




From: Dave Brill <davebrill@WORTHHALL.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:07:21 +0100
Subject: paper choices: more info

Dear All

Just to respond again to Carmine's request for info about the types of
paper which I used for the models in "Brilliant Origami": you were
right: I did use my own primitive form of "back coating" for the models
in question. That is I selected thinnish sheets of the two types of
paper that I wanted and simply stuck them together with some ordinary
paper glue: nothing particularly special! This is a liberty that I
justified to myself as acceptable to get the best results for the
photos, and isn't something that I'd normally do...

To be more specific: of the three kings, only the one in the centre in
the photo is double-layered: I think I used some cream Japanese paper
with some sort of thin brown paper stuck to the back.

Pinocchio and Geppetto both use similar techniques: I had a good supply
of some extraordinary wood veneer paper which I acquired from a shop in
London when I was making the original models for the CDO competition in
1983, so I used this when I remade the designs for the book, in
particular for the "flesh" or "wooden" side of Pinocchio, as well as the
boats in Oxford and Cambridge boat race, the fence in the Show-Jumper
scene and the witch's broom. The witch is double-layered too, but this
time from the thinnest Fabriano paper I could find!

Geppetto is two layers of fibrous Japanese paper: I have no idea what
it's called exactly. The glue holding the two thicknesses together was
too enthusiastically applied in one spot on the finished figure: you can
see that it's a bit discoloured and too dark on the body just below the
figure's right hand in the picture...

All these designs were very carefully wet-folded, using the minimum
quantity of water, and sometimes the layers did separate during the
folding!

Hope all this drivel helps.
Yours

Dave Brill

davebrill@worthhall.demon.co.uk





From: Jeadams1@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:40:56 -0400 (
Subject: OftC and OO

There were some questions a little while ago whether the reprints of Origami
for the Connoisseur and Origami Omnibus would be unabridged from the original
hardcover editions. I got my copies yesterday from Amazon.com and from my
review of the books, it seems the reprints do, indeed, contain everything from
the originals.





From: Terrence Rioux <trioux@WHOI.EDU>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:36:33 -0400
Subject: Butterfly Diagrams - OUSA Annual Gift

Jane Rosemarin told us that Michael LaFosse's Happy Good Luck Bat
diagrams are to be found at Alex Barber's web site.  For those of
you who received incomplete Alice Gray Butterfly diagrams, they
may also be found at Alex's web site:

http://www.the-village.com/origami/pdf/butterfly.pdf

This model is only the basic plan, a starting point, for many,
many types of butterflies.  Michael's video "Origami Butterflies
and Moths" is well worth the purchase price and may be found at
Kims's Crane, Fascinating Folds, OUSA's Source, Sasuga, and, of
course, from his web site Origamido.com.  I hope OUSA doesn't
mind, but I filled up a box with many different butterflies, and
a couple of moths (with segmented abdomens)...couldn't resist
playing!

P.S.  Thanks, Joseph Wu for making your Eastern Dragon diagrams
available.  It may give me more courage to take the class at
convention next year if it is offered.  I've had a lot of fun
with your flying pig model.

Cheers,

Terry Rioux





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:51:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Butterfly Diagrams - OUSA Annual Gift

Terry Rioux wrote

>Alice Gray Butterfly diagrams . . .
>may also be found at Alex's web site:
>
>http://www.the-village.com/origami/pdf/butterfly.pdf

The pdf version of the butterfly has substantially different head and
body detailing, fewer drawings and no text. I like the OUSA version
better, and was glad to receive it.

>This model is only the basic plan, a starting point, for many,
>many types of butterflies.

These two versions certainly lend support to Terry's observation above
and to the final sentence of Michael LaFosse's instructions: "See if you
can create your own variations: hundreds are possible!"

-Jane





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:56:07 -0400
Subject: Re: New diagrams at...

~Alec indited:

> New diagrams for a high-intermediate Tic-tac-Toe board with game pieces.
> Created, diagrammed, and uploaded by Alec Fehl.

Thanks!

BTW:  I've also enjoyed your models in the West Coast Origami Guild
newsletter.  Thanks for those too.

-D'gou





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:02:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Looking for "The Magic Paper"

Jeff Kerwood inquired as to what kind of paper it was that Chris Palmer
uses for his tessellations...

When I took a class from him at the '96 OUSA convention, we "learned"
using colored glassine that Chris provided.  Most of the "finished"
models he had on display in the exhibit were actually sewn fabric. ;-)
Maybe it was glassine or a relative that he folded for the video...
Anyone know for sure what he used?

-D'gou





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:05:44 +0100
Subject: Paper Art - origami sighting

 10/22/98 LA Times has an article about a collage exhibit at Ventura
College art galleries,4667 Telegraph Rd., Ventura California --
805-648-8974. Through October 30. Largest work, by Jan Kunkle, is titled,
"Origami" and is described, "as an ode from one medium involving folding
and metamorphosing to another"

Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
<<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:32:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Joseph's Eastern Dragon difficulty...

Mirjam Van Vroonhoven indited:
> Mirjam
> (who is going to try the Dragon by Joseph Wu tonight, it looks beautiful but
> difficult)

Actually, it looks a bit tedious in the precreasing stage, but with some
nice music playing you'd not notice that too much.

The part that has me "annoyed" is how to cut a 1x20 strip accurately.
Guessing from the models I have seen, a strip about 4 to 6 inches wide
should be sufficient.  Presuming one edge of the roll of paper is
straight, it might be possible to get a 3 to 4 foot cut using a metalic
straight edge (and some appropriate surface to cut on), but to get 80
inches (hmmm, that would be six feet, eight inches) would be tough.

Actually, from what I've seen of the dragons used in street
celebrations, even 1x20 might be a bit short!

-D'gou





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:44:15 -0700
Subject: Joseph Wu's Origami Page temporary address

While the ISP is still having some problems, you may access my website at
the following address: <http://virtual.ultranet.ca/origami.vancouver.bc.ca/>.

