




From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 06:30:56 -1000
Subject: Tanteidan contest website

Hi.  Does anyone remember the website that Tanteidan put up announcing
the contest to struggling new origami creators?  It was up last year and
I think Jeremy Shaffer was the winner last year.  He was given a free
trip to Japan to attend the Tanteidan convention.  I was trying to
locate it but the Tanteidan website I connected to did not mention the
contest at all.  Aloha, Jan
--
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From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:54:25 -1000
Subject: Re: Origami is pure art?

Actually, would it be helpful if we start defining "crafts"?  It seems
there is a lot of agreement that origami is an art as opposed to not an
art but the distinction made was it is an art or is it "simply" a craft?

Aloha, Jan





From: Robert Lang <robjlang@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:59:28 -0800 (
Subject: The Real Deal

Hidey-Ho!

It's your friendly neighborhood Robert Lang impersonator.  If you've
enjoyed this presentation of "nearly true" theatre, then you may also
appreciate "Origami-Unleashed", a mailing list dedicated to "origami
culture"  Although postings have been mighty slim as of late, perhaps an
infusion of new ideas is just what we need!

To join the list, go to: http://www.egroups.com/list/origami-unleashed/

Bobby

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>
>Hi.  Does anyone remember the website that Tanteidan put up announcing
>the contest to struggling new origami creators?  It was up last year
and
>I think Jeremy Shaffer was the winner last year.  He was given a free
>trip to Japan to attend the Tanteidan convention.  I was trying to
>locate it but the Tanteidan website I connected to did not mention the
>contest at all.  Aloha, Jan
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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:57:02 -0800
Subject: Policing the List (was Re: Origami Soap)

At 16:54 99/01/25 -0200, Carlos Alberto Furuti wrote:
>It's up for Joseph replying about technical/administrative
>aspects. Maybe a *STRONG* recommendation (again) for clear subject
>lines and use of the "NO" (non-origami) mark would be simpler
>and just as effective.

Nope. I'm only here to make sure things work technically. I'm not about to
police this list, and I think that previous consensus was that this list
should not be policed by anyone. People are free to say what they like.
Other people are free to object to previous messages. Any recommendations
are just that: recommendations.

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From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:15:59 -0600
Subject: Re: Flat (Fat?) Fish

Are there published diagrams for this Infamous unknown ant ?

And also this refers to Lord Brill I supposed ?

B R E T T

-----Original Message-----
From:   Nick Robinson [mailto:nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK]
Sent:   Friday, January 22, 1999 1:32 AM
To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        Re: Flat (Fat?) Fish

One of his best unknown works is an ant, complete with legs, antennae
etc. It's absolutely Brilliant.

all the best,

Nick Robinson





From: Joyce Saler <ladyada@TIAC.NET>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:08:41 -0400
Subject: Re: The "Real" Michael Stand Up!

Joseph
You seem to always seem to know best. It just sounded like Michael being
very tongue in cheek.

I actually think getting caught up in a hoax is almost as amusing as the
hoax itself.

Joyce





From: Anne R LaVin <lavin@MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:33:12 -0500 (
Subject: My two cents on list etiquette

Dear fellow list members,

Though I realize that my own personal metaphor for the nature of the
list isn't necessarily everyone's, I have found it highly useful, and
thought I might bring it up (again.)

Basically it's this: imagine that we're all together in a room and
we've got a microphone set up in the center.  Now, granted, it's a
pretty special mike - it lets anyone who wants to do so talk at any
time, and we all get to hear everything - but really all the readers
of the list read the messages *one at a time*, so from the
participants' view it's pretty linear.

And as of a few minutes ago, there were 633 subscribers to the list.
These list members come from all over the globe, speak a variety of
languages, and come from quite a wide variety of cultural backgrounds.
But they all want to talk about "origami" - whatever its definition.  :)

(Not unlike a convention, don't you think?)

So, would you, in that context, stand up, walk over to the mike and
say "Oh, me, too!" to something someone said yesterday, and then sit
down?  Proclaim yourself to be another folder and make odd jokes about
them?  (Ok, maybe once.  But repeatedly?)  Talk about something that
had nothing to do with folding, paper or art?  Probably not.  Fear of
public speaking, of embarassing yourself or boring or irritating other
people usually stops us.  The glorious thing about email is that it
can take away some of the fear of public speaking, and folks who'd
never stand up at a convention and talk will chime in on the list.
But at the same time, I think people can forget that they're still
talking to all 633 of us, and the potential for boring and irritating
the group, or simply making yourself look foolish, is still quite
real.

This doesn't mean that I think only long, carefully crafted messages
are appropriate for the list; or that spirited discussions,
disagreements, jokes, or whatever don't have their place too.  But
your post should *mean something* to a decent fraction of your fellow
list members.  Remember, above all, the reason we all showed up here is
to talk about origami!  And it would be quite a coup if the origami
list managed to stay a civilized and considerate place, rather than
devolving into what the rest of the net is like...

I'll step off my soapbox now.  Thanks for listening!

Anne R. LaVin                       "Say, Pooh, why aren't YOU busy?" I said.
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From: - Alex - <phalex97@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:34:24 -0800 (
Subject: Re: lions tigers and bears

There's a cute diagram for a tiger in the book
"Origami from Angelfish to Zen"
by Peter Engel. Oh, and by the way, how do I unsubscribe from this
origami newsgroupy thing? I seem to have thrown away the initial letter
that tells you how to unsubscribe...
Please help me...I am inundated in e-mail.

        -Alex

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From: "Dolphin G." <dolphing@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:38:15 -0800 (
Subject: Re: lions tigers and bears

>Does nobody have a tiger diagram?

Peter Engel also has a cute (?) tiger in "Origami from Angelfish to
Zen".

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From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:23:01 -0600
Subject: lions tigers and bears

Does nobody have a tiger diagram?





