




From: Kimberly Crane <kcrane@KIMSCRANE.COM>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 05:52:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Modular Stuff

Hello Ian:
You may purchase the book, Modular Origami Polyhedra authored by Lewis Simon
and Bennett Arnsteini from Kim's Crane.
Sincerely,
Kimberly Crane
http://www.kimscrane.com

Ian Carrie wrote:

> Recently I came across an interesting little book in the local public
> library, "Modular Origami Polyhedra" by Lewis Simon and Bennett Arnstein.
> The book was produced in 1989 and the authers seemed to have had an
> asociation with the West Coast Origami Guild.
>
> Does anyone know of these two folders and if it is still possible to buy a
> copy of their book?
>
> Ian Carrie
> Wellington
> New Zealand





From: Krystyna Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 07:25:51 +0100
Subject: Odp:      Modular Stuff

>Recently I came across an interesting little book in the local public
>library, "Modular Origami Polyhedra" by Lewis Simon and Bennett Arnstein.
>The book was produced in 1989 and the authers seemed to have had an
>asociation with the West Coast Origami Guild.
>
>Does anyone know of these two folders and if it is still possible to buy a
>copy of their book?
>
>Ian Carrie
>Wellington
>New Zealand

I have bought it at Fascinating Folds.
I think that this book is still avaliable there:
http://www.fascinating-folds.com/

Bennett Arnstein is also coauthor (with Rona Gurkewitz) of very interesting
     book on modular origami (you can also buy this book at Fascinating Folds):
Rona Gurkewitz, Bennett Arnstein,3-D Geometric Origami Modular Polyhedra, Dover
     Publications, Inc., New York 1995, ISBN 0-486-28863-3.

Best regards
Wojtek Burczyk
hhtp://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk





From: Joanne Thiel <JThiel@PIVOTAL.COM>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 09:03:46 -0800
Subject: Re: Missing Diagrams?

I read David's thesis also, and the diagrams really are not there.  He said
(somewhere) that he had hand-drawn them on the final originals only.

Joanne

> - snip -
> >defective.  Is the "Origami on Computers" article by David Fisher on the
> >Origami Interest Group ftp site supposed to be missing diagrams?
> >
>
>
> i do had the same problem a few time ago and i think that the problem rely
> in the reader...
> (there are different version of postscript).
> I've tried three of them with no luck...
>
>
> Cyrille





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 09:30:50 -0800
Subject: Re: Missing Diagrams?

At 09:03 1998-12-09 -0800, you wrote:
>I read David's thesis also, and the diagrams really are not there.  He said
>(somewhere) that he had hand-drawn them on the final originals only.

Actually, the diagrams are there in the same directory as separate GIF files.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 09:51:06 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Money Rose Tape and Manual

Hi Michael, did you get my E-mail regarding the money folding tape and
manual....just wondering?





From: Jason C Troye <troyejas@PILOT.MSU.EDU>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 09:58:44 -0500
Subject: Gamera

Hello,
I have been working through the models from the Tanteidan 3 book.  I was able
to fold all but the Gamera model.  The diagrams for this model are not as clear
as the others.  I was wondering if anyone has translated the
text of this model, and if so could you pass the translation on to me?
Thanks in advance,
Jason C. Troye





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 10:49:38 -0800
Subject: Three Masted Ship Base

Does anyone know who designed the three masted ship base (or stand) for
Patricia Crawford's three masted ship?

Thanks!





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 12:00:55 -0600
Subject: Re: Gamera

Jason C Troye wrote:

> Hello,
> I have been working through the models from the Tanteidan 3 book.  I was able
> to fold all but the Gamera model.  The diagrams for this model are not as
     clear
> as the others.  I was wondering if anyone has translated the
> text of this model, and if so could you pass the translation on to me?
> Thanks in advance,
> Jason C. Troye

Good luck dude, no one I know of has folded it, some say oh I could I think
     this is
just a such and such, but none of them have actualy folded it, It stumped me to,
and the replies I got didn't help all that much.

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: Anne R LaVin <lavin@MIT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:08:41 -0500 (
Subject: Origami book reviews/model lists

Hi everyone!  I've added a number of reviews/book model lists to my
site:

        http://web.mit.edu/lavin/www/origami-books.html

The list now includes:

        Issei Super Complex Origami, YOSHINO, Issei
        Creating Origami, Nolan, J.C.
        Origami Spirals, FUSE, Tomoko
        Let's Fold Spirals, FUSE, Tomoko
        Origami Models - The Mask, FUSE, Tomoko

        Origami Tanteidan Convention 2
        Origami Tanteidan Convention 3
        Origami Tanteidan Convention 4

        Super Simple Airplanes, Nick Robinson

Additionally, there are review/model list links for a number of books
at David Foulds' Origami Bibliography site:

        http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/books/index.html

David's been kind enough to let me link into his pages, so where he
has reviews/model lists that I haven't done, I've linked in there.

I'm working on reorganizing the pages a bit - lumping all the reviewed
books together to make it easier to find things, etc., and hope to
have it up in a new form shortly!

As always, suggestions or requests for reviews are welcome...

Anne R. LaVin                       "Say, Pooh, why aren't YOU busy?" I said.
lavin@mit.edu                           "Because it's a nice day," said Pooh.
(617) 258-7940                                                  "Yes, but---"
MIT Foreign Langs & Lits                              "Why ruin it?" he said.





From: Ian Carrie <imcarrie@ACTRIX.GEN.NZ>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 14:33:49 +1300
Subject: Modular Stuff

Recently I came across an interesting little book in the local public
library, "Modular Origami Polyhedra" by Lewis Simon and Bennett Arnstein.
The book was produced in 1989 and the authers seemed to have had an
asociation with the West Coast Origami Guild.

Does anyone know of these two folders and if it is still possible to buy a
copy of their book?

Ian Carrie
Wellington
New Zealand





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cyrille_Pr=E9aux?= <cyrille.preaux@ACCESINTERNET.COM>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 17:59:45 +0100
Subject: Re: Missing Diagrams?

