




From: DMAWolf <DMAWolf@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 14:13:57 -0400 (
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI PAPER THAT GLOWS

Hi All,
  I used the glow in the dark paper to fold Yoda from the movie Star Wars, and
found that the plastic coating did make wet folding and a heavy telephone book
necessary. He glows quite well and it gives the model a texture and depth
other paper lacks as it is also textured slightly.
   I also have some bond paper I fold with that is heat sensitive so when
people touch the models they leave finger prints that disappear in a few
minutes.  Great fun with kids.  It comes in several colors and the color
change is to a differnt color (orange to yellow).  It is also expensive but
worth the fun.
   Next I plan to decorate paper with the nail polish that changes color when
exposed to sunlight.
   Any other fun color change products out there?
Diana Wolf
Phoenix, AZ





From: Rick Bissell <rick@TRIDELTA.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 16:04:51 -0400
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI PAPER THAT GLOWS
>Received: from sparcy.tridelta.com (root@sparcy.tridelta.com
 [192.160.168.222]) by tdi3.tridelta.com. (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA10420
 for <ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>; Thu, 7 May 1998 16:01:21 -0400

>   I also have some bond paper I fold with that is heat sensitive so when
>people touch the models they leave finger prints that disappear in a few
>minutes.

Please tell us more!   We were discussing this subject several months ago
and I don't believe anyone knew of a *paper* that was available with this
characteristic.





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 16:07:20 -0600
Subject: Re: flasher?

Ourldypeac wrote:

> I flasher is an origami model that when made of duo paper, flashes it's
> central color.  They are usually made with a spiral folding technique.

Well this depends on which model you talking about. If you talking about
the one by Cris Palmer and Jeremy Shaffer, the above definition applies

However if you talking about the one by David Brill.....

It's a non-explicit action model of a male exibitionist.
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From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 16:28:51 -0500
Subject: flasher?

Hi All

Okay, I have heard this term mentioned several times.

Please tell me...What is a flasher?       (besides what I know one to
be) he he he

P.S. Dont you hate dumb questions from new people?

Kathy <*))))><





From: "Dr. Stephen O'Hanlon" <fishgoth@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 16:29:47 +0100
Subject: Re: New Origami books in print!

> >         Origami Step-By-Step, by Robert Harbin!!!
> >                 (And only $3.95 for a 64page book, that HAS to be a
typo!
> No, this is for real.  Amazon has had this on their web site since the
> beginning of the year, to released in May.  I got a $5 gift certificate
from
> them in March, and I ordered it promptly (it took that GC, and $2.11 on
my
> credit card to cover the S&H).  I am still waiting for this book to come
in
> the mail.
>
> This is probably the book that got me started down the road of
> origami.  I checked it out of the library when I started (at least 10
years
> ago), and I was so impressed, I tried to find it.  It was out of print
then
> too.  I think that Patricia Crawford's Full-Rigged Ship (in this book) is
a
> REALLY impressive model for how simple (relatively) it is to fold.

> If you're looking for a book to start with after you've folded all the
models
> on the instruction sheet that came with that package of craft-store
origami
> paper, this is the one to get.  You can't beat the price either.

It's also the book that got me started, although it has had various titles
in the UK as it varies from edition to edition, as do the number of models
in the book. It is #8 (eight pounds sterling, about 11 dollars) atm over
here. For anyone who has folded a crane or two, and wants to learn more, it
is a very good book!

Dr S. G. O'Hanlon
www.geocities.com/athens/academy/4800





From: "Dr. Stephen O'Hanlon" <fishgoth@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 16:40:24 +0100
Subject: Talk on origami

Hi all, (esp the rec.arts.origami regulars)

Last night I gave an informal talk to the Cambridge University
Anglo-Japanese society about the history of paperfolding, and gave a
display of my work. I say informal, as we were gathered around a large
table, and an awful lot of beer was consumed by all present. Oddly enough,
only two folders turned up - myself (Irish/Italian/Scot) and a member of
the Trinity hall Origami society, who was english. The rest were of
oriental origin...I found it all rather unusual, for a caucasian to be
giving a discussion on what is essentially a Japanese art to those of
Japanese origin! Never the less, they all seemed to appreciate it, and as
well as giving away all the models I folded (mostly requests), I also got
asked to play for the society football (soccer for you US lot) team.

Also, they are arranging a Japanese Arts Exhibition here in Cambridge at
some time in June. I'll try to give dates later on, but there will be a
fair display of my work, you can bet!

Dr S.G. O'Hanlon
Find some of my models and diagrams on
www.geocities.com/athens/academy/4800





From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 16:51:27 -0500
Subject: Re: T.Rex Skeleton

How about denture-grip or Poly-grip.

Sorry Couldn't resist.

It really sounds like a Far-side cartoon.

After T-rex puts in his teeth, He goes out for a little snack.

B R E T T

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Andrew Daw [mailto:andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK]
                Sent:   Tuesday, May 05, 1998 12:45 PM
                To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
                Subject:        T.Rex Skeleton

                I have been working my way through Issei Yoshino's T.Rex
skeleton
                (down as far as the legs now), but I have been having
problems with
                the teeth falling out.





From: Richard Kennedy <r.a.kennedy@BHAM.AC.UK>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 17:26:26 +0100
Subject: Re: Mortarboard

Florence Temko taught a simple mortarboard at the recent BOS convention.
I was at this class, and if I can find my effort I should be able to
provide further information - ask if you are interested.

A more realistic (and difficult) one - complete with tassle appeared in a
recent issue of the NOA magazine.

Richard K
(R.A.Kennedy@bham.ac.uk)





From: Ourldypeac <Ourldypeac@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 17:40:19 -0400 (
Subject: Re: flasher?

I flasher is an origami model that when made of duo paper, flashes it's
central color.  They are usually made with a spiral folding technique.





From: LarryFinch <LarryFinch@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 21:06:11 -0400 (
Subject: Re: flasher?

