




From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 12:03:02 -0700
Subject: Re: chess board, Montroll's last book

Yes there's a bee in the new Montroll book.  My model, when finished look
more waspish (the body comes out longish) but if Montrol says it's a bee,
it's a bee.

Origami:  "Stop Drop and Fold!"
Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 12:12:37 -0700
Subject: Re: lacrosse model

The excellent David Brill book, "Brilliant Origami" has quite a few models
that are representations of standing "full body persons" (According to this
classification I must apparently regard myself as an 'extra body person'
until I lose some weight...? : )

Aside from St. George on the cover, there is also a cox, the three wise
men, Father Christmas (I think) and some others.  All are made from the
same basic base.

At 04:35 PM 6/8/98 EDT, you wrote:
>does anyone know how to make a lacrosse origami model, or any other type of
>full body person, or where i could find one?
>Thanks
>

Origami:  "Stop Drop and Fold!"
Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 12:26:52 -0700
Subject: Re: paper storage (Was Large Furniture-paper storage)

For those in the U.S., which is secretly ruled by Wal-Mart and not the
federal government as some believe, there is a bin that Wal-Mart stores
just started carrying which I have found perfect for paper storage.  It
comes with two dark green baskets inside, which I'm using for 6" paper and
less, while the main storage bin easily accommodates my 12" paper.  Even
with a stack of large paper on the bottom and the  baskets on top of this
stack the lid still clips shut.

The only drawback is that the bin is large enough that I would not want to
use it for my travel ling Origami stuff - still wish I could find something
suitable for that...

Origami:  "Stop Drop and Fold!"
Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 12:29:05 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Heart

I could be wrong on this, but I believe one of Gay Merrill Gross' books
contains several hearts, including one which seems to 'float' above the
background.

At 11:05 AM 6/4/98 PDT, you wrote:
>Does anybody know of any origami heart that is 3D and soft-edged? The
>one I found is rather polygonal and flat.
>
>AT
>
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From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 12:35:38 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami tricks and tools

My Origami 'kit' also contains toothpicks (excellent for getting those hard
to reach sinks and 'inverts' to do what they should) as well as chopsticks
(excellent for curling the petals of completed flower models or stuff with
wings), paper clips (modulars), and something truly wonderful I just
discovered: *miniature clothespins*

I originally purchased the clothespins to help display some Origami clothes
(from one of Gay Merrill Gross books).  Later the same evening I attempted
the Kawasaki Rose with floral paper, which is thin and very waxy.  It is
very difficult to make some of the final folds that close the rose at its
base and suddenly I spied my little pile of clothespins - they were like
magic.  I use a total of 4 of them to hold previous folds in place while I
work my way around the model, then remove them when I get to the last one.
They are fantastic!

Each of these little clothespins is about 1/4" long and available in most
of the craft stores and departments I checked.  (p.s. The rose came out
beautifully)

Origami:  "Stop Drop and Fold!"
Steve Woodmansee
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From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 12:40:21 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami tricks and tools

At 12:39 PM 6/4/98 PDT, Aaron wrote:
<snip>...About the paper clips: Are we talking about the traditional paper
clips?
How do you prevent scoring the paper?

I use coated paper clips.  These are multi-colored paper clips, but the
side-effect of coloring is the plastic coating of each clip.  If you don't
put them on the model all the way, the inner (raw) end of the clip (which
IMHO is what does all the damage) does not score the paper.  Also, I
sometimes pre-bend the clips so the tension will not be severe.  The
section of the model should just slide into the clip comfortably; it should
not actually be 'pinched' by the clip.

Origami:  "Stop Drop and Fold!"
Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





From: Pat Slider <slider@STONECUTTER.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 14:24:44 -0700
Subject: Re: Where can I get "Eric Kenneways Folding Faces " ?

It is out-of-print in English, but still available in Italian. I've posted
the URL before of an Italian "ship worldwide" internet bookstore but don't
have time to look it up now. Perhaps you can find it searching the mailing
list archives (a search for "Yoshizawa" and "Italian" should turn it
up)....I do have this index of non-Engish booksellers bookmarked though:

http://www.bookwire.com/index/Non-English-Booksellers.html

Good luck.

pat slider
slider@stonecutter.com

>Date:    Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:37:11 +0200
>From:    Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
>Subject: Where can I get "Eric Kenneways Folding Faces " ?

>Hi !!!!

>            Can anyone provide me info on where to get Eric Kenneway's
>"Folding Faces" ? Is it still available ? ISBN ?

>                    Vielen Danke !!!!! Grazie !!! Obrigado ,etc,etc,etc  :-)

>                Ariel





From: "R. Sutherland." <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 15:20:46 -0400 (
Subject: Origami Talk TONIGHT

Greetings Fellow Folders:

The next scheduled chat is TONIGHT, Tuesday, June 9, at 9PM (EST).
@ the Village:  http://www.the-village.com/origami/talk.html

Here is the link:    <A HREF="http://www.the-village.com/origami/talk.html">
Origami Talk</A>

Everyone is welcome to join us!

     Russell : \
RGS467@AOL.com

DARE TO FOLD!!!





From: Terry Buse <tbuse@VSTA.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 15:24:19 -0500
Subject:

Does anyone have a copy of Classic Origami by P.D. Tuyen. I'm working on the
     dragonfly which is supposed to be one of the easier models. I'm folding
     something wrong in steps 7 through 10. I've completed much harder models
     than this (his spider for one). I





From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 15:34:12 -0400
Subject: 1000 Cranes

Lindsey,

hop onto Joseph Wu's Origami Page,
then switch to the link to Gretchen Klotz's
web pages about the 1000 crane project, for
photos of a group 1000 crane project.

When I get home tonight I can also give you
a book reference (Steve & Megumi Biddle, authors)
that has a photo and directions for one also.