- snip -
>defective.  Is the "Origami on Computers" article by David Fisher on the
>Origami Interest Group ftp site supposed to be missing diagrams?
>

i do had the same problem a few time ago and i think that the problem rely
in the reader...
(there are different version of postscript).
I've tried three of them with no luck...

Cyrille





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 16:31:43 -0600
Subject: Re: Three Masted Ship Base

Dorothy Engleman wrote:

> Does anyone know who designed the three masted ship base (or stand) for
> Patricia Crawford's three masted ship?
>
> Thanks!

According to my copy of Origami Step by Step which is a 1st edition the
base was desighned by Fred Rohm.

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 16:44:43 +0100
Subject: Jeanine Mosely

I just tried to send a message to Jeannine Mosely at an email address I
have used recently --- came back as undeliverable.

Jeanine if you read this -- send me your new address -- we have sold some
Flying Wring Kits and a Wreath Kit --- so we will be sending you a small
royalty check before the end of the year.

Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
<<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 16:55:07 -0600
Subject: new Model

Hi again, I just put another new model up on my web page, it is a
space shuttle or to be a little more literal a "lifting body"  at
any rate it makes for an entertaining toy with a tiny bit of
science grafted in.

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: Ian McRobbie <Ourldypeac@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 19:41:21 -0500 (
Subject: Jetplane Diagrams

Hello all you fellow origamians out there!
   I am trying to get as many origami plane diagrams as possible.  When I say
plane, I mean the one like the SR-71 in OftC.  It looks like the real plane.
I don't care if it doesn't fly.  I just want a fleet of realistic jets and
planes.
   I was wondering is anyone had the Harrier Jet diagrams.  I think it is in
Tanteidan 4.  I wondered if you could scan them for me (or any other realistic
looking planes).
Thank you so much.
                                                   -Ian





From: "Jerry D. Harris" <102354.2222@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 20:39:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Three Masted Ship Base

Perry wrote:

>>According to my copy of Origami Step by Step which is a 1st edition the
base was desighned by Fred Rohm.>>

        That's not how I read it.  Yes, there is a statement there saying
"Base by Fred Rohm," but since that's mentioned right up at the beginning,
I think that the statement refers to the fundamental base from which the
ship itself is created (the thing in Step 4).  What Dorothy is asking is
who created the little stand that the ship sits in in order to remain
upright -- the thing for which instructions are on p. 77, called "The
Stand."  It's not given any credit, so I assume it was also a creation of
Pat Crawford's.  This is what Dorothy is asking.

                _,_
           ____/_\,)                    ..  _
--____-===(  _\/                         \\/ \-----_---__
           /\  '                        ^__/>/\____\--------
__________/__\_ ____________________________.//__.//_________

                     Jerry D. Harris
                 Fossil Preparation Lab
          New Mexico Museum of Natural History
                   1801 Mountain Rd NW
               Albuquerque  NM  87104-1375
                 Phone:  (505) 899-2809
                  Fax:  (505) 841-2866
               102354.2222@compuserve.com





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 21:38:33 -0600
Subject: Re: Three Masted Ship Base

Jerry D. Harris wrote:

> Perry wrote:
>
> >>According to my copy of Origami Step by Step which is a 1st edition the
> base was desighned by Fred Rohm.>>
>
>         That's not how I read it.  Yes, there is a statement there saying
> "Base by Fred Rohm," but since that's mentioned right up at the beginning,
> I think that the statement refers to the fundamental base from which the
> ship itself is created (the thing in Step 4).  What Dorothy is asking is
> who created the little stand that the ship sits in in order to remain
> upright -- the thing for which instructions are on p. 77, called "The
> Stand."  It's not given any credit, so I assume it was also a creation of
> Pat Crawford's.  This is what Dorothy is asking.

By george I think he's right!
Go with Patricia Crawford, there is a section in the intro that backs up
Jerry's statement that it was referring to the base she used to make the ship.

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 21:58:36 -0600
Subject: manners

I don't know if I have or not, but if I seem to be unduly harsh
or if I accidently upset anyone, it is just the time of year and
those who i will not be able to see, and not any of you who I am
upset about.

Sorry, and thank you

Perry
--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <---- Origami Web Page with
Diagrams!
ICQ 23622644





From: Rakostar@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 22:45:40 -0500 (
Subject: Hi.

Hi all.  This is my first message.  I've been on the list since January.  I
understand that makes me a lurker.  I haven't contributed because I didn't
know enough to say anything.  I've learned so much and tried so many wonderful
things that you all have been enthusiastic about.  I just wanted to say
thanks.    Rae





From: DGS - Kevin Kinney PhD <kkinney@CAROLINAS.ORG>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:29:12 -0500
Subject: Sighting in USA Today

Front section of the USA Today this morning (10 December) has *multiple*
origami bits-as an add for a new phone service:

1st:  A globe-map on a dodecahedron (almost assuredly not origami), with
then caption "going global?"

Then, a Peacock, with the caption "Planning to Expand?"
        You can see, on the peacock's fan, the name of the service
"Business flex"

Third, a Rhinoceros (very nice, not the Montroll one I'm used to, but about
as good).  Caption "Charging ahead?"

And finally, a half page ad for Sprint's Business Flex service, with a
goose (I think) in flight.  Also some line drawings of intermediate steps
in folding a flapping bird (*not* the goose pictured, though).

The rhino is also on their web page
(http://www.sprintbiz.com/bizflex/index.html)

Any one on the list the folder behind these?

Kevin Kinney

Kevin Kinney
kkinney@carolinas.org





From: Rona Gurkewitz <GURKEWITZ@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:24:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Modular Stuff

Ian,

    "Modular Origami Polyhedra" by Lewis simon and Bennett Arnstein
published in 1989 is out of print. However, a new edition of it
is being published by Dover Publications around March 99. It will
be called "Modular Origami Polyhedra: Revised and Enlarged Edition"
by Lewis Simon, Bennett Arnstein and me, Rona Gurkewitz.

