




From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 04:18:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Paper folders in China

At 10:47 AM 2/9/99 -0800, Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA> wrote:
>At 12:10 99/02/09 -0500, Peter Budai wrote:
>>At 12:25 AM 2/8/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>>        So, does anyone know much about anyone specifically from China who
>>>has created origami books?
>
>Not to my knowledge. The Chinese seem to focus more on paper cutting.

I guess you forgot about yourself (you are famous and of Chinese origin,
right?). Then again, the original question was asking for origami authors,
so I guess you you do not meet the criteria yet (like I should talk).

Marc





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 02:57:19 -1000
Subject: Re: money folding books review needed

> Folding Money Fooling by Robert Neale
>
>
Where are you getting the Robert Neale booK?  I'm folding his dragon and
would love to hve more of his origami.   aloha, Jan
--
<http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





From: Marco Antonio Blanco <blancof@CABLE.NET.CO>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:15:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Colombian Origami page Updated

Como esta Josi Tomas:

Mi nombre es Marco Antonio Blanco y vivo en Bogota. Con unos amigos estamos
planeando formar un club de Origami y puede ser interesante ponernos en
contacto.

Yo tambiin estoy suscrito a la lista Origami-L, asm que podemos campartir
experiencias con ella.

Espero su respuesta pronto.

Marco Antonio Blanco
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@EIEE.UNIVALLE.EDU.CO>
Para: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Fecha: Viernes 5 de Febrero de 1999 02:00 AM
Asunto: Colombian Origami page Updated

Hello.
The Asociacion Vallecaucana de Origamistas' home page has new stuff!
There are reports and photos of the Colombian Conventions and new models.
Also the newspaper reports of the group, the activities for 1999 and more.
May be you can appear n some of the pictures!

Its URL is :
http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/origami.html

Take a look and please, tell me your comments.

Good luck,
Jose Tomas Buitrago





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:15:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Fuse Spirals book

Deborah Miller wrote:

> Am a fan of T. Fuse's modular box books and have been looking for the
> Tomoko Fuse "Spirals" book since it has gotten good press here recently but
> am having difficulty finding a dealer who can find it, much less carries
> it.  Even with the ISBN.  Can anyone please tell me a shop which might have
> it?

As always, when looking for origami stuff on the web, try "The Big Four"
which are:
        Origami USA's Store.  Start at:  http://www.origami-usa.org/
        Fascinating Folds:               http://www.fascinating-folds.com/
        Kim's Crane:                     http://www.kimscrane.com/
        Sasuga:                          http://www.sasugabooks.com/

I have ordered from all of them and found them all to be fine establishments.

Its up to you to find the best price from any of those sites which carry the
book (don't forget to factor in shipping and handling!)

-Doug





From: Keropi <keropi@VT.EDU>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:11:53 -0500
Subject: origami author identity crisis?

Hi all,
    I was searching for some origami books at Amazon.com when I came across
some origami titles attributed to a Ned Williams.

These are:
Origami: The Art of Paperfolding
New Adventures in Origami: The Art of Paperfolding
Origami: A step-by-step guide
Secrets of Origami: The Japanese Art of Paperfolding

Now, I'm sure that these books are by Robert Harbin, so who is Ned Williams?
Does he hold the copyrights to Harbin's work?  Just wondering...

Keropi
keropi@vt.edu





From: Keropi <keropi@VT.EDU>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:40:54 -0500
Subject: money folding books review needed

Does anyone own or may be able to provide a personal review of the follow
books?  I'm considering whether to buy them or not, the first is a little
over my price range but I'll consider getting it if I hear good reviews on
it.  Thanks.

Folding Money Fooling by Robert Neale

Introduction to Money Folding by Paul Krueger

Keropi
keropi@vt.edu





From: Keropi <keropi@VT.EDU>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:07:20 -0500
Subject: getting Neale book (was: money folding book review)

You can find the book at Fascinating Folds, and I think Origami USA - The
Paper.  Also, websites that sell magic books will have it.

Keropi
keropi@vt.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: money folding books review needed

>> Folding Money Fooling by Robert Neale
>>
>>
>Where are you getting the Robert Neale booK?  I'm folding his dragon and
>would love to hve more of his origami.   aloha, Jan
>--
><http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
>Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





From: Maureen Evans <kanga@ESCAPE.CA>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:58:25 -0500
Subject: Re: sailor hat directions?

Paul & Jan Fodor wrote:

> 4Jokers wrote:
> >
> > Hello-
> > My son is in a school play and needs a sailor's hat made from paper. He
> > thought about doing it using oragami methods, but I cannot find any
> > directions here in my area. Do you have any directions for making a sailor's
> > hat using oragami?
> > I hope you can help- I would be so very  greateful!
> > Thank You,
> > Joan
> > 4Jokers@msn.com
>
> Can someone respond to this call for help.  Thanks, Jan
> --
> <http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
> Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder

Jan,

Try this site.  Hope its what your looking for.

http://www.cs.ruu.nl/~hansb/d.origami/traditional/hat.html

Maureen Evans
kanga@escape.ca





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:27:52 -0600
Subject: Re: money folding books review needed

Hi Keropi:

Introduction to Money Folding by Paul Krueger

Is an excellent book! It has 18 models. The diagrams are
easy to follow. There is even a photograph of the finished
model (not just a line drawing). Some of my favorites are a
dolphin, pig, mouse, dog and owl (just to name a few) I
highly recommend it! :)

