




From: Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@EIEE.UNIVALLE.EDU.CO>
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:56:11 -0500
Subject: Colombian Origami page Updated

Hello.
The Asociacion Vallecaucana de Origamistas' home page has new stuff!
There are reports and photos of the Colombian Conventions and new models.
Also the newspaper reports of the group, the activities for 1999 and more.
May be you can appear n some of the pictures!

Its URL is :
http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/origami.html

Take a look and please, tell me your comments.

Good luck,
Jose Tomas Buitrago





From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:22:36 +0200
Subject: Re: Web page update

On 05-Feb-99, Dolphin G. (dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM) wrote:
>>> When I try and click on this I get a window to save
>>>'index.html.exe' on my hard disk, and the browser window remains
>>>blank whether I click 'OK' or 'Cancel'.  Anyone else get this, or
>>>know how to fix it?

>>I got the same thing but I got to the site by cutting the address
>>and pasting it into netscape, then deleting the part ".en".  There
>>is a button for english but when I click it I get the same save box.
>>Any help would be appreciated cuz it looks like a great site, but I
>>can't read it :)

> The same thing happened to me, but I think I know what that problem
>is.  The owner of the site tried to upload the English version of the
>page to the same address but with the ".en" suffix.  I think it is
>"illegal" to have anything after the ".html" or ".htm".  Uploading a
>page to an address like this would cause your browser to do weird
>things...  In this case, try to save the file.  The best (and I think
>only) answer is to upload the page changing the address before the
>".html"

It's not illegal to name your pages whatever you like, but the server
has to know how to distinguish HTML files from non-viewable files.
Usually servers report MIME type TEXT/HTML (ie.  www-page) for files
with extension 'htm', 'html' or 'shtml'.

If your browser lets you ignore the MIME type server is sending
(Settings/Network Settings/Options/Ignore Server MIME type for those
oddballs using AWeb on Amiga :) then that will help.  You may need to
add extension 'en' to be recognized as HTML. (Not needed with AWeb,
Preferences/General/Ext. viewer with IBrowse, external 'MimePrefs'
program with Voyager - all these on Amiga.  I'm sorry I can't help
you people stuck with a mainstream systems :)

>Hope I'm not totally off, but That seemed to me to be the most
>logical reason nobody can access the page.  Sorry if I'm wrong.

The server reports MIME type application/octet-stream which tells
your browser it's something not viewable in browser window.

--
Jorma Oksanen   Team *AMIGA*      tenu@sci.fi

"Well," said Owl, "the customary procedure in such cases is as follows."
"What does Crustimoney Proseedcake mean?" said Pooh.  "For I am a Bear
of Very Little Brain, and long words Bother Me."
"It means the Thing to Do."





From: Charles Beittel <CBeit24275@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:47:18 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Colombian Origami page Updated

I can access the University's home page, but, when your site is included in
the URL my browser says it can't find it! And I can't figure a way to tour
through the home page to your site! Help, please.

Charles





From: Charles Beittel <CBeit24275@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:53:57 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Colombian Origami page Updated

Several hours later the given URL worked well!!

Charles





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:12:23 -0700
Subject: Re: Web page update

> > > http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/index.html.en
> > >

I experimented with this address a little.  It happens when I use
Netscape Communicator 4.02.  Making 'en' a html mime typy didn't help.
Netscape appears to be erroneously seeing it as an 'exe' extention.
However using Microsofts Internet Explorer worked fine though.

Being forced to use Bill Gates browser galls me no end....

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <102354.2222@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 18:31:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Sea-snail shell: help!

>A few days ago I received Origami for the Connoiseur, and have
>folded a numer of models of it since. I'm trying that spectacularly
>beautifull sea-snail shell by Toshikazu Kawasaki (Ecuador is on
>strike today, so I have a holiday!), but am heaving trouble in step
>20, where the frog-base has to be unfolded, and a number of circles
>has to be sunk and raised. Does anyone have any tips how to do
>that?. The mayor problem is that I have only two hands....<

        The key is persiverince.  No, that's pursiver...persuv...oh, the
heck with it.

;-D

 _,_
 ____/_\,) .. _
--____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
 /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 899-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2866
 102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: RiffRaff <riffraff@NETWALK.COM>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 02:14:33 -0500
Subject: Hello!

Hi there, I saw this list while surfing around, and thought it looked like
a valuable resource. :)  I work in technical support for an ISP, and I
discovered that folding Sonobe units was a great way to keep my hands
occupied while on the phones, so I've been building a ton of post-it note
based projects.  Just recently, I finished a post-it Sonobe depth 2 Menger
sponge, inspired by the business card project web page (forgotten your
name, sorry)... it turned out really well, with 3 colors, each color
circling one axis of the cube, so you get a discrete 2-color combination
from each of the three directions.  I guess that doesn't make much sense,
but hopefully I'll have a photo up soon.

Currently, I'm working on the dodecahedron (The one with five pyramids
making each face, I think it's the 90-unit one), but the 3-color tiling is
making me crazy... any hints?

Also, I think I may have discovered a new way to assemble Sonobe units, at
least for polyhedrons.  (Of course, it's quite possible everyone already
knows this method, I don't have any reference materials to look it up in :)
All I know is what I've found on the net, and managed to figure out for
myself)

Try this:

    *__________
   /|    /|\   /
  / |   / | \ /
 /\ |  /  |  /
/  \| /   | /
-----------*

The vertical lines are mountain folds, the three diagonals are valley folds.
The stars are where the tips of the pyramids form when you fit 3 together.

They fit together the same way as the regularly-folded ones, except
*backwards* - when you make the three-unit triangle, the tabs pinwheel the
opposite direction.  They also lock together a *lot* tighter, with
virtually no gaps or holes at the points.  (Of course, the last few pieces
are a major pain to get together.)