In a message dated 98-05-07 17:38:21 EDT, kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM writes:

> Hi All
>
>  Okay, I have heard this term mentioned several times.
>
>  Please tell me...What is a flasher?       (besides what I know one to
>  be) he he he
>
>  P.S. Dont you hate dumb questions from new people?
>
>  Kathy <*))))><
>

Actually, David Brill in "Brilliant Origami" has a flasher of the kind that
you know one to be :-0

Larry





From: Aimee Miura <aimeem@OHANA.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 23:16:39 -1000
Subject: metal origami

On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Roy Hashimoto <roy@ENROUTE.COM> said:

> I was in Japan last month, and saw a television craft program on
> a simple way of creating silver jewelry.  They used a special silver
> putty-like substance, which when fired in a kiln, becomes solid
> and shiny.  You can mold this stuff, which they showed first, or
> you can dilute it with water into a slurry that you can apply with
> a brush.  They showed applying it to leaves and to origami tsuru.
> The firing apparently either oxidizes the organic material completely,
> or it just gets sealed within the metal.
>
> That's about all I know - don't know if it tarnishes, if it's toxic,
> etc., but it did look a lot easier than applying leaf.  If you have
> contacts in Japan, you might have them ask at a craft store.

Since no one else has commented on this yet, I guess I will.. This sounds
like precious metal clay, or PMC, which I believe comes in sterling
silver, fine silver and 24 karat gold. I first heard about it in Ornament
magazine, a couple of years ago.

If I remember correctly, PMC is precious metal suspended in an organic
binder which allows you to work it as you would any other kind of clay
(molds, wheel throwing, etc.). You fire it at a high temperature (900C for
the fine silver) and the binder burns off completely, leaving you with a
(slightly porous) piece of solid metal, approximately 50% smaller than
what you started with.

It is possible to use a slip of PMC as Roy mentioned, but it seems like
the result would be pretty fragile. What I would _really_ like to check
out is the potential of the partly fired "leather hard" stage, at which it
is possible to further manipulate the clay.. I keep thinking that it
should be possible to make a thin sheet of this stuff (roll it in a pasta
machine, like polymer clay), partially fire it, and then FOLD it! A lot
would depend on how sticky the intermediate stage is, I think.. The fine
silver runs about $35 an ounce the last time I checked, but the _primary_
stumbling block for me is access to a kiln for the firing, especially if I
have to fire it twice at different temperatures! (Although, if I _did_ get
my own kiln, maybe I could anneal my own lampwork glass beads. Hmm.)

Digging through my old e-mail on the subject, the phone number I have for
Rio Grande in Albuquerque, NM (the exclusive US distributor) is
1-800-545-6566. They have a picture on their PMC page of gold & silver
cranes - I don't know which method was used to produce them. Their web
address is http://www.riogrande.com/

The American Society of Silversmiths (http://www.silversmithing.com/) has
some info about working with this material at their web site, and
apparently Mitsubishi has info on the web about it as well (they developed
this material: I believe it's a spin-off from something or other..).

If anybody has tried using this stuff, I'd love to hear about it! - you
can e-mail me privately..

Aimee
---
Aimee Miura <aimeem@ohana.com>





From: Aimee Miura <aimeem@OHANA.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 23:39:29 -1000
Subject: Fold'ems and glow in the dark paper

>        Yatsumoto has a new packaging format called "Fold'ems" which
> appears to be working toward getting non paperfolders to try origami.  The
> packaging is glossier and more "slick" looking, and of the three types of
> paper offered in this line, two appear to have crease lines and markings
> already (yuck):  one for simple wild animals, one for cute little finger
> puppets.  But it's the third that grabbed me;
>
>         Glow in the dark origami paper!  Yes!  Just what I've always
> wanted!

A number of types of the "Fold'ems" are available, although some seem to
be more widely available than others (I got mine in the raffle at PCOC,
but I have since seen the "basic" ones on sale here in Hawai`i). In
addition to the three mentioned above, there are two sets with the
hologram "paper" (mylar?): "Silver Glitter" (5 sheets of assorted
patterns) and "Hologram" (1 sheet each of red, gold, green, blue and
purple - silver on the reverse).

The three often-mentioned online sources of origami supplies, Fascinating
Folds, Kim's Crane and OUSA's Origami Source, carry 7-sheet packs of what
appears to be the same glow in the dark paper (1 sheet each of blue, pink
and yellow, and 4 sheets of white).

For the list of models that _should_ glow in the dark: someone at the 1997
OUSA convention folded Alex Fehl's "Nuclear Crane" (three heads, three
tails; published in a BARF newsletter and the OUSA 1997 Annual Collection)
with it!

---
Aimee Miura <aimeem@ohana.com>





From: Aimee Miura <aimeem@OHANA.COM>
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 23:40:44 -1000
Subject: miscellaneous origami sightings

Hey folks,

These are all sort of minor or obscure, but I thought the first one was
worth de-lurking for..

For those of you with access to Japanese TV programming, on Sunday (5/3)
  night's episode of Abarenbo Shogun VIII (subtitled in English, KIKU channel
  20 here on Oahu) - episode #17 (sorry, I missed the episode title) -
  origami turned out to be a fair-sized part of the plot.

  Plot summary (spoilers): the Shogun (Yoshimune, the 8th Tokugawa Shogun)
    receives a folded paper crane stained with blood in the box of appeals to
    the Shogun. At the same time, there is a rash of fires in a particular
    section of town, and many children are orphaned as a result. One of the
    orphaned children, Osaki, is continually folding cranes. (Several of the
    characters are also shown playing with the waterbomb/balloon.) Eventually,
    the Shogun and his friends discover that the villains want to build a
    "red light district" of brothels and have been buying up the land in the
    area. Ofuji is the landlady of Iroha tenement and is folding cranes when
    the bad guys come to try to make her sell her property. When she is
    killed for refusing to sell, her blood splashes one of the cranes. The
    murderers set fire to the building to cover up their crime, but Ofuji's
    daughter Osaki discovers the scene and escapes. She puts the crane in the
    box of appeals with the help of the other orphaned children. By the end
    of the program, the bad guys are dead and Iroha tenement is to be rebuilt
    specifically for the orphaned children. The Shogun receives a flood of
    origami cranes in the appeals box as a thank you from the children.

  The episode will probably run again in a few months when they rerun the
    entire series - the TV station in Hawaii is on the Web at
    http://www.kikutv.com if you want to check on exactly when.

We have a TV commercial on locally - I think it's for Kuakini Hospital -
  and it shows a little girl using a "fortune teller." By the end of the
  commercial she's grown up and her daughter is using the fortune teller
  instead.

