




From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 07:28:07 +0900
Subject: Re: Gamera

I wrestled with the diagrams and finally I managed to fold
the model Gamera. All thing you have to is to read diagrams,
not Japanese. Diagrams are the universal language, right?
But we can say "What difficult diagrams they are!".

> I have been working through the models from the Tanteidan 3 book.  I was able
> to fold all but the Gamera model.  The diagrams for this model are not as
     clear
> as the others.  I was wondering if anyone has translated the
> text of this model, and if so could you pass the translation on to me?
> Thanks in advance,
> Jason C. Troye

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From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:27:04 -0500 (
Subject: Fwd: 1000 Cranes

Here's the final update on the 1,000 cranes project for Jay, the teenager with
cancer.  It appears that Kathleen is nearing the total mark and would like to
thank all those that participated.  Thanks everyone for your quick response!

Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:04:34 -0500 (EST)
From: PaulBek670@aol.com
Subject: 1000 Cranes
To: Foldmaster@aol.com

        Dear June:

Two more thoughtful folders have sent me lovely cranes. . . Aimee in Hawaii
and Edith in New York.  On Saturday I sent 500 cranes strung in groups of 20.
Susan has started a folding craze at her school during the lunch period so I
expect that by next Saturday I'll be able to send another 500.  This has
created a new awareness of Origami among her teachers and her scout leader.  I
expect Jay will receive this first box of cranes shortly and I'll let you know
his reaction.  My heartfelt thanks to all the wonderful people who have made
this project possible.

Love,
Kathleen





From: "Wu, Sonia" <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:16:56 -0500
Subject: Re: paper questions

I believe "papier de soie" would translate as "paper of silk," but that
may mean the paper is silk-like rather than actually made of silk.  Then
again, it's been about 14 years since my last French class....

Sonia Wu
(Florida)





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cyrille_Pr=E9aux?= <cyrille.preaux@ACCESINTERNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:03:16 +0100
Subject: Re: paper questions

>Hello,
>I have two questions about paper.
>1.  Is there any paper that is more tear resistant than others?
>    (praying mantis problems)
>

I'm using a self maid paper ...

One sheet of "papier de soie"
(i don't know the word for it in english if someone can translate) this is a
very thin paper witch is used to design dresses...
i glue it to a aluminium paper (used in food package)
and i glue an other sheet of "papier de soie"

the result is very interesting . you can make very precise folds, and when
the model is finished u can give the shape u want (volume effect) as this
paper holds very well the shapes. This paper resist to time and the only
problem is the size... i can't find a larger sheet than 30 cm (about  14
inches i think)...

For the praying mantis i used a A2 sheet of printing paper bit the result
was not quite nice...

I saw many description of how to make is own paper on this list but i 've
never quite understand as i don't understand all specific words as foil, or
the different words for glue etc.. but if u are english u can search the
archive (access it by joseph wu site)...

hope this help

Cyrille

if someone else is making is paper like me please tell how u do it
technically speaking





From: ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:48:15 +0100
Subject: New on-line store for Origami Paper

Hi !!!

            The site for a new manufacturer of OrigamiPaper is finally ready
!!!

            Here is the link  http://www.origamipaper.com/

            I think Peter Budai already commented on the quality and type of
paper in a previous mail to the list.

                cheers,

                                Ariel

PS: I hope not to have repeated any other email on the same subject of this
new site





From: hecht <hecht@MCI2000.COM>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:26:05 -0800
Subject: freehand

Anyone know how I can purchase Macromedia's Freehand 8 for a less than the
$400 they're asking?  It's a wonderful product, but that seems a bit steep.

--steve





From: Alasdair Post-Quinn <acpquinn@PANTHER.MIDDLEBURY.EDU>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:04:29 -0500
Subject: Re: freehand

At 11:26 AM 12/15/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Anyone know how I can purchase Macromedia's Freehand 8 for a less than the
>$400 they're asking?  It's a wonderful product, but that seems a bit steep.

i got my copy of freehand 5 (a while ago) for $110, which was the
educational discount. perhaps you can do the same if you have a friend at a
university or something.

peace,
alasdair





From: Marcia Mau <maumoy@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:43:06 -0800 (
Subject: Papier du soie

I've seen tissue paper sold as papier du soie in the US.

Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA

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From: "Jerry D. Harris" <102354.2222@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:11:49 -0500
Subject: freehand

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From: Donna & Robin <robin@RGLYNN.KEME.CO.UK>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:51:48 +0000
Subject: Re: dividing paper into thirds

I know lots of fancy ways to get thirds from a square but I always
go back to rolling the paper into 3 and not making any creases until
I think it is right. I also do this for fifths. Any dimensions more obscure
than this and I use a ruler and a well placed thumbnail.





From: Dino Andreozzi <dion@HEM.PASSAGEN.SE>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 03:24:10 +0100
Subject: Pictures from the latest CDO convention

Dear Folders,
I have just finished to download some pictures I took at the Italian Origami
     Convention in Castel San Pietro Terme (near Bologna). The URL there you
     can find the pictures is:
http://www.origami.net/homes/sweeden/andrahtml/photo.htm
I hope you will enjoy them. I had a great time with the members of the CDO, all
     of them and I'm looking forward to meet them again next year in Italy.