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w: http://www.origami.vancouver.bc.ca





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:48:31 -0700
Subject: Moses (was Re: Eastern Dragon Diagrams)

At 14:48 98/10/22 -0600, you wrote:
>Now how about 'Moses'?
>
>Ah!  Come on!  You could diagram it in 2 steps.  Maybe 3.

Hmmm? Are you talking about KOMATSU Hideo's "Moses"? I've got a big enough
backlog of my own models to diagram without worrying about anyone else's! 8)

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From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:57:48 +0200
Subject: Re: Wet-Folded, and two different colors...

On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Carmine Di Chiara wrote:
> I've been wondering how to make a wet-folded model that has a different
> color on each side.

I've experimented lately with using two sheets of paper folded as one
(without glueing them together). No kidding, it really works. The result
won't be as perfect as laminated paper, and you'll have some offsets at
the edges of the paper, but I think that this also has its charms.

I normally use two sheets of thin watercolor paper, like Ingres paper
with not more than 150g/m^2. For simpler models, you can wet the sheets
separately, place them on top of each other, and start to fold right away.
For complex models that require a lot of precreases, I make the precreases
separately on each sheet of paper up to the first crease that stays in
place. I make the precreases while the paper is still dry -- it's simpler
that way --, then wet the sheets, place them on top of each other and
start to fold.

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: "K.A. Lundberg" <klundber@MNSINC.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:18:39 -0400
Subject: Inexpensive Butterfly Paper for the OUSA Gift

I normally save computer paper that has just an inch or two of print
and cut the clean part to the largest possible square for later use.
Thanks to OUSA I've been able to use much of the 6" paper up.
Following is the dye technique I used.

Tools: newspaper, cut squares, toothbrush or stiff brush of some sort,
food coloring or fabric dye, dish a little larger than the square, wax
paper, iron.

Cover table with newspaper.  Lay dry squares out on newspaper.

Using either full strength food coloring, darkish mixture of dry
fabric dye or raid the kids watercolor boxes (they're not using them
anyway<g>) splatter a vertical stripe through the center of the paper
by running thumb or finger over the bristles of the brush (I used an
old stencil brush).  Lightly dust the other parts of the square with
splatters. (The largest concentration of splatters should be along
where the fold line is fig. 1) Allow paper to dry a bit.

In a dish dilute the dye with water.  Dip splattered paper in the dye
solution coloring both sides of the paper.  Blot square between
newspaper and iron dry between two sheets of wax paper (two sheets of
wax paper will last through 6-12 squares).  A final pass of the iron
without the wax paper and you're done.

Kalei -- klundber@mnsinc.com





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:48:27 -0600
Subject: Re: Eastern Dragon Diagrams

Now how about 'Moses'?

Ah!  Come on!  You could diagram it in 2 steps.  Maybe 3.

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Julius Kusserow <juku@MATHEMATIK.HU-BERLIN.DE>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:54:23 +0200
Subject: Dragons
On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Perry Bailey wrote:
>  I think Ian (forgot your last name) did have
> some on his web page.
Ian Mitchell ( http://www.accessin.com.au/~paris/ )
there are two nice dragons

> and there is a dragon that is fairly easy available from either
> alex barbers homepage or from the origami diagram repository in
> the Netherlands. But I forget the author.
it"s from Klaus Weidner

Hope that help
        Julius





From: Curtis Walton <waltocu@LITORIA.MATH.EARLHAM.EDU>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:59:03 -0500
Subject: library search

Hello.

I'm new to origami, and am loving it.  As part of an award, I'm looking
for a good mathematical treatement of origami to add to out library.  If
you know how to obtain a copy of any of the following, please let me know.

Proceedings of the First International Meeting of Origami Science and
Technology

Origami Science and Art: Proceedings of the Second International Meeting
of Origami Science and Scientific Origami

Origami for the Connoiisseur, by Kasahara and Takahama (1987)

Other suggestions are welcome.

Thank you,
Curtis Walton





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:39:11 -0700
Subject: Re: Joseph's Eastern Dragon difficulty...

At 18:16 98/10/22 -0400, you wrote:
>Andrew Daw indited:
>> > The part that has me "annoyed" is how to cut a 1x20 strip accurately.
>> Actually it's 1x5 according to the instructions.
>Actually, it is any integer ratio of 4x1 or longer, according to the
>instructions. ;-)

I was waiting for that retort! 8)

I forgot to add that the position of the hind legs (determined in step 16)
will change if you use a ratio other than 5x1.

>> I made a Dragon last night using a 12cmx60cm strip of paper backed copper
>> foil.  I dabbed various colours on the paper side (black, yellow, silver)
>> using water colour paints and a sponge and pressing lightly.
>Cool.

Yes, it sounds very pretty!

>But I'm still looking for a trick... Hmm, maybe if I pleat it, I can cut
>through many layers at once and the only have to reverse half of the
>pleated folds (the ones in step 1)..... Hmmmmm, surely their has to be a
>better way.

Well, the creases don't all HAVE to be valley creases, but it does make the
crimping a little easier when you get to step 29. The problem with going
through many layers at once is that you start to get "drift" and your
divisions won't be evenly spaced. That will cause trouble when you find the
positions for the legs and neck in steps 16 and 17.

Mistakes in the diagrams that I've noticed so far:
Step 24: those are the "back legs", not the "front legs".
Step 32: little glitch (extra line) at the base of the tail.

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From: Mirjam Van Vroonhoven <mirjamv@THEOCHEM.KUN.NL>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:25:09 +0200
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 20 Oct 1998 to 21 Oct 1998

Hi all of you out there,

I'm quite new on this mailing list, and I'm recieving the emails via the
digest of the mailing list, so I don't know wether somenbody has already
responded to Leyla's question:

>Aside from the fact that I almost did not open the envelope, I realized that
>the Alice Gray butterfly diagrams I received have the instructions up until
>step 14 on one side. I turned the paper over to continue, and the instructions
>are repeated in the back again up to step 14.
>I could not finish the butterfly!
>Did this happen to anyone else?
>If not, where could I find the complete diagrams?