    The first edition was 32 pages, the new edition is 64 pages and
contains a lot of new material. It has been reorganized and the layout
and editting was done on a computer. The material covered is three
"Systems" of Polyhedra the Sonobe System, the Decoration Box System
and the Gyroscope System, and connections between the Sonobe System
and the Decoration Box System. Also covered are Lewis Simon's "Magic
Cubes".

Rona Gurkewitz





From: Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@EIEE.UNIVALLE.EDU.CO>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:58:41 -0500
Subject: New page with diagrams

Hello.
I have some of the diagrams of my models in my web page. They are in
postscript format.

The location is:

http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/modelos.html

Please let me know if they are good.
 Good luck,

Jose Tomas Buitrago





From: Keropi <keropi@VT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:26:42 -0500
Subject: Crawford's ship stand

I don't recall who first brought up the question as to the creator/designer
of Crawford's Full Rigged Ship stand, in J.C. Nolan's Creating Origami, he
had the diagrams for Crawford's ship and the stand which Nolan credits to
Fred Rohm.  As a matter of fact the base for the ship and the stand are
attributed to Fred Rohm.  As Nolan wrote:

    "...Patricia Crawford told me that Fred Rohm sent her the base for this
model because he had discovered it but couldn't make anything interesting
from it.  She had been intrigrued with the idea of creating a ship and
realized the base was perfect.  The next day she sent him the completed
model, having created it in a single night.  He later created the base &
stand."

Happy Folding,
Keropi
keropi@vt.edu





From: Eric Eros <eros@MOHAWK.ENGR.SGI.COM>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:30:44 -0800
Subject: Re: New page with diagrams

Dear Senor Buitrago,

        I thank you for providing diagrams.  I haven't looked at them yet;
I have just found them.  Your pointer

http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/modelos.html

should have been

http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/diagramas/modelos.html

--
Eric Eros





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:58:37 +0100
Subject: Jeannine Mosely

Still can't find Jeannine --- can anyone help? j9@concentra.com doesn't get
thru.

Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
<<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: tommy <tomkat@DALLAS.NET>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:31:20 -0600
Subject: Re: New page with diagrams

Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina wrote:
>
> Hello.
> I have some of the diagrams of my models in my web page. They are in
> postscript format.
>
> The location is:
>
> http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/modelos.html

Whoops, try this link instead...
http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/diagramas/modelos.html

Tommy





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 06:07:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Jetplane Diagrams

At 07:41 PM 12/9/98 -0500, Ian McRobbie <Ourldypeac@AOL.COM> wrote:

>   I am trying to get as many origami plane diagrams as possible.  When I say
>plane, I mean the one like the SR-71 in OftC.  It looks like the real plane.
>I don't care if it doesn't fly.  I just want a fleet of realistic jets and
>planes.

I have a biplane published in the 1997 Annual Collection (available through
OrigamiUSA at www.origami-usa.org). It is kind of cartoonish looking, but
it is clearly recognizable.

Marc





From: Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@EIEE.UNIVALLE.EDU.CO>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:10:25 -0500
Subject: Re: New page with diagrams

Hello again.

The actual location of my models files is:

http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/diagramas/modelos.html
they are now in PDF format. Thank you to Perry Bailey to convert them.
They are working good now.
 Please let me know if they are good.
  Good luck,

Jose Tomas Buitrago





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:26:08 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Fwd: 1000 Cranes

Kathleen, I dont seem to know about your project....Can you repeat the
information and the address....There may be others who do not have this
either.....





From: Elaine Strain <us4@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 19:16:56 -0800
Subject: Re: New page with diagrams

Hi Jose!
        I got "File Not Found" when I clicked on this.   :(  Thot you might
want to check on it.....

                                Elaine in so cal

Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina wrote:
>
> Hello.
> I have some of the diagrams of my models in my web page. They are in
> postscript format.
>
> The location is:
>
> http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/modelos.html
>
> Please let me know if they are good.
>  Good luck,
>
> Jose Tomas Buitrago





From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 21:37:02 -0500 (
Subject: Re: For Dorothy E.

Jerry Harris wrote:

> Please pardon this public posting, but I'm trying to send this
> message to Dorothy Engleman, and my messages to her address
> continually get bounced back to me!...

I'm having the same problem and am resorting to the same solution of posting
it to the list. Dorothy, if you're reading this, the model should be called a
"Red-eared Slider."

Robert

Of course, if your mailer is bouncing Jerry's and my messages to you, then
it's probably bouncing the -list messages, in which case you've been cut off
from the list and have no chance of reading this anyhow. But sending it anyway
makes _me_ feel better.





From: Sjaak Adriaanse <S.Adriaanse@INTER.NL.NET>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 21:38:11 +0100
Subject: Re: Sighting in USA Today

At 8:29 10-12-1998, DGS - Kevin Kinney PhD wrote:
>Front section of the USA Today this morning (10 December) has *multiple*
>origami bits-as an add for a new phone service:
>
>1st:  A globe-map on a dodecahedron (almost assuredly not origami), with
>then caption "going global?"

I have a icosahedron with a world map on it. It's definitely not origami,
but it is in one piece. On the stand it says it is the Dymaxion Globe,
copyright by the Buckminster Fuller Institute in Los Angeles.

Greetings,
Sjaak

Sjaak Adriaanse
email: S.Adriaanse@inter.NL.net
----------------------------------
We perform the miracles
Kate Bush





From: Martin Gibbs <martingibbs@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 01:14:14 +0800
Subject: replying privately Re: New page with diagrams

I got to the Modelos Colombianos screen okay, but every link I clicked
on from there came up with 'File Not Found'

---Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@EIEE.UNIVALLE.EDU.CO> wrote:
>
> Hello again.
>
> The actual location of my models files is:
>
> http://eiee.univalle.edu.co/~buitrago/diagramas/modelos.html
> they are now in PDF format. Thank you to Perry Bailey to convert them.
> They are working good now.
>  Please let me know if they are good.
>   Good luck,
>
> Jose Tomas Buitrago
>

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From: Andy Carpenter <Andy.Carpenter@MCI.COM>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 14:46:18 -0700
Subject: Proof reading squirrel diagrams

I have recently folded and diagrammed a squirrel and was wondering if anyone
would be interested in proof reading them before I made them fully available
on my web page.