One day I caught part of an episode of Mr. Roger's Neighborhood with a
  woman guest who did some origami.. of course I can't find the piece of
  paper I wrote her name on..

In Sue Grafton's "I is for Innocent" (page 193 in my copy):
  The lines in his face suggested an origami paper folded once, then
  flattened out again."

Re: Man in the Iron Mask
  Gee, I thought some of them were paper boats, and I wanted to use the
  "pause" button so I could find out! :)

NOT origami: BTW, regarding "Monty Python & the Holy Grail" and robins,
  waaaaay back when, _I_ kept thinking of the song about "Brave Sir Robin"
  who "bravely ran away..."

---
Aimee Miura <aimeem@ohana.com>
Honolulu, Hawaii





From: tommy <tomkat@DALLAS.NET>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 03:19:44 -0500
Subject: cutting mat

i use a fiskars cutting mat for cutting origami paper. recently i took
it with me on a visit to my parents. the mat sat in back of the car and
apparently got too hot. now it is warped slightly. i broke at least two
of the manufacturer's use and care instructions printed clearly on the
label that is still stuck to the plain side. because i am not too crazy
about buying another mat i was wondering if anyone has an idea for
straightening the one i have. i want my mat to lie flat but now it won't
do that.

tommy





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 07:25:13 +0100
Subject: Re: flasher?

Ourldypeac <Ourldypeac@AOL.COM> sez

>I flasher is an origami model that when made of duo paper, flashes it's
>central color.

It's also what rude men do (and presumably women, though no-one has ever
picked on me!) - Dave Brill created an action model some years ago....

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: Andrew Daw <andrewd@REDAC.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 08:15:28 +0100 (
Subject: Re: T.Rex Skeleton
Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85]

> How about denture-grip or Poly-grip.
>
> Sorry Couldn't resist.

Hey what do you expect of a 65M year old (or is that 70 Million) ?

> It really sounds like a Far-side cartoon.

It sure looked like that.  I made the head first.  Great I thought,
picked it up and out fell the teeth.  I made another three after that
playing about with flaps and adjusting the folds, but to no avail.  Hence my
original email.

>

Thanks for all your replies, I no longer feel guilty using g**e on this one :)

RE: pro-R.Lang-publishing-his-Allosaurus-skeleton

    Can I join too ?
    No great hurry though, I still have plenty of models by R.Lang to catch
    up on first ;-)

Andrew
--
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( 0 0 )  ( - - )
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From: April Ammons <azureus@PROBE.NET>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 08:46:15 -0500
Subject: Re: cutting mat
At 03:19 AM 5/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
>i use a fiskars cutting mat for cutting origami paper. recently i took
>it with me on a visit to my parents. the mat sat in back of the car and
>apparently got too hot. now it is warped slightly.
[del]

>tommy

My only suggestion would be to gently reheat the mat in your oven on it's
*lowest* setting until the mat has become slightly soft and pliable.  Then
place it between two flat boards and weight the whole thing down heavily, or
clamp it, if you have lots of clamps, and let it sit for several days.
However,
if it looks like the mat might be shrinking as well as warping in response to
heat, I'd just try flattening it for several weeks.  Good luck.

April





From: "Askinazi, Brett" <brett@HAGERHINGE.COM>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 09:49:21 -0500
Subject: Re: japanese Paper Dolls

Please don't be sorry,

Thanks for the link . . . the dolls are truly beautiful.

B R E T T

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Luisa Urgias [mailto:luisa@SISSA.IT]
                Sent:   Friday, May 08, 1998 6:38 AM
                To:     ORIGAMI@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
                Subject:        japanese Paper Dolls

                Hi all.
                Sorry for this "not origami" mail!
                This is for people interested in paper art in general:
there is a
                web page showing beautiful japanese paper dolls made by
a 81 years old lady!

                http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~XF5N-ADC/obachan.html

                Visit it!

                        Luisa





From: "Sonia Wu (NC)" <swu@VIRTU.SAR.USF.EDU>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 13:18:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Giant T-Rex Display

I seem to recall seeing something about a life-size (and a quarter-size?)
origami T-Rex for hire as a display.  Does anyone have details on this
(and the cost and so forth).

Sonia Wu
(Florida)





From: Luisa Urgias <luisa@SISSA.IT>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 13:37:57 +0200
Subject: japanese Paper Dolls

Hi all.
Sorry for this "not origami" mail!
This is for people interested in paper art in general: there is a
web page showing beautiful japanese paper dolls made by a 81 years old lady!

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~XF5N-ADC/obachan.html

Visit it!

        Luisa





From: A.Welles@STUDENT.KUN.NL
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 15:03:06 +0200
Subject: Addresses wanted!

Hi all,

For my work for the O.S.N. Modelcommitte I'd like to get in touch with
some creators of Origami-models to ask their permission to publish some of
their models in the O.S.N. magazine.

Does anybody have the addresses of the following creators?

- Antonio DelagadoRivero (Spain)
- Vicente Solorzano Sagredo (Spain)
- Luca Vitagliano (Italy)
- Alexandr Bassaur (Russia)
- Herman Lau (?)
- Kran Hall (USA)
- David Pacheco (U Rivero (Spain)
- John Paulsen (USA)

If anybody knows these people (or maybe they read this themselves!) can
you please send me a private e-mail with their addresses?

Thanks

Arjan Welles
The Netherlands
(A.Welles@Student.kun.nl)





From: "Julian A." <hullianx13@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 17:23:25 -0700 (
Subject: Kawasaki Rose

Is the grid in the Kawasaki Rose necessary
Is there any way to make the rose accurately without using the grid and
cheating (like using another grid for reference while folding the
flower)

where do I find the magic rose cube?

any good origami book with models as good as this one?

______________________________________________________
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From: Jane Rosemarin <jfrmpls@SPACESTAR.NET>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 22:31:28 +0100
Subject: Re: Kawasaki Rose

>Is the grid in the Kawasaki Rose necessary
>Is there any way to make the rose accurately without using the grid and
>cheating (like using another grid for reference while folding the
>flower)

Dear Julius,

When I first read this question, I decided I'd leave it for someone else,
but I started thinking about it without meaning to, and I came to the
conclusion that you could make a grid and use it as a cartoon (as Raphael
did). You could tape the cartoon with masking tape (be careful) or clip
it to your good sheet of paper. Then you could prick the cartoon at end
points of folds or you could score through the cartoon onto the paper
underneath.

