wrote:
>
> Sometimes I make my own patterned paper on the computer for origami.
> What I would like to know is do you think people would
> like for me to post them for them to print out for their own use?
> free of charge even.
> need input
>
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Marcus Hanson's Digital Gallery
> http://www.members.tripod.com/~MarcH_3/index.html
>
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>

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From: "Tadeo, Allen" <allen.tadeo@CAERE.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:48:12 -0800
Subject: Origami Screensaver

Hello Everyone,

I'm trying to find a good origami screensaver.  I downloaded Eiji Takano's
beautiful screensaver, but had problems installing it.  I'm curious if there
are any other sites out there that have any origami screensavers.  You may
e-mail me directly at:  atadeo@hotmail.com  Thank you.

Sincerely,

Allen





From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:12:07 -0600
Subject: Re: "Bucky ball"

I have a picture of a completed model made from Thomas Hull's modules on my
website.

http://home.i1.net/brett/origami.modular.html
<http://home.i1.net/brett/origami.modular.html>  and a link to his website
where the diagrams can be obtained.  Click the thumbnail for a full sized
picture.

I do WINDOWS but I don't do windows.
B R E T T

-----Original Message-----
From:   ROCKYGROD@AOL.COM [mailto:ROCKYGROD@AOL.COM]
Sent:   Tuesday, March 09, 1999 7:30 PM
To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        "Bucky ball"

A young high school student asked me if you could make a "bucky ball"  with
origami.  I really did not know what a "bucky ball" is but I told her I
would
try to find out.  I know it has to do something with pentagons and
chemistry.
I know there are a lot of math whizzes here on this list.  Any one can help
me?  If it is possible, is it diagrammed somewhere?  What level of folding
would you say it is?
This young lady has a project due in 3 weeks--any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,

Patty





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:53:07 -0800
Subject: Re: book quality

One of the folders in Folding California told me that her introduction
to...and subsequent lifelong love affair with origami began with
Florence Temko's "Paper Pandas and Jumping Frogs".

How I wish I would have had this book as a child!   It is a thoroughly
captivating introduction to origami with numerous projects to inspire
creative expression.

It's been published since 1986 and has become, I believe, somewhat of a
classic origami primer in schools.

Dorothy





From: Michael Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:23:00 +1100
Subject: Re: contacting TRC

On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Pat Slider wrote:

> Anyway, the point is, I can understand that they don't want to go through
> all this effort for a casual inquiry. It could potentially be a time
> investment for them of several hours.

Point taken. I can appreciate the customer-only policy, especially when
translation is required, but what I would have liked was at least a reply
to my e-mail - something along the lines of "you need to have an account
with us first" would have been fine. I was left feeling unsure as to
whether my message even got through. If I didn't happen to have the
information Pat passed along re: faxing your details, I would not have
known what to do next.

> Well, I'm a member of Sasuga's book club and while I do indeed I appreciate
> their service, I can't resist saying that I don't think I would use the
> phrase "reliable and punctual" to describe them. I expect that other Sasuga
> regulars will know exactly what I mean here :->.

Having only used this service half a dozen times, I guess I have been
lucky to date. The books I have wanted have always been available, and
shipped within a couple of days of my request.

Regards all,

Michael Janssen-Gibson





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:39:45 +0100
Subject: Re: Paper Tips

All the standard writing and text papers that are available in stationery
stores are available from distributors in larger sizes. We at
papershops.com would be happy to buy these papers in some quantity, stock
them  and make them available through our website if we knew what was
popular. Are you looking for plain, white, high quality sheets in about
.004" thickness? If not, what? Correspond either on the list or off.

Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
<<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Michael Smith <msmith@IOTEK.NS.CA>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:56:50 -0400
Subject: Paper Tips

Greetings,

I'm sure that this topic has been often covered, but I can't seem to find
what I'm looking for.

I've always folded with the commercially available papers and foils
available at book stores, craft stores and such.

My first problem is, the largest size of this type of paper I have been able
to find is 10".  For my first attempts at more complex models, I would
ideally like a paper in about an 18" size.  Any recommendations what to use
and where to get it?

Also, I have a project on the go that involves making several large swans,
36 or so.  I've chosen a nice swan model, and have determined that to
achieve the desired size, I need a paper size of about 25".  A light cream
color would be best.  Any suggestions of what to use in this case, keeping
in mind that I need 36 sheets, and would like to keep costs down :)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Michael

--
Michael Smith
Product Support Engineer
MacDonald Dettwiler and Assoc.
msmith@iotek.ns.ca





From: Carole Young <youngcj@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:49:19 -0600
Subject: Re: Paper Tips

I have had good luck with wrapping paper even foils, shipping brown
paper rolls and an old roll of doctor's office exam table paper
(white).  One of the neatest papers I used was the inside advertising
from a large picture frame 20 x 30.  It was a great weight.