If you want to see a picture before you decide then please go to
http://carpo.home.mindspring.com/AndysOrigamiPage/gallery.htm and click on
'Andys Folds'. At the bottom you will see a picture of the completed model
(this is a new and improved version for those of you who may have been out
to my webpage before).

The model is available in PDF or Visio format.

Thanks
Andy
http://carpo.home.mindspring.com/AndysOrigamiPage/





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 17:44:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Paper discussion

Jonathan J. Picker, on Mon Dec 7th, indited:
+Could someone point me to a web site or book where I can
+learn about all the papers, their characteristics and the models which best
+suit a particular type of paper.  Or, better yet, if someone on this list
+is knowledgeable about my inquiry, please post all you know.  : )

While I doubt you will find any one site with a definitive, all encompassing,
list of papers, types, etc.  You could do a lot worse than to start with
Joseph Wu' Origami Page:
http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/
        Click on "Information"
        Click on "washi"

Why not start your own page of links to paper information and share it with
the rest of us too?

-D'gou

P.S.  I've been on vacation and as best as I can determine from the archives,
this message was not publicly answered.  If I'm wrong, well "Sorry!" and
please send a copy of the answer! ;-)





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 18:23:04 -0500
Subject: Web site changes...

Maybe its just me, but there now seems to be a very healthy and lively number
of websites devoted to or related to origami, many of them defying the
stereotypical web page slothy never-gets-updated rot.  Joseph's page
http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/ is a great place to find them all, but
there isn't any easy way to find out what is being _changed_.

Given the recent messages about Michael LaFosse's web site, and Glenda Scott's
site, I found them both to have changed since I last visited.

I hereby request that anyone on this list who has a web site help us all out
and send a short note to this list when they update their site.  Emphasis on
SHORT, and please, don't send a note just saying you've fixed typos. ;-)

Thanks to Perry Bailey whose timely, informative, and short messages are
exemplary in this regard.

As to the commercial folks out there....  This is a tougher call...

Fascinating Folds (http://www.fascinating-folds.com/) has a well maintained
"What's New" page that is worth visting a few times a week.  It works because
it is kept current.  Additionally, Fascinating Folds uses a mailing list which
one can sign up for, to keep abreast of what is new or changing.  As a member
of that list, I have found it to be informative and timely, but infrequent
enough so as not to annoy or clutter.

Kim's Crane's (http://www.kimscrane.com/) "What's New" type of page is not up
to date, and it is much harder for a web browser (i.e. person) to find out
what is new.  As far as I have been able to find, they do not have a mailing
list one can sign up for.

Origami USA's site (http://www.origami-usa.org/) also does not have a "What's
New at The Source" page, nor a mailing list.

I might consider OUSA to be a special case, as they are a not-for-profit
origami organization, but in general, I would much prefer to see the
commercial sites handle updates and informational updates "off list."

In any event, that's my Two Cents, USD, worth.

-D'gou





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 18:38:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Modular Stuff

On 10 Dec '98, Rona Gurkewitz indited:

       "Modular Origami Polyhedra" by Lewis simon and Bennett Arnstein
       published in 1989 is out of print. However, a new edition of it
       is being published by Dover Publications around March 99. It will
       be called "Modular Origami Polyhedra: Revised and Enlarged Edition"
       by Lewis Simon, Bennett Arnstein and me, Rona Gurkewitz.

For those of us who cannot wait, or who collect origami books obsessively...

Fascinating Folds (http://www.fascinating-folds.com/) has, or at least, had, a
limited number of the "out of print" copies, but best check with them before
assuming any are still available.

Good luck on the book, Rona, and please let us know when the new edition is
available!

-D'gou





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:03:21 -0500
Subject: Endla Saar's Star and other models

While catching up on back origami list messages, I noticed that Glenda
Scott had posted a pointer to her Fabrigami pages, specificly in
reference to a 3D star.  For those wondering, that Star can also be
found in Alice Gray and Kunihiko Kasahara's "The Magic of Origami" and
is credited there to Endla Saar.  A four sided version based on the
traditional (as opposed to 5 sided) bird base can also be found in
"The Flapping Bird" where it is entitled Saar's Star.

(Here's hoping that David Lister can post on this mysterious creator
of geometric (only?) models)!

-D'gou





From: Rob Moes <robert.moes@SNET.NET>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 21:59:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Web site changes...

I'm sure that one of the problems is that so many web pages are in a
constant process of evolution, and it's easy to forget how much a site may
have changed in 3 months or 6 months.

But it seems that as more site developers are posting, the others will
follow with updates.  I'm actually pleased by the trend.

Perhaps we could ask a favor of Joseph and ask if it might be possible to
indicate a "last updated" status for each of the links on his page.  If
not, then I guess I can just save the individual announcements I get via
e-mail the way I always have....   :)

Rob
robert.moes@snet.net





From: Michele Weise <michele@PEPPERTREESTUDIOS.COM>
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:32:38 -0800
Subject: storage question

I am teaching Origami to elementary school kids 3 hours a day, 5 days a
week, 1st grade thru 5th.  I can't describe that since we started in Sept.
(myself included never having done it before) it has the kids overjoyed with
fun and enthusiasm.  I think Ive spent at least $200 on books so I could
keep one step ahead of them.  I am jealous of some of their minds, believe me.

I have made handouts of some of their favorites forms so they don't have to
fight over books.  I buy reems of mixed colored paper and have Kinko's cut
it for me into 7" squares.  I'm pondering what to do with the remaining
strips.

