




From: Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM>
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:03:11 -0700
Subject: Re: Cheap Folding Money?

It's also possible to find foreign currency in those odd little stores that
sell  baseball cards and stamps, etc..

There is such a place near me that has a cardboard box of foreign paper
money with a price such as 5 for a $1 or somesuch.

Also, people sell "paper" currency on the auction sites. For example, see
this page for a long list of non-US currency auctions:

http://listings.ebay.com/aw/listings/list/category385/index.html

Some of the items have pictures. If the scans are true, perhaps you can
identify bills with the proper proportions.

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:56:54 -0400
Subject: Re: New fold

> From: Perry Bailey

> It is a book mark, Froggy went a huntin'  An ambitious frog, and dinner
> to keep your place!

Perry (or anybody who wants to answer :-) I like the bookmark a lot but I'm
stuck on step 19 - any words of advice?

Thanks, Jeff





From: "L. Hayashi" <lmh@COMPUSMART.AB.CA>
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 20:23:35 -0600
Subject: New Book

Hello all,

Just came back from the local "Chapters" bookstore and found a new book.
The title is Super Simple Paper Airplanes by Nick Robinson.  Congratulations
     Nick this looks like a
gem of a book.  I often teach origami to kids and often get requests for
     planes.  I am looking
forward to teaching them some of the models.

Lynda





From: DMAWolf@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 22:49:10 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Money to fold

Hi All,
  An unusual and well crafted bill is put out by the Disney company.  They are
used as currency in Disney parks and have the faces of Disney characters and
are signed by Scrooge McDuck.  The engraving is multicolored.  They are
exchange in the same denominations as US currency and are the same size.  They
are very nice weight and patterns plus they have lovely little laser sparkles
imbedded in them.  The down side is that they cost the same as the face value
$1, $5 ect.  I get nice new ones at the Disney store at the local mall.  I
don't know if they are available in the stores and parks outside the US.
They can only be used as currency in the parks and stores, but make
interesting models especially for kids.
Diana Wolf





From: Chrome Digital <chromedigi@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 23:22:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Cheap Folding Money?

I've never folded with them, but it suddenly occurs to me that those "Hell
Bank Notes" one sometimes sees for sale in Asian grocery stores could make
for some entertainingly-decorated money folds.

-- Jim Puccio





From: Julius Kusserow <juku@MATHEMATIK.HU-BERLIN.DE>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:11:09 +0200
Subject: Re: Brill's Box with Lid (Was: Re: The Traditional Junk...)
On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Ken Lehner wrote:
> Julius Kusserow wrote:
> > > (1) What do you think is the most satisfying model to fold?
> > Changes from time to time, today it's Box with Lit(Box and Lit from one
> > square inside and outside colour is different, starts with dividing the
> > square in 5th) from David Brill. Very nice outcome and cool folding
> > sequence
>
> When I proposed to my wife, I gave her the engagement ring in this box,
> folded (carefully!) from red foil paper (with an extra piece inside to
> hold the ring.  Red was chosen as the complement to the green of the
> emeralds in the ring.
>
> Ken Lehner
>
> P.S.  When she saw the box, her reaction was on the order of "That's a
> nice cube".  It didn't occur to her that it *was* a box that opened!
>
Hi Ken,

this models seems to have an build in idea for the ring and the inlet. I
just gave a Box with Lid, a inlet and a folded ring away.

What a coincidence
        Julius





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:28:53 +0100
Subject: Folded flying discs?

I have made adjustable indoor throwing discs out of cardstock for years ---
call them Flugels --- from the German word for fly. Can throw them about 50
feet.

My designs require indenting, creasing and cutting. Does anyone know of a
design(s) for a Frisbee-like (somebody's trademark) throwing disc that does
not require cutting?

I can send a scan of one of our discs as a jpeg or giff attachment to an
email if anyone is interested. I hesitate attaching the scan to this
message --- because it may be clutter to many.

Martin R. Carbone
1227 De La Vina St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574
Fax: 805-965-2414
email: mrcinc@silcom.com
Websites: http://www.modelshops.com <<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Arlene Anderson <aanderso@BCPL.NET>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:22:42 -0400
Subject: NO:Dollar Bill

Perhaps these references provide some assistance:

World Book Encyclopedia, 1998 under "money" p. 707 explains that the
American colonists used "bills of exchange" when dealing with English
traders. Also "bills of credit" were issued in 1690 by Massachusetts, the
first American colony to issue paper money.

In 1792 the dollar became the basic unit of money for the US.
----------
So, was it possible that the term "bill" transferred from the early use to
the popular vocabulary of the dollar "bill" perhaps?

Barnhart Dictionary of Etymology 1988 under "bill" p. 93 states "The
meaning "account or invoice" is first recorded in 1404, the meaning "paper
money,note" from paper bill (1670), curiously before dollar bill (1774),
is first recorded in American English in 1682.

FWIW

Arlene Anderson                 aanderso@bcpl.net





From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:22:25 -0700
Subject: Origami sighting

This is from the September 7th issue of People magazine under a photograph
of Penn & Teller in paper hats:

"Penn Jillette and sidekick Teller make fashion magic in their origami hats."

Teller's hat is pretty wild - looks more like a bishop's mitre (correct
name?  The pointy white headgear worn by some religious leaders, you know
what I mean)

"Peace In Creases"

Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





From: "Charles M. Heron" <cheron@ICHIPS.INTEL.COM>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:39:25 -0700
Subject: Re: Folded flying discs?

In Centro Diffusione Origami
http://195.31.193.71:80/cdo/
under the 'I modelli dei soci'
there's a model for a boomerang made from a
triangle... I just noticed it a day or two ago,
but havent had a chance to try it out...