From: Katherine Nelson <revkat@EARTHLING.NET>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:40:01 -0800
Subject: Exploding origami

Does anyone have experience folding flash paper?  I will be attending
Burning Man this year and I want to make a personal contribution to the
flaming art scene there.  I was thinking of stringing balloons/waterbombs,
Kimberly's Crystals, and maybe cranes made from flash paper.

I get the impression that flash paper must be kept wet until you have it
safely where you want it to ignite.  I've never wet-folded before.  Do
inflatable models lend themselves to wet-folding?  Somehow, I'd expect any
paper to be too weak to inflate while wet without tearing, and too brittle
to puff up after being kept soggy for a long time (& drying in the desert
heat).

If that won't be feasible, I'll just string regular paper on flash
string... or regular paper on regular string.

So, I'm wondering:
~~~Can flash paper folding be done safely? (Suggestions on transportation &
storage of volatile origami most welcome!)
~~~Does anyone know of any papers (kami?) that burn in greens, blues, or
other unusual colors?
~~~Any inflatable stringable models to add?
~~~Any ideas on executing a delicate burning art installation in the
unpredictable wind of the Nevada desert?
~~~And most importantly, will it be art? [uh.. that last one was a joke]

Sincere thanks to all with any help to offer,

Katherine

Ps. If anyone on this list plans to be there, wanna get together & make
something to show off?





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:40:45 +0100
Subject: Re: Dirty Laundry

Michael,
At 09.45 25/1/1999 EST, you wrote:

>Throughout the years, people have complimented me on the realistic lifelike
>quality of my animals.  I must now tell you all the truth.  My models are not
>origami at all.

<:-O !!!!! Another public confession......

Isn't that the Jubilee Year is approaching, and someone thinks of gaining
indulgences for his personal Heaven ??? ;)

Roberto

(OK, OK..... I HAVE seen that extra L !!! ;)





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:44:33 +0100
Subject: Re: ??? Was:(Re: Dirty Laundry)

Peter (or Tube ???),
At 19.11 25/1/1999 +0100, you wrote:

>I have a very strong feeling that this is NOT Michael La Fosse!

It's NOT your feeling..... he has never claimed that ! He has clearly
signed "La FLOSSE !!!"

>Peter "who's glad not to be too famous enough for being chosen as a subject
>of this kind of e-game" Budai

Wait, wait....... not your turn yet !!! ;-)

Roberto





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:48:40 +0100
Subject: Re: The "Real" Michael Stand Up!

Joseph,
At 10.57 25/1/1999 -0800, you wrote:
>At 13:50 99/01/25 -0400, Joyce Saler wrote:

>>That was, indeed, Michael being his delightful, humorous self. We sometimes
>>overlook how charming our best artists are.
>
>And how can you be sure, Joyce?

Joyce ?????
The REAL Joyce ????

Are YOU sure ?

(And so son, and so on.....)

Roberto





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:11:27 -0800
Subject: Re: Exploding origami

At 20:40 1999-01-25 -0800, you wrote:
>~~~Does anyone know of any papers (kami?) that burn in greens, blues, or
>other unusual colors?

Any paper can be made to burn in different colours. Soak the paper in a salt
solution and let it dry. When ignited, it will burn in a different colour.
Different salts will produce different effects, but I can't remember which salt
does what. I believe that regular salt (sodium chloride) makes paper burn
green, but don't quote me on that.

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From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:13:19 -0800
Subject: Re: (no subject)

At 22:53 1999-01-25 -0500, you wrote:
>LaFlosse here;
>
>Just thought I'd take some time out from dipping cute little varmints in
>preservative to add my quick response to the post regarding an "open mike"---
>
>I can't imagine that anyone would sit and tolerate the repetitive discussions
>that cycle through the list in an "open mike" session for more than ten
>minutes.

So why do you bother sticking around? No one is forcing you to be here. No one
is forcing you to leave, either, but I just don't understand people who hang
around a place or situation just so they can complain about it.

>And jus for the record, those few who know the "real me" will vouch
>for that fact that if I would DEFINITELY impersonate ANYBODY in public, as
>well as in private, although I would probably be more inclined to violate
>decency statutes in public than I would online, where the lines are more
>ambiguous.

So... how is it possible to know the "real you", then? ;)
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From: Pancho <jperezanda@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:26:44 -0800
Subject: Re: Hands

At 12:19 PM 23-01-99 -0800, Joseph Wu wrote:

>.........
>"Xuxa" is a perfectly valid Portuguese name. There's a famous Brazillian
>entertainer by that name, for example. I would assume, given the similarities
>between the Portuguese and Spanish languages that "Xuxa" would also be a
valid
>Spanish name.

Hi,

Xuxa is not a valid Spanish name.

I don't think that it is a Portuguese name either, but a nickname, as it
happens with the famous "Xuxa".

There are similarities between Spanish and Portuguese, but it's hard to
understand the other language if you are not used to. The similarities
might be the same than between English and German. :)

Best Regards,
Pancho. (not a Spanish name either, but a nickname)





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:30:13 -0600
Subject: Re: Policing the List (was Re: Origami Soap)

Joseph Wu wrote:

Nope. I'm only here to make sure things work technically. I'm not about to
police this list, and I think that previous consensus was that this list
should not be policed by anyone. People are free to say what they like.  Other
people are free to object to previous messages. Any recommendations are just
that: recommendations.

Bravo ! Joseph! Bravo!

Perry

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From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:41:08 -0500
Subject: Re: lions tigers and bears

+Does nobody have a tiger diagram?

There is a tiger in John Montroll's book "Origami Inside Out"
Issei Yoshino has a tiger that has appeared in various places, including his
book "Super Complex Origami" - and also in one of the OUSA Annual Collections
(I think, my web browser isn't working, so I can't check the OUSA model index
myself.  http://www.origami-usa.org/ is the starting point).

-D'gou





From: Saliers <msaliers@HOME.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:06:01 -0800
Subject: Re: Exploding origami

>Any paper can be made to burn in different colours. Soak the paper in a salt