I decided to get organized and bought a very big 3 ring binder.  I filled it
with plastic protector sheets and inside each sheet I put a little sample
with a  copy of the instructions.  This is great because now I find that
more people are asking me to teach their kids and it's an easy reference.
But now I have a question I hope somebody can help with.  How can I store 3
dimensional shapes without getting dirty (I live next to a farmers field
(so. calif) and it gets pretty dusty around here)  Has anyone found a
practical and economical way to keep the little treasures from getting
smashed?  I sure would appreciate some suggestions.  Thank you for this
list, as a newbie, I have been learning a lot but nothing beats practice,
practice, practice.
  <*))))><       <*))))><      <*))))><       <*))))><

        Michele Weise, Artist, Moorpark, CA
         SCRATCHBOARD ART - WATERCOLOR
        http://www.peppertreestudios.com





From: good man <jess2800@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 15:52:11 -0500
Subject: Re: storage question

sounds like what you asre doing is not only instructive and fun but
ingeniuos as well...many cheers and good wishes. as to the storage
problem if you can get empty cartons from wine and liquor shipments
(with the partitions left in) this may provide a partial solution. te
cartons are usually strong and the partitions of different sizes
depending on former occupant. i use this method to store origami models
and xmas ornaments and haven't lost one yet. HAPPY FOLDING AND MERRY
XMAS TO YOU AND YOUR STUDENTS.





From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Israel_Barbero_S=E1nchez?= <barberos@LARURAL.ES>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:54:18 +0100
Subject: Postscript diagrams

Hi all!

Recently I downloaded some origami diagrams in postscript format (files with
".ps" extension) and I can't open them.  My problem is that I don't know any
aplication that can load this format, I would like you to suggest me one
aplication to see them, I will look for it.
If it is possible a small size aplication.

By the way, where can I found christmas diagrams?

Thanks everyone.

Jose Israel Barbero Sanchez
e-mail:       barberos@larural.es





From: "Richard O. Roos" <aolos2@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:26:20 -0600
Subject: Neal Elias and bill nectie?

Hello,

I need help finding diagrams for nectie which utilizes two dollar bills.  I
have a vague memory that the original creator of this model was Neal Elias
but  I could be wrong.   I've done many searches on the web but there seems
to be scant info on Mr Elias.  : (

 I haven't had much luck locating diagrams for the nectie.     Can anyone
offer any tips/info where i might find diagrams for the dollar bill nectie?
Can anyone direct me to any info online about Mr Elias?  I thought i would
check online here first in case anyone knew off the top of their head.  Any
tips would be much appreciated!

rich roos
fremont, ca





From: Sy Chen <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:27:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Postscript diagrams

I would recommend Ghostscript, which can be downloaded from
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html
My 5.1 version for win95 takes about 7Mb disk space.(What's your definition
for small application?) The alternative is Acrobat Reader since most of
postscript diagrams can be converted into pdf format, which can be viewed
by free Acrobat Reader from Adobe.

At 04:54 PM 12/12/98 +0100, Jose wrote:
>Hi all!
>
>Recently I downloaded some origami diagrams in postscript format (files with
>".ps" extension) and I can't open them.  My problem is that I don't know any
>aplication that can load this format, I would like you to suggest me one
>aplication to see them, I will look for it.
>If it is possible a small size aplication.
>
>
>By the way, where can I found christmas diagrams?
>
>Thanks everyone.
>
>Jose Israel Barbero Sanchez
>e-mail:       barberos@larural.es
>
|------------------------------------------------------\
|  _   Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <sychen@erols.com>     |\
| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:51:15 -0800
Subject: Re: Web site changes...

At 21:59 1998-12-12 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm sure that one of the problems is that so many web pages are in a
>constant process of evolution, and it's easy to forget how much a site may
>have changed in 3 months or 6 months.

Too true.

>But it seems that as more site developers are posting, the others will
>follow with updates.  I'm actually pleased by the trend.

Yup!

>Perhaps we could ask a favor of Joseph and ask if it might be possible to
>indicate a "last updated" status for each of the links on his page.  If
>not, then I guess I can just save the individual announcements I get via
>e-mail the way I always have....   :)

Well, unless someone is willing to check on all of the sites listed and
take note of when the latest update was...

Actually, I think I might be able to make this an automatic process. Let me
tinker with the script a little and we'll see what can be done.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t: 604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331  e: josephwu@ultranet.ca
w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Gerardo Fisanotti <fisanott@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:27:13 -0800 (
Subject: folding a square in thirds

Hi everybody,

I'm starting a modular origami model that requires square papers
folded in thirds; my question is: do you know an easy way to fold
a square piece of paper in thirds?

The only way I know is by folding it in fourths and then tearing
one fourth appart (horizontally and vertically) so leaving a square
folded in thirds; the problem is that I think this approach wastes
too much paper and is kind of un-elegant.

Do you know of a better method?

Regards to all origamians.

>From Argentina,

Gerardo Fisanotti.

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com





From: Eric Eros <eros@MOHAWK.ENGR.SGI.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:50:34 -0800
Subject: Re: folding a square in thirds

Dear Gerardo,

        The best souce I know of for methods of dividing the sides of a
square is:

http://www.ask.or.jp/~origami/t/People/CAGE_/divide/index-e.html

--
Eric Eros





From: Cal <cal@CALSWEB.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 05:14:03 -0600
Subject: Re: Web site changes...

There is a free service, that will monitor the web pages, you want, and it will
email you when the page has been updated.  I use it to monitor some sites for me
and I am very happy with it. In the email, you have an ad, but I can withstand
that for it being free.

It is at
http://www.netmind.com

Also, there is a form available for web masters to put on their website. I have
it on my homepage.

Hope this helps,
Cal Hardage
cal@calsweb.com
www.calsweb.com/cws





From: Richard Kennedy <r.a.kennedy@BHAM.AC.UK>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:32:26 +0000
Subject: Re: Neal Elias and bill nectie?