Have I stumbled into something new, or is this already widely-known? :)

cheers,
--Riff





From: Alasdair Post-Quinn <acpquinn@PANTHER.MIDDLEBURY.EDU>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 03:14:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Hello!

>--Riff

hm. long, long ago, a folder going by the name "riffraff" showed me the
base to a critter he had designed -- the "lonely man" ... sound familiar,
anyone? could this be the same Riff, or just another follower of the Rocky
Horror Picture Show?

peace,
alasdair





From: RiffRaff <riffraff@NETWALK.COM>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 05:03:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Hello!

>>--Riff
>
>hm. long, long ago, a folder going by the name "riffraff" showed me the
>base to a critter he had designed -- the "lonely man" ... sound familiar,
>anyone? could this be the same Riff, or just another follower of the Rocky
>Horror Picture Show?
>
>peace,
>alasdair

Just another Rocky fan, I'm afraid. :)

--Riff





From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:30:35 -0500 (
Subject: Origami Sighting

In case you really need help with folding a cootie catcher you can click
Create on AOL Kids Only. It shows how to use it for a Valentine, including a
template  for folding it. It's free from Blackberry Creek Multimedia.

Two weeks ago folding instructions included the crane.

All best from Florence.





From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:41:19 -0500
Subject: Re: 3-colorings, was "Hello!"

Greetings!  Riff asks

>>>
Currently, I'm working on the dodecahedron (The one with five pyramids
making each face, I think it's the 90-unit one), but the 3-color tiling is
making me crazy... any hints?
<<<

Yes, that's tricky.  I like to draw out the 3-coloring on paper
(non-folded :) first - but doing that requires a smidgen of graph
theory.  Structurally the 90-unit "dodecahedron" is actually
a soccer ball.  That is, if you think of points where the pyramids
meet as being "faces" of a polyhedron, then you have only faces
with five or six pyramids going around them, thus faces with
only 5 or 6 sides.  These are arranged just like the faces
of a soccer ball.  Now, the soccer ball has 90 edges, so each edge
of the soccer ball corresponds to a Sonobe unit in this model
you're trying to make.

Therefore if you DRAW a soccer ball on a flat piece of paper
(that is, draw the planar graph of it - as if you had smashed
it down into the paper carefully so that no edges crossed ...
try doing it with a cube first, then go for the soccer ball)
then you can take this drawing and work out the 3-coloring
beforehand.  You'd be coloring the edges of the soccer ball so
that no two edges that touch (at the vertices) have the same
color.  It's a puzzle to do, and one that I frequently give
to my undergrad students as an exercise.

If that makes no sense, try this:  go to my web page (see
below - the URL has CHANGED!) and look at my "pentagon-
hexagon Z-unit".  This behaves structurally just like the
Sonobe, but it looks completely different.  A 90-unit ball
made with my unit really looks like a soccer ball - the
pentagons and hexagons are actually holes that you can see,
instead of "junctures" that are hidden in a sense with the
Sonobe unit.  If you make a 90-unit, 3-colored version
using my unit, it'll help you see what you need to do for
the 90-unit Sonobe version - structurally they be the same,
but they look way diferent.

Also, yes, Riff, your variation of the Sonobe has been
stumbled upon by numerous people.  (Never published, tho,
to my knowledge.  Although Michael Naughton had/has a great
handout with lots of Sonobe variations that people have discovered.)

Good luck!

---- Tom "don't know much about graph theory" Hull
     Dept. of Math, Merrimack College
     thull@merrimack.edu

NOTE: new web page address!
     http://web.merrimack.edu/~thull





From: Mike Kanarek <kanarekorigami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 11:37:46 -0800 (
Subject: Origami of Kingston, NY meeting

The Origami Kingston Club meets on the second and fourth Saturday's of
the month at the Kingston Area Library.
The library is located at 55 Franklyn Street in Kingston NY.
Information may be gotten at 914-331-0988
Meeting start at 10:30 and last about a hour and a half and are in the
Childrens library.
See you there. Mike Kanarek

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com





From: Michael Conrad <conradm@PANTHER.ADELPHI.EDU>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:01:09 -0500
Subject: "Five-Sided Square"

Is anybody familair with Robert J. Lang's book Origami in Action?  More
specifically, has anyone been able to fold his Flapping Crane model
contianed in the book?  It uses John Montroll's "Five-Sided Suare."  I can
get up to step 23, but them I'm stuck because I can't figure out how to sink
a five-sided point.  So, if so could possible give me so pointers on how to
do this, it would begreatly appreicated.

Also, I have an origami sighting to report.  I was watching "Pink and the
Brain" a couple of weeks ago, and Brain tried to introduce Pinky to origami
as a hobby for him.  Now I know it's a cartoon, but there was one thing that
bothered me: it look like Brain had folded a paper crane out of a retangular
sheet of paper!

                                        Michael Conrad





From: =?iso-8859-1?B?VEhPUktJTEQgU9hOREVSR8VSRA==?= <thokiyenn@GET2NET.DK>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:27:45 +0100
Subject: Cloud 9 etc.

This is Kalmon,  a gain again

I think it is safe now to look at
www.thok.dk

it will not byte you.

Kalmon
the Great and Glorious





From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@KIMSCRANE.COM>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 14:39:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Web page update

I very much enjoyed your site.  The models were very well done and the paper
you used highlighted each model very nicely.  I liked your introduction
family picture.  It gave the site a very nice touch!  Keep up the good work!
Sincerely,
Kimberly Crane
http://www.kimscrane.com

Krystyna i Wojciech Burczyk wrote:

> I have just uploaded pages with new names. I hope all will work good now.
> Please start here:
> http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/index-en.html
>
> Wojtek





From: Krystyna i Wojciech Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:47:57 +0100
Subject: Re: Web page update

Thank's for your comments.
I can't answer earlier becouse I have been few days in travel outside home.

