




From: Hatori Koshiro <hatori@JADE.DTI.NE.JP>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:52:45 +0900
Subject: Re: rose problems

>   I have been working day and night on Kawasaki's rose.  I am following the
> diagram from the web and I am having trouble passing from step 24 to
> step 25.  The folds in step 24 don't appear to match up with the finished
> product in 25.  Maybe I am just dizzy from looking at it for countless hours.
> I am trying to fold 12 roses for my girlfriend's B-day, so far I have zero.
> Please help.
> Thanks in advance,
> Jason Troye.

Try to find a copy of Kawasaki-san's new book
"Bara to Origami to Sugaku to"
(Roses, Origami, and Mathematics) ISBN4-627-01671-9.
It has detailed diagrams of roses.
They are written in Japanese, but I think you can read diagrams.

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From: Chong Kwai Fun <jasmine@DLSJUBM.COM.MY>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:43:38 +0800
Subject: Re: rose problems

i didn't know that u can fold roses using paper but i do fold roses using
     drinking straws. If u would like to have further details about that u can
     mail me back. I don't think there's any website that's offering
     this"drinking straw craft". Just to tell u
-----Original Message-----
Sent:   11 November, 1998 1:02 AM

  I have been working day and night on Kawasaki's rose.  I am following the
diagram from the web and I am having trouble passing from step 24 to
step 25.  The folds in step 24 don't appear to match up with the finished
product in 25.  Maybe I am just dizzy from looking at it for countless hours.
I am trying to fold 12 roses for my girlfriend's B-day, so far I have zero.
Please help.
Thanks in advance,
Jason Troye.

p.s.  I was told that folding was a relaxing activity.
I don't have any fingernails left.





From: Chong Kwai Fun <jasmine@DLSJUBM.COM.MY>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:54:19 +0800
Subject: straw folding

i'm sorry to make everybody mistaken that the straw folding was actually
     folding from drinking straw, not the other type of straws that some of you
     might have mentioned it to me. So now that the thing is cleared, does
     anyone has any idea where to get book

YOU HAVE BEEN MAILED BY JASMINE CHONG





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:02:42 +0100
Subject: Re: Straw Folding

Following D. Lister's wonderful letter. (his occasional letters alone are
worth the effort of opening the email each day )

In the Phillipines, during the fifties, I saw entire houses essentially
folded, woven and tied together from palm fronds and bamboo. A friend of
mine had one made to order for something like $100. Baskets and mats were
also produced in volume.

Also --- in the U.S., in the 30's and 40's, various objects were fashioned
by folding, braiding and twisting, by children in my hometown of Irvington,
N.J., from scrap wire insulation (plastic tubes about 1/8" to 1/4"
diameter) made by the Irvington Varnish Works --- later acquired by 3M. We
raided their scrap piles at least monthly. These plastics were new to the
world at that time.

Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
<<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Stephen Canon <Stephen_Canon@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:35:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Modular Soccer Ball Question

Tomoko Fuse has directions for a flat hexagonal unit in her book "Unit
Origami".
Using these units you can construct the truncated icosahedron with windows for
the pentagonal faces.
Alternatively, you could design pentagonal modules to fill in the holes.  I
came
up with a design a few years ago, but I can't seem to find it.  If I can
remember,
I'll let you know.

Good luck!
Stephen Canon

At 10-22 PM 10U11U98 -0500, you wrote:
>Greetings.
>        I am attempting to make a realistic soccer ball (truncated
icosahedron).  I
>am usually a purist, but decided that a purist soccer ball may prove
>troublesome (I haven't really seen any), so now I'm deciding between modular
>styles.  The two I have available to me are the Sonobe units from OftC and
the
>polygonal style from Origami Omnibus.  However, it seems that for the former,
>the resulting ball would really be covered in a series of pyramids, which was
>not quite the effect I wanted. As such, I'm looking more closely at the
>latter, which seems to require very specific ratios of paper size for the
>hexagons to fit with the pentagons and the joining tabs.  How does one obtain
>large amounts of such specifically sized paper (a paper cutter, I suppose,
may
>be my last resort, but even then the cuts are not exact)? Also, does anyone
>know of any other, realistic modular soccer balls besides these two? Thanks
>for any help.
>
>Have fun!
>David C.





From: "<Ryan Becker>" <RyBecker@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:55:44 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Ears of the Jun Maekawa Devil

In a message dated 11/9/98 10:12:11 PM, Rob wrote:

<<This is a repost from 5/18.  Now that more people have the book (I hope!)
you can see for yourself.>>

This statement led me to believe that "Viva Origami" is back in print.  Is
that true?





From: Rona Gurkewitz <GURKEWITZ@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:04:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Modular Soccer Ball Question

You can make soccerballs that are mostly airy from the one piece
triangle module in "3D Geometric Origami: Modular Polyhedra".
The module is made from an equilateral triangle and it takes
60 modules to make a soccer ball. The module is simple. Making
the triangles is not too hard if you make a sheet of them at a
time.

Rona





From: Dania El Iraqi <dana_near_you@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:22:49 -0800
Subject: Hello!

Hello Everyone,

I'm a new subscriber at this Group. My name is Dania (Dana for short)
and I'm from Egypt. I'm very much interested in Origami although I'm
not a professional. There's very little I know about Origami, that's
why I feel a bit confused with all these messages. I'd like to know
the best sites about Origami where I can learn about its history and
the simple diagrams, before going into these complicated diagrams I've
read you talking about. At the end I'd like to say how glad I am to be
a member of this group.