There are diagrams for a 'Butterfly for Alice Gray' by Michael LaFosse on the
internet, they are available via
   ftp://rugcis.rug.nl/origami/models/buttrfly.ps
I don't know wether this is the same model, these diagrams are only one page,
there are 21 steps. The diagrams are by J.C. Nolan.

Greetings,

Mirjam
(who is going to try the Dragon by Joseph Wu tonight, it looks beautiful but
difficult)





From: DGS - Kevin Kinney PhD <kkinney@CAROLINAS.ORG>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:34:29 -0500
Subject: A rehash-The whistle

I know there was a bit of a discussion on the list a while back of the
paper whistle from Cerceda's "Paperoflexia Facil" but I have a few
questions still.

You see, this friend of mine and I came up with a cool vision:

We play at sessions:  informal gatherings of musicians to play and have a
good time.  In my case, Celtic music.

What we picture is this:  A person walks in, carrying no instrument, but
with, perhaps, several pieces of paper (or card stock).  Greets the other
musicians, and calmly take the paper and begins folding it, as the others
begin playing.  Folds *a useful, tuned instrument* and joins in the
evening's fun.  Then, at the end of the night, crumples up the instrument
and goes home.

What I'd like is a paper pennywhistle or flute:  a wind instrument which
can play at least a full octave (Do-Re-MI-etc) which could be folded from a
single sheet.  Ability to fold one that'll be at some reference pitch would
be good also, but after getting the rest worked out, that would be trivial.

Now, the Whistle in question is very nice:  it is simple to fold, and
produced a great sound (attested to by the number of friends I have who
want to learn it!).  But it has only one tone.  I think it is possible to
poke holes in the whistle in appropriate places to make an ocarina (a
small, globular, multitone whistle).  But I'm not sure.  And it would
involve a lot of trial and (especially) error, possibly each time.   Also,
I've had less than stellar luck with making the whistle bigger, to start
from a lower tone...

Has anyone had any success at coming up with a multitone origami musical
instrument?  I'd appreciate any suggestions, before I go trying what may be
a duplicative effort on my own...

Any Thoughts, Suggestions, Comments?

Kevin Kinney

Kevin Kinney
kkinney@carolinas.org





From: Andrew Daw <andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:53:04 +0100 (
Subject: Re: Joseph's Eastern Dragon difficulty...
Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85]

<snip>
> The part that has me "annoyed" is how to cut a 1x20 strip accurately.

Actually it's 1x5 according to the instructions.

> Guessing from the models I have seen, a strip about 4 to 6 inches wide
<snip>
>

I made a Dragon last night using a 12cmx60cm strip of paper backed copper
foil.  I dabbed various colours on the paper side (black, yellow, silver)
using water colour paints and a sponge and pressing lightly.
This made an awesome Dragon that now sits proudly on to my monitor at work.
The yellow and black together actually looks green unless you look close.
He is approx 26cm long by 8cm high (at the tallest) when completed.
For those of you used to Imperial measurements 12cm is roughly 5inches.

The hardest bit is putting in the 'crimps', but with patience this can be
done (I use tweezers to help twist the paper).

Thank you very much Joseph for sharing the diagrams with us :)

--
Andrew Daw





From: Stephen Canon <Stephen_Canon@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:59:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Joseph's Eastern Dragon difficulty...

At 04-53 PM 22U10U98 +0100, Andrew Daw wrote:
><snip>
>> The part that has me "annoyed" is how to cut a 1x20 strip accurately.
>
>Actually it's 1x5 according to the instructions.
>
>> Guessing from the models I have seen, a strip about 4 to 6 inches wide
<snip>

I folded one last night out of a 6" x 1.25" piece of paper - a scale on which
it's much easier to cut accurately (though harder to fold).  I've found that
a strip about 2 or 3 inches wide provides a nice tradeoff between ease of
folding and having a manageable size.

Stephen canon





From: Gabriel <jperezanda@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:09:02 -0300
Subject: Re: Joseph's Eastern Dragon difficulty...

Hi,

Could someone e-mail me the model, while Joseph's page come up again ?

I can't wait anymore!!  :)

Thanks,
Regards,
Gabriel.





From: Gabriel <jperezanda@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:16:29 -0300
Subject: Re: Joseph's Eastern Dragon difficulty...

Please don't consider my last message. I already receive Joseph's Wu new
address.

Thanks,
Gabriel.

Hi,

Could someone e-mail me the model, while Joseph's page come up again ?

I can't wait anymore!!  :)

Thanks,
Regards,
Gabriel.





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:16:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Joseph's Eastern Dragon difficulty...

Andrew Daw indited:
> > The part that has me "annoyed" is how to cut a 1x20 strip accurately.
>
> Actually it's 1x5 according to the instructions.

Actually, it is any integer ratio of 4x1 or longer, according to the
instructions. ;-)

> I made a Dragon last night using a 12cmx60cm strip of paper backed copper
> foil.  I dabbed various colours on the paper side (black, yellow, silver)
> using water colour paints and a sponge and pressing lightly.

Cool.

> Thank you very much Joseph for sharing the diagrams with us :)

Yes, yes!

But I'm still looking for a trick... Hmm, maybe if I pleat it, I can cut
through many layers at once and the only have to reverse half of the
pleated folds (the ones in step 1)..... Hmmmmm, surely their has to be a
better way.

-D'gou





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:30:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Puss in Boots.

Sidebar note:  Magic, Inc. is on the web at
http://members.uss.net/magicinc/

David Lister indited:

> After the last issue, "The Flapping Bird" was issued as a ring-bound book and
> was available from The Friends. I do not know whether it is still in print,

Magic Inc.'s web site lists it, as does OUSA's.  I didn't look anywhere
else.

I concur with David's assessment as a "must have."

> Puss in Boots appears on pages 41 to 43 of issue no.7, which has the copyright
> date, 1969. The creator of the model was Fred Rohm. The title of the model may
> be considered mesisleading. It is not the figure of a cat wearing over-sized
> thigh boots in the tradition of the fairy tale and pantomime, but is a small
> cat sitting INSIDE a boot. It is, in fact, a typically imaginative Fred Rohm
> production.