-charles

On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, martin wrote:

> I have made adjustable indoor throwing discs out of cardstock for years ---
> call them Flugels --- from the German word for fly. Can throw them about 50
> feet.
>
> My designs require indenting, creasing and cutting. Does anyone know of a
> design(s) for a Frisbee-like (somebody's trademark) throwing disc that does
> not require cutting?
>
> I can send a scan of one of our discs as a jpeg or giff attachment to an
> email if anyone is interested. I hesitate attaching the scan to this
> message --- because it may be clutter to many.
>
> Martin R. Carbone
> 1227 De La Vina St.
> Santa Barbara, CA 93101
> Tel: 805-965-5574
> Fax: 805-965-2414
> email: mrcinc@silcom.com
> Websites: http://www.modelshops.com <<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: DLister891@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:26:48 -0400 (
Subject: NO: Dollar Bills.

Many thanks to Arlene Anderson for her posting from the World Book
Encyclopedia explaining that the early American colonists used Bills of
Exchange when trading with English traders, and later, Bills of Credit, so
that they were familiar with the term "Bill".

It would be quite natural for the colonists to use the familiar word Bill to
describe banknotes when they were introduced. Ordinary people would be unable
to separate what were technically bills from what were technically notes.

On the other hand, while bills of exchange were also used in England, they
were confined to use in trade by merchants and there was no need for the
general populace to have anything to do with such exotic types of money as
bills of exchange or bills of credit. So bank notes came to be known by their
own name of "note".

This is the information I was looking for and I accept that this could well be
the explanation of why American bank notes are called dollar bills.

If anyone comes across any futher information, do please post it.

Meanwhile I thank  Arlene and to all those other people who have joined in
this discussion of this query from a _curious_ Englishman.

David Lister.





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:23:20 +0200
Subject: Re: Folded flying discs?

On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, martin wrote:
> My designs require indenting, creasing and cutting. Does anyone know of a
> design(s) for a Frisbee-like (somebody's trademark) throwing disc that does
> not require cutting?

There are a couple of disc-like models around. I recall one by Jeff
Beynon, but I suppose that there are others. Jeff Beynon's model requires
seven pieces of paper.

[l8r] Now I've found another one. In der falter #15, there is a frisbee by
Michel Grand. It is said that he folds them on his voyages through Nepal
as a toy for kids.

> I hesitate attaching the scan to this message --- because it may be
> clutter to many.

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! It's working! ;-)

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: Joseph Wu <josephwu@ULTRANET.CA>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:10:43 -0700
Subject: Kawasaki's new book!!!!
I had a nice surprise waiting for me when I got home today. KAWASAKI
Toshiyuki (of Kawasaki rose fame) had sent me a presentation copy of his
new book. He's promised a book for years now, and it's nice to see results!
It's entitled "Rose, Origami, and Mathematics" (his translation). The book
includes what is commonly known as "the new rose" (with more detailed
diagrams than Winson's), and a rose with calyx that is similar in
construction to the rose in "Origami for the Connoisseur" (there are photos
of this rose in one of the Oru magazines). Also, there are many modular
constructions and a long math section at the end (unfortunately, this is
all in Japanese).

Here are the particulars:
Title:     Bara to Origami to Suugaku to
           (Roses, Origami, and Mathematics - my translation)
Publisher: Morikita
           http://www.morikita.co.jp
           Tel: +81-3-3265-8341
           Fax: +81-3-3264-8709
Pub. Date: Sept. 1, 1998
ISBN:      4-627-01671-9

So, all you Kawasaki fans out there, time to bug Sasuga to order this book!
----------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph Wu, Origami Artist and Multimedia Producer
t:604.730.0306 x 105   f: 604.732.7331   e: josephwu@ultranet.ca





From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:19:33 +0100
Subject: Expensive folding money

. . . and then there are U.S. Treasury bills, notes and bonds. The three
terms seem to refer mainly to maturity times, rather than to what form of
backing they have. They all can be purchased in $1,000 multiples.

Some older notes and bonds still exist as paper, rather than as data
bits, and are perhaps 20 x 20 inches. They have teeny coupons that you
clip off and cash in twice a year. These fragments can be worth $5,000,
for example in the case of a $100,000 bond with a 10 percent interest
rate. Make nice origami tips?

Bills are purchased at a discount from the value at maturity and mature
in three months to one year.

Notes mature in two to 10 years, and pay interest semi-annually.

Bonds are the 30-year securities so often in the news.

Just my 20,000,000 cents.

-Jane





From: "James M. Sakoda" <James_Sakoda@BROWN.EDU>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:23:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Cheap Folding Money?

>I've never folded with them, but it suddenly occurs to me that those "Hell
>Bank Notes" one sometimes sees for sale in Asian grocery stores could make
>for some entertainingly-decorated money folds.
>
>-- Jim Puccio

I have tried hell bank notes.  They generally look like American dollar
bills, but may vary in size and quality of paper.  See if they are suitable
for your purpose before you buy too many.  Check my web site for some
diagrams.  James M. Sakoda.  http://idt.net/~kittyv





From: John & Hope <hopen2@MEGSINET.NET>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:52:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Folded flying discs?

Torsten Drees wrote:

> martin wrote:
>
> > My designs require indenting, creasing and cutting. Does anyone know of a
> > design(s) for a Frisbee-like (somebody's trademark) throwing disc that does
> > not require cutting?
> >
> > I can send a scan of one of our discs as a jpeg or giff attachment to an
> > email if anyone is interested. I hesitate attaching the scan to this
> > message --- because it may be clutter to many.
> >
> Hello Martin,
>
> Perhaps I get an idea when I see your model.
> If you like, send it to me and I will try out.
>
> Torsten

  Would appreciate if you can send to hiopen2@megsinet.net   Thanks!!!!!!!
Hope in Illinois





From: John & Hope <hopen2@MEGSINET.NET>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:53:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Folded flying discs?

