




From: Howard Portugal <howardp@FAST.NET>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:30:44 -0500
Subject: Re: talking mouth

Dorothy,

I think (now this is reaching back a looong time) that Freddy Finger was a
zig-zag type construction and is not what I'm talking about. As for Billy
Beak, the one that I'm referring to needs only one hand, it tends to
spring open and you use the fingers to close it.

Imagine kind of a boat or canoe that you fold in half so as to open it.
See below. When you pull the sides, the points come together and a hinge
kind of thing happens in the middle.

top view of a canoe

             ^
             ^ pull out here
    --------------------
<                             >
    --------------------
             v
             v pull out here

Dorothy Engleman wrote:

> Howard,
>
> There are two talking mouth models in the 1963 Shari Lewis and Lillian
> Oppenheimer book,  "Folding Paper Toys".
>
> "Freddy Finger" can be animated with one hand.
>
> "Billy Beak" requires two hands to "talk".
>
> Dorothy

--
Howard Portugal, West Chester, PA email:howardp@fast.net
---------------------------------------------------
"A problem worthy of attack, proves its worth by fighting back."
Author Unknown





From: Howard Portugal <howardp@FAST.NET>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:33:17 -0500
Subject: Re: talking mouth

Barbara,

I have looked in ORIGAMI IN ACTION, but don't have the other two.

Howard

Barbra0336@AOL.COM wrote:

> Regarding talking mouths.
> Try ORIGAMI IN ACTION by Robert J. Lang,  PAPER PANDAS AND JUMPING FROGS by
> Florence Temko,  and TRICK ORIGAMI by Yoshihide Momotani
> Have fun,  Barbara O

--
Howard Portugal, West Chester, PA email:howardp@fast.net
---------------------------------------------------
"A problem worthy of attack, proves its worth by fighting back."
Author Unknown





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:45:39 -0800
Subject: Re: Museum book slated

Merida wrote:

"Welcome to the List, Ms. Temko!!!"

I'll second and third that!!

This list is a virtual gathering of origami glitterati - from artists
and folders to writers and historians!!





From: Pancho <jperezanda@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:52:30 -0800
Subject: Re: Sasuga

To the ones that are waiting for e-mail answers from Sasuga, my solution was:

1. I sent a fax with my questions and my e-mail.
2. Someone from Sasuga answered me by e-mail and I started a very fluid
communication with this person. She gave me very good information about my
order, when it was shipped, tracking number, etc.

I would suggest this solution as a good one.

Regards,
Happy New Year,
Gabriel.

At 04:16 PM 20-11-98 -0200, you wrote:
>>>From: Gabriel <jperezanda@GEOCITIES.COM>
>
>>>I tried to contact Sasuga Bookstore via e-mail to the address in the web
>>>I did it twice and never receive an answer.
>Sasuga's responsiveness looks much worse than it was two years ago. I
>ordered goods there several times and never had any problem after the items
>were actually shipped.
>
>I likewise complained about the delay (one month) reporting the status
>of my latest order. The recent (this week) message mentioned that
>their new mailing system caused several (I'd say too many) e-mail
>answers to be dropped.  They reverted to the old system---let's hope
>service gets better now.





From: Meristein@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:21:43 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Museum book slated

Welcome to the List, Ms. Temko!!!

Merida





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:07:28 -0600
Subject: Re: talking mouth

>Imagine kind of a boat or canoe that you fold in half so as to open it.
>See below. When you pull the sides, the points come together and a hinge
>kind of thing happens in the middle.

Howard:

I am sure the model you are describing is in a Shari Lewis book, probably
"Folding Paper Toys." I remember learning it as a child from one of her
books.

-Jane





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 04:51:33 -0800
Subject: Re: Museum book slated

>Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:13:39
>To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>From: John Sutter <sutterj@earthlink.net>
>Subject: New Biddle Origami Book
>
>Hi Everybody,
>
>I was browsing in a museum gift store when I came across a beautiful museum
quality origami book.  The models in it are paired with wonderful color
plates of Japanese block prints for inspiration.  One wonderful thing about
this book is that is spiral bound and stays open to the page you want when
you're folding a certain model.  Another feature of it is the clever top
pouch that contains a supply of origami paper to go with the models.  With
tax it came to approx. $23.00  I would have gotten it if I didn't already
know many of the models in it.  It would make a great Christmas gift for a
beginner since it starts out easy and gets to intermediate models.  The
diagrams and the art history info. are good too.  It's not that big a book,
but it's the kind of
>"coffee table book" that invites exploration.
>
>Another book by Steve and Megumi Biddle is Planet Origami- It has wonderful
models of rockets and aliens and
>astronaughts.  I can't wait to try the models in it.  One boy in my club
has made most of them already.
>
>Ria Sutter  ^   ^
>           ( * * )
>            -----
>
This post is in response to Jane's recent post about the subject.  I wish
other origami books in the future would just have the spiral bound format
instead of regular binding.  I agree with Jane about it being a book for
beginners and about the credit for diagrams being misunderstood and that it
was disturbing.





From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:07:53 -0500 (
Subject: Re: talking mouth

Howard: See Talking Fish p. 42 of "Folding Paper Puppets" by Shari Lewis. It
was originally published in 1962, but  since then was republished in
paperback. It is traditional.

All best from Florence Temko.





From: Howard Portugal <howardp@FAST.NET>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:13:04 -0500
Subject: Re: talking mouth

Hi Florence,

Thanks for the reply. This sounds like the right one. Is there any way that you
might email me the diagrams? (howardp@fast.net)

Thanks,

Howard Portugal

Florence Temko wrote:

> Howard: See Talking Fish p. 42 of "Folding Paper Puppets" by Shari Lewis. It
> was originally published in 1962, but  since then was republished in
> paperback. It is traditional.
>
> All best from Florence Temko.