>solution and let it dry. When ignited, it will burn in a different colour.
>Different salts will produce different effects, but I can't remember which
>salt does what. I believe that regular salt (sodium chloride) makes paper
>burn green, but don't quote me on that.

Sodium is yellow (like the infamous Sodium lamps). For green, I believe you
need something with copper in it (maybe copper sulfate).

Actually, it might be worth checking the various web search engines for
"magic" or "magicians".  Magicians would probably be the leading authority
on this topic.  They might have some important safety tips.

Hey! Now we can add "burning" to our list of questionable origami practices
(gluing, painting, cutting, spindling, etc.)  I can see it now:  "Ok, I'm
going to fold a candle.  But first, does anyone have a match?"

At least it would solve the problem of what to do with the models once
you've folded them.

Mark





From: Michael LaFlosse <MLaFlosse@AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:53:14 -0500 (
Subject: (no subject)

LaFlosse here;

Just thought I'd take some time out from dipping cute little varmints in
preservative to add my quick response to the post regarding an "open mike"---

I can't imagine that anyone would sit and tolerate the repetitive discussions
that cycle through the list in an "open mike" session for more than ten
minutes.  And jus for the record, those few who know the "real me" will vouch
for that fact that if I would DEFINITELY impersonate ANYBODY in public, as
well as in private, although I would probably be more inclined to violate
decency statutes in public than I would online, where the lines are more
ambiguous.

Thank you,

Michael G. LaFlosse,
OrigamiToe Studios

.. and be sure to by my video on "handmade paper" where the paper is literally
made from hands.





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:06:13 -0800
Subject: Re: lions tigers and bears

In response to a call for tiger models for The Year of the Tiger,
Joseph Wu submitted this to the list on January 14, 1998:

Tiger by Kunihiko Kasahara
Creative Origami by Kunihiko Kasahara page 83
Intermediate. Requires a second piece of paper for the hind legs.

Tiger by Peter Engel
Folding the Universe by Peter Engel page 232
High intermediate.

Tiger by Akira Yoshizawa
Origami Museum I: Animals by Akira Yoshizawa page 63
Low intermediate. Two pieces of paper, I think.

Tiger by Isao Honda
World Of Origami by Isao Honda page 134
Don't remember.

Tiger by John Montroll
Origami Inside-Out by John Montroll page 70
Complex. With colour-change stripes.

Tiger by Seiji Nishikawa
El Mundo Nuevo by Kunihiko Kasahara page 148
Complex. Detailed face. I have a photo on my website (in the galleries
section).

Tiger by Kunihiko Kasahara
Viva Origami by Kunihiko Kasahara page 84
This is an error. The model (and most of the book) is by MAEKAWA Jun.
High intermediate (very similar to Peter Engel's tiger.

Tiger by Peter Engel 1988 by C.A. WILK page 60
Haven't seen this one.

Tiger by John Montroll
Mythological Creatures And the Chinese Zodiac by John Montroll page 30
High intermediate.

Tiger by Issei Yoshino
1996 by Myer Gotz (ed) page 35
Complex. Extremely detailed face.
A couple of additions:

Tiger by NISHIKAWA Seiji (unpublished)
I mention this one because this is an intermediate model that looks like
a simple model...with the addition of colour-changed stripes.

Tiger by KOMATSU Hideo
Origami Tanteidan Newsletter volumes 44-46 Complex. Looks like
Nishikawa's model (from El Mundo Nuevo) with colour-changed stripes.
Also on my website.





From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:34:16 -0800 (
Subject: Marc Kirschenbaum's FLUFFY- oohs & aahs guaranteed!

Hi everyone

Folded Marc's Fluffy (teddy bear)yesterday. This superb model is
guaranteed to get loads of oohs and aah's and isn't that cute comments.
It is not easy and I am sure the diagrams are not quite right in one or
two places but it is well worth persevering.

I folded this with a particularly resilient wrapping paper that was dual
coloured tan and dark brown. The result is an instantly recognisable
teddy. The model is good enough to withstand the odd innacuracy by the
folder without affecting the end result.

Well done Marc.....when can we expect something similar?

Regards

Imtiaz Razvi

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From: Edith Kort <ekort@MCLS.ROCHESTER.LIB.NY.US>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:34:26 -0500
Subject: Re: lions tigers and bears

Doesn't Rojas have a tiger?

Also, doesn't the person who has the chinese year signs also have one?

I've enjoyed these discussions.  My children wonder why I laugh out loud
when I read my email.

--
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  Rochester, NY





From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:45:01 -0800 (
Subject: Swap Shop

I noticed that the BOS recently set up a an adverts section on their web
site which people use amongst other things to exchange diagrams.

What does everyone think of interested people on the list posting a list
of diagrams available for exchange ?

People wanting to exchange could then get in touch with each other to
make arrangements.

Excuse me if this has been suggested before.

Regards

Imtiaz Razvi

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From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:56:38 -0800 (
Subject: Origami Cranes in flight

Those who are proud of their origami cranes may interested in a displai
idea in Fantastic Folds .. a book by somebody called Stoker I think.

A number of cranes are folded with slight adjustments made to the angle
of haed, wings, legs etc.These are then mounted on a stand using
wire.(the wire is hidden between the folds ofthe back of the legs and
passes into the stand through tiny holes.

The whole display shows the crane passing through various phases in its
path to take off. Looks beatiful.

I might be upsetting the purists again though!( Hector Rojas )

Regards
Imtiaz Razvi

ps. The book also contains some excellent diagrams of a smiling sun and
moon.

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From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 01:44:58 -0600 (
Subject: Re: Marc Kirschenbaum's FLUFFY- oohs & aahs guaranteed!

>
> Hi everyone
>
> Folded Marc's Fluffy (teddy bear)yesterday. This superb model is

 did you get the eyes turned inside-out?  I am haveing trouble with that;
 the eyes are so increadably small that the paper rips when I try to do
 the reverse folds (or whatever they are called)

>
> Well done Marc.....when can we expect something similar?

  yes, I think it is a cute teddy bear!

>
>
> Regards
>
> Imtiaz Razvi





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:28:19 -0600 (