Regards

Dino Andreozzi





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <102354.2222@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:19:30 -0500
Subject: Re: freehand

Message text written by Origami List
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<

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From: Michael Belehradek <mbelehradek@CNC.SK>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:27:05 +0100
Subject: folding angle

Hello

I recently tried to fold pentagonal star box by hacking Fuse's hexagonal
star box.
In hexagonal box the angle you have to fold is 60 degrees and it is easy.
But when you want to fold pentagonal box you have to chane angle to 54
degrees.
Do you know please any method to fold 54 degrees angle from 90 degrees?
I had to guess it.... Anyway it worked but I'd like to know exact solution
Thank you very much

                                                Michael





From: Jorma Oksanen <tenu@SCI.FI>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:02:02 +0200
Subject: Re: dividing paper into thirds--once

On 14-Dec-98, Campbell, Jennifer (CampbellJ@DFO-MPO.GC.CA) wrote:

>This year (as in the past) for Christmas ornaments I'm folding the
>angel at the back of Origami Omnibus, which requires an angular
>division into thirds.

It doesn't have to be exact third, just use the middle crease to make
wings symmetric.

--
Jorma "Kasahara ruulz!" Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi

Weyland-Yutani - Building Better Worlds





From: Darren Scott <Darren.Scott@SCI.MONASH.EDU.AU>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:47:48 +0000
Subject: Re: freehand

> Message text written by Origami List
> >Anyone know how I can purchase Macromedia's Freehand 8 for a less than the
> $400 they're asking?  It's a wonderful product, but that seems a bit steep.
> <
>
>         Yes -- if you've got a friend at a fairly large university, you can
> probably get the "student version" (which is, as far as I can tell,
> identical to the non-student version) for under $200, maybe even under
> $150!
>
The only difference is the student version can't be upgraded if you
need another copy then you must buy the whole thing again.

Darren





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:28:19 -0800
Subject: Re: folding angle

At 09:27 98/12/16 +0100, you wrote:
>I recently tried to fold pentagonal star box by hacking Fuse's hexagonal
>star box.
>In hexagonal box the angle you have to fold is 60 degrees and it is easy.
>But when you want to fold pentagonal box you have to chane angle to 54
>degrees.
>Do you know please any method to fold 54 degrees angle from 90 degrees?
>I had to guess it.... Anyway it worked but I'd like to know exact solution
>Thank you very much

Winson Chan has already designed a pentagonal star box (before Fuse's
hexagonal box was published). Time to pester him to diagram it. (It's so
nice to be on the other end of the nag gun...8)

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: "Charles M. Heron" <cheron@ICHIPS.INTEL.COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:05:17 -0800
Subject: Re: folding a square in thirds

According to OftC (I forget who's quote it was...
and what page... Kawasaki?) the best way to fold
thirds is to approximate by forming an S shape
with the paper and then working/creasing it so the
edges all line up.
(They said it better, and had a picture)

It takes a little practice, but it works pretty
well, and it's quick. (for those of us in a hurry)

-charles

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Doug Philips wrote:

> Eric Eros indited:
>
> >         The best souce I know of for methods of dividing the sides of a
> > square is:
> >
> > http://www.ask.or.jp/~origami/t/People/CAGE_/divide/index-e.html
>
> Agreed, that is a great source.  Aside from the parallel lines method that
> Jeff Kerwood excerpted from the archives, I prefer NOMA's method (from the URL
> listed above) as it only puts the tiniest of creases on the edge of the square
> -AND- it gives you a real mark on the edge of the paper too.  HAGA's method
> uses less pinch marks, put you get your result as overlapping edges of the
> square, which is hard to be accurate with if you do not crease the square and
> besides, you still have to use a pen or thumbnail crease to mark where the
> edges overlap.
>
> -D'gou





From: Casida Mark <casida@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:42:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Pictures from the latest CDO convention

>
> Dear Folders,
> I have just finished to download some pictures I took at the Italian Origami
     Convention in Castel San Pietro Terme (near Bologna). The URL there you
     can find the pictures is:
> http://www.origami.net/homes/sweeden/andrahtml/photo.htm
> I hope you will enjoy them. I had a great time with the members of the CDO,
     all of them and I'm looking forward to meet them again next year in Italy.
>
> Regards
>
> Dino Andreozzi
>

Wow!  I am _very_ impressed by the pictures.  (That's origami?)  The
mushrooms by Vincent Floederer blow my mind!

                              All the best,
                                    Mark

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimie.umontreal.ca           |
|              or  Mark.Casida@umontreal.ca             |





From: Casida Mark <casida@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:57:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Vincent Floderer

> I haven't the chance to see them, but from what I know of Vincent's
> creations, they are probably not origami (although Vincent has also created
> real Origami models).
>
> He used to create models using very long strips of Brown craft paper, with
> glue on one side.  He would then roll it, twist it, fold it, and then put in
> on the water so the glue works.  The final result looks and feel like wood.

Merci pour l'explication.  Yes, that would explain the appearance.  Though,
even if not true origami, I am still very impressed.