Torsten Drees wrote:

> martin wrote:
>
> > My designs require indenting, creasing and cutting. Does anyone know of a
> > design(s) for a Frisbee-like (somebody's trademark) throwing disc that does
> > not require cutting?
> >
> > I can send a scan of one of our discs as a jpeg or giff attachment to an
> > email if anyone is interested. I hesitate attaching the scan to this
> > message --- because it may be clutter to many.
> >
> Hello Martin,
>
> Perhaps I get an idea when I see your model.
> If you like, send it to me and I will try out.
>
> Torsten

  Would appreciate if you can send to hopen2@megsinet.net  Thanks!!!!!!!    Hope
in Illinois





From: Torsten Drees <torsten.drees@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:54:04 +0200
Subject: Re: Folded flying discs?

martin wrote:

> My designs require indenting, creasing and cutting. Does anyone know of a
> design(s) for a Frisbee-like (somebody's trademark) throwing disc that does
> not require cutting?
>
> I can send a scan of one of our discs as a jpeg or giff attachment to an
> email if anyone is interested. I hesitate attaching the scan to this
> message --- because it may be clutter to many.
>
Hello Martin,

Perhaps I get an idea when I see your model.
If you like, send it to me and I will try out.

Torsten





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:20:44 +0100
Subject: Re: Folded flying discs?

martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM> sez

>My designs require indenting, creasing and cutting. Does anyone know of a
>design(s) for a Frisbee-like (somebody's trademark) throwing disc that does
>not require cutting?

There's one in my old book of airplanes which works reasonably well from
stiff paper.

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: Russell Sutherland <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:11:00 -0400 (
Subject: Origami Survey: Just One Question

Greetings Fellow Folders:

I am taking a research methods class and am collecting data for a qualitative
analysis paper.  I would appreciate your participation in my survey.  It
consists of just one question (aside from the demographic info).  Please feel
free to elaborate on this open ending question.... the more, the better.

Please fill out the following info and answer the question at the end.

AGE:                     1-20       21-40      41-60       61-80     81-+++

GENDER:                    M                F

MARITAL

ETHNICITY:                W               B                   H
A           OTHER

QUESTION:

How do you relate to others through origami?

You can post your response to the list or to me personally at RGS467@AOL.COM.

Thanks in advance.

Russell : )





From: "Wu, Sonia" <swu@BANSHEE.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:37:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami Survey: Just One Question

Russell,

Here's my demographic info:

Age:  21-40
Gender:  F
Marital Status: S
Ethnicity:  A (well, half, really)

How do I relate to others through origami?  Largely through introducing
them to it initially, or teaching it.  I like to make origami seem a
friendly and approachable hobby that anyone can do and enjoy.  When I
teach I encourage precise folding but don't dwell on it (out of the
worry that it would make the novice folder feel unskilled or
inadequate).  I teach as informally as possible, offering praise for
simple things. I try to pick things that are fairly easy to fold that
look sharp to build interest and confidence.

At conventions, it's very different but more exciting--being with other
people who love origami is an incredible rush.  It's fun to talk with
people about their favorite books and about the different models they've
folded.  Plus, there's something so charming about feeling comfortable
asking others to teach you what they've learned.  I try to appreciate
the different perspectives of the other folders, from those excited by
the very complex to those who like flying airplanes.  It's also
interesting to see how the teachers decide to present their
classes--almost like watching a play.  And satisfying to see how people
help each other in class.

I like that origami establishes connections between people--between
designer and folder, between teacher and class, between folders.  It's a
very satisfying learning experience.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russell Sutherland [SMTP:RGS467@AOL.COM]
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 1998 12:11 PM
> To:   ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject:      Origami Survey: Just One Question
>
> Greetings Fellow Folders:
>
>
> I am taking a research methods class and am collecting data for a
> qualitative
> analysis paper.  I would appreciate your participation in my survey.
> It
> consists of just one question (aside from the demographic info).
> Please feel
> free to elaborate on this open ending question.... the more, the
> better.
>
>
> Please fill out the following info and answer the question at the end.
>
> AGE:                     1-20       21-40      41-60       61-80
> 81-+++
>
> GENDER:                    M                F
>
> MARITAL
> STATUS:                      M            S              D
>
>
> ETHNICITY:                W               B                   H
> A           OTHER
>
>
> QUESTION:
>
> How do you relate to others through origami?
>
>
>
> You can post your response to the list or to me personally at
> RGS467@AOL.COM.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Russell : )





From: Judy D Pagnusat <judypag@JUNO.COM>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:08:48 -0700
Subject: Large Origami Paper

Hi All,

I am very privilaged as I get to work with origami paper every day as my
job.  My company was sent some samples from Japan for us to consider
importing and selling here in the states.  We would appriciate an opinion
from any of you who care to give one.  The paper  would be kami paper,
the size would be 201/2" square.  We already have 14" for sale and so far
we have not gotten the information out that it is available so not many
of you have probably seen it. Will 20" be of interest to you?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Judy Pagnusat
(Yasutomo)

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From: Chinh Nguyen <chinhsta@GWIS2.CIRC.GWU.EDU>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 02:09:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Large Origami Paper

On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Judy D Pagnusat wrote:

> the size would be 201/2" square.  We already have 14" for sale and so far
> we have not gotten the information out that it is available so not many
> of you have probably seen it. Will 20" be of interest to you?

Yes, though in all honesty, it will probably be of more "it's cool to have
that" than it is practical.  Still, though, it would be really nice to be
able to get my grubby paws on some... make some complicated models of
stature with kami instead of having to cut my own square.  Would also make
great practice paper for Lang insects ;)...





From: Lynelle Van Horn <LynelleV@AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:58:08 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Folded flying discs?

There is a flying disc that Mette Pedersen taught at the origami convention,
it is also in her new book "More Mette Units".  It is a modular design made of
7 units. The disk when completed has a hollow center and flies pretty well
with kami.  It flies better if you use slightly heavier paper.
Lynelle V





From: Chris T Durham <gandalf_15@JUNO.COM>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:26:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Large Origami Paper

Definantly.