> > I need help finding diagrams for nectie which utilizes two dollar bills.  I
> > have a vague memory that the original creator of this model was Neal Elias
> > but  I could be wrong.   I've done many searches on the web but there seems
> > to be scant info on Mr Elias.  : (

> My friend, Dave Venables of the BOS, is preparing a CR-ROM about Neal Elias
> and his origami. I expect you will have picked this up, if you searched the
> archives of the origami list. The bulk of the material Dave is working from
> are the notebooks in which Elias recorded his models in very cryptic
> sketches (some have been published by the BOS). Next time I see Dave I'll
> ask if he has any recollection of the model you describe. I'm afraid there
> will be a bit of a delay, as I don't expect to see Dave before the end of
> January. I'm afraid I cannot reach him by email.
>
> Richard K
> (R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)

Tried to send this privately, but it looks as if your email address is at
a site that is 'blocked'.





From: Bruce Stephens <b.stephens@ISODE.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:47:20 +0000
Subject: Re: folding a square in thirds

Gerardo Fisanotti <fisanott@HOTMAIL.COM> writes:

> I'm starting a modular origami model that requires square papers
> folded in thirds; my question is: do you know an easy way to fold a
> square piece of paper in thirds?

There are several.  There are exact methods, but these leave extra
creases.  I always use an approximate method.

Guess a third, and make a small crease:

+-----+------------+
|     |            |
|                  |
|                  |

Then fold the other edge to that crease, making another small crease:

+-----+------+-----+
|     |      |     |
|                  |
|                  |

Then fold the original edge (the left edge in this case) to the most
recent little crease, making a new small crease.  This new crease will
exactly coincide with the original crease if the original guess was
exact; otherwise, it will be a better approximation to a third.

Then, just repeat, making better and better approximations.  With
small squares (as you'd typically use for modular models), an
iteration or two is quite sufficient, and you'll often find that your
original guess was close enough.

The same technique works for other divisions, although it's more
annoying for larger numbers of division: you may just prefer to cut
strips off the square.

You can also improve the approximations if you can see that your
original guess was significantly wrong, by matching the raw edge to
somewhere just short of the crease or just past it, depending on
whether you think you underestimated or overestimated a third.





From: Nancy Hulen <nhulen@SOCKETS.NET>
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:01:10 -0600
Subject: Re: Neal Elias and bill nectie?

A dollar bill necktie that may can be made with two or three bills is in
Folding Money volume 2.
It is available from The Source at OUSA
Frenkil/FOLDING MONEY VOLUME 2: 130 pp. PB. (I).   #B10-595.

Nancy Hulen
nhulen@sockets.net

At 08:26 PM 12/13/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I need help finding diagrams for nectie which utilizes two dollar bills.  I
>have a vague memory that the original creator of this model was Neal Elias
>but  I could be wrong.   I've done many searches on the web but there seems
>to be scant info on Mr Elias.  : (
>
> I haven't had much luck locating diagrams for the nectie.     Can anyone
>offer any tips/info where i might find diagrams for the dollar bill nectie?
>Can anyone direct me to any info online about Mr Elias?  I thought i would
>check online here first in case anyone knew off the top of their head.  Any
>tips would be much appreciated!
>
>rich roos
>fremont, ca





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:14:09 -0500
Subject: Re: folding a square in thirds

> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm starting a modular origami model that requires square papers
> folded in thirds; my question is: do you know an easy way to fold
> a square piece of paper in thirds?
> [snip]
> Do you know of a better method?

Gerardo, here is something I cut from the archives

===========================
===========================
===========================

Here are some earlier posts (there are others, check the archives for
       "Folding paper in fifths").

       +++++++++++++++++++

       This method does require the use of one tool, a piece of lined paper
       (the up side of this method is that it does not put any creases
       in the paper, it just shows you where the edge points are). To
       give credit, Doug Philips showed me this.

       Put a piece of lined paper in front of you with the lines vertically
       oriented.

       Pick any vertical line which is kind of far to the left of the paper
       and number it 0 (zero).

       Number all vertical lines (i.e., 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7), starting with the
       0 line, towards the right edge of the paper.

       Now place the paper to be divided (called THE Paper from now on) on
       top of the lined paper with the edge to be divided oriented towards
       the top.

       Place the upper left corner of THE Paper on line 0.

       To divide the edge into fifths place the upper right corner on the
       vertical line numbered 5 at the top (you may need to move the
       corners of THE Paper so that the upper left corner is near the
       bottom of the lined paper and the upper right corner is nearer
       the top of the lined paper). Mark on THE Paper where its
       upper edge intersects the vertical lines #'ed  1 - 4 and
       you are done.  [Just to be clear there is no folding involved
       you are just sliding THE Paper on top of the lined paper].

       That's it. Again, thanks Doug,
       Jeff Kerwood

       +++++++++

       Just to note that I did not invent or rediscover this method, I
       think I learned it from this list too.

       Just an additional note, you don't even need "lined"
       paper, since any set of equally spaced parallel lines will
       work, if you have an unlined piece of paper that is big
       enough, just divide with book/cupboard/etc.
       folds into 1/4ths, or 1/8ths or however many you need in order to
       get enough lines for the technique.  You don't even need a pen
       or pencil,  because you can fold the paper right as it is lying on
       top of the grid!

       -D'gou

       +++++++++

===========================
===========================
===========================

Hope this helps, Jeff Kerwood





From: Carmine Di Chiara <carmine_dichiara@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:42:34 -0800
Subject: Re: Postscript diagrams

Jose,

My favorite is Aladdin Ghostscript.

Here's a URL:

http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/

Technically it's not small, but it's well done.

Check the site out. It'll be illuminating.

