




From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:21:34 -0800 (
Subject: Animals, Birds & Insect Origami

For those of you interested in folding the above I would greatly
recommend getting hold of a copy of

Origami Animals by Hector Rojas.

Although I don't have the book now, I still have some of the his model
diagrams.
I would rate some of his animal and bird models as good as if not better
than Montroll's. His insects are equally stunning.In my view his insects
have as much good affect as some of Lang's models and are a lot easier
to fold.

The giraffe is one of the few I have seen that has both a long neck and
long legs. The Condor is another great model.

Regards

Imtiaz Razvi

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From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:33:21 -0800 (
Subject: Neil Elias Models

Is anyone interested in swapping some Elias models.

I have amongst others

Fisherman in a boat(one thin strip of paper) Simple but stunning

The Last Waltz- Romantic & beautiful from one sheet /two tone

Bull

Matador

Yehudi Menuhin

Andrea Seragovia

Looking for -:

Rodin

Rickshaw with Rickshaw wallah

or any other similar sorts of models

Regards

Imtiaz Razvi

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From: Michie Sahara <michies@WESTWORLD.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:37:14 -0800
Subject: Panda by Kasahara

The diagram of "Panda on panarama box" on page 15 of Origami Omnibus is in the
     Japanese book by K. Kasahara called "Kami to (&) Origami".  It is cuter
     than the Giant panda.  "Kami to Origami" is published by Shogakukan.  It
     is an excellent book with intro
 uction on how "washi" is made.  Mr. Kasahara gave the book to my mother when
     we visited him some years ago.  I don't know if it is still available.  I
     imagine it is.





From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:16:42 +0200
Subject: Re: Complex Models

On 11-Jan-99, Askinazi, Brett (brett@HAGERHINGE.COM) wrote:

>And for the Complex models/paper recommendation, look at the number
>of steps.  If the number of steps approaches or exceeds 100 don't
>start with anything less than a 10" square.

Come on, life is about overcoming obstacles.  My first attempt at
Fumiaki Kawahata's Pegasus in Origami Fantasy was with 15cm kami,
completed model being 5 cm long.

I will try one with foil when I have time - the small one raises more
wows than bigger ones I've folded.

To sidetrack a bit, how about "Top 5 hints for miniature folding"?

--
Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

Weyland-Yutani - Building Better Worlds





From: Barbra0336@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 02:06:47 -0500 (
Subject: Re: "Origami...Rokoan Style"

Hi Michie,
I received your book, Origami - Rokoan Style.  It is a lovely book, one I
enjoy trying to fold from and also just to look at it.
I took it to the West Coast Origami Guild on Saturday and several people were
interested in it.  I gave them your address and I hope they will purchase it.
Would you ever be interested in visiting the guild and sharing some of your
birds with us and tell us a little about this style of folding?
We are the West Coast Origami Guild and meet on the 2nd Saturday of each month
at the Cahuenga Library on Santa Monica Blvd.  It is a nice small group of
people and I believe everyone would enjoy seeing your work.
Thank you again for writing this book and  sending it to me  so promptly.
Sincerely, Barbara Ortiz





From: Sy Chen <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:08:42 -0500
Subject: Re: Book Announcement

Is it possible to list all of them with short description in this list?
Thanks.

Sy Chen

-----Original Message-----
From: Boseditor@AOL.COM <Boseditor@AOL.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 7:57 AM
Subject: Book Announcement

>This message is to let all the US members of the list know that
Paperfolding
>Puzzles is now available from Fascinating Folds. Check out Bren's website
if
>you're interested.
>
>(Of course, anyone outside the US can still get hold of a copy by
contacting
>me direct!)
>
>If you're a BOS member you'll already know a little about the book through
the
>mag. If you aren't ... or just want to know more ... read on.
>
>Basically I put the book together because of the enormous interest in the
>puzzles published in my Serendipity column in British Origami last year.
Some
>of that interest even spilled over onto this list. My guess is that a lot
of
>this arose because the puzzles could be solved by folding the paper
directly -
>by a combination of trial and error and insight rather than by mathematical
>analysis. Also perhaps it was because they were original puzzles about
folding
>paper rather than origami versions of puzzles usually made out of other
>materials.
>
>There are 18 puzzles in the book offering over 50 separate challenges in
all.
>All but 2 are my own. Most of them are pure origami. Some are single sheet,
>some are modular. A few of them require some preliminary cutting and
gluing.
>
>The solutions to most of the puzzles are included of course. The exception
is
>Merlin's Mat - a kind of folding tangram - in which only one of the many
>solutions to the most difficult figure is given. (You'll easily find the
other
>figures for yourself. Well - some of them are easy anyway!) The main reason
>for this was lack of space. I wanted room to include the famous Flexotube
>puzzle ( a cubic tube that can be folded inside out) because although the
>puzzle is widely published a lot of the most interesting solutions are
>virtually unknown. I wanted room to diagram all six and a half of them that
I
>knew. Though there may be more ...
>
>Origami puzzles are a very different kind of origami - but I have a theory
>that you can learn more about how paper behaves during the folding process
in
>five minutes wrestling with a puzzle than in several hours patiently
following
>folding instructions. Attempting a puzzle helps you to think about paper
>creatively. What happens if I .... ah - now I see!
>
>Dave Mitchell





From: Andrew Daw <andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:18:28 +0000 (
Subject: Re: Lang's insects - Paper