Kathy <*))))><





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:18:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Origami Flower by Dover

>To all those interested in origami flowers and flower arrangement:  For
>much of the year I have been working on a revision of my Origami Flower
>Arrangement book.  Dover had agreed to publish it earlier in the year, and
>has finally come out with an announcment in its New Book Catalog, January,
>1999. It is titled Origami Flowers, 80 pages in length, and retailing for
>$6.95.  The title is appropriate since its strength is in the many kinds of
>flower folding diagramed.  It also  includes the bird base rose and tulips,
>as well as the wheat stalk.
>         I was working on a stem holder to replace the boxy vase folded
>from poster board I had developed, but I did not complete the revision in
>time to get it included in the book.  Its advantage is that it is folded
>from the simple double boat folded from a five inch square foil paper.
>Consequently  the stem holder,  stems and simpler flowers and leaves can be
>folded from five inch foil paper.  This makes it possible to introduce the
>subject even to beginners, and would have greatly simplified the process of
>buying paper to start learning or teaching the subject.  In addition, the
>base  sIem attached  to the stem holder can be easily shortened to make
>vases which are tall, middle size or short.  One outcome of this has been
>the placing of two or more arrangements, usually of different heights, to
>maker a fuller display.  I  hope to put this new material on my web page,
>where hopefully it will be accessible to those interested in origami
>flowers and flower arrangement.  I'll let you know when it is ready.
>         As I did with Modern Origami, I will be offering the book
>autographed and sent by priority mail for $10  for those in US and Canada,
>when copies of the book become available.
>        In the same catalog there are also listings of  Teach Yourself
>Origami ($9.95) and Easy Origami ($3.50), both by John Montroll.
>        James M. Sakoda, Web Page:  http://idt.net/~kittyv
>        Home Address:  411 County Road, Barrington, RI 02806

To All Interested in flower arrangement.  I received some copies of Origami
Flowers amd find it nicely done.  I have decided not to put the new chapter
on the new stem holder to replace the boxy vase on the web page but have
decided to self-publish it as a separate booklet.  It is printed on my
postscript laser printer and will look as nice as the printed book, except
for the cover which will be a simple pair of light cardboard.  I am selling
it for $3 each and will bundle it with the book, bringing the combined
price up to $13.  I can easily get two copies of both in the same priority
male package and will offer that for $10 more. saving the cost of a second
mailer.  Those who have already sent me $10 (Martin Carbone, Amy Liikala,
and Peg Barber) should send the additional $3 for the stem holder booklet.
If a second set is desired please let me know by email right away.
     I plan to supply booksellers who plan to carry Dover's Origami Flowers
with multiple copies of The New Stem Holder for $1.50 each plus postage.
      For foreign countries  I will need more time to determine how much
priority mail will cost.  I can accept postal money order and am willing to
accept cash in dollars.
     For folding material the simplest solution at the moment is to order
the 10 inch matte (dull) American foil package of 50 sheets of assorted
colors.  In the meantime one can practice with available origami paper.
Sincerely, James M. Sakoda





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:48:50 -0600
Subject: Re: Paper for Kawasaki New Rose

Hi Rob!

Thanks for your paper suggestions for the rose. I am going to try some
(or all) of them. The cloud washi does look like it would make a
beautiful flower. I haven't seen the paper live, only on the Fascinating
Folds web page. I'll let you know how it is if I buy it.

Best wishes.

-Jane





From: =?iso-8859-1?B?VEhPUktJTEQgU9hOREVSR8VSRA==?= <thokiyenn@GET2NET.DK>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:46:48 +0100
Subject: Sv:      origami author identity crisis?

>Now, I'm sure that these books are by Robert Harbin, so who is Ned Williams?

As far as I know
Ned Williams is the original name of Robert Harbin

Thok 99





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:09:46 -0500 (
Subject: Origami Author Identity Crisis

Keropi asks about several books attributed in the Amazon list to a Ned
Williams and asks who Ned Williams is. Keropi felt sure that all of the books
were by Robert Harbin.

Thoki Yenn correctly replied to point out that Ned Williams was the original
name of Robert Harbin.

Robert Harbin was born in South Africa in Balfour, South Africa in 1909. and
was given the names, Edward Richard Charles Williams, which remained his real
names until he died.

Always keen on magic, Ned, as he was known, came to England in 1929 to seek to
make his fortune on the stage. In 1931 he was fortunate enough (and good
enough) to be invited to join the Masklynes at their famous theatre of magic
in London. There was already another conjuror called Williams at the theatre
and Ned Williams was very much the junior. He was firmly told that he that he
would have to  perform under a stage name.

His choice of Robert Harbin as a name was brilliant. It had obvious echoes of
Robert Houdin, the very famous French illusionist of the 19th centry, from
whom Houdini also took his professional name. Yet the name "Harbin" was a
family name on Ned's mother's side.

So for all stage purposes, Ned Williams became Robert Harbin and he retained
it after the immediate need for the change was long passed. As his
acquaintances in the conjuring profession and on the stage grew, he came to be
known as Robert Harbin more than by his real name. He was popularly known as
"Bob" and that is how his friends in the British Origami Society knew him.

In his own family and among very close acquaintances, he continued to be known
as Ned and it is interesting that  he was Ned to Lillian Oppenheimer. It is an
indication of how close friends they became.