I think it would work, but I don't think I'll try it myself.

>where do I find the magic rose cube?
Sounds like Valerie Vann will diagram it within a few months. I'm sure
she will let us know when it's done.
Can hardly wait! People are teaching it at local origami meetings, but
you may not be near anyone who knows it. I'm not. You might check the
archive to see if anyone offered to teach it in your area.

>any good origami book with models as good as this one?
My favorite models come one or two to a book. A book I'm particularly
fond of right now is Fuse's Spirals.

Also, Tom Hull's Five Intersecting Tetrahedra is visually impressive, and
a nice challenge to assemble. Find it at:
<http://chasm.merrimack.edu/~thull/fit.html>.

Have fun folding!

-Jane





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@MTAYR.HEARTLAND.NET>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 23:07:38 -0500
Subject: Re: cutting mat

Depending on how how badly warped it is an how flat you are willing to live
     with, the answer according to the lady at the sewing machine store I got
     my mat from, you can set it out on either a flat board or very smooth
     pavement out in the sun for an hour

Perry

Paper, scissors, stone.....
Origami, Kirigami, bludgeon....
pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/
-----Original Message-----
Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 3:35 AM

>i use a fiskars cutting mat for cutting origami paper. recently i took
>it with me on a visit to my parents. the mat sat in back of the car and
>apparently got too hot. now it is warped slightly. i broke at least two
>of the manufacturer's use and care instructions printed clearly on the
>label that is still stuck to the plain side. because i am not too crazy
>about buying another mat i was wondering if anyone has an idea for
>straightening the one i have. i want my mat to lie flat but now it won't
>do that.
>
>tommy





From: Jim Cauble <jimc@SESSIONWARE.COM>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 23:14:34 -0700
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI PAPER THAT GLOWS

        >  I used the glow in the dark paper to fold Yoda from the movie
Star Wars, and
        Where can this model be found?  Is it at the same site as the

        Thanks, Mel.





From: DMAWolf <DMAWolf@AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 02:03:58 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Heat Sensitive paper

Hi All,
   The heat sensitive paper is 24 LB bond paper in several color change
combinations.  It is 8 1/2 X 11 and the color change lasts from a few seconds
to a few minutes.  It can be recharged if exposed to much heat (happens often
in Phoenix) by placing it in the refrigerator.  It is like mood rings (that
dates me).  I purchased it at a paper supply store that caters to small
printers.  The chain name is Kelly Papers.  They also have matching envelopes.
I am sorry to say I have transferred the paper to a storage container and do
not have any additional brand name but if there is interest I will check it
out further.  It is expensive about $1 a sheet and looks marbled.  It is
fairly heavy but I made some great dinosaurs and butterflies.  Ask you
friendly printer they may have it in their paper catalogs.
   If you have not seen the UV paint and inks, they are clear until taken
outside then they turn colors.  They are putting them on T shirts so the
picture looks like a coloring book picture then outside it fills in with
color.  They have the nail polish for sale so I used a red on green paper.
The polish is clear.  I used an old toothbrush and splattered it on the paper.
You could hardly see it so the students didn't notice it then when we hung the
butterflies in a tree they all developed spots.  I am trying to locate the ink
for Marbling tries.  Anyone ever heard of this ink?  I think it was marketed
from California.
    Diana Wolf
Home of The Friendship Butterfly Project
Make a butterfly and give it away it is the international symbol of
friendship!  Over 10,000 made and still counting.





From: Michael Guiliano <gfamily@EROLS.COM>
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 06:13:36 -0400
Subject: Computer software for generating diagrams

Hi Everyone!
I'm a newbie to this news group though origami's been my vice of mine
for some time now. Does anyone know of a software package (shareware if
it exists) that will enable me to generate folding diagrams?

Thanks in advance!
Mike Guiliano

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From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 09:27:59 +0100
Subject: Ishibashi contact?

Does anyone have a current address/phone or e-mail for Minako Ishibashi?
I'd like her permission to use a design for a forthcoming book. The
deadline is short (as ever!)

Please reply privately....

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: Steve Woodmansee <stevew@EMPNET.COM>
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 12:43:22 -0700
Subject: Kawasaki Rose, pre-creasing, etc.

Here's my $.02:  NO!

As repetitive and monotonous as the pre-folding is, it is critical later on
(IMHO).  I believe this is particularly true when you are first learning
the model, as the pre-folding helps the paper collapse during several key
steps right when it needs to and right *where* it needs to.

Having said all that, has anyone ever done it without all the pre-creasing?

On 05:23 PM 5/8/98 PDT, Julian A. wrote:
>Is the grid in the Kawasaki Rose necessary
>Is there any way to make the rose accurately without using the grid and
>cheating (like using another grid for reference while folding the
>flower)
>
>where do I find the magic rose cube?
>
>any good origami book with models as good as this one?
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>

Steve Woodmansee
stevew@empnet.com





From: JacAlArt <JacAlArt@AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 15:29:35 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Computer software for generating diagrams

For Macintosh -- Macromedia Freehand. For Windows -- who cares! Buy a Mac!

~Alec





From: Jeff Kerwood <jkerwood@USAOR.NET>
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 19:54:33 -0400
Subject: I Screwed Up - I Need Your Help! --> RESOLVED <--

In late March I posted an email saying that I'd lost a
fellow folders copy of Mythical Beings (Jay Ansill) and asking for help
finding a replacement copy. I am totally and happily surprised by the
number of replies (many private) I got offering all kinds of help and
advice. From offering to scan in the entire book and email it to me, to
send me a Xerox, to offering to check book stores in cities traveled to, to
checking with relatives. I got emails from about 15 people and I thank each
of you. It is really nice when people you don't even know offer to help
you, and when they go way out of their way - well, that is VERY special.
So, I HAVE found a copy and I THANK you all.

+ Jeff Kerwood
jkerwood@usaor.net





From: Nick Robinson <nick@CHEESYPEAS.DEMON.CO.UK>
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 20:24:10 +0100
Subject: Re: Computer software for generating diagrams

Michael Guiliano <gfamily@EROLS.COM> sez

>Does anyone know of a software package (shareware if
>it exists) that will enable me to generate folding diagrams?