Best greetings from Egypt.
Dana
_________________________________________________________
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com





From: David <tamagotchi@MINDSPRING.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:29:14 -0500
Subject: Paper Question

Hi ...
Can anyone tell me if origami paper can be bought that is gold foil on one side
and patterned on the other side, say a traditional japanese print or something?
Any sources out there that someone can put me on to?

Thanks,
David Harter





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:11:51 +0100
Subject: http://www.papershops.com/origami.htm

I am new to Origami, having backed into this field after inventing a
Boxmaker which, it turns out can be used to make origami type boxes out of
cardstock.
The subject URL is one screen on our website that is concerned with Origami
--- it has the following areas.
AREA 01 ORIGAMI BOXES
AREA 02 SQUARE ORIGAMI BOXES
AREA 03 ORIGAMI CHRISTMAS ORNAMENT & BALL
AREA 04 ORIGAMI CRANES
AREA 05 HIGHLIGHTS FROM BOS
AREA 06 3D ORIGAMI

We invite comments from all visitors and are particularly interested to
know if we have followed customary guidelines in giving credit to the
not give myself credit for Area 1 and Area 2 --- although boxes like these
have been made by others and are, in fact, available commercially, I think
the methods of construction shown are original and I would appreciate
hearing from anyone to the contrary.

I also now realize that the Wreaths and Flying Rings and the Paper Folding
Project on <<<http://www.papershops.com/information.htm>>> should be on the

We would be happy to put up any Origami information that members of this
mailing group might want to send to us or direct us to. We expect most of
the people visiting our site will not know much about Origami --- so
whatever we put up should be either simple or interesting to a non-Origami
audience.

The site is a commercial site and we hope to make money with it -- we hope
this does not disqualify us from asking for your help and interest.

Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
<<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Dr Stephen O'Hanlon <fishgoth@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:29:31 -0800 (
Subject: Re: Modular Soccer Ball Question

Just a few quick notes...
I always use a blade cutter, a blade mounted to a ruler, and a quality
protractor. Sorry I cant be more helpful.

By the way, the correct name for a soccer ball is a 'football'. Im not
sure why americans insist on calling it 'soccer'. Something to do with
'socks'? Wouldnt surprise me...what that call a 'football' isnt ball
shaped and has very little contact with feet.

Stephen (awaits flames :) )

>Greetings.
>        I am attempting to make a realistic soccer ball (truncated
icosahedron).  I
>am usually a purist, but decided that a purist soccer ball may prove
>troublesome (I haven't really seen any), so now I'm deciding between
modular
>styles.  The two I have available to me are the Sonobe units from OftC
and the
>polygonal style from Origami Omnibus.  However, it seems that for the
former,
>the resulting ball would really be covered in a series of pyramids,
which was
>not quite the effect I wanted. As such, I'm looking more closely at the
>latter, which seems to require very specific ratios of paper size for
the
>hexagons to fit with the pentagons and the joining tabs.  How does one
obtain
>large amounts of such specifically sized paper (a paper cutter, I
suppose, may
>be my last resort, but even then the cuts are not exact)? Also, does
anyone
>know of any other, realistic modular soccer balls besides these two?
Thanks
>for any help.
>
>Have fun!
>David C.
>

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From: Roger Mccormick <KapelMstr@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:49:33 -0500 (
Subject: Re: straw folding

I don't know about drinking straw folding.  But I remember my cousin had made
a giant 3-dimensional polygon when he was studying architecture.  The straws
were used whole and a connected by a thread that ran through the insides of
the straws.  I remember each "star" was about 2 feet in diameter.  I believe
he came up with this design on his own.  You might want to experiment with
this idea.

Roger





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:10:29 -0500
Subject: Re: Modular Soccer Ball Question

David

> How does one obtain
> large amounts of such specifically sized paper (a paper cutter, I
> suppose, may be my last resort, but even then the
> cuts are not exact)?

Here is an excerpt from an email I posted to the group recently. This does
involve cutting with exacto and straight-edge but my results are accurate.

-----------------

For pentagons and hexagons I use AutoShapes in
WORD97 to create a Word document containing those shapes (which are
proportionally scaleable by holding down the Shift (I think) key while
dragging to resize (I think there is also an option to say always keep
proportional ?)). Then I print out the shape, lay THAT page on top of my
KAMI (or what ever) and using the printed page as a template cut out BOTH
sheets. This has worked great and a benefit of doing it this way is that
you always get a practice paper for each real paper you cut :-). {If
anybody wants me to forward them my WORD doc of shapes I'll be glad to
(assuming I don't get way to many requests :-) email me privately and I'll
send it, without warranty :-) to you}.

----------------

Hope this helps and let me know if I can be of any other help,
Jeff Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:40:01 -0600
Subject: NO: football FLAME

Hi Doc:

Too Funny! Hey it makes sense to us!!
That's interesting.....what do you call an American Football then???

Dr Stephen O'Hanlon wrote:

> By the way, the correct name for a soccer ball is a 'football'. Im not
> sure why americans insist on calling it 'soccer'. Something to do with
> 'socks'? Wouldnt surprise me...what that call a 'football' isnt ball
> shaped and has very little contact with feet.
>
> Stephen (awaits flames :) )





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:50:19 -0600
Subject: Re: Hello!

Hi Dana:

Welcome to the list. You will want to check out Joseph Wu's page for sure!
It has everything you are looking for and some links if you want more!
Here is the url:

http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/

I'm fairly new to the list also.....I just pass up all that complex stuff
for now...hey just wait till they start talking mathematics again, it will
blow your mind  :)

Kathy  <*))))><





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:01:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Hello!

Kathy wrote:
>hey just wait till they start talking mathematics again,
>it will blow your mind  :)

Have we been lax about keeping up the math conversation of late?
I know I've been distracted by work---is it "_in_ the coordinate
plane" or "_on_ the coordinate plane?!