I have tested my pages off line with both Netscape and Internet Explorer and
     all work well.
After uploading pages to WWW Internet Explorer works well but
Netscape behaves strange.

I'm working to rebuild names of pages in site and tommorow I will upload new
     version at address
http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/index-en.html

Best regards
Wojtek





From: Krystyna i Wojciech Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 17:53:30 +0100
Subject: Re: Web page update

I have just uploaded pages with new names. I hope all will work good now.
Please start here:
http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/index-en.html

Wojtek





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 18:56:52 +0000
Subject: BOS diagram exchange page

Yo - there is now a page for you to request diagrams from the BOS web
site (click on FOLDING...). Did I tell you this? If so, sorry - I've
been busy of late putting together a book on rockets/UFOs which is 95%
pure origami. The standard quote "it ain't rocket science" doesn't apply
in this case!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/   - back online!





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 19:51:35 -0800
Subject: Update on 1,000 cranes for John

Greetings everybody:

To date, I have received 275 cranes in the mail from well wishers on the
list plus the ones I did to total 375.

I don't have the email addresses for everybody who sent cranes, so I'd like
to thank the following people:

Florence Tempko
Jane Rosemarin
Rachel Katz
Dorothy Engleman
Edith Kort
Jan Fodor
Anita Barber
Katherine Nelson
Katherine Meyer *(especially for her huge contribution of 100 cranes done on
her days off!) ^  ^

               ( * -)

                ----
John and I look forward to the mail everyday.  His progress is slow, because
he lost a lot of weight and his
appetite isn't back to normal because of the pain killers.  He's weak, but
he's able to stay up a bit longer every day and get his strength back little
by little.  By springtime, I hope he'll be able to take short walks with me
outside.  I plan to hang all the cranes from the ceiling of our deck off the
back of our house and put some wind chimes there too to make it bright and
cheerful.  He and I have been amazed by the variety of cranes that have
landed at our doorstep and nested in our mail box and we share them and the
messages after lunch or dinner.  We really appreciate all the efforts that
went into them!

Thanks for caring,
Ria Sutter   ^   ^





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:17:03 -0800
Subject: Re: Update on 1,000 cranes for John

Hi Ria,

Nice to hear from you. I know others will be inspired to send you more
cranes.

I've been packaging copies of my show tonight to mail to contributors. I
thought perhaps John and you might enjoy some origami video cheer.  If
you send me your address again, I'll be happy to send Folding California
to you.

Dorothy





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:23:38 -0800
Subject: Re: Update on 1,000 cranes for John

Mea culpa.  It was my intention to send my email to Ria privately.
Dorothy





From: Gil Elimor <gil_el@NETVISION.NET.IL>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 00:15:43 +0200
Subject: King Hussein

Hello Everyone !

I'm sorry that my first posting to this list is about such a sad
subject, but i just thought you would like to know that a shipment of
1000 cranes was sent from Israel to King Hussein with a prayer for him.
Unfortunately, i myself was not a part of this effort because i was not
aware of it.

We are all praying that the king will get better.

Gil





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 10:06:44 -0800
Subject: Why the 1,000 cranes for John

Greetings:

Uptil now I've been vague about what my husband's illness is because I hate
to think about the possibility of loosing him.  He has Non Hodgkins type
lymphoma in the 4th stage and he just had a spleenectomy.  It's like the
cancer that King Hussein had.  Anyhow, that's why I sought the cranes for
him cause I'm don't know how long he can survive with this cancer.  By
coincidence, my husband's nickname is "Jay" like the boy who also received a
1,000 cranes from list members.  Whoeverelse is willing to send some cranes
our way, I sure would welcome the additions to string and put up this spring
on our enclosed deck.

Best regards,
Ria Sutter   ^   ^





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:53:26 +0000
Subject: Anyone live near Jeremy Shafer?

Hi - I've just had a letter with the exciting news that JS will be
coming to the Spring BOS convention in  York. At last - help with my
juggling! I'd like to put some of his work in the next BOS mag, but
would like permission first.

Since the deadline is quickly approaching, I'd be really grateful if
anyone who lives/meets Jeremy could ask on my behalf & then email me
privately with his reply? Tell him I've got lots of his diagrams from
the BARF mags.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/   - back online!





From: Saliers <msaliers@HOME.COM>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:57:56 -0800
Subject: Origami Sighting (Hearing?)

In a radio skit aired Feb. 6, 1999 of the "Prairie Home Companion" (A
program aired by NPR [National Public Radio] ) the governor of the (U.S.
State) Minnesota (Jesse "the body" Ventura) wants detective "Guy Noir" to
make sure no one he nominates for the head of the department of corrections
does anything strange -- like origami in his spare time.





From: Mike Wareman <mike.wareman@OLDSCOLLEGE.AB.CA>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 14:24:53 -0700
Subject: New Origami webpage

Hello Fellow Finger Enhanced Folders:

I have been working on making my own webpage.  For the past few weeks I have
been creating a tips section in the Origami section of my webpage.  I
noticed that the arrangement of the pictures and the text need some help
when viewed using Internet Explorer (use at work) as apposed to using
Netscape (use at home).  What I would like is to hear from anyone else who
has been working on Marc's biplane.  Specifically, any tips that allow you
to fold the model.  I am also still having trouble folding the tail and
cowling sections.

Here is the address to the biplane:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Nook/4062/biplane.html

Michael G. Wareman
AV Services, Olds College Library
mike.wareman@oldscollege.ab.ca
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Nook/4062/





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:43:11 +0000
Subject: Re: Update on 1,000 cranes for John

Hi Ria:

Thanks for the Update Ria. Glad to hear you and John are enjoying the mail.
Is'nt it great to have something to look forward too. Your Crane Display idea
sounds wonderful! Hope you get it completed. I am in the process of folding more
cranes for you.....love folding cranes, especially for a good cause.