I use GSP Designworks 3 (on a PC) - about 25UKP & does everything I
need. Check out the diagrams at my homepage if you want to see the
results...

all the best,

Nick Robinson

email           nick@cheesypeas.demon.co.uk
homepage        http://www.cheesypeas.demon.co.uk - all new look!
BOS homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk/bos/
RPM homepage    http://www.rpmrecords.co.uk - now with RealAudio clips!





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@MTAYR.HEARTLAND.NET>
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 22:48:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Computer software for generating diagrams

You might try using Macromedia freehand 8 for windows 95.  It is as easy to use
     as a raster program, plus it costs less than the Mac version, must be the
     fact that there are so many IBM windows users.

Perry

Paper, scissors, stone.....
Origami, Kirigami, bludgeon....
pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/
-----Original Message-----
Date: Saturday, May 09, 1998 2:31 PM

>For Macintosh -- Macromedia Freehand. For Windows -- who cares! Buy a Mac!
>
>~Alec





From: JacAlArt <JacAlArt@AOL.COM>
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 00:47:44 -0400 (
Subject: Re: Computer software for generating diagrams

In a message dated 5/9/98 8:50:58 PM, you wrote:

<<plus it costs less than the Mac version, must be the fact that there are so
many IBM windows users>>

okay okay. Let's not turn this list to a Mac vs IBM forum.





From: Brian Cox <briancox@MB.SYMPATICO.CA>
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 01:09:38 -0700
Subject: Re: Giant T-Rex Display

Jonathan Baxter    jbax@mindspring.com





From: Dino Andreozzi <dion@HEM.PASSAGEN.SE>
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 13:57:35 +0200
Subject: SV:      Computer software for generating diagrams

Hi Mike,
I use Corel Draw 5 for my diagrams and I think its a great program, its
easy to use but at the beginning youll need to practice a while. If you
want you can convert the CDR-file in GIF or JPEG for using on the Internet.
If you want to see some diagrams made with Corel Draw please visit my
homepage. The URL is:
http://hem.passagen.se/dion/index2.html

Regards

Dino Andreozzi





From: Gallo P & H <halgall@NETVERK.COM.AR>
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 18:54:32 -0300
Subject: Diagrams Mickey & Minnie

Hi to all,

I can not to put the diagrams in .gif, because they are 5.6 Kb, it's much
for my page.
Then, I realize all copies for the people that send me your address.
The diagrams copies are 28 page for each one ($2,90 ), and the cost for
send this copies is differente for each country ( $4 to $7 depend the
country). Then, is more expensive to send, because I'll send 40 copies.
Sorry, but all is more expensive for me.

For the people that no send your address, I do not kow if like an attached
them, and the people that was send me your address like to attached the
diagrams in email address, tell me please.

Thanks for your interest in my diagrams.

Patricia Gallo

http://www.netverk.com.ar/~halgall
La Plata-Argentina





From: "James B. Raasch" <jbraas01@STARBASE.SPD.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 19:22:03 -0400
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI PAPER THAT GLOWS

>         >  I used the glow in the dark paper to fold Yoda from the movie
> Star Wars, and
>         Where can this model be found?  Is it at the same site as the
> X-wing & tie fighter?  How difficult is it to fold?

What site might this be?  I am unfamiliar with this one, but I would love to
see the TIE-Fighter.

J.B. Raasch





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 00:42:35 -0400
Subject: Math/Haga/Kohji/Fushimi

To all the math and math-wanna-be readers...

In Kasahara and Takahama's Origami for the Connoisseur, there is a 2
page spread on dividing an edge into 'n'ths where n is 3, 5, 7, and 9.

Two questions:
        "Doing the math" is seems that the 7ths division as shown is
        only approximate (a^2+b^2 != c^2).  Did I mess up my math or is that
        really an approximation.

        Looking soley at the Haga 1/2->2/3 and the Kohji/Fushimi results, can
        one prove the general case that folding the lower right corner of a
        square to a point along the top edge which is 1/nth of the length of
        the top edge will always cause the bottom edge to intersect the left
        edge at 2/(n+1)ths of the length of the left edge (measured from the
        top?)  I plugged a bunch of numbers and empirical results seem
        promising, but my proof by induction skills are a bit weak.

Thanks!
        -D'gou

P.S.  The interesting thing, if my second conjecture is true, is that you can
divide an edge into 1/m by folding the lower right corner along the top edge
such that the bottom edge crosses the left edge at 2/(m+1) and 2/(m+1) might
be pretty easy to find, depending.





From: "Katherine J. Meyer" <kathy@SILENTWORLD.COM>
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:42:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Intro from Hillsboro

Hi Charles:

Welcome to the list. I think you'll enjoy the conversation.

Have to warn ya though.....it's addictive!

You may want to look back at some previous e-mails, to do that check the
Archives. There is a wealth of information there.

Nice to meet you.

Kathy <*))))><





From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:49:22 -0400
Subject: More on International Money Orders

Hey there!

A while back there was some discussion on the difficulty of
sending money orders from the USA to other countries -
international money orders (IMOs).

Well, I've just sent such IMOs to Japan for the second
time in my life.  And I think I've learned something.

There are TWO (2) different types of international money
orders available in the USA.  One works for all countries
and has to get sent to St. Louis to be converted before it
can be delivered - and this takes 2 weeks or so.  This
is very impractical.

The other type is not impractical at all, but it only
works for certain countries.  It is called the "MP 1"
money order in post-office lingo.  Originally it was
created as an easy way for money to be sent to Canada or
Mexico, but it now can also be sent to other countries,
like Japan!

The way it works is this: you go to the post office and
say that you want to send an international money order to
Japan, and you need the MP 1, otherwise known as the "pink one".
(It is pink.)  You then pay for it ** in cash ** (they don't
accept checks or credit cards for money orders) and they
print the amount on the MP 1 money order and hand it to you.
That money order is equivalent to cash, and you gotta
write the name of the person or organization you're sending
it to on it.  But you don't give it back to the post-office.
You just send it yourself to the recipient.  When they
get it they can convert it to their local currency (yen)
at any major post office for no charge.

You do get charged $3 US when you purchase the money order.
But at least the greedy banks are kept out of it.

I only know all this because I've been sending money to
Toshikazu KAWASAKI on behalf of OrigamiUSA - we're ordering
mucho copies of the Seian "Origami Science & Art" Proceedings,
which should be for sale at the convention in June.  (Yea!)