>
<SNIP>
> Also I found the Hercules beetle very Doable even with Kami. I have a
> picture of one done from 6" Kami on my website.  Also pictured there is
> langs long necked seed bug, considerably harder.
>
> B R E T T

I like the picture of the model of the "Long Necked Seed Bug" you have.
What paper did you use ? It gives it an impressive finish :)





From: Kimberly Warren <warre016@MC.DUKE.EDU>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:52:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Maitreya (was: Origami display at Xerox PARC)

The word "maitreya" is rooted in a Sanskrit word ("maitri") meaning love or
friendship, with the sense of friendship to all beings, love without
discrimination.  In Buddhism (as it has been taught to me), Maitreya is the
future Buddha, the Buddha to be born, the Buddha of Love.  Maitreya is
often depicted as a baby or young child.  In the tradition I practice in,
we bow to the great beings, representations of energies we all possess.
One of these beings is Maitreya:

Seed of awakening and loving kindness in children, sprouts and all
  beings, Maitreya, the Buddha to be born, to whom we bow in
  gratitude.

With maitri,
Kim

"Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM> on 01/11/99 03:31:45 PM

Please respond to Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>

 To:      ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU

 cc:

 Subject: Re: Maitreya (was: Origami display at Xerox PARC)

The model is diagrammed in Tanteidan Convention book 4.

B R E T T

-----Original Message-----
From:   Kim Best [mailto:kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU]
Sent:   Friday, October 23, 1998 4:51 PM
To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        Maitreya (was: Origami display at Xerox PARC)

Rjlang@AOL.COM wrote:

> You can see a selection of featured models at Marshall Bern's web site:

> http://www.parc.xerox.com/csl/members/bern/origami.html
>

I have some questions about the model labeled :
Takashi Hojyo, Maitreya (Miroku-Bosatsu)

Who is this gorgeous lady?  I don't know what 'Maitreya' means in english.
Anyone have more background?

Is her headgear supposed to look like a fancy engineers cap?  Thats what it
looks
like when I fold it, but from the photograph I can't tell if that supposed
to be
the case.

This is such a richly detail and beautiful model.  And should make anyone
who
claims that complex folding is so mired in technique it loses it's charm,
hang
their head in same.
--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Robert Allan Schwartz <notbob@TESSELLATION.COM>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:29:37 -0500
Subject: Folding a wedding invitation

Does anyone have an especially clever or pretty way to fold a wedding
invitation? All ideas and suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks,

Robert

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From: "L. Hayashi" <lmh@COMPUSMART.AB.CA>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:03:59 -0700
Subject: Origami Books in Canada

Hi All,

I was just at my local "Chapters Book Store" here in Edmonton, Alberta Canada
     and was so pleased to see such
an array of  origami books.  Here is a partial list of what I found

        Origami Omnibus K. Kasahara
        Simple Traditional Origami - Tomoko Fuse
        Fabulous Origami Boxes  Tomoko Fuse
        Secrets of Origami - Robert Harbin
        Step by Step Origami - Robert Harbin (new Dover edition)
        Russian Origami - S. Afonkin and Tom Hull
        Origami in Action - R. Lang
        Modern Origami - James Sakoda
        Easy Origami  - K. Kobayashi and C. Sunayama
        Quick and Eas;y Origami Boxes - Tomoko Fuse

This was at the Strathcona location.  Usually the Calgary Trail store has most
     of John Montrolls books in
stock as well.

So if you are shopping and looking for Origami books keep your eyes open at
     your local Chapter's book store

Happy Shopping and Folding
Lynda





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:30:17 -0800
Subject: Re: Folding a wedding invitation

This wedding should not proceed without Neal Elias' "Last Waltz" gracing
the wedding cake!

Dorothy





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:14:51 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Neil Elias Models

In a message dated 99-01-12 08:25:35 EST, you write:

> Is anyone interested in swapping some Elias models.

<snip>

Hi,

I don't have anything to swap.

 I do have a suggestion. Perhaps you should also post
your mailing address if you mean to swap physical
origami models?

Good luck.

Aloha,

Kenneth M. Kawamura





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cyrille_Pr=E9aux?= <cyrille.preaux@ACCESINTERNET.COM>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:24:43 +0100
Subject: Re: Folding a wedding invitation

>Does anyone have an especially clever or pretty way to fold a wedding
>invitation? All ideas and suggestions are welcomed.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Robert
>

i've seen a letter closed by a crane, This fold as been shown to me by
Roberto Morassi...

as the crane is associated with many symbol, i think that it should be use
for a weeding invitation...

Cyrille,





From: Michael Belehradek <mbelehradek@CNC.SK>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:25:40 +0100
Subject: Re: Origami Books in Canada

At 00:03 13.1.1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I was just at my local "Chapters Book Store" here in Edmonton, Alberta
Canada and was so pleased to see such
>an array of  origami books.  Here is a partial list of what I found
>
>        Origami Omnibus K. Kasahara
>        Simple Traditional Origami - Tomoko Fuse
>        Fabulous Origami Boxes  Tomoko Fuse
>        Secrets of Origami - Robert Harbin
>        Step by Step Origami - Robert Harbin (new Dover edition)
>        Russian Origami - S. Afonkin and Tom Hull
>        Origami in Action - R. Lang
>        Modern Origami - James Sakoda
>        Easy Origami  - K. Kobayashi and C. Sunayama
>        Quick and Eas;y Origami Boxes - Tomoko Fuse
>
>This was at the Strathcona location.  Usually the Calgary Trail store has
most of John Montrolls books in
>stock as well.
>
>So if you are shopping and looking for Origami books keep your eyes open
at your local Chapter's book store
>
>Happy Shopping and Folding
>Lynda

In USA  and Canada is situation very good in selling Origami books. Worse
it is in Europe. I dont know about any
bookstore around my teritory (Bratislava Slovakia) which has Origami books
on store. If anyone knows about such
bookstore in Wien please let me know.
>From online Internet shopping stores the lowest prices has
www.shopping.com. But I haven't order any books from there yet.
Do you have experiences with ordering from this shop?