There have been a number of group 1000-crane
projects here on the origami list, most recently
one headed by Rachael Katz for Sue Walsh, a
much-loved origami teacher. Another project by
a list member was for a wedding present I think.
As I recall, those were presented in a large glass
jar/bowl, like candy. That might answer your outdoor
project, or perhaps some in a jar, and some hung
in strings from bamboo poles or long plant stakes.

Valerie





From: "Sonia Wu (NC)" <swu@VIRTU.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 17:11:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Squash Fold Apology

Sorry, folks.  Still too much of a rookie to try giving advice on
techniques if I mix up a plain squash fold with a spread squash....

Sonia Wu
(Florida)





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 17:47:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Robert Lang's Dino Skeletons

At 11:58 AM 6/9/98 -0700, <aaron_tu@HOTMAIL.COM>  wrote:
>Anyone know where I can get diagrams of Robert Lang's T-Rex and
>Allusaurus skeletons? I saw pictures of them on Joseph Wu's homepage.
>

There was an old one-piece T-rex diagramed in an old OrigamiUSA Annual
Collection (perhaps 1994 or 1995); perhaps this is what you are refering
to? The Allusaurus still remains one of the most requested, yet not
published set of diagrams.

>In Robert Lang's book, "Insects and Their Kins", he stated that any
>number of points at any length at any position can be designed or
>folded. I am interested in how. Are there books on origami design
>theories? I don't want to reinvent the wheel.

Robert Lang is apparently working on such a book, but that should not stop
you from drawing your own conclusions on model design. There are certain
camps of folders who go about design in a simmilar way, but methods do
vary. As for actual published material, you can find small tidbits of info
in some origami books, notably Peter Engels "Folding the Universe" and Jay
Nolan's "Creating Origami." If you can read Japanese, you might be able to
extract some info from the books by Maekawa and Kawahata. As for Robert
Lang's technique, you can read a bit about the meat of the algorithm his
Treemaker program uses in the freely available online documentation
(ftp.rug.nl/origami/programs). I think there are also some articles that he
published on there as well that relate to the subject of origami design.

Marc





From: Meristein@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 20:01:30 -0400 (
Subject: Re: origami for quilters

Have a look at Origami Quilts, by Tomoko Fuse, ISBN # 4-480-87261-2. It's
available through OUSA, and even though it's in Japanese, the diagrams as
usual are clear and graphic.

Hope this helps.

Merida





From: Ariel <ariel@DATAPHONE.SE>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 20:37:11 +0200
Subject: Where can I get "Eric Kenneways Folding Faces " ?

Hi !!!!

            Can anyone provide me info on where to get Eric Kenneway's
"Folding Faces" ? Is it still available ? ISBN ?

                    Vielen Danke !!!!! Grazie !!! Obrigado ,etc,etc,etc  :-)

                Ariel





From: "MARGARET M. BARBER" <mbarber@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 20:42:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Where can I get "Eric Kenneways Folding Faces " ?

I think the Italian version is also available from OUSA.  They provide an
English translation to go with it -- at least they did last summer when I
got it at the OUSA convention.

Peg Barber
mbarber@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





From: Frommars@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 20:50:17 -0400 (
Subject: Re: lacrosse model

what base are they made from?





From: Meristein@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 21:44:56 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Capital Folders Origami

Yup, too late! Mike is teaching on Tuesdays this summer anyhow, so I might
have made it on my own if the meeting really had been "tomorrow", not today.

Will we see you in NY? Seems to be the only time we all get together. We'll be
there Friday and leave Monday afternoon.

Thanks for the heads up anyhow; email is a good reminder for those of us who
are connected.

Merida & Mike





From: Sebastian Marius Kirsch <skirsch@T-ONLINE.DE>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 22:17:24 +0200
Subject: Re: Insects and their Kins

On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Aaron Tu wrote:
> I have never work foil or foil derivative papers because I have an
> impression that they are rather thick.

They aren't. Trust me, they really aren't. Many people think of a bulky
sandwich, but if you cover the foil only from one side with paper (as I do
most of the time) it is almost thinner than ordinary kami.

I usually don't mind paper that is a little thicker (I also do wet-folding
from watercolor paper and other thicker papers); but for people who are
fanatic about thinness, there are very thin kinds of washi that are still
very strong. Washi can be manufactured down to a thinness of 9cm/m, and
will still be strong. Normal aluminium foil is about 12-14m thick, but it
is also available 8m thick; you just have to find it. Tin foil can be
even thinner and is more malleable, but it is harder to find. And the real
fanatics can try gold foil which can be hammered until it is only a few
hundred molecules thick.

You see, there is still room for improvement. But since I choose my papers
mostly for their looks and not very much for their foldability, I don't
pursue these means.

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: Chris T Durham <gandalf_15@JUNO.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 22:47:43 -0400
Subject: Robert Lang's Pianist

Hey all!

          I am new to the list. By some mysterious chance, I got onto my
friend Peter Budai's account. (I think.) I have Lang's book, Complete
Origami. I would like to know of a base from which to make the Pianist
(without having to use a 4x1 and shave it down.) preferably in inches. I
am going to go to Englnad soon, with my youth group and all of us have to
be prepared use something that we have an interest in to use for
ministry. Since the only thing I am good at is Origami, I decided to do a
presentation on "Origami VS Evolution".(That does not really come into
this, though.) I want a base for the Pianist so I can fairly say that
without cutting I can make a very complex model. If anyone can help, they
have my thanks!

                    Chris T. Durham
                    gandalf_15@juno.com

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From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 04:34:35 -0400 (
Subject: Wrapping cubes: an epilogue

The original problem was:

   1. What is the length of the edge of the largest cube that
   can be completely wrapped by a single dollar bill with the
   only visible seams (raw or folded edges) along the edges of
   the cube?

   2. If you allow seams to cross a face, how big can the cube be?

   For purposes of simplicity, we'll assume that the dollar
   bill is exactly 3 units wide and 7 units long; the size of the
   cube should be expressed in the same units.