With one exception, Robert Harbin's books, both those about conjuring and
those about origami were written under the name of Robert Harbin and it is
this  name that appears on the covers and within each of them. The puzzle is
how Amazon came to list them as books by Ned Williams, unless they are also
listed  under Robert Harbin and the listing under Ned Williams is merely a
cross-reference.

The one exception to the books written under the name, Robert Harbin is also
something of a puzzle. Robert Harbin wrote "Paper Magic" under that name in
1956. It later had the extaordinary honour conferred on it of being translated
into Japanese and published in Japan. (How many western books on paperfolding
have been paid that tribute?) The transliteration of the Japanese name is
"Origami Dokuhon", the same as two of Akira Yoshizawa's books (although
Yoshizawa prefers the Romanji spelling: "tokuhon".) Either way, the name means
"Paperfolding Reader". The format of the Japanese book is about half the size
of the English original and there is a little rearrangement, but, apart from
the omission of the bibliography, it appears to be a complete translation.

The curious thing about this Japanese version of "Paper Magic is that the name
of the author is given as Ned Williams. I have often wondered why. It is
possible, of course, that Harbin thought that the Japanese might pour scorn on
a Westener's incursion into their own field and that he didn't want any such
criticism to be associated with his professional name. But we shall never know
the real reason.

If anyone wants to know more about Robert Harbin they can find it in the new
Introduction which I wrote for the new edition of Robert Harbin's "Secrets of
Origami" which was republished by Dover Books in 1997.

There are also several of my previous postings to Origami-L which refer to
Robert Harbin on the British Origami Society Web Site at:
http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/

Several relevant postings may not be immediately apparent becuse they do not
have Robert Harbin's name in the heading, but have a look round and find out
what a significant part Ned Williams, alias Robert Harbin, played in the birth
of modern Western Origami.

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





From: good man <jess2800@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:48:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Paper folders in China

Aside from The art of Chinese Paperfolding (for young and old) by Maying
Soong, the works of Frances Ow and Phillip Shen I can only think of one
other what I believe to be Chinese folder
S.Kong Eng Chuan who wrote "Singaporigami" (Published by Educational
Publications Bureau). It contains 44 folds .
                                  Jess





From: Marcia Mau <maumoy@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 06:53:09 -0800 (
Subject: PRC Origami

I purchased several simple origami books in Guilin and Taishan in the
People's Republic of China last Nov.  Several of the books were
available in dept stores or bookstores in both areas.  Once I find them
again, I'll ask Sy Chen's help in translating the titles and names of
the authors.

I also purchased a booklet at the Philadelphia Science Museum during the
Chinese exhibit a few years ago.  Its title is something like "The
Beguiling Art of Paper Folding."  Cost was about $1US.

I found some origami paper in a shop in a shopping mall in Beijing, near
the Palace Hotel.  I gave the manager and several clerks some of Neale's
Flexagons which he taught in Charlotte.  They liked them so much they
let me have a Hello Kitty keychain, gratis.

The 2 jiao (20 Chinese cents worth 2.5 US cents) notes make excellent
jumping frogs.  The notes were more readily available in Beijing.  Two
jiao coins are used in other areas.  The small denominations are handy
for tipping the WC attendants.  On my last day in Taishan I went to 6
banks trying to get enough of the mint 2 jiao notes.  Most of the teller
panicked when I said I wanted 100.  They are in short supply so I was
only able to get a maximum of 10 at the banks that had them.

I think I mentioned earlier that I was unable to get any information on
the Shanghai Star when I revisited the Shanghai Arts and Crafts center.
Florence Temko diagrammed and identified a similar model as a
Traditional Chinese Model in a newsletter of Origami USA.

Don't forget the classic book by Maying Soong "The Chinese Art of
Paperfolding."

A happy Year of the Rabbit to all - new year's is Feb 16th.  I will be
in Honolulu for my Dad's service on Feb 21st.  With 3 mail deliveries
until we leave, I've rec'd 732 cranes and flapping birds.

Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA

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From: Thies de Waard <twaard@C.ECUA.NET.EC>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:43:39 -0500
Subject: How to temp. stop this list?

Hi,

I'm sorry, I know Ican find this info in the archives, but I am very
busy arranging things for a six week trip abroad, so could
somebody please tell me how I can set this list to no mail. I tried it
yesterday with the words "no mail" but that didn't work.

Thanks a lot, Thies
----------------------------------
Thies de Waard
Apartado Postal 01-01-862
Cuenca, ECUADOR
+593-7-822052 (thuis/home/casa)
+593-7-840254 (werk/office/oficina)
Ik heb nu slechts n email-adres/
I now have only one email address/
Ahora solo tengo una direccin de correo electrnico:
twaard@c.ecua.net.ec





From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:25:16 -0500 (
Subject: Chinese Paperfolding

A few years ago I bought a book with paperfolding instructions that was
definitely published in mainland China. It is more in the form of a booklet.

In China papercutting was supported by the government as it could be sold
commercially, which was more difficult with paperfolding. Papercuts were
frequently used as illustrations in publications.





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:49:04 -0600
Subject: Favorite Origami Moment

My Favorite Origami Moment:

It's early morning and peaceful, most of the world still
asleep. Sitting at the table by the east window so when the
sun comes up it's warm on my face. A glass of raspberry
flavored ice tea. I'm folding a Kawasaki Rose (of course)
making that twist fold. At this moment everything is
perfect!

Tell me your Favorite Origami moment.

Kathy  <*))))><





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:10:11 +0000
Subject: Re: origami author identity crisis?