ObOrigami & Math: One of my coworker/friends just told me
she's getting married. I don't really want to fold another thousand
cranes. She's really into pigs, maybe I'll fold 1000 base 4
"pigs that fly". . . . Would that be equivalent? They *would*
make a nice mobile.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:49:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Hello!

Lisa Hodsdon indited:

> cranes. She's really into pigs, maybe I'll fold 1000 base 4
> "pigs that fly". . . . Would that be equivalent? They *would*
> make a nice mobile.

The other question is what are the cultural implications for the wedding
parties families?

Otherwise, I think it is a great idea!

-D'gou

ObDigression: excuse me Mr. Flying Pig, are you with the bride's squadron or
the grooms?





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:32:55 -0600
Subject: New Model

Hi!

I just finished making the final diagrams for Twisted dancer
(based on a twist fold) and put them on my web page.

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <----Web Page with Diagrams!





From: Bernie Cosell <bernie@FANTASYFARM.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:51:35 -0500
Subject: Re: NO: Copyrights
Priority: normal

On 12 Nov 98 at 21:19, Krystyna Burczyk wrote:

> I'm planning to put diagrams for units: [...]

> How can I get permision from copyrights holder ?

There are two steps in getting permission to use a copyrighted work.
The hard part is figuring out who the copyright holder(s) is/are.  The
easy part is seeking permission.

I've talked to lawyers and there is unanimity that in worst-cases it
can be basically impossible to figure out who a copyright holder is
[that doesn't mean that the work isn't copyrighted, but only that
there's no effective way to secure permission.  One lawyer friend said
that it often the case that the first you know that you secured
permission from the wrong person is when the REAL copyright holder's
lawyer comes and knocks on your door...  BUT: in the specific
case of a license for something in a book published by a
pubisher who is still in business [preferably without
takeovers..:o)] things are relatively easy [at least to -start- picking
up the copyright-thread]:

You simply write a letter to "Permissions department" or "Legal
department" of the publisher of the book and ask for what you want.

They'll want to know things like "how many copies", "what media",
"commercial or not".  But in my experience, the permissions/legal
deperatments have always been friendly and helpful, and so don't worry
too much about form and completeness and such: if they want more
details or for you to sign some kind of license or another, they'll let
you know.

If you're in the same country [and speak the same language! :o)] as the
publisher, one easy way to get the ball rolling in a hurry is simply to
call them.  Every publisher I've dealt with has a legal dept on staff,
and so you'll get quickly routed to someone who'll be able to answer
your questions and tell you what to do next.

Note that the answer you might get is "we no longer hold the copyright
next as you chase down the thread...

  /Bernie\
--
Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers
mailto:bernie@fantasyfarm.com     Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--





From: Stephen Canon <Stephen_Canon@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:59:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Modular Soccer Ball Question

At 09-09 PM 12U11U98 +0100, you wrote:
>Hello David
>
>You can try strut modules or vertex modules:
>
>1. Open frame II by Tomoko Fuse, page 65 of Unit Origami (Tomoko Fuse,
Unit Origami. Multidimensional Transformations, Japan Publications Inc.,
Tokio and New York 1990, ISBN 0-87040-852-6).

Unfortunately, the Open Frame II module cannot make angles larger than 90
degrees... so it can't be used to produce the truncated icosahedron, as the
angles of the hexagons are of course 120.





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:13:28 +0100
Subject: Re: Modular Soccer Ball Question

Stephen,
At 03.29 12/11/1998 PST, you wrote:

>By the way, the correct name for a soccer ball is a 'football'. Im not
>sure why americans insist on calling it 'soccer'.

Here is a provocatory and hopeless suggestion to our American friends: why
not rename "football" (as the rest of the world does....) what they call
"soccer", and rename "eggball" what they call "football"..... ? ;-)

Roberto





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:25:47 -0500
Subject: Wedding Pigs [Was Re: Hello!]

D'gou opined:

>Lisa Hodsdon indited:

>> cranes. She's really into pigs, maybe I'll fold 1000 base 4
>> "pigs that fly". . . . Would that be equivalent? They *would*
>> make a nice mobile.

>The other question is what are the cultural implications for
>the wedding parties families?

Well, I haven't met him, but it *is* his fourth marriage.
Do you think he might be offended?

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: "Wu, Sonia" <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:51:43 -0500
Subject: Re: two book enquiries (long)

Martin,

I'm not sure if any of the models were previously unpublished, but do
double-check the ISBN against those of your current books, just in
case...

Sonia

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Gibson [SMTP:mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 2:56 AM
> To:   ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject:      two book enquiries (long)
>
> I don't know how unpopular it makes one to continually aks questions
> about
> particular books, but as this mailing list is the only resource I know
> of
> where you can get honest answers to your origami book questions, I
> will
> have be a pain :}.
>
> Whilst flicking through the online bookstores I came across two book
> which
> caught my eye. The first was by Akira Yoshizawa, translated as
> "Compilation of Masterworks by Akira Yoahizawa" ISBN 4916096312.
>
> I currently own Creative Origami & Origami Museum I, and I enjoy both
> immensely.
> The character and life that his models posess just awe me at times.
> The
> simplicity of his models, and the encouraging words he has to
> offer with each diagram have given me confidence to modify and 'play'
> with
> his creations, even arranging mini-displays to try and emmulate the
> lovely
> photographs included in each of his books.
>
> As you can imagine I am sorely tempted to purchase the aforementioned
> book, though I generally like to hear the opinions of others who are
> more
> knowledgeable than myself before making this large a financial
> committment. Specific questions I have include:
> * is it true that the models included are previously unpublished?
> * how would the book rate in people's Yoshizawa collection, especially
> when compared to the other two books I own.
>
> Any other comments are of course welcome and appreciated.
>
> I was also intrigued by the book simply titled "The Mask" by Tomoko
> Fuse (no ISBN) found at Origami House and Fascinating Folds. How many
> masks would be included in this book, and what range of difficulty
> would
> you give it?
>
> If I do go ahead with these purchases I hope to write a book review
> for
> the list, thereby giving back some of what I take.
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> /\/
> Michael Janssen-Gibson                 e-mail: mig@isd.canberra.edu.au
> ISD, Library                   phone/voice mail: +61 6 (06)  201 5271
> University of Canberra
> PO Box 1 Belconnen, ACT 2616