It is quite a cute cat with an "attitude" if you tilt its held a bit.
Unfortunately the boot part is a funny looking.  You could take the flap
used to form the front of the boot and make it a teacup handle and have
a cat in a tea cup (or probably several other containers too) or cat in
a pipe, or...... Since the boot front isn't landmarked, it might just be
that I haven't stumbled onto the right look yet.

Thanks for the bit of history David!

-D'gou





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:53:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Joseph's Eastern Dragon difficulty...

Joseph Wu wrote:
> I forgot to add that the position of the hind legs (determined in step 16)
> will change if you use a ratio other than 5x1.

Right.  You could even make an Eastern Dragon Centipede too. ;-)

> Mistakes in the diagrams that I've noticed so far:
> Step 24: those are the "back legs", not the "front legs".
> Step 32: little glitch (extra line) at the base of the tail.

I was going to note that when I've seen this model in the flesh, so to
speak, from a 1x5, it tends to look, well, squirrel-ish.  The versions
you have pictured with the loops in the body and tail are unmistakably
dragons however. ;-)

Thanks for the corrections.

-D'gou





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:57:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Useful Origami (Dragons)

> I've got a rather simple dragon design on my home page.   It's only in
> postscript format right now, but I could post it in gif or jpeg if you'd
> like.   It's at: http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~psycho/origami.html
>         I've been meaning to update the page, but let me know what you think.
> :-)

Cool.  The Dragon looks a bit, well, wormish, without any facial
features.

I couldn't find any reference to this on your page, or in the files
themselves, but they got slightly cut off on the top and bottom.  Since
I was printing on a 8.5x11" sheet, it looks as if they had been
formatted for the European A sized paper.  Nothing critical to the
diagrams got lost though.

Not of warning.  (I always forget my own rules!)
        Before attempting to print any .PS (PostScript) file you download from
the net, it is a good idea to look at it in a text editor first.   Of
course, I forgot to do this, and got nothing out when I printed them.
It turns out that there is a line at the very end of the file that you
have to "un-comment out" (there is a comment explaining this there as
well).
        In the general case, you want to make sure that there are no Control-D
or Control-Z characters in the files either.

Thanks Darren!

-D'gou





From: Fanny Ong <fo2945@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:33:13 -0400
Subject: Origami website
Importance: Normal

Hello everyone,

I have an origami website and thought it would be nice to share it with
you...
http://members.xoom.com/fanny_ong/main.htm

thanks,
Fanny





From: Darren Abbey <darren_a@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:17:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Useful Origami (Dragons)
Doug Philips wrote:
> Cool.  The Dragon looks a bit, well, wormish, without any facial
> features.

        Well I did say it was a simple design.   ;-)

> I couldn't find any reference to this on your page, or in the files
> themselves, but they got slightly cut off on the top and bottom.  Since
> I was printing on a 8.5x11" sheet, it looks as if they had been
> formatted for the European A sized paper.  Nothing critical to the
> diagrams got lost though.

        Yeah, I guess I didn't really pay attention to that detail and just
used the default for the program.   I'll see about getting it formatted
to the smaller size.

> Not of warning.  (I always forget my own rules!)
>         Before attempting to print any .PS (PostScript) file you download from
        ............
> have to "un-comment out" (there is a comment explaining this there as
> well).

        Thanks!  I generated the files through a shareware postscript editor I
found a while back.   I've noticed that I couldn't print the resulting
files either, but I didn't know enough about postscript to fix it.
I'll make sure to get them corrected.

>         In the general case, you want to make sure that there are no Control-D
> or Control-Z characters in the files either.
>
> Thanks Darren!

        Thanks many times over for the info on the postscript file format!

--
Darren Abbey (darren_a@mail.utexas.edu)
home page :
   http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~psycho/
work in progress :
   http://xenobleps.dorm.utexas.edu/





From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:28:43 -0400 (
Subject: Origami display at Xerox PARC

A while back, Jeannine asked how long the origami display (featuring works of
Huffman, Hull, Hojyo, Shafer, Montroll, Wu, Palmer, and Lang) would be up at
Xerox PARC in Palo Alto. It will be up until November 15, and is open from 8
am to 6 pm. You can see a selection of featured models at Marshall Bern's web
site:

http://www.parc.xerox.com/csl/members/bern/origami.html

Marshall (who arranged the exhibition) also tells me that Wired magazine may
do a blurb on it.

Robert J. Lang
rjlang@aol.com





From: Sy Chen <sychen@EROLS.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:32:15 -0400
Subject: Diagram revised - Pumpkin Face

I add extra 3 steps to explain step 6 of my original diagram. The revised
diagram can be found in http://www.erols.com/sychen1/Diagram/PUMPKINF.gif
for gif format or http://www.erols.com/sychen1/Diagram/PumpkinF.pdf for pdf
format. My web page still points to my old diagram. I will update it
sometime next week.

|------------------------------------------------------\
|  _   Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy) <sychen@erols.com>     |\
| |_| Folding http://www.erols.com/sychen1/pprfld.html --\





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:31:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Origami display at Xerox PARC

Rjlang@AOL.COM wrote:

> A while back, Jeannine asked how long the origami display (featuring works of
> Huffman, Hull, Hojyo, Shafer, Montroll, Wu, Palmer, and Lang) would be up at
> Xerox PARC in Palo Alto. It will be up until November 15, and is open from 8
> am to 6 pm. You can see a selection of featured models at Marshall Bern's web
> site:
>
> http://www.parc.xerox.com/csl/members/bern/origami.html
>
> Marshall (who arranged the exhibition) also tells me that Wired magazine may
> do a blurb on it.

I went I looked, I was awe struck, if you have seen it, you should.  I am
impressed!
and as it is late at night I think I better stop or I am going to start to rave
about the models shown, hey if I could get to where this exhibit is, I
     would!!!!!

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <----Web Page with Diagrams!





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:33:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Diagram revised - Pumpkin Face

Sy Chen wrote:

> I add extra 3 steps to explain step 6 of my original diagram. The revised
> diagram can be found in http://www.erols.com/sychen1/Diagram/PUMPKINF.gif
> for gif format or http://www.erols.com/sychen1/Diagram/PumpkinF.pdf for pdf
> format. My web page still points to my old diagram. I will update it
> sometime next week.