--
Howard Portugal, West Chester, PA email:howardp@fast.net
---------------------------------------------------
"A problem worthy of attack, proves its worth by fighting back."
Author Unknown





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:27:18 +0000
Subject: Biddles & copyright

Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET> sez

>"Introductions, instructions, diagrams, and models copyright1998
>by Steve and Megumi Biddle."

The first three, fine, but if people start claiming traditional designs
as their own, it's more than a bit cheeky. It surprises me a little; as
a former member of the BOS, Steve is FULLY aware of who owns what. Lets
think positively - it may well be something their publisher added & the
Biddles knew nothing about.

Perhaps a letter to the publishers might clarify things?

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:31:10 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Biddles & Copyright

Nick Robinson castigates the Biddles for claiming traditional copyright
designs as thier own. It may be an oversight. or it may be the publishers
"fail safe" method of including everything that is the Biddles' own creation
and leaving anyone who  claims copyright in anything they have used, to
object. Of course, "Traditional", (whoever he was) is in no position to
object. The worst that can be said about the matter is that the Biddles may be
concealing from the public those items which are now free of copyright or, as
the modern expression goes, "in the public domain".

I haven't seen the book, but if the Biddles have followed their previous ways,
they will have indicated traditional models as such.

As Nick suggests, the Biddles can still have copyright in any diagrams they
have drawn, even for traditional models. And they can also claim copyright for
the  layout of the book. I don't think that this is anything for people to get
hot under the collar about.

A Happy New Year to you all,

David Lister.





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:31:12 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Museum book slated

May I add the warmest of welcomes to Florence Temko on joining the Origami
List.

I hope that Florence will not be offended if I remind everybody that Florence
was sewing fluffy animals with Lillian Oppenheimer before ever Lillian
rediscovered her interest in paperfolding by learning to fold the flapping
bird sometime around 1953. Curiously, that was the year when Robert Harbin
himself rediscovered paperfolding and the year when Gershon Legman first made
contact with Akira Yoshizawa. (And, I hesitate to add, the year when I at last
caught up with what was then the elusive the Chinese Junk and embarked on my
own eccentric study of paperfolding).

Florence's heading "Museum Book Slated" had me fooled at first. It's probably
a minor difference between the British and American languages that the word
"slated" can be used in different ways.  According to British newspaper
headline usage, "slated" would mean "severely criticised" or "rubbished". I
could hardly think that a Biddle Book would merit such condemnation. Then I
realised that "slated" might, in American English, also merely mean
"announced".  Am  I right?

Whatever its present usage, the term originally referred to something being
written up on  a slate as a matter of record or announcement. Trusted regular
customers of British pubs who were temporarily without the wherewithall would
obtain a pint on credit, which would then be written up on  a slate at the
back of the bar. Or special announcements might be put on the slate.

I have great respect for the Biddles' and their books and I look forward to
seeing their new one. What a scoop to have it published by the Metropolitan
Museum of Art! I've just been to Bologna, but saw nothing of the Book Fair.

Apologies for this lurching contribution. It's the time of the year.

David Lister.





From: Meristein@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:25:01 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Museum book slated

David, if you consider your recent message "lurching", then please continue to
lurch at us on the List in your inimitable fashion.

"Slated" in the US does indeed carry the connotation of being listed, on the
slate as it were in order to have something done to, for or with it. Who was
it said of the Americans and British, "we are a single people divided by
language." (I think I'm paraphrasing here, but you get the gist).

Happy New Year to our friends across the pond, and a good First Footing.

Merida & Mike





From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:52:02 -0800 (
Subject: Hulk Hogan Diagrams and others

I am desperate for the following diagrams. Can anyone help.
They are old models from the Origami Tanteidan that are no longer
available.

The models in order of priority are

Hulk Hogan

A Witch

and that amazing Motorcycle.

If anyone has a copy of the diagrams I should be grateful if they could
contact me.

I have a choice of a lot of models for exchange if required.

Thanks

Imtiaz

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From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:54:35 -0800 (
Subject: Baby Grand Piano

A few weeks ago a lady requested diagrams for a baby grand piano.

If she still needs them I can help.

Regards

Imtiaz

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From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:05:48 -0800 (
Subject: Russian Web Site & also Batman!

Just to endorse what somebody wrote yesterday about the above site.

It is a top rate site with many diagrams available.
The beauty of the origami of the Shumakovs is in the originality and
depth of the models they create. Very few models are one or two
dimensional.

You may encounter some minor problems with the text that accompanies the
diagrams, because of their style of English.
However the quality of the diagrams means this is not a big issue.

By the way from my e-mails to them I can tell you that they are also
wondeful people.

I would also highly recommend the Italian C.D.O. site.

Finally I seem to remember seeing in the archives talk of a Batman
model. Can anyone shed any light on the latest situation with regards to
the diagrams becoming available.

Regards

Imtiaz

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From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:51:31 +0800
Subject: talking mouth

Just a quick note regarding the talking mouth - Paul Jackson has one in his
book on action toys or something similar (I'm at work!!!).  This is also the
book in which he diagrams "chicken and egg", which was raised (pun intended)
some weeks ago on the list.  The book is relatively old (maybe 12 years??),
but as I'm privileged to have been bought origami books in Japan from early
childhood by my dad, and have lived there on and off for years, it is one of
my newer books!

