




From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:20:10 -0600
Subject: Re: Failed attempts

Sandra P. Hoffman wrote:
>
> On 28 Jan 99, at 12:24, Jorma Oksanen wrote:
>
> > On 28-Jan-99, Marc Kirschenbaum (marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM) wrote:
> >
> > >I really do have trouble relating to people who tear models up. I usually
> > >give my "failed" attempts away, or simply rename them.
> >
> > I do the opposite - I don't give away bad models.  That leads some
> > people looking at my shelves thinking I'm not too good at origami

The first one you try of a particular model is always bad.
it is an axiom of origami.
While I do not tear up my failures.
I don't keep or give them away either.
I'm a perfectionist that way.





From: "Sandra P. Hoffman" <ghidra@IGS.NET>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 23:52:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Failed attempts (Was Re: chessboard)

On 28 Jan 99, at 12:24, Jorma Oksanen wrote:

> On 28-Jan-99, Marc Kirschenbaum (marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM) wrote:
>
> >I really do have trouble relating to people who tear models up. I usually
> >give my "failed" attempts away, or simply rename them.
>
> I do the opposite - I don't give away bad models.  That leads some
> people looking at my shelves thinking I'm not too good at origami :)

I find there are two kinds of failed models. Ones that don't work out
the way they are supposed to but are of some recognizable form.
My children, for whom I do most of my folding, are very forgiving
and can't really understand, for instance, why I would keep trying to
get Lang's King Tut right when it looks perfectly fine to them, even if
it doesn't quite look like the one in the book.

The other kind of failed model is the kind where I get hung up on a
step part way through, and, no matter how hard I try, can't get
anything recognizable to happen. Usually, this kind of failure gets
taken apart and refolded to the offending section so many times that
the paper starts to fall apart, at which point I quickly add a large
number of random folds and toss the result across the room.

I'm not a very good folder. I don't get enough time to practice. I do
enjoy the process though, even though the results are often less
than gratifying.

sph
---------------
Sandra P. Hoffman
ghidra@igs.net
http://www.flora.org/sandra/





From: =?iso-8859-1?B?VEhPUktJTEQgU9hOREVSR8VSRA==?= <thokiyenn@GET2NET.DK>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 00:17:02 +0100
Subject: Sv:      Re: origami as mental therapy site

Jonathan J. Picker wrote:
>        I checked out the gallery on the above site and the DNA model by Thoki
>Yenn caught my eye.  Further searching revealed that I could possibly find
>instructions for folding it in BOS booklet #13.  Alas, the BOS site doesn't
>list #13 for sale.  Are there any other options available to me?

Yes Jonathan

The Diagram for The DNA-4 Molecule will be on
my temporary Homepage in a few minutes
:http://www.netby.net/Vest/Ensomheden/Origami/

You can look at what I have managed
to get on to it by the help of Nick Robinson.

BTW - it is not in the BOS Booklet No. 13
but in the Book of Spirals by Tomoko Fuse
as Jane Rosemarin suggested.
A Book which you should get hold of
also to have go at Jeff Beynon's massterpiece
of a spiral coming alive. "In and Out".

Greetings
Kalmon the Great and Glorious

on behalf of Thok 99
he has fallen asleep in front of his TV





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:41:17 -0500 (
Subject: Where has Sasuga gone?

Can anyone tell me how to access the Sasuga Bookshop.

I have visited their site at ==   http://world.std.com/~sasuga   == several
times in the past, but I now get the message "Not Found". I get this answer
whether I insert this URL myself or whether I go through an Altavista search.

Altavista gives several other Sasuga sites, but not that of their online
bookstore.

David Lister.





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:41:18 -0500 (
Subject: Name of this List

I should be glad to know the official name of this List. I used to know it as
"Origami-L", which was presumably short for "The Origami List" and was
reflected in the E-mail address.

However, now that the List has changed servers and Origami-L does not appear
in the address, what should we call it to be correct.?

David Lister.





From: Sy Chen <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 08:14:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Where has Sasuga gone?

New address is http://www.sasugabooks.com/
For origami: http://www.sasugabooks.com/store/origami.html
Have fun!
Sy Chen

At 04:41 AM 1/31/99 EST, you wrote:
>Can anyone tell me how to access the Sasuga Bookshop.
>
>I have visited their site at ==   http://world.std.com/~sasuga   == several
>times in the past, but I now get the message "Not Found". I get this answer
>whether I insert this URL myself or whether I go through an Altavista search.
>
>Altavista gives several other Sasuga sites, but not that of their online
>bookstore.
>
>David Lister.





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:49:35 +0100
Subject: Re: ??? Was:(Re: Dirty Laundry)

At 08:41 PM 1/30/99 +0100, Roberto Morassi:

>but better we stop now. I don't know how many others
>here are really interested in an Italian chat ! Sorry....

Yeah, yeah. Sorry for anyone being angry!

Peter Budai





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:49:39 +0100
Subject: Re: tenu@SCI.FI

Hi List!

Outch! I was really surprised seeing that mail coming from the list.
Sorry, it was ontended directly to Jorma.

Peter Budai





From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:41:20 -0800 (
Subject: Re: Failed attempts

>> > On 28-Jan-99, Marc Kirschenbaum (marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM) wrote:
>> >
>> > >I really do have trouble relating to people who tear models up. I
usually
>> > >give my "failed" attempts away, or simply rename them.
>> >
I thik I'll take up that suggestion.  I folded an ant about two weeks
ago and tried to do it again now...  I've totally forgotten how to
finish it off.  I still have the original, but it's locked very well
(and just a bit "fudged";  I still have to think of a neater folding
sequence)  and I'm afraid of tearing it.  This "new" one should make a
nice space alien though...