Thanks a lot !

Perry

--
pbailey@opencominc.com
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/  <----Web Page with Diagrams!





From: Julie Rhodes <kettir@GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:57:39 +0000 (
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI Digest - 21 Oct 1998 to 22 Oct 1998

Darren, what a lovely little origami dragon!  It was so easy and so cute
when finished!  I agree, it does kind of look like a baby oriental dragon.
I look forward to seeing Joseph Wu's oriental dragon when his page goes
back up (I haven't been able to logon).

On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:00:04 -0400, you wrote:

>Date:    Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:49:42 -0500
>From:    Darren Abbey <darren_a@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Useful Origami (Dragons)
>
>I've got a rather simple dragon design on my home page.   It's only in
>postscript format right now, but I could post it in gif or jpeg if you'd
>like.   It's at: http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~psycho/origami.html





From: Michael Gibson <mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:05:09 +1000
Subject: Some Tanteidan info..

Hello all,

I am interested in finding out the specific contents of these tantalising
and yet ellusive Tanteidan annuals. I tried skimming through the pages of
Origami House (those I could acces anyway) to no avail.

Is there a site where I can get the contents list for issues #2,#3,#4? I
would like to know some details before considering the purchase.

While I'm on the topic of contents, I would love to hear people's thoughts
on the two spiral books by Tomoko Fuse (Origami Spirals & Let's Fold
Spirals). Is it true that not all the models are Fuse? I am gradually
branching out into these lesser-known (or at least
lesser-talked-about) tomes of wonder.

A big thankyou to all who helped me with the Goubergen "Gecko & Fly" info.
I had no trouble locating the model. Also thankyou to Joseph for the
dragon diagrams. I know it is just another voice among the masses, but I
think you just can't give enough warm fuzzies!

Regards,

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Michael Janssen-Gibson                 e-mail: mig@isd.canberra.edu.au
ISD, Library                   phone/voice mail: +61 6 (06)  201 5271
University of Canberra
PO Box 1 Belconnen, ACT 2616





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:48:12 -1000
Subject: Re: frog contest

Aloooha Kenny,
        Thank you so much for taking time to look for a frog for me.  I finally
found one that looks much like the old one but designed specifically for
me with a wide open mouth folded into the model without cutting.  My
designer friend, Jodi Fukumoto, fellow hawaiian, did it for me.
        I'd like to send you a frog to thank you for your kindness so may I
please have your address.
                Aloha, Jan





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:51:24 -1000
Subject: Re: frog contest

Hi Ahliana,
        I finally found the frog I'll be using from here on.  It was designed
by a fellow hawaiian.  It's very much like the old frog but has a
wonderful open mouth folded right into it.
        I'd like to thank you for getting into the spirit of helpfulness by
sending you a frog so would you please send me your address.
                Thank you, Jan





From: Paul & Jan Fodor <origami@ALOHA.NET>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:03:14 -1000
Subject: Re: frog contest

Aloha everyone,
        I guess I already let everyone know that I found my frog.  I thought I
was emailing Kenny at his email address...I hope that email gets to
Kenny Kawamura...Kenny...did you get it?
        Anyway, I'd like to thank all of you who helped out in my origami
stress.  I am back in the frog business again and very happy with Jodi's
frog.  I also got to have some really neat frogs from all those who sent
one.  I hope I got in touch with each of you, if I missed someone please
email me; I really appreciated the kind responses I got.
        Thank you too to those who visited my craftfair booth while on the
mainland.  I really appreciated the models we traded and just meeting
you guys and gals.  If anyone came to see me at the Torrance Fair, I
apologize for the fair not being there.  It was moved to Nov. unbeknowst
We learned later that a message was left on our phone in Hawaii while we
were on our trip of course.  Lesson learned...check phone messages.
Anyway, we had a grand time, paid for our trip and hope to do it again.
                Aloha, Jan





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:29:28 +0100
Subject: http://www.parc.xerox.com/csl/members/bern/origami.html

Am I doing something wrong? Went to subject website. Baby Elephant
(wonderful) and Bats (terrific) loaded --- but all the rest got stuck after
partially showing --- repeated tries yielded same results???
If these won't load -- I am going to have to drive to Palo Alto.

Martin R. Carbone / 1227 De La Vina St. / Santa Barbara, CA 93101
TEL: 805-965-5574 / FAX: 805-965-2414 / EMAIL: mrcinc@silcom.com
WEBSITES: http://www.papershops.com <<<and>>> http://www.modelshops.com
<<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Judy D Pagnusat <judypag@JUNO.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:00:27 -0700
Subject: Re: Some Tanteidan info..

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:05:09 +1000 Michael Gibson
<mig@ISD.CANBERRA.EDU.AU> writes:
>Hello all,
>
>I am interested in finding out the specific contents of these
>tantalising
>and yet ellusive Tanteidan annuals. I tried skimming through the pages
>of
>Origami House (those I could acces anyway) to no avail.
>
>Is there a site where I can get the contents list for issues #2,#3,#4?
>I
>would like to know some details before considering the purchase.
>
>While I'm on the topic of contents, I would love to hear people's
>thoughts
>on the two spiral books by Tomoko Fuse (Origami Spirals & Let's Fold
>Spirals). Is it true that not all the models are Fuse? I am gradually
>branching out into these lesser-known (or at least
>lesser-talked-about) tomes of wonder.
>
>A big thankyou to all who helped me with the Goubergen "Gecko & Fly"
>info.
>I had no trouble locating the model. Also thankyou to Joseph for the
>dragon diagrams. I know it is just another voice among the masses, but
>I
>think you just can't give enough warm fuzzies!
>
>Regards,
>
>/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
>Michael Janssen-Gibson                 e-mail: mig@isd.canberra.edu.au
>ISD, Library                   phone/voice mail: +61 6 (06)  201 5271
>University of Canberra
>PO Box 1 Belconnen, ACT 2616
>\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>
Michael,

I have the Spiral book and love it.  The basic spirals look more
impressive than they are difficult.  Definately worth the purchase.