From: Dennis Walker <TheWalkers@INAME.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:48:52 +0000
Subject: NO: Football

Hi

        If anyone is interested, the derivations of the names is as follows.

        The original name of the game in England was simply Football. This
became distinct from the other game when someone picked up the ball and
ran with it. This (supposedly)took place at Rugby School in England.

        This lead to two different games and so two different names:-
        Association Football  and
        Rugby Football.

        Rugby football (which is very similar to American Football, but I think
that Rugby was first and also uses the same shape ball which we call a
Rugby Ball) became known in common parlance as Rugger.
        Similarly, Association or Assoc. Football became known as Soccer!

        Rugby -> Rugger;
        Assoc. -> Soccer;

        They are both called football, but in Britain they are referred to as
football (for association football) and rugby (for, obviously, rugby
football).

        Just a little aside.

                                        Dennis





From: Krystyna Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:09:11 +0100
Subject: Re: Modular Soccer Ball Question

Hello David

You can try strut modules or vertex modules:

1. Open frame II by Tomoko Fuse, page 65 of Unit Origami (Tomoko Fuse, Unit
     Origami. Multidimensional Transformations, Japan Publications Inc., Tokio
     and New York 1990, ISBN 0-87040-852-6).

2. Penultimate module by Jim Planck, http://www.cs.utk.edu/~plank/plank/pics/ori
     gami/penultimate/intro.html

3. Vertex module by Bennett Arnstein, page 37 of 3-D Geometric Origami Modular
     Polyhedra (Rona Gurkewitz, Bennett Arnstein, 3-D Geometric Origami Modular
     Polyhedra, Dover Publications, Inc., New York 1995, ISBN 0-486-28863-3).

You can build the truncated icosahedron using several identical modules, so
     there is no problem with sizing of paper.

You can find photos of these models on my origami page:
http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/galery1.html
This page is in Polish, but you can see on pictures instead of text.

Best regards
Wojtek Burczyk

-----Original message-----
Od: David Chow <Davegchow@AOL.COM>
Do: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Data: 12 listopada 1998 01:19
Temat: Modular Soccer Ball Question

Greetings.
        I am attempting to make a realistic soccer ball (truncated icosahedron).
..
Also, does anyone know of any other, realistic modular soccer balls besides
     these two? Thanks for any help.

Have fun!
David C.





From: Krystyna Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:19:34 +0100
Subject: Copyrights

I'm planning to put diagrams for units:

1. Open frame II by Tomoko Fuse, page 65 of Unit Origami (Tomoko Fuse, Unit
     Origami. Multidimensional Transformations, Japan Publications Inc., Tokio
     and New York 1990, ISBN 0-87040-852-6).

2. Vertex module by Bennett Arnstein, page 37 of 3-D Geometric Origami Modular
     Polyhedra (Rona Gurkewitz, Bennett Arnstein, 3-D Geometric Origami Modular
     Polyhedra, Dover Publications, Inc., New York 1995, ISBN 0-486-28863-3).

to acompany my models build with these units.

How can I get permision from copyrights holder ?
Can anybody help me ?

Wojtek
http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/





From: jfirestone <jfirestone@MILEHIGH.NET>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:39:58 -0700
Subject: washington state folders

Hi everyone,

I just landed a job with microsoft and have to go to redmond, wa for 2
weeks, are there any folders in the area, meetings, you can reply via my
private e-mail address

  jfirestone@milehigh.net

thanks

david walker





From: Julie Rhodes <kettir@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 02:56:51 +0000 (
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 11 Nov 1998 to 12 Nov 1998

I'm thinking that if you select an appropriate origami, then figure out
where to put the text so that when it's folded the text will be readable,
that would make an amazing wedding invitation, wouldn't it?

On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:00:01 -0500, you wrote:

>> cranes. She's really into pigs, maybe I'll fold 1000 base 4
>> "pigs that fly". . . . Would that be equivalent? They *would*
>> make a nice mobile.
>
>The other question is what are the cultural implications for the wedding
>parties families?

----------------------------------------------------------------<*>---
kettir at           /\ /\   | "History shows again and again
geocities dot com  = o_o =  |  How Nature points up the folly of men."





From: Gerardo Fisanotti <fisanott@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 05:10:53 -0800 (
Subject: Modular Soccer Ball Question

David,

I'm new to this list, and I've had origami as one of my hobbies since I
was a boy
but I've just recently (one year ago) discovered what some people call
"modular"
or "unit" origami and I instantly became a follower of this origami
form.

Concerning your specific question about directions to build a soccer
ball (other-
wise called truncated icosahedron or "bucky ball" or "fullerene" for its
similarity
with the Carbon-60 molecule, most of my friends say "Oh, una pelota de
fztbol" when
the see the truncated icosahedrons I made) I would suggest to check Jim
Plank's
web site and his penultimate polyhedra units, Tom Hull's page for his
pentagon-
hexagon zig-zag module, and Valerie Vann's page:

http://chasm.merrimack.edu/~thull/OrigamiMath.html  -> Tom Hull's page.
http://people.delphi.com/vvann/index.html  ->  Valerie Vann's page
http://www.cs.utk.edu/~plank/plank/pics/origami/origami.html - Jim
Plank's page

I've built bucky balls using each of these units and one based on the
Sonobe
unit, all of them are beautiful and incredibly stable and solid.