Keropi <keropi@VT.EDU> sez

>Now, I'm sure that these books are by Robert Harbin, so who is Ned Williams?

One and the same man, although I've never seen his real name used on his
books before! Might be collectors items ;)

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/   - back online!





From: Andy Carpenter <Andy.Carpenter@MCI.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:36:34 -0700
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

I still recall the time when I successfully folded my first origami model -
Hulme's Jack in the Box. For whatever reason I chose to tackle the most
complex model of the book my wife had bought me for Christmas (Complete
Origami - Eric Kenneway).

Over a period of 3-4 weeks I probably tried at least 50 times to fold it.
Each time I got a little further and would then mess up. I was determined
not to let a silly piece of paper get the better of me so I persevered and
finally succeeded. It was early (3am) one morning on my 3rd attempt over a
period of 5+ hours I finally folded the model to completion (with 1 small
tear where the paper just couldn't take my mangling anymore). Boy was I
happy.

Andy.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Origami Mailing List [mailto:Origami@MIT.Edu] On Behalf Of Katherine
J. Meyer
Sent:   Wednesday, February 10, 1999 12:49 PM
To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        Favorite Origami Moment

My Favorite Origami Moment:

It's early morning and peaceful, most of the world still
asleep. Sitting at the table by the east window so when the
sun comes up it's warm on my face. A glass of raspberry
flavored ice tea. I'm folding a Kawasaki Rose (of course)
making that twist fold. At this moment everything is
perfect!

Tell me your Favorite Origami moment.

Kathy  <*))))><





From: Wayne Fluharty <wflu@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:52:20 -0800 (
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

>Tell me your Favorite Origami moment.

The smile of a child... the flattened, palm-up hand cradling the paper
as if it was made of silk... the silently whispered "Wow! Howdya do
that?"...

Wayne "Flu" Fluharty
wflu@hotmail.com

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From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:07:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

My favorite origami "moment":

Having spent 3 days precreasing a 2' by 2' square of glassine
into a (3.4.6.4) origami tessellation made from orimorphic
square twists, hexagon twists, and triangle twists, I
sit on the floor of my office and gently coax all the creases
into folding themselves flat.  The process takes almost an
hour, working around the perimeter of the square and then inside,
seeing the pattern slooooowly come into form, building into
a teasingly patient crescendo like Ravel's Bolero, utterly
euphoric till the end by the beauty of it all, the hours and
hours of work adding to the delight, literally dancing with
the paper, as Michael LaFosse would say.

Now THAT'S a moment!

---- Tom "who says math ain't sexy??" Hull
     thull@merrimack.edu
     http://web.merrimack.edu/~thull





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:44:21 -0800
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

I've already told Kathy Meyer about this moment.  Aside from opening her box
of a hundred cranes and a Kawaksaki Rose, it's gotta be the morning I put
together the FIREWORKS model. I was so happy and proud of myself that I
really danced around the room showing it off to my husband.

Good topic Kathy!

Regards,
Ria     ^   ^





From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:53:59 -0800 (
Subject: Coupla questions

    Okay, I've finally seen the wonders of wet folding.  I used the
paper used as a filler for a mail-order package to wet fold a Brill
lion.  (About four inches high, and it has now taken up what will
probably be  permanent residence on my piano.)  I looked for that type
of paper in a Reliable (company name, not an opinion :-) catalogue and
saw a roll of 24" brown wrapping paper at $36.55 a roll.  Are there any
cheaper wrapping papers out there?

    And now for number two...  I have Illustrator 5.5 for the Mac.  I
don't really know how to use it..  I tried to diagram one of my models
and got stuck after the first step, which happened to show a piece of
paper white side up.  (Yes, I would know how to color it in.)  Any tips
on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

Dolphin

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From: Maureen Evans <kanga@ESCAPE.CA>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:01:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

>Tell me your Favorite Origami moment.

My favorite origami moment has to be whenever I have finished a model.  To have
a simple flat piece of paper actually end up looking like an animal or a flower
or whatever it was I was supposed to be making never ceases to amaze and amuse
me.

Maureen Evans





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:25:28 +0000
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

Katherine J. Meyer <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM> sez

>Tell me your Favorite Origami moment.

Go on then - last year, I went to the 10th convention of Origami
Deutschland in Freising. I sat at first floor balcony, overlooking a
beautiful shady back garden, bright sunshine, good German cheese & wine
on hand, folding paper with Thoki Yenn and Kuni Kasahara. Paradise!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/   - back online!





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:22:33 -0800
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

My Favorite Origami Moment:
Standing knee-deep in snow, the wind shaking even more snow from the
trees all around me, while I try to keep my fingers from freezing long
enough to take some pictures of my origami models before they disappear
under the snow.

Matthias





From: Keropi <keropi@VT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:25:36 -0500
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

>>Tell me your Favorite Origami moment.
>

Giving a Dollar Bill Heart & Quarter charm (a.k.a. "A Change of Heart") to a
Japanese waitress at a small family-operated Japanese restaurant.  The
waitress was so elated, she ran off to the kitchen and showed everyone
inside the dollar bill heart.  Can't wait to get my hands on some more
dollar bill folds to leave around as tips.  I think this is one of the best
ways to get more people to notice and become aware of origami... through
nicely folded tips =)

Keropi..."more money folds please..."
keropi@vt.edu





From: Keropi <keropi@VT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:45:58 -0500
Subject: Robert Harbin = Ned Williams

Thanks to all who've responded.  Glad to learn a bit more on the great
magician, thanks David Lister.  I guess Ned Williams was a cross reference
in Amazon's website.  I was initially confused because when I looked up the
author (Ned Williams) under the search section, it came back with 20 +
books, some on Carbohydrate Chemistry, some on Pharmacology for
Anaesthetists, farm business statistics, etc... and then the few origami
books mentioned earlier.  My guess is that there are alot more Ned Williams
in the world and a lot of authors by the same name.  I shouldn't have jumped
to conclusions so soon...thinking that the same person who wrote the books
on carbohydrate chemistry etc...is the same one claiming rights to the
origami books.