Judy

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From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:13:46 -0500
Subject: paper boat races

Hi All:

Did anyone see the Paper Boat Races at the Southeastern
Origami Festival? Unfortunately I missed it, I would love to
hear about it, if someone could report on the event it would
be appreciated.
Thank you.

Kathy <*))))><





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:52:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Looking for "The Magic Paper"

D'gou wrote:

> Jeff Kerwood inquired as to what kind of paper it was that Chris Palmer
> uses for his tessellations...

Well, kind of. I was referring specifically to his Flower Tower . It is
interesting that you consider the FT a tessellation. Can a tessellation be
3D? I don't think even his ~ flat ~ tessellation's are technically
tessellation's because of the areas of overlap - is that correct? Not
picking nits, just wondering.

> When I took a class from him at the '96 OUSA convention, we "learned"
> using colored glassine that Chris provided.

I've used glassine a good bit and that is not what he was using in the
video. What he was using was definitely a fibered paper. I haven't tried it
but my guess is glassine would not work well for the FT - has anybody tried
it?

> Most of the "finished"
> models he had on display in the exhibit were actually sewn fabric. ;-)

Now that I'd like to know more about!!!

> Maybe it was glassine or a relative that he folded for the video...
> Anyone know for sure what he used?

Very good question !

Thanks, Jeff Kerwood





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:20:53 +0100
Subject: Re: library search

Curtis Walton <waltocu@LITORIA.MATH.EARLHAM.EDU> sez

>Other suggestions are welcome.

Don't forget COET '91 - Convention on Origami in Education & Therapy -
it's a great thick book (470 pages) & is only 12.50 + postage. Available
from BOS supplies

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:06:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Looking for "The Magic Paper"

Jeff Kerwood wrote:

>>>
I've used glassine a good bit and that is not what he was using in the
video. What he was using was definitely a fibered paper.
<<<

Chris uses Elephant Hide a lot for his flower tower models, and
I think that's what he uses in the video too.  I think
Fascinating Folds sells Elephant Hide.

--- Tom "too much paper, too little time" Hull





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:09:51 -0400
Subject: Long rectangles [was Re: Joseph's Eastern Dragon difficulty...]

D'Gou's looking for a way to cut a 1x20 rectangle...
>But I'm still looking for a trick... Hmm, maybe if I pleat it, I can cut
>through many layers at once and the only have to reverse half of the
>pleated folds (the ones in step 1)..... Hmmmmm, surely their has to be a
>better way.

Put the roll on a lathe, measure twice, & pretend you're Norm Abrams?

Lisa





From: Andrew Daw <andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:18:40 +0100 (
Subject: Weevil's the verdict (Long)
Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85]

Here is my review on the Weevil origami models that I know about:

1) Kawahata -- Origami Beetles of the World
   None of the models here looked Weevil like enough for me to bother
   with any of these models.
   The  book does contain a nice looking Stag Beetle.

2) Montroll -- Origami Sculptures
   At first sight this looks a straight forward model, until you realise
   you have to make the Insect base to start from.  That's a lot of steps
   to perform before you start the model !
   I made this model out of plain Origami paper.  Although the model
   looks Weevil'ish, the point out the front of the nose didn't match
   my photos of Weevils.  After some re-modelling of the final stage
   it looked better but still lacked that certain something.  Perhaps
   it needs making out of foil paper ?

3) Lang -- Insects and their kin
   The model in the book (Long Nosed Seed Bug) resembles a Weevil.
   I made this one from Folders Foil.  I painted the paper black and
   used this as the coloured side.  This is the hardest of the models
   to make. I had to do some fiddling with a straightened out paper
   clip to open out the body to do the last set of closed sinks.
   With a tiny bit or modelling in the last stage I produced a very
   realistic looking Weevil.

   To do this I rounded the body, which makes the tail end less pointed.
   Also the head (which looks like the nose) is narrowed evenly all the
   way along it's length and pushed down slightly.  The feelers needed
   an extra kink in them at the end to look right too.

       |_______|   <- Feelers
          | |
          | |      <- Neck and head
          | |
         /   \      v = Body

   The front legs are then required to be pushed down to raise the body
   and head off the ground.  A few spots of light brown (Raw Sienna) paint
   over the body and it looks just like the real thing (but bigger).

So the winner for me is Robert Lang's model.

Now if you are talking Grasshoppers, Montroll's version from "Origami for
the Enthusiast" is my favourite.  But that's another story.
--
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:44:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Looking for "The Magic Paper"

Jeff Kerwood indited:
> Well, kind of. I was referring specifically to his Flower Tower . It is
> interesting that you consider the FT a tessellation. Can a tessellation be
> 3D? I don't think even his ~ flat ~ tessellation's are technically
> tessellation's because of the areas of overlap - is that correct? Not
> picking nits, just wondering.

> > Most of the "finished"
> > models he had on display in the exhibit were actually sewn fabric. ;-)
>
> Now that I'd like to know more about!!!

BARF (Bay Area Rapid Folders) actually came out with a T-shirt design.
You sew the front according to the silk-screened crease pattern (I think
they also provided info on how to go about doing that), and on the back,
for reference was the same crease pattern that you didn't fold/sew.  As
for Chris Palmer's work, at the conventions he has had "models" of
folded/sewn fabric that were several feet to a side.  Hanging in a
window to show the "translucence" pattern.  I don't know if he "prints"
the sew/fold lines in a washable ink, but I have never noticed any
markings on the final models.  Personally, I would think fabric would be
easier to fold, because it can bunchup/crinkle and unbunch/uncrinkle
without leaving "marks" in the paper, so the stresses of an incomplete
model wouldn't seem to cause as much hassle as they would with a stiff
substance such as paper.  Just guessing though.

-D'gou





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:22:34 -0700
Subject: Re: Looking for "The Magic Paper"

At 08:52 98/10/23 -0400, you wrote:
>Well, kind of. I was referring specifically to his Flower Tower . It is
>interesting that you consider the FT a tessellation. Can a tessellation be
>3D? I don't think even his ~ flat ~ tessellation's are technically
>tessellation's because of the areas of overlap - is that correct? Not
>picking nits, just wondering.