This has been an interesting thread; after several iterations of proposed
solutions, Tommy Stevens came up with the best solution for both problems. For
problem 1, the answer is 3/2; for problem 2, it's sqrt(26)/3. You can see
Tommy's solutions at

http://www.dallas.net/~tomkat/billcube.gif
http://www.dallas.net/~tomkat/maxcube.gif

(These are the best that he or I have been able to come up with, but no one
has mathematically proven that they're the theoretical best.)

Martin Gibbs (welcome back to the list, Martin) then raised the the related
question, what's the edge length of the largest cube you can wrap with a unit
square? He cites solutions of his own (side = 1/5 = 0.200) and one by Fujimoto
(side = 1/4 = 0.250), then notes that the theoretical upper limit is sqrt(1/6)
= 0.408.

(By using the term "wrap" a cube rather than "fold" a cube we sidestep the
nebulous issue of whether it locks together. "Wrapping" just means you have to
cover the surface completely.)

As with the dollar bill version, you can ask this question in 2 variants: (1)
what's the largest cube that permits a seamless wrapping and (2) what's the
largest cube if you allow seams to cross a face?

Old geezers who read British Origami Magazine ten years ago might recall that
the square-wrapped-cube problem was addressed in the April '88 and August '88
issues. The solutions presented there were, for the seamless cube, side =
1-sqrt(1/2) = 0.292, and for the seamed cube, side = sqrt(2)/5 = 0.283. The
seamed cube solution is easy: imagine a Greek cross of 5 small squares,
oriented along the diagonal of the unit square. Those 5 squares are five faces
of the cube, and the four corners meet at the top to form the sixth face.

However, the pattern for the seamless cube with the side of 1-sqrt(1/2) is not
as obvious. I'll leave that as a final puzzle for the fans of this type of
problem!

Robert J. Lang
rjlang@aol.com





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 19:28:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Tuyen's Dragonfly

Hi Terry,

I love PD Tuyen!!!! He has a book called Wild Origami too. It's done in
the same fashion. I think his models are great.

It's been a while since I folded the dragon fly (I love the spider too)
Step 7 is just the step 6 rabbit fold in progress. This just makes the
wings fold out to the side and forms the body. (makes it 3D) Step 8 is
the same rabbit fold on the other side. Step 9 is a little tricky, just
stick your finger in between the wings and push open, (that middle
section goes to one side, that's probably the part your stuck on)

Hope this helps. It was fun to fold this model again.

Kathy <*))))><

PS to finish the model like the picture open up the tail section, lift
out the flap and fold it to one side, he doesn't diagram that part.





From: Martin Gibbs <mrg63@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:15:09 -0700 (
Subject: Re: Wrapping cubes: an epilogue

>However, the pattern for the seamless cube with the side of 1-sqrt(1/2)
is not
>as obvious. I'll leave that as a final puzzle for the fans of this type
of
>problem!
>
>Robert J. Lang
>rjlang@aol.com
>

I've got it by a process of reverse-engineering (well - sort of), which
could be considered cheating!

I first thought about how to make a side of ratio 1-sqrt(1/2).

Unfortunately, I haven't a Website, so I'm going to have to try to
describe it using words and ASCII art! Here goes.

  Fold both diagonals and both book folds.

  Fold an edge to the diagonal, and the other one to make the kite
  base (is that the right name for it?)

  Now fold the triangle over the raw edges and then undo.

  Repeat 4 times!

  Here's what it should look like (I won't draw the kite folds or the
  diagonals because it's hard with ASCII art).

  --------------------------------------------
  |                \    /                    |
  |                 \  /

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From: Martin Gibbs <mrg63@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:00:25 -0700 (
Subject:

Sorry!

 I accidentally sent my message while in the middle of drawing the
square. I'll try to continue. I'm leaving out superfluous lines.
 At the point where the triangles you folded over the top of your kite
meet the diagonals of the square, make horizontal and vertical creases
to the edge
  _______________________________________
  |\          |    \     /    |          /|
  |  \        |      \ /      |        /  |
  |    \      |      / \      |      /    |
  |      \    |    /     \    |    /      |
  |        \  |  /         \  |  /        |
  |__________\|/             \|/__________|
  |         /  \            / \           |
  |\      /      \        /     \        /|
  |  \  /          \   /          \    /  |
  |  / \             X             /  \   |
  |/     \         /   \         /      \ |
  |        \     /       \     /          |
  |          \ /           \ /            |
  |          / \           / \            |
  |        /     \       /     \          |
  |      /         \   /         \        |
  |    /             X             \      |
  |  /             /   \             \    |
  |/_____________/_______\_____________\|

Now you'll have 4 squares surrounding the centre of the paper and 1
square on each corner.  Use 3 of the centre squares, and the 3
corresponding corner squares, and tucking in lots of paper, you can get
a seamless cube.

My apologies for such an appalling explanation and diagram. If anyone
out there has a clue what I'm trying to say, and can explain it better,
feel free.

Martin Gibbs.

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From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:23:28 -0700
Subject: Origami Sighting - cartoon

This was in one of National Lampoon's collections of twisted cartoons.  The
cartoon is titled something like "Oregano" (as in the spice).  The picture
shows a chef proudly display a lumpy folded animal model, with clots of
cheese or ? dropping off the model here and there.  At the bottom it says,
"The ancient art of folding pizza."  It looked cuter than it sounds.

Origami:  "Stop Drop and Fold!"
Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:27:06 -0400
Subject: 1000 Cranes

The book with a photo and instructions for
making and stringing 1000 cranes is :

Steve & Megumi Biddle "Amazing Origami for Children" ISBN 0-09-177405-5

Valerie Vann





From: mSaliers <saliers@CONCENTRIC.NET>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:36:03 -0700
Subject: Re: Origami Sighting - cartoon

This was reprinted many years ago in the "Paper" back when
Origami USA was "FOCA".  I believe there was even a brief
interview with the artist, who said something about being
how he could have been called by the "Friends of the Oregano
Association".