People often ask the list for books for new-comers.  I always recommend Paul
Jackson's books when I teach, not only as they are clear and beautifully
illustrated, but because he's a really nice bloke (and I had a crush on him
when I first joined BOS at about age 13  - but this is our secret).

On a final unrelated note, my 1999 resolution is to actually get off my arse
and set up an origami group in Perth (Western Australia).  In case people
wonder why not a national group - I did try many years ago, but as Perth to
Sydney is like London to Moscow in distance - it's just too damn far too
meet, and the portfolio that started going around got too heavy to post,
criticised (too easy/hard) and then lost!!

May everyone find creases only where they want them in 1999!
Clare





From: JacAlArt@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:12:17 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Russian Web Site & also Batman!

In a message dated 12/30/98 11:06:37 AM, you wrote:

<<Just to endorse what somebody wrote yesterday about the above site.
>>

What are the URLs again?





From: Carlos Alberto Furuti <furuti@AHAND.UNICAMP.BR>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:25:09 -0200
Subject: Re: Hulk Hogan Diagrams and others

>>From: Imtiaz Razvi <imtiazrazvi@HOTMAIL.COM>

>>I am desperate for the following diagrams. Can anyone help.
>>They are old models from the Origami Tanteidan that are no longer
>>available.
>>
The motorcycles by YOSHINO Issei published in OT newsletter vol.3
were also published in his posthumous book, "Issei Super Complex
Origami" (Origami House, Jp). I don't know about the witch by
NISHIKAWA Seiji in the same newsletter---you probably don't mean
the witch on a broom by MIYAJIMA Noboru, published in OT
convention vol.4.
ISCO and OTC4 are available in Sasuga, among others.

        Sincerely,
                Carlos
        furuti@ahand.unicamp.br www.ahand.unicamp.br/~furuti

P.S. In another post you mentioned interest in a Batman (TM? (c)? (R)?)
model. Don't know about the original messages, but there are Batman
& Joker masks in "El Libro de las Mascaras de Papel Piegado" (Grupo
Riglos, Es) published last year.





From: Casida Mark <casida@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:19:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Russian Web Site

> The URL is:
>     http://www.comm.ru/home/origami

I am not able to get through to this address.  Is it really correct?

                  Many thanks,

*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|                  Mark.Casida@umontreal.ca             |





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 14:39:17 -0800
Subject: Re: talking mouth

Howard,

Enquiring mouths want to know...was it a Shari Lewis book?

Dorothy





From: good man <jess2800@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:51:20 -0500
Subject: Polyhedra

Hi
It would be a great help if you would E-mail a copy of the spreadsheet
to me. Looking forward to it. What a nice offer--thank you.
                             Jess
Sory I couldn't get your addy right so am sending it throuh the list.





From: Howard Portugal <howardp@FAST.NET>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:08:01 -0500
Subject: Re: talking mouth

If anyone's interested, I found the model when I was browsing through a
Barnes & Nobel store yesterday. It was however called a coaster and I
forgot the book name. I'll describe it in words for anyone who's
interested.

Start with a square
Valley fold both diagonals to obtain an X
Book fold (fold in half horizontally)
Book fold again on the same axis so as to divide the paper in quarters (4
equal columns)
Open out completely
Hold the paper so that you have the diagonals as valleys and the quartering
folds horizontal
Fold the bottom quarter up along the existing crease
Fold the top quarter behind along the existing crease
Inside reverse the lower left and right corners along the existing creases
Fold the top left and right corners down to the center crease
Fold the top half down along the center crease and tuck into the bottom
half trapping the reversed bottom corners inside
You should now have a boat like thing with creases on one side going from
the corners to the center
Fold all layers along these 2 creases to make them appear on both sides of
the boat

Optional lips:
    Hold the boat horizontally with the opening at the top
    Make a small vertical cut or tear through all layers at the top center
of the boat
    Valley fold a small triangular flap from the bottom of the cut/tear to
each corner (total of 4 flaps, 2 per side)

Pull the sides of the boat outward while bringing the tips together this
will make the model into a 3d mouth-like thing
Put your thumb on the bottom and middle finger on top and use them to open
and shut the mouth
The mouth will spring open better if you use heavier (towards card stock
weight) paper

Have fun,

Howard
--
Howard Portugal, West Chester, PA email:howardp@fast.net
---------------------------------------------------
"A problem worthy of attack, proves its worth by fighting back."
Author Unknown





From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@KIMSCRANE.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:10:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Russian Web Site

I too was unable to get through to this site.
Sincerely,
Kimberly Crane
http://www.kimscrane.com

Casida Mark wrote:

> > The URL is:
> >     http://www.comm.ru/home/origami
>
> I am not able to get through to this address.  Is it really correct?
>
>                   Many thanks,
>
> *-------------------------------------------------------*
> |          Mark E. Casida                               |
> |                  Mark.Casida@umontreal.ca             |





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:19:22 +0000
Subject: Polyhedra

Hello,

        If anyone is interested, I have an Excel spreadsheet that will
calculate the paper sizes for the flat polygon units in Origami Omnibus.

        Those interested, please send e-mail privately and I'll send the
spreadsheet to you. Another option would be to put it on a Web page as
mine is currently out of service. Any offers?

        Happy Hogmanay,
                        Dennis





From: Thies de Waard <twaard@C.ECUA.NET.EC>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:41:17 -0500
Subject: Napkin Folding?

Hi,

Tomorrow I have (to organize) a belated christmass dinner, and
want to show the machos here (I'm living in Ecuador currently) that
paperfolding is not only for women. A folded napkin might serve the
puspose; does anyone know of any webpages were I can find
diagrams for napkin folding?