I hope this info proves useful to some of you.
And I have *no clue* whether this MP 1 money order works
for England, Europe, or other countries.  But with this
knowledge in hand you can ask more intelligent questions
to your local postal clerk!

--- Tom "it's only paper" Hull
    thull@merrimack.edu

PS Only big post office branches have the MP 1 form, I think.





From: "Dr. Stephen O'Hanlon" <fishgoth@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:59:57 +0100
Subject: Re: ORIGAMI PAPER THAT GLOWS

> >         >  I used the glow in the dark paper to fold Yoda from the
movie
> > Star Wars, and
> >         Where can this model be found?  Is it at the same site as the
> > X-wing & tie fighter?  How difficult is it to fold?

Ive got a version of Yoda on my site, although others are available. I can
also give you a starter for folding and X wing...use a frog base. The four
'legs' make nice wings, and the body can be narrowed for form a fusalage. A
(better) alternative is somewhere on Joseph Wu's site, which uses a water
bomb base, although I havent worked out how to fold this one (yet).

Dr S.G. O'Hanlon
www.geocities.com/athens/academey/4800





From: Thomas C Hull <tch@ABYSS.MERRIMACK.EDU>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:18:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Math/Haga/Kohji/Fushimi

Oooo!  Doug asks some more math questions:

>>>
        "Doing the math" is seems that the 7ths division as shown is
        only approximate (a^2+b^2 != c^2).  Did I mess up my math or is that
        really an approximation.
<<<

Right you are!  The actual length of the top right corner
to the folding point (down the right side) is 21/50 = .42,
as opposed to the length they give in the picture
3/7=.42857...

>>>
... can
        one prove the general case that folding the lower right corner of a
        square to a point along the top edge which is 1/nth of the length of
        the top edge will always cause the bottom edge to intersect the left
        edge at 2/(n+1)ths of the length of the left edge (measured from the
        top?)
<<<

Yes, again!

Unfortunately, Origami for the Connoisseur does not do a very
good job explaining Haga's Theorem.  They only show
a few cases with none of the details.  Haga's Theorem states that
if you select a point P along the top edge of a square and
fold the lower right corner to it, then the raw edges
and the original edges of the square make all sorts of
similar triangles.  No induction needed, Doug!  The nice
geometry of the triangles give you everything that you need.

For example, if the original square has side length 1, and the
point P mentioned above divides the top edge into lengths
x (the length to the right of P) and 1-x, then Haga shows that
then length of the segment from the top right corner
down to the right endpoint of the fold is (1-x^2)/2.  (This
is how you get 21/50 in the answer to Doug's first question.)
And the length of the top left corner down to the point
where the bottom edge intersects the left edge is 2x/(1+x).
So if you set x=1/n, you get that this length is 2/(n+1),
which answers your second question.

Again, similar triangles and the Pythagorean Theorem is all
you need to prove these things.  And you can also get nice
rational formulas for the lengths of other divisions!

My only reference for Haga's work on this is a series of
articles that he wrote for ORU (specifically, the
Spring 1996, No 12 issue, pp. 60-64).  These were in
Japanese, but the formulas and pictures are in the universal
language of math!  I'm sure Haga has written more about these
things - I know that he even has a book on this kind of
origami geometry out, but it's in Japanese and I
don't have a copy.

Sorry to go on, but I couldn't resist.

--- Tom "keeping the streets safe for geometry" Hull
    thull@merrimack.edu
    http://chasm.merrimack.edu/~thull





From: "Charles M. Heron" <cheron@ICHIPS.INTEL.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:16:31 -0700
Subject: Introduction From Hillsboro, Oregon

Hi, I've just joined the list and I thought I'd say hi!

It all started when I was young 5,6,7,8 or so, we did a lot of travel by
car and often went to museums, in which the museum stores would inevitably
sell origami supplies. And being of the 'I want' age, it was one of the
few things I could get my parents to buy for me on a regular basis.  Then
I would spend hours in the car folding away... I don't remember the name,
but I remember my origami bible at the time was a pocket-book sized
paperback with a good selection of folds.

Anyway, a couple decades later... I was recently in my old stomping
grounds of Santa Cruz, CA, where a good friend of mine had picked up a
Montroll book and was clearly under the influence; folding small animals,
bugs etc... That was all it took, it was like taking that first drag off
of a cigarette after being clean for many years, I grabbed a square, my
friend warning me of sinks and inside reverse folds, I gave him the 'hand'
and added an angel fish to his collection on top of his TV.

Several months later... My cube at work has stacks of brightly colored
post-it notes, the shelf is cluttered with a dozen or so modular balls and
polyhedra thanks to Vallerie Vann's gum-wrapper module, and variations of
Tomoko Fuse's Turtle module. There's a small crane twisted out of a
transparency.  A couple 'Happy good luck bats', a Kawasaki snail shell.
The beginnings of a business card menger sponge...

I've scoured our library system for origami books and so far my favorites
are 'Origami for the Connoisseur' (naturally), 'Unit Origami' by Tomoko
Fuse... I had to goto the next county through inter-library loan to get
Joyful Origami Boxes, which I also enjoyed thoroughly.

Currently, the two models I've been practicing repeatedly are Kawasaki's
rose and the Kawasaki cube variation that has inverted corners, both from
OFTC.

The best Origami supplier I've found near Hillsboro is Anzen book Co in
Beaverton, they have probably 50-75 (maybe more) different kinds of
origami paper and a pretty good selection of books all at pretty retail
prices... They also have a grocery store next door that has pretty good
Sushi-quality fish... They've also got a store near the convention center
in Portland...

-charles





From: A.Welles@STUDENT.KUN.NL
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 15:46:39 +0200
Subject: Re: Math/Haga/Kohji/Fushimi

Hey all,

A very interesting (but probably known in math) way of dividing an edge is
shown in the monkey by John Montroll in "Mythological Creatures...).

It turns out to be this method ican be used for all kinds of divisions,
but especcial very useful for devision in odd number.

Take a square ABCD and let A be the top corner and C the bottom. B is the
left corner and D the right.