Dolphin

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From: Rob Moes <robert.moes@SNET.NET>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:57:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Name of this List

>Date:         Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:41:18 EST
>Reply-To: Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>Sender: Origami Mailing List <Origami@MIT.Edu>
>From: DLister891@AOL.COM
>Subject:      Name of this List
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>
>I should be glad to know the official name of this List. I used to know it as
>"Origami-L", which was presumably short for "The Origami List" and was
>reflected in the E-mail address.
>
>However, now that the List has changed servers and Origami-L does not appear
>in the address, what should we call it to be correct.?

Of course, here is the header I receive with my mail.  It would seem that
Origami Mailing List is the designated name.  Does anyone see any conflict
or confusion if we refer to it as "The Origami List"?  I'm not aware of
any.  But of course I don't live in Japan.    :)

Rob
robert.moes@snet.net





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:24:08 +0000
Subject: Re: Failed attempts

Hi All:

It's nice to hear that others have failed attempts. I'm suffering from "Origami
Phobia". After so many failed attempts I find myself hesitating to learn a new
model. I go through my books, carefully looking at each step wondering which one
is going to "stump me".

Guess I just need more practice. I do enjoy the process and the feeling of
accomplishment when I do finish a model is what keeps me going. But failure is
so hard to take...and so frustrating!!! I'm in a slump and just need to find the
courage to keep trying, and just the right model to get me out of my slump!

This happened to me once before but than I folded Steven Weiss's $$ pig. I was
so happy when I completed it and it was so much fun to fold. It really is
amazing how a piece of paper can be folded in so many ways. The process is as
much gratifying as the completed model.

Okay, I'm ready to try something new......thanks for listening and thank you all
for the encouragement I receive through this list.

Kathy  <*))))><





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:35:18 +0000
Subject: Re: origami as mental therapy site

Jonathan J. Picker <Verdigris@EARTHLINK.NET> sez

> Alas, the BOS site doesn't
>list #13 for sale.  Are there any other options available to me?

In all these cases, write to the BOS supplies secretary via the BOS web
site - tell him what you want & if there's enough demand, we can hoik it
up our reprint schedule. Our policy is to (eventually) have ALL booklets
in stock.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/   - back online!





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:38:13 +0000
Subject: Re: biggest boat

Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM> sez

>I will host a victory dinner at Palazzio's if we win. Will your
>> design work, Nick??

Don't see why not - contact me privately & I'll explain the principle -
it's a variation on a trad design.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/   - back online!





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:41:34 +0000
Subject: diagram exchange

The BOS web site now has a diagram exchange page for use instead of the
guest book. Please try to bear in mind copyright issues and balance this
with the spirit of sharing that is so important to origami.

Comments on the format open to suggestions.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - now featuring soda syphons!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/   - back online!





From: Larry Finch <LarryFinch@AOL.COM>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:20:26 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Name of this List

In a message dated 99-01-31 04:42:33 EST, DLister891@AOL.COM writes:

> I should be glad to know the official name of this List. I used to know it
> as
>  "Origami-L", which was presumably short for "The Origami List" and was
>  reflected in the E-mail address.
>
>  However, now that the List has changed servers and Origami-L does not
appear
>  in the address, what should we call it to be correct.?
>

It's email address is ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU and it's short name is simply
"Origami List" as set up in the L-Soft Listserv software at MIT. We can call
it anything we want. Origami-L was the name it had on the old listserv
software at nstn.ca.

You can learn all about the list (including its members) by sending email to
LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU and put the following in the body of the message (the
subject can be anything you want):

   REVIEW ORIGAMI

Larry





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:26:46 -0800
Subject: Re: failed attempts

Greetings:

I couldn't resist adding to the thread of this post.  Sometimes my failed
attempts become a new model of somethingelse ( very rarely); sometimes they
become cat toys and sometimes they are just delayed successes after my
frustration has passed; sometimes they just remain challenges for the future
or just unsolved puzzles for somebodyelse to solve.  I've become sort of
philosophical in  my old age:)

Ria  ( who enjoys a good puzzle even if she can't solve it)





From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@DORSAI.ORG>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:59:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Failed attempts

>
> Hi All:
>
> It's nice to hear that others have failed attempts. I'm suffering from
     "Origami
> Phobia". After so many failed attempts I find myself hesitating to learn a new
> model. I go through my books, carefully looking at each step wondering which
     one
> is going to "stump me".
>
> Guess I just need more practice. I do enjoy the process and the feeling of
> accomplishment when I do finish a model is what keeps me going. But failure is
> so hard to take...and so frustrating!!! I'm in a slump and just need to find
     the
> courage to keep trying, and just the right model to get me out of my slump!

How do you define failure? The minute you get stuck at completing a model?
Some times I spend an hour on a model and some times I spend days or weeks.
When you feel frustrated, put the unfinished model away and try again a day
or so later. You may get lucky :-)

--
---
Sheldon Ackerman.......http://www.dorsai.org/~ackerman/
ackerman@dorsai.org
sheldon_ackerman@fc1.nycenet.edu





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:34:59 -0800
Subject: size for John's 1001 cranes

Greetings again:

No problem getting on the net tonight with Superbowl in progress!  Anyway,
besides thanking those of you who have sent some beautiful cranes and
messages, I wanted to let people know that I will use smaller cranes too,
but 6" size paper will work out best and I think it's the handiest size to
fold.  I plan to thank people through personal emails as the cranes come.
Mail time has definitely been a time that John and I look forward to everyday.

Regards to all,
Ria   ^   ^





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:02:25 -0800
Subject: Failure

Paraphrasing Woody Allen -- " If you don't fail once in a while -- you
are playing it too safe."
Also -- paraphrasing Sophia Loren --- " Mistakes are the price we pay
for living a full life"
And Paraphrasing Steven Jobs -- " If they risk mistakes -- they are
still artists".