>     JJCaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasalongaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> (who is not French !  I'm Corsican)

                           A la prochaine,
                              Mark

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: Mark.Casida@umontreal.ca             |





From: Sy Chen <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:19:22 -0500
Subject: Re: folding a square in thirds

This S shape method is my favorite among using minimum tools.  I don't
against other methods. All the other methods using pre-marking/creasing are
used for math demonstration. (IMHO)

Sy Chen

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles M. Heron <cheron@ICHIPS.INTEL.COM>
To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: folding a square in thirds

>According to OftC (I forget who's quote it was...
>and what page... Kawasaki?) the best way to fold
>thirds is to approximate by forming an S shape
>with the paper and then working/creasing it so the
>edges all line up.
>(They said it better, and had a picture)
>
>It takes a little practice, but it works pretty
>well, and it's quick. (for those of us in a hurry)
>
>-charles
>
>On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Doug Philips wrote:
>
>> Eric Eros indited:
>>
>> >         The best souce I know of for methods of dividing the sides of a
>> > square is:
>> >
>> > http://www.ask.or.jp/~origami/t/People/CAGE_/divide/index-e.html
>>
>> Agreed, that is a great source.  Aside from the parallel lines method
that
>> Jeff Kerwood excerpted from the archives, I prefer NOMA's method (from
the URL
>> listed above) as it only puts the tiniest of creases on the edge of the
square
>> -AND- it gives you a real mark on the edge of the paper too.  HAGA's
method
>> uses less pinch marks, put you get your result as overlapping edges of
the
>> square, which is hard to be accurate with if you do not crease the square
and
>> besides, you still have to use a pen or thumbnail crease to mark where
the
>> edges overlap.
>>
>> -D'gou





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:24:01 -0800
Subject: Candy Origami

Great article in today's LA Times -- Food section -- page H1. Titled,
"Candy Magic". Called "amezaiku" in Japan -- ancient art of sculpting
with molten sugar by street vendors. They stretch and shape the sugar
while it is cooling. Article shows a sugar ribbon being hand formed into
spiral. I'll bet most origami enthusiasts will enjoy this article.

--
Martin R. Carbone
1227 De La Vina St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 Fax: 805-965-2414

WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<or>>
http://www.modelshops.com <<or>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:50:51 -0800
Subject: Re: Candy Origami

Here's the article:

http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/FOOD/topstory.html

Bon appetit!
Dorothy





From: RBE <rbe@FLASH.NET>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 18:01:20 +0600
Subject: Re: folding a square in thirds

Gerardo Fisanotti wrote:

> I'm starting a modular origami model that requires square papers
> folded in thirds; my question is: do you know an easy way to fold a
> square piece of paper in thirds?

Mark a line as long as the paper is wide/long (line AB, A is one end
and B is the other end).  For example, if your paper is six inches
wide, obviously, each third is only two inches.  So you mark off two
inch segments.  If, however, you have "6 inch" paper that is not
really six inches wide, mark the width on a sheet of paper and make a
line exactly that wide (line AB).  Take a ruler and lay it at an
angle to the line, touching the line at one end.  Draw a line (new
line AC) and mark off segments somewhat longer than an actual third.
For example, I use 3" segments.

Now, you have a mark on the slanted line at 3" (point D), 6" (point
E) and 9" (point F).  Draw another line from the far (9" - point F)
end of the slanted line to the opposite end of the straight line
(point B of the line AB).  You should have a lopsided triangle (ABF).
 Draw lines from the 6" (point E) and 3" J(point D) marks to the
straight line parallel to the line from the 9" (point F) mark.  You
will now have exact thirds marked for the length.

You can do the same for the diagonal or any other length.

Transfer the marks from the line to the sheet and, voila!, you have
exact thirds.

Love & Blessings,
Black Eagle





From: Jean-Jerome CASALONGA <jj-casalonga@MAGIC.FR>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 18:06:21 +0100
Subject: Re: Vincent Floderer

>Wow!  I am _very_ impressed by the pictures.  (That's origami?)
>  The mushrooms by Vincent Floederer blow my mind !

I haven't the chance to see them, but from what I know of Vincent's
creations, they are probably not origami (although Vincent has also created
real Origami models).

He used to create models using very long strips of Brown craft paper, with
glue on one side.  He would then roll it, twist it, fold it, and then put in
on the water so the glue works.  The final result looks and feel like wood.

Vincent is a very creative folder, not very well known (even in France), and
he sure deserves to have his models displayed.

And, most important, he's French (please stand up  -  Thank you).

I'm not anymore in contact with the french origami world, so I don't know
how to contact him, but I'll see what I can do.

    JJCaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasalongaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
(who is not French !  I'm Corsican)





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 18:46:06 +0000
Subject: Re: Vincent Floderer

>>  The mushrooms by Vincent Floederer blow my mind !

You're not supposed to eat them!!!

hazily,

Nick Robinson





From: Vincent & Veronique <osele@MYGALE.ORG>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 21:56:15 +0100
Subject: Re: paper questions

Le 15 Dec 98,  Cyrille nous =E9crivait:

> One sheet of "papier de soie"
> (i don't know the word for it in english if someone can translate) this =
is

Is it tissue paper  or tissu foil ?