Devide the diagonal in eights (which can very easily be done) now if point
E lies near corner C so that AE is 7/8 of AC and CE is 1/8 of diagonal AC.
Link point E and corner D with a crease so that that crease touches edge
BC at F. Now AF is 6/7 of BC and BF is 1/7 of BC.

Generally: if you want BF to be 1/n of edge BC, CE should be 1/(n+1) of
diagonal AC. It always works and is extremely useful for devision into
7ths or 3rds.

Arjan Welles
The Netherlands
(A.welles@Student.kun.nl)





From: Kim Best <kim.best@M.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:48:39 -0600
Subject: New Books

I was searching new book releases at Barnes & Nobles web site and came
across  "Planet Origami", by Steve Biddle, to be released in July.
Anyone have anymore information on this book?

Also, Harbins "Origami, a Step by Step Guide", is the one with the cool
Patricia Crawford models in it, isn't it?

--
Kim Best                            *******************************
                                    * I don't get impeachment.    *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System   * Don't low crimes beat       *
420 Chipeta Way #120                * high misdemeaners any day?  *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108         *******************************





From: Robby/Laura/Lisa <morassi@ZEN.IT>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:28:09 +0200
Subject: Re: More on International Money Orders

Tom,
At 11.49 11/5/1998 -0400, you wrote:
..........
>I hope this info proves useful to some of you.
>And I have *no clue* whether this MP 1 money order works
>for England, Europe, or other countries.  But with this
>knowledge in hand you can ask more intelligent questions
>to your local postal clerk!

The real problem here is to get "intelligent" answers from local postal
clerks.... >:-(
Thanks, Tom. It's one more piece of the Big Money-Order Puzzle. I could
check if this works if anybody were so kind to send me a $ 100 worth of
MP1's....

:D :D :D

Roberto

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51100 PISTOIA             |  message in reply... I KNOW
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From: Chr1sM <Chr1sM@AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:06:58 -0400 (
Subject: OftC

Hello, I'm sure this has been asked before, but I must ask again.
Are there any plans to re release OftC?  If there aren't we should convince
the publishers to re print it, because they would make boatloads of money if
they did so, seeing as so many ppls want it.

Chris Miller
chr1sm@aol.com
Formerly chris@ori.net but I changed it.





From: Perry Bailey <pbailey@MTAYR.HEARTLAND.NET>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:40:26 -0500
Subject: Re: New Books

>Also, Harbins "Origami, a Step by Step Guide", is the one with the cool
>Patricia Crawford models in it, isn't it?

Yes, but I was told the color plates have been withdrawn from the book, I don't
     know if it is true or not, but would go a long way to explaining the
     extraordinary low price.  Though I do have the original and if any one
     needed a picture from the books col

Perry

Paper, scissors, stone.....
Origami, Kirigami, bludgeon....
pbailey@mtayr.heartland.net
http://www.afgsoft.com/perry/





From: RGS467 <RGS467@AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:04:49 -0400 (
Subject: Origami Talk Test Chat Scheduled

Greetings, Fellow Folders:

There has been some expressed interest in starting a realtime origami chat
forum.   <A HREF="http://www.the-village.com/origami/index.html">Alex Barber
</A>  has been kind enough to set up an Origami Talk room on GeoCities' chat
network.  I have tried it out, and it works well -----provided you are using
a Java-based browser.  The registration process is quite easy and non-
invasive...(it took me 5 minutes to register, and I did not have to give any
personal information...simply had to enter a "user name" of (my choice) for
the chat network.)

It has been suggested that the forum should be scheduled at a specific time,
and that the chat be given a "topic" so that the conversation is more focused.

So, I would like to schedule a test chat for Thursday, May 14th at 10 pm(EST)
...that's 9(CST)  The topic of conversation will be New Origami Books and/or
Supportive Materials.  I encourage anyone who wishes to participate in this
scheduled chat to make sure that his/her browser is Java-based....  If in
doubt, you can simply try to access the chat network from this link:
<A HREF="http://www.the-village.com/origami/talk.html">Origami Talk</A> ...
and you should register well beforehand  to save last minute confusion and to
assure a spot in the discussion (the number of participants is limited by the
network).

If you discover that the browser you are currently using is not compatable to
Geocitie's network, you should be able to download a Java-based one for free.
( I DL'ed the latest version of <A HREF="http://home.netscape.com/download/">
Netscape Navigator</A> from this link  (make sure to select the appropriate
browser for your type of computer system and follow directions carefully).

I hope all who are interested in this forum will be able to successfully
access the  <A HREF="http://www.the-village.com/origami/talk.html">Origami
Talk</A>  network and join us on Thursday, May 14th at 10 pm(EST) ...that's
9(CST).

If you have problems accessing the chat forum, feel free to Email the
listserve (or me), and I will attempt to aid you on the process.

Again, an  <A HREF="http://www.the-village.com/origami/talk.html">Origami Talk
</A>  has been scheduled for Thursday, May 14th at 10 pm(EST)...that's 9(CST)
on New Origami Books and/or Supportive Materials.

The URL for Geocities' Origami Talk is: http://www.the-
village.com/origami/talk.html

If someone else has additional information that may be helpful to this
project, please let me know.  I am interested in making it work, and I will do
all I can to ensure its success.

Sincerely,
Russell----RGS467@ AOL.com

DARE TO FOLD!!!!





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:47:07 -0400
Subject: Re: OftC

Chris Miller indited:
+Are there any plans to re release OftC?  If there aren't we should convince
+the publishers to re print it, because they would make boatloads of money if
+they did so, seeing as so many ppls want it.

I'm sorry Chris, but I don't think a few dozen, or even a hundred, people
offering to buy that book would make it convincing to a publisher.  I actually
hope that Dover can pick it up and reprint it.  I don't know how they can
afford to do it, but it is their business to run and I'm just happy that they
have been able to make it work.

-D'gou





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:54:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Introduction From Hillsboro, Oregon

Charles M. Heron indited:

+Hi, I've just joined the list and I thought I'd say hi!

Hey Ho, welcome!

+friend warning me of sinks and inside reverse folds, I gave him the 'hand'
+and added an angel fish to his collection on top of his TV.

;-)  cute story.  I'm not sure what you mean by "I have him the 'hand'"
though...

+The beginnings of a business card menger sponge...