--
Martin R. Carbone





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:12:17 -0600
Subject: Re: Failed attempts

Sheldon Ackerman wrote:

> > It's nice to hear that others have failed attempts. I'm suffering from
     >"Origami
> Phobia". After so many failed attempts I find myself hesitating >to learn a
     new
> model.

Snip

> >But failure is so hard to take...and so frustrating!!! I'm in a slump and
     just
> >need to find the courage to keep trying,

> Some times I spend an hour on a model and some times I spend days or weeks.
> When you feel frustrated, put the unfinished model away and try again a day
> or so later. You may get lucky :-)

He is right you know we all have models that for some reason or another we have
trouble with, for me it is Gamera, from one of the Japanese annuals (I think)
     so after
I frustrate my self I put it away for a while and tell myself, maybe next time
     I'll
get it right.  Sooner or later if every now and then you try you will!  I have
     notes I
have written in the margins of diagrams and even in some of my books to remind
     me if I
found something out on a hard model.  For example I have notes in my copy of
     "The
Complete Book of Origami" by Lang telling me what dimensions of paper will give
     what
results.  Any way long and short.  The book you shut and put away will survive
     to be
worked on another day.  As opposed to being ripped in half in sheer frustration
     (my
copy of "Lifestyle Origami").

Perry

--
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From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:44:25 -0600
Subject: Thoki Yenn's website

This is a Great site!!!!! Found it very entertaining :)
Can't wait to see more.

Thanks Thok 99 & Kalmon

Kathy <*))))><

THORKILD SXNDERGERD wrote:
>
> The Diagram for The DNA-4 Molecule will be on
> my temporary Homepage in a few minutes
> :http://www.netby.net/Vest/Ensomheden/Origami/
>
> You can look at what I have managed
> to get on to it by the help of Nick Robinson.
>
> Greetings
> Kalmon the Great and Glorious
>
> on behalf of Thok 99
> he has fallen asleep in front of his TV





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:44:32 +0000
Subject: Boston Holiday

Hello,

    At the end of April, I will be in Boston/Cape Cod for a fortnight.
Can anyone tell me of good origami related places of interest? (apart
from Sasuga!)

                                                Dennis Walker





From: Joyce Saler <ladyada@TIAC.NET>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:58:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Boston Holiday

Dennis
Go to Michael LaFosse's web page http://www.origamido.com/ where you will
find directions of how to visit his studio. I think that there is a train
from Boston that goes close by.
Fanuil Hall Marketplace also has an origami store.

Cambridge on the Red Line at Porter Square
If you know Sasuga, in the same area, Massachusetts Avenue is the Porter
Square Exchange which is like the Little Ginza of Toyko with Japanese food,
bookstore and a gift store that has good paper and some simple origami
books.
Across the street from the Porter Exchange is The Paper Store, also worth
visiting just for paper.

Joyce Saler





From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:27:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Boston Holiday

In regards to Dennis' query about Boston, Joyce writes:

>>>
Fanuil Hall Marketplace also has an origami store.
<<<

Acutally, I don't think that's there anymore.  They closed down
several years ago, and if they've reopened, no one's told
me about it!

Another cool place to go is Rugg Road, 105 Charles Street (near the
Charles/MGH T-stop on the red line).  This is an artisan paper shop,
and if you're a fan of the elusive Elephant Hide paper, they have
plenty of it there!  (As well as some origami books and other coolish
stuff.)

I second visiting Michael LaFosse's Origamido Studio in Haverhill
(you'd have to take the commuter rail to get there).  It's
definitely worth the trip!

Another thing you should do is contact someone like me, who lives
in Boston (actually, Somerville, but it's close enough) to see
if there are any origami gatherings going on.  Wait till closer
to your trip, though, as we're a spur-of-the-moment group.

----- Tom "tour guide" Hull
      thull@merrimack.edu





From: Rob Moes <robert.moes@SNET.NET>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:07:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Failed attempts

>> Guess I just need more practice. I do enjoy the process and the feeling of
>> accomplishment when I do finish a model is what keeps me going. But
>>failure is
>> so hard to take...and so frustrating!!! I'm in a slump and just need to
>>find the
>> courage to keep trying, and just the right model to get me out of my slump!

I'm 35 years old, and origami has been part of my life ever since I picked
up Robert Harbin's "Secrets of Origami" back in 1970.

My mother saved many of my attempts over the years, particularly the ones I
worked very hard on and just couldn't get right.  She would not let me
throw them away.  Of course she loves recalling the little stories behind
the bunny rabbits and first elephants.  And you want to know something?
There's something to be said for taking these things back out after 10 or
20 years and reliving the pain and the joy and the frustration.  Definitely
good for the soul!

Put the trophies on the mantle, and put the misfit origami toys in a
shoebox.  One day you'll be glad you did.

Rob
robert.moes@snet.net





From: Matthias Gutfeldt <tanjit@BBOXBBS.CH>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:30:46 -0800
Subject: Re: Failed attempts

Hi all,

I'm very familiar with failure so I'll de-lurk for a moment and try to
comment.

Katherine J. Meyer wrote:
> It's nice to hear that others have failed attempts. I'm suffering from
     "Origami
> Phobia". After so many failed attempts I find myself hesitating to learn a new
> model. I go through my books, carefully looking at each step wondering which
     one
> is going to "stump me".

I think failure is as much a part of paperfolding as success is. But you
fail too often, try to go one or two steps back in complexity. You'll be
amazed at how simple the less complex models are all of a sudden,
compared to the nightmares of your 300-fold- scorpion.

Personally, I prefer folding 10 simple models to folding 1 complex one;
I then have more models to give away, and I have trained my dexterity on
those "simple" and "basic" moves that are the cornerstones of every
model, no matter how complex. If you can't make a decent sink fold on an
easy model, you'll never be able to make it on a complex model. If the
petal folds on your crane don't come out perfect (or nearly so), how can
you make a petal fold on a more complex model, where accuracy is much
more important?