I plan to publish pics of some of my models in my web page soon.

About how to cut the amount of units required: I like to consider myself
a purist
too, so I refuse to use any tools, I always fold and rip (is this the
right English
word?) or tear my units by hand, consider you'll need 90 units to build
most of
these bucky balls.

Regards to all the origami fans,

>From Argentina,

Gerardo Fisanotti.

Greetings.
        I am attempting to make a realistic soccer ball (truncated
icosahedron).
I am usually a purist, but decided that a purist soccer ball may prove
troublesome (I haven't really seen any), so now I'm deciding between
modular
styles.  The two I have available to me are the Sonobe units from OftC
and the
polygonal style from Origami Omnibus.  However, it seems that for the
former,
the resulting ball would really be covered in a series of pyramids,
which was
not quite the effect I wanted. As such, I'm looking more closely at the
latter, which seems to require very specific ratios of paper size for
the
hexagons to fit with the pentagons and the joining tabs.  How does one
obtain
large amounts of such specifically sized paper (a paper cutter, I
suppose, may
be my last resort, but even then the cuts are not exact)? Also, does
anyone
know of any other, realistic modular soccer balls besides these two?
Thanks
for any help.

Have fun!
David C.

               ------------------------------

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From: Herman Lau <hlau@ARB.CA.GOV>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:02:31 -0800
Subject: Re: ET from developmental plans

Jorma Oksanen wrote:

> On 22-Oct-98, Askinazi, Brett (brett@HAGERHINGE.COM) wrote:
>
> >I would like to know how you did the ET model though.
> >I have been trying that one for a while and never can get it right.
>
>   I've tried to find an easy-to-diagram method to
> fold the crease patern, but haven't succeeded yet.
>
> --
> Jorma Oksanen   tenu@sci.fi
>

I did manage to fold it from the crease pattern when I first got the book
over 10 years ago as Top Origami and did work out a logical,
straightforward, step by step folding sequence without any collapsing,
precreasing, or judgement folds (except for the face).  I recently looked
up my notes on this and compared it with Maartin Van Gelder's diagrams
from his archives.   I can try to describe the sequence of folds leading
to the main base.  This sequence will eliminate all the precreasing and
collapsing.  Most importantly it gives you the correct location and
spacings for the guidepoints and guidelines without eyeballing,
estimating, or guessing.
Briefly: you start with a bird base. Have it flat on the table with the
corners pointing towards you. Lift the left flap, squash it and return it
to the left. Repeat on the right side (you're actually making the start
of a frog base from the bird base but using just two adjacent flaps). You
have two points inside on the bottom that you can reverse fold: reverse
fold the left point to the left and the other to the right, reversing
each of them at right angles as far as it will go, and that the raw edges
is in line with the raw edges of the bird base. The right angle reverse
folds will be constrained by the "frog base" flaps you made and if you
were to open up the paper you should see that the two reverse fold you
just made will now delineate 2 squares which are the same 2 squares on
the lower left and top right corners of the crease pattern in the book
(these 2 squares will become fingers - lot's of examples of how to make
fingers in "Viva Origami".  These 2 squares are also not in Van Gelder's
crease pattern diagram - so use the crease pattern in the BOOK).   (By
the way, another way to fold these two squares is to just precrease it in
by opening up the paper and using the guidepoint on the edge of the paper
from the squash folds. Some may find this more accurate and easier.)  By
folding a line between the corners of the two small squares you can get
the other guidelines, such as for the abdomen/chin area.  Once you get
the guidelines you use the same folding techniques that you see Montroll
and Lang use quite often to get the extra flaps for the nose and feet and
thinning some of it out. (In fact, there was a thread on this list not
long ago about a proposal for this same Montoll/Lang folding manuever and
to which it was suggested should be given a name. Despite certain
proposals, I think it's still nameless). Also, the main guideline for the
feet is the half way mark for that section of the flap.  After all this,
you should be at step 2 of Van Gelder's diagrams.  Once you get the base,
it is actually quite simple to get the rest of the model from the photo
or from Van Gelder's diagram.  By the way, in Top Origami (but not in
OftC) the first page or frontpiece of the book is a full page, color,
closeup photo of the ET model, practically identical to the one inside
the book but more blown up.
I know the above description without diagrams probably won't make much
sense at all to most people (I might even get hate mail for it!) .  But
there's a small chance it might to those who have already struggled to
get the base.

Herman





From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:25:07 -0500
Subject: Copyrights

Rona can speak for herself (she is a member of this list), and probably
will answer you direct if you put her name in the Subject of your message.
She may also have a web page; check Joseph Wu's master list.

Otherwise, I'd say it is generally best not to use diagrams that are
published in currently available books by others. It is difficult to
see how it serves any purpose except to allow someone to avoid
buying the books. And the fewer books are sold, the less likely
the publisher is to publish more origami books or re-print a new
edition. Nobody is getting rich selling or writing origami books,
after all, and if we don't buy each others' books, who will?

Also the Arnstein/Gurkewitz book is about as inexpensive as you
can get, like most of the Dover books. (less than $5US, as I recall)
If anyone is too poor to afford that, let us know and we'll take up
a collection!
:)

Valerie Vann





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:41:35 -0600
Subject: new model: is my face red!