Subject: A new type of Joke

Warning : some of you will think that the following is real, but it's not.

> Warning : some of you will think that the following is a joke, but it's not.
>
> For years and years, ALL the flat models of animals where folded along the
> animal symetry.  In other words, the front and the back of the model were
> the same (see Montroll's animals).
>
> I wonder why no-one (as far as I know) have ever created a "single sided"
> animal.
> This animal would have only ONE front leg and ONE rear leg.
>
> This would be as if you take one flat origami model, and cut it in 2 along
> it's back.  Chances is that if you unfold the model, you would get either a
> triangle, either a 2 x 1 rectangle.
>
> I know it would be a strange looking animal.  But just consider the "waste"
> of half of the paper.
>
>     Just my 2 Euros of strange ideas.
>
>     JJ Caaaaaaaaaaasalongaaaaaaaaaaaa





From: Douglas Zander <dzander@SOLARIA.SOL.NET>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:24:44 -0600 (
Subject: anyone hear of typar paper?

I was just wondering if anyone has heard of typar paper.  is it the same
as tyvek paper?  is typar just a brand name of a tyvek paper?





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:58:46 -0500 (
Subject: Re: My two cents on list etiquette

In a message dated 99-01-25 18:35:22 EST, you write:

> Anne R. LaVin                       "Say, Pooh, why aren't YOU busy?" I
said.
>  lavin@mit.edu                           "Because it's a nice day," said
Pooh.
>  (617) 258-0985                                                  "Yes,
but---"
>  MIT Information Systems                               "Why ruin it?" he
said.
>
>

"Say, lurker, why aren't YOU posting?" I said.
  "Because it's a nice list," said the lurker.
                      "Yes, but---"
                       "Why ruin it?" s/he said.





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:16:52 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Exploding origami

In a message dated 99-01-25 23:38:28 EST, you,
revkat@EARTHLING.NET (Katherine Nelson), write:

> Burning Man this year and I want to make a personal contribution to the
>  flaming art scene there.  I was thinking of stringing balloons/waterbombs,
>  Kimberly's Crystals, and maybe cranes made from flash paper.
>
>  I get the impression that flash paper must be kept wet until you have it
>  safely where you want it to ignite.  I've never wet-folded before.  Do
>  inflatable models lend themselves to wet-folding?  Somehow, I'd expect any
>  paper to be too weak to inflate while wet without tearing, and too brittle
>  to puff up after being kept soggy for a long time (& drying in the desert
>  heat).
>
>  If that won't be feasible, I'll just string regular paper on flash
>  string... or regular paper on regular string.
>
>  So, I'm wondering:
>  ~~~Can flash paper folding be done safely? (Suggestions on transportation &
>  storage of volatile origami most welcome!)
>  ~~~Does anyone know of any papers (kami?) that burn in greens, blues, or
>  other unusual colors?
>  ~~~Any inflatable stringable models to add?
>  ~~~Any ideas on executing a delicate burning art installation in the
>  unpredictable wind of the Nevada desert?
>  ~~~And most importantly, will it be art? [uh.. that last one was a joke]
>
>

Aloha revkat@EARTHLING.NET (Katherine Nelson),

Never heard of keeping flashpaper wet.

If I remember right, flashpaper that magician's use,
is just tissue paper pre-soaked with a chemical,
so that when it is lit, say with a spark, or a cigarette tip,
it burns instantly, giving off a flash of light,
generating very little heat nd leaving behind no ash.

It's a nice pyrotechnic effect, but not appreciated in closed spaces
like restaurants, that worry about fire safety. Oh, and it might not be too
safe to ship undeclared. If there were an accident, you'd be in big trouble.

Check with a magic shop. I'm sure they have suppliers who can drop-ship
the stuff anywhere.

If you're making it from paper, you don't want to use the slick
calendared paper, because that slick coating is clay that won't burn.
I think you want to use tissue paper  rather than anything heavier,
to cut down on the heat generated. I think I was told that you could
hold it in the palm of your hand, and not get burned,
most of the heat would go up with the flame.

I once folded a Robert Neale's Dragon out of a square of dry flash
paper, so I can tell you it can and probably should be folded dry,
not wet-folded, because you don't want to wash out the accelerant
that makes it burn so nice and fast.

I don't remember the recipe, and couldn't tell you if I did,
secrecy and all that, but the paper is soaked in a water solution of
something, then dried.

If you get a working (test it before you make plans to use it) recipe,
you could experiment with the old trick of adding metallic salts to
the chemicals to change the color of the flame: sodium chloride ==
salt for yellow; copper sulfate (poisonous blue crystals) for green,
strontium chloride I think for red; and I forget what magnesium,
barium, and iron salts do. This is how the pinecones and newspaper
logs are treated when you want them to burn with colored flames.

Since the metal-based colored inks have been phased out because
of toxicity concerns, I suspect most colored paper isn't colored with
metallic salts, and would burn the same color as white paper. Still,
you could soak and dry your own, but you'll have to experiment. It's
my recent experience that a lot of origami paper and tissue paper
is not colorfast. *sigh*.

Also, the soak would probably stain the paper, and the resulting color
need not bear relation to the flame color.

Check your local library for books on pyrotechnics for details,
and watch out, the chemical solutions can be caustic and poisonous.

Ahhh, you're thinking of
    "executing a delicate burning art installation in the
     unpredictable wind of the Nevada desert?"
I don't think you understand. You're talking flashpaper.
It doesn't burn or go boom, it goes "FLASH!!!!" and is gone
in an instant. So the wind shouldn't matter, but the very
small timeframe would. Basically, if you blink, you miss it.
Not a very satisfying show.

Oops, wait a minute. Remember I mentioned holding it in
your hand and not getting burned? Now that I think about it,
you can <censored> the paper to slow down the burn rate,
and get the effect of holding a ball of fire for a time,
I'm not sure how many seconds.

As another alternative, I think, I remember something about
soaking paper in concentrated salt solution, to impregnate it,
so that when the dred paper was burned it would leave an ash
"skeleton" behind.

Also, there's the trick to burning sugar cubes, you need to
sprinkle them with a little bit of ashes, otherwise they just melt.