What sort of glue do you use and where do you buy it ?

a+
Vincent

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From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 23:16:34 +0100
Subject: Re: folding angle

I have a method of folding the pentagon, which is approximate but works
very well on my home page:
 http://shell.idt.net/~kittyv .  It is in pdf form and will require the
Acrobat 3 reader.  James M. Sakoda





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@PB.NET>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 23:50:31 +0000
Subject: Re: folding a square in thirds

For the truly innacurate folder, why not begin with a rectangle and fold it
into fourths lengthwise? Cut off one fourth and then make a square.

I've done this with children who find folding thirds too difficult.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:04:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Christmas Models

> I'm new in this list; and I hope somebody will answer me.
>
> I'm looking for Christmas trees models or something like this, does
> anymody knows how to create them?
>
> Many thanks in advance
> Cla

I would suggest "the magic of origami". It has two fine unit (made from
several pieces of paper) Christmas trees in it (one requires glue, the
other needs glue if it will be handled).

It can be ordered from (among other places (this is not an endorsement just
the first place I happened to check)) Fascinating Folds
(http://www.fascinating-folds.com/welcome.htm - A2142, Magic of Origami,
Author: Gray and Kasahara - 87040-624-8, $14.00)

Hope this helps.

Jeff Kerwood





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:31:20 -0800
Subject: Seeking paper related information

We now offer FREE personal (or commercial) web space for anyone with
PAPER RELATED INFORMATION --  whether it be Origami, formulas for making
paper, the history of paper, sources of paper, seasonal craft ideas,
tools, tips, ideas or what have you. All you do is send us the text and
images via e-mail and we'll put the page together and send you your own
URL which you can use to tell your friends about your space. We are
doing this to create a central clearinghouse at
http://www.papershops.com for information on paper tools, materials and
techniques and general information.
Click on "my PS" at our website for details.

--
Martin R. Carbone
1227 De La Vina St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 Fax: 805-965-2414

WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<or>>
http://www.modelshops.com <<or>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cyrille_Pr=E9aux?= <cyrille.preaux@ACCESINTERNET.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:38:31 +0100
Subject: Re: paper questions

What sort of glue do you use and where do you buy it ?

This is a spray glue, 3M i think the producer is UHU ???
(c'est une colle en spray, un bombe de colle 3M mais j'ai oubli=E9 la mar=
que)
je l'achete en papeterie ou dans les magasins d'art)





From: Claudio <Claudio.Perego@ITALTEL.IT>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:29:13 +0100
Subject: Christmas Models

Hello everybody

I'm new in this list; and I hope somebody will answer me.

I'm looking for Christmas trees models or something like this, does
anymody knows how to create them?

Many thanks in advance
Cla





From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:40:18 -0600
Subject: Re: Badgers

Very late but try this.

There is a badger diagrammed on this website.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/4800/anidiag.html
<http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/4800/anidiag.html>

B R E T T

-----Original Message-----
From:   Tony O'Hare [mailto:tohare@CABLEINET.CO.UK]
Sent:   Thursday, August 27, 1998 7:55 PM
To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        Badgers

Robin Glynn wrote:
> Another animal I have not seen folded (except by me!) is the Badger.
> Does anyone know any different?

Martin Wall did a nice badger, printed in the British Origami Society
Convention booklet from Birmingham Autumn 1979 - this may be obtained
from the BOS library if you want to have a look. I have an essential
reference booklet "Index of Convention Packs 1979-1991" by David Petty,
printed by the BOS, which has an alphabetical list of all the models
included in these packs during this period. There is also another badger
listed by Peter Lillington in the Spring 1985 (Oxford) Convention Pack.
Hope this is useful.
Tony
tohare@cableinet.co.uk





From: Renata Fontenelle <ren@NLINK.COM.BR>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 04:59:08 -0200
Subject: Looking for addresses in Amsterdam

Hi there, everyone :)

Can anyone point me out any addresses of nice Origami stores (or simply
nice paper shops) in Amsterdam?

Thanks a lot,
Renata





From: andalar <andalar@AIMNET.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:19:11 -0800
Subject: Re: paper questions

I'm wondering if anyone's ever used rubber cement.  I expect some believe
it doesn't last very long, but I used it a few years ago to fuse tissue
paper and a simple piece of kami and it's lasted so far.  It also gave a
wonderful texture to the tissue paper since the brush strokes showed up to
darken its color and then the folds broke up the pattern enough.

I expect there are some good reasons to use these other products that are
rather toxic.  Maybe they don't indicate their existence through the paper.
Maybe they really do last longer.  After all, I only have one sample to go
by.

Laura

>On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Cyrille Pr=E9aux wrote:
>> What sort of glue do you use and where do you buy it ?
>
>I use 3M Display Mount for that purpose; I believe this is a Scotch brand.
>(Or the other way around.) I buy it at arts supply stores and stationary
>stores, but I have had some trouble finding it lately; several of the
>stores where I usually buy it do not carry it anymore.
>
>There are several types of 3M spray glue: Display Mount, Spray Mount and
>Foto Mount. Display Mount is repositionable, which is theoretically better
>for making tissue foil since you can smooth out wrinkles etc. But Spray
>Mount glues much stronger than Display Mount, so you need only a thin
>layer of glue whereas with Display Mount, you either spray so think that
>the glue seeps through the paper, or the paper does not hold together at
>the seams. So Spray Mount is really preferable.
>
>Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
>                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:52:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Christmas Models

Jeff Kerwood indited:

> I would suggest "the magic of origami". It has two fine unit (made from
> several pieces of paper) Christmas trees in it (one requires glue, the
> other needs glue if it will be handled).