Carmine

---=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Israel_Barbero_S=E1nchez?=
<barberos@LARURAL.ES> wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> Recently I downloaded some origami diagrams in postscript format
(files with
> ".ps" extension) and I can't open them.  My problem is that I don't
know any
> aplication that can load this format, I would like you to suggest me
one
> aplication to see them, I will look for it.
> If it is possible a small size aplication.
>
>
> By the way, where can I found christmas diagrams?
>
> Thanks everyone.
>
> Jose Israel Barbero Sanchez
> e-mail:       barberos@larural.es
>

==
-------
Carmine Di Chiara
carmine_dichiara@yahoo.com
        Beyond each corner new directions lie in wait.
                - Stanislaw Lec
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:35:29 -0500
Subject: Re: folding a square in thirds

Eric Eros indited:

>         The best souce I know of for methods of dividing the sides of a
> square is:
>
> http://www.ask.or.jp/~origami/t/People/CAGE_/divide/index-e.html

Agreed, that is a great source.  Aside from the parallel lines method that
Jeff Kerwood excerpted from the archives, I prefer NOMA's method (from the URL
listed above) as it only puts the tiniest of creases on the edge of the square
-AND- it gives you a real mark on the edge of the paper too.  HAGA's method
uses less pinch marks, put you get your result as overlapping edges of the
square, which is hard to be accurate with if you do not crease the square and
besides, you still have to use a pen or thumbnail crease to mark where the
edges overlap.

-D'gou





From: Rosalinda Sanchez <RRosalinda@AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:16:02 -0500 (
Subject: Flower Towers

After a few tries, I finally figured out how to fold one of Chris Palmer's
eight petal flower towers.  Although the topmost octagon is flat rather than
the kind of pinwheel effect I have seen on Tom Hull's site, I am rather happy
with the results.  Does anybody know how Chris Palmer gets them onto his
boxes?  Does he fold the lid of the box with the flower tower on top from one
square sheet of paper?  Has anyone been successful in making one?  If so, can
you offer some advice to point me in the right direction?  Thanks.





From: Jason C Troye <troyejas@PILOT.MSU.EDU>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:21:48 -0500
Subject: paper questions

Hello,
I have two questions about paper.
1.  Is there any paper that is more tear resistant than others?
    (praying mantis problems)

2.  What type of paper is used for the models on the cover of David Brill's
"Brilliant Origami" ?

Thanks in advance,
Jason C. Troye
troyejas@pilot.msu.edu





From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:55:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Flower Towers

Heeeey...

Rosalinda Sanchez asked about how Chris Palmer gets his flower
towers on top of a box.

These type of "twist patterns" are nice in that they ONLY use
the center of the paper, as opposed to the border of the paper.
That is, if you make a square twist in the middle of a square piece
of paper, the result will be a smaller "square" of paper, with some
extra layers and little flappy things sticking out of the corners.
Same thing with an octagon twist - it just shrinks the paper.
How much it shrinks the paper depends on how big the twist is.

Same thing with flower towers!  If you take a large
square of paper and fold a small (say, 2 tier) flower tower
in the middle, then the rest of the paper will be flat and
roughly square-shaped, aside from some pleats coming out
of the flower tower.  This part of the paper can then be made into
a nice, traditional masu box!

So first you need to know how to fold the classic masu box.  Maybe
diagrams for this exist on the web?  I dunno.  I'm sure a reference
could be found in the archives or model index.

Then I suggest the following exercise: make a masu box with an
octagon twist on the top.  (Chris Palmer taught a class on
this at an OUSA convention several years ago.)  This is somewhat
tricky, but the strategy you use to put an octagon twist on
top of the box is the same that you use to put a flower tower
on it.

These are very cool projects, and very much worth the effort.
I highly suggest using large paper, especially elephant hide,
if you can find it.

Happy folding!

--- Tom "when he's not proving theorems all he wants to do is JAM!" Hull

PS (please pardon the bantering) If you're in the USA and want to do
something against the partisan-based impeachment crisis, check out
http://www.moveon.org





From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@FANTASYFARM.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:13:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Flower Towers

On 14 Dec 98, at 14:55, Thomas C Hull wrote:

> Then I suggest the following exercise: make a masu box with an
> octagon twist on the top.  (Chris Palmer taught a class on
> this at an OUSA convention several years ago.)  This is somewhat
> tricky, but the strategy you use to put an octagon twist on
> top of the box is the same that you use to put a flower tower
> on it.

I believe that Chris walks you through how to do this on his video.

 /Bernie\
--
Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
mailto:bernie@fantasyfarm.com     Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--





From: "Campbell, Jennifer" <CampbellJ@DFO-MPO.GC.CA>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:32:17 -0500
Subject: dividing paper into thirds--once

Hi everyone,
Hope this comment is timely, as I subscribe in DIGEST format.
Maybe this isn't origami-kosher, but I don't particularly like folding into
thirds. So I do it once, as perfectly as I can, and I use this as a guide
for the next time I fold the model. I happen to use an iterative technique.
When the "guide" is finished I tuck it into the book ready for next time.
This year (as in the past) for Christmas ornaments I'm folding the angel at
the back of Origami Omnibus, which requires an angular division into thirds.
I sure was glad to find the guide I left there last year! Now I can enjoy
making the angels without fussing over that step. I suppose this falls into
the category of "using tools", which some people find distasteful. But to me
it is a lesser evil than performing that division each time!

Jennifer.





From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@WORLD.STD.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:36:01 -0500
Subject: here I am!

To all my friends, please update your email address books.  I am now
reachable at j9@world.std.com.  I have been having some internet
connection problems for the past week, due to a change of employment.
(I really do have the same job, but due to incredibly complex business
machinations, I work for a different company in a different location
at a different email address.)

        -- Jeannine Mosely





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:40:29 -0500 (
Subject: Endla Saar.

Yet again D'gou throws down his gauntlet;

But Endla Saar is easy: she was the subject of the Origamian Profile in Volume
6, issue 1 for Spring, 1966. It makes impressive reading. I can do no better
than quote from the beginning of the Profile. It is Alice Gray who is writing:

"Few paperfolders have heard of Endla Saar, and fewer still, have met her: but
everyone who reads the Origamian or attends meetings at the Origami Center is
deeply in her debt. It is the boast of the Origami Center that it offers its
subscribers and participants folds that cannot be found in the public library.
It is Endla Saar who makes good that boast. Endla is the research department
of the Origami Center, the person who tracks down in foreign publications
folds of exceptional originality, and who works out a teachable method of
folding complicated originals contributed by their creators to the study
collection of the Center. Lillian, or Natalie [Natalie Epstein] or Alice
teaches the class, but Endla teaches the teacher. When we say we do not know
what we would do without her, we speak the simple truth.