Maybe you could put "Serpent's Eggs" into your origami and
light them. Those are the things that burn and turn into a long
twisting length of ash.

Speaking of hollow and inflatable origami, there's:
     (1) Jack Skilman's "Jackstone";
     (2), (3) Patricia Crawford's Tetrahedron and her Stella Octangula
            from Robert Harbin's "Origami, a Step by Step Guide"
            which I hope has been reprinted since my copy is
            long-lost;
    (4) Octahedron from a waterbomb base II don't remember whose);
    (5) (Mr.) Bun McClain's "Baby Carriage";
    (6) Any number of boxes and modular balls;
    (7) The traditional Persimmon;
    (8) Rae Cooker's Strawberry;
     (9) the Kawasaki Rose;
   (10) The "gold brick" traditional Chinese funerary fold;
   (11) The five-sided star from a knot in a strip of paper,
                that I think was called "Pearl Drops" (?).

Does any of this help?

Aloha,
Kenneth Kawamura
kenny1414@aol.com





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:26:51 -0500 (
Subject: Re: A new type of Origami

In a message dated 99-01-26 04:17:56 EST, you write:

> For years and years, ALL the flat models of animals where folded along the
>  animal symetry.  In other words, the front and the back of the model were
>  the same (see Montroll's animals).

Actually, the left and right sides of the animal, usually, are mirror images
of each other.

>  I wonder why no-one (as far as I know) have ever created a "single sided"
>  animal.
>  This animal would have only ONE front leg and ONE rear leg.
>
>  This would be as if you take one flat origami model, and cut it in 2 along
>  it's back.  Chances is that if you unfold the model, you would get either a
>  triangle, either a 2 x 1 rectangle.

Some time ago, I laid two dollar bills side by side, turned under the extra
one senventh so they were 1x2's, making a square together, and
folded a Robert Neale's Dragon, just to see what would happen.
I arranged it so the wing flaps had the extra layers. Much to my surprise
when I had finished, and let go of it, it did not fall apart. After studying
it,
I discovered the legs were locking the quarters of the sq





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:44:41 -0500 (
Subject: Re: A new type of Origami

Oops, sorry folks, I fat-fingered the wrong keys and sent an incomplete
draft. Here's the whole thing, I hope.
-- kenny1414@aol.com (Kenneth Kawamura)

In a message dated 99-01-26 04:17:56 EST, you,
jj-casalonga@MAGIC.FR (Jean-Jerome CASALONGA), write:

> For years and years, ALL the flat models of animals where folded along the
>  animal symetry.  In other words, the front and the back of the model were
>  the same (see Montroll's animals).

Actually, the left and right sides of the animal, usually, are mirror images
of each other.

>  I wonder why no-one (as far as I know) have ever created a "single sided"
>  animal.
>  This animal would have only ONE front leg and ONE rear leg.
>
>  This would be as if you take one flat origami model, and cut it in 2 along
>  it's back.  Chances is that if you unfold the model, you would get either a
>  triangle, either a 2 x 1 rectangle.

Yes, that works. It's a way to derive dollar bill folds, too.

Some time ago, I laid two dollar bills side by side, turned under the extra
one seventh so they were 1x2's, making a square together, and
folded a Robert Neale's Dragon, just to see what would happen.
I arranged it so the wing flaps had the extra layers. Much to my surprise
when I had finished, and let go of it, it did not fall apart. After studying
it,
I discovered the legs were locking the quarters of the square together,
and I could not only fold a 'fake' Dollar Bill Dragon (it takes two bills,
one for each wing), but I could also fold a four-colored dragon from four
independent squares without needing adhesive, and I could add extra
'quarters' to get, for instance, a Five-Headed Chromatic Dragon.

After considering the situation, it occured to me that I could fold
dollar bill 'half-animals'. There were a few problems, since they're harder
to "lock" together, but I did a Montroll "Apatosaurus" (I think, used to be
Brontosaur), Rhodes' Elephant, Montroll Horse, etc., with varying
degrees of success.

I look for models where the model's spine is across the square,
and not diagonal, so the half-animal comes from a 1x2
rather than a triangle, because of the thickness of the paper.

Aloha,
Kenneth Kawamura
kenny1414@aol.com





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:36:20 -0800
Subject: exchanging diagrams

Following the posts related to exchanging diagrams. This can simply be
done by each interested party posting a message with the words "diagam
exchange" in the title. These can be answered immediately by a private
post if one desires. Or the archives can later be searched to find all
who are or were interested in exchanges.
The Origami archives are an amazing resource and can be used in many
ways. It would be an interesting project for someone to go through the
archives -- on a sampling basis and see if most messages can be
classified or categorized by some relatively small number (say 20) of
subject categories. These twenty Subject areas could then be used
(voluntarily) by posters. This would make searching much easier.

If the Subject Areas had a symbol(s) of some sort adjacent to them  --
say -- "~!",  when posted, that would distiguish them from text
containing the subject words and would make the archives even more
search friendly.

--
Martin R. Carbone
1227 De La Vina St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 Fax: 805-965-2414

WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<or>>
http://www.modelshops.com <<or>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Marcus Hanson <hecatomb@CARROLLSWEB.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:47:51 -0600
Subject: Re: Swap Shop

Imtiaz Razvi wrote:
> I noticed that the BOS recently set up a an adverts section on their web
> site which people use amongst other things to exchange diagrams.
> What does everyone think of interested people on the list posting a list
> of diagrams available for exchange ?
> People wanting to exchange could then get in touch with each other to
> make arrangements.

That is what I would like to see.
If I had the know how I would do it.
If anyone does have the know how of html and ftp
I would be happy to lend my artistic and computer graphics talents
to the cause.

P.S. just my luck.
origamist's are the only people on the web to respect copyright





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:23:27 +0000
Subject: Re: Swap Shop

Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM> sez

>I noticed that the BOS recently set up a an adverts section on their web
>site which people use amongst other things to exchange diagrams.