Danger Will Robinson, Menger sponge approaching, all spare time will be
absorbed, Danger...guggly gub...
;-)

+I've scoured our library system for origami books and so far my favorites
+are 'Origami for the Connoisseur' (naturally), 'Unit Origami' by Tomoko
+Fuse... I had to goto the next county through inter-library loan to get
+Joyful Origami Boxes, which I also enjoyed thoroughly.

Those are three good books.  I think Joyful Origami Boxes is the best box book
currently in print in English.

Don't know if you've already tried them, but Secrets of Origami (recently
reprinted by Dover), Best of Origami and Art of Origami are also available via
interlibrary loan.  Despite being "old" books, I have found a number of really
nice models in them.  Best of Origami has the best Turkey model (Fred Rohm)
I've been able to find.

Also available in the UK, and via interlibrary loan in the US, is Jackson's
"Classic Origami" and it is one of the best overall books around.  Norminton's
daffodil which I think rivals and slightly surpasses Kawasaki's rose as primo
flower model (in my rather not so humble opinion!)...

-D'gou





From: tommy <tomkat@DALLAS.NET>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:02:17 -0500
Subject: cutting mat -- successful flattening

thanks for the helpful suggestions. here is what i did...

i laid the mat out in the late afternoon sun on a flat board.  it was
fairly hot outside, between 85 and 90 degrees fahrenheit (30 to 32
celsius). i let it sit there for approximately 30 minutes. the mat
became warm and soft but not hot. it had begun to flatten somewhat.  i
then put another flat board on top of it and weighed the whole thing
down with bricks for around two hours. this worked perfectly. my mat is
now flat.

thanks again.
tommy





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:12:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Math/Haga/Kohji/Fushimi

Tom "Dr. Pimento to you buckaroo" Hull indites:

+Oooo!  Doug asks some more math questions:

Hey, applied math is cool!  Math tools be cool! ;-)  Theoretical math is cool,
at least in theory. ;-)

+Right you are!  The actual length of the top right corner
+to the folding point (down the right side) is 21/50 = .42,
+as opposed to the length they give in the picture
+3/7=.42857...

Aha!  Actually, looking closely at the picture in the book, the folded (dotted
line) corner does seem to be just a little bit off the spot marked at the
3/7th point.... Maybe that wasn't a misprint after all! ;-)

+Yes, again!

Whooo Ho!

+Unfortunately, Origami for the Connoisseur does not do a very
+good job explaining Haga's Theorem.

Fortunately though, with a re-reading or two, Tom does, and that without
diagrams or figures or pichures-n-fancy stuffs. ;-)

+similar triangles.  No induction needed, Doug!  The nice
+geometry of the triangles give you everything that you need.

Ah, but of course, how simple when you are on the right path...

+then length of the segment from the top right corner
+down to the right endpoint of the fold is (1-x^2)/2.  (This
+is how you get 21/50 in the answer to Doug's first question.)

Cool.  Actually that is a neater distance to look for since it doesn't require
putting a fold through the paper to get an accurante location point.  I've
tried using the intersection "point" you describe next, and it is hard to
locate that accurately without putting a crease in through the paper.

+And the length of the top left corner down to the point
+where the bottom edge intersects the left edge is 2x/(1+x).
+So if you set x=1/n, you get that this length is 2/(n+1),
+which answers your second question.

Whee!  Of course then you can locate the place you want the intersection to be
in order to "reverse determine" the spot that the lower right corner will hit
the top edge.  (finding the 1/3 mark "backwards" so to speak by making the
eges intersect half way down the left side (2/4ths)).

+Again, similar triangles and the Pythagorean Theorem is all
+you need to prove these things.  And you can also get nice
+rational formulas for the lengths of other divisions!

Whee!!!  Thanks for the help Tom (no, I'm not discouraging further replies,
just happy to frolick with what I've gotten so far)

+Sorry to go on, but I couldn't resist.

Well, I appreciate it at least! ;-)  Thanks for the ORU reference.  I usually
didn't bother looking at the text, just the purty pitchers and diagrams. ;-)

+--- Tom "keeping the streets safe for geometry" Hull

Daddy-o 'Speeding down the Royal Road in my Jello Roadster" D'gou





From: Vulcano <vulcano@BR.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:16:02 -0300
Subject: OftC

Hi,

Sasuga Japanese Bookstore is offering this book on its online catalogue. The
price is $ 18.00. The new home-page address is www.sasugabooks.com. They can
look for books in Japan if they don't have them in stock. I use to buy a lot
from them and I never had any problem.

I live in Brazil and here Origami Books are very hard to be found.

Lilian Sant'Anna
vulcano@br.homeshopping.com.br

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>Hello, I'm sure this has been asked before, but I must ask again.
>Are there any plans to re release OftC?  If there aren't we should convince
>the publishers to re print it, because they would make boatloads of money if
>they did so, seeing as so many ppls want it.
>
>Chris Miller
>chr1sm@aol.com
>Formerly chris@ori.net but I changed it.





From: Doug Philips <dwp@TRANSARC.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:16:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Math/Haga/Kohji/Fushimi

Arjan Welles indited:

+Generally: if you want BF to be 1/n of edge BC, CE should be 1/(n+1) of
+diagonal AC. It always works and is extremely useful for devision into
+7ths or 3rds.

I recall there was some mention of this (though I had forgotten it until you
mentioned it again) a while-ish ago on the list.  I think there was a minor
brouhaha about some kids who had rediscovered it, and some corollary and a
math teacher who sent them into the lime light.  I think they used some
graphic geometric analysis program, but I can't think of the right phrase
to use to search the archive for.

Anywho, thanks Arjan!  I like that method, except that it puts extra creases
into the square.

-D'gou





From: DORIGAMI <DORIGAMI@AOL.COM>
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:55:32 -0400 (
Subject: CO-OP  Meeting at Mon.Cty.Lib.

If you are in the area of Monmouth County, our Origami CO-OP meeting is the
second Wed. nite (13th of May) of the month at the Monmouth County Library,
Symmes Rd, Manalapan, N. J.  off of Rte 9.  The meeting is from 7 to 9
o'clock.  Please join us.  Dorigami





From: Helena Verrill <helena@MAST.QUEENSU.CA>
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 03:40:02 -0400
Subject: Origami in Bonn?

Hi! Can someone tell me
Is there a good place to buy origami paper in Bonn, Germany?
Are there folders here?
Thanks!
Helena