Keropi..."a much more informed folder now..."
keropi@vt.edu





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:00:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Coupla questions

At 05:53 PM 2/10/99 -0800, Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

>    And now for number two...  I have Illustrator 5.5 for the Mac.  I
>don't really know how to use it..  I tried to diagram one of my models
>and got stuck after the first step, which happened to show a piece of
>paper white side up.  (Yes, I would know how to color it in.)  Any tips
>on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

First, just accept the fact that these programs tend to have a high
learning curve. Also, you might never be able to draw faster than you did
freehand, but your efforts will certainly look much more professional. I
happen to use Freehand, but there are some common tricks. First, create a
template file with some common bases you might start with, folding symbols,
text templates, and anything else you might feel is useful. Try to give
meaningfull names to line styles and colours. You will probably hit upon
mant tricks as you struggle with different types of steps. A common trait
with some tricks is to use extraneous lines as guidelines for other lines
(pref. use another line style. Another good rule of thumb is to keep
foreground shapes as accurate as possible, while background layers can be
skewed for effect. If you tell us what your next step is, perhaps we could
better give you a hint on how to go about drawing it. Good luck! Marc





From: Daniela Carboni <s134259@STUDENTI.ING.UNIPI.IT>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:18:21 +0100
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

>My Favorite Origami Moment:
>
>It's early morning and peaceful, most of the world still
>asleep. Sitting at the table by the east window so when the
>sun comes up it's warm on my face. A glass of raspberry
>flavored ice tea. I'm folding a Kawasaki Rose (of course)
>making that twist fold. At this moment everything is
>perfect!
>
>Tell me your Favorite Origami moment.
>
>Kathy  <*))))><

My Favorite Origami Moment:

Late in the evening, I am relaxing after a day's work (or study).
My beloved is hacking on his Linux-Maschine. The radio is playing softly.
I lay down on my bed and fold something beautiful, chatting about Life,
Universe and Everything (or Dinner). The best moment is when the origami is
ready and it is promptly seized and triunfantly put, with the other 12,346,
on the top of the monitor.

Ciao,
     Daniela.

/\_/\   Daniela S. Carboni
 o o    email: s134259@studenti.ing.unipi.it
= # =   http://www.fortunecity.com/rushdie/93/





From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:20:04 +0900
Subject: Re: Who made this origami sighting?(X-files)

Carmine Di Chiara said,

> I was wondering if anyone knew the person who made the origami of one
> of the X-Files shows. I believe the origami was a menagerie, or a
> Noah's Ark theme. It must have been a couple of years back, but I
> won't be able to describe the episode better.

This episode of the X-files was also broadcasted in Japan.
Maekawa-san says they are KAWAI Toyoaki's models.

 _ _ _ _ _
|         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
|_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
|         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
|_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
 If they keep on risking failure, they're still artists. (S.Jobs)





From: Xuxa Rojas <RojasXu@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:31:55 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

And boy, let me tell you... JJ was ALL HANDS!!

Xuxa





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:37:10 -0800
Subject: Re: Stems for K. Rose

At 12:07 PM 2/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Has anyone come up with a convincing stem for the Kawasaki Rose?
>
>!!! This does not have to be origami (sorry to be sacrilegious) as the
>roses are for display purposes !!!
>
>I have used Joseph Wu's base before (which looks great if you place the
>base and the rose inside Dave Brill's box with lid). I have also used the
>stem diagrammed by A. Anselmo which also works well.
>
>Has anyone had any success in attaching the roses to wire, or twigs or
>anything that would make a convincing display??
>
>Thanks - Gareth
>
>
Gareth:

Kathy Meyer sent me a beautiful Kawasaki Rose on a wire stem with origami
sepal and leaves that were taped on with florist tame and it was quite
effective.  Directions can be found in one of Kemnneway's books and I think
it's on the page for Yamaguchi's Lilly Rose.  I'll look up the diagram and
get back to you, but I think the book was called Fun with Origami by Eric
Kenneway, not his Complete Origami.

Ria Sutter





From: Jean-Jerome CASALONGA <jj-casalonga@MAGIC.FR>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:42:25 +0100
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

>Katherine J. Meyer <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM> sez
>
>>Tell me your Favorite Origami moment.

My first night of wild love with Xuxa Rojas !  Whoah ! that was my favorite
moment (even if it didn't include much Origami !)

        JJ Caaaaaaaaaaaaasalongaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa





From: Carol Martinson <carolm47@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:51:05 -0800
Subject: Origami Minnesota Meeting

     If at all possible, anyone in the Twin Cities area should plan on
coming to this Sunday's meeting of Origami Minnesota.  The featured
model to be taught is the Kawasaki Rose.  For anyone not wanting to
try the Kawasaki Rose, there will also be instruction for beginners.