Origami tessellations are, of course, based on conventional tessellations,
but are another type of beast altogether as you correctly point out.

>I've used glassine a good bit and that is not what he was using in the
>video. What he was using was definitely a fibered paper. I haven't tried it
>but my guess is glassine would not work well for the FT - has anybody tried
>it?

I've not seen the video, but most of the FT's that Chris has displayed in
New York are folded from Wyndstone marble (pseudo-elephant hide).

>> Most of the "finished"
>> models he had on display in the exhibit were actually sewn fabric. ;-)
>Now that I'd like to know more about!!!

Fold with fabric, holding the creases in place with strategically positioned
stitches. I wonder if he starches the fabric first, then washes it out after
it's been stitched.

----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Keropi <keropi@VT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:51:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Weevil's the verdict (Long)

First of all, thank you to everyone who has replied about the weevil and the
info. about the book reviews.  Andrew:  I'll have to try what you said about
Lang's Long Nosed Seed Bug.  Sounds like alot of work involved.  But that's
the fun part, right?   Do you have a picture of the final bug?  Please
share/show.

Keropi
keropi@vt.edu

-----Original Message-----
Date: Friday, October 23, 1998 5:23 AM

>Here is my review on the Weevil origami models that I know about:
>
>1) Kawahata -- Origami Beetles of the World <snip>
>2) Montroll -- Origami Sculptures <snip>
>3) Lang -- Insects and their kin <snip>
>   To do this I rounded the body, which makes the tail end less pointed.
>   Also the head (which looks like the nose) is narrowed evenly all the
>   way along it's length and pushed down slightly.  The feelers needed
>   an extra kink in them at the end to look right too.
>
>       |_______|   <- Feelers
>          | |
>          | |      <- Neck and head
>          | |
>         /   \      v = Body
>
>   The front legs are then required to be pushed down to raise the body
>   and head off the ground.  A few spots of light brown (Raw Sienna) paint
>   over the body and it looks just like the real thing (but bigger).
>
>So the winner for me is Robert Lang's model.
<snip>





From: John Marcolina <jmarcoli@CISCO.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:29:52 -0700
Subject: Re: Looking for "The Magic Paper"

At 02:53 PM 10/23/1998 -0400, Jeff wrote:
>Thanks Joseph, Tom, Doug and others for your suggestions :-).
>
>> I've not seen the video, but most of the FT's that Chris has displayed in
>> New York are folded from Wyndstone marble (pseudo-elephant hide).

I've watched the video, and the paper doesn't look like elephant-hide to me.
     It's not stiff enough, but I can't tell what it is.

>Are they different enough that if I have used elephant hide I should still
>try Wyndstone - or are they just about the same?

I heard from Wyndstone that they import their papers from Germany, so it is in
     fact the same. I have also purchased a lot of both brands, and can attest
     to the fact that they are identical.

John Marcolina
San Jose, CA.
jmarcoli@cisco.com





From: Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:51:49 -0700
Subject: Re: Useful Origami

>Date:    Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:07:32 EDT
>From:    Teresa Ford <TesaFord@AOL.COM>
>Subject: Re: Useful Origami
>
>> I love the creative stuff, but I also like the useful origami, such as
>> placecard holders, cups, boxes, bags, hats, napkin rings, and other great
>> things you can do with paper.  (I make my living with paper, you might
>> say--I'm a secretary.)  Today I did a Carryout Bag with handles made from
>> an 8"x4" piece of paper, but what I really want is a regular-size "paper
>> lunch bag".  I'd like to be able to whip one up whenever I need it instead
>> of buying them.  Anybody got one of these?
>
>I am also new to the list and I would like to second this request.

I think there is a "doggie bag" in Paul Jackson's "Festive Folding." His
books have lots of other functional models as well.

Also both Gay Merrill Gross and Toshie Takahama seem to be big fans of
useful models. And of course Tomoko Fuse has produced lots of boxes,
dishes. Fuse's most recent series of  books also have envelope folds and
chopstick holders.

By the way, Takahama's "Joy of Origami" has gone out-of-print this year.
Sad. I think of this one as a definite classic of beginning books. You can
probably still find it in some bookstores.

Definitely rambling today....

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:53:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Looking for "The Magic Paper"

Thanks Joseph, Tom, Doug and others for your suggestions :-).

> I've not seen the video, but most of the FT's that Chris has displayed in
> New York are folded from Wyndstone marble (pseudo-elephant hide).

Are they different enough that if I have used elephant hide I should still
try Wyndstone - or are they just about the same?

And do you know if he folds them wet or dry? I'll try both but if the wet
fails I won't know if its supposed to work and I just can't do it or if
that model just doesn't work wet ;-/.

> Fold with fabric, holding the creases in place with strategically
> positioned stitches. I wonder if he starches the fabric first, then
> washes it out after it's been stitched.

Thanks. Sounds interesting but I think I'll need to experiment with an
easier model ;-/.

Enjoy your day,
Jeff

(And Joseph THANKS for the new ED diagrams!!!  I Love the model.)





From: Teresa Ford <TesaFord@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:07:32 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Useful Origami

> I love the creative stuff, but I also like the useful origami, such as
> placecard holders, cups, boxes, bags, hats, napkin rings, and other great
> things you can do with paper.  (I make my living with paper, you might
> say--I'm a secretary.)  Today I did a Carryout Bag with handles made from
> an 8"x4" piece of paper, but what I really want is a regular-size "paper
> lunch bag".  I'd like to be able to whip one up whenever I need it instead
> of buying them.  Anybody got one of these?

I am also new to the list and I would like to second this request.

Lately I have been having a lot of fun folding boxes from Origami Boxes for
Gifts, Treasures & Trifles by Alexandra Dirk.  Where can I go to get more
diagrams for boxes with lids and other similar things?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Teresa Ford





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:09:05 -0700
Subject: Re: Maitreya (was: Origami display at Xerox PARC)

At 15:51 98/10/23 -0600, Kim Best wrote:
>I have some questions about the model labeled :
>Takashi Hojyo, Maitreya (Miroku-Bosatsu)
>
>Who is this gorgeous lady?  I don't know what 'Maitreya' means in english.
>Anyone have more background?