CTD

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From: Mike Kanarek <kanarekorigami@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 10:51:58 -0700 (
Subject: photography

Hi!  You can adapt any single-lens-reflex camera to take close-ups with
the following simple equipment: auxiliary close-up filters.  These come
in different strengths, expressed as "diopters."  Also called "plus
lenses" or "plus filters", a set of three in +1,+2 and +3 strengths
isn't too expensive, (less than $50, much less expensive than zoom
lenses or macro lenses.)  They screw into the front of the camera lens
and you buy them in the diameter size of the front of whatever lens you
have.  This is usually marked on the lens itself.

There are other ways to get close-up pictures, but this is the easiest
and cheapest way to get started.  No exposure change is needed with
these plus filters.  If you would like more info (I'm a
semi-professional photographer), please feel free to ask.   Write to:
Anita c/o Mike Kanarek, the list

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From: Ian McRobbie <Ourldypeac@AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:20:14 -0400 (
Subject: Origami for the Connoisseur

Fellow Folders,
   If you are like me, you have probably anticipated the re-publishing of
"Origami for the Connoisseur," for quite some time.  And if you are really
like me, you have already ordered it.
   My question is:  Does anyone know when it is to be published??
   I am in Maryland now and I am moving to Houston, TX on the 16th of this
month.  Our mail is being shipped to the new house, starting the 15,
but.....If the book is shipped before we move, then we move, I am in trouble.
                                   Thanks all,
                                         Ian





From: Robby/Laura <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:05:29 +0200
Subject: Re: Folded flying discs?

Charles,
At 15.39 10/9/1998 -0700, you wrote:

>In Centro Diffusione Origami
>http://195.31.193.71:80/cdo/

Here's the usual alias for this address:

http://www.essenet.it/cdo

>under the 'I modelli dei soci'
>there's a model for a boomerang made from a
>triangle...

The model is by David Derudas, a talented young folder from Sardinia.  In
our magazine Quadrato Magico n. 46 he has also published a "Boomerang 2"
shaped as a true boomerang, from an A4 rectangle.

I take the chance for an update about our special CDO "20th Anniversary"
Convention. It will take place in Castel San Pietro near Bologna, from Dec.
5th to 8th inclusive. Several foreign friends are expected to attend, among
them Michael LaFosse, Eric Joisel, Alain Georgeot, Vincent Floderer, Jan
Polish, Vicente Palacios, Mette Pederson, Herman Van Goubergen, John Smith,
David Lister.....

An event not to miss ! Write to the CDO (cdo@essenet.it) or to our P.R.
Sara Giarrusso (papersar@tin.it) for info's and bookings. The Convention
will be hosted in a big Hotel, but places are limited....

Roberto





From: Susan Dugan <florafauna@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:36:03 -0400
Subject: Re: photography

Anita,
The problem with auxiliary close-up filters unlike extension tubes or
bellows is that they distort the image, you are putting cheap glass in front
of your expensive lens. A little known method for close-ups which is not
very $$ is a reversal ring which screws into the front of the camera lens
and will allow you to mount the front of the lens to the camera body. You
have to get the reversal ring for your camera make and unless you are in NY
it will problem be special order. This gives very good results, the draw
back are 1. the rear end of your lens is exposed do not do this around
things that spit or splash! 2. The lens will stop down (get dark) so you
need to focus then set your exposure. I am not sure or the availability on
the newer AF cameras but its grate for the older SLRs.
Hobbit





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:47:33 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Survey: Just One Question

At 12:11 PM 9/11/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Greetings Fellow Folders:
>
>
>I am taking a research methods class and am collecting data for a qualitative
>analysis paper.  I would appreciate your participation in my survey.  It
>consists of just one question (aside from the demographic info).  Please feel
>free to elaborate on this open ending question.... the more, the better.
>
>
>Please fill out the following info and answer the question at the end.
>
>AGE:                     1-20       21-40      41-60       61-80     81-+++
>
>GENDER:                    M                F
>
>MARITAL
>STATUS:                      M            S              D
>
>
>ETHNICITY:                W               B                   H
>A           OTHER
>
>
>QUESTION:
>
>How do you relate to others through origami?
>
>
>
>You can post your response to the list or to me personally at RGS467@AOL.COM.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Russell : )
>
>
Hi Russ,

    This is a good sample of a survey and I wish mine had been like this
because mine was so long it didn't
appeal to that many people, but it was interesting to do anyhow.  Please let
the list know the results of
your survey.  I know Kathy Meyer will be interested as much as I am.  Here's
my response:
AGE: 41-60
Gender: F
Ethnicity: W
     As for how I relate to others through origami, I find that it helps me
in my job as a substitute teacher
because I use it as a fun activity that breaks the ice.  It's an immediate,
hands on situation that I can
lead and have the children perform in a cooperative, friendly way, because
the kids who catch on to the fold
sequence then most always help their mates around them.  Before I know it
the whole class is creating models
of different sizes and putting them together in different ways and
decorating them.  I get satisfaction from
seeing the kids being creative with what I've shown them.  Even the ones who
don't have artistic talent can
be creative with the simple models I demonstrate to them.  As a friend of
mine put it, origami is empowering.
The magic of taking a square of paper and making a swan or a box or a
butterfly or more complex models and
then creating other things with the models is what really turns me on to
origami and I see that happen with
the kids I teach too!  Origami appeals to the kid in me and the sense of
wonder that goes along with being a
kid is a great feeling.  Outside the classroom, I find people who are
interested in my hobby on the list and
at conventions and that is fun too because I have a common bond with them
and I enjoy chats on the net and
even regular correspondence with people I've never seen.  My interest has
grown to the point where I've got
a regular club started at the library.  Sharing my hobby has helped me to
give something of myself to others
in a bigger way than I ever have before and that makes me feel good!





From: Chrome Digital <chromedigi@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:59:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Large Origami Paper

>The paper  would be kami paper,
>the size would be 201/2" square.  We already have 14" for sale and so far
>we have not gotten the information out that it is available so not many
>of you have probably seen it. Will 20" be of interest to you?

Absolutely, but for machine-made paper in that size range, I'd be
*considerably* more interested in Japanese foils than plain kami.