Please send cranes to:  Ria Sutter
                                    51 Brimwood Dr
                                    Vernon CT 06066

Kathy  <*))))><





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 17:32:50 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Why the 1,000 cranes for John

Ria, we need an address to send cranes to......





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 19:24:19 -0800
Subject: Where to send cranes for John

Dorigami:

My good friend Kathy Meyer gave my address in a prvious post since I
neglected to repeat it, but in case some folks missed it here it is again:
                                          John Sutter
                                          51 Brimwood Dr.
                                          Vernon, Ct 06066

Thanks again,
Ria Sutter





From: Thies de Waard <twaard@C.ECUA.NET.EC>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:40:29 -0500
Subject: Crane-diagram

Hi,

Could somebody send me, or tell me directions for, a diagram for
those cranes. I would be happy to send a bunch, but I always
asumed the cranes were the traditional flapping birds. Recently I got
the impression however that it concerns  a different model.

Thanks, Thies
----------------------------------
Thies de Waard
Apartado Postal 01-01-862
Cuenca, ECUADOR
+593-7-822052 (thuis/home/casa)
+593-7-840254 (werk/office/oficina)
Ik heb nu slechts n email-adres/
I now have only one email address/
Ahora solo tengo una direccin de correo electrnico:
twaard@c.ecua.net.ec





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:34:49 -0500 (
Subject: Re: meeting of COOP in Manalapan, N. J.

On Wed., Feb. 10, 7 to 9 o:clock there well the monthly meeting of Circle of
Origami Paperfolders at the Manalapan Monmouth Cty. Hdqts. Library off of Rte.
9/  If you live in the area try to come.  Bring Paper........Call Dorothy
Kaplan, 732-431-3050





From: Amy Huang <ahuang@GPU.SRV.UALBERTA.CA>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:25:05 -0700
Subject: Paper folders in China

Hi there,

        I got an e-mail not too long ago asking about if I knew any Chinese
paper folders. I thought I would post this question to the group since I
can't answer it myself.

        So, does anyone know much about anyone specifically from China who
has created origami books? Please share your input and I'll forward it over
to the individual who asked me.

        Thanks,
        Amy

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||  |        |           URL: http://www.ualberta.ca/~ahuang ||

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||  |        |   |||||   University of Alberta               ||
||  |  |)    |   |||||   Faculty of Pharmacy                 ||
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||  |   /\   |  |     |  Edmonton, Alberta, Canada           ||





From: RiffRaff <riffraff@NETWALK.COM>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:48:04 -0500
Subject: Re: 3-colorings, was "Hello!"

>Greetings!  Riff asks
>
>>>>
>Currently, I'm working on the dodecahedron (The one with five pyramids
>making each face, I think it's the 90-unit one), but the 3-color tiling is
>making me crazy... any hints?
><<<
>
>Yes, that's tricky.  I like to draw out the 3-coloring on paper
>(non-folded :) first - but doing that requires a smidgen of graph
>theory.  Structurally the 90-unit "dodecahedron" is actually
>a soccer ball.  That is, if you think of points where the pyramids
>meet as being "faces" of a polyhedron, then you have only faces
>with five or six pyramids going around them, thus faces with
>only 5 or 6 sides.  These are arranged just like the faces
>of a soccer ball.  Now, the soccer ball has 90 edges, so each edge
>of the soccer ball corresponds to a Sonobe unit in this model
>you're trying to make.

I got it, finally! :)  The biggest problem I was having was that I assumed
that all the hexagons would have 2 of each color, in the same configuration
- which isn't the case at all.  The last 5 tabs were almost impossible to
get in, with those variant Sonobe units, but other than that it looks
great.  Right now I'm working on a 48-unit octahedron (4 triangles per
face), which is coming together much easier, since the colors fall into
place in a very orderly fashion, unlike the dodecahedron which seems almost
random.  The added lumps make it a very interesting shape, too.  Maybe
after that I'll try a 120-piece icosohedron.

BTW, the interlaced tetrahedron diagram on your page is amazing!  Can't
wait to try it... but, what's a good way to divide a square into 3 equal
pieces?  The only way I know is to divide it into fourths and scrap one
piece, but that would ruin the proportions...

cheers,
--Riff





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 07:55:17 +0000
Subject: origtami sighting

I've just bought a book on using Adobe Illustrator (visual quickstart
guide) & scattered throughout the book are flapping birds, pinwheels
etc. Presumably the author is a folder on the side. By the by, is anyone
out there in oriland using Illustrator (PC) for their diagrams? I've got
a few little niggles I need sorting!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/   - back online!





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 08:08:29 -0800
Subject: Re: Crane-diagram

Jane Rosemarin wrote: HATORI Koshiro has animated instructions for the crane
on his web page.
Would that be an Origanimation??? or Origamination -- or should that word be
reserved for Japan?
And while I am, "playing Origami", with words -- Is David Lister an
Historigamiographer??

>

Martin R. Carbone
1227 De La Vina St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 Fax: 805-965-2414

WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<or>>
http://www.modelshops.com <<or>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 08:56:41 -0600
Subject: Re: Sea-snail shell: help!

Mark Rae asked about the Spiral Snail Shell by Toshikazu Kawasaki that
appears on page 140 of Origami for the Connoisseur.

The transformation from four openings to one is not as simple as the note
makes it seem. You do not actually reduce the number of openings in the
same basic model. The shell with one opening is quite different in
structure.

Both  models start out with a bird base and involve the same twist
technique at the end, but the one-opening version is essentially an
upside-down version of the four-opening model. It will be about 2/3 the
size of the four-opening shell when made from same-sized paper.