This wasn't what I had in mind, but seems a good idea, providing people
LET ME KNOW when they have what they want. I can then remove their ad.
If it gets too popular, I could add a special diagrams swap shop.

When we get back online, that is. I understand the cheque's in the post
;)

ps. I see master Budai is making an early bid for "most posted" in 1999.
Must try harder....

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: "Dr. Joel M. Hoffman" <joel@EXC.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:21:00 -0500 (
Subject: Exploding origami

>Hey! Now we can add "burning" to our list of questionable origami practices
>(gluing, painting, cutting, spindling, etc.)  I can see it now:  "Ok, I'm
>going to fold a candle.  But first, does anyone have a match?"

Actually, a working origami candle would be really cool.





From: Michael LaFosse <info@ORIGAMIDO.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:31:16 -0500
Subject: Re: The "Real" Michael Stand Up!

Joyce Saler wrote:

> Peter
> That was, indeed, Michael being his delightful, humorous self. We sometimes
> overlook how charming our best artists are.
>
> Joyce Saler

Joyce,

Sorry, it was not me, but thanks for your vote for my sense of humor.

Michael G. LaFosse
michael@origamido.com
and never from AOL





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <102354.2222@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:37:02 -0500
Subject: Exploding origami

Message text written by Origami List
>Actually, a working origami candle would be really cool.<

        Candle?!?  I'm waiting for the fully functional origami combustion
engine!  ;-D

 _,_
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--____-===( _\/ \\/ \-----_---__
 /\ ' ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

 Jerry D. Harris
 Fossil Preparation Lab
 New Mexico Museum of Natural History
 1801 Mountain Rd NW
 Albuquerque NM 87104-1375
 Phone: (505) 899-2809
 Fax: (505) 841-2866
 102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: Jean-Jerome CASALONGA <jj-casalonga@MAGIC.FR>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:17:25 +0100
Subject: A new type of Origami

Warning : some of you will think that the following is a joke, but it's not.

For years and years, ALL the flat models of animals where folded along the
animal symetry.  In other words, the front and the back of the model were
the same (see Montroll's animals).

I wonder why no-one (as far as I know) have ever created a "single sided"
animal.
This animal would have only ONE front leg and ONE rear leg.

This would be as if you take one flat origami model, and cut it in 2 along
it's back.  Chances is that if you unfold the model, you would get either a
triangle, either a 2 x 1 rectangle.

I know it would be a strange looking animal.  But just consider the "waste"
of half of the paper.

    Just my 2 Euros of strange ideas.

    JJ Caaaaaaaaaaasalongaaaaaaaaaaaa





From: Gerard Blais <gblais@NORTELNETWORKS.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:21:22 -0500
Subject: Origami-Montreal - next meeting

The next meeting of Origami-Montreal will be:

======================================================================
    Sunday, January 31, from 1 PM to 4 PM,
    at 6848 Christophe-Colomb, Montreal.
======================================================================

On the menu:
    - Discussions: local events, international events, new books,
           interesting news, etc.
    - Planification/Annoncement of the next meeting.
    - Folding workshop:
                HEARTS (in preparation for St-Valentine's day!),
                presented by Gerard Blais and Christele Brien.
 - Free folding, discussion, etc.

Origami material (i.e. paper) will be provided for those who need it.

See you Sunday!  Be there or be "square"! :-)

Gerard

+-----+ Origami-Montreal
|     | Phone & fax: (450) 448-2530 (Hideko Sinto)
|     | email: origami@francomedia.qc.ca (Hideko Sinto)
+-----+ web: http://www.ecn.ulaval.ca/~pgon/origami/origami.html





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:51:49 -0200
Subject: Re: Origami Cranes in flight

>>From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>

>>Those who are proud of their origami cranes may interested in a displai
>>idea in Fantastic Folds .. a book by somebody called Stoker I think.

Stoker & Willianson, actually

>>The whole display shows the crane passing through various phases in its
>>path to take off. Looks beatiful.
>>
>>I might be upsetting the purists again though!( Hector Rojas )
This book can irritate:
- zoological purists since the cranes's "knees" and "ankles" bend in
  the wrong direction
- authorship purists since the shark is almost certainly an uncredited
  rip-off of Kasahara's shark in Origami Omnibus (and the dolphin
  is just a variation on the shark)
- purism purists since both shark and dolphin have cuts, and the frog
  depends heavily on decoration

But the book does have beautiful photographs and superb production value,
despite feeling as a high-tech piece of advertising for the authors's
business.

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:20:28 -0500
Subject: My two cents on list etiquette

Well said, Anne!

Valerie Vann
(For those who haven't been on the origami mail list
for eons, Anne is one of the earliest members of the
list, and until the list moved to its current site,
was the nominal "owner of the list".





From: Saliers <msaliers@HOME.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:21:38 -0800
Subject: Re: Seamless Heart

At 01:42 PM 1/26/99 -0500, you wrote:
>In a discussion (off list) with a fellow list member, the topic of a heart
>model without a seam/edge on the front came up.  I started wondering if it
>were possible to have model, which starts from a square, that didn't have
such
>a seam.  I've been unable to image how to get the V at the top of the heart

David Petty in Francis Ow's "Origami Hearts" has a 3 dimensional heart
which (if I'm reading the picture/diagram right) doesn't have a seam on the
front.

Mark





From: Stephen Canon <Stephen_Canon@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:50:38 -0500
Subject: Re: anyone hear of typar paper?

Pretty much, yes...I think that it's slightly thicker.
But otherwise, they're more or less the same.

At 04-24 AM 26U01U99 -0600, you wrote:
>I was just wondering if anyone has heard of typar paper.  is it the same
>as tyvek paper?  is typar just a brand name of a tyvek paper?





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:42:23 -0500
Subject: Seamless Heart

In a discussion (off list) with a fellow list member, the topic of a heart
model without a seam/edge on the front came up.  I started wondering if it
were possible to have model, which starts from a square, that didn't have such