Agreed.    That book can often be found in bookstores, such as Border's or
Barnes' and Noble (in the USA).

Some nice "flat" trees are:
(from the Origami USA model database http://www.origami-usa.org/)

Simple Christmas Tree by Edith Braun (Simple, uses book base)
Origami USA Annual Collection 1992, page 168

Xmas Tree by Robert Harbin (Low Intermediate, uses kite base)
Origami: The Art of Paperfolding by Robert Harbin page 132
Paper used is sq

Xmas Tree by Ligia Montoya (Intermediate, uses fish base)
New Adventures in Origami by Robert Harbin page 68
Paper used is rhombus
              ^^^^^^^

I'm sure there are others too.  Maybe I should start a December's Holidays
model page now too! ;-)

-D'gou





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:55:10 -0800
Subject: Re: paper questions

At 15:19 98/12/17 -0800, andalar wrote:
>I'm wondering if anyone's ever used rubber cement.  I expect some believe
>it doesn't last very long, but I used it a few years ago to fuse tissue
>paper and a simple piece of kami and it's lasted so far.  It also gave a
>wonderful texture to the tissue paper since the brush strokes showed up to
>darken its color and then the folds broke up the pattern enough.
>
>I expect there are some good reasons to use these other products that are
>rather toxic.  Maybe they don't indicate their existence through the paper.
>Maybe they really do last longer.  After all, I only have one sample to go
>by.

The problem with rubber cement is that it is hard to get an even coat unless
it is diluted very thinly. However, the solvent causes it to soak into the
paper, causing discoloration. Thus it doesn't work too well, either way you go.

The other products aren't really worse than rubber cement in terms of
toxicity. Display Mount is actually thinned out rubber cement in an aerosol
can. This allows you to apply an even coat and gives you the repositioning
feature that rubber cement allows.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Kimberly Warren <warre016@MC.DUKE.EDU>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:32:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Christmas Models

Hi all,

I'm new to the list.  Thanks for the references about Christmas models.  I
started folding a nativity set for my family last night only to discover
that I had lost the diagram for baby Jesus.  I used to have a photocopy
from Origami for Christmas, but alas, it has disappeared, and the copy of
the book in the library is gone.  I tried the baby model in Creative
Origami, but found it had a belly-up insect look that I didn't care for.
I'll try the bookstore for Magic of Origami.  I'd be grateful for any other
suggestions.

Thanks

Kim Warren
Durham, NC





From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@KIMSCRANE.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:40:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Christmas Models

I would like to mention that Kim's Crane also carries the books, Origami for
Christmas and The Magic of Origami.  We also carry several other Christmas
books, though they are in Italian but have wonderfully easy diagrams to
follow:  Presepe In Origami and Un Natale Tutto di Carta.  Come have a look!

Sincerely,
Kimberly Crane
http://www.kimscrane.com

Jeff Kerwood wrote:

> > I'm new in this list; and I hope somebody will answer me.
> >
> > I'm looking for Christmas trees models or something like this, does
> > anymody knows how to create them?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance
> > Cla
>
> I would suggest "the magic of origami". It has two fine unit (made from
> several pieces of paper) Christmas trees in it (one requires glue, the
> other needs glue if it will be handled).
>
> It can be ordered from (among other places (this is not an endorsement just
> the first place I happened to check)) Fascinating Folds
> (http://www.fascinating-folds.com/welcome.htm - A2142, Magic of Origami,
> Author: Gray and Kasahara - 87040-624-8, $14.00)
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jeff Kerwood





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 18:20:21 +0100
Subject: Re: paper questions

On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Cyrille Pr=E9aux wrote:
> What sort of glue do you use and where do you buy it ?

I use 3M Display Mount for that purpose; I believe this is a Scotch brand.
(Or the other way around.) I buy it at arts supply stores and stationary
stores, but I have had some trouble finding it lately; several of the
stores where I usually buy it do not carry it anymore.=20

There are several types of 3M spray glue: Display Mount, Spray Mount and
Foto Mount. Display Mount is repositionable, which is theoretically bette=
r
for making tissue foil since you can smooth out wrinkles etc. But Spray
Mount glues much stronger than Display Mount, so you need only a thin
layer of glue whereas with Display Mount, you either spray so think that
the glue seeps through the paper, or the paper does not hold together at
the seams. So Spray Mount is really preferable.=20

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.d=
e
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!=





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:02:51 -0600
Subject: Re: paper questions

I use 3M Super 77 spray adhesive and also the Rollataq adhesive system. I
prefer the Rollataq for most situations. Rollataq is a 2 1/2-inch roller
at the end of a flat container that you fill with adhesive. You simply
roll the device on the wrong side of one sheet of paper and then attach
the two sheets together. You are able to reposition the sheets for a few
minutes. The adhesive is non-toxic and odorless.

The glue goes on thinly and evenly, and it is flexible when dry.  I have
just made a few dozen Takahama stars (from Glenda Scott's web page) out
of two sheets of washi glued together using my Rollataq.