Thanks a lot, and a very happy New Year,

Thies de Waard
----------------------------------
Thies de Waard
Apartado Postal 01-01-862
Cuenca, ECUADOR
+593-7-822052 (thuis/home/casa)
+593-7-840254 (werk/office/oficina)
Ik heb nu slechts =E9=E9n email-adres/
I now have only one email address/
Ahora solo tengo una direcci=F3n de correo electr=F3nico:
twaard@c.ecua.net.ec





From: Nancy Hulen <nhulen@SOCKETS.NET>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:02:28 -0600
Subject: Re: Russian Web Site

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Is this the Russian site?&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.origami.ru/">http://www.origami.ru/</a><br>
<br>
It has some fantastic photographs.<br>
<br>
<BR>
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Hulen&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb
     sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
(660) 665-8061</div>
<div>906 East
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     p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Kirksville,&nbsp; MO.&nbsp; 63501
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From: "Jerry D. Harris" <102354.2222@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:40:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Russian Web Site

Message text written by Origami List
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>     http://www.comm.ru/home/origami

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From: Howard Portugal <howardp@FAST.NET>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:48:44 -0500
Subject: Re: talking mouth

Nope

Dorothy Engleman wrote:

> Howard,
>
> Enquiring mouths want to know...was it a Shari Lewis book?
>
> Dorothy

--
Howard Portugal, West Chester, PA email:howardp@fast.net
---------------------------------------------------
"A problem worthy of attack, proves its worth by fighting back."
Author Unknown





From: Tricia Tait <tait@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:10:47 -0500
Subject: Russian Web page

You might try:

http://www.icomm.ru/home/origami   for the newly designed, colorful
site.

Regards,
Tricia Tait





From: "<Ryan Becker>" <RyBecker@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:18:08 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Russian Web Site

Try http://www.icomm.ru/home/origami/.

Ryan





From: "WILLIAM F. SINDEL" <CISSITT@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:21:38 -0500
Subject: looking for missouri members

I am looking for members of this list who live in Missouri, particularly
St. Louis.
Carly Issitt





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:43:23 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Russian Web Site

In a message dated 98-12-30 17:19:17 EST, you write:

>
>  Casida Mark wrote:
>
>  > > The URL is:
>  > >     http://www.comm.ru/home/origami

Sure looks like that should be .com. w/o the double m.
Just a guess.
-- Kenneth Kawamura                kenny1414@aol.com





From: Kenny1414@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:57:32 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Russian Web Site

In a message dated 98-12-30 17:19:17 EST, you write:

> http://www.comm.ru/home/origami

I just got:

Unknown Host

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Description: Could not resolve the host "www.com.ru" in the URL "
http://www.com.ru/home/origami".
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Traffic Server version 1.1.7

So I was wrong about .com. .
-- Kenneth Kawamura                   kenny1414@aol.com





From: Deborah and Paul Connell <connellp@WANTREE.COM.AU>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:44:36 +0800
Subject: Re: Russian Web Site

Mark,

I have tried several times to get through
to the Russian Web site and have never had
any success.

Deb Connell
Perth
Western Australia





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:18:45 +0000
Subject: More highlights at the BOS site

Just a reminder that highlights from issues 140-149 of British Origami
are online, including the following;

The sincerity of Folding #1 by Dave Mitchell (BO 140)
The sincerity of Folding #2 by Dave Mitchell (BO 141)
Spring into Action Model by Jeff Beynon (BO 142)
10 Classic fold choices by Dave Brill (BO 143)
Airmail: October 1990 - Report from Hungary (BO 144)
10 Classic fold choices from Rick Beech (BO 145)
Folding method for a heptagon by Humi Huzita (BO 146)
Paper Folding in Ancient China (BO 147)
Because it's There: Idiot Savant - Robert Lang (BO 148)
Japanese Origami in Denmark - Clare Chamberlain (BO 149)

Plus, I've added a few more diagrams to my homepage

www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk

If people could add it to their list of origami links I'd be grateful.

Happy Noo Year!

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/





From: Katharina Grif <Katharina.Grif@UIBK.AC.AT>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 11:10:35 +0100
Subject: Russian Web Site

The right URL of russian origami web site is :
   http://www.icomm.ru/home/origami

Katharina :)





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:06:52 -0800
Subject: Off to London

I'm leaving in a few hours to spend a week in London (England, that is). Any
list difficulties should be addressed to <origami-request@mit.edu> and Anne
LaVin will take care of things in my absence. "See" you in a week!
----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:24:30 -0600
Subject: Re: One legged Demon

A little late.

But I looked at that page
http://www.ingjapan.or.jp/kojpclass/kojpclass/Ghost.htm
<http://www.ingjapan.or.jp/kojpclass/kojpclass/Ghost.htm> .

If you haven't looked at that yet GET THERE QUICK !

That is truly bizarre.  I will have to buy the Tanteidan book just for that
model.  Does it open and close ?

I do WINDOWS but I don't do windows.
B R E T T

> It's a creature from Japanese folk tales. It's called the "hitotsu me
kozo"
> (one-eyed <something>). It's basically an umbrella (bamboo & paper
umbrella)
> with one eye, one leg, and two arms. Its tongue sticks out.





From: Glenda Scott <gdscott@OWT.COM>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:19:46 -0800
Subject: Russian site

The Russian site is: http://www.icomm.ru/home/origami/

Glenda Scott





From: "Sandra P. Hoffman" <ghidra@IGS.NET>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:54:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Russian Web Site

To the people who have been trying this and not getting it. There is a
period after the slash. You need the final slash and period to get
through to the site. It is beautiful but slow to load with a 14.4 modem.

sph

On 30 Dec 98, at 21:18, Ryan Becker wrote:

> Try http://www.icomm.ru/home/origami/.
>
> Ryan
>

---------------
Sandra P. Hoffman
ghidra@igs.net
http://www.flora.org/sandra/





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 21:30:16 -0500 (
Subject: Re: No mail....

all of a sudden I have no mail from Origami-L.  Have I been signed
off.Dorigami@aol.com





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 00:10:37 -0600
Subject: Re: No mail....