So, if I have any advice to give, it's this: Practice the simple
designs, advance slowly, and give those "failed" models to people that
don't know a thing about origami ;-).

Matthias, usually too busy with origami to write about it.





From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@TESSELLATION.COM>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:46:36 -0500
Subject: Re: Boston Holiday

>Hello,
>
>    At the end of April, I will be in Boston/Cape Cod for a fortnight.
>Can anyone tell me of good origami related places of interest? (apart
>from Sasuga!)
>
>
>                                                Dennis Walker

Michael LaFosse's OrigamiDo studio in Haverhill.

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From: mike jordan <registered_corp@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 07:07:51 -0800 (
Subject: Re: this big?

Hi,
        Thanks for your mail. Actually, i just wanted to know whether people
really did make huge origami models. Do you know of people doing this
sort of thing in the UK or France? I'm working on a special project at
present and any leads would be appreciated.

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From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:04:42 -0800 (
Subject: Macintosh blues

    Is there anyone with a Mac out there?  I just tried to download
several of Mac Kirschenbaum's creations.  First I tried "Fluffy".
Netscape gave me an error and asked if I want to continue.  I continued,
and Fluffy works fine on my Acrobat Reader.  Then I tried several
others: Elephant, biplane, spider crab...  Netscape didn't give me any
errors, but A.R tells me that it can't read them and they might be
damaged.  Any ideas?
    Thanks in advance,
Dolphin

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From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 13:21:05 -0600
Subject: Re: Failed attempts

"You learn to love the pain you feel"
                                        from Queer by Garbage

> I'm 35 years old, and origami has been part of my life ever since I picked
> up Robert Harbin's "Secrets of Origami" back in 1970.
>
> My mother saved many of my attempts over the years, particularly the ones I
> worked very hard on and just couldn't get right.  She would not let me
> throw them away.  Of course she loves recalling the little stories behind
> the bunny rabbits and first elephants.  And you want to know something?
> There's something to be said for taking these things back out after 10 or
> 20 years and reliving the pain and the joy and the frustration.  Definitely
> good for the soul!
>
> Put the trophies on the mantle, and put the misfit origami toys in a
> shoebox.  One day you'll be glad you did.





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:20:09 -0600
Subject: new model

Hi all!

I thought you might like to know that for once I am actualy on
time for once with this monthes model!!

This time I put up a toy!   Yes I love toys and action models,
it's name is Jonathon Jump Ant!  It not only vaguely resembles an
ant and if you tap it it jumps, hey it isn't frog, but then again
don't we have enough jumping frogs allready?  OK maybe not.  Take
look and have fun!!

Perry

--
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http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: Jeffrey Yen <orangex3@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 15:27:34 -0800
Subject: nausicaa

Hi,
Has anyone seen the anime Nausicaa by Miyazaki?  Well, in there is
this buglike thing (I forgot the name of it).  It's the one that has
lots of legs and craws around.  Well, I saw an origami book with a
picture of it.  Someone actually folded one(I forgot who).  Does
anyone know where I can find more info on it or how to fold it?  It
looks really nice.  Thank you.

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From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@KIMSCRANE.COM>
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:13:26 -0500
Subject: Re: New Stuff At Kim's Crane

Please come have a look at the new items Kim's Crane has in stock.
Sincerely,
Kimberly
http://www.kimscrane.com





From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:18:23 -0600
Subject: Re: Macintosh blues

I don't do windows myself.
Try making sure you have an up to date version of acrobat.
I have had that problem lately with 1.0 but once I upgraded
no problem

Dolphin G. wrote:
>
>     Is there anyone with a Mac out there?  I just tried to download
> several of Mac Kirschenbaum's creations.  First I tried "Fluffy".
> Netscape gave me an error and asked if I want to continue.  I continued,
> and Fluffy works fine on my Acrobat Reader.  Then I tried several
> others: Elephant, biplane, spider crab...  Netscape didn't give me any
> errors, but A.R tells me that it can't read them and they might be
> damaged.  Any ideas?
>     Thanks in advance,
> Dolphin





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 23:25:18 -0800
Subject: Re: nausicaa

At 15:27 1999-02-01 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Has anyone seen the anime Nausicaa by Miyazaki?  Well, in there is
>this buglike thing (I forgot the name of it).  It's the one that has
>lots of legs and craws around.  Well, I saw an origami book with a
>picture of it.  Someone actually folded one(I forgot who).  Does
>anyone know where I can find more info on it or how to fold it?  It
>looks really nice.  Thank you.

The bug is called the "ohmu" (or sometimes romanised as "oomu"). Here's the
relevant message from the archives:

>Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:37:07 -0400 (AST)
>From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
>Subject: Ohmu (or Oomu): Origami of Anime
>
>Jeannine asked about who designed the Oomu that was featured in
>Oru. I remember seeing it, but couldn't remember where. I search
>through my copies revealed an Oomu on page 27 of issue number 8.
>That one was designed by TSUDA Yoshio, a man who apparently
>specializes in insects. No mention is made about the availability
>of diagrams. I'll try to ask the Tanteidan about that.
>
>I seem to remember seeing a different Oomu in one of the other
>issues of Oru, but I couldn't find it. The search continues.

I never did find out if diagrams are available...probably indicating that they
are not.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 00:35:10 -0800 (
Subject: Address wanted

HI

Does anyone have any address for either of these two Japanese folders

KIMURA

SEIJI

I would be grateful for any information.

Thank you

regards

Imtiaz Razvi

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From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:11:32 -0500
Subject: Change of Heart credit.

Whilest looking for something else), I was looking through "Models by
Members, vol 1" published by OUSA.