If anyone knows the shop with lower prices than www.shopping.com please let
us know. :-))


     Mike





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:14:20 +0000
Subject: Re: Neil Elias Models

Kenny1414@AOL.COM sez

>> Is anyone interested in swapping some Elias models.

I trust you've ordered the three Elias booklets from BOS supplies?
Superb value & *hours* of folding - check out the write-up &
illustrations of the contents at the BOS web-site.

nb. they cost less if you're a member ;)

all the best,

Nick Robinson

homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Garry Robertson <Garry_Robertson@LOEWENGROUP.COM>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:30:16 -0800
Subject: Origami Supplies in Manilla

Can anyone help me?

I introduced one of my staff to Origami by folding some Santas to decorate
the offices here.

She went home to Manilla for the holidays and got her sister hooked.

Now, the sister has no idea where to get any supplies, short of getting
packages of paper sent to her from Vancouver.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Garry Robertson
Vancouver, B.C.
Canada





From: Black Eagle <rbe@FLASH.NET>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:57:16 -0600
Subject: Re: Origami Books in Canada

Michael Belehradek wrote:

> In USA  and Canada is situation very good in selling Origami books. Worse
> it is in Europe. I dont know about any bookstore around my teritory
> (Bratislava Slovakia) which has Origami books on store. If anyone knows
> about such bookstore in Wien please let me know. >From online Internet
> shopping stores the lowest prices has www.shopping.com. But I haven't
> order any books from there yet. Do you have experiences with ordering from
> this shop?
>
> If anyone knows the shop with lower prices than www.shopping.com please
> let us know. :-))

Go to http://www.acses.com for the lowest prices including
shipping on any book in print.

Black Eagle
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Ask for my PGP public key
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Use the H.A.M.R. at http://www.hamr.com





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:39:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Folding a wedding invitation

>for a weeding invitation...

Maybe a trowel model would be appropriate?





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:59:22 -0500 (
Subject: Thanks to everyone for the 1,000 Cranes for Jay project!

 Dear June:

Following is a letter I received from Terry and Jay:

"Dear Susan and Kathleen:

The second box of cranes arrived yesterday - the perfect New Years Eve
Surprise.

This is the most wonderful gift anyone has ever given us.  Makes us feel truly
blessed, loved and lucky.

(In the middle of a terrible, hard illness, wonderful cranes make us feel
special and lucky).

Jay is delighted to know how much everyone cares.

We send our love and blessings for the new year,

Sincerely,

Terry and Jay"

I also received a picture in the mail of Jay with the cranes.  Terry created a
beautiful way to display the cranes.  She suspended a tree branch over the
chair where Jay  likes to rest and read.  She has attached each strand of
cranes to the branch and it is a beautiful colorful display.  I will send you
the photo and if you have a scanner you will be able to share this lovely
picture with everyone.  Jay is no longer able to attend school but he and his
mother are looking forward to having a lunar new year party at their home in
February.  Please keep Jay and his family in your prayers.

A great big thank you to all who helped Susan and I get this project together.
We never could accomplished this alone.

Sincerely,

Kathleen





From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:42:58 -0600
Subject: Re: Animals, Birds & Insect Origami

I have checked that out from the library before.  It wasn't my cup of tea.

>From what I saw of it there is a lot of cutting and non-square paper
involved.

It is very different from the styles of Montroll and Lang, and takes a
completely different approach at origami.

The designs in this book remind me of someone that hasn't had contact with
any origami books or other people that fold (or very little contact).  Maybe
someone that developed the skill completely on their own similar to P.D.
Tuyen (classic orgiami and wild origami) grew up in relative origami
isolation.

Anyone have any comments on this ?
B R E T T

-----Original Message-----
From:   Imtiaz Razvi [mailto:imtiazrazvi@hotmail.com]
Sent:   Tuesday, January 12, 1999 12:22 AM
To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        Animals, Birds & Insect Origami

For those of you interested in folding the above I would greatly
recommend getting hold of a copy of

Origami Animals by Hector Rojas.

Although I don't have the book now, I still have some of the his model
diagrams.
I would rate some of his animal and bird models as good as if not better
than Montroll's. His insects are equally stunning.In my view his insects
have as much good affect as some of Lang's models and are a lot easier
to fold.

The giraffe is one of the few I have seen that has both a long neck and
long legs. The Condor is another great model.

Regards

Imtiaz Razvi

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From: Eric Andersen <ema@NETSPACE.ORG>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:22:49 -0500
Subject: origami sighting on sprint.com

Just point your browser to http://www.sprint.com and put your mouse over
"Sprint Small Business Solutions" in the lower right. I think they also
use this bird model in their commercials.