DORIGAMI@AOL.COM wrote:

> all of a sudden I have no mail from Origami-L.  Have I been signed
> off.Dorigami@aol.com

Nah just the holidays!

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 02:15:30 -0500
Subject: Re: looking for missouri members

Hi all,

I just wanted to let you all know that I have added two models to the
simple section of my webpage:

http://marckrsh.home.pipeline.com/

Although the models are simple, solving them might not be (these are
puzzles). The challenge is to form the initials of my name from the pieces
provided. The "M" puzzle is easier than the "K" one. If you are truly
stumped, I can e-mail the solutions. Oh yeah, Happy New Year!

Marc





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 02:17:27 -0500
Subject: Webpage update

Hi all,

I just wanted to let you all know that I have added two models to the
simple section of my webpage:

http://marckrsh.home.pipeline.com/

Although the models are simple, solving them might not be (these are
puzzles). The challenge is to form the initials of my name from the pieces
provided. The "M" puzzle is easier than the "K" one. If you are truly
stumped, I can e-mail the solutions. Oh yeah, Happy New Year!

Marc

P.S. sorry for sending this again, but the last message had the wrong
subject field info.





From: Saliers <msaliers@HOME.COM>
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 17:23:19 -0800
Subject: Jester's hat

A rather poorly designed, executed, and documented "Jester's Hat" will be
available at the following site for about two more weeks:

  http://www.saliers.addr.com/origami/jh/jester.htm

Maybe it will inspire someone else to design a good one.

Mark

---------------------------------------------------------------
P.S.

The Origami Dimensions web site has just been updated and the "submission"
page re-instated:

  http://www.saliers.addr.com/origami/orgdims.shtml





From: Bugly <amyg@AZSTARNET.COM>
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 21:05:19 -0700
Subject: Origami Sighting

I don't know if this will be interesting to anyone else, but while I was
eating dinner at a Japanese restaurant and one of the waitresses was wearing
a kimono with an origami crane print. Having never seen such a beautiful
piece of clothing I was tempted to ask where the fabric came from, but since
she was working a different table, I was unable to ask.

If anyone has any ideas on where one could this kind of fabric, I know I'd
be interested.

        Bugly





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 22:12:35 -0800
Subject: Re: Jester's hat

Mark Saliers wrote:

"A rather poorly designed, executed, and documented "Jester's Hat" will
be available at the following site for about two more weeks:
=A0
http://www.saliers.addr.com/origami/jh/jester.htm

Maybe it will inspire someone else to design a good one."

Surely you jest, Mark?   I found it a clever and entertaining model with
great looking diagrams!

By loyal decree,  it is requested that you not remove the diagrams.

Dorothy





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 06:31:53 -0800
Subject: Re: help for a french guy

Chong Kwai Fun wrote: ... a stiffener is actually a type of cloth ... snip

This type of material is also known as interfacing in the U.S. Much of it
     manufactured by a company named PELLON. I thought it was available here in
     yard good shops only with a heat activated adhesive or a pressure
     sensitive adhesive -- did not know it wa
  available in a water activated form.. Do any tailors in the group know if it
     is indeed avilable in water based form? I have the Pellon catalog around
     somewhere and will look it up and report to the group if nobdy knows
     offhand.





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:53:33 -0800
Subject: Re: help for a french guy

Florence Temko wrote: .. I have successfully used "Fabric Stiffener and Liquid
Fabric Draping" by Aleene.  ...snip

Aleene's also have an iron-on fusible web and there is another water based
stiffener called "STIFFY" in retail craft stores.

Martin R. Carbone





From: Chong Kwai Fun <jasmine@DLSJUBM.COM.MY>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 08:24:24 +0800
Subject: Re: help for a french guy

a stiffener is actually a type of cloth that is layered with a layer of =
starch. You can't get it from the grocery but from shops that are =
selling tailoring stuff e.g. buttons and laces. Before using the =
stiffener on the tissue you'll have to wet the stiffener with water (on =
the starch layer only) and then iron it on to the tissue. Once it's =
stucked on the tissue then the tissue will harden and i think from there =
you can start folding boxes. Hope this information comes handy for u. =
Sorry for the late reply.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Cyrille Pr=E9aux [SMTP:cyrille.preaux@ACCESINTERNET.COM]
Sent:   Thursday, December 24, 1998 8:27 PM
To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        help for a french guy

please can u explain me what is a stiffener?
i saw a web site doing so beautiful boxes using tissue foil stiffed by a
stiffener
i understood that it was a sort of glue but i'm not sure. If it is
effectivelly glue how can i explain it to my grocery store???

thanks for help cause that 's the only origami my girlfriend wiukd =
keep..;-)





From: Florence Temko <Ftemko@AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 09:57:39 -0500 (
Subject: Re: help for a french guy

On jewelry I have successfully used "Fabric Stiffener and Liquid Fabric
Draping" by Aleene. It is available at most craft stores, such as Michaels
here in California. Its consistency is much like white glue and comes in a
plastic  bottle. It's very easy to use, as it does not have to be mixed, but
can be thinned with water if desired.

All best from Florence Temko.