I did not figure this out myself. The directions for the the one-opening
version are on page 46 of Spirals by Tomoko Fuse (ISBN4-480-87202-7). (My
weekly advertisement for this book???)

-Jane "not an agent of Tomoko Fuse" Rosemarin





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:10:58 -0600
Subject: Re: Crane-diagram

Thies asked:

>Could somebody send me, or tell me directions for, a diagram for
>those cranes

HATORI Koshiro has animated instructions for the crane on his web page.

Of interest to those who already know the crane: these instructions
include a way to fold the preliminary base that is so fast it seems like
a magic trick:

http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/studio/orizuru/index.html

Have fun folding!

-Jane





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:18:09 -0600
Subject: Paper for Kawasaki New Rose

Help!

I will be teaching the Kawasaki New Rose on Sunday, and I wonder if
anyone has suggestions for good paper for first-timers. I was going to
use color laser paper (Ultra Bright), but it is really too thick. Kami is
a good weight, but I want the same color on both sides, and kami of this
description seems to be available only in very large packages for $40, if
I remember correctly.

I have lots of white washi, but this tends to soften easily if you don't
fold perfectly.

I may use lighter-weight office paper, if nothing better comes up.

Any ideas? (No mesh, please.)

And how about the ideal paper for this model for an experienced folder?

Thanks for your suggestions.

-Jane





From: Mark Rae <m.rae@INPHARMATICA.CO.UK>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:30:35 +0000
Subject: Re: Sea-snail shell: help!

Thies de Waard wrote:
>
> >strike today, so I have a holiday!), but am heaving trouble in step
> >20, where the frog-base has to be unfolded, and a number of circles
> >has to be sunk and raised. Does anyone have any tips how to do
> >that?. The mayor problem is that I have only two hands....
> >

Dolphin G wrote:
> This isn't too difficult once you get the hang of it.  I like to tackle
> each sink idividualy. First, make all the creases of the frog base
> sharp;  you're going to be unfolding th entire model several times.

I did all of the all of the pre-creasing for the five circles with the paper
laid out flat, it is fairly easy to work out where the creases
should go without having to fold through the 8 layers at once when it
is folded up. The downside is that you have to go round doing 8x5 creases,
the upside is that the sinks all sit very neatly and fall into place
very easily if you push them up and down in turn as described by
'Dolphin G'.

On a related note from the same book, the picture of the previous spiral shell
model is different from the one diagrammed, and the caption says that this was
done by finding a way to have only one opening rather than four.
>From the picture it can bee seen that on three of the sides, the fold at
the 'edge' of the shell has been moved inwards, so that flaps which you
pull out in the final stage tuck under the previous one.
Has anyone figured out a way of doing this?

    -Mark

--
Mark Rae                                       Tel: +44(0)171 631 4644
Inpharmatica                                   Fax: +44(0)171 631 4844
m.rae@inpharmatica.co.uk                http://www.inpharmatica.co.uk/





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:56:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Crane-diagram

Thies wrote:
>but I always
>asumed the cranes were the traditional flapping birds. Recently I got
>the impression however that it concerns  a different model.

If you're folding the flapping bird that looks like a crane,
the two models are the same up to the point where you
make the head and tail of the flapping bird.

Flapping bird: Once you have folded the crane base, you
reverse fold the two lower points to form the head and tail.

Traditional crane: Fold the crane base. Fold the 4 lower
flaps in half to make them narrower (not shorter!)
(I was taught this step as "skinnying up the legs.")
Then reverse fold the points to create the head and tail.
Making the head and tail narrower makes a more elegant
bird, but it won't flap it's wings.

You should be able to find crane diagrams on the web.
Here for instance are simple diagrams:
   http://www.sadako.org/foldingcranes.htm

Here's a page with nicer pictures:
   http://www-personal.umich.edu/~adysart/origami/crane/

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:42:53 +0000
Subject: Re: Crane-diagram

Hi Thies:

Joseph Wu has an excellent diagram for the crane on his site, here is the
link:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~adysart/origami/crane/

Kathy  <*))))><

Thies de Waard wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Could somebody send me, or tell me directions for, a diagram for
> those cranes. I would be happy to send a bunch, but I always
> asumed the cranes were the traditional flapping birds. Recently I got
> the impression however that it concerns  a different model.
>
> Thanks, Thies





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:50:06 +0000
Subject: Origami Chat

Hi All:

I would like to invite any new list members and remind
everyone that the "Origami Chat" meets every Tuesday evening
at 9pm EST.

Join us at:
http://www.the-village.com/origami/talk.html

Kathy  <*))))><





From: Stephen Canon <Stephen_Canon@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 11:21:59 -0500
Subject: dividing into thirds

>BTW, the interlaced tetrahedron diagram on your page is amazing!  Can't
>wait to try it... but, what's a good way to divide a square into 3 equal
>pieces?  The only way I know is to divide it into fourths and scrap one
>piece, but that would ruin the proportions...
>
>cheers,
>--Riff

We had this whole discussion not long ago, but from my viewpoint, the best
method is as follows:

1) Estimate a third in from one side, and pinch the paper along the side
2) loosely fold the opposite side to the pinch, and pinch IT off.
3) fold the first side to the new pinch, and pinch it off.
.
.
.
n) When the pinches are in the same place as old pinches, stop - you've got
even thirds.  This usually only takes 2 or 3 repetitions.

This is a bit hasty of a description, so it may be somewhat unclear.  Have
a look at the archives - I believe the thread was titiled "paper division
question".  There are exact methods for doing this division, as well, but
the leave extra creases that are undesirable on the compound of five
tetrahedra.