-- Jim Puccio





From: Mike and Janet Hamilton <Mikeinnj@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 22:01:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Large Origami Paper

>The paper  would be kami paper,
>the size would be 201/2" square.  We already have 14" for sale and so far
>we have not gotten the information out that it is available so not many
>of you have probably seen it. Will 20" be of interest to you?

Yes - I'd like to be able to practice with relatively inexpensive kami in
large sizes before trying complex models with more expensive paper.

Janet Hamilton

mailto:Mikeinnj@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~Mikeinnj





From: Keropi <keropi@VT.EDU>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:23:48 -0400
Subject: creative origami

Hi,
    can anyone tell me what models are in Creative Origami by Kunihiko
kasahara?  Its the one with the mask and a yellow cover (I think).  I'm
considering buying it.  Thank you.





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 05:50:17 -0700
Subject: Folder Survey

Greetings,

     When I checked my mail this morning, I realized that I didn't identify
myself on the survey.  It looks
like John Sutter answered the survey except for the info in the gender
category.  John set up the e mail,
but Ria, that's me, uses it more than he does.

Ria Sutter ( John's wife)





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 06:05:10 -0700
Subject: Re: Large Origami Paper

At 08:08 PM 9/11/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I am very privilaged as I get to work with origami paper every day as my
>job.  My company was sent some samples from Japan for us to consider
>importing and selling here in the states.  We would appriciate an opinion
>from any of you who care to give one.  The paper  would be kami paper,
>the size would be 201/2" square.  We already have 14" for sale and so far
>we have not gotten the information out that it is available so not many
>of you have probably seen it. Will 20" be of interest to you?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help,
>
>Judy Pagnusat
>(Yasutomo)
>
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>
Hi Judy,

Yes the larger size kami paper is a great idea and I'd be interested in it
for demonstration purposes.

Ria Sutter





From: John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 06:32:21 -0700
Subject: Re: creative origami

At 12:23 AM 9/13/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi,
>    can anyone tell me what models are in Creative Origami by Kunihiko
>kasahara?  Its the one with the mask and a yellow cover (I think).  I'm
>considering buying it.  Thank you.
>
>
Hi Keropi,

     I have that book and Kasahara is a favorite artist of mine.  Here is a
list of models:
Chapt. 1  Birds
Hen               Pheasant           Pelican           Parakeet           Crane
Swan              Flamingo              Owl             Peacock
Lyre bird
Penguin           Swallow              Ducks            Sea Gull           Eagle
Stork             Game Cock
Dhapt.2  Animals
Monkey            Elephant            Snake              Deer
Snake
Puppy              Lions               Squirrel         Bear
Chimp
T-REX             Mouse               Kangaroo           Bull
Tiger
Rhino             Giraffe              Gorilla          Horse
Dragon
Lizzard            Camel              Ram
Chapt.3  Insects & Flowers & Sea Life   Dragonfly,  Sunflower,  Seahorse
for examples (22 more)
Chapt.4  Masks & People                 Devil,        Sphinx,
Buddah  and   (23 more)
Chapt.5  Thrill of Creating         Creative Order,Basic Folds & Compounds,
Making framework and finishing

It's a good book!
Ria Sutter





From: Judy D Pagnusat <judypag@JUNO.COM>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 07:59:23 -0700
Subject: Re: creative origami

On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 06:32:21 -0700 John Sutter <sutterj@EARTHLINK.NET>
writes:
>At 12:23 AM 9/13/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>Hi,
>>    can anyone tell me what models are in Creative Origami by
>Kunihiko
>>kasahara?  Its the one with the mask and a yellow cover (I think).
>I'm
>>considering buying it.  Thank you.
>>
>>
>Hi Keropi,
>
>     I have that book and Kasahara is a favorite artist of mine.  Here
>is a
>list of models:
>Chapt. 1  Birds
>Hen               Pheasant           Pelican           Parakeet
>   Crane
>Swan              Flamingo              Owl             Peacock
>Lyre bird
>Penguin           Swallow              Ducks            Sea Gull
>    Eagle
>Stork             Game Cock
>Dhapt.2  Animals
>Monkey            Elephant            Snake              Deer
>Snake
>Puppy              Lions               Squirrel         Bear
>Chimp
>T-REX             Mouse               Kangaroo           Bull
>Tiger
>Rhino             Giraffe              Gorilla          Horse
>Dragon
>Lizzard            Camel              Ram
>Chapt.3  Insects & Flowers & Sea Life   Dragonfly,  Sunflower,
>Seahorse
>for examples (22 more)
>Chapt.4  Masks & People                 Devil,        Sphinx,
>Buddah  and   (23 more)
>Chapt.5  Thrill of Creating         Creative Order,Basic Folds &
>Compounds,
>Making framework and finishing
>
>It's a good book!
>Ria Sutter
>
Karopi,

I also love this book, it is one of my favorites.

Judy

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From: Joanne Roiter <chug@GIBRALTER.NET>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:45:32 +0000
Subject: Re: Folded flying discs?

I wish to be unsubscribed from this origami list. How do I unsubcribe?
Thank you
J Roiter

Robby/Laura wrote:

> Charles,
> At 15.39 10/9/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >In Centro Diffusione Origami
> >http://195.31.193.71:80/cdo/
>
> Here's the usual alias for this address:
>
> http://www.essenet.it/cdo
>
> >under the 'I modelli dei soci'
> >there's a model for a boomerang made from a
> >triangle...
>
> The model is by David Derudas, a talented young folder from Sardinia.  In
> our magazine Quadrato Magico n. 46 he has also published a "Boomerang 2"
> shaped as a true boomerang, from an A4 rectangle.
>
> I take the chance for an update about our special CDO "20th Anniversary"
> Convention. It will take place in Castel San Pietro near Bologna, from Dec.
> 5th to 8th inclusive. Several foreign friends are expected to attend, among
> them Michael LaFosse, Eric Joisel, Alain Georgeot, Vincent Floderer, Jan
> Polish, Vicente Palacios, Mette Pederson, Herman Van Goubergen, John Smith,
> David Lister.....
>
> An event not to miss ! Write to the CDO (cdo@essenet.it) or to our P.R.
> Sara Giarrusso (papersar@tin.it) for info's and bookings. The Convention
> will be hosted in a big Hotel, but places are limited....
>
> Roberto





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:27:42 -0500
Subject: Re: Large Origami Paper

>Hi All,
>
>I am very privilaged as I get to work with origami paper every day as my
>job.  My company was sent some samples from Japan for us to consider
>importing and selling here in the states.  We would appriciate an opinion
>from any of you who care to give one.  The paper  would be kami paper,
>the size would be 201/2" square.  We already have 14" for sale and so far
>we have not gotten the information out that it is available so not many
>of you have probably seen it. Will 20" be of interest to you?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help,

I don't know Judy, how much will it cost?
Perry





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@OPENCOMINC.COM>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:33:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Folded flying discs?