From: Marcia Mau <maumoy@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 11:49:05 -0800 (
Subject: Request for Flapping Birds

I am appealing to members of the origami list for contributions of
flapping birds.  My Dad, Edward Seu Chen Mau, died January 1st at the
age of 84.  During his hospitalization I made four flapping birds to
decorate his room.  Two of them disappeared.  I was amazed on Dec 3rd
that he spent about 40 minutes observing and examining and reexamining
one of the flapping birds.

We are planning two memorial services for him.  On January 16th, we will
have a private service in Maryland and I would like to have about 50
cranes to give to people who attend.  Around February 20th, we plan
to have a larger memorial service in Honolulu, Hawaii.  I would like to
have 300 to 400 cranes to give out.

If you can help with the folding, I would be most appreciative.  My
suggestion is any 6" or smaller paper including memo cubes.  My address
is: Marcia Mau, 1612 Mont Morency Dr, Vienna, VA 22182 USA.  I will need
the cranes by Feb 12th.

Thank you.

Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA

______________________________________________________
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From: Edith Kort <ekort@MCLS.ROCHESTER.LIB.NY.US>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:07:48 -0500
Subject: Origami Crane Fabrics

I saw several fabrics at USA Conference in NYC.  One of the vendors sold
vests (I think) made from the fabric.  Someone told me that the fabric
was available at some west coast up-scale fabric shops and cost $20 per
yard and up.  The Boston Museum of Art sells a crane tie - so they must
also have a source of fabric.





From: "Moreland, Linda D" <linda.d.moreland@LMCO.COM>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:43:06 -0800
Subject: History of icada figure folding

I am trying to get information on the history behind the Cicada folding. I
realize it is a bug and there are variations.  Would anyone be able to help
me with some background? My son has chosen to fold this and needs to include
the history for a report. Most books just show how to draw the figure with
no background.  Thanks for any help you can give me.





From: Meristein@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:38:45 -0500 (
Subject: Re: help for a french guy

Pellon is heat-fusible web, available in yard-good stores. I have never seen
or heard of a water activated form.

I think what happened in the explanation (a notre ami francais) is that
"stiffener" may not have been specified as to type. One major type is the
fabric-like Pellon; then you get into the liquid stiffeners which have the
consistency of white glue and actually permeate the fabric to perform their
stiffening functions when they are dry. (see Florence's post for brand names).

Hope this helped.

Merida





From: Marcia Mau <maumoy@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:43:54 -0800 (
Subject: Clarification of Request for Traditional Flapping Birds

I'm sorry for the confusion in my earlier email.  I meant the
traditional flapping bird which is the BOS logo - basically a
traditional crane w/out the wings narrowed.  If you prefer folding the
traditional crane that would be fine, too as it is a symbol of peace.
Any color or pattern of paper is fine.  I would like a variety to give
to people who attend the services.  I will donate any remaining birds
to a senior center  or nursing center.

A bit of my origami history which is intertwined with my father's
employment overseas in the Foreign Service.  A friend of the family, Dr
Samuel Kimura was an opthalmologist w/ University of California San
Francisco.  He stopped in Honolulu, Hawaii in the early 1950's after
working w/ the hibakusha (Atomic Bomb Victims) in Hiroshima.  He showed
us a crane.  I didn't learn it then and don't remember if it was a
traditional crane or one that flapped.  I did learn to fold the crane in
sixth grade in 1959 when a classmate taught it to us.

We moved from Iran to Indonesia in 1959.  Our glass Christmas ornaments
were in transit - on the dock in Iran.  On my way to Indonesia, my
mother and I stopped in Tokyo where I purchased Florence Sakade's Book 1
and Book 2.  When we arrived in Jakarta I decorated our tree w/ origami
- my first origami tree.

When I was a junior in high school in New Delhi, India the theme for our
junior senior prom (dance) was the Emperor's Ball.  We made hundreds of
cranes and suspended them individually from the ceiling of Roosevelt
House, the American Ambassador's residence which was designed by Edward
Durrell Stone.  I must have had a hand in teaching the crane to
classmates.  I hope someone somewhere has a picture of the "crane"
ceiling.

When my father graduated from high school in Honolulu, he joined a
contingent of Hawaii born young men of Chinese descent who attended St.
John's University in Shanghai in the 1930's.  Although he did not
graduate from St. John's he belonged to their alumni assn in the
Washington area.  I would like to think that my finding the Shanghai
Star in 1985 was somehow related to the time he spent in that city.  To
bring you up-to-date, I visited Shanghai in November.  I went to the
Arts and Crafts Institute where I had found the Shanghai Star with hopes
of learning more about the model.  To my disappointment, the Institute
has really "gone commercial" and I couldn't find anyone interested in
telling me more about the model. On the other hand, I was very excited
to see some examples of ribbon weaving when we visited a Children's
Palace in Shanghai.

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From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 19:06:29 -0500
Subject: A Few Sightings

For collectors of such things:

The _Portland Press Herald_ (Portland, ME) printed directions for a
traditional
"printer's cap" on a sheet of brown "kraft" paper that it used to hold
together all
the advertising flyers on Christmas. They did it again a few days later, I
think.

When I got back from my Christmas vacation, I found a strip from "Rhymes
with
Orange" by Hilary Price taped to my desk. The strip (dated 12/26/98) says
"Bonsai-gami: the lost Oriental art of tiny tree folding" and the
illustrations
use non-standard diagrams to show how to twist a bonsai tree into a wreath
for your door. I don't know what paper this was printed in. Probably the
_Boston Globe_. Can any Bostonians confirm?

Typing this made me remember that I forgot to mark the origami reference in
Lois McMaster Bujold's _Memory_ yesterday. I'll have to go find it. I hope
that's the book it was in. I'll admit that I dipped into quite a few over
the long
weekend.