Stephen Canon
Stephen_Canon@brown.edu





From: EMADIANE@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:33:26 -0500 (
Subject: Cranes for John

Ria - Please post the address again for the sending of cranes. Thanks. Wishing
you and John both continued strength,

Diane Kleinman





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 17:10:49 +0100
Subject: Folding methods for preliminary base

Jane Rosemarin wrote about the fast folding method for the preliminary
base, shown on HATORI Koshiros webpage.
This is now the third method I know for folding that base. The first is
the one where you precrease the diagonals and the center lines and then
collapse the model into the base. The second method is the one where you
first fold the square in half into a triangle, then  fold the triangle
in half into an even smaller (double) triangle, and then squash the
front and back flap of this triangle to form the preliminary base. Are
there more methods for folding this base?

Matthias





From: Krystyna i Wojciech Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:38:44 +0100
Subject: Spring BOS convention

-----Wiadomo orginalna-----
Od: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Do: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Data: 7 lutego 1999 18:44
Temat: Anyone live near Jeremy Shafer?

 the Spring BOS convention in  York.
_________________________________________

I have checked BOS homepage, but there is no information about this convention.
Could you send any information ?

Best regards
Wojtek





From: Torsten Drees <torsten.drees@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:07:42 +0100
Subject: Re: dividing into thirds

Hi,

if you have to divide many pieces of paper in to thirds, you can make a
seperate square with extra crases. then you can fold it together with an
other square. you get only the two creases for division.

i developed my own method to divide into any number of peaces.

see my web page:
http://home.t-online.de/home/torsten.drees
and klick "help on division".

                              (oo)
 Torsten                       ||
                              <-->
 ==========================-oOO--OOo-========+
 Fax   : 02241 330395                        |
 email : torsten.drees@t-online.de           |
 Origami Models:                             |
 http://home.t-online.de/home/torsten.drees  |





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:36:44 -1000
Subject: sailor hat directions?

4Jokers wrote:
>
> Hello-
> My son is in a school play and needs a sailor's hat made from paper. He
> thought about doing it using oragami methods, but I cannot find any
> directions here in my area. Do you have any directions for making a sailor's
> hat using oragami?
> I hope you can help- I would be so very  greateful!
> Thank You,
> Joan
> 4Jokers@msn.com

Can someone respond to this call for help.  Thanks, Jan
--
<http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





From: Charles Knuffke <knuffke@SIRIUS.COM>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:59:29 -0800
Subject: Re: Anyone live near Jeremy Shafer?

Nick Robinson wrote:

> Hi - I've just had a letter with the exciting news that JS will be
> coming to the Spring BOS convention in  York. At last - help with my
> juggling! I'd like to put some of his work in the next BOS mag, but
> would like permission first.
>
> Since the deadline is quickly approaching, I'd be really grateful if
> anyone who lives/meets Jeremy could ask on my behalf & then email me
> privately with his reply? Tell him I've got lots of his diagrams from
> the BARF mags.
>

Nick (and everyone else):

Jeremy does have an e-mail address which you can reach through the Bay Area
     Rapid
Folders (BARF) website, which he created. For information, go to:
http://www.krmusic.com/barfup/barf.htm

Regards,

Charles Knuffke





From: Rob Moes <robert.moes@SNET.NET>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:48:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Paper for Kawasaki New Rose

Jane writes:

>I will be teaching the Kawasaki New Rose on Sunday, and I wonder if
>anyone has suggestions for good paper for first-timers.

>Any ideas? (No mesh, please.)

Office paper is the best idea I can think of.  That's how I got started.
Some of the shades like salmon and lavender are actually very nice for this
rose.  And the size is good.

>And how about the ideal paper for this model for an experienced folder?

I love arasuji washi for its beautiful colors (but expensive...60 cents per
6 inch sheet, which is small for this flower).  So I usually opt for unryu
(with the silky threads) cut from inexpensive large sheets.  I wish there
were lighter and brighter colors other than red.  I did find some peach
unryu at Dick Blick.  There's something about the translucent effect that's
very nice.  These fibered papers have always held up very well for me.

Would love to try cloud washi, which is a swirling pastel shade on a white
background... supposedly a "crisper" washi paper, not soft.  Has anyone
tried this?

Rob





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:21:18 -0600
Subject: Re: Illustrator

About Nick's Illustrator request:

I use Illustrator for the Mac for origami diagrams. I do not know the
program inside out, but I haven't found any niggles in it. Maybe they
don't exist in the Mac version. Or maybe they arose during the trip
across the Atlantic (or is it called the Semantic?).

I could attempt to answer questions, however.

-Jane





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 17:06:08 +0000
Subject: Columbus, Ohio

Hi All:

I'm going to be in Columbus, Ohio during the Easter Holiday.
Does anyone know of any paper shops or books stores in the
area of the Exposition Center?

Thanks in advance for your reply,
Kathy  <*))))><





From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 17:53:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Paper for Kawasaki New Rose

> Jane writes:
>
> >I will be teaching the Kawasaki New Rose on Sunday, and I wonder if
> >anyone has suggestions for good paper for first-timers.
>
> >Any ideas? (No mesh, please.)
I have a package of something called Faltblatter that I got from
Fascinating Folds.  The paper is 20 x 20 cm.  It is thin, but tough and it
is colored the same on both sides.  There is a slight difference in the
top and bottom side - one side (the top ?) is slightly more smooth, but
otherwise, the two sides are nearly identical.  I make all my roses out of
this stuff and they look great!