Sorry about the spelling errors and the one obvious drawing error
on the twisted diagrams, I am just gonna have to start doing more
of this during the day time.
Anyway the diagrams are fixed, thanks, and

Sorry about that, chief

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <----Web Page with Diagrams!





From: Thies de Waard <twaard@C.ECUA.NET.EC>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:06:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Wedding Pigs
Priority: normal

</color>Send reply to:          <color><param>0000,0000,8000</param>Origami
     List <<ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>

</color>From:                   <color><param>0000,0000,8000</param>Lisa
     Hodsdon <<Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>

</color>Subject:                <color><param>0000,0000,8000</param>Wedding
     Pigs [Was Re: Hello!]

</color>To:                     <color><param>0000,0000,8000</param>ORIGAMI@MITV
     MA.MIT.EDU

<italic><color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>>Lisa Hodsdon indited:

>> cranes. She's really into pigs, maybe I'll fold 1000 base 4

>> "pigs that fly". . . . Would that be equivalent? They *would*

>> make a nice mobile.

>The other question is what are the cultural implications for

>the wedding parties families?

</italic></color>The flying pigs do make a very nice mobile; I made one for a
     friend
of mine a few weeks ago. But a thousand pigs would be a lot; one
pig takes me about 30 minutes to fold! Regarding those cultural
implications for the families, just make sure he's not a Muslim....

Ciao, Thies

----------------------------------
Thies de Waard
Apartado Postal 01-01-862
Cuenca, ECUADOR
+593-7-822052 (thuis/home/casa)
+593-7-840254 (werk/office/oficina)
Ik heb nu slechts n email-adres/
I now have only one email address/
Ahora solo tengo una direccin de correo electrnico:
twaard@c.ecua.net.ec





From: plank@CS.UTK.EDU
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:20:29 -0500
Subject: Re: Modular Soccer Ball Question

>Concerning your specific question about directions to build a soccer
>ball (other- wise called truncated icosahedron or "bucky ball" or
>"fullerene" for its similarity with the Carbon-60 molecule, most of
>my friends say "Oh, una pelota de fztbol" when the see the truncated
>icosahedrons I made) I would suggest to check Jim Plank's web site
>and his penultimate polyhedra units, Tom Hull's page for his
>pentagon- hexagon zig-zag module, and Valerie Vann's page:
>
>http://chasm.merrimack.edu/~thull/OrigamiMath.html  -> Tom Hull's page.
>http://people.delphi.com/vvann/index.html  ->  Valerie Vann's page
>http://www.cs.utk.edu/~plank/plank/pics/origami/origami.html - Jim
>Plank's page
>
>Gerardo Fisanotti.

I'll plug the 'penultimate' module.  This is a great one for purists --
you can make it from 90 4x4 or 4x4 sheets with no ripping or cutting,
and the final piece is solid enough that you can do without glue
for at least 6 months (it will sag after a while).  And it's beautiful.
Directions at:

    http://www.cs.utk.edu/~plank/plank/pics/origami/penultimate/intro.html

Pictures at:

   http://www.cs.utk.edu/~plank/plank/origami/trunc_icos.gif
                          and
   http://www.cs.utk.edu/~plank/plank/origami/tricos.gif

Jim Plank





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:23:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Wedding Pigs

>But a thousand pigs would be a lot

Right. That's why I'm only planning on 1000 base 4, which
is 4^3 or 64 base 10. Oh. I just remembered: "four" sounds
like "death" in Japanese. Maybe I'll go with 1000 base 3 (3^3
or 27 base 10). That would still be a nice mobile

I'm pretty sure he's not muslim (or jewish either, for that matter)
but I guess I better find out.

Lisa (revisiting old threads)
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:12:19 +0000
Subject: BOS site update

Just a note to say that 4 more items by David Lister have been added.
Don't forget to sign the guest book whilst you are there, plus leave a
request/item for sale/wanted.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:19:51 -0500
Subject: Re: PICTURES from the 1st Scandinavian Origami Meeting !!!!

Peter Budai indited:

> Watch out for pictures from the 1st Scandinavian Origami Meeting at
> the following URL:
>
> http://www.origami.net/homes/sweeden/meeting/pictures.htm

Thanks for the heads up, and thanks to the people who made the web photos and
structure happen!

-D'gou





From: Rona Gurkewitz <GURKEWITZ@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:25:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Copyrights

fyi: Dover Publications holds the copyrights to 3D Geometric Origami.
I sent info about obtaining permission from them to C. Burczyk
in response to her email.





From: Krystyna Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:55:16 +0100
Subject: Re: Modular Soccer Ball Question

-----Original message-----
Od: Stephen Canon <Stephen_Canon@BROWN.EDU>
Do: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Data: 13 listopada 1998 08:27
Temat: Re: Modular Soccer Ball Question

Unfortunately, the Open Frame II module cannot make angles larger than 90
degrees... so it can't be used to produce the truncated icosahedron, as the
angles of the hexagons are of course 120.
------------------
You are right.
To construct hexagon you should add six spokes from hexagon vertices to its
     center and convert it into six trinagles.

PS

The proper address of my page:
http://www1.zetosa.com.pl/~burczyk/galery1.htm
Sorry for the error in addres in my last message





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@PB.NET>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:21:00 +0000
Subject: Welcome
Priority: normal

Hi Dana,

Welcome to the origami list. We don't have people that I'm aware of from Egypt.
It would be interesting if you could tell us a bit about how you came to be
interested in origami. Since paper (papyrus) originated in Egypt, do you know
of any tradition of paper folding in your country?