     The meeting will be at the Lexington Branch Library, 1080
University Ave., in St. Paul, from 2 - 4 pm.  Take I-94 to the
Lexington exit, go north on Lexington to University Ave., turn right,
and the library is a couple of doors from the corner on your right.
There is free parking in a lot next to the library.

     Carol Martinson

_________________________________________________________
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From: Alex Barber <barber@THE-VILLAGE.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:13:28 -0600
Subject: Re: Coupla questions

>    And now for number two...  I have Illustrator 5.5 for the Mac.  I
>don't really know how to use it..  I tried to diagram one of my models
>and got stuck after the first step, which happened to show a piece of
>paper white side up.  (Yes, I would know how to color it in.)  Any tips
>on what to do would be greatly appreciated.

I would recommend the upgrade to the current Illustrator for anyone working
with it. 5.5 was (IMHO) an annoying interface. Only recently has the
program really been something to compete with Freehand. The current
shipping Illustrator is 8.0. Upgrade is about $120. New educational pricing
should be about $250.

Now, if you're still working in 5.5, drop me some email. In the meantime,
try opening the stroke+fill palette w/ Command+I. You can set colors for
objects there.

Alex Barber

barber@the-village.com | http://www.the-village.com





From: Gareth Morfill <gmorfill@REDBRICK.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:07:58 -0500
Subject: Stems for K. Rose

Has anyone come up with a convincing stem for the Kawasaki Rose?

!!! This does not have to be origami (sorry to be sacrilegious) as the
roses are for display purposes !!!

I have used Joseph Wu's base before (which looks great if you place the
base and the rose inside Dave Brill's box with lid). I have also used the
stem diagrammed by A. Anselmo which also works well.

Has anyone had any success in attaching the roses to wire, or twigs or
anything that would make a convincing display??

Thanks - Gareth





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:14:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Who made this origami sighting?(X-files)

Hatori Koshiro wrote:
> > I was wondering if anyone knew the person who made the origami of one
> > of the X-Files shows. I believe the origami was a menagerie, or a
> > Noah's Ark theme. It must have been a couple of years back, but I
> > won't be able to describe the episode better.
>
> This episode of the X-files was also broadcasted in Japan.
> Maekawa-san says they are KAWAI Toyoaki's models.

Does that mean that they are KAWAI Toyoaki's designs, folded by person or
persons unknown, or that KAWAI Toyoaki personally folded those models and that
they are also his designs?

Thanks for the info!

-D'gou





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:34:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Paper folders in China

At 01:35 PM 2/9/99 -0500, Sy Chen wrote:

>Francis Ow lives in Singapore.
>...

Uh, yess! I cannot believe I "moved" him to HK. How could I mismatch
Singapore with HK? Oh well, I'm getting old.... :)

Sorry for the misinformation.

Peter Budai





From: Sy Chen <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:01:33 -0500
Subject: (NORM)     Re: Paper folders in China

Don't mention OLD in front of older.

Sy Chen

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>

>Uh, yess! I cannot believe I "moved" him to HK. How could I mismatch
>Singapore with HK? Oh well, I'm getting old.... :)
>
>Sorry for the misinformation.
>
>Peter Budai





From: Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:34:56 +0000
Subject: Favorite Origami Moment

The first origami convention I went to was the first time I had met anyone else
     interested in the subject and there I was with a hundred or so fellow
     folders. Someone showed me a book with a complex devil on the cover (yes
     that one) and I had to fold it.
 e let me borrow the book for the two hours he was spending at a teaching
     session. He said I'd never fold it in time, but I did!





From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:50:30 +0900
Subject: Re: oirmation animating origami (move_by_itself origami)

"The Magic Tipper" or "Magic Triangle" is TAKEGAWA Seiryo's model.
It is called "Muku-muku" in Japan.
Muku-muku is just an imitative word.
The diagrams are appears on ORU issue 13 (1996 Summer) p.140.

 _ _ _ _ _
|         |  Hatori Koshiro (Koshiro is my first name.)
|_._._._._|          hatori@jade.dti.ne.jp
|         |      http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/
|_ _ _ _ _|_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
 If they keep on risking failure, they're still artists. (S.Jobs)





From: "Caroline S. Sy" <jelly@SKYINET.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:10:41 +0000
Subject: Modular Origami

I'm interested in the modular origami like that of the swan and pineapple. Are
     there any
books that deals with that kind of origami?

Carol

  @}-+-+-- "A friend is like a rare book --+-+-{@
              of which one copy is made."
  @}-+-+--       jelly@skyinet.net       --+-+-{@





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 02:29:04 +0100
Subject: Re: Origami Flower by Dover, Foreign

>To All Interested in flower arrangement.  I received some copies of Origami
>Flowers amd find it nicely done.  I have decided not to put the new chapter
>on the new stem holder to replace the boxy vase on the web page but have
>decided to self-publish it as a separate booklet.  It is printed on my
>postscript laser printer and will look as nice as the printed book, except
>for the cover which will be a simple pair of light cardboard.  I am selling
>it for $3 each and will bundle it with the book, bringing the combined
>price up to $13.  I can easily get two copies of both in the same priority
>male package and will offer that for $10 more. saving the cost of a second
>mailer.  Those who have already sent me $10 (Martin Carbone, Amy Liikala,
>and Peg Barber) should send the additional $3 for the stem holder booklet.
>If a second set is desired please let me know by email right away.
>     I plan to supply booksellers who plan to carry Dover's Origami Flowers
>with multiple copies of The New Stem Holder for $1.50 each plus postage.
>      For foreign countries  I will need more time to determine how much
>priority mail will cost.  I can accept postal money order and am willing to
>accept cash in dollars.
>     For folding material the simplest solution at the moment is to order
>the 10 inch matte (dull) American foil package of 50 sheets of assorted
>colors.  In the meantime one can practice with available origami paper.
>Sincerely, James M. Sakoda