a seam.  I've been unable to image how to get the V at the top of the heart
without such a technique.  Then I got to wondering:  Can one prove that it is
possible, or prove that it is impossible?

Better yet, does anyone know of a publicly diagrammed heart model that doesn't
have a seam/edge running through the front of the heart?

-D'gou





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:00:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Re- lions tigers and bears - oh my!

Donna & Robin wrote:

> I like John Montroll's tiger from his inside out book.
> It turns out nicely with orange and yellow duo paper.

> I'm too lazy to make my own tissue foil laminate but I
> bet it would be even better that way.

There are two "tricks" about this model.  The back and tail can easily end up
showing a "gash" of color.  I haven't yet figured out a way to prevent this on
the back, the tail I think I just need to be more precise in my folding.

The other "trick" is folding the face.  Without landmarks (not inherently good
or bad, just the way its diagrammed), the face can end up looking very
different.  I have one Montroll Tiger sitting on my desk at work, and because
I goofed up the eyes, they are too widely set, it looks like a short zebra.
;-)

-D'gou





From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@WORLD.STD.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:00:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Exploding origami

Jeremy Shaeffer taught a class at PCOC, which I took, in which we
all lit the corner of a piece of paper on fire and proceeded to fold
a flapping bird out of it as it burned.  He had worked out a procedure
for putting in the folds very quickly, though not terribly accurately,
which we practiced a few times before lighting the paper.  We
actually used light card stock instead of paper, which he told us burned
more slowly.  At the last moment, one should be able to make the bird's
wings flap once or twice to fan the burning tail before dropping the
thing
onto the ground.

I like the idea of several people performing this ritual together, each
with
paper soaked in a different salt, so all the birds burn in different
colors.

        -- Jeannine Mosely





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:48:30 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Seamless Heart

Dear Doug,

There is a model by Gay Merril Gross in her hardcover book, "The Art of
Origami" which was published in 1993 and is probably already out of print.

The description of the models goes:  "This three-dimensional heart has an
interior cavity for a small photo or secret message.  It can be hung from a
decorative cord and worn as a locket, or it can be used as a decoration on a
gift.  Folded from a large sheet, it can be used to enclose a small gift."

The heart model is folded from a single square piece of paper and has no seams
down the front or back center area -- the seams are on the sides.  The
"dimple" at the top of the heart is formed by a type of sink in the paper.

June





From: Sy Chen <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:10:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Seamless Heart

This is one of the topics which really touch my HEART. I can't prove it
scientifically. From my understanding and several attempts the way to it is
3D approach:
1. Fold square to desired heart shape without V shaped notch in 2D.
2. Push the top edge down until the paper becomes convex shape. Heart
becomes 3D with V-like notch on the top.

I have used the similar technique to develop many of my heart-related
models. One of them is $ Valentine, which can be downloaded from my web
site. You may avoid the sharp fold along the center line by soft
bending/shaping. The other good example is Heart Locket by Gay Gross in her
book, 'The Art of Origami'. I have another example of mine, 'Pop-Up Love
Card', one of my favorite designs. Diagram is published in the OrigamiUSA
annual collection last year.  Heart itself is seamless and can be collapsed
into a flat greeting card. Many of my other examples are still unpublished.

How about 2D solution? I don't have... But the color changing (duo-color
origami) can help. I have developed many of them based on color changing -
1) Fold one corner of square to the center (or whatever inside the square).
The other side of color of that corner becomes V shape. You should be able
to figure it out for the remaining steps.

This approach is good to design embedded 2D heart model because of two tone
of colors are used. The inside of the heart is seamless as well. I had
displayed many of the designs in '97 OUSA convention. The only published
work is 'Hearts Unlimited', published in BARF Newsletter, Winter 1998. Not
all of them are seamless in this model but the technique/approach is the
same.

>From the bottom of my heart...

Sy Chen (sychen@erols.com)

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 1:43 PM
Subject: Seamless Heart

>In a discussion (off list) with a fellow list member, the topic of a heart
>model without a seam/edge on the front came up.  I started wondering if it
>were possible to have model, which starts from a square, that didn't have
such
>a seam.  I've been unable to image how to get the V at the top of the heart
>without such a technique.  Then I got to wondering:  Can one prove that it
is
>possible, or prove that it is impossible?
>
>Better yet, does anyone know of a publicly diagrammed heart model that
doesn't
>have a seam/edge running through the front of the heart?
>
>-D'gou





From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@WORLD.STD.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:14:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Seamless Heart

Doug Philips wrote:
>
> In a discussion (off list) with a fellow list member, the topic of a heart
> model without a seam/edge on the front came up.  I started wondering if it
> were possible to have model, which starts from a square, that didn't have such
> a seam.  I've been unable to image how to get the V at the top of the heart
> without such a technique.  Then I got to wondering:  Can one prove that it is
> possible, or prove that it is impossible?
>
> Better yet, does anyone know of a publicly diagrammed heart model that doesn't
> have a seam/edge running through the front of the heart?
>
> -D'gou

Here is a simple four fold heart that doesn't have a seam, but depends
on color
change (foreground/background) for effect.

Start with a red or pink square, colored side up, oriented like a
diamond.
Fold the top corner down to the center. Fold the right and left corners
behind,
about 1/4 of the way to the center.  You could stop here for a three
fold heart,
but the top lobes are kind of pointy, so we add a mountain fold,