Happy New Year!

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 22:54:35 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Clarification of Request for Traditional Flapping Birds

MARCIA, I AM SORRY TO  HEAR ABOUT YOUR FATHER...I WAS DEVASTATED WHEN I LOST
MY FATHER WHEN I WAS JUST 21.   HE WAS THE BEST FRIEND I EVER HAD AND MY
SOULMATE.  YOU DID NOT GIVE YOUR ADDRESS OR WHERE TO SEND THE CRANES.....I
WOULD LOVE TO CONTRIBUTE.





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 23:57:27 -0600
Subject: new model

Hi all,
I just finished diagramming and posting a Dollar fold called Buck
the Bunny,
I hope you enjoy it!  First of the new year and my model for
January.
In case no one noticed, I have been trying to get up a new model
at least once a month!

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 08:35:58 +0800
Subject: Origami Crane Fabrics

Those of you seeking origami crane material could try good patchwork shops -
many now carry Japanese inspired prints, and some even specialise in
Japanese imports.
Those who have access to friends in Japan may even be able to get crane
underwear!
Another alternative is rubber stamps - I have seen a couple of origami crane
designs.
On another matter, many have asked for details on the Paul Jackson book I
mentioned some time ago.  It's Tricks and Games with Paper, published by
Angus and Robertson (Australia/UK) in 1985.  It was one of a series that
included two paper plane books by Campbell Morris and a Cat's Cradle book.
Finally, on stiffening fabrics, I have used stuff from IKEA that is for
stiffening fabrics for making roller blinds - not tried it for folding, but
the blind is still great after 6 years - just realised that the Japanese
fabric is of little Japanese girls with origami cranes......





From: Dahlia Schwartz <dahlias@BU.EDU>
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 14:34:46 +0000
Subject: Re: Origami Crane Fabrics

There was recently an offering of an origami crane dress in one of those
public tv / radio catalogs (wireless or signals).  If I come across it
again, I'll let you know which.

Dahlia (after a long absence from this wonderful list)





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 15:38:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Origami Crane Fabrics

> There was recently an offering of an origami crane dress in one of those
> public tv / radio catalogs (wireless or signals).  If I come across it
> again, I'll let you know which.

Welcome back Dahlia!

As for crane clothing, I have a wonderful vest that I bought from Amy
Funabiki, at the '98 OUSA Annual Convention.  I think it is the same
fabric/pattern vest that I've seen Mark Kennedy wearing at conventions.  I
know Amy has email, but I can't find the address, if you want it, email me
privately and I'll hunt it up.  I recall there were several people selling
fabricy things at the convention in years past, but I do not recall who they
were.  You know, this is just the kind of thing that would be cool to be able
to find on the OUSA website.

-D'gou





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 17:30:53 -0500 (
Subject: Re: princeton group meeting at Dots

Dont forget the Princeton meeting at Dots in Freehold, N. J. on January 10,
l999, Sunday if you belong.





From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:27:29 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Origami Crane Fabrics

Dear all,

My sister, Amy Funabiki, sold items sewn from various origami fabrics at the
OUSA convention this year and the past two years.  If anyone is interested in
her items or just the fabric, please contact her at:  kikibiki@aol.com

She has samples and a brochure.  She also takes special orders and custom
sizes the clothing to fit!  And yes, Mark Kennedy has one of her vests!

Sincerely,

June Sakamoto





From: "WILLIAM F. SINDEL" <CISSITT@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 20:53:02 -0500
Subject: origami earrings and ornaments

For anyone who may have been looking for a way to stiffen small origami
masterpieces, I found that clear nail polish is most effective. The past
two christmases I made tiny kimonos, butterflies, and angelfish into
earrings and ornaments, and used a few coats of clear nail polish to
preserve them, make them shiny, and protect them from dirt.  There are some
high quality papers which are so pourous that they will take several coats,
but when done they look fabulous!
Carly
cissitt@compuserve.com





From: Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 22:01:43 +0000
Subject: Anime designs

I have been asked to contribute an origami model for a booklet for
an 'anime' (Japanese animation) convention. I am trying to design
a Gundam robot but if anyone has already designed or knows of an
easy/intermediate anime related model could they please mail me.





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 22:32:05 -0500
Subject: Comming through clear?

Hi all,

This is not exactly an origami related message, but I could use some help
regarding my origami page (http:/marckrsh.home.pipeline.com). As far as I
can tell, the page is running smoothly, but I just heard that someone using
Internet Explorer on a Macintosh was unable to load my page. I found this
to be odd, as my page is extremely simple by webpage standards. If anyone
has a problem running any portion of my page please let me know what sort
of system you are using to access it so I can investigate the problem.
Please e-mail me privatle (marckrsh@pipeline.com) and not to this list.
Thank  you in advance, Marc





From: Doris.L@T-ONLINE.DE
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 23:56:00 +0100
Subject: Paper in New York

If you are looking for paper in New York, try this address:

Paper Access
23 Est 18th Street
New York, NY 10011
Fone: 212 463 7035
Fax: 212 463 7022
http:// www.paperaccess.com

Enjoy the paper
Doris





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cyrille_Pr=E9aux?= <cyrille.preaux@ACCESINTERNET.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:45:10 +0100
Subject: Tr: Comming through clear?

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Cyrille Pr=E9aux <genlyon@worldnet.fr>
=C0 : Origami List <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date : January, Thursday 7, 1999 09:42
Objet : Re: Comming through clear?