"Endla Muda was born on the northern seacoast of Estonia. Studious and fond of
children, she grew up to be a kindergarten teacher. During her training, she
became acquainted with the "beauty folds" of Froebel, and paperfolding has
been a hobby with her ever since.

"In 1944, the Russian army occupied Estonia. Knowing something about the
Russians as jailers, many Estonians preferred to be interned by the Germans.
Only hours before the arrival of the Russian trops, Endla fled to Germany with
her fiance, a young lawyer, Paul Saar.

"Endla and Paul were married in Germany, and there they spent the first five
years of their marriage in a camp for displaced persons. Endla conducted a
kindergarten for the children of the intrnees. At the war's end, the Displaced
Persons Act of 1949 brought the Saars to the United States. They now live in
New York City.

"Endla and the Origami Center became acquainted through the historic Origami
Exhibition at Cooper Union in the summer of 1959. Endla read about the show in
the New York Times and attended a demonstration of paperfolding by Lillian
Oppenheimer which was a feature of the exhibition. The two women fell into
converstaion and discovered that each was in a position to help the other.
Lillian could supply Endla with new and fascinating models for study, and
Endla could subsequently tell Lillian how the models could be made and taught.
Both ladies find this a hightly satisfatory arrngement.

"Endla Saar is fundamentally a scholar............"

I have quoted more than I intended and I hope that Origami USA will forgive me
for breaching Alice's copyright. But it is a long time since I read that
profile and in the light of knowlege which I have gained, It throws a new
light on life at the Origami Center in the 1960s. There was more to it that
Origami Mondays, the production of the Origamian and the sale of books and
paper.

The Profile shows, too, how Lillian, a second generation New Yorker, embraced
all those of whatever race, who were forced to leave Europe as a result of War
and the persecutions that took place. I am impressed, too by the number of
those people from Europe (Natalie Epstein was one of the most prominent) who
were brought up in the Froebel tradition and who brought with them to the
Origami Center, the folding of the Kindergartens. There it mingled with the
folding of magicians and bill folders, the paperfolding of South America, the
spontaneous folding of people like Giuseppi Baggi, the traditional
paperfolding nurtured by generations of schoolchildren in the playgrounds of
the United States and now, the magical new Origami of Akira Yoshizawa. What a
glorious melting pot it all was! And what a stimulus and breeding groungd for
the folders of a new era!

I have culled this from a now ageing copy of The Origamian which is beginning
to yellow with age and crack at the creases and which I am reluctant to look
at more than absolutely necessary. It reinforces my belief that the Origamian
must be reprinted on good quality acid-free paper, to preserve it for future
generations. It is a mine on information on all aspects of paperfolding and I
hope that Origami USA will take up the challenge now presented to them.

My only disapointment is that this issue of the Origamian does not include one
of Engla Saar's own models. (There are flowers by Eric Drew and Ligia Montoya
and a bowl by Florence Temko.) Perhaps someone else might like to collect
together all of Endla's own folds as a tribute to her.

David Lister.

Grimsby, England.

DLister891@AOL.com





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:03:39 +0000
Subject: Merry Xmas

If you pop to my homepage, there's a link to a Christmas card for anyone
who might like to see it. Please accept this in lieu of a printed one!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:47:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Endla Saar.

David Lister indited:

> Yet again D'gou throws down his gauntlet;

And yet again David Lister has picked it up, dusted it off, and presented us
with a jewel which I hope will be added to his other jewels on the BOS web
site.

Thank you, David Lister!

> at more than absolutely necessary. It reinforces my belief that the Origamian
> must be reprinted on good quality acid-free paper, to preserve it for future
> generations. It is a mine on information on all aspects of paperfolding and I
> hope that Origami USA will take up the challenge now presented to them.

I quite agree.  I haven't seen much about this on the list lately, has it died
the death of too many volunteers with too many different ideas, or is there
something happening, a quiet rustling of papers and humming of scanners and
ticking of OCR programs?  Just curious.

-D'gou





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:56:05 +0100
Subject: Re: paper questions

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Jason C Troye wrote:
> 1.  Is there any paper that is more tear resistant than others?
>     (praying mantis problems)

Err, yes, foil-backed paper. See
http://www.origami.net/homes/od/e/projects/foil-backing.html (Oh, and I
see that I forgot to credit Robert Lang for the invention of this method.
Sorry, Robert! I'll add it in the next revision.)

> 2.  What type of paper is used for the models on the cover of David Brill's
> "Brilliant Origami" ?

I believe he used some kind of backcoated mulberry paper. Joseph Wu's page
http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/ has (or at least had) some
instructions on how to make it.

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: Julie Rhodes <kettir@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 03:48:51 +0000 (
Subject: folding a square in thirds

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:00:02 -0500, you wrote:

>I'm starting a modular origami model that requires square papers
>folded in thirds; my question is: do you know an easy way to fold
>a square piece of paper in thirds?

I ususally fold over one side so that I see two "sides" that are equal.  I
do pretty well by "eyeballing" it.  By this I mean taking the left side,
and placing the left edge inward with a valley fold so that the left piece
I can see looks the same as the right piece I can see.  If you do that, the
piece you can't see (the other third) *has* to be equal to the other two.
----------------------------------------------------------------<*>---
kettir at           /\ /\   | "History shows again and again
geocities dot com  = o_o =  |  How Nature points up the folly of men."





From: Darren Abbey <darren_a@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:01:33 -0600
Subject: web page update

Hello everyone, just here to let you know that I've updated my personal
site.   No new diagrams yet, but I've done some work that I would like
to present for critism.   I was doing some flat origami constructions
when I got annoyed at the space my step diagrams were taking up and
ended up creating my own little method for writing them down.   It seems
to be useful for what I've been  doing and I'd appreciate your opinions
on it.

The url for the page is :
http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~psycho/origami2.html

Thanks.
--
Darren Abbey (darren_a@mail.utexas.edu)
home page :
   http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~psycho/