-Eric :-P
origami@netspace.org

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From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:10:08 +0100
Subject: Re: Folding a wedding invitation

Cyrille wrote:

>>Does anyone have an especially clever or pretty way to fold a wedding
>>invitation? All ideas and suggestions are welcomed.

>i've seen a letter closed by a crane, This fold as been shown to me by
>Roberto Morassi...
>as the crane is associated with many symbol, i think that it should be use
>for a weeding invitation...

I agree ! This is possibly well known: I use to fold it from an A4-size,
but this is not strictly necessary. I can draw a quick diagram and put it
on a server for download, if someone is interested.

Roberto





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:19:45 -0200
Subject: Re: Animals, Birds & Insect Origami

>>From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
>>I have checked that out from the library before.  It wasn't my cup of tea.
>>
>>>From what I saw of it there is a lot of cutting and non-square paper
>>involved.
Not to mention decorating (painting) the folded model.
...
>>It is very different from the styles of Montroll and Lang, and takes a
Agreed.  The original message mentioned Rojas's models as as good or
better than Montroll's, and with as much good effect as Lang's. IMHO
they are only better if "easy" is the single criterion, ignoring
realism, elegance, paper-saving, 3D effects, and so on. Concerning
"effect", that's true only if the onlooker ignores the effort and
technique involved in good folding (sadly that's the usual case).
...
>>someone that developed the skill completely on their own similar to P.D.
>>Tuyen (classic orgiami and wild origami) grew up in relative origami
>>isolation.
I see. If that's the case, "classic" looks a little bit pretentious :) Cf.
Paul Jackson's book of same title.

>>Anyone have any comments on this ?
Let's not again enter that dangerous discussion area about "purity" of
origami.  But if you reader consider origami as using preferably a
single square (except in modular designs, of course), with as few
cuts and glue as possible, and independent of decoration, be advised:
the "origami" in this title was somewhat outstretched.
Those are simple or intermediate models, but lacking the elegance of
say, Akira Yoshizawa (whose models are simple and easy---if you check
the number of steps and nothing more).

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 22:32:01 -1000
Subject: Re: Wedding Butterflies

Rachel Katz wrote:
>
> Jane,
>
> You wrote some time ago about "Wedding Butterflies." So you happen to know the
> significance of the butterfly as a symbol for weddings?
>
>I read somewhere, purely forgot where, that the butterfly in a Japanese
     wedding represented a girl coming into womanhood...or something like that?
     Help?  Jan
--
<http://www.gotomymall.com/hawaii/origami/>
Origami by Jan website...the Fodor folder





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:27:41 -0700
Subject: Re: Folding a wedding invitation

Cyrille Priaux wrote:

> i've seen a letter closed by a crane, This fold as been shown to me by
> Roberto Morassi...
>
Sounds like an awful waste of some very expensive machinery.  What kind
of arrangement of chains and pulleys did he use?

Or am I mistaken and Roberto is teaching water fowl some neat tricks
with stationary.

:-) Sorry I couldn't resist! :-)

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:45:30 -0600
Subject: Re: Anime designs

There are diagrams for something called GODPHOENIX in the Tanteidan
convention book number 2, available from Sasuga Books.

I think I saw something similar to Gundam typed on the page, mostly the page
is in Japanese so I can't give any more information.  Also my knowledge of
Anime and Manga is extremely WEAK.

Sasuga is also a great source for Anime/mang stuff, you should check them
out (I'm not affiliated with them, they just have a great store and
service).

B R E T T

-----Original Message-----
From:   Donna & Robin [mailto:robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK]
Sent:   Wednesday, January 06, 1999 4:02 PM
To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        Anime designs

I have been asked to contribute an origami model for a booklet for
an 'anime' (Japanese animation) convention. I am trying to design
a Gundam robot but if anyone has already designed or knows of an
easy/intermediate anime related model could they please mail me.





From: Maureen Evans <kanga@ESCAPE.CA>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:43:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Folding a wedding invitation

I would be very interested in this fold.

Maureen
kanga@escape.ca

Robby/Laura wrote:

> I agree ! This is possibly well known: I use to fold it from an A4-size,
> but this is not strictly necessary. I can draw a quick diagram and put it
> on a server for download, if someone is interested.
>
> Roberto





From: Jeff DeHerdt <jadeherd@IUPUI.EDU>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:48:04 -0500
Subject: Mask Origami

        Hello, everyone. I'm new to the list so I don't know all
the topics that have been covered recently. So, if this topic
has been covered please point me to the archives.

        Are there any books specifically on origami masks. I've
seen a model in a Robert Harbin book I have(Secrets of Origami?)
and in another book I have, but I haven't found a large amount of
documented models in commericially produced books. I haven't really
checked out any untranslated japanese books, so there might be a
source there. In "Origami from A to Zen" Peter Engel mentions an artist
who's specialty is masks(the name escapes me now).

        Any suggestions?

                                Thanks

                                        Jeffrey DeHerdt





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:33:52 +0100
Subject: Re: Animals, Birds & Insect Origami

On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Imtiaz Razvi wrote:
> For those of you interested in folding the above I would greatly
> recommend getting hold of a copy of
> Origami Animals by Hector Rojas.

If this is the same as the German "Faszinierende Origami Tierwelt", I
wouldn't recommend it at all.

Practically all models use cuts at some stages, or are made from
peculiarly shaped paper. Many of the are made from two (often non-uniform)
pieces of paper and require glue to assemble. All the models in the
photographs are painted. Oh, and before I forget it, the diagrams are bad
too. :-)

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@PB.NET>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:08:08 +0000
Subject: Re: Wedding Butterflies

Jane,

You wrote some time ago about "Wedding Butterflies." So you happen to know the
significance of the butterfly as a symbol for weddings?