> This was in one of National Lampoon's collections of twisted cartoons.  The
> cartoon is titled something like "Oregano" (as in the spice).  The picture
> shows a chef proudly display a lumpy folded animal model, with clots of
> cheese or ? dropping off the model here and there.  At the bottom it says,
> "The ancient art of folding pizza."  It looked cuter than it sounds.
>
> Origami:  "Stop Drop and Fold!"
> Steve Woodmansee
> stevew@empnet.com





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:39:22 -0400
Subject: Re: sending models via postel service

Julius asked for advice on mailing origami.

One really basic thing to know for 3-dimensional models
(or any other fragile object you might be mailing) is to
use a "box in a box." Carefully pack the models in a fairly
sturdy box. The packing material should prevent them from
bouncing around, but allow for some give if the box gets
partly crushed. Then pack that box into a larger sturdy box.
The smaller box should fit into the larger box with at least
one inch (3 cm) space on all sides. Fill the extra space with
some packing material. Now, if the outside box gets crushed
in shipping, the packing material and smaller box will still
protect the models.

For small models, you might try to scavenge small plastic
containers: boxes for computer tapes, computer disks,
small candies, store-bought frosting tubs, and margarine
tubs to name a few possibilities. I've also resorted to putting
models into zip-lock bags, partly seal the bag, then blow into
the bag to fill it with air and seal---voila! an air cushion for
your model.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@CONCENTRA.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:42:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Wrapping cubes: an epilogue

Robert Lang wrote:

   Old geezers who read British Origami Magazine ten years ago might recall that
   the square-wrapped-cube problem was addressed in the April '88 and August '88
   issues. The solutions presented there were, for the seamless cube, side =
   1-sqrt(1/2) = 0.292, and for the seamed cube, side = sqrt(2)/5 = 0.283. The
   seamed cube solution is easy: imagine a Greek cross of 5 small squares,
   oriented along the diagonal of the unit square. Those 5 squares are five
     faces
   of the cube, and the four corners meet at the top to form the sixth face.

   However, the pattern for the seamless cube with the side of 1-sqrt(1/2) is
     not
   as obvious. I'll leave that as a final puzzle for the fans of this type of
   problem!

Surely there is some mistake here.  The size of the maximum seamless
cube (0.292) cannot be larger than the maximum seamed cube (0.283).

        -- Jeannine Mosely





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:44:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami tricks and tools

Steve Woodmansee wrote:
>Each of these little clothespins is about 1/4" long

A quarter inch? Really? Are they pegs or do they have springs?

I just bought a supply of mini-clothespins (the kind with springs)
which I plan to bring to NYC with me for bartering purposes.
They are about 3/4 inch long. If you find me while I still have
some, I'll trade you for something!

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@CONCENTRA.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:48:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Wrapping cubes: an epilogue

A minute ago, I wrote:

   Robert Lang wrote:

      Old geezers who read British Origami Magazine ten years ago might recall
     that
      the square-wrapped-cube problem was addressed in the April '88 and August
     '88
      issues. The solutions presented there were, for the seamless cube, side =
      1-sqrt(1/2) = 0.292, and for the seamed cube, side = sqrt(2)/5 = 0.283.
     The
      seamed cube solution is easy: imagine a Greek cross of 5 small squares,
      oriented along the diagonal of the unit square. Those 5 squares are five
     faces
      of the cube, and the four corners meet at the top to form the sixth face.

      However, the pattern for the seamless cube with the side of 1-sqrt(1/2)
     is not
      as obvious. I'll leave that as a final puzzle for the fans of this type of
      problem!

   Surely there is some mistake here.  The size of the maximum seamless
   cube (0.292) cannot be larger than the maximum seamed cube (0.283).

I see the mistake.  The seamed cube isn't sqrt(2)/5, it's sqrt(2)/4 =
0.3535.

        -- Jeannine Mosely





From: Valerie Vann <valerie_vann@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:33:03 -0400
Subject: Re: sending models via postel service

Lisa wrote:

<< zip-lock bags, partly seal the bag, then blow into
<<the bag to fill it with air and seal---voila! an air cushion for
<<your model.

True, but it's better to just puff the bag out by pulling on
the sides before sealing  it:
breath has a fairly heavy moisture content, and if the package gets
cold (as it almost certainly will, if it gets on a plane), you
will get condensation inside the bag. If your climate is
humid, you may get that anyway. If you use margarine tubs,
poke some holes in the lid (same reason).

I've also used the big plastic jars that various bulk items come
in.

Valerie





From: Julius Kusserow <juku@STUDI.MATHEMATIK.HU-BERLIN.DE>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:25:28 +0200
Subject: sending models via postel service
Hi All,

I want to send some models via postal service. Is there anything I should
know?

Thanks in advance

        Julius





From: Dennis Walker <d_and_m_walker@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:38:44 -0400
Subject: Re: origami for quilters

Hello,

        This is a very vague posting!

        I remember seeing a Quilting book that actually used origami as a
technique for generating patterns. I almost bought it since I like origami
and my wife likes patchwork.

        I'm afraid that I can't remember the name of the book, but origami
was mentioned in the title.

        The basic idea was to fold a piece of origami paper into a two tone
pattern similar to the block patterns used for quilting and then replicate
that pattern in coloured fabric.
        It had a few diagrams for what would be called a decoration or a
coaster or a tato.  Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, tato designs
would probably work well as quilts.

                                Dennis Walker





From: Brenda Gryfe-Becker <gryfebecker.b@PG.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:23:00 -0400
Subject: Re[2]: Foil Thickness

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Often the less expensive generic, house brand, private label or whatever you
call it aluminum ("tin") foil is thinner. That is how they make it cheaper!