The disadvantage of Rollataq is that it doesn't hold firmly to aluminum
foil. The 3M adhesive is definitely better for tissue foil. It goes on
without making ruts in the foil, and it is stickier.

But the 3M adhesive smells awful, is toxic and inflammable and goes all
over the place, since it is an aerosol.

Then there's methyl cellulose. See the archive. I'm exhausted.

-Jane





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:21:47 -0500
Subject: 5 & 7 sided boxes...

Regarding <n>-sided boxes, where <n> is 5 or 7...

One of my favorite Tomoko Fuse books is a thin hardback, ISBN 4-14-031068-5.
It has several five sided boxes, and variants.  Aside from square based boxes,
it also has silver rectangle (A4, etc. the European Paper 1:sqrt(2) ratio)
based boxes.  I do not know if the 5 sided box construction is exact, or just
very close.

-D'gou





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:07:10 -0500
Subject: Re: paper questions

At 09:02 PM 12/17/98 -0600, Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET> wrote:

>I use 3M Super 77 spray adhesive and also the Rollataq adhesive system. I
>prefer the Rollataq for most situations. Rollataq is a 2 1/2-inch roller
>at the end of a flat container that you fill with adhesive. You simply
>roll the device on the wrong side of one sheet of paper and then attach
>the two sheets together. You are able to reposition the sheets for a few
>minutes. The adhesive is non-toxic and odorless.

Different brands and types of Spray adhesive can be VERY different. I have
the 3M Supper 77 as well, but I only use it in extreme situations. For most
jobs, the 3M Spray Mount Artist's Adhesive is perfect for most metal to
paper applications. It is repositionable, and the smell is not nearly as
bad. Also, many aerosols provide different nozzles for different types of
spraying.

>Then there's methyl cellulose. See the archive. I'm exhausted.

Only good for paper to paper (or other pourus materials). This way is very
good when applicable.

Marc





From: Michie Sahara <michies@WESTWORLD.COM>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 01:40:13 -0800
Subject: "Origami...Rokoan Style"

Hi, everyone.  Our book, "Origami...Rokoan Style", finally came out.  It is a
     book on how to fold connected cranes.  This method was originated by a
     Japanese priest, Rokoan, 200 years ago.  He created 49 models and my
     mother Masako Sakai created 2 based o
  this technique.  This book covers 26 models.  We are working on the part two
     of this book right now.  It is a hard back book with a beautiful red Yuzen
     design on the cover.  It also comes with a sheet of 25"x38" washi paper.
     If you are interested pleas





From: DMAWolf@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:26:38 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Candy Origami

In a message dated 12/17/98 2:00:13 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU writes:

<< Subject: Candy Origami

Hi All,
At the Matsuri in Phoenix Feb. 27-28 not only will we have Joseph Wu and
Michael la Fosse as our guests but we always have the Candyman come and
demonstrate this wonderful art.
If you live in one of the parts of the country that is not blessed with
sunshine in Feb. come and join us for the Arizona Matsuri in downtown Phoenix.
We have a large Origami booth and exhibit where we share with the 20,000 +
people who attend.  You can't beat the price it is free.
If you would like more information e mail me and I will give more details.
Diana Wolf
An older bolder folder.





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:15:57 -0800
Subject: Laminating papers

Following the recent discussion on laminating.

1     There are a number of hot melt adhesive sheets on the market. All
can be used with a common household iron to laminate paper and foil.
Wonder Under is one brand name, Pellon who make all sorts of sewing aids
has a fusible web used in interfacing sewn garments , Aleene=92s also has
a fusible web and we at papershops.com have what we call Irontight. All
work  well in my limited experience =96 but I am quite inexperienced.
There are also various photo laminating films that can be used. Send me
a #10 self addressed stamped envelope and I will fill it with samples of
our Irontight and return it to you.

2     Both 3M and Xyron have laminators on the market that apply a sheet
of pressure sensitive film to any 8-1/2" sheet fed through the hand
operated machine. We sell the 3M unit at papershops.  A number of craft
stores have the units and will apply the material for you.

3     We also developed a device we call a Rollercoater that rolls on a
thin film of hot melt adhesive to any substrate.  We converted one of
Daige=92s waxers (which is used for pasteups in the graphics art business=
)
to use the high temperature adhesive. Unfortunately we had some
production problems and could never develop a substantial market for the
tool and have discontinued production.  Any manufacturer who thinks they
can revive these units can contact us and we will cooperate..

4      Daige=92s Rollataq unit works well as has been mentioned
previously. We plan to offer these at papershops in the near future.

--
Martin R. Carbone
1227 De La Vina St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 Fax: 805-965-2414

WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<or>>
http://www.modelshops.com <<or>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Michele Weise <michele@PEPPERTREESTUDIOS.COM>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:12:01 -0800
Subject: Re: "Origami...Rokoan Style"

Hi Michele,
  How much is the connecting cranes book?  Can you tell me the level of
diffulty?  I am beginning an dteach chilren, but I've seen a picture of
connecting cranes and it looks beautiful.  Do you sell the book directly?