By the way, my sister is an entomologist too. She lives in Canada and did her
Phd on crane flies.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:19:40 -0700
Subject: Bookweights and stands (was Binding of Books)

The Levenger catalog offers bookweights and quite a variety of stands, one
at least I know is adjustable from thin magazines to thick tomes. You can
look at the catalog online:

http://www.levenger.com/

Look under the link for desk accessories for the bookweights and stands.

Also of interest to folders perhaps is their lap desk. You can find that in
the furniture section.

Now why am I sitting in front of the computer when I could be folding?

pat slider.





From: Edith Kort <ekort@MCLS.ROCHESTER.LIB.NY.US>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:26:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Folding a wedding invitation

There is a crane envelope by Jeremy Shafer in the 1997 USA annual.  I
think there is also a lovey dovey dollar fold which would be suitable
for an oblong invitation.

Other ideas for a wedding invitation would be various heart folds.
There are several in the 97 annual and others, there is the book by
Frances Ow, and there is a 3-d heart in Gay Merril Gross's book.  Rings
or intersecting rings would be good.  Flowers would be good.  A Moebius
strip would be interesting.

Good luck.
--
  Edith M. Kort    Rochester,   NY





From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:08:20 -0800 (
Subject: Re: Neil Elias Models

Hi Kenny

Sorry I meant diagrams only. Not pyhsical models.

Imtiaz

>Date:         Wed, 13 Jan 1999 01:14:51 EST
>Reply-To:     Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>From:         Kenny1414@AOL.COM
>Subject:      Re: Neil Elias Models
>To:           ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>
>In a message dated 99-01-12 08:25:35 EST, you write:
>
>> Is anyone interested in swapping some Elias models.
>
><snip>
>
>Hi,
>
>I don't have anything to swap.
>
> I do have a suggestion. Perhaps you should also post
>your mailing address if you mean to swap physical
>origami models?
>
>Good luck.
>
>Aloha,
>
>Kenneth M. Kawamura
>

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From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:23:47 -0800 (
Subject: Re: Animals, Birds & Insect Origami- apologies for any offence caused

Hi Brett

I agree with a great deal of what Brett says. Certainly from a 'classic'
point of view the odd bit of cutting and gluing required is not in
keeping with tradition.

As he say it comes down to a discussion of purity of origami.
99 times out of a hundred I myself prefer and indeed fold models that do
not break the rules. That said occassionally it is nice to fold what I
still consider to be 'beautiful' models that have the odd cut or are
painted etc.
My comments were not in any way meant to detract from the skill and
brilliance of models my Montroll and Lang. Folding these brings its own
pleasure.

I hope I caused no offence to lovers of Montroll or Lang's models.
Sorry.

Imtiaz

>Date:         Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:19:45 -0200
>Reply-To:     Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>From:         Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
>Subject:      Re: Animals, Birds & Insect Origami
>To:           ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>
>>>From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
>>>I have checked that out from the library before.  It wasn't my cup of
tea.
>>>
>>>>From what I saw of it there is a lot of cutting and non-square paper
>>>involved.
>Not to mention decorating (painting) the folded model.
>...
>>>It is very different from the styles of Montroll and Lang, and takes
a
>Agreed.  The original message mentioned Rojas's models as as good or
>better than Montroll's, and with as much good effect as Lang's. IMHO
>they are only better if "easy" is the single criterion, ignoring
>realism, elegance, paper-saving, 3D effects, and so on. Concerning
>"effect", that's true only if the onlooker ignores the effort and
>technique involved in good folding (sadly that's the usual case).
>...
>>>someone that developed the skill completely on their own similar to
P.D.
>>>Tuyen (classic orgiami and wild origami) grew up in relative origami
>>>isolation.
>I see. If that's the case, "classic" looks a little bit pretentious :)
Cf.
>Paul Jackson's book of same title.
>
>>>Anyone have any comments on this ?
>Let's not again enter that dangerous discussion area about "purity" of
>origami.  But if you reader consider origami as using preferably a
>single square (except in modular designs, of course), with as few
>cuts and glue as possible, and independent of decoration, be advised:
>the "origami" in this title was somewhat outstretched.
>Those are simple or intermediate models, but lacking the elegance of
>say, Akira Yoshizawa (whose models are simple and easy---if you check
>the number of steps and nothing more).
>
>        Sincerely,
>                Carlos
>        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti
>

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From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:52:35 -0600
Subject: Re: Animals, Birds & Insect Origami

Sebastian Marius Kirsch wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Imtiaz Razvi wrote:
> > For those of you interested in folding the above I would greatly
> > recommend getting hold of a copy of
> > Origami Animals by Hector Rojas.
>
> If this is the same as the German "Faszinierende Origami Tierwelt", I
> wouldn't recommend it at all.
>
> Practically all models use cuts at some stages, or are made from
> peculiarly shaped paper. Many of the are made from two (often non-uniform)
> pieces of paper and require glue to assemble. All the models in the
> photographs are painted. Oh, and before I forget it, the diagrams are bad
> too. :-)
>
> Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
>                         /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)

For those of you new to the list, please note that this reply was not
personal,
it only addressed the senders opinion of a book, not his opinion of the first
poster!!!  So before any one gets upset look twice then reply, it probably
wasn't personal.  It was just another opinion.