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Richard 'of' Foong <ryf@ECR.MU.OZ.AU>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:35:24 +1100
Subject: Origami Tanteidan problems

>From Christina!, reply to her (address at the bottom)

        I am just wondering whether anyone has problems with the
subscription of newsletter from Origami Tanteidan. I am subscribed to the
Vol. 9 of the newsletter (the current publication) and I have only
regarding this and so far I have not heard anything nor received the
subsequent newsletters. I am getting worried and frustrated. Anyone has
the same problem? Anyone has any idea what is going on?

Thanks,
Christina

********************************************************************************

Christina Lim
Photonics Research Lab
University of Melbourne
chrislim@ee.mu.oz.au





From: Dania El Iraqi <dana_near_you@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:08:37 -0800
Subject: Re: Hello!

Dear Kathy,

It's good to feel that I'm not the only one here who's confused with
all this torrent of messages. I don't mind the mathematics bit, but
sometimes I feel that I just don't follow the train of messages here.

Well I'm still happy to be on this list.

By the way thanks a lot for the Website. I'll look it up as soon as I
can.

Well gotta go now.

Bye
Dana

---"Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM> wrote:
>
> Hi Dana:
>
> Welcome to the list. You will want to check out Joseph Wu's page for
sure!
> It has everything you are looking for and some links if you want more!
> Here is the url:
>
> http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca/
>
> I'm fairly new to the list also.....I just pass up all that complex
stuff
> for now...hey just wait till they start talking mathematics again,
it will
> blow your mind  :)
>
> Kathy  <*))))><
>

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From: Krystyna Burczyk <burczyk@MAIL.ZETOSA.COM.PL>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:44:54 +0100
Subject: Copyrights

-----Original message-----
Od: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Do: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Data: 14 listopada 1998 07:52
Temat: Copyrights

If anyone is too poor to afford that, let us know and we'll take up
a collection!
:)

Valerie Vann

---------------

1. Though we are living in Poland we can pay for any book we want to read. Even
     Valerie's book, if she will write any. ;)

2. The problem is not in money. Perhaps it is suprising for Valerie, but there
     are some people not reading English. How can you appeal them to buy
     English book? In our opinion the best way is to show them that language is
     not a barrier (at least in origam
 ).

3. Valerie, your pages on modular origami are great. Thanks.

Krystyna i Wojtek Burczyk





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:52:13 -0500 (
Subject: Re: straw whistle

Speaking of straws....I wish I could remember his name at the moment, but
there is a new wonderful creative  delightful folder in our Eastern USA
origami community who made a very big hit at the convention.  His thing is
making unit origami into what is a flexagon and he calls it fireworks.....He
also takes a plastic straw, flattens it and cuts it to two points and then
puts into his mouth and blows on it.  It makes the weirdest sound you ever
heard and I have tried it a couple of times in restaurants for my
grandchildren and they go into gales of laughter while the people all around
cant imagine where the sound comes from except that I go into gales of
laughter myself everytime I do it because it doesnt work everytime and
surprizes me when it does.......(To be honest, sometimes my grandchildren get
embarrassed from their crazy grandmother...they never know what tricks I might
pull)  Will someone who know his name please let others know because he really
does deserve recognition for his creativity.......Dorigami





From: DORIGAMI@AOL.COM
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:01:37 -0500 (
Subject: Re: Hello!

Hi Dana, welcome aboard....Egypt, my goodness, the world is small......You
have a great adventure before you when you get involved in Origami.....hope
someday you can come to the convention in N. Y. and we can meet....I have been
involved for 38 years and am still loving it and learning new things all of
the time......
dorigami





From: Sy Chen <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:55:12 -0500
Subject: Re: straw whistle

I think you are talking about Yami Yamauchi. I did not take any of his
classes. I don't know how he does his straw whistle. But I do recall the
similar trick from my childhood. I have not tried it for a long-long time.
It might be the time to get a straw and cut....

At 09:52 PM 11/14/98 EST, you wrote:
>Speaking of straws....I wish I could remember his name at the moment, but
>there is a new wonderful creative  delightful folder in our Eastern USA
>origami community who made a very big hit at the convention.  His thing is
>making unit origami into what is a flexagon and he calls it fireworks.....He
>also takes a plastic straw, flattens it and cuts it to two points and then
>puts into his mouth and blows on it.  It makes the weirdest sound you ever
>heard and I have tried it a couple of times in restaurants for my
>grandchildren and they go into gales of laughter while the people all around
>cant imagine where the sound comes from except that I go into gales of
>laughter myself everytime I do it because it doesnt work everytime and
>surprizes me when it does.......(To be honest, sometimes my grandchildren get
>embarrassed from their crazy grandmother...they never know what tricks I
might
>pull)  Will someone who know his name please let others know because he
really
>does deserve recognition for his creativity.......Dorigami





From: "J. Robert A. Lemieux" <rlemieux@MA.ULTRANET.COM>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 04:01:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Mt. Fuji Query

Hi All,

Rising Mt. Fuji appears on page 28 of:

Origami for Parties
Kazuo Kobayashi & Makoto Yamaguchi
Kodansha International
ISBN 0-87011-797-1

The book is available from
http://www.barnesandnoble.com
for $7.60 + s/h, and contains
the following 29 models:

Swan Centerpiece
Fork and Knife Holder
Paper Cup
Napkin Ring
Candy Dish
Coaster
Party Popper
Topsy Turvy
Pecking Crow
Rocking Pigeon
Animal Finger Puppets
Cawing Crow
Plane with Cockpit
Jet Plane
Flapping Dove
Rising Mt. Fuji
Flapping Crane
Jumping Frog
Magic Triangle
Whirly Twirly
Barking Dog
Hang Glider
Fox Finger Puppet
Balloon
Sumo Wrestler
Cap
Baseball Glove
Samurai Helmet
Origami Toy Box

Happy folding.......
Bob





From: Katherine Nelson <revkat@EARTHLING.NET>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 07:47:37 -0800
Subject: Re: straw whistle plus

You can also cut small notches up the length of the straw and play a tune
if your straw is large and sturdy enough.  The bright yellow straws that
McDonald's used to have were perfect, but they were replaced with much
weaker straws years ago.