To those not in the US, including Jorma Oksanen in Finland and Maureen
Evans  in Canada.  I have inquired at the postoffice and have found out
that global priority mail in a two-pound package which I use varies from
area to area.  In Canada and  most of Europe, including Great Britain and
Finland, the cost is $7 (actually $6.95).  For Japan it is $9 ($8.95).  For
Russia and South America there is no global priority mail.  If you contact
me I will check the airmail or surface rates.  I can get two copies of both
the Origami Flowers by Dover and the self-published New Stem Holder into
the envelop that I get at the post office so that the cost of mailing is
the same for one set is  $7 + $3 + $7 = $17, while for two sets it is only
$10 more or $27.  By doing this you can halve the cost of mailing.  I'm
sure some friend will be more than happy to take the extra copy off your
hands.
     I normally accept checks on an American bank.  From abroad you can
send a postal money order, if your country has this arrangement with the US
postoffice.  I will also accept dollar bills, which should be packaged
discretely.  I prefer that you not send more than $25 at one time.
     For booksellers, including origami associations supplying books and
paper, I can supply 12 copies of the addendum to  Dover's Origami Flowers
at 50% discount or $18 plus postage for global prioriy mail discussed
above--usually $7.  For Canada and Europe will come out to an even $25.
In the US the postage will be $3 for a total of $21.  For Japan the total
cost will be $27.  The Origami Flower book should be purchesed directly
from Dover Publications at dealer's discount.





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:18:56 -1000
Subject: Re: Modular Origami

Caroline S. Sy wrote:
>
> I'm interested in the modular origami like that of the swan and pineapple.
     Are there any
> books that deals with that kind of origami?
>
> Carol
>
>   @}-+-+-- "A friend is like a rare book --+-+-{@
>               of which one copy is made."
>   @}-+-+--       jelly@skyinet.net       --+-+-{@

Is there a picture somewhere of the swan and pineapple that you
mentioned above?   Jan
--
<http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:27:50 -1000
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

My favorite moments keep happening and I do hope they  continue.  I've
been doing mainland craftfairs and will be doing more.  Different
origami people I've only seen email from come up to my booth and
introduce themselves.  The face/name/origami connection brings such warm
feelings.  Icing on the cake is exchanging an origami with them and to
have them just as eagerly pick out one of my foldings gives me "chicken
skin" as we say in Hawaii.  Aloha, Jan





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:02:18 +0100
Subject: Re: getting Neale book (was: money folding book review)

Keropi
At 20.07 9/2/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>You can find the book at Fascinating Folds, and I think Origami USA - The
>Paper.  Also, websites that sell magic books will have it.

>>> Folding Money Fooling by Robert Neale
>>>
>>>
>>Where are you getting the Robert Neale booK?  I'm folding his dragon and
>>would love to hve more of his origami.   aloha, Jan

Much easier.... order it from the publisher, Richard Kaufman ! Here is his
address:

Richard Kaufman <moobooks@ix.netcom.com>

You may order by fax, and pay by credit card etc. I can recommend this
excellent book !

Roberto





From: Tim Rueger <trueger@CRYSTAL.CIRRUS.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:11:25 -0600
Subject: Re: Stems for K. Rose

>>>>> "gm" == Gareth Morfill <gmorfill@REDBRICK.COM> writes:

    gm> Has anyone come up with a convincing stem for the Kawasaki Rose?

If you have Origami for the Connoisseur (and if you're folding the
Kawasaki Rose, you likely do), check out the "Camellia, Bloom and
Branch" model.

It's folded from a 2x1 rectangle, with roughly the top half devoted to
the flower bloom, and half to the stem.  I've folded just the stem from
a square to nice effect.  See:

    http://www.io.com/~rueger/origami/models/rose.html

for a photo.

-Tim
--
Tim Rueger             Crystal Semiconductor
Phone: (512) 912-3420  4210 S. Industrial Dr., Austin, TX 78744
Fax:   (512) 912-3230  Email: trueger@crystal.cirrus.com





From: "K.A. Lundberg" <klundber@MNSINC.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:52:24 +0500
Subject: Re: Stems for K. Rose

Gareth asks:
   >Has anyone had any success in attaching the roses to wire, or twigs
   >or anything that would make a convincing display??

Yep, I always use wire for flower stems.  The problem with the rose is
where and how to attach the wire.  I weave the bottom of the rose
together to close the base.  First I thread either a button...use
to have lots of spare buttons floating around, I fear they are all in
roses now...or a small cardboard disc on to the end of the wire bending
to wire over so it makes a platform to slip into the flower. Then I
thread a frog base septal onto the wire.  With a bit of glue on the
bottom of the disc and a bit on top of the septal I poke the disc
into the rose and sandwich the base of the rose between the disc and
the septal.  When it dries wrap the wire with floral tape adding
leaves if you like.

Whenever I give a rose to someone the first thing they do is smell it so I
guess it looks realistic. <bg>  Actually my roses do smell now...I store
my rose paper and completed roses in a box with rose potpourri.