Perry

--
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From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:22:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Bookweights and stands (was Binding of Books)

Pat Slider, after pointing us to the Levenger web site:
        http://www.levenger.com/
asks:
        "Now why am I sitting in front of the computer
         when I could be folding?"

Uhhhhh, trying to make money to afford pricey Levenger catalogue items? ;-)
But, that is a nice place to get ideas.

Like the milk jug "bone folders" (check the archives if you don't know what
the means and are curious ;-) ), one doesn't _need_ to spend lots of money to
get a good solution... unless one wants to of course. ;-)

-D'gou





From: Julie Rhodes <kettir@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:43:04 +0000 (
Subject: Re: Folding a wedding invitation

On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:00:01 -0500, you wrote:

>>i've seen a letter closed by a crane, This fold as been shown to me by
>>Roberto Morassi...
>>as the crane is associated with many symbol, i think that it should be use
>>for a weeding invitation...
>
>I agree ! This is possibly well known: I use to fold it from an A4-size,
>but this is not strictly necessary. I can draw a quick diagram and put it
>on a server for download, if someone is interested.

Yes!  I definitely want this one!
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geocities dot com  = o_o =  |  How Nature points up the folly of men."





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 02:06:07 +0100
Subject: Re: Folding a wedding invitation

Kim,
At 14.27 14/1/1999 -0700, you wrote:

>> i've seen a letter closed by a crane, This fold as been shown to me by
>> Roberto Morassi...
>>
>Sounds like an awful waste of some very expensive machinery.  What kind
>of arrangement of chains and pulleys did he use?

Just a normal crane. It was a very big letter, to be folded from copper
sheet. I spent a lot of money on postage.....
>
>Or am I mistaken and Roberto is teaching water fowl some neat tricks
>with stationary.

I've tried this, too, but they are so stupid and have never learnt to fold
properly. I guess this is because the paper was wet, or it depends on their
missing thumbs.....
>
>:-) Sorry I couldn't resist! :-)

Forgiven, forgiven..... ;-)

Roberto





From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@KIMSCRANE.COM>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:30:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Mask Origami

Let's not forget the Italian book on masks, Volti In Origami by Eric
Kenneway.
Sincerely,
Kimberly Crane
http://www.kimscrane.com

Jeff DeHerdt wrote:

>         Hello, everyone. I'm new to the list so I don't know all
> the topics that have been covered recently. So, if this topic
> has been covered please point me to the archives.
>
>         Are there any books specifically on origami masks. I've
> seen a model in a Robert Harbin book I have(Secrets of Origami?)
> and in another book I have, but I haven't found a large amount of
> documented models in commericially produced books. I haven't really
> checked out any untranslated japanese books, so there might be a
> source there. In "Origami from A to Zen" Peter Engel mentions an artist
> who's specialty is masks(the name escapes me now).
>
>         Any suggestions?
>
>                                 Thanks
>
>                                         Jeffrey DeHerdt





From: Teresa Ford <TesaFord@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:19:19 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Folding a wedding invitation

In a message dated 1/14/99 6:44:00 PM Central Standard Time,
kettir@GEOCITIES.COM writes:

> >>i've seen a letter closed by a crane, This fold as been shown to me by
>  >>Roberto Morassi...
>  >>as the crane is associated with many symbol, i think that it should be
use
>  >>for a weeding invitation...
>  >
>  >I agree ! This is possibly well known: I use to fold it from an A4-size,
>  >but this is not strictly necessary. I can draw a quick diagram and put it
>  >on a server for download, if someone is interested.
>
>  Yes!  I definitely want this one!

Me too!!  Please send it to me also.

Thanks in advance.

Teresa Ford





From: Michie Sahara <michies@WESTWORLD.COM>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:02:42 -0800
Subject: Folding a wedding invitation

There are two books excellent for this purpose.  Both are in English.
     "Creative cards" by Yoshiko Kitagawa from Kodansha International ISBN
     0-87011-964-8 and
"Gift wrapping...Creative Ideas from Japan" by Kunio Ekiguchi from the same
     publisher ISBN 0-87011-768-8.  They are both great books.





From: Michie Sahara <michies@WESTWORLD.COM>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:18:49 -0800
Subject: origami sighting

One of my favavorit things to do is to watch old movies on AMC.  Just saw "The
     Manchurian Candidate" last night.  About 1/3 of the way into the movie
     there is a scene in which Raymond Shaw played by Lawrence Harvey is in the
     sanitorium bed surrounded by a
 Chinese communist commander and a Russian doctor.  They are discussing whether
     Raymond still can kill when he's given orders by them.  Just to test this
     they want to order him to kill his boss.  While this is being discussed
     the Chinese man calmly folds
 r





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:27:11 +0000
Subject: Re: Mask Origami

Jeff DeHerdt <jadeherd@IUPUI.EDU> sez

>        Are there any books specifically on origami masks. I've

There's a back issue of Oru devoted to Masks, Kawai books usually
contain some, as does Kasahara's classic "Creative Origami".

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:40:24 -0200
Subject: Re: Mask Origami

>>From: Jeff DeHerdt <jadeherd@IUPUI.EDU>
>>Subject:      Mask Origami
>>
>>        Are there any books specifically on origami masks. I've

I know two:

FUSE Tomoko's "The Mask", Gallery House Japan 1998. In Japanese, most
about classical Japanese theater and mythology. See Anne Lavin's
comprehensive review: web.mit.edu/lavin/www/origami-books.html. Truly
fantastic photographs and diagrams, a beautiful surprise for those
used to FUSE's modular style.