Maitreya was (is?) a bodhisattva, a class of Buddhist deities who have put
off Nirvana for the sake of mankind. "Miroku-Bosatsu" is the Japanese name
of the same being.

Here's a blurb from <http://www.t3.rim.or.jp/~ramusa/G62.html>:

#Bosatsu is a class of Buddhist deities extolled in Mahayana literature
#because they are believed to labor unceasingly for the benefit of mankind;
#among the major Bodhisattvas, only Maitreya (Miroku) was related to a
#historical person;the rest were embodiments of theological and spiritual
#principles such as compassion, grace, divine wisdom, or steadfastness. In
#principle, the Bodhisattva possess the wisdom and power necessary to enter
#nirvana but refrain from doing so in order to help others reach salvation.
#In this they differ from the Arhats, who work only for their own
#enlightenment, and from the Buddhas, who (in theory) have already attained
#the hishest Ievel of spiritual insight and are usually no longer immediately
#connected with worldly affairs.

Further info from <http://www.t3.rim.or.jp/~ramusa/g6.html>:

#Miroku is the Buddha of the future. Early in the history of the faith,
#Indian Buddhists believed that another Buddha, to be called Maitreya, would
#appear on earth to lead myriads of the faithful to salvation, and Iaymen
#prayed that they would be reborn at the time of his coming. The future
#Buddha would be the reincarnation of one of the lesser disciples of
#Sakyamuni, a former Brahman named Maitreya. After his death, Maitreya was to
#rise to the Tushita Paradise and dwell there as a Bodhisattva until the time
#(in the remote future) for him to return to earth and begin his messianic
role.

>Is her headgear supposed to look like a fancy engineers cap?  Thats what it
>looks like when I fold it, but from the photograph I can't tell if that
>supposed to be the case.

No, it's supposed to be a crown-like headpiece with flowing cloth coming
down behind it. Take a look at the second webpage listed above for a photo
of the sculpture.

>This is such a richly detail and beautiful model.  And should make anyone who
>claims that complex folding is so mired in technique it loses it's charm,
hang
>their head in same.

You should see the rest of Hojo's Buddhist sculpture series!

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From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:16:10 -0400
Subject: FUSE Sprials was Some Tanteidan info..

I have both FUSE Spiral books. The first one (Origami Spirals) contains
other people's models in addition to her own as far as I can remember.  I
love both of them.  They contain models that are beautiful when completed,
but hair-tearing, brain-gnashingly hard.  Some of them do require a bit of
fiddling to figure out how they should be collapsed into shape - I find
that challenging and fun.

Peg Barber
mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Michael Gibson wrote:

> SNIP <
>
> While I'm on the topic of contents, I would love to hear people's thoughts
> on the two spiral books by Tomoko Fuse (Origami Spirals & Let's Fold
> Spirals). Is it true that not all the models are Fuse? I am gradually
> branching out into these lesser-known (or at least
> lesser-talked-about) tomes of wonder.





From: tommy <tomkat@DALLAS.NET>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:45:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Useful Origami

First of all I'll second Doug's suggestion -- try any of the box books
by Tomoko Fuse.

Also, I would suggest visiting Glenda Scott's Fabric Origami web page.
http://www.owt.com/gdscott/

Her fabric technique is interesting. She has around 50 diagrams
including some Fuse boxes and a tote bag by Gay Merrill Gross (this may
be exactly what you are looking for Julie).

Tommy





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:51:02 -0600
Subject: Maitreya (was: Origami display at Xerox PARC)

Rjlang@AOL.COM wrote:

> You can see a selection of featured models at Marshall Bern's web site:

> http://www.parc.xerox.com/csl/members/bern/origami.html
>

I have some questions about the model labeled :
Takashi Hojyo, Maitreya (Miroku-Bosatsu)

Who is this gorgeous lady?  I don't know what 'Maitreya' means in english.
Anyone have more background?

Is her headgear supposed to look like a fancy engineers cap?  Thats what it
     looks
like when I fold it, but from the photograph I can't tell if that supposed to be
the case.

This is such a richly detail and beautiful model.  And should make anyone who
claims that complex folding is so mired in technique it loses it's charm, hang
their head in same.
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420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
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From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:01:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Useful Origami

> Lately I have been having a lot of fun folding boxes from Origami Boxes for
> Gifts, Treasures & Trifles by Alexandra Dirk.  Where can I go to get more
> diagrams for boxes with lids and other similar things?
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.

Teresa,
        Actually you have been folding Tomoko Fuse's boxes as ripped off by
Dirk (search the archives for info on this if you are interested).
        I can recommend any of Tomoko Fuse's boxes books.  Good ones to start
with are Origami Boxes and Fabulous Origami Boxes, both in English and
both seem to be available in the big book stores.
        You can also shop with "The Big Three" on-line origami stores:
                Origami USA             http://www.origami-usa.org/
                Fascinating Folds       http://www.fascinating-folds.com/
                Kim's Crane             http://www.kimscrane.com/

        The Sasuga Japanese bookstore might also have some of Fuse's works, I
don't know.  They are at http://www.sasugabooks.com/ but they have a lot
more than just origami.

        If you have any questions about specific books (such as what they are
like before you buy them ;-)) post to the list, there are a number of
modular and boxes folders who might have some advice to offer.
                                -D'gou





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:13:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami display at Xerox PARC

Perry Bailey wrote:

> I went I looked, I was awe struck, if you have seen it, you should.  I am
> impressed!
> and as it is late at night I think I better stop or I am going to start to
     rave
> about the models shown, hey if I could get to where this exhibit is, I
     would!!!!!

Seeing those models "in the flesh" is one reason to go to an origami
convention (OUSA's in June in NYC, SEOF in NC in the fall, PCOC whenver
they have their next one)...  Photos do a great job of reminding you
what you saw when you were there in person, but they don't really do
justice to the model.  If you were that blown away by just the photo....

-D'gou