Katherine N.
----------
> From: THORKILD SNDERGRD               <thokiyenn@GET2NET.DK>
> To: ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Sv:      Re: straw whistle plus
> Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 4:31 AM
>
> Apropos straw whistle.
> There is a little additional fun to be had with the straw whistle.
> I cannot remember who showed it to me, but I think it was
> the excellent magician and papercutter Arthur Day of England.
> When you have preparted your straw and the sound is coming out all right
> with your scissors you snip of a little bit at a time,  and the tone
changes
> and the notes gets higher and higher..
> A very funny and beautiful effect.
>
> Thok 98
>
> ==================================
> Thoki Yenn - IDEAS UNLIMITED
> Tranehavegrd 1, st. 101
> Dk - 2450 Copenhagen SV, Denmark
> Phone/Fax 00 45 33 24 61 13
> e-mail: thokiyenn@get2net.dk
> Have a look at
> http://www.bornholmershoppen.dk/videorig.html





From: =?iso-8859-1?B?VEhPUktJTEQgU9hOREVSR8VSRA==?= <thokiyenn@GET2NET.DK>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:31:32 +0100
Subject: Sv:      Re: straw whistle plus

Apropos straw whistle.
There is a little additional fun to be had with the straw whistle.
I cannot remember who showed it to me, but I think it was
the excellent magician and papercutter Arthur Day of England.
When you have preparted your straw and the sound is coming out all right
with your scissors you snip of a little bit at a time,  and the tone changes
and the notes gets higher and higher..
A very funny and beautiful effect.

Thok 98

==================================
Thoki Yenn - IDEAS UNLIMITED
Tranehavegrd 1, st. 101
Dk - 2450 Copenhagen SV, Denmark
Phone/Fax 00 45 33 24 61 13
e-mail: thokiyenn@get2net.dk
Have a look at
http://www.bornholmershoppen.dk/videorig.html





From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:14:55 -0500
Subject: NO: Dropping Out

I'm signing off the origami mail list for awhile
to pursue some other interests. I will also be
scaling back and/or moving my origami web sites
soon; I will keep Joseph Wu posted about any changes,
so you can find them through his pages.

Valerie Vann





From: David M Foulds <dmfoulds@ORIGAMI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:20:03 +0000
Subject: Re: Hello!

At 12:49 12/11/98 -0500, D'gou wrote:
>ObDigression: excuse me Mr. Flying Pig, are you with the bride's squadron or
>the grooms?
>

I wonder if someone could explain this for me.  I've been on the net for
about 4 years now and I still have no idea what is meant by the idiom
ob******** whatever?

Dave

--
David M Foulds [dmfoulds@origami.freeserve.co.uk] [dmfoulds@bigfoot.com]

Foulds' Folds - Selected Origami Designs
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:15:25 +0100
Subject: Re: Sv:      Re: straw whistle plus

Thoki,
At 13.31 15/11/1998 +0100, you wrote:
>Apropos straw whistle.

I have a vague idea on "how and where" it has to be cut, but can you
explain it in a few words ?

>I cannot remember who showed it to me, but I think it was
>the excellent magician and papercutter Arthur Day of England.

Do you remember the couple Arthur Day - Ralph Matthews ? Excellent
magicians, entertainers, paperfolders...... Charming people !

Roberto (thinking of the good old days)





From: Maureen Evans <kanga@ESCAPE.CA>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:50:07 -0500
Subject: Re: straw whistle

A couple of weeks ago this whistle was shown on "Bill Nye the Science
Guy" on the Family Channel here in Canada.  I tried it and it was a
great hit with the kids.  The straw I used was large in diameter and the
sound it made was like a duck.  It was pretty cool.

Maureen





From: "Llana L. Harmon" <llharmon@PRIMENET.COM>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 20:49:06 -0700
Subject: Did anybody ever come up with the solution to....

Hi all,

A friend told me that somebody asked a question about the J. Maekawa
"Winged Devil."  Since I know how to fold the tail and get the shoulder
horns, she said that I should offer my solution.

OK, at long last I have a web connection and so I want to talk some
origami.  How 'bout it folks!

Dave





From: =?iso-8859-1?B?VEhPUktJTEQgU9hOREVSR8VSRA==?= <thokiyenn@GET2NET.DK>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:08:30 +0100
Subject: straw whistle again again

Short explanation for the benefit of Roberto
and others that might be interested

Flatten the end of the straw.
snip off a thin sliver at each side of the flattened end.
It leaves two trapezium shaped pieces
about one quarter inch long.
They works like the reed in a clarinet
when you put it in your mouth and blow.

Then you snip off little pieces and run up the scale
do-re-mi-fa-sol-la-bi-do,
or as suggested by Kathrine Nelson,
cut holes and play it as a flute.

And to you Roberto - Kalmon wants to send you a drawing
it being better than many words but as I cannot
put attached drawings on the list I will ask him
to send it to your private e-mail address.
O-K-?
Thok 98
===========================
Thoki Yenn - IDEAS UNLIMITED
Tranehavegrd 1, st. 101
Dk - 2450 Copenhagen SV, Denmark
Phone/Fax 00 45 33 24 61 13
e-mail: thokiyenn@get2net.dk
Have a look at
http://www.bornholmershoppen.dk/videorig.html