Grupo Riglos, "El Libro de las Mascaras de Papel Plegado", Alianza
Editorial, Spain 1997, in Spanish. Grupo Riglos comprises fine Spaniard
creators like Luis Bas Arrechea and Gabriel Alvarez. There are
dozens of masks in this small book, finishing with an excellent gargoyle
by J.Anibal Voyer. If I remember well, only one model uses cuts. There's
even a "Donald Duck"(TM? (R)? (c)?) mask from a napkin...

In addition, KASAHARA Kunihiko's "Origami Omnibus", recently
reprinted by Japan Publications, includes about ten masks (I rembember
Pinocchio, Celestial Warrior, Singer, Tengu, Genie, Lion, Gorilla,
Grinning Old Man, Demon 1/2 and a few others)

KASAHARA's classical book "Creative Origami", Japan Publications 1967
has the Indian, Sheik/Viking, Pan (and others I forgot).

Nick Robinson made available in the origami archives at least one
mask model.

>>seen a model in a Robert Harbin book I have(Secrets of Origami?)
>>and in another book I have, but I haven't found a large amount of
>>documented models in commericially produced books. I haven't really
>>checked out any untranslated japanese books, so there might be a
YOSHIZAWA Akira published several masks. Check "Sousaku Origami" (NHK, Japan,
Japanese) and "Inochi Yutaka na Origami" (ORU, Japan, Japanese),
sometimes translated as "Compilation of Masterworks".
Sorry, I forgot which one has his Western theater-style pair of masks
(laughing-crying). I'll have to check at home.

>>source there. In "Origami from A to Zen" Peter Engel mentions an artist
>>who's specialty is masks(the name escapes me now).
Probably you mean KAWAI Toyoaki---Engel's book shows one of his
good luck charms (sort of a mask).

Books by Japan Publications are available in many online bookstores.
Japanese books are available, among others, at sasugabooks.com.
Our European friends could help you about availability of the
Spanish book---I got mine in Madrid.

I forgot now the Western author of many origami masks, including the
whimsically (and very appropriately) one named "The Invisible Man". Could
anybody refresh my memory?

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:41:15 -0600
Subject: Re: Folding a wedding invitation

Roberto wrote:

>Lots of differents letter folds and
>envelopes can be found in J. CUNLIFFE "Envelope and letter folding", B.O.S.
>Booklet n. 25, 1988.

Unfortunately, this is out of print. I tried to order it last summer, and
I just checked the BOS web page. It is still not available.

-Jane





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:20:14 -0800
Subject: Re: Dove of Peace Model

At 14:08 99/01/15 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello.
>I received this message. Anyone knows how to help her?
>
>Jose Tomas Buitrago
>
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:24:41 -0800
>From: Denise Mallett <DMallett@NGKSPARKPLUGS.COM>
>To: "'buitrago@eiee.univalle.edu.co'" <buitrago@eiee.univalle.edu.co>
>
>I am searching for an origami diagram for the Dove of Peace to help with
>kids in Childrens Hospital. Do you know where I can find it? I saw it in a
>book in the library a few years ago, but all art books have been
>redistributed since then.
>Thank you for any leads you may be able to give me.
>-Denise

It's in "Origami Omnibus" by KASAHARA Kunihiko.
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From: "WILLIAM F. SINDEL" <CISSITT@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:23:19 -0500
Subject: Kusudama's Ball Origami

I have to express my agreement with those who are dissatisfied with
"origami" books which involve too much cutting and gluing.  I do have one
book that is my favorite exception, called "Kusudama Ball Origami" by
Makoto Yamaguchi.  It has some beautiful, though time-consuming creations.
Carly





From: Bob Nienhuis <nienhuis@WGN.NET>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:26:16 -0800
Subject: Re: Mask Origami

There was an English language edition too.

Bob Nienhuis
http://www.wgn.net/~nienhuis/

>Let's not forget the Italian book on masks, Volti In Origami by Eric
>Kenneway.
>Sincerely,
>Kimberly Crane
>http://www.kimscrane.com
>
>Jeff DeHerdt wrote:
>
>>         Hello, everyone. I'm new to the list so I don't know all
>> the topics that have been covered recently. So, if this topic
>> has been covered please point me to the archives.
>>
>>         Are there any books specifically on origami masks. I've
>> seen a model in a Robert Harbin book I have(Secrets of Origami?)
>> and in another book I have, but I haven't found a large amount of
>> documented models in commericially produced books. I haven't really
>> checked out any untranslated japanese books, so there might be a
>> source there. In "Origami from A to Zen" Peter Engel mentions an artist
>> who's specialty is masks(the name escapes me now).
>>
>>         Any suggestions?
>>
>>                                 Thanks
>>
>>                                         Jeffrey DeHerdt





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:26:21 -0800
Subject: Hector Rojas' book (was Re: Kusudama's Ball Origami)

At 16:35 99/01/15 -0200, you wrote:
>(1) Messages like mine and Brett's (please correct me if I'm wrong, Brett)
>do not complain about c*t and gl*e in origami books in general. But when a
>post firmly
>praises a book which heavily relies on techniques considered unorthodox
>by many, if not most, one feels he/she must remark this fact to
>the folding community.
>
>(3) Reinforcing (1), the point is when a book title (or cover or
>blurb or synopsis or review) intentionally or not suggest contents
>_other_ than the real. In this case, comparing Rojas's and Montroll/Lang's
>models suggests similar techniques (one uncut sheet) in the former ones.