Hope this helps
Peg Barber
mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:19:54 -0800
Subject: Cranes for John

>X-Warning: mitvma.mit.edu: Host PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU claimed to be
>           MIT.EDU
>Date:         Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:33:26 EST
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>Sender: Origami Mailing List <Origami@MIT.Edu>
>From: EMADIANE@AOL.COM
>Subject:      Cranes for John
>Comments: To: Origami@MIT.EDU
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>
>Ria - Please post the address again for the sending of cranes. Thanks. Wishing
>you and John both continued strength,
>
>Diane Kleinman
>
>
Diane:

At the risk of repeating myself too many times here is the postal address
again:  John Sutter

      51 Brimwood Dr.

      Vernon, CT 06066
Thanks for your kind wishes,
Ria





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:18:29 -0800
Subject: Re: oirmation animating origami (was crane diagrams)

Wow, that would be the ultimate paper magic...an action model that moves
by itself.

What an intriguing origami challenge.

Dorothy





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:53:12 -0600
Subject: Re: Sea-snail shell: help!

A clip from Michael's post:

>Ah, this answers a long-held question of mine that Fuse's shell was the
>one referred to in OFTC.

A small clarification: The single-opening shell is not a Fuse design.
Although I do not read Japanese, I believe it is credited to Kawasaki in
Fuse's book. I figured this out by comparing characters at the top of the
page with those found elsewhere.

Thanks for the story about the nautilus shell.

-Jane





From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <Mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:57:19 -0500
Subject: Origami Sighting

The March 1999 issue of Family Fun magazine is a special crafts issue.
Included is an article on the "Kidcot Fun Stops" that the magazine sponsors
at the World Showcase in EPCOT Center (Walt Disney World, Florida).  The
article describes and gives instructions for the crafts at the Fun Stops.
The Japan stop features an origami butterfly, and the Germany stop an
origami "Edelweiss Hat".  The "Object of Fun" feature is also origami
related, covering the Paper Airplane, with folding instructions, time and
distance records, flight tips, and game suggestions.

Janet Hamilton

mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 22:15:53 -0500 (
Subject: Re: oirmation animating origami (was crane diagrams)

In a message dated 99-02-08 17:13:24 EST, you write:

> Has anyone tried an action model that moves by its self ?

Aloha Darren Scott,

There's a simple spring-loaded model called
"The Magic Tipper".

If I remember, the end result is a kite shape with a
mountain folded spine, and long and short ends.
You set it down on a table on its long end and wait.
Eventually, it opens wide enough to shift its center
of gravity, and tips over onto its short end.

Aloha,

kenny1414@aol.com
Kenneth Kawamura





From: "Dennis W. Manasco" <dmanasco@IONET.NET>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 02:49:53 -0600
Subject: Re: Crane-diagram

Jane Rosemarin wrote:

> Of interest to those who already know the crane: these instructions
> include a way to fold the preliminary base that is so fast it seems like
> a magic trick:
> http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/studio/orizuru/index.html

This is (as my daughter would say) a _seriously_cool_ way to fold the
bird base.

For a similar trick with the water bomb see:

http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~hatori/studio/bomb/index.html

Does anyone else prefer to fold their cranes' (and flapping birds')
heads with an outside reverse fold instead of an inside one? I always
think they look like they have more personality that way.

-=-D

_____________

It took six hours for residents of the district of Gunma, Maebashi,
Japan, to fold a paper crane measuring 52 feet 6 inches tall, with a
wingspan of 117 feet 2 inches, on October 28, 1995. -- Guinness World
Records Calendar (1998).

[BIG piece of paper....]





From: "J. Robert A. Lemieux" <rlemieux@MA.ULTRANET.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 03:45:59 -0500
Subject: Re: oirmation animating origami (was crane diagrams)

Kenny1414@AOL.COM wrote:

> There's a simple spring-loaded model called
> "The Magic Tipper".

"The Magic Tipper" appears under the name "Magic Triangle" in a book
by Kobayashi & Yamaguchi, Origami for Parties. ISBN: 0-87011-797-1.

Bob





From: Darren Scott <Darren.Scott@SCI.MONASH.EDU.AU>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 09:08:20 +0000
Subject: Re: oirmation animating origami (was crane diagrams)

> Would that be an Origanimation??? or Origamination -- or should that word be
> reserved for Japan?

Has anyone tried an action model that moves by its self ?
I've been thinking about this for a while. Using muscle wire or micro
servos the model would be self contained, no external wires or power.
These would be placed inside the model. Any model suggestions or
ideas would help.

Darren

-------------------------
Definition of Atheism:  a non-prophet organization.





From: Jean-Jerome CASALONGA <jj-casalonga@MAGIC.FR>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 10:04:27 +0100
Subject: Re: oirmation animating origami (was crane diagrams)

Dorothy asked :

>Wow, that would be the ultimate paper magic...an action
> model that moves by itself.

Well, Yoshihide Momotani, in one of his book, explain how to fold a flower.
This flower, when damped, opens itself like by magic.

        JJC





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 10:47:56 -0800
Subject: Re: Paper folders in China

At 12:10 99/02/09 -0500, Peter Budai wrote:
>At 12:25 AM 2/8/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>        So, does anyone know much about anyone specifically from China who
>>has created origami books?

Not to my knowledge. The Chinese seem to focus more on paper cutting.

>Well, I had the luck to visit China in 1997 and I found an origami booklet
>in a shop (and bought it). It is made for children, with simple models
>(some of them uses cuts). However, I can't read Chinese, thus I don't know
>who's the author.

It might have been a translation. What Chinese language origami books that
exist seem to come out of Taiwan. They do not have copyright laws, and so
they make many illegal Chinese translations of foreign books. The other
famous Chinese origami book is "Chinese Paper Folding" by Maying Soong. She
is somehow related to Chiang Kai Shek, formerly of China, and then of Taiwan.

>But if I think about China more, now Hong Kong belongs to China and there
>are some origamists who live in HK (for example Francis Ow, he has created
>more books already).