Kalei -- klundber@mnsinc.com





From: "John E. Clark" <jeclark@CAMALOTT.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:11:07 -0600
Subject: Origami Ceremonies

I have read in a few of the books I found on origami, that some of the older
     folds were performed with a ceremonies.  In the town I live in, oragami is
     not on the high priority list of books.  I have found some things on the
     web, but now that really go in
 o the history of it.  Anyone can learn to fold, but I would like to know why
     these folders were made in the first place.  Does anyone know of a good
     resource of information?  I fund ae limited so ordering books might take a
     while for me to get.  I am onl

Thanks

John





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:48:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Stems for K. Rose

>Gareth asks:
>   >Has anyone had any success in attaching the roses to wire, or twigs
>   >or anything that would make a convincing display??
>
>Yep, I always use wire for flower stems.  The problem with the rose is
>where and how to attach the wire.  I weave the bottom of the rose
>together to close the base.  First I thread either a button...use
>to have lots of spare buttons floating around, I fear they are all in
>roses now...or a small cardboard disc on to the end of the wire bending
>to wire over so it makes a platform to slip into the flower. Then I
>thread a frog base septal onto the wire.  With a bit of glue on the
>bottom of the disc and a bit on top of the septal I poke the disc
>into the rose and sandwich the base of the rose between the disc and
>the septal.  When it dries wrap the wire with floral tape adding
>leaves if you like.
>
>Whenever I give a rose to someone the first thing they do is smell it so I
>guess it looks realistic. <bg>  Actually my roses do smell now...I store
>my rose paper and completed roses in a box with rose potpourri.
>
>
>Kalei -- klundber@mnsinc.com

Does anyone know if here is a convenient hole on the bottom of the Kawasaki
rose into which a folded stem can be placed? The addemda to the Origami
Flowers by Dover  feaatures an easy to fold stem holder, into which one can
place one more stems to hold flowers and leaves.  If absolutely necessary
one might punch a hole through the bottom to make a hole.to insert a stem.
This would be preferable to most folders than using wire, which is used
with artificial flowers.  The stem holder can hold three or four branches
and a whole flower arrangement of roses can be artistically displayed as a
Japanese flower arrangement.  I use my own bird base rose, which can be
found in Origami Flowers recently published by Dover Publication.  One can
see if five or seven nicely arranged roses can compete with the more
complex and famous  Kawasaki rose.
James M. Sakoda





From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:23:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

My favorite origami moment was when I was finally able to collapse David
Brill's spring into action model.  I had a pre-creased piece of paper in
the book with that model for nearly a year and couldn't seem to pull it
together.  Rather than rend it or shred it as I was frequently tempted, I
put the folded page back in the book and would take it out every month or
two to try it again...

One evening, I had tried again - unsuccessfully as it happened.  I put the
paper away and eventually went to bed.  I had a dream that night that I
completed the model!  Unfortunately, when I woke up the next morning all I
could remember was that I had had a dream about folding the model :-(

Well, I tried again that evening and after much fiddling and fussing, I
was able to finally collapse the paper into the spring.  It was an
absolutely magic momemt for me!

Peg Barber
mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:54:10 -0800
Subject: Re: Origami Ceremonies

"John E. Clark" wrote: I have read in a few of the books I found on
origami...snip

Find your way to the Origami list archives and search for "David Lister"
-- be careful to search in limited time frames. Greatt information on
Origami history.

--
Martin R. Carbone





From: Pat Bush <patbush@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:04:45 -0800 (
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

And all this time, we thought that you trying to convert Xuxa to the
purist form of origami--no scissors.  Now to find out that you were not
trying out new ways of positioning the paper, but new methods of
propositioning Xuxa.  I am shocked!! :-) Pat

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>From:         Jean-Jerome CASALONGA <jj-casalonga@MAGIC.FR>
>Subject:      Re: Favorite Origami Moment
>To:           ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>
>>Katherine J. Meyer <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM> sez
>>
>>>Tell me your Favorite Origami moment.
>
>
>My first night of wild love with Xuxa Rojas !  Whoah ! that was my
favorite
>moment (even if it didn't include much Origami !)
>
>        JJ Caaaaaaaaaaaaasalongaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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From: Pancho <jperezanda@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:07:44 -0800
Subject: [NO]  Re: Favorite Origami Moment

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>From: Jean-Jerome CASALONGA <jj-casalonga@MAGIC.FR>
>
>My first night of wild love with Xuxa Rojas !  Whoah ! that was my favorite
>moment (even if it didn't include much Origami !)
>
>        JJ Caaaaaaaaaaaaasalongaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>
>
>Received: from RojasXu@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id
TUEOa03472 for
>          <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>; ** Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:31:55 -0500
(EST) **
>At 09:31 AM 11-02-99 EST, you wrote:
>>And boy, let me tell you... JJ was ALL HANDS!!
>>
>>Xuxa
>>

Wow Xuxa, you are faster than light !! How could you answer JJ's mail
before even receiving it ??





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:11:04 +0000
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

Jean-Jerome CASALONGA <jj-casalonga@MAGIC.FR> sez

>My first night of wild love with Xuxa Rojas !  Whoah ! that was my favorite
>moment

What did you do when the 30 seconds finally ended?

all the best,

Nick "all nite" Robinson





From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:27:10 -0800 (
Subject: Re: Favorite Origami Moment

I guess mine was when the proportions of the first of my own models that
I was satisfied with fell into place...   A dolphin.  :-)  Still one of
my favorites.  Cool animals, too.

Dolphin

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