parallel to the
top edge a short distance below it.  These are all judgement folds, so
play around
with it till you get them where you like them.  This one's great for
little kids.

But back to D'gou's question, it can be generalized to "Can you fold a
seamless,
non-convex shape from a convex piece of paper?"  I'm pretty sure the
answer is no,
but I don't have time to prove it now.  Basically, a straight crease can
only divide
convex regions into more convex regions.  Tom, Robert, any other
mathematicians out
there want to tackle it?

        -- Jeannine Mosely





From: Jeff DeHerdt <jadeherd@IUPUI.EDU>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:46:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Seamless Heart

        Now, I'm wondering if there is some origami joker out there who
has a model of an actual human heart(as opposed to the symbolic one.) It
doesn't have to be seamless, I'm just curious if anyone had tried.

                                Jeffrey DeHerdt





From: Sy Chen <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:57:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Seamless Heart

Are you talking about working one? Ask Wizard of Oz...

Sy Chen

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff DeHerdt <jadeherd@IUPUI.EDU>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Seamless Heart

>        Now, I'm wondering if there is some origami joker out there who
>has a model of an actual human heart(as opposed to the symbolic one.) It
>doesn't have to be seamless, I'm just curious if anyone had tried.
>
>                                Jeffrey DeHerdt





From: Terrence Rioux <trioux@WHOI.EDU>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:51:56 -0500
Subject: Seamless Heart

Charles Knuffke taught a heart model using a dollar bill and a quarter
at the SEOF convention last September.  It does have a seam in the
middle, but I thought I'd mention it anyway because it is a neat model.
I usually keep one in my wallet for use as a tip.  Charles has
diagrammed the model and posted it on the following web site (you'll
need Adbobe Acrobat to see it onscreen):

http://www.sirius.com/~knuffke/$Charm.pdf
--
Cheers,

Terry Rioux





From: Meristein@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:24:05 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Seamless Heart

Ask LaFlosse; he/she/it has probably torn one out of some poor unsuspecting
folder's chest by executing the Viking Eagle maneuver, and then claimed it as
the world's only folded seamless heart.

I really aorta be going now....

Merida





From: Meristein@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:25:16 -0500 (
Subject: Re: A new type of Origami

Yes, they're all named Eileen.

Merida





From: Richard Kennedy <r.a.kennedy@BHAM.AC.UK>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:50:01 +0000
Subject: Re: Exploding origami - burning paper

> Any paper can be made to burn in different colours. Soak the paper in a salt
> solution and let it dry. When ignited, it will burn in a different colour.
> Different salts will produce different effects, but I can't remember which
     salt
> does what. I believe that regular salt (sodium chloride) makes paper burn
> green, but don't quote me on that.

I would expect bright yellow - from electronically excited sodium atoms.
You might try copper or barium salts for green, but some of these salts
are TOXIC.

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





From: Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:43:59 +0000
Subject: Re- lions tigers and bears - oh my!

I like John Montroll's tiger from his inside out book.
It turns out nicely with orange and yellow duo paper.

I'm too lazy to make my own tissue foil laminate but I
bet it would be even better that way.





From: Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:51:27 +0000
Subject: Re: Marc Kirschenbaum's FLUFFY

The best way to fold the eyes is to unfold as much of the point as possible
     first,
the colour change flips into place nice and easy then. This sort of technique
     applies
to lots of models, perhaps we should invent an 'open out as much as possible
     before
attempting' symbol?





From: Mark and Theresa <mark@HOBBITON.FORCE9.NET>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:52:31 +0000
Subject: Re: Marc Kirschenbaum's FLUFFY- oohs & aahs guaranteed!

> Hi everyone
>
> Folded Marc's Fluffy (teddy bear)yesterday. This superb model is
> guaranteed to get loads of oohs and aah's and isn't that cute comments.
> It is not easy and I am sure the diagrams are not quite right in one or
> two places but it is well worth persevering.
>
> I folded this with a particularly resilient wrapping paper that was dual
> coloured tan and dark brown. The result is an instantly recognisable
> teddy. The model is good enough to withstand the odd innacuracy by the
> folder without affecting the end result.
>
> Well done Marc.....when can we expect something similar?
>
>
I folded this a while back at a UK con...no oohs and aaahs tho' Mine was
so bad i renamed it "thuggy"!
--
Mark





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:05:57 +0000
Subject: BOS site back online

The BOS site is now back on-line - thanks to all who enquired about it's
state of health ;)

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:43:23 +0100
Subject: Re: Origami Soap

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Carlos Alberto Furuti wrote:
> It's up for Joseph replying about technical/administrative
> aspects.

But Joseph is only the Hausmeister of this list! ;-) (And besides,
policing is not really a technical or administrative issue.)

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:47:45 +0100
Subject: Re: Exploding origami

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Saliers wrote:
> Sodium is yellow (like the infamous Sodium lamps). For green, I believe you
> need something with copper in it (maybe copper sulfate).

But you'd first have to find a kind of paper that burns with a colorless
flame, because the yellow Sodium flame tends to conceal all the other
flame colors. (Or so I've been told in chemistry.)

> I can see it now:  "Ok, I'm going to fold a candle.  But first, does
> anyone have a match?"

And this would also allow us to fold a realistic Ikarus! ;-)

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: =?iso-8859-1?B?VEhPUktJTEQgU9hOREVSR8VSRA==?= <thokiyenn@GET2NET.DK>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:25:07 +0100
Subject: Sv:      Steven Casey Where Are you

Steveb Casey
is in BOS Membership list 1998
address:
Mr. Steven Casey, 125 Hobart Road,
Mumunbeena 3163, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Tlf. 610395632667

He has folded the best Kangaroo I have ever seen..

Thok 99