>I asked a friend of mine to look at your source code and find this line
>
>
>
><META NAME=3D"Template" CONTENT=3D"C:\Program Files\Microsoft
>Office\Templates\Web Pages\WEB PAGE WIZARD.WIZ">
>
>
>i think that your page as been generated by word and it's ot in "standar=
d"
>java...
>
>that mean that u may correct the problem by rewriting your page with
>standard instruction
>
>hope this help...
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>>Internet Explorer on a Macintosh was unable to load my page. I found .
>>Thank  you in advance, Marc





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 12:17:15 -0500
Subject: Book Question?

I was just browsing B&N and saw this. Interesting title, just wondering if
anybody has any idea what this book is about?

Inverse Origami:The Art of Unfolding (Mar Walker, 0966486404).

Thanks, Jeff Kerwood





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 22:57:56 -0600
Subject: Re: Eric Joisel diagrams

Darren Scott wrote:

> Does anybody know where i can get Eric Joisel diagrams I've folded
> his rat and seen the photos on Joseph Wu's page.
>
> Hope someone can help

Did you want to find diagrams for the Rat or for some of Joisels other
models?  and if so what other models?

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 00:00:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Eric Joisel diagrams

At 03:03 PM 1/8/99 +0000, Darren Scott <Darren.Scott@SCI.MONASH.EDU.AU> wrote:
>Does anybody know where i can get Eric Joisel diagrams I've folded
>his rat and seen the photos on Joseph Wu's page.

Some of his models were featured in the recent French convention books. I
am not sure if they are still available, and I am not sure as to how to go
about getting them. The adress should be published in OrigamiUSA's "The Paper."

Marc





From: Darren Scott <Darren.Scott@SCI.MONASH.EDU.AU>
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 15:03:39 +0000
Subject: Eric Joisel diagrams

Does anybody know where i can get Eric Joisel diagrams I've folded
his rat and seen the photos on Joseph Wu's page.

Hope someone can help

Darren





From: Darren Scott <Darren.Scott@SCI.MONASH.EDU.AU>
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:31:02 +0000
Subject: Re: Eric Joisel diagrams

>
> Did you want to find diagrams for the Rat or for some of Joisels other
> models?  and if so what other models?
>
> Perry
>
I have the Rat diagrams looking for any thing else (heghogs if
possible)

darren





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 06:38:49 -1000
Subject: Re: origami earrings and ornaments.

Japanese product "tsuyadashi", an acrylic lacquer, available at Kim's
Cranes works best for me.  I use washi.   Aloha, Jan





From: lnahbyrd <lnahbyrd@ONRAMP.NET>
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 07:18:56 -0600
Subject: Re: Clarification of Request for Traditional Flapping Birds

We will be sending you many flapping cranes on Monday, you should get them
Tuesday or Wednesday. Our origami group sends our condolances, but we are
glad to be able to help.
     Ahliana Byrd

At 06:43 PM 1/4/99 PST, you wrote:
>I'm sorry for the confusion in my earlier email.  I meant the
>traditional flapping bird which is the BOS logo - basically a
>traditional crane w/out the wings narrowed.  If you prefer folding the
>traditional crane that would be fine, too as it is a symbol of peace.
>Any color or pattern of paper is fine.  I would like a variety to give
>to people who attend the services.  I will donate any remaining birds
>to a senior center  or nursing center.
>
>A bit of my origami history which is intertwined with my father's
>employment overseas in the Foreign Service.  A friend of the family, Dr
>Samuel Kimura was an opthalmologist w/ University of California San
>Francisco.  He stopped in Honolulu, Hawaii in the early 1950's after
>working w/ the hibakusha (Atomic Bomb Victims) in Hiroshima.  He showed
>us a crane.  I didn't learn it then and don't remember if it was a
>traditional crane or one that flapped.  I did learn to fold the crane in
>sixth grade in 1959 when a classmate taught it to us.
>
>We moved from Iran to Indonesia in 1959.  Our glass Christmas ornaments
>were in transit - on the dock in Iran.  On my way to Indonesia, my
>mother and I stopped in Tokyo where I purchased Florence Sakade's Book 1
>and Book 2.  When we arrived in Jakarta I decorated our tree w/ origami
>- my first origami tree.
>
>When I was a junior in high school in New Delhi, India the theme for our
>junior senior prom (dance) was the Emperor's Ball.  We made hundreds of
>cranes and suspended them individually from the ceiling of Roosevelt
>House, the American Ambassador's residence which was designed by Edward
>Durrell Stone.  I must have had a hand in teaching the crane to
>classmates.  I hope someone somewhere has a picture of the "crane"
>ceiling.
>
>When my father graduated from high school in Honolulu, he joined a
>contingent of Hawaii born young men of Chinese descent who attended St.
>John's University in Shanghai in the 1930's.  Although he did not
>graduate from St. John's he belonged to their alumni assn in the
>Washington area.  I would like to think that my finding the Shanghai
>Star in 1985 was somehow related to the time he spent in that city.  To
>bring you up-to-date, I visited Shanghai in November.  I went to the
>Arts and Crafts Institute where I had found the Shanghai Star with hopes
>of learning more about the model.  To my disappointment, the Institute
>has really "gone commercial" and I couldn't find anyone interested in
>telling me more about the model. On the other hand, I was very excited
>to see some examples of ribbon weaving when we visited a Children's
>Palace in Shanghai.
>
>
>
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From: Casida Mark <casida@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA>
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 15:02:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Eric Joisel diagrams

> I have the Rat diagrams looking for any thing else (heghogs if
> possible)
>
> darren

Hi Darren,

>From where did you obtain the Rat diagrams?  Are they published
somewhere?

                          All the best,
                                Mark

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