Francis actually lives in Singapore. Of the Hong Kong paperfolders, Phillip
Shen has moved to the USA. I know that there's still a group there, though.
I believe that David Chan and Janson Chow are still there, for example.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:10:46 -0500
Subject: Re: Paper folders in China

At 12:25 AM 2/8/99 -0700, you wrote:

>        So, does anyone know much about anyone specifically from China who
>has created origami books?

Well, I had the luck to visit China in 1997 and I found an origami booklet
in a shop (and bought it). It is made for children, with simple models
(some of them uses cuts). However, I can't read Chinese, thus I don't know
who's the author.

But if I think about China more, now Hong Kong belongs to China and there
are some origamists who live in HK (for example Francis Ow, he has created
more books already).

Hope this helped,

Peter Budai





From: Bill Clarke <llib@COMPUTER.ORG>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:21:46 +1100
Subject: Re: dividing into thirds

i usually do the "lined paper" method for this: see attached ascii
picture i sent some time ago to the newsgroup.  the origami paper is on
top of the lined paper and is aligned at the bottom corners.  fold where
the lines of the lined paper hit the origami paper.

cheers,
/lib
--
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http://llib.tsx.org mailto:llib-at-computer-dot-org tel:+61-2-62798636
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mozilla KDD/DM XFiles StarTrek Goodies DrWho Asimov Bear Clarke Jordan
Lackey Martin Stasheff Volleyball Origami Cricket DeepPurple H&C Queen
PinkFloyd v1.2a s+d>r TW 1/0/pw Gfm 1? pp Animals 9 26 50.0% <14dec98>





From: Michael Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:40:50 +1100
Subject: Re: Sea-snail shell: help!

On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Jane Rosemarin wrote:

> Both  models start out with a bird base and involve the same twist
> technique at the end, but the one-opening version is essentially an
> upside-down version of the four-opening model. It will be about 2/3 the
> size of the four-opening shell when made from same-sized paper.
>
> I did not figure this out myself. The directions for the the one-opening
> version are on page 46 of Spirals by Tomoko Fuse (ISBN4-480-87202-7). (My
> weekly advertisement for this book???)

Ah, this answers a long-held question of mine that Fuse's shell was the
one referred to in OFTC. Thankyou Jane!

As an aside, I would just like to add that Jane's praise for the "Spirals"
book is certainly warranted. To relate a previous experience of my own, a
fellow worker recently helped me track down a paper supplier in Sydney. As
a thankyou present I folded a Nautilus shell from the aforementioned book,
and a triceratops from "Origami Fantasy" for her young son. Although not
the hardest model in this book, it takes me quite a while to finish, and I
personally think the finished product looks pretty special.

On presenting both models to the co-worker, I was a little suprised at the
number of "oohs and aahhs" the shell got over the dinosaur (she was among
a group of friends at the time I gave her the models). I guess this is a
case of simple beauty winning out over complexity. I have often received
favourable comments about Fuse's shells, but this is the first time I have
seen it compete with another model and win hands-down.]

Keep plugging that book Jane - you are the reason I purchased it in the
first place.

Regards,
Michael Janssen-Gibson





From: Sy Chen <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:35:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Paper folders in China

Francis Ow lives in Singapore.  Most of the Singaporeans have Chinese
origin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Paper folders in China

>At 12:25 AM 2/8/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>        So, does anyone know much about anyone specifically from China who
>>has created origami books?
>
>Well, I had the luck to visit China in 1997 and I found an origami booklet
>in a shop (and bought it). It is made for children, with simple models
>(some of them uses cuts). However, I can't read Chinese, thus I don't know
>who's the author.
>
>But if I think about China more, now Hong Kong belongs to China and there
>are some origamists who live in HK (for example Francis Ow, he has created
>more books already).
>
>Hope this helped,
>
>Peter Budai





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:37:52 -0800
Subject: Re: Paper folders in China

At 04:18 99/02/10 -0500, Marc Kirschenbaum wrote:
>At 10:47 AM 2/9/99 -0800, Joseph Wu wrote:
>>At 12:10 99/02/09 -0500, Peter Budai wrote:
>>>At 12:25 AM 2/8/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>        So, does anyone know much about anyone specifically from China who
>>>>has created origami books?
>>
>>Not to my knowledge. The Chinese seem to focus more on paper cutting.
>
>I guess you forgot about yourself (you are famous and of Chinese origin,
>right?). Then again, the original question was asking for origami authors,
>so I guess you you do not meet the criteria yet (like I should talk).

That, and the fact that the original question was asking about people
"specifically from China" which also does not apply to me.

Oh, yeah...when's your book coming out again? >;)
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From: Deborah Miller <jpm14@CORNELL.EDU>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 14:22:59 -0500
Subject: Fuse Spirals book

Am a fan of T. Fuse's modular box books and have been looking for the
Tomoko Fuse "Spirals" book since it has gotten good press here recently but
am having difficulty finding a dealer who can find it, much less carries
it.  Even with the ISBN.  Can anyone please tell me a shop which might have
it?
Thanks,
Deborah





From: Sy Chen <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 15:08:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Paper folders in China

Taiwan does have "copyrights" laws. Illegal copies come either before the
law established.  Or it is just enforcement issue.

As for paper folders I would guess many of them are either hidden or work
isolately (or locally) like some of the  Kung Fu masters.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Paper folders in China

 What Chinese language origami books that
>exist seem to come out of Taiwan. They do not have copyright laws, and so
>they make many illegal Chinese translations of foreign books. The other
>famous Chinese origami book is "Chinese Paper Folding" by Maying Soong. She
>is somehow related to Chiang Kai Shek, formerly of China, and then of
Taiwan.





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:55:39 +0000
Subject: Re: Illustrator

Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET> sez

>I could attempt to answer questions, however.

Thanks - I may well call on your expertise...

all the best,

Nick Robinson

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