>There is a flying disc that Mette Pedersen taught at the origami convention,
>it is also in her new book "More Mette Units".  It is a modular design made of
>7 units. The disk when completed has a hollow center and flies pretty well
>with kami.  It flies better if you use slightly heavier paper.
>Lynelle V

Lynelle,

Can I get a copy of the diagrams, I do not own the book, but would like to see
     the construction.

Perry





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:22:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Large Origami Paper

Judy D Pagnusat indited:

+the size would be 201/2" square.  We already have 14" for sale and so far
+we have not gotten the information out that it is available so not many
+of you have probably seen it. Will 20" be of interest to you?

Maybe.  I would depend on price and also on how square the paper really is.
At that size, having to fix a non square piece is enough of a pain that I'd
just as soon use a different paper.  At 20", the standard paper will be
effectively very thin, perhaps even "floppy" in the final model.  What have
you folded with it so far?

Thanks for asking!
    -D'gou





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:05:04 +0100
Subject: BOS home page news

A new feature at the BOS site is a gallery of pictures showing origami
folk in the raw, as it were. If you have any less than flattering photos
you'd like to share, let me have them pronto!

The on-line supplies system is now fully operational (a bit like the
death-star? Oops - Trekky reference) so you can browse & buy from the
BOS' superb collection of booklets & convention packs. A detailed list
of the contents is being prepared in case you're not sure which to buy
first! The more you buy, the more older numbers will be reprinted - in
case you need an excuse!

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:13:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Origami Survey: Just One Question

Hi Russ:

Good luck on your research methods class project. Below is my response.

> AGE:                             21-40
> GENDER:                     F
> MARITAL STATUS:    S
> ETHNICITY:               W
>
> QUESTION: How do you relate to others through origami?

Because I am fairly new to origami (6 months) I do not have many experiences to
reflect upon....

I have an origami mobile hanging in my store and it's fun to see people's
reaction to it, most people don't notice it or even know what origami is, so
     when
someone says, "Oh look at the origami" I just light up and we talk about
     origami.
It brings me closer to my customers. We become more like friends instead of just
a sales women/customer relationship. It helps to break up barriers and makes
people more comfortable.

I have used origami as a thank you for a nice gesture, a neighbor surprised me
with some tomatoes from her garden so I folded her a flower and put it in a Fuse
box. She was delighted by my thank you and the next day there were more tomatoes
outside my door. :)

Hope this helps.

Kathy <*))))><





From: Dorothy Engleman <FoldingCA@WEBTV.NET>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:17:58 -0700
Subject: Folding California Television Show

I would like to thank everyone who responded to the fund-raising appeal
that I posted to the list last month for my origami television show,
Folding California.

Folding California is now in the final post-production phase and will
soon become a reality because of the extraordinary contributions of over
eighty artists and folders, a translator and title animator who
generously donated their talents to my show.

I would like to invite all of you to become a part of this truly unique
and collaborative project by helping to sponsor and subsidize the
completion of Folding California.

You will receive a screen credit and, for a donation of fifty dollars or
more, a complimentary copy of Folding California.

If you would like to help sponsor/subsidize Folding California, please
contact me privately. This appeal, by the way,  is not directed to the
artists and folders who have already given an embarassment of riches to
Folding California.

Here is my original fund-raising appeal that I posted to the list on
August 19th:

Since last September, I have posted to the list about an origami
television show that I am writing, producing, directing and editing,
called Folding California.

Here's a brief update: So far, over eighty people from all over the
origami world - artists, folders, consultants, a title animator and a
translator - have
generously contributed their talents to Folding California.

Several hundred models have been folded and a number of original models
have been commissioned, including Marc Kirschenbaum's En Route To The
Observatory (King Kong Climbing the Empire State Building), which he
taught this year at the OrigamiUSA Convention.
Folding California will be completed by December 1998. It is being
produced for the City of Santa Monica, California and will air on the
municipal cable channel. I will enter Folding California in film and
video festivals throughout the country and I hope to eventually air it
on national television.

The City of Santa Monica has given me very limited resources for the
production of Folding California. Thanks to Florence Temko, an origami
angel from the community has donated funds to subsidize the cost of
crewing two additional shoots.

However, I will still need additional funding to subsidize the cost of
on-line editing @$100/hour and the cost of music licenses.  Although
Folding California is an educational, non-profit and non-commercial
show, I will not be able to secure all music publishing and performance
rights gratis. I will have to purchase separate music licenses for the
privilege of entering film festivals and for screening Folding
California in the US (one license) and in Europe (another more expensive
license).

I would like to issue an appeal for people to help sponsor and subsidize
the completion of Folding California. You will receive a screen credit
and, for a donation of fifty dollars or more, a complimentary copy of
Folding California.

You will also be supporting a most unique origami television project.
Folding California features an entire origami cast of characters and
contains a major collection of origami art. It is my hope that audiences
will be inspired by the spectacle of richly detailed, beautifully folded
origami art to learn how to create their own paper magic. Contact
information for OrigamiUSA and the British Origami Society will be
provided in the end-credits.