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:44:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Paper Tips

Carole Young wrote:
>I have had good luck with wrapping paper even foils, <snip>

Indeed, wrapping paper can be excellent for folding.
Be careful though, because more and more often you will
find that stuff sold as "wrapping" is NOT paper. This is
extra true of foils.

Look for the important word "paper" on the packaging, or
if possible, sneak a corner out of the wrapping. (Shh. Don't
tell anyone I said that!)

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: "Tadeo, Allen" <allen.tadeo@CAERE.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:46:55 -0800
Subject: Re: Onion skin

Have you tried McWhorters?  I bought a pad of that stuff about 3 years ago
there.

Allen
allen.tadeo@caere.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Venables [mailto:davevenables@USA.NET]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 2:39 PM
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Onion skin

Hello All,

Amarins Hopman-de-Jong sadly passed away many years ago. She sent me any
cards
decorated with origami all folded from Onion skin paper. This is a bright
white wonderfully textured paper sold usually in pad form as air mail paper
(there may be other spins). I gained a supply eventually in the 70's from
Woolworths would you believe but this has long since gone. Any ideas where I
might get more?

Best Wishes

Dave Venables

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From: Dave Venables <davevenables@USA.NET>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:39:23 -0700 (
Subject: Onion skin

Hello All,

Amarins Hopman-de-Jong sadly passed away many years ago. She sent me any cards
decorated with origami all folded from Onion skin paper. This is a bright
white wonderfully textured paper sold usually in pad form as air mail paper
(there may be other spins). I gained a supply eventually in the 70's from
Woolworths would you believe but this has long since gone. Any ideas where I
might get more?

Best Wishes

Dave Venables

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From: "Wu, Sonia" <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 18:06:57 -0500
Subject: Re: David Shall's 5-Pointed Star

Hello, All--

Frank Beck, of our little Sarasota Florida origami club, would like very
much to obtain diagrams for the 5-Pointed Star designed by DAVID (not
Michael) Shall (apparently in a taxi on the way to a convention, legend
has it).

DISCLAIMER:  I'm pretty pathetic at things computerish; my attempts at
searching the archives for this would probably have drawn either hearty
guffaws, arch looks, or embarrassed harumphings from most of you.  So if
anyone can point me in the direction of the appropriate OUSA Convention
Annual or other book that houses the diagram, I'd be mightily grateful.

Sonia Wu





From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:54:04 +0900
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of Biruta Kresling?

She held an exhibition in Tokyo last month.
I didn't go but Anzai-san did.
He placed some pictures in his web site.
See http://www.cnet-sb.ne.jp/anzai/biruta.html

 _ _ _ _ _
|         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
|_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
|         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
|_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:36:14 -0600
Subject: Re: site idea

> Amazing -- my son and I got the same idea about a month ago and just last
> week we put 10 simple patterns up -- each in eight colors-- on our website
> for free downloading. Go to papershops.com and check them out --- under
> free stuff. We would be delighted to put your patterns up on our site --
> with full credit to you of course. Our ultimate goal is to develop the
> internet's largest repository of free downloadable patterns and images.

Thanks for the offer but I'm a perfectionist and control freak.
I need to do it myself.
much thanks to the rest for the input as well.
I do believe I will go through with the plan.
just don't expect it up and running to soon.

and to the guy who commented upon worth.
I must say personal satisfaction is far more
important than all else.
no one can take that away from you.
unless you let them.

___________________________________________
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http://www.members.tripod.com/~MarcH_3/index.html





From: Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 21:46:14 -0700
Subject: Re: contacting TRC

>Point taken. I can appreciate the customer-only policy, especially when
>translation is required, but what I would have liked was at least a reply
>to my e-mail - something along the lines of "you need to have an account
>with us first" would have been fine. I was left feeling unsure as to
>whether my message even got through.

Somehow I missed that they didn't even acknowledge your email. Atypical
behavior from my experience. All I can wonder is if they have a new
translator.

Hope they eventually connect with you.

ciao,

pat slider.

p.s. I feel like I should say that Sasuga eventually does come through or
says they can't get the book. I surely didn't mean to imply that they were
shady in any way, shape, or form. Their communications skills and
responsiveness are just below par.

And I think that I should also say that Fascinating Folds seems the best at
having their web pages truly represent their stock, communicating with you,
and getting the items shipped quickly. A class operation.





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:17:59 -0800
Subject: Re: Paper Tips

I often use wrapping paper, using an "L" shaped ruler (square) to get a 90
degree angle.  A friend "aquired" a fabulous role of white paper that was
the unused balance of paper used to line the aisle of a church for a
wedding.  It was an embossed white-on-white & good weight.  Also, try art
supply stores for the paper that teachers use to cover bulletin boards
(I think it is called "Fadeless") .  It comes in very wide widths.

MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson

madawson@sprynet .com
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Smith <msmith@IOTEK.NS.CA>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 8:09 AM
Subject: Paper Tips

>Greetings,
>
>I'm sure that this topic has been often covered, but I can't seem to find
>what I'm looking for.
>
>I've always folded with the commercially available papers and foils
>available at book stores, craft stores and such.
>
>My first problem is, the largest size of this type of paper I have been
able
>to find is 10".  For my first attempts at more complex models, I would
>ideally like a paper in about an 18" size.  Any recommendations what to use
>and where to get it?
>
>Also, I have a project on the go that involves making several large swans,
>36 or so.  I've chosen a nice swan model, and have determined that to
>achieve the desired size, I need a paper size of about 25".  A light cream
>color would be best.  Any suggestions of what to use in this case, keeping
>in mind that I need 36 sheets, and would like to keep costs down :)
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Cheers,
>Michael
>
>--
>Michael Smith
>Product Support Engineer
>MacDonald Dettwiler and Assoc.
>msmith@iotek.ns.ca





From: madawson <madawson@SPRYNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:19:56 -0800
Subject: Fw: Paper Tips

-----Original Message-----
From: madawson <madawson@sprynet.com>
To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Paper Tips

>I often use wrapping paper, using an "L" shaped ruler (square) to get a 90
>degree angle.  A friend "aquired" a fabulous role of white paper that was
>the unused balance of paper used to line the aisle of a church for a
>wedding.  It was an embossed white-on-white & good weight.  Also, try art
>supply stores for the paper that teachers use to cover bulletin boards
>(I think it is called "Fadeless") .  It comes in very wide widths.
>
>MaryAnn Scheblein-Dawson
>
>madawson@sprynet .com
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Smith <msmith@IOTEK.NS.CA>
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 8:09 AM
>Subject: Paper Tips
>
>
>>Greetings,
>>
>>I'm sure that this topic has been often covered, but I can't seem to find
>>what I'm looking for.
>>
>>I've always folded with the commercially available papers and foils
>>available at book stores, craft stores and such.
>>
>>My first problem is, the largest size of this type of paper I have been
>able
>>to find is 10".  For my first attempts at more complex models, I would
>>ideally like a paper in about an 18" size.  Any recommendations what to
use
>>and where to get it?
>>
>>Also, I have a project on the go that involves making several large swans,
>>36 or so.  I've chosen a nice swan model, and have determined that to
>>achieve the desired size, I need a paper size of about 25".  A light cream
>>color would be best.  Any suggestions of what to use in this case, keeping
>>in mind that I need 36 sheets, and would like to keep costs down :)
>>
>>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Michael
>>
>>--
>>Michael Smith
>>Product Support Engineer
>>MacDonald Dettwiler and Assoc.
>>msmith@iotek.ns.ca





From: Jeff DeHerdt <jadeherd@IUPUI.EDU>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:34:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Onion skin

        I bought some onion skin typing paper about 10 years ago from a
local stationary store. I'm not sure if this is the same type of onion
paper your looking for. If I remember correctly, it was almost transparent
and had a slight sheen to it. I may still have some of it, but I doubt it.

                                Jeffrey DeHerdt

On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Dave Venables wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Amarins Hopman-de-Jong sadly passed away many years ago. She sent me any cards
> decorated with origami all folded from Onion skin paper. This is a bright
> white wonderfully textured paper sold usually in pad form as air mail paper
> (there may be other spins). I gained a supply eventually in the 70's from
> Woolworths would you believe but this has long since gone. Any ideas where I
> might get more?
>
> Best Wishes
>
> Dave Venables
>
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From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:38:18 +0000
Subject: Re: Der Falter "BOS" edition - free!

DORIGAMI@AOL.COM sez

>Nick, How much American money for postage do we need to send for a free copy
>of Der Falter.  Dorigami

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. It turns out that 4
International Reply Coupons covers the postage to the States. No idea
what that will cost you, but if you think it worthwhile, send them with
an A5 addressed envelope to;

182 Mountview Road, Sheffield S8 8PL

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:45:57 +0000
Subject: Der Falter - free

A few weeks ago I offered a special BOS edition of Der Falter (with
English translation) free, but neglected to work out a means of posting
it to people!

It turns out that 4 International Reply Coupons covers the postage to
the States. No idea what that will cost you, but if you think it
worthwhile, send them with an A5 addressed envelope to;

Darker Than Blue (origami), Aizlewoods Mill, Nursery Street, Sheffield
S3 8GG, England

cheers,

Nick Robinson
nick@homelink.demon.co.uk

***Australian Origami is Shearing***