At 01:40 AM 12/18/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi, everyone.  Our book, "Origami...Rokoan Style", finally came out.  It is
a book on how to fold connected cranes.  This method was originated by a
Japanese priest, Rokoan, 200 years ago.  He created 49 models and my mother
Masako Sakai created 2 based on this technique.  This book covers 26 models.
We are working on the part two of this book right now.  It is a hard back
book with a beautiful red Yuzen design on the cover.  It also comes with a
sheet of 25"x38" washi paper.  If you are interested please let me know.
Michie Sahara
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
><HTML>
><HEAD>
>
><META content="text/html; charset=euc-jp" http-equiv=Content-Type>
><META content='"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=GENERATOR>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Hi, everyone.&nbsp; Our book,
>&quot;Origami...Rokoan Style&quot;, finally came out.&nbsp; It is a book on
how
>to fold connected cranes.&nbsp; This method was originated by a Japanese
priest,
>Rokoan, 200 years ago.&nbsp; He created 49 models and my mother Masako Sakai
>created 2 based on this technique.&nbsp; This book covers 26 models.&nbsp; We
>are working on the part two of this book right now.&nbsp; It is a hard back
book
>with a beautiful red Yuzen design on the cover.&nbsp; It also comes with a
sheet
>of 25&quot;x38&quot; washi paper.&nbsp; If you are interested please let me
>know.&nbsp; Michie Sahara</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
  <*))))><       <*))))><      <*))))><       <*))))><

        Michele Weise, Artist, Moorpark, CA
         SCRATCHBOARD ART - WATERCOLOR
        http://www.peppertreestudios.com





From: DMAWolf@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:26:38 EST
Subject: Re: Candy Origami

In a message dated 12/17/98 2:00:13 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU writes:

<< Subject: Candy Origami

Hi All,
At the Matsuri in Phoenix Feb. 27-28 not only will we have Joseph Wu and
Michael la Fosse as our guests but we always have the Candyman come and
demonstrate this wonderful art.
If you live in one of the parts of the country that is not blessed with
sunshine in Feb. come and join us for the Arizona Matsuri in downtown Phoenix.
We have a large Origami booth and exhibit where we share with the 20,000 +
people who attend.  You can't beat the price it is free.
If you would like more information e mail me and I will give more details.
Diana Wolf
An older bolder folder.





From: John Marcolina <jmarcoli@CISCO.COM>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:45:55 -0800
Subject: Re: Flower Towers

At 02:16 PM 12/14/1998 -0500, Rosalinda Sanchez wrote:
>After a few tries, I finally figured out how to fold one of Chris Palmer's
>eight petal flower towers.  Although the topmost octagon is flat rather than
>the kind of pinwheel effect I have seen on Tom Hull's site, I am rather happy
>with the results.  Does anybody know how Chris Palmer gets them onto his
>boxes?  Does he fold the lid of the box with the flower tower on top from one
>square sheet of paper?  Has anyone been successful in making one?  If so, can
>you offer some advice to point me in the right direction?  Thanks.

Hi Rosalinda,
I also figured out the 8-petal flower tower, with help from Tom Hull, and Chris
     Palmer's video. Putting it on a box was something I'd been meaning to try,
     but hadn't yet. After your query, I decided to try, and I was successful!
     Of course, it helps if you
 have Chris' video, because in it he teaches you how to fold a masu box with an
     octagon twist on top, and that's exactly how I started, although I made
     the octagon in the center larger to start with. Then I "decreeped" the
     flower tower from there. The res
 l
If you search the archives, there was an email Tom Hull sent in response to a
     query I made, in which he gave a lot of useful information on the
     decreeping process used to make the levels of a flower tower. It was
     earlier this year. Let me know if you can'
  find it and I'll see if I can dig it up and send it to you.
Tom Hull also helped me with the flower tower top. If you fold each of the 8
     corners of the flat topmost octagon to the center, then unfold, then
     refold all 8 corners similtaneously, you get the neat purse-like top you
     were asking about.

Good Luck!

John Marcolina
San Jose, CA.
jmarcoli@cisco.com





From: Raleigh Adams <kftl@NS.NET>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:46:45 -0800
Subject: Re: "Origami...Rokoan Style"

.  If you are interested please let me know.  Michie Sahara

i cetainly am,,,could you contact me offline? thanks /..Linda





From: Martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:28:08 -0800
Subject: Re: Rollatag -- Following Phillips and Rosemarin

We use Rollataq all the time for non-origami projects and it works well - very
little maintenance or cleaning. We put a plastic bag over the roller before
putting on the top -- you could use Saran Wrap. We plan to add this product to
     our
line -- if you send an order to us before the new year, we'll put them all
together and give everyone a 25% discount from the list price on each unit. List
price is $23.95. List price on 16 ounce plastic bottle of adhesive is $7.95 --
take a 25% discount on these too --- for the next FIVE years if you are on our
list of purchasers by 1/1/99. Add $5.25 per total order for UPS shipping Order
from papershops.com -- or the address below. We guarantee you will be satisfied
     --
or we will return your money.

Doug Philips wrote  ---
I'm curious (before I mail order thesystem) what kind of maintenance the roller
and stuff needs.  Doesn't it get all gummed up if you just set it aside after
using it?

I'd like to hear from other Rollataq users too." ... Jane Rosemarin indited: ...
> and also the Rollataq adhesive system. I
> prefer the Rollataq for most situations. Rollataq is a 2 1/2-inch roller
> at the end of a flat container that you fill with adhesive. You simply
> roll the device on the wrong side of one sheet of paper and then attach
> the two sheets together. You are able to reposition the sheets for a few
> minutes. The adhesive is non-toxic and odorless....