Brenda

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On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Aaron Tu wrote:
> I have never work foil or foil derivative papers because I have an
> impression that they are rather thick.

They aren't. Trust me, they really aren't. Many people think of a bulky
sandwich, but if you cover the foil only from one side with paper (as I do
most of the time) it is almost thinner than ordinary kami.

I usually don't mind paper that is a little thicker (I also do wet-folding
from watercolor paper and other thicker papers); but for people who are
fanatic about thinness, there are very thin kinds of washi that are still
very strong. Washi can be manufactured down to a thinness of 9cm/m, and
will still be strong. Normal aluminium foil is about 12-14m thick, but it
is also available 8m thick; you just have to find it. Tin foil can be
even thinner and is more malleable, but it is harder to find. And the real
fanatics can try gold foil which can be hammered until it is only a few
hundred molecules thick.

You see, there is still room for improvement. But since I choose my papers
mostly for their looks and not very much for their foldability, I don't
pursue these means.

Yours, Sebastian                                       skirsch@t-online.de
                        /or/ sebastian_kirsch@kl.maus.de (no mail > 16KB!)





From: Lisa Hodsdon <Lisa_Hodsdon@HMCO.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:49:05 -0400
Subject: Re: origami for quilters

>The basic idea was to fold a piece of origami paper into a two tone
>pattern similar to the block patterns used for quilting and then
>replicate that pattern in coloured fabric.

This sounds so familiar, but I'm sure I haven't seen the book.

If it's someone in the origami community, I hope someone else
can identify them. (I don't recall Fuse suggesting actually quilting
any of her designs using cloth. But then, I can't read her quilt
book.)

If it's not someone in the origami community, it might be Margit
Echols. She has done a lot of work in teaching geometry to
quilters as well as creating beautiful art quilts.

Might be worth trying her name in an Amazon.com search.

Lisa
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com





From: tommy <tomkat@DALLAS.NET>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:58:10 -0500
Subject: Re: sending models via postel service
Valerie Vann wrote:
>
> True, but it's better to just puff the bag out by pulling on
> the sides before sealing  it:
> breath has a fairly heavy moisture content, and if the package gets
> cold (as it almost certainly will, if it gets on a plane), you
> will get condensation inside the bag. If your climate is
> humid, you may get that anyway. If you use margarine tubs,
> poke some holes in the lid (same reason).
>

The silica gel desiccant packages (you know, the little packages that
say 'throw away, do not eat') that you can find in shoe boxes and
various other packaging would protect the models from moisture. I've
heard you can get silica gel at Wal-mart. People use silica gel to dry
flowers so you can probably get it at craft stores or a florist(?). Of
course if you bought bulk silica gel like this you would have to devise
your own little pouch for the granules. A square cut from a coffee
filter and folded into a waterbomb (seal the hole with a piece of tape)
might do the trick. If you did send a desiccant with your model it would
be important to tell the recipient!

This silica gel might also be good for home storage of models especially
in more humid climates. Has anyone tried this?

Tommy





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:03:56 +0200
Subject: Re: Working Clock?

At 10:48 AM 6/9/98 PDT, Aaron Tu wrote:

>That's a good one. A sun dial clock can be easily folded from paper.
>Probably done in an hour or less. Never thought of that.
>
>AT
>

Actually there's one already designed by a Japanese folder. I saw it in a
NOA magazine some time ago (I don't rememeber which one). And PERHAPS it's
included in one of the earlier Annual Collections, but I'm not sure.

Peter Budai





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:04:09 +0200
Subject: Re: Spread Squash (Was: Origami tricks and tools)

Hi spread-squashers and spread-sinkers,

Peter Budai here. First of all I'd like to excuse for sending a file to the
list. Since then I've been told this is not too kind. I didn't know that.

        S O R R Y
        O       R
        R       R
        R       O
        Y R R O S

And since unawares I sent that mail in two copies:

        S O R R Y   A G A I N
        O                   I
        R                   A
        R                   G
        Y                   A

        A                   Y
        G                   R
        A                   R
        I                   O
        N I A G A   Y R R O S

Next time I won't send attach, I promise.

Now to the real part:

Kim Best wrote:

>Have you noticed that many are calling "spread squashes", "spread sinks"
>lately?  There's a good reason for that.  Try this:  sink the area that will be
>flattened out first.  Then when you fold the long valley fold, the paper will
>flatten out nicely.

I think it's up to you if you decide on using this or that wording. Yes,
you're right when you say when spread-##### is related to sinks.
But you see, than we shouldn't use the term "squash fold", either, since a
squash fold can be made by opening up a reverse fold. Than should we call it
"open-reverse"? I don't think so.

Considering the action part of the fold, I prefer using the term
"spread-squash".

Also I have another reason. Perhaps the following sounds desipient:

Suppose that our paper is the sea and there's a little boat on the point we
want to sink (no, not a boat on a hill). Now what happends if we SINK this
unfortunate boat? It will get INTO the "sea" (paper), so it's a real "sink".
And what happens, if we "spread-SINK" that boat? It will still float happily
in our "sea". So it's not a "real sink" (rather the "sea" became calm and is
not so wavy anymore).

But again, everyone can have her/his opinion and own choice.

Peter Budai





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:04:13 +0200
Subject: Re: Spread Squash

At 08:43 AM 6/9/98 BST, you wrote:

>To squash a corner, say, it helps to put in the diagonal fold first (angle
>bisector) by folding the corner in half.  This gives guideline folds for
>the squash to follow.
>
>The best way to start the squash is to pull at the corners to put some 'air'
>between the layers of paper and then gradually push the centre down, while
>still encouraging the paper apart and follow the pre-creases made earlier.
>(That's the tricky bit, especially with foil paper).

I think for (tissue-) foil it is worth NOT precreasing, because the paper
will flatten anywhere but not at the pre-made crease. Otherwise I agree,
pre-creasing is useful for the technique you described.