If Folding California does well in the video competitions (I have
previously won a CableACE and have been nominated for an Emmy), I hope
to receive grant money to produce more origami television shows.
On a personal note, I have been folding since 1984 when I joined Lillian
Oppenheimer's monthly origami salon. It was love at first fold. My
teachers were a glitterati of origami greats: Lillian, Alice Gray,
Michael Shall and Mark Kennedy.
I am dedicating Folding California to Lillian, Alice and Michael.





From: martin <mrcinc@SILCOM.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 07:37:39 +0100
Subject: Re: Reproducibility of origami.

 Rodrigo wrote ... why is it that some art works like
>music, origami or architecture have "written" instructions like sheet
>music, diagrams and blueprints and are therefore reproducible, and
>others like paintings, sculptures or films are not? ...

This may not be related to Origami --- but I thought the question deserved
a response.

I believe the answer to why certain things do not have "written"
instructions is simply that nobody has figured out how to do it yet. The
fact that spoken words can be represented by marks on paper --- is quite
astounding and a tribute to the ingenuity of humans.

I think choreography has been diagrammed, and sculptures can be put down on
paper by cross sectional drawings, and paintings are really diagrams
themselves of life or imagined things. Films have story boards that depict
the various scenes and the written dialog. Operas have a libretto. Baseball
can be diagrammed and football has been diagrammed but I  don't think
anyone has diagrammed basketball. If you can diagram Choreography --- I
guess you could diagram Michael Jordan.

A great book was self published a few years ago that systematically
considered all sorts of ingeneous graphic representations of various
things. I forget the name of the book or author --- but his best example
was a graphic showing Napoleon's  campaign in and out of Russia. Someone
else may contribute the title. If you are interested in this field, --- get
this book.

Martin R. Carbone
1227 De La Vina St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93101
Tel: 805-965-5574
Fax: 805-965-2414
email: mrcinc@silcom.com
Websites: http://www.modelshops.com <<<and>>> http://www.silcom.com/~mrcinc





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 07:51:15 +0100
Subject: BOS site - and there's more!

More progress - the BOS site now has an on-line sale/swap/wanted page,
where you can place your adverts on-line. Please keep these relevant to
origami or they will be removed...

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: Marcia Mau <maumoy@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:26:22 -0700 (
Subject: Origami Sighting - The Kennedy Center

The Kennedy Center, Washington, DC  held their annual open house
yesterday.  The Capital Children's Museum had a table staffed by two
volunteers who were folding pressmen's hats for children. Upturned hats
were also used to hold the feathers, Easter grass, markers, and glitter
used by the children to decorate the hats.   I stopped by the table to
learn the model and stayed long enough to fold ten hats.  They used
24x36" sheets of blank newsprint.  The hat is diagrammed in Newspaper
Magic by Gene Anderson and Frances Marshall, published by Magic Inc.

I was surprised to meet Dorothy Amdur, Toby Schwartz, Erna Lindner, and
two other women from New York wearing their 1998 Origami USA convention
tshirts at the open house.  We had just a moment together for them to
tell me they were in Washington for two days  scouting volunteer museum
activities.

The Kennedy Center recently mailed out an Imagination Celebration
brochure describing upcoming performances for children.  The brochure is
illustrated w/ paper airplanes and contains one model w/ folding
instructions.

Marcia Mau
Vienna, VA USA

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From: Foldmaster@AOL.COM
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:16:29 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Large Origami Paper

Dear Clare,

To answer your questions:  Yes, Kami paper is referring to the traditional
origami paper and 20" square is equivalent to 50 cm square.

Yours,

June Sakamoto





From: "Rodrigo A. Pantoja" <informat@CHILESAT.NET>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:33:40 -0400
Subject: Reproducibility of origami.

Hi:

    I was reading some of David Lister's postings to origami-l and I
started thinking about origami and it's relation to other art forms.
The question that occurred t me is why is it that some art works like
music, origami or architecture have "written" instructions like sheet
music, diagrams and blueprints and are therefore reproducible, and
others like paintings, sculptures or films are not?  I was originally
thinking it had to do with complexity, maybe an origami model is less
complex than a painting and so it is possible to "write" instructions
for making it that are simple enough for anybody to follow.  Then I
thought that St. Peter's Cathedral is quite complex also, but if you had
the blueprints you might be able to build another one.  Then I got out
of ideas, so I haven't been able to answer my own question yet.  Maybe
some of you may have some ideas on the subject.

Peace,
Rodrigo.-





From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:04:27 -0700
Subject: Re: Large Origami Paper

Judy P. wrote:
(snip) Will 20" be of interest to you?
>
Oh my God yes!  Large paper would be invaluable to me in trying out new
models.  I'd particularly love to re-attempt some of Lang's insects with
big paper so the finer parts wouldn't be so hard to observe or match to the
diagrams.

Is it available now?  Can I order it from you?

"Peace In Creases"

Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:27:08 -0400
Subject: Large Origami Paper

Yes, kami is "regular origami paper", lighter in weight
than generally available "letter paper", and with good
folding characteristics; usually just colored on one side.
Folders use that term to distinguish the "ordinary stuff"
from all the other kinds of more specialized origami papers.
Actually, it may be "ordinary" in Japan, but no USA paper
I've ever seen has the same characteristics.

valerie





From: DGS - Kevin Kinney PhD <kkinney@CAROLINAS.ORG>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:33:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Reproducibility of origami.

>Hi:
>
>    I was reading some of David Lister's postings to origami-l and I
>started thinking about origami and it's relation to other art forms.
>The question that occurred t me is why is it that some art works like
>music, origami or architecture have "written" instructions like sheet
>music, diagrams and blueprints and are therefore reproducible, and
>others like paintings, sculptures or films are not?