In it I found the model "Flower Heart" by Kathleen Weiler.  Flower
Heart is from a a 2x1, not 3x7, but it is the same model that Charles
Knuffke diagramed (Thanks!).  I don't know who adapted it to a
$bill though.

-D'gou





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 03:58:50 -0500 (
Subject: Ohmu in ORU (was Re: nausicaa)

In a message dated 99-02-01 20:02:35 EST, you write:

> Hi,
>  Has anyone seen the anime Nausicaa by Miyazaki?  Well, in there is
>  this buglike thing (I forgot the name of it).  It's the one that has
>  lots of legs and craws around.  Well, I saw an origami book with a
>  picture of it.  Someone actually folded one(I forgot who).  Does
>  anyone know where I can find more info on it or how to fold it?  It
>  looks really nice.  Thank you.

Hello again,  (this is Kenneth Kawamura, again)

I was wrong, the buglike thing is an OHMU.

I went to Joseph Wu's Home Page,
and used the archive search, looking for "nausicaa"
to find this in the origami mailing list archives:
(there are two other hits.)

---- begin clip ----
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 15:56:40 -0400 (AST)
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Origamists that are juggling chemists
Mark writes:
    AWESOME!  I'd love to learn Japanese....I watch loads of Anime
(Manga
    videos to you heathens out there) and I prefer the original language
    versions!
Does anyone else watch Anime?  I've looked at the racks of it in a
local video store, but I don't know where to start.  I'd love some
recommendations.
Obligatory origami content: Did any of you origamists who are familiar
with the works of the great animator Hayao Miyazaki (My Neighbor
Totoro, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind) notice a photograph of a
truly awesome model of an "OHMU" in a recent issue of ORU?  Does anyone
know whose model it is?  I'd love the directions for that one.
         -- Jeannine Mosely
---- end clip ----

Sorry, I don't know which ORU that is. Let me see whether I can find
a reference to the origami "model index" by searching the archives.
---- begin clip ----
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:46:15 -0400 (AST)
From: Dennis Brannon <brannon@jamin.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Hershey Nugget "chocolate with almonds" candy wrappers
After seeing the Hershey Nugget commercial for about the 10th time,
where the
      candy wrapper
folds itself into a peacock, a dinosaur, and a frog, I decided to test
their
      wrapper to see if it would
work for my favorite models.  Ok... so it was a great excuse to eat
chocolate
      8^)...

8< snip >8

So I started searching the origami model index to find the models from
the
      commercial.
(via Alex Bateman's searcher
http://www.mrc-cpe.cam.ac.uk/jong/agb/origami.html)
---- end paste ----

Oops. That site doesn't appear to be there anymore. *sigh*.
I was hoping it could find which issue of ORU had the OHMU.

Sorry, I guess that's all I know now. I don't feel energetic
enough to go looking thru my pile of ORU back-issues.

Aloha from Michigan,
Kenneth Kawamura
kenny1414@aol.com





From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 08:28:49 -0800 (
Subject: Re: Macintosh blues:Solved

>I don't do windows myself.
>Try making sure you have an up to date version of acrobat.
>I have had that problem lately with 1.0 but once I upgraded
>no problem

Yup, that was it.  I upgraded from 2.1 to 3.0 and it works fine, except
for a printing error I'll have to work on...  Thanks everyone.

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From: Pat Bush <patbush@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:03:33 -0800 (
Subject: heart kusudama or heart modulars?

Hi Everyone!
     I am trying to do something unusual for Valentine's Day.  I was
trying to do something that would be modular but in keeping with the
sentiment of the holiday.  (I know,I have probably watched too many
Martha Stewart TV shows, but still it seems that it could be
accomplished.)  Any ideas?  Thanks in advance--Pat Bush

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From: Jeffrey Yen <orangex3@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:31:28 -0800
Subject: Re: nausicaa

thank you

---Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA> wrote:
>
> At 15:27 1999-02-01 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >Has anyone seen the anime Nausicaa by Miyazaki?  Well, in there is
> >this buglike thing (I forgot the name of it).  It's the one that has
> >lots of legs and craws around.  Well, I saw an origami book with a
> >picture of it.  Someone actually folded one(I forgot who).  Does
> >anyone know where I can find more info on it or how to fold it?  It
> >looks really nice.  Thank you.
>
> The bug is called the "ohmu" (or sometimes romanised as "oomu").
Here's the
> relevant message from the archives:
>
> >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:37:07 -0400 (AST)
> >From: Joseph Wu <origami@planet.datt.co.jp>
> >Subject: Ohmu (or Oomu): Origami of Anime
> >
> >Jeannine asked about who designed the Oomu that was featured in
> >Oru. I remember seeing it, but couldn't remember where. I search
> >through my copies revealed an Oomu on page 27 of issue number 8.
> >That one was designed by TSUDA Yoshio, a man who apparently
> >specializes in insects. No mention is made about the availability
> >of diagrams. I'll try to ask the Tanteidan about that.
> >
> >I seem to remember seeing a different Oomu in one of the other
> >issues of Oru, but I couldn't find it. The search continues.
>
> I never did find out if diagrams are available...probably indicating
that they
> are not.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
> t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
> w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca
>

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From: Michael Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:39:07 +1100
Subject: ordering directly from Japan

Hello all,

Once again I need to tap into that ever-helpful community known as
origami-l for some advice.

When ordering Japanese origami titles my usual port-of-call is Sasuga
Bookstore, and their service has always been excellent. I find, however,
that my budget cannot maintain the financial strain of supporting the
additional profit plus postage expenses. To solve this problem I could of
course stop buying books, but as this would be like asking me to forget
how to walk I am seeking other solutions ;}.

Does anyone out there order directly from a particular Japanese bookstore
or supplier? I already know about Gallery Origami House and their
publications. I was seeking a more generalised outlet.