Peter Budai





From: David Foulds <fe320473@CR10M.STAFFS.AC.UK>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:58:14 +0100
Subject: Dave's Origami website relaunch

Hey paperfolders,

I recently gave my website at GeoCities a facelift, adding a little
extra content at the same time, and would like to invite everyone
to have a look.  Please tell me what you think of the new style.

The address for Dave's Origami is:

    http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2162/

or you can follow my Bigfoot redirection URL:

    http://www.bigfoot.com/~dmfoulds

The Origami Photo Gallery also includes an example of Peter Budai's
Monoplane; the diagrams were included in British Origami 186.

My apologies for the quality of the book cover images - I may have
been too extreme with the jpeg compression value!  I will be
re-photographing the book covers anyway.

Diagrams, in gif format, for the Dog are available, but the file
sizes are quite large.  Sorry about that.  Please critique my
diagramming style, such as incorrect use of symbols, and keep
pestering me for new diagrams.

GeoCities have just increased the space available to 11 Mb so I'm
thinking of other possible uses.  One idea I've had is to fold, and
photograph, every model from every book I own, thus helping others
with purchase decisions.  This *will* be an on-going challenge,
especially at the rate I buy origami books!

One more thing.  A friend of mine has queried the legality, regarding
copyright, of reproducing book covers on my site.  I know this has
been discussed before, so I shall direct this question to Robert Lang
and Nick Robinson, two authors I know are definitely on the list.
What would be your publisher's response?

So stop by, peruse the site, and I look forward to the feedback.

Thank you.

Dave

--
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dmfoulds@bigfoot.com
fe320473@stmail.staffs.ac.uk
http://www.bigfoot.com/~dmfoulds





From: Richard Kennedy <r.a.kennedy@BHAM.AC.UK>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:47:37 +0100
Subject: Re: Good Origami Models for a Judge?

> > Hi folks.  I'm working for a wonderful judge this summer & I'd like to
> >  leave him with some beautiful origami when I leave.  I've been racking
> >  my brains for a good model -- scales of justice?  A gavel? e tc.
> >
> >  Just can't think of anything that seems to lend itself to origami.

> or a bust of George washington from legal-size paper,
> using Kenneway's techniques;

In the BOS's collection of Faces and Busts by Neal Elias (BOS booklet 36),
you can find the following:

1. Washington (a side view)
2. 'And a good judge too' (a face on view)

The diagrams are facsimiles from Elias's notebooks, some are easier to follow
and reproduce than others! (just a word of warning - I've not tried either of
these two.)

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@PB.NET>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:53:22 +0000
Subject: OUSA Convention - Monday
Priority: normal

On Monday at the OUSA convention, we are planning a panel discussion on how to
teach origami to large groups. If you have experience with this and would like
to participate or know of someone who would, please e-mail me.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Rachel Katz <mandrk@PB.NET>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 21:59:22 +0000
Subject: Sad news
Priority: normal

I was  saddened to hear the news of the death of Gloria's Farison. She
will be sorely missed. She was a creative, inventive folder and a wonderful
teacher. She attended each origami convention with enthusiasm and was
always wonderfully prepared. She was a joy to take class from or with.

For several years, I participated with her in FOLD. an amateur origami
publication, of which she was one of twenty members. Her contributions to this
magazine were always worthwhile and I treasure the copies I have.

I was preparing to contact her with hopes that she would participate in a panel
discussion at this year's convention. I didn't know she was ill and will miss
her greatly as I'm sure will many of you.

Rachel Katz
Origami - it's not just for squares!





From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@PIPELINE.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:06:25 -0400
Subject: Colour printer needed

Hi all,

I just got news on that there will be some digital photography going on at
the OrigamiUSA Convention. We would like to print out some of these photos
to show at the Conevntion. While we can print these out in black and white,
we would much rather print these out in colour. If anyone out there will be
at the OrigamiUSA Convention, and will be local enough to go back home (or
office) and has a colour printer, we can use you. Please e-mail me
privately (not to the list) at marckrsh@pipeline.com so arrangements can be
made. Thank you in advance. Marc





From: Rob Hudson <rhudson@NETRAX.NET>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:11:56 -0400
Subject: Re: origami in NYC

I'll add it to the map.  Remember guys, we're going to hustle!! :)

Rob

At 05:27 PM 6/10/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Jeannine Mosely wrote:
>
>> Daniel Scher wrote:
>>
>>    For those of you in NYC, there's a great opportunity to see some
'origami
>>    in motion.' At the Ricco Maresca gallery in Chelsea, there's an exhibit
>>    through the end of June of the work of Arthur Ganson
>
>> Consider making a side-trip to see it if you are attending the OUSA
>> convention at the end of the month.
>
>Sounds great!  Rob Hudson, any change of including this in Friday's
excursion?
>
>--
>Kim Best                            *******************************
>                                    *          Origamist:         *
>Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
>420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
>Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 06:15:00 -0500
Subject: Origami Songs

Hi All:

While I was waiting for people to join me during Tuesday's Chat (I
signed on early) I re-wrote the words to a child's song called
"Playmate" hope you know the melody...

Playmate, come on and play with me
And bring your paper too
Don't have to use no glue
Climb up my mountain fold
Slide down my valley fold
And we'll be orgaimi friends
Forever more.

He he he. If anyone is feeling gitty enough, go ahead and sing it during
the "Origami Cabaret" at the Convention. Or better yet....Lets re-write
the words to a popular song together. For the people that like to fold
modulars, Paul Simon's "Slip Sliding Away" comes to mind or what about
this....another popular song from Paul Simon, "50 Ways To Leave Your
Lover" the chorus goes like this....(sing it with me)

There must be...
50 Ways to Fold your Model
Get a good book and look
Go on the web, Deb
Joseph Wu would do
or Listen to Lang
Hop on the bus Gus
Go to a convention
and Take a great class, las
It's a gas

Too Funny....anyway I hope you think so. If you have any ideas I'd love
to hear them.