The real point about Rojas' models is that the folding is simplistic and
unappealing. Cutting and gluing aside, the models are poorly designed. Most
of them cannot be recognised as the animals that their names claim them to
be without his use of paint to add features. I've said it before: origami is
about folding; if the main artistic effect is achieved with some other
method than folding, it is not good origami (although it may still be good
art).

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From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:55:02 -0500 (
Subject: Re: origami sighting

The hat appears in "The Art of Chinese Paperfolding"by Maying Soong, published
in 1955 in hardcover and subsequently in paperback. It 's called "Old Scholar"
Hat.

All best from Florence.





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:06:04 -0800
Subject: Re: Hector Rojas' book (was Re: Kusudama's Ball Origami)

At 16:23 99/01/15 -0500, you wrote:
>I disagree that his models are not origami.

I didn't say that they were not origami, but that they were not good origami.

>I was given this book as a present several years ago.  At first, being
>a purist, I was taken aback by both the style of the folding and how
>the models were decorated in the finishing process.  However, upon
>reflection, and in consideration of the fact that Mr. Rojas admits
>that he didn't even know what origami was until he was an adult and
>therefore unaware of the basic techniques we all take for granted, I
>think his is an amazing accomplishment.  Well, worth studying, even
>though there are better models available from more traditional
>creators.

Barring his background, the fact remains that the models themselves are
often unrecognizable blobs until the paint is applied. Without the paint,
they are nothing. Thus they are not good origami. Origami is in the folding.
I'm not talking about "purity" here. I'm saying that the main point of
origami is in the folding. If cutting, glue, or paint are necessary, so be
it, but if one of those things becomes more important than the folding, then
it is not good origami, even though it might be good art.

>In regard to painting his models.  I can't believe that alone would
>make his work not origami.  I choose paper that will enhance my final
>model.  Sometimes dying paper to fit the model I'm making...with the
>LaFosse butterfly for the OUSA gift this year, I felt the model would
>look best made from a paper that had a vertical stripe pattern, unable
>to find such a paper, I created one.  I don't think that made the
>models I sent in merely art and not origami.  For some animals that
>have a rough hide I will use back coated tracing paper because if you
>wet tracing paper and allow it to dry it will bubble a bit and acquire
>a hide-like appearance.  And I think those models are origami even
>though I manipulated the paper before hand.

Take a look at his basset hound. It's basically a rectangle with a dog
painted on it. Is that origami? You might as well argue that any regular
greeting card is origami because it is folded in half and has a picture on it.

>The only difference I can see between what he does and what I do it
>that he does it afterwards.  Since his goal in making the animals was
>to have playthings in his childhood, I don't think decorating the
>models to make them a realistic looking as possible automatically
>makes them not origami.

No, that's not the only difference. Paper choice is important in origami, of
course. But paper choice and decoration is meant to complement the folding,
not to make up for bad folding or design.

All of this has been said before, much of it by me. Check the archives if
you want.

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From: Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@EIEE.UNIVALLE.EDU.CO>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:08:57 -0500
Subject: Dove of Peace Model

Hello.
I received this message. Anyone knows how to help her?

Jose Tomas Buitrago

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:24:41 -0800
From: Denise Mallett <DMallett@NGKSPARKPLUGS.COM>
To: "'buitrago@eiee.univalle.edu.co'" <buitrago@eiee.univalle.edu.co>

I am searching for an origami diagram for the Dove of Peace to help with
kids in Childrens Hospital. Do you know where I can find it? I saw it in a
book in the library a few years ago, but all art books have been
redistributed since then.
Thank you for any leads you may be able to give me.
-Denise





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:02:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Hector Rojas' book (was Re: Kusudama's Ball Origami)

Joseph Wu indited:

> The real point about Rojas' models is that the folding is simplistic and
> unappealing. Cutting and gluing aside, the models are poorly designed. Most
> of them cannot be recognised as the animals that their names claim them to
> be without his use of paint to add features. I've said it before: origami is
> about folding; if the main artistic effect is achieved with some other
> method than folding, it is not good origami (although it may still be good
> art).

Well put.  I was going to grab some stuff from the archive, but your paragraph
above summarizes my opinion quite crisply.

Speaking of the archive... this topic has come up in the past, and I urge
interested readers to consult the archives (http://www-japan.mit.edu/origami)
for additional comments.  I say that not to discourage further discussion, but
as another resource.

-D'gou





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:39:13 +0100
Subject: Re: Folding a wedding invitation

Maureen,
At 16.43 14/1/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>I would be very interested in this fold.

OK. Diagrams are here:

http://www.zen.it/~morassi/pics/letter.gif

I think it's a traditional fold. A variant is found in E. NAKAMURA
"Atarashii girei origami", Nichibo Shuppan Sha, 1974 (a book devoted to
ceremonial and formal folds, including the Noshi, all made from a "silver"
rectangle (1 / sqrt(2)). Also in I. HONDA "Noshi: Classic Origami in
Japan", Japan Publications, 1964. Lots of differents letter folds and
envelopes can be found in J. CUNLIFFE "Envelope and letter folding", B.O.S.
Booklet n. 25, 1988.

Roberto