Any help is, as always, much appreciated

Regards,

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Michael Janssen-Gibson                 e-mail: mig@isd.canberra.edu.au
ISD, Library                   phone/voice mail: +61 6 (06)  201 5271
University of Canberra
PO Box 1 Belconnen, ACT 2616





From: Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:29:30 -0700
Subject: Re: ordering directly from Japan

>Does anyone out there order directly from a particular Japanese bookstore
>or supplier? I already know about Gallery Origami House and their
>publications. I was seeking a more generalised outlet.
>

I have had lots of sucess ordering from TRC, a library supplier within
Japan. Last time I looked, this was the only direct retail source I found
for Japanese titles. To order books from them you have to set up an account
by sending credit card information via FAX. Then whenever you are
interested in a title you simply email "sales@trc.co.jp" and request the
book giving your account password. (I have found it is best to be armed
with the ISBN number, but they will try to identify a book from your
English translation and the author.)

After TRC receives the request, if it isn't a book they have in stock, they
try to get it from the publisher. Even then, usually I hear that the books
are ready to ship within a few days.

They do ship worldwide. The charge is the actual shipping fee. Your choice
of method.

Anyway, here is the contact info:

///TRC ONLINE BOOKSTORE
E-mail:sales@trc.co.jp
PHONE:+81-3-3943-3509
FAX:+81-3-3943-9501

And information on how to order is available on this web page:

http://www.trc.co.jp/trc-eng/order/order.htm

(I've noticed that the store's English web pages have been somewhat
scrambled lately. In theory, they have pages for "new books of the day" and
"new books of the week." If you watch sometimes you do see the odd origami
title.)

I should note here that you can't get Sojusha/Origami House titles through
TRC. TRC tried for me once long ago, but Origami House will not sell to
other booksellers in Japan. (Makes sense if you keep in mind that Origami
House is a museum and these are museum publications.)

Now all you have to do is watch the current exchange rates :->...

pat slider.
slider@stonecutter.com





From: Jeffrey Yen <orangex3@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:55:22 -0800
Subject: Re: Anime Origami

I have tried to make a totoro myriads of times.  Most of them are just
outlines and are somewhat representative of a Totoro.  I have almost
made one successful one with the eyes, ears, nose, the white tummy,
two hands, and somewhat of a tail.  I have no idea where it is now.
If anyone has successfully made an origami Totoro, then I would
greatly appreciate to at least see a picture of it.

---Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK> wrote:
>
> I am currently trying to design some original anime based origami
models. I am
> very keen to make something from a Miyazaki film. So far all I've
managed to design
> is Gigi (or is it Jiji?) the cat from Kiki's delivery service. The
diagrams are in Visio 4.0
> format and I would appreciate it if someone would proof read them
for any errors or
> improvements. I would love to do a Tottorro but I while it is easy
to come up with the
> right outline shape, getting the markings and expression right have
so far escaped me.
>
> I am also working on a 3 part Gundam F91 robot.
>

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From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:02:23 -0200
Subject: Re: Address wanted

Imtiaz,
I believe you mean *Yoshihisa* Kimura and Seiji *Nishikawa* (BTW,
"Seiji" is only what we'd call a first name, not a family name).
Sorry, I don't have their addresses, but I'm quite sure they
are members of O.Tanteidan. Did you check its (new) homepage?

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:44:11 +0000
Subject: Anime Origami

I am currently trying to design some original anime based origami models. I am
very keen to make something from a Miyazaki film. So far all I've managed to
     design
is Gigi (or is it Jiji?) the cat from Kiki's delivery service. The diagrams are
     in Visio 4.0
format and I would appreciate it if someone would proof read them for any
     errors or
improvements. I would love to do a Tottorro but I while it is easy to come up
     with the
right outline shape, getting the markings and expression right have so far
     escaped me.

I am also working on a 3 part Gundam F91 robot.





From: Richard Kennedy <r.a.kennedy@BHAM.AC.UK>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:20:27 +0000
Subject: Re: heart kusudama or heart modulars?

>      I am trying to do something unusual for Valentine's Day.  I was
> trying to do something that would be modular but in keeping with the

Have you seen any of the books by Francis Ow? The second one (which was
published by Japan Publications as 'Origami Hearts') contains a number
of modular hearts. Some others can be found in the collection assembled
by David Petty ('Hearts 3D', used to be available from BOS supplies).

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <Mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:48:43 -0500
Subject: Origami Sighting

In the Home News Tribune yesterday (2/1/99) the subject of the Wonderword
puzzle by David Ouellete was origami.  All the words to be found in the
puzzle related to origami, and the solution was also an origami related
word.

Janet Hamilton

mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj





From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:36:00 +0800
Subject: anime origami

While the bidding's in, I wondered if others had come across any models for
the Pokemon (Pocket Monsters) of Game Boy fame - I was pondering this after
my daughter was presented with a myriad of Pokemon stuff when she left her
Japanese school (in Perth) last week, including Pokemon origami paper.  I
never quite know what to do with this kind of patterned paper, apart from
boxes and kusudama type stuff.  Maybe I'll challenge her to fold a
"pikachuu" mouse.  For the real manga fans, her name is Aska or Asuka, now a
Eurasian super heroin in a cult Japanese manga!  Pure coincidence.  (Asuka
is the name of Japan's most ancient capital ,near Nara, and a fantastic
place to visit if you have the chance).

Additionally, I am still looking for any Perth (Western Australian) folders
as I really intend to set up a group when it cools down a bit.

Clare





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:37:04 -0800
Subject: ... Playing Origami with the truth ...

Clever phrase -- literally folding the truth. Synonomous with twisting
the truth or distorting the truth or embroidering the truth. Also --
presenting the truth in a folded (distorted) form.