Kathy <*))))><





From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:06:13 +0200
Subject: Re: Where can I get "Eric Kenneways Folding Faces " ?

Pat,
At 14.24 9/6/1998 -0700, you wrote:
>It is out-of-print in English, but still available in Italian.
...........
>http://www.bookwire.com/index/Non-English-Booksellers.html

Or, more simply, contact me and I'll send you a copy ! ;-)
The original edition is no longer available since 1976, when the publisher
(Paddington Press) collapsed. So I decided to "rescue" the book and
translated it into Italian, after an arrangement with a local publisher.
The Italian edition is "Volti in Origami" (Il Castello, 1978; reprinted
several times). On the occasion, Eric added an extra face (Garibaldi).

Roberto

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From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:08:00 -0600
Subject: Re: Spread Squash

Andrew Daw wrote:

> What are you a masochist ?  I thought spread sinks were there to help you
> perform the ever difficult 'sink' itself.

You do a sink by first doing a spread squash, and you call me a masochist?

>  Would you do the eyes in Lang's
> Cicada (Origami Insects and their Kin) by sinking the points first ?
> I don't think so :(

I wish I could then the eyes would come out more even.  But as I said this
     method
doesn't work as well with multisided squash folds, especially when it's hard
     getting
your fingers inside the model.

> * Or do you have a really really easy way to perform an open sink ?

Well I actually, I don't do a COMPLETE sink.  I precrease the area that will be
flattened.  Then I start reversing the creases that would form the outside of
     the
sink (The area that will be flattened)  Then instead of forming the interior
     creases
of the sink,  I just open out the paper and let the fold fall into place.  I
     didn't
mention this in my original letter, because I wanted the reader to see the
     relation
between the spread squash and the sink.  Besides I figured  they could figure
     out for
themselves which parts to leave out.

The problem with the traditional method,  is that you have 3 or more creases
     forming
at once, and you have to coax them all to fall into place.  And, as Peter Budai
pointed out, if you are using foil, some of the creases most definately don't
     want to
form on your precreases.  Then I often have to open out the paper and reform
     many of
the creases anyway, and the whole fold looks ratty.  But it I do it like a sink
     I can
work on the creases one at a time, they come out right the first time, and model
flattens out neatly.

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:23:08 -0600
Subject: Re: Spread Squash (Was: Origami tricks and tools)

Peter Budai wrote:

> But you see, than we shouldn't use the term "squash fold", either, since a
> squash fold can be made by opening up a reverse fold. Than should we call it
> "open-reverse"? I don't think so.
>

Actually, I like that term. Let's......   No?  Okay....

> Considering the action part of the fold, I prefer using the term
> "spread-squash".
>
> But again, everyone can have her/his opinion and own choice.i

I think there is room for both terms. Even though they come out the same they
     are
folded (At least I fold them) different. Instead of restating, what I have
     outlined
earlier, let me propose this:

When you look at a diagram of a spread squash/sink, you see a long valley, and
     one
or more shorter mountain folds.  If it is best to work on the valley fold and
     let
the mountain folds form where they will, call it a "spread squash".  If it is
     best
to work on the mountain folds, and let the valley fold form where it will, call
     it a
"spread sink".

If this confuses you, ask my at OUSA, and I'll show you.
--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:27:41 -0600
Subject: Re: origami in NYC

Jeannine Mosely wrote:

> Daniel Scher wrote:
>
>    For those of you in NYC, there's a great opportunity to see some 'origami
>    in motion.' At the Ricco Maresca gallery in Chelsea, there's an exhibit
>    through the end of June of the work of Arthur Ganson

> Consider making a side-trip to see it if you are attending the OUSA
> convention at the end of the month.

Sounds great!  Rob Hudson, any change of including this in Friday's excursion?

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    *          Origamist:         *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Some one who thinks paper   *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * thin, means thick and bulky *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:34:30 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Wrapping cubes: an epilogue

> Surely there is some mistake here.  The size of the maximum
> seamless cube (0.292) cannot be larger than the maximum seamed cube
> (0.283).

Oops! Right -- the sqrt(2)/5 was another seamless cube. I miscopied the
dimension. Sorry for the confusion. The dimension for the seamless cube is
indeed (as Jeannine recalculated) sqrt(2)/4 = 0.35.

Robert





From: Rjlang@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:34:34 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Dave's Origami website relaunch

>>>>
A friend of mine has queried the legality, regarding
copyright, of reproducing book covers on my site.  I know this has
been discussed before, so I shall direct this question to Robert Lang
and Nick Robinson, two authors I know are definitely on the list.
What would be your publisher's response?
<<<<

You should get their permission. Most publishers are happy to have their wares
advertised and permit reproductions of covers in catalogs and so forth (I
don't know about personal web sites) but whether they generally give
permission or not, if you don't get it ahead of time you have a reasonable
probability of receiving a letter containing variously unpleasant legal
language.

Robert





From: Marcia Joy Miller <marciajmiller@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 05:22:07 -0700 (
Subject: Cleaning Origami Models

Hi everyone!

What are your favorite methods for cleaning origami models?  I am
partial to using a very soft artist's brush.

Marcia Joy Miller

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From: A.Welles@STUDENT.KUN.NL
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:05:37 +0200
Subject: Disney: legal copyright restrictions

Hi All,

I just finished a design I had been working on for quite sometime: "Pain"

I got my inspiration from the work of Jun Maekwawa's demons of "Viva!
Origami" and I am quite pleased with the result: the model is complete
with horns, eyes, wings, fingers and the arrow-shaped tail.

Now I was wondering: do you officially need to have Disney's approval in
case I want to send the model for publication in some magazine? I remember
meeting some people at the BOS York-convention September 1997 who were
having serious trouble publishing their designs of Star Trek-models
because the costs for copyrights were huge.