>

--
Martin R. Carbone
1227 De La Vina St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574 Fax: 805-965-2414

WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<or>>
http://www.modelshops.com <<or>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:57:53 -0500
Subject: Re: paper questions

Jane Rosemarin indited:

> I use 3M Super 77 spray adhesive and also the Rollataq adhesive system. I
> prefer the Rollataq for most situations. Rollataq is a 2 1/2-inch roller
> at the end of a flat container that you fill with adhesive. You simply
> roll the device on the wrong side of one sheet of paper and then attach
> the two sheets together. You are able to reposition the sheets for a few
> minutes. The adhesive is non-toxic and odorless.

I've been wanting to try the Rollataq system for a while, but non of the "in
person" places I've tried have had it.  Well, some have the refills, but I've
found none with the roller assembly too.  I'm curious (before I mail order the
system) what kind of maintenance the roller and stuff needs.  Doesn't it get
all gummed up if you just set it aside after using it?

> The disadvantage of Rollataq is that it doesn't hold firmly to aluminum
> foil. The 3M adhesive is definitely better for tissue foil. It goes on
> without making ruts in the foil, and it is stickier.

I can't speak to the stickiness factor... What happens if you apply it to the
tissue instead of the foil (to avoid the ruts)?  I'm not big on foil-ed papers
personally, so if the maintenance isn't too bad, I'm inclined to get one.

Thanks!
        -D'gou

P.S.  I addressed this to Jane since it was her email I was replying to, but
I'd like to hear from other Rollataq users too.





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:09:54 -0800
Subject: Re: Web site changes...

At 23:51 98/12/13 -0800, I wrote:
>At 21:59 1998-12-12 -0500, you wrote:
>>Perhaps we could ask a favor of Joseph and ask if it might be possible to
>>indicate a "last updated" status for each of the links on his page.  If
>>not, then I guess I can just save the individual announcements I get via
>>e-mail the way I always have....   :)
>
>Well, unless someone is willing to check on all of the sites listed and
>take note of when the latest update was...
>
>Actually, I think I might be able to make this an automatic process. Let me
>tinker with the script a little and we'll see what can be done.

Replying to myself, but here's the scoop:

I've added to the links page a "last modified" entry for most pages in the
list. All it does is to check the "last modified" date for the main page of
the linked site. Thus, if a page within the site is changed, but the main
page is not touched, it will not be recorded. Still, I think this will be
useful. On the plus side, this also tells you if the server is down. Due to
the large amount of processing this system requires (there are over 250 sites),
I think I will only run it once a week.

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From: Kari Shiozaki <rhapsody@UMICH.EDU>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:14:18 -0500
Subject: Good Origami Books?

I know the basics of Origami but want to learn more advanced Origami.

Could you be so kind to recommend few books?

Thank you in advance.

Kari





From: Michelle Knight <mlknight@MINDSPRING.COM>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:20:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Good Origami Books?

At 03:14 PM 12/18/98 -0500, Kari Shiozaki <rhapsody@UMICH.EDU> wrote:

>I know the basics of Origami but want to learn more advanced Origami.
>
>Could you be so kind to recommend few books?

 Here are the books in my -- albeit small -- collection:

"Creative Origami" by Kunihiko Kasahara
"The World of Origami" by Isao Honda
"Unit Origami (Multidimensional Transformations)" by Tomoko Fuse
"Origami for the Connoisseur" by Kunihiko Kasahara and Toshie Takahama
"Flying Bird Origami" by Yoshihide Momotani

Michelle
Sacramento, CA





From: RBE <rbe@FLASH.NET>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:26:11 +0600
Subject: Re: paper questions

> I'm wondering if anyone's ever used rubber cement.  I expect some
> believe it doesn't last very long, but I used it a few years ago to
> fuse tissue paper and a simple piece of kami and it's lasted so far.
>  It also gave a wonderful texture to the tissue paper since the
> brush strokes showed up to darken its color and then the folds broke
> up the pattern enough.

I've used it for mounting copper paper, but it would leave a texture
on anything much thinner.  Most people don't know how to use it for
mounting.  Put a thin coat on the facing surfaces (surfaces that will
be glued together) and let it dry.  Put some waxed paper between the
two and line them up carefully.  Pull the waxed paper out slowly,
while smoothing down the two fabrics, paper, foil or whatever, as you
go.  It makes up a really tough binding and doesn't ever seem to go
old.

Some of the mounting tissues and sprays eventually break down -- at
least faster than any rubber cement (some have stayed together for
over 30 years).

Love & Blessings,
Black Eagle





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:44:52 -0600
Subject: Re: Good Origami Books?

Kari Shiozaki wrote:

> I know the basics of Origami but want to learn more advanced Origami.
>
> Could you be so kind to recommend few books?
>
> Thank you in advance.

One right off the top of my head would be the Origami Omnibus by
Kasahara, It was just reprinted and can be found in many chain stores,
and even in some malls stores.  It is big, and covers so much that there
are parts you may never need, but it covers so much, it is well worth the
20.00 dallar price tag!

Perry

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