--
Martin R. Carbone
1227 De La Vina St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 Fax: 805-965-2414

WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<or>>
http://www.modelshops.com <<or>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:40:00 -0500
Subject: Another Flowery Heart

Francis Ow's "Origami Hearts" (the version from Japan Publications), also has
a Flowery Heart model in it, but it is made from a 1x4 strip, and is less like
the $bill version, however, the final result looks very similar.  The 1x4
strip means that there is more paper to form the heart, so the "flowery" part
is smaller.  Its a different effect, but similar look.

-D'gou





From: Boseditor@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:26:42 -0500 (
Subject: Origami sighting

Tom Holt is an English author of comic fantasy books with a very creative
approach to language.

Here's the quote. Its from page 122 of 'Wish you were here' which is his
latest offering (I think!)

<<He checked himself; his instincts suggested this was no time for playing
origami with the truth.>>

Any offers to define the word origami as used here? The speaker is a lawyer,
if that helps at all.

Dave Mitchell





From: Meristein@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:19:27 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Origami sighting

In a message dated 2/3/99 10:28:28 AM, you wrote:

<<The speaker is a lawyer,if that helps at all.>>

Oh, well, then, that explains everything. How can you tell when a lawyer is
lying? His lips are moving.

The writer obviously has experience with paper folding and its potential
intricacies, its ability to twist and fold around itself, much like words when
played with.

My gramatically heartfelt apologies for ending a sentence a preposition with.

Merida(a paralegal, by the way)





From: Katherine Nelson <revkat@EARTHLING.NET>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:24:27 -0800
Subject: Re: Web page update

My first comment on the site is that the address needs two slashes after
the http:// ... like so:

http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/index.html.en

above should be a "clickable" link now for mail readers so enabled.

I haven't actually read through the site, but if I have any proofreading
suggestions, I'll send them to you directly, not through this list.

About diagramming complex modulars, can you break down the model into
logical parts?  You could then diagram the assembly of the parts into
larger modules and then show how they interconnect.

Happy to see another origami web site!

Katherine

----------
> From: Krystyna i Wojciech Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Web page update
> Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 12:26 PM
>
> I have translated first part of our origami gallery.
> You can visit it at
> http:/www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/index.html.en
> (note the .en at the end of address).
>
> I appreciate all comments including bad wording
> - unfortunatelly English is not my strongest point.
>
> BTW: Has anybody idea how to diagram assembly of complex modular
> models (containing more than 100 modules).
>
> Wojtek





From: Katherine Nelson <revkat@EARTHLING.NET>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:37:05 -0800
Subject: Re: Web page update

My second comment on this site (now that I've looked) is that the galleries
are absolutely gorgeous.  I love large geometric modulars.  Your paper
choices make the models much more beautiful than I've ever seen them
before.

Bravo, Wojtek!

Katherine

----------
> From: Krystyna i Wojciech Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Web page update
> Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 12:26 PM
>
> I have translated first part of our origami gallery.
> You can visit it at
> http:/www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/index.html.en
> (note the .en at the end of address).
>
> I appreciate all comments including bad wording
> - unfortunatelly English is not my strongest point.
>
> BTW: Has anybody idea how to diagram assembly of complex modular
> models (containing more than 100 modules).
>
> Wojtek





From: Krystyna i Wojciech Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:29:32 +0100
Subject: Web page update

Oops - I have missed one character in page address

I have translated first part of our origami gallery.
You can visit it at
http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/index.html.en
(note the .en at the end of address).

I appreciate all comments including bad wording
- unfortunatelly English is not my strongest point.

BTW: Has anybody idea how to diagram assembly of complex modular
models (containing more than 100 modules).

Wojtek





From: Aapo Kurko <aapo.kurko@MBNET.FI>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 09:18:00 +0200
Subject: Re: Web page update

> BTW: Has anybody idea how to diagram assembly of complex modular models
> (containing more than 100 modules).
I think that it should work if you diagram them a little bit like some kind of
childrens building-block manual, for example Lego or something like that...





From: Michael Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:05:40 +1100
Subject: Re: ordering directly from Japan

Thanks very much for the information Pat (and thankyou too to those that
replied privately).

>I should note here that you can't get Sojusha/Origami House titles
>through
>TRC. TRC tried for me once long ago, but Origami House will not sell to
>other booksellers in Japan. (Makes sense if you keep in mind that Origami
>House is a museum and these are museum publications.)

So Origami House actually also sell such titles as "Lively Origami" (or
"Compilation of Masterworks") by Akira Yoshizawa? I have not seen this
book advertised on their site, though of course there are all those
inactive links on the Gallery web-page.

So is anyone travelling to Japan soon ;}?

Regards,
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Michael Janssen-Gibson                 e-mail: mig@isd.canberra.edu.au
ISD, Library                   phone/voice mail: +61 6 (06)  201 5271
University of Canberra
PO Box 1 Belconnen, ACT 2616





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:47:19 -0700
Subject: Re: Web page update

Katherine Nelson wrote:
>
> My first comment on the site is that the address needs two slashes after
> the http:// ... like so:
>
> http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/index.html.en
>
> above should be a "clickable" link now for mail readers so enabled.
>

When I try and click on this I get a window to save 'index.html.exe' on
my hard disk, and the browser window remains blank whether I click 'OK'
or 'Cancel'.   Anyone else get this, or know how to fix it?

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:53:35 -0700
Subject: Re: ordering directly from Japan

Michael Janssen-Gibson wrote Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:05:40:

>So Origami House actually also sell such titles as "Lively Origami" (or
>"Compilation of Masterworks") by Akira Yoshizawa? I have not seen this
>book advertised on their site, though of course there are all those
>inactive links on the Gallery web-page.

Well, that one is not an Origami House publication so you could ask TRC for
it. I did originally try to get "Masterworks" through them, but the
publisher told TRC it was out-of-stock, but as that doesn't necessarily
mean "out-of-print." They might have it now.