Anybody has (had) experience with issues like this?

Arjan Welles
The Netherlands
(A.Welles@Student.kun.nl)





From: David Foulds <fe320473@CR10M.STAFFS.AC.UK>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:19:51 +0100
Subject: Re: Dave's Origami website relaunch

On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 Rjlang@AOL.COM wrote:

> >>>>
> A friend of mine has queried the legality, regarding
> copyright, of reproducing book covers on my site.  I know this has
> been discussed before, so I shall direct this question to Robert Lang
> and Nick Robinson, two authors I know are definitely on the list.
> What would be your publisher's response?
> <<<<
>
> You should get their permission. Most publishers are happy to have their wares
> advertised and permit reproductions of covers in catalogs and so forth (I
> don't know about personal web sites) but whether they generally give
> permission or not, if you don't get it ahead of time you have a reasonable
> probability of receiving a letter containing variously unpleasant legal
> language.
>
> Robert
>

For the moment, I have removed all the book cover images, until
such time as I can obtain permission from the various publishers.

Dave

--
David M Foulds
dmfoulds@bigfoot.com
fe320473@stmail.staffs.ac.uk
http://www.bigfoot.com/~dmfoulds





From: A.Welles@STUDENT.KUN.NL
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:26:42 +0200
Subject: Disney: legal copyright restrictions

> Hi All,
>
> I just finished a design I had been working on for quite sometime: "Pain"
> from the Walt Disney motion animated picture "Hercules".
>
> I got my inspiration from the work of Jun Maekwawa's demons of "Viva!
> Origami" and I am quite pleased with the result: the model is complete
> with horns, eyes, wings, fingers and the arrow-shaped tail.
>
> Now I was wondering: do you officially need to have Disney's approval in
> case I want to send the model for publication in some magazine? I remember
> meeting some people at the BOS York-convention September 1997 who were
> having serious trouble publishing their designs of Star Trek-models
> because the costs for copyrights were huge.
>
> Anybody has (had) experience with issues like this?
>
> Arjan Welles
> The Netherlands
> (A.Welles@Student.kun.nl)





From: Lindsey Barnes <HoofTap@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:36:51 -0400 (
Subject: Angel Origami

I am looking on the web to find a model for an angel.  I am making it to put
on a grave (along w/ the thousand cranes).  I don't have any money to but a
book, so can some one send me a link, or, if you have a book with and angel
model in it, scan it and send it.  Preferably i want ones with the hands
together (so it can hold a tiny crane).  thanks!  ~*~*~*~Lindsey





From: A.Welles@STUDENT.KUN.NL
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:39:30 +0200
Subject: Re: Disney: legal copyright restrictions

I Said I designed 'Pain" but I was meaning "Panic" , the green one. I
always mix the two of them up...

Arjan Welles
The Netherlands
(A.Welles@Student.kun.nl)





From: Chris T Durham <gandalf_15@JUNO.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:06:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Origami Songs

Do you know the words to the original song? If so, I may be able to help.
I've re-written songs from various authors(even Marylin Manson[I am not a
fan of his, so you dont have to question my sanity.]) that turn out quite
funny. I would be interested in helping...

CTD

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From: Dennis Walker <d_and_m_walker@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:21:39 -0400
Subject: Origami sighting

Hi,
        I'm reading 'The Last Coin' by James Blaylock and a slightly
mysterious character has folded a piece of newspaper into a fish with spiny
fins.
        In correlation to the story, I suspect that it is meant to be a
blowfish.

        I've now read two books by James Blaylock and they both mention
origami, usually to give a slightly mysterious air to someone. Does anyone
out there know any more about Mr. Blaylock and a possible origami
connection?

                                Dennis walker





From: Basyrett@AOL.COM
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:25:09 -0400 (
Subject: origami to the rescue

I have sent this message to the list and it is always returned as
undeliverable.  If this message is seen on the list by someone , anyone, would
you please email me so i will know I'm still connected .
Thanks
basyrett@aol.com

Hello to all!
Although this message was sent earlier, I believe that it might not have been
posted.  So I'm trying again and my apologies to all if this a repeat.

        This past weekend, I was chaperoning my school district's team at the
NY
State Games for the Physically Challenged.  One of our athelete's, Jessica,
has
cerebal palsy .  At dinner the 1st night, Jessica asked for a straw or a cup
because she could not lift and hold her can of soda.  We asked everyone but
not a straw or a cup was in site.  Suddenly, a light came on,  I ripped the
cover off the Games Program and folded a traditional cup.
        Jessica used the cup until the can was light enough for her to hold.
She was
so excited that we were all laughing at her and the wonder of origami.   Next
thing I knew parents and students from our team were asking to learn how to
make a cup.
        There are many events at the Games but this was the first origami
event in
the Games history!!
        Long Live Origami!

Barbara  :-)





From: Peter Budai <peterbud@MAIL.DATATRANS.HU>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:09:02 +0200
Subject: Re: Robert Lang's Dino Skeletons

At 11:58 AM 6/9/98 PDT, Aaron Tu wrote:

>Anyone know where I can get diagrams of Robert Lang's T-Rex and
>Allusaurus skeletons? I saw pictures of them on Joseph Wu's homepage.

As Marc told you, the T-rex's diagrams are in the 1995 Annual Collection.
As for the Allosaurus... ask Robert.

>In Robert Lang's book, "Insects and Their Kins", he stated that any
>number of points at any length at any position can be designed or
>folded. I am interested in how. Are there books on origami design
>theories? I don't want to reinvent the wheel.

I read his article in the "Symmetry: Culture and Science" (quarterly of the
ISIS-Symmetry), Volume 5, Number 2 (1994), pages 115-152. In that article he
describes and illustrates both the "Circle method" and the "Tree method"
(the latter is supported with a case study of creating a/the stag beetle.
Good to read if you're interested in this subject!

Peter Budai