And, of course, for at least a few of us, the real beauty of origami is in
its reproducibility.  I have some limited capacity to appreciate a painting
by Da Vinci (or, more often, his sketches), or a sculpture by Michalangelo,
but, you know those pale next to my knowledge that someone out there has
created a set of simple (well, relatively) directions for a rhinoceros,
which, if I follow them correctly, results in a very nice rhino.  Until I
started folding, I really derived little to no enjoyment from the
non-performing arts, but origami, as an art form I can actually participate
in, has made a big difference.  I think that's why I still prefer folds by
Montroll or Lang et al to some of the others-not only are their models
beautiful and detailed, but they explicitly make the directions for
reproducing them available to little old me.

At the last SEOF, in 96, I remember seeing some of E. Joisel's Faces, and a
display by Michael LaFosse of some wonderful creations (including a very
pretty, lifelike frog).  I looked at them, and thought they were very nice,
but they still pale next to the rhino, 'cause I can *make* it.

Of course, I'm a scientist, so reproducibility is a concern...

(the rhino in question, for those who are curious, is the one in Montrolls'
"Origami Sculptures."  )

Kevin Kinney

Kevin Kinney
kkinney@carolinas.org





From: Chrome Digital <chromedigi@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:25:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Reproducibility of origami.

>The question that occurred t me is why is it that some art works like
>music, origami or architecture have "written" instructions like sheet
>music, diagrams and blueprints and are therefore reproducible, and
>others like paintings, sculptures or films are not?

I believe this has to do with how easily mathematizable the art form in
question is; i.e. how easily represented using the mechanisms of lower
mathematics - e.g. the simpler algebras and geometries, since anything
requiring too much work to decode will not be able to be "sight read," and
would probably end up as a data representation for a digital medium instead,
if in the final analysis, anyone paid any attention to the system at all!
For example, in dance there are notations - Labanotation and Benesh spring
to mind, but virtually none of the dancers one meets in real life have ever
heard of them.  Sometimes these things just don't go over particularly well.

Just my two bits worth,

-- Jim Puccio





From: Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:19:04 -0700
Subject: Re: Reproducibility of origami

>A great book was self published a few years ago that systematically
>considered all sorts of ingeneous graphic representations of various
>things. I forget the name of the book or author --- but his best example
>was a graphic showing Napoleon's  campaign in and out of Russia. Someone
>else may contribute the title. If you are interested in this field, --- get
>this book.

This has to be Edward Tufte's "The Visual Display of Quantitative
Information." He also came out with a second volume on the same theme
called "Envisioning Information." Both wonderful, inspirational books.

By the way,I would agree that the origami/music/architecture have written
notations basically because they have a mathmatical or geometrical basis.
Now if someone could find a shared, logical basis for painting or sculpture
or some other more abstract art form, I think we would be reading about
them in the news :->. (hmmmm. Maybe some kind of Jungian notation?)

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com





From: Norman Budnitz <nbudnitz@DUKE.EDU>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:25:19 -0400
Subject: Southeastern Origami Festival

Just a quick note to remind folks that the Southeastern Origami Festival is
fast approaching (September 22 to 27).  The D-Team spent this past weekend
putting up two LIFE-SIZED origami dinosaurs (models by Issei Yoshino) in
the lobby of NationsBank in uptown Charlotte.  The T. rex and the
Triceratops are 33 feet and 27 feet long, respectively.  There are also
twenty giant cranes flying through the lobby of First Union National Bank.
There is still time to register, or just come by for free classes and
wander around uptown Charlotte and gawk at all the origami exhibits.

For more information, check out the web site below.

Norm Budnitz

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Southeastern Origami Festival           Norman Budnitz
PO Box 2573                                     4115 Garrett Drive
Charlotte NC 28247-2573                 Durham NC 27705
Fax:    704-542-3991                            Fax:    919-684-6168
jbax@mindspring.com                             nbudnitz@duke.edu

http://southeastorigami.home.mindspring.com/





From: Rob Moes <robert.moes@SNET.NET>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:30:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Large Origami Paper

valerie:

>Folders use that term [kami] to distinguish the "ordinary stuff"
>from all the other kinds of more specialized origami papers.
>Actually, it may be "ordinary" in Japan, but no USA paper
>I've ever seen has the same characteristics.

I agree, I think the term does have some usefulness in the U.S. for a
general all-purpose, thin, fairly durable, and crisp-folding paper of
Japanese style (if not actual manufacture).

I think I'd also like to try some of this large size kami-type paper, as an
alternative to Fadeless Art Paper or butcherblock, which just haven't
suited me well for the more complex models.

I've also grown quite discouraged by the quality of tissue paper available
in the U.S. for backcoating with foil.  It just doesn't hold up in the
bright colors.  Presently I use fairly inexpensive unryu type, which holds
up well but even that is not widely available in all the colors.  Perhaps
this new paper will be just thin enough and perfect.

Rob, connoisseur of giant mutant origami spiders
robert.moes@snet.net





From: "Chamberlain, Clare" <Clare.Chamberlain@HEALTH.WA.GOV.AU>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:42:48 +0800
Subject: Large Origami Paper

PLEASE, please what is kami paper??  do you mean traditional origami paper?
Kami paper is a completely meaningless term, as it just means 'paper' paper.
And while I'm being a pedant, what's 20 inches anyway......about 50 cm
suqare?





From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@CONCENTRA.COM>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:48:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Southeastern Origami Festival
Norm Budnitz wrote:

   Just a quick note to remind folks that the Southeastern Origami Festival is
   fast approaching (September 22 to 27).  The D-Team spent this past weekend
   putting up two LIFE-SIZED origami dinosaurs (models by Issei Yoshino) in
   the lobby of NationsBank in uptown Charlotte.  The T. rex and the
   Triceratops are 33 feet and 27 feet long, respectively.  There are also
   twenty giant cranes flying through the lobby of First Union National Bank.
   There is still time to register, or just come by for free classes and
   wander around uptown Charlotte and gawk at all the origami exhibits.

My half-complete model of Menger's Sponge will also be on display
(if it survives shipping!) at the Discovery Place museum in Charlotte,
as part of the festival.  Many thanks to Jonathan Baxter, who
convinced them to give it display space.

        -- Jeannine Mosely  (http://world.std.com/~j9/sponge)