If you are planning to buy a large number of origami titles over the next
year, you might look at Sasuga's book club program. With the discounts
sometimes it works out to what it would cost to buy the book directly. I
believe the shipping to book club members overseas is a flat $3.50.
Somewhat crazy though to think of a book traveling from Japan to Boston and
then back to Australia.

Something to watch -- Kinokuniya now has an online bookstore:

http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/

But they don't really support non-Japanese readers yet. But maybe those
Japanese browser users out there can get books this way.

I did notice in their company pages that they do have a store in Sydney.
Why not call them? I have a vague memory of hearing that Kinokuniya always
based their prices on the current exchange rate. The Kinokuniya in SF will
mail books so I expect the Sydney one would. Might be cheaper than ordering
from Japan if they have what you want.

Here is the big list of all of the Kinokuniya overseas stores with contact
info:

http://www.kinokuniya.co.jp/english/html/network2.html

Hope this helps,

pat slider.





From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 20:46:12 -0800 (
Subject: Re: Web page update

>> When I try and click on this I get a window to save 'index.html.exe'
on
>> my hard disk, and the browser window remains blank whether I click
'OK'
>> or 'Cancel'.   Anyone else get this, or know how to fix it?
>>
>
>I got the same thing but I got to the site by cutting the address and
pasting
>it into netscape, then deleting the part ".en".  There is a button for
english
>but when I click it I get the same save box.  Any help would be
appreciated
>cuz it looks like a great site, but I can't read it :)
>
>Maureen Evans

    The same thing happened to me, but I think I know what that problem
is.  The owner of the site tried to upload the English version of the
page to the same address but with the ".en" suffix.  I think it is
"illegal" to have anything after the ".html" or ".htm".  Uploading a
page to an address like this would cause your browser to do weird
things...  In this case, try to save the file.  The best (and I think
only) answer is to upload the page changing the address before the
".html"
    Hope I'm not totally off, but That seemed to me to be the most
logical reason nobody can access the page.  Sorry if I'm wrong.

Dolphin

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From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@TESSELLATION.COM>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:15:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Web page update

>My first comment on the site is that the address needs two slashes after
>the http:// ... like so:
>
>http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/index.html.en
>
>above should be a "clickable" link now for mail readers so enabled.

Loading this URL led to Netscape Navigator loading a plug-in, I think for
RealPlayer (sound files?). But no text.

Loading the URL without the ".en" suffix crashed Navigator (2.0).

Did this happen to anyone else?

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From: Maureen Evans <kanga@ESCAPE.CA>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:37:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Web page update

Kim Best wrote:

> Katherine Nelson wrote:
> >
> > My first comment on the site is that the address needs two slashes after
> > the http:// ... like so:
> >
> > http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/index.html.en
> >
> > above should be a "clickable" link now for mail readers so enabled.
> >
>
> When I try and click on this I get a window to save 'index.html.exe' on
> my hard disk, and the browser window remains blank whether I click 'OK'
> or 'Cancel'.   Anyone else get this, or know how to fix it?
>

I got the same thing but I got to the site by cutting the address and pasting
it into netscape, then deleting the part ".en".  There is a button for english
but when I click it I get the same save box.  Any help would be appreciated
cuz it looks like a great site, but I can't read it :)

Maureen Evans





From: Marcia Mau <maumoy@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 03:37:48 -0800 (
Subject: Capital Folders Origami Meetings Washington, DC

Capital Folders Origami, Washington DC will meet on the Second Tuesday
of each month through June 1999.  Our meetings are scheduled from 6:30
to 8:45PM.  If you would like to join us for dinner before the meeting
in a nearby restaurant, please contact Steve Buck at folder@dc.net no
later than the day before the meeting.

Meeting dates are: Feb 9, Mar 9, Apr 13, May 11, and June 8.

We meet at the Tenley-Friendship Library, Wisconsin Ave & Albemarle St,
NW, Tenleytown-AU Station on the Red Line in the direction of Shady
Grove.  We meet on the second floor in the Children's Library.

Street parking is available.

Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA

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From: Thies de Waard <twaard@C.ECUA.NET.EC>
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:42:37 -0500
Subject: Sea-snail shell: help!

Hi,

A few days ago I received Origami for the Connoiseur, and have
folded a numer of models of it since. I'm trying that spectacularly
beautifull sea-snail shell by Toshikazu Kawasaki (Ecuador is on
strike today, so I have a holiday!), but am heaving trouble in step
20, where the frog-base has to be unfolded, and a number of circles
has to be sunk and raised. Does anyone have any tips how to do
that?. The mayor problem is that I have only two hands....

Thanks,

Thies
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From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:56:36 -0800 (
Subject: Re: Sea-snail shell: help!

>Hi,
>
>A few days ago I received Origami for the Connoiseur, and have
>folded a numer of models of it since. I'm trying that spectacularly
>beautifull sea-snail shell by Toshikazu Kawasaki (Ecuador is on
>strike today, so I have a holiday!), but am heaving trouble in step
>20, where the frog-base has to be unfolded, and a number of circles
>has to be sunk and raised. Does anyone have any tips how to do
>that?. The mayor problem is that I have only two hands....
>
>Thanks,
>
>Thies

This isn't too difficult once you get the hang of it.  I like to tackle
each sink idividualy. First, make all the creases of the frog base
sharp;  you're going to be unfolding th entire model several times.
Here's the way I do the rest:

1) Do step 19, then u nfold the entire model.
2)  Mountain fold all around the paper where the widest "down" sink
starts.  Don't collapse it, just fold every side separately.
3)  Valley fold all parts of the "up" sink.
4)  Collapse the model so that the long point on top is sunken in and
out.  Crease hard, then unfold everything.
5)  Repeat this procedure for the other pleated sink, then just sink the
top town using the same method.

Hope this helps!
 Dolphin

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